1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Brian Bridge fifty bucks a week, one hundred and fifty 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: thousand families. This is the government's response to the fuel 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: price spike. It's working families who get it, working households, 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: people with kids on lower incomes. Greens want more. Ricardo 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: in India's March is with our Social development spokesperson. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning. 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: So I guess the key question here, and this is 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: the point Nikola made yesterday, is who uses their car more? 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: Is it a worker or a job seeker beneficiary. 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: I think everybody is filling the pens, particularly anyone who's 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: in a lower middle income. We've seen reports of beneficiaries 12 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: who have kids who are not eligible for working for 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: families who are struggling to make ens meat, who are 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: struggling to get to job interviews because of the cost 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 2: that it's incurring on them while they're already struggling to 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: make ins neat. But you must have the most package. 17 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, but you must concede that if you are 18 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: a beneficiary, you will be driving a lot less. You'll 19 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: have more opportunity to walk than you would have you 20 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: had a job in kids. 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Right, Beneficiaries are often having to drive to job interviews. 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Many of them are actually meant to be driving too 23 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: many job interviews. Some have kids with health conditions who 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: are in a benefit and are knowledgeable, who may have 25 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: had to go to a medical appointments, who may have 26 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 2: additional requirements. And we're talking about people who are already 27 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: struggling each week to make ends meet. So it's not 28 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: saying that this package won't help the family that it reaches. 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: It's about actually recognizing but if we're looking at a 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 2: potential worst case, Maarrio, those people who have kits who 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: are in a benefit won't be supported by the government's package. 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: So this is why we. 33 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Ricardo, next week they're getting an increase to their benefits, 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: aren't they. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: Those increases happen regardless. This is not something the government 36 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: has chosen to do it and increase the work complee 37 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: indexation not It's three does not actually help people make 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: in set. If it did, we would not be seeing 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: an increase in children living in material hardships. 40 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Riccardo. It's an inflation adjustment, right, So it's three point 41 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: one one percent. Next week, beneficiaries are getting an increase, 42 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: our work is getting one. 43 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: No workers should be getting one, and the government has 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: the tools to increase In clickt the minimum wage, the 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: government has the tools to, for example, lift the wages 46 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: of teachers and nurses. This is something that the government 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: pitches if they wanted to. And it's not like wages 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: increase simply because of the market. The government has the 49 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: means to increase, for example, the minimum wage. It also 50 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: has ink the ability to increase wages within the public sector. 51 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: So these are political decisions, all right, Riccardo. Our issue 52 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: is that this is not Rich's kids who actually live 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: in beneficiary households. 54 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,839 Speaker 1: For example, appreciate your time this morning, Riccardo, meaning there's 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: much for more. 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 2: Familily Edition with Ryan Bridge. Listen live to News Talks 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: it being from five am weekdays, or follow the podcast 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: on iHeartRadio.