1 00:00:07,133 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast 2 00:00:10,573 --> 00:00:13,373 Speaker 1: from News Talk ZEDB twenty. 3 00:00:13,133 --> 00:00:15,853 Speaker 2: To twelve on News Talks. 'd be another text here, Jack, 4 00:00:15,893 --> 00:00:18,693 Speaker 2: eighties children here, Disposable nappies were just becoming a thing. 5 00:00:18,693 --> 00:00:22,493 Speaker 2: And let me tell you, they were disgusting in the eighties, big, heavy, 6 00:00:22,613 --> 00:00:24,853 Speaker 2: cold and wet, so my kids just stayed in cloth. 7 00:00:25,293 --> 00:00:27,453 Speaker 2: They were cheaper, and the kids were all toilet trained 8 00:00:27,493 --> 00:00:30,773 Speaker 2: by the age of two. So what disposables have evolved? 9 00:00:30,773 --> 00:00:31,013 Speaker 3: Though? 10 00:00:31,053 --> 00:00:33,453 Speaker 2: They are no longer wet and cold, and that, in 11 00:00:33,453 --> 00:00:36,653 Speaker 2: my theory, is why children today don't toilet train nearly 12 00:00:36,733 --> 00:00:40,213 Speaker 2: as early, and disposables are pretty comfy. Gotta say thank 13 00:00:40,213 --> 00:00:42,413 Speaker 2: you for that. Ninety two to ninety two, Yes to 14 00:00:42,493 --> 00:00:45,413 Speaker 2: all of that. I think they can't possibly disagree. They're 15 00:00:45,453 --> 00:00:49,093 Speaker 2: probably also, they're more company, probably also slightly cheaper relative 16 00:00:49,133 --> 00:00:51,333 Speaker 2: to income compared to what they were back then, which 17 00:00:51,333 --> 00:00:53,853 Speaker 2: is not to say they're cheap. But you know my drift. 18 00:00:54,373 --> 00:00:55,933 Speaker 2: You can see me a text if you like. Catherin 19 00:00:55,973 --> 00:00:58,133 Speaker 2: Rain's our book reviewers here with her two reads for 20 00:00:58,173 --> 00:01:02,373 Speaker 2: the weekend. Hey Catherine, Jack, let's begin with your first recommendation. 21 00:01:02,453 --> 00:01:05,173 Speaker 2: Tell us about the forsaken by Matt Rodgers. 22 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:09,253 Speaker 3: So Logan Booth the main character in this thought he 23 00:01:09,373 --> 00:01:12,253 Speaker 3: had been a rogue assassin for this group of vigilantes 24 00:01:12,293 --> 00:01:16,493 Speaker 3: for the past ten years, and he's absolutely devastated to 25 00:01:16,573 --> 00:01:19,013 Speaker 3: learn he's actually been used by the CIA as a 26 00:01:19,053 --> 00:01:23,013 Speaker 3: contract killer to further government interests, and so he's kind 27 00:01:23,013 --> 00:01:25,973 Speaker 3: of in a path that's not great. And then his 28 00:01:26,093 --> 00:01:29,933 Speaker 3: longtime friend and a guy who's an investigative journalist, Chill Gromero, 29 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:32,933 Speaker 3: is murdered for attempting to cover for attempting to uncover 30 00:01:32,973 --> 00:01:38,333 Speaker 3: political corruption, and Logan's very determined to seek justice, and 31 00:01:38,373 --> 00:01:41,453 Speaker 3: he ends up forming this very unlikely bond with witness 32 00:01:42,013 --> 00:01:45,253 Speaker 3: girl called Alice, who's our homeless drug addict, and they 33 00:01:45,293 --> 00:01:48,133 Speaker 3: both sort of joined forces to seek revenge. And through 34 00:01:48,173 --> 00:01:50,773 Speaker 3: the story you learn about Alice in her life on 35 00:01:50,813 --> 00:01:53,053 Speaker 3: the streets, but what her life was like before then 36 00:01:53,293 --> 00:01:56,053 Speaker 3: and the aftermath, some of the decisions that she makes, 37 00:01:56,093 --> 00:01:58,773 Speaker 3: and she's a really lost soul and she's feeling very worthless. 38 00:01:59,413 --> 00:02:02,493 Speaker 3: And you follow Logan and Alice's story in this friendship 39 00:02:02,493 --> 00:02:04,613 Speaker 3: of people who actually you think it from do very 40 00:02:04,653 --> 00:02:07,213 Speaker 3: different worlds. But as the story move through, you realize 41 00:02:07,213 --> 00:02:09,133 Speaker 3: that they aren't that different than the both got fairs 42 00:02:09,213 --> 00:02:12,373 Speaker 3: and things that they are struggling to break through from 43 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:14,613 Speaker 3: and a pass that they just don't want to know about. 44 00:02:15,053 --> 00:02:18,693 Speaker 3: And it's perfect for readers who like revenge stories, conspiracy, 45 00:02:18,813 --> 00:02:22,133 Speaker 3: corruption thrillers. And you can see it as you're reading, 46 00:02:22,173 --> 00:02:25,093 Speaker 3: playing out as a movie at some point. But yeah, 47 00:02:25,093 --> 00:02:27,253 Speaker 3: it's a good read, a little bit violent, but a 48 00:02:27,253 --> 00:02:28,133 Speaker 3: good read all the same. 49 00:02:28,253 --> 00:02:30,893 Speaker 2: Yeah. Nice. Okay, that's The Forsaken by Matt Rodgers. You've 50 00:02:30,893 --> 00:02:35,013 Speaker 2: also read Not Quite Dead Yet by Holly Jackson. 51 00:02:35,813 --> 00:02:38,693 Speaker 3: So this is Holly Jackson's first adult novel. She's more 52 00:02:38,733 --> 00:02:42,333 Speaker 3: known for her young adult novels, and this one is 53 00:02:42,413 --> 00:02:45,693 Speaker 3: set in Woodstock in Vermont, and twenty seven year old 54 00:02:45,773 --> 00:02:49,333 Speaker 3: Jet has a week weirdly to solve her own murder. 55 00:02:49,693 --> 00:02:53,333 Speaker 3: She receives several blows to the head during her attempted murder, 56 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:55,493 Speaker 3: and the doctors have told her that she's got a 57 00:02:55,493 --> 00:03:00,133 Speaker 3: week to live until her injuries course this huge aneurysm, 58 00:03:00,133 --> 00:03:02,133 Speaker 3: and we'll leave her dead. And she's determined she's going 59 00:03:02,173 --> 00:03:04,853 Speaker 3: to use that time to catch a killer, and so 60 00:03:04,853 --> 00:03:07,893 Speaker 3: she teams up with her childhood billy, who's this amazing 61 00:03:07,933 --> 00:03:10,373 Speaker 3: human being and everything jack could want and a friend. 62 00:03:10,973 --> 00:03:13,773 Speaker 3: There were lots of suspects, her family, her ex boyfriend, 63 00:03:13,853 --> 00:03:17,413 Speaker 3: her best friend, and she's determined in those seven days 64 00:03:17,413 --> 00:03:19,413 Speaker 3: to figure out who might want to see her dead. 65 00:03:19,573 --> 00:03:22,253 Speaker 3: And she discovers, of course, some secrets about people close 66 00:03:22,293 --> 00:03:25,093 Speaker 3: to her, and it's all about that, the secrets and lies, 67 00:03:25,573 --> 00:03:29,253 Speaker 3: and Holly Jackson has this really amazing way of giving 68 00:03:29,293 --> 00:03:33,373 Speaker 3: you everyday characters full of complexities, and managers to kind 69 00:03:33,413 --> 00:03:36,733 Speaker 3: of show you all of their characters and their backstory. 70 00:03:36,733 --> 00:03:38,773 Speaker 3: And there's lots of twists and turns, and as I said, 71 00:03:38,813 --> 00:03:41,973 Speaker 3: those characters are complex and interesting and a really engaging 72 00:03:41,973 --> 00:03:44,613 Speaker 3: plot from a premise that sounds a little bit weird, 73 00:03:44,613 --> 00:03:47,533 Speaker 3: but actually, for some reason, this story just really works 74 00:03:47,573 --> 00:03:48,693 Speaker 3: and it's a very good readon. 75 00:03:48,773 --> 00:03:51,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the Preyers are sound a little implausible 76 00:03:51,173 --> 00:03:52,173 Speaker 2: to say the least. 77 00:03:51,893 --> 00:03:54,533 Speaker 3: But I don't think you'd probably, I don't think you 78 00:03:54,613 --> 00:03:57,213 Speaker 3: probably feel like solving your own murder in that seven days. 79 00:03:57,773 --> 00:04:01,573 Speaker 3: This story, Yeah, Jetnist just decides that she's going to 80 00:04:01,613 --> 00:04:04,933 Speaker 3: find out and yeah, some interesting characters that appear and 81 00:04:05,013 --> 00:04:07,373 Speaker 3: some interesting backstories that she discovers along the way. 82 00:04:07,573 --> 00:04:09,693 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, cool, So That's Not Quite Dead Yet by 83 00:04:09,733 --> 00:04:13,533 Speaker 2: Holly Jackson. 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