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Speaker 2: Huddle with me this evening we've got clear to law

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Speaker 2: journalist and Mark Sainsbury, Men's health weak director and broadcast

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Speaker 2: Hello are you too?

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Speaker 3: Hello there?

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Speaker 2: Thinks yeah, good, thank you? Unclaire, What do you make

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Speaker 2: of the inter Island? Are still pretending that they don't

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Speaker 2: know what happened on the ferry?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think they know exactly what happened, right, And I

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Speaker 3: think they're also caught up in a process with a

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Speaker 3: lot of lawyers and I don't think that's going to

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Speaker 3: surprise anyway.

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Speaker 2: That's what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course, I mean if this is going to

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Speaker 3: effect possibly somebody's employment, there will be backwards and forwards

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Speaker 3: on that. So I can actually sort of understand why

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Speaker 3: the delays. It's probably obvious to people that it's one

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Speaker 3: of two things. It's either equipment error like the something

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Speaker 3: broke down, yeah, or somebody didn't for five equipment that's right,

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Speaker 3: And you know it'll come down to did they know

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Speaker 3: what they were doing? Were they present? But you've just

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Speaker 3: been reassured that everyone was present, who needed to be

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Speaker 3: present where they're paying attention. I think the cup of

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Speaker 3: coffee that New Zealand first threw into it is a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a distraction. It doesn't matter why this

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Speaker 3: lack of attention or this error, if that's what it is, happened,

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Speaker 3: it happened. You've got to get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 3: I notice at the moment they say their sailings are

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Speaker 3: going to be without the autopilot on at any point.

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Speaker 3: So it is possible there's an autopilot problem problem, yep.

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Speaker 3: But it's also very likely with lawyers involved, that people

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Speaker 3: are looking towards the implications for their employment right saying.

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Speaker 2: So that actually makes sense, doesn't it. But I mean,

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Speaker 2: even if that's the case, they look so silly pretending

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Speaker 2: that they don't know or obfuscating.

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Speaker 4: A nice job in that interview. Hit it because you

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Speaker 4: cut right to the point. You guys know what happened

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Speaker 4: in the memo, someone pushed the button one of the

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Speaker 4: handful of people on the bridge. They know what tepened,

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Speaker 4: but they're sort of putting it off. And our nectural

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Speaker 4: justice mok and short yip nectal justice they have to

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Speaker 4: take its part. But it makes it just makes them.

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Speaker 4: You're quite right. They look stupid because they are sitting

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Speaker 4: there just trying to deny something which is sort of

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Speaker 4: they've already admitted and memos and various other things. It

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Speaker 4: just makes them excuse.

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Speaker 3: They're not actually denying what happened, but they're not going

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Speaker 3: they're not attributing it to any particular thing at the

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Speaker 3: moment because, as I say, I'm pretty sure that there'll

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Speaker 3: be lawyers over this.

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Speaker 2: They are avoiding answering some questions though, aren't they right?

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Speaker 4: Of course the timing header, I mean, you know this

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Speaker 4: is the fairies have been a sort of a thing

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Speaker 4: for New Zealand fairs. Remember there was a there was that. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: they came up with it. They raised in the house

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Speaker 4: about the propeller falling off and the rudder doing this.

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Speaker 4: There is something a connection. So this was like you

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Speaker 4: just could not believe it. Winston's acting Prime Minister. They

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Speaker 4: get a tip off for come on on a fairy

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Speaker 4: and you know the Kiwi Rail just must have been thinking,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, this is a this is a.

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Speaker 2: It's such antication for Winston.

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Speaker 3: It's not as first Rodio, No, the fair is either yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: Get back of the huddle, Mark Sainsbury and Clear de Law. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Saints o Luxon. Have you seen the photos of him

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Speaker 2: at the White House with hob nobbing with all the

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Speaker 2: other world leaders and how absolutely stoked he is.

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Speaker 4: Oh, that's exactly Look that's et I was looking at

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Speaker 4: the photos. He looks so excited having the best day. Oh,

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Speaker 4: it is, it is, It is really interesting. So because yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's interesting. I'm talking a few people up here the

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Speaker 4: There's a little bit of smartest guy in the room,

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Speaker 4: creeping and apparently but he's certainly loving the job.

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Speaker 2: Yep, what do you think there? I mean, this is

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Speaker 2: this is for somebody who is a student of American politics.

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Speaker 2: This is like the moment, this.

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Speaker 3: Is his dreams come true. He's he's on the fringes

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Speaker 3: of the A listers. And you know when Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: says he loves New Zealand. I bet he's He's told

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is really good that he's there. He's

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Speaker 3: getting a little bit of FaceTime. If it was me,

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Speaker 3: i'd been trying to be really cool, like yeah, sure

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Speaker 3: I belong here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But with him, it's sort of like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: itself in the side of the balcony shot behind I

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Speaker 3: don't know, the Japanese Prime Minister or something, and lot

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Speaker 3: of Mazelenski and he's used the tiniest bit of.

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Speaker 2: Space to make sure he gets in that photo. Say so,

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Speaker 2: how long do you give Biden before he's out?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Look, you know I watched that. When I watched that debate,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think it was the same for all

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Speaker 4: of us, no matter where your politics. Like a minute

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Speaker 4: and a half and you just wanted a dween was

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Speaker 4: like watching a car crash. And it's just got worse

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Speaker 4: and worse. And I mean, George Clooney must be the

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Speaker 4: biggest donor to the Democrats. I mean he's saying to him,

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Speaker 4: you know, I love the sky. You've got to go,

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Speaker 4: but oh God help me. The message not getting through

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Speaker 4: and I can understand if you'd spent your entire life, Heather,

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Speaker 4: like he has essentially in public service in the Senate,

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Speaker 4: vice president president, you know, you start thinking about your legacy.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to resign and destroy my records sort

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Speaker 4: of thing, you know, which, which is understandable, but it's

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Speaker 4: just wrong.

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Speaker 2: I suspect clear that the Clooney editorial is going to

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Speaker 2: be the thing that tips him.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And also Nancy Pelosi, who barely coded language, was saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's time to make up your mind, and

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Speaker 3: she wasn't sort of saying one way or the other.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's actually pretty sad. You talk about legacy,

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Speaker 3: and I think his legacy now is going to be

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Speaker 3: quite tainted if he insists on hanging on until he

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Speaker 3: is prized out of the job. Because you know, fundamentally,

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Speaker 3: that debate showed a good person looking very bad and

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Speaker 3: somebody who I consider to be a bad person looking

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Speaker 3: better than he should. Yes, and it's too important that

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Speaker 3: right now. So I just think he would be well

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Speaker 3: advised to take the advice of George Clooney, who I

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Speaker 3: think was pretty brave, because you know, if he's got

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Speaker 3: a personal friendship that will now be gone. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He was quite cunning though, because he also said, look,

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Speaker 4: and if we go this way, there'll be more money

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Speaker 4: for the other campaigns.

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Speaker 3: But also what a dream come true? You know, Vladimir

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Speaker 3: Zelenski was a comedian who became president. Maybe George Kuld

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Speaker 3: be the actor who becomes president Ronald Ray.

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Speaker 2: I mean, would that not be a dream? Yes, running

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Speaker 2: the free world? So even you would be into that

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Speaker 2: hot bay running the free world?

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh, look, I think I think it would be fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Although the other thing I saw the one of the

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Speaker 4: other poles in Shallow'bama. If she stood be an absolute shoean,

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Speaker 4: she would I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Why she isn't a mile Clooney ought to be Ashuran,

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Speaker 3: but she's probably bright enough to think, yeah, I will

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Speaker 3: stick with very difficult desks spots that I'm taking cases

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Speaker 3: against all over the world.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, what do you think sane so of spending one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten thousand dollars on fifteen bikes for kaya

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Speaker 4: Look, I saw it, and it's one of those classic

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Speaker 4: ones when you look at you thought this is just nuts.

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Speaker 4: The funny thing is I can sort of where I

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Speaker 4: live the building clayger or A settlements. Settlements so building

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Speaker 4: projects and things, although one of them has just been ditched.

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Speaker 4: I said it's too expensive. It's an empty lot, and

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Speaker 4: there's a big issue over when they build them. They'll

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Speaker 4: build forty apartments and they're fourteen car packs. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, and all the neighbors are going well, yes,

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Speaker 4: so where the rest of the car's going.

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Speaker 1: On the street.

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Speaker 4: So I can sort of understand why they think, okay,

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Speaker 4: let's try and give them something different and sort of

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Speaker 4: you know, cycling, it's all sort of gung ho and

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Speaker 4: this is the way to go and e bikes and

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Speaker 4: everything like that. But again it's the delivery. So it

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Speaker 4: just didn't quite work out the way it shouldn't. You know,

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Speaker 4: something never got a look and they've got vandalizer. I

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Speaker 4: think it was built with good intentions, you know, but

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Speaker 4: sometimes those good intentions still of take you that.

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Speaker 2: You should see Claire's face right now, Claire put your

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Speaker 2: face into words, because you are not loving this.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know. Then it was a pilot. It was

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Speaker 3: to roll it out elsewhere it worked. So what was

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Speaker 3: that going to cost? And you know it was going

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Speaker 3: to be very expensive. And then as somebody who's just

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Speaker 3: had her e bike stolen. I can assure you they're

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Speaker 3: pretty hot property, and I am. I am extremely impressed.

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Speaker 2: How much did you spend on your e bike by

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Speaker 2: the way, well, I.

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Speaker 3: Was an early adopter. No, actually I went for the

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Speaker 3: bottom of the range. And I can't tell you now

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Speaker 3: because I'm so forgotten. I've forgotten. I need to I

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Speaker 3: need to get it up. I should be running the

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Speaker 3: free world.

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Speaker 2: That's right, guys, thank you very much, really appreciated. As

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