1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk zed B. 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:15,213 Speaker 1: Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on 3 00:00:15,333 --> 00:00:17,133 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio halle. 4 00:00:16,933 --> 00:00:19,013 Speaker 2: Goret New Zealand's Welcome to Matt and Tyler Full Show 5 00:00:19,053 --> 00:00:22,013 Speaker 2: Podcast number two five four for the first of December. 6 00:00:22,213 --> 00:00:28,893 Speaker 2: It's December. Ah, you'll tiede. Actually you'll ti it only starts. Yeah, 7 00:00:28,893 --> 00:00:30,693 Speaker 2: there's I forget when you'll tide starts? 8 00:00:30,693 --> 00:00:31,613 Speaker 3: What is your tide? 9 00:00:31,732 --> 00:00:33,133 Speaker 2: That's the Christmas season. 10 00:00:33,093 --> 00:00:37,293 Speaker 3: Right, I should know that this shows my naivete. But 11 00:00:37,412 --> 00:00:40,533 Speaker 3: the first of December You'll tied or no, I don't. 12 00:00:40,333 --> 00:00:43,092 Speaker 2: Think you You'll tie refers to the Christmas season or 13 00:00:43,173 --> 00:00:46,852 Speaker 2: the time of winter Solstice. Originating from ancient genetics festival 14 00:00:46,893 --> 00:00:49,452 Speaker 2: of Yule, it can be used as a synonym for 15 00:00:49,573 --> 00:00:52,853 Speaker 2: Christmas time and the period between the December twenty fourth 16 00:00:52,893 --> 00:00:56,013 Speaker 2: and jan sixth. Ah, So it's not actually so when 17 00:00:56,013 --> 00:00:59,373 Speaker 2: you say it's Yule tide, you'll tied is actually after Christmas? 18 00:00:59,493 --> 00:00:59,652 Speaker 4: Yeah? 19 00:00:59,733 --> 00:01:02,773 Speaker 3: Christmas even tall your New Year, yeah, good old Germans. Yeah, yes, 20 00:01:02,853 --> 00:01:03,533 Speaker 3: I had a party. 21 00:01:03,573 --> 00:01:04,572 Speaker 2: It's not actually you'll tide. 22 00:01:04,653 --> 00:01:04,813 Speaker 5: Yeah. 23 00:01:04,813 --> 00:01:07,933 Speaker 2: But anyway, that's first of December. So there's a bit 24 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:11,093 Speaker 2: of Chris Street chat on the show. We got some 25 00:01:11,293 --> 00:01:16,652 Speaker 2: abuse from the bug man. Yeah, rude, bloody climbarder, blug 26 00:01:16,813 --> 00:01:17,292 Speaker 2: bug man. 27 00:01:17,572 --> 00:01:19,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, came in, came in hot, came in hot. 28 00:01:20,453 --> 00:01:23,173 Speaker 2: But there was a good chat and yeah. 29 00:01:22,853 --> 00:01:24,892 Speaker 3: Yeah bet a hunting chat in there as well, which 30 00:01:24,932 --> 00:01:25,333 Speaker 3: was great. 31 00:01:25,893 --> 00:01:29,053 Speaker 2: Some quite shocking stories in the hunting chats. And yeah, 32 00:01:29,093 --> 00:01:30,053 Speaker 2: I think you'll enjoy the show. 33 00:01:30,133 --> 00:01:32,452 Speaker 3: Download, subscribe and give us a review, give a toast 34 00:01:32,693 --> 00:01:33,853 Speaker 3: you all right, okay, I love you. 35 00:01:34,533 --> 00:01:39,173 Speaker 1: Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything 36 00:01:39,173 --> 00:01:43,253 Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News. 37 00:01:43,013 --> 00:01:46,493 Speaker 3: Talk said, be very very good afternoon to you. Welcome 38 00:01:46,533 --> 00:01:50,213 Speaker 3: into Monday show. Hope you had a fantastic weekend wherever 39 00:01:50,293 --> 00:01:53,573 Speaker 3: you are around the country. Matt Heath, Hello, Hello. 40 00:01:53,373 --> 00:01:56,053 Speaker 2: Tyler, Hello everyone, Thank you so much for tuning in 41 00:01:56,093 --> 00:01:59,453 Speaker 2: your great new Zealanders. Now, I've long steared that nine 42 00:01:59,533 --> 00:02:03,093 Speaker 2: two nine two the Tens machine here at news Talks, 43 00:02:03,093 --> 00:02:06,173 Speaker 2: he'd b is the oracle of information. You have better 44 00:02:06,213 --> 00:02:09,333 Speaker 2: than any AI, better than Google. Yep, because there's so 45 00:02:09,373 --> 00:02:12,253 Speaker 2: many smart people and just so many people that listen 46 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:15,253 Speaker 2: to Matt Entile Afternoons on news Tooks, he'd be I 47 00:02:15,293 --> 00:02:17,852 Speaker 2: mean particularly after the last radio survey. 48 00:02:17,972 --> 00:02:19,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, and thank you for that very much to our 49 00:02:19,653 --> 00:02:20,933 Speaker 3: dear listeners, and there's a lot of you. 50 00:02:21,093 --> 00:02:23,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to see them the numbers going up 51 00:02:23,053 --> 00:02:26,493 Speaker 2: and op and up. But anyway, sometimes it does get 52 00:02:26,493 --> 00:02:31,413 Speaker 2: it wrong. So on Friday, you may remember that I 53 00:02:31,413 --> 00:02:33,493 Speaker 2: put out and look, this is on me, it is 54 00:02:33,532 --> 00:02:35,733 Speaker 2: on you. Yeah, I put out a medical problem. I 55 00:02:35,733 --> 00:02:40,172 Speaker 2: had to the nine two nine two oracle and look, 56 00:02:40,213 --> 00:02:41,773 Speaker 2: no one on nine two nine two was an a 57 00:02:41,893 --> 00:02:47,773 Speaker 2: ability to inspect or you know, what is it called consult? 58 00:02:47,813 --> 00:02:49,373 Speaker 2: What do you call when the doctor sees something. 59 00:02:49,693 --> 00:02:52,053 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just thinking analyzed, But there's not quite the 60 00:02:52,133 --> 00:02:53,012 Speaker 3: right way diagnose. 61 00:02:53,373 --> 00:02:58,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's a word. Anyway, it was just on 62 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:00,373 Speaker 2: how I described it. So anyway, what came back on 63 00:03:00,453 --> 00:03:03,493 Speaker 2: nine two nine two about my toe and the swollen 64 00:03:03,613 --> 00:03:06,453 Speaker 2: joint on it was gout? Yep, gout. Hundreds and hundreds 65 00:03:06,493 --> 00:03:09,773 Speaker 2: of people were texting gout. But I thought, you know, 66 00:03:09,972 --> 00:03:12,173 Speaker 2: I might go one step further than nine two nine 67 00:03:12,293 --> 00:03:14,773 Speaker 2: two and actually go and see a doctor about it. 68 00:03:14,813 --> 00:03:16,933 Speaker 3: Sounds smart, actually, and it sounds like a right move. 69 00:03:17,133 --> 00:03:19,292 Speaker 2: So I went to a video doctor and I said, hey, 70 00:03:19,453 --> 00:03:22,293 Speaker 2: I've got gout, and they said, what makes you think that? 71 00:03:22,453 --> 00:03:24,532 Speaker 2: I said, well, I asked my listeners on my radio show, 72 00:03:24,532 --> 00:03:25,453 Speaker 2: and they said, you've got. 73 00:03:25,293 --> 00:03:26,572 Speaker 3: Gout yea, and they're never wrong. 74 00:03:26,613 --> 00:03:29,733 Speaker 2: On your toe and she looked at it and said, 75 00:03:30,013 --> 00:03:35,973 Speaker 2: that's not gout, that's an infected joint and you need 76 00:03:36,013 --> 00:03:39,773 Speaker 2: to get into A and E right now. Oh no, 77 00:03:39,973 --> 00:03:42,653 Speaker 2: because this could be really, really bad. So you need 78 00:03:42,693 --> 00:03:45,933 Speaker 2: to get into an emergency center right now. 79 00:03:46,053 --> 00:03:46,373 Speaker 4: Okay. 80 00:03:46,613 --> 00:03:49,253 Speaker 2: So I went into the emergency center and you know 81 00:03:49,293 --> 00:03:51,573 Speaker 2: what they said. What they did an X ray? They said, 82 00:03:51,573 --> 00:03:53,293 Speaker 2: you what you got us a broken toe? They mate, 83 00:03:53,413 --> 00:03:57,453 Speaker 2: oh mate, you got a broken toe and it's infected. 84 00:03:57,933 --> 00:04:00,813 Speaker 3: Can I say I'm happy for you? Because when it 85 00:04:00,853 --> 00:04:03,613 Speaker 3: came through there and ninety nine percent of people said 86 00:04:03,613 --> 00:04:06,133 Speaker 3: it was gout, and in fact, a railroaded the show 87 00:04:06,173 --> 00:04:07,933 Speaker 3: for a good half an hour we had gout chat. 88 00:04:08,773 --> 00:04:11,533 Speaker 3: But all that while I was thinking, that's the one 89 00:04:11,573 --> 00:04:13,213 Speaker 3: thing you don't want. And I know that you live 90 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:15,333 Speaker 3: pretty clean for the most part. You know, you eat 91 00:04:15,373 --> 00:04:17,533 Speaker 3: pretty well. I've seen you. We lunches there, and I thought, 92 00:04:17,853 --> 00:04:20,933 Speaker 3: how the hell is Matt Heath have gouts? So then 93 00:04:20,973 --> 00:04:23,133 Speaker 3: when you text through and said, hey, it's it's just 94 00:04:23,173 --> 00:04:26,413 Speaker 3: an eviction. I thought, hallelujah, even though that sounds pretty 95 00:04:26,413 --> 00:04:27,213 Speaker 3: full noise as well. 96 00:04:27,373 --> 00:04:31,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, although the infection's quite bad and it's not a 97 00:04:31,933 --> 00:04:35,093 Speaker 2: good thing. It's a broken toe that got infected it. 98 00:04:35,533 --> 00:04:37,333 Speaker 2: But yeah, no, you're right beck out. 99 00:04:37,373 --> 00:04:40,693 Speaker 3: But anyway, but you so you obviously broke your toe 100 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:43,613 Speaker 3: while you were running this marathon. Mate. I don't want to, 101 00:04:43,693 --> 00:04:45,893 Speaker 3: you know, pump up your ties, but that's pretty hardcore. 102 00:04:46,053 --> 00:04:48,453 Speaker 3: That's somewhere you broke a bone and then keep. 103 00:04:48,373 --> 00:04:51,973 Speaker 2: Pushing through this textas says, I meant that you had 104 00:04:51,973 --> 00:04:55,773 Speaker 2: gout of the head and this Texas Mars says, I 105 00:04:55,853 --> 00:04:57,813 Speaker 2: still think you should cut it off. So you know, 106 00:04:58,293 --> 00:05:01,413 Speaker 2: as I say, I'm still I still see nine two 107 00:05:01,493 --> 00:05:04,213 Speaker 2: nine two as the oracle of truth. So yeah, you're right. 108 00:05:04,413 --> 00:05:06,173 Speaker 2: I'll go to the doctor and see if it's my it's. 109 00:05:06,093 --> 00:05:08,933 Speaker 3: Out of the brain seeking opinions from it. Tex Machine 110 00:05:08,933 --> 00:05:10,933 Speaker 3: of Goods. All right, but good to hear that gap 111 00:05:11,093 --> 00:05:14,013 Speaker 3: right on to in toe. Let's go on to today's 112 00:05:14,013 --> 00:05:16,693 Speaker 3: show after three o'clock because it is the first of December, 113 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:19,853 Speaker 3: but Christmas tree scene signs all over the shop for 114 00:05:19,933 --> 00:05:23,493 Speaker 3: people selling Christmas trees. Real of course, and traditionally many 115 00:05:23,893 --> 00:05:26,933 Speaker 3: people get them up today the first of December, twenty 116 00:05:27,093 --> 00:05:29,933 Speaker 3: four days before the big event. There's a lot of 117 00:05:30,013 --> 00:05:34,053 Speaker 3: questions around whacking up your real Christmas tree twenty four 118 00:05:34,133 --> 00:05:35,173 Speaker 3: days before the big day? 119 00:05:35,333 --> 00:05:38,293 Speaker 2: Can you can you get a Christmas tree from December 120 00:05:38,333 --> 00:05:40,892 Speaker 2: one all the way through to December twenty five? Actually 121 00:05:40,893 --> 00:05:43,173 Speaker 2: you've got to get it through a boxing day, so 122 00:05:43,453 --> 00:05:45,533 Speaker 2: you kind of got to get it through to maybe 123 00:05:45,933 --> 00:05:49,693 Speaker 2: the twenty seventh. So can you run a real Christmas 124 00:05:49,733 --> 00:05:52,293 Speaker 2: tree cut off in a bucket for that long? Because 125 00:05:52,293 --> 00:05:53,053 Speaker 2: I just don't think you can. 126 00:05:53,293 --> 00:05:55,133 Speaker 3: Sounds like a hard ask, so I don't support that. 127 00:05:55,173 --> 00:05:57,693 Speaker 2: I'm a huge Christmas fan. I love every second of Christmas, 128 00:05:57,733 --> 00:06:00,693 Speaker 2: so I'll be punishing my kids with Michael Bouble all 129 00:06:01,133 --> 00:06:01,613 Speaker 2: all months. 130 00:06:01,653 --> 00:06:02,533 Speaker 3: Yep, good man. 131 00:06:02,853 --> 00:06:05,693 Speaker 2: But if you're doing a real Christmas tree, I think 132 00:06:05,733 --> 00:06:07,533 Speaker 2: two weeks is the most you can keep it going 133 00:06:07,573 --> 00:06:09,373 Speaker 2: before it gets brea and wilty and ugly. 134 00:06:09,453 --> 00:06:11,093 Speaker 3: It's a long time to keep something alive like a 135 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:13,653 Speaker 3: Christmas tree. But that is after three o'clock. After two 136 00:06:13,693 --> 00:06:16,013 Speaker 3: o'clock news out today A to need a woman who 137 00:06:16,053 --> 00:06:19,733 Speaker 3: died during a hunting trip. She suffered an accidental gunshot 138 00:06:19,773 --> 00:06:23,293 Speaker 3: wound after losing her footing rather on a steep, slippery terrain. 139 00:06:23,653 --> 00:06:26,613 Speaker 3: This is a coroner's report, so in the findings released today, 140 00:06:27,533 --> 00:06:30,693 Speaker 3: coroner I should say Mary Anne Borrowdale ruled that the 141 00:06:30,733 --> 00:06:34,133 Speaker 3: forty eight year old Katrina Ansley died in twenty twenty 142 00:06:34,133 --> 00:06:36,493 Speaker 3: three after her rifle discharged while she was alone in 143 00:06:36,613 --> 00:06:42,653 Speaker 3: dense beech forest inland Atago. It's an incredibly, incredibly sad accident, 144 00:06:42,893 --> 00:06:46,933 Speaker 3: but we know there are a truckload of Kiwi hunters 145 00:06:46,933 --> 00:06:49,133 Speaker 3: out there. It is a part of growing up in 146 00:06:49,133 --> 00:06:51,293 Speaker 3: this beautiful country that you've got the ability to go 147 00:06:51,373 --> 00:06:55,053 Speaker 3: out into some pretty dense, full noise areas and try 148 00:06:55,093 --> 00:06:55,933 Speaker 3: and get yourself a feed. 149 00:06:56,613 --> 00:06:59,973 Speaker 2: Yeah. So yeah, tragic, tragic story. But eight hundred and 150 00:06:59,973 --> 00:07:02,773 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. What's it like out there, hunters? What's 151 00:07:02,813 --> 00:07:06,413 Speaker 2: the safety like? Do you feel safe out there? What 152 00:07:06,533 --> 00:07:10,253 Speaker 2: are things that you should absolutely to get right as 153 00:07:10,293 --> 00:07:13,933 Speaker 2: a hunter out there in the wilderness? Yeah, it should 154 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:15,813 Speaker 2: be an interesting chat after two o'clock. 155 00:07:15,933 --> 00:07:18,053 Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about pet bond. 156 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:21,373 Speaker 3: So new rules taking into effects today allow tenants to 157 00:07:21,413 --> 00:07:24,933 Speaker 3: have pets unless a landlord has reasonable grounds to refuse 158 00:07:25,093 --> 00:07:27,293 Speaker 3: so the separate pet bond is up to two weeks 159 00:07:27,293 --> 00:07:29,173 Speaker 3: rent and can now be added on top of the 160 00:07:29,173 --> 00:07:32,053 Speaker 3: standard four week bond to cover damage beyond fear, where 161 00:07:32,173 --> 00:07:34,973 Speaker 3: in tear it will appear as a separate component within 162 00:07:35,013 --> 00:07:37,653 Speaker 3: a single bond record, allowing tenants to claim the pet 163 00:07:37,693 --> 00:07:40,973 Speaker 3: portion if they no longer have a pet, and landlords 164 00:07:40,973 --> 00:07:44,933 Speaker 3: cannot charge pet bonds retrospectively for existing tenants. But this 165 00:07:45,013 --> 00:07:47,133 Speaker 3: is a massive change. I mean pet owners out there, 166 00:07:48,013 --> 00:07:51,173 Speaker 3: many would know the hassle of trying to find a 167 00:07:51,253 --> 00:07:53,213 Speaker 3: rental if you've got a couple of dogs and a 168 00:07:53,213 --> 00:07:57,333 Speaker 3: couple of cats, where the market for trying to get 169 00:07:57,373 --> 00:07:59,573 Speaker 3: into a place becomes very very small. 170 00:07:59,813 --> 00:08:02,653 Speaker 2: So one hundred and eighty ten eighty should the standard 171 00:08:02,693 --> 00:08:05,173 Speaker 2: assumption be that you can have a pet in a 172 00:08:05,253 --> 00:08:08,253 Speaker 2: house that you're renting. So you go in your look 173 00:08:08,493 --> 00:08:12,373 Speaker 2: for a house instead of scouring for a pet friendly house. 174 00:08:12,573 --> 00:08:16,373 Speaker 2: You assume that all rentals can take pits and then 175 00:08:17,053 --> 00:08:19,853 Speaker 2: the landlord has to come up with reasonable grounds to decline. 176 00:08:20,413 --> 00:08:23,493 Speaker 2: That's what it is now December one. Yep, landlords must 177 00:08:23,773 --> 00:08:26,173 Speaker 2: say yes to pits unless there are reasonable grounds to clan. 178 00:08:26,293 --> 00:08:28,053 Speaker 2: What do you think about this? Eight hundred and eighty 179 00:08:28,333 --> 00:08:31,733 Speaker 2: ten eighty. I just think that so many people in 180 00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:35,613 Speaker 2: New Zealand have pits, so it's a very difficult situation. 181 00:08:36,093 --> 00:08:39,533 Speaker 2: If you're a landlord, I get it. Now, it's your house, 182 00:08:39,893 --> 00:08:43,813 Speaker 2: you want to protect it. But also we've got a 183 00:08:43,813 --> 00:08:45,653 Speaker 2: bunch of people that don't have houses and they need 184 00:08:45,693 --> 00:08:48,612 Speaker 2: to rent houses, and so many of them have pits. 185 00:08:48,892 --> 00:08:50,893 Speaker 2: And I think having pets is so good for people. 186 00:08:50,933 --> 00:08:53,013 Speaker 2: I think it's great for their mental health. It's definitely 187 00:08:53,053 --> 00:08:56,853 Speaker 2: great for kids having pits. So do we want to 188 00:08:56,933 --> 00:08:59,133 Speaker 2: rule a lot of people out of having pits because 189 00:08:59,173 --> 00:09:02,133 Speaker 2: they can't get into rental houses. I don't know. I 190 00:09:02,173 --> 00:09:05,333 Speaker 2: think the standard should be yes, and that's what it's 191 00:09:05,372 --> 00:09:05,933 Speaker 2: going to be now. 192 00:09:06,012 --> 00:09:07,613 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you're a 193 00:09:07,653 --> 00:09:09,653 Speaker 3: landlord currently, how do you feel about this? Is this 194 00:09:09,732 --> 00:09:12,173 Speaker 3: going to change things for you? Have you always said 195 00:09:12,213 --> 00:09:13,933 Speaker 3: no to pets? And maybe you're going to get out 196 00:09:13,933 --> 00:09:16,533 Speaker 3: of the game, as some texts have said. And if 197 00:09:16,573 --> 00:09:19,173 Speaker 3: you're a renter, is this going to make your life 198 00:09:19,372 --> 00:09:22,012 Speaker 3: a whole lot easier? We'll say Matt that when we 199 00:09:22,053 --> 00:09:24,133 Speaker 3: rented out our place down at christ Gitch, it was 200 00:09:24,213 --> 00:09:26,933 Speaker 3: important that we rented out to dog owners. We made 201 00:09:26,973 --> 00:09:30,892 Speaker 3: that pretty clear, and the property manager kind of tried 202 00:09:30,892 --> 00:09:33,333 Speaker 3: to steer us away from that idea. Two dogs apparently 203 00:09:33,372 --> 00:09:35,093 Speaker 3: was a bit much. It might be a little bit 204 00:09:35,173 --> 00:09:38,293 Speaker 3: more damage to the property. But we're pretty firm and say, no, 205 00:09:38,453 --> 00:09:40,453 Speaker 3: we know what it's like as a dog owner. We're 206 00:09:40,453 --> 00:09:42,093 Speaker 3: going to give it to someone with a couple of dogs. 207 00:09:42,612 --> 00:09:45,973 Speaker 3: But can a dog do more than two weeks bond? 208 00:09:46,093 --> 00:09:48,733 Speaker 3: So the situation says a pet bond of up to 209 00:09:48,773 --> 00:09:50,813 Speaker 3: two weeks rent can be charged on top of a 210 00:09:50,852 --> 00:09:54,093 Speaker 3: general four week bond. So going back, now, would you 211 00:09:54,492 --> 00:09:56,373 Speaker 3: didn't charge a pet bond because it wasn't a think 212 00:09:56,413 --> 00:09:56,693 Speaker 3: then no? 213 00:09:56,813 --> 00:09:57,173 Speaker 2: Would you? 214 00:09:58,653 --> 00:09:58,853 Speaker 6: Yeah? 215 00:09:58,892 --> 00:10:02,093 Speaker 3: Probably would two weeks bond and then I would be 216 00:10:02,093 --> 00:10:04,852 Speaker 3: fair about it. But if the dog dug up the backyard, 217 00:10:05,012 --> 00:10:07,412 Speaker 3: I'd probably say, you know, I'm going to take that bond, 218 00:10:07,453 --> 00:10:09,413 Speaker 3: thank you very much and sort out the lawn. 219 00:10:09,773 --> 00:10:11,253 Speaker 2: The problem with us, and I'm sure we'll could be 220 00:10:11,252 --> 00:10:13,093 Speaker 2: pointed out on our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, 221 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:16,053 Speaker 2: is that the Tennessee Tribunal seems to be very much 222 00:10:16,093 --> 00:10:20,813 Speaker 2: in favor of renters instead of renters. Yes, rentees instead 223 00:10:20,813 --> 00:10:25,173 Speaker 2: of renters. Hanging on minute of tenants instead of landlords. 224 00:10:25,213 --> 00:10:27,252 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's it. Oh e one hundred eighty ten 225 00:10:27,333 --> 00:10:29,533 Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call the phone lines of 226 00:10:29,653 --> 00:10:31,852 Speaker 3: let Up back very shortly. It is a quarter past one. 227 00:10:32,693 --> 00:10:36,093 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 228 00:10:36,413 --> 00:10:41,213 Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks'd. 229 00:10:40,773 --> 00:10:44,492 Speaker 3: Be eighteen past one. We're talking about the new pet bonds. 230 00:10:44,492 --> 00:10:48,253 Speaker 3: That is an effect from today which means landlords cannot 231 00:10:48,773 --> 00:10:51,172 Speaker 3: object to someone coming into their property with a peed 232 00:10:51,213 --> 00:10:52,573 Speaker 3: unless I've got reasonable grounds. 233 00:10:52,732 --> 00:10:55,093 Speaker 2: Guys, you've got a couple of dogs and a couple 234 00:10:55,093 --> 00:10:57,133 Speaker 2: of cats by your own place. Owners should not be 235 00:10:57,173 --> 00:11:00,053 Speaker 2: forced into accepting things that they are against. Some landlords 236 00:11:00,053 --> 00:11:03,813 Speaker 2: except pets, some don't, and that's the way it should be. George, 237 00:11:05,132 --> 00:11:10,853 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Diane High there, how are you. 238 00:11:12,132 --> 00:11:12,693 Speaker 7: I'm well. 239 00:11:12,852 --> 00:11:17,373 Speaker 8: I'm well. I have two residential properties that I let, 240 00:11:18,132 --> 00:11:22,893 Speaker 8: and I'm very much an animal person, and I think 241 00:11:23,093 --> 00:11:27,213 Speaker 8: that it is really good that people will now be 242 00:11:28,492 --> 00:11:33,293 Speaker 8: will need to let people come with pets, and paying 243 00:11:33,293 --> 00:11:36,532 Speaker 8: the bond is just sensible, isn't it. You pay a 244 00:11:36,612 --> 00:11:39,573 Speaker 8: bond when people go into your properties so if we're 245 00:11:39,612 --> 00:11:43,933 Speaker 8: taking animals, I think that that should be a requirement 246 00:11:43,973 --> 00:11:48,252 Speaker 8: to pay the extra bond. But I think that one dog, 247 00:11:48,453 --> 00:11:53,732 Speaker 8: one cat is okay. I think I would think twice 248 00:11:53,773 --> 00:11:57,253 Speaker 8: about having two dogs and two cats with you. 249 00:11:57,813 --> 00:12:02,173 Speaker 2: That's an interesting point. Actually, what is the upper limit, 250 00:12:02,173 --> 00:12:06,333 Speaker 2: Because they're saying here that reasonable grounds to decline is 251 00:12:06,453 --> 00:12:09,693 Speaker 2: reasonable grounds that the person wants cats in there. I 252 00:12:09,693 --> 00:12:10,693 Speaker 2: think that's a reasonable ground. 253 00:12:10,732 --> 00:12:12,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, hundred percent. If you've got a cat factory that 254 00:12:13,012 --> 00:12:15,372 Speaker 3: you want to bring in someone's home, then I think 255 00:12:15,413 --> 00:12:17,733 Speaker 3: you can say no, You're okay with one or two, 256 00:12:17,852 --> 00:12:19,213 Speaker 3: but you bring in five, no way. 257 00:12:19,372 --> 00:12:22,172 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I would also say reasonable grounds two cats 258 00:12:22,173 --> 00:12:25,293 Speaker 2: and two dogs, that's that's a lot, Yeah, but I 259 00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:29,333 Speaker 2: guess it is. Yeah, that's an interesting one. I would 260 00:12:29,333 --> 00:12:31,412 Speaker 2: always assume that you have to pay for any damage 261 00:12:31,453 --> 00:12:33,973 Speaker 2: that you do, no matter what, whether it's you or 262 00:12:34,012 --> 00:12:37,933 Speaker 2: your dog, or your kids or your flatmates who whatever 263 00:12:37,973 --> 00:12:40,733 Speaker 2: damage has done to the house should be paid for 264 00:12:40,852 --> 00:12:43,053 Speaker 2: by the tenant, right, so. 265 00:12:43,573 --> 00:12:44,413 Speaker 8: Good good luck? 266 00:12:44,453 --> 00:12:44,773 Speaker 6: What's that? 267 00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:45,132 Speaker 4: Yeah? 268 00:12:45,892 --> 00:12:48,012 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem though, isn't it. When it goes 269 00:12:48,053 --> 00:12:50,493 Speaker 2: to the tendency tribunal, it seems to go one way. 270 00:12:50,492 --> 00:12:53,773 Speaker 8: That's right, it always is. And once they're gone, they're gone. 271 00:12:54,012 --> 00:12:57,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, you know, but yeah, I mean, in 272 00:12:57,132 --> 00:12:59,333 Speaker 3: our circumstance, it was an upper limit of two dogs. 273 00:12:59,372 --> 00:13:01,373 Speaker 3: I don't think we wouldn't have allowed three, because that, 274 00:13:01,573 --> 00:13:04,093 Speaker 3: to me and to my partner May was too many dogs. 275 00:13:04,732 --> 00:13:06,733 Speaker 3: And we didn't care too much about the cat situation. 276 00:13:07,132 --> 00:13:11,532 Speaker 3: But I got to say, and like, families obviously need rentals, absolutely, 277 00:13:11,892 --> 00:13:14,173 Speaker 3: but children do a lot of damage, and there's no 278 00:13:14,252 --> 00:13:16,333 Speaker 3: way I'd be asking for some sort of children bond. 279 00:13:16,773 --> 00:13:19,292 Speaker 3: But I always, you know, all honesty, I was more 280 00:13:19,333 --> 00:13:21,453 Speaker 3: worried about the kids doing some damage than a couple 281 00:13:21,453 --> 00:13:21,852 Speaker 3: of dogs. 282 00:13:22,093 --> 00:13:24,933 Speaker 8: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I've got a big family, 283 00:13:25,012 --> 00:13:27,173 Speaker 8: so you so I understand that. 284 00:13:28,533 --> 00:13:30,453 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thank you so much. Fur. 285 00:13:30,693 --> 00:13:33,773 Speaker 8: I just think that, yeah, you've got to be you know, 286 00:13:33,973 --> 00:13:34,652 Speaker 8: way it up at this. 287 00:13:34,973 --> 00:13:35,973 Speaker 6: Thank you. 288 00:13:36,453 --> 00:13:38,532 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. So what is the perfect tenant? 289 00:13:38,573 --> 00:13:38,732 Speaker 9: Then? 290 00:13:39,612 --> 00:13:42,493 Speaker 2: So, because I was that, don't you want a quiet family? Yeah, 291 00:13:42,612 --> 00:13:43,933 Speaker 2: isn't that what you want? But then you're saying the 292 00:13:43,973 --> 00:13:47,053 Speaker 2: quiet family has kids that are just running around with crayon, 293 00:13:47,093 --> 00:13:48,012 Speaker 2: destroying everything. 294 00:13:47,813 --> 00:13:50,293 Speaker 3: Ripping up the carpet, and yeah, yeah, crayone all over 295 00:13:50,333 --> 00:13:53,093 Speaker 3: the roads, wolves, I should say, But yeah, for us, 296 00:13:53,093 --> 00:13:55,772 Speaker 3: it was a family, young family, and these guys, as 297 00:13:55,773 --> 00:13:57,893 Speaker 3: I understand it, we're looking for some time before they 298 00:13:57,892 --> 00:13:59,813 Speaker 3: found a place. They had a couple of dogs, and 299 00:13:59,852 --> 00:14:01,653 Speaker 3: that to us was perfect. And part of the ration 300 00:14:01,813 --> 00:14:04,933 Speaker 3: now was that they would be thankful that would give 301 00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:06,852 Speaker 3: them an opportunity when other people hadn't. 302 00:14:07,333 --> 00:14:10,453 Speaker 2: So with that Red, So you're demanding. So you wanted 303 00:14:10,453 --> 00:14:12,093 Speaker 2: people that were thankful to be in your house. 304 00:14:12,413 --> 00:14:13,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they look after it. 305 00:14:14,973 --> 00:14:18,013 Speaker 2: Just just hearing me say say you you so, because 306 00:14:18,093 --> 00:14:20,293 Speaker 2: you've told me this a number of times about the 307 00:14:20,333 --> 00:14:21,893 Speaker 2: pet in your house, and I always thought it was 308 00:14:21,933 --> 00:14:23,853 Speaker 2: the kindness of your heart, because you've got a dog 309 00:14:23,973 --> 00:14:27,693 Speaker 2: and you're renting, and you thought you wanted to You 310 00:14:27,693 --> 00:14:29,533 Speaker 2: have asked people to allow you have a dog, so 311 00:14:29,573 --> 00:14:31,453 Speaker 2: you thought the least thing you could do when you're 312 00:14:31,493 --> 00:14:33,573 Speaker 2: renting your house out in christ Church was the same thing. 313 00:14:33,613 --> 00:14:35,093 Speaker 2: But now I find out you're trying to get some 314 00:14:35,173 --> 00:14:36,532 Speaker 2: kind of gratitude from. 315 00:14:36,053 --> 00:14:39,093 Speaker 3: The one percent. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is 316 00:14:39,133 --> 00:14:40,973 Speaker 3: the number to call if you're a landlord. How do 317 00:14:41,013 --> 00:14:43,453 Speaker 3: you feel about this rule change? And as a tenant, 318 00:14:43,653 --> 00:14:45,853 Speaker 3: how hard has it been to actually find a property 319 00:14:45,853 --> 00:14:47,813 Speaker 3: that allows you to bring your pooch with you. Oh, 320 00:14:47,813 --> 00:14:49,893 Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? Twenty two 321 00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:50,413 Speaker 3: past one? 322 00:14:51,453 --> 00:14:55,533 Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions, it's the make Asking. 323 00:14:55,173 --> 00:14:57,053 Speaker 10: Breakfast the Reserve Bank be a final cut? 324 00:14:57,093 --> 00:14:57,893 Speaker 2: Where are you at? 325 00:14:58,013 --> 00:15:00,213 Speaker 10: Because I still can't work out whether the banks are screwing? 326 00:15:00,213 --> 00:15:03,413 Speaker 10: It's the Monetary Policy Committee said margins for the retails 327 00:15:03,413 --> 00:15:04,573 Speaker 10: a back up, So. 328 00:15:04,893 --> 00:15:06,893 Speaker 11: I want us to watch that really closely. I made 329 00:15:06,933 --> 00:15:09,013 Speaker 11: that point a couple of weeks ago. We expect them 330 00:15:09,053 --> 00:15:11,253 Speaker 11: to be passing through those ocr cuts, so we get 331 00:15:11,253 --> 00:15:14,213 Speaker 11: the transmission out into retail rates as quickly as possible. 332 00:15:14,253 --> 00:15:17,373 Speaker 11: That should be instantaneous and not here. The second thing 333 00:15:17,453 --> 00:15:19,933 Speaker 11: is there are some amazing deals out there at the moment, 334 00:15:19,973 --> 00:15:21,813 Speaker 11: and if you're not happy with your bank, actually the 335 00:15:21,853 --> 00:15:23,293 Speaker 11: public should be shopping around them. 336 00:15:23,333 --> 00:15:25,653 Speaker 10: But are those deals about cash backs as opposed to 337 00:15:25,693 --> 00:15:26,453 Speaker 10: better interest rates? 338 00:15:26,613 --> 00:15:28,853 Speaker 11: Now there's actually variation and interest. 339 00:15:28,613 --> 00:15:31,693 Speaker 10: Rates back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast 340 00:15:31,733 --> 00:15:33,653 Speaker 10: with the Defendant News Talk ZB. 341 00:15:33,773 --> 00:15:36,293 Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. Here, it's twenty five pass one, so 342 00:15:36,373 --> 00:15:39,333 Speaker 3: actively that David Seymour says new pet born rules coming 343 00:15:39,333 --> 00:15:42,333 Speaker 3: into force today, deliver on an act promise to fix 344 00:15:42,493 --> 00:15:47,493 Speaker 3: a problem facing thousands of Kei we renters. David Seymour 345 00:15:47,813 --> 00:15:50,733 Speaker 3: is on the line right now. Very good afternoon to you, David. 346 00:15:51,653 --> 00:15:55,773 Speaker 2: Hey you, good afternoon. Now, David, how do you expect 347 00:15:55,773 --> 00:16:00,373 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Tribunal to interpret reasonable grounds in these cases? 348 00:16:01,533 --> 00:16:03,893 Speaker 12: Well, you've got to have a rent, and it's got 349 00:16:03,933 --> 00:16:05,733 Speaker 12: to be something that stacks up with a bit of 350 00:16:05,733 --> 00:16:08,573 Speaker 12: common sense. If, for example, it wasn't a part upon 351 00:16:08,653 --> 00:16:11,413 Speaker 12: block and there was someone right next door who was 352 00:16:11,533 --> 00:16:15,853 Speaker 12: really badly allergic to a pet, then you could maybe 353 00:16:15,933 --> 00:16:18,613 Speaker 12: understand that say okay, well, look, a reasonable person would 354 00:16:18,653 --> 00:16:22,493 Speaker 12: say that's not quite right. If it was a property that, 355 00:16:23,013 --> 00:16:27,213 Speaker 12: for example, had some sort of crazily sensitive carpet or 356 00:16:27,253 --> 00:16:29,853 Speaker 12: fittings or something that you know, you knew that even 357 00:16:30,133 --> 00:16:32,893 Speaker 12: the goodest boy ever was just going to mol and destroy, 358 00:16:33,773 --> 00:16:35,853 Speaker 12: then you know you might say that's reasonable. I'm not 359 00:16:36,013 --> 00:16:38,093 Speaker 12: trying to sort of make the law on ZD, but 360 00:16:38,453 --> 00:16:40,413 Speaker 12: you can kind of think, how, actually this is not 361 00:16:40,493 --> 00:16:43,373 Speaker 12: too hard. Key with are generally sensible people, and they'll 362 00:16:43,413 --> 00:16:44,293 Speaker 12: get to good results. 363 00:16:44,653 --> 00:16:48,453 Speaker 2: You talk about pets here. When we talk about pets, 364 00:16:48,493 --> 00:16:50,933 Speaker 2: is that what if someone says five cats, I've got 365 00:16:50,933 --> 00:16:52,093 Speaker 2: five cats, let's. 366 00:16:51,853 --> 00:16:55,893 Speaker 12: Go Yeah, Well that's exactly it. I mean, I've always 367 00:16:55,893 --> 00:16:59,053 Speaker 12: worried that your life would go on this trajectory, and 368 00:16:59,173 --> 00:17:01,613 Speaker 12: it seems that you going even faster than I'd fear it. 369 00:17:02,053 --> 00:17:05,573 Speaker 12: But look, I mean again, they're going to make a 370 00:17:05,653 --> 00:17:07,812 Speaker 12: judgment call. I think what's important is right now, the 371 00:17:07,813 --> 00:17:10,573 Speaker 12: status quoe is no. So if you talk to the 372 00:17:10,613 --> 00:17:12,973 Speaker 12: people up at pet Refuge, they take people in if 373 00:17:12,973 --> 00:17:15,333 Speaker 12: they're being abused and their pets are being blackmailed, you 374 00:17:15,373 --> 00:17:16,893 Speaker 12: know that they're going to hurt the pet to try 375 00:17:16,933 --> 00:17:17,853 Speaker 12: and control. 376 00:17:17,493 --> 00:17:18,812 Speaker 13: The victim of domestic abuse. 377 00:17:19,093 --> 00:17:20,933 Speaker 12: You know, these guys are jumping up and down about 378 00:17:20,973 --> 00:17:25,213 Speaker 12: this because they can see an exit plan for people 379 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:27,933 Speaker 12: who are victims of domestic abuse. If you look at 380 00:17:27,933 --> 00:17:30,532 Speaker 12: people who have pets, you know the tenants housing market's 381 00:17:30,533 --> 00:17:33,532 Speaker 12: still tough for younger people. They're really excited about this. 382 00:17:33,613 --> 00:17:37,133 Speaker 12: So what we're really doing is creating possibility. The government 383 00:17:37,253 --> 00:17:40,213 Speaker 12: is saying, look, here's a framework you can use to 384 00:17:40,293 --> 00:17:43,053 Speaker 12: take advantage of that possibility with Right now the default 385 00:17:43,133 --> 00:17:45,693 Speaker 12: is no for so many people, and that's a massive shift. 386 00:17:46,453 --> 00:17:49,133 Speaker 2: Now, of course, you can't force people to take on 387 00:17:49,173 --> 00:17:52,853 Speaker 2: a tenant, So how do you check that the person 388 00:17:53,013 --> 00:17:56,333 Speaker 2: is rejecting not rejecting. So basically, you've got two people. 389 00:17:56,733 --> 00:17:59,052 Speaker 2: One of them's got three cats, one of them's got 390 00:17:59,133 --> 00:18:01,253 Speaker 2: no cats. You, as a land or just happen to 391 00:18:01,253 --> 00:18:04,413 Speaker 2: pick the other person. You may be rejecting them because 392 00:18:04,413 --> 00:18:07,533 Speaker 2: of the cats. But how do you know, Yeah, you're right, 393 00:18:07,613 --> 00:18:09,693 Speaker 2: we're not here to forepeople. We're here to create win 394 00:18:09,773 --> 00:18:12,333 Speaker 2: wins that you know what we're all about. I just 395 00:18:12,813 --> 00:18:14,413 Speaker 2: you know, try and take a sony view of the 396 00:18:14,453 --> 00:18:15,133 Speaker 2: world generally. 397 00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:18,453 Speaker 12: But the thing about the two weeks bond that is 398 00:18:18,493 --> 00:18:20,853 Speaker 12: there to give an incentive and give the peace of mind. 399 00:18:20,933 --> 00:18:22,893 Speaker 12: So you know, you say, okay, look, I've always been 400 00:18:22,893 --> 00:18:24,853 Speaker 12: worried about this, but now I know I can take 401 00:18:24,893 --> 00:18:27,293 Speaker 12: two weeks, rent an additional bond for any damage a 402 00:18:27,373 --> 00:18:30,573 Speaker 12: pet might create and so, you know, any natural bias 403 00:18:30,613 --> 00:18:32,573 Speaker 12: that might be there, you kind of cancel that out. 404 00:18:33,653 --> 00:18:37,253 Speaker 3: There's been a couple of techs already, David, and granted 405 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:39,333 Speaker 3: it's just a text and there's no proof there, but 406 00:18:39,613 --> 00:18:42,413 Speaker 3: from Landlord saying because of this, they're going to get 407 00:18:42,453 --> 00:18:44,093 Speaker 3: out of the game, you think they're just hottier. 408 00:18:45,773 --> 00:18:50,013 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean that's crazy. You know, the amount of 409 00:18:50,093 --> 00:18:52,493 Speaker 12: damage that could potentially done is going to be covered 410 00:18:52,493 --> 00:18:55,493 Speaker 12: by the bond. The number of potential tenants that you can. 411 00:18:55,413 --> 00:18:55,973 Speaker 2: Have as great. 412 00:18:56,013 --> 00:18:58,052 Speaker 12: And I may be a bit biased, but you know, 413 00:18:58,333 --> 00:19:01,733 Speaker 12: I think on balance, people that are animal lovers are 414 00:19:01,813 --> 00:19:04,893 Speaker 12: generally good to humans as well, So you might be 415 00:19:04,933 --> 00:19:07,693 Speaker 12: opening up a whole market of really great tenants. 416 00:19:08,933 --> 00:19:13,573 Speaker 2: So in New Zealand, Now, should it be assumed that 417 00:19:13,653 --> 00:19:16,973 Speaker 2: this is the default, that allowing allowing a pet into 418 00:19:17,773 --> 00:19:19,613 Speaker 2: a rental is the default position. 419 00:19:21,173 --> 00:19:21,453 Speaker 9: Yep. 420 00:19:21,653 --> 00:19:23,213 Speaker 12: So if you've got if you've got your reasons, you 421 00:19:23,213 --> 00:19:24,973 Speaker 12: know to do it. At the end of the day, 422 00:19:25,053 --> 00:19:27,812 Speaker 12: if you don't want to accept someone who's an applicant, 423 00:19:27,853 --> 00:19:29,933 Speaker 12: you've got a whole lot of applicants, that's a busy market, 424 00:19:29,973 --> 00:19:31,653 Speaker 12: then you don't take the person you want to You've 425 00:19:31,853 --> 00:19:34,333 Speaker 12: You've got that right, absolutely. But what we've done is 426 00:19:34,373 --> 00:19:37,093 Speaker 12: we've opened up that possibility, and I think possibility is 427 00:19:37,093 --> 00:19:37,813 Speaker 12: a wonderful work. 428 00:19:38,453 --> 00:19:40,173 Speaker 2: All Right, thank you so much for your time. Now, 429 00:19:40,213 --> 00:19:41,533 Speaker 2: I will just push back a little bit on something 430 00:19:41,533 --> 00:19:43,013 Speaker 2: you said earlier. When I was a kid growing up 431 00:19:43,053 --> 00:19:45,413 Speaker 2: on the farm, we had five cats and so I'm 432 00:19:45,413 --> 00:19:47,693 Speaker 2: going the other way. I now have no cats explain 433 00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:50,493 Speaker 2: so much, Matt, I'm on the trajectory away from a 434 00:19:50,853 --> 00:19:51,973 Speaker 2: crazy old cat man. 435 00:19:52,373 --> 00:19:53,773 Speaker 3: You've just got one small world. 436 00:19:53,573 --> 00:19:57,893 Speaker 12: Now I'm look. I think everyone should just be pleased 437 00:19:57,893 --> 00:19:58,533 Speaker 12: and proud of. 438 00:19:58,493 --> 00:20:00,693 Speaker 13: Who they aren't. Don't let people judge or make you 439 00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:01,493 Speaker 13: feel small. 440 00:20:01,413 --> 00:20:04,173 Speaker 3: Beautifully said David. Hey. Really great, Dave Yon, thank you 441 00:20:04,213 --> 00:20:06,493 Speaker 3: so much for your time. We'll catch up again. So 442 00:20:06,613 --> 00:20:10,413 Speaker 3: that is Egg Party leader David Seymour and of course 443 00:20:10,413 --> 00:20:12,293 Speaker 3: taking your calls on this OZ eight hundred and eighty 444 00:20:12,453 --> 00:20:14,613 Speaker 3: ten eighty. So it was the party that made a 445 00:20:14,613 --> 00:20:17,013 Speaker 3: promise on this and I've got their wish as of today, 446 00:20:17,053 --> 00:20:19,813 Speaker 3: the pet pond comes into play. If you're a landlords, 447 00:20:19,893 --> 00:20:21,693 Speaker 3: are you worried about this? If you're a tenant, what 448 00:20:21,733 --> 00:20:24,813 Speaker 3: does this mean for you? Headlines with railing coming up, 449 00:20:25,653 --> 00:20:28,293 Speaker 3: beckon mo it is bang on one thirty. 450 00:20:30,213 --> 00:20:33,813 Speaker 14: Youth talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's 451 00:20:33,893 --> 00:20:37,733 Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble. Open bankings are reality 452 00:20:37,773 --> 00:20:41,053 Speaker 14: in New Zealand from today and our Australian owned banks 453 00:20:41,133 --> 00:20:44,373 Speaker 14: A and Z, ASB, B and Z and Westpac must 454 00:20:44,373 --> 00:20:48,213 Speaker 14: have systems in place. It'll let customers securely share financial 455 00:20:48,253 --> 00:20:52,973 Speaker 14: information with other parties to make payments and access personalized services. 456 00:20:53,853 --> 00:20:58,093 Speaker 14: Emergency Services and Kluther have been working to free seriously 457 00:20:58,133 --> 00:21:01,413 Speaker 14: injured man from a truck that werdoff co Rode north 458 00:21:01,453 --> 00:21:05,733 Speaker 14: of Bellcluther about eleven this morning, and State Highway five 459 00:21:06,013 --> 00:21:09,213 Speaker 14: is closed with detours between t H and the Ruta 460 00:21:09,293 --> 00:21:11,973 Speaker 14: Dua where flames from a crash car have spread to 461 00:21:12,093 --> 00:21:16,453 Speaker 14: vegetation near mad Adoa Road. A Swiss man will spend 462 00:21:16,533 --> 00:21:19,653 Speaker 14: Christmas in New Zealand ahead of sentencing in January for 463 00:21:19,773 --> 00:21:24,532 Speaker 14: careless driving causing death in Canterbury Sheffield. Last month, sixty 464 00:21:24,573 --> 00:21:28,173 Speaker 14: eight year old lenders Sally Douglas died, two others were injured. 465 00:21:29,053 --> 00:21:32,653 Speaker 14: Landlords must now let renters keep pets from today unless 466 00:21:32,693 --> 00:21:35,973 Speaker 14: they have reasonable grounds to prohibit them. The number of 467 00:21:36,013 --> 00:21:39,413 Speaker 14: new home consents is rising more than thirty five thousand 468 00:21:39,533 --> 00:21:45,053 Speaker 14: in a year ending October. Contradictory government ie allowing kiwisaver 469 00:21:45,213 --> 00:21:49,373 Speaker 14: withdrawals for farms as national tilts are lift in contributions 470 00:21:49,733 --> 00:21:52,533 Speaker 14: seemore at Ins and Herald Premium now back to Matte 471 00:21:52,613 --> 00:21:53,533 Speaker 14: Than Tyler Adams. 472 00:21:53,573 --> 00:21:55,413 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raileen so we're talking about the 473 00:21:55,453 --> 00:21:58,413 Speaker 3: new pet bond. It's in effect as of today. That 474 00:21:58,613 --> 00:22:00,773 Speaker 3: means that you can ask for up to two weeks 475 00:22:00,933 --> 00:22:03,293 Speaker 3: rent as a bond if you're a landlord, if you 476 00:22:03,333 --> 00:22:05,213 Speaker 3: allow someone to come into your property with a pooch 477 00:22:05,333 --> 00:22:06,213 Speaker 3: or a cat. 478 00:22:06,693 --> 00:22:09,413 Speaker 2: The stick, says Davidson, was point about partartments. Apartments as 479 00:22:09,453 --> 00:22:12,293 Speaker 2: pointless as unit titles. Properties on the whole have no 480 00:22:12,653 --> 00:22:15,693 Speaker 2: pet rules in the body corporates, So this would trump 481 00:22:15,773 --> 00:22:17,093 Speaker 2: the new tendancy rules. 482 00:22:17,373 --> 00:22:18,133 Speaker 15: Is that right? 483 00:22:18,653 --> 00:22:18,773 Speaker 9: Well? 484 00:22:18,773 --> 00:22:21,053 Speaker 3: I wonder I would have thought tenancy rules would override 485 00:22:21,093 --> 00:22:22,133 Speaker 3: body corporate rules. 486 00:22:22,453 --> 00:22:26,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, my townhouse, before I moved to this new house, 487 00:22:27,413 --> 00:22:28,253 Speaker 2: you allowed pets. 488 00:22:28,573 --> 00:22:28,773 Speaker 16: Yah. 489 00:22:29,373 --> 00:22:31,653 Speaker 3: I mean that would be interesting if anybody knows whether 490 00:22:31,693 --> 00:22:35,133 Speaker 3: the tenancy laws that are governed by central government would 491 00:22:35,173 --> 00:22:36,493 Speaker 3: override your body. 492 00:22:36,213 --> 00:22:38,773 Speaker 2: Call guys, this pet thing is a really a non starter. 493 00:22:38,893 --> 00:22:41,572 Speaker 2: It won't make any difference to landlords decisions are not 494 00:22:41,613 --> 00:22:43,653 Speaker 2: to allow pets. There is no obligation for landhold or 495 00:22:43,653 --> 00:22:46,373 Speaker 2: property manager to advise an applicant as to why they've 496 00:22:46,373 --> 00:22:49,493 Speaker 2: missed out on the property. The discrimination will continue. Chears Ian. 497 00:22:49,693 --> 00:22:55,493 Speaker 3: It's a fair point, Josh, how are you mates? We're 498 00:22:55,533 --> 00:22:59,373 Speaker 3: just having some problems with the phone. You stand by, Josh, 499 00:22:59,813 --> 00:23:03,053 Speaker 3: try that again. No, we're having some real issues. Get 500 00:23:03,053 --> 00:23:03,413 Speaker 3: a Josh. 501 00:23:05,533 --> 00:23:08,253 Speaker 2: My phone wasn't working. My phone clicker still not working. 502 00:23:09,053 --> 00:23:11,573 Speaker 15: Hey all good? Hey you ask, you pose the question 503 00:23:11,653 --> 00:23:16,653 Speaker 15: what is the perfect application? And I could say I 504 00:23:16,653 --> 00:23:19,693 Speaker 15: could profile that right now for if you'd like. It's 505 00:23:19,693 --> 00:23:25,373 Speaker 15: pretty straightforward. It's no debt, no pets, no kids, and 506 00:23:25,413 --> 00:23:30,013 Speaker 15: a professional working couple earning one hundred k plus each 507 00:23:31,053 --> 00:23:35,133 Speaker 15: a Year's that's what the perfect combination would be for 508 00:23:35,253 --> 00:23:37,413 Speaker 15: any rental application. 509 00:23:37,733 --> 00:23:42,733 Speaker 2: So no debts, no kids, professional working couple, and no 510 00:23:43,293 --> 00:23:46,053 Speaker 2: pets and no pets. 511 00:23:46,493 --> 00:23:49,173 Speaker 15: Yeah yeah, So like if you look at it like this, boys, 512 00:23:49,933 --> 00:23:54,333 Speaker 15: once you start adding those aspects to your application, you're retracting. 513 00:23:55,413 --> 00:23:58,532 Speaker 15: So the more of that you have, the harder it 514 00:23:58,613 --> 00:24:03,373 Speaker 15: is going to be to find a place. But I 515 00:24:03,493 --> 00:24:06,733 Speaker 15: learned this the hardware, and twenty twenty one we had 516 00:24:06,733 --> 00:24:10,013 Speaker 15: a ninety day no just had to find a new place. 517 00:24:10,253 --> 00:24:16,013 Speaker 15: Had two cats, two kids, applied for thirty five different places, 518 00:24:16,133 --> 00:24:19,573 Speaker 15: couldn't find one at all. And you know what, I 519 00:24:19,613 --> 00:24:22,973 Speaker 15: found a blemish on my credit rating at that point, 520 00:24:23,453 --> 00:24:29,133 Speaker 15: and that eliminated me from working with previous realist agents 521 00:24:29,173 --> 00:24:33,573 Speaker 15: who would work on my behalf, and they decided they 522 00:24:33,613 --> 00:24:38,493 Speaker 15: wouldn't because of that debt. But anyway, like that text 523 00:24:38,493 --> 00:24:42,773 Speaker 15: had just said, it's to the manual's discretion. You're not 524 00:24:42,973 --> 00:24:47,052 Speaker 15: going to be told reasons why you weren't going to 525 00:24:47,093 --> 00:24:49,693 Speaker 15: be taken further through the process. 526 00:24:49,893 --> 00:24:51,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the thing. 527 00:24:51,173 --> 00:24:55,373 Speaker 15: So it's just like employment, you know. So if you've 528 00:24:55,413 --> 00:24:58,573 Speaker 15: got one or two cats and you can afford off 529 00:24:58,613 --> 00:25:01,653 Speaker 15: of that bond, that might work in your favor. 530 00:25:02,253 --> 00:25:03,733 Speaker 17: However, that. 531 00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:07,893 Speaker 15: Realtor or landals not going to tell you why you 532 00:25:08,013 --> 00:25:09,573 Speaker 15: didn't get the property. 533 00:25:10,173 --> 00:25:11,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much for your call. Josh, what 534 00:25:11,893 --> 00:25:16,333 Speaker 2: about this though? Good person, good people yep, no debt, 535 00:25:16,573 --> 00:25:21,613 Speaker 2: no kids, yep, retire cashed up, retired couple. Oh no, pits. 536 00:25:21,933 --> 00:25:24,773 Speaker 2: Now we're talking. That is the unicorn, because look, I 537 00:25:24,773 --> 00:25:28,053 Speaker 2: don't want to profile people, but if you're sixty five, 538 00:25:28,853 --> 00:25:33,533 Speaker 2: maybe let's say your party list with less people rounder 539 00:25:33,573 --> 00:25:35,613 Speaker 2: the house when you're sixty five computer to twenty five? 540 00:25:35,693 --> 00:25:36,853 Speaker 2: I think would we all agree with that? 541 00:25:36,893 --> 00:25:38,413 Speaker 3: I know some wrong as sixty five year olds. 542 00:25:38,613 --> 00:25:41,213 Speaker 2: Absolutely, some people buck the trein. Yeah, some people party 543 00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:43,293 Speaker 2: very little in this twenty five and go hard on 544 00:25:43,293 --> 00:25:48,013 Speaker 2: this when there's sixty five. But genuinely, generally speaking, a retired, 545 00:25:48,373 --> 00:25:52,173 Speaker 2: cashed up couple with no DIBt who are also good 546 00:25:52,213 --> 00:25:54,253 Speaker 2: human beings and no pits, that's pretty pretty good. 547 00:25:54,253 --> 00:25:55,813 Speaker 3: Ten It sounds like a unicorn to me. Oh eight, 548 00:25:55,813 --> 00:25:59,013 Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 549 00:25:59,613 --> 00:26:01,532 Speaker 3: We'll take a quick break and next we'll have a 550 00:26:01,573 --> 00:26:04,973 Speaker 3: chat with Georgina, who reckons insurance should cover a lot 551 00:26:05,013 --> 00:26:06,973 Speaker 3: of damage that pits may or may not do. That's 552 00:26:07,013 --> 00:26:09,453 Speaker 3: coming up. It's twenty two one two. 553 00:26:10,733 --> 00:26:14,053 Speaker 1: Mad Heath Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls 554 00:26:14,133 --> 00:26:17,533 Speaker 1: on mad Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks. 555 00:26:17,573 --> 00:26:21,093 Speaker 3: The'd be afternoon to you. It is nineteen to two 556 00:26:21,133 --> 00:26:22,973 Speaker 3: and we're talking about the pet bond that comes into 557 00:26:23,013 --> 00:26:26,373 Speaker 3: effect from today. If you're a landlord, how do you 558 00:26:26,373 --> 00:26:28,813 Speaker 3: feel about this that you, unless you've got reasonable grounds, 559 00:26:28,893 --> 00:26:30,812 Speaker 3: cannot say no to someone who's got a pets as 560 00:26:30,813 --> 00:26:32,773 Speaker 3: long as they pay their two weeks bond O one 561 00:26:32,853 --> 00:26:34,013 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty. 562 00:26:33,853 --> 00:26:37,453 Speaker 2: And Itita says, hey, there, if this is the lord, sorry, 563 00:26:37,653 --> 00:26:40,653 Speaker 2: Anita says, hey there. If law says tenants can bring 564 00:26:40,693 --> 00:26:43,813 Speaker 2: pets can the landlord specify that these pets must stay outside. 565 00:26:45,133 --> 00:26:46,973 Speaker 2: Does the law state that the pets are allowed inside. 566 00:26:46,973 --> 00:26:49,173 Speaker 2: I have an apartment and would not be happy if 567 00:26:49,173 --> 00:26:53,213 Speaker 2: someone's dog and nextdoor apartment kept barking. This would reverberate 568 00:26:53,253 --> 00:26:55,573 Speaker 2: throughout the eight units in our complex. Thanks Anita, so 569 00:26:55,653 --> 00:26:56,293 Speaker 2: fair question. 570 00:26:56,973 --> 00:26:59,973 Speaker 3: Would have to look into the nitty gritty of the legislation. Georgina, 571 00:27:00,013 --> 00:27:01,493 Speaker 3: how are you hey? 572 00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:02,053 Speaker 18: Good news? 573 00:27:02,213 --> 00:27:04,853 Speaker 5: Good to quick these? I have to agree with David 574 00:27:04,853 --> 00:27:08,493 Speaker 5: and a couple of the other people. And when my 575 00:27:08,533 --> 00:27:12,013 Speaker 5: family was younger, and the daughters, I was more worried 576 00:27:12,053 --> 00:27:15,373 Speaker 5: about them missing the carpets or putting a hole or 577 00:27:15,453 --> 00:27:19,133 Speaker 5: ripping up the wallpaper on the walls than I was 578 00:27:19,173 --> 00:27:23,093 Speaker 5: actually with the cats. But I had household contents insurance, 579 00:27:23,133 --> 00:27:26,413 Speaker 5: and there's a clause in there that actually covers damages 580 00:27:26,453 --> 00:27:28,493 Speaker 5: that your pets may cause in the property. 581 00:27:29,453 --> 00:27:30,613 Speaker 3: Right, So I. 582 00:27:30,613 --> 00:27:32,933 Speaker 5: Just think that's just something food for thought for those 583 00:27:32,973 --> 00:27:36,693 Speaker 5: who do have household contents insurance just be yeah, that 584 00:27:37,853 --> 00:27:40,053 Speaker 5: covers them. So it's the same as if you have 585 00:27:40,053 --> 00:27:42,093 Speaker 5: a neighbor who's got a screaming baby on that song 586 00:27:42,093 --> 00:27:44,533 Speaker 5: when they's got colic, and I mean, it's not your fault. 587 00:27:44,413 --> 00:27:44,973 Speaker 19: Or their faults. 588 00:27:45,653 --> 00:27:47,333 Speaker 2: You'll know the answer to this, tyler. So you've got 589 00:27:47,373 --> 00:27:50,533 Speaker 2: your bond right yep. So currently four weeks bond and 590 00:27:50,573 --> 00:27:52,813 Speaker 2: there can be a potential extra two weeks bond for 591 00:27:52,933 --> 00:27:56,453 Speaker 2: pet bond. Now, yes, so if that goes over that, 592 00:27:57,493 --> 00:28:00,093 Speaker 2: can you claim insurance? If the damage by the tenants 593 00:28:00,133 --> 00:28:04,453 Speaker 2: goes over that amount, can you claim insurance or can 594 00:28:04,493 --> 00:28:06,653 Speaker 2: you claim insurance if it's under that I mat Can 595 00:28:06,653 --> 00:28:08,053 Speaker 2: you go straight to the insurance or does that the 596 00:28:08,093 --> 00:28:10,693 Speaker 2: bond and you have to go through the tendency tribunal first, 597 00:28:10,693 --> 00:28:11,933 Speaker 2: do you know, Georgiana. 598 00:28:12,453 --> 00:28:15,933 Speaker 5: You go through your you'll go through the insurance, so 599 00:28:16,173 --> 00:28:21,773 Speaker 5: you know, hey. 600 00:28:19,653 --> 00:28:21,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I think the way it would work is 601 00:28:22,053 --> 00:28:24,733 Speaker 3: with the normal bond is if they do damage in you, 602 00:28:24,893 --> 00:28:28,693 Speaker 3: it's covered under insurance, then you can charge them the excess. 603 00:28:28,853 --> 00:28:31,173 Speaker 3: So whatever that excess is, and that excess comes out 604 00:28:31,173 --> 00:28:32,572 Speaker 3: of the bond. So that would be the same thing 605 00:28:32,653 --> 00:28:33,773 Speaker 3: with the pit bond, I imagine. 606 00:28:33,813 --> 00:28:37,853 Speaker 2: Right, But surely the bond should pay all the damage 607 00:28:37,853 --> 00:28:40,013 Speaker 2: off before you go anywhere near the insurance company, right, 608 00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:42,573 Speaker 2: you'd think so, So if you've got four weeks bond 609 00:28:42,813 --> 00:28:45,613 Speaker 2: and they do an equivalent amount of damage, Well, let's 610 00:28:45,613 --> 00:28:48,373 Speaker 2: say a third of let's say that three quarters the 611 00:28:48,413 --> 00:28:52,253 Speaker 2: amount of damage of the bond and value. Then all 612 00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:53,733 Speaker 2: that should be paid off and then they get the 613 00:28:53,773 --> 00:28:56,693 Speaker 2: remainder of the bond before you even troubling the insurance company. 614 00:28:56,773 --> 00:28:59,173 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, but that's when you're in no man's land. 615 00:28:59,173 --> 00:29:01,133 Speaker 3: That if the insurance won't cover it, because it's not 616 00:29:01,453 --> 00:29:04,013 Speaker 3: and you have to have rental insurance before you can 617 00:29:04,013 --> 00:29:05,933 Speaker 3: tend and out of place, it's part of the rules. 618 00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:09,813 Speaker 3: But if the insurance doesn't it in the bond's not enough, 619 00:29:09,893 --> 00:29:10,493 Speaker 3: then you buget. 620 00:29:10,653 --> 00:29:14,533 Speaker 2: You think if you call Georgina Bill, you're a landlord. 621 00:29:15,733 --> 00:29:19,813 Speaker 20: Yes, yes, I had. I find it very interesting because 622 00:29:21,253 --> 00:29:23,413 Speaker 20: I had a tenant to us. Can I have a 623 00:29:23,413 --> 00:29:25,893 Speaker 20: pet brabbit? And I thought, yeah, you'd have a pet brebbit. 624 00:29:25,973 --> 00:29:29,893 Speaker 20: Don't bother me anyway. They moved out thirty five thousand 625 00:29:29,893 --> 00:29:30,933 Speaker 20: dollars in damage. 626 00:29:31,293 --> 00:29:33,733 Speaker 2: Oh what was the damage? 627 00:29:34,893 --> 00:29:35,213 Speaker 18: Uh? 628 00:29:35,453 --> 00:29:37,733 Speaker 20: Part of my pipe, but pete everywhere? 629 00:29:37,933 --> 00:29:41,573 Speaker 2: Ah right, right, And because it wasn't. 630 00:29:41,373 --> 00:29:44,333 Speaker 20: Kept in a cage, all the carpets had to come 631 00:29:44,373 --> 00:29:50,933 Speaker 20: out on the walls were damaged and it gets into 632 00:29:51,653 --> 00:29:55,213 Speaker 20: the timber flooring, right and. 633 00:29:56,773 --> 00:29:59,733 Speaker 2: Right, what's that did ignore the floors. 634 00:30:00,813 --> 00:30:03,613 Speaker 20: No, no, no, no, just pete, oh right right right? 635 00:30:04,453 --> 00:30:06,733 Speaker 2: And did you have did you have a backyard? Because 636 00:30:06,773 --> 00:30:08,853 Speaker 2: I mentioned another thing a rabbit could do is you know, 637 00:30:08,973 --> 00:30:11,853 Speaker 2: dig burrows that go under your foundations, and that's a 638 00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:12,813 Speaker 2: potential problem as well. 639 00:30:12,893 --> 00:30:17,053 Speaker 20: Right, Yeah, it was an inside rabbit. Yeah, it was 640 00:30:17,133 --> 00:30:21,373 Speaker 20: inside and it ended up at eight parts of the carpet. 641 00:30:21,453 --> 00:30:24,893 Speaker 20: But you can't. I used some of that webs to 642 00:30:24,973 --> 00:30:28,773 Speaker 20: get pong gone. That didn't work. They ended up having 643 00:30:28,853 --> 00:30:33,413 Speaker 20: to get the floors sanded and repollophened, collar europane to 644 00:30:33,573 --> 00:30:37,613 Speaker 20: lock the smell in. Could not get you cannot get 645 00:30:37,973 --> 00:30:40,093 Speaker 20: so cats and dogs and nothing compared to. 646 00:30:40,693 --> 00:30:43,453 Speaker 3: Sounds like it. Did you know that the rabbit was 647 00:30:43,453 --> 00:30:44,733 Speaker 3: going to round peen everywhere? 648 00:30:45,853 --> 00:30:46,333 Speaker 20: What was that? 649 00:30:46,493 --> 00:30:48,653 Speaker 3: Did you know that they had those little rabbit indoors 650 00:30:48,693 --> 00:30:50,533 Speaker 3: that was running around pen everywhere? 651 00:30:51,533 --> 00:30:53,813 Speaker 20: They asked me if they could have a rabbit? I said, yeah, 652 00:30:54,213 --> 00:30:57,773 Speaker 20: I never in my wildest dreams did I think that 653 00:30:57,853 --> 00:30:59,813 Speaker 20: a rabbit would do all that damage. 654 00:30:59,453 --> 00:31:00,413 Speaker 17: Because you don't do it? 655 00:31:01,453 --> 00:31:03,333 Speaker 2: Was that how much did you say? Would you say that? 656 00:31:03,933 --> 00:31:04,293 Speaker 2: How much? 657 00:31:04,373 --> 00:31:07,253 Speaker 20: Was it thirty five thousand? It cost me? 658 00:31:07,493 --> 00:31:08,253 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 659 00:31:08,573 --> 00:31:09,573 Speaker 3: So what did you have to do? Did you have 660 00:31:09,573 --> 00:31:11,933 Speaker 3: to wrap up all the floors, All. 661 00:31:11,733 --> 00:31:15,013 Speaker 20: The flooring had to come up, All the wallpaper had 662 00:31:15,053 --> 00:31:18,253 Speaker 20: to come off the walls, the carpet was the carpet 663 00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:20,813 Speaker 20: was only a few months old. I had to get 664 00:31:20,813 --> 00:31:26,333 Speaker 20: it resanded, had to get a polyurapaned and I basically 665 00:31:27,213 --> 00:31:28,973 Speaker 20: the whole unit had to be done up and in 666 00:31:29,053 --> 00:31:33,173 Speaker 20: that time and that money. I'm talking about the flat 667 00:31:33,213 --> 00:31:36,213 Speaker 20: being empty as well, so the flat was unoccupied for 668 00:31:36,293 --> 00:31:36,973 Speaker 20: quite a while. 669 00:31:37,573 --> 00:31:39,693 Speaker 2: Did you take this to the Tennessee Tribunal Bill. 670 00:31:40,453 --> 00:31:42,573 Speaker 20: No, I have a policy. I don't bother with them, 671 00:31:42,613 --> 00:31:44,053 Speaker 20: but I consider them clowns. 672 00:31:45,373 --> 00:31:47,253 Speaker 3: It's a strong policy. But maybe. 673 00:31:48,893 --> 00:31:51,253 Speaker 20: I just wrote it off. I mean, I gave the 674 00:31:51,293 --> 00:31:54,133 Speaker 20: people permission to have a rabbit. I never, in my 675 00:31:54,413 --> 00:31:58,093 Speaker 20: wildest dreams, thought that a rabbit would do all that damage. 676 00:31:58,213 --> 00:31:59,653 Speaker 2: But the thing is that you can give someone a 677 00:31:59,653 --> 00:32:01,693 Speaker 2: permission of a rabbit, but no one thinks that the 678 00:32:01,773 --> 00:32:04,813 Speaker 2: rabbit would be just free range around the house, winging 679 00:32:04,853 --> 00:32:07,293 Speaker 2: in every corner. You know, you know what I'm saying. Like, 680 00:32:07,293 --> 00:32:10,013 Speaker 2: when you said rabbit, I imagine you thought it would 681 00:32:10,053 --> 00:32:11,053 Speaker 2: be in a cage. 682 00:32:12,133 --> 00:32:14,693 Speaker 20: Yeah, no, it was free range. I'll tell you what 683 00:32:15,093 --> 00:32:17,493 Speaker 20: I don't. I don't know how they lived in the 684 00:32:17,573 --> 00:32:22,773 Speaker 20: house because when they moved out they weren't there that well, 685 00:32:22,853 --> 00:32:25,853 Speaker 20: but when they moved out you could smell the house 686 00:32:25,893 --> 00:32:27,613 Speaker 20: from the other side of the driveway. 687 00:32:27,693 --> 00:32:30,493 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wow, they must have loved rabbits. 688 00:32:30,533 --> 00:32:31,813 Speaker 2: Well, sorry to hear that bill. 689 00:32:31,693 --> 00:32:34,493 Speaker 3: Hurricane rabbit. Thirty five thousand dollars worth of damage. That 690 00:32:34,613 --> 00:32:35,133 Speaker 3: is unreal. 691 00:32:35,173 --> 00:32:38,053 Speaker 2: Well, that's not that's more than two weeks bond, doesn't. 692 00:32:37,853 --> 00:32:40,773 Speaker 3: It certainly is. Yeah, if you get an application and 693 00:32:40,813 --> 00:32:42,813 Speaker 3: they say we want a rabbit, just question the free 694 00:32:42,893 --> 00:32:44,773 Speaker 3: range nature of that. Oh eight, one hundred and eighty 695 00:32:44,933 --> 00:32:48,213 Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call, Georgie. How are 696 00:32:48,253 --> 00:32:49,613 Speaker 3: you hello? 697 00:32:49,813 --> 00:32:50,053 Speaker 18: Good? 698 00:32:50,093 --> 00:32:52,893 Speaker 19: Thanks? That sounds fun, doesn't that? 699 00:32:53,213 --> 00:32:53,733 Speaker 4: Yeah? Does it? 700 00:32:53,773 --> 00:32:54,973 Speaker 3: What free range rabbit? 701 00:32:57,613 --> 00:32:59,173 Speaker 19: I think it's unfit to. 702 00:33:00,893 --> 00:33:04,733 Speaker 3: A You're going to unfit the landlords? 703 00:33:05,253 --> 00:33:06,573 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I do. 704 00:33:07,013 --> 00:33:10,413 Speaker 19: I think if you have a U or a property, 705 00:33:10,853 --> 00:33:13,733 Speaker 19: you have the right to decide. It's not fair that 706 00:33:13,813 --> 00:33:16,213 Speaker 19: they say you have to take people with. 707 00:33:16,213 --> 00:33:20,253 Speaker 2: Pets within reasonable grounds. 708 00:33:21,253 --> 00:33:24,493 Speaker 19: Yeah I know, But what sort of things would you 709 00:33:24,933 --> 00:33:29,333 Speaker 19: have the legal right to say no to? That's the 710 00:33:29,453 --> 00:33:30,413 Speaker 19: thing this is. 711 00:33:31,093 --> 00:33:33,493 Speaker 9: I think it's terrible. I think it's all well, I. 712 00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:35,413 Speaker 3: Think there's still some elements there. You can say no. 713 00:33:35,453 --> 00:33:37,693 Speaker 3: If it's a pet owner with bad credits, then obviously 714 00:33:37,733 --> 00:33:40,253 Speaker 3: you can say, look, you've got a bad credit history. 715 00:33:40,693 --> 00:33:42,613 Speaker 3: And it's not really about the pets. It's more the 716 00:33:42,613 --> 00:33:44,693 Speaker 3: fact I don't trust you can pay your rent every week, 717 00:33:45,053 --> 00:33:47,053 Speaker 3: but I don't know, Georgie, because then there'd be people 718 00:33:47,053 --> 00:33:49,293 Speaker 3: to say, I'm not really fond of having kids in 719 00:33:49,333 --> 00:33:51,973 Speaker 3: my rental property because they do so much damage. But 720 00:33:52,293 --> 00:33:54,653 Speaker 3: you can't do that because clearly kids need a place 721 00:33:54,693 --> 00:33:57,893 Speaker 3: to live. And from my opinion, I think we should 722 00:33:58,293 --> 00:34:01,493 Speaker 3: celebrate those who have got pets and if this allows 723 00:34:01,533 --> 00:34:04,533 Speaker 3: them a little bit, you know, easier access to a rental, 724 00:34:04,573 --> 00:34:05,973 Speaker 3: as long as that good and I've got a good 725 00:34:06,053 --> 00:34:08,133 Speaker 3: history and all the rest of it. Most landlords would 726 00:34:08,133 --> 00:34:09,213 Speaker 3: say anyway, when. 727 00:34:09,093 --> 00:34:12,093 Speaker 19: They that's the thing, there will be a lot of 728 00:34:12,172 --> 00:34:15,493 Speaker 19: landlords who are okay with it, so they shouldn't make 729 00:34:15,533 --> 00:34:19,973 Speaker 19: it compulsory. Like the lady who rang you earlier and 730 00:34:20,013 --> 00:34:23,053 Speaker 19: said she's a pet lover and she wants to have 731 00:34:23,653 --> 00:34:27,813 Speaker 19: people with animals like you did, Dylae, so that I 732 00:34:28,133 --> 00:34:31,693 Speaker 19: think it's not good because when my kids let this 733 00:34:31,853 --> 00:34:34,933 Speaker 19: place out because they didn't think my house would sell 734 00:34:34,973 --> 00:34:40,493 Speaker 19: as quickly as it did. They said no pets, and 735 00:34:40,533 --> 00:34:43,373 Speaker 19: they were thinking about no kids. But one of the 736 00:34:43,773 --> 00:34:48,813 Speaker 19: couple actually had a child at sometimes, so that was okay. 737 00:34:49,773 --> 00:34:54,853 Speaker 19: But there's a downside to this, mind you. I would 738 00:34:54,933 --> 00:34:59,853 Speaker 19: look for a holiday accommodation with no pets that had 739 00:35:00,133 --> 00:35:03,693 Speaker 19: you know, no pets allowed, thank you very much, because 740 00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:10,053 Speaker 19: because people let their pets, it's eat off their own 741 00:35:10,253 --> 00:35:11,973 Speaker 19: plates and all less rubbish. 742 00:35:12,253 --> 00:35:15,093 Speaker 2: Some of them do. They I've never met like some people. 743 00:35:15,133 --> 00:35:16,893 Speaker 2: Some people kiss their dogs on their mouths as well. 744 00:35:16,933 --> 00:35:19,573 Speaker 2: There'd be reasonable grounds for me not allowing someone to 745 00:35:19,573 --> 00:35:21,333 Speaker 2: move into a property that I was renting out if 746 00:35:21,973 --> 00:35:23,373 Speaker 2: I saw them pashing their dog. 747 00:35:23,493 --> 00:35:24,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty fair a way. 748 00:35:24,693 --> 00:35:27,813 Speaker 2: I guess reasonable grounds would be the property is unsuitable 749 00:35:27,853 --> 00:35:35,692 Speaker 2: for pits, it's not fenced, all shared spaces, fragile surfaces, yep, 750 00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,493 Speaker 2: I know, maybe the body corp. If the body corp 751 00:35:38,173 --> 00:35:43,133 Speaker 2: prevents them. Yeah, safety risk, there's a safety risk. I'm 752 00:35:43,173 --> 00:35:44,413 Speaker 2: just trying to think of one's off the top of 753 00:35:44,453 --> 00:35:49,533 Speaker 2: my head. I don't know. Over crowding too many animals, Yeah, 754 00:35:49,573 --> 00:35:51,693 Speaker 2: so you know, insurance restrictions, I don't know. 755 00:35:51,733 --> 00:35:53,533 Speaker 3: There's a few out there if it is reasonable, but 756 00:35:53,613 --> 00:35:55,812 Speaker 3: keen on your view. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 757 00:35:55,893 --> 00:35:57,613 Speaker 3: is that number to call? It is nine to two. 758 00:35:59,093 --> 00:36:03,493 Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty. 759 00:36:03,573 --> 00:36:06,413 Speaker 1: It's mad Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news. 760 00:36:06,453 --> 00:36:10,453 Speaker 3: Dogs'd be stalks there be. It is six to two. 761 00:36:10,453 --> 00:36:12,933 Speaker 3: We're talking about the pet bond. It is an effect 762 00:36:12,973 --> 00:36:14,893 Speaker 3: as of today, So how are they going to affect 763 00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:17,652 Speaker 3: you as a landlord? As a tenant? Nine two ninety 764 00:36:17,653 --> 00:36:22,093 Speaker 3: two is that text number? Tim? What's your thoughts? 765 00:36:22,533 --> 00:36:22,853 Speaker 5: Hello? 766 00:36:22,973 --> 00:36:23,853 Speaker 16: How are you doing today? 767 00:36:24,053 --> 00:36:24,573 Speaker 3: Very well? 768 00:36:25,333 --> 00:36:29,373 Speaker 16: One quick question I'm sorry. One quick tip I can 769 00:36:29,373 --> 00:36:32,133 Speaker 16: give you about the Christmas tree. Yep, by it at 770 00:36:32,133 --> 00:36:35,133 Speaker 16: the end of the first week, and make sure that 771 00:36:35,173 --> 00:36:37,973 Speaker 16: you have a clean cut on the base of the tree. 772 00:36:38,213 --> 00:36:38,493 Speaker 3: Right. 773 00:36:38,693 --> 00:36:42,093 Speaker 16: Put it into your bucket and make sure you put water. 774 00:36:42,573 --> 00:36:45,692 Speaker 16: Give it two thirds of whatever the containers of water 775 00:36:45,773 --> 00:36:48,893 Speaker 16: with about or a cup of sugar. Dissolve the sugar. 776 00:36:48,973 --> 00:36:51,173 Speaker 16: Pour it in there. It'll drink it up for the 777 00:36:51,173 --> 00:36:53,133 Speaker 16: first three or four days. Make sure you top it 778 00:36:53,213 --> 00:36:56,253 Speaker 16: up that tree or last until twelve days after Christmas? 779 00:36:56,453 --> 00:36:58,893 Speaker 2: Right, so when you say about December seven, you get 780 00:36:58,933 --> 00:36:59,652 Speaker 2: that you do that. 781 00:37:00,813 --> 00:37:03,453 Speaker 16: Well, yeah, yes, people to put water it. 782 00:37:03,853 --> 00:37:06,853 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you say when you say 783 00:37:06,853 --> 00:37:08,733 Speaker 2: a clean cut, what do you mean by a clean cat? 784 00:37:09,733 --> 00:37:15,333 Speaker 16: Well, if it's been standing there for three days, I 785 00:37:15,373 --> 00:37:17,293 Speaker 16: want you to take an inch off the bottom of it. 786 00:37:17,493 --> 00:37:20,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what, I see what it's saying there. 787 00:37:22,253 --> 00:37:24,013 Speaker 16: Would cover it up and I won't want to draw 788 00:37:24,093 --> 00:37:24,853 Speaker 16: water itself. 789 00:37:24,973 --> 00:37:26,133 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for that. 790 00:37:26,933 --> 00:37:34,333 Speaker 16: But on the other topic, football and pets are a 791 00:37:34,413 --> 00:37:38,813 Speaker 16: major problem. I have a strong allergy to dogs in 792 00:37:38,853 --> 00:37:41,973 Speaker 16: any way, shake or forth, but cats are just as bad. 793 00:37:42,213 --> 00:37:45,293 Speaker 16: I had a tenant that was actually electra on the 794 00:37:45,333 --> 00:37:48,292 Speaker 16: real estate. We won't go into that, and every time 795 00:37:48,293 --> 00:37:51,853 Speaker 16: you did an inspection it was fine, and she that 796 00:37:51,973 --> 00:37:55,653 Speaker 16: personested the cats from me. And then after about five 797 00:37:55,773 --> 00:37:58,773 Speaker 16: years I had started having couple with the switches in 798 00:37:58,853 --> 00:38:02,093 Speaker 16: the wall. And the trouble was that the cats who 799 00:38:02,093 --> 00:38:04,293 Speaker 16: were throwing the litter under the house, the cat your liver, 800 00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:06,973 Speaker 16: and then all the ants come and they caught them up, 801 00:38:06,973 --> 00:38:08,453 Speaker 16: and in the winter they'd like to go to the 802 00:38:08,453 --> 00:38:10,373 Speaker 16: switches were slice and warm and they eat. 803 00:38:10,173 --> 00:38:10,573 Speaker 6: It all up. 804 00:38:10,613 --> 00:38:12,373 Speaker 16: When you end up having fires in the wall. 805 00:38:12,573 --> 00:38:15,692 Speaker 3: Right, I mean there's a bit grubby checking the cat 806 00:38:15,773 --> 00:38:16,573 Speaker 3: letter under the house. 807 00:38:17,293 --> 00:38:18,773 Speaker 16: Well, how do you control it? 808 00:38:19,253 --> 00:38:21,813 Speaker 3: M Yeah, well most people have put it in the bed. 809 00:38:22,413 --> 00:38:26,252 Speaker 16: Yeah, well I don't know, but the cats are always outside. 810 00:38:26,693 --> 00:38:28,573 Speaker 16: They were running around at night. Of course, the bits 811 00:38:28,573 --> 00:38:31,573 Speaker 16: and pieces, but that crossed thousands to get rid of that. 812 00:38:32,133 --> 00:38:32,333 Speaker 3: Yeah. 813 00:38:32,653 --> 00:38:35,893 Speaker 16: Of course two weeks bonders a waste of time because 814 00:38:35,933 --> 00:38:37,453 Speaker 16: you have to get all that picks. You have to 815 00:38:37,453 --> 00:38:39,693 Speaker 16: find the people to fix it. You won't get the 816 00:38:39,733 --> 00:38:42,413 Speaker 16: electrician immediately, you won't get the painters, you won't get 817 00:38:42,413 --> 00:38:45,693 Speaker 16: all that good stuff immediately, and then you've lost and 818 00:38:45,813 --> 00:38:48,733 Speaker 16: come at the time. So if they can afford to 819 00:38:48,773 --> 00:38:50,613 Speaker 16: have a bunch of tips, maybe they could afford to 820 00:38:50,613 --> 00:38:52,692 Speaker 16: save and come through the positive play. 821 00:38:52,853 --> 00:38:56,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, thank you very much. Term appreciate your call. 822 00:38:56,533 --> 00:38:59,373 Speaker 2: Yeah, well everyone has pets. A lot of people have pets, 823 00:38:59,373 --> 00:39:02,253 Speaker 2: even renters as well. Yeah, the question really is what 824 00:39:02,413 --> 00:39:05,053 Speaker 2: is reasonable grounds and can you trust the Tennessee Druyunal 825 00:39:05,133 --> 00:39:06,573 Speaker 2: to judicate that feeling. 826 00:39:06,773 --> 00:39:08,692 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's going to be interesting going forward. Well, thank 827 00:39:08,733 --> 00:39:11,413 Speaker 3: you very much. Enjoyed that discussion. Coming up after two 828 00:39:11,453 --> 00:39:13,853 Speaker 3: o'clock hunting, how's it going out. 829 00:39:13,693 --> 00:39:18,533 Speaker 1: There talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen, Taylor 830 00:39:18,573 --> 00:39:20,853 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News Talks. 831 00:39:20,893 --> 00:39:24,772 Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon to you. Welcome back into 832 00:39:24,813 --> 00:39:27,652 Speaker 3: the program. It is six past two, so this hour 833 00:39:27,733 --> 00:39:29,893 Speaker 3: we want to have a chat about hunting. This was 834 00:39:29,933 --> 00:39:33,053 Speaker 3: after a sad report from the coroner released today. The 835 00:39:33,093 --> 00:39:35,453 Speaker 3: needed woman who died on a hunting trip was fatally 836 00:39:35,493 --> 00:39:39,373 Speaker 3: injured when she accidentally shot herself after slipping on a steep, 837 00:39:39,693 --> 00:39:43,293 Speaker 3: slippery ground. So in the findings released today, Corona mary 838 00:39:43,333 --> 00:39:46,533 Speaker 3: Ann Borrowdale determined that forty eight year old Katrina Ainsley 839 00:39:47,093 --> 00:39:49,773 Speaker 3: died when that rifle discharged while she was alone in 840 00:39:49,853 --> 00:39:54,173 Speaker 3: dense beech forest in the Blue Mountains Conservation area near Beaumont, 841 00:39:54,373 --> 00:39:59,613 Speaker 3: in Otago. Desperately, desperately sad situation. But we're keen to 842 00:39:59,653 --> 00:40:02,093 Speaker 3: hear from you. If you are into hunting or you 843 00:40:02,133 --> 00:40:04,293 Speaker 3: get out regularly to hunt. How is it out there 844 00:40:04,333 --> 00:40:06,093 Speaker 3: when it comes to keeping yourself safe? 845 00:40:07,053 --> 00:40:10,093 Speaker 2: Yeah? What is it like at there? Are things getting safer? 846 00:40:10,133 --> 00:40:12,853 Speaker 2: Are people following the rules out there? Do the rules 847 00:40:12,853 --> 00:40:15,973 Speaker 2: make sense? What are the basics rules that every hunter 848 00:40:16,013 --> 00:40:20,133 Speaker 2: should follow as well? Not just the legal requirements but 849 00:40:20,173 --> 00:40:24,493 Speaker 2: also the common sense. I read this fantastic book by 850 00:40:24,573 --> 00:40:28,172 Speaker 2: a guy called Sam Gibson, called Sam the Trapman, and 851 00:40:28,253 --> 00:40:30,253 Speaker 2: he's a guy that's hunted all over New Zealand. He 852 00:40:30,293 --> 00:40:32,573 Speaker 2: used to work for DOC but he's done a lot 853 00:40:32,573 --> 00:40:35,853 Speaker 2: of great work and conservation, but is out there hunting 854 00:40:35,853 --> 00:40:38,293 Speaker 2: a lot, hunting deer, a lot, but a pig hunting. 855 00:40:38,453 --> 00:40:42,053 Speaker 2: Nice But in the book there's three different occasions where 856 00:40:42,213 --> 00:40:45,813 Speaker 2: bullets have whistled past his head and he's following all 857 00:40:45,853 --> 00:40:50,053 Speaker 2: the rules. Yeah, and he's a very experienced hunter, but 858 00:40:50,733 --> 00:40:54,013 Speaker 2: still still he's been shot at a number of times. 859 00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:54,893 Speaker 3: That is terrifying. 860 00:40:55,013 --> 00:40:56,533 Speaker 2: He's been shot out a number of times. But these 861 00:40:56,533 --> 00:40:59,853 Speaker 2: are just the times he outlines in his book where 862 00:40:59,693 --> 00:41:02,692 Speaker 2: the bullets just literally whistled past him and missed him, 863 00:41:03,533 --> 00:41:04,253 Speaker 2: just missed him, you know. 864 00:41:04,693 --> 00:41:06,493 Speaker 3: And what did he do with that situation? I suppose, 865 00:41:06,533 --> 00:41:08,292 Speaker 3: what can you do but yell out that I'm here 866 00:41:08,813 --> 00:41:11,293 Speaker 3: if you're hunting in the area. But I mean, if 867 00:41:11,293 --> 00:41:12,692 Speaker 3: they're far enough away. 868 00:41:12,573 --> 00:41:16,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, hit the deck. Yeah, you know, I don't know. 869 00:41:17,013 --> 00:41:18,652 Speaker 3: It's quite a terrified situation to be. 870 00:41:18,693 --> 00:41:20,333 Speaker 2: Well, what annoyed him? If you get a chance to 871 00:41:20,373 --> 00:41:21,933 Speaker 2: read this book, it's great, it's you know, it's a 872 00:41:21,973 --> 00:41:25,493 Speaker 2: serious stories from his life and hunting. But you know 873 00:41:26,013 --> 00:41:28,453 Speaker 2: what got him is that the people just scurried off. 874 00:41:28,493 --> 00:41:31,253 Speaker 2: They didn't stick around and say sorry. You know, he 875 00:41:31,373 --> 00:41:33,413 Speaker 2: yelled out. They realized what they've done, and then they 876 00:41:33,493 --> 00:41:38,053 Speaker 2: just scarp it. Yeah right, instead of going on you okay, sorry, 877 00:41:38,533 --> 00:41:39,893 Speaker 2: I don't know what I was doing, you know, they 878 00:41:40,093 --> 00:41:41,013 Speaker 2: cowardly run off. 879 00:41:41,133 --> 00:41:43,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, unfortunate. Oh one hundred and eighty, ten eighty. If 880 00:41:43,533 --> 00:41:45,652 Speaker 3: you are a hunter, love to hear from you. How 881 00:41:45,733 --> 00:41:47,613 Speaker 3: is it out there when you do go on hunting trips? 882 00:41:47,613 --> 00:41:50,333 Speaker 3: If you had any near misses? Nine two ninety two 883 00:41:50,613 --> 00:41:52,133 Speaker 3: is the text number as well. 884 00:41:52,213 --> 00:41:53,693 Speaker 2: I mean to be fair, this isn't this is a 885 00:41:53,693 --> 00:41:57,813 Speaker 2: different situation. That's that's kicking off this conversation. This was 886 00:41:57,933 --> 00:41:58,973 Speaker 2: just a terrible accident. 887 00:41:59,133 --> 00:42:00,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, afternoon. 888 00:42:00,853 --> 00:42:03,653 Speaker 2: Lad's been hunting on my life unfortunately, never had any accidents. 889 00:42:03,653 --> 00:42:05,893 Speaker 2: It's a very important to always be aware and one 890 00:42:05,933 --> 00:42:07,933 Speaker 2: hundred percent certain of anything you do. I believe all 891 00:42:07,973 --> 00:42:11,053 Speaker 2: children be taught the seven rules, as most people will 892 00:42:11,093 --> 00:42:13,853 Speaker 2: be exposed to firearms at some point in their life. 893 00:42:13,933 --> 00:42:16,173 Speaker 3: Cheers, Nat, Yeah, good text. Keep those coming through A 894 00:42:16,253 --> 00:42:18,213 Speaker 3: nine to nine two, but keen to hear from you 895 00:42:18,253 --> 00:42:20,373 Speaker 3: if you are a hunter? Oh wait, one hundred eighty 896 00:42:20,493 --> 00:42:24,013 Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? It is ten 897 00:42:24,133 --> 00:42:25,933 Speaker 3: past two. Back very surely here. 898 00:42:25,813 --> 00:42:28,613 Speaker 2: On News Talks EDB, and I'll share the seven Rules 899 00:42:28,613 --> 00:42:29,453 Speaker 2: of Firearms Safety. 900 00:42:29,533 --> 00:42:34,693 Speaker 1: Next as well your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen 901 00:42:34,813 --> 00:42:38,493 Speaker 1: Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty 902 00:42:38,613 --> 00:42:39,613 Speaker 1: News Talks. 903 00:42:39,373 --> 00:42:43,093 Speaker 3: EDB, News Talks. There be It is twelve past two 904 00:42:43,093 --> 00:42:45,093 Speaker 3: and we're talking about hunting. If you are a hunter, 905 00:42:45,173 --> 00:42:46,813 Speaker 3: what is it like out there? How do you keep 906 00:42:46,813 --> 00:42:47,573 Speaker 3: yourself safe? 907 00:42:47,613 --> 00:42:47,693 Speaker 9: Oh? 908 00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:50,773 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 909 00:42:51,013 --> 00:42:54,573 Speaker 2: So the seven here we go. Sorry, This is from 910 00:42:54,693 --> 00:42:59,732 Speaker 2: the seven Rules of Firearms Safety. This is from the 911 00:43:00,293 --> 00:43:04,813 Speaker 2: New Zealand Deer Stalkers Association. Rule one. Treat every firearm 912 00:43:04,853 --> 00:43:08,573 Speaker 2: as loaded. Rule two. Always point firearms and a safetyrection. 913 00:43:09,413 --> 00:43:12,493 Speaker 2: Rule three. Chamber of cartridge only when ready to fire. 914 00:43:12,933 --> 00:43:13,373 Speaker 3: Rule four. 915 00:43:13,453 --> 00:43:16,933 Speaker 2: Identify your target beyond all doubt. Rule five, check your 916 00:43:16,973 --> 00:43:21,813 Speaker 2: firing zone. Rule six, Store and transport firearms and ammunition safely. 917 00:43:22,133 --> 00:43:26,053 Speaker 2: Rull seven. Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms. 918 00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:30,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, eighteen eighty is the number to call. John. You 919 00:43:30,253 --> 00:43:33,533 Speaker 3: were just out hunting yesterday. Is that right? 920 00:43:35,173 --> 00:43:35,493 Speaker 2: You're there? 921 00:43:35,533 --> 00:43:37,573 Speaker 3: John Kida, John? 922 00:43:38,573 --> 00:43:38,772 Speaker 1: Hi? 923 00:43:39,093 --> 00:43:40,893 Speaker 3: Yeah, geay mate, you're out hunting yesterday? 924 00:43:41,733 --> 00:43:45,013 Speaker 18: Yeah, I was in the Royal Henings yesterday morning and yeah, 925 00:43:45,013 --> 00:43:48,133 Speaker 18: I saw I think it was yesterday, and then ended 926 00:43:48,213 --> 00:43:56,013 Speaker 18: up bringing one home. And I was hunting with my son. 927 00:43:57,053 --> 00:43:59,773 Speaker 18: He was a sixth at the time, and we've gone 928 00:43:59,773 --> 00:44:04,693 Speaker 18: for an overnight camp into a Department of Conservation area 929 00:44:04,733 --> 00:44:08,613 Speaker 18: in the National Park and we shot up a king 930 00:44:08,773 --> 00:44:13,453 Speaker 18: and made a little campfire and cooked a few marshmallows, 931 00:44:13,813 --> 00:44:16,533 Speaker 18: and in the evening we walked up the road stayed 932 00:44:16,573 --> 00:44:19,173 Speaker 18: on the road because we didn't have any plays orange 933 00:44:19,213 --> 00:44:22,453 Speaker 18: were know, we're just wearing Camo gear, so I thought 934 00:44:22,453 --> 00:44:25,893 Speaker 18: it'd be safe to stay on the road. We walked 935 00:44:25,933 --> 00:44:28,813 Speaker 18: up the road for about an hour, turned it out. 936 00:44:28,813 --> 00:44:30,813 Speaker 18: We sat down under a tree and we ate a 937 00:44:30,853 --> 00:44:36,292 Speaker 18: bar of chocolate, and on the walk back down we 938 00:44:36,293 --> 00:44:39,692 Speaker 18: were shot at by a guy who was hunting as well. 939 00:44:41,453 --> 00:44:42,013 Speaker 2: Wow, so. 940 00:44:43,653 --> 00:44:46,573 Speaker 16: How close did it get? 941 00:44:46,853 --> 00:44:51,133 Speaker 18: The bullet whizzed past my head and I heard the 942 00:44:51,253 --> 00:44:55,053 Speaker 18: crack like two wooden building blocks banding together as they go. 943 00:44:55,133 --> 00:44:57,573 Speaker 18: Part of the crack past my head by my ear, 944 00:44:58,453 --> 00:45:00,213 Speaker 18: and I grabbed my son and I pulled him to 945 00:45:00,253 --> 00:45:04,293 Speaker 18: the ground and I yelled out aye, and there was nothing, 946 00:45:04,333 --> 00:45:06,893 Speaker 18: and I thought, craiky, this guy's going to take another shot, 947 00:45:07,933 --> 00:45:10,293 Speaker 18: and I we had a bit louder and then I 948 00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:13,693 Speaker 18: heard him say it's all right, I've just shot a deer. 949 00:45:14,613 --> 00:45:17,373 Speaker 18: And I said, well, I'm going to stand up. And 950 00:45:17,453 --> 00:45:19,812 Speaker 18: as I stood up, I saw this guy running down 951 00:45:19,813 --> 00:45:23,853 Speaker 18: the road with his rifle. I could describe everything as 952 00:45:23,893 --> 00:45:25,933 Speaker 18: he was wearing. This is a long time ago, but 953 00:45:26,293 --> 00:45:29,373 Speaker 18: they had that much of an impact. And then he 954 00:45:29,453 --> 00:45:31,013 Speaker 18: came over to us and I said, what the hell 955 00:45:31,053 --> 00:45:33,973 Speaker 18: are you shooting at? And he said, I saw two deer. 956 00:45:34,013 --> 00:45:36,693 Speaker 18: Now his words were, I saw two deer zigzagging on 957 00:45:36,853 --> 00:45:41,252 Speaker 18: the track and I said, mate, you just started up. Wow, 958 00:45:43,933 --> 00:45:46,333 Speaker 18: said I pointed to the spot on the road on 959 00:45:46,453 --> 00:45:48,733 Speaker 18: the track where we'd been sitting and I said, we 960 00:45:48,733 --> 00:45:50,573 Speaker 18: were just sitting under there. You can see where the 961 00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:54,133 Speaker 18: grass is still pushed down. And he said, no, no, 962 00:45:54,253 --> 00:45:56,853 Speaker 18: there were two deer on the track and I said, no, 963 00:45:56,933 --> 00:45:59,893 Speaker 18: there weren't. They were us walking back down And at 964 00:45:59,893 --> 00:46:02,933 Speaker 18: the time I was a little bit sinning in the 965 00:46:03,013 --> 00:46:05,853 Speaker 18: head department on the back of my head and he 966 00:46:06,653 --> 00:46:09,213 Speaker 18: it was adamant that what he was lining up on 967 00:46:09,493 --> 00:46:11,373 Speaker 18: was the ars end of a deer. So he was 968 00:46:11,453 --> 00:46:13,573 Speaker 18: going to do what they call a Texas heart shot, 969 00:46:13,653 --> 00:46:16,053 Speaker 18: which is a shocking way to kill an animal. 970 00:46:16,173 --> 00:46:17,893 Speaker 3: What is that a teacher's heart shot. 971 00:46:18,853 --> 00:46:21,973 Speaker 18: Yeah, it's a shot under the back door. Yeah, but 972 00:46:22,733 --> 00:46:25,493 Speaker 18: it kills him throw away. But it's a horrible debt, horrible, 973 00:46:25,533 --> 00:46:30,013 Speaker 18: horrible way to go. Anyway, I we walked back down 974 00:46:30,053 --> 00:46:32,732 Speaker 18: to the car, and as we were walking back down, 975 00:46:32,773 --> 00:46:34,133 Speaker 18: I looked in the bush and I could see this 976 00:46:34,173 --> 00:46:36,373 Speaker 18: guy's vehicle was parked there. So I settled on a 977 00:46:36,413 --> 00:46:39,212 Speaker 18: piece of cardboard on a packet of bullets I had 978 00:46:39,253 --> 00:46:42,693 Speaker 18: in the pack and the lead tip of the bullet, 979 00:46:42,693 --> 00:46:45,652 Speaker 18: and I wrote his number plate down and we drove 980 00:46:45,773 --> 00:46:48,053 Speaker 18: back home. We were like, I say, we're then behind 981 00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:53,893 Speaker 18: Wauru or towards a racoony. And we stayed the night 982 00:46:54,253 --> 00:46:56,613 Speaker 18: in the tent, just me and my son. He was like, 983 00:46:56,653 --> 00:46:59,692 Speaker 18: I say six, he's now thirty, and he's a very 984 00:46:59,813 --> 00:47:03,293 Speaker 18: very competent hunter, very very competent hunter, very proud of 985 00:47:03,333 --> 00:47:05,973 Speaker 18: his the way he spotned and he shoots, and he's 986 00:47:06,093 --> 00:47:11,292 Speaker 18: very methodical, very ethical, And yeah, we got back home 987 00:47:11,333 --> 00:47:13,853 Speaker 18: and the next day and he ran in the house 988 00:47:14,013 --> 00:47:16,652 Speaker 18: and he ran into his mom. Mom, Mom, guess what 989 00:47:16,693 --> 00:47:23,173 Speaker 18: we got shot at? So she said, you better go 990 00:47:23,213 --> 00:47:24,933 Speaker 18: to the police stage. I told her, what happened. You 991 00:47:25,053 --> 00:47:27,093 Speaker 18: better go to the police station and have a word 992 00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:30,653 Speaker 18: to the police. I went down there and a sixth 993 00:47:30,693 --> 00:47:33,973 Speaker 18: page there was. The police were very very thorough six 994 00:47:34,093 --> 00:47:39,373 Speaker 18: page incident report of what had happened, and he ended 995 00:47:39,453 --> 00:47:43,173 Speaker 18: up being prosecuted careless use of the firearm. But even 996 00:47:43,213 --> 00:47:46,413 Speaker 18: in court he denied everything. And then I said to 997 00:47:46,493 --> 00:47:50,373 Speaker 18: the judge, I can describe what he was wearing. I 998 00:47:50,413 --> 00:47:53,453 Speaker 18: can describe the green tape around the front of his 999 00:47:53,573 --> 00:47:58,653 Speaker 18: scope and the ding in the side of the stock, everything. 1000 00:47:59,573 --> 00:48:03,293 Speaker 18: And he said, actually, you're honor, I'd like to change 1001 00:48:03,293 --> 00:48:05,493 Speaker 18: my plea. If not guilty, the guilty. 1002 00:48:05,533 --> 00:48:05,893 Speaker 16: He said. 1003 00:48:05,933 --> 00:48:08,413 Speaker 18: I saw what looked like a couple of deer on 1004 00:48:08,453 --> 00:48:12,053 Speaker 18: the track. I bundled up my swan drye on the ground, 1005 00:48:12,413 --> 00:48:15,533 Speaker 18: lay down on the track, put the cross on what 1006 00:48:15,573 --> 00:48:18,093 Speaker 18: I thought was the ass end of the deer, which 1007 00:48:18,213 --> 00:48:21,373 Speaker 18: was the back of my head, and they took the shot, 1008 00:48:21,413 --> 00:48:24,652 Speaker 18: and yeah, that was I heard the wizard that went past, 1009 00:48:24,693 --> 00:48:27,933 Speaker 18: and the hellishly allowed crack as the bullet went past 1010 00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:30,733 Speaker 18: my head. That was quite I didn't go hunting for 1011 00:48:30,773 --> 00:48:32,453 Speaker 18: a couple of years after that. That scared the living 1012 00:48:32,533 --> 00:48:34,172 Speaker 18: daylight that I bet so. 1013 00:48:34,693 --> 00:48:38,293 Speaker 2: Is this a sort of hallucination that comes in because 1014 00:48:38,333 --> 00:48:42,133 Speaker 2: the back of your head made it look tiny like 1015 00:48:42,533 --> 00:48:44,973 Speaker 2: a deer? But do you think that the hunter. The 1016 00:48:45,053 --> 00:48:47,333 Speaker 2: hunter's brain is fulling in a lot of details because 1017 00:48:47,333 --> 00:48:48,733 Speaker 2: they absolutely want to see it. 1018 00:48:49,933 --> 00:48:54,453 Speaker 18: There's been tests are being carried out, and your mind, like, 1019 00:48:54,893 --> 00:48:57,093 Speaker 18: I know I shot enough deer, I let them go. 1020 00:48:57,493 --> 00:49:00,773 Speaker 18: If I can't fully identify the target a hundred percent 1021 00:49:00,813 --> 00:49:03,693 Speaker 18: of there's one percent that I'm not quite sure. You 1022 00:49:03,813 --> 00:49:07,613 Speaker 18: never pulled the trigger, you know, because we're trained as hunters, 1023 00:49:08,013 --> 00:49:13,373 Speaker 18: would trained to identify the target beyond all doubt. But 1024 00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:18,733 Speaker 18: what happens is that a lot of hunters and experience 1025 00:49:18,813 --> 00:49:22,333 Speaker 18: down the young hunters, they see movement and their adamant 1026 00:49:22,333 --> 00:49:24,493 Speaker 18: that it's a deer, and their mind takes over what 1027 00:49:24,613 --> 00:49:27,693 Speaker 18: their eyes see and their eyes can say it is 1028 00:49:27,773 --> 00:49:29,773 Speaker 18: not a deer, it's a hunter, but their mind is 1029 00:49:29,813 --> 00:49:31,493 Speaker 18: saying no, no, no, no, no, it's a deer. It's 1030 00:49:31,533 --> 00:49:33,173 Speaker 18: a deer. Pulled the trigger, Pull the trigger, it's going 1031 00:49:33,253 --> 00:49:36,652 Speaker 18: to get away. And I've trained my son. I taught 1032 00:49:36,693 --> 00:49:38,773 Speaker 18: my son how to hunt, and he he shot his 1033 00:49:38,813 --> 00:49:41,813 Speaker 18: first year when he was twelve. And I always said 1034 00:49:41,813 --> 00:49:44,173 Speaker 18: to him, you know, your second deer is going to 1035 00:49:44,173 --> 00:49:46,133 Speaker 18: be right behind your first year. It's not going to 1036 00:49:46,133 --> 00:49:48,213 Speaker 18: be far away. But he shot his second deer about 1037 00:49:48,213 --> 00:49:50,253 Speaker 18: fifteen twenty seconds later. There were two of them on 1038 00:49:50,253 --> 00:49:52,133 Speaker 18: a slip and he said, oh, Dad, I never thought 1039 00:49:52,173 --> 00:49:54,133 Speaker 18: they'd be that quick together, that close together. 1040 00:49:54,933 --> 00:49:56,812 Speaker 2: Hey, John, what time of night were you walking along 1041 00:49:56,853 --> 00:49:57,212 Speaker 2: the road. 1042 00:49:58,253 --> 00:50:01,013 Speaker 18: It was in the summer, in the summer of December, 1043 00:50:01,053 --> 00:50:03,453 Speaker 18: and that was around about seven o'clock in the evening. Now, 1044 00:50:03,493 --> 00:50:09,133 Speaker 18: what's really bad about it is that there was mountain bikes, 1045 00:50:09,653 --> 00:50:13,573 Speaker 18: tire marks on the track. There was people tramping up there, 1046 00:50:13,613 --> 00:50:16,053 Speaker 18: just going for walks. And the place is good for 1047 00:50:16,173 --> 00:50:17,813 Speaker 18: deer that you know, you see quite a lot of 1048 00:50:17,813 --> 00:50:21,973 Speaker 18: Deer's a place called rangetout in behind between Ourakuoney and Wayuu. 1049 00:50:23,813 --> 00:50:25,173 Speaker 8: What I mean, is. 1050 00:50:25,173 --> 00:50:27,373 Speaker 2: There a time sort of obviously in summer it's staying 1051 00:50:27,493 --> 00:50:30,213 Speaker 2: darker longer, but is there a time when you you know, 1052 00:50:30,253 --> 00:50:32,973 Speaker 2: it's a bit risky to be wandering around. 1053 00:50:33,973 --> 00:50:37,053 Speaker 18: Ah sort of what they call the golden hour, Yeah, 1054 00:50:37,213 --> 00:50:40,293 Speaker 18: sort of, you know, the last hour of darkness. It's 1055 00:50:40,333 --> 00:50:44,373 Speaker 18: when you you know, your mind seeing the flicker in 1056 00:50:44,413 --> 00:50:46,573 Speaker 18: the bush or on a clearing and you think, oh, yeah, 1057 00:50:46,573 --> 00:50:49,013 Speaker 18: it's a deer, but it's actually a blackbird that takes off. 1058 00:50:49,053 --> 00:50:52,813 Speaker 18: And you can stalk in on so many blackbirds it's 1059 00:50:52,853 --> 00:50:55,213 Speaker 18: not funny when you're hunting and they take off and 1060 00:50:55,253 --> 00:50:57,213 Speaker 18: you think, oh, blugg are wasted caught of an house 1061 00:50:57,253 --> 00:51:01,013 Speaker 18: stalking in on a blackbird or a wood pigeoner and you. 1062 00:51:00,933 --> 00:51:03,333 Speaker 20: Know something in a tree. 1063 00:51:03,653 --> 00:51:04,373 Speaker 2: Is it not rules? 1064 00:51:04,373 --> 00:51:04,533 Speaker 6: Though? 1065 00:51:04,533 --> 00:51:06,413 Speaker 3: It sounded like you were pretty close to the track 1066 00:51:06,493 --> 00:51:08,173 Speaker 3: or on the track, John, Is there not rules that 1067 00:51:08,213 --> 00:51:11,133 Speaker 3: you you if you've got the track in your sights, 1068 00:51:11,173 --> 00:51:12,253 Speaker 3: then that's highly legal. 1069 00:51:13,413 --> 00:51:14,533 Speaker 18: No, no, not there. 1070 00:51:14,693 --> 00:51:15,893 Speaker 17: No, we were. 1071 00:51:16,293 --> 00:51:18,213 Speaker 18: We were walking on the track and this guy had 1072 00:51:18,213 --> 00:51:20,013 Speaker 18: obviously been in the bush and come out onto the 1073 00:51:20,093 --> 00:51:22,533 Speaker 18: road and see what he believes to be a couple 1074 00:51:22,573 --> 00:51:24,573 Speaker 18: of deer. What I always do is, if I'm on 1075 00:51:24,733 --> 00:51:27,453 Speaker 18: in the portion I know the tracks nearby, I'll take 1076 00:51:27,453 --> 00:51:29,413 Speaker 18: a swan dry off and I'll throw it out onto 1077 00:51:29,453 --> 00:51:32,613 Speaker 18: the track so that people will see something come out 1078 00:51:32,613 --> 00:51:34,133 Speaker 18: onto the track. They look down and they'll see a 1079 00:51:34,173 --> 00:51:36,373 Speaker 18: bit of orange that I wear blaze orange now when 1080 00:51:36,413 --> 00:51:38,653 Speaker 18: I'm out there, just even if it's just a blaze 1081 00:51:38,653 --> 00:51:41,773 Speaker 18: orange cap. Yeah, like a lot of hunters, a lot 1082 00:51:41,773 --> 00:51:45,173 Speaker 18: of hunters wearing blaze orange have actually been shot in 1083 00:51:45,253 --> 00:51:49,213 Speaker 18: the past. There's been several instances where hunters wearing blaze 1084 00:51:49,253 --> 00:51:53,292 Speaker 18: orange have been shot. And that's because when the sun 1085 00:51:53,333 --> 00:51:55,613 Speaker 18: shines on a deer in the summer, you know, like 1086 00:51:55,613 --> 00:51:58,373 Speaker 18: a red deer or a seeker deer, the skin is 1087 00:51:58,493 --> 00:52:02,333 Speaker 18: very orange and color in the times, so people think, oh, 1088 00:52:02,413 --> 00:52:06,173 Speaker 18: orange is the deer and it's all over. But you know, 1089 00:52:06,253 --> 00:52:08,573 Speaker 18: in this country, because there's so many people that hunt 1090 00:52:09,413 --> 00:52:12,733 Speaker 18: and there are so few fatalities or incidents, we're actually 1091 00:52:12,853 --> 00:52:16,333 Speaker 18: very very good with firearms with what we do. 1092 00:52:16,893 --> 00:52:18,692 Speaker 2: That's good to hear. John. 1093 00:52:18,973 --> 00:52:21,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is good news. Thank you very much. That's 1094 00:52:21,493 --> 00:52:23,732 Speaker 3: a terrifying experience. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty 1095 00:52:23,773 --> 00:52:24,533 Speaker 3: is the number to call. 1096 00:52:24,813 --> 00:52:27,772 Speaker 2: Craig says, I'd be more pissed off that someone thought 1097 00:52:27,813 --> 00:52:31,613 Speaker 2: my head looked like a deer's buttle in the shooting. 1098 00:52:31,613 --> 00:52:35,172 Speaker 3: Great Text nineteen ninety two is that Dick's number. There's 1099 00:52:35,213 --> 00:52:38,333 Speaker 3: plenty coming through. We'll take a quick break and we've 1100 00:52:38,373 --> 00:52:40,813 Speaker 3: got plenty of calls to get to. That's all coming 1101 00:52:40,893 --> 00:52:42,373 Speaker 3: up next. It is twenty two past two. 1102 00:52:46,333 --> 00:52:50,013 Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty 1103 00:52:50,053 --> 00:52:52,253 Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk said, be very. 1104 00:52:52,133 --> 00:52:54,093 Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. So if you're a hunter, I 1105 00:52:54,093 --> 00:52:55,773 Speaker 3: love to hear from you on I eatee hundred eighty 1106 00:52:55,973 --> 00:52:58,533 Speaker 3: ten eighty. How safe is it out there when you 1107 00:52:58,653 --> 00:53:02,333 Speaker 3: are hunting? To everybody, play by the rules, really keen 1108 00:53:02,413 --> 00:53:04,693 Speaker 3: to get your experience as nineteen nine two is the text. 1109 00:53:04,773 --> 00:53:06,853 Speaker 2: The term you're looking for is buck fever. That's what 1110 00:53:06,933 --> 00:53:12,413 Speaker 2: us hunters call those hallucinations, right, Jason, your thoughts on 1111 00:53:12,973 --> 00:53:15,133 Speaker 2: hunting safety, Yeah. 1112 00:53:14,933 --> 00:53:20,373 Speaker 17: Good afternoon gents. Just to the previous quarter, we do 1113 00:53:20,493 --> 00:53:22,853 Speaker 17: actually have a rule. It says we may not hunt 1114 00:53:23,053 --> 00:53:26,493 Speaker 17: five hundred meters or half a kilometer or any walking 1115 00:53:26,533 --> 00:53:28,973 Speaker 17: track or cycle away in the wash. 1116 00:53:30,133 --> 00:53:31,693 Speaker 3: I thought there was the case because if it's a 1117 00:53:31,773 --> 00:53:34,212 Speaker 3: hunting area where his tramps, et cetera, and as you say, 1118 00:53:34,693 --> 00:53:37,693 Speaker 3: cyclist as well, that anyone who lines up a buck 1119 00:53:37,733 --> 00:53:39,773 Speaker 3: over a track can get into a lot of trouble. 1120 00:53:40,573 --> 00:53:42,893 Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, so it's actually half a kilometers away from 1121 00:53:42,933 --> 00:53:45,293 Speaker 17: any walking track or or cycling can it. 1122 00:53:45,213 --> 00:53:48,172 Speaker 2: Be hard to identify those tracks though. If you're out there, 1123 00:53:48,213 --> 00:53:51,133 Speaker 2: you're in dense bush, you're looking through bush and to 1124 00:53:51,213 --> 00:53:52,853 Speaker 2: other bush to see that there's a trick. 1125 00:53:53,853 --> 00:53:58,013 Speaker 17: Yeah, most of us carry GPSS, your garment. GPS is around. 1126 00:53:58,093 --> 00:54:01,013 Speaker 17: It's got all the hunting tracks around on your hunting grounds, 1127 00:54:01,013 --> 00:54:03,693 Speaker 17: which is a good idea which you cindent only wander 1128 00:54:03,693 --> 00:54:07,013 Speaker 17: into somebody's private property and shot shooting at at the 1129 00:54:07,293 --> 00:54:11,413 Speaker 17: things you know. Yeah, but what I was actually frailing 1130 00:54:11,413 --> 00:54:13,813 Speaker 17: for is that that lady is as well, that maybe 1131 00:54:13,853 --> 00:54:18,652 Speaker 17: they shot yourself accidentally. Tragedy it is. But we've also 1132 00:54:18,693 --> 00:54:22,333 Speaker 17: got a a rule that you don't walk around the 1133 00:54:22,333 --> 00:54:28,212 Speaker 17: bush with chamber and around in the chamber. So it's 1134 00:54:28,213 --> 00:54:30,533 Speaker 17: the very last thing you do once you've identified your target. 1135 00:54:31,173 --> 00:54:33,853 Speaker 17: You lay down, look for your scope and then chamber 1136 00:54:33,893 --> 00:54:35,453 Speaker 17: around is the last thing you do before you pull 1137 00:54:35,493 --> 00:54:38,413 Speaker 17: the trigger. And then once you pull the trigger down 1138 00:54:38,453 --> 00:54:43,373 Speaker 17: the deer. Make sure you're going safe again, So take 1139 00:54:43,373 --> 00:54:45,732 Speaker 17: the empty shout out if you've reloaded again to take 1140 00:54:45,853 --> 00:54:48,893 Speaker 17: a quick shot. That's the buck does run away. Just 1141 00:54:48,933 --> 00:54:51,013 Speaker 17: make sure that your rifle is safe and don't walk 1142 00:54:51,013 --> 00:54:53,133 Speaker 17: around the bush with around here? 1143 00:54:53,213 --> 00:54:53,413 Speaker 9: Are you? 1144 00:54:53,493 --> 00:54:56,493 Speaker 2: You're a pretty experience hunter, Jason? Is that correct? 1145 00:54:56,573 --> 00:54:57,373 Speaker 17: Yeah? 1146 00:54:57,493 --> 00:55:02,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, time that that that, I know, complacency can creep 1147 00:55:02,653 --> 00:55:05,733 Speaker 2: in and or do you stick to those the seven 1148 00:55:05,853 --> 00:55:06,813 Speaker 2: rules religiously? 1149 00:55:07,013 --> 00:55:09,693 Speaker 17: You've you've got us to to the seven rules religiously. 1150 00:55:09,733 --> 00:55:12,973 Speaker 17: I've got a youngster that that take with me as well. 1151 00:55:13,373 --> 00:55:17,093 Speaker 17: He's twelve. And I know it's not for everybody, and 1152 00:55:19,773 --> 00:55:23,533 Speaker 17: it's quite expensive, but my scope, I can actually look 1153 00:55:24,213 --> 00:55:26,693 Speaker 17: at my phone or my iPad and I can I 1154 00:55:26,693 --> 00:55:29,293 Speaker 17: can see what the youngster is actually looking at through 1155 00:55:29,293 --> 00:55:33,053 Speaker 17: the scope he pulls the trigger. Yeah, so when he's 1156 00:55:33,053 --> 00:55:35,652 Speaker 17: a rabbit shooting or deal possible to anything like that, 1157 00:55:35,693 --> 00:55:38,253 Speaker 17: I'm always with him looking at what he's looking through 1158 00:55:38,333 --> 00:55:42,533 Speaker 17: through the scope. And you've you've got to keep those 1159 00:55:42,533 --> 00:55:47,853 Speaker 17: seven rules. It keeps you safe, he keeps everybody else safe. Yeah. 1160 00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:50,733 Speaker 17: I think you feel pretty pretty bad if you just 1161 00:55:50,853 --> 00:55:54,053 Speaker 17: end up shooting somebody or you know, how did you. 1162 00:55:53,973 --> 00:55:54,453 Speaker 6: Get into it? 1163 00:55:54,533 --> 00:55:56,652 Speaker 3: Jason? I just asked there because I wonder if you know, 1164 00:55:56,813 --> 00:55:58,573 Speaker 3: I'd love to get into hunting, but I've got no 1165 00:55:58,693 --> 00:56:01,053 Speaker 3: experience and I wouldn't know where to start. But do 1166 00:56:01,093 --> 00:56:04,813 Speaker 3: you think there is a few people out there that 1167 00:56:04,813 --> 00:56:06,253 Speaker 3: that want to get into it and maybe are not 1168 00:56:06,293 --> 00:56:08,413 Speaker 3: going through the right processes, you know, if you know 1169 00:56:08,453 --> 00:56:09,853 Speaker 3: what I mean, they don't quite know the rules. 1170 00:56:10,733 --> 00:56:13,413 Speaker 17: Yeah, there's a lot of guys out there that just talkers. 1171 00:56:14,373 --> 00:56:18,133 Speaker 17: They always willing to help young hunters and new guys 1172 00:56:18,133 --> 00:56:19,813 Speaker 17: trying to get into the thing. There's a lot of 1173 00:56:20,253 --> 00:56:24,053 Speaker 17: content on social media, on you YouTube and things like 1174 00:56:24,093 --> 00:56:28,613 Speaker 17: that if you wanted to get into it as well. Yeah, 1175 00:56:28,893 --> 00:56:31,333 Speaker 17: I've been hunting quite a long time. When we grew 1176 00:56:31,413 --> 00:56:33,053 Speaker 17: up with it. I don't know if you can tell, 1177 00:56:33,133 --> 00:56:34,893 Speaker 17: but I'm from so Alifrica and we grew up with 1178 00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:39,493 Speaker 17: it a lot back home, and then after COVID, COVID 1179 00:56:39,533 --> 00:56:42,252 Speaker 17: really got me back into it over. Yeah, I don't 1180 00:56:42,293 --> 00:56:44,693 Speaker 17: know this feel. I don't know whether the shops are 1181 00:56:44,733 --> 00:56:45,973 Speaker 17: going to be open or you've been able to feed 1182 00:56:46,013 --> 00:56:48,333 Speaker 17: your family toping And I've just got back into it 1183 00:56:48,333 --> 00:56:49,413 Speaker 17: and the kids love it as well. 1184 00:56:49,493 --> 00:56:54,172 Speaker 2: So there's a text to here, Jason that says if 1185 00:56:54,213 --> 00:56:56,933 Speaker 2: the seven basic rules are followed by everyone, there would 1186 00:56:56,933 --> 00:57:00,133 Speaker 2: be no accidents. But like everything, there's a few cowboys 1187 00:57:00,133 --> 00:57:04,252 Speaker 2: that ruin it for everyone. Do you come across cowboys 1188 00:57:04,573 --> 00:57:06,413 Speaker 2: and you when you're out hunting, do you see it? 1189 00:57:06,573 --> 00:57:08,333 Speaker 2: See many people that are breaking the rules? 1190 00:57:09,493 --> 00:57:12,053 Speaker 17: You do and you always get it in society. Whether 1191 00:57:12,733 --> 00:57:16,533 Speaker 17: I don't know how you'd fix that really, yeah, whether 1192 00:57:17,133 --> 00:57:18,733 Speaker 17: the law needs to get a harsh show and people 1193 00:57:18,813 --> 00:57:22,653 Speaker 17: do break the rules and things to make people really 1194 00:57:22,693 --> 00:57:25,493 Speaker 17: think of what I could do, could really get into 1195 00:57:25,493 --> 00:57:27,493 Speaker 17: a lot of troubletop thing, you know. I don't know 1196 00:57:27,493 --> 00:57:28,533 Speaker 17: what the answer would be there. 1197 00:57:28,933 --> 00:57:30,973 Speaker 3: What's the deal with spotlighting at the moment? Was that 1198 00:57:31,213 --> 00:57:31,933 Speaker 3: was that banned? 1199 00:57:33,533 --> 00:57:37,293 Speaker 17: I think it's on all public land, So spotlighting and 1200 00:57:37,453 --> 00:57:39,333 Speaker 17: night vision and all those things. You I don't think it. 1201 00:57:39,493 --> 00:57:41,213 Speaker 17: I mean you've got a special perman I think it is. 1202 00:57:41,213 --> 00:57:43,053 Speaker 17: I'm not too sure, correct me if I'm wrong, But 1203 00:57:43,413 --> 00:57:45,333 Speaker 17: I know a public lands you're not. You're not supposed 1204 00:57:45,373 --> 00:57:48,413 Speaker 17: to spotlight and yeah, night vision and things like get 1205 00:57:48,453 --> 00:57:50,053 Speaker 17: but on private band against all do that? 1206 00:57:50,293 --> 00:57:50,493 Speaker 21: Yeah? 1207 00:57:50,613 --> 00:57:50,893 Speaker 3: Right? 1208 00:57:51,253 --> 00:57:51,973 Speaker 2: What do you hunt? 1209 00:57:52,013 --> 00:57:52,293 Speaker 5: What do you? 1210 00:57:52,373 --> 00:57:54,853 Speaker 2: What do you? What are you wearing when you're hunting? Jason? 1211 00:57:54,853 --> 00:58:00,773 Speaker 2: Are you wearing you know, safety orange. 1212 00:57:59,773 --> 00:58:03,173 Speaker 17: A safety cap or iver's vest. So you are and 1213 00:58:03,733 --> 00:58:06,293 Speaker 17: if everybody does take that that extra minutes or you 1214 00:58:06,453 --> 00:58:08,213 Speaker 17: to identify their target, which is in one of the 1215 00:58:08,373 --> 00:58:13,813 Speaker 17: seven rules, identify your target beyond any reasonable doubt. Not 1216 00:58:13,973 --> 00:58:14,973 Speaker 17: much can go wrong? Really? 1217 00:58:15,933 --> 00:58:21,533 Speaker 2: And and does that alert you to the deer wearing 1218 00:58:21,573 --> 00:58:23,493 Speaker 2: that that that safety? 1219 00:58:23,733 --> 00:58:26,933 Speaker 17: Because I think they said don't see colors, right, so 1220 00:58:26,973 --> 00:58:32,173 Speaker 17: I mean yeah, I think well before they really see you? 1221 00:58:32,253 --> 00:58:36,813 Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, interesting. You're a fascinating chair. Thank you 1222 00:58:36,933 --> 00:58:38,693 Speaker 3: very much, Jason. I wait, one hundred and eighty t 1223 00:58:38,773 --> 00:58:40,613 Speaker 3: and eighty. If you're a hunter, how is it out? 1224 00:58:40,653 --> 00:58:40,773 Speaker 7: Then? 1225 00:58:40,813 --> 00:58:42,973 Speaker 3: How do you keep yourself safe? Love to hear from you? 1226 00:58:43,213 --> 00:58:45,213 Speaker 3: Nine to nine two? Is that TIX number as well? 1227 00:58:45,413 --> 00:58:49,133 Speaker 2: The sext that says no rules. We don't need no 1228 00:58:49,453 --> 00:58:53,173 Speaker 2: stinking rules. It's every man for themselves out there, cheaper. 1229 00:58:53,173 --> 00:58:55,653 Speaker 3: It's good luck with that. Okay, let's just let's just 1230 00:58:55,653 --> 00:58:56,653 Speaker 3: find out that person is. 1231 00:58:56,813 --> 00:58:59,133 Speaker 2: Put a GPS tracker on that guy. And I hope 1232 00:58:59,253 --> 00:59:00,373 Speaker 2: they're talking out their butt. 1233 00:59:00,573 --> 00:59:03,333 Speaker 3: I think they are headlines with Raylene coming next. 1234 00:59:03,493 --> 00:59:11,573 Speaker 2: Better than getting shot up, you butts. 1235 00:59:08,093 --> 00:59:12,133 Speaker 14: Tall, savvy headlines with blue bubble taxes. It's no trouble 1236 00:59:12,213 --> 00:59:15,093 Speaker 14: with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister says he's not 1237 00:59:15,253 --> 00:59:19,293 Speaker 14: listening to other countries criticizing our climate policy until their 1238 00:59:19,293 --> 00:59:24,013 Speaker 14: renewable energy matches ours. There's been speculation government moves will 1239 00:59:24,053 --> 00:59:27,773 Speaker 14: affect trade agreements with key partners like the EU and UK. 1240 00:59:28,853 --> 00:59:31,533 Speaker 14: A seriously injured man has been freed from a logging 1241 00:59:31,613 --> 00:59:34,773 Speaker 14: truck that left the road north of Belcluther about eleven 1242 00:59:34,813 --> 00:59:38,373 Speaker 14: this morning. A person's been taken to hospital with moderate 1243 00:59:38,413 --> 00:59:42,173 Speaker 14: injuries after a house fire in Tamaru this afternoon. The 1244 00:59:42,213 --> 00:59:45,973 Speaker 14: house was well ablazed when emergency services arrived at Woodlands 1245 00:59:46,053 --> 00:59:50,053 Speaker 14: Road in Parkside shortly after midday. It's now contained a 1246 00:59:50,173 --> 00:59:54,733 Speaker 14: fire investigators heading there. A Swiss man's admitted causing a 1247 00:59:54,733 --> 00:59:58,653 Speaker 14: fatal crash at Canterbury's Sheffield and will be sentenced in January. 1248 00:59:59,053 --> 01:00:02,133 Speaker 14: Is offered to engage in restorative justice and to cover 1249 01:00:02,173 --> 01:00:06,373 Speaker 14: the cost of the victim's funeral. The Burnett Foundation says 1250 01:00:06,373 --> 01:00:09,453 Speaker 14: one hundred thousand dollars funding for scaling up wrap around 1251 01:00:09,613 --> 01:00:13,893 Speaker 14: HIV counseling services is a positive step towards providing more 1252 01:00:13,933 --> 01:00:17,773 Speaker 14: mental health support to sufferers and they're far known a 1253 01:00:17,813 --> 01:00:21,653 Speaker 14: whole new world the pathway to US college scholarships for 1254 01:00:21,773 --> 01:00:25,413 Speaker 14: top key we athletes. See the story at NZ Herald Premium. 1255 01:00:25,573 --> 01:00:27,213 Speaker 14: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adam. 1256 01:00:27,293 --> 01:00:29,493 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, ray Leane. So we're talking about 1257 01:00:29,493 --> 01:00:31,773 Speaker 3: staying safe. If you're a hunter out there, I love 1258 01:00:31,773 --> 01:00:34,133 Speaker 3: to hear from you on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 1259 01:00:34,293 --> 01:00:36,533 Speaker 3: It's been a lot of talk about the seven rules, 1260 01:00:36,573 --> 01:00:37,973 Speaker 3: but can you hear your experiences? 1261 01:00:38,133 --> 01:00:39,973 Speaker 2: I m ast all share the seven rules again them. 1262 01:00:40,773 --> 01:00:44,453 Speaker 2: These the seven rules of fire arms safety, and I've 1263 01:00:44,453 --> 01:00:48,493 Speaker 2: got these from the NZDA, the New Zealand Deer Stalkers Association. 1264 01:00:48,813 --> 01:00:53,933 Speaker 2: Rule one, treat every firearm as loaded. Rule two. Always 1265 01:00:53,973 --> 01:00:58,093 Speaker 2: point firearms in a safe direction. Rule three. Chamber a 1266 01:00:58,173 --> 01:01:01,813 Speaker 2: cartridge only when ready to fire. Rule four. Identify your 1267 01:01:01,813 --> 01:01:05,293 Speaker 2: target beyond all doubt. So the back of a ball 1268 01:01:05,533 --> 01:01:08,853 Speaker 2: man's head is not the back of a deer. I mean, 1269 01:01:08,893 --> 01:01:11,013 Speaker 2: if you're going to be shooting them up the backside anyway, 1270 01:01:11,013 --> 01:01:13,573 Speaker 2: I'm not sure whether that's a great idea or a 1271 01:01:13,653 --> 01:01:16,373 Speaker 2: very nice thing to do exactly. Rule five. Check your 1272 01:01:16,373 --> 01:01:21,973 Speaker 2: firing zone. Rule six Store and transport firearms and ammunition safely. 1273 01:01:22,333 --> 01:01:26,133 Speaker 2: R All seven avoid alcohol drugs when handling fire arms. 1274 01:01:26,213 --> 01:01:29,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, makes a lot of sense. Chere on, you're a farmer, 1275 01:01:29,253 --> 01:01:29,733 Speaker 3: how are you? 1276 01:01:31,053 --> 01:01:33,933 Speaker 22: Yeah? You know, mate, We've got a local pub that 1277 01:01:34,053 --> 01:01:37,373 Speaker 22: runs a yearly sort of sort of take hunt hunt 1278 01:01:37,493 --> 01:01:43,413 Speaker 22: kind of things. And every weekend, well that week in particular, 1279 01:01:43,853 --> 01:01:46,853 Speaker 22: we get the wink In warriors coming up communicated the 1280 01:01:46,933 --> 01:01:49,213 Speaker 22: farmers hunter as they know they've got to go way 1281 01:01:49,253 --> 01:01:52,053 Speaker 22: up in the hills and all that getting indecent for 1282 01:01:52,173 --> 01:01:54,493 Speaker 22: the weekend warriors have come out once in a blue moon. 1283 01:01:54,533 --> 01:01:57,373 Speaker 22: They think they can drive up the main road, jump out, 1284 01:01:57,533 --> 01:01:59,613 Speaker 22: walk one hundred meters and shoot something. And when they 1285 01:02:00,173 --> 01:02:02,613 Speaker 22: when they're empty handed after a couple of days, they 1286 01:02:03,253 --> 01:02:06,333 Speaker 22: get a little bit proger happy. When we first meet here, 1287 01:02:06,333 --> 01:02:09,013 Speaker 22: we just have one sheet of shot just so happened 1288 01:02:09,053 --> 01:02:11,813 Speaker 22: to be on that weekend. Now I move all the 1289 01:02:11,853 --> 01:02:14,533 Speaker 22: animals a wait from the front line. Well, what's not 1290 01:02:14,733 --> 01:02:16,773 Speaker 22: some pet goats and one of them's got a nice 1291 01:02:16,773 --> 01:02:19,933 Speaker 22: to get a horns on them. We've put floral collows 1292 01:02:19,973 --> 01:02:21,533 Speaker 22: on them, and they get the roop down to the 1293 01:02:21,533 --> 01:02:25,173 Speaker 22: bottom paddocks and I'm make sure I'm up the front. 1294 01:02:26,173 --> 01:02:29,173 Speaker 22: Were doing and something like that. But for a few times, 1295 01:02:29,173 --> 01:02:31,973 Speaker 22: and that guys slow right down when they haven't seen me, 1296 01:02:32,693 --> 01:02:35,173 Speaker 22: start to stoke the land, and I had to tell 1297 01:02:35,213 --> 01:02:35,973 Speaker 22: them to bug off. 1298 01:02:37,413 --> 01:02:40,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's quite terrifying. So you reckon, that's 1299 01:02:40,533 --> 01:02:43,373 Speaker 3: just guys that have recently got into the sport and 1300 01:02:43,413 --> 01:02:45,773 Speaker 3: as you call them weak in warriors, the experienced guys 1301 01:02:45,813 --> 01:02:46,413 Speaker 3: would know better. 1302 01:02:47,573 --> 01:02:49,253 Speaker 22: Yeah, well, they're sort of guys that are in a 1303 01:02:49,333 --> 01:02:51,093 Speaker 22: hundred for a while. But they go out once and 1304 01:02:51,613 --> 01:02:53,213 Speaker 22: right in the blue moon and they you know, they 1305 01:02:53,253 --> 01:02:56,013 Speaker 22: go with their mate and many of plenty of bravado. 1306 01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:59,013 Speaker 22: They haven't shot anything into the whole day. They come back, 1307 01:02:59,053 --> 01:03:02,413 Speaker 22: they're a little bit, a little bit tony, and yeah, 1308 01:03:02,453 --> 01:03:04,413 Speaker 22: I do believe that that's exactly whatever. They get a 1309 01:03:04,573 --> 01:03:07,813 Speaker 22: trigger happy and they wanted to shooting into boots. 1310 01:03:08,893 --> 01:03:11,533 Speaker 2: So do you think so with with you know, buck fever, 1311 01:03:11,973 --> 01:03:14,653 Speaker 2: when you start seeing things that aren't there? So do 1312 01:03:14,693 --> 01:03:18,573 Speaker 2: you think that that comes with frustration? Probably also a 1313 01:03:18,573 --> 01:03:20,253 Speaker 2: bit of tiredness. If you've been out there for a 1314 01:03:20,293 --> 01:03:22,573 Speaker 2: few days you haven't shot anything, then. 1315 01:03:24,413 --> 01:03:28,253 Speaker 22: I think I think nine frustration And yeah, they just 1316 01:03:28,333 --> 01:03:31,133 Speaker 22: they just see what they want to see what was 1317 01:03:31,173 --> 01:03:36,333 Speaker 22: actually there. I mean, there was a woman and shot someone. 1318 01:03:37,533 --> 01:03:40,893 Speaker 22: Bring us the law went all hayword here because they 1319 01:03:41,293 --> 01:03:43,173 Speaker 22: they weren't supposed to be shooting from a car and 1320 01:03:43,213 --> 01:03:47,813 Speaker 22: the things and they saw the good light when those 1321 01:03:48,253 --> 01:03:50,813 Speaker 22: things on, and they thought it was eyes shine and 1322 01:03:50,853 --> 01:03:52,533 Speaker 22: they shove killed. 1323 01:03:52,893 --> 01:03:53,333 Speaker 3: That's right. 1324 01:03:53,573 --> 01:03:56,973 Speaker 22: That wasn't that long ago. They should have been really 1325 01:03:57,973 --> 01:03:58,253 Speaker 22: for that. 1326 01:03:58,493 --> 01:03:59,453 Speaker 18: And they got away. 1327 01:03:59,333 --> 01:04:01,533 Speaker 22: Really like I don't I don't know who they knew 1328 01:04:01,533 --> 01:04:05,453 Speaker 22: in the system, but they've got away real mut What. 1329 01:04:05,293 --> 01:04:08,813 Speaker 2: What does true identification? You know, if you can get 1330 01:04:08,853 --> 01:04:11,893 Speaker 2: buck fever and you can have these hallucinations, John, what 1331 01:04:12,133 --> 01:04:16,253 Speaker 2: is a full identification of your target? What does that entail? 1332 01:04:17,173 --> 01:04:20,693 Speaker 22: Well, you see the you see enough of the animal, 1333 01:04:20,733 --> 01:04:23,373 Speaker 22: you know exactly what it is. But something moving behind 1334 01:04:23,373 --> 01:04:26,493 Speaker 22: the bushes isn't exactly your animal, and you want to 1335 01:04:26,533 --> 01:04:28,453 Speaker 22: actually shoot what is sticking out of the boss. You 1336 01:04:28,453 --> 01:04:30,813 Speaker 22: don't just sort of sort of see, you know, see 1337 01:04:31,453 --> 01:04:33,893 Speaker 22: a sort of lead sticking out and go oh yeah, 1338 01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:39,693 Speaker 22: I'll give whatever's moving behind their shot. So you knowation, 1339 01:04:39,853 --> 01:04:42,133 Speaker 22: you know, you know exactly what of what ties of it. 1340 01:04:42,773 --> 01:04:46,053 Speaker 22: You know, you're actually saying, yes, I know that's a 1341 01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:49,213 Speaker 22: gear and not just a joke or something like that, 1342 01:04:50,933 --> 01:04:55,013 Speaker 22: exactly what it is. You know, shooting that anything that 1343 01:04:55,573 --> 01:04:58,133 Speaker 22: moves is not right. And you also that the target 1344 01:04:58,133 --> 01:05:01,253 Speaker 22: speak is as well. Now these guys are coming away 1345 01:05:01,693 --> 01:05:05,173 Speaker 22: wanting to shoot anything that's that that's sort of my 1346 01:05:05,213 --> 01:05:05,893 Speaker 22: opinion of it. 1347 01:05:06,133 --> 01:05:08,333 Speaker 3: M H. So when you say sometimes they take out 1348 01:05:08,453 --> 01:05:11,533 Speaker 3: farm animals, you're talking about deer on farm rather than 1349 01:05:12,253 --> 01:05:13,013 Speaker 3: cattle or sheep. 1350 01:05:14,173 --> 01:05:16,613 Speaker 22: Oh, we've had, we've had, We've had down the valley here. 1351 01:05:16,653 --> 01:05:19,853 Speaker 22: We've had one of the local farmers here year, walking 1352 01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:22,373 Speaker 22: across the land quite often we get to the river, 1353 01:05:23,413 --> 01:05:27,093 Speaker 22: someone shot one of them, basic chopped and tear the 1354 01:05:27,133 --> 01:05:29,253 Speaker 22: head off the trophy and left the rest of the 1355 01:05:29,853 --> 01:05:32,333 Speaker 22: sitting on the side of the road. Now it obviously 1356 01:05:32,333 --> 01:05:37,093 Speaker 22: shot across the farmer's land, and get it. And this 1357 01:05:37,213 --> 01:05:39,733 Speaker 22: is the kind of thing we're putting up with, shooting 1358 01:05:39,773 --> 01:05:43,973 Speaker 22: across someone's land or being assets and someone's land dress 1359 01:05:44,013 --> 01:05:45,773 Speaker 22: parts and should be one of those horse. 1360 01:05:46,373 --> 01:05:49,413 Speaker 2: Has that kind of looked down upon the just trophy 1361 01:05:50,133 --> 01:05:52,253 Speaker 2: instead of taking the whole animal out, if you just 1362 01:05:52,293 --> 01:05:53,813 Speaker 2: tack the head off because you want to you know, 1363 01:05:53,893 --> 01:05:56,693 Speaker 2: you want to won the trophy as opposed to taking 1364 01:05:56,693 --> 01:05:59,973 Speaker 2: the whole beast out and you know, processing it to eat. 1365 01:06:00,933 --> 01:06:02,613 Speaker 22: Yeah, we get it. We get it all the time. 1366 01:06:05,133 --> 01:06:06,893 Speaker 22: I know some of the you know, some of the 1367 01:06:06,893 --> 01:06:10,813 Speaker 22: animals to pierce a real peace around here. But disupposing 1368 01:06:10,893 --> 01:06:13,613 Speaker 22: the animal properly. Like quite often they'll chop the bottom 1369 01:06:13,653 --> 01:06:16,413 Speaker 22: jaw off to get the pass of a of a 1370 01:06:16,493 --> 01:06:19,493 Speaker 22: decent side too, and then and then they'll just jump 1371 01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:22,413 Speaker 22: the rest in a long roads and you smell when 1372 01:06:22,413 --> 01:06:26,173 Speaker 22: you're driving, you cut and dumping them and somewhere up 1373 01:06:26,213 --> 01:06:26,813 Speaker 22: the belly. 1374 01:06:27,133 --> 01:06:29,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a text that's just come through, John, whether 1375 01:06:29,973 --> 01:06:32,653 Speaker 3: there's any truth of this. It says thermal imaging scopes 1376 01:06:32,653 --> 01:06:35,493 Speaker 3: are prolific and causing hunters to shoot at heat images 1377 01:06:35,533 --> 01:06:39,093 Speaker 3: alone when not identifying target through optical scope. Do you 1378 01:06:39,093 --> 01:06:40,373 Speaker 3: think there's a lot of truth in that. 1379 01:06:41,253 --> 01:06:43,573 Speaker 22: Yeah, they're a you know there, they are a tall 1380 01:06:43,693 --> 01:06:46,013 Speaker 22: just like in the other toll. But they've got I've 1381 01:06:46,053 --> 01:06:47,893 Speaker 22: never actually used one, but a couple of our mates 1382 01:06:47,933 --> 01:06:51,293 Speaker 22: have got them. They really create. But just like anything else, 1383 01:06:51,333 --> 01:06:53,653 Speaker 22: you can't rely on it. You've got to you've got 1384 01:06:53,653 --> 01:06:57,173 Speaker 22: to have that have that second sight I think, to 1385 01:06:57,213 --> 01:06:57,853 Speaker 22: pack up on it. 1386 01:06:58,093 --> 01:07:01,493 Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting, John, thanks very much for giving us a buzz. 1387 01:07:01,893 --> 01:07:03,733 Speaker 2: Chris says there should be an extra rule keep your 1388 01:07:03,733 --> 01:07:06,373 Speaker 2: finger outside the trigger guard until you're ready to fire. 1389 01:07:06,413 --> 01:07:07,613 Speaker 2: We have that rule in the police. 1390 01:07:07,733 --> 01:07:10,533 Speaker 3: Makes sense. Yeah, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 1391 01:07:10,573 --> 01:07:12,493 Speaker 3: that number to call if you're a hunter? How are 1392 01:07:12,493 --> 01:07:13,893 Speaker 3: things out there at the moment? And how do you 1393 01:07:13,973 --> 01:07:16,573 Speaker 3: keep yourself safe? And are there, as John said, the 1394 01:07:16,573 --> 01:07:19,613 Speaker 3: weekend warriors who are pushing things a little bit too far? 1395 01:07:19,773 --> 01:07:22,253 Speaker 3: Nine two niney two is the text. It is eighteen 1396 01:07:22,293 --> 01:07:22,693 Speaker 3: to three. 1397 01:07:23,733 --> 01:07:26,373 Speaker 1: Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty 1398 01:07:26,413 --> 01:07:30,213 Speaker 1: ten eighty. Mart Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news Talk. 1399 01:07:30,053 --> 01:07:32,453 Speaker 3: Said, be it is sixteen to three and we're talking 1400 01:07:32,453 --> 01:07:36,253 Speaker 3: about hunting. If you're out there hunting on a regular basis, 1401 01:07:36,253 --> 01:07:37,253 Speaker 3: how do you keep yourself safe? 1402 01:07:37,253 --> 01:07:37,333 Speaker 4: Oh? 1403 01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:38,453 Speaker 3: We one hundred eighteen eighty. 1404 01:07:38,533 --> 01:07:40,973 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, it's called mindset. It's the same in aviation. 1405 01:07:41,093 --> 01:07:43,813 Speaker 2: There's a paper you have to sit called human factors. 1406 01:07:43,933 --> 01:07:45,933 Speaker 2: It was one of the factors contributed to the Mount 1407 01:07:45,973 --> 01:07:49,813 Speaker 2: Erebus disaster. That's from mar Interesting Craig. You don't think 1408 01:07:49,893 --> 01:07:51,493 Speaker 2: that you can rely on tech. 1409 01:07:55,973 --> 01:08:03,893 Speaker 13: Okay, well far as close as yesterday without hunting and 1410 01:08:04,013 --> 01:08:12,373 Speaker 13: a area work one of the legends and something a 1411 01:08:12,413 --> 01:08:15,853 Speaker 13: man who was part of the thing up and tidying 1412 01:08:15,933 --> 01:08:23,812 Speaker 13: up if you like. The shooting respir twenty twelve because 1413 01:08:24,452 --> 01:08:29,333 Speaker 13: father Sharrazanne's done. So, yeah, they had all the check 1414 01:08:29,333 --> 01:08:37,933 Speaker 13: in the world. They had the equipment to identify not 1415 01:08:38,173 --> 01:08:43,692 Speaker 13: just through their popular if you like, but also through 1416 01:08:44,333 --> 01:08:48,133 Speaker 13: tech that identifies heat segmentures. 1417 01:08:50,133 --> 01:08:50,372 Speaker 17: Yeah. 1418 01:08:50,492 --> 01:08:53,812 Speaker 3: Right, So you think too many hunters out there are 1419 01:08:53,853 --> 01:08:57,652 Speaker 3: relying on tech that can obviously go sideways, that it's 1420 01:08:57,692 --> 01:09:00,053 Speaker 3: best to get your skill level up so you don't 1421 01:09:00,093 --> 01:09:03,053 Speaker 3: need to rely on that, which will arguably keep you safer. 1422 01:09:04,692 --> 01:09:09,772 Speaker 13: I think it's how important is it to you to 1423 01:09:09,853 --> 01:09:14,772 Speaker 13: take that shot. It's not You're not going to die 1424 01:09:14,812 --> 01:09:18,012 Speaker 13: if you don't take that shot. You know, so you're 1425 01:09:18,053 --> 01:09:21,492 Speaker 13: you're believing what you see in your optics, you're believing 1426 01:09:21,532 --> 01:09:26,572 Speaker 13: what you see with your tech and everything else. But 1427 01:09:27,093 --> 01:09:30,573 Speaker 13: we are still fired upon people that have a headlamp 1428 01:09:30,572 --> 01:09:37,052 Speaker 13: on mm hmm, people in campgrounds with a headlamp that's 1429 01:09:37,133 --> 01:09:43,732 Speaker 13: supplying a heat signature and a light signature that that 1430 01:09:43,933 --> 01:09:47,452 Speaker 13: basically tells us, yes, there's something that we can shoot at. 1431 01:09:48,492 --> 01:09:52,452 Speaker 13: That's been proven so far four times in New Zealand 1432 01:09:52,492 --> 01:09:57,053 Speaker 13: to be it's only four times. We can say it's 1433 01:09:57,053 --> 01:10:00,412 Speaker 13: only four times, but that's pretty cuge. But four times 1434 01:10:00,412 --> 01:10:02,612 Speaker 13: in New Zealand that's been enough for someone to take 1435 01:10:02,652 --> 01:10:03,052 Speaker 13: the shot. 1436 01:10:06,293 --> 01:10:12,212 Speaker 2: So yeah, there's a six year craig that's saying, always 1437 01:10:12,253 --> 01:10:13,972 Speaker 2: ask before you shoot? Is this a human? 1438 01:10:15,253 --> 01:10:15,412 Speaker 9: Is that? 1439 01:10:15,612 --> 01:10:15,772 Speaker 14: Is that? 1440 01:10:16,053 --> 01:10:18,253 Speaker 2: Is that enough of a test? 1441 01:10:19,853 --> 01:10:20,093 Speaker 17: No? 1442 01:10:20,652 --> 01:10:21,133 Speaker 16: Not for me. 1443 01:10:22,652 --> 01:10:25,652 Speaker 13: So okay, so I've been I've been shooting a long time. 1444 01:10:26,133 --> 01:10:28,333 Speaker 13: And the gentleman that I was having a discussion with 1445 01:10:28,452 --> 01:10:31,812 Speaker 13: on the weekend was actually there at the campground where 1446 01:10:32,853 --> 01:10:37,132 Speaker 13: that that woman was shot, and it was actually about 1447 01:10:38,293 --> 01:10:41,852 Speaker 13: what you what the shooter saw, and he was very 1448 01:10:41,933 --> 01:10:45,812 Speaker 13: adamant and he was buried and is right in his 1449 01:10:45,973 --> 01:10:51,853 Speaker 13: eyes take the shot. Was something looking back at him 1450 01:10:51,893 --> 01:10:56,652 Speaker 13: that had the shape of a deer. So he took 1451 01:10:56,692 --> 01:11:00,173 Speaker 13: the shot, and okay, that that's horrible. We know the 1452 01:11:00,213 --> 01:11:07,133 Speaker 13: consequences from that. I would question to myself, I will 1453 01:11:07,173 --> 01:11:10,372 Speaker 13: never ever take a shot unless I can see a head, 1454 01:11:10,772 --> 01:11:16,692 Speaker 13: a shoulder, outline behind and then then yeah, then I'm 1455 01:11:16,732 --> 01:11:19,772 Speaker 13: prepared to take the shot. It's like, okay, I guess 1456 01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:25,173 Speaker 13: I can see that, absolutely, ada, I'll take the shot. 1457 01:11:25,372 --> 01:11:28,372 Speaker 13: If you don't do that, you have not done target 1458 01:11:28,452 --> 01:11:32,692 Speaker 13: on enterprecation. And it's really I think that it's one 1459 01:11:32,692 --> 01:11:36,053 Speaker 13: of the things missing hugely worth a lot of a 1460 01:11:36,213 --> 01:11:39,572 Speaker 13: young hunters. And sorry, not a young hunters. I think 1461 01:11:39,612 --> 01:11:43,452 Speaker 13: our young hunters have learned already, but our older hunters 1462 01:11:43,893 --> 01:11:45,333 Speaker 13: probably need to get the hit around it. 1463 01:11:45,612 --> 01:11:47,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, Craig, thank you very much for giving us a buzz. 1464 01:11:47,933 --> 01:11:50,333 Speaker 3: Very interesting. Jason, you've done a lot of hunting yourself. 1465 01:11:51,532 --> 01:11:56,133 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, how are you? Oh yeah yeah, but talk 1466 01:11:56,173 --> 01:11:58,852 Speaker 6: about as better than the handing that I've done. It's 1467 01:11:58,893 --> 01:12:02,652 Speaker 6: not huge, but we'll have brought up hunting and the 1468 01:12:02,692 --> 01:12:05,532 Speaker 6: old man is dull into us, like, you don't have 1469 01:12:05,652 --> 01:12:08,293 Speaker 6: accedence with guns. He's like, if you're going to get 1470 01:12:08,173 --> 01:12:10,492 Speaker 6: out a fence, you slide the gun through and you 1471 01:12:10,532 --> 01:12:13,372 Speaker 6: go down one post and you hop over. If you're 1472 01:12:13,412 --> 01:12:16,173 Speaker 6: walking and it looks a bit slippery, you don't walk. Said, 1473 01:12:16,492 --> 01:12:19,733 Speaker 6: you have accidents with plates, and you you have accidents 1474 01:12:19,732 --> 01:12:22,012 Speaker 6: with other things, but you don't have accidents with guns. 1475 01:12:22,093 --> 01:12:25,492 Speaker 6: So we were never allowed to have an accident with 1476 01:12:25,612 --> 01:12:27,652 Speaker 6: a gun. We were never allowed to slip over or 1477 01:12:27,812 --> 01:12:30,452 Speaker 6: fall over. If we fell over with a gun, we're 1478 01:12:30,452 --> 01:12:32,973 Speaker 6: going to knack around the ears. You'd say, what the 1479 01:12:33,013 --> 01:12:34,213 Speaker 6: hell do you think you do it? 1480 01:12:34,253 --> 01:12:34,333 Speaker 23: So? 1481 01:12:34,412 --> 01:12:34,892 Speaker 21: Who was them? 1482 01:12:34,933 --> 01:12:35,333 Speaker 16: My fold? 1483 01:12:35,372 --> 01:12:35,932 Speaker 4: I fell over? 1484 01:12:36,093 --> 01:12:38,532 Speaker 6: He's like, no, you don't have accidents with guns. If 1485 01:12:38,532 --> 01:12:40,772 Speaker 6: you're going to fall over somewhere, you don't go there. 1486 01:12:41,893 --> 01:12:44,452 Speaker 6: You don't have accidents with guns ever, period, We weren't 1487 01:12:44,452 --> 01:12:47,652 Speaker 6: allowed to, and so we never ever did. And so 1488 01:12:48,173 --> 01:12:50,452 Speaker 6: you know, I haven't hunted with my brother for probably 1489 01:12:50,492 --> 01:12:53,213 Speaker 6: fifteen years, but we could both walk into a piece 1490 01:12:53,213 --> 01:12:55,892 Speaker 6: of bush tomorrow and we would never ever not know 1491 01:12:56,213 --> 01:12:57,932 Speaker 6: exactly where the other guy was. 1492 01:12:59,093 --> 01:13:02,133 Speaker 3: Interesting, So, I mean, for a lot of that, just. 1493 01:13:02,173 --> 01:13:04,652 Speaker 6: Like when yeah, when you're dealing with firearms, it has 1494 01:13:04,692 --> 01:13:06,572 Speaker 6: to be drawn into you. You can't just go out 1495 01:13:06,572 --> 01:13:08,652 Speaker 6: and learn. It's impossible. No one can do it. Not 1496 01:13:08,853 --> 01:13:10,812 Speaker 6: no one on the planet can do it. And here 1497 01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:15,013 Speaker 6: you are. You have to have an older, more experienced 1498 01:13:15,013 --> 01:13:17,093 Speaker 6: guide drill it into you, and drill it into you, 1499 01:13:17,173 --> 01:13:18,692 Speaker 6: and drill it into you. And that's how they do 1500 01:13:18,732 --> 01:13:19,492 Speaker 6: it in the army, right. 1501 01:13:20,333 --> 01:13:23,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, So as as rule three in the rule, then 1502 01:13:23,652 --> 01:13:27,173 Speaker 2: there's seven rules of firearms safety. Chamber of cartridge only 1503 01:13:27,213 --> 01:13:29,452 Speaker 2: when ready to fire. Is that something that's been drilled 1504 01:13:29,452 --> 01:13:31,412 Speaker 2: into you as well? And in terms of walking around 1505 01:13:31,412 --> 01:13:31,932 Speaker 2: on dat. 1506 01:13:32,933 --> 01:13:34,692 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean all that, that's all just half of 1507 01:13:34,772 --> 01:13:37,972 Speaker 6: the course. You weren't allowed to handle it around until 1508 01:13:38,492 --> 01:13:41,053 Speaker 6: you could see the animal or if you knew there 1509 01:13:41,093 --> 01:13:43,333 Speaker 6: was one right there, you can put the magazine in 1510 01:13:44,372 --> 01:13:46,572 Speaker 6: and then but you basically weren't allowed to shut the 1511 01:13:46,572 --> 01:13:48,173 Speaker 6: bolt until you were lined up on the animal. 1512 01:13:48,213 --> 01:13:51,532 Speaker 2: You know, even for a reposition Jason, if you just 1513 01:13:51,652 --> 01:13:52,452 Speaker 2: really knew. 1514 01:13:52,372 --> 01:13:54,692 Speaker 6: You were going to fire a shot, you knew you're 1515 01:13:54,692 --> 01:13:56,133 Speaker 6: going to fire a shot, you're allowed to put one 1516 01:13:56,133 --> 01:13:57,972 Speaker 6: on the mat and the and the spout. The vault 1517 01:13:57,973 --> 01:14:01,253 Speaker 6: wouldn't be shut right right, So you weren't allowed to 1518 01:14:01,293 --> 01:14:03,852 Speaker 6: shut the bolt until you're lined up on it. That 1519 01:14:04,013 --> 01:14:05,532 Speaker 6: you know, it depends what you're doing. If you're shooting 1520 01:14:05,532 --> 01:14:07,293 Speaker 6: goats and you're shooting a lot of mo well that's 1521 01:14:07,293 --> 01:14:11,932 Speaker 6: a little bit different because but you're still the guiding 1522 01:14:12,013 --> 01:14:14,772 Speaker 6: line was you're never allowed to have an accident, so 1523 01:14:15,612 --> 01:14:20,492 Speaker 6: you know, you you're always related on back to that 1524 01:14:20,933 --> 01:14:23,013 Speaker 6: when you close the bolt or when you put one 1525 01:14:23,053 --> 01:14:25,372 Speaker 6: on the spout. You know, like you wouldn't be walking 1526 01:14:25,412 --> 01:14:28,052 Speaker 6: around if there was stick some things on the ground 1527 01:14:29,652 --> 01:14:31,652 Speaker 6: with one on the spout. But you might sneak over 1528 01:14:31,692 --> 01:14:33,093 Speaker 6: the brow of a hill if you knew there were 1529 01:14:33,133 --> 01:14:34,852 Speaker 6: some animals on the other side, you might have one 1530 01:14:34,893 --> 01:14:36,812 Speaker 6: chamber with the vault knock shut. It would just depend 1531 01:14:36,853 --> 01:14:39,213 Speaker 6: on the situation. It's all different. There is no one rule. 1532 01:14:39,612 --> 01:14:42,692 Speaker 6: The rule is you don't have an accident with guns. Yeah, 1533 01:14:42,732 --> 01:14:45,372 Speaker 6: everything relates back to that. And like, honestly, if we 1534 01:14:45,412 --> 01:14:47,492 Speaker 6: had an accident, he would smack us around that, right 1535 01:14:47,532 --> 01:14:51,053 Speaker 6: around the side of it. It's gone and look at 1536 01:14:51,093 --> 01:14:53,972 Speaker 6: us and go, what the hell? You don't have accidents 1537 01:14:53,973 --> 01:14:54,333 Speaker 6: with gun? 1538 01:14:54,492 --> 01:14:54,652 Speaker 9: You know? 1539 01:14:54,933 --> 01:14:56,293 Speaker 16: Okay, we never ever did. 1540 01:14:56,853 --> 01:14:58,812 Speaker 3: Jason. It sounds like you were taught by the best 1541 01:14:58,812 --> 01:15:00,372 Speaker 3: and it makes a lot of sense. Thank you very 1542 01:15:00,452 --> 01:15:02,492 Speaker 3: much for giving us a bush. One hundred and eighty 1543 01:15:02,492 --> 01:15:03,812 Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call? 1544 01:15:03,893 --> 01:15:07,372 Speaker 2: It is eight to three, the issues that affect you, 1545 01:15:07,572 --> 01:15:09,093 Speaker 2: and a bit of along the way. 1546 01:15:09,333 --> 01:15:12,933 Speaker 1: Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News Talks, hebby. 1547 01:15:14,293 --> 01:15:18,052 Speaker 3: News Talks there b it is five two three. So Dean, 1548 01:15:18,412 --> 01:15:21,092 Speaker 3: we've got about sixty seconds. But you agree zero accidents 1549 01:15:21,093 --> 01:15:21,892 Speaker 3: when you've got a rifle. 1550 01:15:23,053 --> 01:15:24,053 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, absolutely. 1551 01:15:24,093 --> 01:15:26,772 Speaker 21: And it came to my grandfather, from my father right 1552 01:15:26,853 --> 01:15:29,133 Speaker 21: through and I mean zero, Like, don't even get point 1553 01:15:29,173 --> 01:15:31,372 Speaker 21: of the thing at someone and you're cleaning it and 1554 01:15:31,412 --> 01:15:35,132 Speaker 21: that's not the taught And that's the I've done hunting 1555 01:15:35,173 --> 01:15:37,852 Speaker 21: for everything in this country and the thermal imaging. I've 1556 01:15:37,853 --> 01:15:41,372 Speaker 21: done plenty of it. They shouldn't be shooting at like 1557 01:15:41,572 --> 01:15:43,772 Speaker 21: if you can't identify at one hundred percent and see 1558 01:15:43,772 --> 01:15:46,933 Speaker 21: the entire animal. It's just very simple and see a 1559 01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:48,093 Speaker 21: little spot. 1560 01:15:50,372 --> 01:15:53,253 Speaker 2: Oh, I think we've lost your dean unfortunately, But shall 1561 01:15:53,253 --> 01:15:55,293 Speaker 2: I just finish up by sharing those seven rules again 1562 01:15:55,333 --> 01:15:58,812 Speaker 2: plase firearm safety Rule one, treat every firearm as loaded. 1563 01:15:58,853 --> 01:16:01,652 Speaker 2: Rule two to always point firearms in a safe direction. 1564 01:16:01,732 --> 01:16:04,333 Speaker 2: Rule three. Chamber a cartridge only when ready to fire. 1565 01:16:04,692 --> 01:16:07,253 Speaker 2: Rule four. Identify your target beyond all doubt. Rule five. 1566 01:16:07,372 --> 01:16:11,133 Speaker 2: Check your firings. Rule six. Store and transport firearms and 1567 01:16:11,133 --> 01:16:16,773 Speaker 2: animission ammunition safely. Rule seven avoid alcohola drugs when handling firearms. 1568 01:16:16,772 --> 01:16:19,533 Speaker 3: Makes a lot of sense. Good rules and good discussion. 1569 01:16:19,612 --> 01:16:21,892 Speaker 3: Thank you very much to everyone who called and text. 1570 01:16:22,532 --> 01:16:25,173 Speaker 3: If you're hunting out there, stay safe. But coming up 1571 01:16:25,333 --> 01:16:28,132 Speaker 3: after three o'clock, we want to talk about Christmas trees. 1572 01:16:28,412 --> 01:16:30,812 Speaker 3: Seeing signs all over the shop for real Christmas trees 1573 01:16:30,812 --> 01:16:33,173 Speaker 3: for sale at the moment, and traditionally it is the 1574 01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:35,572 Speaker 3: first of December, so a lot of people put them 1575 01:16:35,692 --> 01:16:38,133 Speaker 3: up right now. It is twenty four days before the 1576 01:16:38,173 --> 01:16:40,932 Speaker 3: big event, so if you've wat your real Christmas tree 1577 01:16:41,013 --> 01:16:43,293 Speaker 3: up now, how the hell do you keep it going 1578 01:16:43,612 --> 01:16:46,173 Speaker 3: for another twenty four days? Love to hear from you 1579 01:16:46,253 --> 01:16:48,412 Speaker 3: on O eight under at eighty ten eighty. You can 1580 01:16:48,452 --> 01:16:51,572 Speaker 3: teach through nine two nine two. New Sport and Weather 1581 01:16:51,692 --> 01:16:54,452 Speaker 3: is fast approaching great debut company. As always, we'll be 1582 01:16:54,492 --> 01:16:55,412 Speaker 3: back shortly. 1583 01:16:56,893 --> 01:17:01,413 Speaker 1: Your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie 1584 01:17:01,452 --> 01:17:04,972 Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk Sevy. 1585 01:17:05,812 --> 01:17:09,412 Speaker 3: Very good afternoon to you. It is sir past three 1586 01:17:09,893 --> 01:17:13,333 Speaker 3: on Monday, the first of December. 1587 01:17:13,133 --> 01:17:15,612 Speaker 2: And this Texas says you can guarantee media will start 1588 01:17:15,692 --> 01:17:19,333 Speaker 2: Christmas talk too early and just keep escalating it. They 1589 01:17:19,333 --> 01:17:21,732 Speaker 2: do it as if there is no other news globally, 1590 01:17:21,772 --> 01:17:24,973 Speaker 2: despite incredible news daily from all around the world. Absolutely 1591 01:17:25,013 --> 01:17:28,493 Speaker 2: correct there, Rob, Yep, we are going to talk about Christmas. 1592 01:17:28,492 --> 01:17:30,412 Speaker 3: We're the first cab off the ram. We're going to 1593 01:17:30,492 --> 01:17:32,173 Speaker 3: get into an escalate Rob. 1594 01:17:32,372 --> 01:17:36,892 Speaker 2: It is December one, Robe in the spirits. We are 1595 01:17:36,933 --> 01:17:43,133 Speaker 2: the media and we're going to talk Christmas because December one, 1596 01:17:43,492 --> 01:17:45,572 Speaker 2: on the weekend, I saw a bunch of people buying 1597 01:17:45,612 --> 01:17:47,812 Speaker 2: Christmas trees. You come in too work this morning and 1598 01:17:47,853 --> 01:17:49,852 Speaker 2: everyone's telling me December one is the day you get 1599 01:17:49,853 --> 01:17:52,812 Speaker 2: a Christmas tree, And I'm thinking to myself, how can 1600 01:17:52,893 --> 01:17:56,013 Speaker 2: you keep a real Christmas tree going all the way 1601 01:17:56,013 --> 01:17:58,612 Speaker 2: to Christmas from December one? It's a good question twenty 1602 01:17:58,612 --> 01:18:00,612 Speaker 2: five days, twenty six because you need it going in 1603 01:18:00,652 --> 01:18:04,893 Speaker 2: Boxing day twenty seven, probably because you get rid of 1604 01:18:04,933 --> 01:18:06,812 Speaker 2: your Christmas tree around the twenty seventh, don't you. 1605 01:18:06,853 --> 01:18:07,053 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1606 01:18:07,093 --> 01:18:08,692 Speaker 2: I mean you've got to get rid of a before 1607 01:18:08,732 --> 01:18:10,812 Speaker 2: we go on holiday, otherwise you come back to a 1608 01:18:11,053 --> 01:18:15,213 Speaker 2: brown horror show that's bending over in a terrible state 1609 01:18:15,253 --> 01:18:15,652 Speaker 2: in the lounge. 1610 01:18:15,652 --> 01:18:16,972 Speaker 3: It's a fire risk at that point. 1611 01:18:17,732 --> 01:18:19,692 Speaker 2: It's actually really depressing when you come back from holiday 1612 01:18:19,732 --> 01:18:22,293 Speaker 2: and the Christmas trees up. So I think before you 1613 01:18:22,452 --> 01:18:24,652 Speaker 2: leave on your summer holiday, if you're staying over Christmas, 1614 01:18:24,652 --> 01:18:25,492 Speaker 2: you've got to get rid of the tree. 1615 01:18:25,572 --> 01:18:25,772 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1616 01:18:25,853 --> 01:18:27,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't think the tips open on Boxing Day, 1617 01:18:27,893 --> 01:18:29,572 Speaker 3: so that leaves you the twenty seventh, So that's a 1618 01:18:29,612 --> 01:18:30,173 Speaker 3: messive hark. 1619 01:18:30,253 --> 01:18:32,692 Speaker 2: So the point is people that are getting a real 1620 01:18:32,772 --> 01:18:35,692 Speaker 2: Christmas tree on December one and looking at a four 1621 01:18:35,732 --> 01:18:41,052 Speaker 2: week life span or zombie span for the Christmas tree. 1622 01:18:40,853 --> 01:18:43,173 Speaker 3: And I don't think it can be done genuinely. I 1623 01:18:43,253 --> 01:18:45,452 Speaker 3: just don't think you can make a tree last for 1624 01:18:45,532 --> 01:18:47,732 Speaker 3: twenty six days. I think there's definitely going to be 1625 01:18:47,772 --> 01:18:49,932 Speaker 3: some browning going on. There's going to be bits falling off. 1626 01:18:50,372 --> 01:18:53,933 Speaker 2: The six says artificial. Artificial need I say more go artificial. 1627 01:18:54,093 --> 01:18:58,173 Speaker 2: Taylor says, No, I don't think it's Christmas if there's 1628 01:18:58,173 --> 01:19:00,372 Speaker 2: an artificial tree. And I know this is a chat 1629 01:19:00,412 --> 01:19:02,692 Speaker 2: that's been going on for a very very long time, 1630 01:19:03,133 --> 01:19:08,092 Speaker 2: but aness, it is a chopped up pine tree, stinking 1631 01:19:08,093 --> 01:19:12,452 Speaker 2: out house and dropping needles everywhere. I don't think it's Christmas. 1632 01:19:12,572 --> 01:19:14,612 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If 1633 01:19:14,652 --> 01:19:17,253 Speaker 3: you've set your Christmas tree up, you've gone reel the 1634 01:19:17,333 --> 01:19:19,492 Speaker 3: real deal. What are you doing to make sure it 1635 01:19:19,572 --> 01:19:22,013 Speaker 3: lasts until at least the big day, if not a 1636 01:19:22,013 --> 01:19:22,692 Speaker 3: little bit longer. 1637 01:19:23,053 --> 01:19:25,612 Speaker 2: Hey, I see you're talking about Christmas trees. We are 1638 01:19:25,692 --> 01:19:30,972 Speaker 2: a new North Canterbury family bus renting live Christmas trees 1639 01:19:31,013 --> 01:19:34,772 Speaker 2: this year. Something a bit different merrytrees dot co dot 1640 01:19:34,812 --> 01:19:38,452 Speaker 2: in Z. So that's a live Christmas tree. So do 1641 01:19:38,492 --> 01:19:40,133 Speaker 2: you come around and you drop it off in a pot? 1642 01:19:40,173 --> 01:19:42,133 Speaker 2: Because I was wondering if you can do this? It 1643 01:19:42,253 --> 01:19:43,972 Speaker 2: just struck me the other day. It seems so obvious, 1644 01:19:43,973 --> 01:19:46,333 Speaker 2: But you could have a Christmas tree like a pine tree. 1645 01:19:46,412 --> 01:19:48,532 Speaker 2: How long can they live in pots for? Because could 1646 01:19:48,532 --> 01:19:50,013 Speaker 2: you just have it sitting in a pot in your 1647 01:19:50,053 --> 01:19:54,132 Speaker 2: backyard and every year you carry it in and decorate 1648 01:19:54,173 --> 01:19:55,532 Speaker 2: it and then carry it back out again. 1649 01:19:55,612 --> 01:19:57,013 Speaker 3: You must be able to because I've just had a 1650 01:19:57,013 --> 01:19:59,812 Speaker 3: look at these guys merrytrees dot co, dot z. So 1651 01:19:59,933 --> 01:20:02,333 Speaker 3: how it works. Sign up, choose a tree and let 1652 01:20:02,333 --> 01:20:03,812 Speaker 3: Mary Trees take care of the rest. 1653 01:20:03,812 --> 01:20:04,052 Speaker 4: Though. 1654 01:20:04,333 --> 01:20:06,973 Speaker 3: Then from the first of December, the trees delivered to 1655 01:20:06,973 --> 01:20:09,333 Speaker 3: your door, ready to decorate in an joy. And then 1656 01:20:09,372 --> 01:20:11,973 Speaker 3: on the thirtieth they pick it back up again. I 1657 01:20:12,053 --> 01:20:14,253 Speaker 3: assume plant it and then you can rent out that 1658 01:20:14,253 --> 01:20:15,532 Speaker 3: same tree again next year. 1659 01:20:16,692 --> 01:20:19,372 Speaker 2: Right, So hang in a minute, how do. 1660 01:20:19,333 --> 01:20:21,812 Speaker 3: You know it's the same tree? They could say it's 1661 01:20:21,853 --> 01:20:26,293 Speaker 3: the same tree, but they replant it. And it taught 1662 01:20:26,333 --> 01:20:29,372 Speaker 3: me through this this work time. So sign up and 1663 01:20:29,372 --> 01:20:31,692 Speaker 3: then choose a tree. So they must have pictures of trees, 1664 01:20:31,692 --> 01:20:33,612 Speaker 3: I imagine, and you say I want that one. Then 1665 01:20:33,692 --> 01:20:36,452 Speaker 3: from the first to December, the tree will be delivered 1666 01:20:36,452 --> 01:20:38,892 Speaker 3: to your door. Yes, ready to decorate and enjoy. They 1667 01:20:38,933 --> 01:20:41,812 Speaker 3: say then we'll pick up your tree after Christmas and 1668 01:20:41,853 --> 01:20:44,133 Speaker 3: you can rent that same tree again next year. 1669 01:20:44,213 --> 01:20:46,732 Speaker 2: But won't that same tree be significantly bigger next year? 1670 01:20:47,053 --> 01:20:48,293 Speaker 3: Well, they say, yeah, that's a good point. 1671 01:20:48,333 --> 01:20:51,293 Speaker 2: So eventually, if you keep renting it for five years, 1672 01:20:51,333 --> 01:20:52,892 Speaker 2: you're going to have to smash a hole in your roof. 1673 01:20:53,492 --> 01:20:55,572 Speaker 3: Dear text, we want to chat. We've got more questions 1674 01:20:55,572 --> 01:20:57,253 Speaker 3: about the system you got going on here. It is 1675 01:20:57,333 --> 01:21:00,012 Speaker 3: home style, Yeah, I wait under it eight ten eighty. 1676 01:21:00,572 --> 01:21:02,572 Speaker 3: So if you've gone real tree and you've set it 1677 01:21:02,652 --> 01:21:04,333 Speaker 3: up ready to go on the first of December, I 1678 01:21:04,412 --> 01:21:05,053 Speaker 3: love to hear from you. 1679 01:21:05,173 --> 01:21:07,572 Speaker 2: Josh says. If you don't have a brown curled over 1680 01:21:07,652 --> 01:21:10,852 Speaker 2: Christmas tree on Christmas Day, you're not a Kiwi. I 1681 01:21:10,853 --> 01:21:12,812 Speaker 2: mean that's a good point. I mean does the Christmas 1682 01:21:12,812 --> 01:21:14,892 Speaker 2: tree have to remain in good shape? 1683 01:21:15,213 --> 01:21:16,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. 1684 01:21:16,213 --> 01:21:19,133 Speaker 2: Or is it kind of on its way out by 1685 01:21:19,173 --> 01:21:20,333 Speaker 2: the time the big day comes around? 1686 01:21:20,572 --> 01:21:22,732 Speaker 3: Come on through. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is 1687 01:21:22,772 --> 01:21:25,772 Speaker 3: that number to call? It's eleven bus three is talk said? 1688 01:21:26,333 --> 01:21:29,293 Speaker 3: Thirteen past three? The first of December, the day that 1689 01:21:29,372 --> 01:21:32,612 Speaker 3: many Kiwis get their Christmas tree, real Christmas tree up 1690 01:21:32,772 --> 01:21:34,893 Speaker 3: and going. The question puts you is how do you 1691 01:21:35,013 --> 01:21:37,372 Speaker 3: keep it going for another at least twenty four days? 1692 01:21:37,532 --> 01:21:40,213 Speaker 3: Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number? To call? 1693 01:21:40,692 --> 01:21:41,732 Speaker 2: Lez Welcome to the show. 1694 01:21:43,372 --> 01:21:48,293 Speaker 23: Yeah, hi guys, how are you doing very well? Good listen? 1695 01:21:48,652 --> 01:21:51,293 Speaker 23: I have your solution to your Christmas tree problem there 1696 01:21:51,692 --> 01:21:56,092 Speaker 23: from Levin And we have a place here called Potard. 1697 01:21:56,692 --> 01:22:01,293 Speaker 23: It's pott d where you buy a live Christmas tree 1698 01:22:01,333 --> 01:22:05,372 Speaker 23: and a pot and you have it in your loans 1699 01:22:05,692 --> 01:22:09,053 Speaker 23: for Christmas, pick it out on the garden somewhere or 1700 01:22:09,053 --> 01:22:10,892 Speaker 23: in the lawn and bring it in for the next 1701 01:22:10,933 --> 01:22:11,813 Speaker 23: ten years. 1702 01:22:12,772 --> 01:22:13,412 Speaker 3: So how does that? 1703 01:22:13,452 --> 01:22:13,532 Speaker 9: So? 1704 01:22:13,652 --> 01:22:15,812 Speaker 3: Say that again? So you buy it potted, then you 1705 01:22:15,853 --> 01:22:17,492 Speaker 3: put it out in the garden and you just what 1706 01:22:17,652 --> 01:22:19,652 Speaker 3: you bring it in each Christmas time and then back 1707 01:22:19,692 --> 01:22:20,492 Speaker 3: out into the garden. 1708 01:22:21,772 --> 01:22:22,652 Speaker 23: That's correct there? 1709 01:22:23,812 --> 01:22:25,852 Speaker 2: And does it get Is it getting bigger every year? 1710 01:22:26,133 --> 01:22:30,053 Speaker 23: Liz, I'll be gibing it slightly bigger. But they don't 1711 01:22:30,053 --> 01:22:30,852 Speaker 23: grow that quickly. 1712 01:22:32,612 --> 01:22:34,293 Speaker 3: So does it survive in the pot? Do you not 1713 01:22:34,372 --> 01:22:35,452 Speaker 3: need to dig it into the ground. 1714 01:22:36,812 --> 01:22:38,012 Speaker 16: No, it's just in the pot. 1715 01:22:38,452 --> 01:22:41,213 Speaker 23: And to go online that to go on line to 1716 01:22:41,293 --> 01:22:45,732 Speaker 23: Pottard p O T T D and you'll find out 1717 01:22:45,812 --> 01:22:48,172 Speaker 23: all the things they've got there. It's a really good system. 1718 01:22:48,853 --> 01:22:52,012 Speaker 2: So a pine tree can exist in a pot forever. 1719 01:22:54,013 --> 01:22:55,293 Speaker 23: Well I don't know about forever. 1720 01:22:55,893 --> 01:22:58,852 Speaker 2: Well well, well not forever, I mean not for not 1721 01:22:58,893 --> 01:23:03,133 Speaker 2: for a billion years, but for it'll quite happily live 1722 01:23:03,173 --> 01:23:05,412 Speaker 2: in a pot. I didn't know that. See, this seems 1723 01:23:05,452 --> 01:23:06,492 Speaker 2: like the ultimate. 1724 01:23:06,093 --> 01:23:10,852 Speaker 23: Solution, absolutely the ultimate solution, because. 1725 01:23:10,612 --> 01:23:12,452 Speaker 2: Because then you don't even have to worry about balancing 1726 01:23:12,452 --> 01:23:14,412 Speaker 2: it with that punishing new thing you've got. With this, 1727 01:23:14,853 --> 01:23:16,692 Speaker 2: you know, when you're screwing the bolts in and trying 1728 01:23:16,692 --> 01:23:18,893 Speaker 2: to balance your tree and putting. 1729 01:23:18,572 --> 01:23:20,692 Speaker 3: Water in there, a bit of sugar, you. 1730 01:23:20,812 --> 01:23:22,852 Speaker 2: Just you just put it somewhere in your yard and 1731 01:23:22,893 --> 01:23:25,213 Speaker 2: you bring it in once a year. This is blood. 1732 01:23:25,333 --> 01:23:29,933 Speaker 23: This is great, and it'll have the those care directions 1733 01:23:29,973 --> 01:23:31,973 Speaker 23: I presume when you get it. 1734 01:23:32,213 --> 01:23:35,093 Speaker 3: I've just had a look at the the Potted website. 1735 01:23:35,213 --> 01:23:38,053 Speaker 3: They've got some good looking trees. The Fergus is sold out, 1736 01:23:38,293 --> 01:23:41,612 Speaker 3: that's lovely. The Norman. The Norman is like some sort 1737 01:23:41,692 --> 01:23:44,133 Speaker 3: of mutant Christmas tree. But I could see some people 1738 01:23:44,173 --> 01:23:48,173 Speaker 3: liking that. The Turk looks almost dead already. You pay 1739 01:23:48,293 --> 01:23:49,532 Speaker 3: decent price for it, though. 1740 01:23:49,572 --> 01:23:53,412 Speaker 23: Liz, well, how long do you want it for? You 1741 01:23:53,452 --> 01:23:54,733 Speaker 23: pay every year otherwise? 1742 01:23:55,053 --> 01:23:55,293 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1743 01:23:55,333 --> 01:23:58,133 Speaker 2: And the other thing is, Liz, So I was moving 1744 01:23:58,133 --> 01:24:01,132 Speaker 2: out of a house recently and I found five Christmas 1745 01:24:01,133 --> 01:24:04,412 Speaker 2: trees that I'd thrown down beside a fence around behind 1746 01:24:04,412 --> 01:24:06,133 Speaker 2: a shed every year. I threw one on top of 1747 01:24:06,173 --> 01:24:09,133 Speaker 2: the other one, and the bottom one is still holding 1748 01:24:09,173 --> 01:24:12,372 Speaker 2: its full shape. It's very brown, but they're hard to 1749 01:24:13,133 --> 01:24:15,972 Speaker 2: they don't decompose fully. That takes a very very long time. 1750 01:24:16,293 --> 01:24:17,932 Speaker 2: So you know, you're buying a new tree every year 1751 01:24:17,973 --> 01:24:19,652 Speaker 2: and hiding it somewhere in new yard anyway, so you 1752 01:24:19,692 --> 01:24:21,732 Speaker 2: might as well get a potted one and take that 1753 01:24:21,812 --> 01:24:25,293 Speaker 2: space up and you know, win win win. 1754 01:24:26,732 --> 01:24:28,412 Speaker 23: Absolutely, keep it out of the landfill. 1755 01:24:28,652 --> 01:24:30,692 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, thank you so much, Liz. Keep it 1756 01:24:30,692 --> 01:24:31,333 Speaker 2: out of the recycling. 1757 01:24:31,372 --> 01:24:35,612 Speaker 3: But potted'st yeah, oh, one hundred and eighty t and eighty. 1758 01:24:35,692 --> 01:24:37,732 Speaker 3: Because that is a fair question is for those that 1759 01:24:37,732 --> 01:24:40,812 Speaker 3: don't do the potted experience, how do you get ready 1760 01:24:40,812 --> 01:24:43,293 Speaker 3: of a Christmas tree? You can't use them as firewood, though, 1761 01:24:43,333 --> 01:24:45,213 Speaker 3: can you? If you let them just dry out for 1762 01:24:45,253 --> 01:24:47,252 Speaker 3: a couple of years, can you chop them up for forwood? 1763 01:24:47,652 --> 01:24:48,053 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1764 01:24:48,253 --> 01:24:49,093 Speaker 2: I don't see why not. 1765 01:24:49,293 --> 01:24:53,293 Speaker 3: I suppose you could? Well you bonfire in the backyard texts. 1766 01:24:53,893 --> 01:24:55,933 Speaker 3: The text number is nine two nine too. If you 1767 01:24:55,933 --> 01:24:57,133 Speaker 3: want to see the text. 1768 01:24:57,013 --> 01:24:58,532 Speaker 2: Can't you just go down? So surely you can just 1769 01:24:58,532 --> 01:25:01,932 Speaker 2: go down to a garden center then and buy a 1770 01:25:01,973 --> 01:25:05,452 Speaker 2: pine tree and a pot. Yeah, you do it once, 1771 01:25:05,732 --> 01:25:06,892 Speaker 2: and if it stays in the pot, it's not going 1772 01:25:06,933 --> 01:25:09,732 Speaker 2: to grow that much because it's restricted by how biggest 1773 01:25:09,812 --> 01:25:11,372 Speaker 2: roots can go. Well, why am I only just hearing 1774 01:25:11,372 --> 01:25:14,092 Speaker 2: about this ultimate solution to the Christmas tree dilemma? 1775 01:25:14,213 --> 01:25:16,293 Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh, eight hundred eighty and eighty if you do 1776 01:25:16,333 --> 01:25:18,372 Speaker 3: the old potted Christmas tree. Love to hear from you. 1777 01:25:18,692 --> 01:25:21,492 Speaker 3: It is seventeen past three. Back very shortly. 1778 01:25:21,853 --> 01:25:24,253 Speaker 2: John says, seriously, guys, I've been giving my tree for 1779 01:25:24,293 --> 01:25:28,412 Speaker 2: the past few years with great results. This is my recipe. 1780 01:25:28,732 --> 01:25:31,812 Speaker 2: I crush up a couple of viagaras with some liquid 1781 01:25:31,812 --> 01:25:36,213 Speaker 2: seaweed and put it in the in the in the 1782 01:25:36,253 --> 01:25:37,452 Speaker 2: po pot with the tree. 1783 01:25:37,572 --> 01:25:39,372 Speaker 3: Interesting, what do you say to the doctor when you 1784 01:25:39,412 --> 01:25:43,333 Speaker 3: need a wee prescription? It's for my Christmas tree, you're likely, story, Joel. 1785 01:25:43,492 --> 01:25:49,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what is your Christmas tree? 1786 01:25:50,372 --> 01:25:53,732 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred 1787 01:25:53,812 --> 01:25:56,892 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB twenty past three. 1788 01:25:57,213 --> 01:25:59,852 Speaker 2: There has to be a catch for this, this solution 1789 01:26:00,452 --> 01:26:02,253 Speaker 2: of the potted pine tree that you used to take 1790 01:26:02,293 --> 01:26:05,692 Speaker 2: in and out, leave it outside for eleven months a year, 1791 01:26:05,732 --> 01:26:06,892 Speaker 2: and then you bring it in. You leave it in 1792 01:26:06,893 --> 01:26:08,173 Speaker 2: a corner of a garden, and then you bring it 1793 01:26:08,213 --> 01:26:09,612 Speaker 2: in and then you get the pine tree and the 1794 01:26:09,652 --> 01:26:11,452 Speaker 2: pine smell and the real Christmas tree. 1795 01:26:11,492 --> 01:26:12,693 Speaker 3: There's got to be a catch. 1796 01:26:12,692 --> 01:26:16,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the Bilsa's being in a pot slows its 1797 01:26:16,053 --> 01:26:19,213 Speaker 2: growth because the roots can't spread. Therefore the tree always 1798 01:26:19,532 --> 01:26:22,572 Speaker 2: stays about the same size. But it's going to be 1799 01:26:22,572 --> 01:26:25,732 Speaker 2: a lot. Well, the stick's a kerry. She seys. Pine 1800 01:26:25,732 --> 01:26:28,612 Speaker 2: trees will survive anywhere if they have roots. They're weeds. 1801 01:26:29,093 --> 01:26:31,932 Speaker 2: And someone else says that there's bon si pine trees 1802 01:26:31,973 --> 01:26:33,812 Speaker 2: that have been in pots for hundreds of years. 1803 01:26:33,893 --> 01:26:34,812 Speaker 3: I love a good Bonzeye. 1804 01:26:35,492 --> 01:26:37,253 Speaker 2: It's a bit Christmas tree that just wants to sell 1805 01:26:37,333 --> 01:26:39,412 Speaker 2: you a new tree every year. Been trying to shut 1806 01:26:39,412 --> 01:26:39,812 Speaker 2: this down. 1807 01:26:40,013 --> 01:26:42,133 Speaker 3: I think we've opened up a conspiracy here. Oh eight 1808 01:26:42,133 --> 01:26:43,892 Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighties and number to call 1809 01:26:44,053 --> 01:26:51,133 Speaker 3: get a Jennifer, Hey, Jennifer, Jennifer, Oh, she just dropped off. 1810 01:26:51,213 --> 01:26:55,093 Speaker 3: Let's try July, Julie, Oh goodness. 1811 01:26:54,652 --> 01:26:58,412 Speaker 24: And the gentlemen. Now you're actually leading people up the 1812 01:26:58,452 --> 01:27:01,652 Speaker 24: garden pass a little bit. Pardon the pun, but if 1813 01:27:01,732 --> 01:27:04,213 Speaker 24: you've got a tree and a pot, you do have 1814 01:27:04,333 --> 01:27:07,053 Speaker 24: to water it, you do have to look after it. 1815 01:27:07,492 --> 01:27:10,812 Speaker 24: I've got a tree, it's a spruce, and it's over 1816 01:27:10,933 --> 01:27:14,333 Speaker 24: forty years old, and it's in nothing more than a 1817 01:27:14,333 --> 01:27:18,173 Speaker 24: plastic garbage tint drum. You're a plastic one. And I 1818 01:27:18,973 --> 01:27:21,812 Speaker 24: take it out every now and then and root, prune 1819 01:27:21,853 --> 01:27:25,572 Speaker 24: it and it keep a little bit clipped, and give 1820 01:27:25,612 --> 01:27:29,972 Speaker 24: it a bit of lovely stuff that it likes to eat, 1821 01:27:30,053 --> 01:27:32,812 Speaker 24: like blood and bone and stuff. But you do you 1822 01:27:32,893 --> 01:27:36,852 Speaker 24: can't just grab a pine tree. Pine tree is you're 1823 01:27:36,893 --> 01:27:41,492 Speaker 24: actually saying pine tree. It's a variety of trees that 1824 01:27:41,572 --> 01:27:44,572 Speaker 24: you can use. As I said, mine's a spruce, but 1825 01:27:45,293 --> 01:27:48,892 Speaker 24: pine tree they do need to be watered and looked after, 1826 01:27:49,452 --> 01:27:51,452 Speaker 24: otherwise they will pop their cloths. 1827 01:27:51,692 --> 01:27:53,532 Speaker 2: How often you how much work you're putting in in 1828 01:27:53,572 --> 01:27:56,293 Speaker 2: the year, in the non Christmas time, Julie. 1829 01:27:56,933 --> 01:28:00,892 Speaker 24: Well, you can't say how much work are you're putting in, 1830 01:28:00,973 --> 01:28:05,333 Speaker 24: you're not putting it. If it's winter time and it's raining, 1831 01:28:05,372 --> 01:28:08,013 Speaker 24: you pretty well rite. But in the summer time you 1832 01:28:08,053 --> 01:28:11,253 Speaker 24: do have to water them regularly otherwise they will die. 1833 01:28:11,933 --> 01:28:15,052 Speaker 24: And it's like anything, they need a bit of water, 1834 01:28:15,612 --> 01:28:18,333 Speaker 24: So yeah, it does. 1835 01:28:18,532 --> 01:28:20,333 Speaker 18: It is a bit like that. 1836 01:28:20,853 --> 01:28:23,892 Speaker 24: It's like if you've got pop plants or anything, you 1837 01:28:23,933 --> 01:28:25,053 Speaker 24: do have to water them. 1838 01:28:25,133 --> 01:28:25,812 Speaker 21: So if it's a. 1839 01:28:25,893 --> 01:28:30,892 Speaker 24: Potted tree, you do have to water it. So yeah, 1840 01:28:31,293 --> 01:28:34,852 Speaker 24: I can't. You can't give how much time you spend. 1841 01:28:35,053 --> 01:28:37,213 Speaker 24: How much do you value your tree? Do you want 1842 01:28:37,213 --> 01:28:39,173 Speaker 24: to keep it or do you not? You don't want 1843 01:28:39,213 --> 01:28:46,012 Speaker 24: to keep it, don't water it? It will die. But yeah, 1844 01:28:46,692 --> 01:28:48,652 Speaker 24: if you turring them and look at them. 1845 01:28:48,772 --> 01:28:51,652 Speaker 2: So mine is a given year. Is that as much 1846 01:28:51,692 --> 01:28:54,612 Speaker 2: work as once a year going down to a Christmas 1847 01:28:54,652 --> 01:28:58,012 Speaker 2: tree shop, grabbing the Christmas tree, bring it home, putting 1848 01:28:58,053 --> 01:29:01,253 Speaker 2: it up, and then disposing of it afterwards and cleaning 1849 01:29:01,333 --> 01:29:03,053 Speaker 2: up the needles. Is it more or less work than that? 1850 01:29:05,013 --> 01:29:06,053 Speaker 5: You've got to look after it. 1851 01:29:06,293 --> 01:29:06,732 Speaker 21: You've got to. 1852 01:29:07,013 --> 01:29:09,213 Speaker 24: It's like having a dog and not given him anything. 1853 01:29:09,253 --> 01:29:12,452 Speaker 24: Do your drink? What's going to do? It's going to die? Right, 1854 01:29:12,933 --> 01:29:15,612 Speaker 24: So if you want if you if you paid a 1855 01:29:15,652 --> 01:29:18,173 Speaker 24: lot for the tree to start with, you need to 1856 01:29:18,213 --> 01:29:18,972 Speaker 24: look after it. 1857 01:29:19,093 --> 01:29:21,253 Speaker 2: What what about a Christmas dog that you bring in a 1858 01:29:21,293 --> 01:29:24,572 Speaker 2: dead Christmas dog? And you I mean, I don't quite 1859 01:29:24,612 --> 01:29:24,892 Speaker 2: get the. 1860 01:29:24,812 --> 01:29:28,052 Speaker 3: Dog thing, but you're right, there's a lot of man hours. 1861 01:29:28,053 --> 01:29:29,492 Speaker 3: So if you try and break it down. 1862 01:29:29,532 --> 01:29:32,093 Speaker 2: If you get a dog, just get a new ded 1863 01:29:32,133 --> 01:29:35,012 Speaker 2: dog once a year and put it up in your house. 1864 01:29:35,093 --> 01:29:37,652 Speaker 3: Put them in a pot, water the once a day. 1865 01:29:37,933 --> 01:29:39,612 Speaker 3: But you're right, the man hours, so if you try 1866 01:29:39,652 --> 01:29:41,732 Speaker 3: and calculate how many man hours it would take to 1867 01:29:42,013 --> 01:29:42,372 Speaker 3: I just. 1868 01:29:42,293 --> 01:29:44,133 Speaker 2: Wanted an answer from Julie whether it was going to 1869 01:29:44,173 --> 01:29:46,933 Speaker 2: be you know, once a week, once a month, you 1870 01:29:46,973 --> 01:29:48,812 Speaker 2: have to go out of water at a what yep, 1871 01:29:49,412 --> 01:29:51,492 Speaker 2: Peter your thoughts on this. 1872 01:29:53,013 --> 01:29:55,892 Speaker 20: I'm assuming that this is a little sapling that goes 1873 01:29:55,933 --> 01:29:58,492 Speaker 20: into a box. Who the hell do you put the faery, 1874 01:29:58,612 --> 01:30:03,173 Speaker 20: the angel, the lights, the bull bulls want to crack 1875 01:30:03,253 --> 01:30:06,532 Speaker 20: Christmas until next year? A little bit. 1876 01:30:08,652 --> 01:30:10,612 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. So you have ten years 1877 01:30:10,612 --> 01:30:14,293 Speaker 2: of crap presences till it gets up to that, to 1878 01:30:14,372 --> 01:30:15,253 Speaker 2: a reasonable height. 1879 01:30:16,853 --> 01:30:21,293 Speaker 20: These people feed at sugar, honey, do this? What waste 1880 01:30:21,492 --> 01:30:22,213 Speaker 20: bloody time? 1881 01:30:23,013 --> 01:30:25,812 Speaker 2: What about this? What about speaking of getting it to 1882 01:30:26,412 --> 01:30:28,293 Speaker 2: the correct height quick enough. What do you think about 1883 01:30:28,293 --> 01:30:30,173 Speaker 2: this guy that's texted and saying that he crushes up 1884 01:30:30,173 --> 01:30:33,053 Speaker 2: a viagara and with the Christmas tree? Do you think 1885 01:30:33,053 --> 01:30:33,812 Speaker 2: that would help. 1886 01:30:35,772 --> 01:30:37,053 Speaker 20: Last all year? 1887 01:30:37,213 --> 01:30:37,492 Speaker 24: Right? 1888 01:30:37,732 --> 01:30:38,932 Speaker 20: Yeah? 1889 01:30:39,093 --> 01:30:43,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, before one time and then it's it's good to go. 1890 01:30:43,492 --> 01:30:44,692 Speaker 3: So maybe there's something in there. 1891 01:30:46,933 --> 01:30:52,452 Speaker 20: I just this is funny. That's funny, funny, funny, but yeah, 1892 01:30:52,652 --> 01:30:55,372 Speaker 20: you just forget it. Just a fake tree or a 1893 01:30:55,412 --> 01:30:58,412 Speaker 20: shitty old tree that's gonna die. 1894 01:30:58,812 --> 01:31:00,293 Speaker 2: But hanging a minute, what are you doing with your 1895 01:31:00,293 --> 01:31:03,173 Speaker 2: trees afterwards? That's that's that's the problem. You get, You 1896 01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:05,732 Speaker 2: get your fake tree and then next you know, and look, 1897 01:31:05,732 --> 01:31:07,732 Speaker 2: there's these people that say that they'll pick them up, 1898 01:31:07,893 --> 01:31:11,732 Speaker 2: but they do they pick them up. They say they're 1899 01:31:11,732 --> 01:31:12,973 Speaker 2: going to pick up but the only time they can 1900 01:31:13,253 --> 01:31:15,973 Speaker 2: pick them up is exactly when you're on holiday and 1901 01:31:16,013 --> 01:31:18,372 Speaker 2: out of town, and then they can't get it. Yeah, yeah, 1902 01:31:18,412 --> 01:31:19,372 Speaker 2: all right, thank you, Peter. 1903 01:31:19,652 --> 01:31:22,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, good call. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 1904 01:31:22,253 --> 01:31:24,093 Speaker 3: the number to call. Love to hear from you. If 1905 01:31:24,133 --> 01:31:25,892 Speaker 3: you go real tree, how do you keep it alive? 1906 01:31:26,013 --> 01:31:28,612 Speaker 3: Or you into this potted tree business? And is there 1907 01:31:28,612 --> 01:31:30,692 Speaker 3: a catch there must be a catch. Nine two ninety 1908 01:31:30,692 --> 01:31:32,612 Speaker 3: two is the text number as well. 1909 01:31:33,133 --> 01:31:35,053 Speaker 2: Vinnie says, Hi, boys, I cut one out of the 1910 01:31:35,093 --> 01:31:38,852 Speaker 2: town bout reserve every year. Wilding pines are a pest anyway, 1911 01:31:38,893 --> 01:31:40,652 Speaker 2: So I find a good one and from it throughout 1912 01:31:40,652 --> 01:31:43,253 Speaker 2: the year. So it's the perfect shape. This year's one 1913 01:31:43,372 --> 01:31:43,892 Speaker 2: is a beauty. 1914 01:31:43,973 --> 01:31:44,173 Speaker 16: Yeah. 1915 01:31:44,173 --> 01:31:45,652 Speaker 3: If you like Vinnie, love to hear from you. Oh 1916 01:31:45,732 --> 01:31:47,253 Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty. 1917 01:31:47,372 --> 01:31:49,972 Speaker 2: So he's stealing for the Christmas season. 1918 01:31:49,973 --> 01:31:52,372 Speaker 3: Good on, Yeah, it is twenty seven past three. 1919 01:31:53,652 --> 01:31:55,732 Speaker 1: News Talk said the headlines with. 1920 01:31:55,772 --> 01:31:58,812 Speaker 14: Blue Bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble. 1921 01:31:59,293 --> 01:32:02,732 Speaker 14: The Auditor Generals confirm the Public Service Commissions getting an 1922 01:32:02,772 --> 01:32:07,653 Speaker 14: external review of its social media posts relating to October's 1923 01:32:07,732 --> 01:32:11,933 Speaker 14: mass strike action. 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A nineteen year old has been arrested at 1931 01:32:39,412 --> 01:32:44,253 Speaker 14: the border arriving from Vancouver yesterday accused of importing meth, 1932 01:32:44,732 --> 01:32:49,692 Speaker 14: allegedly carrying more than fifteen kilos in check luggage. New 1933 01:32:49,772 --> 01:32:52,693 Speaker 14: Zealand who has been free of mbovas for two consecutive 1934 01:32:52,732 --> 01:32:56,492 Speaker 14: spring carving seasons, giving hope we can fully eradicate the 1935 01:32:56,532 --> 01:33:01,652 Speaker 14: cattle disease that requires no cases for five years. Best 1936 01:33:01,692 --> 01:33:04,852 Speaker 14: reality in New Zealand, all the figures and a forensic 1937 01:33:04,973 --> 01:33:08,133 Speaker 14: psychologist on how to treat it. Read more at enzid 1938 01:33:08,173 --> 01:33:11,572 Speaker 14: Hell Premium. Mack Nolton, Matt Eathan Tiner Adams. 1939 01:33:11,173 --> 01:33:13,772 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylean. So we are talking about 1940 01:33:13,853 --> 01:33:16,412 Speaker 3: Christmas trees. If you're going real and you've set it up, 1941 01:33:16,452 --> 01:33:19,612 Speaker 3: it's the first of December, how do you keep it going? 1942 01:33:19,772 --> 01:33:20,772 Speaker 3: And saw the twenty fifth? 1943 01:33:20,893 --> 01:33:22,892 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the ultimate Christmas tree hack seems to have 1944 01:33:22,933 --> 01:33:25,173 Speaker 2: come through. You keep one in a pot in the 1945 01:33:25,253 --> 01:33:27,133 Speaker 2: yard and bring it in for a month every year 1946 01:33:27,173 --> 01:33:28,852 Speaker 2: and then put it back out there. But Julie says 1947 01:33:28,893 --> 01:33:31,133 Speaker 2: you've got to put some work into it. She won't 1948 01:33:31,173 --> 01:33:34,412 Speaker 2: say how much. She will not engage me. She would 1949 01:33:34,412 --> 01:33:36,933 Speaker 2: not engage me in the amount of man hours that 1950 01:33:37,013 --> 01:33:37,692 Speaker 2: needs to go into it. 1951 01:33:37,772 --> 01:33:38,412 Speaker 3: She wouldn't have it. 1952 01:33:38,532 --> 01:33:40,852 Speaker 2: But here's a unique solution. Cut a hole in your 1953 01:33:40,893 --> 01:33:43,892 Speaker 2: lounge floor and plant it when it reaches the ceilings 1954 01:33:43,933 --> 01:33:47,813 Speaker 2: cell the house. See that's the kind of number eight fencing. 1955 01:33:47,893 --> 01:33:51,253 Speaker 2: Why key, we can do attitude. Yeah, that solves problems. 1956 01:33:51,293 --> 01:33:52,813 Speaker 2: That is some thinking. Absolutely. 1957 01:33:53,093 --> 01:33:54,892 Speaker 3: Now on the line right now is a man who 1958 01:33:54,893 --> 01:33:57,532 Speaker 3: knows a lot about Christmas trees and plants. Full stop. 1959 01:33:57,572 --> 01:34:01,012 Speaker 3: It's rude climb pass who's given us a buzz roads 1960 01:34:01,133 --> 01:34:02,892 Speaker 3: What a great man, mate? 1961 01:34:03,732 --> 01:34:06,812 Speaker 9: How are you? How are you go doing that? I 1962 01:34:06,812 --> 01:34:11,093 Speaker 9: mean honestly listening to this rubbish and it's just you 1963 01:34:11,213 --> 01:34:13,293 Speaker 9: got to know what to do a So. 1964 01:34:13,253 --> 01:34:16,132 Speaker 2: Does you say? What about this talk that a viagara 1965 01:34:16,133 --> 01:34:17,652 Speaker 2: and the pot will help the Christmas tree? 1966 01:34:17,732 --> 01:34:17,852 Speaker 4: Is that? 1967 01:34:18,133 --> 01:34:20,052 Speaker 2: Is there is any science? Effeck that up route. 1968 01:34:20,933 --> 01:34:23,612 Speaker 9: Yes there is, but I wouldn't use that because it's 1969 01:34:23,612 --> 01:34:26,052 Speaker 9: probably full of catmium and other things that you scrape 1970 01:34:26,093 --> 01:34:29,093 Speaker 9: off the road. It's a long story I can I 1971 01:34:29,133 --> 01:34:31,133 Speaker 9: can give you. I can give you the viagar story 1972 01:34:31,492 --> 01:34:35,732 Speaker 9: takes me true. That's actually true about Likens talking about 1973 01:34:36,093 --> 01:34:40,572 Speaker 9: gardening lichens on tree trunks. There are certain lichens that 1974 01:34:40,652 --> 01:34:44,492 Speaker 9: are called sexy pavement lichen, and the Chinese have worked 1975 01:34:44,492 --> 01:34:48,413 Speaker 9: out that it's got the same active ingredients as viagra. 1976 01:34:48,692 --> 01:34:51,132 Speaker 9: The only problem is they scrape it off the ground 1977 01:34:51,173 --> 01:34:54,452 Speaker 9: and they're basically what you then take is material like 1978 01:34:54,452 --> 01:34:56,652 Speaker 9: like all these catmiums and all these other things that 1979 01:34:56,812 --> 01:34:59,253 Speaker 9: you find on the road. But that's not what I was. 1980 01:34:59,253 --> 01:35:03,173 Speaker 2: Going as a standard viagra. That's that's prescribed by a doctor. 1981 01:35:03,253 --> 01:35:04,812 Speaker 2: Is that scraped off the road or just the stuff 1982 01:35:04,812 --> 01:35:05,612 Speaker 2: they're giving the trees. 1983 01:35:06,652 --> 01:35:08,732 Speaker 9: No, it's the stuff from the likens that find on 1984 01:35:08,772 --> 01:35:13,452 Speaker 9: the tree trunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, Yo, 1985 01:35:13,612 --> 01:35:15,972 Speaker 9: you got it anyway. But I wasn't going to talk 1986 01:35:15,973 --> 01:35:17,972 Speaker 9: about it. I mean, it's boring what you're doing there. 1987 01:35:18,412 --> 01:35:19,532 Speaker 2: Hey, let's I'm excited. 1988 01:35:20,053 --> 01:35:20,452 Speaker 22: Bonzi. 1989 01:35:20,973 --> 01:35:22,932 Speaker 9: Have you never heard of bonze eye? Yeah? 1990 01:35:23,013 --> 01:35:25,253 Speaker 2: For the bonzi little tree? 1991 01:35:26,053 --> 01:35:29,412 Speaker 9: Yeah, little trees. How old are they in Japan and China? 1992 01:35:29,492 --> 01:35:31,532 Speaker 2: Well, there's hundreds of you you can get about to 1993 01:35:31,612 --> 01:35:32,412 Speaker 2: hundreds of years old. 1994 01:35:32,532 --> 01:35:36,252 Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right, it's four or five hundred years. I mean, honestly, 1995 01:35:36,772 --> 01:35:39,412 Speaker 9: the easiest way to go go to a course, do 1996 01:35:39,532 --> 01:35:42,852 Speaker 9: some bonzai, like my twelve year old grandson and and 1997 01:35:42,933 --> 01:35:44,613 Speaker 9: he made himself. 1998 01:35:44,853 --> 01:35:47,012 Speaker 2: But can you make it? Can you make a bonzei 1999 01:35:47,093 --> 01:35:49,213 Speaker 2: Christmas tree that's big enough to bother with and hang 2000 01:35:49,333 --> 01:35:49,852 Speaker 2: stuff off? 2001 01:35:50,973 --> 01:35:52,612 Speaker 9: No, you don't want it, You don't you don't want it. 2002 01:35:52,652 --> 01:35:55,213 Speaker 9: You don't want to lose your lunge space, do you? 2003 01:35:55,532 --> 01:35:55,732 Speaker 21: Yeah? 2004 01:35:55,893 --> 01:35:57,452 Speaker 2: Well, you know you only bring it in once a year, 2005 01:35:57,612 --> 01:35:59,492 Speaker 2: the Christmas tree, right, No, you. 2006 01:35:59,372 --> 01:36:01,572 Speaker 9: Know you look after it every day of the year 2007 01:36:01,973 --> 01:36:04,412 Speaker 9: and then in Christmas you hang you know, maybe one 2008 01:36:04,452 --> 01:36:09,012 Speaker 9: little ball belong it. And that's rude. 2009 01:36:09,213 --> 01:36:12,293 Speaker 2: You're saying that that there that our chats boring about 2010 01:36:12,372 --> 01:36:14,572 Speaker 2: viagar and Christmas trees and you're coming in and saying 2011 01:36:14,572 --> 01:36:16,772 Speaker 2: that you want one bable on your bonds, like Christmas 2012 01:36:16,772 --> 01:36:17,933 Speaker 2: tree that's that's not a. 2013 01:36:17,973 --> 01:36:23,733 Speaker 3: Christmas who sells an angel? That's more what what bable. 2014 01:36:23,412 --> 01:36:28,372 Speaker 2: Are you putting on their route? Like if there's only one. 2015 01:36:28,652 --> 01:36:31,213 Speaker 9: You can go red or white or green or blue 2016 01:36:31,333 --> 01:36:33,092 Speaker 9: and orange? 2017 01:36:34,372 --> 01:36:37,892 Speaker 2: Can Can you make a bonzeye tree that that's let's 2018 01:36:37,893 --> 01:36:39,652 Speaker 2: say five five five? 2019 01:36:40,772 --> 01:36:41,452 Speaker 9: Yes, you can? 2020 01:36:41,612 --> 01:36:44,053 Speaker 2: I can. Okay, now we're talking and say how much 2021 01:36:44,093 --> 01:36:46,333 Speaker 2: work would it be on a day to day basis 2022 01:36:46,412 --> 01:36:49,053 Speaker 2: route for for me to keep one going in the 2023 01:36:49,053 --> 01:36:51,172 Speaker 2: backyard and a pot with a pine tree. 2024 01:36:52,013 --> 01:36:54,492 Speaker 9: No, not to be quits. It's not that difficult, to 2025 01:36:54,532 --> 01:36:57,412 Speaker 9: be quite honest. You might do something every two or 2026 01:36:57,452 --> 01:36:59,173 Speaker 9: three weeks that you give it a bit of this, 2027 01:36:59,412 --> 01:37:02,013 Speaker 9: bit of that, a little bit of liquid fertilizers and 2028 01:37:02,053 --> 01:37:04,612 Speaker 9: all that sort of stuff, and you'll find it actually, 2029 01:37:04,853 --> 01:37:07,532 Speaker 9: and you can prune it with a pair of sict ears. 2030 01:37:07,612 --> 01:37:09,892 Speaker 9: You can prin it exactly where you want it to be. 2031 01:37:09,812 --> 01:37:12,732 Speaker 2: So you can have perfect shaped Christmas like you could 2032 01:37:12,732 --> 01:37:14,852 Speaker 2: have a perfect cone shaped Christmas tree. 2033 01:37:14,692 --> 01:37:16,652 Speaker 9: Route exactly mate. 2034 01:37:17,013 --> 01:37:17,572 Speaker 3: That's lovely. 2035 01:37:17,652 --> 01:37:19,692 Speaker 2: And then and then then it makes Christmas all more 2036 01:37:19,732 --> 01:37:22,372 Speaker 2: special because that's you've been working on our all year 2037 01:37:22,412 --> 01:37:24,572 Speaker 2: and you finally bring it in for the big day. 2038 01:37:24,572 --> 01:37:27,532 Speaker 9: And nobody and nobody has one like you. 2039 01:37:27,933 --> 01:37:30,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like it. But it's it's a bit 2040 01:37:30,853 --> 01:37:32,452 Speaker 2: late to start one now, so this is kind of 2041 01:37:32,452 --> 01:37:34,253 Speaker 2: a next year project. So I might just have up 2042 01:37:34,293 --> 01:37:36,532 Speaker 2: one I buy from King's Plant Barn or something. 2043 01:37:37,253 --> 01:37:40,093 Speaker 9: Yeah, you should have started started hundred hundred years ago. 2044 01:37:40,412 --> 01:37:47,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a theoretical question here, but if I 2045 01:37:47,293 --> 01:37:50,572 Speaker 3: if someone was to go to Bottlelake Forest and cut 2046 01:37:50,612 --> 01:37:53,492 Speaker 3: down one of the wolding pines out there, what would 2047 01:37:53,492 --> 01:37:54,372 Speaker 3: be the best way to do that? 2048 01:37:54,452 --> 01:38:00,892 Speaker 25: So it's going to survive, get a chainsaw, and then 2049 01:38:01,053 --> 01:38:02,973 Speaker 25: after this done, you burn them. And that is the 2050 01:38:03,253 --> 01:38:06,253 Speaker 25: really good way to go with the roten stuff that 2051 01:38:06,412 --> 01:38:10,052 Speaker 25: stays and grows everywhere. That's quite a pain in the bottom. 2052 01:38:10,133 --> 01:38:13,213 Speaker 9: Those pine trees as well, wilding plants by the way, 2053 01:38:13,692 --> 01:38:17,253 Speaker 9: just saying yeah, there's another one. Actually I never thought 2054 01:38:17,253 --> 01:38:19,852 Speaker 9: of that. That's a good idea for Christmas. Get as 2055 01:38:19,893 --> 01:38:21,892 Speaker 9: many of these trees and cut them down for free. 2056 01:38:22,053 --> 01:38:22,452 Speaker 5: Boom. 2057 01:38:23,652 --> 01:38:25,372 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's my thinking as well. We had 2058 01:38:25,372 --> 01:38:27,333 Speaker 3: a couple of teachers say that they just go bush 2059 01:38:27,372 --> 01:38:29,333 Speaker 3: and find a wolding pine and cut it down. But well, 2060 01:38:29,772 --> 01:38:32,532 Speaker 3: the best Christmas tree, real Christmas tree, and your eyes 2061 01:38:32,652 --> 01:38:35,452 Speaker 3: rude because we had someone say spruce was the way 2062 01:38:35,452 --> 01:38:36,772 Speaker 3: to go. What was the best type? 2063 01:38:36,853 --> 01:38:41,212 Speaker 9: Yeah, oh that's nice, And there's a lot of creatures 2064 01:38:41,253 --> 01:38:43,932 Speaker 9: like that that look really lovely. You take what it 2065 01:38:43,973 --> 01:38:47,372 Speaker 9: looks what it looks best for you, literally, but that's 2066 01:38:47,412 --> 01:38:50,452 Speaker 9: through the pine trees or pine light trees that have 2067 01:38:50,572 --> 01:38:56,853 Speaker 9: got incredibly gorgeous if you're like way of presenting themselves. 2068 01:38:56,893 --> 01:39:00,532 Speaker 9: It's absolutely beautiful and they are cutable. You can prune them. 2069 01:39:00,732 --> 01:39:03,652 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, rude, you're a famous lover of bugs, So 2070 01:39:03,853 --> 01:39:06,692 Speaker 2: would you ever consider just planting bugs on your Christmas 2071 01:39:06,772 --> 01:39:09,372 Speaker 2: tree and then being your Christmas decorations. 2072 01:39:10,333 --> 01:39:12,333 Speaker 9: It's the only way to get Christmas trees is by 2073 01:39:12,492 --> 01:39:15,892 Speaker 9: getting the bugs in and say, hey, here's your food coming. 2074 01:39:18,053 --> 01:39:23,053 Speaker 2: So what live bugs make the best Christmas tree decorations? 2075 01:39:23,293 --> 01:39:24,852 Speaker 9: Oh? Maybe a poor really bug. 2076 01:39:25,093 --> 01:39:27,372 Speaker 3: Oh it sounds nice. It's beautiful. 2077 01:39:28,692 --> 01:39:31,253 Speaker 9: There's poor really moths you see there about what three 2078 01:39:31,333 --> 01:39:34,692 Speaker 9: four inches in diameter? Absolutely gorgeous if they stay there. 2079 01:39:34,893 --> 01:39:37,333 Speaker 9: The only problem with those is they don't last longer 2080 01:39:37,372 --> 01:39:41,052 Speaker 9: than maybe a day and a half. Well that's after 2081 01:39:41,173 --> 01:39:44,812 Speaker 9: seven years, that's right, that's after seven years of living 2082 01:39:44,853 --> 01:39:46,412 Speaker 9: in the trees and all that sort of stuff, and 2083 01:39:46,412 --> 01:39:49,012 Speaker 9: then finally coming out and you've got only twenty four 2084 01:39:49,053 --> 01:39:51,772 Speaker 9: hours to do all your loving living and shopping. That's 2085 01:39:51,812 --> 01:39:53,053 Speaker 9: not fair either, is it. 2086 01:39:53,933 --> 01:39:56,612 Speaker 2: Well, life's not fair, route, But hey, thank you, thank 2087 01:39:56,652 --> 01:39:59,013 Speaker 2: you so much for your call, and appreciate your expertise. 2088 01:39:59,053 --> 01:40:02,973 Speaker 9: As always, I loved I loved going in there and 2089 01:40:03,372 --> 01:40:05,253 Speaker 9: stopping my car of course on the side of the 2090 01:40:05,293 --> 01:40:08,492 Speaker 9: road and bringing up oh, eight hundred eighty ten eight. 2091 01:40:08,772 --> 01:40:12,452 Speaker 3: That's what we're here for any time in any time. Rude, yep, anytime. 2092 01:40:12,532 --> 01:40:15,293 Speaker 3: So bonzi with your one bare bull. That's the advice 2093 01:40:15,372 --> 01:40:16,413 Speaker 3: from root clumbbust. 2094 01:40:16,612 --> 01:40:19,932 Speaker 2: But the bombshell news is that the viagra works. 2095 01:40:20,253 --> 01:40:23,452 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was reading up about the sexy pavement light chin. 2096 01:40:24,293 --> 01:40:26,412 Speaker 3: You shouldn't lick it, but it does have similar stuff 2097 01:40:26,412 --> 01:40:28,612 Speaker 3: than viagra. So there you go. Now now, Oh, eight 2098 01:40:28,692 --> 01:40:31,013 Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Have 2099 01:40:31,093 --> 01:40:32,772 Speaker 3: you got your tree up already? And how are you 2100 01:40:32,853 --> 01:40:35,133 Speaker 3: going to keep it going until Christmas Day? Or have 2101 01:40:35,213 --> 01:40:37,452 Speaker 3: you just gone artificial and said bugger the real tree 2102 01:40:37,492 --> 01:40:39,293 Speaker 3: love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten 2103 01:40:39,372 --> 01:40:41,372 Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? Twenty two to four. 2104 01:40:41,452 --> 01:40:42,973 Speaker 2: I know he's been here since the seventies, but I 2105 01:40:42,973 --> 01:40:46,173 Speaker 2: should have asked Rude about Max forstepping. How excited it 2106 01:40:46,372 --> 01:40:47,412 Speaker 2: is about Abu Dhabi. 2107 01:40:47,612 --> 01:40:50,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been a good question. Twenty two 2108 01:40:50,133 --> 01:40:50,412 Speaker 3: to four. 2109 01:40:51,253 --> 01:40:55,693 Speaker 1: A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons. 2110 01:40:55,732 --> 01:40:58,652 Speaker 1: Have your say on eight hundred eighty ten eighty US 2111 01:40:58,692 --> 01:40:59,253 Speaker 1: talk sa'd b. 2112 01:40:59,612 --> 01:41:02,492 Speaker 3: It is nineteen to four, so we're talking about Christmas trees. 2113 01:41:02,492 --> 01:41:04,572 Speaker 3: Because it is the first of December and a lot 2114 01:41:04,612 --> 01:41:07,972 Speaker 3: of keywhees have whacked up the Christmas tree already. Love 2115 01:41:07,973 --> 01:41:09,892 Speaker 3: to hear from you if that is you, and if 2116 01:41:09,893 --> 01:41:11,412 Speaker 3: it's real, are you going to keep it going till 2117 01:41:11,412 --> 01:41:12,012 Speaker 3: the twenty fifth? 2118 01:41:12,133 --> 01:41:14,053 Speaker 2: Hi, I've had a Norfolk pine in a pot for 2119 01:41:14,133 --> 01:41:16,452 Speaker 2: eight to ten years. I've kept it at boob height, 2120 01:41:16,652 --> 01:41:22,293 Speaker 2: so it's a boom site itself. It's fine in the 2121 01:41:22,333 --> 01:41:24,452 Speaker 2: house for a few weeks over Christmas, and I have 2122 01:41:24,572 --> 01:41:25,492 Speaker 2: more than one. 2123 01:41:25,333 --> 01:41:27,812 Speaker 3: Bullble nice, fine, sounds good. 2124 01:41:27,893 --> 01:41:30,772 Speaker 2: So that's a bond SI. That's boob height. 2125 01:41:30,933 --> 01:41:33,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, ideal, Marty. How are you. 2126 01:41:35,732 --> 01:41:38,532 Speaker 4: Not Marcus this afternoon, isn't it? I'm ahead of myself. 2127 01:41:38,772 --> 01:41:39,732 Speaker 4: How's it going, Matten Color. 2128 01:41:39,812 --> 01:41:41,333 Speaker 2: It's got a bit of a Marcus vibe, which is 2129 01:41:41,612 --> 01:41:42,532 Speaker 2: quite enjoying at the moment. 2130 01:41:42,572 --> 01:41:43,412 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're into it. 2131 01:41:44,293 --> 01:41:48,213 Speaker 4: That's a compliment. Christmas tree. It's a fake one, and 2132 01:41:48,253 --> 01:41:52,733 Speaker 4: we inherited it with the mother in law's house intritively, 2133 01:41:53,452 --> 01:41:56,452 Speaker 4: so we've got the old handy down fake Christmas tree 2134 01:41:56,492 --> 01:41:58,973 Speaker 4: and it stays stays green for decades. 2135 01:42:00,253 --> 01:42:02,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, it stays green forever. I imagine if it's a 2136 01:42:02,253 --> 01:42:04,452 Speaker 2: fake Christmas tree and well, it's not one of those 2137 01:42:04,492 --> 01:42:06,372 Speaker 2: annoying ones that you have to put together and you 2138 01:42:06,492 --> 01:42:09,892 Speaker 2: have to reinvent the every well every year, plugging in 2139 01:42:09,933 --> 01:42:11,132 Speaker 2: all the all the branches. 2140 01:42:11,293 --> 01:42:14,253 Speaker 20: It's the typical pyramid. 2141 01:42:13,853 --> 01:42:18,053 Speaker 4: Scheme Christmas tree so has like five pieces from the 2142 01:42:18,133 --> 01:42:19,252 Speaker 4: largest to the smallest. 2143 01:42:19,412 --> 01:42:22,973 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, that's bull Bruce, Yeah yeah right. 2144 01:42:23,013 --> 01:42:25,532 Speaker 2: So it's not a massive headachet to put it together 2145 01:42:25,572 --> 01:42:26,012 Speaker 2: every year. 2146 01:42:27,772 --> 01:42:30,293 Speaker 4: Boys gets up to it now after the like under 2147 01:42:30,372 --> 01:42:34,652 Speaker 4: fifteen T twenty finals between Cambridge and Matemana College. 2148 01:42:34,732 --> 01:42:36,253 Speaker 16: How good at Cambridge High School? 2149 01:42:36,452 --> 01:42:38,852 Speaker 4: So have you got some have you got some ginger 2150 01:42:38,853 --> 01:42:39,772 Speaker 4: peers and head along? 2151 01:42:39,973 --> 01:42:43,852 Speaker 2: Have you got have you got someone in the game? 2152 01:42:43,893 --> 01:42:44,972 Speaker 2: A family member in the game. 2153 01:42:45,492 --> 01:42:48,852 Speaker 4: Yes, it's my first time, it's his first year playing. 2154 01:42:49,133 --> 01:42:51,452 Speaker 4: It's my first time to go and embarrass them at 2155 01:42:51,492 --> 01:42:55,692 Speaker 4: the game. Have you got any tips embarrassing whistle? Slid 2156 01:42:55,893 --> 01:42:56,372 Speaker 4: a whistle? 2157 01:42:57,053 --> 01:43:00,173 Speaker 2: One thing? That one thing is a person that's coached 2158 01:43:00,173 --> 01:43:02,692 Speaker 2: a bit of junior cricket on the sideline. The most 2159 01:43:02,692 --> 01:43:05,812 Speaker 2: important thing for parents to do is not give running advice. 2160 01:43:06,812 --> 01:43:10,213 Speaker 2: Don't don't start yelling there's two there. Don't berate them 2161 01:43:10,213 --> 01:43:13,253 Speaker 2: when they didn't take a single, because you know, there's 2162 01:43:13,253 --> 01:43:14,772 Speaker 2: no no one had to be a position to decide 2163 01:43:14,772 --> 01:43:16,492 Speaker 2: whether there's a run there or not. Then the person 2164 01:43:16,692 --> 01:43:17,213 Speaker 2: at the crease. 2165 01:43:18,093 --> 01:43:20,692 Speaker 4: What about saying smash it like when you say at 2166 01:43:20,732 --> 01:43:21,813 Speaker 4: rugby smash. 2167 01:43:21,933 --> 01:43:23,013 Speaker 16: Didn't know that right? 2168 01:43:23,053 --> 01:43:25,492 Speaker 2: Well, just as you know, yeah, what were you want? 2169 01:43:25,572 --> 01:43:28,652 Speaker 2: You want your your son and the people on his 2170 01:43:28,692 --> 01:43:30,532 Speaker 2: team to play every ball at its merits. And it's 2171 01:43:30,532 --> 01:43:33,612 Speaker 2: just hard from the sign line to really you know, 2172 01:43:33,772 --> 01:43:36,732 Speaker 2: gauge the line and length and whether it's in a 2173 01:43:36,853 --> 01:43:39,572 Speaker 2: you know, in a good position to play what what shots? 2174 01:43:39,732 --> 01:43:42,053 Speaker 2: I think it's best just to stand on the sideline 2175 01:43:42,372 --> 01:43:45,692 Speaker 2: and and offer your offer, your sport, your chairs, your 2176 01:43:45,692 --> 01:43:50,732 Speaker 2: polite collapse for both sides and just be, you know, 2177 01:43:50,893 --> 01:43:54,612 Speaker 2: just a best of good sportsmanship and bring joy to 2178 01:43:54,692 --> 01:43:56,452 Speaker 2: the fixture. Marty. 2179 01:43:57,612 --> 01:44:01,492 Speaker 4: Okay, and what about bribing the months you know the 2180 01:44:01,572 --> 01:44:03,893 Speaker 4: Karen Tiger mums that are on the. 2181 01:44:03,492 --> 01:44:14,333 Speaker 3: Scoring Yeah, yes, ye down the tree. 2182 01:44:12,293 --> 01:44:14,893 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah definitely. You'll be careful with those, Yeah, that 2183 01:44:15,013 --> 01:44:17,492 Speaker 2: might be a bit far. Might want to heads up 2184 01:44:17,532 --> 01:44:21,132 Speaker 2: first before you go go straight in with the Having 2185 01:44:21,372 --> 01:44:23,173 Speaker 2: a bar of Wittikers and going straight in for the 2186 01:44:23,213 --> 01:44:27,253 Speaker 2: shoulder message could backfire and you could have runs removed 2187 01:44:27,293 --> 01:44:29,773 Speaker 2: from your son. It's a bold move, but yeah, absolutely 2188 01:44:30,492 --> 01:44:32,293 Speaker 2: go along with the best bird of the game. But yeah, 2189 01:44:32,293 --> 01:44:34,972 Speaker 2: definitely try and bribe the scores. 2190 01:44:35,093 --> 01:44:37,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, smart man. Thank you very much and good luck 2191 01:44:37,412 --> 01:44:40,852 Speaker 3: to your boy in the under fifteen T twenty competition 2192 01:44:40,933 --> 01:44:43,572 Speaker 3: on today. One hundred and eighteen eighty is the number 2193 01:44:43,572 --> 01:44:46,852 Speaker 3: to call, Juliet. Have you got your Christmas tree up? 2194 01:44:48,133 --> 01:44:51,212 Speaker 5: No, I've given it. Some Christmas trees got past that age. 2195 01:44:51,492 --> 01:44:57,412 Speaker 5: But anyway, two things Christmas tree live, one in a pot. 2196 01:44:57,812 --> 01:45:00,372 Speaker 5: So I lived in the Netherlands for about three years 2197 01:45:00,372 --> 01:45:03,372 Speaker 5: before I came out here. I did come to visit 2198 01:45:03,612 --> 01:45:06,732 Speaker 5: Dutch friends here before I immigrated, and they had this 2199 01:45:08,452 --> 01:45:11,452 Speaker 5: glide tree in a plastic pot, because that's what you 2200 01:45:11,532 --> 01:45:13,892 Speaker 5: do in an Etherlands. It was this purely little thing. 2201 01:45:14,732 --> 01:45:19,093 Speaker 5: It went out into the garden, their garden. Five years 2202 01:45:19,173 --> 01:45:22,412 Speaker 5: later I immigrated and visited them, still in the garden. 2203 01:45:22,572 --> 01:45:26,133 Speaker 5: No one had looked at it alive. So about two 2204 01:45:26,173 --> 01:45:28,093 Speaker 5: years later, when I got my own property, I said, 2205 01:45:28,133 --> 01:45:30,932 Speaker 5: can I have the Christmas tree? Yep, and I put 2206 01:45:30,973 --> 01:45:33,812 Speaker 5: in the back of the garden. And when I left 2207 01:45:33,812 --> 01:45:37,772 Speaker 5: that property that tree was probably about I don't know, 2208 01:45:37,933 --> 01:45:40,572 Speaker 5: twenty meters talk so it got a good life. In 2209 01:45:40,612 --> 01:45:43,692 Speaker 5: the end. I didn't take it inside to decorate it. Matt, 2210 01:45:44,612 --> 01:45:45,612 Speaker 5: I can't help. 2211 01:45:45,452 --> 01:45:45,852 Speaker 8: You with that. 2212 01:45:47,652 --> 01:45:49,732 Speaker 2: Hard to get twenty meter tree into the house, isn't. 2213 01:45:49,572 --> 01:45:52,572 Speaker 5: It Well it would be, yeah, but I mean the 2214 01:45:52,612 --> 01:45:54,532 Speaker 5: whole thing about you have to look after it. I 2215 01:45:54,572 --> 01:45:56,933 Speaker 5: mean they just had not even looked at it, but 2216 01:45:57,452 --> 01:45:59,452 Speaker 5: put somewhere in the back of the garden. And I 2217 01:45:59,612 --> 01:46:03,372 Speaker 5: took it away and it thrived. So I don't know, 2218 01:46:03,893 --> 01:46:06,612 Speaker 5: you probably don't have to do too much to help 2219 01:46:06,612 --> 01:46:10,932 Speaker 5: it survive. The other other solution I came upon later 2220 01:46:11,013 --> 01:46:15,972 Speaker 5: on was one and a half meter not real tree 2221 01:46:16,652 --> 01:46:21,412 Speaker 5: decorated and would push it into a carton box at 2222 01:46:21,412 --> 01:46:25,492 Speaker 5: the end of Christmas, put it in the garage, slide 2223 01:46:25,492 --> 01:46:29,412 Speaker 5: it out fully decorated for the next Christmas. 2224 01:46:29,412 --> 01:46:33,492 Speaker 3: Oh smart, good to go. Yeah wow, yeah, that is 2225 01:46:33,532 --> 01:46:38,972 Speaker 3: thinking there. It cuts them out waking with the lights 2226 01:46:38,973 --> 01:46:40,213 Speaker 3: at all, and you're good to go. 2227 01:46:40,652 --> 01:46:42,852 Speaker 5: In the beginning, it was I used to have to 2228 01:46:42,933 --> 01:46:46,053 Speaker 5: decorate this tree with particular friends because I was the 2229 01:46:46,133 --> 01:46:48,812 Speaker 5: creative one and I just got tired. But they just 2230 01:46:48,812 --> 01:46:51,732 Speaker 5: had this little one, so we've got things got added 2231 01:46:51,853 --> 01:46:54,253 Speaker 5: every year. I just thought out of this and I 2232 01:46:54,372 --> 01:46:57,012 Speaker 5: just made it really nice. I said, okay, guys, And 2233 01:46:57,053 --> 01:46:59,852 Speaker 5: when Christmas was over, I sort of just shut it away, 2234 01:47:00,133 --> 01:47:02,772 Speaker 5: put it into the box instead of leave you know, 2235 01:47:02,933 --> 01:47:06,093 Speaker 5: arrows this way up, and it got stashed away and 2236 01:47:06,133 --> 01:47:07,053 Speaker 5: the next year it came out. 2237 01:47:08,333 --> 01:47:10,812 Speaker 2: It's brilliant. We're getting lots of great advice here. But 2238 01:47:10,812 --> 01:47:14,572 Speaker 2: what about mixing the two pieces, the two Christmas hacks. 2239 01:47:15,093 --> 01:47:17,412 Speaker 2: So you get the Christmas tree that's potted that you 2240 01:47:17,492 --> 01:47:20,093 Speaker 2: just bring in every year, but you also leave it 2241 01:47:20,093 --> 01:47:22,213 Speaker 2: in the garden with the decorations on it. 2242 01:47:22,253 --> 01:47:24,932 Speaker 3: If anyone's done that, we are keen to hear from you. 2243 01:47:24,973 --> 01:47:29,732 Speaker 2: Maybe you have decorations that are you know, weather proof yep. 2244 01:47:30,053 --> 01:47:32,213 Speaker 2: So the tree just sits out there, fully decorated. You 2245 01:47:32,213 --> 01:47:35,372 Speaker 2: want to put it sort of out of you know, 2246 01:47:35,772 --> 01:47:37,732 Speaker 2: you know, not out of the off the beaten tracks, 2247 01:47:37,732 --> 01:47:39,333 Speaker 2: so people aren't seeing it every day because it might 2248 01:47:39,372 --> 01:47:40,732 Speaker 2: be a bit of a Christmas spoiler. 2249 01:47:40,853 --> 01:47:42,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to the bag garden in the corner. 2250 01:47:42,572 --> 01:47:45,732 Speaker 2: But the fully robust, decorated Christmas tree in a pot 2251 01:47:45,772 --> 01:47:48,492 Speaker 2: that never dies. You bring it in for one month 2252 01:47:48,492 --> 01:47:49,532 Speaker 2: a year and put it back out. 2253 01:47:49,732 --> 01:47:51,612 Speaker 3: Sound smart if you've done that. Love to hear from 2254 01:47:51,612 --> 01:47:54,093 Speaker 3: you nine two ninety two is the text number. It 2255 01:47:54,253 --> 01:47:55,253 Speaker 3: is thirty to four. 2256 01:47:56,412 --> 01:47:59,892 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and 2257 01:48:00,133 --> 01:48:03,972 Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used 2258 01:48:03,973 --> 01:48:06,333 Speaker 1: talks that'd be it's ten to. 2259 01:48:06,333 --> 01:48:09,692 Speaker 2: Four as text through here texted that's not happy, you guys. 2260 01:48:09,732 --> 01:48:13,093 Speaker 2: Giggling at the viagrant in the Christmas tree water is immature. 2261 01:48:13,173 --> 01:48:16,293 Speaker 2: It's a real and sensible thing. We do it every year. 2262 01:48:16,333 --> 01:48:19,692 Speaker 2: It's not a joke for juveniles. Seriously, text you can't 2263 01:48:19,732 --> 01:48:22,973 Speaker 2: expect us to not have a little giggle at you 2264 01:48:23,053 --> 01:48:25,412 Speaker 2: crushing up a little viagara and putting it in your 2265 01:48:25,492 --> 01:48:26,333 Speaker 2: Christmas tree water. 2266 01:48:26,452 --> 01:48:27,052 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. 2267 01:48:27,093 --> 01:48:29,492 Speaker 2: I mean rude climbed past the bug man that rang 2268 01:48:29,572 --> 01:48:32,053 Speaker 2: him before he has said it's a real thing. 2269 01:48:32,213 --> 01:48:32,452 Speaker 3: Yep. 2270 01:48:32,692 --> 01:48:34,532 Speaker 2: So I just thought the first person that texted him 2271 01:48:34,572 --> 01:48:37,572 Speaker 2: was texting as a joke. But whether as a real 2272 01:48:37,612 --> 01:48:40,053 Speaker 2: thing or not, Yeah, surely we're going to giggle at that. 2273 01:48:41,973 --> 01:48:43,532 Speaker 3: How do you get you know, what do you say 2274 01:48:43,532 --> 01:48:45,612 Speaker 3: to your doctor? My tree is looking a little bit 2275 01:48:45,652 --> 01:48:46,972 Speaker 3: little viagrat? 2276 01:48:47,053 --> 01:48:52,532 Speaker 2: And what is the similarities between the Christmas tree and 2277 01:48:52,612 --> 01:48:54,652 Speaker 2: the other application of varga of it? So I think 2278 01:48:54,692 --> 01:48:56,692 Speaker 2: it's incredibly interesting and quite funny. 2279 01:48:56,772 --> 01:48:59,253 Speaker 3: It's a magic pill. Surely clary. How are you? 2280 01:49:01,013 --> 01:49:01,213 Speaker 16: Hey? 2281 01:49:01,253 --> 01:49:01,852 Speaker 7: Not too bad? 2282 01:49:02,372 --> 01:49:03,852 Speaker 3: Now? What have you? What have you got for us? 2283 01:49:03,853 --> 01:49:05,612 Speaker 3: In terms of Christmas tree? 2284 01:49:05,293 --> 01:49:10,692 Speaker 7: I for several years he had an irish U tree. 2285 01:49:10,853 --> 01:49:13,652 Speaker 7: Now don't ask me how to spell irish U. But 2286 01:49:13,893 --> 01:49:17,013 Speaker 7: it was given to us as a gift. It stood 2287 01:49:17,372 --> 01:49:21,732 Speaker 7: possibly five foot six foot tall in a pot and 2288 01:49:21,812 --> 01:49:23,972 Speaker 7: I would wheel it in with a sack bearer every year. 2289 01:49:24,053 --> 01:49:27,732 Speaker 7: It's a perfect Christmas tree shape. We ended up giving 2290 01:49:27,772 --> 01:49:31,013 Speaker 7: it away to someone because we were shipping towns and 2291 01:49:31,452 --> 01:49:34,372 Speaker 7: it just, you know, seemed easier, and the children had 2292 01:49:34,412 --> 01:49:38,252 Speaker 7: grown and we probably thought maybe not a Christmas tree anymore. 2293 01:49:39,572 --> 01:49:42,812 Speaker 7: But have a look at those. They don't grow that 2294 01:49:43,013 --> 01:49:45,892 Speaker 7: fast in a pot. So it's not like we're having 2295 01:49:45,893 --> 01:49:49,132 Speaker 7: to you know, replace it all the time. I'd expect 2296 01:49:49,173 --> 01:49:53,772 Speaker 7: it's still relatively healthy at that size. It has been 2297 01:49:53,812 --> 01:49:56,532 Speaker 7: probably for at least twelve or thirteen years. 2298 01:49:56,772 --> 01:49:59,293 Speaker 2: Are you still getting that? But you know, does it 2299 01:49:59,293 --> 01:50:02,812 Speaker 2: does it create the Christmas smell? Though? You know, yeah, 2300 01:50:02,853 --> 01:50:03,492 Speaker 2: it's here. 2301 01:50:03,532 --> 01:50:06,973 Speaker 7: It's not too bad, Matt, you know it's yeah, it's 2302 01:50:07,013 --> 01:50:08,732 Speaker 7: a good, bloody good Christmas tree. 2303 01:50:09,173 --> 01:50:10,133 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh good idea. 2304 01:50:10,293 --> 01:50:10,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good. 2305 01:50:10,973 --> 01:50:13,053 Speaker 2: And we're having to do much bonds eyeing on it 2306 01:50:13,333 --> 01:50:15,093 Speaker 2: during the year. We're having to treat to keep that 2307 01:50:15,133 --> 01:50:17,093 Speaker 2: perfect shape, or it just it just grew naturally in 2308 01:50:17,173 --> 01:50:18,132 Speaker 2: a perfect shape. 2309 01:50:18,572 --> 01:50:20,812 Speaker 7: Pretty much grew naturally in that state. 2310 01:50:20,893 --> 01:50:22,293 Speaker 9: You might, you might. 2311 01:50:23,293 --> 01:50:25,612 Speaker 7: The only thing I did do was rotate it in 2312 01:50:25,692 --> 01:50:28,093 Speaker 7: the garden, you know, when it was outside. Yeah, just 2313 01:50:29,133 --> 01:50:32,053 Speaker 7: spin it so that you don't get bending to the 2314 01:50:32,253 --> 01:50:34,772 Speaker 7: to the sun. But other than that, it was perfect, 2315 01:50:34,893 --> 01:50:35,692 Speaker 7: so good looking tree. 2316 01:50:35,692 --> 01:50:37,933 Speaker 3: It's almost like a cylinder, isn't it Almost like a 2317 01:50:37,933 --> 01:50:38,532 Speaker 3: bullet shape. 2318 01:50:38,732 --> 01:50:43,852 Speaker 7: Yeah, almost like a Christmas tree shape. 2319 01:50:43,732 --> 01:50:44,333 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. 2320 01:50:44,652 --> 01:50:47,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, an iris u, how'd you go? 2321 01:50:47,532 --> 01:50:48,013 Speaker 8: There you go? 2322 01:50:48,173 --> 01:50:50,053 Speaker 2: Did you have a truck of viager in there with it? 2323 01:50:52,732 --> 01:50:53,333 Speaker 20: No? 2324 01:50:53,333 --> 01:50:58,253 Speaker 3: No, I did not do it. I'm still young, very good. 2325 01:50:58,893 --> 01:51:01,812 Speaker 3: A couple of tigs coming through here, you guys. I 2326 01:51:01,812 --> 01:51:04,133 Speaker 3: would say you could probably prune leavender into a nice 2327 01:51:04,173 --> 01:51:06,692 Speaker 3: Christmas tree shape and that would happily live in a pot. 2328 01:51:06,772 --> 01:51:09,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then it would smell like leavender and pine fresh. 2329 01:51:09,452 --> 01:51:11,492 Speaker 2: Like you need a Christmas tree, guys, have a pop 2330 01:51:11,572 --> 01:51:14,053 Speaker 2: up Christmas tree. Open the box. She spirals up, Hook 2331 01:51:14,093 --> 01:51:16,492 Speaker 2: it up. To the top and it takes twenty seconds. 2332 01:51:16,492 --> 01:51:19,412 Speaker 2: Well it's a pop up Christmas tree. Wow, this six 2333 01:51:19,572 --> 01:51:21,412 Speaker 2: is my life. My wife is Filipino and it's a 2334 01:51:21,412 --> 01:51:23,852 Speaker 2: tradition of the Philippines that you see your Christmas tree 2335 01:51:24,812 --> 01:51:27,892 Speaker 2: up from first to September, which probably seems pretty insane 2336 01:51:27,893 --> 01:51:30,572 Speaker 2: to most. I managed to hold her off to another 2337 01:51:30,612 --> 01:51:33,452 Speaker 2: month and put it up on first of October instead, 2338 01:51:33,492 --> 01:51:36,492 Speaker 2: so that from the first of September four months, so 2339 01:51:36,532 --> 01:51:38,133 Speaker 2: that Christmas tree is up a third of the year. 2340 01:51:38,333 --> 01:51:39,893 Speaker 3: Geez, that is some longevity. 2341 01:51:40,053 --> 01:51:41,933 Speaker 2: I mean, there is that song. I wish it was 2342 01:51:42,013 --> 01:51:46,013 Speaker 2: Christmas every day, but that, you know, third of the year. 2343 01:51:46,293 --> 01:51:48,253 Speaker 2: I have an amazing tree that I grow every year 2344 01:51:48,253 --> 01:51:51,173 Speaker 2: and it has amazing buds on it and seeds. I 2345 01:51:51,293 --> 01:51:54,412 Speaker 2: use it to grow more the following year. Okay, okay, right, 2346 01:51:54,572 --> 01:51:56,492 Speaker 2: see where young there must the buzz and seeds. 2347 01:51:56,612 --> 01:51:56,812 Speaker 9: Yep. 2348 01:51:56,893 --> 01:51:59,213 Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave that's Merry Christmas to you, my friend. 2349 01:51:59,293 --> 01:52:01,253 Speaker 2: That's a different type of indoor growing. 2350 01:52:01,253 --> 01:52:03,612 Speaker 3: That one and this one says might to ten have 2351 01:52:03,732 --> 01:52:06,133 Speaker 3: potted trees for forty bucks. But my husband just sees 2352 01:52:06,173 --> 01:52:07,172 Speaker 3: paint the dead tree. 2353 01:52:07,893 --> 01:52:10,133 Speaker 2: Oh so you so you just. 2354 01:52:10,093 --> 01:52:12,053 Speaker 3: Wake up the old brown, dead tree and just put 2355 01:52:12,093 --> 01:52:16,173 Speaker 3: some green paint on. Your husband's a thinker, Yeah, like 2356 01:52:16,213 --> 01:52:16,732 Speaker 3: his style. 2357 01:52:17,612 --> 01:52:22,133 Speaker 2: All right, okay, then all right, okay, then all right, 2358 01:52:22,173 --> 01:52:23,852 Speaker 2: you're seeing busy. We'll let you go. Thank you so 2359 01:52:23,933 --> 01:52:27,132 Speaker 2: much for listening. Everyone being a great old show today. 2360 01:52:27,652 --> 01:52:32,732 Speaker 2: The podcast will be up in about an hour. He 2361 01:52:33,253 --> 01:52:36,652 Speaker 2: du see Ellen is up next. But Tyler, my good friend, 2362 01:52:36,652 --> 01:52:37,612 Speaker 2: why am I playing the song? 2363 01:52:38,933 --> 01:52:42,412 Speaker 3: Oh, very good cover of the Rolling Stone as this 2364 01:52:42,492 --> 01:52:45,892 Speaker 3: because finally it's a big day for me. I'll finally 2365 01:52:45,933 --> 01:52:48,213 Speaker 3: managed to get on the corner, one little corner of 2366 01:52:48,253 --> 01:52:53,013 Speaker 3: the New Zealand Woman's Weekly. Yeah, nice peck, mate, nice peck. 2367 01:52:53,093 --> 01:52:55,012 Speaker 3: I had no idea, but well done. 2368 01:52:55,372 --> 01:52:56,772 Speaker 2: It's good, chunk because you came in. 2369 01:52:56,853 --> 01:52:57,133 Speaker 7: You go. 2370 01:52:57,933 --> 01:52:59,972 Speaker 2: I'm on the cover of the Woman's Weekly. 2371 01:53:00,293 --> 01:53:03,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Rolling Stone would be nice one day, but 2372 01:53:03,213 --> 01:53:04,812 Speaker 3: I'll take the New Zealand Woman's Weekly. 2373 01:53:05,452 --> 01:53:09,372 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you so much for listening. Until tomorrow afternoon. 2374 01:53:09,572 --> 01:53:11,532 Speaker 2: Give them a taste of Kiwi from Tyler and once 2375 01:53:11,612 --> 01:53:16,293 Speaker 2: I love you Blue right, groupies, we'll do anything we're saving. 2376 01:53:16,812 --> 01:53:18,653 Speaker 3: We gotta chine wine. 2377 01:53:18,293 --> 01:53:19,532 Speaker 14: Into your pool room. 2378 01:53:20,572 --> 01:53:23,173 Speaker 2: It's teaching us a better way. 2379 01:53:23,532 --> 01:53:24,772 Speaker 3: We got all the. 2380 01:53:24,812 --> 01:53:28,333 Speaker 26: Fence that money can find so we never have to 2381 01:53:28,412 --> 01:53:32,932 Speaker 26: be alone, and we keep getting richer, but we can't 2382 01:53:33,013 --> 01:53:35,133 Speaker 26: get our picture on the cover of the. 2383 01:53:35,213 --> 01:53:38,012 Speaker 2: Rolling Stone, road Stone. 2384 01:53:38,133 --> 01:53:41,372 Speaker 26: Want to see my pick chu on the cover stone, 2385 01:53:41,492 --> 01:53:45,133 Speaker 26: want to five five compies found my muther off, want 2386 01:53:45,173 --> 01:53:46,732 Speaker 26: to see my smile and. 2387 01:53:46,812 --> 01:53:51,253 Speaker 2: This on the cover of the Rolling Stone, on the 2388 01:53:51,333 --> 01:53:51,972 Speaker 2: cover of. 2389 01:53:51,973 --> 01:53:55,293 Speaker 26: The road and want to see my dig chu on 2390 01:53:55,333 --> 01:53:59,253 Speaker 26: the cover. Gonna color in five calls from my photo 2391 01:54:00,213 --> 01:54:03,893 Speaker 26: a smile, we will make a phone pole of the 2392 01:54:04,093 --> 01:54:08,612 Speaker 26: road and shot from man I'm seeing now it won't 2393 01:54:08,692 --> 01:54:12,533 Speaker 26: be our front smiling Man are beautiful. 2394 01:54:14,973 --> 01:54:17,532 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b listen live on 2395 01:54:17,692 --> 01:54:20,612 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2396 01:54:20,692 --> 01:54:23,253 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio