1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Ryan Bridge you 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture beds and a play at store us Dogs. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, Welcome to your Tuesday our lead 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: interview before six this morning. Seventy percent of employers don't 6 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: reckon that NCA level one is basically any good GP 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: referrals for surgeries. If you've got one of those, we'll 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: look out. We'll tell you more about why that's a worry. 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: Plus the cop shop in Auckland City and why it 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: won't solve all of our problems. Donnad Tomato out of 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 2: Australia this morning. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 3: Too, the agenda. 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, the twenty sixth of November, but great 14 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: to have your company this morning. On Israel, the BBC 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: reporting that a ceasefire breakthrough has been made not with 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Hamas but with his buller in Lebanon. Apparently Netanyahu's agreed 17 00:00:59,080 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: in private to it. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 4: There are issues and the primary concern that we've understood 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: from the Israeli said all along is that if this 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: sixty day ceasefire, if that gets up and running, as well, 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 4: wants the rate to straight back if Hasbula breaks. The 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 4: terms of the ceasefire. 23 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Still needs to be signed off by the Israeli cabinet, 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: which apparently is going to vote tomorrow. The deal broker 25 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: by the United States. US researchers reckon that North Korea 26 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: is cranking up production of short range ballistic missiles. Why 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: would they be doing that while they're being used in 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 2: the war in Ukraine by Russia allegedly, So, there's a 29 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 2: factory and they've found satellite images assessing the construction work 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: that's taking place at this facility in ham hung This 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: is northeast of the capital Pyongyang. Both Moscow and Pyongyang 32 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: deny that North Korea has provided weapons for Russia's war 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: in Ukraine, but who believes them. Thousands of supporters calling 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: for the recent run Khan have clashed with police as 35 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: they make their way to Pakistan's capital as Lumbard. 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 5: The security forces have been using stun grenade as well 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 5: as tear gash to disperse the crowd. However, this is 38 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 5: a very large group of protesters. 39 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: He's been in jail, by the way, since last August 40 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: on multiple convictions. Some of those, though, have already been overturned. 41 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: Seventeen people are missing after a tourist boat sank in 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: the Red Sea off the coast of Egypt. Twenty eight 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: were rescued, with some people airlifted hospital. Egyptian authorities say 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 2: there were warnings about rough seas before the thinking took place. 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: News and Views you trust to start your day. 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. 48 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: News Talk said the. 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 2: Wall Street's gone a bit nuts this morning. Record highs 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 2: reached twenty six out of the thirty large US companies 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: on the dour up in first trading this morning about 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: an hour. And the reason they reckon is because of 53 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's pick. There's billionaire hedge fund manager Scott Besson 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: who is going to be the next US Treasury secretary. 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: Apparently safe pair of hands. He's worked with the Democrats, 56 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 2: he's worked with the Republicans before. And how will he 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: moderate Trump's tariffs? How will he moderate his let's boot 58 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: the migrants out of America, which it's expected. Both of 59 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: those things will push up inflation, which is obviously not 60 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: a good thing. So how will he moderate those things? 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: Apparently the markets like him and trust him and think 62 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: he's quite a pragmatic, safe pair of hands, quite a 63 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: reasonable guy. So there you go. That's happening this morning. 64 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: Also in Wellington. Got to just get sick of reading 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: about Wellington at the moment. There's this stupid city to 66 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: see bridge. Has anyone ever seen that? It's hideous anyway? 67 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: So what do they do? They want to demolish it 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: because there's something wrong with it, or it's not safe 69 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: or whatever, So what do they do? Open it up 70 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: for feedback? Honestly, who cares what people think about demolishing 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: this hideous bridge that goes from the city to the sea. 72 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: You probably know the one. I mean, it looks like 73 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, let's like someone's tried to build a 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: playground on top of a bridge anyway, ugly. In late October, 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: the Wellington City Council asked for feedback on its future plans. 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: Why just demolish it if it needs to go, it 77 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: needs to go anyway. The feedback has been very bad 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: for them. Eighty were against either of the new options proposed, 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: one of which was demolishing the bridge entirely. Seventeen said 80 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: they supported building a new bridge with an accompanying pedestrian crossing. Sorry, 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: you've got a bridge going across a busy road I 82 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: might say a very busy road. That it's sort of 83 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: an arterial route that gets you from your main road. 84 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: You state Highway one, you go past the stadium for 85 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: those in o Sky Stadium, you keep going around to 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: the waterfront. That's the road we're talking about. Why would 87 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: you build a pedestrian crossing as well as an overbridge 88 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 2: for walking? Anyway? Good luck Wellington eleven after five Graham Bridge. 89 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: Tell you who's not upset or angry this morning, and 90 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: that is Christopher Luxon. He put up this press release 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: yesterday and I just want to read you. Does this 92 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: resonate with you? He says, I'm aspirational for New Zealanders 93 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: and I'm energized about our ongoing fight to rebuild this nation. 94 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: He sees in Phacians two point two percent. Well, you 95 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: can't argue with that. Wages have grown faster than Infasian 96 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: for four quarters. The family boost childcare has come through. 97 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: Police foot patrols are up thirty percent, ram raids are 98 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: down in sixty percent. Six hundred million dollars has been 99 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: invested in farmac. If does that resonate with you. Do 100 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: you feel good about where we're going as a country. 101 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 2: He's put out a press release marking his first year 102 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 2: in government. Nine two ninety two is the number to texts. 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: Twelve after five News talks there be. 104 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 6: Let's keep. 105 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 106 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New 107 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a flying Store. 108 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: News Talks. 109 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: It'd be good morning to you everyone. Fourteen after five. 110 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Donna Demayo out of Australia 111 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: just before six this morning because it's a big day 112 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: for their social media ban. I'll tell you more about 113 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: that shortly. Right now, though, gps are warning that patients 114 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: who desperately need hospital treatment are increasingly not even making 115 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: it onto waiting lists. A letter lead to the media 116 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: from Parveston North Hospital's Orthopedic clinic to a GP earlier 117 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 2: this year confirms referrals are being knocked back due to 118 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: a lack of resources. What exactly does this mean? Luke 119 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: Bradford is the Royal New Zealand College of GP's medical 120 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 2: Directors with us this morning. 121 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 7: Look, good morning morning, Ryan, how are you. 122 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: I'm well, thank you. What exactly is the problem here? 123 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 7: So there's always been a way of triaging patients according 124 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 7: to need, but traditionally that level and what society would 125 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 7: accept is that level of need would be justifiable that 126 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 7: people would have conditions seen when they needed to be 127 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 7: seen to manage their symptoms. What's happening is as demands 128 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 7: go on the system and it's creaking, and we knowver 129 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 7: health targets, have people been seen within four months and 130 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 7: operated on quickly. One way of managing that is to 131 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 7: not take patients onto lists in the first place. 132 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 2: So patients who would ordinarily go on to a list 133 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: and not being put onto a list. And this is 134 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: a new thing after the targets have been introduced or 135 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: has this always happened? 136 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 7: So it's always happened the list. The acceptance level fluctuates, 137 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 7: it goes up and down according to demandond but when 138 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 7: the system is under pressure, often that threshold rises and 139 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 7: so people have to have to be really really unwell 140 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 7: or really disabled in order to be seen. What we're 141 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 7: not having is confirmation, but it's occurring, but it seems 142 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 7: anecdotally that that's likely. 143 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: When you say they have to be how disabled do 144 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: you have to be to need a knee replacement. 145 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 8: Ah. 146 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 7: I mean it can be really bad at the moment. 147 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 7: I've had patients who are essentially in wheelchairs are still 148 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 7: waiting nine to twelve months having to go onto opioid medicines, 149 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 7: needing full time care. It can be quite severe. 150 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: And these people you're talking about. If you're on opioids 151 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: and you're in a wheelchair because you need a knee replacement, 152 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: surely you're on the list. 153 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're on the list. Just the list is long. 154 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: So if you could right, okay's is very long. But 155 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: if you can walk, you may not be on the list. 156 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: Ah. 157 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 7: But I think that's it's not necessarily that black and white. 158 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 7: But often people will get put on the lesson then 159 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 7: week so long with they'll end up in a chair 160 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 7: by the time they are operated. 161 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 2: Okay, Luke, thank you for that. Luke Bradford, who's the 162 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: Royal New Zealand College of GP's medical director. I mean 163 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: it's not great, is it? Seventeen minutes after five? If 164 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: you're run in a wheelchair on opioids and not on 165 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: a waiting list, please text me because you should be 166 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: for goodness sakes, nine two ninety two is the number 167 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: or on News Talks in. 168 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: Being the first word on the News of the day 169 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and sim City New Zealand's 170 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: furniture beds and a player store. 171 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: You Talks did twenty after five. We'll look at NCA 172 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: level one just before six this morning. Lots of feedback. 173 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 8: Ryan. 174 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: It's not a doctor shortage. We've been talking about the 175 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,599 Speaker 2: wait list. Ryan, it's not a doctor shortage. This is 176 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: from Steve. It's a surplus of fat lazy people. I mean, 177 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: there'll probably be a bit of that, but you can't 178 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: blame all knee and hip operation requirements on fat lazy 179 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: people age, Steve, don't they? Morning Ryan. This is the 180 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: problem with New Zealand. This is on the Wellington Sea 181 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: to what is it called the Sea to Wharf Bridge 182 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: City to See bridge, the ugly thing you drive under 183 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: and they want to replace it and no one really 184 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: knows why. And they want to replace it with not 185 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: just another bridge, but a pedestrian crossing underneath it as well. 186 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: Good morning Ryan. That's the problem with New Zealand. We 187 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: cater to the minority. We have thousands of cars going 188 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 2: under that bridge and someone suggests a pedestrian traffic light 189 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: for one person. If if s rebuild the bridge and 190 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: carry on, says Erica. It is twenty one after five. 191 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 3: Now, Ryan Bridge. 192 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Ay, they're doing something right in Aukland, though, aren't they. 193 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Business is happy. The police are moving back into the CBD. 194 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 2: There's going to be a new police station on Federal Street, 195 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy meters from the old police station, 196 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 2: which was closed a few years ago. Vivbck's with Heart 197 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: of the City. Viv, good morning, you're happy. 198 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 9: Good morning, very happy, Thank you. 199 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: Great news. But what about the d How many police 200 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: officers are going in here? How many extra on the beat? 201 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: Do you know? 202 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 9: Well, the goal at the moment is these fifty one, 203 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 9: and I think we've got another eight to bring that 204 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 9: up to fifty one. We are noticing the difference from that. 205 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 9: But we have said all along that with the CRL 206 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 9: coming on board, we are going to need more because 207 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 9: at the moment we've got about a million people counted 208 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 9: walking around in the core central to the area every week. 209 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 9: But we've got people working, studying, visiting, you know, and 210 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 9: that's for us to grow. So we are going to 211 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 9: need more. But I think, you know, one step at 212 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 9: a time. This is a key piece of the safety 213 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 9: solution we've been after. It's a visibility presence right in 214 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 9: the downtown area. And actually that location is good because 215 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 9: that station is expected to be the busiest one in 216 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 9: New Zealand. It's a central location to get up to 217 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 9: K Road downtown. 218 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: How many people will you get through that station? 219 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 7: Do you know? 220 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 10: Well? 221 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 9: I think, I mean the plans originally we're talking about 222 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 9: fifty four thousand an hour. That's when all those extra 223 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 9: crossings and things that they're talking about are up and 224 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 9: running and ranking optimally. So that'll take a little while, 225 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 9: but that is going to be a really busy area. 226 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 9: So you know, you probably weren't. I was a young 227 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 9: person in New York in the eighties when the set 228 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 9: when the underground was very very unsafe, only for being 229 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 9: there with my parents. 230 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 7: We've got to. 231 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 9: Get this safe, and so having police in that location 232 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 9: and having enough of them is going to be important 233 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 9: to actually get the safety right right from the start. 234 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: Your hope that would be because you said there's about 235 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: eight more offices coming on the beat from this this shop, 236 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: so you'd be hoping to actually increase that even further 237 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: once the station. 238 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 9: Over time, and we've raised that with police because we're 239 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 9: basically getting a sub terranean operation going there, and it's 240 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 9: important it starts off on the right footing. But at 241 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 9: the end of the day, having that location, I think 242 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 9: is a great start. It will be, and the new 243 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 9: Coniston has seen himself. There will be an ongoing focus 244 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 9: in central sefty safety and they're talking about other areas 245 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 9: as well. But you know, from our perspective, we want 246 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 9: to be a vibrant, safe, twenty four to seven international 247 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 9: city and you need enough for this to create that safety. 248 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your views this morning. Always appreciated. 249 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: Vibeck with Heart of the City of the Chief Executive. 250 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 2: They're twenty three minutes after five. My question and I'll 251 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: answer my own question next, hopefully you can help me, 252 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: is where do all the crazies go once you kick 253 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: them out of the CBD the early. 254 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio, how It By 255 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: News Talks, AB News Talk ZAIDB. 256 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, a new police station in Central 257 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: Auckland is good news as we're recent stats showing crime 258 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: in the city is way down. But where are all 259 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 2: the wackos and the nut jobs going to go next? 260 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: That's my question. You know the ones I'm talking about. 261 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: They strut around holding their pants up with one hand, 262 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 2: a menacing look in their eye, shouting and ranting and 263 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: raving and lunging at people. They're pissing in the middle 264 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: of the street during the day, or fighting each other. 265 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: Once the city is secured, where did these people go next? 266 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 2: Parnell Ponsonby on a bus to Westfield New Market. If 267 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: the idea is to make a city feel safe for people, 268 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: then more cops will help do that. What they won't 269 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 2: do is make these intimidating people disappear altogether like some houdiniact. 270 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 2: One of the biggest problems we have with the lack 271 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: of community drug and alcohol rehab centers in this country, 272 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 2: affordable or free ones, and our correction system doesn't correct people. 273 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 2: Last year, it's spent we learnt this this week four 274 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars of our money on rehab programs. Guess 275 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: how much they reduced reoffending by guests less than two 276 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: percent on most programs. So yes, we should celebrate the 277 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: fact that we're getting more cops, drops gang patch bands, 278 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: and supposedly harshest sentences for violence, because the last lot 279 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: went a bit soft on that. But we shouldn't kid 280 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 2: ourselves that it will magically solve all of our problems, 281 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: all those of the whack jobs on. 282 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 3: Queen Street, cry and Bridge. 283 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: Twenty seven minutes after five. Great to have your company 284 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: this morning. Lots of feedback coming in, Ryan. I took 285 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: my sixteen year old daughter to Waikato Hospital in August 286 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three to see an NT doctor. Was told 287 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: she had a hole in her air drum which would 288 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: require surgery to fix. Due to staff shortages, she couldn't 289 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: be put on a waiting list. His words, we were 290 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: referred back to our GP, even though she struggles to 291 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: hear in school and constantly gets air infections. Regards Roger, Roger, 292 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: that is terrible and this is exactly the problem that 293 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: we had our interview after five twenty this morning. It's 294 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: exactly the problem. You get referred to as specialist. They're 295 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: too busy, the surgeon's too busy. 296 00:15:59,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 8: Whatever. 297 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: You get kicked back to your GP, and they're like, 298 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: well I've already referred you, so here we are at 299 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: square one again anyway. Twenty eight minutes after five. Lots 300 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: of feedback on n c A as well. We're going 301 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: to talk about why our employers in particular don't have 302 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: much of the way much in the way of trust 303 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: in the NCAA Level one that is coming your way 304 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 2: just before six your own news Talks. 305 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 11: The bough the dirty laundry. 306 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 3: You along with the. 307 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 11: Part of me still feels you wanting like you did, 308 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 11: but I can't take it back now, I. 309 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 7: Got too far. 310 00:16:39,120 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 11: You're just hot, okay, way. 311 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 8: So you. 312 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines. 313 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge you for twenty twenty four on early edition 314 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bits at a playing 315 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: store News Talk sib B. 316 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: Gooday, Good morning New Zealand, twenty four minutes away from 317 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: six News Talks said be Donald Tomorow out of Australia. 318 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: Coming up Insiber the next fifteen plus we'll speak to 319 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: a college principal about in CEA Level one. If you've 320 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 2: got a kid sitting in ZA level one. Guests get this, 321 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: Seventy percent of employers don't think it's a reliable measure 322 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 2: of knowledge and skills. Seventy percent, So what the hell's 323 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: it's there there for? We'll ask that question just before 324 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: six this morning. Some Starma Karma over in the UK. Overnight, 325 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: he was apparently a bit bamboos a lot on ITV 326 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: breakfast interview in which he was presented with a petition 327 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: topping two million signatures to hold another election that's just 328 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 2: had one, and he said, no, oh, look, it's just 329 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 2: because we had a bad budget and we put taxes up, 330 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: et cetera. Rachel Reeves, by the way, who they're calling 331 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 2: the new Thatcher, she's having a bit of trouble too 332 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: explaining her tax hikes and that the magnitude of them overnight. 333 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: In fact, she's on ITV, she's on Sky News right 334 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 2: now doing just that at some event. And what's happened 335 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: overnight is that businesses have scaled back, quite dramatically, scaled 336 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: back their hiring intentions because they've been hit with these 337 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 2: new taxes. Here in New Zealand, speaking of Labor Party 338 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: and taxes, the Labor Party conference is taking place in 339 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: christ Church this weekend and the members there are going 340 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 2: to vote on whether they will include a capital gains 341 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: tax and or a wealth tax in policy plans for 342 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: the party for the twenty twenty six election. It doesn't 343 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,640 Speaker 2: guarantee that they will make it into the manifesto. That's 344 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: not how it works, but it at least means that 345 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 2: it's in contention. And what they're also doing quite intentionally 346 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: is saying it's either a capital gains tax, a wealth 347 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 2: tax or nothing else, because those are vote losers, you know, 348 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: when you start talking about land taxes, inheritance taxes, etc. 349 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: So that's what's happening this weekend twenty two away from 350 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 2: six Bread Rich We're going to our reporters now in Dunedin. 351 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: We've got news with Blake, Benny Blake. A partnership between 352 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 2: Otago Museum and and the Pacific community continues there. 353 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 3: That's right. 354 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 12: The Museum's outreach program heads to the Cook Islands today 355 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 12: to support the Science Expo on Munaya Island. The event 356 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 12: was originally conceived by the team in twenty seventeen and 357 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 12: has brought interactive science experiences to the Pacific nation since. 358 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 12: Science Engagement Director Craig Grant says the once small project 359 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 12: has now evolved into a major event, with the Cook 360 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 12: Islands Prime Minister calling it for it to become bi annual. 361 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 12: This year's expo features space technologies and their role in 362 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 12: addressing issues like climate. 363 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: Change, all very good. How's your weather, Blake. 364 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 12: Lord, cloud clearing this morning, then occasional rain from the afternoon, 365 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 12: high of nineteen. 366 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Claire. The World Buskers Festival in 367 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: christ Church today is the launch Yeah. 368 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 13: It's the launch day for the twenty twenty five edition 369 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 13: of the World Buskers Festival. Ryan and a whole lot 370 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 13: of excitement down here for it. It is a really 371 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 13: great event that everyone seems to get behind down here. 372 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 13: There are seventeen acts that are going to be a 373 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 13: part of this ten days festival from late January. There'll 374 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 13: be more than two hundred planned performances. Timidoo born Sam Wills, 375 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 13: He's known as tape Face. Heill headline one of the 376 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 13: ticketed shows. This says return to the city after about 377 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 13: nine years Overseas Co director of the festival Drew James 378 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 13: says there's been a particular focus this year on getting 379 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 13: as many Canterbury acts involved as possible. He says christ 380 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 13: Church is the center of circus in New Zealand and 381 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 13: they've been looking at how to increase the profiles of 382 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 13: artists here. 383 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: What does tape Face do? 384 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 13: Tape his face, tapes his face and performs. Yeah, there 385 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 13: you go. 386 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: Well, what does he perform? 387 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 13: I guess you'd call it mime. He is actually quite good. 388 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 13: I know it's surprising, doesn't sound a little good. But 389 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 13: you can go to the ticketed event Ryan. 390 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: I'll get you some tickets, Okay, I'll come all the 391 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 2: way down for tapeface. 392 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 13: Clear, cloudy period's a bit of morning drizzle, easterly's fresh 393 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 13: later today high of twenty brilliant. 394 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: Thank you Max Toles and Wellington Max. Crucial council meeting 395 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: today on budget cuts. Yeah, in about four hours. 396 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 14: Councilors watched on by the narrow covered from Covid to 397 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 14: Crown Observer are going to go line by line through 398 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 14: the long term plan. All of these smaller community projects, redevelopments, prepares, 399 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 14: swimming pools, skate parks, even cycle lanes could lose their funding. 400 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 14: Hundreds of millions of dollars to find. With the airport's 401 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 14: shares sale canceled. That ongoing effort to reduce car parks 402 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 14: in Wellington make it more difficult to drive around the 403 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 14: city easier to bike is likely to be a focus. 404 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 14: There are hundreds of millions of dollars to wipe off 405 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 14: the books. Inevitably, cycle lanes have to be looked down 406 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 14: in terms of value for money. The Golden Mile is 407 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 14: still supposed to be going ahead Lambton to Willis and 408 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 14: Manors to Courtney Placed, turning that into one big route 409 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 14: for just buses and pedestrians. Some councilors want it scrapped 410 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 14: or at least scaled back, but with a mayoralty with 411 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 14: a little to show for it, this is really all 412 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 14: the mayor's got left to fight for, and I'm sure 413 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 14: she and others at council will do so today. 414 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 2: Do you know what would make that at meeting far 415 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: more efficient? If you take a leaf out of tapefaces 416 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: book and just take the councilor's house shut for a 417 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: couple of hours. Problem with them? Yeah, Hey, how's the 418 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: weather today? 419 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 14: Partly cloudy in northerlyies. It is a circus at council 420 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 14: the high twenty. 421 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: One thank you. Oh look, I know I'm running out 422 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 2: of time here, but is it true that that bridge 423 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: that goes from the city to the sea, you know, 424 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: the ugly hideous one that they that they want to 425 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: put a new bridge in so people can walk across 426 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: along with a pedestrian crossing underneath it. 427 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 14: Well, we covered the city to see bridge needing repairs 428 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 14: that are obviously extortionate and cost a few weeks ago. 429 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 14: And of course when something like that happens, it drags 430 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 14: the sort of heritage advocate type people out from the woodwork. 431 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 14: And some people want it to stay as it is 432 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 14: with repairs done again high cost. Others want a new 433 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 14: as you say, new bridge, I think just scrapping it, 434 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 14: just bowling it is probably the best option. 435 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 2: Just have no way across well you can get across 436 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: the road. 437 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 14: I mean you know it's by the little harbor area 438 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 14: where you can hire paddle boats down by the harbor. 439 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, all right, Max, thank you for that. Max, 440 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: and Wellington and never in Auckland never good morning, good morning. 441 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Degrees in AI in demand. 442 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 6: Yes, artificial intelligence. 443 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 15: So look we know that multiple universities and now they 444 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 15: now run you know, like Masters of Artificial Intelligence degrees 445 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 15: with many other courses and related papers. 446 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 6: This is at various levels also available. 447 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 15: Aut has almost seven hundred students taking an AI related 448 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 15: course this year now. That is up from three hundred 449 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 15: and fifty five and twenty seventeen. Vice Chancellor Damon Slesa 450 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 15: says they're also working to incorporate AI across the curriculum. 451 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 15: He said, it's going to be used in places as 452 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 15: diverse as health and business, and increasingly in places where 453 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 15: you may not expect to see it. 454 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 6: That sus isn't it er? We could be it will 455 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 6: be replaced. 456 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 2: But why but why would you study it? Doesn't AI 457 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: do itself? 458 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 7: Oh? 459 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 15: Yeah, I just I don't know very much about it 460 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 15: at all, mind you. I am a luddite. I was 461 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 15: just thinking I should you are not? 462 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 16: I am? 463 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 6: I need to just learn more about it. Do you 464 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 6: imagine that they could replace us with AI? 465 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: What's the point in learning about it when it's supposed 466 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: to know about itself? Do you know what I mean? 467 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: It's yeah anywhere anyway? How's the weather? 468 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 6: Cloudy? Chance of a shower? Brilliance by twenty one? 469 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: Thank you Neva. It is sixteen or look at that. 470 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: Away from Sex News. 471 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: Talks here big international correspondence with ends in eye insurance 472 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Peace of mind for New Zealand Business fourteen. 473 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: Away from Sex News Talk, said b Donna domatos Our, 474 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: Australia correspondent Onna. The government social media ban caused through 475 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 2: under sixteens coursing quite a stir today. 476 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 17: Yes, Interestingly, a certain inquiry has begun into the government's 477 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 17: proposed laws to ban children. This is under sixteens from 478 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 17: social media, so we've seen there's been about fifteen thousand 479 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 17: submissions to the inquiry and that is a lot we know. Recently, 480 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 17: Elon Musk himself tweeted about the Labor Government's bill and 481 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 17: as you can imagine, that would have reached millions and millions. 482 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 16: Of X users. 483 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 17: So this report is due to be handed down this 484 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 17: week now. Some say that the government is rushing these 485 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 17: laws and it wants to pass these laws before parliament 486 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 17: rises for the year. 487 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 16: It's only a few days left of. 488 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 17: Parliament for this week, but the inquiry has only been 489 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 17: open for twenty four hours, and so people saying what 490 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 17: are all these submissions? And in fact it's been noted 491 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 17: that a lot of these submissions seem to be variants 492 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 17: of a template report, if you know what I'm suggesting. 493 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 16: That was the ABC reporting that. 494 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 17: But others are saying that maybe Elon Musk is just 495 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 17: trying to send a message directly or indirectly, as some 496 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 17: might suggest to the Prime Minister Anthony Alberesi. So the 497 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 17: bill itself will be referred to the Senate inquiry this week, 498 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 17: submissions rap on Friday. 499 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 16: And does the bill have coalition support? Absolutely. 500 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 17: Both the Government and the Coalition are saying they are 501 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 17: trying to protect the mental health and the safety of kids. 502 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 16: By introducing this bill. 503 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 17: In fact, Anthony Alberanezi says, the world is watching as 504 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 17: Australia introduces this landmark ban. Others are saying that the 505 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 17: bill could actually do more harm than good because some 506 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 17: experts say that it actually exacerbates isolation for youngsters if 507 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 17: they're not engaging with social media. 508 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: That was the interesting part for me that the young 509 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: people themselves are saying, actually, we don't know how we 510 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: will communicate with each other without social media. It's like, 511 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: well going with that's. 512 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 16: How they've grown up. 513 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is true. Knock on their door. Thank 514 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: you very much for that, Donna. Great to hear from 515 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: uzialist donor Demo our Australia correspondent. It is twelve away from. 516 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: Six Ryan Bridge Hero. 517 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 2: The Education Review Office says INCA level one and listen 518 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: up if you've got kids studying it this year or 519 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: next year. Is not a fear or reliable assessment of students' 520 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: knowledge or skills. A new report by the government agency 521 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: also says less than three quarters of schools planned to 522 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: offer Level one from next year. It comes a day 523 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 2: after a new post COVID school achievement number that was 524 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: at a near decade low. Patrick Gale is the only 525 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: talk to a college principal with us this morning. Patrick 526 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 2: Morden A good morning, Jill Erron. 527 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 8: How are you? 528 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, really good? Thank you, thanks for coming on the show. 529 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 2: You stopped offering in cil every one at started this year. 530 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 2: Why did you do that? 531 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 8: We had concerns in a number of areas. Firstly, pretty 532 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 8: and most important was around the quad give support and 533 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 8: implementation that took place during the process. We found that 534 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 8: as a school, we were getting lots of information very 535 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 8: very late, and the more we found out, the more 536 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 8: concerns we had around whether it was going to be 537 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 8: a valuable tool to support the progress of our students. 538 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 8: So we decided to make the move away from Level 539 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 8: one this year, and to be honest, haven't really looked 540 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 8: back from that position. 541 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: What are the results been like, I mean, obviously it's 542 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 2: the early days, but how have you found it? 543 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean we've the main problem that exists in 544 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 8: using education the moment is the lack of a coherent 545 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 8: curriculum and without a map to guidance towards a destination, 546 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 8: A lot of schools have been foundering in the dark. 547 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 8: And therefore we've developed our own really strong, rigorous curriculum 548 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 8: which has given our students, our teachers a pathway to 549 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 8: enable quality assessments to occur at the end of it, 550 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 8: rather than assessment driving what we teach, which in affecting 551 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 8: what's been taking place the last a large number of 552 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 8: years in using an education with the poor curriculum and 553 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 8: overriding assessment that we've had in previous years. 554 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of assessments, this is students are twice as likely 555 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 2: to give an excellence on an internal assessment compared to 556 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: an exam. Why is that. 557 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 8: I think teachers within the existing framework are able to 558 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 8: target standards they may proceed to be easier they are 559 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 8: with internal assessment. They're also able to offer more time, 560 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 8: which might mean they don't enter students into all the externals, 561 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 8: and that causes further problems because it means that students 562 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 8: I'm actually taught the whole curriculum because you're targeting certain standards, 563 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 8: and that means you're not preparing them as well at 564 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 8: level two, three and tertiary education. If that's where students 565 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 8: are going. 566 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: On to the other problem I've heard of, Correct me 567 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 2: if I'm wrong, But it's up to the department, each 568 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: department in each school to decide how many credits their 569 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 2: courses are worth. 570 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 8: I think I would depend upon the school. As a school. 571 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 8: We have a policy about how many credits we would 572 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 8: expect students to have to sit at now in level 573 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 8: two and level three, and we would also ensure that 574 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 8: we are trying the more difficult standards or perceived difficult standards, 575 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 8: because we believe that prepares our students the best for 576 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 8: the following year. But again, different schools have different approaches 577 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,479 Speaker 8: towards that. I can't comment on what other schools are doing. 578 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Well, best of luck with your new 579 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 2: system you've introduced for level one per appreciate your time 580 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: this morning, Patrick Gale. That's set on a talk talk 581 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: college principle with us. Some other quite horrifying numbers. Really, 582 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 2: seventy percent of employers don't think it's a reliable measure 583 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: of knowledge and skills. This is NCAA level one. Ninety 584 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: percent of employers don't think it's a reliable measure of 585 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: hard work and attitude. 586 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 587 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City New Zealand's Furniture Beds and 588 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: a playing Store, Youth Talk said, be. 589 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: Six away from six News Talks said, be guess who's 590 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: gone on holiday to Hawaii? Kamala Harris. I suppose she 591 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: deserves a break after that campaign, doesn't she? Lots of 592 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: feedback this morning, Ryan, I work in a decile one school. 593 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: We have no funding next year. This is after our 594 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 2: NCAA story, no funding next year for the teacher ades 595 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: needed to make an average day work. Our classes have 596 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 2: more than forty percent of the kids with learning disabilities 597 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: and will be larger than it. How did everyone what's 598 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: wrong with everyone? When did this happen? When did everyone 599 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 2: have a learning disability? And where did they come from? 600 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: I honestly don't know the answer that question. Five away 601 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 2: from six to Mike's here, Good morning morning. 602 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 10: We had Tim O'Connor on yesterday who's the grammar headmaster? 603 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 10: And he was saying this is as regards NCA level one, 604 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 10: so he was saying primary school doesn't prepare kids for 605 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 10: high school, and of course it's well known that high 606 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 10: schools don't prepare kids for university, so none of it works, no, 607 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 10: And then while it's not working, then they're coming along 608 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 10: in CA Level one and changing it yet again. All 609 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 10: I've done since the introduction of n CEA has changed 610 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 10: it continually. And then you get the story this morning 611 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 10: that's floating about that, the change to the maths curriculum. 612 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 10: The books, there's no. 613 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: Books, but there are. The books are online. They don't 614 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 2: have the physical books, but you can look at them 615 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 2: online apparently, so there'll be no one without technically. 616 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 10: See, you just wonder, is the problem that they're trying 617 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 10: to fix it as in, like they know this problem, 618 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 10: so we're trying our best to fix it, or do 619 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 10: they just not had the slightest idea what's going on 620 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 10: so they just keep turning it over around around. 621 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: We go, well, I suppose it's probably both one and 622 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: the same. But but why are kids why do kids 623 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: have all these learning disabilities because we've decided they do, 624 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 2: so you don't think they're because I mean I wonder, 625 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: I mean, how do you suddenly go from like twelve 626 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: percent of people with ADHD to like forty percent. 627 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 10: That's that's applicable most things in life. Ryan, if you've 628 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 10: got a problem, it's now embraced. 629 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 2: If you stand. 630 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 10: If you wake up one morning and go tell you 631 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 10: what I've discovered. I've got a problem, that go absolutely 632 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 10: you do. They'll they'll wrap they have some wrap around 633 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 10: support for there's some pills for it, some pills and 634 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 10: some hell anyway, Prime Minister this morning, very good. 635 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: You know John Grisham, No, so. 636 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 10: He's doing some very interesting work at the moment with 637 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 10: people on death Throat. 638 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: So yes, I knew about that. Will there you go. 639 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 10: So he's on after eight. 640 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: Very cool. It's not Baddy, not a bad show. All right, 641 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: we'll look forward to it. Mike, it's next. Thanks for 642 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 2: joining me this morning of who want to see Tomorrow? 643 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 644 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 645 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.