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Speaker 1: The issues is the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickens

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Speaker 1: on early edition with one roof make your property search

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Speaker 1: simple used talks, it'd be.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning to you. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: choosing us. We're here till six. Coming up over the

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Speaker 2: next hour, Shane Jones hits out at Woke Banks. That's

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Speaker 2: today's headline. Richard Jones from Flap Farmers on this topic

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Speaker 2: in five minutes later on how can we stop this

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Speaker 2: epidemic of fires in orcan rubbish drucks? Who knew? And

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Speaker 2: just before six, how are we going with changing all

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Speaker 2: the speed signs on our state highways? How much is

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Speaker 2: this going to or cost? Will it make a difference?

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Speaker 2: We've got an expert for you. Just before six. We'll

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Speaker 2: have correspondence from around New Zealand and around the world.

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Speaker 2: You can have your say by sending me a text.

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Speaker 2: The number is ninety two to ninety two. A small

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Speaker 2: Newstalk stb dot co dot nz. It is seven a

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Speaker 2: half to five.

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday. It is the thirtieth of January and

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Speaker 2: at least thirty people have died in a crowd crush

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Speaker 2: at India's Kumila religious festival. Millions were expected to take

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Speaker 2: a dip in the river.

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Speaker 3: We have seen little children being brought who have been

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Speaker 3: separated from their parents. The elderly women who are crying

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Speaker 3: We've gotten separated from their family. Some of them are

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Speaker 3: talking about seeing people fall and getting severely injured. It's

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Speaker 3: absolutely chaotic scenes in the Last and Found Center.

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Speaker 2: This, by the way, is the world's largest religious celebration.

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Speaker 2: They're expecting one hundred million people to flock to this

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: An Australian man who was feared dead while fighting for

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Speaker 2: Ukraine is in its war with Russia. Apparently he's alive,

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Speaker 2: according to Russian authorities. Thirty two year old teacher Oscar

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Speaker 2: Jenkins was captured last year in Ukraine. Australia's Foreign minister

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Speaker 2: says the government has received confirmation that Oscar is alive

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Speaker 2: and he is currently in Russian custody. To the United

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Speaker 2: Kingdom and the government there has backed the construction of

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Speaker 2: a third runway at Heathrow Airport. This is all part

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Speaker 2: of its economic growth plan.

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Speaker 5: I have always been clear that the third runway at

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Speaker 5: Heathrow would unlock further growth, boost investments, increase exports and

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Speaker 5: make the UK more open and more connected.

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Speaker 2: So that's the chance of Rachel Reeves. She says she

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Speaker 2: wants proposals for the expansion by the middle of the year.

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Speaker 2: She says the expansion alone could create one hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: jobs and back to the US and a federal judge

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Speaker 2: in the States has blocked President Donald Trump's freeze on

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Speaker 2: federal grants and loans, and the spending, which is approved

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Speaker 2: by Congress goes to both public and private organizations and

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Speaker 2: states and schools. Individual funding isn't impacted by the paws,

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Speaker 2: and the White House says it's needed to ensure spending

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Speaker 2: is in line with Donald Trump's agenda. It is nine

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Speaker 2: after five the first.

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Speaker 1: Word on the Use of the Day in early edition

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Speaker 1: with Andrew Dickins and One Room to Make Your Property

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Speaker 1: Search and Simple.

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Speaker 2: You talk sipy okay, They say Christopher Luxin is struggling,

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Speaker 2: but frankly, Chris Hipkins is also struggling. Today in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five, the leader of the opposition has fallen for

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Speaker 2: the trap of just being against stuff. Instead of for stuff.

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Speaker 2: So the fundamental problem with our economy is that the

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Speaker 2: government doesn't make enough money to pay our bills. That's

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Speaker 2: why we run deficits. We've been running deficits for far

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Speaker 2: too long, far too often. Now the answer to that

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Speaker 2: is either to tax you more, or for New Zealand

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Speaker 2: government has more money. So the other day Chris Hipkins

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Speaker 2: is railing against the government's handling of the economy without

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Speaker 2: saying how his mob could do any better. You know what,

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Speaker 2: that's not actually good enough, especially since there's only been

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Speaker 2: a year since we last saw you running things rather badly.

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Speaker 2: What would you actually do anyway? This is what he said.

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Speaker 2: He said the National Act government wants to entrench two

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Speaker 2: standards of citizenship, one standard for those who have wealth

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Speaker 2: and all lower standard for those that don't. Now that

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Speaker 2: he just hacked off a whole bunch of folks. It

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Speaker 2: because is he blithely unaware or deliberately ignorant of the

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Speaker 2: two tiers of citizenship? Labor promoted in treating principles. It

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Speaker 2: was Maori and non Maori. And when he was Health Minister,

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Speaker 2: it was vaxed and unvaxed. You know, when people say

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else. I watched John Minto

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Speaker 2: Now what does that sound like to you? You know,

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Speaker 2: if it walks like a pogram and it talks like

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Speaker 2: seem to enjoy it. And it amazes me how people

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Speaker 2: who fight against oppression so easily adopt the tactics of oppressors.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure mister Minto and his supporters believe they

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Speaker 2: thing that freaks me out is that John Minto looks

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Speaker 2: pretty much the same as when we first saw him

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Speaker 2: on TV barking at people through a megathone. Has he

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Speaker 2: signed some deal with the devil? Is there a portrait

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Speaker 2: of him rotting in a basement in Gray? Then? I

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Speaker 2: find it all rather unnerving. It's twelve after five. Shane

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Speaker 2: Jones has hit out at the white banks that do

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Speaker 2: not fund people that fund fossil fuels. So what is

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your property search simple

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Speaker 1: if you talk said be So.

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Speaker 2: It's fourteen after five and Shane Jones has gone off

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Speaker 2: at the banks. It has understood that New Zealand First

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Speaker 2: could be looking at a member's bill that could force

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Speaker 2: the big banks to lend to any businesses that deal

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Speaker 2: in fossil fuel. Shane Jones says the Australian banks, who

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Speaker 2: dominate the New Zealerd market need to stop being an

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Speaker 2: I quote driven by unelected, unorientated climate apostles. Australia's opposition

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Speaker 2: party is looking at a similar bill to ensure critical

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Speaker 2: businesses like farming and mining are able to access bank

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Speaker 2: lending and services despite how the banks view their businesses.

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Speaker 2: So Richard McIntyre as the banking spokesperson for Federated Farmers

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Speaker 2: morning Andrew. Do you agree with mister Jones.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think this is a really interesting discussion we

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Speaker 6: you know, we are quite comfortable for businesses to decide

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Speaker 6: when we have have a sector that plays such a

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Speaker 6: very similar manners, then you know, we've really got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's there money, and they're the banks, and

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Speaker 2: there's their choice, and that's their freedom of choice. But

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Speaker 2: I understand what you say. Have you heard of farmers

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Speaker 2: here having issues accessing lending and other banking services? Because

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Speaker 6: So we've got farmers who are being asked for all

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Speaker 6: their emissions profiles and that sort of thing. We've got

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Speaker 6: for the AC sector, and so that's the real concern.

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Speaker 6: You know what happens after that. We've seen what is

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Speaker 6: told that they have to pay back all of the

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Speaker 6: completely unreasonable.

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Speaker 2: So what changes would you like to see a new legislation?

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Speaker 6: I guess if new legislation camp forwards, I would like

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Speaker 6: to see in all reality, either far far greater competition

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Speaker 6: really need to have a really good discussion. And so

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Speaker 6: are we a democratic, critically elected Are we a democracy?

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Speaker 6: Do we have a democratical really to government that decides

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Speaker 6: to leave it up to these big corporates, you know,

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Speaker 2: Richard, I thank you for your time today. Richard McIntyre

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Speaker 2: is from Federative Farmers. They're banking spokesperson. Now, who knew

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Speaker 2: we had rubbish trucks blowing up all over our biggest

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Speaker 2: You're just a bloke and you running around trying to

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Speaker 2: So what's happening and how can we stop it? We're

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Speaker 2: months time. It is eighteen after five.

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Speaker 1: News and Views You Trust to start your day is

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Speaker 2: You talk with me right It is now five twenty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: rubbish tracks are blowing up. Well, blowing up might be

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Speaker 2: an exaggeration, but there have been loads of fires and

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Speaker 2: On top of that at Ukhan's recycling facility that has

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Speaker 2: one or two small fires every single week. So Auckland

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Speaker 2: Council Deputy Director of Resilience and Infrastructure Paru Sued joins

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Speaker 2: me right.

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Speaker 7: Now, hello, Pero, good morning Andrew.

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Speaker 2: What's blowing up?

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Speaker 7: Oh my god? It's all the wrong items that people

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Speaker 7: are putting into those trucks and they are predominantly lithemine

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Speaker 7: batteries that we've got so many of them in our

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Speaker 4: Are blowing up.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so it give us a list. What's blown up?

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Speaker 2: What's the stuff we shouldn't be putting in the in

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Speaker 2: the rubbish truck.

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Speaker 7: So one thing to clearly remember is what you should

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Speaker 7: be putting into your recycling bins. It is meant for

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Speaker 7: packaging only that comes out of your kitchen, laundry and

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Speaker 7: and actually nothing else. What people are doing or I

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Speaker 7: are thinking, is wish cycling. They're actually putting in things

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Speaker 7: like batteries. They're also putting in canisters that might have

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Speaker 2: I'm Andrew Dickens. Thank you for joining me. It beggars

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Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens on early edition with one roof make your

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Speaker 2: Yes, good morning to you, Welcome to your Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for choosing our program. We were talking earlier

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Speaker 2: to Dunedin first. Callum Proctor. Good morning to you, morning Andrew.

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Speaker 2: I've just been banging on about training more doctors. It

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Speaker 8: Yes, they are very much so. And this would help,

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Speaker 8: And how's your weather today, Callum drizzle clears this afternoon

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Speaker 8: and nineteen Emily Ansel from Christyage, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: So we get these speed limit reversals. That's happening in

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Speaker 2: How's your weather fine.

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Speaker 9: Apart from areas of morning and evening cloud northeasterlys developing

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Speaker 2: to Max Toll from Wellington. Hello, Max, good morning. So

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Speaker 2: your council there now has a Crown observer because of

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that's right. His first report has been made public.

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Speaker 10: One could argue that since his appointment, city Council meetings

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Speaker 10: council officers. That's one complaint from some councilors. Unfortunately, you

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Speaker 10: have to say a lot of these things aren't going

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Speaker 10: to get better as a councilor's try to get re

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Speaker 10: elected later this year and some start fancying a crack

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Speaker 10: at dethroning Tory Faro at the head of the table.

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Speaker 2: You know you can psych this dial all those observations

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Speaker 2: and said that probably to every single council in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: How's your weather?

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Speaker 10: Occasional rain Southerley's twenty the high central and.

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Speaker 2: Never ret A man who now joins me in Orklandallo

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Speaker 2: neither hello, greetings.

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Speaker 11: I thought you're going to say hello, rever.

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Speaker 2: You look like you're going to put an R in there.

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Speaker 2: Would you like me to no? Okay. So there's problems

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Speaker 2: at the hospital.

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Speaker 11: Yes, water woes. Water woes where Auckland City Hospital. So

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Speaker 11: a water leak means that the hospital's main building. This

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Speaker 11: does include the maternity water is without hot water so overnight.

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Speaker 11: We do know that the water system and part of

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Speaker 11: the hospital that was turned off completely. The good news

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Speaker 11: it's expected to be back on this morning. Hot water,

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Speaker 11: though it's going to take a little while longer. But

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Speaker 11: we do know also that the toilets, the dialysis machines,

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Speaker 11: in fire sprinklers, they're all unaffected their goodness, because they

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Speaker 11: run on a different water system.

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Speaker 7: Great.

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Speaker 2: How's the weather.

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Speaker 11: Cloudy, isolated childs developing late morning, clearing tonight still hot

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Speaker 11: hot hot twenty five is are high.

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Speaker 2: Never Rettimuta, I thank you at a seventeen minutes to six,

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Speaker 2: I was just complaining about the junk on my beach

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Speaker 2: that stinks, the compost that stinks. And I said, phone

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Speaker 2: the council, teaches, says, phone the council.

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Speaker 10: What are you?

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Speaker 2: It's all natural, Go down and put it on your garden.

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Speaker 2: Tell me, why doesn't the council go and gullip it

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Speaker 2: up and stick it on all its gardens that it

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Speaker 2: has around the place. It could do it. It's a resource.

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Speaker 2: But just get rid of it from the beach because

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Speaker 2: that stinks and it's big. And it is seventeen to six.

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Speaker 2: What's happening in America with the RFK confirmation hearing? Mitch

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Speaker 2: mc camp will tell you in a few moments time,

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Speaker 2: and before the end of the show. We're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about the new speed signs that are going up

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Speaker 2: all around the country.

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: It is fourteen to six. Let's go to America. Mitch McCann, Hello,

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Speaker 2: good morning, How are you very good? The RFK Robert F.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy confirmation continues and his cousin Caroline Kennedy has called

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Speaker 2: him a predator with family like that, who needs enemies?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right.

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Speaker 12: She put out this video yesterday saying that it was

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Speaker 12: difficult for her to speak out against her cousin because

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Speaker 12: they are a close family. However, she really did lay

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Speaker 12: into ARIFK. Junior. She called him a predator, and she

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Speaker 12: said that he used to gloat about putting chickens and

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Speaker 12: a blender to feed his hawks. Of course, Arif K

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Speaker 12: Junior today is facing a Senate confirmation hearing to be

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Speaker 12: a Cabinet Secretary for the Department of Health in the US,

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Speaker 12: essentially controlling the US Health Department. However, there are a

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Speaker 12: couple of problems. He denies vaccine science and science around fluoride,

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Speaker 12: and this morning he started his confirmation hearing saying that

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Speaker 12: American's overall health is in grievous condition, more so than

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Speaker 12: any other developed nation. And also this morning he's faced

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Speaker 12: a number of protesters inside the Congressional building. Someone stood

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Speaker 12: up and yelled he lies. Another person with a mask

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Speaker 12: on and holding a sign said vaccine saves lives also

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Speaker 12: interrupted Kennedy. So it's not been without a bit of

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Speaker 12: drama this morning than Washington.

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Speaker 2: With all this controversy, Is there any chance that he

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Speaker 2: might not get the nod?

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Speaker 12: Well, it seems like this will be the most difficult

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Speaker 12: of Donald Trump's cabinet nominations. Given that Pete Higgsith from

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Speaker 12: the Defense Department, he was sworn in a few days ago,

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Speaker 12: he was the one that was the most unlikely to

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Speaker 12: pass the test of the Senate. However, it remains to

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Speaker 12: be seen whether the Republicans they.

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Speaker 6: Only need three, they only need three.

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Speaker 12: To vote against him, and he will fail to get

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Speaker 12: through this confirmation hearing. So we're likely to hear after

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Speaker 12: his his hearing today whether or not he will reach

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Speaker 12: that threshold. But so he'll be sworn in in a

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Speaker 12: couple of days. Highly controversial over here, very good now.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's immigration policy has been put in place, and

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Speaker 2: then a week there's already been five thousand arrests there.

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Speaker 2: Cracking on.

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Speaker 12: They certainly are, and they are doing that in New

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Speaker 12: York now as well. And the new secretary for the

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Speaker 12: Department of Homeland Security was out on the beat with

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Speaker 12: enforcement OSSes yesterday morning, in fact, videoing from her phone

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Speaker 12: an immigrant being led out into a police fan in

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Speaker 12: the Bronx Now. She posted Christie nom a caption alongside

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Speaker 12: that saying, dirt bags like this will continue to be

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Speaker 12: removed from our streets. And it goes without saying this

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Speaker 12: is a real public relations exercise for Donald Trump as well.

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Speaker 12: The White House are posting images online of people in

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Speaker 12: handcuffs being led onto a military plane to go back

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Speaker 12: to places like Guatemala. Doctor Phil the TV Doctor, has

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Speaker 12: even been going out with ICE immigration agents in Chicago,

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Speaker 12: filming them for his TV channels. And then we've got

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Speaker 12: the secretary posting photos as well. So it's a policy

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Speaker 12: in the Trump administration, but it's also very much a

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Speaker 12: public relations exercise as well.

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Speaker 2: Much began, Hey, thank you so much for your time,

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Speaker 2: no worries, thank you very much. It's eleven to six.

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Speaker 1: Andrew digulous speed.

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Speaker 2: Limits have started going back up again. Thirty eight sections

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Speaker 2: of the State highway network will return to their previously

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Speaker 2: higher speed limits by July. The first State Highway two

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Speaker 2: between Featherston and Masterton is the first place to see

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Speaker 2: the increase that happened last night, and of course all

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Speaker 2: the politicians were there in front of the cameras going

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Speaker 2: haven't we done well? Glenn Coury is a certified safe

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Speaker 2: system assessor and level crossing safety impact accessor at a

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Speaker 2: company called via Strata and joins me Now, hall a.

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Speaker 4: Glenn, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Andrew didn't even know jobs like yours existed.

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Speaker 4: There's lots of safety jobs out there.

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Speaker 2: How did you get all the skills?

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Speaker 4: There's lots of training courses both here in Australia that

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Speaker 4: do things like that.

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Speaker 2: Are you for or against increasing speed limits for.

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Speaker 4: Most of these? Very much against. I see it as

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Speaker 4: a populous move really and in quite evidence free. You know,

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Speaker 4: there might be some sections that they're looking at, well,

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Speaker 4: there might be a case, but a lot of these

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Speaker 4: have already seen very good reductions and deaths and serious

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Speaker 4: injuries already.

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Speaker 2: So you reckon that they all need to be judged

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Speaker 2: on their own individual you know, status and how good

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Speaker 2: or bad the roads are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, And I think they've sort of gone with

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Speaker 4: people going it's slowing me down, terrible and all the

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Speaker 4: rest of it, rather than actually looking at the evidence

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Speaker 4: about what's actually happened on some of these roads.

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you have any in all your training, will

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Speaker 2: you got your skills? Do you have any proof that

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Speaker 2: raising the speed limits will increase productivity?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that one seems a bit of a misnomer as well,

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Speaker 4: because for a start, trucks can't go higher than the

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Speaker 4: ninety in In fact, even at eighty ks tends to be

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Speaker 4: their optimal speed, so that's probably not going to help them.

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Speaker 4: Some of the roads are talking about they're looking at

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Speaker 4: urban ones for example, and like Wellington near the Terrace

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Speaker 4: Tunnel's going to be a seventy k road. Well, the

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Speaker 4: problem is that rush hour on Wellington you're lucky if

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Speaker 4: you even don fifty at the moment.

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Speaker 2: That's true, but that's rush hour. But you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're at three o'clock in the morning and you've been

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Speaker 2: told to go, you know, seventy when you could quite

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Speaker 2: easily do one hundred, that hacks people off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that, if anything, you're going to be able

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Speaker 4: to go faster and other parts of the road or

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Speaker 4: other parts of the network, And so it's a bit

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Speaker 4: of a moment. At one section you've saved, yes, thirty seconds,

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Speaker 4: what are you going to do with thirty seconds?

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Speaker 2: Make a cup of coffee? Obviously? Now once okay, Well,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. The opponents, there's fear mongering. They're saying,

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Speaker 2: all these feedlomers go up, there's going to be a

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Speaker 2: big jump in the road toll. Do you believe that?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's what we've seen with the opposite. I guess

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Speaker 4: when they've come down. So some of the sections they're

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Speaker 4: looking at, say State Highway five, maybe the topor for example,

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Speaker 4: since it came in three years ago, we've seen about

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Speaker 4: more than forty percent drop in debts and serious injuries

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Speaker 4: there the one from Nelson to blend them that that's

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Speaker 4: been about a seventy percent drop. So it's really looking

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Speaker 4: back the other way, we could expect to see those

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Speaker 4: games go away.

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Speaker 2: The last speed limits that were reduced by the Labor government,

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Speaker 2: I think there was a list of about three hundred

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Speaker 2: of them, and most of them were outside of schools,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of the schools were in rural areas

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Speaker 2: where they were basically on state highways where going fast

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Speaker 2: and the schools wanted the cars to go slower around

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Speaker 2: the schools. There are a number of communities that have

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Speaker 2: these concerns. Should they have the ability to ask, if

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Speaker 2: not demand, a speed limit that's appropriate for their community

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Speaker 2: if they want to.

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Speaker 4: I think it's very important. And I see that a

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Speaker 4: lot of areas in the Tasman District, for example, have

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Speaker 4: been crying out for lower speeds on rural roads or

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Speaker 4: near schools and been a little bit frustrated that it

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Speaker 4: hasn't been happening. So I'm a little dispointed that we're

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Speaker 4: down to only getting consultation on state highways when a

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Speaker 4: lot of other local roads also should be looking at,

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Speaker 4: well what do the people actually want?

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Speaker 2: All right, Glen Couri, I thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: I ask you one last question. How much do you

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Speaker 2: reckon this is all going to cost us?

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Speaker 4: Well that's the other thing. Yeah, you go all the

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Speaker 4: work of putting signs up and now they're potentially going

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Speaker 4: to have to put new signs up, and it could

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Speaker 4: be rather piecemeal as well, you chop and change, So

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Speaker 4: it's adding up in terms of signs. Never mind, as

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Speaker 4: I say, the cost tenche to people's lives.

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Speaker 2: Gren Curry, I thank you so much. He's from a

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Speaker 2: company called v Strata and he looks at safety on

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Speaker 2: roads and it is six minutes to six, and a

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Speaker 2: text through just says that's rubbish. Trucks can easily do

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Speaker 2: one hundred. Yeah they can do one hundred, but often

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Speaker 2: they're not supposed to ninety. Limit's all over the place

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Speaker 2: for tracks all the time, even on the open road.

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Speaker 2: Six to six.

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Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in Depth

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Speaker 1: Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make

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Speaker 1: Your Property Search Simple News Talk Sid.

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Speaker 2: Be Goodbody, Mike Costing Morning. I was talking about John

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Speaker 2: Minto earlier this morning. Oh yeah I was, And I

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Speaker 2: was talking about how he seems to have some glee

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Speaker 2: at hunting down jews.

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Speaker 13: There's something wrong with people like that.

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Speaker 12: I was.

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Speaker 13: Funnily enough, I saw his photo yesterday and I thought

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Speaker 13: to myself, how long's he been around?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, you know what I was about to say. I

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Speaker 2: was about to say, you and John Minto have something

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Speaker 2: in common, which is what well, do you have a

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Speaker 2: portrait of Dorian Gray somewhere in your basement, and does

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Speaker 2: he have a portrait, Because I've been watching him since

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Speaker 2: I was a kid, and ever since he had a

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Speaker 2: megaphone with whole all racial tours, barking at everybody that

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Speaker 2: he could bark at, He's looked exactly the same. Well,

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Speaker 2: and so do you. Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 13: I've aged really well and that's widely accepted by most people.

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Speaker 13: But haven't sit there funnily enough. Funnily enough, I thought

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Speaker 13: yesterday when I saw him, I thought he's aged badly.

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Speaker 13: He looks the same. I know what he's saying, but

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Speaker 13: I thought he did.

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Speaker 2: But as the smile crease in his face has become.

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Speaker 13: Smile, well does he ever smile?

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Speaker 2: Okay, the grimace crease in his face has become particularly deep.

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Speaker 13: It's a funny way to live your life, isn't it.

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Speaker 13: I mean, there's nothing wrong with apartheid the first time around,

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Speaker 13: the genuine cause this time around, I don't know it.

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Speaker 2: Just people that could just cause it.

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Speaker 13: Of course, it's got ten seconds to see Jones on

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Speaker 13: the banks and fossil fuels.

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Speaker 2: Good show. Thank you, Leo. I'm Andrew Dickins. See you tomorrow.

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