1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,787 Speaker 1: from newstalk 'B. 3 00:00:12,787 --> 00:00:16,547 Speaker 2: Let's go across the Tasman, as he does every Saturday 4 00:00:16,587 --> 00:00:19,947 Speaker 2: afternoon around this time, we joined by our Australian correspondent 5 00:00:19,987 --> 00:00:22,867 Speaker 2: Adam Peacock. Adam, thanks very much for your time here 6 00:00:22,907 --> 00:00:24,427 Speaker 2: on news Talk ZIB this afternoon. 7 00:00:24,467 --> 00:00:25,427 Speaker 3: Elliot, how are you mate? 8 00:00:25,547 --> 00:00:28,867 Speaker 2: Oh good? The Australian cricket team an absolute tomb well 9 00:00:28,907 --> 00:00:31,747 Speaker 2: at least it seems from this side of the Tasman 10 00:00:31,787 --> 00:00:35,267 Speaker 2: after that loss to India would have been the ramifications 11 00:00:35,307 --> 00:00:36,507 Speaker 2: the repercussions out of that. 12 00:00:37,547 --> 00:00:39,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, not good as you can imagine. We don't take 13 00:00:40,027 --> 00:00:43,747 Speaker 3: it too well of the over here like that happened 14 00:00:43,787 --> 00:00:48,267 Speaker 3: to Australian figure team. A bit of introspection, but I 15 00:00:48,307 --> 00:00:52,507 Speaker 3: think on the whole most people are okay about giving 16 00:00:52,547 --> 00:00:55,787 Speaker 3: the same eleven a go. But there's a little confidence 17 00:00:55,827 --> 00:00:57,707 Speaker 3: about that. You can probably tell him a voice about 18 00:00:58,107 --> 00:01:01,467 Speaker 3: giving you a go. But yeah, Martus Labashane is the 19 00:01:01,467 --> 00:01:04,747 Speaker 3: one that looks completely out of nick. So he's good 20 00:01:04,827 --> 00:01:06,747 Speaker 3: enough to find something. Whether or not he's enough to 21 00:01:06,747 --> 00:01:08,987 Speaker 3: find something in a week, it remains to be seen. 22 00:01:09,067 --> 00:01:13,507 Speaker 3: Because he looks unfortunately a shadow of his former self there. 23 00:01:13,547 --> 00:01:16,907 Speaker 3: I think his first seventeen Test innings got into a 24 00:01:16,947 --> 00:01:20,107 Speaker 3: thousand runs. He's taken thirty eight Test innings to get 25 00:01:20,147 --> 00:01:22,707 Speaker 3: to his last thousand runs that he scored in Test cricket. 26 00:01:22,787 --> 00:01:24,667 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's taking the foot off the gas. But 27 00:01:24,707 --> 00:01:27,787 Speaker 3: extel Steve Smith scratching around as he's still got a 28 00:01:28,507 --> 00:01:30,787 Speaker 3: he too old. They're the questions being asked over here. 29 00:01:30,907 --> 00:01:33,427 Speaker 2: I mean the quality players, they've got the ability to 30 00:01:33,467 --> 00:01:35,787 Speaker 2: bounce back and be very Australian for them to do so, 31 00:01:35,867 --> 00:01:38,187 Speaker 2: I'm depreciate and come out on Friday and the second 32 00:01:38,227 --> 00:01:40,867 Speaker 2: teast and do it. But are these players may be 33 00:01:41,107 --> 00:01:43,627 Speaker 2: verging on the fact that they've been around for too long, 34 00:01:43,667 --> 00:01:46,707 Speaker 2: maybe little too old, And are the younger players ready 35 00:01:46,747 --> 00:01:47,707 Speaker 2: to replace them? 36 00:01:48,187 --> 00:01:53,667 Speaker 3: Potentially because but unfortunately at the moment we don't really 37 00:01:53,707 --> 00:01:56,747 Speaker 3: have all these three are the next three they're definitely 38 00:01:56,787 --> 00:01:58,467 Speaker 3: in as soon as these guys have done it. It's 39 00:01:58,507 --> 00:02:00,507 Speaker 3: like a big question mark of about six or seven 40 00:02:00,547 --> 00:02:02,387 Speaker 3: a pool of six or seven players, are they good 41 00:02:02,507 --> 00:02:05,067 Speaker 3: enough to step up if one of them goes so? 42 00:02:05,667 --> 00:02:08,067 Speaker 3: In a bit of a state the fox at the moment, 43 00:02:08,067 --> 00:02:09,947 Speaker 3: the bowling unit will be okay. Look, they go to 44 00:02:09,947 --> 00:02:12,067 Speaker 3: Adelaide next, they play a day night test, so the 45 00:02:12,107 --> 00:02:16,507 Speaker 3: pink ball can offer some different kind of varieties. So unfortunately, 46 00:02:16,667 --> 00:02:19,347 Speaker 3: though I do believe that Jasper Wilmert is going to 47 00:02:19,347 --> 00:02:22,147 Speaker 3: play that Test match. Still, it's not like he's not 48 00:02:22,307 --> 00:02:24,787 Speaker 3: going to Adelaide so he can do anything with the ball. 49 00:02:24,827 --> 00:02:27,747 Speaker 3: At the moment. He is one of a kind, yea guy. 50 00:02:27,907 --> 00:02:29,387 Speaker 2: You've got to find something on him to just get 51 00:02:29,427 --> 00:02:31,747 Speaker 2: him out of the country, you know, to port him. 52 00:02:31,747 --> 00:02:32,867 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but you've got to 53 00:02:32,867 --> 00:02:36,067 Speaker 2: find something to get him out of that lineup, offer. 54 00:02:35,867 --> 00:02:38,587 Speaker 3: Him like a lavish party back in India that he 55 00:02:38,627 --> 00:02:42,667 Speaker 3: can attend for the next I don't know month, but no, 56 00:02:43,147 --> 00:02:45,547 Speaker 3: he'll be there and he'll be an absolute threaten and 57 00:02:46,147 --> 00:02:48,427 Speaker 3: it's a problem, a big problem to solve for Australia. 58 00:02:48,507 --> 00:02:50,667 Speaker 2: Look, we feel deeply for you across the side of 59 00:02:50,667 --> 00:02:52,987 Speaker 2: the test man. As always when when the Australian cringing 60 00:02:53,067 --> 00:02:55,147 Speaker 2: team's not going well, we feel it on the side 61 00:02:55,147 --> 00:02:56,667 Speaker 2: of the test madam. So I hope you know that 62 00:02:56,667 --> 00:02:57,147 Speaker 2: we're with you. 63 00:02:58,427 --> 00:03:00,467 Speaker 3: I totally get it. Yeah, I totally realize that. 64 00:03:00,547 --> 00:03:05,107 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Look, the Australian and Ireland test matched around 65 00:03:05,107 --> 00:03:09,467 Speaker 2: out the Test rugby season. Wallaby's completing things early hours 66 00:03:09,507 --> 00:03:12,947 Speaker 2: tomorrow afternoon, sorry tomorrow morning, New Zealand time your time 67 00:03:12,987 --> 00:03:14,907 Speaker 2: as well, Joe Schmidt. But of a homecoming for. 68 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:18,667 Speaker 3: Him, yeah, reading all the articles about him this week, 69 00:03:18,707 --> 00:03:22,707 Speaker 3: it's like he's a king over there, which is nice 70 00:03:22,707 --> 00:03:25,587 Speaker 3: to see. It's not like looked on as bitterness about 71 00:03:25,587 --> 00:03:28,827 Speaker 3: how it might have ended or how they parted. It's 72 00:03:28,867 --> 00:03:31,387 Speaker 3: more about what he did and yeah, that's you don't 73 00:03:31,387 --> 00:03:33,787 Speaker 3: always see that in sport. So he's obviously had a 74 00:03:33,947 --> 00:03:37,827 Speaker 3: huge effect on Irish rugby at every level to help 75 00:03:37,867 --> 00:03:40,227 Speaker 3: get them where they are, which is always now one 76 00:03:40,227 --> 00:03:43,907 Speaker 3: of the hardest, hardest places to go in rugby and 77 00:03:43,987 --> 00:03:47,267 Speaker 3: hardest opponents wherever they play. So maybe should have got 78 00:03:47,307 --> 00:03:48,147 Speaker 3: something more out of the. 79 00:03:48,147 --> 00:03:53,587 Speaker 4: World Cup recently, but yeah, up against it here using 80 00:03:53,867 --> 00:03:57,387 Speaker 4: more players again, depth and issue on this tour of 81 00:03:57,387 --> 00:04:00,267 Speaker 4: Bang bang bang, these Test matches could quite get. 82 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:03,187 Speaker 3: Past Scotland this week. Probably not expected to get past Island, 83 00:04:03,187 --> 00:04:06,107 Speaker 3: but it'd be a nice surprise if the Wallaby's abdle 84 00:04:06,107 --> 00:04:08,427 Speaker 3: to do make it three or four on this tour. 85 00:04:08,587 --> 00:04:10,387 Speaker 2: Have people sort of set up and taken notice and 86 00:04:10,427 --> 00:04:13,027 Speaker 2: obviously you lost last week in Edinburgh, but have people 87 00:04:13,107 --> 00:04:15,787 Speaker 2: gone okay, well the Wallabyes actually might be on upwards 88 00:04:15,827 --> 00:04:16,507 Speaker 2: trajictory here. 89 00:04:17,347 --> 00:04:20,387 Speaker 3: Yeah, the England game was that one that kind of 90 00:04:20,467 --> 00:04:22,987 Speaker 3: shocked everyone that we got not only so close but 91 00:04:23,067 --> 00:04:26,787 Speaker 3: actually beat them on the bell. So Wales wasn't as expected, 92 00:04:27,347 --> 00:04:30,627 Speaker 3: wasn't as a surprise, I should say, because yeah that 93 00:04:30,747 --> 00:04:34,027 Speaker 3: Wales will strike not gone through its finest moment. But yeah, 94 00:04:34,027 --> 00:04:36,387 Speaker 3: if you can get Ireland and get three of these four, 95 00:04:36,507 --> 00:04:38,787 Speaker 3: Tim Horn said a couple of weeks ago to me 96 00:04:38,827 --> 00:04:41,667 Speaker 3: in another interview. He goes, look, if we take a 97 00:04:41,747 --> 00:04:44,147 Speaker 3: step back and okay, if it doesn't go our way 98 00:04:44,147 --> 00:04:46,827 Speaker 3: against Scotland, we beat Ireland three or four. That's beyond 99 00:04:46,867 --> 00:04:50,107 Speaker 3: expectations before this tour and at a good building block 100 00:04:50,147 --> 00:04:52,667 Speaker 3: for the British and Irish Lions. Joe Shmidt I think 101 00:04:52,707 --> 00:04:56,747 Speaker 3: he debuts his nineteenth player of the year in this 102 00:04:57,227 --> 00:05:00,347 Speaker 3: Test match. So he's gone to the bottom of the 103 00:05:00,387 --> 00:05:02,787 Speaker 3: depth pool to try and find out who's good enough 104 00:05:02,867 --> 00:05:05,307 Speaker 3: for the years to come, which is good to see. 105 00:05:05,307 --> 00:05:07,067 Speaker 3: But he's done it in a different way to Eddie Jones. 106 00:05:07,347 --> 00:05:10,667 Speaker 3: He's not just kind of just done everything at once. 107 00:05:10,747 --> 00:05:13,227 Speaker 3: He's done it gradually, he's poked around, he's seen the 108 00:05:13,267 --> 00:05:16,227 Speaker 3: players that he's identified and given him a go. So yeah, 109 00:05:16,667 --> 00:05:19,027 Speaker 3: I think it's encouraging as much as anything. 110 00:05:19,187 --> 00:05:22,147 Speaker 2: And Joey so he cleared to play this week, which 111 00:05:22,147 --> 00:05:24,787 Speaker 2: didn't look likely last week. After he wins off. He 112 00:05:25,067 --> 00:05:27,387 Speaker 2: seems like a player that you know, if you're a 113 00:05:27,587 --> 00:05:30,307 Speaker 2: neutral fan, you might get the old TV sits flicking 114 00:05:30,387 --> 00:05:32,747 Speaker 2: on to see how he's going. If you're utul or 115 00:05:32,787 --> 00:05:35,547 Speaker 2: as a casual rugby fan, he seems like the interest 116 00:05:35,627 --> 00:05:37,147 Speaker 2: levels have sort of peaked and gone, Actually, I want 117 00:05:37,147 --> 00:05:38,427 Speaker 2: to see how this kid's going over there. 118 00:05:39,147 --> 00:05:41,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, and very much so, because he's huge in rugby 119 00:05:41,787 --> 00:05:44,027 Speaker 3: league and big name in rugby league. So rugby league 120 00:05:44,027 --> 00:05:46,867 Speaker 3: fans by nature are wondering how he's going or some 121 00:05:47,707 --> 00:05:50,627 Speaker 3: which is better than none. And look that the guy 122 00:05:51,587 --> 00:05:53,467 Speaker 3: has been thrown straight in there. He was playing rugby 123 00:05:53,547 --> 00:05:56,187 Speaker 3: league a couple of months ago. So now that he's 124 00:05:56,227 --> 00:05:58,427 Speaker 3: going to come back, have a little rest, then do 125 00:05:58,507 --> 00:06:01,547 Speaker 3: a proper little preseason. He mon't need much topping up 126 00:06:01,627 --> 00:06:04,187 Speaker 3: before going again for the Super Rugby season. He gets 127 00:06:04,267 --> 00:06:08,067 Speaker 3: his block of understanding their game find a detail throughout that, 128 00:06:08,387 --> 00:06:11,187 Speaker 3: so yeah, really exciting to see what he can be. 129 00:06:11,747 --> 00:06:12,947 Speaker 3: By the middle of next year. 130 00:06:12,907 --> 00:06:14,627 Speaker 2: Adam Peacock with us. Just finally, Adam, I gets some 131 00:06:14,707 --> 00:06:17,107 Speaker 2: terms of that British and Irish Lions series next year. 132 00:06:17,307 --> 00:06:20,467 Speaker 2: The series seems to have been a bit of a 133 00:06:20,507 --> 00:06:23,307 Speaker 2: precursor to then, and I know the ticket sales the 134 00:06:23,387 --> 00:06:25,907 Speaker 2: British lays in Irish come down and they sell out 135 00:06:25,907 --> 00:06:28,027 Speaker 2: those places, but there are sins that that there is 136 00:06:28,107 --> 00:06:30,307 Speaker 2: something building towards that Lion series next year. 137 00:06:31,107 --> 00:06:34,547 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's viewed over here oddly enough because rugby is 138 00:06:34,587 --> 00:06:39,147 Speaker 3: Australia not exactly financially flying, but almost the savior of 139 00:06:39,227 --> 00:06:43,107 Speaker 3: the code. I know that sounds ridiculously dramatic, but it's 140 00:06:43,187 --> 00:06:46,507 Speaker 3: going to help no end both commercially and all those 141 00:06:46,547 --> 00:06:50,587 Speaker 3: things off the park reputationally. But also it'll be a 142 00:06:50,627 --> 00:06:52,747 Speaker 3: great series, will be a great three match series, and 143 00:06:52,867 --> 00:06:54,787 Speaker 3: there'll be a little tour around it as well, so 144 00:06:55,147 --> 00:06:57,627 Speaker 3: it'll help rugby in many ways, and it doesn't need 145 00:06:57,667 --> 00:07:00,107 Speaker 3: it because it's kind of been last ten years especially 146 00:07:00,347 --> 00:07:03,787 Speaker 3: kind of been gazumped by rugby league. There's this ridiculous 147 00:07:03,907 --> 00:07:07,307 Speaker 3: kind of like feeling and I think it's more from 148 00:07:07,387 --> 00:07:10,827 Speaker 3: regularly towards rugby union about we're better than you, E're 149 00:07:10,827 --> 00:07:14,627 Speaker 3: a crap sport. I mean they both have their place absolutely, 150 00:07:14,827 --> 00:07:17,707 Speaker 3: so yeah, this will show the best of rugby this 151 00:07:17,827 --> 00:07:20,627 Speaker 3: tour coming and it will be very very much needed 152 00:07:20,707 --> 00:07:21,987 Speaker 3: for rugby Australia. 153 00:07:22,187 --> 00:07:24,027 Speaker 2: Indeed, it will be Adam Peacock, thank you very much 154 00:07:24,067 --> 00:07:25,747 Speaker 2: of your time as always on a Saturday afternoon, look 155 00:07:25,747 --> 00:07:26,787 Speaker 2: forward to catching up again soon. 156 00:07:27,547 --> 00:07:28,787 Speaker 3: Sounds good, thanks Mane having one. 157 00:07:29,107 --> 00:07:31,147 Speaker 2: Adam Peacock joining us, says he always does on a 158 00:07:31,187 --> 00:07:35,147 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon to talk about the world of Australian sport. 159 00:07:35,827 --> 00:07:38,987 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 160 00:07:39,107 --> 00:07:42,387 Speaker 1: to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow 161 00:07:42,467 --> 00:07:44,027 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio