WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: November 17, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.415 You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf 0:00:10.455 --> 0:00:11.935 Camp from News Talks B. 0:00:19.055 --> 0:00:21.895 A house sizzle even when it's. 0:00:21.815 --> 0:00:26.655 Dark, even when the grass is overgrown in the. 0:00:26.735 --> 0:00:31.815 Yard, even when a dog is too old to bar 0:00:33.535 --> 0:00:36.215 and when sitting at the table trying to. 0:00:36.495 --> 0:00:39.895 Just sisor. 0:00:41.175 --> 0:00:54.415 Even when we again, even when you're there alone. 0:00:55.695 --> 0:00:57.895 Well, a very very good morning, and welcome along to 0:00:58.095 --> 0:01:01.215 the Resident Builder on Sunday here at News Talk c B. 0:01:01.535 --> 0:01:04.135 I'm Pete wolf Camp, resident Builder, and this is an 0:01:04.135 --> 0:01:07.895 opportunity to ask all sorts of questions or discuss and 0:01:07.935 --> 0:01:11.575 debate all sorts of issues regarding building. So whether it's 0:01:11.975 --> 0:01:14.535 building as in doing some maintenance around the house, like 0:01:14.575 --> 0:01:17.535 I suddenly realized yesterday that there was something that I 0:01:17.535 --> 0:01:20.535 should have done during the week and thought, while I'm 0:01:20.535 --> 0:01:22.455 waiting for the barbecue to heat up, I can finish 0:01:22.495 --> 0:01:25.015 that little job. So a couple of screws to block 0:01:25.015 --> 0:01:27.735 a timber and a few square drives, right, job done, 0:01:27.935 --> 0:01:31.135 stops that flapping around the wind. Any long story, I 0:01:31.175 --> 0:01:34.735 won't get into it here. Or you've got projects, perhaps 0:01:35.055 --> 0:01:37.615 like my mates where I was earlier in the day 0:01:38.215 --> 0:01:41.255 lifting out an oven that had come out of their house, 0:01:41.295 --> 0:01:43.495 to go to somebody else's house that sold it on 0:01:43.575 --> 0:01:47.655 trade Me or Facebook or whatever it is. And ahead 0:01:47.695 --> 0:01:51.815 of the builders moving in tomorrow to do a reasonable 0:01:51.895 --> 0:01:55.255 size sort of extension alteration to the back of the house, 0:01:55.295 --> 0:01:57.455 which had been something that had been in the works 0:01:57.495 --> 0:02:01.295 for a long time. So all of the planning, the preparation, 0:02:01.895 --> 0:02:05.295 the working through the various iterations of the design that 0:02:05.895 --> 0:02:08.735 you know, looking at the scale and scope of the building, 0:02:09.175 --> 0:02:12.575 you know, how much can we extend? Obviously every time 0:02:12.615 --> 0:02:15.695 we extend it's going to cost more money. So is 0:02:15.735 --> 0:02:19.455 there that mixture between Yah, I'd need more space, but 0:02:19.535 --> 0:02:21.735 I also have a budget that I'd like to stick to. 0:02:22.015 --> 0:02:24.655 So those sorts of issues are there. And then there's 0:02:24.695 --> 0:02:27.655 the practicalities of you know, maybe living without a kitchen 0:02:27.735 --> 0:02:30.495 sink for a couple of minutes. Well I was going 0:02:30.495 --> 0:02:31.895 to say a couple of minutes. It's not a couple 0:02:31.935 --> 0:02:33.495 of minutes. It's going to be a couple of months 0:02:33.535 --> 0:02:36.855 in their case. And then as it happened, the I 0:02:36.935 --> 0:02:39.735 went round to pick up an oven that I dropped 0:02:39.735 --> 0:02:43.695 off to a neighbor. They'd been introduced through Marketplace or 0:02:43.735 --> 0:02:46.935 whatever it is. So an old set of oven hobs, 0:02:47.815 --> 0:02:51.135 an old hob transport from one house to the other 0:02:51.495 --> 0:02:54.655 to a family that are also doing renovation. So we've 0:02:54.735 --> 0:02:56.975 all well, it feels like we've all been there in 0:02:57.055 --> 0:02:59.815 terms of the big renovation or the knocking the back 0:02:59.855 --> 0:03:02.055 of the house off, or living without a kitchen for 0:03:02.095 --> 0:03:06.575 a while, doing without a bathroom, often seeking favors from 0:03:06.615 --> 0:03:09.935 friends and neighbors while you get through that disruptive part 0:03:09.975 --> 0:03:13.615 of your life. If you'd like to talk about renovations, alterations, 0:03:13.895 --> 0:03:16.215 new bills, we can talk about all of that on 0:03:16.255 --> 0:03:19.255 the program this morning. If you've got a particular question 0:03:19.375 --> 0:03:26.135 around products or product supply and product selection as well, 0:03:26.255 --> 0:03:28.855 we can talk about that certainly. If you'd like to 0:03:28.935 --> 0:03:31.895 chat about regulations, rules and so on, we can talk 0:03:31.895 --> 0:03:35.855 about that. Actually, just go into a bit more detail 0:03:35.895 --> 0:03:38.455 a little bit later on. But an interesting update to 0:03:38.575 --> 0:03:41.215 a story or a caller that we had last week. 0:03:41.255 --> 0:03:44.575 If you recall a caller rang and said, look, I'm 0:03:44.615 --> 0:03:47.295 calling on behalf of my mate who's about to have 0:03:47.335 --> 0:03:51.775 his house demolish because council have decided that it's unconsented 0:03:52.415 --> 0:03:55.575 and they're going to roll the bulldozers through it next week. 0:03:56.335 --> 0:03:59.895 We had quite a decent conversation about that. Interesting to 0:03:59.935 --> 0:04:04.295 see that the story appeared online in the Herald yesterday 0:04:04.375 --> 0:04:07.575 or the day before, certainly yesterday talking about what I 0:04:07.695 --> 0:04:12.455 presume is the same situation, given that it would be 0:04:12.495 --> 0:04:18.175 a remarkably rare event for counsel after however long they've 0:04:18.175 --> 0:04:22.455 been negotiating with the homeowner around unconsented work, finally issues 0:04:22.495 --> 0:04:25.215 in order saying we're going to demolish your house. So 0:04:25.535 --> 0:04:27.855 that story's on the Herald website at the moment, but 0:04:27.895 --> 0:04:29.895 we might have a look because it is a little 0:04:29.935 --> 0:04:33.375 bit more context than the information we got from the 0:04:33.375 --> 0:04:36.855 caller last week on the show. So, as you can 0:04:36.895 --> 0:04:39.975 tell from my long winded introduction, there is plenty of 0:04:40.015 --> 0:04:44.135 scope to talk about all things building and construction, whether 0:04:44.175 --> 0:04:47.575 it's the practical, whether it's the theoretical in terms of 0:04:47.615 --> 0:04:50.695 the legislation, and whether it's the dollars and cents too 0:04:50.775 --> 0:04:54.975 in terms of choosing your products or even choosing your 0:04:55.055 --> 0:04:58.615 contractors as well. There's been a couple of interesting stories 0:04:58.655 --> 0:05:00.895 about that. Certainly during the course of the week, I've 0:05:00.935 --> 0:05:06.895 had a number of meetings with people just a construction 0:05:07.015 --> 0:05:08.815 sort of stuff. But one of the hot topics in 0:05:08.895 --> 0:05:15.135 discussion is around the self certification and the possibility that 0:05:15.215 --> 0:05:18.975 companies essentially will be able to, as one person put 0:05:18.975 --> 0:05:21.055 it in a discussion. I've heard this online as well, 0:05:21.735 --> 0:05:24.575 essentially mark your own homework. Right, So, if you are 0:05:24.615 --> 0:05:27.815 a building company and you get permission to self certify, 0:05:28.255 --> 0:05:32.175 what's the oversight apart from you marking your own homework? 0:05:32.215 --> 0:05:34.455 And is that going to work out well for the 0:05:34.495 --> 0:05:37.695 consumer in the end, Because ultimately that's who we should 0:05:37.695 --> 0:05:40.135 be thinking about, that's who we should be protecting. So 0:05:40.215 --> 0:05:42.735 if you have a comment or a question, or you 0:05:42.815 --> 0:05:46.295 want to talk about something regarding building, it's a pretty 0:05:46.295 --> 0:05:49.015 broad topic and we're here to take your calls right now. 0:05:49.135 --> 0:05:51.415 Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 0:05:51.455 --> 0:05:55.015 to call. A slightly shorter program today, by the way. 0:05:55.775 --> 0:05:56.295 Excuse me. 0:05:56.895 --> 0:06:00.255 The All Blacks you may have heard playing France at 0:06:00.295 --> 0:06:02.335 the Star de France in Paris. 0:06:02.815 --> 0:06:04.335 Kick off we'll be at eight o'clock. 0:06:05.135 --> 0:06:08.935 We'll finish the show at around just before quarter to eight, 0:06:09.855 --> 0:06:13.055 and so Rudd will start a little bit earlier. Straight 0:06:13.055 --> 0:06:15.175 after the eight o'clock news. I'm going to introduce you 0:06:15.255 --> 0:06:18.215 to Hunter Moon. Hunter Moon is a young man that 0:06:18.255 --> 0:06:22.335 I met last week. He was competing along with nine 0:06:22.535 --> 0:06:26.415 other apprentices or eight other apprentices nine apprentices who were 0:06:26.455 --> 0:06:30.535 finalists for the Apprentice of the Year competition. So to 0:06:30.535 --> 0:06:33.135 get to the national final, he had to win the 0:06:33.175 --> 0:06:37.975 regional final and then the final will ask him about it. 0:06:37.975 --> 0:06:40.415 It's a bit of practical and then quite a long 0:06:40.615 --> 0:06:43.855 interview process as well, so you have to explain knowledge 0:06:43.895 --> 0:06:48.415 around building materials, building regulations, building processes and so on. 0:06:48.775 --> 0:06:52.695 And then he was awarded Apprentice of the Year at 0:06:53.415 --> 0:06:57.495 a very nice scala dinner last Friday Friday week and 0:06:57.615 --> 0:06:59.175 so I thought, right, we'll get him on the show. 0:06:59.215 --> 0:07:00.735 We did it last year with the Apprentice of the 0:07:00.815 --> 0:07:04.415 Year and hopefully this be regular things. So outstanding young 0:07:04.455 --> 0:07:07.655 man Hunter Mood. He'll come and join us after eight o'clock. 0:07:07.855 --> 0:07:09.855 We're also going to take a deep dive into some 0:07:09.895 --> 0:07:14.295 of the technical aspects around retro fitting for double glazing, 0:07:14.375 --> 0:07:16.855 So Nick Hardy Jones from Metro Performance Class will be 0:07:16.935 --> 0:07:20.095 joining us before eight o'clock. So maybe if you've got 0:07:20.135 --> 0:07:22.375 a specific question around that, we might be able to 0:07:22.375 --> 0:07:24.335 slip that into the conversation as well. But we'll want 0:07:24.335 --> 0:07:26.815 to take a deep dive into, you know, the mechanics 0:07:26.815 --> 0:07:30.455 around what types of sashes can be retrofitted, which ones can't, 0:07:30.695 --> 0:07:31.815 which ones might need to. 0:07:31.735 --> 0:07:33.415 Be replaced, et cetera, et cetera. 0:07:33.575 --> 0:07:36.095 So we'll do that with Nick Hardy Jones at around 0:07:36.135 --> 0:07:39.935 seven forty five this morning, Hunter Moon Apprentice of the 0:07:39.975 --> 0:07:43.295 Year after eight o'clock. Rid will join us earlier at 0:07:43.295 --> 0:07:47.655 around eight fifteen, and then we hand over to our 0:07:47.735 --> 0:07:51.855 commentary team at around eight forty five. So busy old morning. Now, 0:07:52.015 --> 0:07:54.375 that's my hint to say. Now is a really good 0:07:54.375 --> 0:07:57.135 time to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The lines 0:07:57.175 --> 0:07:59.855 are open looking forward to he calls your conversation this morning. 0:08:00.095 --> 0:08:02.935 It is fourteen minutes after six. Call us now, eight 0:08:03.015 --> 0:08:04.135 hundred eighty ten eighty. 0:08:04.455 --> 0:08:04.655 Right. 0:08:04.735 --> 0:08:07.615 Oh, actually, I was just saying too Isaiah my producer. 0:08:07.655 --> 0:08:11.295 This morning, there was the ad just before for Lord 0:08:11.335 --> 0:08:14.695 of the Rings the musical. Actually got some tickets to 0:08:14.735 --> 0:08:17.815 go to that this week. It was outstanding. It was 0:08:17.895 --> 0:08:22.975 really really good. I don't know whether you could call 0:08:23.055 --> 0:08:26.495 me sort of a person that is into musicals as such, 0:08:26.895 --> 0:08:29.335 although increasingly I am like I've been to the Hamilton 0:08:30.095 --> 0:08:32.975 Musical couple of times, which I have just thought was 0:08:33.015 --> 0:08:39.015 absolutely amazing. Our son is involved in musical theater as well, 0:08:39.615 --> 0:08:44.335 including an upcoming actually it's on cheapest, not this week, 0:08:44.615 --> 0:08:48.135 not the week after, but two weeks away anyway, Alice 0:08:48.175 --> 0:08:52.055 of Wonderland at the ARTAA Center. So our boys involved 0:08:52.055 --> 0:08:55.335 in that anyway, So we went along. It's pretty bloody 0:08:55.335 --> 0:08:58.575 good to be fair, the Lord of the Rings. 0:08:59.415 --> 0:09:00.135 It was very good. 0:09:00.215 --> 0:09:03.015 It was quite entertaining. It's more than entertaining, was quite 0:09:03.575 --> 0:09:05.895 quite awe inspiring. Anyway, that was one night this week, 0:09:05.895 --> 0:09:08.855 which was right, let's get back to building. My daughter 0:09:09.175 --> 0:09:12.255 says a text Michelle Tixon. Daughter wants to put up 0:09:12.255 --> 0:09:14.735 a fence between her and one of her neighbors. Can 0:09:14.815 --> 0:09:18.495 she ask the neighbor to pay for half? Well, as 0:09:18.535 --> 0:09:21.095 it happens, the good news was last week on the show, 0:09:21.895 --> 0:09:25.575 we had an expert, a lawyer who's an expert on this, 0:09:25.655 --> 0:09:29.055 and yes, you can request a contribution from a neighbor 0:09:29.495 --> 0:09:32.615 for a fence that is built on the boundary as 0:09:32.655 --> 0:09:37.215 an exactly on the boundary, but you need to do 0:09:37.295 --> 0:09:41.415 so in accordance with the Fencing Act. So part of 0:09:41.455 --> 0:09:46.095 that process is to get some quotes for the fence 0:09:47.055 --> 0:09:51.215 and then put to the neighbor a request essentially with 0:09:51.335 --> 0:09:54.935 a formal letter or some correspondence to say this is 0:09:55.015 --> 0:09:59.135 my intention, and then under the Fencing Act, I'm requesting 0:09:59.215 --> 0:10:02.975 a contribution of half of the value of a standard fence. 0:10:03.895 --> 0:10:05.735 So if you want to do something more than a 0:10:05.775 --> 0:10:08.735 standard fe vent, your neighbor only needs to contribute what 0:10:08.935 --> 0:10:11.895 is considered half of the value of a standard fence. 0:10:11.935 --> 0:10:13.135 So yes, you can. 0:10:15.015 --> 0:10:15.815 It's particular. 0:10:15.855 --> 0:10:18.455 I suppose it's a lot simpler if there is no 0:10:18.615 --> 0:10:22.655 fence there at all at the moment. If there is 0:10:22.695 --> 0:10:26.415 one that's there, then sometimes there's an issue around dereliction 0:10:27.015 --> 0:10:29.935 as an you know, are you wanting to upgrade the 0:10:29.935 --> 0:10:33.695 fence for your benefit and want your neighbor to pay 0:10:33.735 --> 0:10:36.895 for it while the fence itself might be Okay, that's 0:10:36.935 --> 0:10:39.055 a slight different one. So let's assume that there is 0:10:39.055 --> 0:10:43.375 an a fence there or that it's in particularly poor condition. Yes, 0:10:43.735 --> 0:10:47.295 but you need to do it correctly. Oh that was 0:10:47.335 --> 0:10:52.015 the other thing. Actually, really interesting story grab my attention. 0:10:52.135 --> 0:10:52.615 The other day. 0:10:52.615 --> 0:10:55.895 It was a headline, little banner headline online again on 0:10:55.935 --> 0:10:59.655 the Herald website, talking about a neighbor who didn't need 0:10:59.655 --> 0:11:03.655 to contribute to the cost of an upgrade for a 0:11:03.695 --> 0:11:06.695 shared driveway, and it's been a topic that we've talked 0:11:06.695 --> 0:11:10.375 about on the show on number of occasions, so I'll 0:11:10.455 --> 0:11:12.215 dive into that in a minute as well. But with 0:11:12.255 --> 0:11:14.935 regard to the fence, yes, you can request a contribution 0:11:15.055 --> 0:11:17.295 from your neighbor. You have to do it under the 0:11:17.295 --> 0:11:19.935 Fencing Act. Go and have a look online for a 0:11:19.975 --> 0:11:22.975 bit more information on that and another quick text as well. 0:11:23.015 --> 0:11:25.335 Hey Pete, we had a kitchen leak under the cabinets 0:11:25.415 --> 0:11:29.335 onto the subfloor. Gray water from the dishwasher drain hose 0:11:29.855 --> 0:11:33.175 being gray water, does all particle board that's been in 0:11:33.215 --> 0:11:37.335 contact need to be replaced? Some parts have lost all integrity, 0:11:37.495 --> 0:11:40.975 so definitely being replaced, But wondering about the sound spots 0:11:41.335 --> 0:11:45.135 that have been wet now but are dry. Look some 0:11:45.455 --> 0:11:49.495 gray water is not the end of the world. Obviously, 0:11:49.535 --> 0:11:54.415 particle board doesn't really like being wet. In the trade, 0:11:54.455 --> 0:11:57.415 we tend to talk about it as turning into week books, 0:11:57.455 --> 0:12:01.495 which is probably not inappropriate. So I think those areas 0:12:01.495 --> 0:12:04.215 that have lost integrity. It's soft and you can tell 0:12:04.215 --> 0:12:06.055 that even if it's dried out, it's going to have 0:12:06.095 --> 0:12:09.535 no strength. Cut those pieces out, replace them, ideally with 0:12:09.615 --> 0:12:15.255 some flooring plywood, sysantannalized plywood. But areas that might have 0:12:15.295 --> 0:12:20.295 got wet but have dried out and are now sound, 0:12:20.375 --> 0:12:22.095 I would leave those there. I don't think you need 0:12:22.135 --> 0:12:24.055 to go chopping up all of the floor just for 0:12:24.135 --> 0:12:27.015 a leak, although it sounds like it's been a long 0:12:27.095 --> 0:12:31.535 term leak if it's allowed the particleboard to deteriorate to 0:12:31.615 --> 0:12:34.055 that stage. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 0:12:34.095 --> 0:12:36.095 the number to call, just on the fence of the 0:12:36.695 --> 0:12:40.055 driveway story. Again, it's worth having a look online search 0:12:40.095 --> 0:12:43.495 for the story. So it was a slightly unusual situation 0:12:43.655 --> 0:12:48.575 in that the driveway was shared by let's say ten households. 0:12:48.615 --> 0:12:49.935 It was quite a large number. 0:12:49.775 --> 0:12:52.735 Of households had access to the driveway. It was obviously 0:12:52.775 --> 0:12:56.575 in poor condition. One of the affected parties took it 0:12:56.655 --> 0:13:00.175 upon themselves to coordinate with all of the other affected 0:13:00.215 --> 0:13:05.735 parties and got consent from nine out of the ten parties. 0:13:05.695 --> 0:13:07.215 To control tribute to the work. 0:13:07.295 --> 0:13:10.655 Provided some estimates, but couldn't get in touch with Seemingly 0:13:11.095 --> 0:13:13.775 the owner of one of the properties went ahead and 0:13:13.895 --> 0:13:17.335 did the work and then sent an invoice for one 0:13:17.455 --> 0:13:20.215 tenth of the cost of the job to the homeowner. 0:13:20.335 --> 0:13:24.095 That they had not been able to consult with and 0:13:24.415 --> 0:13:27.855 the homeowner refused to pay or the property owner refused 0:13:27.895 --> 0:13:31.975 to pay, and that went to the disputes tribunal, I think, 0:13:32.015 --> 0:13:34.895 and the dispute tribunal found that, in fact, they didn't 0:13:34.975 --> 0:13:38.655 need to contribute because they hadn't been consulted. And you know, 0:13:38.775 --> 0:13:41.935 potentially there's a whole lot of issues around why that 0:13:41.975 --> 0:13:44.935 person wasn't consulted, why they didn't respond, et cetera, et cetera. 0:13:45.015 --> 0:13:48.095 But either way, because they hadn't engaged and given consent, 0:13:48.295 --> 0:13:51.455 it would seem they were not then held liable for 0:13:51.495 --> 0:13:53.815 the contribution, which is an interesting one because it is 0:13:53.815 --> 0:13:55.095 something we've talked about on the show. 0:13:55.455 --> 0:13:56.295 Right, let's get into it. 0:13:56.295 --> 0:13:58.095 Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 0:13:58.135 --> 0:13:59.935 to call Mike, Good morning. 0:14:00.615 --> 0:14:06.095 Morning, an old biller who's one hundred and four years old. 0:14:07.135 --> 0:14:13.455 And yeah, yeah, and Canry got quite a bad squeaky fall. 0:14:13.335 --> 0:14:16.375 Problem all through the house or just in a few 0:14:16.415 --> 0:14:18.855 spots and. 0:14:18.975 --> 0:14:23.335 Mainly in your traffic areas, but most rooms here and 0:14:23.895 --> 0:14:27.895 I'll pulled the carpet up. I'm go go cup of 0:14:27.935 --> 0:14:32.295 place coming on Tuesday at media and I got a 0:14:32.535 --> 0:14:38.975 I've got an e gun with a D guns yep, 0:14:39.855 --> 0:14:46.055 yesterday and I was trying to like nail down the 0:14:46.175 --> 0:14:50.455 bad areas and I can get it pretty good, but 0:14:50.695 --> 0:14:51.335 not one hundred. 0:14:52.575 --> 0:14:52.775 Yeah. 0:14:53.095 --> 0:14:56.335 Look, I think with those sorts of things, you probably 0:14:56.335 --> 0:14:58.375 won't get it to one hundred. To be fair, the 0:14:58.455 --> 0:15:01.175 thought of you using a nail gun to nail down 0:15:01.255 --> 0:15:04.495 what I presume is nice old coworie floorboards, anyone who's 0:15:04.535 --> 0:15:10.535 ever done renovations will be it makes my fingers twitch basically, 0:15:10.735 --> 0:15:15.935 But anyway, we'll put that aside. M Yeah, look, I 0:15:16.015 --> 0:15:18.055 think you're doing the right thing. As in, I was 0:15:18.095 --> 0:15:21.975 going to ask, is it your intention to poly eurethane 0:15:22.015 --> 0:15:24.855 the floors and have them looking really great or you're 0:15:24.895 --> 0:15:26.095 just going to carpet over the top. 0:15:26.335 --> 0:15:28.775 If you are going to carpet over the top, that's good. 0:15:29.615 --> 0:15:35.415 Are the nails that you're using annually grooved nails probably 0:15:35.455 --> 0:15:40.135 not so. Flooring nails typically have like ribben ribs around them, 0:15:40.175 --> 0:15:43.175 like a that run around the shank of the nail, 0:15:43.495 --> 0:15:45.975 and what that does is it binds better, right, So 0:15:46.695 --> 0:15:51.815 typical nail guns don't necessarily have that. And also yours 0:15:51.855 --> 0:15:54.295 will have a nice big d head on them as well, 0:15:54.295 --> 0:15:55.775 which is to be fair and going to look a 0:15:55.815 --> 0:15:58.975 bit ugly nailed down through the floor. So again, if 0:15:59.015 --> 0:16:02.415 it was me, I would have perhaps gone through, punched 0:16:02.495 --> 0:16:05.535 some of the existing nails and added some flooring nails 0:16:05.535 --> 0:16:07.655 next to it. Given them you're going to be carpeting 0:16:07.695 --> 0:16:11.375 it and that will get rid of most of the squeaks. 0:16:11.855 --> 0:16:15.415 If there's an area where it's particularly bad, you might 0:16:15.495 --> 0:16:19.015 need to go underneath the floor and screw a cleat 0:16:19.215 --> 0:16:22.415 to the joist and then fix upwards and pull the 0:16:22.415 --> 0:16:27.415 floorboard down, or in some cases it's on my list 0:16:27.455 --> 0:16:30.455 of jobs to do, actually fix pieces apply to the 0:16:30.535 --> 0:16:33.455 underside so that all of the boards are bonded together. 0:16:34.215 --> 0:16:36.935 But look, in general, I think Mike, you're probably on 0:16:36.775 --> 0:16:40.615 the on the right track. Again, slightly horrifying thought of 0:16:40.655 --> 0:16:43.535 you using a nail gun on a nice old Cowie floor, 0:16:43.615 --> 0:16:45.775 but you're on the right track and you might just 0:16:46.455 --> 0:16:48.095 get it to a point where that's the best that 0:16:48.135 --> 0:16:51.175 you can do with that unless you start doing things 0:16:51.215 --> 0:16:54.055 like cleats and brackets and blocking underneath. 0:16:54.335 --> 0:16:54.775 Good luck. 0:16:54.895 --> 0:16:56.975 Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is then number to 0:16:56.975 --> 0:16:59.815 call Jamie. Good morning, Yeah, how are you? 0:16:59.975 --> 0:17:00.175 Yeah? 0:17:00.215 --> 0:17:01.015 Good things? 0:17:01.935 --> 0:17:07.255 Just as just a sort of a query curved jib. 0:17:07.575 --> 0:17:12.815 Yes you can. Yeah, I'm doing a sort of L 0:17:12.895 --> 0:17:18.175 shaped building that I'm doing my backyard, and yeah, I've 0:17:18.215 --> 0:17:20.815 sort of been a slightly weird I wanted to be 0:17:20.895 --> 0:17:23.175 curved rather than a nice degree angle. 0:17:23.495 --> 0:17:23.815 Yes. 0:17:24.535 --> 0:17:28.255 For what sort of radius can you do with jib? 0:17:29.215 --> 0:17:33.015 I think typically anything less than about a six to 0:17:33.135 --> 0:17:37.135 seven hundred radius gets really hard to do. Oh okay, 0:17:37.495 --> 0:17:40.255 but yeah, so you know, don't expect that, let's say 0:17:40.295 --> 0:17:42.615 you have one hundred and fifty mili radius on a corner, 0:17:42.695 --> 0:17:43.695 that you'll be able to do that. 0:17:43.975 --> 0:17:45.575 I don't think you will be able to. 0:17:46.375 --> 0:17:49.015 So typically the way that I've done it in the past, 0:17:50.015 --> 0:17:53.095 and I've actually done a couple of houses that had 0:17:53.775 --> 0:17:56.175 I did one house it was quite a while ago 0:17:56.215 --> 0:17:58.975 that had like a center point and then a series 0:17:59.015 --> 0:18:03.655 of concentric rings from that center point, and then eventually 0:18:03.695 --> 0:18:07.335 some some wings that were regular you know, ninety degree 0:18:07.375 --> 0:18:09.015 in straight walls and that sort of thing. So I 0:18:09.015 --> 0:18:12.335 had a whole series of walls, but that was radius 0:18:12.335 --> 0:18:16.415 of about anywhere from two and a half to four 0:18:16.495 --> 0:18:20.175 to six meters, right, So a series of all that's what. 0:18:20.135 --> 0:18:24.495 I'm looking at all, I'll not talk one, okay, all right. 0:18:24.775 --> 0:18:28.655 So typically what I would do is I would get 0:18:28.655 --> 0:18:31.735 my sheet and I would wet the sheet just with 0:18:31.895 --> 0:18:34.455 some water on a sponge, so you're not just pouring 0:18:34.535 --> 0:18:37.815 water on it with a hose and drape it over 0:18:39.015 --> 0:18:41.575 like a sawhorse or something like that. So you've got 0:18:41.575 --> 0:18:43.775 a rough idea of what the radius is. You take 0:18:43.815 --> 0:18:46.255 the sheet, you wet both sides of the sheet, and 0:18:46.295 --> 0:18:49.975 you just let it settle and start to sag into 0:18:50.215 --> 0:18:55.495 roughly the radius that you're wanting. And then even while 0:18:55.535 --> 0:18:57.615 it's a little bit wet, but I tend to let 0:18:57.615 --> 0:18:59.855 it dry a little bit. Then I'll pick the sheet 0:18:59.935 --> 0:19:02.735 up once it's got its shape and then fix it 0:19:02.775 --> 0:19:06.295 to the wall. So a little bit of patience, but yeah, 0:19:06.415 --> 0:19:07.815 it definitely is doable. 0:19:08.575 --> 0:19:09.415 Definitely is doable. 0:19:09.455 --> 0:19:12.255 Okay, okay, right, have a look. Take care. 0:19:12.975 --> 0:19:15.775 I think in the JIB Guide, which is available both 0:19:15.855 --> 0:19:17.855 as a hard copy if you rang JIB, I'm sure 0:19:17.855 --> 0:19:22.055 they'd send you one, or certainly it's available online and 0:19:22.135 --> 0:19:23.775 you can get it as an app on your phone. 0:19:24.255 --> 0:19:27.575 Might have some detail around that, but yeap curving plaster 0:19:27.615 --> 0:19:33.575 board in general and jib bored in particular, not too 0:19:33.575 --> 0:19:36.335 many problems. Nice challenge. Actually, that's how I'd say it. 0:19:36.535 --> 0:19:38.975 Six twenty nine Here at News Talks B, eight hundred 0:19:39.055 --> 0:19:43.135 eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Got a 0:19:43.135 --> 0:19:45.015 couple of decent texts coming in. We'll have a look 0:19:45.015 --> 0:19:46.655 at those in the moment. We'll take short break, then 0:19:46.655 --> 0:19:48.735 we'll talk to Chris back in a moment. Your News 0:19:49.215 --> 0:19:52.015 B taking your calls. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 0:19:52.015 --> 0:19:54.775 the number to call. Just bear in mind slightly truncated 0:19:54.895 --> 0:19:58.295 program in terms of the building. Today we have live 0:19:58.375 --> 0:20:02.975 commentary of the All Blacks v. France live from Star 0:20:03.095 --> 0:20:06.295 de France. At that match kicks off at nine o'clocks. 0:20:06.455 --> 0:20:09.455 We'll hand over to the commentary team from about eight 0:20:09.615 --> 0:20:12.775 forty five this morning. Rid climb Pass will be joining 0:20:12.855 --> 0:20:13.495 us earlier. 0:20:13.695 --> 0:20:14.215 I'm going to. 0:20:14.135 --> 0:20:18.175 Interview the apprentice Carpentry Apprentice of the Year straight. 0:20:17.895 --> 0:20:18.695 After eight o'clock. 0:20:18.975 --> 0:20:21.375 We've got an in depth look at some issues around 0:20:21.415 --> 0:20:24.295 double glazing with Nick Hardy Jones at seven forty five. 0:20:24.375 --> 0:20:26.855 So that's my way of saying, now is a really 0:20:26.895 --> 0:20:28.815 good time to call our eight hundred and eighty ten 0:20:28.855 --> 0:20:32.615 eighty is that number? Hello, Chris, Yeah, there you go, 0:20:34.855 --> 0:20:35.415 not too bad. 0:20:35.655 --> 0:20:38.055 I'll just find the whole thing interesting. 0:20:38.335 --> 0:20:39.015 Yes, if. 0:20:43.735 --> 0:20:46.615 The whole happening to pay half thing, I find a 0:20:46.615 --> 0:20:52.375 bit odd. Basically, what I was thinking was, it's purely 0:20:52.455 --> 0:20:55.615 hypothetical because I've got a sent between me and an 0:20:55.615 --> 0:21:00.855 extra labor, so it's not to build me. But what 0:21:01.055 --> 0:21:05.735 happened is so your next door neighbor, what's the bull 0:21:05.815 --> 0:21:10.815 of beans? And you disagree that you want defense because 0:21:10.855 --> 0:21:14.095 you've never had events and the last neighbor that was 0:21:14.175 --> 0:21:21.175 living there didn't want me either. Do you have any actually, 0:21:21.215 --> 0:21:25.775 will say? And can you actually if they have the 0:21:25.895 --> 0:21:33.095 right to build a fence on the borderline, which is 0:21:34.135 --> 0:21:36.255 measure you independent land. 0:21:37.655 --> 0:21:39.535 Well, no, there's no such. 0:21:41.215 --> 0:21:41.455 Down. 0:21:42.215 --> 0:21:47.175 No, no, because that would be criminal damage. It's a 0:21:47.535 --> 0:21:49.495 to be fair, it's a very interesting question because I 0:21:50.175 --> 0:21:54.055 guess I don't know that you would actually have a 0:21:54.135 --> 0:21:57.535 right to object to a fence right. So the Fencing 0:21:57.575 --> 0:22:04.295 actors there to provide for some some legislative framework around 0:22:04.615 --> 0:22:08.295 how to negotiate how a fence. I don't know that 0:22:08.375 --> 0:22:12.295 it provides for a neighbor who decides they don't want 0:22:12.415 --> 0:22:15.215 a fence. So I think that under the Fencing Act, 0:22:15.855 --> 0:22:20.375 you can pretty much demand a contribution from a neighbor 0:22:20.695 --> 0:22:25.655 for a fence. So if you've decided, hey, look i'm 0:22:25.735 --> 0:22:28.295 quite happy without one, but the neighbor goes, we've got 0:22:28.295 --> 0:22:30.775 a dog or we've got small children and we want 0:22:30.815 --> 0:22:34.215 more privacy, we're going to put one in. Then you 0:22:34.255 --> 0:22:39.375 can use the Fencing Act to ensure that a neighbor contributes, 0:22:39.375 --> 0:22:41.895 because ultimately you still get a benefit from it even 0:22:41.935 --> 0:22:43.735 if you don't want it because you've ended up with 0:22:43.775 --> 0:22:44.215