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Speaker 1: Muriolds as are men in Australia. Murray, good afternoon, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon. Hey, what's happening in Sydney. The police are

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Speaker 1: now saying that the leak to the media is compromising

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Speaker 1: their investigation.

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Speaker 2: That's why they didn't tell anyone. That's right exactly. The

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Speaker 2: caravan in question, the guy who owns the caravan was

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Speaker 2: already in custody and he was arrested as part of

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Speaker 2: Operation Strikeforce Pearl. Now, Strikeforce Pearl was set up when

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Speaker 2: last November, when the first of what is now a

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Speaker 2: string of anti Semitic attacks happened in Sydney's Eastern Suburbs,

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Speaker 2: a police task force was thrown together because it was

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Speaker 2: clearly an anti Semitic attack. Had Nazi symbolism was sprayed

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Speaker 2: on the walls of an Eastern Suburbs apartment block, on

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Speaker 2: cars in the neighborhood as well, and of course a

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Speaker 2: couple of cars were set on fire. So that began

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Speaker 2: Operation Perl. People taking into custody ten so far, and

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Speaker 2: the owner of the caravan is among them. Now police

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Speaker 2: learned of this caravan. When's the exact data? Looking at

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Speaker 2: my notes here, Okay, if I told you it was

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Speaker 2: like about nearly the best part of three weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: but nothing was told of the public, and you know,

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Speaker 2: for obvious reasons. I mean police are now being criticized

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Speaker 2: and you know the government as well state government for

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Speaker 2: not you know, letting people in on the fact that

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Speaker 2: these people were a in custody and B this investigation

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Speaker 2: was ongoing, and the police, in my view correctly point out, well,

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Speaker 2: are we really going to tell the bad guys who

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Speaker 2: were involved here every step of our investigation. What they've got,

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Speaker 2: of course, is this caravan packed with explosives thought to

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Speaker 2: be used in mining, no detonator with a note that

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Speaker 2: indicates you know, a range of Jewish if I use

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Speaker 2: the words targets and potential you know, potential targets. But

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Speaker 2: at this stage, look, authorities are are saying that the

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Speaker 2: inquiries are ongoing. You had overnight, you had another anti

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Speaker 2: Semitic attack, this time a Jewish school in the eastern

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Speaker 2: suburbs of Sydney at Marubra Mount Sinai College and a

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Speaker 2: nearby property. The kids went back to school today and

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Speaker 2: these dreadful words spread on the front of the school.

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Speaker 2: This is an ongoing issue. Terrible, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: It's dreadful, absolutely dreadful. You've got one hundred counter terrorism

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Speaker 2: investigators now involved in this. The Prime Minister called a

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Speaker 2: national Cabinet meeting. Interestingly forty eight hours after this caravan

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Speaker 2: was discovered. So so many moving parts here, mate, so

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Speaker 2: many moving parties.

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Speaker 1: Yes, certainly, I certainly is. And you've got to feel

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Speaker 1: I mean kids going to school and seeing that that's

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Speaker 1: just not as possible. You've got one hundred people told

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Speaker 1: to evacuate because of bushfires mushy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is ongoing down of Actoria and just you know,

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Speaker 2: they're up in Queensland, they're getting flooded out again in

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Speaker 2: Country Victory. These fires are continuing the rage in a

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Speaker 2: number of areas. I just was struck today I was

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Speaker 2: reading some of these stories. Some of these volunteers have

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Speaker 2: been going NonStop for more than forty days. They miss Christmas,

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Speaker 2: they missed their summer holidays because they've been out there

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Speaker 2: in the field. These are volunteers, by the way, fighting

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Speaker 2: these fires. You've got two big blazers burning at the

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Speaker 2: southern and northern ends of the Grampians National Park and

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Speaker 2: listeners may know this beautiful part of the world. You know,

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Speaker 2: rugged gorgeous forests, all sorts of rocky promontories and so on.

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Speaker 2: But the big worry this afternoon is that these two

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Speaker 2: fires could join up. If that happens and the weather

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Speaker 2: gets hot and windy, that's the forecast for the weekend,

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Speaker 2: certainly Sunday and Monday, that could create one big fire

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Speaker 2: and that would have a massive firefront. The other big

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Speaker 2: concern down there, the little desert fire is burning. It's

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Speaker 2: got more than seventy thousand hectares already blackened. Now you've

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Speaker 2: got property lost, you know, luckily no casualties at this

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Speaker 2: point because the people have been worn very very early

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Speaker 2: on to get out if they can. But again they're

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Speaker 2: changing weather could change that situation quite dramatically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as you say, heroes, they are. Murray, thank you

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Speaker 1: for that. Murray. Old's our Australia correspondent out of Sydney.

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