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Speaker 2: Good morning jeez, here is not the only one with

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Speaker 1: Very good to very good. If you want to work

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Speaker 1: That's the new Trump rule. You've got to be nice

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Speaker 3: I was just going to say, I'm you glad you're

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a very good decision to make

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Speaker 1: as I watched those dreadful, poor souls in the quad

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Speaker 3: Therey sixteen all over again, wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: Well, the only difference. The only difference was in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: Ye It's funny because I reckon, there's a good lesson.

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Speaker 3: This whole thing is a good lesson for mainstream media,

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Speaker 3: from independent citizen journalism, and they were interestedly saying, especially

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Speaker 3: But it's interesting message because traditional legacy media is so

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Speaker 3: we learned the lesson here our media. Yeah they won't, sadly,

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Speaker 3: But I mean it's a good lesson, isn't it if.

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Speaker 1: You want to learn it. All lessons are good if

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Speaker 1: you want to learn them, and that's the key to lessons.

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Speaker 1: You've got to want to learn them. And that's the difficulty.

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Speaker 1: I was think about that. Funnily enough, just a moment,

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Speaker 3: People you market yesterday, Yeah, and there was you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the mode make it. Unfortunately, are so

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Speaker 1: there's a protest, we must cover it. The fact there's

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Speaker 1: That's unfortunately a resource thing these days, and once they

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Speaker 2: Can we talk about the one person who lost the

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Speaker 3: They've got to stop. They've got to realize, Hollywood elite,

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Speaker 2: Well, celebrities actually emerged once they started chopping their heads

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Speaker 2: We don't expect, as you say, we don't expect them.

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Speaker 1: By Coastal elites is what somebody called them, and I thought,

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Speaker 2: How was that? I?

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Speaker 1: It seems looking at me, going, how cool are you?

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Speaker 1: a good warning, Katie. Thank you for that. That's good. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: You can still cut your hair though, that's the making

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Speaker 1: And he goes, I've reached an age where I just

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Speaker 2: But are you Aren't you a big divestor anyway?

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Speaker 1: Like we don't throw out, but I then bring back

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Speaker 1: So my net, my net is zero, But I really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you hoarde certain things, so you're a sort

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Speaker 3: of minimalist. But when it comes to things like or

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Speaker 3: fragrance or cashms Marino, you seem to have a mountain.

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Speaker 1: Of it without wanting to sound like a complete You

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Speaker 1: know what, My Fragrance collection is a good example of that, isn't.

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Speaker 2: It my Fragrance collection. You already sound like that person,

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Speaker 2: you're already sound.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not, you know, well, because because I can't.

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Speaker 2: Shouldn't you shouldn't you be shouldn't you be clearing away

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Speaker 2: the foilballs? Shouldn't you be refining yourself?

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Speaker 1: So sure, And that's that's the Joanie olibays Greg the

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Speaker 1: haircut a lesson in life. It's it's learn as you

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Speaker 2: That you can I offer another piece of advice for

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Speaker 2: self improvement. Yes, so you were you were commenting on

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Speaker 2: a text yesterday that said, oh, we're going to end

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Speaker 2: up in Washington during the inauguration. You're like, oh, just

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Speaker 2: tell them you planned it. You realize there are kids listening.

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Speaker 2: You realize that this is how parents operate, and you've

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Speaker 2: let the kid out of the bag.

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Speaker 1: You've let them all down exactly. Sorry, can you not

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Speaker 1: do that? My apologies?

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Speaker 2: Has just walked into the room.

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Speaker 1: Do not give away the parental secrets. Let's not go

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Speaker 1: there with Santa Claus then, shall we? Now? Nice to

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Speaker 1: see you guys. You have a good weekend. Kate talks

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Speaker 1: with Tim Wilson for another week.

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