1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Fast Track Backtrack. The ministerial sign off powers have been 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: ditched in an amendment to the Fast Track Approvals Bill. 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: That means Old Shane Jones will have his wings clipped. 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: Well, there's a difference between a campaign politician and a 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 2: member of cabinet, and collective responsibility means that I'm adopting 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: the Shakespearean approach. All's well, that ends well. 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: Almost four hundred projects have been applied to be listed 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: in the bill, which is set to be passed before 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: the end of the year after going through the Environment 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Select Committee. Ten percent of them, get this, just ten 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: percent are made up of mining and quarry projects, despite 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: all of the bluster that you heard from the opposition 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: to this, and actually the mining portion just five percent, 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: most of it housing development stuff like that. Josie Vidal 15 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: is with Straterra. They are fund at Straterra Minerals. They 16 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: are funded by the mining sector and we're here keen 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: to hear their views this morning. Josie, good morning, good morning, 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with me. Is this going to 19 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: change whether because I know that you as proposed submitted 20 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: on the bill and you were quite a proponent of it, 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: will it change your support for the bill. Is it 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: going to slow the whole process down in your view? 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: No, I don't think it will slow it down. Well, 24 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: it can't be called fast track and fast I am 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: worried that there's some pressure to water things down and 26 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: we can't go back to where we are now because 27 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 3: you can't get things done in this country. So I 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 3: understand why they've changed the ministerial decision making because there 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: was a lot of pressure on. But it does put 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: a lot of emphasis on the expert panels to be 31 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: truly expert and not to be beside the sort of 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: panels we already go up against where their consideration is 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: entirely environmental and there's no considerations for economic, social, and 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: cultural impacts. You know, we want a more holistic views. 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 3: So if this is the watering, let that be the 36 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: end of it. And then the Selectmmittee report back on 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: the eighteenth of October, and let's get this bill through 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 3: before the end of the year so we can get 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 3: some things done. 40 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but now they've given an inch, you know that 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: they're going to take a mile, aren't they. In terms 42 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: of who's on these committees, as you say, who do 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: they represent, what interest do they represent? They're going to 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: have some environmentalists on there, they're going to have some 45 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: representatives from EWE, they're going to have some in certain circumstances. 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't sound like the quick drive through 47 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: eating experience that I was describing earlier. 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: Yes, well that's where the pressure is going to be. 49 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: That for us, the heart of the bill. 50 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: Is the one stop shop, which will make things a 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: lot faster. So at the moment with a mining project, 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 4: you have to go and knock on every door of government, 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 4: and some are very slow, and some are belligerent, and 54 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: some don't even agree with mining. So if that can 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 4: come into a one stop shop, we get decision made quickly, 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: that's the goal for us. I never understood the resistance 57 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: to ministers making decisions because ministers make decisions every day 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: and we wrote them. 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: In to do that. But I can see that there 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 3: was significant pressure, and as you say, it's interesting, the 61 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: pressure was on things like mining, which is five percent 62 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: of the project that was out mining and quarry and 63 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 3: you'll have no houses and no infrastructure. So it is 64 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: a holistic views. 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: It is indeed, Josie, thanks so much for your time 66 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: and your view on that. That's Josie Vidal from stra Terra. 67 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: She's the mining chief executive there at Stra Terra Minerals. 68 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: It has just gone seven away from six Ryan Bridge. 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: Actually I emailed last night Bathurst Resources because they've got 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: the mine in Stockton and they've got another twenty years 71 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: of coal that they can get out of it. They 72 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: run the Stockton mind and they wanted to use this 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: fast track bill. He's in Australia the boss at the moment, 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: but I just said, what do you think is this 75 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: going to slow it all down? Is this going to 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: be a big deals? Basically, hopefully the changes won't take 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: away from the main point, which is exactly what Josie 78 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: has just said. It is the one stop shop, the 79 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: streamlined system to get their resources and consents so they 80 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: can get digging for And clearly we need energy in 81 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: New Zealand right now, don't we. For more from News 82 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: Talks B listen live on air or online and keep 83 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: our shows with you wherever you go with our podcasts 84 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.