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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine

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Speaker 1: from newstalk edb SO. Tad through the line, through the

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Speaker 1: nice past within a crown over. That's getting meat of mics.

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Speaker 2: Get past with the right sever race, prace away, prace

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Speaker 2: for the mine, sever race gets the All Blacks first.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first of five tries for the All Blacks

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Speaker 3: last night thirty three thirteen winners over the Wallabies or

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Speaker 3: Blacks Assistant coach Scott Hansen is with us. Good afternoon, Scott.

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Speaker 3: What pleased you most about last night?

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Speaker 2: The last number of weeks, We've had some really good

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Speaker 2: weeks in regards to preparation and last night we just

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Speaker 2: stepped some bitter moments into our performance. So the most

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Speaker 2: pleasing thing for us is probably how we controlled the

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Speaker 2: territory and applied pressure on Australia down here into the field,

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Speaker 2: and there was moments in those games where we had

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Speaker 2: really good control, So pleasing around that. Also, defensively, the

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Speaker 2: boys put in some really good sets really around the

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Speaker 2: goal line d and they shared a lot of confidence

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Speaker 2: and courage to defend the line. So some pleasing moments.

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Speaker 3: I was going to ask about that, the line defense,

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Speaker 3: especially started the game and then again latter stages of

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Speaker 3: the second half, even though in the second half the

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Speaker 3: result was pretty secure. How proud do you feel of

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Speaker 3: a team that is still willing to put their bodies

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Speaker 3: on the line like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all very much so. It's sort of expected in

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Speaker 2: the all black jersey, but in Australia are very good

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Speaker 2: attack in side. They showed some subtlety and some adapts

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Speaker 2: to their attack, attacked some different areas and it challenged

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Speaker 2: us and it was really good to see that the

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Speaker 2: great work that Times has done defensively and the leaders

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Speaker 2: out there doing a really good job around just staying composed.

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Speaker 2: Really with defense, you've got to endure sometimes and we

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Speaker 2: did a good job and enduring and got a old

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Speaker 2: card in the end, which has been a work on

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Speaker 2: for us. And that's it's basically a lot of pressure

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Speaker 2: building up, but overall we're pleased with for a lot

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Speaker 2: of years of our game.

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Speaker 3: Last night, so test matches down for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Are you where you want to be?

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Speaker 2: Oh? There's definitely things for us just to work on

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Speaker 2: and we continue to. There are still areas in that

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Speaker 2: game last night example, whether that's skill set, execution, or

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Speaker 2: maybe even some game structure that we've got to continue

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Speaker 2: to evolve overall, we're building, As I said Mayter, our

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Speaker 2: weeks have been good around our preparation. I thought barriers

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Speaker 2: have keptain. Last night really controlled the game well around

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Speaker 2: as game management, understanding where to put Australia into the

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Speaker 2: corner or taking points. So a lot of really good

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Speaker 2: growth in that game. But we're always looking to be

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Speaker 2: better obviously.

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Speaker 3: So as you start thinking about the end of year too,

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Speaker 3: which areas will take most of your focus as you

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Speaker 3: look for further improvement?

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Speaker 2: The key it will be the group sitting down and gain.

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Speaker 2: What are the three key areas in our game to

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Speaker 2: focus on? In many regards, the less is better? So

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Speaker 2: what does that look like in our game? It's just

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Speaker 2: controlling territory. It's been composed or anything out of our

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Speaker 2: heart and a buying pressure. We saw last night in

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Speaker 2: moments there where we held possession we look really dominant.

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Speaker 2: I mean in some other stages there we went always

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Speaker 2: as Florence as we could have been around attacking space.

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Speaker 2: So what does that look like in Europe? Understand the

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Speaker 2: conditions bring some very very good teams at home up there.

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Speaker 2: It's a massive challenge going up there for us, but

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Speaker 2: one we've already connected on today as a group and

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Speaker 3: Is starting first five in this team still a live

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Speaker 2: It should be. It should be because when you're beginning

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Speaker 2: What we're focused on is giving dmac don't to steer

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Speaker 2: this team and led it. And he's done that really well.

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Speaker 2: And he's only had a number of starts really consistently

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Speaker 2: this year, he's done really well building that. What we

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Speaker 2: have to do also, Jason has built depth around that

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Speaker 2: and Body was given that opportunity last night to lead

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Speaker 2: thing for us is just building that depth around our

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Speaker 2: be is out there leading the team, putting the ball

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Speaker 2: in front of the team, getting us in the right

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Speaker 2: areas of the field, and it'll be a work on

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Speaker 2: for us right through. So really happy with where Dmax

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Speaker 2: at Body came in last night established his presence on

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Speaker 3: They're both quite different players, aren't they, Scott. Can they

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Speaker 2: Well, the beauty there is that they've got there Obviously,

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Speaker 2: they are different skills and skill sets around how they

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Speaker 2: lead let us around the field. Still in Damn came

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Speaker 2: on last night, just his intent to get to the line,

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Speaker 2: his ability to ship a short pass where his body was,

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Speaker 2: his experience and gay management, just getting us into locations

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Speaker 2: that allow us to fly pressure. The gifts and the

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Speaker 2: beauty that we have with both of his outstanding players

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Speaker 2: is they have different subsilties in their game which we need.

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Speaker 2: And then he added will Ordan and likes around that.

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Speaker 2: And now we've got game managers across the field, so

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Speaker 2: we're continue to put it. But I thought a body

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Speaker 2: coming on last night and for the week give us

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Speaker 2: some great experience. And again, if I said for us

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Speaker 2: has been leading up really well.

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Speaker 3: Also, Cam Roy, God's been with the group this week.

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Speaker 3: You reckon. He's on track to be in contention for

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Speaker 3: the end of view tour.

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Speaker 2: He's looking really good. He's come in. We just wanted

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Speaker 2: medical and making sure that he's where he needs to

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Speaker 2: be also with our sessions allowed us as coaches to

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Speaker 2: see him and he's a great athlete. He's in a

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Speaker 2: really good spot. He needs putty. He's possibly got a

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Speaker 2: game or two coming up Counties. There's no rush. We'll

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Speaker 2: do what's best, what we feel for home and the

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Speaker 2: team obviously, but excited to have Cam back in the

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Speaker 3: So you've been carrying three half backs during the Rugby Championship.

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Speaker 3: Cam makes four. How are you going to decide which

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Speaker 3: three you take with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good question, and that's something as all that selectors

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Speaker 2: will sit down and make those decisions, both around what's

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Speaker 2: best for us on the tour. And we've had an

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Speaker 2: iron building for the future and no one's been in

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Speaker 2: done a fantastic job around just being in an all

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Speaker 2: black environment. He's learned what an all black test week

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Speaker 2: looks like. He's contributed really well. And now look at

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Speaker 2: the lake forward, So it'll be some good conversations around that. Sure.

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Speaker 3: I saw you share a nice little moment post match

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Speaker 3: with Wallace Titi last night. Just a nice little handshake

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Speaker 3: and a bit of a hug. As Sam Kane was

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Speaker 3: preparing to get his presentation for one hundred tests, what

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Speaker 3: sort of All Black's future do you predict for Wallace

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Speaker 3: a Tti.

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Speaker 2: So truously when you talk about Wallace a t as

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Speaker 2: a young man, a beautiful soul, very humble, his strong

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Speaker 2: is as a young man, and then you look at

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Speaker 2: Wallace as an All Black? Was he young All Black?

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Speaker 2: And he's taking test to test and the key thing

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Speaker 2: for us is to get him to enjoy his weeks

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Speaker 2: to build his game. Yes, he's playing very well, supporting

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Speaker 2: him around that, but also understanding that he's a young

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Speaker 2: he's a young All Black and he's still learning his craft.

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Speaker 2: As exciting as he is. What his future looks like

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Speaker 2: is we all hope what we're seeing at the moment

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Speaker 2: he continues to grow his game, the physicality that he has,

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Speaker 2: that beautiful change of speed when he takes it to

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Speaker 2: and then for the young man to continue to get

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Speaker 2: for work. That's really exciting for you still learn All

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Speaker 2: up and owning what's in front of him now.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, and during the Australian post match media conference last night,

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Speaker 3: we could hear a pretty stirring harker echoing through the

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Speaker 3: wall from your changing shed, presumably for Sam Kane. Can

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Speaker 3: you tell us how special it was on there after

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Speaker 3: the game?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, you know myself personally is about

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Speaker 2: to sit in the circle and watch an all Black

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Speaker 2: be on it around achieving one hundred tests, which Sam's

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Speaker 2: the thirteenth guy and All Black history to do that.

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Speaker 2: So firstly a privileged to be there and to see it,

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Speaker 2: the ultimate respect for and all Blacks, for your team

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Speaker 2: to get up and perform the hucker for you in

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Speaker 2: respect of what you've done for the jersey and you

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Speaker 2: are as a man. And the last night TJ left

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Speaker 2: that for Sam. Sam had his family in the room.

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Speaker 2: It was a really special moment for all involved. And

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Speaker 2: then Sam accepted the challenge and huck it back to

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Speaker 2: the All Blacks and it was a beautiful moment that

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Speaker 2: will be remembered for a long time.

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Speaker 3: I bet congrats on the win. Scott thanks for your

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Speaker 3: time this afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I think it is back. Good to talk to here,

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Speaker 2: No good to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: Too, Scott. Thanks indeed, Scott Hanson, Assistant coach of the

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