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Speaker 1: New stats Downtown Auckland, seventy one percent of Queen Street

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Speaker 1: business is not happy with cleanliness, maintenance and homelessness. Seventy

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Speaker 1: seven percent. Our local council and government ignore their needs.

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Speaker 1: There are growing fears that this antisocial behavior could undermine

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Speaker 1: the turnaround the things like the CRL and the Convention

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Speaker 1: Center will bring. Apparently Vibeca is the chief executive of

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Speaker 1: Heart of the City and it's back with us. Third

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Speaker 1: morning morning. How long we've been talking about downtown Aukland.

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Speaker 1: How many years?

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Speaker 2: Oh, A long time, A long time, and we're coming

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Speaker 2: up to a big year. That's why we're doing this.

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Speaker 2: We cannot allow this to continue.

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Speaker 1: Is this a council thing or is this a government thing?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a bit of both. I think to

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Speaker 2: be fear to government, they have responded to our long

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Speaker 2: standing request for a cross agency approach and we have

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Speaker 2: got ministers involved, and we really hope for what we

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Speaker 2: need is urgency on that. I think council has to

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Speaker 2: recognize this as a real issue. I think, to be fair,

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Speaker 2: they have put some ordans and things on, but I

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Speaker 2: think they just really need to understand this is not

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Speaker 2: this sort of thing you need in a trading environment

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Speaker 2: we're going to.

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Speaker 1: I'm not downtown as much as you are, but haven't

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Speaker 1: gone downtown. I mean, the problem is evident, it's obvious,

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Speaker 1: it's overwhelming. Everyone can see it. Do you think the

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Speaker 1: council get it, or they get it but don't want

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Speaker 1: to do something about it, or they just don't get it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have to say I would hope they get

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Speaker 2: it and want to do something about it, but I

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Speaker 2: actually think they don't get it, to be honest, I

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Speaker 2: think they really It's an attitude thing, and I think

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Speaker 2: they need to change their attitude for a start to

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Speaker 2: business and property owners in that area. They have to

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Speaker 2: listen to their needs and that comes into some of

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Speaker 2: the work they've done on the street scapes and the

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Speaker 2: access and the fines and all that sort of stuff,

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Speaker 2: and they have to understand that in the end, for

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Speaker 2: this to be a great place for tourists, for people

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Speaker 2: to want to get onto that train, and for a

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Speaker 2: great experience for the people coming into the convention center,

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Speaker 2: this has to be more like what you see down

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Speaker 2: in britam Art Commercial Bay the viaduct. They have to

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Speaker 2: take a leaf out of that and significantly lift the standards.

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Speaker 1: Because Mark Mitchell, from the central government point of view,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure would argue, Look, we've got an increased police presence,

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Speaker 1: we've got the new station coming all of that. They're

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Speaker 1: doing their bit, aren't they.

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Speaker 2: They are, and I think you know we've got the

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Speaker 2: downtown police station, so look, they are doing their bit.

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Speaker 2: We have said to them, and I've spoken to the

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Speaker 2: Police Commissioner. I've spoken to the Minister. We do need

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Speaker 2: more police before CRL because we're going underground and they

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Speaker 2: recognize that. So now I think police has done their bit.

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Speaker 2: I think Justice is doing their bit. We've got we

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Speaker 2: had a recent announcement from Minister Bishop about the housing.

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Speaker 2: We need more on that because that seems to be deteriorating.

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Speaker 2: But there's just a general deterioration and standards and Council

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Speaker 2: has to enforce its by law.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more that, Go well, I wish you the

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Speaker 1: best with a VIVI bec chief Executive at the heart

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Speaker 1: of the sitting and of course at this point, go well.

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Speaker 1: The good news is we've got a local body election

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Speaker 1: on at the moment, so if you're exercised about this,

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Speaker 1: you could go and vote. But then why would I

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Speaker 1: Say that.

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