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Speaker 1: Heather Dupless, it's a really big rugby game for us

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Speaker 1: tomorrow morning our time. The Irish will get the chance

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Speaker 1: at revenge because remember the All Blacks knock them out

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Speaker 1: of the World Cup and Strawn as a former All

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Speaker 1: Black and is with us.

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Speaker 2: A and afternoon, Heather, how are you? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm good. It's going to be tough for us though,

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Speaker 1: isn't it because we've got Body and Cody out with

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Speaker 1: the injuries.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess those force changes. With l Moore and

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Speaker 2: McKenzie coming into those two critical spots, we're probably the

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Speaker 2: only changes that the All Backs were going to make.

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Speaker 2: But you know, by all accounts they both contributed significantly

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Speaker 2: when they came on against the English. So a pretty

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Speaker 2: settled look about this All Black side. Though.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that Damien McKenzie has proved his placement?

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Speaker 1: Has he convinced you in that position?

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Speaker 2: My honest answers, probably no, not yet. He does add

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Speaker 2: immense value coming off the bench, and I think there's

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Speaker 2: been a lot of focus on what numbers sixteen to

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Speaker 2: twenty three do with this All Black team, particularly at

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Speaker 2: the back end of games, and he does really well

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Speaker 2: coming off bench. Be a legitimate starter and you know,

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Speaker 2: to encapsulate all the critical things you need from a

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Speaker 2: pivot at number ten. I think he's still missing something

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Speaker 2: when it comes to an international level in terms of

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Speaker 2: his consistency. So still some work to do in that regard.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this sextem thing, is this a thing like has

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Speaker 1: he got inside their heads? Or is just a bit

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Speaker 1: of fun?

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Speaker 2: Oh look, there's a whole lot of versions to this,

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Speaker 2: aren't there. I mean there was a probably a little

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Speaker 2: bit of nastiness around it initially, just frustrations born out,

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Speaker 2: you know, at the height of a World Cup quarter final,

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Speaker 2: lots of pressure on both teams, particularly the Irish, and

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Speaker 2: you know that probably was there for a little while.

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Speaker 2: But I think, you know, rugby plays in general move

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Speaker 2: on pretty quickly, so I don't think it's been a

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Speaker 2: major issue. But yeah, we never really know because individuals

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Speaker 2: react differently to certain things. So what we will what

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Speaker 2: we do know who is that this is going to

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Speaker 2: be real spicy this game, because you know, the Irish

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Speaker 2: are playing at home, they've got a point to prove

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Speaker 2: and always very tough. But I mean they've been so

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Speaker 2: consistent on the global scale two, you know, So I

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Speaker 2: mean that arguably the other favorites coming into tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it's going to be a wonderful test match.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. Hey, have you got any gossip? What

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Speaker 1: it is that Ethan de group did?

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Speaker 2: No? Not at all. Unfortunately, I'm an old thing now,

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Speaker 2: a lot of those things escape me these days.

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Speaker 1: We're all out of the loop and if we found out,

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Speaker 1: would probably just be very jealous that he managed to

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Speaker 1: get up to something fun and thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. And straw and for more All Black, for

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