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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business. Yeah, mis UIs correspondent. So that's

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Speaker 1: hello Dan, Hello Heather. Okay, So the Putin meetings off, why.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's a good question, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: I think, just like you mentioned in the in the

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Speaker 2: World Wires, I think it's just Russia saying, oh, we're

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Speaker 2: not gonna We're not going to stop fighting at the

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Speaker 2: at the front line right now. And you know, Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump is like, well, why go all the way to

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Speaker 2: this next meeting and spend three hours or more talking

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Speaker 2: and come out and say, well, we still are at

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Speaker 2: a stalemate. Yeah, And it looks like that is you

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Speaker 2: know exactly what would have happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, because Putin's gonna keep fighting because he's not getting

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Speaker 1: what he wants, right, which is is Zelenski to give

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Speaker 1: up land.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I mean I mean he had

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Speaker 2: that that call last week with President Trump and it

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Speaker 2: was there was a lot of speculation that we were

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Speaker 2: going to send long range Tomahawk missiles over to Ukraine

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Speaker 2: and and those are our missiles that Putin doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to see because they can go way into Russia, and

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Speaker 2: Zelenzas said that it was a Tomahawk's issue that forced

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Speaker 2: Russia to engage in a discussion. But now apparently Putin's saying, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to do this, and Trump doesn't want

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Speaker 2: to not come out with something that he can sort

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Speaker 2: of spin around as being a successful agreement, or at

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Speaker 2: least on the path towards a successful agreement.

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Speaker 1: Listen, this business with Virginia Giufrey and the book. Is

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Speaker 1: this putting pressure on the law makers in your part

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Speaker 1: of the world to release the Epstein files.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I don't know. I think this is

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Speaker 2: so cyclical. We seem to go through this every couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks where there seems to be a big push

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Speaker 2: and then something else in the news cycle kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, pushes this out of the way. But again,

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Speaker 2: I mean this memoir that just came out, you know,

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Speaker 2: she talks about how she was beaten, how she was

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Speaker 2: sexually attacked by an unidentified prime minister, and that's got

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Speaker 2: a lot of speculation because she said she was fearing

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Speaker 2: that she might die a sex slave. And in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: you've got Republicans over here that are saying, okay, We've

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Speaker 2: got to get former President Clinton into this investigation right

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Speaker 2: now because he knew Epstein as well. So now the

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Speaker 2: Oversight Committee is trying to work on arranging some kind

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Speaker 2: of meeting. It'll be a closed door meeting with the

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Speaker 2: former president to see what he knew and when he

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Speaker 2: knew it and if there's anything that can actually move

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Speaker 2: this forward.

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Speaker 1: Well, hold on the tech. I mean, are they interviewing

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Speaker 1: Bill because Bill was kind of mites with people at

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Speaker 1: the time, or have they starting to frame him up

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Speaker 1: as some sort of a suspect.

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Speaker 2: You I think they're just trying to talk to him

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Speaker 2: because he knew Epstein and that is all that we

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Speaker 2: know at this point in time. I think Clinton's going

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Speaker 2: to deny. I mean that he has in the past

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Speaker 2: it was nothing more than a passing acquaintanceship. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know Epstein has got there's pictures with everybody, isn't there.

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Speaker 2: I mean everybody in Hollywood seems to have had their picture,

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Speaker 2: or at least quite a few people in Hollywood and

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Speaker 2: politicians have had their picture with Epstein at one time

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Speaker 2: or another. And it's just the way it is when

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Speaker 2: you move in those circles. But how well he knew

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Speaker 2: him and what he knew. I mean, that's what this

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Speaker 2: whole thing. May you know, come out and tell us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, now, the Warner Brothers Paramount deal is an ideal.

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Speaker 2: Well no, I mean they wanted they were offering some

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Speaker 2: kind of a you know, ridiculous amount of money right

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Speaker 2: right now, like you know, you know, basically, people are saying, well,

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Speaker 2: why is this such a big deal. They said no

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Speaker 2: to a sixty billion dollar offer, by the way, which

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Speaker 2: is a heck of a lot of money. But we

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Speaker 2: know that streaming has transformed the industry. It's stealing audiences

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Speaker 2: away from traditional TV broadcasts, that is sapping advertising revenue.

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Speaker 2: So what they're thinking is that any deal that Warner

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Speaker 2: Brothers Discovery would give a buyer, you'd have a major studio,

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Speaker 2: you'd have a leading streaming service, but you'd also have

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Speaker 2: a lot of debt. I think there was you know,

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Speaker 2: thirty five to forty million dollars in debt there, so

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Speaker 2: Paramount most likely to purchase the company. They're saying, Netflix

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Speaker 2: has been in the works. The thing is, streaming services

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Speaker 2: are becoming so powerful right now, I mean, and they're

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Speaker 2: all raising their rates. Remember how we we dumped cable.

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Speaker 2: We cut the cord because we said we were tired

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Speaker 2: of paying two or three hundred dollars a month for cable.

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Speaker 2: We're going to go to streaming services. Now everybody's got six,

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Speaker 2: seven or eight different streaming services and you're paying just

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Speaker 2: as much or more as you were. So these guys

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Speaker 2: really do hold the hold the strings of this Thingday's.

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Speaker 1: Very good point actually there, Dan, Thanks very much, mate.

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Speaker 1: Dan Mitchison, US correspondent. For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive,

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