1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Shane Jones is drafting a bill to force the country's 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: largest ewe into a single treaty settlement, North Island Ewe. 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Napui is made up of a whole bunch of different 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: hauppoo and lots of them want to settle individually. Shane 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: was on the My Costing breakfast this morning. 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: We've reached a point where we can no longer afford 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 2: this hamster wheel politics, said Napo. He has descended into 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: our bill will ensure that Hapoo sovereignty never gets to 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: mention undivided sovereignty, undivided citizenship is what I believe in. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: Looking nata Hena is one of the Napoe Happo. Peta 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Tippani is a leader of Natahana and with us now 12 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Hipeta got a happy new Year and and to you, 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: thank you very much. What do you think of this bill? 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: Well, let's just say that Napihin, who's made up of 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 3: nine Huppo's a collective that is affiliated to Napuhi. There 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: are a number of collectives. We've all been making great progress. 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: We're working with the Minister David Goldsmith has two chief 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: negotiators and and so we are making very good progress. 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: He is the minister. That's who we had conversations with, 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: and that's how we want to keep it because we 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: don't want to be talking to the minister or anybody 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: else for that matter, through the media. 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: Okay, but are you going to accept what Shane Jones 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: is going to do if he does it? 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 3: No, Let's just say, exactly one hundred and eighty years ago, 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 3: a battle was fought nearby, exactly one hundred and eighty 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 3: years ago, by the way, where a large military British 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: force camped and then subsequently attacked a local par which 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 3: is a battle long forgotten in most minds, and unfortunately 30 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 3: they charged the par and within five to seven minutes 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: over one hundred British soldiers were lying either dead or 32 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: dying on the field. A colonial government was trying to 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 3: bring up to heal one hundred and eighty years ago. 34 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 3: No colonial government then or modern government now will bring 35 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: them up. Will he have to heal? 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Okay? So what if he does this? 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Though? 38 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: What if Shane Jones does it and says that it's 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: only going to take basically one group to sign this 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: on behalf of everybody. There are some there are some 41 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: huppoo who want to sign this A So is it 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 1: possible that you get undermined by them? 43 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Look, as I say, we're very progressive and proactive people, 44 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: and there may be a feeling throughout the country through 45 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 3: through our citizens that we don't want to move forward. 46 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: We do and we are and we're moving forward with 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: this government and doing well. That somebody has come in 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 3: from the side and given an opinion that about a 49 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 3: future bill is only confusing things and it's very unfortunate. 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Is there a problem with that? Is that do you 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: guys want to and agree to disagree clause in there 52 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: where you basically do not accept that sovereignty was seeded 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: very much. 54 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: So we're no different to any other EWI I would 55 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 3: imagine around the country. 56 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, listen, Peter, I really appreciate your time. 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Good luck with it. It's Peter Tippany, 58 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: who's a leader for. 59 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: More from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news Talks. 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 61 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.