1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, senior political correspondence with US Hallo, Barry, Good afternoon, Hill. 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 2: So what did we get out of court with the 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Maori Party? 4 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 3: Well, nothing as yet, but Kappa KINGI seems to think 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 3: there'll be some sort of decision. I mean, she is 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: appealing against her expulsion from the party, and she's seeking 7 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 3: an injunction against the party, and in her firing line 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: is very much John tammaheady. And you know, she emerged 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 3: from the court, she seemed quite happy with the way 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: it was conducted, but she did leave no one in 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 3: any doubt that party president John Tammaherry is firmly in 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: her sight. 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: It requires a certain way of being, you know, and practice, 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 4: and from my experience and my point of view and 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: my observations, those things aren't evident. And so I think 16 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 4: we're ready for a new leadership actually at that executive 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: and council level. And it's my it's my party. And 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 4: I'll cry if I'm neither confident or not confident. But 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 4: I'm glad to have had one day in court, I 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 4: guess you might say. 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: And it's interesting that she doesn't even though she lives 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: in the same Oh sorry shares the same office as 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 3: Takuta Feras. She's not sure whether he's joining in any 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: court action. He in the past has said no, I 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: don't want it. But look, there is an AGM coming 26 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 3: up very shortly and I guess all cards will be 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: on the table. 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: Then. 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: See the Prime Minister turned up in Ikea today. 30 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: Isn't that wonderful? 31 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 4: You know? 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: I think it's great. And a lot of the media 33 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 3: turned up, and you know this is. 34 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: A lot of the media. Didn't the entire media turn 35 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Oh maybe they. 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: Did, Yeah, And I think, look, it's it's a great 37 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: day for New Zealand when a big international company decides 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 3: to open up here, and I think we should be 39 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: celebrating that rather than many have been criticizing it. And 40 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: I can't quite understand because we are looking for good 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: things in this country and this is one good thing, 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: just like Costco was well. So you know, apparently shoppers 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: were gathered outside at four forty five as early as 44 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 3: four forty five am this morning. It opened at eleven 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: o'clock and there wasn't the goodlock of traffic. Apparently people 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: that were still car parks when people arrived at the 47 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: opening time of eleven o'clock. But look, the Prime min 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: is to cut an appropriately blue ribbon to declare the 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: megastore open. And for all the detractors, he had this 50 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: to say. 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 5: He got a large multinational that's may have chosen to 52 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: make its first investment in New Zealand. It's taken some 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 5: time to get to this point. It creates local employment opportunities. 54 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 5: There's five hundred and forty staff here already. Most of 55 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 5: them have never worked for a care before, they've been trained. 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 5: And importantly, you've also had a whole bunch of economic 57 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 5: activity with contractors and people that are supporting the retailer here. 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 5: So you know, it's a good news story. It's a 59 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 5: classic case of where investment creates opportunity in jobs as 60 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: well as more competition. That's just a good thing for 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: New Zealand. 62 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 3: Were you yawning? 63 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Then what did he buy? He bought something and he 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't tell anybody what he bought. 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Well, apparently what he bought was and I thought it 66 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: was rather unusual for a teetotaler. Rather surprisingly, he bought 67 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: a set of wine glasses for entertaining others. Of course, 68 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: i'd imagine a watering can to presumably called down or 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: called down the over and bibers that use the wine 70 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 3: glasses and a blue Now I've never heard of one 71 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: Franca bag and that's it's blue of course, and I 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: assume that's got something to do with designer. 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: What he did, he just went around and was like 74 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: he was. He was just like what can I buy? 75 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: What's quick? 76 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: That? 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 2: That gone? That's what he did. 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Eh, yeah, and good on them for being out there. 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 3: This is a success story. 80 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: Now have the questions have been asked about Sonny Koschel? 81 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: Yes, and I know you've asked questions before about what 82 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: what Sonny is being paid? Well, yeah, just as ministries before. 83 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 2: The Scrutiny Week. 84 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: Scrutiny Week had Parliament to the head of it. He's 85 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: defending Sunny Koschal's workers, chairman of that ministerial group. Including 86 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: the two hundred and twenty seven dollars and eighty five, 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: five hundred and eighty five dollars in pay and three 88 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: two hundred dollars for a morning tea event in Auckland. 89 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: Surely not just for himself. 90 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: Well, no, so. 91 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: I think Barry's dying engine. 92 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: No, Sonny might be, well, he's not that large. I 93 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: don't think he could manage that, but look, it's really 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: interesting labor MPs. They revealed that Koshal had built so 95 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: many hours between February and July that he almost certainly 96 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: worked weekends in public holidays. Well, the head of the ministry, 97 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 3: kibble White, Andrew Kibblewhite, he says that, look, he's a 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: very hard worker and he may well have done that, 99 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 3: but he also earned you know, he's earned a lot 100 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: of money on top of but he's kershel himself, is 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 3: it back saying that labor is playing politics, And then 102 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 3: he did exactly the same thing himself. He said basically 103 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: that this is a declaration or a distraction from the 104 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 3: real problem, and that's retail crime that's doubled since nineteen 105 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen under the Labor watch. So he was playing 106 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: the same game as he couzing. Thank you very much, 107 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: making a lot of money out of it. 108 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Erry very so for senior political correspondent. 109 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 3: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 110 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 3: news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio.