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Speaker 1: In the past few hours. Staying with Trump for just

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Speaker 1: a second, He's fired off a post on True Social

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Speaker 1: saying agricultural import terrorists will take effect from April to

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Speaker 1: second in the United States. This could be a big

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Speaker 1: problem for US here done under. The US is our

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Speaker 1: second largest export market for goods, worth nine billion bucks

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Speaker 1: a year. Red meat exports jump sixty four percent in January,

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Speaker 1: Darry alone worth more than a billion bucks. Nathan Guy

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Speaker 1: is the chairman of the Meat Industry Association. Former Minister.

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Speaker 2: Hello, gooda Ryan, how are you good? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: These terriffs, How worried are you what he's talking about?

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Speaker 2: Oh, we're worried. But we just don't know at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And it's a little bit hard, you know, speculation. Who

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Speaker 2: might they affect, when might they come in? How much

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Speaker 2: might they be? I see today he's marching on with China,

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Speaker 2: Mexico and Canada, and then today's tweet, and I see

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Speaker 2: that quite a few people have responded in a negative

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Speaker 2: way to the tweet in the US. So we'll just

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Speaker 2: wait and.

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Speaker 1: See what percentage would be bad or catastrophic, I mean,

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Speaker 1: tim percent. I imagine we could probably deal with. But

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Speaker 1: if he goes with twenty five. That's major, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Ah, that's a big number. Yeah, that would be a

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Speaker 2: big concern. But I was just thinking about it and

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Speaker 2: reflecting before we came on here. Ryan. I liken the

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Speaker 2: world meat markets to a bit like a giant waterbed.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's ripples and waves. There's a push there,

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Speaker 2: there's a wave over there. And New Zealand there's a

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Speaker 2: fantastic history of writing ways, whether they're geopolitical, trade barriers,

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Speaker 2: whatever they might be. We export to about one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty countries around the world, and we're very agile

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Speaker 2: and nimble, and I guess i'd like to think that

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Speaker 2: our relationship is very strong with the US, and we've

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Speaker 2: you know, all of those relationships are going to be

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Speaker 2: really important in the next week.

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Speaker 1: While I mean, the problem is there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: countries who thought they had close relationships with the US,

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Speaker 1: and in the last couple of weeks those have been

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Speaker 1: turned on their head.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, have you heard right? Right?

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Speaker 1: Have you had any word from or any contact from

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Speaker 1: the New Zealand government about this so far? I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're obviously going to be contacting their people in Washington

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what the hell's going on? But

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Speaker 1: have you heard anything?

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't. The Prime Minister and senior ministers were

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Speaker 2: at our National Lamb Day on the lawn at Parliament

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. That was a topic of conversation.

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Speaker 2: They're certainly working their connections pretty hard. So we're happened

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Speaker 2: to hear that our meat companies have got customers in market.

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Speaker 2: They're working their connections hard. So everyone's talking and I

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Speaker 2: guess we're just bracing and waiting and hoping it's not

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Speaker 2: a big impact.

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Speaker 1: Fingers across for you. Nathan Guard, chairman of the Meat

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