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Speaker 2: Hed b Wanning and Welcome today. Food inflation adds to

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Speaker 2: our ongoing cost of living issues. Banks look like they're

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Speaker 2: lending least to small business now is that deliberate or

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Speaker 2: just a lack of demand? We got new numbers around

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Speaker 2: see price in Australia for you as well. Posky, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the day seven past six. Right for day three,

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Speaker 2: Let's deal with the economy. Two things happened to me

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Speaker 2: yesterday the food price inflation? Will that happened to us all?

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Speaker 3: Of course?

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Speaker 2: The food price inflation. It is not contained now. Why

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Speaker 2: it's increasing beyond broad inflation is a many in varied thing.

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Speaker 2: And the upside of these numbers is we can control

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Speaker 2: them to a degree. Think about it. You don't have

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Speaker 2: to buy chocolate given cocos through the roof. You don't

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Speaker 2: have to buy butter or a lot of dairy are veggies?

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Speaker 2: I noted up? This is seasonal seasonal fruit and vegies,

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Speaker 2: though generally are reasonably priced. Water, though, which was the

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Speaker 2: second thing, is not a luxury. Our bill arrived yesterday,

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Speaker 2: yet again the price is going up, this time over

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Speaker 2: seven percent. It's like the rates, it's like electricity. They're

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Speaker 2: all going up, and they're all going up beyond the

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Speaker 2: band of inflation. Now, the trouble with this is several fault. Firstly,

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Speaker 2: it is in and of itself inflationary, and it isn't productive.

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Speaker 2: In other words, we are no better off. I still

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Speaker 2: use the same water, it just cost more. Normally or ideally,

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Speaker 2: what you want is more stuff done to produce the

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Speaker 2: income to afford the bill. So the cost of living

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Speaker 2: is going up three percent and your income is going

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Speaker 2: up five percent. Where okay, we're ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 2: This sadly is not happening. So we have most likely

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Speaker 2: no growth driving the economy at the moment, and yet

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Speaker 2: we have increasing cost to operate that non productive economy

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Speaker 2: that my friends, is called stagflation. So can we control

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Speaker 2: Israel attacking Iran and the oil price spiking?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: Can we control the cost of shipping through troubled Middle

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: But can we control to some degree this incessant cost

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Speaker 2: plus accounting that's going on domestically by people who got

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Speaker 2: the taste of price increases during COVID and basically stopped. Well,

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Speaker 2: you would hope so, because this is a government thing,

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Speaker 2: a central government thing, especially given a lot of these businesses,

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Speaker 2: whether the power companies or water agencies or councils, have

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Speaker 2: a major central government input. If the banks were right

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Speaker 2: yesterday upon the release of the services sected numbers when

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Speaker 2: they said this was an economy in recession again, price

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Speaker 2: rises in food and water aren't helping what is becoming

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Speaker 2: an alarmingly large hole.

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Speaker 2: I'll come back to the shipping in Hamus in just

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Speaker 2: a couple of moments. No, I haven't got the I've

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Speaker 2: thrown it out. We seem to be some sort of

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Speaker 2: weird holding pattern on this new war. Trump bailed on

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Speaker 1: Give up that's passd.

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Speaker 2: The British goes starmer still in Canada. He's got a theory.

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Speaker 6: I sat next to the President for that to our

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Speaker 6: discussion as we were working through not just the issues

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Speaker 6: but the statement itself. So you're not worried about escalation,

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Speaker 6: I'm clear that we need to be.

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Speaker 7: Are you worried about escalation?

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Speaker 2: So I'm worried about escalation? Deferentse Secretary probably speaks for

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Speaker 2: most of us.

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Speaker 6: I repeat the calls on all sides to show restraint

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Speaker 6: this afternoon, because a diplomatic resolution rather than military action,

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Speaker 6: really is the only route to lasting stability in the region.

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Speaker 2: The Iranians running the usual line about nukes.

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Speaker 8: It's not only for international obligation. This is our religious

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Speaker 8: teachings that all of the mass destruction beapen is prohibit

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Speaker 2: As far as another war goes as the Middle East war,

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Speaker 2: the Medico is still sick of being shot at in Gaza.

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Speaker 9: The United Nations know what has to be done in Gaza.

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Speaker 9: We know how to liver care, we know how to

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Speaker 2: The in state side, they've got a police briefing on

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Speaker 10: now sobering?

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Speaker 11: Why that the threat, the threat to public officials and

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Speaker 11: the families is very real and very widespread.

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Speaker 12: Is enough being done right now?

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Speaker 3: No one needs to be done well.

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Speaker 2: We're discussing that finally, airline of wartime, Kata Guitari Waves

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Speaker 2: has been named the world's best dairline again ninth time,

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Speaker 2: best Middle East airline obviously, as well as best business class.

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Speaker 2: That's the sweet Singapore second along with best cabin crew.

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Speaker 2: They got the best first class and the best airline

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Speaker 2: A and A all Nippon Airways are fifteen in New

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Speaker 2: globally speaking, the Strait of Hormusa is becoming increasingly, as

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Speaker 2: And that is as we speak, what is happening. So

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Speaker 2: watch out for the price of oil and the price

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Speaker 2: to you, Morning to Mike. Yeah, those retail numbers this morning.

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Speaker 13: So the Americans are definitely pulled back from that pre

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Speaker 13: So they're saving rather than splashing the cash at shops

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Speaker 13: to see how that affects things, but certainly important consumer accunts.

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Speaker 13: With seventy percent of the world's largest economy, this report

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Speaker 2: They might all right, and then we come back home

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Speaker 2: and then we've got food prices here as well.

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Speaker 2: That is the truth. Go well, catch up to morrow.

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Speaker 2: Grigsmith Demon Fund's management task, how to Train Your Dragon

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Speaker 2: It be mentioned the free votes in the commons the

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Speaker 2: The fun fact for this Wednesday, streaming in the States

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Speaker 2: The game to have state of origin tonight. Of course,

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Speaker 2: You've got your former Blues player Aaron Woods. He's on

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Speaker 10: When you hold a position in the media in our game,

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Speaker 14: I know Aaron Woods.

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Speaker 10: I actually ran into him about three or four weeks

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Speaker 10: He actually brought his son over to introduce him to me.

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Speaker 10: And I get the attention in our game, but there's

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Speaker 10: you're all in that we're all in. I'm not done yet.

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Speaker 10: You don't know what people are going through, and although

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Speaker 2: There's your answer, particularly articulate. The last coach you referred to,

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Speaker 2: But ten percent of their items in America, they keep

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Speaker 2: I don't know whether that means they're going to pull

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Speaker 2: great deal ofmentrist there is reported this morning the banks

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Speaker 2: Togs dead be not. Although the social media as we

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Speaker 2: a sign of the squeeze on the economy? Bank lending

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Speaker 2: for small businesses has slowed growth rates now just one

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Speaker 2: Now Phil Wicks's the Small Business New Zealand founder and

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Speaker 15: You, Good morning, very well.

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Speaker 2: Indeed some of the dark rice scene. It used to

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Speaker 2: be six percent growth, no outstandard one point five What

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Speaker 15: Think that's attitude and a lack of understanding. I think

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Speaker 15: sometimes the banks assess small business like it's the eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 15: They often will look at historical financials when they should

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Speaker 15: be looking at, you know what, where the business is,

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Speaker 15: what's what quotes are on the table, and it's lazy

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Speaker 15: risk assessment. They've got clients or there are small businesses

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Speaker 2: Does it vary widely from being tobank depending on who

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Speaker 15: No, not really, I mean I think I think that.

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Speaker 15: I mean, there is definitely an opportunity for some bank

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Speaker 15: I think small business is often less risky than big business.

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Speaker 15: You know, they will mortgage their house before they default

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Speaker 15: from alone. A lot of these business owners you're learning

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly I'm read. Is there a suggestion there's some

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Speaker 2: say to a house. Put the money into a house.

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Speaker 2: It's easier.

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Speaker 15: Oh that's that's It's easier and easier and faster. And

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Speaker 15: I think, you know, I think the banks will loan

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Speaker 15: to big business. You know, it's a lot easier for

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Speaker 15: I suppose that's where the margin is, so that's where

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Speaker 15: It's costing the country of productivity and growth. What they

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Speaker 15: think if one bank, one bank really steps up, could

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Speaker 15: really own that segment. It's a branding and trust opportunity

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Speaker 2: Do they know that? I mean, we'll get them on

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Speaker 2: But listen, Mike, here's what we've learned from lending to

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Speaker 15: A couple of years ago I was asked to speak

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Speaker 16: We should.

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Speaker 15: A lot of our good people come in and end

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Speaker 2: Good insight feel this will get a bank on eventually,

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Speaker 2: it surprises me to a degree. Philwick, Small Business New

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Speaker 2: dot zscy some good news for business, which is good.

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Speaker 2: This is the two degrees. If you even't caught up

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Speaker 2: on this. This survey about five hundred odd businesses they

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Speaker 2: talked to over April and May. Optimism highest level recorded

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Speaker 2: in the survey. Good was off a low base fifty

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Speaker 2: two percent planning to increase investment. That's up from forty

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Speaker 2: six percent last year and twenty eight percent the year before.

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Speaker 2: Over half fifty two percent plan to invest in business development,

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Speaker 2: sales and marketing. Good Good good thirty five percent last year.

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Speaker 2: So that's a material increase. But here we go. A

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Speaker 2: third of businesses started the show. With this third of

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Speaker 2: businesses cost increases of more than forty percent, things like electricity.

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Speaker 2: Got to get it. We've got to get a handle

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 5: Six forty five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance.

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Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: No problemate, Donald morning, Good morning, right situation room. Where

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Speaker 2: are we at?

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Speaker 17: Well, it's still meeting. But as you've been noting, there

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Speaker 17: are some stark new social media posts from Trump in

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Speaker 17: the background of all of this. We could be on

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Speaker 17: the brink of a rapid shift in the American role.

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Speaker 17: Trump wrote, quote, we emphasize on the word emphasis on

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Speaker 17: the word wi. We now have complete and total control

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Speaker 17: of the skies over Iran. Here's what is ready, Leader

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Speaker 17: nettno who said in here's latest US interview.

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Speaker 2: We control the skies of Tehran.

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Speaker 17: So sound familia, Trump, echoing Nettnohu. Trump also put out

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Speaker 17: a veiled threat to the Iranian leader a Kamani quote.

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Speaker 17: We again, we know where he is hiding. Trump calls

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Speaker 17: the Iotola quote an easy target, while adding he is

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Speaker 17: safe for now. Netnio, who also danced around the idea

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Speaker 17: that Israel might seek to assassinate the Eetola. He told

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Speaker 17: American ABC.

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Speaker 4: We're doing what we need to do. I'm not going

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Speaker 4: to get into the details. It's not going to escalate

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Speaker 4: the conflict. It's going to end the conflict.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 17: After leaving the G seven summit in Canada a day early,

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Speaker 17: Trump said that the people of Tehran should quote evacuate immediately.

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Speaker 17: On his plane trip back to Washington, Trump said this

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Speaker 17: to be said once again, this echoes the statements of

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Speaker 17: Israel's Netno who who said this.

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Speaker 4: What we're doing is targeting regime sites, nuclear sites, military sides,

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Speaker 4: and ballistic missile sites that are embedded in Tehran. We're

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Speaker 4: telling the people leave, leave the zone of battle so

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Speaker 4: that you're not heard, and in fact they are leaving well.

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Speaker 17: Aerial views show massive traffic jams with people fleeing Tehran

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Speaker 17: at the minute, a city of what ten million people. Meantime,

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Speaker 17: there was an Israeli strike on Iran's state television. Many

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Speaker 17: will have seen this video or presento shown fleeing in

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Speaker 17: the midst of collapsing walls and smoke rising up. Israel

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Speaker 17: says it hit the TV studios since they are key

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Speaker 17: to Iranian propaganda. Trump's choice here is continuing to plembency,

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Speaker 17: or more directly siding with Israel militarily and perhaps using

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Speaker 17: the American bunker busting bomb, which is so huge it

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Speaker 17: can only be dropped by American be to bombers to

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Speaker 17: destroy the underground Iranian nuclear side of FODO. That is

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Speaker 17: a thirteen six hundred kilogram bomb. Its use would have

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Speaker 17: reversed many years of American policy on Iran. Just days ago,

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Speaker 17: in late May, Trump had warned Netanyahu against an Iranian attack,

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Speaker 17: saying it would destroy diplomatic options. Then on June the fourth,

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Speaker 17: Iran rejected the latest Trump proposal. However, there is a

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Speaker 17: long history with all of it like this.

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Speaker 4: Iran is so dangerous weeks away from having the fiscile

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Speaker 4: material for an entire arsenal of nuclear bards.

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Speaker 17: That was Netnio Who's saying Iran was just weeks off

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Speaker 17: from having an arsenal of nuke's. That was Netnio who

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Speaker 17: in twenty fifteen, there is a split among Trump's supporters

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Speaker 17: over direct American involvement in the war with Iran. This

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Speaker 17: could turn out to be Trump's biggest.

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Speaker 2: Decision indeed, and then we come to the business businessman

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Speaker 2: the Apolis or Minnesota the other day in this I mean,

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Speaker 2: what do we do to protect politicians? For goodness?

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Speaker 17: Say, well, in Washington, DC, they're worried about their own security.

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Speaker 17: They're asking to Speaker of a more funding for security

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Speaker 17: following those shootings where of course, the state poly and

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Speaker 17: her husband were killed, nan two others have been critically wounded.

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Speaker 17: Now the latest information shows that those wounded State Senator

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Speaker 17: John Hoffman and his wife were hit by a total

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Speaker 17: of seventeen bullets. Somehow, they're still hanging on to life.

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Speaker 17: The accused assassin, Evans Belta, who now is in custody,

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Speaker 17: is charged with the murders and other crimes. There is

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Speaker 17: also a furor over the politic and Utah Senator Might

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Speaker 17: Lee posted what I guess he thought was a joke.

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Speaker 17: Is this funny? Headlining a photo is quote nightmare on

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Speaker 17: Wall Street? Referring to Tim Waltsley, Minnesota governor who ran

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Speaker 17: as Kamala Harris's deputy. He was also on the list

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Speaker 17: of this alleged assassin's targets potential target So jokes about

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Speaker 17: political assassination that is pretty low. Well, Trump himself says

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Speaker 17: he hasn't bothered to call Tim Waltz, who was, as

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Speaker 17: I say, on the target list.

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Speaker 12: Would make a call, say hi, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: Theagel? He said, he's a mess, so you know it

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Speaker 2: could be na.

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Speaker 17: Why waste Trump himself, of course targeted twice with compassion

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Speaker 17: for said Trump, why waste time?

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Speaker 2: We can appreciate it very much. Richard Arnold stateside, by

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Speaker 2: the way, there's a scrap of sorts over the phone

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Speaker 2: that we announced yesterday, the Trump Company launching a mobile

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Speaker 2: app and a phone and a service and all that

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Speaker 2: sort of stuff. He claims the phone's going to be

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Speaker 2: made in America. Everyone in the industry can't see how

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Speaker 2: that's possible because they don't make phones in America. It

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Speaker 2: will be Chinese made, which is I wrong. Joey Chestnut

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Speaker 2: is back for the fourth of July Hot Dog eating Contest.

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Speaker 2: If you missed this last year, he was banned because

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Speaker 2: he did a deal with some of those people who

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Speaker 2: don't like eating meat, and so they banned him. But

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Speaker 2: he's now back. He's held the title sixteen times. July

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Speaker 2: fourth it's coming ten minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Myke Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real estate news talks,

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Speaker 1: there'd be it's some very.

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Speaker 2: Good feedback on the business of the bank loans and

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Speaker 2: the business bank loans. I'll come back to that after

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Speaker 2: run seven thirty. After seven o'clock this morning. I might

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Speaker 2: have missed this, and I'm not sure, but I've been

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Speaker 2: looking into it. I can't give you an explanation. So

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Speaker 2: originally Trump banned nationals from twelve countries, right, he also

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Speaker 2: put in partial restrictions for another seven. State Department is

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Speaker 2: currently looking at thirty six more. Now what's interesting about

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Speaker 2: that is then some of them you go, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get that, Angola, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Democratic Republic

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Speaker 2: of Congo, Ethiopia, Egypt, Gambia, Ghana, Kazakhstan, Liberia, Malawi. But

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Speaker 2: then we've got a couple of locals here Tonga to

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Speaker 2: Varalu and Vanova two. Now why and I was trying

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Speaker 2: to think about Astrola. I can't find an explanation for it.

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Speaker 2: Could it be the link potentially in his mind, the

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Speaker 2: administration's mind or versus the real to China. Is that

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Speaker 2: what that's about? Now They've got sixty days to do

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Speaker 2: whatever it is the Americans want to convince the Americans

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Speaker 2: they're safe. But imagine the implications for this part of

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Speaker 2: the world if people from Tonga to Varalu and Vanova

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Speaker 2: two can no longer go to the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: Could it be they've got too many penguins there? Five

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Speaker 2: minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: And the ouse. It's the fizz with business Faber, take

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Speaker 1: your business productivity to the next list.

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Speaker 2: Oh more good news on Canterbury. Sorry to you know

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Speaker 2: boy your witness with it, but the latest started. This

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Speaker 2: is the ASP Regional Economic Scorecard four Q one. They

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Speaker 2: rank economic performance of the regions on top Canterbury yet

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Speaker 2: again oring top of the economic performance surgeon, consumer confidence,

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Speaker 2: population growth, improved housing market basically the South Island's the

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Speaker 2: place to be. West Coast was second. That's construction growth,

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Speaker 2: retail and house sales. If you don't like either of

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Speaker 2: those two, you can hear to Otago, Central Lakes, Queenstown

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Speaker 2: and other words or wanaka wah nakha as they say

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Speaker 2: on the TV one these days. Third, they've won the

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Speaker 2: last two quarters but slipped. Queenstown tourism big part of that.

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Speaker 2: Marlborough four. North Island comes to the table with the

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Speaker 2: Waikato in the fifth place, Auckland tenth, so the engine

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Speaker 2: room of the economy in tenth. How many regions in

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Speaker 2: the country are they? Well, there are sixteen, so ten

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Speaker 2: of sixteen is not particularly good. Wellington fifteen. But that's

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Speaker 2: we all understand Wellington and we're with you. Also belief

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Speaker 2: of Wellington worst performing region is Gisman sixteen, sixteenth place

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Speaker 2: on the plate. To tell you, Mike, we're working with

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Speaker 2: one of the banks. There's more. We us came from

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Speaker 2: for business overdraft. We're a small medium business with government

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Speaker 2: contracts and retail. The issues I see are the banks

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Speaker 2: don't have business managers who are ask how your business works.

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Speaker 2: They just fill in paperwork on the phone or email.

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Speaker 2: Our business was growing year on year until the government

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Speaker 2: cuts spending. So there's probably detail in each and every

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Speaker 2: individual story, isn't there, But there might be something here

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Speaker 2: as too, And so we will eventually get one of

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Speaker 2: the banks on, or a couple of the banks on,

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Speaker 2: and we'll ask them a few questions. Now, food price inflation,

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Speaker 2: can we explain it away? Can we go copies up?

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Speaker 2: Of course it is chop the top. Of course, it

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Speaker 2: is non seasonal fruit. Individuals, what what do you expect me?

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Speaker 2: Of course they're more expensive, or is there more to

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Speaker 2: it than that? Chris Quinn is back from the supermarket

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Speaker 2: for you. Simeon Brown does have some recentably good numbers

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Speaker 2: around our health service and how we're making some progress there,

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Speaker 2: So he's with us after seven p thirty.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day the

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Speaker 1: my casting Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, doing real estate

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Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three US togsdad be.

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Speaker 2: Only seven past sevens have food price inflation spiked some?

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Speaker 2: What our new numbers have prices up four point four

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Speaker 2: percent for the year to May. That's up from three

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Speaker 2: point seven and n April. It's the old favorites that

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Speaker 2: have come to the party, dairy, meat and poultry, but

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Speaker 2: is up fifty one of course. Chris Quinn's Food starts

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Speaker 2: North Island CEO and is back with us. Chris, good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike. The value of the numbers that we

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Speaker 2: saw headline wise yesterday versus the cost of actually doing business?

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Speaker 2: Are you guys keeping your costs under control? Beyond the

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Speaker 2: obvious look.

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Speaker 14: I think the best way of explaining that is that

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Speaker 14: the stats New Zealand Food price basket went at four

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Speaker 14: point four percent, as you mentioned, our retail prices for

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Speaker 14: the same period went not three point two percent. So

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Speaker 14: US working on our efficiency and us making the decision

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Speaker 14: not to pass on all of these product cost increases

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Speaker 14: to our customers is what makes that difference. So we're

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Speaker 14: doing everything we can, but the same cost increases for energy,

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Speaker 14: for people, for all of those things do affect every

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Speaker 14: one of our owner operator businesses.

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Speaker 2: And are you an outlier in that in any way,

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Speaker 2: shape or form, In other words, your wages, your transports,

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Speaker 2: any different from anybody else who would be passing on

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Speaker 2: some of the costs in the economy at.

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Speaker 14: The moment, not fundamentally different.

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Speaker 2: No, okay, So when we talk about these numbers, once

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Speaker 2: you strip out the stuff that you can avoid, once

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Speaker 2: you strip out the stuff you can explain away. Is

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Speaker 2: the price of food materially going up in a way

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Speaker 2: that we can't explain.

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Speaker 14: I think it's it can be explained. That does not

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Speaker 14: make it any easier for any household who is stirring

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Speaker 14: into this alongside all the other costs. So you know

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Speaker 14: the understanding what's driving it. It's important because I guess

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Speaker 14: it's understanding the cause and do these people the position

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Speaker 14: with that.

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Speaker 2: Or is just blaming you guys the easy out look.

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Speaker 14: We have the privilege of serving four point one million

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Speaker 14: customers a week in terms of number of visits we see,

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Speaker 14: so the only people they can talk to are us

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Speaker 14: because we have the food on the shelf and the price.

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Speaker 14: But it is important.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 14: Butter is probably the classic right now. It has gone

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Speaker 14: up fifty five percent in a year. That is fantastic

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Speaker 14: for New Zealand's economy, but very tough for households who

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Speaker 14: are buying product. Now we're seeing the same tomatoes we've

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Speaker 14: got mishe in Australia, where we're not allowed to import

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Speaker 14: from Australia. So I've seen a thirty percent increase in

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Speaker 14: those eighteen percent up and Kiwi for it. Another great

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Speaker 14: export story. But that part of our economy means that

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Speaker 14: the basic cost of those products increases at retail because

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Speaker 14: nearly seventy percent of what makes up a dollar on

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Speaker 14: shelf comes from the cost of the goods.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing we can do. Chris, appreciate it very much. Again,

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Speaker 2: Chris Quinn, who's the food Stuff's Northland c But this

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Speaker 2: is an example morning, Mike and I'll come back to

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Speaker 2: the answer morning. Mike. Understand global meet and dairy prices,

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Speaker 2: but why can't the New Zealand export or producer not

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Speaker 2: deduct the international marketing and freight off the domestic costs? Max,

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Speaker 2: let me come back to that. Ten minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: all right, So the government's having another crack at mental health.

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Speaker 2: We've got a new suicide Prevention Action Plan. This is

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Speaker 2: a five year old of government approach. Thirty six million

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Speaker 2: has been set aside prevention fund for rural and young people,

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Speaker 2: crisis recovery cafes, expanding suicide prevention training. Sean Robinson is

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Speaker 2: the Mental Health Foundation boss and is back well the

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Speaker 2: Shawn and good moell to you.

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Speaker 11: Good morning.

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Speaker 2: Make you like what you see? Is this any different

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Speaker 2: or more of the same.

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Speaker 11: I'd say we're grateful for small mercies. I think this

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Speaker 11: plan does take us forward in some areas and there

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Speaker 11: is some new resource applied to it. But we are

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Speaker 11: in a very resource constrained environment at the moment when

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Speaker 11: there's not a lot of funding from government around. So yeah, well,

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Speaker 11: everybody will do their best with what's available here, but

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Speaker 11: there's a lot more that could be done.

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Speaker 2: How much is needed. I mean, we got one point

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Speaker 2: nine and what was it, the famous you know, the

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Speaker 2: Goodwill budget or the Good Living whatever the hell Grant

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Speaker 2: Robertson called. It's another thirty So how much is needed?

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Speaker 2: How many billions do you need?

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Speaker 11: Well, look, mental health is a huge issue across the

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Speaker 11: whole New Zealand population and it's been undercooked and under

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Speaker 11: resourced and scope for decades, in fact forever really, so

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Speaker 11: you know, people may think that one point nine billion

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Speaker 11: was a huge number and should have fixed everything.

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Speaker 2: But well, there is a huge number.

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Speaker 11: Well it is a big number, but you know, when

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Speaker 11: you consider what gets spent on the whole of health,

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Speaker 11: you know it's not a very big number. But you know,

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Speaker 11: we're talking here about an additional nineteen millionaire year going

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Speaker 11: into suicide prevention, which brings the whole budget around suicide

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Speaker 11: prevention you know up to under forty million are years.

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Speaker 11: So that's not a very big number for what is

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Speaker 11: you know, one of the biggest causes of preventable death in.

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Speaker 2: Which was my next question. Are we an outlier in

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Speaker 2: the Western world? Is there something wrong with our mental

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Speaker 2: health that we're particularly vulnerable, or are we just like

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Speaker 2: every other Western country.

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Speaker 11: Well, look, we're not as an much of an outlier

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Speaker 11: as people portray it that rising suicide numbers or persistently

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Speaker 11: high suicide is a global issue. We have particularly high

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Speaker 11: youth suicide, but again we're not the only country in

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Speaker 11: the world that has that issue. So it's not quite

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Speaker 11: true that New Zealand's just getting this completely wrong. That

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Speaker 11: doesn't mean that we don't need to do everything we

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Speaker 11: can to reduce these numbers. Now, on the other hand,

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Speaker 11: the numbers have been starting to come down a bit

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Speaker 11: in the last three or four years. You know, they're

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Speaker 11: still persistently high, but we need to remember that there

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Speaker 11: are far more stories of hope than there are of despair. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Good, Well, I'm encouraged about that really quickly because I'm

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Speaker 2: sure it on time. Is it pure money or is

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Speaker 2: it resource as well? In other words, you could have

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Speaker 2: the money, you just can't get the people.

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Speaker 11: Look, it's a bit of both. Now you need the

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Speaker 11: money in order to train and hire the people, but

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Speaker 11: you know, definitely more money to create more services, to

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Speaker 11: do more training, to put more training into school so

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Speaker 11: young people are able to cope with emotions and with

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Speaker 11: Vice's curve board, all of those things are important.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic Sean, appreciate your time, good luck with the work.

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Speaker 2: Shawan Robinson Mental Health Foundation head thirteen minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: just back from Hawaii. Can buy butter at five cents.

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Speaker 2: It's the usual text, stop texting me this stuff that

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Speaker 2: we've already discovered. Cost Co sell butter as a lost leader.

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Speaker 2: They sell butter at a lost leader. They don't make

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Speaker 2: money on butter, so it's got nothing to do. As

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Speaker 2: for the subsidization on international marketing and freight, fine, who

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Speaker 2: would you want to pay it? Because the bill's not that,

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Speaker 2: the bill hasn't gone anywhere. Who would you pay it?

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Speaker 2: Who shall pay it? So you'll go, well, what about

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Speaker 2: the person in Britain is buying the butter fair enough?

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Speaker 2: So if you suddenly stack costs on them, they're not

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Speaker 2: going to buy as much butter as that what you

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Speaker 2: want for the country. There's no escaping this. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying it's right or wrong, black or white, good or bad.

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Speaker 2: All I'm saying is business is business. If you produce

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Speaker 2: something for a dollar and you can sell it for

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Speaker 2: a dollar, if you want it for fifty cents, somebody

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Speaker 2: has to pay the difference. And until you can crack

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Speaker 2: that particular piece of economic magic. Things will continue the

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Speaker 2: way they are. Fourteen past.

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Speaker 1: The like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Simon Brown's got some reasonably good health numbers to update

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Speaker 2: us within a couple of moments. Seventeen past seven. Now

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Speaker 2: we're back with the polytechs and their various problems. Staff

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Speaker 2: numbers have been cut by over eight percent due to

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Speaker 2: surpluses and the Labor Government's tea put king a mess.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we still have too many staff, we find

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Speaker 2: out yesterday relative to how many students are actually enrolling now.

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Speaker 2: Penny Simmons is the Vocational Education Minister in charge of

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Speaker 2: unwinding all of this, and she's with us.

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Speaker 16: Penny morning, Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: Are you winning? Are you making some ground here? Do

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Speaker 2: you feel like you've made progress?

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Speaker 16: Absolutely, We've turned the thing around and we are making progress.

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Speaker 16: We're getting the costs down, We've made those staffing decreases

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Speaker 16: as a foot view stool to go. We've got the

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Speaker 16: legislation in the Select Committee. It'll be back by September.

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Speaker 16: Cabinets will be making decisions about which polytechnics are stood

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Speaker 16: up on one January next year. They'll be making that

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Speaker 16: decision by the end of this month, so we're well

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Speaker 16: on the way. We've got community advisors back worth each

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Speaker 16: of the polytechnics, so well on the way. And look,

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Speaker 16: those staff numbers have had to come down because at

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Speaker 16: their worst in twenty twenty two there will one academic

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Speaker 16: staff member for nine and a half students, so that's

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Speaker 16: in class average size of nine and a half students.

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Speaker 16: It's just asn't.

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Speaker 2: Viable now it does not do. We have reputational issues

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Speaker 2: in terms of enrollment. In other words, when you announce

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Speaker 2: all of this, will people flood back?

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Speaker 16: I hope so, because yes, it's done enormous damage. It's

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Speaker 16: the student numbers have gone down by eleven thousand in

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Speaker 16: the polytech sector over the Tapouk King Fiesco. So we've

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Speaker 16: got to get that confidence back. So we've got to

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Speaker 16: get the student numbers up, the right size of staff

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Speaker 16: and then will be viable. And that's the hard work

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Speaker 16: we're doing at the moment, and that's starting to happen.

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Speaker 16: In twenty twenty four, student numbers went up by two

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Speaker 16: and a half thousand, staff numbers went down and we're

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Speaker 16: starting to move the ratio in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Thank the Good Lord for that. Pennypreciate a penny simmificational

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Speaker 2: Education Minister. By the way, Mark Mitchell touched down at

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Speaker 2: three point thirty this morning New Zealand time in China.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know whether he's going to sleep or

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Speaker 2: getting up, or staying up or partying big, but he

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Speaker 2: will be with us up to eight o'clock. The reason

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Speaker 2: I mentioned China is because two thirds of New Zealand

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Speaker 2: businesses who operate in China are expecting increased revenue next year,

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Speaker 2: more than half of projecting higher profits. This is from

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Speaker 2: the New Zealand Business Roundtable and China People their Business

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Speaker 2: Outlooks survey. The sentiment of sixty companies operating in that

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Speaker 2: particular part of the world very important. Of course, we

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Speaker 2: export twenty one and a half billion worth of goods

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Speaker 2: and services and we import seventeen So do they as numbers?

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Speaker 2: You're close to forty billion dollars worth of two way trade.

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Speaker 2: But they appear, despite what you would hear about China,

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Speaker 2: they would appear to be optimistic. So we'll get that

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Speaker 2: Perhaps the most startling thing of the news yesterday that

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Speaker 2: our old mates at the state radio broadcaster have opened

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Speaker 2: be a whole different beast and milely days of broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: not like the media hasn't seen tricky days. And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the ultimate point here, isn't it. There's a

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Speaker 2: tremendous amount of coverage of the media too much, really,

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Speaker 2: and if I can be a little bit blunt, a

870
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Speaker 2: lot of the tough stuff in the industry is no

871
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: more upsetting than the dark days for any number of industries.

872
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: You can try a construction and hospital at the moment. Also,

873
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: and this applies to radio in New Zealand. If you

874
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: live in a false world, it will catch up with

875
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: you eventually. Yes, media, like a lot of industries, is changing,

876
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: but then it always has. Forty four years in accounting,

877
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: for me, I can tell your media has been in

878
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: a constant state of change, if not upheaval. It's all

879
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: I've ever known. No, it wasn't always Google or Facebook

880
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 2: nicking the ad money, but it was video or TV,

881
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: or deregulation of licenses or rubbish management. Having worked at

882
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: Morning Report myself, you've never seen such a sheltered workshop

883
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: of lavish staffing and indulgence. They enter the Radio Awards

884
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: every year and apart from not winning, the joke in

885
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Speaker 2: the industry is the number of producers they've got. Nineteen nineteen,

886
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: I think we counted as a record you series. For contrast,

887
00:42:56,080 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: this show which one wins and two has more listeners

888
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: three and that includes Glenn, which is debatable as to

889
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Speaker 2: whether we should include them at all. I wish no

890
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: one ill will. Don't get me wrong, I wish no

891
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: one ill will. I wish boon times prevailed across the

892
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: whole landscape. But equally I wish people lived in the

893
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: real world. And Willie Jackson handing out tens of millions

894
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 2: as irresponsible politics not a business plan. Willy and a

895
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: zilk as always never paid the price for this, the

896
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: poor sap who took the New Radio New Zealand job.

897
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: Will The money that pays for jobs is either earned

898
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: or it's given. If it's given, it's always on a whim,

899
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: in this case a political one. It is not their

900
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Speaker 2: fault that Willy is an idiot pasking. I had a

901
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: business Mike for Capiti twenty two years. Believe me, the

902
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: days are long gone where one could go to the

903
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: bank to discuss your business with a manager. I'm starting

904
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: up a business again. Contact to the bank had to

905
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: wait ten days to get an appointment with whoever bank

906
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: are understaff. They do not give a rats about small

907
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 2: to medium businesses. So this goes back to our conversation

908
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: an hour ago on the program Morning Mike Small business

909
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 2: spoke so much sense earlier on operated in SME for

910
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: over twenty five years of manufacturing, can get easy money

911
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: for residential housing, but keep getting decline for investing in plant.

912
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: The issue is the way they treat commercial property loans

913
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: which they expect to be repaid in ten years, and

914
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: that and impact service ability on new debt and their eyes.

915
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 2: I think what I've come to the conclusion, and once

916
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Speaker 2: again I reiterate, we will get somebody on from the

917
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Speaker 2: banks to talk about it. There are rules around the

918
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: way they handle business lending versus housing. It's a lot

919
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: easier to get money out into housing. It's harder to

920
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: get money out into business. Those are the rules, and

921
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: maybe it's the rules that need looking at, if not changing,

922
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Speaker 2: but that's for another day. Simming and Brown new Stats

923
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Speaker 2: tells us that things are slowly improving in the health

924
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Speaker 2: escape and the Health Department. Health Minister with us after

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Speaker 2: the News, which is next to News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

927
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Speaker 1: Breakfast with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way, News Talks, dB.

928
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Speaker 2: Crime Minister Landlers in China. First thing to report, of course,

929
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Speaker 2: is the seven five seven obviously made it. It was

930
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Speaker 2: Auckland to Darwin, Darwin to man Manila to China, so

931
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Speaker 2: it's it's been a haul. So anyway, they arrived at

932
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Speaker 2: three thirty mark. Mitchell's there as part of a delegation,

933
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Speaker 2: so he's going to be with a slide out of

934
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Speaker 2: China as part of politics Wednesday with Jenny Anderson after

935
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Speaker 2: eight o'clock meantime of twenty three minutes away from it?

936
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Speaker 2: Are we seeing positive movement in the old health system?

937
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Speaker 2: New numbers on the target's new numbers on our target

938
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Speaker 2: show that in cancer treatment, eighty four point six percent

939
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Speaker 2: of patients are starting treatment within thirty one days now.

940
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Speaker 2: That's up from eighty three percent. Seventy four point two

941
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Speaker 2: percent are admitted, discharged or transferred within six hours at

942
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Speaker 2: the EDS. That is up from seventy point one percent.

943
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Speaker 2: So so Meian Browns the Health Ministry of course, and

944
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Speaker 2: it's back with us. Good morning, good morning mite. Are

945
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Speaker 2: these numbers significant or just stats? I mean, what's the

946
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Speaker 2: difference in I mean what is eighty three to eighty

947
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Speaker 2: four point six mean?

948
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Speaker 7: Well, it's an improvement and these are quarter by quarter

949
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Speaker 7: data points. This show's progress. We're committed to releasing this

950
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Speaker 7: information every three months so that the public can see

951
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 7: how well our health system is performing. But ultimately there

952
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 7: is a long way to go. We want ninety five

953
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Speaker 7: percent of patients being seen an emergency department within six hours,

954
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Speaker 7: so there is a long way to go. We want

955
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Speaker 7: ninety five percent of cancer tre cancer patients being seen

956
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Speaker 7: within within thirty one days as well, So there's still

957
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Speaker 7: work to do, but we're seeing progress in the right

958
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Speaker 7: direction and I'm going to continue that focus as Minister

959
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Speaker 7: of Health.

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Speaker 2: So on cancer have you're seeing a one and a

961
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Speaker 2: half percent improvement per quarter, that is six per year,

962
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Speaker 2: so you're a few years off.

963
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Speaker 7: Well, the targets are to meet that by twenty thirty.

964
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Speaker 7: We had a significant reduction over the last six years.

965
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Speaker 7: The health system is turning these around. Will take time,

966
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Speaker 7: but the reality is my expectations is that Health New

967
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Speaker 7: Zealand does need to move faster on these That's why

968
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Speaker 7: we're doing the elective boost at the moment, which is

969
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Speaker 7: outsourcing electives to the private sector at pace. We've done

970
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Speaker 7: nine and a half thousand so far, because actually we

971
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Speaker 7: can't wait till then. We have to be impatient and

972
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Speaker 7: we have to focus on putting patients first and doing

973
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Speaker 7: everything we can to get these treatments done.

974
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Speaker 2: We covered that on the program the other day. Are

975
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Speaker 2: you surprised about the angst around the private sector?

976
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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Look, there's lots of noise from the unions, the Labor Party,

978
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Speaker 7: various voices and other media. Of course, who just oppose

979
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Speaker 7: anything which is about actually getting things done for patients.

980
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Speaker 7: I don't think a patient key is when they're sitting

981
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Speaker 7: on the operating table and looking up at the ceiling

982
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Speaker 7: and going, oh my goodness, who owns the roof? They're

983
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Speaker 7: focused on getting their treatment done. And that is my

984
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Speaker 7: focus as Minister of Health is getting the treatments done

985
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Speaker 7: that patients need and I will continue to have that

986
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Speaker 7: focus as Minister of Health.

987
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Speaker 2: The point they make that I think is fair. It

988
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Speaker 2: deprives surgical registrars of training, which is true, isn't it Yep?

989
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Speaker 7: I think that's a fair point. And that's where of

990
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Speaker 7: asked howth New Zealand to work and have long term

991
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Speaker 7: agreements with these with these private hospitals and actually look

992
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 7: at including training opportunities in those agreements. When we do outsource,

993
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 7: we do need to make sure it's beneficial to both

994
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 7: public and private. We need to make sure that people

995
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Speaker 7: are getting seen quickly, but we also do need to

996
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 7: make sure we are retaining those training opportunities for the

997
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Speaker 7: next generation of surgeons and specialists. That is critically important

998
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 7: in our vast Health New Zealand to make sure that's

999
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Speaker 7: included as part.

1000
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: Do you have any reason to believe that the private

1001
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: sector wouldn't be interested in doing that.

1002
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Speaker 7: All the feedback from the operators that I've spoken to

1003
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Speaker 7: is that they have interest in that. There are negotiations

1004
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Speaker 7: underway between Health New Zealand and those operators around those points.

1005
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 7: Obviously a lot of detailed work through, but look at

1006
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Speaker 7: the end of the day, it's putting patients at the

1007
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Speaker 7: center to get things done.

1008
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Speaker 2: Now, also reading yesterday the Royal College Australasian College of

1009
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: Surgeons and they're not alone, but they argue, and I've

1010
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Speaker 2: not been able to get to the bottom of it either.

1011
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: They argue it is actually more expensive to do it

1012
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: privately than it is publicly, and what the public system

1013
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: needs is more funding. How do they square that circle

1014
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 2: or are they simply making.

1015
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Speaker 7: Well, we need to be investing both in you know,

1016
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Speaker 7: we need to invest ultimately in putting patients at the

1017
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Speaker 7: center and going we need things to get done. Look,

1018
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Speaker 7: the majority, the vast majority of elective surgeries happen in

1019
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Speaker 7: the public system. Around ten percent happened in the private system.

1020
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Speaker 7: But this is about ensuring we can get surgeries done

1021
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Speaker 7: in a timely manner, and that will require outsourcing. It's

1022
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Speaker 7: always happened. In fact, Chris Hipkins, when he was Minister

1023
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 7: of Health back in twenty twenty, took a paper to

1024
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Speaker 7: cabinet saying we need to use more of the private

1025
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Speaker 7: system to get more done. So here they are opposing

1026
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Speaker 7: what we're doing today when he took a paper up

1027
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Speaker 7: to cabinet in twenty twenty.

1028
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Speaker 2: So that's why I can't understand why everyone's objecting to it.

1029
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,840
Speaker 2: So would you argue because we had a private surgeon

1030
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 2: on the other day who said it's cheaper to do

1031
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: in the private sector, do you have a clear answer,

1032
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: is it cheaper to do in the private sector that

1033
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: it is in the public sector.

1034
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Speaker 7: It will depend in different parts of the country for

1035
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 7: different surgeries ultimately, but the point here is if you

1036
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Speaker 7: have long term agreements, you're able to get efficiencies, and

1037
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Speaker 7: that's where you're able to drive at the moment, Health

1038
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 7: New Zealand or in the past, has done ad hoc

1039
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 7: arrangements where they do short term agreements. Of course going

1040
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Speaker 7: to be more expensive if that's the approach you do it.

1041
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Speaker 7: If you take a long term approach, you can get efficiencies, better,

1042
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Speaker 7: better value for money and ultimately better care for patients,

1043
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Speaker 7: which is my focus.

1044
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: The other thing he said I thought was interesting and

1045
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: I didn't know about is he claims if things look

1046
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 2: like they might be going past four o'clock, it starts

1047
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: to close down a bit. Is that true.

1048
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 7: Well, look, there is heavily unionized contractoral arrange arrangements in

1049
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 7: the public system, and so yes, you do end up

1050
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 7: with in efficiencies throughout the system, and that those issues

1051
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Speaker 7: need to be dealt with by Health New Zealand to

1052
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 7: make sure that it is more efficient. But that's where again,

1053
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 7: using the public system and the private system and putting

1054
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Speaker 7: patients at the center is the answer.

1055
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Speaker 2: But how do you get around it? First of all,

1056
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Speaker 2: why does it even exist? I mean to say, oh,

1057
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: this is going to go to past four o'clock.

1058
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Speaker 7: Let's today those questions, Yeah, I mean I suggest you

1059
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Speaker 7: put those questions to the to the Senior Doctors Union

1060
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 7: when they when they're next on your show, because ultimately

1061
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 7: these are these are union agreement which have been negotiated

1062
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 7: over a long period of time, which drive inefficiency and

1063
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 7: a lack of productivity.

1064
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: With Health New Zealand.

1065
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 7: Though with Health New Zealand, I agree, and these are

1066
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 7: issues that do need to be resolved as part of

1067
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 7: those negotiations with the unions. But this is these are

1068
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 7: not issues that are going to be resolved overnight. Therefore,

1069
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 7: we have to focus on putting patients first. We have

1070
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,239
Speaker 7: massive weightlifts we need to get through. And that's where

1071
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 7: I make no apology, no apology for using the private

1072
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 7: sector to get patient seen.

1073
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Speaker 2: All right, appreciate your times always, Health Minister sim And Brown.

1074
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Speaker 2: It is this pointing to find out that's true. Seventeen

1075
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Speaker 2: minutes away from eight tasking Bay of Islands. Now, this

1076
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 2: is another one of these moderately complicated things that you

1077
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 2: can understand to a degree why it's happening, but then

1078
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: again you disagree with the other reasons. So the Bay

1079
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: of Blans cruise season, so this all goes to tourism, right,

1080
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: we want more tourists. Yes, we're spending more money getting

1081
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 2: more tourists back. Yes, we haven't got back to where

1082
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 2: we were in COVID.

1083
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Speaker 12: No.

1084
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 2: So one of the things that's happening is the cruising system.

1085
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 2: Now the cruising system is not the way it was.

1086
00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: And I'm reading this morning the Bay of Islands one

1087
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: of the most beautiful parts of the country, whether you're

1088
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: on a cruise ship or not. Next year the number

1089
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: of ships coming is almost harped. Why well, costs yet again,

1090
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: more costs, central government costs, port costs, regional authority costs.

1091
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: You've got a biofouling rule, which I can understand. So

1092
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: they've got a you know, they've got to tart their

1093
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: act up a bit, so I understand that part. But

1094
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 2: last season ninety two cruise ships, this year forty seven.

1095
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: So how do you rebuild a tourism industry when you

1096
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: get those sort of numbers?

1097
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 18: Sixteen too the My Costing Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1098
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 18: powered by News Talks at be Jews.

1099
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Speaker 2: I'm just looking through the trying to find a text

1100
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 2: but I can't find It'll come back to it. Primate

1101
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: is going to pay rise in Australia. Let me give

1102
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 2: you the Liverpool cities actually first, before I talk about Albanese.

1103
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 2: It's just fascinated with lux and flu. As I told

1104
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: you on that seven five seven, I don't think I'm

1105
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: breaking confidence and saying Luxean was telling me the other

1106
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: day about Albanesi's planes. Planes. He's got three and they're

1107
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: what you would be calling sort of YEA seven three

1108
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 2: sevens your A three twenty, something like that, the stuff

1109
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: that flies from Auckland to christ Church, Auckland to Wellington,

1110
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 2: those sort of planes. And they got TVs on board

1111
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: and showers and Life flat beds and stuff like that.

1112
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: So he whip around Australia and those. If you're going

1113
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: somewhere further Afiel, he's got another plane. He's got a

1114
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: fourth plane, which is an A three fifty. Now the

1115
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: A three fifty is something you'd probably get on flying

1116
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 2: Singapore Airlines from Auckland to Singapore. So it's a big

1117
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: plane and they've got Life flat beds and they can

1118
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: watch the NRL live as they jet their way around

1119
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 2: the World's got full catering, drinks, food and all that

1120
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. Meantime, we in this country have, of

1121
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: course these seven five seven, which is pieced together with

1122
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: no duct tape and some glue and has to fly

1123
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: from literally to get to China. If you go to

1124
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: Auckland Airport and you book a ticket on a commercial airline,

1125
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: you can get from Auckland to China in one go.

1126
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: But when we fly our plane, it goes from Auckland

1127
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: to Darwin, Darwen to Manilla, Manila to China. That's a

1128
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: bit work'd be so dismissive.

1129
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 11: It's a fine example of our.

1130
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 2: Number eight ingenuity. There's that randinga anyway, so elbans you

1131
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: get to pay rise. He's now on six hundred and

1132
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: twenty two thousand dollars. Now is that a lot of money?

1133
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: Of course, it's a lot of money, But then again

1134
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: he's running a country. Trump gets six hundred and seventeen.

1135
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: But then my point being, it's the stuff that surrounds it,

1136
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 2: isn't it. So Trump's not really worried about food or

1137
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: dry cleaning, or security or transport or anything. So, in

1138
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 2: other words, the six hundred and seventeen one thousand dollars

1139
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 2: is irrelevant because everything's paid for. Singapore's prominence then gets

1140
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: paid two and a half million. If you run Hong

1141
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: Kong you get one point one million the Swiss president

1142
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 2: gets eight hundred and seventy seven thousand dollars. Carney in

1143
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: Canada for seventy seven lux and for seventy four, so

1144
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 2: four seventy four he doesn't even get paid that well,

1145
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 2: and he's got a crack plane. See Starmer gets three

1146
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 2: sixty five, so even less than lux and you go

1147
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: wild on he's running all of Britain sixty six million people.

1148
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 2: But then again he's got a plane. Hasn't he got

1149
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: a proper plane? So it's really fancy glasses too. It's

1150
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: the stuff that goes with the job, not what you weren't.

1151
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 2: You can Luxon to be happier if he earned less

1152
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: but got a better play. I reckon he would. I

1153
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: reckon Luxon would work for free if he had a

1154
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: proper plane and could go places. Is my guess on

1155
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 2: that ten minutes away from.

1156
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: Me the Mic Hosking breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities

1157
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: News togs had been.

1158
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: Given away from it as the Super Rugby can't comes

1159
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: to a conclusion. This weekend we get the news that

1160
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: Ardie sarv is not going to be around next year

1161
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 2: for Mowana Pacifica because he's off to Japan again on

1162
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,320
Speaker 2: a sabbatical. Now, Debbie Sorenson's the Mawana Pacific a CEO

1163
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 2: and is with us.

1164
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning here mate.

1165
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 2: Is this a shock or has it been coming?

1166
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 19: Oh no, it's not a shock at all. It's a

1167
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 19: normal part of professional players' careers. And you know, we

1168
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 19: are very lucky with the gift of Ardi in this

1169
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 19: last season and so for him to go away for

1170
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 19: a sabbatical and really you know, recharges batteries. We're looking

1171
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 19: forward to him returning.

1172
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 2: Was everybody on the same page, all the players, all

1173
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 2: the management or the organization.

1174
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 19: Indeed we are. We've just had the most miraculous season

1175
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 19: this year, given that it's our fourth year running, and

1176
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 19: to do so well and to beat all the major

1177
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 19: you know, New Zealand clubs has really been exciting for us.

1178
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 19: So what we've seen this year is we've seen real

1179
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 19: potential in real hope and we know that we can

1180
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 19: make finals footy. It's just a matter of when.

1181
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: Did you say something to Ardie like what you just

1182
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: told me, and how wonderful it's been. Wouldn't he like

1183
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 2: to hang around a bit longer and you know, take

1184
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: it to the next level.

1185
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 19: What I've said to Ardie is thank you for what

1186
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,399
Speaker 19: you've done for us this year, and we've appreciated all

1187
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 19: of that that we wish him well for next year.

1188
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 19: Certainly if he changed his mind and wanted to stay,

1189
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 19: we'd be delighted. But you know, I think it's a

1190
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 19: big thing to support your players in their career and

1191
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 19: what they need to do to you know, carry on,

1192
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 19: and so this is a key part of Ardie's game,

1193
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 19: end of his career. So we wish him well next year.

1194
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 19: And having that relationship with Japan is a good thing

1195
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 19: for us. You know, it's good for Super Rugby Club

1196
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 19: to have a relationship with Japan and that's what we're

1197
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 19: able to build on with him going there this next season.

1198
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: Is it unfortunate to the extent that he's made in

1199
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: a team game, he's made an outsized contribution, hasn't he.

1200
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been brilliant.

1201
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 19: He has been brilliant. And there's two things I'd say

1202
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 19: about that. He has played what I would consider the

1203
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 19: best rugby of his life playing for us, and a

1204
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 19: lot of that is that he's just enjoyed it and

1205
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 19: it's his whole authentic self. You know, he can bring

1206
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 19: his whole self to the club and be who he is.

1207
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 19: But what he's done is he's lifted the whole club,

1208
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 19: like he's lifted the squad, who you know, understand what

1209
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 19: it looks like if they can see what it looks

1210
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 19: like to be a professional player. And also the club

1211
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 19: and the fans. You know, we've had the most incredible

1212
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 19: turnout from our fans this year, and you know we're

1213
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 19: filling that and Ath how the fat him without much

1214
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 19: of a problem. So I think it might look inordinate,

1215
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 19: but actually there's a lot of things that go together

1216
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 19: to make it work really well. And Addie has worked

1217
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 19: quite hard to make sure that he's not the single outlier.

1218
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 19: He's worked hard to bring the squad together. He's done

1219
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 19: lots of mentoring of the leaders. He's just been amazing.

1220
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: Dirdy has Debbie preciated DeBie Sorenson, who's the one specific CEO. Mike,

1221
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: do you realize the same doctors working on the private

1222
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 2: sector and the public sector? Same doctor? Yes, I do

1223
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: realize that. I don't know what the big dealer is.

1224
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: Mike cacc has been contracting surgery to private facilities for

1225
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: years exactly. Mike, last week I had to take my

1226
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: son from Westport to christ Church for a standard tooth extraction.

1227
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 2: Westport Coast health is almost non existent. Michael, it's an

1228
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 2: interesting insight you give. Dentistry shouldn't really be part of

1229
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: the public health system in my humble opinion, and dentistry

1230
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: is a major problem within the public health system because

1231
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,120
Speaker 2: we're short of dentists at the best of time, and

1232
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 2: very few of them actually worked for the public health

1233
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: system at all. So there's that line as to what

1234
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: you expect from the public versus But Mike, it's the

1235
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 2: A lot of you saying this, theater nurses and anesthetic

1236
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: technicians that shut theaters down. The reason is that the

1237
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: hospitals will not pay any overtime news for you. In

1238
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 2: a couple of moments, Scrutiny Week, How's that gone? A

1239
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 2: Ginny Anderson, Mark Mitchell Politics Wednesday After the News? Which

1240
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: is next?

1241
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: Mike Hasky instateful, engaging and vitally the Mic Hosking Breakfast

1242
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: with the Defender, Doctor the most powerful Defender ever made?

1243
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: And news togs dead be.

1244
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 15: Come on, Jie, come on, Chrystler, let's roll again. Built

1245
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 15: something years people, me.

1246
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 2: Build us the same way.

1247
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 5: Rust.

1248
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: He's not bad. He's still going. He's still angry. Neil

1249
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: Young obviously, and the Chrome Hearts. The Chrome Hearts are

1250
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: a new band. He announced that last year. Although the

1251
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 2: new band has made up of people who's played with before.

1252
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: I don't be him to taking any risks these days.

1253
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: They're from a band called Promise of the Real, the

1254
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 2: band led by Lucas Nelson Nelson, Yes, and Willie's son.

1255
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: They back Young on several albums and tours. There's a

1256
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: song called Dark Mirage apparently, which is a grungy companion

1257
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: piece that lends credence to rumors that Young and his

1258
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 2: daughter had a severe falling out after he divorced his

1259
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: second wife and her mother in twenty fourteen so he

1260
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: could marry Daryl Hannah. I don't know whether any of

1261
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: that's true, but I thought i'd dropped that in for funzies.

1262
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 2: But we've got ten glorious tracks and they last thirty

1263
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,479
Speaker 2: seven let's call it thirty eight minutes, thirty seven minutes

1264
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: and fifty six seven. Now. Mark Mitchell is with us

1265
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 2: long a jimiy Anderson, Good morning to both of you two.

1266
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 3: Both. Good morning morning, Chiley, Good morning.

1267
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 2: My god, never learned to speak English here? How is Mark?

1268
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: First of all, thank you for getting up because quarter

1269
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: past four in the morning, or did you not go

1270
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 2: to bed?

1271
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 20: I didn't really go to bed because we got by

1272
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 20: the time we arrived at midnight. Then by the time

1273
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 20: we sort of got sworded into the hotel, so I

1274
01:00:58,880 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 20: had some reading to do.

1275
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: So of course you know that I loyally try to

1276
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: be on the show.

1277
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 20: I found out an experience when we had cyclone Gabriel,

1278
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 20: how the listeners on the show turn up and when

1279
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 20: I was over there.

1280
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, we don't.

1281
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 20: Talk about this often, but the amount of messages that

1282
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 20: came through and that makes it that made a huge

1283
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 20: difference for the people on the ground, so people bothered

1284
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 20: tuning to us. I just make the effort and I

1285
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 20: think that that I want to turn up for the show.

1286
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 2: Good on you take us through the journey. Was it

1287
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: three or four days to get from Auckland to China?

1288
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 20: It probably felt like four, but that was too The

1289
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 20: journey was outstanding. Our New Zealand Defense Force person now

1290
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 20: particularly Air Force, and the way they operate the seven

1291
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 20: five to seven there was flawless. We had to stop

1292
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 20: in Ken's a refuel and then to stop in Singapore

1293
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 20: and then through to Shanghai.

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Speaker 3: So no, it's been through. It's been a good trip,

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Speaker 3: Isn't it funny?

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Speaker 2: Because I was talking to him blux and about that

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Speaker 2: the other day. He had you stopping in Darwin and Manila.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that you stopped in Ken's and Singer

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Speaker 2: poor indicates for a man who ran an airline, I'm

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Speaker 2: just thinking to myself, jeez, well.

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Speaker 20: No, he's I mean, he's completely depend on the advice

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Speaker 20: that he gets from Defense and they will take the best,

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Speaker 20: most efficient route to sort of give us here. But

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Speaker 20: ultimately those are operational decisions for them, and that's the

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Speaker 20: way that we came was and it was it was good.

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Speaker 20: I mean, you know, huge respect to our delegation and

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Speaker 20: our keywis that come on these things. We don't have

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Speaker 20: the most modern technologies, maybe not the most comfortable flight

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Speaker 20: of the world, but our youthful people are outstanding, and

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Speaker 20: we've got an incredibly strong business delegation up here that

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Speaker 20: it's an interest sise of the country.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, just move. I know you're on a bonafhone mark,

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Speaker 2: so just move, because that's I think your prepay might

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Speaker 2: be might be, Jenny. As far as scrutiny weeks concerned,

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Speaker 2: let me come back to yesterday and and your two

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Speaker 2: potty mouth colleagues. Is that what's happening? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: mean what happened there? Do you know?

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Speaker 21: No, I don't think that's an accurate reflection of what

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Speaker 21: actually happens in scrutiny week. So I've had seven ministers

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Speaker 21: so far, and we've been working really long hours to

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Speaker 21: be able to drill into parts of the budget and

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Speaker 21: ask questions to understand where money's being spent and where

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Speaker 21: directions going.

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Speaker 2: Is it de scended in your view? Because I remember

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Speaker 2: you came on this probram was it one or two?

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Speaker 2: How long scrutiny? Is this a second year or third year?

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Speaker 21: I think it's the third year, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because the first year I remember you were quite bullish

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Speaker 2: about it and it was interesting and it was a

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Speaker 2: bit different. And I just wondered if, as I watched

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Speaker 2: Web and Russell yesterday and the swearing and stuff, whether

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Speaker 2: it's got a bit acrimonious because the fun factor has

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Speaker 2: gone and now you're just backing into hating each other.

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Speaker 21: Well, remember we always do this. There's two cycles in

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Speaker 21: the budget where we're analyzing it. So there's just longer

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Speaker 21: periods of time and dedicated in a week. So it's

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Speaker 21: still the same process that what politicians have always done.

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Speaker 21: Ministers front up and answer questions about the budget. So

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Speaker 21: it just means that there should be by standing orders

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Speaker 21: longer period it's a time when ministers are being questioned

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Speaker 21: through scrutin your week, and some have changed. So we're

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Speaker 21: still debating that because some have cut their times right

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Speaker 21: back just to fifteen minutes and that's not what our

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Speaker 21: standing orders specified for ministers.

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Speaker 2: Is it still fruitful?

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Speaker 21: I think so, Like you get to talk to things

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Speaker 21: like I talked with Mark about police performance measures and

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Speaker 21: how they've been lowered. He denies that they have been

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Speaker 21: and I debate that it's pretty clear from the budget

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Speaker 21: that they have been lowered. So you get to talk

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Speaker 21: about parts of the budget that are quite drilling down

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Speaker 21: into detail that otherwise you wouldn't have that opportunity to

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Speaker 21: talk about.

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Speaker 20: Well, I had six hours of hearings on Monday and

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Speaker 20: they only need twenty minutes.

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Speaker 3: It's very weak. They don't come very well prepared.

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Speaker 20: The questions aren't very good, so you know, probably twenty

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Speaker 20: minutes is all you need in reality.

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Speaker 3: But we go them.

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Speaker 20: I gave them an hour and a half an hour,

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Speaker 20: half an hour, half and a a half an hour

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Speaker 20: and half an hour on my.

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Speaker 3: You know, scrutiny hearings.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Indigenous people is the official title of which you

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Speaker 2: you are in China? What literally are you doing? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Bernapine's completely run out of breath. Break more in a

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Speaker 2: moment thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio. How

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Speaker 1: it by News Talks.

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Speaker 12: It be.

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Speaker 2: News Talks will be sixteen past eight Politics Wednesday, Mark

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Speaker 2: and Ginny, we'll try it one more time. Make Indigenous

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Speaker 2: people what specifically you're going to be doing.

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 20: Firstly on back because Glenn and Sam shows some true

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Speaker 20: key in to do it and sits stand on one

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Speaker 20: league and hold onto a coating.

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Speaker 3: So hopefully, hopefully that's going to work. So Indigenous people,

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Speaker 3: can you ask questions again?

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Speaker 2: That's your capacity in which you are in China? What

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Speaker 2: is it you're doing there?

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Speaker 3: And are you we doing you well?

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Speaker 20: We've got a very powerful business delegation here, so we're

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Speaker 20: going to be dealing with a whole lot of things.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, trade.

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Speaker 20: Help, food, education, it we've got We've got our Kappahr

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Speaker 20: group here that won Martini that part of the So

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Speaker 20: it's just we're only best's for years of we're here

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Speaker 20: selling New Zealand. We're out here solidifying that trading relationship

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Speaker 20: with China, which is critically important for us as a country,

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Speaker 20: especially the time and you see the out of instability

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Speaker 20: around the world.

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Speaker 2: How do you dump tail them? And your Bona fine

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Speaker 2: is a very good example of this. The relationship we

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Speaker 2: have with China is a complex one. You're on a

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Speaker 2: Berna fine for obvious reasons, and yet you want to

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Speaker 2: do more and more business with China, isn't it strange?

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Speaker 3: Well, only you just you highlight it.

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Speaker 20: We live in a complex world and there's there's some

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Speaker 20: things that countries do that we don't agree with, as

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Speaker 20: kiwis and New Zealand's we highlight that those but there's

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Speaker 20: also really important with parts of the relationship that we

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Speaker 20: want to foster and strength and do. And obviously our

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Speaker 20: trading relationship with China has been with us for a

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Speaker 20: long long time. We have a free trade agreement with us.

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Speaker 20: They're a big part of what we do and a

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Speaker 20: big part of support in our economy, and so you

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Speaker 20: know we've got to maintain those relationships.

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Speaker 2: Ginny, did you hear Simmy and Brown earlier?

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Speaker 21: I had parts of it.

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Speaker 2: What is your I just cannot get to the bottom

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Speaker 2: of it. What's you? And this was Asha Verial yesterday.

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Speaker 2: What's your fundamental problem? If they can get the registrar

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Speaker 2: thing in a contract with a private operator and also

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Speaker 2: do more operations, what's wrong with that?

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Speaker 21: Because there's not two workforces. There's not a magic private

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Speaker 21: workforce and a public workforce. There's one workforce. So you

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Speaker 21: don't get extra work. You just take things into private.

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Speaker 21: Private still cops costs more, and it leaves all the

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Speaker 21: complex more surgeries in the public system. After he is

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Speaker 21: still in the public system, and it will send the

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Speaker 21: workforce with those longer contracts he's putting in place, the

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Speaker 21: workforce will go into private. So as you really picked

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Speaker 21: out trainee doctors can't get those hours up. Yeah, but

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Speaker 21: if they fix that, but the chronic problem is workforce shortages,

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Speaker 21: and so there's still the same number of doctors here.

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Speaker 2: But find okay in most doctors though, Jenny work in

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Speaker 2: public and private. So Mike the surgeon works a bit

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Speaker 2: in public and a bit private. When I go to private,

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Speaker 2: if I end up doing some of the public work,

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Speaker 2: what does it matter? And for for the for the record,

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Speaker 2: the surgeon we had on the other day said is

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Speaker 2: actually cheaper anyway. So be that as it may. If

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Speaker 2: you utilize me and my skills more often, that's good,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 21: Well, that's good in the short term, and it has

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Speaker 21: we've we've worked as well to do some of those short,

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Speaker 21: quick and easy surgeries in the in the private system.

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Speaker 21: But long term of a ten year contracts, it doesn't

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Speaker 21: fix the problem that there's a chronic underfunding and there's

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Speaker 21: a workforce shortage. We don't have more doctors. We just

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Speaker 21: have doctors doing short, quicker surgeries in the public. So

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Speaker 21: the underlying problems aren't being addressed by doing.

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Speaker 3: It labored in the story doesn't like the private sector, doesn't.

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Speaker 21: You always say that you don't even know it's true.

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Speaker 3: It's true. Well, you're fighting against the private set to

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Speaker 3: step in in. I didn't say that.

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Speaker 21: I just said that we used it as well.

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Speaker 3: I just said that we used it as well, so

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Speaker 3: we support that we're going to do that.

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Speaker 20: The last time we're in government, Mike, we started reducing

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Speaker 20: waiting lists of waiting times because we partner between public

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Speaker 20: and private, and we're going to do the same thing again.

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Speaker 2: So you can't argue Ginny when you when you do

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Speaker 2: nine thousand and something more elective surgeries. Those people who

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Speaker 2: got those surgeries are happy punters and they got a

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Speaker 2: better service, and they'll they'll they'll they'll back that vote

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Speaker 2: for that, won't they.

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Speaker 21: I completely agree, But it does not fix the problem.

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Speaker 21: We need more doctors across vote. It's the same doctor.

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Speaker 21: It's the same doctor because it gives you short term gains,

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Speaker 21: but over a longer period of time when you need

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Speaker 21: to please finish because it leaves the more complex surgeries

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Speaker 21: and the public system. It leaves after here in the

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Speaker 21: public system, and those things aren't being fixed. It's a

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Speaker 21: short term fix that's great, yes, But as a long

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Speaker 21: term solution for the underfunding, more.

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Speaker 2: Doctors, more doctors, that's a separate issue, isn't it. That's

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Speaker 2: opening up places in med school and bringing in people

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Speaker 2: from offshore and stuff like that. That's a completely separate

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Speaker 2: thing completely.

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Speaker 21: But these Mike's the same doctor and public and private

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Speaker 21: and Mike can only do.

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Speaker 3: It's got planned for that and he's working on that.

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Speaker 20: And listen to last time, last time we were in government,

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Speaker 20: we started reducing the massive wit list that we had

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Speaker 20: under the previous labor government and elective surgeries.

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Speaker 3: Again that done.

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Speaker 20: We're setting targets and we're doing the same thing again.

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Speaker 20: I just think that's a blind ideology so that the

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Speaker 20: private sector doesn't have a roll.

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Speaker 2: It's one for the election campaign. I suspect, Mark, what

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Speaker 2: time are you? What's your first appointment today?

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Speaker 20: My first appointment is at quarter past six this morning,

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Speaker 20: and I'm meeting with the visit. Yeah, and we're going

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Speaker 20: to I'm meeting with the Business delegation. So that we start,

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01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 20: we get organized, we know what we want to achieve,

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Speaker 20: and we and we plan out the day because the

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Speaker 20: Prime Minister will be doing he'll be popping in and

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Speaker 20: out with the Business Delegation, but he's got other things

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Speaker 20: that he'll be off doing as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, you go, well to you too. We'll catch

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Speaker 2: up next week. Appreciate it very much. Mike Mitchell and

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Speaker 2: Jinny Anderson Politics Wednesday for this Wednesday Morning, eight twenty two.

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Speaker 2: boils down to, at the end of the day, no

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Speaker 2: coverage in this country for fairly obvious reasons. But the

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01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: big thing yesterday in Australia with Trump leaving the G

1522
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 2: seven early was the Elbow meeting was off. Just like that,

1523
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: it was off. And you cannot underestimate the amount of

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 2: angst and coverage that went into that meeting over a

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01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: period of months, pretty much since Trump arrived. It started

1526
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: to get embarrassing for Elbow in the sense that a

1527
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: lot of leaders have wandered through the White House and

1528
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 2: sat on those yellow chairs, except Elbow hasn't. And Australia

1529
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 2: is one of America's biggest trading partners, it's one of

1530
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 2: the Five Eyes countries, it's part of haucas and yet

1531
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,679
Speaker 2: still Elbanezi had not been invited to the White House,

1532
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:44,839
Speaker 2: and so that started to get embarrassing. The broad sense

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01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: was not that they ever admitted it, that Elbow's a

1534
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: bit pro Chinese for the American view of things. So

1535
01:12:53,040 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: finally they got this thing sorted out at the G

1536
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 2: seven and then of course all hell broke loose in

1537
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 2: terms of wars and China and the Middle least in

1538
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: Iran and whose side everybody was on, and then the

1539
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: steel and tariffs, and so it was going to be

1540
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 2: this awkward tightrope, and they built it up and built

1541
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: it up and built it up and built it up,

1542
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: and it was the most quote unquote the most important

1543
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: meeting of Albanese's life. So onto the three point fifty

1544
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: he gets to fly to Canada Lands and Trump goes

1545
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 2: gotta go by and that was the end of that.

1546
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: So the question question is when does Elbow get to

1547
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 2: meet Trump? So we'll talk to us Steve Price about

1548
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 2: that in the next couple of moments, after the news,

1549
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: which is next the rebused.

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01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: Talks event, news, opinion and everything in between. The Mike

1551
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: Hosking bread best with Bailey's real estate doing real estate

1552
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: differently since nineteen seventy three news talks had been.

1553
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 2: So here's where it gets a little bit tricky on

1554
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: what happens next in the Middle East. Toulsey Gabett, who's

1555
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 2: the National Intelligence Director, and she was selected to be

1556
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:10,639
Speaker 2: the National Intelligence Director broadly speaking because she's skeptical about

1557
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: US interventions in the Middle East. They've seen it all before,

1558
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 2: and we're sort of make America great again is really

1559
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 2: about doing stuff at home domestically. So she's in front

1560
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: of a Congressional committee and she goes, we continue to

1561
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 2: assess that Iran is not building a nuclear weapon, and

1562
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 2: the Supreme Leader has not authorized in the nuclear weapons

1563
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 2: program that he's suspended back in two thousand and three. This,

1564
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: of course, doesn't play well for Israel or indeed Trump,

1565
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,879
Speaker 2: who seems to have jumped on board the Israel bandwagon

1566
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 2: with alacrity this morning, to which Trump says, I don't

1567
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 2: care what she said. I think they were very close

1568
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 2: to having won.

1569
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:46,719
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to argue with that kind of logic.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what she said.

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01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:52,360
Speaker 7: And you wonder what when he is calling for a

1572
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 7: complete give up, don't forget.

1573
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: I wonder how wars start? Twenty two minutes away from.

1574
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 5: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance the peace

1575
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 5: of mind for New Zealand business in.

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01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 2: Australia to see price, good morning morning. Did you feel

1577
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: sorry for him? Did you laugh? I mean, how bad

1578
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,720
Speaker 2: does it get?

1579
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 12: I think my initial reaction was I'm not surprised, but

1580
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 12: for Anthony Albanezi it is a major embarrassment. Now, all

1581
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 12: that being said, Donald Trump needed to get out of

1582
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,839
Speaker 12: Canada go back to Washington. You were just speaking about

1583
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 12: what he does next, and none of us really know,

1584
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 12: So you can't blame Anthony Albanize the fact that Donald

1585
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 12: Trump is unpredictable. That being said, the only reason Anthony

1586
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,840
Speaker 12: Alberze he really went to Canada as a guest on

1587
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 12: the sidelines of the G seven was to sit down

1588
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 12: for the first time since Trump was reelected last November

1589
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 12: and talk about probably two things August the submarine deal

1590
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 12: and tariffs, which include aluminum, steel and book So he

1591
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 12: doesn't get to see him. I mean, I was trying

1592
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 12: to think of a way, a way to compare this,

1593
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 12: and I thought of Mike Hosking inviting me to an

1594
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 12: exclusive dinner at the best restaurant in Auckland. And I

1595
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 12: turn up there and I'm told, no, Mike's found something

1596
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 12: better to do. He's gone to the place down the road,

1597
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 12: and you're here on your own with he also rabbits,

1598
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 12: which is really what happened to Alboi's ended up in

1599
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 12: Calgary with all the other leaders who were on the sidelines,

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01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 12: not part of the G seven now the G six,

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01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 12: and so no discussions happened. He's had three phone calls

1602
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 12: only since Trump was elected. But the most embarrassing thing

1603
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,639
Speaker 12: I think was he was holding a media conference yesterday

1604
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 12: morning in our time in Calgary and talking about how

1605
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 12: the meeting was going to go and how important it was.

1606
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 12: It was crucial for Australia and he was going to

1607
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 12: negotiate hard and firmly with Donald Trump. We walked out

1608
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 12: of that media conference and his staff found out by

1609
01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 12: their mobile phones on either Twitter or truth social that

1610
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 12: the president's media advisor had said that Donald Trump's going

1611
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 12: back to Washington. He wouldn't be there on the day

1612
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 12: they thought they were going to have the meeting, so

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 12: no one even rang them, which is the worst part

1614
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 12: of the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: It's unreal I it's I mean, look, it happened, that's like.

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01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: But having said that, given Trump doesn't stay for these things,

1617
01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: and it was, you could argue entirely predictable. He wasn't

1618
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: there for the whole length of it to get a

1619
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: meeting organized into the event that he was probably not

1620
01:17:24,600 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 2: going to be at You could go back and go

1621
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 2: why do we agree to that? Couldn't you?

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01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 15: Yes, you could.

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Speaker 12: I mean, in hindsight's a wonderful thing what they should

1624
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 12: be doing. And you know, I have no confidence in

1625
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 12: our I'll make Kevin Rudd as the ambassador. I mean,

1626
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,759
Speaker 12: you can lay some of the blame at his feet here.

1627
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 12: The only meeting you should organize with Donald Trump's probably

1628
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 12: at mar Lago, playing goal exactly, and you know he'll

1629
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 12: turn up. Well, why did any think he was going

1630
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 12: to hang around in Canada?

1631
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 2: It's funny, I was, I was before the news and

1632
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: building up to this. It's and correct me if I'm wrong.

1633
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 2: But obviously this has got no coverage here, but in

1634
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: Australia this has been built up in a way that

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01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm not I mean, this was a big, big, big deal,

1636
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 2: wasn't it huge?

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Speaker 12: And Anthony Albaneze was banking on this, showing the Australian

1638
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 12: population that it was a good thing that he was

1639
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 12: re elected. He could play on the world stage and

1640
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 12: Donald Trump had some respect for him. And you've got

1641
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 12: to remember there was a question asked of Trump at

1642
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 12: the end of the election campaign about Australia and Australian Politics.

1643
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 12: He said he didn't have a clue who Peter Dutton was,

1644
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:33,719
Speaker 12: but he thought Antony Albaniz he was a nice blow.

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Chalmers. Today, what's he got to say?

1646
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: Now?

1647
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 12: He's going to go to the press club and use

1648
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 12: a major speech to declare that economic reform is needed.

1649
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,559
Speaker 12: Good on, you tell us something we didn't know to

1650
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 12: address three blunt truths about the nation's budget. And he

1651
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 12: makes the point in this speech. It's been leaked to

1652
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 12: The Australian this morning. The budget's not sustainable. Gee, thanks Jim.

1653
01:18:57,920 --> 01:19:00,479
Speaker 12: We knew that as well. He said, it's wrong, but

1654
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 12: not sustainable. Our economy is growing, but not productive enough.

1655
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 12: Productivities in the toilet here in this country. It's resilient,

1656
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 12: not resilient enough in face of global economic fragility. So

1657
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 12: he's not telling us anything we didn't know. In the

1658
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 12: last three years, the Albanizi government has added a net

1659
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 12: one hundred and twelve billion dollars to our deficits over

1660
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 12: the forward estimates, leaving a total of one hundred and

1661
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 12: fifty billion in read ink, while the federal government debt

1662
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 12: is going to reach a trillion dollars as soon as

1663
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 12: September this year.

1664
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 2: Is he going to be accused of you knew all

1665
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 2: this all along, but you didn't tell us enough in

1666
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:41,720
Speaker 2: the election campaign, and now that you back, all of

1667
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 2: a sudden the bad news arises. Got that vibe about it?

1668
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1669
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 12: Does That's what the questions would be about today, And

1670
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 12: no one really surprised him. And the federal government's broken.

1671
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 12: So it's just about every state government around the country,

1672
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 12: including Victoria of course, which says the worst debt and

1673
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 12: the lowest credit rating in the nation.

1674
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 2: Of your music collection where there is a ACDC.

1675
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 12: Fit pretty high if you're talking about Australian music, probably

1676
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 12: just below the Begs, who I'll claim as Australian crowded

1677
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 12: house who are Australians really? Then sorry, then maybe a DC.

1678
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 12: They're going to announce a concert series. I don't know

1679
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,600
Speaker 12: if they're coming to the fine city of Auckland or not,

1680
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 12: but you'll find out. It's going to happen in November.

1681
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 12: But the interesting thing for Melbourne, and you're not old

1682
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:29,679
Speaker 12: enough to remember this, but I can. In nineteen seventy six,

1683
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 12: the ac DC, the original band, got on top of

1684
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 12: a flatbed truck and drove down Swanson Street in the

1685
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 12: center of Melbourne with bagpipes on the back to film

1686
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 12: a very early music video back in Black. So it

1687
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 12: was an extraordinary historical moment. Now the hope is that

1688
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,600
Speaker 12: when they come back in November, they're going to recreate

1689
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 12: that music video down the very same street. The only

1690
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 12: difference that they will find, Angus Young, of course was

1691
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 12: there on the back of that truck that day, is

1692
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,680
Speaker 12: that the street they drove down in the truck in

1693
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 12: our cart can no longer drive down because it's full

1694
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 12: of cyclolopelan bike planes and tram stops.

1695
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 2: Hey, just quickly, I was reading yesterday the bloke they

1696
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 2: got for the Barley nightclub bombing. This is an interesting

1697
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 2: question about back in time. He's been sitting in Gimo

1698
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: all these years, and the Americans announced yesterday they're going

1699
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 2: to take him to trial. How if I went down

1700
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,719
Speaker 2: the street of Melbourne's or streets of Melbourne said Barley

1701
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 2: Nightclub bombing two thousand and two, How many people are

1702
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: sort of cognizant of that and still aware of it

1703
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: and still a big.

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01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:37,560
Speaker 12: Deal my generation and down to probably people aged around

1705
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 12: fifty who would have been in their twenties when the

1706
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 12: Balley bombing took place. I mean it is seed into

1707
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 12: the nation's memory because it was so horrific and what

1708
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 12: we had to do to get people out of there,

1709
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 12: and the fact that some of the Barley bombers. I

1710
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 12: was actually on Aeron radio the night they were executed,

1711
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 12: but some of them were just let go in the

1712
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 12: back in the community and one bloke's running a cop

1713
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 12: be shopping BALI unreal.

1714
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: All right, make catch up soon. Appreciate it very much.

1715
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,280
Speaker 2: Steve Price across the Tasman. Yeah, they're in Gitmo and

1716
01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 2: it's a long time he's been sitting in Gitmo, but

1717
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 2: there he was also accused of a two thousand three

1718
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,800
Speaker 2: bombing the JW Marry you may remember in Chakata. That

1719
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:16,800
Speaker 2: was twelve people that eighty eight Australians dead in the

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Speaker 2: Barley bombing of two thousand and two, eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: Already the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: It appears that Steve got it wrong. Back in Black

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Speaker 2: it was long way to the top. Rock and roll

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Speaker 2: wasn't back in Black. So we'll let Steve know that

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Speaker 2: most liveaboo cities in the world out today. We've got

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Speaker 2: the best airlines earlier on today we're lucky to be

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Speaker 2: serviced by Katar best air line and the world. Singapore

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Speaker 2: was right up there. Best cities in the world. You

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Speaker 2: want to do ten through one, one through ten, let's

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Speaker 2: do ten through one Vancouver. I should tell you overall

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Speaker 2: that last year twenty twenty four, global livability rose fractionally,

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Speaker 2: but it hasn't been the case this year. We've seen

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Speaker 2: declines in stability, no kidding. We do see some improvements

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Speaker 2: in things like health care and education, but that's led

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Speaker 2: mainly by the Middle East or the parts of the

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Speaker 2: Middle East that aren't blowing up at the moment, but

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Speaker 2: that's been offset by declines in stability. So we're not

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Speaker 2: as stable as we used to be, which does bring

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Speaker 2: us back to this whole attitude. And I don't have

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Speaker 2: time this morning, but it was reading a very interesting

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Speaker 2: piece yesterday about the Australian housing market, which is going gangbusters.

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01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 2: It is absolute fomo is back. So the Australian economy

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01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: is okay. It's not great, it's okay, but people are

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01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: borrowing money like there is no tomorrow. There's a que

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Speaker 2: to borrow money. There is a que to get into

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Speaker 2: a house and they are literally wetting their pants with

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Speaker 2: concern that they're going to miss out. Fomo is alive

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Speaker 2: and well in Australian housing, and prices are going through

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Speaker 2: the roof. So a lot of that, I suspect is

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Speaker 2: about attitude and we're in a bit of a funk,

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Speaker 2: as I've seen many times in this country. So how

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Speaker 2: is it, I ask you that Auckland ends up seven,

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Speaker 2: the seven most liberal city in the world, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of you will listen to that and go, But

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Speaker 2: the fact is, if you're you know, in a lot

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Speaker 2: of parts of the world, Auckland would be a magnificent place.

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Speaker 2: So number ten, Vancouver number nine, and Australia does extremely well.

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Speaker 2: There are three cities in the top ten of the world.

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Speaker 2: Adelaide nine, Auckland seven, Osakas seven, Sydney six, Geneva five,

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Speaker 2: Melbourne four. See Melbourne, to my eye is nowhere near Sydney.

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01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: Melbourne's got a tremendous number of cultural social problems, and

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Speaker 2: yet is allegedly better than Sydney. Zurich three, or technically

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Speaker 2: second equal with Vienna and Copenhagen is you're extremely expensive,

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Speaker 2: but nevertheless, design wise, very nice and the most liberbal

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Speaker 2: city in the entire world. So at least Auckland's is

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Speaker 2: inn't there. So it boils down to how you see things,

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Speaker 2: and if you want to see the good things, you

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Speaker 2: a prize. Christopher Bishop, Housing Minister this morning has given

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Speaker 2: a speech in which he is or Cabinet but he's

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Speaker 2: announcing he's got new powers to and this is not

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Speaker 2: a moment too soon. This is this will make the

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Speaker 2: local council's absolutely spew. He has got new powers as

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Speaker 2: Housing Minister to intervene in local council plans. He will

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Speaker 2: be allowed to modify or change plans that work against

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Speaker 2: economic growth, development and employment. This is a new housing

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Speaker 2: discussion document. It's out for consultation. Consultation. Cabinet has agreed

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Speaker 2: to insert a new regulation making power or a new

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Speaker 2: regulation making power and to RMA following us allowing us

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Speaker 2: to modify or remove provisions in local council plans if

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Speaker 2: they negatively impact economic growth, development capacity, or employment. We

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Speaker 2: are not willing to let a single line in a

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Speaker 2: district plan hold back millions or billions in economic potential.

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Speaker 2: If local councilors don't have the courage to make the

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Speaker 2: tough decisions, we will do it for them. The days

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Speaker 2: of letting counsels decide that growth shouldn't happen are over

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Speaker 2: go him five to nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with chemist whare House Great savings every day.

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Speaker 2: Remember I know what you did last summer nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: Jennifer Love Hewitt, Freddy Prince Junior. They had a sequel.

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Speaker 2: I still know what you did last summer. They've done

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Speaker 2: it a third time. If you can believe that, they

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Speaker 2: haven't even changed the name. I know what you did

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Speaker 2: last summer.

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Speaker 16: Oh my god, I'm going on.

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Speaker 2: We don't tell anybody what happened today?

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Speaker 3: Where you go?

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Speaker 21: What if someone says, outside of us, no one knows

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Speaker 21: what happened.

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Speaker 9: Right, someone is clearly coming after us and.

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Speaker 2: Started drinking the cat not going to help us, and we'll.

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Speaker 4: Find someone who will.

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Speaker 12: One of us.

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Speaker 16: Is hiding something.

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Speaker 17: What are you waiting for?

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Speaker 2: How can you tell the same story three times over?

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01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, either you know what you did last summer

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Speaker 2: you didn't know Meddling Klein is the lead. Yes, Jennifer

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Speaker 2: Love Hewitt is also back. Freddy Prince Junior is also back.

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Speaker 2: It's going to hit theaters in July, the eighteenth of July,

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Speaker 2: which is not that far very Bay can We're sort

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Speaker 2: of getting dangerously close to the end of June already,

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Speaker 2: so the year is whizzing us by back tomorrow morning

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Speaker 2: on the shortened week from six Happy Days.

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