1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: If One is back this weekend in Austin, taken on 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: a new meaning for us, of course, with the arrival 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: of Liam Lawson in the full time seat for v 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: cab Will Buxton as part of the IF One circuit. 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Of course, you will have seen him on Drive to Survive. 6 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,239 Speaker 1: He's got a new book out called Grand Prix in 7 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Illustrated History of Formula One, which has no shortage of 8 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: New Zealand content. Of course, Will Buxton with us morning. 9 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 2: And good morning to you too now. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 3: Having watched you. 11 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't want to obsess about Liam Lawson, 12 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: but obviously from this particular side of the world we 13 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: are at the moment. What's yours as an international? What's 14 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: your impression? What's the pedix impression of Liam and his possibilities? 15 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: I love him, I really love him. I have been 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: such a fan of him for such a long time, 17 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: all the way through Junior Formula DTM. What he did 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: when he made those couple of races in Formula one 19 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: last season. He has impressed me in everything he's ever driven, 20 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: everything I've ever seen of him. I thought it was 21 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: absolutely criminal he was left on the sidelines this year. 22 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: I just couldn't imagine a twenty twenty four Formula One 23 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: season without him in it, and yet we more importantly, 24 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: he has been forced to endure that. But I'm so 25 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: glad for him and for Russ as fans of the 26 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: sport that we get to see him in these final 27 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: six races because I truly think he's and I'm not 28 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: just saying this because I'm broadcasting with you guys in 29 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: New Zealand. I truly think he's He's an exceptional talent. 30 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: Good because the pressure's on him to so he's got 31 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: the six races past the three sprints, of course, so 32 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: the pressure is on him for next year. When you 33 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 1: look at what's happened this season so far, with people 34 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: like color Pinto into nearly next year, all of those 35 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: this that we seem to be into a there's a 36 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: whole new generation coming phase. 37 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. I love it when we get 38 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: those those moments, those movements of a generational shift. I mean, 39 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: you see what the likes of I mean, we have 40 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: it already with Max Verstappen and Pas three and that 41 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: younger generation like Charles and Carlos, but this is like 42 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 2: another new generation entirely, and even younger breed, you know, five, six, 43 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: seven years younger than than those guys. It's it's always 44 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 2: exciting to see the new guys coming through and hope 45 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: that Liam can put his stamp on these six races 46 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 2: and assure himself a seat, maybe not even just with 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: with v Car I'll be whatever you want to call them. 48 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: But you know that seat was an audition for Daniel 49 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: to find his way back to the top team. So 50 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: the fact that Liam is replacing Daniel means that this 51 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: isn't just an audition for the Beatam, this is an 52 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: audition for the A team, and I really hope he shines. 53 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: What's your sense and we're in a guess work here already, 54 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: what's your sense of Pariz for the rest of the season. 55 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Does he stay for the season. If he does, he 56 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: stay beyond the season, and if he then leaves in 57 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: some way, shape or form, that's Liam's opportunity in the 58 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: big seat. 59 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: I think a lot of this has to do with 60 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: how Liam performed. You know, if Liam performs admirably but 61 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: not exceptionally, but you know to a degree that makes 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: him think, hey, there's you know, there's something here, then 63 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: he'll probably get the VCARB seat. For next year. If 64 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: he outdes all expectations, then there's every chance they slide 65 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: him in at Red Bull next year and they promote 66 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Isaac hadjaff Formula two into that VCRB seep the next year. 67 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 2: So you know, this really is an audition that could 68 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: have tremendous ramifications, you know, not just for his future, 69 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 2: but for a number of seats in the paddock. 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: Let's talk about you for a moment. 71 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Well, most people in this country will have seen you 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: for the first time in Drive to Survive. When Drive 73 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: to Survive came along, what hand on how what did 74 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: you think of it? Did you think this is the 75 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: program that is going to transform Formula one. 76 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 2: I had no idea what to expect. I don't think 77 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 2: any of us did in that first season, because nobody 78 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 2: had ever done anything like that in Formula one or 79 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: attempted to do something so wide reaching, and so we 80 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: all just just went along. I wasn't even expecting to 81 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: be in it. I was expecting to be the interviewer, 82 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: not the interviewee, and so when they brought me in 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: and started firing questions at me, I really didn't know 84 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: where it was going to go. I didn't how much. 85 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: I didn't know how much of what I said was 86 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: going to be used. And it was only really when 87 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: it hit the screens for everybody that first season that 88 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: I saw it and I understood what it was and 89 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 2: suddenly understood what it could be. And I think brutally 90 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: so did the teams, because if you look back to 91 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 2: that first season, Ferrari and Mercedes wanted nothing to do 92 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: with it, and having seen that first season, they suddenly 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: turned around and said, yes, we will make our teams, 94 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: and we will make our drivers, we will make everybody open 95 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: to you because they saw what this could be and 96 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: what it was going to do. And what it's done 97 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: is completely change the paradigm the understanding that we have 98 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: of what a sports documentary can be. Because after that 99 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 2: first season, people stopped saying we need to make a 100 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: sports documentary. The buzzword became we need a drive to survive, 101 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 2: and that's that's what it's been throughout sport ever since then. 102 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: It's completely changed the game. 103 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: You signed to confidentiality as to what they're filming right 104 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: now that will turn up in February March of next year. 105 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: You don't know how many of us and about it 106 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: we were no, you know, we have it on our 107 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: paths that you know we're there. We can be filmed 108 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 2: by anybody, you know. But I will say that we 109 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: have started looking to the sky more when we talk 110 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: to people about things and secret things in the paddock, 111 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 2: just to see if there's a boom mic hanging over 112 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: your head. 113 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 3: Fantastic. 114 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: But also about you, because I didn't know about you. 115 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: I watched you, but I didn't know about you, and 116 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: so I think he must come from racing, given your 117 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: passion and knowledge. 118 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: But you don't. 119 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: You were correct me if I'm wrong, But you were 120 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: singing in a choir or studying architectural or law or 121 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: something like that. Next thing you know, you're if one. 122 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was very young, I was a chorister, 123 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: very young in Sweden, angelic. I always wanted to be 124 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 2: a journalist. A formula one journalist was all I wanted 125 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: to be. From the age of thirteen, I knew exactly 126 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: what I wanted to do with my life. I studied 127 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: politics at university because back in those days, media studies 128 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: degrees weren't really seen as very serious. I'm looking back 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: twenty five to thirty years ago, so in politics to 130 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 2: teach me to research to form a cohesive argument, you know, 131 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: really really sort of discover my voice. And I wrote 132 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: my thesis on the politics of Formula one, which I 133 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: sent to the guys at FLA magazine and they liked it, 134 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: and they said, d you want a week's work experience. I 135 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: went and I never left until the magazine closed down. 136 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: And that was that was where I got my break. 137 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: That was where I got my start back in two 138 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: thousand and two. And I've done any number of jobs 139 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 2: in the sport to try and keep my head above water, 140 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 2: keep my foot in that door, and luckily fell into 141 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: television completely by mistake. And it's been a wonderful twenty yeah, 142 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: twenty nearly twenty five years in Formula One. I've loved 143 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 2: every second of it. 144 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: Non surprise, and now listen, will it does remind us 145 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: of this book, I suppose for those who came to 146 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: Formula one, you know, lateish as a result of drive 147 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: to survive all the names in there, I mean, how 148 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: many drivers, there have been, how many stories, how many phases, 149 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: how many eras. It really is historically speaking of fantastic story, 150 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: isn't it it is? 151 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 2: And it's you know, it's a seventy five year story. 152 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: It's seventy fifth anniversary of the beginning of the sport 153 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 2: next year, and you know, so many folks have come 154 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: to Formula one through drive. That survived as a statistic 155 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: that the bottom Formula one sort of announced last year 156 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 2: through the research they've done, which is that one in 157 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: three viewers blow for one I have been watching for 158 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: less than five years. That's half a billion people, about 159 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: one in three. And so if you've been watching for 160 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: less than five years, you never saw Michael Schumacher rips, 161 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: let alone the likes of an air and Sena or 162 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: an Alan Prost or even further back, your Jim Clark's 163 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 2: or your Jackie Stewarts or Fangio. And yet we refer 164 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 2: to these drivers all the time in order to give 165 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: context to what the greats of today are achieving and 166 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: the teams of today are achieving. And I wanted to 167 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: open it up and describe and explain the sport to 168 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 2: new fans in a way that wasn't too scary, because 169 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: f one can get like that, it can get very 170 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 2: intense and very detailed driven, and I wanted to just 171 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: do something that was quite a general introduction that said Look, 172 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: you might be a new fan, you might have only 173 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: been watching a couple of years, but I recognize that 174 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 2: we all have a first race, we all have a 175 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: day where we know nothing about the sport. So come 176 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 2: with me. Let me take you on a journey back 177 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: to the start and introduce you to these great teams, 178 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: these great drivers, everything that the sport has been and 179 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: has gone through to get to where we are today. 180 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: But this incredible, vibrant championship season that we're having. 181 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: For the credibility of the book, and being from New Zealand, 182 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: the first place and name I went to was, of 183 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: course Bruce McLaren. 184 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you would have gone for Denny. 185 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: Both are in there. 186 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: But but but you cannot mention if one without those 187 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: two names. 188 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: No, you can't. And you know, I've tried to tell 189 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 2: the story of the sport through the world champions of 190 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: each decade and the great teams of each decade, but 191 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to make space for drivers who weren't champions 192 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: that also had an impact on the sport. And Bruce, 193 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 2: of course you cannot. You cannot talk about the story 194 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 2: of the sport without talking about Bruce McLaren. The incredible 195 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 2: impact that he's had, that his team continues to have 196 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: in the sport it is. It is something incredibly rare. 197 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: It's something I think really beautiful. And seeing what McLaren 198 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: are doing this year is is testament to him to 199 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: his his legacy. You know everything that he that he 200 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: that he represented as he said, you know, success is 201 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: not is not going out in years alone. 202 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 3: Do you like if one as much as you always have? 203 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: And the reason I asked that if I look at 204 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: Frank Williams and the Frank Williams era and those guys 205 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: who just sort of greased up in a shed and 206 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: put a car together and it crashed, it blew up, 207 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: versus what you deal with now, which is is corporate. 208 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: It's a different world, isn't it. 209 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: It is a different world. But the skill set, the dedication, 210 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: the the incredible respect that I have for the drivers 211 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: in what they do in this incredible thing that all 212 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: of us in our dreams wish we could be able 213 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 2: to do, to dance with a car like that, to 214 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: take it to the absolute edge of indiesion and hold 215 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 2: it there. The great designers, the great mechanics, the great engineers. 216 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: You know, this is a sport that is filled with 217 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: incredible minds and incredibly talented people. That hasn't changed from 218 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty through to twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five. 219 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: It's the same mixture of man and machine and everybody 220 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: pushing to the absolute limit. So yeah, you know, look, 221 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: it's not it's not grease monkeys working in garages anymore, 222 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: or putting the cars together in a field. It is. 223 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: It's big bucks and it is a big industry. And 224 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 2: you know, some people might say that's a a bit 225 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: cold compared to how it was in the old days, 226 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: but those same skills make the difference today just as 227 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: they just as they always have. And seeing a great 228 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 2: driver at the limit, that is as true today as 229 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: it was back then. 230 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: Right, Oh, pressure time for you? Your call? Who wins 231 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: the constructors? Who wins the drivers? 232 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: Mclarn win the constructors, and at the current rate, I 233 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: think might even finish second. And for the drivers, I 234 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 2: think it's going to be nip and tuck. I've been 235 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 2: saying for a long time. I think Lando has the 236 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: opportunity to take it. But I honestly think McLaren woke 237 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 2: up far too late and later than most of their 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: rivals to the fact that they had the fastest car 239 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 2: and the sport. The difficulty that they have is that 240 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: Oscar Piastre has come in on very fast, and in 241 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: not wanting to upset Oscar and his ascent to the top, 242 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: they may just have inadvertently gifted the crowd back to Maxistap. 243 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: And if Lando loses by less than ten points, as 244 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 2: I think will be incredibly likely. If he does lose 245 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: this championship, it could come down to single figures. McLaren 246 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: will kick themselves. How much will Lando pick McLaren if that? 247 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 2: If that comes to pass, But I think we've got 248 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: an amazing six races. Listen, half of these six remaining 249 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: races are sprint racist and there's more points available in 250 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 2: those rounds. It's doable. It's never been done before, but 251 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: that's not to mean it can't happen. And I am 252 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,599 Speaker 2: an eternal optimist that we've got a championship fight, and 253 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: if it goes down to Abu Dabi, I say, bring 254 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: it on. It's going to be a great fun. 255 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: It's going to be fantastic. Well, congratulations on the book. 256 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: We wish you all the very bits with that, and 257 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: we'll get you on again soon. Before the end of 258 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: the season, hopefully so we can wax lyrical about Liam's success. 259 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 2: I would love nothing more than to talk about Liam 260 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: Lawson's success. 261 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: All right, We'll hold you to that, Will Buxton this Morning. 262 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 263 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 264 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.