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Speaker 5: Well, a very very good morning, and welcome along to
Speaker 5: the Resident Builder on Sunday here at News Talk c B.
Speaker 5: I'm Pete wolf Camp, resident Builder, and this is an
Speaker 5: opportunity to ask all sorts of questions or discuss and
Speaker 5: debate all sorts of issues regarding building. So whether it's
Speaker 5: building as in doing some maintenance around the house, like
Speaker 5: I suddenly realized yesterday that there was something that I
Speaker 5: should have done during the week and thought, while I'm
Speaker 5: waiting for the barbecue to heat up, I can finish
Speaker 5: that little job. So a couple of screws to block
Speaker 5: a timber and a few square drives, right, job done,
Speaker 5: stops that flapping around the wind. Any long story, I
Speaker 5: won't get into it here. Or you've got projects, perhaps
Speaker 5: like my mates where I was earlier in the day
Speaker 5: lifting out an oven that had come out of their house,
Speaker 5: to go to somebody else's house that sold it on
Speaker 5: trade Me or Facebook or whatever it is. And ahead
Speaker 5: of the builders moving in tomorrow to do a reasonable
Speaker 5: size sort of extension alteration to the back of the house,
Speaker 5: which had been something that had been in the works
Speaker 5: for a long time. So all of the planning, the preparation,
Speaker 5: the working through the various iterations of the design that
Speaker 5: you know, looking at the scale and scope of the building,
Speaker 5: you know, how much can we extend? Obviously every time
Speaker 5: we extend it's going to cost more money. So is
Speaker 5: there that mixture between Yah, I'd need more space, but
Speaker 5: I also have a budget that I'd like to stick to.
Speaker 5: So those sorts of issues are there. And then there's
Speaker 5: the practicalities of you know, maybe living without a kitchen
Speaker 5: sink for a couple of minutes. Well I was going
Speaker 5: to say a couple of minutes. It's not a couple
Speaker 5: of minutes. It's going to be a couple of months
Speaker 5: in their case. And then as it happened, the I
Speaker 5: went round to pick up an oven that I dropped
Speaker 5: off to a neighbor. They'd been introduced through Marketplace or
Speaker 5: whatever it is. So an old set of oven hobs,
Speaker 5: an old hob transport from one house to the other
Speaker 5: to a family that are also doing renovation. So we've
Speaker 5: all well, it feels like we've all been there in
Speaker 5: terms of the big renovation or the knocking the back
Speaker 5: of the house off, or living without a kitchen for
Speaker 5: a while, doing without a bathroom, often seeking favors from
Speaker 5: friends and neighbors while you get through that disruptive part
Speaker 5: of your life. If you'd like to talk about renovations, alterations,
Speaker 5: new bills, we can talk about all of that on
Speaker 5: the program this morning. If you've got a particular question
Speaker 5: around products or product supply and product selection as well,
Speaker 5: we can talk about that certainly. If you'd like to
Speaker 5: chat about regulations, rules and so on, we can talk
Speaker 5: about that. Actually, just go into a bit more detail
Speaker 5: a little bit later on. But an interesting update to
Speaker 5: a story or a caller that we had last week.
Speaker 5: If you recall a caller rang and said, look, I'm
Speaker 5: calling on behalf of my mate who's about to have
Speaker 5: his house demolish because council have decided that it's unconsented
Speaker 5: and they're going to roll the bulldozers through it next week.
Speaker 5: We had quite a decent conversation about that. Interesting to
Speaker 5: see that the story appeared online in the Herald yesterday
Speaker 5: or the day before, certainly yesterday talking about what I
Speaker 5: presume is the same situation, given that it would be
Speaker 5: a remarkably rare event for counsel after however long they've
Speaker 5: been negotiating with the homeowner around unconsented work, finally issues
Speaker 5: in order saying we're going to demolish your house. So
Speaker 5: that story's on the Herald website at the moment, but
Speaker 5: we might have a look because it is a little
Speaker 5: bit more context than the information we got from the
Speaker 5: caller last week on the show. So, as you can
Speaker 5: tell from my long winded introduction, there is plenty of
Speaker 5: scope to talk about all things building and construction, whether
Speaker 5: it's the practical, whether it's the theoretical in terms of
Speaker 5: the legislation, and whether it's the dollars and cents too
Speaker 5: in terms of choosing your products or even choosing your
Speaker 5: contractors as well. There's been a couple of interesting stories
Speaker 5: about that. Certainly during the course of the week, I've
Speaker 5: had a number of meetings with people just a construction
Speaker 5: sort of stuff. But one of the hot topics in
Speaker 5: discussion is around the self certification and the possibility that
Speaker 5: companies essentially will be able to, as one person put
Speaker 5: it in a discussion. I've heard this online as well,
Speaker 5: essentially mark your own homework. Right, So, if you are
Speaker 5: a building company and you get permission to self certify,
Speaker 5: what's the oversight apart from you marking your own homework?
Speaker 5: And is that going to work out well for the
Speaker 5: consumer in the end, Because ultimately that's who we should
Speaker 5: be thinking about, that's who we should be protecting. So
Speaker 5: if you have a comment or a question, or you
Speaker 5: want to talk about something regarding building, it's a pretty
Speaker 5: broad topic and we're here to take your calls right now.
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 5: to call. A slightly shorter program today, by the way.
Speaker 6: Excuse me.
Speaker 5: The All Blacks you may have heard playing France at
Speaker 5: the Star de France in Paris.
Speaker 6: Kick off we'll be at eight o'clock.
Speaker 5: We'll finish the show at around just before quarter to eight,
Speaker 5: and so Rudd will start a little bit earlier. Straight
Speaker 5: after the eight o'clock news. I'm going to introduce you
Speaker 5: to Hunter Moon. Hunter Moon is a young man that
Speaker 5: I met last week. He was competing along with nine
Speaker 5: other apprentices or eight other apprentices nine apprentices who were
Speaker 5: finalists for the Apprentice of the Year competition. So to
Speaker 5: get to the national final, he had to win the
Speaker 5: regional final and then the final will ask him about it.
Speaker 5: It's a bit of practical and then quite a long
Speaker 5: interview process as well, so you have to explain knowledge
Speaker 5: around building materials, building regulations, building processes and so on.
Speaker 5: And then he was awarded Apprentice of the Year at
Speaker 5: a very nice scala dinner last Friday Friday week and
Speaker 5: so I thought, right, we'll get him on the show.
Speaker 5: We did it last year with the Apprentice of the
Speaker 5: Year and hopefully this be regular things. So outstanding young
Speaker 5: man Hunter Mood. He'll come and join us after eight o'clock.
Speaker 5: We're also going to take a deep dive into some
Speaker 5: of the technical aspects around retro fitting for double glazing,
Speaker 5: So Nick Hardy Jones from Metro Performance Class will be
Speaker 5: joining us before eight o'clock. So maybe if you've got
Speaker 5: a specific question around that, we might be able to
Speaker 5: slip that into the conversation as well. But we'll want
Speaker 5: to take a deep dive into, you know, the mechanics
Speaker 5: around what types of sashes can be retrofitted, which ones can't,
Speaker 5: which ones might need to.
Speaker 6: Be replaced, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5: So we'll do that with Nick Hardy Jones at around
Speaker 5: seven forty five this morning, Hunter Moon Apprentice of the
Speaker 5: Year after eight o'clock. Rid will join us earlier at
Speaker 5: around eight fifteen, and then we hand over to our
Speaker 5: commentary team at around eight forty five. So busy old morning. Now,
Speaker 5: that's my hint to say. Now is a really good
Speaker 5: time to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The lines
Speaker 5: are open looking forward to he calls your conversation this morning.
Speaker 5: It is fourteen minutes after six. Call us now, eight
Speaker 5: hundred eighty ten eighty.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 5: Oh, actually, I was just saying too Isaiah my producer.
Speaker 5: This morning, there was the ad just before for Lord
Speaker 5: of the Rings the musical. Actually got some tickets to
Speaker 5: go to that this week. It was outstanding. It was
Speaker 5: really really good. I don't know whether you could call
Speaker 5: me sort of a person that is into musicals as such,
Speaker 5: although increasingly I am like I've been to the Hamilton
Speaker 5: Musical couple of times, which I have just thought was
Speaker 5: absolutely amazing. Our son is involved in musical theater as well,
Speaker 5: including an upcoming actually it's on cheapest, not this week,
Speaker 5: not the week after, but two weeks away anyway, Alice
Speaker 5: of Wonderland at the ARTAA Center. So our boys involved
Speaker 5: in that anyway, So we went along. It's pretty bloody
Speaker 5: good to be fair, the Lord of the Rings.
Speaker 6: It was very good.
Speaker 5: It was quite entertaining. It's more than entertaining, was quite
Speaker 5: quite awe inspiring. Anyway, that was one night this week,
Speaker 5: which was right, let's get back to building. My daughter
Speaker 5: says a text Michelle Tixon. Daughter wants to put up
Speaker 5: a fence between her and one of her neighbors. Can
Speaker 5: she ask the neighbor to pay for half? Well, as
Speaker 5: it happens, the good news was last week on the show,
Speaker 5: we had an expert, a lawyer who's an expert on this,
Speaker 5: and yes, you can request a contribution from a neighbor
Speaker 5: for a fence that is built on the boundary as
Speaker 5: an exactly on the boundary, but you need to do
Speaker 5: so in accordance with the Fencing Act. So part of
Speaker 5: that process is to get some quotes for the fence
Speaker 5: and then put to the neighbor a request essentially with
Speaker 5: a formal letter or some correspondence to say this is
Speaker 5: my intention, and then under the Fencing Act, I'm requesting
Speaker 5: a contribution of half of the value of a standard fence.
Speaker 5: So if you want to do something more than a
Speaker 5: standard fe vent, your neighbor only needs to contribute what
Speaker 5: is considered half of the value of a standard fence.
Speaker 5: So yes, you can.
Speaker 6: It's particular.
Speaker 5: I suppose it's a lot simpler if there is no
Speaker 5: fence there at all at the moment. If there is
Speaker 5: one that's there, then sometimes there's an issue around dereliction
Speaker 5: as an you know, are you wanting to upgrade the
Speaker 5: fence for your benefit and want your neighbor to pay
Speaker 5: for it while the fence itself might be Okay, that's
Speaker 5: a slight different one. So let's assume that there is
Speaker 5: an a fence there or that it's in particularly poor condition. Yes,
Speaker 5: but you need to do it correctly. Oh that was
Speaker 5: the other thing. Actually, really interesting story grab my attention.
Speaker 6: The other day.
Speaker 5: It was a headline, little banner headline online again on
Speaker 5: the Herald website, talking about a neighbor who didn't need
Speaker 5: to contribute to the cost of an upgrade for a
Speaker 5: shared driveway, and it's been a topic that we've talked
Speaker 5: about on the show on number of occasions, so I'll
Speaker 5: dive into that in a minute as well. But with
Speaker 5: regard to the fence, yes, you can request a contribution
Speaker 5: from your neighbor. You have to do it under the
Speaker 5: Fencing Act. Go and have a look online for a
Speaker 5: bit more information on that and another quick text as well.
Speaker 5: Hey Pete, we had a kitchen leak under the cabinets
Speaker 5: onto the subfloor. Gray water from the dishwasher drain hose
Speaker 5: being gray water, does all particle board that's been in
Speaker 5: contact need to be replaced? Some parts have lost all integrity,
Speaker 5: so definitely being replaced, But wondering about the sound spots
Speaker 5: that have been wet now but are dry. Look some
Speaker 5: gray water is not the end of the world. Obviously,
Speaker 5: particle board doesn't really like being wet. In the trade,
Speaker 5: we tend to talk about it as turning into week books,
Speaker 5: which is probably not inappropriate. So I think those areas
Speaker 5: that have lost integrity. It's soft and you can tell
Speaker 5: that even if it's dried out, it's going to have
Speaker 5: no strength. Cut those pieces out, replace them, ideally with
Speaker 5: some flooring plywood, sysantannalized plywood. But areas that might have
Speaker 5: got wet but have dried out and are now sound,
Speaker 5: I would leave those there. I don't think you need
Speaker 5: to go chopping up all of the floor just for
Speaker 5: a leak, although it sounds like it's been a long
Speaker 5: term leak if it's allowed the particleboard to deteriorate to
Speaker 5: that stage. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 5: the number to call, just on the fence of the
Speaker 5: driveway story. Again, it's worth having a look online search
Speaker 5: for the story. So it was a slightly unusual situation
Speaker 5: in that the driveway was shared by let's say ten households.
Speaker 6: It was quite a large number.
Speaker 5: Of households had access to the driveway. It was obviously
Speaker 5: in poor condition. One of the affected parties took it
Speaker 5: upon themselves to coordinate with all of the other affected
Speaker 5: parties and got consent from nine out of the ten parties.
Speaker 6: To control tribute to the work.
Speaker 5: Provided some estimates, but couldn't get in touch with Seemingly
Speaker 5: the owner of one of the properties went ahead and
Speaker 5: did the work and then sent an invoice for one
Speaker 5: tenth of the cost of the job to the homeowner.
Speaker 5: That they had not been able to consult with and
Speaker 5: the homeowner refused to pay or the property owner refused
Speaker 5: to pay, and that went to the disputes tribunal, I think,
Speaker 5: and the dispute tribunal found that, in fact, they didn't
Speaker 5: need to contribute because they hadn't been consulted. And you know,
Speaker 5: potentially there's a whole lot of issues around why that
Speaker 5: person wasn't consulted, why they didn't respond, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 5: But either way, because they hadn't engaged and given consent,
Speaker 5: it would seem they were not then held liable for
Speaker 5: the contribution, which is an interesting one because it is
Speaker 5: something we've talked about on the show.
Speaker 6: Right, let's get into it.
Speaker 5: Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 5: to call Mike, Good morning.
Speaker 4: Morning, an old biller who's one hundred and four years old.
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, and Canry got quite a bad squeaky fall.
Speaker 5: Problem all through the house or just in a few
Speaker 5: spots and.
Speaker 4: Mainly in your traffic areas, but most rooms here and
Speaker 4: I'll pulled the carpet up. I'm go go cup of
Speaker 4: place coming on Tuesday at media and I got a
Speaker 4: I've got an e gun with a D guns yep,
Speaker 4: yesterday and I was trying to like nail down the
Speaker 4: bad areas and I can get it pretty good, but
Speaker 4: not one hundred.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Look, I think with those sorts of things, you probably
Speaker 5: won't get it to one hundred. To be fair, the
Speaker 5: thought of you using a nail gun to nail down
Speaker 5: what I presume is nice old coworie floorboards, anyone who's
Speaker 5: ever done renovations will be it makes my fingers twitch basically,
Speaker 5: But anyway, we'll put that aside. M Yeah, look, I
Speaker 5: think you're doing the right thing. As in, I was
Speaker 5: going to ask, is it your intention to poly eurethane
Speaker 5: the floors and have them looking really great or you're
Speaker 5: just going to carpet over the top.
Speaker 6: If you are going to carpet over the top, that's good.
Speaker 5: Are the nails that you're using annually grooved nails probably
Speaker 5: not so. Flooring nails typically have like ribben ribs around them,
Speaker 5: like a that run around the shank of the nail,
Speaker 5: and what that does is it binds better, right, So
Speaker 5: typical nail guns don't necessarily have that. And also yours
Speaker 5: will have a nice big d head on them as well,
Speaker 5: which is to be fair and going to look a
Speaker 5: bit ugly nailed down through the floor. So again, if
Speaker 5: it was me, I would have perhaps gone through, punched
Speaker 5: some of the existing nails and added some flooring nails
Speaker 5: next to it. Given them you're going to be carpeting
Speaker 5: it and that will get rid of most of the squeaks.
Speaker 5: If there's an area where it's particularly bad, you might
Speaker 5: need to go underneath the floor and screw a cleat
Speaker 5: to the joist and then fix upwards and pull the
Speaker 5: floorboard down, or in some cases it's on my list
Speaker 5: of jobs to do, actually fix pieces apply to the
Speaker 5: underside so that all of the boards are bonded together.
Speaker 5: But look, in general, I think Mike, you're probably on
Speaker 5: the on the right track. Again, slightly horrifying thought of
Speaker 5: you using a nail gun on a nice old Cowie floor,
Speaker 5: but you're on the right track and you might just
Speaker 5: get it to a point where that's the best that
Speaker 5: you can do with that unless you start doing things
Speaker 5: like cleats and brackets and blocking underneath.
Speaker 6: Good luck.
Speaker 5: Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is then number to
Speaker 5: call Jamie. Good morning, Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Good things?
Speaker 10: Just as just a sort of a query curved jib.
Speaker 10: Yes you can. Yeah, I'm doing a sort of L
Speaker 10: shaped building that I'm doing my backyard, and yeah, I've
Speaker 10: sort of been a slightly weird I wanted to be
Speaker 10: curved rather than a nice degree angle.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 10: For what sort of radius can you do with jib?
Speaker 5: I think typically anything less than about a six to
Speaker 5: seven hundred radius gets really hard to do. Oh okay,
Speaker 5: but yeah, so you know, don't expect that, let's say
Speaker 5: you have one hundred and fifty mili radius on a corner,
Speaker 5: that you'll be able to do that.
Speaker 6: I don't think you will be able to.
Speaker 5: So typically the way that I've done it in the past,
Speaker 5: and I've actually done a couple of houses that had
Speaker 5: I did one house it was quite a while ago
Speaker 5: that had like a center point and then a series
Speaker 5: of concentric rings from that center point, and then eventually
Speaker 5: some some wings that were regular you know, ninety degree
Speaker 5: in straight walls and that sort of thing. So I
Speaker 5: had a whole series of walls, but that was radius
Speaker 5: of about anywhere from two and a half to four
Speaker 5: to six meters, right, So a series of all that's what.
Speaker 10: I'm looking at all, I'll not talk one, okay, all right.
Speaker 5: So typically what I would do is I would get
Speaker 5: my sheet and I would wet the sheet just with
Speaker 5: some water on a sponge, so you're not just pouring
Speaker 5: water on it with a hose and drape it over
Speaker 5: like a sawhorse or something like that. So you've got
Speaker 5: a rough idea of what the radius is. You take
Speaker 5: the sheet, you wet both sides of the sheet, and
Speaker 5: you just let it settle and start to sag into
Speaker 5: roughly the radius that you're wanting. And then even while
Speaker 5: it's a little bit wet, but I tend to let
Speaker 5: it dry a little bit. Then I'll pick the sheet
Speaker 5: up once it's got its shape and then fix it
Speaker 5: to the wall. So a little bit of patience, but yeah,
Speaker 5: it definitely is doable.
Speaker 10: Definitely is doable.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, right, have a look. Take care.
Speaker 5: I think in the JIB Guide, which is available both
Speaker 5: as a hard copy if you rang JIB, I'm sure
Speaker 5: they'd send you one, or certainly it's available online and
Speaker 5: you can get it as an app on your phone.
Speaker 5: Might have some detail around that, but yeap curving plaster
Speaker 5: board in general and jib bored in particular, not too
Speaker 5: many problems. Nice challenge. Actually, that's how I'd say it.
Speaker 5: Six twenty nine Here at News Talks B, eight hundred
Speaker 5: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Got a
Speaker 5: couple of decent texts coming in. We'll have a look
Speaker 5: at those in the moment. We'll take short break, then
Speaker 5: we'll talk to Chris back in a moment. Your News
Speaker 5: B taking your calls. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
Speaker 5: the number to call. Just bear in mind slightly truncated
Speaker 5: program in terms of the building. Today we have live
Speaker 5: commentary of the All Blacks v. France live from Star
Speaker 5: de France. At that match kicks off at nine o'clocks.
Speaker 5: We'll hand over to the commentary team from about eight
Speaker 5: forty five this morning. Rid climb Pass will be joining
Speaker 5: us earlier.
Speaker 6: I'm going to.
Speaker 5: Interview the apprentice Carpentry Apprentice of the Year straight.
Speaker 6: After eight o'clock.
Speaker 5: We've got an in depth look at some issues around
Speaker 5: double glazing with Nick Hardy Jones at seven forty five.
Speaker 5: So that's my way of saying, now is a really
Speaker 5: good time to call our eight hundred and eighty ten
Speaker 5: eighty is that number? Hello, Chris, Yeah, there you go,
Speaker 5: not too bad.
Speaker 9: I'll just find the whole thing interesting.
Speaker 6: Yes, if.
Speaker 9: The whole happening to pay half thing, I find a
Speaker 9: bit odd. Basically, what I was thinking was, it's purely
Speaker 9: hypothetical because I've got a sent between me and an
Speaker 9: extra labor, so it's not to build me. But what
Speaker 9: happened is so your next door neighbor, what's the bull
Speaker 9: of beans? And you disagree that you want defense because
Speaker 9: you've never had events and the last neighbor that was
Speaker 9: living there didn't want me either. Do you have any actually,
Speaker 9: will say? And can you actually if they have the
Speaker 9: right to build a fence on the borderline, which is
Speaker 9: measure you independent land.
Speaker 6: Well, no, there's no such.
Speaker 10: Down.
Speaker 5: No, no, because that would be criminal damage. It's a
Speaker 5: to be fair, it's a very interesting question because I
Speaker 5: guess I don't know that you would actually have a
Speaker 5: right to object to a fence right. So the Fencing
Speaker 5: actors there to provide for some some legislative framework around
Speaker 5: how to negotiate how a fence. I don't know that
Speaker 5: it provides for a neighbor who decides they don't want
Speaker 5: a fence. So I think that under the Fencing Act,
Speaker 5: you can pretty much demand a contribution from a neighbor
Speaker 5: for a fence. So if you've decided, hey, look i'm
Speaker 5: quite happy without one, but the neighbor goes, we've got
Speaker 5: a dog or we've got small children and we want
Speaker 5: more privacy, we're going to put one in. Then you
Speaker 5: can use the Fencing Act to ensure that a neighbor contributes,
Speaker 5: because ultimately you still get a benefit from it even
Speaker 5: if you don't want it because you've ended up with
Speaker 5: a fence.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, but what if it's not a benefit.
Speaker 9: What if it's blocking your view, or what if it's
Speaker 9: making it harder to park your car.
Speaker 5: Or if it's things like parking your car. That's more
Speaker 5: about you've enjoyed the use of somebody else's space and
Speaker 5: now they're going to insist that you own you use
Speaker 5: your space.
Speaker 9: Sad, pretty complicated, man. I wouldn't want to be a
Speaker 9: lawyer for the Fencing Act.
Speaker 5: It's I mean, that's why we had the lawyer on
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago, who was outstanding. Actually he
Speaker 5: was great and about this, but it looks so I
Speaker 5: think that if if your neighbor insisted on it, and
Speaker 5: they use the Fencing Act. I think they would probably
Speaker 5: most likely be able to get a contribution from you.
Speaker 5: That's how I see it. Appreciate you call Chris, thank
Speaker 5: you very much. She just on that someone has text
Speaker 5: through standard fence. Even a formal definition of that is
Speaker 5: very open to interpretation and opens up a can of
Speaker 5: worms peak. Well not really actually, So a standard fence
Speaker 5: is defined in the Act as one hundred by one
Speaker 5: hundred posts at around two meters centers three rails, so
Speaker 5: either three two or four to two rails, and six
Speaker 5: one twenty five rough sword boards to one point eight
Speaker 5: meters high right closely abut it. So that's pretty much
Speaker 5: the definition in the Act for a standard fence. So
Speaker 5: obviously one person gets the good side of the fence
Speaker 5: eye the palings, and the other person gets not so
Speaker 5: good side of the fence, which is the rails. And
Speaker 5: you can figure that out between you. But that's the
Speaker 5: definition of a standard fence. It used to be a
Speaker 5: standard fence used to be until gosh, I think it
Speaker 5: was some time.
Speaker 6: In the mid eighties.
Speaker 5: Roughly a standard fence was defined as some raratars and
Speaker 5: three rows of number eight fencing white. That was a
Speaker 5: standard fence. But nowadays it is the timber, and so
Speaker 5: that's pretty easy definition of what is a standard fence.
Speaker 5: A couple of other texts as well that have come
Speaker 5: in and taking your calls obviously, because the lines are
Speaker 5: open for you right now. Hey peaked thirty five years ago.
Speaker 5: I was building homes in New South Wales and they
Speaker 5: require all wet areas of every house to be flawed
Speaker 5: with tantalized ply just save any damage due to flooding leaking.
Speaker 5: In New Zealand, it's costing an enormous amount of insurance
Speaker 5: money as a result of our continued use of particle board.
Speaker 5: Y oh, why it's similar to the leaking the house syndrome.
Speaker 5: We turn a blind eye to this one. Terry, I've
Speaker 5: got good news for you. I can't recall the last
Speaker 5: time you could use particle board as a substrate for
Speaker 5: flooring in a wet area, I think almost exclusively. Now
Speaker 5: if you do use it, you have to waterproof it
Speaker 5: or in most cases, particularly in bathrooms, there is no
Speaker 5: way that you would get compliance to use anything other
Speaker 5: than treated ply typically in bathrooms. I'm sure there are
Speaker 5: some group home builders who have worked out another way
Speaker 5: of getting around it. In general, it's tantalized ply right
Speaker 5: throughout any wet area and slightly beyond the actual footprint
Speaker 5: of that space as well. So yeah, if it does leak,
Speaker 5: at least while in the time that it takes you
Speaker 5: to identify the leak, you're not getting as much damage
Speaker 5: to the substrate. If it's analized PLI then if it
Speaker 5: was the old fashioned particle board. So I think generally
Speaker 5: we've learned our lesson on that one. Thanks for your text, Terry, Oh,
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Speaker 5: One other question that came in AH currently sourcing quotes
Speaker 5: for a replacement pool decking and boundary fence question what
Speaker 5: product is best UPBC composite or would for the fence?
Speaker 5: Would metal panels be less expensive than would Also should
Speaker 5: I be checking that the builders are registered Master builders?
Speaker 5: Thanks from joy Um.
Speaker 6: Okay.
Speaker 5: In terms of construction, let's deal with that first. It's possibly, well,
Speaker 5: it probably isn't restricted building work in the sense that
Speaker 5: it doesn't necessarily need to be done by a licensed
Speaker 5: building practitioner. But given that you're doing it around the pool,
Speaker 5: for example, and your fencing is going to become part
Speaker 5: of the pool, fencing legislator or has to comply with it.
Speaker 5: Then ideally you'd be using a License Building Practitioners an LBP.
Speaker 5: That would be a good idea. And in terms of
Speaker 5: product and that sort of thing, Look, there's so much
Speaker 5: choice out there at the moment. In some cases it
Speaker 5: comes down to personal preference, and it might be that
Speaker 5: you know timber around a pool, Possibly a composite has
Speaker 5: some advantages there because it will respond better to getting
Speaker 5: wet and drying out, you won't have as much movement, etc.
Speaker 5: In terms of metal panels are probably less expensive than
Speaker 5: would because you can do components. Also, you can do
Speaker 5: metal panels with verticals in them typical pool fencing, and
Speaker 5: that's a lot less work than trying to do pool
Speaker 5: fencing in timber where you have issues about climbability. So
Speaker 5: it's a long winded way of saying there's a lot
Speaker 5: of choices. You just ultimately make up your own mind.
Speaker 5: Oh eight one hundred and eighty is that number to
Speaker 5: call if you've got a question. Hopefully I've got an answer.
Speaker 5: Ross A very good morning to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning guys. Look what I did, and I
Speaker 3: did a renovation in a house about three years ago.
Speaker 3: I did penalize. Fine, they're obviously made sense. But they're
Speaker 3: also under the dishwasher. I drilled some holes what well,
Speaker 3: because there was a basement to just and a ground basement.
Speaker 3: And if the water ever leaked out of the dishwasher,
Speaker 3: the little holes are about a quarter a half an
Speaker 3: inch or three eighths of an inch. Yep, they ever leaked,
Speaker 3: the water would just.
Speaker 6: Go strain rather than okay, who would just strain away?
Speaker 3: Yeah, go straight through and instead of pulling. Yes, and
Speaker 3: so they were ratproof. MYCEO, rats or anything couldn't get
Speaker 3: up right.
Speaker 5: And yeah, look, I do like the practicality of your solution,
Speaker 5: but I mean you wouldn't find it anywhere in the
Speaker 5: building code. But I get the practicality of it. If
Speaker 5: it's going to flood, then at least it's got somewhere
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 3: There was only half a dozen holes. It's all the
Speaker 3: way around thee of THEA.
Speaker 5: And the space below. Obviously it wasn't habitable space. It
Speaker 5: was just a basement space. Yeah, it's not like a
Speaker 5: dripped down onto the head of the person sleeping below. No, no,
Speaker 5: all right.
Speaker 3: But the other thing is that guy that you mentioned
Speaker 3: about the driveway and one tenth of the guys if
Speaker 3: they couldn't, if they couldn't contact them when they sent
Speaker 3: all the information about proposed contribution for a driveway, and
Speaker 3: then they sent and they couldn't get any response from
Speaker 3: him for her or her, and they sent the bill
Speaker 3: to him in the end and they responded. I mean,
Speaker 3: that's not very fair. Obviously they were they had their
Speaker 3: right address and the right communication. So the person decided
Speaker 3: not to respond in the initial approaches that we budget
Speaker 3: to the driveway, and then they refused, obviously through writing
Speaker 3: or correspondence, to refuse it to the account.
Speaker 10: How does that work?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that is the fascinating part of it. And
Speaker 5: I had the same sentiment as you that obviously at
Speaker 5: a certain point the person was contactable but decided not
Speaker 5: to engage in the discussion before the work was done.
Speaker 5: But then was did engage when suddenly the invoice turns up, right,
Speaker 5: And I think you got a sense in the online
Speaker 5: article that I read that you know, the collective, let's say,
Speaker 5: in the person driving the process just decided, look, we
Speaker 5: can't keep waiting, let's just get on and get it done.
Speaker 5: And it was just that simple act of going, we're
Speaker 5: not going to wait for this last person to respond,
Speaker 5: let's get it done. And I guess the hope of
Speaker 5: the expectation was, surely they'll be reasonable and make some contribution,
Speaker 5: because they've obviously got the benefit of it.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: But from a legal point of view, because they didn't
Speaker 5: get the consent from that person, that person then didn't
Speaker 5: wasn't held responsible for that portion of the invoice.
Speaker 3: They said the initial correspondence to by registered mail that
Speaker 3: would have that's indicated they were to received it because.
Speaker 5: But receiving Yeah, but in this instance, receiving some correspondent
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily imply that you've accepted the outcome, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, So you would have to in this situation.
Speaker 5: I think the adjudicator was simply looking for, Hey, look
Speaker 5: everyone's agreed, this person hasn't. Therefore I'm not going to
Speaker 5: enforce the payment on that person, saying that you would
Speaker 5: think that people would do the right thing anyway. I
Speaker 5: found it really fair, you know, because on this show
Speaker 5: we've talked about it a number of times.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 5: You know, shared driveways are not uncommon, they do require maintenance,
Speaker 5: and generally you expect that everyone contributes somehow. But in
Speaker 5: this case they didn't.
Speaker 3: Fascinating, So it brings it brings up the other point,
Speaker 3: who how do they share out his one tenth of
Speaker 3: the year. Do they go back to all the other
Speaker 3: owners that agreed to their one tenth and say, now
Speaker 3: we've got to divide this by nine as set as gain.
Speaker 5: Well, that would be fascinating, wouldn't it. And yeah, you
Speaker 5: know it'd be a fairly frosty reception down the driveway.
Speaker 3: If you organize the have to suck it up and say, well, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm responsible for this.
Speaker 5: I wonder whether that was the case. Actually fascinating. How
Speaker 5: nice of you to call Ross, You have a great day,
Speaker 5: all the best. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Speaker 5: is the number, and be good morning to.
Speaker 11: You, good morning, Hell are you very well?
Speaker 6: Thank you?
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 11: That's good on the slovety weekend. Now, I think I've
Speaker 11: signed you up once before regarding my house, so I'll
Speaker 11: give you another call. Yeah, okay, So we're heaving like
Speaker 11: kind of issues which we weren't aware of when we
Speaker 11: first brought the house parts, like if we have the
Speaker 11: washing machine and the drag going like in winter, and
Speaker 11: then we have the heater in the hallway going. Sometimes
Speaker 11: the few not the fuse, but the box will just pop,
Speaker 11: will just switch off, so part of the house will
Speaker 11: be in darkness compared to another part. Now what I
Speaker 11: need to like Now we've we've actually had some are
Speaker 11: up here to read fix it kind of thing, and
Speaker 11: they've put a bigger ampen, but apparently it's not working.
Speaker 11: Now we have been told that we can't caught any
Speaker 11: more bigger ampen otherwise we would need to rewire the house.
Speaker 11: Now the question is is it I mean, like because
Speaker 11: it's going to be rewin or maybe reward. We are
Speaker 11: now getting power on into the garage which is connected
Speaker 11: to the house, So would that make things worse? I mean,
Speaker 11: would we be able to say, play our freezer and
Speaker 11: there in another fridge in there, or wouldn't it be
Speaker 11: advised to get that done yet?
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, look, I'm going to start by saying
Speaker 5: I'm not a registered electrician and that ultimately you should
Speaker 5: get advice from a registered electrician on all of these matters.
Speaker 5: But if, for example, and I have had a similar
Speaker 5: issue with a property that I know actually not that
Speaker 5: long ago, where if the dryer and the washing machine
Speaker 5: were on at the same time, it would trip at
Speaker 5: the board, right, So had the electrician come through change
Speaker 5: some of the breakers, but there's only so much do
Speaker 5: with existing wiring. So if there are too many outlets
Speaker 5: on a particular circuit and it's older wiring, then yes,
Speaker 5: from a safety point of view, the board will trip,
Speaker 5: which is what it should do rather than overheating the
Speaker 5: circuits and so on. Yeah, So if you were to
Speaker 5: and obviously if you're going to take power from your
Speaker 5: manes or from your distribution board and run it out
Speaker 5: to the garage, you'll need to the electrician will know
Speaker 5: what type of cable and whether you've got sufficient supply
Speaker 5: to the house to be able to supply the garret.
Speaker 5: And then you put some items out there, you will
Speaker 5: reduce the load inside the house and that might help
Speaker 5: you as well.
Speaker 6: So you know, theoretically, yeah.
Speaker 11: I know that it does have a circuit board inside
Speaker 11: the garage, so yeah, it's got its own board. Well
Speaker 11: it did, yeah, but it was broken.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Well, if.
Speaker 5: It's already got a board in the garret, so sub board.
Speaker 5: Then as long as the electric is confident that the
Speaker 5: cable that runs from your house to the board is
Speaker 5: of sufficient size, then yes, you could upgrade the board there,
Speaker 5: add some outlets and put some of those appliances out there.
Speaker 11: Oh good. Now, one last thing is is it possible
Speaker 11: to I mean, because I know rewiring the house is
Speaker 11: very expensive, or it could be Is it possible to
Speaker 11: do bits by bit rewiring or does it have to
Speaker 11: be done in one go? But for the whole house?
Speaker 6: How old is the house?
Speaker 11: It was built in nineteen Oh, my gosh, was it
Speaker 11: nineteen seventy? Okay, so it's not six it's not really old. No, No,
Speaker 11: it was built in the seventies.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 5: I wonder whether you'd be well served by getting sort
Speaker 5: of a second opinion from another electrician or from an
Speaker 5: electrical engineer, an electrical specter, just around that, because you
Speaker 5: might find actually that the wires themselves, the actual physical
Speaker 5: wire is sufficient, but it might be that you've got
Speaker 5: too many outlets on a particular circuit. So typically when
Speaker 5: you're wiring a house you limit the number of outlets. Now,
Speaker 5: over that time, if someone has gone in and went, oh, actually,
Speaker 5: i'll tell you what, it would be great if I
Speaker 5: had an other PowerPoint there and another one there, and
Speaker 5: they've simply looped off the existing one then possibly you'd
Speaker 5: find so you'd want to have someone come through and
Speaker 5: do a proper survey and test everything, figure out how
Speaker 5: many outlets are connected to a particular circuit. That might
Speaker 5: be part of the issue that the rewiring. The idea
Speaker 5: of pulling all of those wires out and replacing them,
Speaker 5: You're right, that's really difficult to do an insisting house
Speaker 5: because you might end up having to cut holes in
Speaker 5: the wall and those sorts of things. I would be
Speaker 5: a little bit surprised if that was actually required. I
Speaker 5: think it's more likely you might have to run some
Speaker 5: new circuit, which means putting in an updated board with
Speaker 5: modern breakers on it, for example, which would also be
Speaker 5: safer for the property. And in some cases you may
Speaker 5: not need to replace all of the wires as such.
Speaker 5: But hey, look, I think getting a second opinion, and
Speaker 5: certainly maybe getting sort of a professional opinion from an
Speaker 5: electrical inspector would be money well spent. Good luck on
Speaker 5: that one. Be take a break, We'll come back and
Speaker 5: talk to Carl in just a moment. A text with
Speaker 5: regard to that issue around the driveway and the sharing
Speaker 5: of costs and so on, suggest you're getting lost in
Speaker 5: the weeds re the shared ownership of the drive issue,
Speaker 5: as there would be legal ownership structure for the drive
Speaker 5: and accordingly an agreement and process for repairs costs. So
Speaker 5: what you've outlined all sounds like bs with respect. No,
Speaker 5: so have a look at the article online. That's what
Speaker 5: I'm reporting on or recounting, is that there may well
Speaker 5: have been a process, but either way the process wasn't followed,
Speaker 5: and therefore one of the ten people that has access
Speaker 5: and shared ownership of the driveway didn't end up needing
Speaker 5: to contribute to the repair done by one of the
Speaker 5: other owners with the agreement of the other parties. So
Speaker 5: at eight balls, I was going to say the word
Speaker 5: it's not have a look at the article online. I
Speaker 5: agree there probably is some legal structure, but either way,
Speaker 5: the process wasn't followed, and the person when in front
Speaker 5: of the dispute stribunal, the adjudicator said no, I'm not
Speaker 5: going to enforce an order for you to contribute your
Speaker 5: one tenth share of the cost of the repairs. So
Speaker 5: have a look at the article online for your fire
Speaker 5: off texts. Righty oh, we are back straight after news,
Speaker 5: sport and weather. Remember we've got the all Blacks at
Speaker 5: nine o'clock this morning as well, so we'll hand over
Speaker 5: to the commentary team at around eight forty five back
Speaker 5: after the break. Welcome back to the program. Pete wolf
Speaker 5: Camp is my name. This is the resident builder on Sunday,
Speaker 5: and thanks for joining us. It's a real pleasure. Oh
Speaker 5: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
Speaker 5: to call nine two ninety two for the texts, and
Speaker 5: email is Pete Atnewstalk zb dot co dot nz. So
Speaker 5: we'll take your calls on to be fair whatever's in
Speaker 5: front of you with regard to building. So on the program,
Speaker 5: we've talked about tongue grew flooring, We've talked about curving jimboard,
Speaker 5: we've talked about fencing, we've talked about wet areas, we've
Speaker 5: talked a little bit about electrical We're going to have
Speaker 5: a chat with Carl in just a moment and if
Speaker 5: you'd like to join us, the number is eight hundred
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty. Quick rundown of what we're doing
Speaker 5: this morning at around seven forty five, we can take
Speaker 5: a deep dive into some of the kind of practical
Speaker 5: considerations around retrofit double glazing. So if you've got existing
Speaker 5: joinery that is single glazed and you want to move
Speaker 5: to double glazing for a whole bunch of reasons that
Speaker 5: we already know make a massive difference to the performance
Speaker 5: of your house. You can do that, but let's have
Speaker 5: a deep dive into what types of sashes and what
Speaker 5: the process is. We'll do that with Nikkarti Jones after
Speaker 5: the news at eight o'clock, we didn't catch up with
Speaker 5: a young man by the name of Hunter Moon who
Speaker 5: was awarded the title of Carpentry Apprentice of the Year.
Speaker 5: Actually when along had to look at the practical test
Speaker 5: for that and then attended the gala dinner and had
Speaker 5: to look at what all of the competitors were outstanding.
Speaker 5: In order to get to the national final, you had
Speaker 5: to win your re each and or final. And so
Speaker 5: we're going to have a quick chat with Hunter at
Speaker 5: a round just after eight o'clock. The root Climb Pass
Speaker 5: will be joining us earlier so that we still get
Speaker 5: a good half hour of gardening in because at quarter
Speaker 5: to nine, at eight forty five, we are going to
Speaker 5: hand over to the commentary team. The All Blacks are
Speaker 5: playing France in France in Paris and we will take
Speaker 5: live commentary from nine o'clock and we'll start that commentary
Speaker 5: at about quarter to eight, quarter to nine this morning.
Speaker 5: That's the lineup. Give us a call right now. Oh
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Hello Carl,
Speaker 5: thanks for waiting.
Speaker 3: Good morning.
Speaker 6: How are you good?
Speaker 12: I don't even if you can't help me. But I
Speaker 12: bought an old house on a bit of land and
Speaker 12: gives them about twenty five years ago, and I've subdivised it,
Speaker 12: built a couple of little houses. But the last three
Speaker 12: sections there's we've just done a big geotech report and
Speaker 12: it's contaminated all us. Apparently the guy that owned the
Speaker 12: place before me to drop pass seal all sorts of
Speaker 12: bits and pieces and so, accorded to a geotech report.
Speaker 12: The seven hundred and fifty cubic meters of cheap contaminated
Speaker 12: material to go to why he from Grisbine. It's about
Speaker 12: seventy five truckloads at my expense.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 12: I just wondered if I had any sort of come
Speaker 12: back on councer or anything like that, or yeah, I
Speaker 12: bought it in good faith obviously.
Speaker 5: Yes, but you didn't buy it from council you would
Speaker 5: have bought it from a private individual who owned that land. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and then they've used it sort of well.
Speaker 12: With your works with somebody like that, to be fair.
Speaker 5: You know, was back in the day not terribly uncommon, right,
Speaker 5: and potentially the person that did the dumping, you know,
Speaker 5: did so maybe even lawfully in a sense, right, in
Speaker 5: the sense that there wouldn't have been the same regulations
Speaker 5: today as there might have been there. So I think, look,
Speaker 5: your chances of having some sort of successful legal outcome
Speaker 5: against either a previous owner or about against council or
Speaker 5: anything like that, you know, slim, right, I mean, look,
Speaker 5: in the end, get legal advice on it. And that's
Speaker 5: ultimately where this might go. Certainly, it would be cost
Speaker 5: prohibitive for you to spend the money you need to
Speaker 5: spend to remediate the land, so excavating seven hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty and if that's seven hundred and fifty cubic meters tight,
Speaker 5: then by the time you excavate, it's going to bulk
Speaker 5: and double in size. So in fact, your seventy five
Speaker 5: truckloads is more like one hundred and fifty truckloads trucking
Speaker 5: those from gisbone to why he to an approved tip site.
Speaker 6: If you said to me, spent quarter.
Speaker 12: Of a million dollars and then you've got to sell
Speaker 12: it back up again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you've got to fill it back up
Speaker 5: again and all the rest of it. To me, it
Speaker 5: feels like the land is just a bit of a
Speaker 5: write off, you know. I mean, and look, that's easy
Speaker 5: for me to say because I don't have my life
Speaker 5: savings tied up in it, and I'm certainly sympathetic, but
Speaker 5: I just from a practical point of view, I can't
Speaker 5: see how the cost to remediate is going to be
Speaker 5: recouped by the profit from the development, I guess is
Speaker 5: what you're saying.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I just said, it's just
Speaker 12: some way around it, was my look.
Speaker 5: I mean, potentially you could talk to some other environmental engineers,
Speaker 5: but again, you know, the hard thing I think with
Speaker 5: having discussions with professionals about this issue is that if
Speaker 5: they give you advice to say this is what's going
Speaker 5: to work, they end up essentially putting their X on
Speaker 5: the chopping block, right, They become liable. So if they
Speaker 5: said to you, oh, well look you could do this,
Speaker 5: here's a solution for you, and then the solution fails
Speaker 5: for some reason, they then become liable and that's why
Speaker 5: typically they are incredibly risk averse, so they're not going
Speaker 5: to give you anything other than a gold plated solution.
Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, just quickly, as an a site, I was
Speaker 5: looking at a building, a large building that was built
Speaker 5: reasonably near an old landfill.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: So again there were issues about contamination in the ground,
Speaker 5: and there was issues around what happens when we put
Speaker 5: a great, big concrete slab over the top of what
Speaker 5: could be methane being released from an old landfill. And
Speaker 5: so in that instance, what was done was the building
Speaker 5: was slightly elevated concrete ring foundation with ventilation so that
Speaker 5: if there was a buildup of methane underneath, it could
Speaker 5: be vented and you could monitor that for a period
Speaker 5: of time some years after the building. We're only talking
Speaker 5: four to five years after the building was built. The
Speaker 5: monitoring has come to an end because the methane levels
Speaker 5: have dropped to the point where anything that was in
Speaker 5: the ground has been exhausted and gone and there's no
Speaker 5: health issues for anyone. But you know, this is this
Speaker 5: was a twelve to fifteen million dollar development, you know,
Speaker 5: and could be managed in that way. That's outside of
Speaker 5: the scope of what you're doing a.
Speaker 12: Oh for sure, yeah, hell yah, yeah, yeah yeah, Okay.
Speaker 5: Look, get legal advice. Please don't take legal advice from me.
Speaker 5: But I suspect that you already know that. Perhaps you're
Speaker 5: just going to say that's going to be a nice
Speaker 5: piece of green space and that's about it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what that's what's taken up to be.
Speaker 5: It makes a nice garden. That's probably not when you
Speaker 5: want to hear. But you could do the right thing
Speaker 5: and plant some natives and get some wildlife back in
Speaker 5: the area. Oh nice, they take care by then. Oh,
Speaker 5: that's not an easy situation to be in.
Speaker 6: That is not easy.
Speaker 5: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to
Speaker 5: talk building, well, I'd love to. Oh, eight hundred eighty
Speaker 5: ten eighties the number. I just got to grab this text.
Speaker 5: This looks fascinating. Is there a time limit for pulling
Speaker 5: down and putting up a fence? The current fence, It
Speaker 5: does about one day a week. The fence has been
Speaker 5: opened for two weeks so far in counting. Look, it
Speaker 5: depends on who's paying for them, right, So if you're
Speaker 5: paying for them, I think it's fair to say I'd
Speaker 5: like you to come and just finish the job.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: If it's something that a neighbor has organized, then you've
Speaker 5: got to go back to the neighbor to do it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: one day a week. It's not really progress, is it.
Speaker 5: They might have a chat to the person. That's the
Speaker 5: best way. And this was a comment from the last hour,
Speaker 5: talking about a house that was built in the seventies
Speaker 5: and me saying it's not that old. Pete, I was
Speaker 5: born in the seventies. Thank you for saying that house
Speaker 5: wasn't that old from us? Fair enough, mate, I was
Speaker 5: born in the sixties. So much, And how I feel.
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
Speaker 5: call and Helga, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 13: Oh hi, I've just bought a brand new town house
Speaker 13: in Avondale. And there's one problem. I've built cupboards which
Speaker 13: are really up high and I'm five foot one right,
Speaker 13: and there's no food pantry cupboard.
Speaker 14: Mm hmm.
Speaker 13: I was wondering is it good like micause? Some probably
Speaker 13: could make it, EASi toilely could make Is it good
Speaker 13: to make it in plywood?
Speaker 5: Certainly you can make cupboards out of Plywood, I would
Speaker 5: cover it. So I think that you know, if you
Speaker 5: did in Plywood and it's going to be in an
Speaker 5: area essentially, which is a food preparation area, you'd want
Speaker 5: to give it a really good coat of polyurethane as well,
Speaker 5: just to seal the plywood.
Speaker 13: Yep, okay, but it's good because of the lighter. He'll
Speaker 13: properly build it out of the house and then bring it.
Speaker 15: Inside and bring it in.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, an extra cabinet or something like that. What's
Speaker 5: great for that?
Speaker 13: Yeah, because I've got my food or in the china
Speaker 13: cabin Oh crazy. I can only pop the way the
Speaker 13: built the place the kitchen as the pops go down
Speaker 13: the barn, and I could never reach up the top
Speaker 13: to pop the food. And it's all too high. And
Speaker 13: even my neighbors that every place, forty six of them,
Speaker 13: little saying.
Speaker 5: I guess I'm curious. Now, did you buy off the
Speaker 5: plans or did you go to an open home have
Speaker 5: a look around.
Speaker 13: I had to go and buy an open home, right,
Speaker 13: I just sold the house and Walkers, yes, and my
Speaker 13: land agents found that I came in that January and
Speaker 13: we found that in August.
Speaker 5: I suppose what I'm curious about is is was it
Speaker 5: something that you overlooked Let's say when you had a
Speaker 5: look at you know, you walk through the house and
Speaker 5: you go, okay, how am I going to live in
Speaker 5: the house. I'll put my couch over there, the TV
Speaker 5: goes over there, here's my kitchen, And did you think
Speaker 5: about food storage and that sort of thing?
Speaker 6: Or is it that I.
Speaker 13: Said that to my son? Yeah, but it's so hard.
Speaker 13: I wanted to brand you. I've looked at so many
Speaker 13: old places.
Speaker 16: Yes, much.
Speaker 13: So. Yeah, good price loose from a seven hundred thousand
Speaker 13: to six seven five.
Speaker 5: There's an upside to a downside. And the downside for
Speaker 5: the industry is that, you know, there's more sellers than
Speaker 5: there are buyers, which means that the price drop. So
Speaker 5: now is a great time to be buying in certain Yeah,
Speaker 5: good on you, Good on you.
Speaker 10: Yep.
Speaker 5: All the very best you, Helga, and all the best
Speaker 5: for the new house as well.
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Speaker 5: Remember at around seven forty five take sort of a
Speaker 5: deep dive into some of the technical aspects, let's say
Speaker 5: of retrofitting double glazing, so swapping from your existing joinery
Speaker 5: from single to double glaze at timber sashes, aluminium sashes,
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. We'll have a deep dive into
Speaker 5: that with Nick Hardy Jones. After eight o'clock we'll be
Speaker 5: talking to the Apprentice of the Year carpetry Apprentice of
Speaker 5: the Year, young man by the name of Hunter Moon.
Speaker 5: We're going to start a bit earlier because we've got
Speaker 5: the All Black kickoff at All Blacks v. France at
Speaker 5: nine o'clock this morning, so we'll hand over the commentary
Speaker 5: team at around eight forty five. Michelle, A very good morning.
Speaker 14: A h good morning. I have question about your house
Speaker 14: and the workmans sheep repair into maintenance issues.
Speaker 16: Yes, I've brought.
Speaker 14: You you have just a sayholder about just about a
Speaker 14: four weeks and there's some problems like pumped nails and
Speaker 14: the painting is shules and door issues in them, but
Speaker 14: lots of other issues. This is bring you them a house,
Speaker 14: you know. I contact them in the developer and the
Speaker 14: project manager and it came to fix it the couple
Speaker 14: of times. But now they stopped fixing it and they
Speaker 14: force something to the lawyer and pass the information to
Speaker 14: my purchase lawyer. So I understand that the purchase is finished.
Speaker 2: Lawyer.
Speaker 14: If I talk, if I use the lawyer, I will
Speaker 14: pay extra cost. My question is I need your help
Speaker 14: to give me some directions to how I can come
Speaker 14: back the developer or the builders to come back to
Speaker 14: fix it, because now they are refused to talk to me,
Speaker 14: to talk of the sailing agent. When I purchase data,
Speaker 14: there there is the leasing agent and buy agent. So
Speaker 14: I start off in the mean of nowhere in the middle.
Speaker 5: Help sure there are rights and responsibilities, right, so the
Speaker 5: builder who might be the developer, still has responsibility for
Speaker 5: the quality of the work and defects for a period
Speaker 5: of time, So typically for one year after you take in.
Speaker 5: Then you know, reasonable defects need to be fixed by
Speaker 5: the developer and they can't really opt out of that.
Speaker 5: So things like you know, fixings popping in the plaster board,
Speaker 5: those sorts of things reasonably should be fixed. If for example,
Speaker 5: a door is sticking or the handle falls off, those
Speaker 5: sorts of things, they have to respond to that for
Speaker 5: at least the first year. Beyond there sometimes you know,
Speaker 5: those things can be seen as wear and tear, but
Speaker 5: certainly for the first year. My understanding is that they
Speaker 5: do need to keep coming back and fix it. Now,
Speaker 5: if they have done a not great job and they've
Speaker 5: got lots of things to fix, that's their problem, not yours, right,
Speaker 5: so I can see what's going to happen. They've come back,
Speaker 5: they've made an effort to fix some things, and then
Speaker 5: they'll say, look, we're not interested in doing anymore. Well,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter that they're not interested. They still have
Speaker 5: a legal responsibility. I do wonder, Michelle, whether you are
Speaker 5: going to have to pay for your lawyer to remind
Speaker 5: them of those legal responsibilities. So you know, there's two options.
Speaker 5: One is that you try and do some research or
Speaker 5: get some advice from someone who's familiar with this. Might
Speaker 5: be a real estate agent, might be a friend, might
Speaker 5: be another builder that you know, and go through find out,
Speaker 5: have a look through your contract, see what's included in
Speaker 5: the contract. Then also have a look at the legislation
Speaker 5: around building defects and send them a letter saying, hey, look,
Speaker 5: can I remind you these things are written in law?
Speaker 5: Or you'll get your lawyer to do exactly that. But
Speaker 5: you're right, if you get your lawyer to do it,
Speaker 5: it is going to cost you.
Speaker 14: Okay, okay, how often do you think you that should
Speaker 14: be or how early it should be done? Because I
Speaker 14: heard something, it's after stay told it should be something.
Speaker 14: Need to be effected within three months.
Speaker 5: Again, I'd have to check the legislation. My understanding was
Speaker 5: that it's.
Speaker 6: Like there is a.
Speaker 5: Requirement to remediate, right, So if there's a fault with
Speaker 5: the building, and it's definitely the builder's fault, they have
Speaker 5: a requirement to fix that. But typically they have up
Speaker 5: to a year to respond.
Speaker 4: Year.
Speaker 14: One year, yeah, I understand, there's one years. We're seen
Speaker 14: one years.
Speaker 5: No, this is this is slightly different. This is because
Speaker 5: remember you know, as as builders, we're responsible for our
Speaker 5: work for up to ten years, right, so things things
Speaker 5: like you know, if if the deck starts to sag,
Speaker 5: or the floor SAgs, or there's excessive cracking in the walls,
Speaker 5: those sorts of things we're responsible for up to ten years. Now,
Speaker 5: if you had a big issue in five years time,
Speaker 5: seemingly a prompt response from the builder is actually to
Speaker 5: do it within one year. That's what's in the law
Speaker 5: at the moment.
Speaker 6: I do wonder.
Speaker 5: Whether you the quickest way to get them back is
Speaker 5: probably to go to your lawyer, get them to draft
Speaker 5: a letter reminding them of their responsibilities and and see
Speaker 5: if that works.
Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, okay, it's I know it would be nice
Speaker 16: if you could simply, you know, send an email saying, hey, look,
Speaker 16: by the way, here's some photographs of some things that
Speaker 16: are not right with the house.
Speaker 5: Could you send someone over to fix it. But developers
Speaker 5: don't typically have a great reputation around these sorts of things,
Speaker 5: depending on whether you've you've used a company that's well
Speaker 5: known or a company that perhaps got established last year
Speaker 5: and will probably be gone next year. You know, this
Speaker 5: is the problem we have with the industry.
Speaker 14: Right you know, tool they build, how did they build
Speaker 14: a one property set up in your register with the
Speaker 14: one one your company and were startled at this class company?
Speaker 14: What I mean, because there's a lot of issus and
Speaker 14: problems on the wall, and it's really effect to my
Speaker 14: everyday's life because when they come to paint the war
Speaker 14: in a scratchy and plastic and stand it in the paint,
Speaker 14: there's a lot of fast and I so my furnitures
Speaker 14: I cannot close to the war, but I have to
Speaker 14: prepare for them to come back to fix it. You know,
Speaker 14: also from the experience, the last couple of times become
Speaker 14: we donut know this so because other houses not so
Speaker 14: it though, so they come and see, oh if i'm home,
Speaker 14: they come to fix it. They don't make appointment, so.
Speaker 5: It doesn't give me come to It's not terribly professional,
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess the other approach might be, if
Speaker 5: you think that there's a general issue with the quality
Speaker 5: of the building, is you could get someone like a
Speaker 5: registered building surveyor to come and do a report and
Speaker 5: then hand that report back to the developer and they
Speaker 5: might be able to give you some guidance. But that's
Speaker 5: also going to cost you, which is fair enough. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So look, I think in the first instance, Michelle, I
Speaker 5: would probably suggest that you're going to have to talk
Speaker 5: to your lawyer about understanding exactly what your rights are
Speaker 5: and then enforcing on them the responsibility that they have
Speaker 5: as the builder or the developer and go from there. So, yes,
Speaker 5: you're probably going to end up spending some money unfortunately
Speaker 5: to do that.
Speaker 6: Thank you very much for your call. Really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: You talk said b if you've got a building question,
Speaker 5: well I'll have a read hot crack at giving you
Speaker 5: a decent answer on it.
Speaker 6: Very good morning to you.
Speaker 16: Richard.
Speaker 7: Hey you going, Peter, good Thank you. So I'm a
Speaker 7: painter slash handy man, and I bought a rental property
Speaker 7: in twenty seventeen, I think, and I didn't get a
Speaker 7: builder's report because this property was really in real bad condition,
Speaker 7: and I've spent the last however long since twenty seventeen
Speaker 7: fixing it. It's a really nice property. It's solid, it's
Speaker 7: well painted. Now we just put it in the kitchen
Speaker 7: and polished the floors and so we just finished. The
Speaker 7: last bit of renovation was to put a new roof on.
Speaker 7: And so the roof, I don't know how old it was,
Speaker 7: thirty five maybe forty years. It was a split split
Speaker 7: carrigate line and the roofer pulled the roof off and
Speaker 7: he's found that there's been a fire in the roof
Speaker 7: which has affected possibly thirty percent of the roof, and
Speaker 7: a lot of the trusses are scorched, but they're solid.
Speaker 7: He jumped up and down on them. Whoever, whoever's remediated
Speaker 7: it did a decent job. And then they put a
Speaker 7: new roof on. It used to be a concrete tile
Speaker 7: roof because it had all the bracing to hold the tile.
Speaker 7: So we're thinking me and the roof a sort of
Speaker 7: had a chat. We're thinking it's possibly thirty five years
Speaker 7: ago all.
Speaker 17: More that this roof had the fire right.
Speaker 7: So it's all solid. But I mean there's there's a
Speaker 7: good deal of trusses that would possibly need to be replaced.
Speaker 5: When you say it's been remediated, what have they done
Speaker 5: for the remediation if they fixed new timber to the
Speaker 5: old existing timber.
Speaker 7: Yes, yes, so they obviously removed all the concrete tiles.
Speaker 7: They left all the bracing for the concrete tiles there,
Speaker 7: and they just put iron down on it. But they
Speaker 7: just made sure everything was solid, so there's no there's
Speaker 7: no worry about you know, the roof is going to
Speaker 7: cave in or anything, and it's nowt It's now got
Speaker 7: a new roof of new perlins all the way around,
Speaker 7: so it's solid. But I mean, do we leave them there?
Speaker 7: Do we replace them? Does it need to be engineered trusses?
Speaker 7: Does it need to have a consent? I'm not sure
Speaker 7: how to go about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess at the time, ideally the person would
Speaker 5: have got some advice about the remediation, right, so you know,
Speaker 5: timber can take a certain amount of charring and still
Speaker 5: remain still retain its structural integrity. Other pieces of timber,
Speaker 5: or possibly the fixings have deteriorated, and so the structure
Speaker 5: of the roof is then unsound. If someone has done
Speaker 5: a fairly methodical repair to it, fixing new timbers to
Speaker 5: the side of the old ones and ensuring that all
Speaker 5: of the fixings are correct and that you know, connections
Speaker 5: between you know where the rafters meet at the ridge,
Speaker 5: if they've got the right type of connectors, that they're
Speaker 5: fastened down to the top plate, that the bottom cord
Speaker 5: is well connected, that any cross braces are suitably connected,
Speaker 5: and so on. You know, again it's now a lightweight roof.
Speaker 5: If you look at how people built roofs up until
Speaker 5: we all kind of moved to trusses, roofs were often
Speaker 5: what we call throwing right, so you'd put your top
Speaker 5: plate up, or you'd stand all your frames and then
Speaker 5: you'd figure out where your ridge line's going, you'd cut
Speaker 5: some rafters and nail the whole thing together. And they've
Speaker 5: lasted for like my place, over one hundred years, right.
Speaker 5: So I'm not suggesting that they would perform as well
Speaker 5: under enormous stress as a modern day trust. Probably wouldn't,
Speaker 5: But if what they've done is reasonable and looks professional,
Speaker 5: then probably it's going to be okay. I mean ultimately,
Speaker 5: what do you think is the issue? Do you think
Speaker 5: the issue is that it hasn't been done well and
Speaker 5: it might collapse, or it has been done well, but
Speaker 5: people because it's got no documentation, people will be cautious
Speaker 5: about it. Or are you thinking when I go to
Speaker 5: sell the properties, someone else is going to see the
Speaker 5: fire damage and it's going to be an issue when
Speaker 5: it comes to resale.
Speaker 7: Well, it's basically the last one. When I sell it,
Speaker 7: it's going to be an issue for resale. But also
Speaker 7: in terms of how the work's been done. It's been
Speaker 7: done by by the owner.
Speaker 10: By the look of.
Speaker 7: It, it is sound. It is, it is, it's not
Speaker 7: going to fall down, but it hasn't been done by
Speaker 7: a builder.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 7: And so the roof is scraped into some of the
Speaker 7: chowering and he said the charring's only five millions. And
Speaker 7: so these are the old removed rafters, yes, and so
Speaker 7: they're sick. They're thicker than a four two. I haven't
Speaker 7: actually measured them, but they're probably well.
Speaker 5: They are genuine four B two, so they would have
Speaker 5: you know, four to two basically as one hundred by fifty,
Speaker 5: whereas modern framing is ninety by forty five.
Speaker 7: So yeah, so now so yeah, so now they're probably
Speaker 7: ninety by forty yeah, and so it's not it's not
Speaker 7: all of it. They've cut a lot of the burnt
Speaker 7: out and joined it with new timbers.
Speaker 5: So yes, a lot of that from a structural point
Speaker 5: of view, A lot of that will be around the
Speaker 5: quality and the detailing of the connections.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 5: So I wonder whether the pathway forward would be to
Speaker 5: have probably an engineer come and do an on site
Speaker 5: assessment and give you a statement to say it sound right,
Speaker 5: and that way it gives you some proof. Again, in
Speaker 5: a situation where I've had where I'm acting for a
Speaker 5: client who's had some work done that council were a
Speaker 5: bit unsure about. It involved a mezzanine storage area, and
Speaker 5: the council went, we don't think that's okay. Now I
Speaker 5: went to an engineer who came, looked at it, did
Speaker 5: some details, some calculations, and said, in my opinion it's sound.
Speaker 5: Now I can offer that back to counsel and go
Speaker 5: I've had an independent assessment from a qualified engineer to
Speaker 5: say there's no issue with this structure. Therefore, you know,
Speaker 5: unless you want to prove that the engineer's wrong, you're
Speaker 5: going to have to.
Speaker 6: Accept the structure.
Speaker 10: Right.
Speaker 5: So you could take a similar approach and go I've
Speaker 5: had a registered engineer determine it. They might then say,
Speaker 5: actually most of it's okay, but you need to do X,
Speaker 5: Y and Z. Some brackets here, some fasteners there, some
Speaker 5: additional bolts, etc. Go ahead and do that, have them
Speaker 5: effectively sign it off, and then keep that on the
Speaker 5: record so that when you do go to sell it,
Speaker 5: someone pops their head up there and goes, gee, there
Speaker 5: was a fire, you can go, yes, there is, and
Speaker 5: it has been remediated, and here's a statement from the
Speaker 5: engineer to say that it is sound.
Speaker 7: That's exactly their advice I needed, I think because I
Speaker 7: was looking at pulling that corner of the roof off
Speaker 7: and getting new trusts made no no.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 5: You know again, typically these things, you know, you've got
Speaker 5: to think about how they were built in the first place, right,
Speaker 5: And it wasn't a truss, and it's been up there
Speaker 5: for fifty odd years, And if the repair is sound,
Speaker 5: then why would you go to all of that extent?
Speaker 5: Can I just be bit cheeky and go. Are you
Speaker 5: a little bit peeves that you didn't spot it when
Speaker 5: you bought the house?
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean so I checked out the whole
Speaker 7: house and I worked out it with solid has come
Speaker 7: off the foundations in one small corner, which I'm going
Speaker 7: to get fixed because the foundations are about fifty mil
Speaker 7: above the driveway and the wall fell off the foundation
Speaker 7: and dropped fifty mils, so it does have problems. I
Speaker 7: did put my head in the ceiling hatch to check
Speaker 7: the insulation and just have a quick look up there
Speaker 7: and above the hatch there's no fire.
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, okay, yep, yeah, understandable. Yeah. I think that's
Speaker 5: your way forward, and maybe talk to Cause again. You know,
Speaker 5: it would be good to get a practical sort of
Speaker 5: engineer to come, so probably someone with a few gray
Speaker 5: hairs and long in the tooth, and maybe talk to
Speaker 5: a couple of chippies that you know, they'll all know
Speaker 5: someone who's got a really practical approach to these things,
Speaker 5: and that's the sort of person that you're looking for. Awesome, awesome,
Speaker 5: lovely talking with you all the best.
Speaker 6: Take care, Sir Richard.
Speaker 5: Back after the break you and new talk s Hered b.
Speaker 5: Nikadi Jones is standing by. We're going to take a
Speaker 5: look at retrofitting double glazing into your existing sashes, so
Speaker 5: we'll have an in depth look at the whole what
Speaker 5: types of sashes and what needs to happen. But first up, David,
Speaker 5: good morning to you.
Speaker 10: Yeah, hi Peter.
Speaker 15: Hey, I built a sheher that quite alied shed some
Speaker 15: time ago and on the side of it has an awning.
Speaker 15: The awning area is sort of around. The area is
Speaker 15: about sixteen meters long four point seven meters wide. I'd
Speaker 15: like to clear that in do I need to do
Speaker 15: another permit declared.
Speaker 5: That I suspect, So what's the purpose? What are you
Speaker 5: going to use that space for workshop?
Speaker 15: For shed? Workshop area? And I'd like to have a
Speaker 15: bit more secure. So yeah, sure they're sitting under there
Speaker 15: and then locked up.
Speaker 5: Is this sen a rural? I mean sixteen meters long,
Speaker 5: it's not the sort of thing, okay, And you needed
Speaker 5: a consent for the shed in the first place.
Speaker 15: Yes, it's all permitive and done properly. Yes, it's quite
Speaker 15: a lot of shed sixteen meters by about twelve and
Speaker 15: a half the shed section.
Speaker 5: Itself, right, So typically I know rural sheds up to
Speaker 5: almost one hundred square meters can be built without necessarily
Speaker 5: requiring a consent. Yours is larger than that, hence the consent.
Speaker 5: I think my approach would probably be is to dig
Speaker 5: out the original consent documents and especially the consent number.
Speaker 5: Go to your local authority, the people that issued the
Speaker 5: building consent, and you know, maybe go in and sit.
Speaker 5: They often have a help desk, sit with one of
Speaker 5: the building inspectors, and go, look, my intention is to
Speaker 5: close this in. I'm not increasing the footprint. It's not
Speaker 5: going to impact on neighbors. I'm going to do it
Speaker 5: in the same way that the building is done. Do
Speaker 5: I need a consent for that? Or can I get
Speaker 5: a dispensation from a building consent given that you're not
Speaker 5: transferring the use. So if you said to me, I
Speaker 5: want to make it habitable, that would be an issue
Speaker 5: those sorts of things. So I think the best approach
Speaker 5: take the consent, go to council, talk to them and
Speaker 5: ask for a dispensation from a building consent. But get
Speaker 5: that in writing.
Speaker 15: Great stuff, all right, sounds good.
Speaker 6: The very best to you. Take care.
Speaker 5: Nick Hardy Jones from Metro Performance Glass. After the news,
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about retrofitting double glazing. If you've
Speaker 5: got a specific question, we'll not be able to fit
Speaker 5: that into the conversation as well. So text through nine
Speaker 5: to nine two. If you've got a specific question around
Speaker 5: retrofitting double glazing, back in the moment your newk'd be
Speaker 5: and joining me this morning. A regular contributed to the show,
Speaker 5: Nick Hardy Jones from Metro Performance Glass.
Speaker 6: Very good morning, Nick, Good morning Peter.
Speaker 5: Hey, Now I think that you know the discussion around
Speaker 5: is double glazing effective, it's pretty much put to bed right.
Speaker 5: We all know that it's way more effective at either
Speaker 5: keeping heat in or keeping heat out and helping with acoustics,
Speaker 5: so you know, and there's lots and lots of data
Speaker 5: and even that INMBI report recently, fifty two percent of
Speaker 5: heat loss can be through the single glazing. So putting
Speaker 5: double glazing is going to address that. Then we get
Speaker 5: into the thorny issue of if we're going to put
Speaker 5: it into existing frames, what's the process. So can we
Speaker 5: just start with timber first because a lot of our
Speaker 5: houses have timber. There's some real advantages to timber. It's
Speaker 5: thermally very efficient. But you know, typically if i've got
Speaker 5: let's say a nineteen sixties house with timber joinery. What's
Speaker 5: the process to retrofit double glazing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, so you're right there. Still they saw
Speaker 8: estimate there's nearly a million homes that have got timber
Speaker 8: joinery in them across New Zealand. So there's still a
Speaker 8: big portion of our stock, and a big chunk of
Speaker 8: that is still single glazed, which is really inefficient. Family.
Speaker 8: So the process to replace those is, first of all,
Speaker 8: we come along, meet with the homeowner and make an
Speaker 8: assessment of the state of the joinery. Timber can suffer
Speaker 8: from quite a bit of rot, but there's ways of
Speaker 8: managing that which is actually quite simple. So we look
Speaker 8: at the timber sashes firstly. The timber sash is the
Speaker 8: is the piece of timber that actually encapsulates the glass.
Speaker 8: It's within the main window frame. Often that's where there's
Speaker 8: a lot of damage or rot within the building. So
Speaker 8: we take a look at those. If those are in
Speaker 8: sound condition, you know, they've been well maintained and kept
Speaker 8: painted and all those good things, then we can simply
Speaker 8: come along and we can remove the sash lay it down.
Speaker 8: We actually cut into the sash around where the glass
Speaker 8: sits to make that rebated deeper. We pop the old
Speaker 8: glass out. We're a site call all of that glass,
Speaker 8: and then we make in a factory a brand new
Speaker 8: double glazed and sealed unit. We come to site, we
Speaker 8: glaze that into the existing sash. We put drainage into
Speaker 8: all of the sashes. Drainage is absolutely critical within windows
Speaker 8: systems to provide the longevity to the double glazed unit.
Speaker 8: To ensure there's drainage in the bottom of these timber sashes,
Speaker 8: and then we put a bead on over top to
Speaker 8: encapsulate the glass in place. And then we can work
Speaker 8: in with you to replace things like hinges, stays and
Speaker 8: handles to make sure they're all working well and to
Speaker 8: really ensure that the sash is actually ceiling really well
Speaker 8: into the frame, so that once you've done all the
Speaker 8: good work of putting a high performing double glaze unit
Speaker 8: into your home, you're not just then going to create
Speaker 8: a lot of So I have a lot of air
Speaker 8: leaks around where that sash meets the frame. So we
Speaker 8: can get a number of tricks of the trade about
Speaker 8: how we deal with those issues as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because like you say, if you've put the investment
Speaker 5: into the double glazing and then you've got extensive gaps
Speaker 5: around it in the ears. Just flowing through there kind
Speaker 5: of defeats the purpose. So you can you know it's
Speaker 5: a total system that you're looking at, or you can
Speaker 5: deal with all of those issues absolutely. Aluminium jowinery is
Speaker 5: pretty common, right, and certainly most new houses probably have
Speaker 5: aluminium jewinery. Up to quite recently it was more common
Speaker 5: to have single glazing than double glazing and that. So
Speaker 5: let's say you've got a nineteen eighties house and it's
Speaker 5: got aluminium jewnery. What's stepped me through the process for
Speaker 5: swapping your single glazing for double glazing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so aluminium is even simpler than even with timber,
Speaker 8: so a lot lower labor content and doing an aluminium protein.
Speaker 8: So again what we do is we come along, were
Speaker 8: removed that aluminium bad that holds the glass into that frame, yes,
Speaker 8: and we create an install a new bead which is
Speaker 8: much thicker, it gives much more pocket depth so that
Speaker 8: it can handle a double glazed unit. So typically, if
Speaker 8: you're looking at a sash that's aluminium, you can see
Speaker 8: it's got a big angled profile where it cuts back
Speaker 8: into the glass. We remove that and go with a
Speaker 8: much more square face, remove the pane of glass, put
Speaker 8: in a double glazed unit and put a new bead
Speaker 8: on and that bead is color matched to the existing
Speaker 8: aluminium on your home. So no painting, no modification required.
Speaker 8: It's a finished product once it's glazed.
Speaker 5: And I know in some instances perhaps the sash won't
Speaker 5: accommodate a double glaze unit, but you have the option
Speaker 5: of making a new sash and fitting it into an
Speaker 5: existing frame.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and in fact that's the most sort of the
Speaker 8: common method of doing that, where you get end up
Speaker 8: with a brand new sash, brand new handles, and brand
Speaker 8: new stays within your existing aluminium. We do things for
Speaker 8: sliding doors as well, so you've got big sliding doors,
Speaker 8: you can absolutely double glaze those as well. And we've
Speaker 8: got these adaptive frames that sit within your existing and
Speaker 8: can take a double glaze unit in there as well, because.
Speaker 5: I guess with a double with a sliding door, there's
Speaker 5: an issue around Wait, the DG unit is going to
Speaker 5: be considerably heavier than the existing one, so it puts
Speaker 5: an impact on the rollers and things like that. But
Speaker 5: again there's a process for that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it absolutely is. You can make an assessment of
Speaker 8: the door to ensure that it can handle that weight.
Speaker 8: And there are things you can do to upgrade wheels
Speaker 8: and things and slide of doors to ensure that they
Speaker 8: can handle that extra weight.
Speaker 5: Now, typically, I mean the vast majority in New Zealand
Speaker 5: houses timber aluminium, but there are also some houses that
Speaker 5: might have old fashioned steel joinery, like really old crittle joinery. Possible,
Speaker 5: Yes it is.
Speaker 8: Yes, you can still retrofit steel. Still, Again, you have
Speaker 8: to be very careful of how you manage removal of
Speaker 8: steel windows. Asbestos was commonly used in old glazing putties
Speaker 8: right back through the sixties and seventies particularly, But yes,
Speaker 8: we have methods to ensure that you can remove that safely.
Speaker 8: We test it to ensure that we know whether it
Speaker 8: has asbestos not remove it safely, and then and then
Speaker 8: go with a similar profile of putting a new steel
Speaker 8: beat in place to double glaze the windows.
Speaker 6: Yeah, brilliant.
Speaker 5: Look, I really appreciate the insights I think, you know,
Speaker 5: for people listening to a thing, Oh, you know, maybe
Speaker 5: it's time to do the double glazing thing. What's the process?
Speaker 8: You know? The best way to proceed is to jump
Speaker 8: onto the website Retro DG. Take a look there on
Speaker 8: the Metro Glass website. Contact a team on OH one
Speaker 8: hundred and six five eight six five eight and talk
Speaker 8: to your local. They'll come to your home, do an
Speaker 8: assessment and give you an understanding and what the process is,
Speaker 8: what your options are, and will give you an idea
Speaker 8: of what all the costs would be associated as well.
Speaker 5: Right, I'm going to keep you for thirty seconds if
Speaker 5: you can answer this question from a caller. An older
Speaker 5: nineteen eighties wooden front door with a large glass in
Speaker 5: certain windows either side into timber framing. Can that be
Speaker 5: double glazed?
Speaker 8: Yes it can. Yes, you can still as long as
Speaker 8: it's got a bead on it, this is able.
Speaker 11: To be.
Speaker 8: Routed out and have a new double glades installed unit
Speaker 8: installed in there. We would certainly do an assessment of
Speaker 8: hinges to make sure they can handle the ways of that,
Speaker 8: but yes you can double glade at that door.
Speaker 6: Excellent.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much for your time and your expertise.
Speaker 5: Really appreciate it. Nick, You have a great day. Take care, Bob.
Speaker 5: That's Nick from Metro Performance Glass. Find out more have
Speaker 5: a look online retrodg dot co dot nz. After the
Speaker 5: break Hunter Moon, who is the Carpentry Apprentice of the Year.
Speaker 5: We're going to have a quick call in a chat
Speaker 5: with him. Also, we're going to start early because we've
Speaker 5: got the rugby at nine o'clock All Blacks v.
Speaker 6: France.
Speaker 5: Well right, oh slight change of plan this morning on
Speaker 5: the show. We are going to jump into the garden
Speaker 5: a bit earlier because we're out of here a little
Speaker 5: bit earlier. We'll hand over to our commentary team ahead
Speaker 5: of the All Blacks v. France match that kicks off
Speaker 5: at nine o'clock. So Rudd will join us in about
Speaker 5: ten to fifteen minutes and like I say, we'll hand
Speaker 5: over the commentary team at about quarter to nine ahead
Speaker 5: of live commentary at nine o'clock here at Newstalk se
Speaker 5: B now. Last week week before I popped along to
Speaker 5: Construct and also that was the venue for the practical
Speaker 5: examination for the Apprentice of the Year. So this is
Speaker 5: sponsored by Carters and Master Builders. Apprentices from right around
Speaker 5: the country are carpentry apprentices are invited to compete in
Speaker 5: regional finals. The nine outstanding candidates then are invited to
Speaker 5: Auckland for the national finals. They spent Thursday, I think
Speaker 5: at about six hours or so making what was quite
Speaker 5: an elaborate little structure that was part planter box, part shelter.
Speaker 5: So they had to cut rafters, fixed cladding, build planter boxes,
Speaker 5: do like a detailed barge board on these little structures.
Speaker 5: Then the following day they had to sit down and
Speaker 5: do interviews and talk about their building knowledge before one
Speaker 5: of them was appointed or anointed as the Carpentry Apprentice
Speaker 5: of the Year. And it's my great pleasure to welcome
Speaker 5: to the program Hunter Moon, who is the twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four Carpentry Apprentice of the Year. Congratulations Hunter, how are you?
Speaker 10: Yeah? Good?
Speaker 17: Thanks about yourself?
Speaker 6: Yeah, not too bad.
Speaker 5: So I had a look at what you guys had
Speaker 5: to build, you know, with a time constraint, which always
Speaker 5: adds a bit of pressure and tension, and part of
Speaker 5: me was thinking, I wonder how I'd go, and I
Speaker 5: to be fair, it was pretty challenging. So just walk
Speaker 5: me through it. You do the building on the Thursday,
Speaker 5: and then what's the interviews that you had to go
Speaker 5: through on the on the Friday.
Speaker 17: Yeah, so we all had to sit through an individual
Speaker 17: interview between sort of forty minutes to an hour throughout
Speaker 17: the day. We had our own individual time slots, and
Speaker 17: I gave you, Judge a bit of time to deliberate
Speaker 17: at the end of the day before we headed straight
Speaker 17: into the awards at the end of that Friday.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So for you, first up, what drew you into carpentry?
Speaker 5: You know, as a young person, you've got all sorts
Speaker 5: of options. Why choose carpentry apprenticeship?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 17: I mean I didn't know what I wanted to do
Speaker 17: in my last year of school. I had plenty of options.
Speaker 17: I'd actually halfway through the year enrolled and been accepted
Speaker 17: into a law program at two different universities in New Zealand.
Speaker 17: But I wasn't one hundred percent convinced that that was
Speaker 17: what I wanted to do. I think I had a
Speaker 17: little bit of doubt in my mind, and I'd always
Speaker 17: had an interest in building stuff. I've always been making
Speaker 17: things at home. Sure, and Dad came home one day
Speaker 17: actually and said, Hey, there's a guy that I know
Speaker 17: that a country ever wants to go building. Give me
Speaker 17: a call and we'll get them into an apprenticeship. And
Speaker 17: I actually thought, damn it, that's what I want to do. Awesome, Yeah,
Speaker 17: I went, I went headfirst into that, and yeah, there
Speaker 17: I am.
Speaker 5: And so you're working with Foster Construction and Hamilton and
Speaker 5: the White cut it. I know they've got some decent
Speaker 5: sized projects on if you've been through the main street
Speaker 5: of Hamilton, they've got the restoration or rebuild of the theater.
Speaker 5: There is it residential that you enjoy? Do you enjoy
Speaker 5: the commercial?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 5: How far along your apprenticeship are you?
Speaker 17: I'm coming to the close of my apprenticeship, so hopefully
Speaker 17: I'll head into the new years as a recently qualified builder.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 17: Yeah, So Foster's specializes in commercial industrial construction, so we
Speaker 17: also do have a high density residential that's just started.
Speaker 17: But yeah, I've worked for the last but the years
Speaker 17: we've been focused on commercial construction. Yeah, and that's that's
Speaker 17: what my passion has evolved into as well. So we
Speaker 17: do anything from medical centers and hospitals to our schools
Speaker 17: to churches. I've worked at the Hampton Downs Race Course right,
Speaker 17: and of course our flagship project at the moment as
Speaker 17: the Wyclo Regional Theater.
Speaker 5: Yeah, which looks amazing and I you know, pretty challenging projects.
Speaker 5: So is that what you're working on.
Speaker 17: I'm not actually no, but a significant portion of our staff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean looking ten years ahead kind of
Speaker 5: what do you see for yourself in terms of working
Speaker 5: in carpentry.
Speaker 17: So I've always seen carpentry or construction as a ship,
Speaker 17: a vehicle, if you will, for me to push my
Speaker 17: career forward and take on as much as I can.
Speaker 17: So the first step for me and that is gaining
Speaker 17: mystification in carpentry, and then hopefully I'll be able to
Speaker 17: move forward into site management, project management and yes, work
Speaker 17: my way out to chain get the best cut that
Speaker 17: I can on these projects.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I wish you all the very best.
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, from what I could see at
Speaker 5: the practical challenge and then from you know, feedback that
Speaker 5: I've had from other people that have interviewed you, You've
Speaker 5: got an outstanding career ahead of you. And I thought, look,
Speaker 5: all of the candidates were great, and I thought one
Speaker 5: of the really nice things for the gala night was
Speaker 5: having people who had either been regional finalists or finalists
Speaker 5: from previous years come and talk about where they had
Speaker 5: got to. So, you know, two years, five years on
Speaker 5: and all of them and I'm sure you would have
Speaker 5: had the same you know, I looked at all of
Speaker 5: those people up there, mixture of male and female, well
Speaker 5: what they had done in their careers and the opportunities
Speaker 5: that construction had presented to them. And I thought that
Speaker 5: was a really good touch. And I can imagine you
Speaker 5: in a couple of years time sitting there at the
Speaker 5: I don't know, Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 5: going well, look this is where I'm at now.
Speaker 6: So good on you.
Speaker 5: Congratulations. I'm sure you've got a bit of stick for
Speaker 5: it on Monday when you got back to the site.
Speaker 5: Builders tend to be pretty good at leveling everybody out,
Speaker 5: but no one's going to take that away from you.
Speaker 5: So Apprentice of the Year Hunter Moon, congratulations.
Speaker 17: Many speak, thank you, And just while I'm on their,
Speaker 17: shout out all those other all those other national finalance. Yeah, well,
Speaker 17: like you say, they are top notch candidates and everybody
Speaker 17: was just an outstanding person and get to know and
Speaker 17: an outstanding competitor as well, So big shout out to
Speaker 17: the master Builders and putting on such a workd event
Speaker 17: for us as well.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 5: It was, it was a great event and I was
Speaker 5: delighted to be able to come along to the gala.
Speaker 5: So good meeting you and all of very Beast Hunter
Speaker 5: take care boy z be He's just actually all of
Speaker 5: the candidates. So there's nine regional finalists competed at the
Speaker 5: final and they were all outstanding, just fantastic young people.
Speaker 5: It was a great thing to be part of. So
Speaker 5: if you've got a young person who's involved in carpentry,
Speaker 5: maybe doing an apprenticeship, have a look at that Apprentice
Speaker 5: of the Year for next year. It's a great challenge
Speaker 5: for them and that's something to hang.
Speaker 6: On to for a long time.
Speaker 5: Just before we jump into the garden, a quick shout
Speaker 5: out to someone who helped me out just recently as well.
Speaker 5: It was one of those classic project comes up at
Speaker 5: the last minute. It was a changeover for a rental property.
Speaker 5: I went in, had a look at a few jobs
Speaker 5: that I needed to get done, looked at the blinds
Speaker 5: and went, oh shivers, I really need to get those
Speaker 5: sorted out as well, just a regular maintenance sort of thing. So,
Speaker 5: as it turned out, a guy that I worked with
Speaker 5: many many years ago we were chippying together, Steve runs
Speaker 5: blink and clean blinds in Auckland, Northland South Auckland as well,
Speaker 5: and I rang him and as it happened. It was
Speaker 5: just one of those fortuitous days. Hey, look we've had
Speaker 5: a cancelation. I can get a crew there. This afternoon.
Speaker 5: They rocked up, took all the blinds down. They got
Speaker 5: mobile so their vans are kitted out for all of this.
Speaker 5: Cleaned all the blinds, dried them all, steam cleaned them,
Speaker 5: put them all back up, made sure that they all worked.
Speaker 5: Everything looked fresh and clean. So if you need blind cleaning,
Speaker 5: I can certainly recommend Blink and Clean so Blinkinclean dot
Speaker 5: co dot NZ or eight hundred two five four six
Speaker 5: five six. Took to Steve and the crew and they'll,
Speaker 5: well hope they'll sort you out as well as they
Speaker 5: sorted me out. So they were outstanding. So Blink and
Speaker 5: Clean Blinds. Great guys, righty oh and also just a
Speaker 5: heads up, I did the I was part of the
Speaker 5: team helping out at the Saint Leo's Fair. Hi Paul
Speaker 5: helped us out resource recovery Devenport. They were fantastic and
Speaker 5: my mates at Greenrilla as well for looking after the
Speaker 5: food scrap. So thank you to those people that helped
Speaker 5: me out at that fair. Radio. Let's jump into the garden.
Speaker 5: We'll take a short break, rid Climb passed on the move,
Speaker 5: but we've tracked them down to Tolonga to the Bay
Speaker 5: of Plenty and we will be talking with Rudd straight
Speaker 5: after the break.
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