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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf

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Speaker 1: Camp from News Talks B.

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle even when it's.

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Speaker 3: Dark, even when the grass is overgrown in the.

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Speaker 2: Yard, even when a dog is too old to bar

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Speaker 2: and when sitting at the table trying to.

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Speaker 4: Just sisor.

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Speaker 2: Even when we again, even when you're there alone.

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Speaker 5: Well, a very very good morning, and welcome along to

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Speaker 5: the Resident Builder on Sunday here at News Talk c B.

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Speaker 5: I'm Pete wolf Camp, resident Builder, and this is an

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Speaker 5: opportunity to ask all sorts of questions or discuss and

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Speaker 5: debate all sorts of issues regarding building. So whether it's

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Speaker 5: building as in doing some maintenance around the house, like

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Speaker 5: I suddenly realized yesterday that there was something that I

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Speaker 5: should have done during the week and thought, while I'm

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Speaker 5: waiting for the barbecue to heat up, I can finish

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Speaker 5: that little job. So a couple of screws to block

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Speaker 5: a timber and a few square drives, right, job done,

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Speaker 5: stops that flapping around the wind. Any long story, I

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Speaker 5: won't get into it here. Or you've got projects, perhaps

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Speaker 5: like my mates where I was earlier in the day

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Speaker 5: lifting out an oven that had come out of their house,

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Speaker 5: to go to somebody else's house that sold it on

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Speaker 5: trade Me or Facebook or whatever it is. And ahead

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Speaker 5: of the builders moving in tomorrow to do a reasonable

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Speaker 5: which had been something that had been in the works

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Speaker 5: the working through the various iterations of the design that

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Speaker 5: you know, how much can we extend? Obviously every time

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Speaker 5: we extend it's going to cost more money. So is

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Speaker 5: there that mixture between Yah, I'd need more space, but

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Speaker 5: I also have a budget that I'd like to stick to.

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Speaker 5: So those sorts of issues are there. And then there's

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Speaker 5: the practicalities of you know, maybe living without a kitchen

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Speaker 5: in their case. And then as it happened, the I

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Speaker 5: went round to pick up an oven that I dropped

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Speaker 5: whatever it is. So an old set of oven hobs,

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Speaker 5: all well, it feels like we've all been there in

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Speaker 5: of your life. If you'd like to talk about renovations, alterations,

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Speaker 5: new bills, we can talk about all of that on

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Speaker 5: we can talk about that certainly. If you'd like to

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Speaker 5: And is that going to work out well for the

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Speaker 5: broad topic and we're here to take your calls right now.

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Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

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Speaker 5: to call. A slightly shorter program today, by the way.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me.

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Speaker 5: The All Blacks you may have heard playing France at

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Speaker 6: Kick off we'll be at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 5: We'll finish the show at around just before quarter to eight,

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Speaker 5: and so Rudd will start a little bit earlier. Straight

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Speaker 5: seven forty five this morning, Hunter Moon Apprentice of the

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Speaker 5: Oh, actually, I was just saying too Isaiah my producer.

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Speaker 5: Hey Pete, we had a kitchen leak under the cabinets

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Speaker 5: onto the subfloor. Gray water from the dishwasher drain hose

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Speaker 5: gray water is not the end of the world. Obviously,

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Speaker 5: some flooring plywood, sysantannalized plywood. But areas that might have

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Speaker 5: So typically what I would do is I would get

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Speaker 5: Might have some detail around that, but yeap curving plaster

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Speaker 5: B taking your calls. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 6: After eight o'clock.

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Speaker 5: So that's my way of saying, now is a really

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Speaker 9: The whole happening to pay half thing, I find a

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Speaker 5: Or if it's things like parking your car. That's more

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Speaker 5: That's how I see it. Appreciate you call Chris, thank

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Speaker 5: was some time.

435
00:24:31,535 --> 00:24:33,495
Speaker 6: In the mid eighties.

436
00:24:33,575 --> 00:24:37,735
Speaker 5: Roughly a standard fence was defined as some raratars and

437
00:24:37,975 --> 00:24:41,535
Speaker 5: three rows of number eight fencing white. That was a

438
00:24:41,575 --> 00:24:46,295
Speaker 5: standard fence. But nowadays it is the timber, and so

439
00:24:46,415 --> 00:24:49,135
Speaker 5: that's pretty easy definition of what is a standard fence.

440
00:24:49,335 --> 00:24:52,015
Speaker 5: A couple of other texts as well that have come

441
00:24:52,055 --> 00:24:54,375
Speaker 5: in and taking your calls obviously, because the lines are

442
00:24:54,415 --> 00:24:57,495
Speaker 5: open for you right now. Hey peaked thirty five years ago.

443
00:24:57,535 --> 00:24:59,495
Speaker 5: I was building homes in New South Wales and they

444
00:24:59,535 --> 00:25:04,815
Speaker 5: require all wet areas of every house to be flawed

445
00:25:04,815 --> 00:25:07,975
Speaker 5: with tantalized ply just save any damage due to flooding leaking.

446
00:25:08,335 --> 00:25:10,655
Speaker 5: In New Zealand, it's costing an enormous amount of insurance

447
00:25:10,695 --> 00:25:13,535
Speaker 5: money as a result of our continued use of particle board.

448
00:25:13,855 --> 00:25:16,295
Speaker 5: Y oh, why it's similar to the leaking the house syndrome.

449
00:25:16,535 --> 00:25:19,095
Speaker 5: We turn a blind eye to this one. Terry, I've

450
00:25:19,095 --> 00:25:22,855
Speaker 5: got good news for you. I can't recall the last

451
00:25:22,895 --> 00:25:27,895
Speaker 5: time you could use particle board as a substrate for

452
00:25:28,015 --> 00:25:34,695
Speaker 5: flooring in a wet area, I think almost exclusively. Now

453
00:25:34,935 --> 00:25:37,095
Speaker 5: if you do use it, you have to waterproof it

454
00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:41,855
Speaker 5: or in most cases, particularly in bathrooms, there is no

455
00:25:41,935 --> 00:25:45,935
Speaker 5: way that you would get compliance to use anything other

456
00:25:46,015 --> 00:25:49,695
Speaker 5: than treated ply typically in bathrooms. I'm sure there are

457
00:25:49,735 --> 00:25:51,615
Speaker 5: some group home builders who have worked out another way

458
00:25:51,655 --> 00:25:55,775
Speaker 5: of getting around it. In general, it's tantalized ply right

459
00:25:55,815 --> 00:26:00,415
Speaker 5: throughout any wet area and slightly beyond the actual footprint

460
00:26:00,415 --> 00:26:03,935
Speaker 5: of that space as well. So yeah, if it does leak,

461
00:26:04,095 --> 00:26:07,855
Speaker 5: at least while in the time that it takes you

462
00:26:07,895 --> 00:26:10,775
Speaker 5: to identify the leak, you're not getting as much damage

463
00:26:10,815 --> 00:26:13,175
Speaker 5: to the substrate. If it's analized PLI then if it

464
00:26:13,295 --> 00:26:16,335
Speaker 5: was the old fashioned particle board. So I think generally

465
00:26:16,655 --> 00:26:19,455
Speaker 5: we've learned our lesson on that one. Thanks for your text, Terry, Oh,

466
00:26:19,455 --> 00:26:22,335
Speaker 5: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

467
00:26:22,895 --> 00:26:26,695
Speaker 5: One other question that came in AH currently sourcing quotes

468
00:26:26,735 --> 00:26:30,775
Speaker 5: for a replacement pool decking and boundary fence question what

469
00:26:30,895 --> 00:26:34,815
Speaker 5: product is best UPBC composite or would for the fence?

470
00:26:34,815 --> 00:26:38,135
Speaker 5: Would metal panels be less expensive than would Also should

471
00:26:38,175 --> 00:26:41,295
Speaker 5: I be checking that the builders are registered Master builders?

472
00:26:41,335 --> 00:26:43,495
Speaker 5: Thanks from joy Um.

473
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:44,215
Speaker 6: Okay.

474
00:26:44,255 --> 00:26:50,175
Speaker 5: In terms of construction, let's deal with that first. It's possibly, well,

475
00:26:50,575 --> 00:26:53,975
Speaker 5: it probably isn't restricted building work in the sense that

476
00:26:54,055 --> 00:26:56,735
Speaker 5: it doesn't necessarily need to be done by a licensed

477
00:26:56,775 --> 00:27:01,575
Speaker 5: building practitioner. But given that you're doing it around the pool,

478
00:27:01,655 --> 00:27:04,415
Speaker 5: for example, and your fencing is going to become part

479
00:27:04,455 --> 00:27:08,135
Speaker 5: of the pool, fencing legislator or has to comply with it.

480
00:27:08,535 --> 00:27:13,215
Speaker 5: Then ideally you'd be using a License Building Practitioners an LBP.

481
00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:17,735
Speaker 5: That would be a good idea. And in terms of

482
00:27:17,855 --> 00:27:20,495
Speaker 5: product and that sort of thing, Look, there's so much

483
00:27:20,575 --> 00:27:23,175
Speaker 5: choice out there at the moment. In some cases it

484
00:27:23,175 --> 00:27:26,895
Speaker 5: comes down to personal preference, and it might be that

485
00:27:27,215 --> 00:27:31,255
Speaker 5: you know timber around a pool, Possibly a composite has

486
00:27:31,295 --> 00:27:35,815
Speaker 5: some advantages there because it will respond better to getting

487
00:27:35,855 --> 00:27:38,135
Speaker 5: wet and drying out, you won't have as much movement, etc.

488
00:27:39,015 --> 00:27:44,015
Speaker 5: In terms of metal panels are probably less expensive than

489
00:27:44,055 --> 00:27:47,135
Speaker 5: would because you can do components. Also, you can do

490
00:27:47,215 --> 00:27:51,495
Speaker 5: metal panels with verticals in them typical pool fencing, and

491
00:27:51,575 --> 00:27:54,375
Speaker 5: that's a lot less work than trying to do pool

492
00:27:54,415 --> 00:28:01,255
Speaker 5: fencing in timber where you have issues about climbability. So

493
00:28:01,935 --> 00:28:03,895
Speaker 5: it's a long winded way of saying there's a lot

494
00:28:03,895 --> 00:28:06,855
Speaker 5: of choices. You just ultimately make up your own mind.

495
00:28:07,055 --> 00:28:09,575
Speaker 5: Oh eight one hundred and eighty is that number to

496
00:28:09,655 --> 00:28:12,655
Speaker 5: call if you've got a question. Hopefully I've got an answer.

497
00:28:12,775 --> 00:28:14,055
Speaker 5: Ross A very good morning to you.

498
00:28:14,775 --> 00:28:17,735
Speaker 3: Yeah, good morning guys. Look what I did, and I

499
00:28:17,775 --> 00:28:21,615
Speaker 3: did a renovation in a house about three years ago.

500
00:28:21,655 --> 00:28:24,815
Speaker 3: I did penalize. Fine, they're obviously made sense. But they're

501
00:28:24,815 --> 00:28:31,055
Speaker 3: also under the dishwasher. I drilled some holes what well,

502
00:28:31,095 --> 00:28:35,175
Speaker 3: because there was a basement to just and a ground basement.

503
00:28:35,255 --> 00:28:37,855
Speaker 3: And if the water ever leaked out of the dishwasher,

504
00:28:38,215 --> 00:28:41,295
Speaker 3: the little holes are about a quarter a half an

505
00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:44,055
Speaker 3: inch or three eighths of an inch. Yep, they ever leaked,

506
00:28:44,095 --> 00:28:44,895
Speaker 3: the water would just.

507
00:28:44,815 --> 00:28:48,535
Speaker 6: Go strain rather than okay, who would just strain away?

508
00:28:49,375 --> 00:28:55,375
Speaker 3: Yeah, go straight through and instead of pulling. Yes, and

509
00:28:56,055 --> 00:28:59,375
Speaker 3: so they were ratproof. MYCEO, rats or anything couldn't get

510
00:28:59,455 --> 00:28:59,815
Speaker 3: up right.

511
00:29:00,815 --> 00:29:06,695
Speaker 5: And yeah, look, I do like the practicality of your solution,

512
00:29:08,655 --> 00:29:11,695
Speaker 5: but I mean you wouldn't find it anywhere in the

513
00:29:11,695 --> 00:29:14,615
Speaker 5: building code. But I get the practicality of it. If

514
00:29:14,615 --> 00:29:16,775
Speaker 5: it's going to flood, then at least it's got somewhere

515
00:29:16,775 --> 00:29:17,055
Speaker 5: to go.

516
00:29:19,655 --> 00:29:21,335
Speaker 3: There was only half a dozen holes. It's all the

517
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:22,975
Speaker 3: way around thee of THEA.

518
00:29:24,895 --> 00:29:28,175
Speaker 5: And the space below. Obviously it wasn't habitable space. It

519
00:29:28,215 --> 00:29:31,335
Speaker 5: was just a basement space. Yeah, it's not like a

520
00:29:31,455 --> 00:29:35,815
Speaker 5: dripped down onto the head of the person sleeping below. No, no,

521
00:29:35,895 --> 00:29:36,295
Speaker 5: all right.

522
00:29:36,535 --> 00:29:39,055
Speaker 3: But the other thing is that guy that you mentioned

523
00:29:39,095 --> 00:29:43,175
Speaker 3: about the driveway and one tenth of the guys if

524
00:29:43,175 --> 00:29:46,695
Speaker 3: they couldn't, if they couldn't contact them when they sent

525
00:29:46,815 --> 00:29:51,655
Speaker 3: all the information about proposed contribution for a driveway, and

526
00:29:51,695 --> 00:29:54,135
Speaker 3: then they sent and they couldn't get any response from

527
00:29:54,175 --> 00:29:57,535
Speaker 3: him for her or her, and they sent the bill

528
00:29:57,895 --> 00:30:01,015
Speaker 3: to him in the end and they responded. I mean,

529
00:30:01,495 --> 00:30:03,855
Speaker 3: that's not very fair. Obviously they were they had their

530
00:30:03,935 --> 00:30:06,775
Speaker 3: right address and the right communication. So the person decided

531
00:30:06,895 --> 00:30:10,135
Speaker 3: not to respond in the initial approaches that we budget

532
00:30:10,175 --> 00:30:14,255
Speaker 3: to the driveway, and then they refused, obviously through writing

533
00:30:15,095 --> 00:30:18,415
Speaker 3: or correspondence, to refuse it to the account.

534
00:30:18,455 --> 00:30:19,255
Speaker 10: How does that work?

535
00:30:19,575 --> 00:30:22,135
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that is the fascinating part of it. And

536
00:30:22,575 --> 00:30:25,135
Speaker 5: I had the same sentiment as you that obviously at

537
00:30:25,215 --> 00:30:29,255
Speaker 5: a certain point the person was contactable but decided not

538
00:30:29,455 --> 00:30:32,575
Speaker 5: to engage in the discussion before the work was done.

539
00:30:33,815 --> 00:30:37,695
Speaker 5: But then was did engage when suddenly the invoice turns up, right,

540
00:30:38,975 --> 00:30:43,255
Speaker 5: And I think you got a sense in the online

541
00:30:43,335 --> 00:30:47,615
Speaker 5: article that I read that you know, the collective, let's say,

542
00:30:47,655 --> 00:30:51,575
Speaker 5: in the person driving the process just decided, look, we

543
00:30:51,655 --> 00:30:55,535
Speaker 5: can't keep waiting, let's just get on and get it done.

544
00:30:55,775 --> 00:30:58,255
Speaker 5: And it was just that simple act of going, we're

545
00:30:58,255 --> 00:31:00,375
Speaker 5: not going to wait for this last person to respond,

546
00:31:00,415 --> 00:31:02,935
Speaker 5: let's get it done. And I guess the hope of

547
00:31:03,015 --> 00:31:07,055
Speaker 5: the expectation was, surely they'll be reasonable and make some contribution,

548
00:31:07,095 --> 00:31:08,735
Speaker 5: because they've obviously got the benefit of it.

549
00:31:08,855 --> 00:31:09,055
Speaker 6: Right.

550
00:31:10,095 --> 00:31:13,015
Speaker 5: But from a legal point of view, because they didn't

551
00:31:13,055 --> 00:31:16,855
Speaker 5: get the consent from that person, that person then didn't

552
00:31:17,175 --> 00:31:20,695
Speaker 5: wasn't held responsible for that portion of the invoice.

553
00:31:21,575 --> 00:31:27,335
Speaker 3: They said the initial correspondence to by registered mail that

554
00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:30,335
Speaker 3: would have that's indicated they were to received it because.

555
00:31:31,175 --> 00:31:34,575
Speaker 5: But receiving Yeah, but in this instance, receiving some correspondent

556
00:31:34,655 --> 00:31:39,135
Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily imply that you've accepted the outcome, you know

557
00:31:39,255 --> 00:31:41,895
Speaker 5: what I mean, So you would have to in this situation.

558
00:31:41,935 --> 00:31:45,415
Speaker 5: I think the adjudicator was simply looking for, Hey, look

559
00:31:45,455 --> 00:31:48,095
Speaker 5: everyone's agreed, this person hasn't. Therefore I'm not going to

560
00:31:48,215 --> 00:31:53,815
Speaker 5: enforce the payment on that person, saying that you would

561
00:31:53,855 --> 00:31:55,975
Speaker 5: think that people would do the right thing anyway. I

562
00:31:56,255 --> 00:31:58,215
Speaker 5: found it really fair, you know, because on this show

563
00:31:58,295 --> 00:31:59,695
Speaker 5: we've talked about it a number of times.

564
00:31:59,775 --> 00:31:59,935
Speaker 9: Right.

565
00:31:59,975 --> 00:32:04,775
Speaker 5: You know, shared driveways are not uncommon, they do require maintenance,

566
00:32:05,135 --> 00:32:09,295
Speaker 5: and generally you expect that everyone contributes somehow. But in

567
00:32:09,295 --> 00:32:10,175
Speaker 5: this case they didn't.

568
00:32:10,415 --> 00:32:12,775
Speaker 3: Fascinating, So it brings it brings up the other point,

569
00:32:13,295 --> 00:32:16,175
Speaker 3: who how do they share out his one tenth of

570
00:32:16,215 --> 00:32:17,775
Speaker 3: the year. Do they go back to all the other

571
00:32:17,855 --> 00:32:22,135
Speaker 3: owners that agreed to their one tenth and say, now

572
00:32:22,175 --> 00:32:24,495
Speaker 3: we've got to divide this by nine as set as gain.

573
00:32:25,375 --> 00:32:28,415
Speaker 5: Well, that would be fascinating, wouldn't it. And yeah, you

574
00:32:28,455 --> 00:32:31,855
Speaker 5: know it'd be a fairly frosty reception down the driveway.

575
00:32:33,095 --> 00:32:35,455
Speaker 3: If you organize the have to suck it up and say, well, listen,

576
00:32:35,495 --> 00:32:36,495
Speaker 3: I'm responsible for this.

577
00:32:36,535 --> 00:32:41,575
Speaker 5: I wonder whether that was the case. Actually fascinating. How

578
00:32:41,655 --> 00:32:43,495
Speaker 5: nice of you to call Ross, You have a great day,

579
00:32:43,575 --> 00:32:45,455
Speaker 5: all the best. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

580
00:32:45,535 --> 00:32:47,415
Speaker 5: is the number, and be good morning to.

581
00:32:47,375 --> 00:32:50,215
Speaker 11: You, good morning, Hell are you very well?

582
00:32:50,375 --> 00:32:50,775
Speaker 6: Thank you?

583
00:32:51,255 --> 00:32:51,815
Speaker 3: That's good.

584
00:32:51,855 --> 00:32:56,295
Speaker 11: That's good on the slovety weekend. Now, I think I've

585
00:32:56,335 --> 00:32:59,255
Speaker 11: signed you up once before regarding my house, so I'll

586
00:32:59,255 --> 00:33:05,695
Speaker 11: give you another call. Yeah, okay, So we're heaving like

587
00:33:05,855 --> 00:33:08,855
Speaker 11: kind of issues which we weren't aware of when we

588
00:33:09,015 --> 00:33:14,135
Speaker 11: first brought the house parts, like if we have the

589
00:33:14,255 --> 00:33:17,295
Speaker 11: washing machine and the drag going like in winter, and

590
00:33:17,335 --> 00:33:21,175
Speaker 11: then we have the heater in the hallway going. Sometimes

591
00:33:21,215 --> 00:33:24,455
Speaker 11: the few not the fuse, but the box will just pop,

592
00:33:24,495 --> 00:33:28,455
Speaker 11: will just switch off, so part of the house will

593
00:33:28,495 --> 00:33:33,615
Speaker 11: be in darkness compared to another part. Now what I

594
00:33:33,735 --> 00:33:36,015
Speaker 11: need to like Now we've we've actually had some are

595
00:33:36,455 --> 00:33:42,095
Speaker 11: up here to read fix it kind of thing, and

596
00:33:42,135 --> 00:33:46,495
Speaker 11: they've put a bigger ampen, but apparently it's not working.

597
00:33:48,175 --> 00:33:53,415
Speaker 11: Now we have been told that we can't caught any

598
00:33:53,575 --> 00:33:58,335
Speaker 11: more bigger ampen otherwise we would need to rewire the house.

599
00:33:59,415 --> 00:34:05,135
Speaker 11: Now the question is is it I mean, like because

600
00:34:05,175 --> 00:34:09,615
Speaker 11: it's going to be rewin or maybe reward. We are

601
00:34:09,655 --> 00:34:14,415
Speaker 11: now getting power on into the garage which is connected

602
00:34:14,455 --> 00:34:18,055
Speaker 11: to the house, So would that make things worse? I mean,

603
00:34:18,095 --> 00:34:22,255
Speaker 11: would we be able to say, play our freezer and

604
00:34:22,335 --> 00:34:25,575
Speaker 11: there in another fridge in there, or wouldn't it be

605
00:34:25,655 --> 00:34:28,015
Speaker 11: advised to get that done yet?

606
00:34:29,575 --> 00:34:33,575
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean, look, I'm going to start by saying

607
00:34:33,695 --> 00:34:38,335
Speaker 5: I'm not a registered electrician and that ultimately you should

608
00:34:38,375 --> 00:34:43,655
Speaker 5: get advice from a registered electrician on all of these matters.

609
00:34:43,695 --> 00:34:47,695
Speaker 5: But if, for example, and I have had a similar

610
00:34:47,695 --> 00:34:50,935
Speaker 5: issue with a property that I know actually not that

611
00:34:51,015 --> 00:34:55,415
Speaker 5: long ago, where if the dryer and the washing machine

612
00:34:55,455 --> 00:34:58,775
Speaker 5: were on at the same time, it would trip at

613
00:34:58,775 --> 00:35:02,735
Speaker 5: the board, right, So had the electrician come through change

614
00:35:02,775 --> 00:35:06,575
Speaker 5: some of the breakers, but there's only so much do

615
00:35:06,615 --> 00:35:10,055
Speaker 5: with existing wiring. So if there are too many outlets

616
00:35:10,055 --> 00:35:13,775
Speaker 5: on a particular circuit and it's older wiring, then yes,

617
00:35:14,055 --> 00:35:16,135
Speaker 5: from a safety point of view, the board will trip,

618
00:35:16,175 --> 00:35:18,775
Speaker 5: which is what it should do rather than overheating the

619
00:35:19,495 --> 00:35:23,535
Speaker 5: circuits and so on. Yeah, So if you were to

620
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:27,215
Speaker 5: and obviously if you're going to take power from your

621
00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:30,415
Speaker 5: manes or from your distribution board and run it out

622
00:35:30,415 --> 00:35:33,575
Speaker 5: to the garage, you'll need to the electrician will know

623
00:35:33,655 --> 00:35:36,935
Speaker 5: what type of cable and whether you've got sufficient supply

624
00:35:37,055 --> 00:35:38,855
Speaker 5: to the house to be able to supply the garret.

625
00:35:39,255 --> 00:35:41,855
Speaker 5: And then you put some items out there, you will

626
00:35:42,055 --> 00:35:44,815
Speaker 5: reduce the load inside the house and that might help

627
00:35:44,855 --> 00:35:45,415
Speaker 5: you as well.

628
00:35:46,135 --> 00:35:49,015
Speaker 6: So you know, theoretically, yeah.

629
00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:53,335
Speaker 11: I know that it does have a circuit board inside

630
00:35:53,415 --> 00:35:57,215
Speaker 11: the garage, so yeah, it's got its own board. Well

631
00:35:57,255 --> 00:35:59,815
Speaker 11: it did, yeah, but it was broken.

632
00:35:59,975 --> 00:36:02,015
Speaker 3: So yeah, Well, if.

633
00:36:01,895 --> 00:36:04,455
Speaker 5: It's already got a board in the garret, so sub board.

634
00:36:05,255 --> 00:36:07,495
Speaker 5: Then as long as the electric is confident that the

635
00:36:07,535 --> 00:36:09,855
Speaker 5: cable that runs from your house to the board is

636
00:36:09,895 --> 00:36:14,655
Speaker 5: of sufficient size, then yes, you could upgrade the board there,

637
00:36:15,135 --> 00:36:18,535
Speaker 5: add some outlets and put some of those appliances out there.

638
00:36:19,415 --> 00:36:23,255
Speaker 11: Oh good. Now, one last thing is is it possible

639
00:36:23,375 --> 00:36:27,015
Speaker 11: to I mean, because I know rewiring the house is

640
00:36:27,175 --> 00:36:31,575
Speaker 11: very expensive, or it could be Is it possible to

641
00:36:31,695 --> 00:36:36,615
Speaker 11: do bits by bit rewiring or does it have to

642
00:36:36,655 --> 00:36:39,575
Speaker 11: be done in one go? But for the whole house?

643
00:36:39,695 --> 00:36:40,855
Speaker 6: How old is the house?

644
00:36:41,975 --> 00:36:45,975
Speaker 11: It was built in nineteen Oh, my gosh, was it

645
00:36:46,095 --> 00:36:53,775
Speaker 11: nineteen seventy? Okay, so it's not six it's not really old. No, No,

646
00:36:54,615 --> 00:36:55,855
Speaker 11: it was built in the seventies.

647
00:36:56,015 --> 00:36:56,255
Speaker 8: Yes.

648
00:36:57,735 --> 00:37:00,695
Speaker 5: I wonder whether you'd be well served by getting sort

649
00:37:00,695 --> 00:37:03,575
Speaker 5: of a second opinion from another electrician or from an

650
00:37:03,775 --> 00:37:08,695
Speaker 5: electrical engineer, an electrical specter, just around that, because you

651
00:37:08,775 --> 00:37:12,535
Speaker 5: might find actually that the wires themselves, the actual physical

652
00:37:12,575 --> 00:37:15,935
Speaker 5: wire is sufficient, but it might be that you've got

653
00:37:16,015 --> 00:37:20,255
Speaker 5: too many outlets on a particular circuit. So typically when

654
00:37:20,295 --> 00:37:23,775
Speaker 5: you're wiring a house you limit the number of outlets. Now,

655
00:37:24,015 --> 00:37:27,535
Speaker 5: over that time, if someone has gone in and went, oh, actually,

656
00:37:27,575 --> 00:37:29,095
Speaker 5: i'll tell you what, it would be great if I

657
00:37:29,135 --> 00:37:31,615
Speaker 5: had an other PowerPoint there and another one there, and

658
00:37:31,655 --> 00:37:35,535
Speaker 5: they've simply looped off the existing one then possibly you'd

659
00:37:35,535 --> 00:37:38,255
Speaker 5: find so you'd want to have someone come through and

660
00:37:38,255 --> 00:37:42,095
Speaker 5: do a proper survey and test everything, figure out how

661
00:37:42,175 --> 00:37:46,215
Speaker 5: many outlets are connected to a particular circuit. That might

662
00:37:46,255 --> 00:37:49,895
Speaker 5: be part of the issue that the rewiring. The idea

663
00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:52,295
Speaker 5: of pulling all of those wires out and replacing them,

664
00:37:52,375 --> 00:37:55,335
Speaker 5: You're right, that's really difficult to do an insisting house

665
00:37:55,335 --> 00:37:57,135
Speaker 5: because you might end up having to cut holes in

666
00:37:57,175 --> 00:38:00,575
Speaker 5: the wall and those sorts of things. I would be

667
00:38:00,615 --> 00:38:03,135
Speaker 5: a little bit surprised if that was actually required. I

668
00:38:03,175 --> 00:38:05,495
Speaker 5: think it's more likely you might have to run some

669
00:38:05,575 --> 00:38:09,815
Speaker 5: new circuit, which means putting in an updated board with

670
00:38:10,135 --> 00:38:13,175
Speaker 5: modern breakers on it, for example, which would also be

671
00:38:13,215 --> 00:38:16,015
Speaker 5: safer for the property. And in some cases you may

672
00:38:16,055 --> 00:38:19,735
Speaker 5: not need to replace all of the wires as such.

673
00:38:21,255 --> 00:38:23,655
Speaker 5: But hey, look, I think getting a second opinion, and

674
00:38:23,695 --> 00:38:27,135
Speaker 5: certainly maybe getting sort of a professional opinion from an

675
00:38:27,135 --> 00:38:30,695
Speaker 5: electrical inspector would be money well spent. Good luck on

676
00:38:30,695 --> 00:38:32,535
Speaker 5: that one. Be take a break, We'll come back and

677
00:38:32,575 --> 00:38:35,975
Speaker 5: talk to Carl in just a moment. A text with

678
00:38:36,015 --> 00:38:39,575
Speaker 5: regard to that issue around the driveway and the sharing

679
00:38:39,615 --> 00:38:43,295
Speaker 5: of costs and so on, suggest you're getting lost in

680
00:38:43,335 --> 00:38:46,495
Speaker 5: the weeds re the shared ownership of the drive issue,

681
00:38:46,495 --> 00:38:49,175
Speaker 5: as there would be legal ownership structure for the drive

682
00:38:49,175 --> 00:38:52,335
Speaker 5: and accordingly an agreement and process for repairs costs. So

683
00:38:52,455 --> 00:38:57,015
Speaker 5: what you've outlined all sounds like bs with respect. No,

684
00:38:57,975 --> 00:39:00,975
Speaker 5: so have a look at the article online. That's what

685
00:39:00,975 --> 00:39:06,135
Speaker 5: I'm reporting on or recounting, is that there may well

686
00:39:06,175 --> 00:39:10,495
Speaker 5: have been a process, but either way the process wasn't followed,

687
00:39:10,535 --> 00:39:15,415
Speaker 5: and therefore one of the ten people that has access

688
00:39:15,415 --> 00:39:19,335
Speaker 5: and shared ownership of the driveway didn't end up needing

689
00:39:19,455 --> 00:39:22,495
Speaker 5: to contribute to the repair done by one of the

690
00:39:22,535 --> 00:39:25,215
Speaker 5: other owners with the agreement of the other parties. So

691
00:39:26,015 --> 00:39:28,455
Speaker 5: at eight balls, I was going to say the word

692
00:39:28,655 --> 00:39:31,335
Speaker 5: it's not have a look at the article online. I

693
00:39:31,375 --> 00:39:34,415
Speaker 5: agree there probably is some legal structure, but either way,

694
00:39:34,775 --> 00:39:37,975
Speaker 5: the process wasn't followed, and the person when in front

695
00:39:38,015 --> 00:39:42,015
Speaker 5: of the dispute stribunal, the adjudicator said no, I'm not

696
00:39:42,055 --> 00:39:44,975
Speaker 5: going to enforce an order for you to contribute your

697
00:39:45,215 --> 00:39:48,255
Speaker 5: one tenth share of the cost of the repairs. So

698
00:39:48,775 --> 00:39:51,615
Speaker 5: have a look at the article online for your fire

699
00:39:51,655 --> 00:39:55,055
Speaker 5: off texts. Righty oh, we are back straight after news,

700
00:39:55,175 --> 00:39:59,175
Speaker 5: sport and weather. Remember we've got the all Blacks at

701
00:39:59,335 --> 00:40:01,295
Speaker 5: nine o'clock this morning as well, so we'll hand over

702
00:40:01,335 --> 00:40:03,735
Speaker 5: to the commentary team at around eight forty five back

703
00:40:03,735 --> 00:40:34,375
Speaker 5: after the break. Welcome back to the program. Pete wolf

704
00:40:34,415 --> 00:40:37,535
Speaker 5: Camp is my name. This is the resident builder on Sunday,

705
00:40:37,575 --> 00:40:40,215
Speaker 5: and thanks for joining us. It's a real pleasure. Oh

706
00:40:40,295 --> 00:40:42,655
Speaker 5: eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

707
00:40:42,655 --> 00:40:44,975
Speaker 5: to call nine two ninety two for the texts, and

708
00:40:45,295 --> 00:40:48,695
Speaker 5: email is Pete Atnewstalk zb dot co dot nz. So

709
00:40:49,015 --> 00:40:51,975
Speaker 5: we'll take your calls on to be fair whatever's in

710
00:40:51,975 --> 00:40:55,135
Speaker 5: front of you with regard to building. So on the program,

711
00:40:55,135 --> 00:40:59,055
Speaker 5: we've talked about tongue grew flooring, We've talked about curving jimboard,

712
00:40:59,095 --> 00:41:02,055
Speaker 5: we've talked about fencing, we've talked about wet areas, we've

713
00:41:02,055 --> 00:41:04,375
Speaker 5: talked a little bit about electrical We're going to have

714
00:41:04,375 --> 00:41:06,135
Speaker 5: a chat with Carl in just a moment and if

715
00:41:06,135 --> 00:41:08,855
Speaker 5: you'd like to join us, the number is eight hundred

716
00:41:08,855 --> 00:41:11,295
Speaker 5: and eighty ten eighty. Quick rundown of what we're doing

717
00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:13,455
Speaker 5: this morning at around seven forty five, we can take

718
00:41:13,455 --> 00:41:16,215
Speaker 5: a deep dive into some of the kind of practical

719
00:41:16,255 --> 00:41:20,255
Speaker 5: considerations around retrofit double glazing. So if you've got existing

720
00:41:20,775 --> 00:41:23,575
Speaker 5: joinery that is single glazed and you want to move

721
00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:25,975
Speaker 5: to double glazing for a whole bunch of reasons that

722
00:41:26,015 --> 00:41:31,215
Speaker 5: we already know make a massive difference to the performance

723
00:41:31,335 --> 00:41:34,255
Speaker 5: of your house. You can do that, but let's have

724
00:41:34,295 --> 00:41:37,295
Speaker 5: a deep dive into what types of sashes and what

725
00:41:37,335 --> 00:41:40,775
Speaker 5: the process is. We'll do that with Nikkarti Jones after

726
00:41:40,815 --> 00:41:42,455
Speaker 5: the news at eight o'clock, we didn't catch up with

727
00:41:42,535 --> 00:41:45,095
Speaker 5: a young man by the name of Hunter Moon who

728
00:41:45,375 --> 00:41:50,975
Speaker 5: was awarded the title of Carpentry Apprentice of the Year.

729
00:41:51,215 --> 00:41:53,975
Speaker 5: Actually when along had to look at the practical test

730
00:41:54,055 --> 00:41:58,815
Speaker 5: for that and then attended the gala dinner and had

731
00:41:58,815 --> 00:42:02,095
Speaker 5: to look at what all of the competitors were outstanding.

732
00:42:02,215 --> 00:42:05,575
Speaker 5: In order to get to the national final, you had

733
00:42:05,575 --> 00:42:07,815
Speaker 5: to win your re each and or final. And so

734
00:42:07,815 --> 00:42:09,615
Speaker 5: we're going to have a quick chat with Hunter at

735
00:42:09,615 --> 00:42:12,135
Speaker 5: a round just after eight o'clock. The root Climb Pass

736
00:42:12,215 --> 00:42:14,895
Speaker 5: will be joining us earlier so that we still get

737
00:42:14,935 --> 00:42:18,215
Speaker 5: a good half hour of gardening in because at quarter

738
00:42:18,255 --> 00:42:20,015
Speaker 5: to nine, at eight forty five, we are going to

739
00:42:20,015 --> 00:42:22,695
Speaker 5: hand over to the commentary team. The All Blacks are

740
00:42:22,735 --> 00:42:26,895
Speaker 5: playing France in France in Paris and we will take

741
00:42:27,095 --> 00:42:30,215
Speaker 5: live commentary from nine o'clock and we'll start that commentary

742
00:42:30,255 --> 00:42:33,375
Speaker 5: at about quarter to eight, quarter to nine this morning.

743
00:42:33,935 --> 00:42:36,855
Speaker 5: That's the lineup. Give us a call right now. Oh

744
00:42:36,935 --> 00:42:39,575
Speaker 5: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number. Hello Carl,

745
00:42:39,575 --> 00:42:40,495
Speaker 5: thanks for waiting.

746
00:42:41,055 --> 00:42:41,535
Speaker 3: Good morning.

747
00:42:41,535 --> 00:42:43,175
Speaker 6: How are you good?

748
00:42:44,055 --> 00:42:46,695
Speaker 12: I don't even if you can't help me. But I

749
00:42:46,775 --> 00:42:49,255
Speaker 12: bought an old house on a bit of land and

750
00:42:49,255 --> 00:42:53,935
Speaker 12: gives them about twenty five years ago, and I've subdivised it,

751
00:42:54,015 --> 00:42:55,975
Speaker 12: built a couple of little houses. But the last three

752
00:42:56,015 --> 00:43:00,335
Speaker 12: sections there's we've just done a big geotech report and

753
00:43:00,375 --> 00:43:03,615
Speaker 12: it's contaminated all us. Apparently the guy that owned the

754
00:43:03,615 --> 00:43:06,775
Speaker 12: place before me to drop pass seal all sorts of

755
00:43:06,775 --> 00:43:10,375
Speaker 12: bits and pieces and so, accorded to a geotech report.

756
00:43:10,415 --> 00:43:14,215
Speaker 12: The seven hundred and fifty cubic meters of cheap contaminated

757
00:43:14,895 --> 00:43:18,095
Speaker 12: material to go to why he from Grisbine. It's about

758
00:43:18,135 --> 00:43:20,015
Speaker 12: seventy five truckloads at my expense.

759
00:43:20,415 --> 00:43:20,575
Speaker 8: Yep.

760
00:43:20,855 --> 00:43:24,255
Speaker 12: I just wondered if I had any sort of come

761
00:43:24,255 --> 00:43:26,055
Speaker 12: back on councer or anything like that, or yeah, I

762
00:43:26,055 --> 00:43:27,855
Speaker 12: bought it in good faith obviously.

763
00:43:28,095 --> 00:43:31,655
Speaker 5: Yes, but you didn't buy it from council you would

764
00:43:31,695 --> 00:43:37,015
Speaker 5: have bought it from a private individual who owned that land. Yeah,

765
00:43:37,055 --> 00:43:39,775
Speaker 5: and then they've used it sort of well.

766
00:43:41,615 --> 00:43:44,415
Speaker 12: With your works with somebody like that, to be fair.

767
00:43:44,495 --> 00:43:48,095
Speaker 5: You know, was back in the day not terribly uncommon, right,

768
00:43:49,175 --> 00:43:53,775
Speaker 5: and potentially the person that did the dumping, you know,

769
00:43:53,935 --> 00:43:58,375
Speaker 5: did so maybe even lawfully in a sense, right, in

770
00:43:58,415 --> 00:44:01,135
Speaker 5: the sense that there wouldn't have been the same regulations

771
00:44:01,175 --> 00:44:05,215
Speaker 5: today as there might have been there. So I think, look,

772
00:44:05,295 --> 00:44:08,855
Speaker 5: your chances of having some sort of successful legal outcome

773
00:44:09,015 --> 00:44:13,135
Speaker 5: against either a previous owner or about against council or

774
00:44:13,175 --> 00:44:19,575
Speaker 5: anything like that, you know, slim, right, I mean, look,

775
00:44:19,895 --> 00:44:21,935
Speaker 5: in the end, get legal advice on it. And that's

776
00:44:22,015 --> 00:44:25,655
Speaker 5: ultimately where this might go. Certainly, it would be cost

777
00:44:25,775 --> 00:44:29,895
Speaker 5: prohibitive for you to spend the money you need to

778
00:44:29,975 --> 00:44:34,215
Speaker 5: spend to remediate the land, so excavating seven hundred and

779
00:44:34,215 --> 00:44:37,495
Speaker 5: fifty and if that's seven hundred and fifty cubic meters tight,

780
00:44:37,935 --> 00:44:40,295
Speaker 5: then by the time you excavate, it's going to bulk

781
00:44:40,455 --> 00:44:43,535
Speaker 5: and double in size. So in fact, your seventy five

782
00:44:43,575 --> 00:44:46,655
Speaker 5: truckloads is more like one hundred and fifty truckloads trucking

783
00:44:46,655 --> 00:44:50,615
Speaker 5: those from gisbone to why he to an approved tip site.

784
00:44:51,215 --> 00:44:52,855
Speaker 6: If you said to me, spent quarter.

785
00:44:52,655 --> 00:44:54,855
Speaker 12: Of a million dollars and then you've got to sell

786
00:44:54,895 --> 00:44:55,495
Speaker 12: it back up again.

787
00:44:55,575 --> 00:44:57,055
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you've got to fill it back up

788
00:44:57,095 --> 00:45:01,455
Speaker 5: again and all the rest of it. To me, it

789
00:45:01,495 --> 00:45:03,935
Speaker 5: feels like the land is just a bit of a

790
00:45:03,975 --> 00:45:07,935
Speaker 5: write off, you know. I mean, and look, that's easy

791
00:45:07,935 --> 00:45:09,855
Speaker 5: for me to say because I don't have my life

792
00:45:09,935 --> 00:45:13,815
Speaker 5: savings tied up in it, and I'm certainly sympathetic, but

793
00:45:13,895 --> 00:45:17,455
Speaker 5: I just from a practical point of view, I can't

794
00:45:17,495 --> 00:45:21,095
Speaker 5: see how the cost to remediate is going to be

795
00:45:21,175 --> 00:45:25,135
Speaker 5: recouped by the profit from the development, I guess is

796
00:45:25,175 --> 00:45:25,815
Speaker 5: what you're saying.

797
00:45:27,135 --> 00:45:28,735
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I just said, it's just

798
00:45:28,775 --> 00:45:31,455
Speaker 12: some way around it, was my look.

799
00:45:31,815 --> 00:45:36,095
Speaker 5: I mean, potentially you could talk to some other environmental engineers,

800
00:45:38,495 --> 00:45:42,935
Speaker 5: but again, you know, the hard thing I think with

801
00:45:43,535 --> 00:45:48,135
Speaker 5: having discussions with professionals about this issue is that if

802
00:45:48,135 --> 00:45:50,615
Speaker 5: they give you advice to say this is what's going

803
00:45:50,695 --> 00:45:54,455
Speaker 5: to work, they end up essentially putting their X on

804
00:45:54,495 --> 00:45:57,735
Speaker 5: the chopping block, right, They become liable. So if they

805
00:45:57,735 --> 00:46:00,375
Speaker 5: said to you, oh, well look you could do this,

806
00:46:00,535 --> 00:46:03,375
Speaker 5: here's a solution for you, and then the solution fails

807
00:46:03,415 --> 00:46:06,655
Speaker 5: for some reason, they then become liable and that's why

808
00:46:07,095 --> 00:46:10,695
Speaker 5: typically they are incredibly risk averse, so they're not going

809
00:46:10,695 --> 00:46:13,815
Speaker 5: to give you anything other than a gold plated solution.

810
00:46:16,415 --> 00:46:19,655
Speaker 5: Interestingly enough, just quickly, as an a site, I was

811
00:46:20,495 --> 00:46:24,015
Speaker 5: looking at a building, a large building that was built

812
00:46:25,015 --> 00:46:27,255
Speaker 5: reasonably near an old landfill.

813
00:46:27,535 --> 00:46:27,735
Speaker 6: Right.

814
00:46:27,815 --> 00:46:31,175
Speaker 5: So again there were issues about contamination in the ground,

815
00:46:31,215 --> 00:46:34,255
Speaker 5: and there was issues around what happens when we put

816
00:46:34,255 --> 00:46:36,735
Speaker 5: a great, big concrete slab over the top of what

817
00:46:36,895 --> 00:46:40,855
Speaker 5: could be methane being released from an old landfill. And

818
00:46:40,935 --> 00:46:45,535
Speaker 5: so in that instance, what was done was the building

819
00:46:45,575 --> 00:46:50,375
Speaker 5: was slightly elevated concrete ring foundation with ventilation so that

820
00:46:50,495 --> 00:46:53,135
Speaker 5: if there was a buildup of methane underneath, it could

821
00:46:53,135 --> 00:46:55,655
Speaker 5: be vented and you could monitor that for a period

822
00:46:55,695 --> 00:46:59,215
Speaker 5: of time some years after the building. We're only talking

823
00:46:59,295 --> 00:47:01,775
Speaker 5: four to five years after the building was built. The

824
00:47:01,855 --> 00:47:04,415
Speaker 5: monitoring has come to an end because the methane levels

825
00:47:04,415 --> 00:47:06,375
Speaker 5: have dropped to the point where anything that was in

826
00:47:06,415 --> 00:47:08,895
Speaker 5: the ground has been exhausted and gone and there's no

827
00:47:09,215 --> 00:47:12,175
Speaker 5: health issues for anyone. But you know, this is this

828
00:47:12,375 --> 00:47:17,175
Speaker 5: was a twelve to fifteen million dollar development, you know,

829
00:47:17,255 --> 00:47:20,055
Speaker 5: and could be managed in that way. That's outside of

830
00:47:20,095 --> 00:47:21,495
Speaker 5: the scope of what you're doing a.

831
00:47:22,335 --> 00:47:25,735
Speaker 12: Oh for sure, yeah, hell yah, yeah, yeah yeah, Okay.

832
00:47:26,295 --> 00:47:29,775
Speaker 5: Look, get legal advice. Please don't take legal advice from me.

833
00:47:30,015 --> 00:47:33,975
Speaker 5: But I suspect that you already know that. Perhaps you're

834
00:47:34,015 --> 00:47:36,295
Speaker 5: just going to say that's going to be a nice

835
00:47:36,335 --> 00:47:39,055
Speaker 5: piece of green space and that's about it.

836
00:47:40,135 --> 00:47:42,255
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's what that's what's taken up to be.

837
00:47:42,295 --> 00:47:46,855
Speaker 5: It makes a nice garden. That's probably not when you

838
00:47:46,895 --> 00:47:49,535
Speaker 5: want to hear. But you could do the right thing

839
00:47:49,535 --> 00:47:52,095
Speaker 5: and plant some natives and get some wildlife back in

840
00:47:52,095 --> 00:48:01,335
Speaker 5: the area. Oh nice, they take care by then. Oh,

841
00:48:01,455 --> 00:48:03,055
Speaker 5: that's not an easy situation to be in.

842
00:48:03,655 --> 00:48:04,535
Speaker 6: That is not easy.

843
00:48:04,935 --> 00:48:06,815
Speaker 5: Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you'd like to

844
00:48:06,815 --> 00:48:09,575
Speaker 5: talk building, well, I'd love to. Oh, eight hundred eighty

845
00:48:09,575 --> 00:48:11,495
Speaker 5: ten eighties the number. I just got to grab this text.

846
00:48:11,535 --> 00:48:14,615
Speaker 5: This looks fascinating. Is there a time limit for pulling

847
00:48:14,615 --> 00:48:16,895
Speaker 5: down and putting up a fence? The current fence, It

848
00:48:16,935 --> 00:48:21,255
Speaker 5: does about one day a week. The fence has been

849
00:48:21,295 --> 00:48:24,895
Speaker 5: opened for two weeks so far in counting. Look, it

850
00:48:24,975 --> 00:48:27,495
Speaker 5: depends on who's paying for them, right, So if you're

851
00:48:27,535 --> 00:48:29,895
Speaker 5: paying for them, I think it's fair to say I'd

852
00:48:29,935 --> 00:48:31,495
Speaker 5: like you to come and just finish the job.

853
00:48:31,735 --> 00:48:31,935
Speaker 4: Right.

854
00:48:33,095 --> 00:48:36,215
Speaker 5: If it's something that a neighbor has organized, then you've

855
00:48:36,215 --> 00:48:39,255
Speaker 5: got to go back to the neighbor to do it. Yeah,

856
00:48:39,255 --> 00:48:43,975
Speaker 5: one day a week. It's not really progress, is it.

857
00:48:45,655 --> 00:48:47,815
Speaker 5: They might have a chat to the person. That's the

858
00:48:47,855 --> 00:48:50,975
Speaker 5: best way. And this was a comment from the last hour,

859
00:48:51,415 --> 00:48:53,175
Speaker 5: talking about a house that was built in the seventies

860
00:48:53,175 --> 00:48:55,255
Speaker 5: and me saying it's not that old. Pete, I was

861
00:48:55,255 --> 00:48:57,495
Speaker 5: born in the seventies. Thank you for saying that house

862
00:48:57,575 --> 00:48:59,735
Speaker 5: wasn't that old from us? Fair enough, mate, I was

863
00:48:59,735 --> 00:49:01,455
Speaker 5: born in the sixties. So much, And how I feel.

864
00:49:01,615 --> 00:49:03,695
Speaker 5: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to

865
00:49:03,695 --> 00:49:06,295
Speaker 5: call and Helga, A very good morning to you.

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Speaker 13: Oh hi, I've just bought a brand new town house

867
00:49:11,175 --> 00:49:17,295
Speaker 13: in Avondale. And there's one problem. I've built cupboards which

868
00:49:17,335 --> 00:49:20,695
Speaker 13: are really up high and I'm five foot one right,

869
00:49:20,775 --> 00:49:24,415
Speaker 13: and there's no food pantry cupboard.

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00:49:24,975 --> 00:49:25,375
Speaker 14: Mm hmm.

871
00:49:26,375 --> 00:49:29,695
Speaker 13: I was wondering is it good like micause? Some probably

872
00:49:29,695 --> 00:49:33,935
Speaker 13: could make it, EASi toilely could make Is it good

873
00:49:33,935 --> 00:49:35,335
Speaker 13: to make it in plywood?

874
00:49:36,895 --> 00:49:40,415
Speaker 5: Certainly you can make cupboards out of Plywood, I would

875
00:49:40,975 --> 00:49:46,415
Speaker 5: cover it. So I think that you know, if you

876
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Speaker 5: did in Plywood and it's going to be in an

877
00:49:48,295 --> 00:49:51,415
Speaker 5: area essentially, which is a food preparation area, you'd want

878
00:49:51,455 --> 00:49:53,575
Speaker 5: to give it a really good coat of polyurethane as well,

879
00:49:53,615 --> 00:49:54,775
Speaker 5: just to seal the plywood.

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00:49:55,815 --> 00:49:59,495
Speaker 13: Yep, okay, but it's good because of the lighter. He'll

881
00:49:59,735 --> 00:50:02,335
Speaker 13: properly build it out of the house and then bring it.

882
00:50:02,255 --> 00:50:03,295
Speaker 15: Inside and bring it in.

883
00:50:03,375 --> 00:50:03,575
Speaker 6: Yeah.

884
00:50:03,975 --> 00:50:06,575
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, an extra cabinet or something like that. What's

885
00:50:06,575 --> 00:50:07,015
Speaker 5: great for that?

886
00:50:07,935 --> 00:50:10,375
Speaker 13: Yeah, because I've got my food or in the china

887
00:50:10,455 --> 00:50:13,775
Speaker 13: cabin Oh crazy. I can only pop the way the

888
00:50:13,895 --> 00:50:16,575
Speaker 13: built the place the kitchen as the pops go down

889
00:50:16,615 --> 00:50:20,535
Speaker 13: the barn, and I could never reach up the top

890
00:50:20,975 --> 00:50:23,335
Speaker 13: to pop the food. And it's all too high. And

891
00:50:23,375 --> 00:50:27,255
Speaker 13: even my neighbors that every place, forty six of them,

892
00:50:27,295 --> 00:50:28,375
Speaker 13: little saying.

893
00:50:29,735 --> 00:50:33,895
Speaker 5: I guess I'm curious. Now, did you buy off the

894
00:50:33,935 --> 00:50:36,575
Speaker 5: plans or did you go to an open home have

895
00:50:36,615 --> 00:50:37,255
Speaker 5: a look around.

896
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Speaker 13: I had to go and buy an open home, right,

897
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Speaker 13: I just sold the house and Walkers, yes, and my

898
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Speaker 13: land agents found that I came in that January and

899
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Speaker 13: we found that in August.

900
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Speaker 5: I suppose what I'm curious about is is was it

901
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Speaker 5: something that you overlooked Let's say when you had a

902
00:50:58,655 --> 00:51:00,295
Speaker 5: look at you know, you walk through the house and

903
00:51:00,335 --> 00:51:01,895
Speaker 5: you go, okay, how am I going to live in

904
00:51:01,895 --> 00:51:03,615
Speaker 5: the house. I'll put my couch over there, the TV

905
00:51:03,735 --> 00:51:06,895
Speaker 5: goes over there, here's my kitchen, And did you think

906
00:51:06,895 --> 00:51:08,855
Speaker 5: about food storage and that sort of thing?

907
00:51:08,975 --> 00:51:10,495
Speaker 6: Or is it that I.

908
00:51:10,575 --> 00:51:14,135
Speaker 13: Said that to my son? Yeah, but it's so hard.

909
00:51:14,455 --> 00:51:16,975
Speaker 13: I wanted to brand you. I've looked at so many

910
00:51:17,655 --> 00:51:18,815
Speaker 13: old places.

911
00:51:19,015 --> 00:51:19,815
Speaker 16: Yes, much.

912
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Speaker 13: So. Yeah, good price loose from a seven hundred thousand

913
00:51:26,575 --> 00:51:27,695
Speaker 13: to six seven five.

914
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Speaker 5: There's an upside to a downside. And the downside for

915
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Speaker 5: the industry is that, you know, there's more sellers than

916
00:51:36,895 --> 00:51:39,175
Speaker 5: there are buyers, which means that the price drop. So

917
00:51:39,295 --> 00:51:44,335
Speaker 5: now is a great time to be buying in certain Yeah,

918
00:51:44,415 --> 00:51:45,815
Speaker 5: good on you, Good on you.

919
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Speaker 10: Yep.

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Speaker 5: All the very best you, Helga, and all the best

921
00:51:49,295 --> 00:51:50,615
Speaker 5: for the new house as well.

922
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952
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Speaker 5: team at around eight forty five. Michelle, A very good morning.

953
00:53:43,575 --> 00:53:48,735
Speaker 14: A h good morning. I have question about your house

954
00:53:48,855 --> 00:53:52,575
Speaker 14: and the workmans sheep repair into maintenance issues.

955
00:53:52,735 --> 00:53:54,255
Speaker 16: Yes, I've brought.

956
00:53:54,015 --> 00:53:58,695
Speaker 14: You you have just a sayholder about just about a

957
00:53:58,775 --> 00:54:05,015
Speaker 14: four weeks and there's some problems like pumped nails and

958
00:54:05,095 --> 00:54:10,055
Speaker 14: the painting is shules and door issues in them, but

959
00:54:10,175 --> 00:54:12,935
Speaker 14: lots of other issues. This is bring you them a house,

960
00:54:13,895 --> 00:54:19,415
Speaker 14: you know. I contact them in the developer and the

961
00:54:19,415 --> 00:54:22,855
Speaker 14: project manager and it came to fix it the couple

962
00:54:22,855 --> 00:54:28,135
Speaker 14: of times. But now they stopped fixing it and they

963
00:54:28,295 --> 00:54:34,495
Speaker 14: force something to the lawyer and pass the information to

964
00:54:34,655 --> 00:54:39,535
Speaker 14: my purchase lawyer. So I understand that the purchase is finished.

965
00:54:40,055 --> 00:54:40,455
Speaker 2: Lawyer.

966
00:54:41,575 --> 00:54:44,015
Speaker 14: If I talk, if I use the lawyer, I will

967
00:54:44,095 --> 00:54:50,655
Speaker 14: pay extra cost. My question is I need your help

968
00:54:50,775 --> 00:54:56,015
Speaker 14: to give me some directions to how I can come

969
00:54:56,095 --> 00:54:59,935
Speaker 14: back the developer or the builders to come back to

970
00:54:59,975 --> 00:55:05,255
Speaker 14: fix it, because now they are refused to talk to me,

971
00:55:05,935 --> 00:55:10,975
Speaker 14: to talk of the sailing agent. When I purchase data,

972
00:55:11,055 --> 00:55:15,655
Speaker 14: there there is the leasing agent and buy agent. So

973
00:55:16,415 --> 00:55:20,695
Speaker 14: I start off in the mean of nowhere in the middle.

974
00:55:20,775 --> 00:55:27,975
Speaker 5: Help sure there are rights and responsibilities, right, so the

975
00:55:28,655 --> 00:55:34,695
Speaker 5: builder who might be the developer, still has responsibility for

976
00:55:35,135 --> 00:55:38,695
Speaker 5: the quality of the work and defects for a period

977
00:55:38,735 --> 00:55:43,295
Speaker 5: of time, So typically for one year after you take in.

978
00:55:43,615 --> 00:55:47,095
Speaker 5: Then you know, reasonable defects need to be fixed by

979
00:55:47,735 --> 00:55:50,775
Speaker 5: the developer and they can't really opt out of that.

980
00:55:51,295 --> 00:55:56,415
Speaker 5: So things like you know, fixings popping in the plaster board,

981
00:55:56,935 --> 00:56:01,895
Speaker 5: those sorts of things reasonably should be fixed. If for example,

982
00:56:01,975 --> 00:56:05,815
Speaker 5: a door is sticking or the handle falls off, those

983
00:56:05,855 --> 00:56:09,855
Speaker 5: sorts of things, they have to respond to that for

984
00:56:10,015 --> 00:56:14,495
Speaker 5: at least the first year. Beyond there sometimes you know,

985
00:56:14,575 --> 00:56:16,775
Speaker 5: those things can be seen as wear and tear, but

986
00:56:16,895 --> 00:56:20,495
Speaker 5: certainly for the first year. My understanding is that they

987
00:56:20,615 --> 00:56:22,975
Speaker 5: do need to keep coming back and fix it. Now,

988
00:56:23,015 --> 00:56:26,015
Speaker 5: if they have done a not great job and they've

989
00:56:26,055 --> 00:56:30,375
Speaker 5: got lots of things to fix, that's their problem, not yours, right,

990
00:56:30,455 --> 00:56:35,135
Speaker 5: so I can see what's going to happen. They've come back,

991
00:56:35,175 --> 00:56:37,815
Speaker 5: they've made an effort to fix some things, and then

992
00:56:37,855 --> 00:56:40,975
Speaker 5: they'll say, look, we're not interested in doing anymore. Well,

993
00:56:40,975 --> 00:56:44,095
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter that they're not interested. They still have

994
00:56:44,695 --> 00:56:49,095
Speaker 5: a legal responsibility. I do wonder, Michelle, whether you are

995
00:56:49,215 --> 00:56:52,335
Speaker 5: going to have to pay for your lawyer to remind

996
00:56:52,415 --> 00:57:00,535
Speaker 5: them of those legal responsibilities. So you know, there's two options.

997
00:57:00,535 --> 00:57:03,375
Speaker 5: One is that you try and do some research or

998
00:57:03,375 --> 00:57:06,215
Speaker 5: get some advice from someone who's familiar with this. Might

999
00:57:06,215 --> 00:57:08,735
Speaker 5: be a real estate agent, might be a friend, might

1000
00:57:08,775 --> 00:57:12,695
Speaker 5: be another builder that you know, and go through find out,

1001
00:57:12,815 --> 00:57:15,495
Speaker 5: have a look through your contract, see what's included in

1002
00:57:15,575 --> 00:57:18,935
Speaker 5: the contract. Then also have a look at the legislation

1003
00:57:19,135 --> 00:57:23,455
Speaker 5: around building defects and send them a letter saying, hey, look,

1004
00:57:23,495 --> 00:57:25,975
Speaker 5: can I remind you these things are written in law?

1005
00:57:26,535 --> 00:57:29,495
Speaker 5: Or you'll get your lawyer to do exactly that. But

1006
00:57:29,535 --> 00:57:31,655
Speaker 5: you're right, if you get your lawyer to do it,

1007
00:57:31,655 --> 00:57:32,735
Speaker 5: it is going to cost you.

1008
00:57:35,375 --> 00:57:40,095
Speaker 14: Okay, okay, how often do you think you that should

1009
00:57:40,175 --> 00:57:44,255
Speaker 14: be or how early it should be done? Because I

1010
00:57:44,335 --> 00:57:49,535
Speaker 14: heard something, it's after stay told it should be something.

1011
00:57:49,655 --> 00:57:52,215
Speaker 14: Need to be effected within three months.

1012
00:57:53,855 --> 00:57:56,535
Speaker 5: Again, I'd have to check the legislation. My understanding was

1013
00:57:56,575 --> 00:57:57,175
Speaker 5: that it's.

1014
00:57:59,615 --> 00:58:02,095
Speaker 6: Like there is a.

1015
00:58:02,055 --> 00:58:04,735
Speaker 5: Requirement to remediate, right, So if there's a fault with

1016
00:58:04,815 --> 00:58:07,975
Speaker 5: the building, and it's definitely the builder's fault, they have

1017
00:58:08,095 --> 00:58:12,135
Speaker 5: a requirement to fix that. But typically they have up

1018
00:58:12,215 --> 00:58:14,055
Speaker 5: to a year to respond.

1019
00:58:16,255 --> 00:58:16,455
Speaker 4: Year.

1020
00:58:17,095 --> 00:58:21,415
Speaker 14: One year, yeah, I understand, there's one years. We're seen

1021
00:58:21,455 --> 00:58:22,655
Speaker 14: one years.

1022
00:58:23,695 --> 00:58:26,095
Speaker 5: No, this is this is slightly different. This is because

1023
00:58:26,495 --> 00:58:30,495
Speaker 5: remember you know, as as builders, we're responsible for our

1024
00:58:30,575 --> 00:58:35,895
Speaker 5: work for up to ten years, right, so things things

1025
00:58:36,015 --> 00:58:38,575
Speaker 5: like you know, if if the deck starts to sag,

1026
00:58:38,735 --> 00:58:42,775
Speaker 5: or the floor SAgs, or there's excessive cracking in the walls,

1027
00:58:42,815 --> 00:58:46,095
Speaker 5: those sorts of things we're responsible for up to ten years. Now,

1028
00:58:46,095 --> 00:58:48,095
Speaker 5: if you had a big issue in five years time,

1029
00:58:48,935 --> 00:58:52,695
Speaker 5: seemingly a prompt response from the builder is actually to

1030
00:58:52,775 --> 00:58:55,095
Speaker 5: do it within one year. That's what's in the law

1031
00:58:55,135 --> 00:58:55,615
Speaker 5: at the moment.

1032
00:58:59,735 --> 00:59:00,735
Speaker 6: I do wonder.

1033
00:59:00,495 --> 00:59:03,735
Speaker 5: Whether you the quickest way to get them back is

1034
00:59:03,775 --> 00:59:07,015
Speaker 5: probably to go to your lawyer, get them to draft

1035
00:59:07,055 --> 00:59:11,455
Speaker 5: a letter reminding them of their responsibilities and and see

1036
00:59:11,455 --> 00:59:12,215
Speaker 5: if that works.

1037
00:59:13,535 --> 00:59:22,935
Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, okay, it's I know it would be nice

1038
00:59:22,975 --> 00:59:26,135
Speaker 16: if you could simply, you know, send an email saying, hey, look,

1039
00:59:26,175 --> 00:59:28,775
Speaker 16: by the way, here's some photographs of some things that

1040
00:59:28,815 --> 00:59:29,895
Speaker 16: are not right with the house.

1041
00:59:30,175 --> 00:59:35,175
Speaker 5: Could you send someone over to fix it. But developers

1042
00:59:35,215 --> 00:59:38,215
Speaker 5: don't typically have a great reputation around these sorts of things,

1043
00:59:39,135 --> 00:59:42,095
Speaker 5: depending on whether you've you've used a company that's well

1044
00:59:42,135 --> 00:59:44,975
Speaker 5: known or a company that perhaps got established last year

1045
00:59:45,015 --> 00:59:47,535
Speaker 5: and will probably be gone next year. You know, this

1046
00:59:47,615 --> 00:59:49,775
Speaker 5: is the problem we have with the industry.

1047
00:59:49,415 --> 00:59:53,495
Speaker 14: Right you know, tool they build, how did they build

1048
00:59:53,535 --> 00:59:56,175
Speaker 14: a one property set up in your register with the

1049
00:59:56,255 --> 01:00:00,975
Speaker 14: one one your company and were startled at this class company?

1050
01:00:01,655 --> 01:00:05,655
Speaker 14: What I mean, because there's a lot of issus and

1051
01:00:05,775 --> 01:00:09,615
Speaker 14: problems on the wall, and it's really effect to my

1052
01:00:09,735 --> 01:00:13,455
Speaker 14: everyday's life because when they come to paint the war

1053
01:00:13,655 --> 01:00:17,855
Speaker 14: in a scratchy and plastic and stand it in the paint,

1054
01:00:18,215 --> 01:00:23,535
Speaker 14: there's a lot of fast and I so my furnitures

1055
01:00:23,855 --> 01:00:27,455
Speaker 14: I cannot close to the war, but I have to

1056
01:00:27,495 --> 01:00:30,615
Speaker 14: prepare for them to come back to fix it. You know,

1057
01:00:30,655 --> 01:00:34,335
Speaker 14: also from the experience, the last couple of times become

1058
01:00:34,535 --> 01:00:38,935
Speaker 14: we donut know this so because other houses not so

1059
01:00:39,215 --> 01:00:42,095
Speaker 14: it though, so they come and see, oh if i'm home,

1060
01:00:42,175 --> 01:00:45,735
Speaker 14: they come to fix it. They don't make appointment, so.

1061
01:00:45,935 --> 01:00:48,975
Speaker 5: It doesn't give me come to It's not terribly professional,

1062
01:00:50,375 --> 01:00:55,055
Speaker 5: I guess. I guess the other approach might be, if

1063
01:00:55,415 --> 01:00:58,415
Speaker 5: you think that there's a general issue with the quality

1064
01:00:58,415 --> 01:01:02,375
Speaker 5: of the building, is you could get someone like a

1065
01:01:02,415 --> 01:01:08,015
Speaker 5: registered building surveyor to come and do a report and

1066
01:01:08,055 --> 01:01:11,295
Speaker 5: then hand that report back to the developer and they

1067
01:01:11,375 --> 01:01:14,215
Speaker 5: might be able to give you some guidance. But that's

1068
01:01:14,335 --> 01:01:18,375
Speaker 5: also going to cost you, which is fair enough. Yeah,

1069
01:01:18,415 --> 01:01:21,375
Speaker 5: So look, I think in the first instance, Michelle, I

1070
01:01:21,415 --> 01:01:23,775
Speaker 5: would probably suggest that you're going to have to talk

1071
01:01:23,775 --> 01:01:26,815
Speaker 5: to your lawyer about understanding exactly what your rights are

1072
01:01:27,215 --> 01:01:31,095
Speaker 5: and then enforcing on them the responsibility that they have

1073
01:01:31,335 --> 01:01:35,815
Speaker 5: as the builder or the developer and go from there. So, yes,

1074
01:01:35,935 --> 01:01:38,735
Speaker 5: you're probably going to end up spending some money unfortunately

1075
01:01:38,895 --> 01:01:39,415
Speaker 5: to do that.

1076
01:01:39,775 --> 01:01:41,935
Speaker 6: Thank you very much for your call. Really appreciate it.

1077
01:01:42,215 --> 01:01:44,855
Speaker 5: You talk said b if you've got a building question,

1078
01:01:45,055 --> 01:01:47,375
Speaker 5: well I'll have a read hot crack at giving you

1079
01:01:47,375 --> 01:01:48,295
Speaker 5: a decent answer on it.

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Speaker 6: Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 16: Richard.

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Speaker 7: Hey you going, Peter, good Thank you. So I'm a

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Speaker 7: painter slash handy man, and I bought a rental property

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Speaker 7: in twenty seventeen, I think, and I didn't get a

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Speaker 7: builder's report because this property was really in real bad condition,

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Speaker 7: and I've spent the last however long since twenty seventeen

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Speaker 7: fixing it. It's a really nice property. It's solid, it's

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01:02:17,615 --> 01:02:19,655
Speaker 7: well painted. Now we just put it in the kitchen

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Speaker 7: and polished the floors and so we just finished. The

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Speaker 7: last bit of renovation was to put a new roof on.

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Speaker 7: And so the roof, I don't know how old it was,

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Speaker 7: thirty five maybe forty years. It was a split split

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01:02:34,735 --> 01:02:40,495
Speaker 7: carrigate line and the roofer pulled the roof off and

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Speaker 7: he's found that there's been a fire in the roof

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Speaker 7: which has affected possibly thirty percent of the roof, and

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Speaker 7: a lot of the trusses are scorched, but they're solid.

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Speaker 7: He jumped up and down on them. Whoever, whoever's remediated

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Speaker 7: it did a decent job. And then they put a

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Speaker 7: new roof on. It used to be a concrete tile

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Speaker 7: roof because it had all the bracing to hold the tile.

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Speaker 7: So we're thinking me and the roof a sort of

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01:03:11,695 --> 01:03:14,695
Speaker 7: had a chat. We're thinking it's possibly thirty five years

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Speaker 7: ago all.

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Speaker 17: More that this roof had the fire right.

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Speaker 7: So it's all solid. But I mean there's there's a

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01:03:22,415 --> 01:03:25,735
Speaker 7: good deal of trusses that would possibly need to be replaced.

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Speaker 5: When you say it's been remediated, what have they done

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01:03:29,695 --> 01:03:32,215
Speaker 5: for the remediation if they fixed new timber to the

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01:03:32,295 --> 01:03:33,815
Speaker 5: old existing timber.

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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, so they obviously removed all the concrete tiles.

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01:03:38,575 --> 01:03:41,215
Speaker 7: They left all the bracing for the concrete tiles there,

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01:03:41,335 --> 01:03:43,655
Speaker 7: and they just put iron down on it. But they

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01:03:43,735 --> 01:03:46,855
Speaker 7: just made sure everything was solid, so there's no there's

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01:03:46,895 --> 01:03:49,855
Speaker 7: no worry about you know, the roof is going to

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01:03:49,895 --> 01:03:52,215
Speaker 7: cave in or anything, and it's nowt It's now got

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01:03:52,215 --> 01:03:55,735
Speaker 7: a new roof of new perlins all the way around,

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01:03:57,655 --> 01:04:00,735
Speaker 7: so it's solid. But I mean, do we leave them there?

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01:04:00,735 --> 01:04:04,175
Speaker 7: Do we replace them? Does it need to be engineered trusses?

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Speaker 7: Does it need to have a consent? I'm not sure

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Speaker 7: how to go about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess at the time, ideally the person would

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01:04:16,815 --> 01:04:21,135
Speaker 5: have got some advice about the remediation, right, so you know,

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Speaker 5: timber can take a certain amount of charring and still

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Speaker 5: remain still retain its structural integrity. Other pieces of timber,

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01:04:31,015 --> 01:04:34,815
Speaker 5: or possibly the fixings have deteriorated, and so the structure

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01:04:34,855 --> 01:04:38,415
Speaker 5: of the roof is then unsound. If someone has done

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01:04:38,455 --> 01:04:43,055
Speaker 5: a fairly methodical repair to it, fixing new timbers to

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01:04:43,175 --> 01:04:45,175
Speaker 5: the side of the old ones and ensuring that all

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01:04:45,175 --> 01:04:48,695
Speaker 5: of the fixings are correct and that you know, connections

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01:04:48,735 --> 01:04:51,415
Speaker 5: between you know where the rafters meet at the ridge,

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01:04:51,495 --> 01:04:54,015
Speaker 5: if they've got the right type of connectors, that they're

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01:04:54,055 --> 01:04:56,535
Speaker 5: fastened down to the top plate, that the bottom cord

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01:04:56,615 --> 01:05:00,255
Speaker 5: is well connected, that any cross braces are suitably connected,

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01:05:00,255 --> 01:05:04,895
Speaker 5: and so on. You know, again it's now a lightweight roof.

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01:05:06,335 --> 01:05:09,135
Speaker 5: If you look at how people built roofs up until

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01:05:09,335 --> 01:05:12,215
Speaker 5: we all kind of moved to trusses, roofs were often

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01:05:12,335 --> 01:05:15,255
Speaker 5: what we call throwing right, so you'd put your top

1138
01:05:15,255 --> 01:05:18,135
Speaker 5: plate up, or you'd stand all your frames and then

1139
01:05:18,215 --> 01:05:20,695
Speaker 5: you'd figure out where your ridge line's going, you'd cut

1140
01:05:20,735 --> 01:05:25,415
Speaker 5: some rafters and nail the whole thing together. And they've

1141
01:05:25,495 --> 01:05:29,895
Speaker 5: lasted for like my place, over one hundred years, right.

1142
01:05:30,295 --> 01:05:35,735
Speaker 5: So I'm not suggesting that they would perform as well

1143
01:05:35,935 --> 01:05:40,535
Speaker 5: under enormous stress as a modern day trust. Probably wouldn't,

1144
01:05:40,655 --> 01:05:45,855
Speaker 5: But if what they've done is reasonable and looks professional,

1145
01:05:45,975 --> 01:05:49,895
Speaker 5: then probably it's going to be okay. I mean ultimately,

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01:05:50,335 --> 01:05:52,055
Speaker 5: what do you think is the issue? Do you think

1147
01:05:52,055 --> 01:05:55,255
Speaker 5: the issue is that it hasn't been done well and

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01:05:55,295 --> 01:05:59,295
Speaker 5: it might collapse, or it has been done well, but

1149
01:05:59,415 --> 01:06:02,775
Speaker 5: people because it's got no documentation, people will be cautious

1150
01:06:02,815 --> 01:06:06,015
Speaker 5: about it. Or are you thinking when I go to

1151
01:06:06,095 --> 01:06:08,175
Speaker 5: sell the properties, someone else is going to see the

1152
01:06:08,175 --> 01:06:11,215
Speaker 5: fire damage and it's going to be an issue when

1153
01:06:11,255 --> 01:06:13,215
Speaker 5: it comes to resale.

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01:06:13,775 --> 01:06:17,015
Speaker 7: Well, it's basically the last one. When I sell it,

1155
01:06:17,015 --> 01:06:19,415
Speaker 7: it's going to be an issue for resale. But also

1156
01:06:21,775 --> 01:06:24,215
Speaker 7: in terms of how the work's been done. It's been

1157
01:06:24,295 --> 01:06:25,895
Speaker 7: done by by the owner.

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01:06:25,895 --> 01:06:26,535
Speaker 10: By the look of.

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01:06:26,495 --> 01:06:29,655
Speaker 7: It, it is sound. It is, it is, it's not

1160
01:06:29,695 --> 01:06:32,535
Speaker 7: going to fall down, but it hasn't been done by

1161
01:06:32,575 --> 01:06:33,015
Speaker 7: a builder.

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01:06:33,135 --> 01:06:33,735
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay.

1163
01:06:34,655 --> 01:06:36,695
Speaker 7: And so the roof is scraped into some of the

1164
01:06:36,775 --> 01:06:39,735
Speaker 7: chowering and he said the charring's only five millions. And

1165
01:06:39,815 --> 01:06:44,815
Speaker 7: so these are the old removed rafters, yes, and so

1166
01:06:44,815 --> 01:06:46,855
Speaker 7: they're sick. They're thicker than a four two. I haven't

1167
01:06:46,855 --> 01:06:48,975
Speaker 7: actually measured them, but they're probably well.

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01:06:49,295 --> 01:06:52,335
Speaker 5: They are genuine four B two, so they would have

1169
01:06:52,455 --> 01:06:54,855
Speaker 5: you know, four to two basically as one hundred by fifty,

1170
01:06:54,935 --> 01:06:57,255
Speaker 5: whereas modern framing is ninety by forty five.

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01:06:57,375 --> 01:07:00,695
Speaker 7: So yeah, so now so yeah, so now they're probably

1172
01:07:00,775 --> 01:07:05,535
Speaker 7: ninety by forty yeah, and so it's not it's not

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01:07:05,615 --> 01:07:08,095
Speaker 7: all of it. They've cut a lot of the burnt

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01:07:08,215 --> 01:07:11,575
Speaker 7: out and joined it with new timbers.

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01:07:11,615 --> 01:07:16,175
Speaker 5: So yes, a lot of that from a structural point

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01:07:16,175 --> 01:07:18,975
Speaker 5: of view, A lot of that will be around the

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01:07:19,135 --> 01:07:21,615
Speaker 5: quality and the detailing of the connections.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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01:07:23,215 --> 01:07:27,495
Speaker 5: So I wonder whether the pathway forward would be to

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01:07:28,015 --> 01:07:32,695
Speaker 5: have probably an engineer come and do an on site

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01:07:32,775 --> 01:07:39,255
Speaker 5: assessment and give you a statement to say it sound right,

1182
01:07:41,215 --> 01:07:45,175
Speaker 5: and that way it gives you some proof. Again, in

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01:07:45,215 --> 01:07:48,175
Speaker 5: a situation where I've had where I'm acting for a

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01:07:48,175 --> 01:07:51,215
Speaker 5: client who's had some work done that council were a

1185
01:07:51,215 --> 01:07:55,975
Speaker 5: bit unsure about. It involved a mezzanine storage area, and

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01:07:56,015 --> 01:07:58,375
Speaker 5: the council went, we don't think that's okay. Now I

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01:07:58,495 --> 01:08:01,495
Speaker 5: went to an engineer who came, looked at it, did

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01:08:01,535 --> 01:08:05,295
Speaker 5: some details, some calculations, and said, in my opinion it's sound.

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01:08:05,415 --> 01:08:07,415
Speaker 5: Now I can offer that back to counsel and go

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01:08:07,895 --> 01:08:11,895
Speaker 5: I've had an independent assessment from a qualified engineer to

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01:08:12,015 --> 01:08:16,015
Speaker 5: say there's no issue with this structure. Therefore, you know,

1192
01:08:16,135 --> 01:08:18,895
Speaker 5: unless you want to prove that the engineer's wrong, you're

1193
01:08:18,935 --> 01:08:19,495
Speaker 5: going to have to.

1194
01:08:19,455 --> 01:08:20,295
Speaker 6: Accept the structure.

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01:08:20,415 --> 01:08:20,615
Speaker 10: Right.

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01:08:21,175 --> 01:08:25,015
Speaker 5: So you could take a similar approach and go I've

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01:08:25,055 --> 01:08:28,895
Speaker 5: had a registered engineer determine it. They might then say,

1198
01:08:28,935 --> 01:08:31,735
Speaker 5: actually most of it's okay, but you need to do X,

1199
01:08:31,815 --> 01:08:34,695
Speaker 5: Y and Z. Some brackets here, some fasteners there, some

1200
01:08:34,735 --> 01:08:38,255
Speaker 5: additional bolts, etc. Go ahead and do that, have them

1201
01:08:38,335 --> 01:08:41,175
Speaker 5: effectively sign it off, and then keep that on the

1202
01:08:41,175 --> 01:08:42,935
Speaker 5: record so that when you do go to sell it,

1203
01:08:43,055 --> 01:08:45,535
Speaker 5: someone pops their head up there and goes, gee, there

1204
01:08:45,575 --> 01:08:48,375
Speaker 5: was a fire, you can go, yes, there is, and

1205
01:08:48,615 --> 01:08:51,175
Speaker 5: it has been remediated, and here's a statement from the

1206
01:08:51,215 --> 01:08:53,775
Speaker 5: engineer to say that it is sound.

1207
01:08:55,615 --> 01:08:58,255
Speaker 7: That's exactly their advice I needed, I think because I

1208
01:08:58,415 --> 01:09:00,455
Speaker 7: was looking at pulling that corner of the roof off

1209
01:09:00,815 --> 01:09:03,135
Speaker 7: and getting new trusts made no no.

1210
01:09:03,455 --> 01:09:03,895
Speaker 6: I think.

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01:09:04,215 --> 01:09:06,935
Speaker 5: You know again, typically these things, you know, you've got

1212
01:09:06,975 --> 01:09:09,135
Speaker 5: to think about how they were built in the first place, right,

1213
01:09:09,575 --> 01:09:11,535
Speaker 5: And it wasn't a truss, and it's been up there

1214
01:09:11,575 --> 01:09:16,135
Speaker 5: for fifty odd years, And if the repair is sound,

1215
01:09:17,495 --> 01:09:20,335
Speaker 5: then why would you go to all of that extent?

1216
01:09:21,175 --> 01:09:23,815
Speaker 5: Can I just be bit cheeky and go. Are you

1217
01:09:23,895 --> 01:09:26,775
Speaker 5: a little bit peeves that you didn't spot it when

1218
01:09:26,815 --> 01:09:27,575
Speaker 5: you bought the house?

1219
01:09:29,255 --> 01:09:32,575
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I mean so I checked out the whole

1220
01:09:32,575 --> 01:09:35,095
Speaker 7: house and I worked out it with solid has come

1221
01:09:35,095 --> 01:09:37,695
Speaker 7: off the foundations in one small corner, which I'm going

1222
01:09:37,775 --> 01:09:41,495
Speaker 7: to get fixed because the foundations are about fifty mil

1223
01:09:41,535 --> 01:09:44,775
Speaker 7: above the driveway and the wall fell off the foundation

1224
01:09:44,895 --> 01:09:48,295
Speaker 7: and dropped fifty mils, so it does have problems. I

1225
01:09:48,335 --> 01:09:51,175
Speaker 7: did put my head in the ceiling hatch to check

1226
01:09:51,215 --> 01:09:53,855
Speaker 7: the insulation and just have a quick look up there

1227
01:09:53,895 --> 01:09:56,775
Speaker 7: and above the hatch there's no fire.

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01:09:56,815 --> 01:10:02,415
Speaker 5: Ah yeah, okay, yep, yeah, understandable. Yeah. I think that's

1229
01:10:02,415 --> 01:10:06,415
Speaker 5: your way forward, and maybe talk to Cause again. You know,

1230
01:10:06,735 --> 01:10:09,215
Speaker 5: it would be good to get a practical sort of

1231
01:10:09,255 --> 01:10:12,735
Speaker 5: engineer to come, so probably someone with a few gray

1232
01:10:12,815 --> 01:10:17,495
Speaker 5: hairs and long in the tooth, and maybe talk to

1233
01:10:17,535 --> 01:10:19,855
Speaker 5: a couple of chippies that you know, they'll all know

1234
01:10:19,975 --> 01:10:22,455
Speaker 5: someone who's got a really practical approach to these things,

1235
01:10:22,455 --> 01:10:26,135
Speaker 5: and that's the sort of person that you're looking for. Awesome, awesome,

1236
01:10:26,175 --> 01:10:27,855
Speaker 5: lovely talking with you all the best.

1237
01:10:28,615 --> 01:10:29,535
Speaker 6: Take care, Sir Richard.

1238
01:10:29,895 --> 01:10:32,615
Speaker 5: Back after the break you and new talk s Hered b.

1239
01:10:33,015 --> 01:10:35,615
Speaker 5: Nikadi Jones is standing by. We're going to take a

1240
01:10:35,655 --> 01:10:40,015
Speaker 5: look at retrofitting double glazing into your existing sashes, so

1241
01:10:40,055 --> 01:10:43,015
Speaker 5: we'll have an in depth look at the whole what

1242
01:10:43,055 --> 01:10:46,455
Speaker 5: types of sashes and what needs to happen. But first up, David,

1243
01:10:46,455 --> 01:10:47,215
Speaker 5: good morning to you.

1244
01:10:48,135 --> 01:10:49,135
Speaker 10: Yeah, hi Peter.

1245
01:10:49,535 --> 01:10:52,175
Speaker 15: Hey, I built a sheher that quite alied shed some

1246
01:10:52,295 --> 01:10:54,495
Speaker 15: time ago and on the side of it has an awning.

1247
01:10:54,535 --> 01:10:57,615
Speaker 15: The awning area is sort of around. The area is

1248
01:10:57,655 --> 01:11:03,535
Speaker 15: about sixteen meters long four point seven meters wide. I'd

1249
01:11:03,575 --> 01:11:05,855
Speaker 15: like to clear that in do I need to do

1250
01:11:05,935 --> 01:11:07,735
Speaker 15: another permit declared.

1251
01:11:07,295 --> 01:11:14,455
Speaker 5: That I suspect, So what's the purpose? What are you

1252
01:11:14,495 --> 01:11:17,455
Speaker 5: going to use that space for workshop?

1253
01:11:18,095 --> 01:11:21,615
Speaker 15: For shed? Workshop area? And I'd like to have a

1254
01:11:21,655 --> 01:11:24,935
Speaker 15: bit more secure. So yeah, sure they're sitting under there

1255
01:11:24,935 --> 01:11:25,855
Speaker 15: and then locked up.

1256
01:11:27,455 --> 01:11:29,695
Speaker 5: Is this sen a rural? I mean sixteen meters long,

1257
01:11:29,775 --> 01:11:33,495
Speaker 5: it's not the sort of thing, okay, And you needed

1258
01:11:33,495 --> 01:11:36,895
Speaker 5: a consent for the shed in the first place.

1259
01:11:37,495 --> 01:11:41,175
Speaker 15: Yes, it's all permitive and done properly. Yes, it's quite

1260
01:11:41,175 --> 01:11:43,735
Speaker 15: a lot of shed sixteen meters by about twelve and

1261
01:11:43,775 --> 01:11:45,615
Speaker 15: a half the shed section.

1262
01:11:45,415 --> 01:11:48,735
Speaker 5: Itself, right, So typically I know rural sheds up to

1263
01:11:48,855 --> 01:11:51,695
Speaker 5: almost one hundred square meters can be built without necessarily

1264
01:11:51,735 --> 01:11:54,695
Speaker 5: requiring a consent. Yours is larger than that, hence the consent.

1265
01:11:55,455 --> 01:11:57,975
Speaker 5: I think my approach would probably be is to dig

1266
01:11:58,015 --> 01:12:01,935
Speaker 5: out the original consent documents and especially the consent number.

1267
01:12:02,375 --> 01:12:04,935
Speaker 5: Go to your local authority, the people that issued the

1268
01:12:04,935 --> 01:12:08,895
Speaker 5: building consent, and you know, maybe go in and sit.

1269
01:12:09,295 --> 01:12:11,815
Speaker 5: They often have a help desk, sit with one of

1270
01:12:11,815 --> 01:12:13,895
Speaker 5: the building inspectors, and go, look, my intention is to

1271
01:12:13,935 --> 01:12:16,895
Speaker 5: close this in. I'm not increasing the footprint. It's not

1272
01:12:16,975 --> 01:12:19,855
Speaker 5: going to impact on neighbors. I'm going to do it

1273
01:12:19,855 --> 01:12:22,255
Speaker 5: in the same way that the building is done. Do

1274
01:12:22,295 --> 01:12:24,735
Speaker 5: I need a consent for that? Or can I get

1275
01:12:24,815 --> 01:12:28,655
Speaker 5: a dispensation from a building consent given that you're not

1276
01:12:28,775 --> 01:12:30,935
Speaker 5: transferring the use. So if you said to me, I

1277
01:12:30,975 --> 01:12:33,255
Speaker 5: want to make it habitable, that would be an issue

1278
01:12:34,935 --> 01:12:37,735
Speaker 5: those sorts of things. So I think the best approach

1279
01:12:37,935 --> 01:12:40,575
Speaker 5: take the consent, go to council, talk to them and

1280
01:12:40,695 --> 01:12:43,735
Speaker 5: ask for a dispensation from a building consent. But get

1281
01:12:43,735 --> 01:12:44,375
Speaker 5: that in writing.

1282
01:12:45,295 --> 01:12:46,895
Speaker 15: Great stuff, all right, sounds good.

1283
01:12:47,455 --> 01:12:48,655
Speaker 6: The very best to you. Take care.

1284
01:12:49,695 --> 01:12:52,975
Speaker 5: Nick Hardy Jones from Metro Performance Glass. After the news,

1285
01:12:53,015 --> 01:12:55,815
Speaker 5: We're going to talk about retrofitting double glazing. If you've

1286
01:12:55,815 --> 01:12:57,575
Speaker 5: got a specific question, we'll not be able to fit

1287
01:12:57,575 --> 01:13:00,055
Speaker 5: that into the conversation as well. So text through nine

1288
01:13:00,175 --> 01:13:02,935
Speaker 5: to nine two. If you've got a specific question around

1289
01:13:02,975 --> 01:13:06,695
Speaker 5: retrofitting double glazing, back in the moment your newk'd be

1290
01:13:06,735 --> 01:13:09,535
Speaker 5: and joining me this morning. A regular contributed to the show,

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Speaker 5: Nick Hardy Jones from Metro Performance Glass.

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Speaker 6: Very good morning, Nick, Good morning Peter.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Now I think that you know the discussion around

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Speaker 5: is double glazing effective, it's pretty much put to bed right.

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Speaker 5: We all know that it's way more effective at either

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Speaker 5: keeping heat in or keeping heat out and helping with acoustics,

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Speaker 5: so you know, and there's lots and lots of data

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Speaker 5: and even that INMBI report recently, fifty two percent of

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Speaker 5: heat loss can be through the single glazing. So putting

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Speaker 5: double glazing is going to address that. Then we get

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Speaker 5: into the thorny issue of if we're going to put

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Speaker 5: it into existing frames, what's the process. So can we

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Speaker 5: just start with timber first because a lot of our

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Speaker 5: houses have timber. There's some real advantages to timber. It's

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Speaker 5: thermally very efficient. But you know, typically if i've got

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Speaker 5: let's say a nineteen sixties house with timber joinery. What's

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Speaker 5: the process to retrofit double glazing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, so you're right there. Still they saw

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Speaker 8: estimate there's nearly a million homes that have got timber

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Speaker 8: joinery in them across New Zealand. So there's still a

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Speaker 8: big portion of our stock, and a big chunk of

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Speaker 8: that is still single glazed, which is really inefficient. Family.

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Speaker 8: So the process to replace those is, first of all,

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Speaker 8: we come along, meet with the homeowner and make an

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Speaker 8: assessment of the state of the joinery. Timber can suffer

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Speaker 8: from quite a bit of rot, but there's ways of

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Speaker 8: managing that which is actually quite simple. So we look

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Speaker 8: at the timber sashes firstly. The timber sash is the

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Speaker 8: is the piece of timber that actually encapsulates the glass.

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Speaker 8: It's within the main window frame. Often that's where there's

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Speaker 8: a lot of damage or rot within the building. So

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Speaker 8: we take a look at those. If those are in

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Speaker 8: sound condition, you know, they've been well maintained and kept

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Speaker 8: painted and all those good things, then we can simply

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Speaker 8: come along and we can remove the sash lay it down.

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Speaker 8: We actually cut into the sash around where the glass

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Speaker 8: sits to make that rebated deeper. We pop the old

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Speaker 8: glass out. We're a site call all of that glass,

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Speaker 8: and then we make in a factory a brand new

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Speaker 8: double glazed and sealed unit. We come to site, we

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Speaker 8: glaze that into the existing sash. We put drainage into

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Speaker 8: all of the sashes. Drainage is absolutely critical within windows

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Speaker 8: systems to provide the longevity to the double glazed unit.

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Speaker 8: To ensure there's drainage in the bottom of these timber sashes,

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Speaker 8: and then we put a bead on over top to

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Speaker 8: encapsulate the glass in place. And then we can work

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Speaker 8: in with you to replace things like hinges, stays and

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Speaker 8: handles to make sure they're all working well and to

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Speaker 8: really ensure that the sash is actually ceiling really well

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Speaker 8: into the frame, so that once you've done all the

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Speaker 8: good work of putting a high performing double glaze unit

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Speaker 8: into your home, you're not just then going to create

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Speaker 8: a lot of So I have a lot of air

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Speaker 8: leaks around where that sash meets the frame. So we

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Speaker 8: can get a number of tricks of the trade about

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Speaker 8: how we deal with those issues as well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because like you say, if you've put the investment

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Speaker 5: into the double glazing and then you've got extensive gaps

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Speaker 5: around it in the ears. Just flowing through there kind

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Speaker 5: of defeats the purpose. So you can you know it's

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Speaker 5: a total system that you're looking at, or you can

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Speaker 5: deal with all of those issues absolutely. Aluminium jowinery is

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Speaker 5: pretty common, right, and certainly most new houses probably have

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Speaker 5: aluminium jewinery. Up to quite recently it was more common

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Speaker 5: to have single glazing than double glazing and that. So

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Speaker 5: let's say you've got a nineteen eighties house and it's

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Speaker 5: got aluminium jewnery. What's stepped me through the process for

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Speaker 5: swapping your single glazing for double glazing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so aluminium is even simpler than even with timber,

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Speaker 8: so a lot lower labor content and doing an aluminium protein.

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Speaker 8: So again what we do is we come along, were

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Speaker 8: removed that aluminium bad that holds the glass into that frame, yes,

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Speaker 8: and we create an install a new bead which is

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Speaker 8: much thicker, it gives much more pocket depth so that

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Speaker 8: it can handle a double glazed unit. So typically, if

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Speaker 8: you're looking at a sash that's aluminium, you can see

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Speaker 8: it's got a big angled profile where it cuts back

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Speaker 8: into the glass. We remove that and go with a

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Speaker 8: much more square face, remove the pane of glass, put

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Speaker 8: in a double glazed unit and put a new bead

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Speaker 8: on and that bead is color matched to the existing

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Speaker 8: aluminium on your home. So no painting, no modification required.

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Speaker 8: It's a finished product once it's glazed.

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Speaker 5: And I know in some instances perhaps the sash won't

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Speaker 5: accommodate a double glaze unit, but you have the option

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Speaker 5: of making a new sash and fitting it into an

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Speaker 5: existing frame.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, and in fact that's the most sort of the

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Speaker 8: common method of doing that, where you get end up

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Speaker 8: with a brand new sash, brand new handles, and brand

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Speaker 8: new stays within your existing aluminium. We do things for

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Speaker 8: sliding doors as well, so you've got big sliding doors,

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Speaker 8: you can absolutely double glaze those as well. And we've

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Speaker 8: got these adaptive frames that sit within your existing and

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Speaker 8: can take a double glaze unit in there as well, because.

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Speaker 5: I guess with a double with a sliding door, there's

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Speaker 5: an issue around Wait, the DG unit is going to

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Speaker 5: be considerably heavier than the existing one, so it puts

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Speaker 5: an impact on the rollers and things like that. But

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Speaker 5: again there's a process for that.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it absolutely is. You can make an assessment of

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Speaker 8: the door to ensure that it can handle that weight.

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Speaker 8: And there are things you can do to upgrade wheels

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Speaker 8: and things and slide of doors to ensure that they

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Speaker 8: can handle that extra weight.

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Speaker 5: Now, typically, I mean the vast majority in New Zealand

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Speaker 5: houses timber aluminium, but there are also some houses that

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Speaker 5: might have old fashioned steel joinery, like really old crittle joinery. Possible,

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Speaker 5: Yes it is.

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Speaker 8: Yes, you can still retrofit steel. Still, Again, you have

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Speaker 8: to be very careful of how you manage removal of

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Speaker 8: steel windows. Asbestos was commonly used in old glazing putties

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Speaker 8: right back through the sixties and seventies particularly, But yes,

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Speaker 8: we have methods to ensure that you can remove that safely.

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Speaker 8: We test it to ensure that we know whether it

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Speaker 8: has asbestos not remove it safely, and then and then

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Speaker 8: go with a similar profile of putting a new steel

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Speaker 8: beat in place to double glaze the windows.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, brilliant.

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Speaker 5: Look, I really appreciate the insights I think, you know,

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Speaker 5: for people listening to a thing, Oh, you know, maybe

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Speaker 5: it's time to do the double glazing thing. What's the process?

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Speaker 8: You know? The best way to proceed is to jump

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Speaker 8: onto the website Retro DG. Take a look there on

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Speaker 8: the Metro Glass website. Contact a team on OH one

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Speaker 8: hundred and six five eight six five eight and talk

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Speaker 8: to your local. They'll come to your home, do an

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Speaker 8: assessment and give you an understanding and what the process is,

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Speaker 8: what your options are, and will give you an idea

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Speaker 8: of what all the costs would be associated as well.

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Speaker 5: Right, I'm going to keep you for thirty seconds if

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Speaker 5: you can answer this question from a caller. An older

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Speaker 5: nineteen eighties wooden front door with a large glass in

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Speaker 5: certain windows either side into timber framing. Can that be

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Speaker 5: double glazed?

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Speaker 8: Yes it can. Yes, you can still as long as

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Speaker 8: it's got a bead on it, this is able.

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Speaker 11: To be.

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Speaker 8: Routed out and have a new double glades installed unit

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Speaker 8: installed in there. We would certainly do an assessment of

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Speaker 8: hinges to make sure they can handle the ways of that,

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Speaker 8: but yes you can double glade at that door.

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Speaker 6: Excellent.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much for your time and your expertise.

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Speaker 5: Really appreciate it. Nick, You have a great day. Take care, Bob.

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Speaker 5: That's Nick from Metro Performance Glass. Find out more have

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Speaker 5: a look online retrodg dot co dot nz. After the

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Speaker 5: break Hunter Moon, who is the Carpentry Apprentice of the Year.

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Speaker 5: We're going to have a quick call in a chat

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Speaker 5: with him. Also, we're going to start early because we've

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Speaker 5: got the rugby at nine o'clock All Blacks v.

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Speaker 6: France.

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Speaker 5: Well right, oh slight change of plan this morning on

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Speaker 5: the show. We are going to jump into the garden

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Speaker 5: a bit earlier because we're out of here a little

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Speaker 5: bit earlier. We'll hand over to our commentary team ahead

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Speaker 5: of the All Blacks v. France match that kicks off

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Speaker 5: at nine o'clock. So Rudd will join us in about

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Speaker 5: ten to fifteen minutes and like I say, we'll hand

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Speaker 5: over the commentary team at about quarter to nine ahead

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Speaker 5: of live commentary at nine o'clock here at Newstalk se

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Speaker 5: B now. Last week week before I popped along to

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Speaker 5: Construct and also that was the venue for the practical

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Speaker 5: examination for the Apprentice of the Year. So this is

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Speaker 5: sponsored by Carters and Master Builders. Apprentices from right around

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Speaker 5: the country are carpentry apprentices are invited to compete in

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Speaker 5: regional finals. The nine outstanding candidates then are invited to

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Speaker 5: Auckland for the national finals. They spent Thursday, I think

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Speaker 5: at about six hours or so making what was quite

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Speaker 5: an elaborate little structure that was part planter box, part shelter.

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Speaker 5: So they had to cut rafters, fixed cladding, build planter boxes,

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Speaker 5: do like a detailed barge board on these little structures.

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Speaker 5: Then the following day they had to sit down and

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Speaker 5: do interviews and talk about their building knowledge before one

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Speaker 5: of them was appointed or anointed as the Carpentry Apprentice

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Speaker 5: of the Year. And it's my great pleasure to welcome

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Speaker 5: to the program Hunter Moon, who is the twenty twenty

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Speaker 5: four Carpentry Apprentice of the Year. Congratulations Hunter, how are you?

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Speaker 10: Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 17: Thanks about yourself?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not too bad.

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Speaker 5: So I had a look at what you guys had

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Speaker 5: to build, you know, with a time constraint, which always

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Speaker 5: adds a bit of pressure and tension, and part of

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Speaker 5: me was thinking, I wonder how I'd go, and I

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Speaker 5: to be fair, it was pretty challenging. So just walk

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Speaker 5: me through it. You do the building on the Thursday,

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Speaker 5: and then what's the interviews that you had to go

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Speaker 5: through on the on the Friday.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, so we all had to sit through an individual

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Speaker 17: interview between sort of forty minutes to an hour throughout

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Speaker 17: the day. We had our own individual time slots, and

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Speaker 17: I gave you, Judge a bit of time to deliberate

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Speaker 17: at the end of the day before we headed straight

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Speaker 17: into the awards at the end of that Friday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So for you, first up, what drew you into carpentry?

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Speaker 5: You know, as a young person, you've got all sorts

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Speaker 5: of options. Why choose carpentry apprenticeship?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I mean I didn't know what I wanted to do

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Speaker 17: in my last year of school. I had plenty of options.

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Speaker 17: I'd actually halfway through the year enrolled and been accepted

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Speaker 17: into a law program at two different universities in New Zealand.

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Speaker 17: But I wasn't one hundred percent convinced that that was

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Speaker 17: what I wanted to do. I think I had a

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Speaker 17: little bit of doubt in my mind, and I'd always

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Speaker 17: had an interest in building stuff. I've always been making

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Speaker 17: things at home. Sure, and Dad came home one day

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Speaker 17: actually and said, Hey, there's a guy that I know

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Speaker 17: that a country ever wants to go building. Give me

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01:24:11,175 --> 01:24:13,575
Speaker 17: a call and we'll get them into an apprenticeship. And

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01:24:14,335 --> 01:24:19,375
Speaker 17: I actually thought, damn it, that's what I want to do. Awesome, Yeah,

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01:24:19,455 --> 01:24:22,495
Speaker 17: I went, I went headfirst into that, and yeah, there

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01:24:22,495 --> 01:24:22,775
Speaker 17: I am.

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01:24:23,055 --> 01:24:26,255
Speaker 5: And so you're working with Foster Construction and Hamilton and

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01:24:26,295 --> 01:24:28,775
Speaker 5: the White cut it. I know they've got some decent

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01:24:28,815 --> 01:24:31,055
Speaker 5: sized projects on if you've been through the main street

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01:24:31,095 --> 01:24:34,735
Speaker 5: of Hamilton, they've got the restoration or rebuild of the theater.

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01:24:34,855 --> 01:24:38,575
Speaker 5: There is it residential that you enjoy? Do you enjoy

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01:24:38,615 --> 01:24:39,335
Speaker 5: the commercial?

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01:24:39,495 --> 01:24:39,575
Speaker 4: Like?

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01:24:39,615 --> 01:24:41,455
Speaker 5: How far along your apprenticeship are you?

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01:24:43,295 --> 01:24:47,175
Speaker 17: I'm coming to the close of my apprenticeship, so hopefully

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01:24:47,215 --> 01:24:51,015
Speaker 17: I'll head into the new years as a recently qualified builder.

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01:24:51,175 --> 01:24:51,495
Speaker 6: Yes.

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01:24:53,295 --> 01:24:59,255
Speaker 17: Yeah, So Foster's specializes in commercial industrial construction, so we

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01:24:59,335 --> 01:25:03,655
Speaker 17: also do have a high density residential that's just started.

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01:25:04,535 --> 01:25:06,575
Speaker 17: But yeah, I've worked for the last but the years

1520
01:25:06,575 --> 01:25:10,935
Speaker 17: we've been focused on commercial construction. Yeah, and that's that's

1521
01:25:10,935 --> 01:25:13,775
Speaker 17: what my passion has evolved into as well. So we

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01:25:13,895 --> 01:25:19,215
Speaker 17: do anything from medical centers and hospitals to our schools

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01:25:19,495 --> 01:25:23,095
Speaker 17: to churches. I've worked at the Hampton Downs Race Course right,

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01:25:24,375 --> 01:25:27,215
Speaker 17: and of course our flagship project at the moment as

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01:25:27,215 --> 01:25:28,295
Speaker 17: the Wyclo Regional Theater.

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01:25:28,615 --> 01:25:31,815
Speaker 5: Yeah, which looks amazing and I you know, pretty challenging projects.

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01:25:31,855 --> 01:25:33,135
Speaker 5: So is that what you're working on.

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01:25:34,295 --> 01:25:37,775
Speaker 17: I'm not actually no, but a significant portion of our staff.

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01:25:38,055 --> 01:25:43,255
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean looking ten years ahead kind of

1530
01:25:43,335 --> 01:25:45,815
Speaker 5: what do you see for yourself in terms of working

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01:25:46,135 --> 01:25:47,055
Speaker 5: in carpentry.

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01:25:49,695 --> 01:25:57,255
Speaker 17: So I've always seen carpentry or construction as a ship,

1533
01:25:57,855 --> 01:26:01,215
Speaker 17: a vehicle, if you will, for me to push my

1534
01:26:01,455 --> 01:26:05,015
Speaker 17: career forward and take on as much as I can.

1535
01:26:05,135 --> 01:26:08,695
Speaker 17: So the first step for me and that is gaining

1536
01:26:08,735 --> 01:26:14,695
Speaker 17: mystification in carpentry, and then hopefully I'll be able to

1537
01:26:14,735 --> 01:26:20,055
Speaker 17: move forward into site management, project management and yes, work

1538
01:26:20,095 --> 01:26:24,975
Speaker 17: my way out to chain get the best cut that

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01:26:25,015 --> 01:26:26,335
Speaker 17: I can on these projects.

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01:26:26,695 --> 01:26:30,095
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, I wish you all the very best.

1541
01:26:30,135 --> 01:26:32,575
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, from what I could see at

1542
01:26:32,615 --> 01:26:36,335
Speaker 5: the practical challenge and then from you know, feedback that

1543
01:26:36,375 --> 01:26:39,695
Speaker 5: I've had from other people that have interviewed you, You've

1544
01:26:39,735 --> 01:26:43,055
Speaker 5: got an outstanding career ahead of you. And I thought, look,

1545
01:26:43,095 --> 01:26:45,055
Speaker 5: all of the candidates were great, and I thought one

1546
01:26:45,055 --> 01:26:48,375
Speaker 5: of the really nice things for the gala night was

1547
01:26:48,415 --> 01:26:51,935
Speaker 5: having people who had either been regional finalists or finalists

1548
01:26:51,935 --> 01:26:56,575
Speaker 5: from previous years come and talk about where they had

1549
01:26:56,575 --> 01:26:59,135
Speaker 5: got to. So, you know, two years, five years on

1550
01:27:00,455 --> 01:27:02,535
Speaker 5: and all of them and I'm sure you would have

1551
01:27:02,535 --> 01:27:03,975
Speaker 5: had the same you know, I looked at all of

1552
01:27:04,015 --> 01:27:06,535
Speaker 5: those people up there, mixture of male and female, well

1553
01:27:07,415 --> 01:27:10,375
Speaker 5: what they had done in their careers and the opportunities

1554
01:27:10,415 --> 01:27:13,255
Speaker 5: that construction had presented to them. And I thought that

1555
01:27:13,375 --> 01:27:15,615
Speaker 5: was a really good touch. And I can imagine you

1556
01:27:15,655 --> 01:27:18,095
Speaker 5: in a couple of years time sitting there at the

1557
01:27:18,215 --> 01:27:20,215
Speaker 5: I don't know, Apprentice of the Year twenty twenty eight,

1558
01:27:20,495 --> 01:27:22,175
Speaker 5: going well, look this is where I'm at now.

1559
01:27:22,895 --> 01:27:24,135
Speaker 6: So good on you.

1560
01:27:24,255 --> 01:27:26,975
Speaker 5: Congratulations. I'm sure you've got a bit of stick for

1561
01:27:27,015 --> 01:27:29,455
Speaker 5: it on Monday when you got back to the site.

1562
01:27:30,135 --> 01:27:32,975
Speaker 5: Builders tend to be pretty good at leveling everybody out,

1563
01:27:33,055 --> 01:27:35,575
Speaker 5: but no one's going to take that away from you.

1564
01:27:35,655 --> 01:27:38,895
Speaker 5: So Apprentice of the Year Hunter Moon, congratulations.

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01:27:38,135 --> 01:27:42,095
Speaker 17: Many speak, thank you, And just while I'm on their,

1566
01:27:42,695 --> 01:27:47,175
Speaker 17: shout out all those other all those other national finalance. Yeah, well,

1567
01:27:47,295 --> 01:27:50,015
Speaker 17: like you say, they are top notch candidates and everybody

1568
01:27:50,855 --> 01:27:54,535
Speaker 17: was just an outstanding person and get to know and

1569
01:27:54,615 --> 01:27:57,735
Speaker 17: an outstanding competitor as well, So big shout out to

1570
01:27:57,775 --> 01:27:59,695
Speaker 17: the master Builders and putting on such a workd event

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01:27:59,775 --> 01:28:00,415
Speaker 17: for us as well.

1572
01:28:00,695 --> 01:28:00,855
Speaker 7: It was.

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01:28:01,015 --> 01:28:02,575
Speaker 5: It was, it was a great event and I was

1574
01:28:02,655 --> 01:28:04,495
Speaker 5: delighted to be able to come along to the gala.

1575
01:28:04,575 --> 01:28:07,015
Speaker 5: So good meeting you and all of very Beast Hunter

1576
01:28:07,175 --> 01:28:14,295
Speaker 5: take care boy z be He's just actually all of

1577
01:28:14,335 --> 01:28:18,415
Speaker 5: the candidates. So there's nine regional finalists competed at the

1578
01:28:18,455 --> 01:28:22,335
Speaker 5: final and they were all outstanding, just fantastic young people.

1579
01:28:23,215 --> 01:28:24,935
Speaker 5: It was a great thing to be part of. So

1580
01:28:25,175 --> 01:28:27,615
Speaker 5: if you've got a young person who's involved in carpentry,

1581
01:28:27,655 --> 01:28:31,695
Speaker 5: maybe doing an apprenticeship, have a look at that Apprentice

1582
01:28:31,735 --> 01:28:33,975
Speaker 5: of the Year for next year. It's a great challenge

1583
01:28:33,975 --> 01:28:36,335
Speaker 5: for them and that's something to hang.

1584
01:28:36,255 --> 01:28:37,255
Speaker 6: On to for a long time.

1585
01:28:37,815 --> 01:28:41,735
Speaker 5: Just before we jump into the garden, a quick shout

1586
01:28:41,735 --> 01:28:44,695
Speaker 5: out to someone who helped me out just recently as well.

1587
01:28:44,735 --> 01:28:47,695
Speaker 5: It was one of those classic project comes up at

1588
01:28:47,695 --> 01:28:51,655
Speaker 5: the last minute. It was a changeover for a rental property.

1589
01:28:51,815 --> 01:28:53,535
Speaker 5: I went in, had a look at a few jobs

1590
01:28:53,575 --> 01:28:55,495
Speaker 5: that I needed to get done, looked at the blinds

1591
01:28:55,535 --> 01:28:58,535
Speaker 5: and went, oh shivers, I really need to get those

1592
01:28:58,575 --> 01:29:01,895
Speaker 5: sorted out as well, just a regular maintenance sort of thing. So,

1593
01:29:02,335 --> 01:29:03,975
Speaker 5: as it turned out, a guy that I worked with

1594
01:29:04,055 --> 01:29:07,335
Speaker 5: many many years ago we were chippying together, Steve runs

1595
01:29:07,375 --> 01:29:12,095
Speaker 5: blink and clean blinds in Auckland, Northland South Auckland as well,

1596
01:29:12,415 --> 01:29:14,735
Speaker 5: and I rang him and as it happened. It was

1597
01:29:14,775 --> 01:29:17,135
Speaker 5: just one of those fortuitous days. Hey, look we've had

1598
01:29:17,135 --> 01:29:19,695
Speaker 5: a cancelation. I can get a crew there. This afternoon.

1599
01:29:20,135 --> 01:29:22,255
Speaker 5: They rocked up, took all the blinds down. They got

1600
01:29:22,295 --> 01:29:24,975
Speaker 5: mobile so their vans are kitted out for all of this.

1601
01:29:25,455 --> 01:29:28,535
Speaker 5: Cleaned all the blinds, dried them all, steam cleaned them,

1602
01:29:28,975 --> 01:29:31,295
Speaker 5: put them all back up, made sure that they all worked.

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01:29:31,335 --> 01:29:35,855
Speaker 5: Everything looked fresh and clean. So if you need blind cleaning,

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01:29:36,135 --> 01:29:41,695
Speaker 5: I can certainly recommend Blink and Clean so Blinkinclean dot

1605
01:29:41,735 --> 01:29:45,535
Speaker 5: co dot NZ or eight hundred two five four six

1606
01:29:45,895 --> 01:29:49,215
Speaker 5: five six. Took to Steve and the crew and they'll,

1607
01:29:49,335 --> 01:29:51,175
Speaker 5: well hope they'll sort you out as well as they

1608
01:29:51,255 --> 01:29:53,655
Speaker 5: sorted me out. So they were outstanding. So Blink and

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01:29:53,695 --> 01:29:56,735
Speaker 5: Clean Blinds. Great guys, righty oh and also just a

1610
01:29:56,815 --> 01:29:58,895
Speaker 5: heads up, I did the I was part of the

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01:29:59,135 --> 01:30:02,415
Speaker 5: team helping out at the Saint Leo's Fair. Hi Paul

1612
01:30:02,455 --> 01:30:06,535
Speaker 5: helped us out resource recovery Devenport. They were fantastic and

1613
01:30:06,855 --> 01:30:09,375
Speaker 5: my mates at Greenrilla as well for looking after the

1614
01:30:09,415 --> 01:30:11,855
Speaker 5: food scrap. So thank you to those people that helped

1615
01:30:11,855 --> 01:30:15,695
Speaker 5: me out at that fair. Radio. Let's jump into the garden.

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01:30:15,735 --> 01:30:18,615
Speaker 5: We'll take a short break, rid Climb passed on the move,

1617
01:30:18,655 --> 01:30:21,495
Speaker 5: but we've tracked them down to Tolonga to the Bay

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01:30:21,535 --> 01:30:23,975
Speaker 5: of Plenty and we will be talking with Rudd straight

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01:30:23,975 --> 01:30:24,575
Speaker 5: after the break.

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01:30:28,135 --> 01:30:30,935
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