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Speaker 1: big names, the big issues, the big controversies and the

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Speaker 2: Hello, Keln, a good afternoon, Welcome in to the Sunday

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Speaker 2: edition of Weekend Sport on News Talk said the September fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Nathan. Aastal turns it around the corner and

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Speaker 2: he has it two hundred of one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: three balls. The standing your mention for Nath and Nastal

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Speaker 2: forever iconic. That ending is against England back in two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two in christ Church two to two two,

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Speaker 2: from one hundred and sixty eight balls, twenty eight four

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Speaker 2: to eleven six ers as last one hundred runs came

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Speaker 2: off thirty nine balls. Happy birthday, Nathan. One of our

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Speaker 2: greatest female cricketers, Emily Drum also having a birthday today.

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Speaker 2: She scored one hundred and sixty one not out and

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Speaker 2: sixty two not out in a Test against Australia in

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Speaker 2: ninety five. Another one hundred against England in ninety six,

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Speaker 2: played over one hundred one days and was captain of

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Speaker 2: the White Ferns when they won the World Cup on

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Speaker 2: home soil in two thousand. Happily, happy birthday to you too, Emily.

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Speaker 2: In two years since this much of Rain.

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Speaker 3: Now has changed his decision.

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Speaker 4: It's an all black scrum and Bernard Folly is filthy,

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Speaker 4: the crowds laying into muchI Rainaw he changed the decision

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Speaker 2: Now it's an all black scrum. You've only got a

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Speaker 2: certain amount of time to click for touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're leading the China Tuo down the

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Speaker 4: clock and they've done so illegally.

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Speaker 2: Big call from rainw remember that, martiur Ray. Now, the

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Speaker 2: time wasting coll at the back end of the Bledisloe

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Speaker 2: leading to the All Blacks winning thirty nine thirty seven

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Speaker 2: at Marvel Stadium. That's enough. Looking back on Jason Pine,

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Speaker 2: Andy McDonald alongside, we're here talking sport until three after

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Speaker 2: one o'clock. Olympic high Jump chair and Hamish curR is

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Speaker 2: in studio five weeks since that dramatic I jump final

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Speaker 2: in Paris, looking forward to chatting with Hamish curR after

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Speaker 2: one massive game of provincial rugby in Blenhim this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: As I said to Francesca half an hour ago, what

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Speaker 2: a brilliant sentence to say, massive game of provincial rugby

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Speaker 2: in Blenhim this afternoon. Tasman defend the ran Fury Shield

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Speaker 2: for the first time ever. Wellington are in town to

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Speaker 2: try and take it off them five past two kickoff

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Speaker 2: at Lansdowne Park. If you're after a commentary of that game,

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Speaker 2: you can hear it on gold Sport and iHeartRadio from

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Speaker 2: just after two o'clock. We will get you inside both

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Speaker 2: camps this hour, the Wellington challenges and the Tasman defend us.

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Speaker 2: And I'm keen to chat some Shield rugby with you

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Speaker 2: It still is. Heaps of good Ranfilly Shield stories as well,

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Speaker 2: which I'd love to love to hear and also want

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Speaker 2: to chat to any Tasman supporters in particular, how are

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Speaker 2: Other matters around today the Black Ferns going down twenty

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Speaker 2: four to twelve to England and their rugby international at Twickenham.

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Speaker 2: Early hours of this morning. Ruby Toohey is with us

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Speaker 2: out of London. The Black Cats have arrived in Sri

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Speaker 2: Stead and all around a Rich and Ravendra are on

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Speaker 2: the show. James mcconi in as usual around one forty five,

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Speaker 2: a heap of live sport as well the Shield Challenge

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Speaker 2: of course at five past two Counties against Otaga. At

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Speaker 2: the same time in the NPC Fara Palmercup. It's halftime

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Speaker 2: or between Counties and Waycuttle can tell you that Whyecutle

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Speaker 2: there's a Championship semi final just underway at Jerry Coolins

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Speaker 2: Stadium and Pottidoor, Wellington already seven doll ahead of Otago.

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Speaker 2: Davis Cup Tennis as well in Palmerston, North, New Zealand

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Speaker 2: against Luxembourg. Now Luxembourg won both of the opening day

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Speaker 2: It's coming up twelve past midday.

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Speaker 1: Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world

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Speaker 1: weekends for it with Jason Vive call eight hundred eighty Jenny.

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Speaker 4: Towards the uprights and that's over, Jasmine, Jasmine.

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Speaker 5: When for Renfairly.

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Speaker 2: Shield here they did a week ago in Napier for

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Speaker 2: the first time ever. But can they hold on to it?

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Speaker 2: This afternoon, eight days after claiming it for the very

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Speaker 2: and blend them. This afternoon they faced Wellington from five

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Speaker 2: past two. Let's bring in Tasman Muckel captain Quentin Strange. Quentin,

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Speaker 2: great to get the chance to chat to you on

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Speaker 2: match day. How has the week been, First of all,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she buzzed through the community and in

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Speaker 6: the team in the Union. It's good. A great week

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Speaker 6: the boys. It ended it really well. I thought, you know,

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Speaker 6: our training and engaging with the community and everything's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about striking that balance in a moment.

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Speaker 2: But just back to the to the game up in Napier.

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Speaker 2: What was it like watching Campbell putter to line up

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Speaker 2: that last minute kick and then watching it south through

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Speaker 6: I was out of I don't know. I was disbelief.

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Speaker 6: It was the relief that was all the above excitement.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it was I couldn't yeah, but really yeah, I

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Speaker 6: I was very gratefully got it because, yeah, something we've

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Speaker 2: How was the welcome back at the airport, did it

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Speaker 2: kind of you bring home to you just how you

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, but the welcome back on Sunday was Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's just what it meant to the community. And it's

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Speaker 6: in very high regard. It was such an honor to

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Speaker 2: You talked about the balance that you had to strike

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Speaker 2: you know, very quickly, I'm sure, having to refocus for

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Speaker 2: what will be a massive challenge this afternoon. How have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's just we've spoken around obviously we've

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Speaker 6: hold onto it. But it's this week's been so much

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Speaker 6: which a lot of guys who aren't playing have fronted

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Speaker 6: our plan to just focus on that, which has been

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Speaker 2: Been a good season for Tessaman. Five wines from five matches.

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Speaker 2: Can't do better than that. What's been the foundation of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think every game has been different too, which

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Speaker 6: get better each week, and we work great culture, willing

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Speaker 6: to work hard for each other, and I think anything

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Speaker 6: obviously we're aware of what's in front of us and

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Speaker 6: not dwelling on the paths. Were moving forward and prepared

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Speaker 6: for a big challenge. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How big a challenge do you perceive Wellington to be

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Speaker 6: Yeah, messive. You know they're at top of the table.

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Speaker 6: They parted in gratefully this year. They've got an awesome team. Obviously, Well,

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Speaker 6: we're willing to work hard and go deep, deeper than

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Speaker 2: David Helvilli returns from All Blacks Judy to slot on

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Speaker 2: at second five. I know he plays for for Tasman

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Speaker 2: when whenever it's possible. How much of a boost is

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Speaker 2: it to have him in the twelve jerseys afternoon?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No massive, he's as a Protestant man. Any chance he

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Speaker 6: He's he's the sort of guy that you wanted your team.

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Speaker 6: He's not only as well he left the guy's standards

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Speaker 6: Obviously puts twelve, butlet's at the Beach. You know it's

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Speaker 6: that was been good, but Davey's going to be huge

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a sellout this afternoon at Lansdowne Park

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Speaker 2: and blame him Errick and how important drinking that'll be?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Massive? You know they always provide great crowds asn't

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Speaker 6: to sell out Landsdown's pretty special and we just wanted

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Speaker 6: make a lot of noise in something that you notice

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Speaker 6: when you're at home plant in front of your fans

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Speaker 6: is the engagement and create opportunities and whatnot. So now

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Speaker 6: they're won't be huge in order to help us get

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Speaker 6: over the line.

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Speaker 2: Now this is entirely a hypothetical question, but if you

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Speaker 2: had the choice, would you rather have the shield for

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Speaker 2: the summer or win the NPC? Fair enough or you

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Speaker 2: may well do it? You may well do it not

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Speaker 2: beyond the realms of possibility. Absolutely, Just did you have this?

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Speaker 2: nape you? Does the captain get that on it?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, but I'll share it well read funny Christie

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Speaker 6: Blue Chapman as well. So we all wear that.

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Speaker 2: And like just a back to what it means to people.

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Speaker 2: I've seen so much footage of people getting photos with it,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know that there's another sporting trophy in

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Speaker 2: get it up on their social media. Have you had

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Speaker 2: would really like to see the Ranfurlly Shield drop into

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Speaker 2: the Ranfurly Shield is all of those things, all of them,

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Speaker 2: It'll still be here one hundred years.

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Speaker 1: Weekends for it on.

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Speaker 2: Newstalks there be twelve twenty four. Hello ken okod aa fini,

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 11: I just pressed out on my stack of old programs

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff. Ken You wonder what it was like at

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Speaker 11: It is. No, this is quite a comprehensive little magazine

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so they were all on tours and they didn't

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Speaker 2: Talking Shield Rugby Bruce Calvin Please hold O eight hundred

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Speaker 2: News Talks, he'd.

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Speaker 1: Be it's more than just a game weekends for it

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Speaker 1: with Jason Pine and G J. Gardnerhomes New Zealand's most

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine to one. Mac of the Magpie on text piney,

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Speaker 2: don't do this to me. Got the shield stolen off

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Speaker 2: who knows. That's the beauty of it. It could still

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Speaker 2: the season. Bruce, how are you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? Good things phony? You said perky today?

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Speaker 2: Well, check back in with me in a few hours

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Speaker 2: I'll be you know, I'll be unbearable.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll be crying. Yeah, okay, just a bit of history.

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Speaker 10: And because I'm getting a bit older, our company were

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Speaker 10: when you get to those little you know, like Timrou's

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Speaker 10: Of course we won and so you know why cat

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Speaker 10: Shield game I saw was up the Mud Bath, which

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00:24:01,627 --> 00:24:04,707
Speaker 10: you probably wouldn't remember, but they have at Rugby Park

429
00:24:05,147 --> 00:24:08,427
Speaker 10: as it was in the old days up in fun Ray,

430
00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:12,347
Speaker 10: and they always joked that it had the deepest mud

431
00:24:12,547 --> 00:24:16,427
Speaker 10: and the highest goalposts and it was an Auckland North

432
00:24:16,467 --> 00:24:22,547
Speaker 10: Auckland game back in Cripe's early sixties piny and anyway,

433
00:24:24,187 --> 00:24:27,267
Speaker 10: it was. It was three all with just virtually a

434
00:24:27,347 --> 00:24:31,067
Speaker 10: couple of minutes to go. So Northam was holding the shield,

435
00:24:31,107 --> 00:24:35,587
Speaker 10: of course, and John Cybon right in front of us,

436
00:24:36,867 --> 00:24:40,907
Speaker 10: we were sitting there, and he dived over in the

437
00:24:40,907 --> 00:24:45,947
Speaker 10: blooming corner and Auton took it back again and six three,

438
00:24:46,107 --> 00:24:49,467
Speaker 10: and uh, you would have thought the whole of fun

439
00:24:49,667 --> 00:24:53,347
Speaker 10: Ray had sort of had died over virtually.

440
00:24:55,227 --> 00:24:57,747
Speaker 2: That's a real rugby school. That was the bro sixty three.

441
00:24:57,867 --> 00:24:59,867
Speaker 2: That is a good old fashioned rugby school.

442
00:25:00,627 --> 00:25:03,547
Speaker 10: I know I ended the day's six three, you know,

443
00:25:03,907 --> 00:25:06,307
Speaker 10: And yet it was a it was a great game pie,

444
00:25:06,507 --> 00:25:09,307
Speaker 10: you know, like I know it's certainly to say that

445
00:25:09,387 --> 00:25:12,867
Speaker 10: the goavern at six three, but it was just so hard.

446
00:25:12,987 --> 00:25:15,627
Speaker 10: And of course they played tough in those days, I

447
00:25:15,667 --> 00:25:20,067
Speaker 10: mean the Maringovich brothers and that they were good creations,

448
00:25:20,107 --> 00:25:22,387
Speaker 10: tough men, and of course you did get away with

449
00:25:22,467 --> 00:25:24,667
Speaker 10: the light. I mean you wouldn't get away with anything

450
00:25:24,787 --> 00:25:27,187
Speaker 10: like that today. I mean, if you touch someone in

451
00:25:27,227 --> 00:25:29,947
Speaker 10: the head you get sent off, you know. But yes,

452
00:25:30,027 --> 00:25:31,227
Speaker 10: so she was a tough game.

453
00:25:31,307 --> 00:25:31,627
Speaker 12: Crips.

454
00:25:31,707 --> 00:25:35,427
Speaker 10: But anyway, that's that's my thoughts on it. So they

455
00:25:35,507 --> 00:25:36,507
Speaker 10: have a great day.

456
00:25:36,627 --> 00:25:38,227
Speaker 2: You have a great day. So Bruce, great to get

457
00:25:38,227 --> 00:25:41,387
Speaker 2: your recollections, mate. I love that. I'd forgotten. But Wellington

458
00:25:41,387 --> 00:25:44,067
Speaker 2: beat Tasman last year. They defended the Shield against Tasman.

459
00:25:44,227 --> 00:25:47,147
Speaker 2: It was seven nil one converted try. That was all,

460
00:25:48,587 --> 00:25:51,347
Speaker 2: you know. I looked at the Hartland Championship games yesterday

461
00:25:51,347 --> 00:25:52,747
Speaker 2: and he pointed this out to me. It was like

462
00:25:53,267 --> 00:25:58,987
Speaker 2: optional defense yesterday. The fifties and sixties were scored. But yeah,

463
00:25:59,067 --> 00:26:01,707
Speaker 2: I don't mind a good old fashioned six three and

464
00:26:01,747 --> 00:26:04,507
Speaker 2: I think we'll get that this afternoon. Just look at

465
00:26:04,507 --> 00:26:06,227
Speaker 2: if you are in the Marlborough region, just look at

466
00:26:06,227 --> 00:26:08,627
Speaker 2: the quick with a report. Watch to like there as

467
00:26:08,667 --> 00:26:12,347
Speaker 2: we approach an hour and a half away from kickoff. Richard,

468
00:26:12,387 --> 00:26:14,107
Speaker 2: were you and Marlborough when they last had it?

469
00:26:15,307 --> 00:26:16,787
Speaker 13: Yes, yeah, for about a week.

470
00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:20,147
Speaker 2: What did you go there on? Did you go there

471
00:26:20,227 --> 00:26:21,627
Speaker 2: especially just to soak it up?

472
00:26:21,907 --> 00:26:25,907
Speaker 12: I went I for twenty years but they only held

473
00:26:25,907 --> 00:26:28,187
Speaker 12: the shield for a week. But it was I've paid

474
00:26:28,707 --> 00:26:32,747
Speaker 12: two games of touch rugby, I mean rugby in the life.

475
00:26:32,867 --> 00:26:34,587
Speaker 12: I was about twelve and gave it up as a

476
00:26:34,587 --> 00:26:38,467
Speaker 12: bad idea, but it was so hard not to get

477
00:26:38,507 --> 00:26:40,667
Speaker 12: infused even though they lost it.

478
00:26:40,707 --> 00:26:41,187
Speaker 14: And you know, I.

479
00:26:43,187 --> 00:26:45,547
Speaker 12: Mean to be able to walk into a pub and

480
00:26:45,587 --> 00:26:48,707
Speaker 12: meet you know, the rugby players, you know, like the

481
00:26:48,747 --> 00:26:52,347
Speaker 12: Southerland Brothers and all those guys who were legends of

482
00:26:52,427 --> 00:26:57,147
Speaker 12: the time. But yeah, it was. It's quite amazing for

483
00:26:57,307 --> 00:27:02,067
Speaker 12: such a small population to have won the Ranfrelly Shiel.

484
00:27:02,107 --> 00:27:03,787
Speaker 12: Back then, I think I don't think you'd live any

485
00:27:04,307 --> 00:27:10,387
Speaker 12: repeated again, you know. But but years later I thank you.

486
00:27:10,387 --> 00:27:14,827
Speaker 12: You know guy in the background that I got to

487
00:27:15,467 --> 00:27:20,627
Speaker 12: interview Colin Meads on TV? Did you he was because

488
00:27:20,667 --> 00:27:24,667
Speaker 12: I had a business down there, and the brothers that

489
00:27:24,787 --> 00:27:29,547
Speaker 12: ran that Heartland Ran rugby rang me up and and

490
00:27:30,307 --> 00:27:32,987
Speaker 12: I got me to do the Heartland rugby if it

491
00:27:33,067 --> 00:27:36,227
Speaker 12: was just like a second grade game and it was

492
00:27:36,267 --> 00:27:39,667
Speaker 12: an important game. So I got drawn back into rugby

493
00:27:40,227 --> 00:27:43,947
Speaker 12: as somebody, you know, And yeah, it was, it is.

494
00:27:44,107 --> 00:27:46,587
Speaker 12: It is an extremely I mean, I don't know what

495
00:27:46,627 --> 00:27:48,707
Speaker 12: it's like now because that was quite a few years ago.

496
00:27:48,747 --> 00:27:51,507
Speaker 12: But you know, Milburgh always thought to the day I

497
00:27:51,587 --> 00:27:53,347
Speaker 12: left there, they thought they were going to win it back.

498
00:27:54,067 --> 00:27:56,507
Speaker 12: Every game, that every challenge, we're going to get it back.

499
00:27:57,547 --> 00:28:00,267
Speaker 2: What was what was I say, what was sir Colin?

500
00:28:00,347 --> 00:28:01,947
Speaker 2: Like it would have just been Colin Meads then was

501
00:28:01,947 --> 00:28:02,787
Speaker 2: he or was he was?

502
00:28:02,867 --> 00:28:04,267
Speaker 12: I think yeah, yeah he was.

503
00:28:05,227 --> 00:28:05,547
Speaker 7: He was.

504
00:28:05,667 --> 00:28:08,747
Speaker 12: He was nice, you know, like he was very very

505
00:28:09,187 --> 00:28:12,107
Speaker 12: softly spoken and sort of you know, he was I

506
00:28:12,147 --> 00:28:13,107
Speaker 12: don't know, do you know.

507
00:28:13,027 --> 00:28:14,947
Speaker 13: Who the brothers were that ran that heart then?

508
00:28:15,147 --> 00:28:17,587
Speaker 12: I think they were wrestlers or somebody. They had some

509
00:28:18,387 --> 00:28:20,747
Speaker 12: unusual thing. But I think he was just called and

510
00:28:21,547 --> 00:28:24,867
Speaker 12: he was past his playing career. Yeah, yeah, he was

511
00:28:24,947 --> 00:28:27,867
Speaker 12: just just calling them to give commons, you know. And

512
00:28:28,867 --> 00:28:30,667
Speaker 12: I didn't next your interview. I just held the camera

513
00:28:30,747 --> 00:28:32,427
Speaker 12: while somebody else well.

514
00:28:32,387 --> 00:28:34,987
Speaker 2: No, no, I look, Gretchard, I'd claim it. I'd claim

515
00:28:35,027 --> 00:28:37,427
Speaker 2: that you were in and around a media interview with

516
00:28:37,507 --> 00:28:39,627
Speaker 2: Sir Colin Meads or column he may have been, then

517
00:28:39,747 --> 00:28:43,347
Speaker 2: got on your Richard. Let's hope that that that Marlborough

518
00:28:43,427 --> 00:28:45,387
Speaker 2: or as they are now. Of course Tasman. You know,

519
00:28:45,427 --> 00:28:52,867
Speaker 2: the Malburn Nelson Bays conglomeration, the amalgamation. From memory, my

520
00:28:53,187 --> 00:28:55,067
Speaker 2: memory is a bit dim on this, but I remember

521
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:57,867
Speaker 2: that there was a bit of controversy initially when the

522
00:28:57,907 --> 00:29:00,347
Speaker 2: two combined, and it's taken them a long time to

523
00:29:00,347 --> 00:29:02,187
Speaker 2: get the shield. I think they combined in two thousand

524
00:29:02,227 --> 00:29:07,427
Speaker 2: and six. I think it was two thousand and six.

525
00:29:08,587 --> 00:29:12,027
Speaker 2: Anyway someone will know Overcast and Blenheim at the moment

526
00:29:12,107 --> 00:29:14,907
Speaker 2: Piney from Tamer. Thanks Tamer, I appreciate that. I remember

527
00:29:14,907 --> 00:29:17,787
Speaker 2: going to Rugby Park as a ten year old after

528
00:29:17,867 --> 00:29:21,107
Speaker 2: the hand of Perv Graham Purvis the night that white

529
00:29:21,107 --> 00:29:23,867
Speaker 2: Cuttle took the shield off Auckland. That was another very

530
00:29:23,907 --> 00:29:26,547
Speaker 2: famous shield challenge, of course, because Auckland had it, as

531
00:29:26,547 --> 00:29:30,187
Speaker 2: we know, for sixty one successful challenges after they took

532
00:29:30,227 --> 00:29:32,707
Speaker 2: it off Auckland in nineteen Sorry, we took it off

533
00:29:32,707 --> 00:29:35,067
Speaker 2: Canterbury in nineteen ninety five. Auckland held it for sixty

534
00:29:35,107 --> 00:29:38,387
Speaker 2: one successful challenges until white cut Or came to Eden

535
00:29:38,427 --> 00:29:40,867
Speaker 2: Park in nineteen ninety three and took it off them

536
00:29:41,107 --> 00:29:44,867
Speaker 2: with no little help from Graham Pervis. A remember his

537
00:29:44,987 --> 00:29:48,467
Speaker 2: hand sort of flicking it back whether on Blendham sunshining

538
00:29:48,507 --> 00:29:52,387
Speaker 2: through white fluffy clouds, no wind, not cold, it's hot.

539
00:29:52,587 --> 00:29:55,667
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Jackson Garden Baship from Wellington shortly

540
00:29:56,107 --> 00:29:58,027
Speaker 2: Norman High Hi.

541
00:29:58,507 --> 00:30:02,907
Speaker 7: Yes, so the Rnsverly Shield. I was a schoolboy. I

542
00:30:03,067 --> 00:30:06,987
Speaker 7: traveled from the out the bank of the Maroon, Dunedin

543
00:30:07,027 --> 00:30:13,387
Speaker 7: to watch Ranfury shields christ Church. Yes you name it.

544
00:30:13,587 --> 00:30:18,827
Speaker 7: My father he was actively involved rugby, played for Bushfire

545
00:30:18,947 --> 00:30:24,147
Speaker 7: Rapper and his possibly would have gone away with the

546
00:30:24,227 --> 00:30:26,787
Speaker 7: twenty nine All Blacks had he not been injured in

547
00:30:26,827 --> 00:30:31,707
Speaker 7: a professional fight the night before the trials or something.

548
00:30:32,107 --> 00:30:37,267
Speaker 7: At any rate, he said Kevin Skinner away from boxing

549
00:30:37,507 --> 00:30:40,987
Speaker 7: when he took the news on amateur heavyweight title and

550
00:30:41,107 --> 00:30:46,027
Speaker 7: said Kevin was no future and boxing. You gone to

551
00:30:46,027 --> 00:30:47,587
Speaker 7: pad on your rugby and you'll be able to go

552
00:30:47,627 --> 00:30:52,147
Speaker 7: to South Africa forty nine with the All Blacks, which

553
00:30:52,147 --> 00:30:57,707
Speaker 7: he did. And Kevin Skinner made a tribute to her

554
00:30:57,707 --> 00:31:02,947
Speaker 7: father changing his life at my father's funeral a few

555
00:31:03,027 --> 00:31:07,707
Speaker 7: years ago. At any rate, years, I say it has

556
00:31:07,827 --> 00:31:13,147
Speaker 7: died because the games are not really shown on TV

557
00:31:13,467 --> 00:31:18,027
Speaker 7: to promote the sport a ball and that's where it's

558
00:31:18,027 --> 00:31:21,627
Speaker 7: a dead dunk. I watch league now because it's a

559
00:31:21,667 --> 00:31:24,507
Speaker 7: sport and you can watch it on TV even if

560
00:31:24,547 --> 00:31:27,507
Speaker 7: the Warriors winning all losing, but rugby has got a

561
00:31:27,547 --> 00:31:29,507
Speaker 7: lot to do with their own faults.

562
00:31:29,787 --> 00:31:31,147
Speaker 2: You can still watch the rugby though.

563
00:31:30,987 --> 00:31:36,907
Speaker 7: Norman, Oh yeah, if you if you got Sky, yes,

564
00:31:36,947 --> 00:31:37,307
Speaker 7: same with.

565
00:31:37,227 --> 00:31:39,067
Speaker 2: The Warriors, though I think you need Sky to watch

566
00:31:39,067 --> 00:31:40,867
Speaker 2: the Warriors, don't you.

567
00:31:40,867 --> 00:31:44,387
Speaker 7: No, no, no, All their games have been on the

568
00:31:44,427 --> 00:31:45,227
Speaker 7: normal network.

569
00:31:46,427 --> 00:31:49,507
Speaker 2: Are you on Sky Open? Yes, Sky Opened, the formerly

570
00:31:49,547 --> 00:31:53,747
Speaker 2: Prime Yeah, the freedoware yep. Good point, Norman, good story

571
00:31:53,747 --> 00:31:55,547
Speaker 2: as well about Kevin Skinner. Yeah, it sounds like your

572
00:31:55,547 --> 00:31:57,507
Speaker 2: old man did us all favor. What a wonderful all

573
00:31:57,547 --> 00:32:00,027
Speaker 2: black Kevin Skinner turned out to be. Appreciate your call

574
00:32:00,147 --> 00:32:04,747
Speaker 2: very much. Get your facts correct, mate, says this one. Hawks.

575
00:32:04,747 --> 00:32:06,827
Speaker 2: They didn't take the shield to Funk and Hue. You're right,

576
00:32:07,107 --> 00:32:10,707
Speaker 2: good fact checking, Wengerno. We went to Hawk's Bay. My apologies.

577
00:32:10,747 --> 00:32:13,387
Speaker 2: I just assume naturally that that was taken on the road.

578
00:32:13,427 --> 00:32:16,027
Speaker 2: I should have checked. Thank you. That game was in Napier,

579
00:32:16,027 --> 00:32:18,787
Speaker 2: as was the King Country game actually, so they didn't

580
00:32:18,827 --> 00:32:21,387
Speaker 2: take it on the road. Thank you very much for

581
00:32:21,707 --> 00:32:24,307
Speaker 2: correcting me on that. I know Wellington took it to Levin.

582
00:32:24,627 --> 00:32:28,307
Speaker 2: Not that that's very far, is it. Oh, eight hundred

583
00:32:28,347 --> 00:32:30,707
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty's our number. It's eighteen away from

584
00:32:30,747 --> 00:32:34,107
Speaker 2: one back with more after this on Weekend Sport.

585
00:32:33,387 --> 00:32:37,107
Speaker 1: The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

586
00:32:37,147 --> 00:32:41,947
Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builders.

587
00:32:43,227 --> 00:32:45,147
Speaker 2: Caught it to one talking by ran Filly. Sure, Raebi've

588
00:32:45,147 --> 00:32:46,707
Speaker 2: go quite a few friends in Nelson. I sent one

589
00:32:46,747 --> 00:32:49,307
Speaker 2: of them this morning a text, you know the Tasman

590
00:32:49,347 --> 00:32:52,987
Speaker 2: muck or sort of call sign or slogans finns up,

591
00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:56,387
Speaker 2: you know for shark fin markl fins up. So I

592
00:32:56,427 --> 00:32:59,107
Speaker 2: just sent a text that said finns up to my

593
00:32:59,147 --> 00:33:03,667
Speaker 2: friend and Nelson. Unfortunately it auto corrected to give up.

594
00:33:05,107 --> 00:33:08,827
Speaker 2: So I got a very rude message back. Hello Neil.

595
00:33:10,707 --> 00:33:11,307
Speaker 12: Yesterday.

596
00:33:12,107 --> 00:33:17,787
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm just sitting down to the game now. Yeah,

597
00:33:16,947 --> 00:33:22,787
Speaker 14: I'm actually contenderly in fact, And when Marlborough took the

598
00:33:22,827 --> 00:33:28,187
Speaker 14: Shield in seventy three, I was sixteen then and we

599
00:33:28,187 --> 00:33:34,787
Speaker 14: were playing for near New Brighton and the young the

600
00:33:34,867 --> 00:33:38,427
Speaker 14: guys in my team say you're going to the Marlborough

601
00:33:38,467 --> 00:33:43,267
Speaker 14: Shield Challenge in seventy three in the afternoon. I says, no,

602
00:33:43,547 --> 00:33:46,227
Speaker 14: I'll wait till a toup of ones get here.

603
00:33:48,227 --> 00:33:48,707
Speaker 2: Wow.

604
00:33:49,827 --> 00:33:50,387
Speaker 10: Yeah.

605
00:33:50,467 --> 00:33:54,187
Speaker 14: And so one of my writs and Rugby that I

606
00:33:54,307 --> 00:33:58,107
Speaker 14: never got to see that game. I tried to get

607
00:33:58,147 --> 00:34:04,667
Speaker 14: it on YouTube and can't seem to get it. Yeah.

608
00:34:05,107 --> 00:34:07,867
Speaker 6: But yeah, so I.

609
00:34:07,747 --> 00:34:11,947
Speaker 14: Thought, no, I'm not going to miss out today's game.

610
00:34:12,147 --> 00:34:19,027
Speaker 14: But yeah, it looks like it could be the possible

611
00:34:20,387 --> 00:34:25,427
Speaker 14: of claud coming in, but certainly it should be all

612
00:34:25,507 --> 00:34:30,227
Speaker 14: right for the game. But yeah, yeah, no, mold. We

613
00:34:30,427 --> 00:34:34,547
Speaker 14: had it for vitually a year when they won of

614
00:34:34,667 --> 00:34:39,627
Speaker 14: the seventy three, but it wasn't quite as surprise as

615
00:34:39,667 --> 00:34:40,947
Speaker 14: what everyone.

616
00:34:41,147 --> 00:34:42,187
Speaker 6: Thought it would be.

617
00:34:42,347 --> 00:34:46,707
Speaker 14: But yeah, I think was while he was the captain

618
00:34:46,787 --> 00:34:50,667
Speaker 14: of the Canterbury team at the time, and he's actually

619
00:34:51,227 --> 00:34:52,787
Speaker 14: lives up and picked him.

620
00:34:52,587 --> 00:34:53,267
Speaker 12: Now, so.

621
00:34:54,787 --> 00:34:58,027
Speaker 14: Yeah, we might see him at the game somewhere.

622
00:34:58,187 --> 00:35:02,267
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, good man, Neil, good stuff. Well enjoy

623
00:35:02,307 --> 00:35:04,747
Speaker 2: your afternoon. I'm glad you're getting too this one. You

624
00:35:04,787 --> 00:35:07,867
Speaker 2: agrece you did, right, was cap Someone told me actually

625
00:35:07,907 --> 00:35:13,467
Speaker 2: that South when Marlborough left christ Church having won the Shield.

626
00:35:13,867 --> 00:35:17,387
Speaker 2: This may be an urban myth, but the legend has

627
00:35:17,427 --> 00:35:20,507
Speaker 2: it that they went to Gris Wiley's house and painted

628
00:35:20,507 --> 00:35:23,467
Speaker 2: his letterbox the colors of Marlborough, which are what blue

629
00:35:23,467 --> 00:35:26,507
Speaker 2: and white, doesn't matter what color they are. They painted

630
00:35:26,507 --> 00:35:31,107
Speaker 2: Gris Wiley's letterbox in Marlborough colors in the dead of

631
00:35:31,107 --> 00:35:33,667
Speaker 2: the night as they were getting out of christ Church,

632
00:35:33,827 --> 00:35:36,827
Speaker 2: and apparently Gris loved it and never changed it. I

633
00:35:36,867 --> 00:35:39,147
Speaker 2: hope he is there this afternoon. He was coach, of course,

634
00:35:39,147 --> 00:35:41,267
Speaker 2: of that Canterbury side that had it took it off

635
00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:44,907
Speaker 2: Wellington early eighties still remember that and then held on

636
00:35:44,947 --> 00:35:46,787
Speaker 2: to it until Auckland came to town in eighty five.

637
00:35:47,027 --> 00:35:49,147
Speaker 2: Enjoy your afternoon, Neil. I'm sure it'll be a cracker.

638
00:35:49,227 --> 00:35:51,787
Speaker 2: Hello Ross, yep, Hi, it gets a comment.

639
00:35:51,947 --> 00:35:54,307
Speaker 10: Is the Kaikuhr Express still alive?

640
00:35:55,627 --> 00:35:59,707
Speaker 2: The kai Cua Express? You're there? I am, yes, the

641
00:35:59,787 --> 00:36:04,667
Speaker 2: kai Cuta Express. I'm not lost.

642
00:36:04,707 --> 00:36:05,267
Speaker 13: You there? Ross?

643
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Speaker 2: Sorry, mate, I'll I think that's what you said. We'll

644
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Speaker 2: try and get some clarification. Hi, Calvin High you.

645
00:36:12,547 --> 00:36:16,787
Speaker 8: Got afternoon, Jason. First of all, one or two years

646
00:36:16,827 --> 00:36:19,987
Speaker 8: ago some numb skulls on ZV tried to make out

647
00:36:20,267 --> 00:36:24,107
Speaker 8: provincial rugby who cares? And the Rainfailly Shield? Who cares?

648
00:36:24,747 --> 00:36:26,627
Speaker 8: But there are a lot of people in the provinces.

649
00:36:26,787 --> 00:36:33,107
Speaker 8: I've always enjoyed the provincial games and likewise the Renfilly

650
00:36:33,107 --> 00:36:37,467
Speaker 8: Shield game. And I recalled when that shield was made,

651
00:36:37,787 --> 00:36:40,307
Speaker 8: well I read about it. Anyway, when it was made,

652
00:36:40,747 --> 00:36:43,227
Speaker 8: the instructions were it was going to be, you know,

653
00:36:43,267 --> 00:36:46,667
Speaker 8: like it was being made for football, and the goal

654
00:36:46,787 --> 00:36:50,587
Speaker 8: posts on it were laid out as a soccer goal

655
00:36:50,707 --> 00:36:54,587
Speaker 8: post and they had to engrave them a little bit

656
00:36:54,627 --> 00:36:57,707
Speaker 8: longer to make it look like rugby goldposts. But you

657
00:36:57,707 --> 00:37:01,187
Speaker 8: would know all about that anyway. In ninety fifty my

658
00:37:01,467 --> 00:37:04,587
Speaker 8: school teacher ninety fifty its long time going now was

659
00:37:04,667 --> 00:37:08,427
Speaker 8: Ponty Reid, and he used to be the midweek captain

660
00:37:08,467 --> 00:37:12,267
Speaker 8: of the All Blacks, and he played in the Whitecaddow team.

661
00:37:12,267 --> 00:37:19,107
Speaker 8: Here and a chap mentioned Colin Neads. When the big

662
00:37:19,147 --> 00:37:23,027
Speaker 8: time Hillcrest tavern closed up. A year or so later,

663
00:37:23,107 --> 00:37:28,427
Speaker 8: a small hilly Hillcrest opened up and the opening Colin

664
00:37:28,507 --> 00:37:30,627
Speaker 8: Meads was there and it was all free finger food.

665
00:37:30,667 --> 00:37:33,947
Speaker 8: So I went along, had a couple of beers and

666
00:37:34,467 --> 00:37:36,827
Speaker 8: Colin Neads was there and come ove and started talking

667
00:37:36,867 --> 00:37:40,307
Speaker 8: to me, and I had two or three beers with him,

668
00:37:41,027 --> 00:37:43,667
Speaker 8: and he acting away, and I think I have told

669
00:37:43,707 --> 00:37:46,747
Speaker 8: you before for you to guess who he is talking

670
00:37:46,787 --> 00:37:49,387
Speaker 8: to me about. And he was talking to me about

671
00:37:49,427 --> 00:37:54,107
Speaker 8: netball because his eldest daughter was a silver fern. So

672
00:37:54,267 --> 00:37:56,867
Speaker 8: there was a discussion then with Colin Meads. He didn't

673
00:37:56,907 --> 00:37:58,747
Speaker 8: become Knight until later on in years.

674
00:37:59,227 --> 00:38:01,467
Speaker 2: Yes, no, I know it was a bit later on. Yes, Calvin,

675
00:38:01,467 --> 00:38:03,547
Speaker 2: I think you're right about You're absolutely right about the

676
00:38:03,547 --> 00:38:06,027
Speaker 2: shield when it first arrived, because it a arrived from

677
00:38:06,027 --> 00:38:09,587
Speaker 2: over it was it was kind of ordered, I guess

678
00:38:09,627 --> 00:38:13,787
Speaker 2: you'd say, to be used as the prize, for you know,

679
00:38:13,867 --> 00:38:16,867
Speaker 2: to be used. It was. I'll read the entire sentence.

680
00:38:16,867 --> 00:38:19,107
Speaker 2: In nineteen oh one, the Governor of New Zealand, the

681
00:38:19,147 --> 00:38:23,267
Speaker 2: fifth Earl of Ranfurley, announced the presenter Cup to the

682
00:38:23,307 --> 00:38:25,667
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Union to be used as the prize

683
00:38:25,787 --> 00:38:28,947
Speaker 2: in a competition of their choosing. Now, the shield arrived

684
00:38:29,427 --> 00:38:33,707
Speaker 2: and the design on the middle of it, the centerpiece

685
00:38:34,347 --> 00:38:38,347
Speaker 2: was football soccer, so they had they had to change it,

686
00:38:38,587 --> 00:38:41,747
Speaker 2: but posts, you know, above the football posts. And I

687
00:38:41,827 --> 00:38:46,667
Speaker 2: believe the ball was round in the in the centerpiece

688
00:38:46,707 --> 00:38:48,867
Speaker 2: of it. And I don't know whether they've ever changed that,

689
00:38:48,987 --> 00:38:50,987
Speaker 2: whether they've tried to alter it. But if you see

690
00:38:50,987 --> 00:38:54,547
Speaker 2: the shield today you can actually see if you look closely,

691
00:38:54,587 --> 00:38:58,387
Speaker 2: you can actually see that it has been altered from

692
00:38:58,387 --> 00:39:01,547
Speaker 2: when it arrived as there must have been a mix

693
00:39:01,627 --> 00:39:04,067
Speaker 2: up and translation Ross, we've got you back the Kai

694
00:39:04,107 --> 00:39:06,627
Speaker 2: Cotta Express.

695
00:39:06,747 --> 00:39:08,227
Speaker 6: What do you say about the main three shield?

696
00:39:08,307 --> 00:39:09,747
Speaker 12: Is quite right, it's got a circle world in the

697
00:39:09,747 --> 00:39:10,107
Speaker 12: middle of it.

698
00:39:10,507 --> 00:39:11,027
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're there.

699
00:39:11,387 --> 00:39:14,867
Speaker 2: Yes, I am. Can you hear me? Yes, I can

700
00:39:14,907 --> 00:39:19,067
Speaker 2: hear your Ross. Can you not hear me? Roscar Harris,

701
00:39:19,107 --> 00:39:24,587
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on with Ross's phone. Eight

702
00:39:24,587 --> 00:39:26,507
Speaker 2: to one talks dB back in a month.

703
00:39:27,947 --> 00:39:30,547
Speaker 1: Let's scoop from the track fields and the court on

704
00:39:30,707 --> 00:39:34,147
Speaker 1: your HomeOS sort the weekends for it with Jason Vine

705
00:39:34,187 --> 00:39:35,227
Speaker 1: and US talks MB.

706
00:39:35,787 --> 00:39:38,387
Speaker 2: Five to one. Unfortunately we couldn't get Ross's phone working.

707
00:39:38,387 --> 00:39:40,467
Speaker 2: But I'm almost certain he was talking about the co

708
00:39:40,467 --> 00:39:44,747
Speaker 2: Coda Express, being Brian Ford, the Marlboro winger. Considering we're

709
00:39:44,747 --> 00:39:47,187
Speaker 2: talking about the ran Fury Shield, I'm almost certain that

710
00:39:47,227 --> 00:39:50,027
Speaker 2: he's talking about Brian Ford, who was nicknamed the co

711
00:39:50,027 --> 00:39:53,427
Speaker 2: Coder Express and who scored the winning try or one

712
00:39:53,427 --> 00:39:56,507
Speaker 2: of the crucial tries when Marlborough won the Shield off

713
00:39:56,587 --> 00:39:59,587
Speaker 2: Canterbury back in nineteen seventy three. The score was thirteen

714
00:39:59,587 --> 00:40:04,147
Speaker 2: to six, incidentally, and Brian Ford scored a crucial try

715
00:40:04,307 --> 00:40:09,787
Speaker 2: for Marlborough evade the defense of Fergie McCormick. No less,

716
00:40:11,307 --> 00:40:12,987
Speaker 2: are you're right, Ponte says this one. The Shield's been

717
00:40:12,987 --> 00:40:15,627
Speaker 2: altered quite a few times over the years, in fact

718
00:40:15,747 --> 00:40:18,507
Speaker 2: quite recently. Yes, I remember that. I don't think that

719
00:40:18,587 --> 00:40:20,667
Speaker 2: was to change the imagery though, I think that was

720
00:40:20,707 --> 00:40:25,347
Speaker 2: to glue it back together. Thanks, though I appreciate it. Yeah,

721
00:40:25,347 --> 00:40:27,307
Speaker 2: a lot of people saying yeah, co Cotta Express was

722
00:40:27,307 --> 00:40:31,747
Speaker 2: Brian Ford still alive and well and living in kuy

723
00:40:31,827 --> 00:40:35,547
Speaker 2: Colder according to Scotty and a very handy golfer. Good

724
00:40:35,547 --> 00:40:38,107
Speaker 2: to know, Scotty. Good to know. The ball on the

725
00:40:38,147 --> 00:40:43,507
Speaker 2: shield is still round, says this one. That blue and

726
00:40:43,587 --> 00:40:47,227
Speaker 2: yellow letterbox is still there, says Anthony. I used to

727
00:40:47,267 --> 00:40:49,827
Speaker 2: travel that road a lot, and I remember when that happened.

728
00:40:50,507 --> 00:40:53,867
Speaker 2: I was puzzled why Griz would have Otago colors on

729
00:40:53,947 --> 00:40:57,707
Speaker 2: his letter box. Anthony. Yeah, no, Malbrough collors, Maulbrokellers. I'm

730
00:40:57,747 --> 00:41:00,267
Speaker 2: so pleased that's a true story because I think it's terrific.

731
00:41:00,267 --> 00:41:04,347
Speaker 2: How would they have known the Malborough players where Gris lived.

732
00:41:04,667 --> 00:41:08,427
Speaker 2: I guess somebody gave them the heads up. I didn't

733
00:41:08,467 --> 00:41:10,387
Speaker 2: get to Jackson Garden bashup this hour, but he has

734
00:41:10,467 --> 00:41:12,347
Speaker 2: agreed to take our call just after one o'clock. Only

735
00:41:12,347 --> 00:41:15,467
Speaker 2: an out'll kick off, so it's it's quite nice of

736
00:41:15,547 --> 00:41:17,627
Speaker 2: Jackson to take our call. He's with us after one

737
00:41:17,667 --> 00:41:20,587
Speaker 2: straightaway after the news and then joined in Studio by

738
00:41:20,747 --> 00:41:21,787
Speaker 2: Hamish Kerr.

739
00:41:23,107 --> 00:41:25,987
Speaker 1: The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on

740
00:41:26,387 --> 00:41:27,547
Speaker 1: and after fields.

741
00:41:28,067 --> 00:41:28,827
Speaker 15: It's all on We.

742
00:41:28,987 --> 00:41:32,507
Speaker 1: James Ford with Jason Vane on your Home of Sport

743
00:41:33,747 --> 00:41:34,667
Speaker 1: in News Talk.

744
00:41:35,987 --> 00:41:38,627
Speaker 2: One O seven Welcome back and Hamish Curzon Studio this

745
00:41:38,707 --> 00:41:42,747
Speaker 2: hour reliving that wonderful night in Paris when he won

746
00:41:42,827 --> 00:41:45,507
Speaker 2: Olympic gold in the high jump. He's along in the

747
00:41:45,507 --> 00:41:49,347
Speaker 2: next ten minutes or so. I want to get you

748
00:41:49,787 --> 00:41:52,427
Speaker 2: down to blend him. Actually ahead of this ran Furley

749
00:41:52,547 --> 00:41:56,547
Speaker 2: Shield defense by Tasman against Wellington, I want to mop

750
00:41:56,627 --> 00:41:58,067
Speaker 2: up a few things on that as well. In just

751
00:41:58,067 --> 00:42:01,107
Speaker 2: a moment, just on Live Sport, Davis Cup tennis and

752
00:42:01,147 --> 00:42:06,027
Speaker 2: Parmeerston North, New Zealand have won the doubles over Luxembourg,

753
00:42:06,467 --> 00:42:08,787
Speaker 2: so that brings the tie back to two to one

754
00:42:08,827 --> 00:42:12,307
Speaker 2: to Luxembourg. They won both of the singles matches yesterday,

755
00:42:12,907 --> 00:42:15,547
Speaker 2: so New Zealand have to win both of the remaining

756
00:42:15,667 --> 00:42:18,547
Speaker 2: reverse singles Luxembourg on you need to win one. Will

757
00:42:18,627 --> 00:42:20,347
Speaker 2: keep an eye on that for you. From Parmerster North.

758
00:42:20,947 --> 00:42:23,907
Speaker 2: In terms of some live rugby going on and the

759
00:42:23,907 --> 00:42:27,667
Speaker 2: Fara Palmer Cup can tell you that White Cuttle have

760
00:42:27,747 --> 00:42:32,067
Speaker 2: brought up the half century against Counties Manico in Pokakobe

761
00:42:32,227 --> 00:42:34,587
Speaker 2: fifty points to twenty nine. They league with eight minutes

762
00:42:34,627 --> 00:42:37,787
Speaker 2: to go. There that's a premiership gain. There's a Championship

763
00:42:37,867 --> 00:42:40,987
Speaker 2: semi final going on at the moment at pottydo A

764
00:42:41,067 --> 00:42:45,027
Speaker 2: Park between Wellington and Otago. The winner will earn the

765
00:42:45,107 --> 00:42:48,027
Speaker 2: right to take on Monowit two in the Championship Final,

766
00:42:48,587 --> 00:42:54,747
Speaker 2: with a date to be confirmed for that. Just wait

767
00:42:54,787 --> 00:42:58,507
Speaker 2: to get an updated score. Thirty one twenty seven. The

768
00:42:58,547 --> 00:43:01,907
Speaker 2: Wellington Pride lead Otago, so tight tussle there and pottydoer

769
00:43:02,347 --> 00:43:08,107
Speaker 2: Worth ten minutes gone in the second half. Would you

770
00:43:08,107 --> 00:43:09,987
Speaker 2: please tell a very old lady what you mean by

771
00:43:10,067 --> 00:43:13,347
Speaker 2: Heartland teams? Yes, of course I can. I was talking

772
00:43:13,347 --> 00:43:16,787
Speaker 2: about the rand Furley Shield dropping into the Heartland Championship.

773
00:43:17,187 --> 00:43:21,907
Speaker 2: Is the NPC, which is the top provincial sides in

774
00:43:22,107 --> 00:43:26,027
Speaker 2: New Zealand, and then below that there is the Heartland Championship.

775
00:43:26,107 --> 00:43:31,227
Speaker 2: So in the Bunnings in PC we have the top

776
00:43:31,987 --> 00:43:35,707
Speaker 2: fourteen sides, and then in the Heartland Championship we have

777
00:43:35,907 --> 00:43:40,267
Speaker 2: all of the smaller unions from well I guess you

778
00:43:40,267 --> 00:43:43,787
Speaker 2: could say from Heartland New Zealand. And there are twelve

779
00:43:43,907 --> 00:43:47,307
Speaker 2: of those. So that's what we mean by the Heartland Championship.

780
00:43:47,307 --> 00:43:48,867
Speaker 2: Thank you for your query. Now I need to get

781
00:43:48,867 --> 00:43:53,147
Speaker 2: to the bottom of this letterbox thing. Gurus Wiley's letterbox

782
00:43:53,747 --> 00:43:57,067
Speaker 2: apparently painted by the Marlborough team as they left christ

783
00:43:57,107 --> 00:44:00,267
Speaker 2: Church with the Rand Furley shield back in nineteen seventy three.

784
00:44:00,827 --> 00:44:03,387
Speaker 2: I should have, of course known what color Marlborough where

785
00:44:03,707 --> 00:44:07,387
Speaker 2: the Red Devils. Of course I've been reminded the Red

786
00:44:07,467 --> 00:44:11,547
Speaker 2: Devil's Jason. So Grizz Wiley's letterbox was painted and Malborough

787
00:44:11,547 --> 00:44:13,507
Speaker 2: colors red. But I don't think that would have been

788
00:44:13,547 --> 00:44:16,507
Speaker 2: as effective, would it, because with him being from Canterbury

789
00:44:16,547 --> 00:44:19,387
Speaker 2: red and black it would have been you know, it

790
00:44:19,387 --> 00:44:21,587
Speaker 2: wouldn't have made as much of a statement. Anthony last

791
00:44:21,587 --> 00:44:23,907
Speaker 2: I reckons he's seen a blue and gold one. Maybe

792
00:44:23,907 --> 00:44:28,707
Speaker 2: that isn't Grizz's letterbox. So what color did they paint

793
00:44:28,707 --> 00:44:31,907
Speaker 2: his letterbox? Or is this just an entirely made up,

794
00:44:32,147 --> 00:44:35,627
Speaker 2: fictional urban myth. Need to get to the bottom of this,

795
00:44:35,787 --> 00:44:39,627
Speaker 2: if you know, let us know, oh eight hundred and

796
00:44:39,667 --> 00:44:42,147
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty or nine two nine to two on text.

797
00:44:41,987 --> 00:44:48,067
Speaker 4: Penalty Wellington and bet I figure this came over they know,

798
00:44:48,587 --> 00:44:51,707
Speaker 4: But they have won the Ranfurly Shield.

799
00:44:52,187 --> 00:44:53,987
Speaker 2: Oh, they're like getting big time.

800
00:44:54,627 --> 00:44:57,627
Speaker 4: Nineteen twelve Wellington.

801
00:44:57,547 --> 00:45:00,107
Speaker 2: Over hawks By. Yeah, so that was Wellington winning the

802
00:45:00,187 --> 00:45:03,427
Speaker 2: ran Furley Shield almost exactly two years to the day ago,

803
00:45:03,507 --> 00:45:07,587
Speaker 2: actually beating hawks Bay nineteen twelve in Napier a couple

804
00:45:07,627 --> 00:45:11,307
Speaker 2: of years ago they fended off six challenges before Hawksby

805
00:45:11,387 --> 00:45:14,147
Speaker 2: eventually won it back off them last year. Now the

806
00:45:14,147 --> 00:45:17,667
Speaker 2: Lions get another crack this afternoon. Wellington first five Jackson

807
00:45:17,667 --> 00:45:21,107
Speaker 2: Garden bashop as whether sard Jackson, thanks for taking the

808
00:45:21,107 --> 00:45:22,947
Speaker 2: call right of know you're getting close to kick off

809
00:45:22,947 --> 00:45:26,027
Speaker 2: down there. Six from six for Wellington the season. What's

810
00:45:26,067 --> 00:45:28,067
Speaker 2: beaten behind your excellent consistency?

811
00:45:28,907 --> 00:45:31,467
Speaker 16: Well, I don't know if we've been anywhere there consistent yet.

812
00:45:31,507 --> 00:45:33,907
Speaker 16: There's been some pretty ugly wins, but we've been finding

813
00:45:33,947 --> 00:45:37,507
Speaker 16: a way, which is a good thing. And we've gone

814
00:45:37,507 --> 00:45:39,827
Speaker 16: pretty deep into our squad over the last couple of games.

815
00:45:39,827 --> 00:45:43,187
Speaker 16: So you know, it hasn't always been pretty, but you're

816
00:45:43,187 --> 00:45:43,987
Speaker 16: not finding away to win.

817
00:45:44,027 --> 00:45:44,387
Speaker 6: It's good.

818
00:45:44,587 --> 00:45:46,587
Speaker 2: Why do you think that beautiful rugby has been a

819
00:45:46,587 --> 00:45:47,667
Speaker 2: bit hard to come by.

820
00:45:49,827 --> 00:45:53,107
Speaker 16: A lot due to weather for our home games. Some

821
00:45:53,187 --> 00:45:55,347
Speaker 16: of the more exciting why we played against Canterbury. It

822
00:45:55,387 --> 00:45:58,667
Speaker 16: was the first tunny day that we had. First game

823
00:45:58,707 --> 00:46:01,747
Speaker 16: against Auckland, we defended really well, had to come from

824
00:46:01,747 --> 00:46:03,467
Speaker 16: behind against monow or two. So there's been a couple

825
00:46:03,507 --> 00:46:06,267
Speaker 16: of different situations that have been put in so far

826
00:46:06,387 --> 00:46:08,347
Speaker 16: and we're sort of managed to find a way. So

827
00:46:09,307 --> 00:46:11,747
Speaker 16: that's a that's a positive for us, but you know,

828
00:46:11,787 --> 00:46:14,627
Speaker 16: we would like to start playing some consistently good rugby.

829
00:46:14,947 --> 00:46:18,027
Speaker 2: You mentioned going deep into your squadron storm week. Of course,

830
00:46:18,067 --> 00:46:20,827
Speaker 2: this is your third game in eight days. Could that

831
00:46:20,907 --> 00:46:23,147
Speaker 2: be a factor or did you did enough if you

832
00:46:23,147 --> 00:46:25,387
Speaker 2: get a rest on Wednesday night, to make sure that

833
00:46:25,427 --> 00:46:26,227
Speaker 2: it's not a factor.

834
00:46:27,547 --> 00:46:29,587
Speaker 16: I think we've been managed pretty well by the coaching

835
00:46:29,627 --> 00:46:31,547
Speaker 16: start to They put a lot of faith in any

836
00:46:31,627 --> 00:46:34,267
Speaker 16: young squad on Wednesday night against against Otago and they

837
00:46:34,267 --> 00:46:36,547
Speaker 16: did a job. And I think only two of the

838
00:46:36,587 --> 00:46:39,907
Speaker 16: boys that started that game are starting today, so everyone

839
00:46:39,987 --> 00:46:42,827
Speaker 16: should be should be ready to go. I think have you.

840
00:46:42,787 --> 00:46:45,107
Speaker 2: Tried to treat this like a normal game or have

841
00:46:45,187 --> 00:46:48,667
Speaker 2: you in fact embraced the fact that it's a shield challenge.

842
00:46:49,947 --> 00:46:51,827
Speaker 16: I think you've definitely just got to embrace it early

843
00:46:53,707 --> 00:46:56,707
Speaker 16: acknowledged how big the occasion is. How exciting it is,

844
00:46:57,067 --> 00:46:58,547
Speaker 16: how awesome is going to be to play in front

845
00:46:58,587 --> 00:47:02,387
Speaker 16: of a sold our part, But then just as quickly

846
00:47:02,467 --> 00:47:04,747
Speaker 16: you need to take it back to what's important, which

847
00:47:04,787 --> 00:47:07,467
Speaker 16: is which is our process, our game, because you know,

848
00:47:07,667 --> 00:47:10,907
Speaker 16: outside the lines, nothing's going to contribute to the win

849
00:47:11,027 --> 00:47:12,747
Speaker 16: other than the twenty three that are taking the part.

850
00:47:13,347 --> 00:47:15,307
Speaker 2: You were part of, the cell of the side, the

851
00:47:15,347 --> 00:47:17,307
Speaker 2: Wellington side that won it a couple of years back,

852
00:47:17,347 --> 00:47:18,987
Speaker 2: first time that have been in the Capitol for ages

853
00:47:18,987 --> 00:47:21,747
Speaker 2: since about nine. I think how special a moment is

854
00:47:21,787 --> 00:47:23,267
Speaker 2: it to win the ren Fury Shield.

855
00:47:25,627 --> 00:47:26,147
Speaker 7: It's awesome.

856
00:47:26,227 --> 00:47:28,707
Speaker 16: It's hard enough to get a game where we get

857
00:47:28,707 --> 00:47:31,627
Speaker 16: to play for it, let alone win it. When we

858
00:47:31,667 --> 00:47:34,187
Speaker 16: won it last time, that was our third crack at

859
00:47:34,227 --> 00:47:38,707
Speaker 16: Hawk's Bay for the shield, so you know, it was

860
00:47:38,747 --> 00:47:41,747
Speaker 16: really exciting and really satisfying.

861
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:43,947
Speaker 2: I know a few of the team were around when

862
00:47:43,947 --> 00:47:46,147
Speaker 2: you won it, and then we're there last year when

863
00:47:46,467 --> 00:47:48,987
Speaker 2: there were a bunch of defenses. But is it true

864
00:47:48,987 --> 00:47:50,347
Speaker 2: Brad Shields has never had it.

865
00:47:51,507 --> 00:47:52,427
Speaker 6: He's never held the shield.

866
00:47:52,467 --> 00:47:54,827
Speaker 16: I think he's played one game for it in twenty fourteen.

867
00:47:54,867 --> 00:47:57,027
Speaker 16: But he's pretty pump. He's pretty pumped for this one.

868
00:47:57,187 --> 00:47:59,707
Speaker 2: It's gonna say, guys done so much in his rugby

869
00:47:59,707 --> 00:48:01,267
Speaker 2: career'd be like a little kid, wouldn't he.

870
00:48:02,027 --> 00:48:04,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, that's the thing. You there's so many good

871
00:48:04,147 --> 00:48:06,107
Speaker 16: players that have played for such a long, long amount

872
00:48:06,107 --> 00:48:08,227
Speaker 16: of time and you know, never win it or never

873
00:48:08,267 --> 00:48:10,587
Speaker 16: even get to play for it. So we're we're lucky

874
00:48:10,587 --> 00:48:12,907
Speaker 16: that Tasman got it off Falks Day last week and

875
00:48:12,947 --> 00:48:14,907
Speaker 16: now and now we've we've stumbled up on a on

876
00:48:14,947 --> 00:48:17,067
Speaker 16: a challenge. So it's so exciting.

877
00:48:17,507 --> 00:48:20,227
Speaker 2: You've got Billy Proctor and Reuben Love back for this

878
00:48:20,307 --> 00:48:24,147
Speaker 2: one as well. Is there there's no danger of disruption

879
00:48:24,187 --> 00:48:25,227
Speaker 2: with those guys coming.

880
00:48:24,987 --> 00:48:27,467
Speaker 16: Back as there Now they've been a part of this

881
00:48:27,507 --> 00:48:30,267
Speaker 16: team for for a long time, you know, and that

882
00:48:30,707 --> 00:48:32,827
Speaker 16: you know, we're pretty we're pretty tight off the field

883
00:48:33,467 --> 00:48:35,067
Speaker 16: as a group and they're and they're they're a big

884
00:48:35,067 --> 00:48:36,947
Speaker 16: part of that. So it's more about just getting getting

885
00:48:36,987 --> 00:48:40,307
Speaker 16: over a little bit of detail. But they slop back

886
00:48:40,307 --> 00:48:41,107
Speaker 16: and nicely.

887
00:48:41,067 --> 00:48:44,467
Speaker 2: Okay, and beyond this, you know, it's it's just one game,

888
00:48:44,507 --> 00:48:47,067
Speaker 2: I know, but a special special trophy on the line

889
00:48:47,067 --> 00:48:50,827
Speaker 2: this afternoon. But are also equally determined to try and

890
00:48:50,867 --> 00:48:53,747
Speaker 2: lift the MPC trophy. But later on as well, one

891
00:48:53,787 --> 00:48:54,307
Speaker 2: hundred percent.

892
00:48:54,387 --> 00:48:57,107
Speaker 16: But like you say, one week at a time. Well

893
00:48:57,227 --> 00:48:59,547
Speaker 16: to get the ship the shield today and five points

894
00:49:00,947 --> 00:49:02,907
Speaker 16: and then hopefully play some good rugby and doing so.

895
00:49:03,387 --> 00:49:05,707
Speaker 2: And good news too. I know we're here to talk

896
00:49:05,707 --> 00:49:07,907
Speaker 2: about the the Shield, but you'll be back in super

897
00:49:07,947 --> 00:49:11,027
Speaker 2: rugby next year with Malwana PACIFICA great to see that news.

898
00:49:11,067 --> 00:49:11,987
Speaker 2: How did that all come about?

899
00:49:13,187 --> 00:49:13,467
Speaker 17: All right?

900
00:49:13,547 --> 00:49:16,347
Speaker 16: That's just as is a sort of a unfolded that

901
00:49:16,387 --> 00:49:18,267
Speaker 16: I was going to be coming back to New Zealand

902
00:49:18,267 --> 00:49:20,987
Speaker 16: and staying in New Zealand for the next few whiles.

903
00:49:20,987 --> 00:49:23,307
Speaker 16: Sort of the feelers out to see if anyone would

904
00:49:23,347 --> 00:49:25,147
Speaker 16: be interested in there, and they come back and they were,

905
00:49:25,227 --> 00:49:27,907
Speaker 16: and I was extremely grateful that they were, and I'm

906
00:49:27,947 --> 00:49:30,107
Speaker 16: really excited to be a part of that. I think

907
00:49:30,147 --> 00:49:33,907
Speaker 16: it's as a cool team, it's a cool movement and

908
00:49:33,947 --> 00:49:36,187
Speaker 16: they've been building something special over the last few years.

909
00:49:36,187 --> 00:49:38,787
Speaker 16: So then I'm keen to contribute as much as I

910
00:49:38,827 --> 00:49:39,227
Speaker 16: can to that.

911
00:49:39,307 --> 00:49:40,987
Speaker 2: Oh good to have that look forward to in twenty

912
00:49:40,987 --> 00:49:43,347
Speaker 2: twenty five. For the meantime, it's this afternoon. I've seen

913
00:49:43,387 --> 00:49:45,227
Speaker 2: you lead the team song. I think, well, I'm not

914
00:49:45,267 --> 00:49:47,707
Speaker 2: sure if you're in Dunedin, but certainly let the team

915
00:49:47,907 --> 00:49:50,347
Speaker 2: victory song five times. Hope you get the chance to

916
00:49:50,387 --> 00:49:51,827
Speaker 2: do it again this Stuffternoon.

917
00:49:51,467 --> 00:49:53,587
Speaker 6: Jackson, Yeah, so do I it's a good part of

918
00:49:53,627 --> 00:49:53,907
Speaker 6: the day.

919
00:49:53,987 --> 00:49:56,627
Speaker 2: Oh good on you mate, thanks for taking that call, Jackson.

920
00:49:56,627 --> 00:49:58,947
Speaker 2: Garden bashup who will line up at first five for

921
00:49:59,187 --> 00:50:03,027
Speaker 2: Wellington against Tasman this afternoon to staying try and prize

922
00:50:03,027 --> 00:50:06,187
Speaker 2: the ran Fully Shield away from the muckel who I'm

923
00:50:06,187 --> 00:50:09,107
Speaker 2: sure all were equally determined to make sure that it

924
00:50:09,187 --> 00:50:12,307
Speaker 2: stays in their region for a little while longer one

925
00:50:12,427 --> 00:50:16,627
Speaker 2: sixteen It is Celia. You've got a personal connection to

926
00:50:16,667 --> 00:50:20,587
Speaker 2: this shield game back in nineteen seventy three when Marlborough

927
00:50:20,587 --> 00:50:21,547
Speaker 2: won it off Canterbury.

928
00:50:22,827 --> 00:50:26,307
Speaker 9: Yes, Jason, my dad was Jim Stewart. He was the

929
00:50:26,347 --> 00:50:29,867
Speaker 9: coach of Canterbury over that time. Oh wow, So it

930
00:50:29,907 --> 00:50:32,107
Speaker 9: was a really big, big part of our lives. And

931
00:50:32,867 --> 00:50:35,347
Speaker 9: you know, it was a team that had Alex Wiley

932
00:50:35,387 --> 00:50:38,907
Speaker 9: and Sergie McCormack and Tanna Norton. It was a great team, Studcron.

933
00:50:38,987 --> 00:50:41,347
Speaker 9: You know, it was a pretty memorable team. But I

934
00:50:41,347 --> 00:50:43,627
Speaker 9: can still I was a teenager at the time and

935
00:50:43,667 --> 00:50:46,547
Speaker 9: I can still clearly remember when they won the shield

936
00:50:46,547 --> 00:50:48,747
Speaker 9: off Hawk's Bay, and you know, there were some thousands

937
00:50:48,747 --> 00:50:50,587
Speaker 9: and thousands of people at the airport and my dad

938
00:50:50,667 --> 00:50:53,067
Speaker 9: standing at the top of the stairs holding the shield high.

939
00:50:53,107 --> 00:50:55,947
Speaker 9: You know, it was such a wonderful moment and we

940
00:50:55,947 --> 00:50:59,107
Speaker 9: would attend all the games in that time. But and

941
00:50:59,187 --> 00:51:02,267
Speaker 9: I still also very clearly remember the Marlborough game where

942
00:51:02,267 --> 00:51:05,067
Speaker 9: we lost, as it was absolutely heartbreaking and my dad

943
00:51:05,107 --> 00:51:07,307
Speaker 9: was a lovely man, but boy, it was hard to

944
00:51:07,347 --> 00:51:11,747
Speaker 9: live with when when when he lost, Yes, we were

945
00:51:11,787 --> 00:51:13,427
Speaker 9: all a bit depressed and I looked up in the

946
00:51:13,467 --> 00:51:15,627
Speaker 9: crowd and saw some tears and then realized it was

947
00:51:15,747 --> 00:51:18,267
Speaker 9: my sister. And you know, we all knew that that

948
00:51:18,387 --> 00:51:21,907
Speaker 9: dad was going to be But I don't know about

949
00:51:21,947 --> 00:51:23,547
Speaker 9: the leather box story, but I do know that a

950
00:51:23,547 --> 00:51:26,787
Speaker 9: couple of days later we went for a family holiday

951
00:51:27,587 --> 00:51:32,027
Speaker 9: and Wiley's Bridge had been painted over to be Sutherland's Bridge,

952
00:51:32,067 --> 00:51:34,067
Speaker 9: so that because that was the captain of the of

953
00:51:34,147 --> 00:51:36,347
Speaker 9: the mule routine that took the shield, so that would

954
00:51:36,387 --> 00:51:41,987
Speaker 9: rub salt into the wound well. And truly, yeah, that

955
00:51:42,067 --> 00:51:43,907
Speaker 9: was a big part of our big part of our

956
00:51:43,947 --> 00:51:46,747
Speaker 9: lives at the time, and and it has well, you know,

957
00:51:46,787 --> 00:51:49,707
Speaker 9: we've all remained pretty keen on my dad's passed away now.

958
00:51:49,747 --> 00:51:51,627
Speaker 9: But you know, he was a pretty special man and

959
00:51:51,667 --> 00:51:54,467
Speaker 9: a great coach, and we were very proud of him.

960
00:51:54,507 --> 00:51:57,227
Speaker 9: But you know it was pretty hard of every lost game,

961
00:51:57,267 --> 00:51:58,427
Speaker 9: he took it pretty personally.

962
00:51:58,947 --> 00:52:01,387
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I think that probably happens up and down

963
00:52:01,987 --> 00:52:04,347
Speaker 2: the country, Celia, at all levels, doesn't it. You know,

964
00:52:04,507 --> 00:52:06,507
Speaker 2: I think I think people put their heart and all

965
00:52:06,547 --> 00:52:10,827
Speaker 2: into these things, as your dad, I'm absolutely positive would have. Yeah,

966
00:52:10,867 --> 00:52:13,147
Speaker 2: there's you know, that's I think that's why Well, that's

967
00:52:13,147 --> 00:52:15,747
Speaker 2: why I love sport because of the emotion involved in it.

968
00:52:15,827 --> 00:52:18,107
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it brought you as much joy as

969
00:52:18,107 --> 00:52:19,587
Speaker 2: it did heartbreak at times as well.

970
00:52:20,387 --> 00:52:23,507
Speaker 9: Absolutely absolutely so. But it was a pretty pretty special time.

971
00:52:23,547 --> 00:52:25,507
Speaker 9: It was a pretty special team. You know, those those

972
00:52:25,587 --> 00:52:28,387
Speaker 9: that that all amateurs and they practice, you know, they

973
00:52:28,427 --> 00:52:31,787
Speaker 9: were working full time and I remember one of the

974
00:52:31,827 --> 00:52:34,547
Speaker 9: Messa drive down from kai Kota every day, ye twice

975
00:52:34,547 --> 00:52:38,507
Speaker 9: a week to cut to practice and things. So you know,

976
00:52:38,587 --> 00:52:42,107
Speaker 9: they were very very dedicated team members. So name when

977
00:52:42,107 --> 00:52:45,347
Speaker 9: we sta parties at our house and of all these

978
00:52:45,427 --> 00:52:47,907
Speaker 9: of all these guys, so it was a pretty special

979
00:52:47,947 --> 00:52:49,787
Speaker 9: time really, So you would have.

980
00:52:49,747 --> 00:52:51,947
Speaker 2: You would have had. Did the shield? Did the shield

981
00:52:51,947 --> 00:52:54,067
Speaker 2: come to your house during the time that Canterbury had it?

982
00:52:54,907 --> 00:52:55,067
Speaker 15: Oh?

983
00:52:55,107 --> 00:52:57,867
Speaker 9: Absolutely yes, yeah we we we were able to take

984
00:52:57,907 --> 00:53:00,707
Speaker 9: parts with it. And in fact, even more recently when

985
00:53:00,827 --> 00:53:04,347
Speaker 9: Canterbury did have the shield, my mum was putting on

986
00:53:04,387 --> 00:53:08,027
Speaker 9: a sort of a d embily where they all had

987
00:53:08,027 --> 00:53:11,987
Speaker 9: a themed had to have a themed table crop table setting.

988
00:53:12,427 --> 00:53:14,787
Speaker 9: So we did black and black and read and we

989
00:53:15,107 --> 00:53:17,587
Speaker 9: were allowed to have the shield. So drove I drove

990
00:53:17,627 --> 00:53:24,427
Speaker 9: around with it in my boot for a while. They

991
00:53:24,507 --> 00:53:26,187
Speaker 9: let them have the shield because we did it all

992
00:53:26,227 --> 00:53:28,427
Speaker 9: and we did everything in red and black and we

993
00:53:28,467 --> 00:53:30,027
Speaker 9: had the shield sitting at the end. So it was

994
00:53:30,067 --> 00:53:32,907
Speaker 9: just for a fundraising and amblee where they were living.

995
00:53:32,987 --> 00:53:35,947
Speaker 9: But we still we hit the shield for a while.

996
00:53:36,107 --> 00:53:37,387
Speaker 6: Yeah, amazing.

997
00:53:38,387 --> 00:53:40,147
Speaker 9: Kid's got to got to have a picture with it

998
00:53:40,187 --> 00:53:41,027
Speaker 9: and all of those things.

999
00:53:41,547 --> 00:53:44,147
Speaker 2: Imagine if imagine if a good talk, imagine the places

1000
00:53:44,147 --> 00:53:47,267
Speaker 2: it's been your car, boots for starters, but imagine the

1001
00:53:47,267 --> 00:53:50,267
Speaker 2: place is that that shield has been incredible.

1002
00:53:49,827 --> 00:53:52,627
Speaker 9: Exactly exactly. It's a lot of good stories to tell.

1003
00:53:52,467 --> 00:53:52,907
Speaker 15: I'm sure.

1004
00:53:53,387 --> 00:53:55,627
Speaker 2: Indeed, see the lovely the chatter you thank you for calling,

1005
00:53:55,667 --> 00:53:56,667
Speaker 2: and I really appreciate it.

1006
00:53:57,387 --> 00:53:58,427
Speaker 9: It's a pleasure, all right.

1007
00:53:59,307 --> 00:54:01,987
Speaker 2: Have a great afternoon. By bye, there you go, Celia,

1008
00:54:02,307 --> 00:54:05,147
Speaker 2: daughter of Jim Stewart, Canterbury coach. In nineteen seventy three

1009
00:54:05,187 --> 00:54:09,027
Speaker 2: when the shield was taken by Marlborough the last time

1010
00:54:09,027 --> 00:54:11,827
Speaker 2: it was in Blenham. Obviously they held it for six

1011
00:54:11,987 --> 00:54:16,147
Speaker 2: or seven successful defenses before it was taken away from them.

1012
00:54:16,267 --> 00:54:19,707
Speaker 2: This afternoon again, the good folk of the top of

1013
00:54:19,747 --> 00:54:23,107
Speaker 2: the South have a ran fairly shield defense to look

1014
00:54:23,147 --> 00:54:25,627
Speaker 2: forward to twenty past one. We'll take a break when

1015
00:54:25,627 --> 00:54:28,267
Speaker 2: we come back. Hamish ker Olympic gold medalist in the

1016
00:54:28,307 --> 00:54:29,747
Speaker 2: high jump, joins us in studio.

1017
00:54:30,347 --> 00:54:33,867
Speaker 1: The biggest seams and stores are on Weekend Sports with

1018
00:54:34,067 --> 00:54:38,147
Speaker 1: Jason Pain and GJ. Gunnhomes New Zealand's most trusted home

1019
00:54:38,227 --> 00:54:39,907
Speaker 1: builder News Dogs'd.

1020
00:54:39,467 --> 00:54:42,307
Speaker 2: Be hamous Kerr for the gold middle.

1021
00:54:43,507 --> 00:54:50,187
Speaker 4: Kiwi's can fly and hamous Kerr scales his everest and

1022
00:54:50,347 --> 00:54:51,587
Speaker 4: his high jump.

1023
00:54:51,427 --> 00:54:57,427
Speaker 2: Olympic champion and he is away. Hamous kur sprinting around

1024
00:54:57,467 --> 00:55:00,867
Speaker 2: this arena one of the truly great sporting moments of

1025
00:55:01,027 --> 00:55:04,787
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Hamish Kurr winning Olympic gold in the

1026
00:55:04,867 --> 00:55:09,027
Speaker 2: high jump exactly five weeks ago. This morning seems a longer,

1027
00:55:09,067 --> 00:55:11,867
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Back home now and in studio with this

1028
00:55:12,147 --> 00:55:14,667
Speaker 2: Hamish Kurk. Great to see you mate, Thanks for stopping.

1029
00:55:14,707 --> 00:55:17,907
Speaker 2: And how often does your mind drift back to that

1030
00:55:18,067 --> 00:55:20,067
Speaker 2: Olympic final five weeks ago?

1031
00:55:21,347 --> 00:55:27,587
Speaker 3: A lot? Yeah, it's it's definitely a moment that's burnt

1032
00:55:27,587 --> 00:55:30,347
Speaker 3: into my mind for the rest of my life. But yeah,

1033
00:55:30,387 --> 00:55:32,467
Speaker 3: it's probably probably not in the ways that people think.

1034
00:55:32,987 --> 00:55:36,787
Speaker 3: I remember the run across the field, and I remember

1035
00:55:36,827 --> 00:55:40,947
Speaker 3: spending a lot of time in media and and and

1036
00:55:40,987 --> 00:55:44,507
Speaker 3: doping and and various other things afterwards, and then and

1037
00:55:44,547 --> 00:55:45,707
Speaker 3: then spending time with my family.

1038
00:55:46,467 --> 00:55:48,907
Speaker 2: The run across the field was that that that can't

1039
00:55:48,907 --> 00:55:51,227
Speaker 2: have been premeditated? Was that just spur of the moment

1040
00:55:51,307 --> 00:55:52,707
Speaker 2: adrenaline rush?

1041
00:55:52,867 --> 00:55:57,947
Speaker 3: Ah, it was a little bit premunitated. I so, so

1042
00:55:58,187 --> 00:56:00,467
Speaker 3: athletics has got this thing. So there's obviously a lot

1043
00:56:00,507 --> 00:56:02,667
Speaker 3: going on in the stadium, and that's that's something that's

1044
00:56:02,667 --> 00:56:04,307
Speaker 3: massive for our sports. It's really cool, you know, you

1045
00:56:04,387 --> 00:56:07,427
Speaker 3: get to go along and and just watch all these

1046
00:56:07,427 --> 00:56:09,627
Speaker 3: events happening at once. Most people say, like, man, I

1047
00:56:09,627 --> 00:56:11,947
Speaker 3: didn't realize how busy it was, and it is. It's

1048
00:56:11,947 --> 00:56:15,747
Speaker 3: just hectic, but in saying that, like, the middle of

1049
00:56:15,747 --> 00:56:19,507
Speaker 3: the field is never used. It's it's javelin, it's discuss it,

1050
00:56:19,667 --> 00:56:21,387
Speaker 3: it's the long throwers get thrown into the middle of

1051
00:56:21,387 --> 00:56:24,427
Speaker 3: the field. But because of that, no athletes even go

1052
00:56:24,467 --> 00:56:27,547
Speaker 3: in there, and so you're only kind of involving like

1053
00:56:27,627 --> 00:56:30,227
Speaker 3: one portion of the stadium at any given moment. And

1054
00:56:30,307 --> 00:56:33,387
Speaker 3: so typically in a high jump, obviously being at one

1055
00:56:33,387 --> 00:56:35,267
Speaker 3: side of the stadium, if I was to, like when

1056
00:56:35,307 --> 00:56:37,267
Speaker 3: the competition or something big was happened, I'd run towards

1057
00:56:37,267 --> 00:56:39,747
Speaker 3: the crowd, and that would then mean that the rest

1058
00:56:39,787 --> 00:56:43,867
Speaker 3: of the stadium is not involved anymore. And knowing that

1059
00:56:43,907 --> 00:56:45,347
Speaker 3: it was right at the end of the at the

1060
00:56:45,387 --> 00:56:51,027
Speaker 3: meat the entire stadium was clapping and getting behind the

1061
00:56:51,107 --> 00:56:54,507
Speaker 3: jump off, I just think it was fitting to instead

1062
00:56:54,507 --> 00:56:56,747
Speaker 3: of running towards one side, running right into the middle,

1063
00:56:57,027 --> 00:56:59,347
Speaker 3: because because then everyone could sort of get a bit

1064
00:56:59,347 --> 00:57:02,067
Speaker 3: of a taste and celebrate with me. So, yeah, was

1065
00:57:02,467 --> 00:57:05,467
Speaker 3: a little bit a little bit premutiated. I did have

1066
00:57:05,507 --> 00:57:08,587
Speaker 3: to wait for the javelin finish, and that had finished

1067
00:57:09,747 --> 00:57:12,307
Speaker 3: a few minutes before I did my last jump, and

1068
00:57:12,347 --> 00:57:14,347
Speaker 3: I sort of I had noticed that it had finished,

1069
00:57:14,667 --> 00:57:17,147
Speaker 3: and so I knew that it was time to clear

1070
00:57:17,187 --> 00:57:18,507
Speaker 3: that last jump and run.

1071
00:57:18,947 --> 00:57:19,267
Speaker 2: Loved it.

1072
00:57:19,347 --> 00:57:19,507
Speaker 18: Mate.

1073
00:57:19,747 --> 00:57:21,827
Speaker 2: Iconic moment. Iconic moment. I remember speaking to you. I

1074
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:23,787
Speaker 2: think it was about one in the morning Paris, time

1075
00:57:24,787 --> 00:57:27,787
Speaker 2: you'd done so much media and stuff. What time did

1076
00:57:27,867 --> 00:57:29,507
Speaker 2: you actually get to bed?

1077
00:57:31,667 --> 00:57:35,427
Speaker 3: I got to bed at probably six thirty?

1078
00:57:35,707 --> 00:57:35,987
Speaker 13: Wow.

1079
00:57:37,307 --> 00:57:40,747
Speaker 3: So yeah, So left the stadium finish, finished event at

1080
00:57:40,827 --> 00:57:46,907
Speaker 3: about nine, left the stadium at two, and then just

1081
00:57:46,947 --> 00:57:51,907
Speaker 3: straight to my girlfriend and siblings Airbnb. So they were

1082
00:57:51,907 --> 00:57:54,107
Speaker 3: actually staying like really close by, so I was able

1083
00:57:54,147 --> 00:57:56,747
Speaker 3: to just walk, which was super nice, and then hang

1084
00:57:56,787 --> 00:57:58,947
Speaker 3: out with them. They were probably more excited than I

1085
00:57:59,027 --> 00:58:00,987
Speaker 3: was at that point. I was kind of just in shock,

1086
00:58:01,587 --> 00:58:03,027
Speaker 3: just sitting in the corner, kind of steering at my

1087
00:58:03,027 --> 00:58:05,507
Speaker 3: middle and they were just bouncing around off the walls

1088
00:58:05,827 --> 00:58:07,827
Speaker 3: and then and then eventually got to be at about

1089
00:58:07,827 --> 00:58:08,347
Speaker 3: six thirty.

1090
00:58:08,707 --> 00:58:10,907
Speaker 2: They talk about these things sinking in. Was there a

1091
00:58:10,947 --> 00:58:14,507
Speaker 2: point at which you realized the magnitude of what you'd achieved?

1092
00:58:15,107 --> 00:58:15,307
Speaker 1: Oh?

1093
00:58:15,547 --> 00:58:18,507
Speaker 3: Yes to No, Like, I mean, I think for me

1094
00:58:18,547 --> 00:58:22,187
Speaker 3: it feels strangely normal, like it It's obviously there's waves

1095
00:58:22,187 --> 00:58:24,667
Speaker 3: of motion, and there's there's times where you kind of

1096
00:58:24,667 --> 00:58:27,867
Speaker 3: do have to check yourself and kind of really listen

1097
00:58:27,907 --> 00:58:29,427
Speaker 3: to your body. And I think there's going to be

1098
00:58:29,467 --> 00:58:31,587
Speaker 3: a lot of that in the next next few months,

1099
00:58:31,827 --> 00:58:34,627
Speaker 3: as just riding those waves of intense emotion, you know,

1100
00:58:34,827 --> 00:58:37,547
Speaker 3: the highs and lows. But yeah, at the same time,

1101
00:58:38,147 --> 00:58:39,707
Speaker 3: you know, we put a really good plan in place,

1102
00:58:39,747 --> 00:58:41,987
Speaker 3: and we were really kind of strict on what we

1103
00:58:41,987 --> 00:58:44,547
Speaker 3: were trying to achieve going into that games, and so

1104
00:58:44,627 --> 00:58:47,227
Speaker 3: because of that, I think, I think it does feel

1105
00:58:47,467 --> 00:58:49,067
Speaker 3: like it's sunk and because it felt like what we

1106
00:58:49,067 --> 00:58:49,787
Speaker 3: were trying to achieve.

1107
00:58:50,147 --> 00:58:53,067
Speaker 2: One of your great lines afterwards, qualifying was Qualifying sucks.

1108
00:58:53,787 --> 00:58:57,027
Speaker 2: It's easy to forget. Man, what two misses at two twenty.

1109
00:58:57,667 --> 00:58:59,747
Speaker 2: How did you manage your way through that third jump

1110
00:58:59,827 --> 00:59:01,307
Speaker 2: and qualifying at two twenty?

1111
00:59:01,827 --> 00:59:05,147
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, qualifying, That's what I'll never forget as well,

1112
00:59:05,747 --> 00:59:10,547
Speaker 3: that feeling of sitting there after that second attempt. So

1113
00:59:10,587 --> 00:59:13,947
Speaker 3: the first attempt was just a bad jump, you know,

1114
00:59:14,347 --> 00:59:19,227
Speaker 3: you have that the second attempt, I stumbled through the

1115
00:59:19,267 --> 00:59:21,027
Speaker 3: middle of my run up because I was so nervous.

1116
00:59:21,547 --> 00:59:24,747
Speaker 3: My legs kind of just gave out. And then you're

1117
00:59:24,787 --> 00:59:27,907
Speaker 3: kind of sitting there, going this has happened, and the

1118
00:59:27,987 --> 00:59:31,947
Speaker 3: two previous World champs failed to make the final. This

1119
00:59:32,147 --> 00:59:35,147
Speaker 3: is at a lower height than either of those complete

1120
00:59:35,227 --> 00:59:38,707
Speaker 3: catastrophic disasters, so this would have been even worse. And

1121
00:59:39,027 --> 00:59:43,147
Speaker 3: it's the one that I was an amazing shape going into.

1122
00:59:43,707 --> 00:59:47,467
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, part of me was sitting there thinking,

1123
00:59:47,827 --> 00:59:50,507
Speaker 3: maybe I don't have the goods, maybe I'm not you know,

1124
00:59:50,867 --> 00:59:53,187
Speaker 3: maybe there's just something missing, Maybe there's just a little

1125
00:59:53,187 --> 00:59:54,667
Speaker 3: bit of me that will never be able to get

1126
00:59:54,707 --> 00:59:58,947
Speaker 3: up for these really important moments. But then you go

1127
00:59:58,947 --> 01:00:01,867
Speaker 3: back to process and you pull yourself out of that

1128
01:00:01,907 --> 01:00:04,267
Speaker 3: and you kind of remove yourself from the emotions. Those

1129
01:00:04,307 --> 01:00:07,347
Speaker 3: emotions don't really mean anything I met on the big

1130
01:00:07,467 --> 01:00:10,187
Speaker 3: the big stage. They just they just your body trying

1131
01:00:10,227 --> 01:00:12,587
Speaker 3: to give you an exit strategy. And so so I

1132
01:00:12,667 --> 01:00:15,547
Speaker 3: just got back to my breathing and my visualization and

1133
01:00:15,867 --> 01:00:18,627
Speaker 3: just tried to visualize the jumps as objectively as possible.

1134
01:00:19,867 --> 01:00:23,867
Speaker 3: And yeah, I just looked at my coach and he

1135
01:00:23,867 --> 01:00:25,947
Speaker 3: he was got me through that. I mean, you know,

1136
01:00:26,027 --> 01:00:27,707
Speaker 3: I I was looking at him going like, am I

1137
01:00:27,707 --> 01:00:29,467
Speaker 3: going to be able to do this? And he's like, yeah,

1138
01:00:29,467 --> 01:00:31,587
Speaker 3: of course you are, Like You've done this, this is

1139
01:00:31,627 --> 01:00:33,987
Speaker 3: just what you do, Like you can do this and

1140
01:00:34,267 --> 01:00:36,347
Speaker 3: being able to look at him and know that, I mean,

1141
01:00:36,387 --> 01:00:38,427
Speaker 3: I was already crying, like it was. It was just

1142
01:00:38,507 --> 01:00:42,747
Speaker 3: like such an emotional time for me. And yes, it's

1143
01:00:42,787 --> 01:00:44,507
Speaker 3: just so weird because it's you know, that was probably

1144
01:00:44,507 --> 01:00:46,427
Speaker 3: the lowest point in my career potentially could have been.

1145
01:00:46,747 --> 01:00:48,307
Speaker 3: It probably probably would have been the end of my

1146
01:00:48,347 --> 01:00:51,387
Speaker 3: career if I hadn't cleared that. And yet you know,

1147
01:00:51,947 --> 01:00:54,067
Speaker 3: you you fast forwards six weeks and that's just a

1148
01:00:54,067 --> 01:00:54,987
Speaker 3: completely different picture.

1149
01:00:55,147 --> 01:00:58,587
Speaker 2: That is incredible insight, man, because all the stuff you've

1150
01:00:58,627 --> 01:01:01,467
Speaker 2: just told told us there would would lead to a

1151
01:01:01,547 --> 01:01:03,747
Speaker 2: natural conclusion that you missed the third one. You know

1152
01:01:03,827 --> 01:01:08,027
Speaker 2: that you're doubting yourself, got self doubt in the biggest moment, man,

1153
01:01:08,067 --> 01:01:10,147
Speaker 2: And then and then you clear and then and then

1154
01:01:10,427 --> 01:01:12,667
Speaker 2: you're over at two twenty seven and qualifying later on

1155
01:01:12,707 --> 01:01:14,867
Speaker 2: you jump to thirty six. What is it about the

1156
01:01:14,947 --> 01:01:17,547
Speaker 2: sport that allows you to jump to thirty six but

1157
01:01:17,627 --> 01:01:20,707
Speaker 2: sometimes miss sometimes miss two twenty I.

1158
01:01:20,707 --> 01:01:23,187
Speaker 3: Think it just goes to show how much timing is important.

1159
01:01:24,067 --> 01:01:26,987
Speaker 3: You know, we obviously do a lot of training and

1160
01:01:27,067 --> 01:01:28,947
Speaker 3: you try and get as strong and as fast and

1161
01:01:28,987 --> 01:01:31,587
Speaker 3: as physically gifted as possible, and you want to really

1162
01:01:31,587 --> 01:01:34,627
Speaker 3: build those those metrics, but at the end of the day,

1163
01:01:34,627 --> 01:01:37,827
Speaker 3: if you can't put it down, you know, it doesn't

1164
01:01:37,827 --> 01:01:39,987
Speaker 3: really count for anything. So I think that's the biggest

1165
01:01:39,987 --> 01:01:44,307
Speaker 3: thing for high jump especially is it's so so timing base.

1166
01:01:44,387 --> 01:01:47,227
Speaker 3: You can't just push harder, you have to actually push better,

1167
01:01:48,027 --> 01:01:50,547
Speaker 3: and so it's not just a case of like just

1168
01:01:50,787 --> 01:01:53,027
Speaker 3: digging in and really going for it. You actually have

1169
01:01:53,067 --> 01:01:55,427
Speaker 3: to be thinking the whole time around what that looks

1170
01:01:55,467 --> 01:01:57,947
Speaker 3: like and how your technique needs to change based on that.

1171
01:01:58,067 --> 01:02:00,267
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's a bit of a mind game,

1172
01:02:00,987 --> 01:02:02,867
Speaker 3: but it's a it's a pretty fun part of our sport.

1173
01:02:02,947 --> 01:02:04,627
Speaker 2: Because you have two misses at two thirty one in

1174
01:02:04,627 --> 01:02:07,947
Speaker 2: the final as well, what happened in qualifying help you

1175
01:02:08,307 --> 01:02:10,787
Speaker 2: negotiate the third jump at two thirty one, because must

1176
01:02:10,787 --> 01:02:11,707
Speaker 2: that you don't get a met.

1177
01:02:11,547 --> 01:02:16,747
Speaker 3: All right, Look, I mean those mustagen in qualifying at

1178
01:02:16,747 --> 01:02:18,627
Speaker 3: two twenty that was the hardest point in my life.

1179
01:02:19,227 --> 01:02:23,427
Speaker 3: And to go through that with the techniques that we

1180
01:02:23,507 --> 01:02:26,587
Speaker 3: had and the work that we've done, and be able

1181
01:02:26,587 --> 01:02:28,347
Speaker 3: to use that work to actually get me through that.

1182
01:02:29,067 --> 01:02:31,627
Speaker 3: It actually made the rest of the competition easy. You

1183
01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:35,427
Speaker 3: know that two thirty one. I knew that it was

1184
01:02:35,427 --> 01:02:37,107
Speaker 3: in me. It was just a matter of putting it down,

1185
01:02:38,227 --> 01:02:41,107
Speaker 3: and then the jump off was just an amazing experience

1186
01:02:41,187 --> 01:02:44,387
Speaker 3: regardless as a results. So yeah, I feel like once

1187
01:02:44,427 --> 01:02:48,107
Speaker 3: I did that qualifying jump, yeah, it was just about

1188
01:02:48,107 --> 01:02:49,987
Speaker 3: digging myself back out of that hole and just getting

1189
01:02:49,987 --> 01:02:50,267
Speaker 3: on with it.

1190
01:02:50,507 --> 01:02:50,627
Speaker 15: Now.

1191
01:02:50,627 --> 01:02:52,427
Speaker 2: Can you put to bed any rumors about the jump

1192
01:02:52,427 --> 01:02:56,147
Speaker 2: off with Shelby m cuand who got asked first? Did

1193
01:02:56,187 --> 01:02:58,787
Speaker 2: anybody say, yeah, hey, let's share it? Well, can you

1194
01:02:58,227 --> 01:03:01,587
Speaker 2: give us the actual version of events?

1195
01:03:01,747 --> 01:03:01,987
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1196
01:03:01,987 --> 01:03:03,507
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I don't think I'll ever be putting

1197
01:03:03,507 --> 01:03:05,467
Speaker 3: this fully to bed. You know, it doesn't matter how

1198
01:03:05,467 --> 01:03:07,267
Speaker 3: many times I talk about it that there's there's always

1199
01:03:07,307 --> 01:03:11,787
Speaker 3: people who can can misconstrue it. But no, what happened

1200
01:03:12,027 --> 01:03:16,947
Speaker 3: was so I we we knew that we were we

1201
01:03:16,947 --> 01:03:20,067
Speaker 3: were even. I didn't realize we're even until about halfway

1202
01:03:20,067 --> 01:03:22,747
Speaker 3: through the two thirty eight round, which is which is

1203
01:03:22,787 --> 01:03:25,987
Speaker 3: the one that we ultimately both missed and therefore triggered

1204
01:03:25,987 --> 01:03:28,107
Speaker 3: the jump off. So I was kind of going back

1205
01:03:28,147 --> 01:03:29,987
Speaker 3: and forth with the officials being like, oh, what's the score?

1206
01:03:30,027 --> 01:03:32,827
Speaker 3: Like what's where are we actually at? But with about

1207
01:03:32,827 --> 01:03:34,947
Speaker 3: two jumps, well two jumps to go in that round.

1208
01:03:35,027 --> 01:03:37,747
Speaker 3: I realized that that we were equal and there was

1209
01:03:37,787 --> 01:03:39,347
Speaker 3: a real chance we were going to a jump off.

1210
01:03:39,587 --> 01:03:42,907
Speaker 3: He had just done two personal bests. I think I

1211
01:03:42,947 --> 01:03:45,107
Speaker 3: switched off just a little bit, which was which was

1212
01:03:45,107 --> 01:03:47,667
Speaker 3: probably I was guilty of that on my part, but

1213
01:03:47,747 --> 01:03:50,387
Speaker 3: at the same time, you know, I knew I'd get

1214
01:03:50,387 --> 01:03:52,747
Speaker 3: a back, just depended on whether it would be at

1215
01:03:52,747 --> 01:03:55,747
Speaker 3: that round. So I came off the mat. I was

1216
01:03:55,827 --> 01:03:57,627
Speaker 3: jumping second, so he had already done his third attempt

1217
01:03:57,627 --> 01:03:59,107
Speaker 3: here was already at so I was kind of all

1218
01:03:59,147 --> 01:04:00,787
Speaker 3: on me. And that's that's where that famous jump with

1219
01:04:00,827 --> 01:04:02,987
Speaker 3: me jumping under the bar came from, because I I

1220
01:04:03,347 --> 01:04:06,027
Speaker 3: just got my time wrong and pushed two hards. So

1221
01:04:06,027 --> 01:04:09,987
Speaker 3: so yeah, kind of did that, got off the mat,

1222
01:04:10,387 --> 01:04:12,547
Speaker 3: walked over to Shelby, locked him in the eyes. He

1223
01:04:12,547 --> 01:04:17,787
Speaker 3: was already standing there with the officials, and yeah, you

1224
01:04:17,867 --> 01:04:20,707
Speaker 3: kind of have this moment of like what's going to

1225
01:04:20,787 --> 01:04:22,507
Speaker 3: go on, Like what's happening here? Like you know, what

1226
01:04:22,547 --> 01:04:25,067
Speaker 3: do you think? What I thinking? And I just nodded

1227
01:04:25,107 --> 01:04:28,307
Speaker 3: at him. I was like, least jump and he's like yeah,

1228
01:04:28,387 --> 01:04:30,427
Speaker 3: and so and that was you know it wasn't It

1229
01:04:30,467 --> 01:04:32,227
Speaker 3: wasn't drawn out, there wasn't a big chat. It was

1230
01:04:32,307 --> 01:04:35,027
Speaker 3: just let's jump and and and we did that. So yeah,

1231
01:04:35,027 --> 01:04:39,187
Speaker 3: I think obviously, you know, you could look at that

1232
01:04:39,267 --> 01:04:41,027
Speaker 3: a lot of different ways, and a lot of people have.

1233
01:04:41,147 --> 01:04:42,707
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think that was really

1234
01:04:42,747 --> 01:04:46,307
Speaker 3: futting that in Tokyo, we you know, we got to

1235
01:04:46,387 --> 01:04:50,227
Speaker 3: experience them sharing it, but I think this time there

1236
01:04:50,267 --> 01:04:51,707
Speaker 3: was no way we're going to share it. It was

1237
01:04:51,747 --> 01:04:53,787
Speaker 3: it was definitely a case of wanting to know who

1238
01:04:54,707 --> 01:04:57,747
Speaker 3: who was who was the best, And I was more

1239
01:04:57,787 --> 01:05:00,107
Speaker 3: happy I'd already come to terms with it, like I'd

1240
01:05:00,147 --> 01:05:02,707
Speaker 3: already kind of talked with that with my team, and

1241
01:05:02,827 --> 01:05:05,027
Speaker 3: the potential of going to jump off, which is it's

1242
01:05:05,067 --> 01:05:07,347
Speaker 3: impossibly low, like it's it's not even a conversation you

1243
01:05:07,347 --> 01:05:09,707
Speaker 3: should be having because it just never happens in competitions.

1244
01:05:09,707 --> 01:05:11,467
Speaker 3: Are the only two competitions I've ever been a part

1245
01:05:11,507 --> 01:05:12,747
Speaker 3: of which I have gone to a jump off of

1246
01:05:12,747 --> 01:05:16,387
Speaker 3: the two Olympic finals, And so for me, I was

1247
01:05:16,427 --> 01:05:19,027
Speaker 3: at peace worth the fact that I would rather come

1248
01:05:19,227 --> 01:05:22,747
Speaker 3: second and a jump off and no than not know.

1249
01:05:24,427 --> 01:05:28,187
Speaker 2: One of the co gold medal holders from Tokyo Mutaz

1250
01:05:28,427 --> 01:05:31,307
Speaker 2: is a Bashine from Kata. He was jumping brilliantly.

1251
01:05:31,347 --> 01:05:31,467
Speaker 14: Man.

1252
01:05:31,507 --> 01:05:33,627
Speaker 2: Every time I watched him jump, he was just miles

1253
01:05:33,667 --> 01:05:36,987
Speaker 2: over imperious. Then he missed twice at two thirty six

1254
01:05:37,027 --> 01:05:40,267
Speaker 2: paston and missed at thirty eight. So give us some

1255
01:05:40,307 --> 01:05:42,747
Speaker 2: insight there, what happened to him at those higher heights?

1256
01:05:43,227 --> 01:05:46,227
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Basham's he's one of the greatest high

1257
01:05:46,267 --> 01:05:49,547
Speaker 3: jumpers of all time. He's got second highest height in

1258
01:05:49,627 --> 01:05:52,387
Speaker 3: terms of personal best. He's jumped two forty three. So

1259
01:05:52,387 --> 01:05:54,347
Speaker 3: I jumped two thirty six in the Olympic finals. Jumped

1260
01:05:54,347 --> 01:05:57,867
Speaker 3: two forty three, which is just just mind blowing. He

1261
01:05:57,947 --> 01:06:00,467
Speaker 3: jumped to forty at like ten years in a row.

1262
01:06:01,227 --> 01:06:03,187
Speaker 3: But he's old, like he's coming to the end of

1263
01:06:03,227 --> 01:06:07,427
Speaker 3: his career. He's he's already indicated he was that was

1264
01:06:07,467 --> 01:06:10,227
Speaker 3: going to be his last Olympics. He's done four and

1265
01:06:10,267 --> 01:06:12,827
Speaker 3: he's meddled at every single one of them. So for him,

1266
01:06:13,427 --> 01:06:15,787
Speaker 3: you know, I competed against them all season. He's an

1267
01:06:15,787 --> 01:06:18,827
Speaker 3: amazing high jump. He looks just so beautiful, but he

1268
01:06:18,907 --> 01:06:22,267
Speaker 3: does kind of potentially lack that kind of top end

1269
01:06:22,867 --> 01:06:24,307
Speaker 3: that he that he used to have, and so you

1270
01:06:24,347 --> 01:06:26,587
Speaker 3: know that kind of sixth gear that you would reach for,

1271
01:06:27,187 --> 01:06:29,627
Speaker 3: and those moments he just doesn't quite have anymore. And

1272
01:06:29,667 --> 01:06:32,547
Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean I always saw him as a threat,

1273
01:06:32,587 --> 01:06:35,387
Speaker 3: but I think that the way that I was, the

1274
01:06:35,427 --> 01:06:37,667
Speaker 3: way that he was jumping, you kind of knew that

1275
01:06:37,707 --> 01:06:40,307
Speaker 3: there was only so many jumps on him. And so yeah,

1276
01:06:40,307 --> 01:06:42,187
Speaker 3: I think I think once he once he did that

1277
01:06:42,187 --> 01:06:45,867
Speaker 3: two thirty four and went up two thirty six, so

1278
01:06:45,867 --> 01:06:47,347
Speaker 3: you kind of knew that that it was all over

1279
01:06:47,347 --> 01:06:50,987
Speaker 3: from two forty. No, it's jumped it for ages. You reckon,

1280
01:06:50,987 --> 01:06:53,627
Speaker 3: you're still got that two forty in you. Yeah, yeah,

1281
01:06:53,667 --> 01:06:56,707
Speaker 3: it's it's definitely the next goal. I think. I think

1282
01:06:56,707 --> 01:06:58,627
Speaker 3: for me, you know, how do you how do you

1283
01:06:58,787 --> 01:07:01,187
Speaker 3: kind of reframe a career when when you've kind of

1284
01:07:01,227 --> 01:07:03,947
Speaker 3: won it all. It's sort of a weird place to

1285
01:07:03,987 --> 01:07:05,787
Speaker 3: be in the place that I didn't really ever think

1286
01:07:05,827 --> 01:07:07,947
Speaker 3: I would be in. But for me, the reason I

1287
01:07:07,987 --> 01:07:11,867
Speaker 3: got into athletics is just this ability to be able

1288
01:07:11,907 --> 01:07:15,187
Speaker 3: to constantly push to be better, and you know, the

1289
01:07:15,427 --> 01:07:18,347
Speaker 3: feeling of doing personal bests, whether it was one sixty

1290
01:07:18,347 --> 01:07:20,507
Speaker 3: five and year eight or one seventy eight and year nine,

1291
01:07:20,627 --> 01:07:23,627
Speaker 3: or or you know, two thirty six and twenty twenty four.

1292
01:07:23,667 --> 01:07:25,987
Speaker 3: It's it's such a special feeling and you know, it's

1293
01:07:26,027 --> 01:07:28,227
Speaker 3: just that feeling of never having done something before and

1294
01:07:28,427 --> 01:07:30,947
Speaker 3: then finally achieving it. So yeah, it's it's still what

1295
01:07:31,027 --> 01:07:33,147
Speaker 3: gets me up every morning. And I think two forty

1296
01:07:33,187 --> 01:07:34,227
Speaker 3: is going to be that next barrier.

1297
01:07:34,267 --> 01:07:36,987
Speaker 2: Fantastic. You got a bit of a break, have you now? Yeah?

1298
01:07:37,107 --> 01:07:40,507
Speaker 3: Yeah I do. Yeah, I'm not training for the I'm

1299
01:07:40,507 --> 01:07:42,747
Speaker 3: trying not to think about it, but probably November I'll

1300
01:07:42,747 --> 01:07:43,867
Speaker 3: start again, mate.

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01:07:43,867 --> 01:07:46,467
Speaker 2: Great to see your iconic moment, my favorite moment of

1302
01:07:46,507 --> 01:07:48,667
Speaker 2: the Olympic Games. It's been amazing chatting to you and

1303
01:07:48,707 --> 01:07:51,427
Speaker 2: the lead up and then watching you do it just sensational.

1304
01:07:51,667 --> 01:07:53,507
Speaker 2: Enjoy a bit of a break, Great to chat to you.

1305
01:07:53,587 --> 01:07:55,867
Speaker 2: Thanks for popping in, cheers, Ponting, thanks each ma, No,

1306
01:07:55,947 --> 01:07:58,707
Speaker 2: thank you mate. That is a Hamish Kerr Olympic high

1307
01:07:58,787 --> 01:08:02,867
Speaker 2: jump gold medalist from Paris twenty twenty four. What incredible

1308
01:08:02,867 --> 01:08:06,987
Speaker 2: insight there, Nick on text mate, that moment, that moment

1309
01:08:07,107 --> 01:08:10,347
Speaker 2: right there, two jumps down career on the line from

1310
01:08:10,387 --> 01:08:13,067
Speaker 2: there to a gold medal. That's what champions are made of.

1311
01:08:13,387 --> 01:08:16,627
Speaker 2: Thanks for that moment, Hamish. Indeed, so say all of us,

1312
01:08:17,427 --> 01:08:20,907
Speaker 2: you do forget. I don't think i'd forgotten necessarily, but

1313
01:08:20,947 --> 01:08:27,067
Speaker 2: I remember when Hamish Kerr had jumped two or I

1314
01:08:27,067 --> 01:08:30,107
Speaker 2: had missed two twenty twice in qualifying, and it's like,

1315
01:08:30,147 --> 01:08:33,547
Speaker 2: he's got one more chance at this. If he misses here,

1316
01:08:33,667 --> 01:08:37,827
Speaker 2: he's not even in the final. This isn't qualifying. He'd

1317
01:08:37,867 --> 01:08:42,027
Speaker 2: missed it two twenty twice, a height that ordinarily he

1318
01:08:42,147 --> 01:08:45,387
Speaker 2: clears easily. It's incredible. What pressure does to you, what

1319
01:08:45,427 --> 01:08:47,467
Speaker 2: competition does to you. And listen to him talk there

1320
01:08:49,107 --> 01:08:52,387
Speaker 2: saying that he would have that would have been it

1321
01:08:52,867 --> 01:08:55,867
Speaker 2: if he had missed that jump at two twenty the

1322
01:08:55,987 --> 01:09:00,307
Speaker 2: third in qualifying and not qualified for the final. He

1323
01:09:00,387 --> 01:09:04,587
Speaker 2: said it just then, that would probably have been it.

1324
01:09:07,267 --> 01:09:10,307
Speaker 2: Amazing from there, as Nick just said in that text

1325
01:09:10,547 --> 01:09:13,387
Speaker 2: to a gold medal, talk about a pivotal moment. Yeah,

1326
01:09:13,427 --> 01:09:17,427
Speaker 2: Ams Kerr, he was already it, already had teas INA's

1327
01:09:17,467 --> 01:09:22,987
Speaker 2: eyes and yet somehow found it within himself to clear it.

1328
01:09:23,787 --> 01:09:28,547
Speaker 2: Astonishing nice gold medal too. Hamish Kerr with us on

1329
01:09:28,587 --> 01:09:32,387
Speaker 2: Weekend Sport, brilliant stuff twenty two away from two on

1330
01:09:32,507 --> 01:09:34,227
Speaker 2: News Talk said b we're back in a sec We're

1331
01:09:34,267 --> 01:09:36,747
Speaker 2: in Blenheim setting the scene for the Shield Challenge again

1332
01:09:36,787 --> 01:09:37,347
Speaker 2: this afternoon.

1333
01:09:38,027 --> 01:09:43,187
Speaker 1: Don't get caught offside weekends for us with Jason Paine

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Speaker 4: Top towards the uprights and that's over, Jasmine, Jasmine, when

1337
01:09:58,867 --> 01:09:59,867
Speaker 4: for ren fairly?

1338
01:10:00,067 --> 01:10:00,427
Speaker 8: Shield?

1339
01:10:00,547 --> 01:10:02,027
Speaker 2: Now do I reckon the liver? Gets sick of listening

1340
01:10:02,107 --> 01:10:04,547
Speaker 2: to that. Top of the South A huge supporter of

1341
01:10:04,667 --> 01:10:08,427
Speaker 2: rugby in the Tasman region is Nelson businessman Shane Drummond.

1342
01:10:08,707 --> 01:10:12,267
Speaker 2: Former Tasman President board member now a life member, has

1343
01:10:12,347 --> 01:10:14,787
Speaker 2: done a massive amount for rugby in the Top of

1344
01:10:14,827 --> 01:10:17,627
Speaker 2: the South and for the community as well. He's at

1345
01:10:17,707 --> 01:10:20,827
Speaker 2: the game or about to watch the game unfold Drummy,

1346
01:10:20,827 --> 01:10:22,947
Speaker 2: how are the nerves, oh.

1347
01:10:22,947 --> 01:10:25,827
Speaker 13: I could ask the Noon Pioneer. Yeah no, I'm sitting

1348
01:10:25,867 --> 01:10:27,827
Speaker 13: in the boardroom on them all on the own so's

1349
01:10:28,347 --> 01:10:29,787
Speaker 13: I'm getting huge listenership.

1350
01:10:31,747 --> 01:10:33,067
Speaker 2: God, are you nervous?

1351
01:10:34,307 --> 01:10:37,667
Speaker 13: Yeah I am? But yeah, well, unfortunately I was in

1352
01:10:37,787 --> 01:10:39,507
Speaker 13: South Africa on the All Back tour of last week

1353
01:10:39,507 --> 01:10:42,387
Speaker 13: and I watched it in a in a hotel room

1354
01:10:42,467 --> 01:10:44,987
Speaker 13: with me computer hooked up the four G to me

1355
01:10:45,107 --> 01:10:49,827
Speaker 13: TV and with Gary Munroe and may I tell you what, Yeah,

1356
01:10:49,867 --> 01:10:53,267
Speaker 13: it was hard work being so far and I'm being

1357
01:10:53,347 --> 01:10:57,107
Speaker 13: so close. And of course here that Jimmy Tava Nawa

1358
01:10:57,227 --> 01:11:00,267
Speaker 13: I steal. At the end we give all the accoladd

1359
01:11:00,307 --> 01:11:01,747
Speaker 13: the kicker. We wouldn't have been able to kick it

1360
01:11:01,787 --> 01:11:05,467
Speaker 13: without mighty Jimmy getting the opportunity. And then yeah, the

1361
01:11:05,547 --> 01:11:09,947
Speaker 13: young fellow stood up with Campbell Parrada and kept it.

1362
01:11:10,027 --> 01:11:11,427
Speaker 13: He's not a bad kicker. It's between you and I

1363
01:11:11,707 --> 01:11:13,347
Speaker 13: and there it was sensational.

1364
01:11:14,227 --> 01:11:18,107
Speaker 2: How special was it to finally get the Ranfilly shield

1365
01:11:18,187 --> 01:11:20,747
Speaker 2: to to the to the Tasman region. I know it's

1366
01:11:20,747 --> 01:11:22,907
Speaker 2: been in Marlborough, but you know, first time in Nelson.

1367
01:11:23,107 --> 01:11:24,427
Speaker 2: How special a week has it been.

1368
01:11:26,187 --> 01:11:29,707
Speaker 13: It's been unelievable. Pointy, you know we've been going eighteen

1369
01:11:29,787 --> 01:11:32,147
Speaker 13: years and I was one of the shaviors of the

1370
01:11:32,267 --> 01:11:34,667
Speaker 13: union man Max Spence, with the two Nelson people, but

1371
01:11:35,707 --> 01:11:38,467
Speaker 13: joining with Marlborough to make Tasman, which is what it's

1372
01:11:38,507 --> 01:11:41,307
Speaker 13: all about. Now it's no longer Nelson, it's no longer Malboro.

1373
01:11:41,347 --> 01:11:43,947
Speaker 13: It is Tasman and it's given our young people have

1374
01:11:44,067 --> 01:11:46,867
Speaker 13: great opportunity. And over the years we've been able to

1375
01:11:47,387 --> 01:11:49,107
Speaker 13: get to know one thing. One year we had seven

1376
01:11:49,187 --> 01:11:50,907
Speaker 13: or eight all books and the all Black squads, so

1377
01:11:50,987 --> 01:11:54,587
Speaker 13: they are all important and really really nice things to have.

1378
01:11:54,907 --> 01:11:57,827
Speaker 13: But we've never had the ranfully shield. And I've been

1379
01:11:57,867 --> 01:12:02,387
Speaker 13: to the four previous challenges and maybe on the on

1380
01:12:02,867 --> 01:12:06,787
Speaker 13: the on the bad things, I want.

1381
01:12:06,707 --> 01:12:09,507
Speaker 2: To say running, maybe you're maybe you're the issue.

1382
01:12:09,667 --> 01:12:10,027
Speaker 15: I know.

1383
01:12:10,587 --> 01:12:13,187
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm here on here before you had to say it.

1384
01:12:14,547 --> 01:12:19,307
Speaker 13: So yeah, and you know, for us, it's it's overly special.

1385
01:12:19,347 --> 01:12:21,707
Speaker 13: We've won the you know, we've come from third division

1386
01:12:22,187 --> 01:12:24,547
Speaker 13: and then joined as I say, with Marlble to become Tasman,

1387
01:12:24,587 --> 01:12:28,707
Speaker 13: and we've won won the NBC competition, so you know,

1388
01:12:28,787 --> 01:12:33,747
Speaker 13: the major steps in such a short time and and

1389
01:12:33,907 --> 01:12:36,587
Speaker 13: and amalgamating and being a success like this is quite

1390
01:12:36,627 --> 01:12:41,147
Speaker 13: special because others have failed. And yeah, it's just it's

1391
01:12:41,187 --> 01:12:43,827
Speaker 13: special for both our communities. And you know, we've got

1392
01:12:43,867 --> 01:12:45,827
Speaker 13: to sold out park at the hands down today and

1393
01:12:45,947 --> 01:12:49,147
Speaker 13: I'm just watching them still ramping in. You know, I

1394
01:12:49,307 --> 01:12:54,307
Speaker 13: just hope, like something that we do retain it and

1395
01:12:54,427 --> 01:12:58,307
Speaker 13: we get Nelson the opportunity to benefit for a defense

1396
01:12:58,467 --> 01:13:00,467
Speaker 13: like this. It's the day here in Marlbret at the

1397
01:13:00,547 --> 01:13:06,027
Speaker 13: moment is beautiful. The ground is stunning. There's no very

1398
01:13:06,067 --> 01:13:09,427
Speaker 13: little wonder effort all I can't see any at the moment,

1399
01:13:09,827 --> 01:13:12,547
Speaker 13: which has again been in the past been a bit

1400
01:13:12,587 --> 01:13:16,307
Speaker 13: of a mold away. It's beautiful here. So here let

1401
01:13:16,387 --> 01:13:17,107
Speaker 13: the challenge begin.

1402
01:13:17,747 --> 01:13:19,867
Speaker 2: Indeed, and can you just remind us from me about

1403
01:13:20,187 --> 01:13:23,707
Speaker 2: the amalgamation or the genesis of the amalgamation, would you say,

1404
01:13:24,107 --> 01:13:27,627
Speaker 2: eighteen sixteen, eighteen years ago, was there any was there

1405
01:13:27,667 --> 01:13:29,347
Speaker 2: any opposition to it at the time?

1406
01:13:30,547 --> 01:13:34,867
Speaker 13: Well, yes there was is fear to say, piney and

1407
01:13:36,507 --> 01:13:40,707
Speaker 13: guide emotions with your particular unions. And Marlborough is a

1408
01:13:40,827 --> 01:13:43,147
Speaker 13: very proud union and they did Homer Shield and you

1409
01:13:43,187 --> 01:13:46,787
Speaker 13: know Nelson may ever did and then we had ownership

1410
01:13:46,827 --> 01:13:50,147
Speaker 13: of grounds and because they Marlborough owned Lansdowne Park they

1411
01:13:50,227 --> 01:13:52,587
Speaker 13: don't now and of course Nelson is to out of

1412
01:13:52,587 --> 01:13:54,867
Speaker 13: the park which is owned by the council. We're all

1413
01:13:54,947 --> 01:14:01,627
Speaker 13: sorts of different things with emotions with it, with you know, players, officials,

1414
01:14:01,907 --> 01:14:05,867
Speaker 13: past players, and they're all things that you'd expect and

1415
01:14:05,947 --> 01:14:09,427
Speaker 13: you'd hope for, because the challenge of amalgamating is taking

1416
01:14:09,507 --> 01:14:13,307
Speaker 13: on the challenge and letting people's emotions, you know, get

1417
01:14:13,347 --> 01:14:15,507
Speaker 13: amongst it. But you know, if you look back now,

1418
01:14:15,987 --> 01:14:18,347
Speaker 13: you know you walk down the street of Blenn and

1419
01:14:18,387 --> 01:14:21,067
Speaker 13: Moore Nelson and you know you ask if they're not

1420
01:14:21,147 --> 01:14:24,627
Speaker 13: already in Marco Gare if you ask them, you know,

1421
01:14:25,187 --> 01:14:27,707
Speaker 13: what would you like to be? And they would like

1422
01:14:27,787 --> 01:14:29,347
Speaker 13: to be at Marco. These kids, they don't want to

1423
01:14:29,347 --> 01:14:31,987
Speaker 13: play for Nelson Base the same as they would Well Malborough.

1424
01:14:32,307 --> 01:14:33,707
Speaker 13: They want to be a marker. They want to be

1425
01:14:33,747 --> 01:14:36,827
Speaker 13: on the national stage. And you know we've given them

1426
01:14:36,987 --> 01:14:39,907
Speaker 13: those kids that opportunity to develop and comes through and

1427
01:14:39,947 --> 01:14:43,827
Speaker 13: to see guys like David Billy you know, and all

1428
01:14:43,907 --> 01:14:47,467
Speaker 13: the you know Ethan Blackaders and all the all Blacks

1429
01:14:47,507 --> 01:14:49,707
Speaker 13: that we've had over the last couple of years and

1430
01:14:49,827 --> 01:14:52,427
Speaker 13: still I haven't and guys that are on the fringes.

1431
01:14:53,107 --> 01:14:55,027
Speaker 13: You know, you look at a guy like Fimo Christy,

1432
01:14:55,947 --> 01:14:58,147
Speaker 13: you know he's sort of a current all but not

1433
01:14:58,267 --> 01:15:00,707
Speaker 13: at the moment. And young Noah Wholsome's taking a spot

1434
01:15:00,987 --> 01:15:04,987
Speaker 13: king who is a Tasman player. So you know that's

1435
01:15:05,227 --> 01:15:08,307
Speaker 13: great to see those guys coming and giving it a

1436
01:15:08,347 --> 01:15:11,267
Speaker 13: crack in the Tasman area, then making the marko and

1437
01:15:11,347 --> 01:15:15,187
Speaker 13: then becoming super players and the ultimate to wear the

1438
01:15:15,227 --> 01:15:16,027
Speaker 13: all black food.

1439
01:15:16,947 --> 01:15:21,067
Speaker 2: Indeed, I see your CEO, Steve Mitchell and William HARVILLI

1440
01:15:21,147 --> 01:15:23,387
Speaker 2: brought the shield into one of your places of business

1441
01:15:23,907 --> 01:15:25,227
Speaker 2: during the week. You would have enjoyed that.

1442
01:15:26,427 --> 01:15:29,107
Speaker 13: Yeah, I've been again. Not only was I part of

1443
01:15:29,147 --> 01:15:31,347
Speaker 13: setting up the union right in two thousand and five

1444
01:15:31,387 --> 01:15:33,587
Speaker 13: when we established in two thousand and six, but I've

1445
01:15:33,627 --> 01:15:36,027
Speaker 13: been an Augle sponsor right from the start and still

1446
01:15:36,107 --> 01:15:40,107
Speaker 13: are piny and proud of that. And yeah, when I

1447
01:15:40,187 --> 01:15:44,547
Speaker 13: got off the plane on Tuesday, Steve had already emailed

1448
01:15:44,587 --> 01:15:48,187
Speaker 13: men said that Wednesday morning at nine point thirty Wholly

1449
01:15:48,227 --> 01:15:51,347
Speaker 13: coming round with a player and it was well because

1450
01:15:51,347 --> 01:15:52,907
Speaker 13: he got a head knock and is unable to play

1451
01:15:52,987 --> 01:15:54,507
Speaker 13: to day and bring the shield ground to be able

1452
01:15:54,547 --> 01:15:56,547
Speaker 13: to put it in front of our staff and the

1453
01:15:56,627 --> 01:15:59,467
Speaker 13: few people that were around. Those are special occasions and

1454
01:15:59,907 --> 01:16:03,027
Speaker 13: lots of the businesses and Nelson, Marlborough, Golden Bay and

1455
01:16:04,227 --> 01:16:08,187
Speaker 13: went over to Sturge and Machuaca. That great occasions for

1456
01:16:08,347 --> 01:16:10,307
Speaker 13: everybody in the community to be a part of. And

1457
01:16:10,507 --> 01:16:12,187
Speaker 13: rather than sitting at in the Union and the odd

1458
01:16:12,307 --> 01:16:14,227
Speaker 13: person seeing it, they took it on the road around

1459
01:16:14,587 --> 01:16:16,627
Speaker 13: it to all those areas, which was pretty cool for

1460
01:16:16,707 --> 01:16:18,147
Speaker 13: the public to be able to hold it, see it,

1461
01:16:18,267 --> 01:16:21,107
Speaker 13: touch it, and have photos with it and with the players.

1462
01:16:21,187 --> 01:16:24,587
Speaker 13: So that's cool. And yeah, I am excited to have

1463
01:16:24,707 --> 01:16:26,347
Speaker 13: it because it's the first time we have had it,

1464
01:16:27,227 --> 01:16:29,347
Speaker 13: and I hope you know, I know you're up and

1465
01:16:29,427 --> 01:16:31,027
Speaker 13: well into now, but you've been down our way for

1466
01:16:31,067 --> 01:16:32,987
Speaker 13: a long time in the past. I hope for the

1467
01:16:33,027 --> 01:16:35,027
Speaker 13: good of Rugby that we're able to retain it and

1468
01:16:35,547 --> 01:16:36,707
Speaker 13: certainly finds up that we do.

1469
01:16:37,347 --> 01:16:37,507
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1470
01:16:37,547 --> 01:16:39,907
Speaker 2: Well, look, I said at the top of the show,

1471
01:16:40,147 --> 01:16:42,027
Speaker 2: I kind of it's a no lose situation for me

1472
01:16:42,107 --> 01:16:43,667
Speaker 2: and a big part of me, drumming does hope that

1473
01:16:43,707 --> 01:16:45,867
Speaker 2: it stays where it is, because you know, a week

1474
01:16:45,907 --> 01:16:48,347
Speaker 2: doesn't seem long enough. We had Quentin Strange on the

1475
01:16:48,347 --> 01:16:49,987
Speaker 2: show right at the start of the show and he

1476
01:16:50,027 --> 01:16:51,827
Speaker 2: talked about taking it over to Collingwood, you know, and

1477
01:16:52,747 --> 01:16:54,747
Speaker 2: the far flung places like that. You know, I mean,

1478
01:16:54,787 --> 01:16:57,227
Speaker 2: you won back to back MPC titles in twenty nineteen,

1479
01:16:57,427 --> 01:17:00,547
Speaker 2: twenty twenty without you know, actually openly saying it, do

1480
01:17:00,587 --> 01:17:02,507
Speaker 2: you reckon? Most people would say, okay, well, if we

1481
01:17:02,587 --> 01:17:05,147
Speaker 2: keep the shield for the summer, we don't mind too much.

1482
01:17:05,227 --> 01:17:07,387
Speaker 2: If we don't win the n PC this year.

1483
01:17:08,587 --> 01:17:10,827
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, I think you and I would have that opinion,

1484
01:17:11,507 --> 01:17:13,467
Speaker 13: and I do have that opinion. I'd rather have that

1485
01:17:13,627 --> 01:17:15,867
Speaker 13: now because we've you know, and not that we don't

1486
01:17:15,907 --> 01:17:18,467
Speaker 13: want to win the competition, because we do. And you

1487
01:17:18,547 --> 01:17:22,387
Speaker 13: know what an occasion today pinted the two only unbeaten

1488
01:17:22,507 --> 01:17:27,627
Speaker 13: teams playing for the Ray Shield. That's that's crazy stats.

1489
01:17:28,427 --> 01:17:30,347
Speaker 13: You know, who would have ever packed that at the

1490
01:17:30,387 --> 01:17:32,667
Speaker 13: start of the year, that you know that we went

1491
01:17:32,747 --> 01:17:34,307
Speaker 13: to Hawk's Bay and to win it, and then we're

1492
01:17:34,307 --> 01:17:38,707
Speaker 13: playing the only unbeaten team here today. You wouldn't pick

1493
01:17:38,787 --> 01:17:42,067
Speaker 13: those things. And it's a great occasion because, yeah, we're

1494
01:17:42,107 --> 01:17:44,147
Speaker 13: going to be playing probably on paper, the best team

1495
01:17:44,187 --> 01:17:46,467
Speaker 13: in the competition who is leading it with us, So

1496
01:17:46,667 --> 01:17:49,027
Speaker 13: let's not lose sight that you know, it's not going

1497
01:17:49,067 --> 01:17:50,827
Speaker 13: to be easy, but I would like to think the

1498
01:17:50,907 --> 01:17:55,147
Speaker 13: adrenaline and just holding it. You know, we'll get these

1499
01:17:55,187 --> 01:17:56,907
Speaker 13: guys up. And if you saw what happened to Hawk's

1500
01:17:56,947 --> 01:17:59,707
Speaker 13: Bay last night, you know, I'm sure they if they

1501
01:17:59,827 --> 01:18:01,947
Speaker 13: were the Shield was on the line against y Ka

1502
01:18:02,227 --> 01:18:05,427
Speaker 13: last night, you know, I beg to differ, but they

1503
01:18:05,507 --> 01:18:07,627
Speaker 13: probably would have paid played it a little bit different.

1504
01:18:08,107 --> 01:18:11,507
Speaker 13: Losing it is tough, but having it, you know, I'd

1505
01:18:11,627 --> 01:18:13,187
Speaker 13: like to sing that it holds a lot for these

1506
01:18:13,227 --> 01:18:14,667
Speaker 13: guys and certainly of this community.

1507
01:18:15,907 --> 01:18:18,827
Speaker 2: Well, you've passed about five or six minutes or closer

1508
01:18:18,867 --> 01:18:21,707
Speaker 2: to ten minutes. I've managed to pass ten minutes of

1509
01:18:21,747 --> 01:18:24,147
Speaker 2: your time getting closer to kickoff. Drummy, I'll let you

1510
01:18:24,227 --> 01:18:26,907
Speaker 2: go and mix and mingle. Hope. It's an awesome afternoon mate.

1511
01:18:26,947 --> 01:18:27,787
Speaker 2: Thanks for taking our call.

1512
01:18:28,707 --> 01:18:30,747
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, thank you very much for being part of it.

1513
01:18:30,827 --> 01:18:31,907
Speaker 13: Place good man.

1514
01:18:31,987 --> 01:18:35,027
Speaker 2: Fins up, as they say, Drummy, fins up. Shane Rummond

1515
01:18:35,107 --> 01:18:37,067
Speaker 2: well known in the Top of the South, huge supporter

1516
01:18:37,507 --> 01:18:41,067
Speaker 2: of sport, huge supporter of rugby and a guy who

1517
01:18:41,187 --> 01:18:43,147
Speaker 2: has basically put his money where his mouth is in

1518
01:18:43,227 --> 01:18:46,267
Speaker 2: terms of his support for the game of rugby and

1519
01:18:46,707 --> 01:18:50,627
Speaker 2: the really just community, not just sport, but all parts

1520
01:18:50,667 --> 01:18:53,547
Speaker 2: of the Nelson community. A very very good man. And

1521
01:18:53,867 --> 01:18:57,347
Speaker 2: look he's right. I'm from Wellington, as I said at

1522
01:18:57,387 --> 01:18:59,627
Speaker 2: the start of the show, born and bred in Wellington.

1523
01:19:00,227 --> 01:19:06,947
Speaker 2: Was there when when Wayne Smith took an office. One

1524
01:19:07,827 --> 01:19:10,667
Speaker 2: is scoring a try in Bernie's corner at Athletic Park

1525
01:19:11,307 --> 01:19:13,867
Speaker 2: and I was delighted when we got it back, was

1526
01:19:13,907 --> 01:19:15,747
Speaker 2: that two thousand and eight when we won it back

1527
01:19:15,747 --> 01:19:17,907
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Loved it, loved having it here,

1528
01:19:18,427 --> 01:19:20,907
Speaker 2: love being in and around it. But it just feels

1529
01:19:20,947 --> 01:19:24,467
Speaker 2: to me as though, look of Wellington won at this afternoon, great,

1530
01:19:25,187 --> 01:19:27,627
Speaker 2: But if Tasman hold on to it and have the

1531
01:19:27,667 --> 01:19:31,467
Speaker 2: opportunity to spread it around a little bit more in

1532
01:19:31,587 --> 01:19:33,267
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks, I'm just having a look

1533
01:19:33,307 --> 01:19:35,387
Speaker 2: at forward as to what their next challenge would be

1534
01:19:35,707 --> 01:19:38,427
Speaker 2: if they were to win this afternoon and defend it.

1535
01:19:39,107 --> 01:19:41,387
Speaker 2: They've got a couple of away games, so obviously it

1536
01:19:41,827 --> 01:19:44,627
Speaker 2: doesn't go on the line there. They play White Cuttle

1537
01:19:44,787 --> 01:19:48,187
Speaker 2: and then Otago over the next two weekends, then a

1538
01:19:48,267 --> 01:19:51,587
Speaker 2: home game a midweek home game, so we'd have a

1539
01:19:51,707 --> 01:19:56,267
Speaker 2: midweek shield challenge when Auckland come to Trafalga Park in

1540
01:19:56,347 --> 01:20:00,187
Speaker 2: Nelson on Wednesday, the second of October, and should they

1541
01:20:00,227 --> 01:20:02,747
Speaker 2: defend it there, then four days later they'll be back

1542
01:20:02,747 --> 01:20:06,307
Speaker 2: at Trafalga Park with Tartanaki coming to pay a visit.

1543
01:20:06,467 --> 01:20:09,267
Speaker 2: So that would be the path to holding on to

1544
01:20:09,347 --> 01:20:12,187
Speaker 2: the ran Furley Shield for the summer for Tasman. They

1545
01:20:12,307 --> 01:20:15,067
Speaker 2: need to win this afternoon beat Auckland on the second

1546
01:20:15,107 --> 01:20:18,267
Speaker 2: of October and beat Paranaki on the sixth of October. Because,

1547
01:20:18,307 --> 01:20:19,947
Speaker 2: as we know, once we get to semis in final,

1548
01:20:20,267 --> 01:20:22,867
Speaker 2: the ran Furley Shield does not become part of that.

1549
01:20:23,347 --> 01:20:25,307
Speaker 2: It sits in the trophy cabinet of the team that

1550
01:20:25,427 --> 01:20:28,747
Speaker 2: finishes the regular season with it. We're about fifteen minutes

1551
01:20:28,747 --> 01:20:31,347
Speaker 2: away from kickoff in Blenham. If you want to catch

1552
01:20:31,347 --> 01:20:32,987
Speaker 2: a full commentary, we have it for you on Gold

1553
01:20:33,027 --> 01:20:36,507
Speaker 2: Sport and iHeartRadio eight away from two News Talks B.

1554
01:20:37,387 --> 01:20:39,627
Speaker 1: When it's down to the line. You made a call

1555
01:20:39,827 --> 01:20:43,587
Speaker 1: on eight hundred eighty ten eighty Weekend Sport with Jason

1556
01:20:43,667 --> 01:20:44,907
Speaker 1: Pine News Talks.

1557
01:20:44,787 --> 01:20:47,547
Speaker 2: V News Talks HEB what are we five to two

1558
01:20:47,787 --> 01:20:49,907
Speaker 2: bumper edition of in case you missed it? There's heaps

1559
01:20:49,947 --> 01:20:52,587
Speaker 2: of stuff you might have missed, thankfully, and he's put

1560
01:20:52,627 --> 01:20:56,147
Speaker 2: together in case you missed it, the the epic edition

1561
01:20:56,307 --> 01:20:58,867
Speaker 2: for you after two o'clock. Also after two we're in

1562
01:20:58,947 --> 01:21:01,627
Speaker 2: London where the black Ferns have gone down to England

1563
01:21:01,667 --> 01:21:05,107
Speaker 2: the red Roses as they're called in women's rugby. This morning,

1564
01:21:05,107 --> 01:21:07,187
Speaker 2: over forty thousand turning out twicking him to watch that

1565
01:21:07,267 --> 01:21:10,027
Speaker 2: one twenty four points to twelve England victorious. They were

1566
01:21:10,067 --> 01:21:13,667
Speaker 2: twenty four nil ahead Caitlinarcolo with a couple of late

1567
01:21:13,747 --> 01:21:18,347
Speaker 2: tries shortening up the margin of defeat for the Black Ferns.

1568
01:21:18,387 --> 01:21:20,907
Speaker 2: But we'll get a view from inside the camp, from

1569
01:21:21,387 --> 01:21:25,547
Speaker 2: Ruby Tooey. James mccony is with us. For those who

1570
01:21:26,107 --> 01:21:28,707
Speaker 2: were wondering where James was in his normal spot around

1571
01:21:28,707 --> 01:21:30,907
Speaker 2: one forty five, he's been involved in what is it?

1572
01:21:31,347 --> 01:21:34,467
Speaker 2: Is it classic? Was it a classic All Blacks?

1573
01:21:35,187 --> 01:21:35,427
Speaker 16: Andy?

1574
01:21:35,467 --> 01:21:35,747
Speaker 15: What was that?

1575
01:21:35,907 --> 01:21:38,027
Speaker 2: What was he doing? Classic All Blacks or something?

1576
01:21:38,347 --> 01:21:38,547
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1577
01:21:38,587 --> 01:21:41,707
Speaker 2: Classic all Blacks? Classic Tony Fair Piney, Classic all Blacks?

1578
01:21:41,747 --> 01:21:43,827
Speaker 2: Classic Tuney fil Was it like some sort of like

1579
01:21:44,187 --> 01:21:46,467
Speaker 2: what's a classic All Black? Who was playing? I think

1580
01:21:46,587 --> 01:21:50,667
Speaker 2: Chris Marsoy was playing? Stephen Donald? Who else was playing?

1581
01:21:50,667 --> 01:21:54,827
Speaker 2: I can't remember, but yes, Stephen Donald is beautifully silver

1582
01:21:54,947 --> 01:21:56,627
Speaker 2: here now the beaver.

1583
01:21:56,827 --> 01:21:58,347
Speaker 3: That's worth right well.

1584
01:21:58,387 --> 01:22:00,067
Speaker 2: So James bcconey is with us. He can talk about that.

1585
01:22:00,187 --> 01:22:01,987
Speaker 2: He was involved in the broadcast of that, but lots

1586
01:22:02,027 --> 01:22:05,347
Speaker 2: of other bits and pieces as well. Cricket wise too.

1587
01:22:05,427 --> 01:22:07,667
Speaker 2: Want to get you to Sri Lanka, where the Black

1588
01:22:07,707 --> 01:22:11,187
Speaker 2: Aps have arrived ahead of a two Test series against

1589
01:22:11,187 --> 01:22:14,947
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka. Hopefully and by the sounds of it you

1590
01:22:15,027 --> 01:22:18,187
Speaker 2: know likely that they'll actually get some cricket in unlike

1591
01:22:18,587 --> 01:22:20,987
Speaker 2: what happened in India when they tried to get a

1592
01:22:21,027 --> 01:22:24,427
Speaker 2: Test away against Afghanistan and it rained on all five days.

1593
01:22:25,747 --> 01:22:28,707
Speaker 2: Updating you on Fara Hummer Cup rugby as well. Otago

1594
01:22:28,827 --> 01:22:32,987
Speaker 2: has beaten Wellington fifty one thirty eight in the Championship

1595
01:22:33,107 --> 01:22:35,667
Speaker 2: semi final, so they will take on Mona War two

1596
01:22:36,227 --> 01:22:38,587
Speaker 2: in the final next weekend. We'll keep you update with

1597
01:22:38,627 --> 01:22:41,547
Speaker 2: the Sheld Challenge too, kicking off in ten minutes in Blenham.

1598
01:22:42,867 --> 01:22:46,987
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1599
01:22:47,787 --> 01:22:52,667
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1600
01:22:52,827 --> 01:22:56,587
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason him on your home of Sport

1601
01:22:57,067 --> 01:22:57,587
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1602
01:22:57,627 --> 01:22:58,147
Speaker 14: Sa'd been.

1603
01:22:59,987 --> 01:23:03,227
Speaker 2: Two o seven another hour Weekend Sport and we'll knock

1604
01:23:03,227 --> 01:23:04,947
Speaker 2: it on the head and hand it over to Tim Beveridge.

1605
01:23:05,507 --> 01:23:08,507
Speaker 2: He'll take over the Sunday edition of the Weekend Collective

1606
01:23:09,067 --> 01:23:11,587
Speaker 2: and all the goodness that that brings. Before we can

1607
01:23:11,667 --> 01:23:13,707
Speaker 2: do that, though, a bit to get through from us.

1608
01:23:14,307 --> 01:23:17,867
Speaker 2: Ruby Twoey shortly out of the Black Fern's camp as

1609
01:23:17,947 --> 01:23:19,907
Speaker 2: we pick over the bones of their twenty four to

1610
01:23:20,027 --> 01:23:23,507
Speaker 2: twelve defeat to the Red Roses of England at Twickenham.

1611
01:23:23,707 --> 01:23:26,387
Speaker 2: In the early hours of this morning. Ruby twee along

1612
01:23:26,467 --> 01:23:29,467
Speaker 2: shortly we're in Sri Lanka with the Black Camps coach

1613
01:23:29,507 --> 01:23:32,947
Speaker 2: Gary Stead all round, a rich and ravender on the show.

1614
01:23:33,147 --> 01:23:38,147
Speaker 2: James mcconey will pop in as well. We had to

1615
01:23:38,187 --> 01:23:42,347
Speaker 2: put him off because he's been involved in another broadcasting commitment,

1616
01:23:42,787 --> 01:23:44,827
Speaker 2: So James macconey this hour. But of David Nikker two

1617
01:23:44,867 --> 01:23:48,627
Speaker 2: if we can fitiment fairly comfortable when last night for

1618
01:23:48,747 --> 01:23:53,747
Speaker 2: David Nicki, so we're too now fought him live sporting

1619
01:23:53,787 --> 01:23:55,867
Speaker 2: action as well. Of course they're underway in the ran

1620
01:23:55,947 --> 01:23:59,827
Speaker 2: Furley Shield defense Tasman against Wellington at what looks like

1621
01:23:59,947 --> 01:24:03,427
Speaker 2: a very very sun soaked Landsdown Park in Blenham. They

1622
01:24:03,467 --> 01:24:07,747
Speaker 2: do claim, don't they, Marlborough Blenham can't remember which to

1623
01:24:07,827 --> 01:24:12,347
Speaker 2: be the sunshine capital of New Zealand. They always bring

1624
01:24:12,387 --> 01:24:14,587
Speaker 2: out these stats, don't they have the number of sunshine

1625
01:24:14,707 --> 01:24:18,107
Speaker 2: hours and Blenham or the Marlborough region always seem to

1626
01:24:18,187 --> 01:24:19,747
Speaker 2: end up on top. Well, it's a cracking day there

1627
01:24:19,787 --> 01:24:22,027
Speaker 2: at the moment, but a high clop no score after

1628
01:24:22,107 --> 01:24:25,507
Speaker 2: three minutes and the Shield defense Tasman against Wellington. The

1629
01:24:25,547 --> 01:24:27,467
Speaker 2: other game going on at the moment is Counties against

1630
01:24:27,507 --> 01:24:33,267
Speaker 2: Otago at Pokacoe, also scoreless after three minutes. There our

1631
01:24:33,307 --> 01:24:36,267
Speaker 2: lines of communication remain open. You can use them if

1632
01:24:36,307 --> 01:24:38,507
Speaker 2: you like eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on the

1633
01:24:38,547 --> 01:24:42,307
Speaker 2: phone nine two ninety two to send a text eight

1634
01:24:42,307 --> 01:24:44,587
Speaker 2: and a half past two. As we always do though

1635
01:24:44,667 --> 01:24:47,067
Speaker 2: at around about this time on weekend sport, we like

1636
01:24:47,147 --> 01:24:48,747
Speaker 2: to bring you up to date with things that might

1637
01:24:48,787 --> 01:24:51,587
Speaker 2: have escaped your attention. And much as we've been saying

1638
01:24:51,627 --> 01:24:54,067
Speaker 2: it's a bit of a quieter sporting weekend, it's not really.

1639
01:24:54,547 --> 01:24:57,627
Speaker 2: There's been heaps on. So can I present to you

1640
01:24:57,747 --> 01:25:02,547
Speaker 2: a bumper edition of Andy McDonald's in case you mised feature.

1641
01:25:02,947 --> 01:25:07,307
Speaker 2: Let's start with the NPC Bay of plenty yesterday. Plenty

1642
01:25:07,427 --> 01:25:10,907
Speaker 2: strong enough to deal with the challenge of Talanaki, pops it.

1643
01:25:11,067 --> 01:25:15,547
Speaker 19: Back and it is intercepted by Narawa and anybody who's

1644
01:25:15,587 --> 01:25:19,147
Speaker 19: got the guest to wow, beautifully chased down by that

1645
01:25:19,427 --> 01:25:22,787
Speaker 19: man right to mighty booking Nickkins.

1646
01:25:22,867 --> 01:25:24,907
Speaker 2: But the support was there in the.

1647
01:25:25,267 --> 01:25:27,467
Speaker 3: Shape of finan a Norfall, and it.

1648
01:25:27,627 --> 01:25:31,107
Speaker 2: Is a try four Bay of plenty against the run

1649
01:25:31,187 --> 01:25:33,507
Speaker 2: of play and they ran out winners by thirty three

1650
01:25:33,587 --> 01:25:38,227
Speaker 2: points to twenty. Australian Taine ed Med steered North Harbor

1651
01:25:38,307 --> 01:25:41,387
Speaker 2: to a big win over Manawatu. Oh wait to the lead.

1652
01:25:41,707 --> 01:25:45,307
Speaker 2: Edmed with the kick pass oh It's brilliant and muck

1653
01:25:45,387 --> 01:25:50,187
Speaker 2: up scores in the left hand corner. Edman five medicine

1654
01:25:50,227 --> 01:25:52,467
Speaker 2: from the left wing. Touch what's the bed?

1655
01:25:52,547 --> 01:25:54,347
Speaker 5: It'll go straight over the black dock.

1656
01:25:54,747 --> 01:25:58,667
Speaker 2: Ten from ten and it has fifty eight nineteen Harbor

1657
01:25:58,707 --> 01:26:04,947
Speaker 2: beating Manawatu and Angelo Lee. Wheeler scored a cool thirty

1658
01:26:05,227 --> 01:26:08,907
Speaker 2: five points as White Cuttle made it a miserable night

1659
01:26:08,947 --> 01:26:10,227
Speaker 2: in Hamilton for the Magpies.

1660
01:26:10,307 --> 01:26:12,787
Speaker 4: Picked up Olioia, He's gonna go for four?

1661
01:26:13,147 --> 01:26:13,947
Speaker 2: Here is he done?

1662
01:26:15,827 --> 01:26:18,507
Speaker 4: Leo wheel has got four and he kicks the ball

1663
01:26:18,827 --> 01:26:20,507
Speaker 4: over the fence out of the road.

1664
01:26:20,787 --> 01:26:24,307
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. He we're forty one five here

1665
01:26:24,347 --> 01:26:28,827
Speaker 2: four trice six conversions and appearally for Dangelo Loela and

1666
01:26:28,907 --> 01:26:31,987
Speaker 2: White Cuto big winners by fifty points to five. Let's

1667
01:26:31,987 --> 01:26:35,667
Speaker 2: get to motorsport Formula one qualifiers and Baku. An impressive

1668
01:26:35,747 --> 01:26:37,227
Speaker 2: performance from Ferrari.

1669
01:26:37,107 --> 01:26:40,027
Speaker 20: Charlotte Clair fastest of anybody in the middle Seenter comes

1670
01:26:40,067 --> 01:26:40,907
Speaker 20: across the line.

1671
01:26:41,227 --> 01:26:44,747
Speaker 21: Pole for Charlott Clair, but Cerchio Perez, what could he do?

1672
01:26:45,107 --> 01:26:46,027
Speaker 2: He crosses the line.

1673
01:26:46,107 --> 01:26:47,267
Speaker 1: It's only fourth for.

1674
01:26:47,347 --> 01:26:52,227
Speaker 5: Perez, but for Charo Leclair it's another pole around the

1675
01:26:52,387 --> 01:26:53,547
Speaker 5: streets of Baku.

1676
01:26:53,827 --> 01:26:56,427
Speaker 2: Let's get to the NRL Week one of the finals.

1677
01:26:56,467 --> 01:27:00,227
Speaker 2: The Melbourne Storm. All levels of dominance over the Sharks.

1678
01:27:00,987 --> 01:27:01,987
Speaker 2: Forty's not out of the question.

1679
01:27:02,027 --> 01:27:04,707
Speaker 22: We're gonna go to field gou Ryan paper housing.

1680
01:27:05,067 --> 01:27:06,587
Speaker 2: Why not practice.

1681
01:27:07,787 --> 01:27:13,987
Speaker 22: Soul dress reheutle fens is the exclamation bark off the

1682
01:27:14,187 --> 01:27:17,147
Speaker 22: day thirty seven to ten.

1683
01:27:17,347 --> 01:27:20,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, dominance the Melbourne Storm and the Cowboys have put

1684
01:27:20,307 --> 01:27:23,267
Speaker 2: an end to the Newcastle Knights season. Up in Townsville.

1685
01:27:23,387 --> 01:27:25,787
Speaker 2: Ties it back to Dedon, He'll take him on.

1686
01:27:26,547 --> 01:27:27,227
Speaker 21: Tom did.

1687
01:27:27,347 --> 01:27:31,147
Speaker 2: It's dolls and the Cowboys are alive.

1688
01:27:31,347 --> 01:27:35,507
Speaker 22: In twenty twenty four, Tom Denon puts them on his

1689
01:27:35,707 --> 01:27:36,587
Speaker 22: back and says.

1690
01:27:36,467 --> 01:27:40,227
Speaker 5: Follow me, boys all the way to Sydney to take

1691
01:27:40,347 --> 01:27:41,227
Speaker 5: on the Sharks.

1692
01:27:41,427 --> 01:27:43,747
Speaker 2: Here twenty eight to sixteen, the Cowboys over the Nights

1693
01:27:44,387 --> 01:27:49,867
Speaker 2: to the World Series of Dance, Young triumphing against old

1694
01:27:50,347 --> 01:27:54,867
Speaker 2: Luke Littler, winning over Raymond van Barnabelt eighteen would leave

1695
01:27:54,907 --> 01:27:55,667
Speaker 2: him the bulls eye.

1696
01:27:56,387 --> 01:27:58,507
Speaker 22: Now push him on the double and he takes its

1697
01:27:58,947 --> 01:28:01,427
Speaker 22: double seven and Varney.

1698
01:28:01,227 --> 01:28:04,747
Speaker 2: Knows that he played a terrific game of dance himself,

1699
01:28:05,187 --> 01:28:08,147
Speaker 2: that he just had got it in. He said, stop

1700
01:28:08,627 --> 01:28:11,907
Speaker 2: this phenomenal young talent. Let's got a goal for Rory

1701
01:28:12,067 --> 01:28:14,787
Speaker 2: McElroy in good shape to win. The Irish Golf opened

1702
01:28:14,827 --> 01:28:17,147
Speaker 2: despite a chaotic eighteenth hole and.

1703
01:28:17,187 --> 01:28:18,787
Speaker 23: As a bogey six, I'm afraid it will last for

1704
01:28:18,987 --> 01:28:21,987
Speaker 23: Rory McElroy. It's a two hundred ount of sixty nine

1705
01:28:22,587 --> 01:28:26,027
Speaker 23: for the race to do by leader. So we'll go

1706
01:28:26,147 --> 01:28:31,107
Speaker 23: into Sunday something a second Gene Irish Open titled It's

1707
01:28:31,147 --> 01:28:31,907
Speaker 23: six under.

1708
01:28:31,787 --> 01:28:34,547
Speaker 2: Part to the Premier League. It was a happy outing

1709
01:28:34,907 --> 01:28:37,107
Speaker 2: in Southampton for Manchester United.

1710
01:28:37,627 --> 01:28:39,307
Speaker 5: Now, Dallo, can they set the sea lot of me

1711
01:28:39,387 --> 01:28:43,307
Speaker 5: Gollum a free? They canndy Gana Joe wraps it up.

1712
01:28:43,467 --> 01:28:49,547
Speaker 5: Three goals, three points and some welcome respites from Manchester United.

1713
01:28:49,747 --> 01:28:52,667
Speaker 2: The three Noill winners out of Southampton. Manchester City meantime,

1714
01:28:52,827 --> 01:28:55,787
Speaker 2: had none other than Earling Harland to think as he

1715
01:28:55,947 --> 01:29:00,587
Speaker 2: continued his outrageous goal scoring form against Brentford Lort. Harland's

1716
01:29:00,947 --> 01:29:03,707
Speaker 2: just pumps his way past ten nack through the goal.

1717
01:29:06,587 --> 01:29:16,147
Speaker 22: That happens, there is never any doubts. It's goal scoring

1718
01:29:16,307 --> 01:29:19,227
Speaker 22: on another level from the van of the moments.

1719
01:29:19,387 --> 01:29:22,387
Speaker 2: Yes, City two one winners over Brentford, but an unhappy

1720
01:29:22,587 --> 01:29:26,467
Speaker 2: night at home for Liverpool. How about that he's picked

1721
01:29:26,507 --> 01:29:27,307
Speaker 2: out Hudson a doy.

1722
01:29:27,427 --> 01:29:30,827
Speaker 21: Those two are making an impression, making a difference and

1723
01:29:31,027 --> 01:29:35,227
Speaker 21: Hutcheon a die has made it even take a difference there.

1724
01:29:36,267 --> 01:29:41,227
Speaker 21: Notting A Forest have slapstile and filled where they've been

1725
01:29:41,507 --> 01:29:46,027
Speaker 21: one for fifty five years. There's work to be done,

1726
01:29:46,467 --> 01:29:49,067
Speaker 21: but remarkably they have the league.

1727
01:29:49,147 --> 01:29:51,707
Speaker 2: And they held on to Chris Wood and Nottingham Forest

1728
01:29:51,747 --> 01:29:55,747
Speaker 2: winning at Anfield for the first time since nineteen sixty nine.

1729
01:29:56,147 --> 01:30:00,507
Speaker 2: And finally, David Nika continues his rise in the world

1730
01:30:00,547 --> 01:30:04,467
Speaker 2: of boxing. Not to see beautiful Catawa here.

1731
01:30:04,827 --> 01:30:08,347
Speaker 1: Off the south court position coming is a beautiful.

1732
01:30:07,987 --> 01:30:11,947
Speaker 4: Temple show's eyes eyes are clear.

1733
01:30:12,067 --> 01:30:17,907
Speaker 2: But that's corner you win by tko.

1734
01:30:28,147 --> 01:30:30,707
Speaker 1: The Scoons from the track, field and the court on

1735
01:30:30,907 --> 01:30:34,707
Speaker 1: your home of Sport Weekend Sport with Jason vine Us.

1736
01:30:35,827 --> 01:30:38,227
Speaker 2: I think that's the longest edition of Incasion, mister we've

1737
01:30:38,267 --> 01:30:40,787
Speaker 2: ever had. It's two fourteen. I hope you're all caught

1738
01:30:40,867 --> 01:30:43,187
Speaker 2: up now. I'll just catch you up quickly on the

1739
01:30:43,427 --> 01:30:48,547
Speaker 2: shield defense in Blenheim. Eight minutes gone Tasman nil, Wellington nil.

1740
01:30:48,787 --> 01:30:53,067
Speaker 2: Unfortunately Quentin Strange, captain of Tasman, had to leave the

1741
01:30:53,227 --> 01:30:57,387
Speaker 2: field after just four minutes. So such a shame for

1742
01:30:57,467 --> 01:31:01,747
Speaker 2: the skipper of the home side, having all that anticipation

1743
01:31:01,987 --> 01:31:04,427
Speaker 2: right across the week. In a huge occasion for he

1744
01:31:04,547 --> 01:31:07,307
Speaker 2: and his team, he has been able to get past

1745
01:31:07,387 --> 01:31:10,827
Speaker 2: the fourth minute. He has left injured. Nil all after

1746
01:31:10,947 --> 01:31:14,587
Speaker 2: eight minutes between Tasman and Wellington. It's bang on quarter

1747
01:31:14,667 --> 01:31:16,187
Speaker 2: past two towards midfield.

1748
01:31:16,267 --> 01:31:18,147
Speaker 3: Bounces up, well, it bounds up and you feel under

1749
01:31:18,147 --> 01:31:20,027
Speaker 3: well right hey. The man maks up on a left hand.

1750
01:31:19,907 --> 01:31:23,187
Speaker 2: Side Baha follow Pensy escapes again paland ba ha.

1751
01:31:23,267 --> 01:31:26,467
Speaker 4: Folow down the left pen side of the park.

1752
01:31:26,987 --> 01:31:28,787
Speaker 3: Scores New Zealand's rest of the day.

1753
01:31:29,347 --> 01:31:31,867
Speaker 2: Joseph goes down the left hand blind Twoe releases of.

1754
01:31:31,907 --> 01:31:34,347
Speaker 6: The ha Hollo ba ha holo down the left back.

1755
01:31:34,227 --> 01:31:35,747
Speaker 8: Tide sill start.

1756
01:31:36,267 --> 01:31:38,507
Speaker 2: Neck will be full time.

1757
01:31:39,707 --> 01:31:42,707
Speaker 5: England's too good at Twickenham.

1758
01:31:42,947 --> 01:31:46,547
Speaker 2: Twenty four to twelve. That's our rugby editor and lead commentator,

1759
01:31:46,587 --> 01:31:49,267
Speaker 2: Elliott Smith. Calling it England's Red Roses a bit of

1760
01:31:49,307 --> 01:31:51,547
Speaker 2: a thorn in the Black Ferns side, winning their home

1761
01:31:51,627 --> 01:31:54,547
Speaker 2: rugby International twenty four to twelve at Twickenham in the

1762
01:31:54,587 --> 01:31:57,427
Speaker 2: early hours of this morning. New Zealand trailed twenty four

1763
01:31:57,587 --> 01:32:00,387
Speaker 2: nil early in the second half before those two late

1764
01:32:00,467 --> 01:32:03,867
Speaker 2: tries to Caitlin call All closed the gap. Black Fern's

1765
01:32:03,907 --> 01:32:06,507
Speaker 2: winger Ruby Toohey, came off the bench and set up

1766
01:32:06,507 --> 01:32:09,307
Speaker 2: the second of those tries as she joined us. Now, Ruby,

1767
01:32:09,347 --> 01:32:11,147
Speaker 2: how do you reflect, first of all on the game

1768
01:32:11,427 --> 01:32:13,627
Speaker 2: in broad sort of general terms.

1769
01:32:15,227 --> 01:32:18,267
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, that game really helped us out. We've got

1770
01:32:18,347 --> 01:32:20,867
Speaker 17: to see a lot of pictures, We've got to try

1771
01:32:20,867 --> 01:32:24,187
Speaker 17: a lot of things and mate, the crowd was awesome.

1772
01:32:24,587 --> 01:32:26,307
Speaker 17: A few of us stayed around afterwards to sign a

1773
01:32:26,347 --> 01:32:29,587
Speaker 17: few things and the support forms Rugby. Yeah, it was

1774
01:32:29,627 --> 01:32:30,747
Speaker 17: really cool experience for your.

1775
01:32:30,747 --> 01:32:35,907
Speaker 2: Hand, unbelievable. So in terms of the game itself, quite

1776
01:32:35,907 --> 01:32:37,947
Speaker 2: a bit of early pressure exerted by the Black Ferns.

1777
01:32:38,387 --> 01:32:41,387
Speaker 2: A bit frustrating that you couldn't well disappointing you couldn't

1778
01:32:41,387 --> 01:32:43,587
Speaker 2: convert that early pressure into some points.

1779
01:32:45,627 --> 01:32:48,427
Speaker 17: Yeah, look, that was probably the best start we've had

1780
01:32:48,827 --> 01:32:51,627
Speaker 17: in a long time. I think England probably would have

1781
01:32:51,667 --> 01:32:54,787
Speaker 17: been really frustrated in that first but as well, and

1782
01:32:54,907 --> 01:32:57,147
Speaker 17: I think, you know, there were just a couple of

1783
01:32:57,507 --> 01:33:01,267
Speaker 17: tiny moments, passes, bounces kind of thing that if they

1784
01:33:01,347 --> 01:33:03,787
Speaker 17: went the other way, you know, we definitely would have

1785
01:33:03,827 --> 01:33:06,667
Speaker 17: been a nil some points all credits in England. When

1786
01:33:06,707 --> 01:33:09,427
Speaker 17: they come into their green dome into our twenty two,

1787
01:33:09,467 --> 01:33:12,387
Speaker 17: you know they're converted. You got to commend that. And

1788
01:33:12,507 --> 01:33:14,667
Speaker 17: then in the second half I started to open up again,

1789
01:33:14,787 --> 01:33:16,987
Speaker 17: so you know, it was a bit of an army resort.

1790
01:33:17,027 --> 01:33:19,907
Speaker 17: I think we played really well for a big chunk

1791
01:33:19,947 --> 01:33:24,067
Speaker 17: of that game. The parts that they played well, they converted,

1792
01:33:24,187 --> 01:33:25,827
Speaker 17: so you have to commit England on that.

1793
01:33:26,227 --> 01:33:30,867
Speaker 2: How did you find it watching on from the bench, Yeah,

1794
01:33:30,987 --> 01:33:31,867
Speaker 2: to be honest, that's my.

1795
01:33:31,947 --> 01:33:34,187
Speaker 17: First time ever coming off the bench for the Black Friends,

1796
01:33:34,227 --> 01:33:36,987
Speaker 17: and man, I could hardly sit down, to be honest.

1797
01:33:37,027 --> 01:33:37,987
Speaker 13: It was so exciting.

1798
01:33:38,547 --> 01:33:40,867
Speaker 17: You know, it was so cool to see Ashev Singer

1799
01:33:41,027 --> 01:33:43,587
Speaker 17: return to the Black Jusey and you just sprinting down

1800
01:33:43,667 --> 01:33:46,347
Speaker 17: that worn like nothing else. One of their breaks, if

1801
01:33:46,347 --> 01:33:48,467
Speaker 17: started sprinting down there when Weather and I got told

1802
01:33:48,507 --> 01:33:50,467
Speaker 17: off to come back to the sub box. So it

1803
01:33:50,627 --> 01:33:52,907
Speaker 17: was just It was so cool bro, Like you know,

1804
01:33:53,107 --> 01:33:56,067
Speaker 17: I try and dedicate my life to being a really

1805
01:33:56,107 --> 01:33:57,987
Speaker 17: good black friend, but at my heart, I'm just such

1806
01:33:58,027 --> 01:33:59,667
Speaker 17: a fan of this team. So it was such a

1807
01:33:59,747 --> 01:34:01,347
Speaker 17: cool occasion. It was really really awesome.

1808
01:34:01,547 --> 01:34:03,347
Speaker 2: Once you got on, do you did you find it?

1809
01:34:03,427 --> 01:34:05,067
Speaker 2: Like people say, you go on make an impact, but

1810
01:34:05,187 --> 01:34:06,587
Speaker 2: did you did it take a little bit of time

1811
01:34:06,667 --> 01:34:08,227
Speaker 2: to get into the game or were you okay once

1812
01:34:08,267 --> 01:34:08,827
Speaker 2: you got on there?

1813
01:34:10,627 --> 01:34:12,787
Speaker 17: Now, there was one thing I found watching from the bench,

1814
01:34:12,867 --> 01:34:15,867
Speaker 17: you can kind of see, you know, that last pass

1815
01:34:16,027 --> 01:34:17,947
Speaker 17: or you can see where the space kind of was

1816
01:34:17,987 --> 01:34:22,067
Speaker 17: opening up, so you know, it was it was really cool. Actually,

1817
01:34:22,147 --> 01:34:24,787
Speaker 17: I think it actually helped me doup the sea and

1818
01:34:25,067 --> 01:34:27,867
Speaker 17: hire coming on. You know, we could we could kind

1819
01:34:27,907 --> 01:34:31,027
Speaker 17: of see where to infiltrate them, and we ended up yeah,

1820
01:34:31,707 --> 01:34:34,947
Speaker 17: well at least one try. I can't remember exactly, but no,

1821
01:34:35,107 --> 01:34:37,547
Speaker 17: it was. It actually sets up quite well being able

1822
01:34:37,547 --> 01:34:38,387
Speaker 17: to see the space.

1823
01:34:38,187 --> 01:34:40,187
Speaker 2: Before you go on a ticket and a couple of

1824
01:34:40,267 --> 01:34:42,507
Speaker 2: tries for Caitlin at the end, how much you know,

1825
01:34:42,947 --> 01:34:45,707
Speaker 2: how much confidence I guess do you take from that

1826
01:34:45,867 --> 01:34:48,387
Speaker 2: that you know eventually you did bust them down, got

1827
01:34:48,387 --> 01:34:50,947
Speaker 2: a couple of tries so I guess just do it,

1828
01:34:51,387 --> 01:34:53,587
Speaker 2: you know, a little bit earlier in the game. Would

1829
01:34:53,627 --> 01:34:54,867
Speaker 2: that be the would that be the key when you

1830
01:34:54,947 --> 01:34:55,787
Speaker 2: meet them again shortly?

1831
01:34:57,627 --> 01:35:00,707
Speaker 17: Yeah, definitely, there's just you know, I really I actually

1832
01:35:00,707 --> 01:35:02,707
Speaker 17: can't wait to watch the footage because there's just going

1833
01:35:02,787 --> 01:35:07,027
Speaker 17: to be so much gold in there for us, you know. Definitely,

1834
01:35:07,227 --> 01:35:08,867
Speaker 17: Like I said, got to commend them on their twenty

1835
01:35:08,907 --> 01:35:11,427
Speaker 17: two entries, but looking back at ours, I know all

1836
01:35:11,467 --> 01:35:14,547
Speaker 17: of us are going to be being like, oh, I'm

1837
01:35:14,587 --> 01:35:17,827
Speaker 17: so close. So if anything, it just really wracked us up.

1838
01:35:17,907 --> 01:35:21,227
Speaker 17: It's a really exciting you know, I'm actually really grateful

1839
01:35:21,307 --> 01:35:23,467
Speaker 17: Daily has come over here and have a jam. Got

1840
01:35:23,507 --> 01:35:25,027
Speaker 17: to go to Twickenham, you know, got to be in

1841
01:35:25,107 --> 01:35:26,947
Speaker 17: London where the World Cup will be tolp months out.

1842
01:35:27,027 --> 01:35:29,827
Speaker 17: So if anything, that just I'm pretty sure I can

1843
01:35:29,867 --> 01:35:31,307
Speaker 17: speak on behalf of the gures. That just made us

1844
01:35:31,387 --> 01:35:34,507
Speaker 17: so excited moving forward and moving into this next chapter

1845
01:35:34,667 --> 01:35:37,387
Speaker 17: our June to give it its Oh man, I'm really excited.

1846
01:35:37,507 --> 01:35:40,227
Speaker 2: That's cool because yeah, because you get to obviously continue

1847
01:35:40,267 --> 01:35:42,667
Speaker 2: now with w XV one, you get another crackit England

1848
01:35:42,707 --> 01:35:44,147
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks goo the Ireland as well,

1849
01:35:44,307 --> 01:35:47,987
Speaker 2: so there is there confidence, excitement, optimism as you as

1850
01:35:48,027 --> 01:35:50,467
Speaker 2: you look to I guess hop on a plane shortly

1851
01:35:50,507 --> 01:35:52,187
Speaker 2: and get to the get to the next port of.

1852
01:35:52,187 --> 01:35:56,987
Speaker 17: Corp absolutely like, this is so cool to have a

1853
01:35:57,187 --> 01:35:59,787
Speaker 17: Wix speed competition. You know some means for the black

1854
01:35:59,827 --> 01:36:02,027
Speaker 17: friends you're just playing and once met it. But we're

1855
01:36:02,107 --> 01:36:05,387
Speaker 17: so lucky, you know, we've got these competitions. Now you're right,

1856
01:36:05,467 --> 01:36:08,107
Speaker 17: we get to go bank three more internationals out and

1857
01:36:08,187 --> 01:36:12,027
Speaker 17: it's really really crucial for our preparation. We don't know

1858
01:36:12,947 --> 01:36:15,027
Speaker 17: when we'll play them again, you know, so the dumb

1859
01:36:15,267 --> 01:36:17,747
Speaker 17: X we will head over to Canada's phone and it's

1860
01:36:17,827 --> 01:36:20,787
Speaker 17: going to be you know, really really fun. After that

1861
01:36:20,907 --> 01:36:22,747
Speaker 17: game that it's felt like a little tasty, you know,

1862
01:36:22,947 --> 01:36:25,507
Speaker 17: so we're really looking forward to WXV and we really

1863
01:36:25,547 --> 01:36:26,707
Speaker 17: stoked to have that competition.

1864
01:36:27,067 --> 01:36:28,107
Speaker 2: What is Twickenham like?

1865
01:36:30,627 --> 01:36:33,747
Speaker 17: Yeah, talking them, it's pretty cool. It's got another kind

1866
01:36:33,787 --> 01:36:37,187
Speaker 17: of third tier, like one more than Eden Park, and

1867
01:36:37,227 --> 01:36:39,347
Speaker 17: then it's got this kind of half roost that comes

1868
01:36:39,427 --> 01:36:42,707
Speaker 17: over and what ends up happening is the acoustics just

1869
01:36:42,827 --> 01:36:45,587
Speaker 17: kind of multiply so when the crowd goes off or

1870
01:36:45,667 --> 01:36:47,547
Speaker 17: even we did kept and running with no one in

1871
01:36:47,627 --> 01:36:50,867
Speaker 17: there and Tania coronavally sneeze and honestly was so loud

1872
01:36:51,147 --> 01:36:54,507
Speaker 17: because it goes so loud. So it's like it's quite

1873
01:36:54,547 --> 01:36:57,427
Speaker 17: a funny stadium for playing because every time the crowd rules,

1874
01:36:57,427 --> 01:37:00,307
Speaker 17: it's really really loud. And it was really cool. You know,

1875
01:37:00,427 --> 01:37:02,907
Speaker 17: they love the Hacker, they really you know, we could

1876
01:37:02,947 --> 01:37:04,747
Speaker 17: hear them chair for us as well. Definitely heard the

1877
01:37:04,827 --> 01:37:07,707
Speaker 17: kiris that we're out there, so it's definitely one of

1878
01:37:07,747 --> 01:37:10,147
Speaker 17: a kind talking on stadium and I'm oh, man, I

1879
01:37:10,227 --> 01:37:11,707
Speaker 17: think last of my played here was the sevens in

1880
01:37:11,787 --> 01:37:14,467
Speaker 17: like twenty fifteen or something, so it was it was

1881
01:37:14,547 --> 01:37:16,787
Speaker 17: called come back, run it back and have a jam.

1882
01:37:16,907 --> 01:37:20,227
Speaker 17: And I'll tell you I'm looking forward to tom at

1883
01:37:20,267 --> 01:37:20,907
Speaker 17: the time for sure.

1884
01:37:21,347 --> 01:37:23,707
Speaker 2: And have you got King Charles' phone number in your

1885
01:37:23,747 --> 01:37:24,147
Speaker 2: phone now?

1886
01:37:28,827 --> 01:37:31,387
Speaker 17: And then like you're going to see the well, like

1887
01:37:31,507 --> 01:37:33,627
Speaker 17: what is it even? I don't know if you've been

1888
01:37:33,667 --> 01:37:35,467
Speaker 17: to London, you know how Eyon goes to London and

1889
01:37:35,547 --> 01:37:39,907
Speaker 17: then go to stand outside the fence. I've ever done

1890
01:37:40,107 --> 01:37:42,427
Speaker 17: by the fence opened up. We drove in the bus

1891
01:37:42,547 --> 01:37:45,467
Speaker 17: and then the castle and you might drive right through

1892
01:37:45,547 --> 01:37:49,067
Speaker 17: the whole wall. So buzzy y, but no, he was.

1893
01:37:49,227 --> 01:37:51,187
Speaker 17: The king was really really nice. It will be down

1894
01:37:51,227 --> 01:37:54,067
Speaker 17: to earth and he played rugby in the secondary and

1895
01:37:54,107 --> 01:37:54,947
Speaker 17: broken nose.

1896
01:37:55,147 --> 01:37:58,907
Speaker 2: Some fact a good fact too. Thanks for staying up

1897
01:37:58,947 --> 01:38:01,547
Speaker 2: late for us, Ruby, safe travels. Look forward to seeing

1898
01:38:01,787 --> 01:38:03,547
Speaker 2: how the Black Fians go in WX ME one.

1899
01:38:04,987 --> 01:38:07,427
Speaker 17: Hey, look, thank you so much anyone, as I'd appreciate

1900
01:38:07,507 --> 01:38:09,507
Speaker 17: it more than you know, and thank you for all

1901
01:38:09,547 --> 01:38:14,107
Speaker 17: the support and back excuss it missus David appreciate it.

1902
01:38:14,227 --> 01:38:16,107
Speaker 2: No good on your Ruby thinks indeed, Ruby twey there

1903
01:38:16,187 --> 01:38:17,987
Speaker 2: out of the Black Ferns Camp twenty four to twelve

1904
01:38:18,787 --> 01:38:20,547
Speaker 2: went down to England at twicken In this morning. So

1905
01:38:20,627 --> 01:38:22,987
Speaker 2: they're on a plane now and in two weeks they

1906
01:38:23,027 --> 01:38:25,867
Speaker 2: begin WXV one. They take on they go to Canada.

1907
01:38:26,067 --> 01:38:28,547
Speaker 2: All of these games are in Canada. In Vancouver they

1908
01:38:28,627 --> 01:38:33,227
Speaker 2: take on Ireland on Monday September thirty, then England again

1909
01:38:33,427 --> 01:38:37,147
Speaker 2: in Vancouver on Monday October seven, and then on Sunday,

1910
01:38:37,187 --> 01:38:41,307
Speaker 2: October thirteenth, also Vancouver, they play France. So a good

1911
01:38:41,387 --> 01:38:43,987
Speaker 2: gauge and another crack at England in the In the

1912
01:38:44,107 --> 01:38:48,347
Speaker 2: not too distant future, Tasman have drawn first blood in Blenham.

1913
01:38:48,507 --> 01:38:51,187
Speaker 2: Timothy Tavatava Nawa has crashed over in the right wing

1914
01:38:51,307 --> 01:38:55,267
Speaker 2: corner to score a try for the shield Holders. They

1915
01:38:55,307 --> 01:38:58,787
Speaker 2: are five nill ahead after fifteen minutes, although Wellington playing

1916
01:38:58,787 --> 01:39:01,387
Speaker 2: at the moment under penalty advantage, so let's say what

1917
01:39:01,427 --> 01:39:04,147
Speaker 2: they do with that when that phase of play comes

1918
01:39:04,227 --> 01:39:06,587
Speaker 2: to an end. Just check for you the or in

1919
01:39:06,627 --> 01:39:11,307
Speaker 2: the other game, Counties fourteen Otago three in Pocacoe. After

1920
01:39:11,427 --> 01:39:14,707
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes there twenty three minutes past two, we'll take

1921
01:39:14,747 --> 01:39:17,067
Speaker 2: a break. Come back slightly delayed, but with this is

1922
01:39:17,067 --> 01:39:19,787
Speaker 2: always on a Sunday James mcconey Right after this.

1923
01:39:20,907 --> 01:39:24,387
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

1924
01:39:24,507 --> 01:39:28,387
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vain and GJ. Gunn homes New Zealand's

1925
01:39:28,387 --> 01:39:29,507
Speaker 1: most trusted oh Builder.

1926
01:39:29,627 --> 01:39:33,067
Speaker 2: News TALKSB two twenty six on News Talks theirb a

1927
01:39:33,107 --> 01:39:35,907
Speaker 2: bit later than usual, but always good to get the

1928
01:39:35,987 --> 01:39:38,427
Speaker 2: chance on a Sunday afternoon to chat to James mcconey.

1929
01:39:38,507 --> 01:39:41,667
Speaker 2: This is your second presumably broadcasting assignment of the day.

1930
01:39:41,947 --> 01:39:44,467
Speaker 2: What were you doing earlier? Was it a classic All

1931
01:39:44,547 --> 01:39:45,747
Speaker 2: Blacks match? Tell us about this?

1932
01:39:46,547 --> 01:39:50,707
Speaker 18: Yes, classic All Blacks versus Classic Tunny Far Northland Tunny

1933
01:39:50,747 --> 01:39:54,627
Speaker 18: fair enfang are, beautiful day there at the stadium, and

1934
01:39:55,627 --> 01:39:59,027
Speaker 18: some absolute stars of the game. Probably the biggest star

1935
01:39:59,147 --> 01:40:02,507
Speaker 18: was Conrad Smith. It was reffing the game and I

1936
01:40:02,627 --> 01:40:04,427
Speaker 18: thought he did a sterling job, although he copped a

1937
01:40:04,467 --> 01:40:07,507
Speaker 18: lot of abuse from his old teammates.

1938
01:40:08,027 --> 01:40:11,587
Speaker 2: Who in particular was getting mauthy towards Conrad Smith or

1939
01:40:11,627 --> 01:40:12,187
Speaker 2: were they all?

1940
01:40:13,707 --> 01:40:15,587
Speaker 18: I don't want to name names, but John R. Ford

1941
01:40:15,707 --> 01:40:21,227
Speaker 18: does friend to mine. He is quite lively and as

1942
01:40:21,467 --> 01:40:24,467
Speaker 18: I mean to be honest, he's he's missing his calling.

1943
01:40:24,547 --> 01:40:27,787
Speaker 18: He is a commentator and a prop's body and he

1944
01:40:27,987 --> 01:40:30,347
Speaker 18: needs to someone in the sky needs to sign him

1945
01:40:30,387 --> 01:40:33,787
Speaker 18: up immediately. But yeah, look some of the big names

1946
01:40:33,787 --> 01:40:38,587
Speaker 18: out there, I say the Switzervaki, Stephen Donald. That was

1947
01:40:38,667 --> 01:40:42,347
Speaker 18: the starting back line with Andre Taylor, Taylor looking incredible

1948
01:40:42,667 --> 01:40:45,147
Speaker 18: still playing club rugby and manuat too. And of course

1949
01:40:45,307 --> 01:40:48,067
Speaker 18: as a Hurricanes fan pioneer, you must feel that he

1950
01:40:48,227 --> 01:40:51,067
Speaker 18: was hard done by and Conrad Smith agreed that Andre

1951
01:40:51,227 --> 01:40:52,627
Speaker 18: Taylor should have been an All Black.

1952
01:40:52,867 --> 01:40:55,947
Speaker 2: I remember, as you said his name, I remember there

1953
01:40:56,027 --> 01:40:59,347
Speaker 2: was a season where he was spectacularly good and being

1954
01:40:59,387 --> 01:41:01,987
Speaker 2: talked about in All Black terms, and I remember actually

1955
01:41:02,627 --> 01:41:05,027
Speaker 2: hearing an interview with him a year or so later,

1956
01:41:05,067 --> 01:41:07,107
Speaker 2: where he said the fact he did didn't get picked

1957
01:41:07,347 --> 01:41:09,947
Speaker 2: really affected him because he thought he'd done enough, but

1958
01:41:10,787 --> 01:41:13,267
Speaker 2: Cley just not quite enough at that time.

1959
01:41:14,107 --> 01:41:16,067
Speaker 18: I mean there were lots of questionable calls. I mean,

1960
01:41:16,227 --> 01:41:19,227
Speaker 18: any ranger probably should have been at least a fifty

1961
01:41:19,267 --> 01:41:22,587
Speaker 18: test All Black. And that's what always feels the worst

1962
01:41:23,067 --> 01:41:25,867
Speaker 18: for those players, is that in any other nation, you know,

1963
01:41:26,547 --> 01:41:29,347
Speaker 18: Andre Taylor would have played one hundred Tests for the Wallabies, right,

1964
01:41:29,467 --> 01:41:33,827
Speaker 18: So it's just that Zealand it's the toughest nut to crack.

1965
01:41:33,907 --> 01:41:34,507
Speaker 18: The All Blacks.

1966
01:41:35,147 --> 01:41:37,267
Speaker 2: I say, a toy Ather, what sort of shape is

1967
01:41:37,307 --> 01:41:37,547
Speaker 2: he in?

1968
01:41:38,507 --> 01:41:39,067
Speaker 6: Looking good?

1969
01:41:39,187 --> 01:41:42,027
Speaker 18: Knees strapped up, but looking really good. Yeah, I saw

1970
01:41:42,467 --> 01:41:45,747
Speaker 18: the iceman's looking good. Frank HALLI bigger than on what

1971
01:41:45,867 --> 01:41:49,587
Speaker 18: I thought, and definitely thought he was possibly a number

1972
01:41:49,627 --> 01:41:52,587
Speaker 18: eight or even maybe a front rower. But he scored

1973
01:41:52,627 --> 01:41:54,627
Speaker 18: it and away try so I take it all back,

1974
01:41:55,027 --> 01:41:57,187
Speaker 18: Frank Halla, he's still got it.

1975
01:41:57,867 --> 01:42:00,227
Speaker 2: And I got a message here at Troy Flavel and

1976
01:42:00,347 --> 01:42:02,987
Speaker 2: Hecker Elliott were there as well. By the sounds of things.

1977
01:42:03,667 --> 01:42:06,547
Speaker 18: Hecker looking like he still should be playing his very

1978
01:42:06,627 --> 01:42:09,627
Speaker 18: fit nehim Ilina Scudder as well. I mean I thought

1979
01:42:10,027 --> 01:42:12,227
Speaker 18: I thought he was too young, but he's actually thirty three.

1980
01:42:12,707 --> 01:42:16,027
Speaker 18: Troy Flavel forty eight years old, looking super young. I

1981
01:42:16,067 --> 01:42:19,347
Speaker 18: don't know what his secret is. It's either he's on

1982
01:42:19,467 --> 01:42:21,787
Speaker 18: the oil of olay or the natural glow, maybe a

1983
01:42:21,867 --> 01:42:26,347
Speaker 18: combination of the two. And yeah, forty eighth and looking

1984
01:42:26,427 --> 01:42:28,027
Speaker 18: fit as a fiddle, Troy flevel.

1985
01:42:28,547 --> 01:42:31,387
Speaker 2: Do you reckon Nihimlna scudder just because you've mentioned him

1986
01:42:31,387 --> 01:42:33,867
Speaker 2: as one of the great lost opportunities of all black

1987
01:42:34,027 --> 01:42:36,947
Speaker 2: rugby because of injury. I mean twenty fifteen Rugby World Cup, James,

1988
01:42:36,947 --> 01:42:40,507
Speaker 2: You'll remember this absolute star came home from there, you know,

1989
01:42:41,627 --> 01:42:44,107
Speaker 2: scoring tries at the World Cup. Looked like the world

1990
01:42:44,667 --> 01:42:47,067
Speaker 2: was at his feet. He would have played not even

1991
01:42:47,147 --> 01:42:49,747
Speaker 2: ten Test matches after that because of injury.

1992
01:42:49,547 --> 01:42:52,947
Speaker 18: Right exactly. And it's a shame as well, because it

1993
01:42:53,467 --> 01:42:55,467
Speaker 18: was he came along at a time when they actually

1994
01:42:55,547 --> 01:42:58,067
Speaker 18: really needed one of those multi skilled wingers. You look

1995
01:42:58,107 --> 01:43:01,107
Speaker 18: at other nations and they have them now, don't they.

1996
01:43:01,227 --> 01:43:05,107
Speaker 18: You know Ireland with Matt Hanson, these wingers who can

1997
01:43:05,227 --> 01:43:07,867
Speaker 18: kind of like great steppers, great on their feet. James

1998
01:43:07,947 --> 01:43:10,387
Speaker 18: Lowe probably qualifies as one of those wingers as though

1999
01:43:10,427 --> 01:43:13,867
Speaker 18: he's a bit beefier, but narhim Milna Scudder, the side

2000
01:43:13,907 --> 01:43:17,027
Speaker 18: step on him was amazing. But I think that he

2001
01:43:17,187 --> 01:43:19,707
Speaker 18: plugged that gap that we lost when we lost Charles

2002
01:43:19,747 --> 01:43:23,667
Speaker 18: Piertew we knew we needed or Ted Limith, Will Steve

2003
01:43:23,747 --> 01:43:27,587
Speaker 18: Hanson knew that we needed X factor and he was

2004
01:43:27,627 --> 01:43:29,387
Speaker 18: one of those all blacks always felt as well in

2005
01:43:29,427 --> 01:43:32,987
Speaker 18: their hair that no matter the occasion, he still just

2006
01:43:33,027 --> 01:43:35,987
Speaker 18: played exactly the same way. He wasn't overawed by anything.

2007
01:43:36,587 --> 01:43:39,467
Speaker 2: No, it was on because they took White sucking a

2008
01:43:39,547 --> 01:43:42,827
Speaker 2: hollow on that World Cup touring party as well. Remember

2009
01:43:42,827 --> 01:43:45,987
Speaker 2: they left Corey Jane and Israel dag out which was controversial,

2010
01:43:46,187 --> 01:43:49,467
Speaker 2: took Naholo and Milna Scudder. I've just checked the stats here, James.

2011
01:43:49,787 --> 01:43:52,947
Speaker 2: After the World Cup final in twenty fifteen Nearhi, Milna

2012
01:43:52,987 --> 01:43:57,987
Speaker 2: Scudder played just five more test matches. That is madness, madness,

2013
01:43:58,747 --> 01:43:59,307
Speaker 2: and he would have.

2014
01:43:59,307 --> 01:44:01,827
Speaker 18: Been after that World Cup final. You can imagine he

2015
01:44:01,867 --> 01:44:04,627
Speaker 18: probably would have been. He would have had advertisers, sponsors

2016
01:44:04,947 --> 01:44:08,267
Speaker 18: clamoring to get his services. But if I may segue,

2017
01:44:08,347 --> 01:44:14,067
Speaker 18: even though this is your show, onto another outstanding Hurricanes player, please,

2018
01:44:14,147 --> 01:44:16,747
Speaker 18: and this is probably going to hurt you, poney. But

2019
01:44:16,907 --> 01:44:20,067
Speaker 18: you've probably seen the news that Josh Morby will be

2020
01:44:20,187 --> 01:44:23,787
Speaker 18: going to Montpellier and fulfilling his contract in front, even

2021
01:44:23,827 --> 01:44:26,947
Speaker 18: though I understand that he was trying to get out

2022
01:44:26,947 --> 01:44:29,227
Speaker 18: of it and stay in New Zealand because he was

2023
01:44:29,347 --> 01:44:31,227
Speaker 18: getting very close to that all Black squad.

2024
01:44:31,627 --> 01:44:33,427
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's another one as he covers fall back

2025
01:44:33,467 --> 01:44:35,827
Speaker 2: as well, and back in fact plays played and plays

2026
01:44:35,867 --> 01:44:39,187
Speaker 2: a lot of fallback for Northland in particular terrific on

2027
01:44:39,267 --> 01:44:41,947
Speaker 2: the wing for the Hurricanes. Just I don't know, do

2028
01:44:42,027 --> 01:44:43,787
Speaker 2: you think he just thought did he look at the

2029
01:44:43,867 --> 01:44:45,787
Speaker 2: que ahead of him and think, you know what, there

2030
01:44:45,867 --> 01:44:47,427
Speaker 2: are a lot of guys in that queue, and I'm

2031
01:44:47,467 --> 01:44:51,467
Speaker 2: not really getting any indication that I'm moving up that queue.

2032
01:44:52,427 --> 01:44:54,387
Speaker 18: I think it's just a difference in pay when you're

2033
01:44:54,387 --> 01:44:57,227
Speaker 18: an up and coming player and suddenly an overseas club

2034
01:44:57,307 --> 01:44:59,667
Speaker 18: says we'll pay you what a superstar deserves, or you

2035
01:44:59,747 --> 01:45:02,627
Speaker 18: know what we think your star quality deserves, And so

2036
01:45:03,867 --> 01:45:06,987
Speaker 18: I think that was the tempting thing, and so he

2037
01:45:07,067 --> 01:45:09,667
Speaker 18: would have signed. I guess it's called a something like

2038
01:45:09,747 --> 01:45:11,667
Speaker 18: a pre contract, and I think to get out of

2039
01:45:11,747 --> 01:45:14,827
Speaker 18: that contract that costs one hundred and fifty thousand euros

2040
01:45:14,907 --> 01:45:18,267
Speaker 18: or something like that, and then you know everybody was

2041
01:45:18,307 --> 01:45:20,907
Speaker 18: probably keen for Josh to stay. Josh was probably keen

2042
01:45:20,947 --> 01:45:23,147
Speaker 18: to stay, but then they balk at that price tag.

2043
01:45:23,307 --> 01:45:27,467
Speaker 18: So another player who I think is really underrated athletically.

2044
01:45:27,507 --> 01:45:30,267
Speaker 18: I understand that when he was in Cambridge because his

2045
01:45:30,787 --> 01:45:33,787
Speaker 18: sister in law is Tory Peter's the javelin. He was

2046
01:45:33,827 --> 01:45:37,027
Speaker 18: in there training with Olympic athletes and they was saying

2047
01:45:37,107 --> 01:45:40,347
Speaker 18: his speed testing was off the chart. So you know,

2048
01:45:40,587 --> 01:45:43,267
Speaker 18: kind of a dark horse really, Josh Morby. But he'll

2049
01:45:43,267 --> 01:45:45,707
Speaker 18: be lost in his yellow rugby for two years at least.

2050
01:45:46,187 --> 01:45:48,467
Speaker 2: Thoroughly nice blood too. I'm not sure if you've had

2051
01:45:48,507 --> 01:45:50,227
Speaker 2: the chance to meet Josh Moreby, have you.

2052
01:45:51,787 --> 01:45:54,387
Speaker 18: Mate, He's the son of a tea on which a

2053
01:45:54,467 --> 01:45:56,867
Speaker 18: dairy farmer. Do you think I haven't met Josh Morby?

2054
01:45:57,027 --> 01:46:01,827
Speaker 18: Or mean, how do I know so much about Josh Morby? No,

2055
01:46:02,067 --> 01:46:05,667
Speaker 18: it's I actually haven't met him. I think maybe I've

2056
01:46:05,707 --> 01:46:10,267
Speaker 18: spoken to him on zoom, but I feel like i'd

2057
01:46:10,307 --> 01:46:11,747
Speaker 18: know him because he's from my hometown.

2058
01:46:12,307 --> 01:46:13,947
Speaker 2: Look, if he was walking down the street and you

2059
01:46:13,987 --> 01:46:16,027
Speaker 2: said good Josh, he'd say good James. In chat for

2060
01:46:16,067 --> 01:46:22,187
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. He's a terrific, terrific bloke. Yeah, great guy speaking.

2061
01:46:23,827 --> 01:46:24,507
Speaker 18: Sorry carry on.

2062
01:46:24,587 --> 01:46:26,547
Speaker 2: No, no, no, please, you were talking about some drama

2063
01:46:27,507 --> 01:46:28,467
Speaker 2: in football.

2064
01:46:28,107 --> 01:46:29,947
Speaker 18: In the world of football, I was thinking about yet

2065
01:46:30,467 --> 01:46:33,907
Speaker 18: clim Kover actually, and I known a lot of people

2066
01:46:33,947 --> 01:46:36,067
Speaker 18: out there might be might not be following the soap

2067
01:46:36,107 --> 01:46:40,267
Speaker 18: opera of the football fans coaching saga. But yeah, she's

2068
01:46:40,307 --> 01:46:42,947
Speaker 18: finally resigned, and I think this is I guess that

2069
01:46:43,067 --> 01:46:44,987
Speaker 18: an example of player power and action.

2070
01:46:45,547 --> 01:46:47,827
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt inevitable, didn't it. We had Andrew Pragnell

2071
01:46:47,867 --> 01:46:50,747
Speaker 2: on the show yesterday. They eventually did put him up

2072
01:46:50,787 --> 01:46:52,827
Speaker 2: to chat after a bit of a cone of silence

2073
01:46:52,907 --> 01:46:56,147
Speaker 2: on Friday when this news dropped. Yeah, and it felt

2074
01:46:56,307 --> 01:46:59,347
Speaker 2: very much as though there was just a huge disconnect

2075
01:46:59,587 --> 01:47:03,267
Speaker 2: between Yitka and a vast majority of those players. I

2076
01:47:03,347 --> 01:47:05,827
Speaker 2: think this is the right outcome. It's taken us quite

2077
01:47:05,827 --> 01:47:08,507
Speaker 2: a while to get here. I was actually sort of

2078
01:47:08,907 --> 01:47:10,747
Speaker 2: thinking on the drive in this morning, who might be

2079
01:47:11,627 --> 01:47:15,187
Speaker 2: a potential replacement for Yetka Klimkova. Do you think they

2080
01:47:15,347 --> 01:47:19,147
Speaker 2: might look at Paul Temple, the coach of the Wellington

2081
01:47:19,187 --> 01:47:20,227
Speaker 2: Phoenix women's team.

2082
01:47:21,387 --> 01:47:23,907
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think there's there's a name like Paul's will

2083
01:47:23,947 --> 01:47:27,587
Speaker 18: definitely be on the on their radar. I mean that

2084
01:47:27,907 --> 01:47:31,107
Speaker 18: there is something that needs to happen there with the

2085
01:47:31,147 --> 01:47:34,787
Speaker 18: football Ferns, that it needs a reboot, a refresh. But

2086
01:47:35,587 --> 01:47:38,947
Speaker 18: it was tough though, because I think you left the

2087
01:47:39,267 --> 01:47:42,107
Speaker 18: jog my memory. But the coach that took over it

2088
01:47:42,267 --> 01:47:44,827
Speaker 18: was it was always going to be a fractured situation

2089
01:47:44,987 --> 01:47:46,907
Speaker 18: where the team wasn't in a good space.

2090
01:47:47,347 --> 01:47:49,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael Mayne, he was one of the assistants. But

2091
01:47:49,347 --> 01:47:51,547
Speaker 2: the problem there, or one of the problems, was that

2092
01:47:52,027 --> 01:47:54,747
Speaker 2: the first time he took over, he found out like

2093
01:47:54,907 --> 01:47:58,187
Speaker 2: a day before. It wasn't like at any warning at all.

2094
01:47:58,587 --> 01:48:01,627
Speaker 2: When they went to Spain to play Japan, Michael Maine

2095
01:48:01,747 --> 01:48:03,987
Speaker 2: was going over there and arrived there and was all

2096
01:48:04,067 --> 01:48:06,747
Speaker 2: ready to do his role as assistant coach and obviously

2097
01:48:06,747 --> 01:48:08,147
Speaker 2: got a phone called or something and said, hey mate,

2098
01:48:08,147 --> 01:48:11,067
Speaker 2: you're in charge. So yeah, it was all very curious.

2099
01:48:11,907 --> 01:48:13,907
Speaker 18: Yeah, man, Mania is a great man.

2100
01:48:13,947 --> 01:48:14,507
Speaker 6: And that's the thing.

2101
01:48:14,627 --> 01:48:17,387
Speaker 18: It's you can't really judge someone on just having to

2102
01:48:17,467 --> 01:48:21,587
Speaker 18: do a caretaker job. But the one football story, I

2103
01:48:21,627 --> 01:48:23,187
Speaker 18: guess it was a bright light. Was it one or

2104
01:48:23,267 --> 01:48:25,507
Speaker 18: draw against the USA? From the All Whites, and I'm

2105
01:48:25,547 --> 01:48:28,987
Speaker 18: just thinking, this is this is the dawn of a

2106
01:48:29,067 --> 01:48:30,987
Speaker 18: new era. We didn't even have I don't think we

2107
01:48:31,107 --> 01:48:34,547
Speaker 18: had Sarpret sing playing. I don't think Elijah just was playing.

2108
01:48:35,347 --> 01:48:38,547
Speaker 2: Jah Elijah was there, Yeah, no, but no Sapriri Yeah no, Sapriq.

2109
01:48:38,667 --> 01:48:41,267
Speaker 2: A couple of others no, Callum Macowart, he wasn't there either.

2110
01:48:41,827 --> 01:48:43,747
Speaker 2: A couple of others who would be in and around

2111
01:48:43,747 --> 01:48:46,227
Speaker 2: the squad weren't there. So yeah, it was a I mean,

2112
01:48:46,267 --> 01:48:48,707
Speaker 2: the US are going through what they would probably call

2113
01:48:48,907 --> 01:48:52,107
Speaker 2: a rebuilding phase and they've got Marico Pochettino into to

2114
01:48:52,187 --> 01:48:54,427
Speaker 2: boss them around now. But you know, I think it

2115
01:48:54,547 --> 01:48:56,587
Speaker 2: was a I mean, when you draw one all with

2116
01:48:56,627 --> 01:48:59,347
Speaker 2: the team that's sixteenth in the world and you're ninety fourth.

2117
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Speaker 2: For what that's worth, it's a good result.

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Speaker 18: It's amazing. You're away from home in Cincinnati. They've got

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01:49:04,747 --> 01:49:07,187
Speaker 18: plus who's their one big super star. But I think,

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Speaker 18: you know, the collective, let's just call it the star

2121
01:49:10,907 --> 01:49:14,347
Speaker 18: power medium star power of the All Whites is good

2122
01:49:14,467 --> 01:49:18,987
Speaker 18: enough to match it with USA, And there's definitely some

2123
01:49:19,187 --> 01:49:22,347
Speaker 18: promising signs there and I think you can see the

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01:49:22,427 --> 01:49:26,147
Speaker 18: way that all those players make themselves available that and

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01:49:26,227 --> 01:49:28,147
Speaker 18: I'm sure Sarpret will as well. He just needed to

2126
01:49:28,187 --> 01:49:31,747
Speaker 18: find himself a club. I think he's in Portugal now. Yeah,

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01:49:31,787 --> 01:49:33,667
Speaker 18: it's just aug as well, isn't it For the future

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01:49:34,067 --> 01:49:34,347
Speaker 18: it does.

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01:49:34,467 --> 01:49:35,947
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how they go. They've

2130
01:49:35,987 --> 01:49:39,027
Speaker 2: got World Cup qualifies next and they should breeze through those.

2131
01:49:39,067 --> 01:49:42,987
Speaker 2: And as you know, it's it's automatic qualification for Oceania now,

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01:49:43,147 --> 01:49:45,187
Speaker 2: so by the back end of March next year we

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01:49:45,227 --> 01:49:47,507
Speaker 2: should have the all Whites confirmed that the twenty twenty

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01:49:47,547 --> 01:49:49,907
Speaker 2: six World Cup and then I guess the secret is

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01:49:50,147 --> 01:49:52,947
Speaker 2: James is to get some decent games like these ones

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01:49:52,987 --> 01:49:55,867
Speaker 2: against Mexico and the US to pan out those windows

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01:49:55,947 --> 01:49:58,427
Speaker 2: between March of next year and when the World Cup

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01:49:58,507 --> 01:50:00,827
Speaker 2: rolls around in kind of June and July of twenty

2139
01:50:00,907 --> 01:50:01,387
Speaker 2: twenty six.

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01:50:02,227 --> 01:50:02,427
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:50:02,507 --> 01:50:04,267
Speaker 18: And the other thing I think that needs to be

2142
01:50:04,347 --> 01:50:06,787
Speaker 18: noted for anyone who's just the medium sort of football

2143
01:50:06,827 --> 01:50:09,387
Speaker 18: fan and dips in and dips out, is that right

2144
01:50:09,507 --> 01:50:13,507
Speaker 18: now we've probably got the most creative squad that we've

2145
01:50:13,627 --> 01:50:17,587
Speaker 18: ever had. And even if it runs deep, you know,

2146
01:50:17,667 --> 01:50:19,427
Speaker 18: if you if you had to call someone else in,

2147
01:50:19,507 --> 01:50:23,667
Speaker 18: but if you've got Elijah just star pre seing being old,

2148
01:50:24,187 --> 01:50:27,747
Speaker 18: all these players who are actual, proper, you know, playmakers,

2149
01:50:27,907 --> 01:50:30,947
Speaker 18: creative creativity. I think Australia would be would be jealous

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01:50:31,027 --> 01:50:33,307
Speaker 18: of the squad. And then you've got people like Joey

2151
01:50:33,787 --> 01:50:37,187
Speaker 18: Champness who's come back to play for Auckland C. It's

2152
01:50:37,307 --> 01:50:40,147
Speaker 18: exciting times in that I'd call it a problem position

2153
01:50:40,627 --> 01:50:44,267
Speaker 18: for Southern Hemisphere or you know Oceania teams. We don't

2154
01:50:44,267 --> 01:50:46,387
Speaker 18: always produce those types of creative players.

2155
01:50:47,227 --> 01:50:51,107
Speaker 2: Don't forget Marco Rojas down here at Wellington Phoenix again, James, another.

2156
01:50:50,907 --> 01:50:52,707
Speaker 6: One goodness from Hamilton?

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01:50:53,227 --> 01:50:57,587
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, another one another from the mighty White Cuttle

2158
01:50:57,707 --> 01:50:59,747
Speaker 2: just before you go, did you catch up with the

2159
01:50:59,827 --> 01:51:02,347
Speaker 2: new format for Super Rugby next year? The eleven teams

2160
01:51:02,427 --> 01:51:05,627
Speaker 2: and the and the top six and the lucky losers

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01:51:05,667 --> 01:51:06,387
Speaker 2: and those sorts.

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01:51:06,227 --> 01:51:09,107
Speaker 18: Of Yeah, it's interesting man. I mean I think it

2163
01:51:09,387 --> 01:51:11,507
Speaker 18: mirrors a little bit of what the NRL does. I

2164
01:51:11,587 --> 01:51:15,067
Speaker 18: think the playoffs needs to be needed, some kind of

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01:51:15,107 --> 01:51:19,387
Speaker 18: shake up. I don't mind that is maths equations required.

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01:51:19,467 --> 01:51:23,427
Speaker 18: It just adds to the intrigue. So yeah, it's great

2167
01:51:23,507 --> 01:51:26,507
Speaker 18: to see. I always just when it comes to Super rugby.

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Speaker 18: You know, I always get excited about it, but then

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01:51:29,747 --> 01:51:32,787
Speaker 18: I just wonder, you know, how do they maximize it?

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Speaker 18: Because that Super Rugby semi final between the Chiefs and

2171
01:51:36,107 --> 01:51:40,347
Speaker 18: the Hurricanes was an absolute blockbuster, but still so many

2172
01:51:40,627 --> 01:51:43,427
Speaker 18: yellow seats. That's the challenge for Super Rugby.

2173
01:51:43,827 --> 01:51:46,427
Speaker 2: Absolutely always great to chat. James. Will try and get

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01:51:46,427 --> 01:51:48,547
Speaker 2: you back in your normal spot next Sunday, but I

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01:51:48,587 --> 01:51:51,467
Speaker 2: mean you will have many other commitments, I know. But

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01:51:52,627 --> 01:51:54,307
Speaker 2: let's get your people to talk to our people and

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01:51:54,667 --> 01:51:56,947
Speaker 2: we'll chat at some stage. I'm sure next Sunday.

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Speaker 18: See exactly you can. I'm sure our people can work

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01:52:00,067 --> 01:52:01,827
Speaker 18: it out. It's not going to be a Josh Morby situation.

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01:52:01,947 --> 01:52:02,907
Speaker 18: We'll be able to sort.

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01:52:02,787 --> 01:52:03,147
Speaker 13: This one now.

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01:52:04,827 --> 01:52:07,867
Speaker 2: Thanks. Indeed, James, only big part of our Sundays normally

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01:52:07,947 --> 01:52:10,387
Speaker 2: one forty five A bit later today, but always great

2184
01:52:10,387 --> 01:52:13,467
Speaker 2: to chat all sorts of sport with James on a

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01:52:13,547 --> 01:52:17,467
Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon. Twenty one away from three. Updating you from

2186
01:52:17,467 --> 01:52:21,507
Speaker 2: the ran Furley Shield defense in Blenham. Still very tight.

2187
01:52:21,627 --> 01:52:24,987
Speaker 2: Tasman five nill ahead Wellington had a try they thought

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01:52:25,027 --> 01:52:27,867
Speaker 2: that scored chalked off by the TMO. Tasman have just

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01:52:27,907 --> 01:52:31,227
Speaker 2: missed a penalty from a fairly handy position, so yeah,

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01:52:31,347 --> 01:52:34,427
Speaker 2: not a not a high scoring affair. Twenty nine minutes

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01:52:34,467 --> 01:52:38,947
Speaker 2: gone Tasman five, Wellington Neil. When we come back, we're

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01:52:38,987 --> 01:52:40,467
Speaker 2: in Sri Lanka with the Black Apps.

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01:52:41,827 --> 01:52:45,627
Speaker 1: The big issues on and after fields Call eight hundred

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01:52:45,707 --> 01:52:48,307
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Weekends Forward with Jason.

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01:52:48,067 --> 01:52:49,107
Speaker 3: Paine and GJ.

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Speaker 1: Gunnerhomes New Zealand's first trusted home Bilder News talks at Baby.

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Speaker 2: Two forty two. The black Caps are on their way

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Speaker 2: to Sri Lanka, where they'll play two Test matches against

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Speaker 2: the home side, both at Gaul International Stadium, the first

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01:53:03,147 --> 01:53:07,107
Speaker 2: of which starts on Wednesday, weather permitting, of course. Speaking

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01:53:07,147 --> 01:53:10,707
Speaker 2: of the weather, of course, the scheduled only Test between

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01:53:10,747 --> 01:53:15,307
Speaker 2: New Zealand and Afghanistan and India was completely abandoned due

2203
01:53:15,307 --> 01:53:18,827
Speaker 2: to rain. Not a single ball bowled across the five days,

2204
01:53:18,947 --> 01:53:23,587
Speaker 2: so any useful preparation that that might have provided completely

2205
01:53:23,707 --> 01:53:26,707
Speaker 2: lost to the black Caps, unfortunately. Coach of the side

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01:53:26,707 --> 01:53:28,627
Speaker 2: as Gary Steed, who joins us now, how do you

2207
01:53:28,747 --> 01:53:31,547
Speaker 2: reflect back on the last week, Gary and the frustration

2208
01:53:31,707 --> 01:53:34,547
Speaker 2: of not being able to get any cricket in at all?

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Speaker 24: Yeah, I mean, it was frustrating that we couldn't get

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01:53:38,787 --> 01:53:42,987
Speaker 24: on and play cricket, but fortunately the amount of rainment

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01:53:43,107 --> 01:53:46,027
Speaker 24: that came down made that sort of just a reality

2212
01:53:46,147 --> 01:53:49,347
Speaker 24: for us that we're looking forward to get into Sri

2213
01:53:49,427 --> 01:53:53,027
Speaker 24: Lanka now is obviously a big test series in front

2214
01:53:53,067 --> 01:53:56,027
Speaker 24: of us and starting in four or.

2215
01:53:55,987 --> 01:53:56,787
Speaker 15: Five days from now.

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01:53:57,147 --> 01:53:59,787
Speaker 2: Did it ever feel at any stage during the week

2217
01:53:59,867 --> 01:54:00,947
Speaker 2: like you might get some cricket?

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01:54:02,867 --> 01:54:03,587
Speaker 15: Yeah, not really.

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01:54:03,787 --> 01:54:06,107
Speaker 24: I mean, the sun obviously shone a little bit in

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01:54:06,187 --> 01:54:08,667
Speaker 24: the in the first couple of days, but that I

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01:54:08,707 --> 01:54:10,827
Speaker 24: think it was twelve hundred millimeters of rain over that

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01:54:12,267 --> 01:54:15,987
Speaker 24: sort of week period, so days three, four five, that

2223
01:54:16,067 --> 01:54:17,027
Speaker 24: didn't really stop.

2224
01:54:16,827 --> 01:54:19,507
Speaker 15: Raining at all. So yeah, it became pretty unrealistic.

2225
01:54:19,827 --> 01:54:21,467
Speaker 2: So how did you win the players past the time?

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01:54:22,507 --> 01:54:25,347
Speaker 24: Look, I mean the guys you generally go down to

2227
01:54:25,427 --> 01:54:28,587
Speaker 24: the ground early and just wait wait until the games

2228
01:54:28,667 --> 01:54:31,307
Speaker 24: either abandoned for the day and head back.

2229
01:54:31,267 --> 01:54:35,307
Speaker 15: Go to the gym. There's a bit of cards or

2230
01:54:35,467 --> 01:54:36,507
Speaker 15: monopoly deal.

2231
01:54:36,547 --> 01:54:41,387
Speaker 24: Or some scouting of the opposition and hallway cricket as well.

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01:54:41,547 --> 01:54:43,787
Speaker 24: So we've got a we had a nice little area

2233
01:54:43,867 --> 01:54:46,467
Speaker 24: there that guys could just make around a week bit in.

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01:54:47,107 --> 01:54:49,427
Speaker 2: I got some cricket and I guess how disappointing though,

2235
01:54:49,507 --> 01:54:52,427
Speaker 2: was this garry as a missed opportunity ahead of you know,

2236
01:54:52,507 --> 01:54:54,947
Speaker 2: some big tast matches against Sri Lanka and India.

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01:54:55,907 --> 01:54:58,667
Speaker 15: Yeah, there was no doubt. It is a missed opportunity.

2238
01:54:58,707 --> 01:55:01,987
Speaker 24: I mean, whilst there's no wild Tiest Championship points on it,

2239
01:55:02,067 --> 01:55:04,987
Speaker 24: it would still the opportunity for us, I think, to

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Speaker 24: get match hardened and and get in that I guess,

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01:55:08,547 --> 01:55:10,387
Speaker 24: real real game practice, and.

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01:55:11,907 --> 01:55:14,827
Speaker 15: Unfortunately that it wasn't to be the case. But the

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01:55:14,907 --> 01:55:16,627
Speaker 15: sort of the reasons that are out of our control.

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01:55:17,107 --> 01:55:20,107
Speaker 2: Does it make the Sri Lankan series more difficult without

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01:55:20,187 --> 01:55:23,307
Speaker 2: having had that warm up game if you like, But it.

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01:55:23,547 --> 01:55:25,027
Speaker 15: Definitely makes it more difficult.

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01:55:25,107 --> 01:55:27,827
Speaker 24: But look, we had three really good camps at home

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01:55:27,907 --> 01:55:32,667
Speaker 24: before we got over here on turning wickets, so it's

2249
01:55:32,747 --> 01:55:35,587
Speaker 24: not like guys haven't been preparing well. It just means

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01:55:35,667 --> 01:55:38,347
Speaker 24: that there's been a little bit of downtime. We still

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01:55:38,387 --> 01:55:42,307
Speaker 24: managed to train leading into the Test match and one

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01:55:42,347 --> 01:55:44,467
Speaker 24: of the days during the Test match as well, so

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01:55:45,507 --> 01:55:47,907
Speaker 24: it's not like the guys have been sitting doing absolutely nothing.

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01:55:48,267 --> 01:55:51,027
Speaker 2: Sri Lanka, how do you assess the threat that they'll

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01:55:51,187 --> 01:55:52,827
Speaker 2: present to you in these two Test matches.

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01:55:53,947 --> 01:55:54,147
Speaker 15: Yeah.

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01:55:54,347 --> 01:55:56,427
Speaker 24: I mean Sri Lanka are always tough, especially in their

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01:55:56,467 --> 01:55:58,507
Speaker 24: home conditions, and they've got a very good record at

2259
01:55:58,587 --> 01:56:00,827
Speaker 24: goal where we're playing both Test matches as well, so

2260
01:56:01,627 --> 01:56:04,707
Speaker 24: we're going to have to play very well. They are

2261
01:56:04,787 --> 01:56:08,187
Speaker 24: familiar with their conditions. It's one of the reasons we

2262
01:56:08,387 --> 01:56:11,547
Speaker 24: have bought Rangin our hero on board with us as well.

2263
01:56:11,867 --> 01:56:15,827
Speaker 24: He understands those local conditions and hopefully he can assist

2264
01:56:15,947 --> 01:56:18,787
Speaker 24: us in our thinking when it comes to match time.

2265
01:56:18,907 --> 01:56:19,067
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2266
01:56:19,067 --> 01:56:20,867
Speaker 2: Can you tell us a bit more about what he's added.

2267
01:56:21,107 --> 01:56:23,627
Speaker 2: Presumably he's been a valuable addition as you prepare for

2268
01:56:23,707 --> 01:56:24,147
Speaker 2: these matches.

2269
01:56:24,987 --> 01:56:28,827
Speaker 15: Yeah. Absolutely. I mean we've had Rangin Aran for.

2270
01:56:28,827 --> 01:56:32,667
Speaker 24: This last Test match and also Vikarim Latoire as well.

2271
01:56:32,787 --> 01:56:37,787
Speaker 24: He was the Indian batting coach and under Ravel Dravid.

2272
01:56:37,907 --> 01:56:40,747
Speaker 24: So we have tried to, I guess, get those guys

2273
01:56:40,827 --> 01:56:43,347
Speaker 24: in and around our group. And whilst there wasn't played,

2274
01:56:43,387 --> 01:56:46,147
Speaker 24: there's still certainly plenty of discussions that have been going on.

2275
01:56:46,587 --> 01:56:48,907
Speaker 2: Have you got an indication as to whether the weather

2276
01:56:49,307 --> 01:56:51,107
Speaker 2: will be better in Sri Lankan?

2277
01:56:51,947 --> 01:56:54,307
Speaker 24: Yeah, I would expect it will be, but look I

2278
01:56:54,387 --> 01:56:56,787
Speaker 24: mean we can't again, we can't control those things. So

2279
01:56:57,347 --> 01:56:59,147
Speaker 24: we'll get down there prepared as well as we can

2280
01:56:59,267 --> 01:57:01,627
Speaker 24: and hopefully we get five five great days.

2281
01:57:01,667 --> 01:57:03,627
Speaker 2: And do you feel confident you can match the Shri

2282
01:57:03,707 --> 01:57:04,987
Speaker 2: Lankans and these two Test matches?

2283
01:57:05,547 --> 01:57:07,307
Speaker 15: Yeah, we went to Sri Lanka.

2284
01:57:07,387 --> 01:57:10,187
Speaker 24: We had a one all draw with them in the

2285
01:57:10,267 --> 01:57:12,987
Speaker 24: Test series, so we certainly know we can win over there.

2286
01:57:13,067 --> 01:57:14,787
Speaker 15: But then they'll be buoyed by.

2287
01:57:14,707 --> 01:57:17,267
Speaker 24: Their recent Test victory over England and England as well,

2288
01:57:17,387 --> 01:57:21,427
Speaker 24: so they are certainly playing a good brand of cricket

2289
01:57:21,467 --> 01:57:21,787
Speaker 24: as well.

2290
01:57:21,907 --> 01:57:23,267
Speaker 15: But I mean, you come back to.

2291
01:57:23,707 --> 01:57:26,787
Speaker 24: To Sri Lanka, I'm sure their makeup of their team

2292
01:57:26,827 --> 01:57:29,547
Speaker 24: will look different as well as ours does from our

2293
01:57:29,627 --> 01:57:30,347
Speaker 24: home conditions.

2294
01:57:30,747 --> 01:57:33,547
Speaker 2: And a current look at the World Test Championship table

2295
01:57:33,667 --> 01:57:35,507
Speaker 2: shows you've got some work to do if you want

2296
01:57:35,587 --> 01:57:39,507
Speaker 2: to make another World Test Championship final, including winning a

2297
01:57:39,587 --> 01:57:41,787
Speaker 2: few of these upcoming tests on the sub contin and

2298
01:57:41,827 --> 01:57:44,067
Speaker 2: they get Sri Lanka and against India. Is that a

2299
01:57:44,147 --> 01:57:45,107
Speaker 2: daunting prospect for you?

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01:57:45,187 --> 01:57:45,427
Speaker 14: Gary?

2301
01:57:46,667 --> 01:57:48,787
Speaker 24: Look, it's not something we think about a lot. We

2302
01:57:48,907 --> 01:57:52,707
Speaker 24: know where we sit at the moment. To make that final,

2303
01:57:52,787 --> 01:57:54,387
Speaker 24: you've got to be in the top two teams, which

2304
01:57:54,627 --> 01:57:57,227
Speaker 24: normally means you've got to be up around that sixty

2305
01:57:57,347 --> 01:58:00,427
Speaker 24: to seventy percent sort of area win rates. So that

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01:58:00,587 --> 01:58:03,347
Speaker 24: means we probably have to win five or six of

2307
01:58:03,427 --> 01:58:06,307
Speaker 24: the next nine tests and that is going to be

2308
01:58:06,387 --> 01:58:08,027
Speaker 24: a tough ass, but I think this team.

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01:58:07,907 --> 01:58:08,667
Speaker 15: Is capable of it.

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01:58:08,827 --> 01:58:10,867
Speaker 2: All right, thanks for joining us, Gary, appreciate it all

2311
01:58:10,867 --> 01:58:13,107
Speaker 2: the best for these two test matches. Gary Stead, coach

2312
01:58:13,147 --> 01:58:16,027
Speaker 2: of the black Caps. First Test Againstri Lanka starts on Wednesday.

2313
01:58:16,187 --> 01:58:18,947
Speaker 2: Pretty friendly viewing times for us on the side of

2314
01:58:18,947 --> 01:58:21,507
Speaker 2: the world. Four point thirty in the afternoon the day's

2315
01:58:21,547 --> 01:58:24,587
Speaker 2: play will start, so go through to close to midnight presumably,

2316
01:58:25,187 --> 01:58:27,547
Speaker 2: and let's hope there's actually some cricket to watch. By

2317
01:58:27,547 --> 01:58:28,787
Speaker 2: the sounds of it and by the looks of the

2318
01:58:28,827 --> 01:58:33,227
Speaker 2: forecast and the weather conditions in Gaul compared to where

2319
01:58:33,227 --> 01:58:36,067
Speaker 2: they were in India for the Afghanistan Test, it looks

2320
01:58:36,067 --> 01:58:39,787
Speaker 2: as though cricket is a lot more likely. Just want

2321
01:58:39,787 --> 01:58:42,867
Speaker 2: to finish with some boxing because David Nika has easily

2322
01:58:42,947 --> 01:58:46,987
Speaker 2: dealt with veteran American Tommy Carpenzi inside three rounds in

2323
01:58:47,147 --> 01:58:50,147
Speaker 2: his homecoming fight, his first in New Zealand since his

2324
01:58:50,227 --> 01:58:53,467
Speaker 2: pro debut three years ago. His tenth victory David Nica

2325
01:58:53,707 --> 01:58:57,747
Speaker 2: ninth by stoppage. Carpenci never really any match for Nika.

2326
01:58:57,987 --> 01:59:01,027
Speaker 2: He did the damage with multiple heavy body shots in

2327
01:59:01,107 --> 01:59:03,227
Speaker 2: the first couple of rounds. So how does he reflect

2328
01:59:03,627 --> 01:59:05,187
Speaker 2: on the fight in an overall sense?

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Speaker 20: It was a nick start, like I would have liked

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Speaker 20: to have gotten straight into it. I hate when the

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Speaker 20: crowd goes quiet, but like, no, it was good.

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Speaker 19: I did what I had to do.

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Speaker 20: I was patient enough. I still think I could have

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Speaker 20: set my shots up a little bit better. There are

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Speaker 20: a few times where I swung a little bit wid

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Speaker 20: not wildly, but just offended a little bit too too aggressively.

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Speaker 20: But it's my first big show, first big headlining act,

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Speaker 20: so it's a step.

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Speaker 6: In the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Does he feel though he needs tougher opponents now.

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Speaker 20: I'd like tougher opposition. Tonight you saw Tommy give up

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Speaker 20: to a certain degree. I need guys that are gonna

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Speaker 20: push me and test me because that's where you'll see

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Speaker 20: the best. David Yucker and to his credit, he did

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Speaker 20: everything he could. But you know, I want to get

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Speaker 20: taken to the trenches because that's where.

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Speaker 2: I'll throve and does David. You can feel it'll be

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01:59:54,747 --> 01:59:57,627
Speaker 2: tougher though, to find worthy opponents, given how comprehensive this

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Speaker 2: victory was.

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Speaker 20: No, I don't think so. I think I was too

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Speaker 20: big for Tommy. I think that became apparent when he

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Speaker 20: couldn't me up on the inside, he couldn't move me.

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Speaker 20: I think there are a lot of names out there

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Speaker 20: that I called out. I called out Robin so Far

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Speaker 20: before my last fight in Saudi, and that's that's a

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Speaker 20: fight that I think would be really attractive. And if

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Speaker 20: if the Saudi's want that fight, we can take it

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Speaker 20: to Saldi. I know there's big, a big card with

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Speaker 20: Chris Bill and Smith and Zerda Ramirez. They'll be unifying

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Speaker 20: two bolts. I'd love to I love to be on

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Speaker 20: that card. If not that card, I'd love to get

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Speaker 20: on the December card with the Fury You Sick number two.

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Speaker 20: That might make sense to have to have myself in

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Speaker 20: so Far on that card. But I loved I loved

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Speaker 20: everything about tonight. Tonight was was an awesome experience and

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Speaker 20: I just felt so at home, And you know, it

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Speaker 20: was probably one of the most relaxing warm ups and

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Speaker 20: entrances I've ever had. You know, just knowing that everybody's

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Speaker 20: in my corner, knowing that I've got all the support

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Speaker 20: from ALTA at all and obviously having the likes of

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Speaker 20: Manuka Doctor behind this event has has made at what

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Speaker 20: it is and you know, everybody had a great night.

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Speaker 20: The undercard was incredible. We can, we can, we can

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Speaker 20: take this to the world, you know, especially with with

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Speaker 20: the Zone backing us our global platform. We've got so

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Speaker 20: much to so much to prove here and old all

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Speaker 20: and we've got so much talent. I love, I love

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Speaker 20: to see Jackson England and Alex Learpi Junr doing well.

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Speaker 20: That was an amazing knockout by by my my little

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Speaker 20: big my big little brother, you know, such a such

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Speaker 20: a cool night and great way to great way to

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Speaker 20: top it off and yeah, looking forward to doing it again.

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Speaker 2: That is David Nika after his easy win over the

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Speaker 2: veteran American Tommy cup Pency in Auckland last night, Night

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Speaker 2: Away from Three, New Stalks.

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Speaker 1: From breaking down the Hail Mary's and the weekend Sport

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Speaker 1: with Jason yin News Talk zen.

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Speaker 2: B five and a half Away from Three. That is

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Speaker 2: US four Weekend Sport for today and for the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Tim Beveridge will join you after three o'clock with the

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Speaker 2: Sunday Edi Year of the Weekend Collective. We're back on

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Speaker 2: Sports Talk tomorrow night between seven and eight. Huge thanks

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Speaker 2: to Andy McDonald for producing the show. Thanks mate, enjoy

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Speaker 2: your weekend off. Next weekend we'll get by without you,

2395
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Speaker 2: so see you in a couple of weeks. Enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in. It's always a pleasure to

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Speaker 2: have you joining the show or just listening, and we

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Speaker 2: appreciate how busy your lives are. Thank you for spending

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Speaker 2: some of it with us. Eight three Tasmin lead Wellington

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Speaker 2: at halftime in the Shield Defense in Blenham, speaking of which,

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Speaker 2: the song to take Us Out Today was number one

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Speaker 2: the last time there was a ran Furly Shield Defense

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Speaker 2: in Blenham, when Marlborough lost it at the back end

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Speaker 2: of their tenure, which was in the middle of nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventy four. Number one on the charts that day was

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Speaker 2: Wings with Paul McCartney up front and band on the run.

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Speaker 2: I believe this song is fifty years old. Enjoy your

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Speaker 2: Sunday Said Tomorrow night five an out.

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Speaker 1: Bad.

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Speaker 21: Bad on the road, bad, un.

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Speaker 2: Bad down the roads, really nice was falling into the desert.

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Speaker 2: World began to set down.

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Speaker 1: In the town.

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Speaker 2: The searching for us everywhere, but we never builp.

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Speaker 21: Bad And on the run, on the road, the county.

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Speaker 1: Men, the drous.

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Speaker 21: Search forever all or the Band of Round.

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Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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