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Speaker 1: Kate Hawksby's with us, good morning to you, good morning,

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Speaker 1: and Tim Wilson's with us, good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, and congratulations, well done.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, you Spa.

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Speaker 3: Congrats. I've put up on my Instagram photos of you

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Speaker 3: and your outfit and us at the awards and your award.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just pretty sad I didn't get a shot

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Speaker 3: of Sam and his Vietnamese suit.

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Speaker 1: Well, the thing about Sam in his Vietnamese suit is

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Speaker 1: he started it last year. He's wearing it again today

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Speaker 1: and that started last year because I can't remember why

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Speaker 1: it started last year. But anyway, because I wasn't there

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't exactly yeah, I couldn't see it, and

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Speaker 1: so he brought it in.

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Speaker 2: The suit cost for five dollars or something.

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Speaker 1: Well, this was the story you missed last night because

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Speaker 1: you went there to what I hadn't realized last year

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Speaker 1: with a green suit was though the one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety nine he had paid for it, he actually got

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Speaker 1: two suits for one hundred and ninety nine. So the

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Speaker 1: second suit he debuted last night, which was an unusual silver,

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Speaker 1: and so thinks maybe it was the lighting, but it

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Speaker 1: was an unusual silver with a sheen. I don't know whether.

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Speaker 3: It was what Mike. Mike made Mike during his acceptance speech,

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Speaker 3: raised that told that story and then made Sam stand up,

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Speaker 3: which he did to rousing applause. Memory he did that

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Speaker 2: So poor Sam. That's good that it's good that he's

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Speaker 2: it's good that he's he's actually, you know, sharing the

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Speaker 2: limelight with the man who keeps and caffeinated the subject

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Speaker 2: of his bullying. And I hope you Scott stood up

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Speaker 2: as well. Kate as the as the man, as the woman,

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Speaker 2: pardon me, who grounds him, grounds the.

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Speaker 1: Man exactly what I can't say. Just quickly before I go,

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Speaker 1: she said, yeah, she said, unfortunately, Tim, she said, just

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Speaker 1: remember being humble. I think it went well, CATD.

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Speaker 2: And you said, you said, what's that word? Again? I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry I forgot the first thing. Literally, the first thing

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Speaker 2: he said was I guess I won this because I'm good. Exactly.

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Speaker 2: I saw that. I was like, oh my goodness. Again.

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Speaker 1: The important point to make is Sam actually won. Sam

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Speaker 1: and the team won as the best whatever they called

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Speaker 1: the production team of the year year, So they actually won.

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Speaker 3: The award, Glynn and Sam, because they they're the real

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Speaker 3: story behind you aren't they?

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Speaker 2: And do you know what I did? Katie? Then?

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Speaker 1: And I felt sick for the rest of the night.

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Speaker 1: I didn't thank you, and so I thought, oh jeez,

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Speaker 1: that's you know, I thought I should have done that.

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Speaker 1: So it's like one of those you should have reclaimed

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Speaker 1: want it as something.

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Speaker 2: Come on.

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Speaker 1: A couple of names that people will know on this

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Speaker 1: radio station that sort of fly below the radar. Malcolm

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Speaker 1: Jordan got a I don't know what they call it,

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Speaker 1: something like a Services to the Industry Award. And so

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Speaker 1: Malcolm's on the station a lot, and if you listen

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Speaker 1: on the wed and stuff, and he's been around forever

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Speaker 1: and so he was thoroughly deserving of that because he's

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite broadcasters. He's one of those he's

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Speaker 1: that's that's a skill of course. And so he got

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Speaker 1: his services Never got his Services to the Industry Award two.

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Speaker 1: So so everyone every year goes because never always wins

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Speaker 1: is amazing. Never is amazing.

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Speaker 3: She won Best Newsreader for like the eleventh year.

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Speaker 1: But the problem with doing that is everyone goes, oh,

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Speaker 1: our Neva's won again as though it doesn't count for anything,

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Speaker 1: which it does. You don't win by de fasel.

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Speaker 2: Now this sounds this sounds like someone who may also

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Speaker 2: have one sort of eleven such accolades, who perhaps because

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Speaker 1: I agree like Marcus. So Marcus won. You're right, he

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Speaker 1: won for about the ninth or tenth year in a row,

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Speaker 1: and so he doesn't get the the the the accolades

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Speaker 1: he deserves. And the other one was Jamie McKay. And

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Speaker 1: Jamie McKay does the con country. Yeah, and so Jamie

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Speaker 1: McKay got a lifetime award, which is you know, which

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Speaker 2: And so he got on it for that.

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Speaker 1: And those are the sort of people you want to

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Speaker 1: celebrate because they're the real heroes of the industry. As

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Speaker 3: Out, I think everybody that attended needed an award for

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Speaker 3: sitting through the ceremony, which felt like the world's longest

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Speaker 1: On that note, it was well, too long? Is the

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Speaker 1: turned up. Jason the Big Boss has turned up this morning.

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Speaker 1: So that's good. He was so he was claiming, listen

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Speaker 1: to this. This is so lame. He was claiming, as

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Speaker 1: was late, why is he taking an uber? Join the dots?

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Speaker 1: Why is he taking the next morning?

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Speaker 2: Question?

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself the question, Tim, Why is he taking an

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's a bit of overflow from the night before.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything far from me, Mike, I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Sam the stick of news talks said, but it's not

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Speaker 1: a bad way of putting a Sam's the trendset and

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Speaker 1: not the follower. I see Hosk was wearing a tie.

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Speaker 1: I was wearing a tie. Story behind the tie. I

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Speaker 1: and was reminded yet again what a complete and utter cluster.

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Speaker 1: You know what downtown Auckland is and how they've completely

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Speaker 1: and utterly ruined the place. Brode Cones, congratulations on your reward.

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Speaker 1: More importantly, Katie looked spectacular could you please pass that

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Speaker 2: Oh thing?

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Speaker 1: And they're correct. You you did look absolutely fantastic, just

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Speaker 1: glorious about me. Well, we made it about you, just

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Speaker 2: That's because that's because you didn't make it about her

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Speaker 2: last night as you should have.

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Speaker 1: Trying to rectify some stuff as we speak. I'm having

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Speaker 1: a coffee this morning. By the way, it's very important

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Speaker 1: that people understand this. I'm having a coffee this morning

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Speaker 1: from the coffee fund. And the coffee fund got boosted

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Speaker 1: knows nothing about sport or clothing, but he lost, and

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Speaker 1: so the fifty dollars he lost went into the coffee fund.

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Speaker 1: So I'm having the coffee from the coffee fund make

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Speaker 3: That's not fair.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not fair.

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Speaker 3: The bream did say off here that you liked to suit.

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Speaker 3: You said this morning, it's not bad. Yeah, that's high praise.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, what do straight happen to and lie? I said nothing.

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Speaker 1: not as fair. It's well, it was under fluorescence at

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Speaker 2: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: Now what else do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm finding the divorce, the very public divorce between

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Speaker 3: Trump and Musk, really awkward. I'm not enjoying it. I

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Speaker 3: never think public divorces are a good.

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Speaker 1: He didn't see.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: Really does it change your mind?

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Speaker 2: Mechanics, two volcanic figures, huge egos. Also with with he's

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Speaker 2: very he's very very thin skin, so readily wounded. It

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Speaker 2: was always going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Correct. Does it bother Ukti that he's in the Epstein files?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't

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Speaker 3: those parties. I don't think it necessarily means he was

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Speaker 1: I would have a clue, But why haven't Then the

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Speaker 1: paper has been released?

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Speaker 3: Who would know?

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Speaker 1: He said he'd release the papers, had release all the papers?

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Speaker 2: Maybe that maybe they will be released?

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Speaker 1: Now you reckon, I don't know, get get back.

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Speaker 2: When are you guys? Are I suppose you have pre

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Speaker 2: ordered to send his book.

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Speaker 3: So disappointed not to have been seeing a signed copy

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Speaker 3: you would have been?

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Speaker 1: We're still we haven't. We haven't heard back from the

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Speaker 1: interview request. We asked for an interview, and well, good

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Speaker 1: for you for asking, Good for you for asking. Definitely

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Speaker 1: didn't as Tim wake up, of course not she's.

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, what I thought was really the

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Speaker 2: best review I've read has been by Liam Here, which

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Speaker 2: is like, actually it goes into the fact that her

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Speaker 2: more he believes her Mormon. Liam Here, he's aimator. He's

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Speaker 2: been around, so I'll send you the links he's last time.

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Speaker 1: That's another joke to him. Last time I said who's he?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a New Zealand political commentator.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, Cary, No, the point, the interesting content, or the

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Speaker 2: Yeh, I couldn't handle that.

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Speaker 1: No, that makes sense. But one also what I've discovered

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Speaker 1: little bit of it. I think you'll concur last night, Katie,

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Speaker 1: it is if you're like that, you go to yourself.

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Speaker 1: of course, because you're self aware, you go absolutely, I'm

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Speaker 1: not remotely suited for this job. Is why I, for example,

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Speaker 1: people well. I've got no patience, I've got no time

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Speaker 1: for people, and broadly speaking, I'm a pain in the ass.

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Speaker 3: So I've worked out both Salm and Gleen need to

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Speaker 3: pay rise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so with that, with that self awareness, that's

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Speaker 2: why you will dutifully accept accept your lot and appear

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Speaker 2: at the next radio awards. Is that right? Is that

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Speaker 2: what I'm hearing?

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Speaker 1: Going again?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a never where's the self awareness? Where's

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Speaker 2: the self awareness?

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Speaker 1: Self? Don't even get me started. Do you mind having

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Speaker 1: six million people?

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Speaker 2: Just quickly you too?

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Speaker 1: By the way, this population increases six million a good

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Speaker 1: number for you, seven.

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Speaker 2: Million, twelve after firsteen twelve to fifteen million. I don't like.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the fact they're all in Auckland. I

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Speaker 3: feel like the whole six million are in are in

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Speaker 3: cannot move in Auckland anymore.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like they're Also, if.

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Speaker 1: You could evenly distribute six to twelve million people around

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Speaker 1: the country.

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Speaker 2: The problem, you'd be happy, absolutely, Okay. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: this whole this whole view is better as rubbish. Humanity

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Speaker 2: is not a scourge. More people are better. I have

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Speaker 2: more people.

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Speaker 1: But it's a quality issue also, there isn't I mean,

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Speaker 1: quantity versus quality. I'd go for I'd go for seven

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Speaker 1: quality over twelve. Bogans just thought.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends as long as the bogans are driving.

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Speaker 1: It's a Hemi, not a hemi, but God bless you

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Speaker 1: for raising engine talk.

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