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Speaker 2: Hello, are you going to New Zealanders? It is Matt

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Speaker 2: and Tyler Full Show Podcast number two four five four

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Speaker 2: Tuesday the eighteenth of November twenty twenty five. I believe

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Speaker 2: it's still twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: It is, yep, correct, Yeah, it was it really.

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Speaker 2: I enjoyed today's show. Actually I was annoyed because we

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Speaker 2: ended up talking about ubers for too long and then

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Speaker 2: we finally got onto the bit I was really interested in,

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Speaker 2: was what she should keeping you fridge, and then went off. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we had thousands of calls backed.

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Speaker 3: Up that is what New Zealanders wanted to talk about.

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Speaker 3: So it was just a cheeky half hour on a

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Speaker 3: mat that man, it was good and controversial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely controversial, pustle and budgeting tips as well.

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Speaker 1: Stories, the league issues, the big trends and everything in between.

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Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk, said B.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. Yeah, welcome and to Tuesday show. It

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Speaker 3: is really good to have your company as always. Thank

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Speaker 3: you very much for listening. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Get a man, get a Tyler, get everyone. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: tuning in your grant New Zealanders. You know how everyone's watching.

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Speaker 2: You know there's always a new Netflix show, or there's

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Speaker 2: a new Amazon Prime show show. What have you got

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Speaker 2: to keep it?

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Speaker 1: Yea?

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Speaker 2: I am currently watching a show that's so old and

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Speaker 2: crusty that it would probably discuss people. Okay, it's here,

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Speaker 2: but it's so freaking good and it's not available anywhere

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand at all.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's Agatha Christie's Poirot.

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Speaker 3: It is old school mate. My mum was watching that

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Speaker 3: not too long ago.

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Speaker 2: Cool investigating crimes in the nineteen thirties. It's so good.

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Speaker 2: It started in nineteen eighty nine, but it's not available

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Speaker 2: on any streaming platform. I don't know why how I

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Speaker 2: came across it. It just popped up and I watched

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Speaker 2: the episode because I like a good murder mystery and

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Speaker 2: it's just so incredibly well shot. But I was looking

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Speaker 2: for how you could watch it. I don't know where

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Speaker 2: I saw an episode looking able to watch it. And

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Speaker 2: are you familiar with the Internet Archive. Yes, the Internet

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Speaker 2: Archive is an amazing thing. It's so good as a nonprofit. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and they just put up everything.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So you can go to the Internet Archive and you

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Speaker 2: can just watch the Pooh series.

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Speaker 3: Is there how you did it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's thirteen seasons of it up there.

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Speaker 3: I've just even looked out because I can't think of

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Speaker 3: the name of the actor. But is it the same

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Speaker 3: It's the same guy all through the seasons. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: really age.

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Speaker 2: David Sishee or something.

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Speaker 3: He's so good in it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's he's a great ploo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It is so good that show, Like, I mean, just

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Speaker 2: you see the quality of how every shot is so

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Speaker 2: beautifully constructed, in the way they they tell the mysteries

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Speaker 2: and and and the and the gags in it. It's good.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 3: There's something about a murder mystery. Yeah, the mystery is good.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's some there's some bomb murder mysteries out here,

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Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But Edgitha Christie.

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Speaker 2: Blow off your Netflix subscription. It just blasts through thirteen

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Speaker 2: seasons of Bloody Egga for Christie's if Girl Bauer.

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Speaker 3: Through the Internet archives.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be too boring for a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: It might be too boring.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's in my doesn't seem like

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Speaker 3: my sort of thing, mate, But well, I tried.

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Speaker 2: To make my kids watch it with me and they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mum used to watch it when I was ten

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Speaker 3: years old. So I've seen a bit of it, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's my thing.

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Speaker 2: Actually, it is the kind of thing my dad would

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Speaker 3: Now A good tip there, though.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm delirious from running that marathon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like it. Yeah, I enjoy it though. Right

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Speaker 3: on to today's show after three o'clock, looking forward to

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Speaker 3: this discussion each And it was an article that you spotted, Matt,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's about what you shouldn't put in your fridge,

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Speaker 2: and this is a key issue. But it says don't

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Speaker 2: put potatoes in your fridge. Basically everything I put in

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Speaker 2: I want to push back on this. Actually it says,

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Speaker 2: don't put potatoes in your fridge and put in in

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Speaker 2: your fridge. What are you talking about? Don't put bread

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Speaker 3: I'd push back on that one.

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Speaker 2: Don't put ketchup in your fridge.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, that's crazy. If you open the bottle, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just get the ketch up last forever? Right, doesn't it?

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Speaker 2: Isn't it so salty?

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Speaker 2: Or go forever? But it says keep pit food in

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Speaker 3: Or dry pit food would be crazy. You can't keep that?

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Speaker 3: What pit food?

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Speaker 2: And you fred keep dry pit food in your fridge.

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Speaker 3: No, these people have lost their mind.

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Speaker 2: Are they trolling us?

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Speaker 6: So?

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Speaker 3: They sounds like it's that is crazy talk.

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Speaker 2: Is this engagement farming?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Never put bananas in the fridge, it says.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could deal with that.

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Speaker 2: Never put coffee in the fridge. It says, anyway, what

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Speaker 3: The eggs is a big one. I know, you see it.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get into this after three. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know about the eggs in the fridge, go to

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Speaker 3: keep eggs in the fridge. All right, We're going to

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Speaker 2: Butter not in the fridge.

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Speaker 3: That is controversial. That is after three o'clock. After two

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine in New Zealand without Uber in it anymore,

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Speaker 3: They had to.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think it would have huge repercussions.

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Speaker 2: I brought up my kids with Uber just by sending

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Speaker 2: I know there's bigger issues around employment and you know

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Speaker 2: the minimum wage. But selfishly, selfishly, I would not want

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Speaker 3: A lot of people will be with you on that,

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Speaker 3: but we'll open up the fold lines on that one

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Speaker 3: after two o'clock because right now, let's have a chat

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Speaker 3: about household budgets. So an article out today New Zealand

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Speaker 3: households with incomes over two hundred thousand dollars are now

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Speaker 3: of living crisis continues to buy it. So David Very,

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Speaker 3: he's a financial mentor at North Harbor Budgeting. We'll have

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Speaker 3: but he says, I've got clients who have household and

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Speaker 3: but they are making, he says, some fundamental mistakes when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're earning over two hundred thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: then you need to go. Are you struggling or you

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Speaker 2: over extended? Because surely you can make it work for

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Speaker 2: two hundred k. You know where does all that money go?

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Speaker 2: Is it leveraged? Have you overleveraged? Have you brought two

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Speaker 2: flasher house or too flasher car? Have you got too

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Speaker 2: many subscriptions? Are you ordering in food every night?

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Speaker 2: Are you going out too often? What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Because you can you can make it work. You know

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Speaker 2: it may not be as good it has been at

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Speaker 2: for people on two hundred k that are struggling? Oh,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. One piece of advice that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is such a good one. And on their subscriptions.

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Speaker 3: As I said to you when we're reprooping the show,

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Speaker 3: just don't know all the subscription. I've got the I've

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Speaker 2: So this Texas says, Yes, we canceled credit card and

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Speaker 2: got a new one. I called it the Great Purge.

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Speaker 2: Now one of them pays for Disney with their own money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Oh. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the

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Speaker 3: number to call. What advice would you have for people

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Speaker 3: you were feeling the crunch? Really keen to hear from you.

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Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two is that text number. It is

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Speaker 3: thirteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons us talks.

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Speaker 3: That'd be very good afternoon, Sewett is sixteen pass one.

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Speaker 3: So we are discussing an article in the Herald today

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Speaker 3: our New Zealand households with incomes over two hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: people continue to feel financial strain. On the line right

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Speaker 3: now is David Very. He's a financial mentor at North

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Speaker 3: Harbor Budgeting and he joins us. Now, David, how are you?

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Speaker 7: I'm very good, thank you.

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Speaker 2: So with these people that are earning two hundred thousand

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Speaker 2: the cost of living crisis or is that bad habits

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Speaker 2: that are the problems there?

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Speaker 7: Well, that's I mean, particularly those with over two hundred thousand,

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Speaker 7: that was that's too much mortgage debt, right, Okay. So

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Speaker 7: the clients that I've got that have that have had

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Speaker 7: a couple that have households over two hundred thousand, they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, David, very interesting to chat with you, and thank

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Speaker 2: This is not a criticism of you, but you look

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Speaker 3: Z B afternoon twenty seven to one. So in our

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Speaker 2: Money saving tap only pay for subscriptions when you actually

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Speaker 2: Why can't we have a nice house and car and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can have everything you want. You're just

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Very good mates, And so what

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Speaker 8: Plenty of money?

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Speaker 10: to a regional New Zealand and we bought a house.

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Speaker 10: We don't have a big mortgage and we're comfortable. We

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Speaker 10: don't go without, but we definitely don't hope for extend.

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Speaker 10: I think that's got to be the bottom of it, right,

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Speaker 10: you're earning two hundred car and you're not making it

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Speaker 10: into megas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I can't get a head round that.

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Speaker 2: For some reason this chat, Burris has really focused in

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Speaker 2: on the subscriptions to Netflix and the like, do you

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Speaker 2: have all that stuff? Do you have? Do you have luxuries?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I don't class him as a luxury a minute. That

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Speaker 10: we've got Netflix, we've got Spotify, we've got Sky.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So your truck is that you moved somewhere rural boris.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 8: We were never going to be able.

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Speaker 10: To afford a mortgage in the era we've wanted in

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Speaker 10: Wellington and we needed to get out and we made.

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Speaker 8: That work for us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're in two hundred thousand dollars, then you've

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Speaker 2: got a one point five million dollar mortgage. As David

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Speaker 2: Berry was talking about some of the people coming to them,

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Speaker 2: then you might have bought two flash hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: How much money you've got?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah and Boris Yeah, so for you you've got

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Speaker 3: so it's you and is it a partner wife? And

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Speaker 3: then you've got a couple of kids, is that right?

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Speaker 8: Both under five? So that's not a cheap exercise. But hey,

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Speaker 8: I mean yeah, kids don't go without.

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Speaker 3: How many how many times a week do you have

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Speaker 3: takeaways or uba?

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Speaker 8: I would say maybe once a week, definitely once a fortnite.

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Speaker 8: We quite enjoyed cooking. We enjoyed putting our shopping list

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Speaker 8: to get and just getting off with it.

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Speaker 2: So you're living the dream and one one sixty five.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a good life, Boris. It sounds like

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Speaker 3: you're doing everything you need to do in life.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like paradise.

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Speaker 8: We're pretty we're pretty happy. Going to get the missage

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Speaker 8: to vote for national not labor.

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Speaker 2: What do you think that you're missing out on in life.

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Speaker 2: Is there is there any big ticket thing that you

484
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Speaker 2: would want in the in the perfect world.

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Speaker 8: Oh maybe a better front lawn, a.

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Speaker 2: Better front lawn. Yeah, Hey, I'm working on a better

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Speaker 2: front lawn at the moment myself. Actually, I just I've

488
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Speaker 2: not go into it, but I've just retailled my lawn.

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Speaker 2: I've got a plan to make the greatest front lawn

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Speaker 2: of all the back lawn of all time.

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Speaker 3: And appreciate a good lawn. Yeah, they never had one,

492
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Speaker 3: but you know when I see them. But yeah, you

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Speaker 3: put a lot of money into that, Boris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, great you thanks so much for your call,

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Speaker 2: Boris and all the best out there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess there's no So these people that

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Speaker 2: are going for budget health, you know, budgeting help that

499
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Speaker 2: are over two hundred thousand dollars, right, you know, they've

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Speaker 2: ended up in the position and they've ended up and

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Speaker 2: at least they're going to help for help to sort

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Speaker 2: it out.

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Speaker 12: Right.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, you know, as they've very said, you you know,

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Speaker 2: people take risks in life, and people get over leverage

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Speaker 2: or they try different things, yep, and then they need

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Speaker 2: to budget and work it out and strive through that.

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Speaker 3: But nothing wrong with it, right, Well, there'd be a

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Speaker 3: lot of pride if you're bringing in two hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars as a household. I imagine there is that pride

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Speaker 3: element of I don't want to go and ask for

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Speaker 3: help from a budgeting service. So yeah, on that account,

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Speaker 3: it's good that they're asking for help. I just wonder

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Speaker 3: i'd forgot to ask Boris. But you know, the budgeting

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Speaker 3: skills we have as a country. Clearly some of it

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Speaker 3: is common sense, but you know, have we lost the

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Speaker 3: art of budgeting? I think it's fair to say I've

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Speaker 3: heard enough about your upbringing in Duneda. It sounded like

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Speaker 3: your dad and mum were very very heavy budgets. Yes,

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Speaker 3: my mum and dad probably to a lesser extent actually,

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Speaker 3: but they were pretty good. They were pretty s heavy

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Speaker 3: with their money. If you know, if we wanted a

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Speaker 3: few luxuries or new toys or new whatever, if we

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Speaker 3: didn't have the money there, it was a hard no,

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Speaker 3: No have the money for that, Tyler. You're just going

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Speaker 3: to have to make do with what you've got.

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Speaker 2: I run a yes healthfold. It's a very yes focused

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Speaker 2: situation in my life. Shall we get that.

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Speaker 3: Yes, spright around like a fire home, do that?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, what do you want? It's bad. I'm not

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Speaker 2: happy with that. Sometimes I've disgusted with the amount of

532
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Speaker 2: money I spend on stupid things. So even though I'm

533
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Speaker 2: not in any kind of, you know, financial peril, thankfully,

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Speaker 2: I still am disgusted and I would like to get

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Speaker 2: my budget in line because it's something gross about just

536
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Speaker 2: spending money that you don't need to spend, just because

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Speaker 2: it's kind of laziness. You kind of haven't made the decison.

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Speaker 2: It's easier just to spend money sometimes than it is

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Speaker 2: to think it through, you know, just leave that something,

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Speaker 2: some subscription going on the off chance you might need

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Speaker 2: it in two months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 3: to call. I'd love to hear your tips for those

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Speaker 3: out there who are struggling on two hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: What are your tips to try and cut some of

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Speaker 3: the fat?

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Speaker 2: Guys, anyone paying for Netflix subscription and twenty twenty five

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Speaker 2: as a tit may as well earn your money.

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Speaker 1: Cheers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good Cory to burn their money.

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Speaker 6: You talk savvy headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's no

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Speaker 6: Transport Minister Chris Bishop reallocating cying or a still water

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Speaker 6: funding to a bridge project in his electorate doesn't pass

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Speaker 6: the sniff test. About twelve hundred and New Zealand cabin

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Speaker 6: crew members have voted to strike, saying their push for

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Speaker 6: College of GP says it's likely there are only trace

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Speaker 6: a cliff on farmland at Mortal Pippi. Nearly one in

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Speaker 6: five living in New Zealand identify as Mary, about eighteen

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Speaker 6: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lean, and we are talking

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Speaker 3: about budgeting. This is on the news of financial advisors

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Speaker 3: now helping out our households with income of two hundred

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, which for many people would be a lot

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Speaker 3: of money. So if you've got tips for saving a

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Speaker 3: bit of money in the budget, oh, eight hundred eighty

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Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to.

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Speaker 2: Call the sexas is interesting. You're talking about people who

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Speaker 2: earn two hundred thousand to a majority of people. That's

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Speaker 2: rich boys. Why don't you focus on less fortunate people

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Speaker 2: earning less than fifty thousand? Honestly, people on two thousand

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Speaker 2: k I don't give a crap. Who cares, Mark. That's

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Speaker 2: why we're talking about it because it's interesting because people

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Speaker 2: on two hundred thousand dollars are going and seeking budgeting health.

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Speaker 2: It's the news story that we're talking about because it

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Speaker 2: is interesting. Yeah, people on fifty thousand dollars a year

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Speaker 2: seeking budgeting help isn't quite as interesting because you'd expect

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Speaker 2: them to be having trouble.

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Speaker 3: It's tough on fifty thousand dollars A Yeah, no doubt

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, high team take home payoffter tax for a one

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Speaker 2: hundred and sixty five K houthhold is one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty K a year, and for a two hundred K

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Speaker 2: household it's one hundred and forty three K. Yeah, two

596
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Speaker 2: hundred K sounds like a large sum, but we don't

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Speaker 2: think about the tax implications. Yeah, all right, if you're

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Speaker 2: bringing two hundred k, you're getting taxed up the wah zoo.

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Speaker 3: You certainly are in this country.

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Speaker 2: Ben, Welcome to the show. How are you?

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Speaker 13: How's there going?

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Speaker 14: I'm good?

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Speaker 15: Thanks?

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Speaker 16: How are you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Very well. So you've got some good advice on what

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Speaker 3: worked for you. It was it called bucket budgeting.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, that's sort of what I termed it. I mean,

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Speaker 13: it was was taught to me by a colleague a

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Speaker 13: little while ago when I was quite young, and I'm

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Speaker 13: still quite young. It's worked for me and I earned

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Speaker 13: nothing there the two hundred k, but it can easily

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Speaker 13: be scaled up. And yeah, I think it's it's a

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Speaker 13: really useful built up I can share How does the work?

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Speaker 2: How does the work?

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Speaker 17: Ben?

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Speaker 12: Yes?

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Speaker 13: And again not financial advice because I'm not qualified to

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Speaker 13: say any of that. But yeah, So when you get

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Speaker 13: your your paycheck, basically you allocate sort of divvy out

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Speaker 13: into different needs, into different buckets. So you can set

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Speaker 13: up different suffix accounts in your bank account and say

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Speaker 13: this is for house matters, this is for your car.

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Speaker 13: For example. You know of car could be your your

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Speaker 13: insurance plan for that the year ahead. You know, once

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Speaker 13: you pay your insurance, divvy out a little bit might

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Speaker 13: be ten dollars a paycheck or whatever, whatever the amount

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Speaker 13: is for your insurance, you know, put that aside each

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Speaker 13: week so that when you come to your insurance you've

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Speaker 13: you've you've got that payment might there to pay for it.

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Speaker 13: And and and you know that can be applied to

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Speaker 13: many different areas of life, including if you need to

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Speaker 13: play catch up on your your your your savings, if

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Speaker 13: you have debt, you can you know, put aside each

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Speaker 13: time for that debt.

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Speaker 3: I suppose it's an easy way to track it, isn't it, Ben.

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Speaker 3: That's effectively what you're doing, right. You're tracking everything that's

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Speaker 3: going in and out.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely absolutely, And you know I only I use my

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Speaker 13: debit card most of the time. I only just recently

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Speaker 13: got a credit card, but you know, you just transfer

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Speaker 13: into that from your each DVL savings, so you are

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Speaker 13: basically checking your your bank statement. Often you're not having

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Speaker 13: a little secret you know, subscriptions going through without your

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Speaker 13: noticing and you're just saying, hey, you know, I just

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Speaker 13: went out to the restaurant. I'll pay for that from

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Speaker 13: a You can have a you know, a free allowance

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Speaker 13: to get you know, a guilt free allowance account to

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Speaker 13: go to special things like that.

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Speaker 2: And since it's kind of have you read that book

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Speaker 2: Atomic Habits by James Clear.

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Speaker 13: I've heard of it. I haven't got to read it yet,

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Speaker 13: but it's on my bucket list.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like you've got there on your own. But

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Speaker 2: because he talks a lot about setting yourself up for

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Speaker 2: success in that way so you don't have to use willpower,

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Speaker 2: So setting up with setting up all the direct kurds

658
00:28:06,173 --> 00:28:10,413
Speaker 2: and you know, putting automating every thing. Yeah, like you're

659
00:28:10,413 --> 00:28:13,093
Speaker 2: talking about Ben and then it's just happening. It's just happening.

660
00:28:13,413 --> 00:28:15,373
Speaker 2: And yeah, as you say, you've got your little account

661
00:28:15,373 --> 00:28:18,773
Speaker 2: that you can go and spend for discretionary spending, going

662
00:28:18,773 --> 00:28:21,293
Speaker 2: out for dinner or whatever, and you know, if there's

663
00:28:21,293 --> 00:28:22,453
Speaker 2: no money in it and you don't go out for.

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Speaker 13: Dinner, absolutely exactly, that's how it is, and that's I mean,

665
00:28:26,453 --> 00:28:28,933
Speaker 13: I'm sure my colleagues read the book, so but yeah,

666
00:28:28,973 --> 00:28:31,653
Speaker 13: I mean, yeah, it's a great way to stay on

667
00:28:31,693 --> 00:28:33,893
Speaker 13: top of it. It's guilt free, and I mean if

668
00:28:33,893 --> 00:28:36,773
Speaker 13: you use stuff like XL just outside that, it's just

669
00:28:37,053 --> 00:28:39,853
Speaker 13: you know, you can get creative of it and really

670
00:28:39,893 --> 00:28:42,973
Speaker 13: plan ahead savings. And again, if I can do that

671
00:28:43,053 --> 00:28:45,453
Speaker 13: on way less than two hundred K, I'm sure they

672
00:28:45,453 --> 00:28:47,293
Speaker 13: can scale up. Obviously, you know, if you've already got

673
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:49,373
Speaker 13: yourself in there, it will be harder. But I mean

674
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Speaker 13: I've had friends. I think it's an adaptation from what

675
00:28:52,773 --> 00:28:55,733
Speaker 13: Christians and poverty do. They do a similar budgeting course,

676
00:28:57,213 --> 00:28:59,533
Speaker 13: and yeah, people get through it, and yeah, it's just

677
00:28:59,613 --> 00:29:02,453
Speaker 13: helping wise and especially with those discretionary fronts.

678
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good on you. Ben. The six is Matt

679
00:29:04,853 --> 00:29:07,013
Speaker 2: and Tyler, my wife and myself in a good portion

680
00:29:07,173 --> 00:29:10,053
Speaker 2: over two hundred k through both working very hard. We

681
00:29:10,093 --> 00:29:13,493
Speaker 2: went to Financial Advisor to ensure we went blowing any away.

682
00:29:13,813 --> 00:29:17,373
Speaker 2: Got recommended Pocketsmith budgeting software amazing for US small Kiwi

683
00:29:17,453 --> 00:29:20,533
Speaker 2: company I'm not affiliated at all, but was amazed to

684
00:29:20,573 --> 00:29:21,813
Speaker 2: see where our money goes.

685
00:29:21,973 --> 00:29:24,973
Speaker 3: Pocket Smith Pocketsmith. Yeah, that is a good tip. Oh

686
00:29:24,973 --> 00:29:27,813
Speaker 3: eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

687
00:29:28,053 --> 00:29:29,893
Speaker 3: I think part of it. I don't know if this

688
00:29:29,973 --> 00:29:31,413
Speaker 3: is a keiw We thing, no issue. I know it's

689
00:29:31,453 --> 00:29:33,373
Speaker 3: around the world. But they're keeping up with the Joneses

690
00:29:33,453 --> 00:29:35,973
Speaker 3: mentality and it's freaking hard. I mean, if you're not

691
00:29:35,973 --> 00:29:39,293
Speaker 3: bringing enough money but your friends are bringing in a

692
00:29:39,333 --> 00:29:40,973
Speaker 3: bit more than yours and they say, hey, do you

693
00:29:40,973 --> 00:29:42,693
Speaker 3: want to go out for dinner or come round to

694
00:29:42,773 --> 00:29:45,013
Speaker 3: ours and you know, bring a couple of bottle of

695
00:29:45,053 --> 00:29:48,893
Speaker 3: wine or whatever. It's so hard to then say look,

696
00:29:48,893 --> 00:29:51,293
Speaker 3: I'm really sorry, I can't and to be truth or

697
00:29:51,293 --> 00:29:53,453
Speaker 3: you're gonna be honest. We just can't afford there right now.

698
00:29:53,533 --> 00:29:55,053
Speaker 3: That is incredibly hard for a lot of people.

699
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Speaker 2: I've got a couple of friends, Tyler and I'll talk

700
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Speaker 2: around the issue. So I won't describe who they are

701
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:01,133
Speaker 2: because in case they're listening now, they wouldn't listen to me.

702
00:30:01,693 --> 00:30:04,053
Speaker 2: They he good enough of me in life. No, but

703
00:30:04,173 --> 00:30:06,853
Speaker 2: they there's there's a couple of friends and they always

704
00:30:06,853 --> 00:30:11,213
Speaker 2: go on holidays together. They travel overseas together. These two families. Yes,

705
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:14,613
Speaker 2: and one family does really well and the other family

706
00:30:14,693 --> 00:30:17,453
Speaker 2: does quite well. But there's a lot of pressure for

707
00:30:17,533 --> 00:30:20,573
Speaker 2: them to go on these new trips that they're constantly

708
00:30:20,653 --> 00:30:22,813
Speaker 2: getting the email saying we've booked this, this is a

709
00:30:22,813 --> 00:30:26,093
Speaker 2: great trip we're going on. And this other family, when

710
00:30:26,653 --> 00:30:28,813
Speaker 2: I talk to him on his own, he's like, we're

711
00:30:28,853 --> 00:30:31,133
Speaker 2: borrowing so much money to go on these trips with

712
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Speaker 2: their family. They just keep coming through and they just

713
00:30:33,253 --> 00:30:37,973
Speaker 2: keep going flash trips, and I'm just thinking, well, there's

714
00:30:37,973 --> 00:30:39,733
Speaker 2: no shame in not being able to afford a holiday.

715
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the stress on those people because.

716
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that the couple that are that are

717
00:30:45,293 --> 00:30:49,093
Speaker 2: quite wealthy, they're probably like they'd probably be mortified if

718
00:30:49,093 --> 00:30:51,133
Speaker 2: they realized that they were putting that pressure on them

719
00:30:51,173 --> 00:30:53,453
Speaker 2: by constantly booking these holidays. They just don't know because

720
00:30:53,453 --> 00:30:55,973
Speaker 2: there's other people keep throwing that holiday on the mortgages

721
00:30:56,653 --> 00:31:00,013
Speaker 2: and just going for the five star holidays because they're

722
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Speaker 2: incredibly rich. Friendski Bog, just.

723
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Speaker 3: Be honest and say you can't go to why this year?

724
00:31:05,053 --> 00:31:09,333
Speaker 2: There's no shame, and there's more shame and getting yourself

725
00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:11,453
Speaker 2: in trouble trying to buy stuff you can't afford, then

726
00:31:11,493 --> 00:31:14,653
Speaker 2: there is not and then just admitting you can't afford

727
00:31:14,693 --> 00:31:15,733
Speaker 2: something and going okay't afford it.

728
00:31:15,853 --> 00:31:18,613
Speaker 3: Yep, it's got it. Yeah. A couple of texts before

729
00:31:18,653 --> 00:31:19,613
Speaker 3: we get to play some messages.

730
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Speaker 2: Hey are lads, I'm definitely overextended. My mortgage went up

731
00:31:22,653 --> 00:31:24,573
Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty dollars per week in insurance up

732
00:31:24,653 --> 00:31:28,013
Speaker 2: sixty percent. Weekly rates increase as well on top of that,

733
00:31:28,413 --> 00:31:31,893
Speaker 2: as well as huge groceries increase, hardly left with much

734
00:31:32,013 --> 00:31:34,493
Speaker 2: end of the week, and I'm on approximately two hundred

735
00:31:34,573 --> 00:31:37,133
Speaker 2: k in fact, more than that own my own business

736
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:39,653
Speaker 2: and the construction industry which has dropped forty percent. Living

737
00:31:39,693 --> 00:31:42,213
Speaker 2: in Wellington, so very expensive beers and food in the

738
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Speaker 2: fridge not ideal. Tough, but I'm still happy. Cheers Dan,

739
00:31:45,933 --> 00:31:46,653
Speaker 2: what a great text.

740
00:31:46,813 --> 00:31:48,373
Speaker 3: It was a good text, had a good twist at

741
00:31:48,373 --> 00:31:48,653
Speaker 3: the end.

742
00:31:48,773 --> 00:31:49,933
Speaker 2: Oh it's tough, but I'm still happy.

743
00:31:50,013 --> 00:31:51,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, lover Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty

744
00:31:51,973 --> 00:31:53,533
Speaker 3: is the number to call it. How are you going

745
00:31:53,573 --> 00:31:56,093
Speaker 3: in your household if the cost of living is starting

746
00:31:56,133 --> 00:31:57,813
Speaker 3: to bite a little bit? What changes you make in

747
00:31:57,973 --> 00:32:01,573
Speaker 3: just a secondary question, what was the best budgeting advice

748
00:32:01,613 --> 00:32:03,493
Speaker 3: you ever got? Love to hear from you. Nine to

749
00:32:03,653 --> 00:32:06,093
Speaker 3: ninety two is the text number. It is a quarter

750
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Speaker 3: to two.

751
00:32:06,493 --> 00:32:08,413
Speaker 2: This business says, I just realized, listen to you. I

752
00:32:08,493 --> 00:32:10,853
Speaker 2: spend over one hundred bucks on coffee a week. Perhaps

753
00:32:10,853 --> 00:32:12,013
Speaker 2: I need to start drinking Milo.

754
00:32:12,573 --> 00:32:13,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, Milo's good stuff.

755
00:32:13,973 --> 00:32:15,813
Speaker 2: You get a big tub of Milo if you drink forever.

756
00:32:15,933 --> 00:32:19,813
Speaker 1: Yeah, have a chat with the lads on eight hundred

757
00:32:19,893 --> 00:32:24,573
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons used Talks'd.

758
00:32:24,133 --> 00:32:26,933
Speaker 3: Be very good afternoon. It is twelve to two.

759
00:32:27,213 --> 00:32:29,973
Speaker 2: This text has squears by multiple accounts with a purpose

760
00:32:30,133 --> 00:32:32,533
Speaker 2: and more than wank one bank. Well, what did I

761
00:32:32,533 --> 00:32:32,973
Speaker 2: say to here?

762
00:32:33,333 --> 00:32:35,093
Speaker 3: More than it was a slip of the tongue right,

763
00:32:35,093 --> 00:32:36,653
Speaker 3: there was a Freudian.

764
00:32:36,373 --> 00:32:38,933
Speaker 2: Slip and more than one bang.

765
00:32:39,213 --> 00:32:40,013
Speaker 3: It's from where's that.

766
00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:44,853
Speaker 2: Listening to you? Donkeys cost me twenty dollars texts a month.

767
00:32:45,013 --> 00:32:46,493
Speaker 2: Cheers or we appreciate it.

768
00:32:46,613 --> 00:32:50,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't unsubscribe from the text machine. Yeah pays our wages.

769
00:32:52,453 --> 00:32:54,653
Speaker 2: How can you not afford to live off two hundred k?

770
00:32:55,133 --> 00:32:57,613
Speaker 2: I'm a female, qualified joiner and just had a baby.

771
00:32:57,613 --> 00:33:00,373
Speaker 2: The government gives six hundred per week for the solo

772
00:33:00,973 --> 00:33:03,013
Speaker 2: parent benefit. My rent is three hundred per week. I

773
00:33:03,053 --> 00:33:07,293
Speaker 2: have a decent car two hundred and seventeen twenty seventeen swift,

774
00:33:07,693 --> 00:33:10,533
Speaker 2: and spend seventy five dollars per week on groceries. My

775
00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:13,853
Speaker 2: baby never goes without. I stopped my Netflix because I

776
00:33:13,853 --> 00:33:16,133
Speaker 2: couldn't justify forty five dollars a month. It's forty five

777
00:33:16,173 --> 00:33:17,173
Speaker 2: dollars a month for Netflix.

778
00:33:17,253 --> 00:33:19,013
Speaker 3: It did go up. I didn't realize it was that much.

779
00:33:19,053 --> 00:33:20,693
Speaker 3: We canceled it a couple of months ago.

780
00:33:20,773 --> 00:33:22,773
Speaker 2: Jeez, if it's twenty five dollars a month, I'm canceling it.

781
00:33:22,893 --> 00:33:23,053
Speaker 12: Yeah.

782
00:33:23,573 --> 00:33:25,093
Speaker 2: I thought it was like twenty four dollars a month.

783
00:33:25,533 --> 00:33:27,573
Speaker 2: They're taking the pace thirty five dollars a month for

784
00:33:27,573 --> 00:33:28,093
Speaker 2: that rubbish.

785
00:33:28,213 --> 00:33:28,413
Speaker 14: Yeah.

786
00:33:28,493 --> 00:33:30,093
Speaker 3: For the nineties movies, Oh.

787
00:33:30,013 --> 00:33:32,813
Speaker 2: The Frankenstein the new Frankenstin movie is very good though.

788
00:33:32,853 --> 00:33:36,933
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's tight but manageable. Is this positive texture?

789
00:33:37,053 --> 00:33:37,253
Speaker 5: Yeah?

790
00:33:37,293 --> 00:33:37,573
Speaker 3: Great?

791
00:33:38,333 --> 00:33:39,973
Speaker 2: Hay Meish, welcome the show.

792
00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:45,973
Speaker 15: Hello guys. Yeah, just a very interesting topic and very

793
00:33:46,013 --> 00:33:49,413
Speaker 15: timely from our point of view. For the first time

794
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Speaker 15: in a very very long time, we've had this seriously

795
00:33:52,413 --> 00:33:55,453
Speaker 15: sit down and look at our budget, household budget and

796
00:33:56,093 --> 00:33:59,813
Speaker 15: probably not since the GFC. Actually, you know we were

797
00:33:59,813 --> 00:34:01,893
Speaker 15: paying nine and a half per cent introspect then too,

798
00:34:02,453 --> 00:34:05,813
Speaker 15: and we had a lot more debt. So it's yeah,

799
00:34:05,853 --> 00:34:10,372
Speaker 15: it's an interesting topic and something yeah, I haven't done

800
00:34:10,373 --> 00:34:13,933
Speaker 15: for a long time. But yeah, we thought time for

801
00:34:13,933 --> 00:34:18,573
Speaker 15: a family conference and a few things on the block.

802
00:34:19,773 --> 00:34:26,533
Speaker 15: Subscriptions to Fat Bastard Pies and Good Wine Friend and

803
00:34:26,613 --> 00:34:29,213
Speaker 15: a few other things have you know, nice to have

804
00:34:29,413 --> 00:34:30,172
Speaker 15: that they can go.

805
00:34:30,373 --> 00:34:32,413
Speaker 3: They would have heard about those two Hamish you know,

806
00:34:32,453 --> 00:34:34,133
Speaker 3: there's some good subscriptions.

807
00:34:34,453 --> 00:34:36,493
Speaker 2: If you don't mind me asking what what? What's What's

808
00:34:36,573 --> 00:34:39,733
Speaker 2: caused the the tightening of the budget.

809
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:45,853
Speaker 15: A couple of things, just I mean huge increases and

810
00:34:46,813 --> 00:34:50,093
Speaker 15: across the board. I mean I've just had another reminder

811
00:34:50,133 --> 00:34:52,413
Speaker 15: from Mercury that our altrist is going up in the

812
00:34:52,453 --> 00:34:56,693
Speaker 15: new year again. You know, I live in Wellington, so

813
00:34:56,933 --> 00:35:01,733
Speaker 15: you know, rates and insurances are just killing us.

814
00:35:01,893 --> 00:35:04,053
Speaker 3: Insurance are a killer at the moment. I'm with you there.

815
00:35:04,653 --> 00:35:06,172
Speaker 3: I mean now as we're going up about thirty three

816
00:35:06,213 --> 00:35:08,973
Speaker 3: percent and it's yeah, it crush is our budget.

817
00:35:09,813 --> 00:35:13,373
Speaker 15: Yeah, so we're looking I mean I've decided to burn

818
00:35:13,493 --> 00:35:17,133
Speaker 15: my income protection because I was very fortunate in the nineties.

819
00:35:17,173 --> 00:35:19,973
Speaker 15: I took out a policy where you've got your premiums

820
00:35:20,053 --> 00:35:22,493
Speaker 15: paid back to you if you never claimed. And so

821
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:26,533
Speaker 15: that's just happened because I've turned sixty last year and

822
00:35:27,733 --> 00:35:32,053
Speaker 15: so I got that payout, which was very nice. But yeah,

823
00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:34,533
Speaker 15: so I thought, well, it only goes to your sixty

824
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:37,213
Speaker 15: five anyway, so I might as well have been that.

825
00:35:37,653 --> 00:35:40,973
Speaker 15: And you're just I think you've got to prioritize your

826
00:35:40,973 --> 00:35:44,733
Speaker 15: insurance as the live it. I think we're definitely holding

827
00:35:44,773 --> 00:35:46,573
Speaker 15: on to our medical assurance insurance.

828
00:35:46,653 --> 00:35:48,893
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's you've got to keep the

829
00:35:48,893 --> 00:35:51,172
Speaker 2: medical insporance if you can, if you've got it, that's

830
00:35:51,213 --> 00:35:52,373
Speaker 2: a very good one.

831
00:35:52,613 --> 00:35:56,493
Speaker 15: Yeah, and reviewing our life cover over each other as well,

832
00:35:56,533 --> 00:36:01,093
Speaker 15: because I mean we still have some debt, but not

833
00:36:01,253 --> 00:36:03,652
Speaker 15: the extent that we had when we took those policies out.

834
00:36:03,813 --> 00:36:07,973
Speaker 2: So also always a bit of a murder risk as well.

835
00:36:08,013 --> 00:36:10,973
Speaker 3: If yeah, yeah, good point.

836
00:36:11,133 --> 00:36:13,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, just someone living in my house, I can do

837
00:36:13,853 --> 00:36:15,613
Speaker 2: very well if I just should have happened to fall

838
00:36:15,653 --> 00:36:17,573
Speaker 2: off a ledge on a walkway.

839
00:36:17,573 --> 00:36:19,693
Speaker 3: You've been watching too much, man.

840
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Speaker 15: But yeah, it's it's and plus I mean you're probably

841
00:36:24,773 --> 00:36:27,093
Speaker 15: in the same boat. Matt's a little bit, you know,

842
00:36:27,133 --> 00:36:31,853
Speaker 15: with a sandwich generation with parents. I've still got parents

843
00:36:31,853 --> 00:36:33,733
Speaker 15: still alive and my wife's got a parents still alive,

844
00:36:33,813 --> 00:36:40,133
Speaker 15: so you know there's costs there as well. Now, so yeah, yeah,

845
00:36:40,173 --> 00:36:42,333
Speaker 15: so yeah, it's really it's been a bit of an

846
00:36:42,373 --> 00:36:45,172
Speaker 15: itement for me and it's been a long long time

847
00:36:45,213 --> 00:36:46,093
Speaker 15: since to do this.

848
00:36:47,333 --> 00:36:50,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, but good on you for doing it when when

849
00:36:50,213 --> 00:36:51,733
Speaker 2: when the time comes, you've got it, you've got to

850
00:36:51,773 --> 00:36:54,453
Speaker 2: do it. And does it just does it feel kind

851
00:36:54,453 --> 00:36:55,933
Speaker 2: of good? I mean, even though you wish you weren't

852
00:36:55,933 --> 00:36:58,293
Speaker 2: doing it, when you find the savings, it does it

853
00:36:58,373 --> 00:36:59,613
Speaker 2: kind of feel good? Yeah?

854
00:36:59,693 --> 00:37:04,293
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah CDs, so you know it does it? Does

855
00:37:05,373 --> 00:37:07,733
Speaker 15: it does feel good to do it.

856
00:37:07,853 --> 00:37:12,453
Speaker 3: And you know, no shame, no, no shame at all.

857
00:37:12,453 --> 00:37:14,253
Speaker 2: In fact, there's more shame and wasting money than there

858
00:37:14,293 --> 00:37:16,173
Speaker 2: is finding savings. I'd say a miss, thank you so

859
00:37:16,293 --> 00:37:17,333
Speaker 2: much for your call. Appreciate it.

860
00:37:17,373 --> 00:37:17,653
Speaker 3: Great.

861
00:37:17,693 --> 00:37:17,813
Speaker 1: Cool.

862
00:37:17,813 --> 00:37:19,613
Speaker 3: We' got to play some messages back very shortly. It

863
00:37:19,693 --> 00:37:20,813
Speaker 3: is seven to two.

864
00:37:21,973 --> 00:37:25,573
Speaker 1: Matt Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

865
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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons.

866
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Speaker 3: News DOGSB news dogs, HEB, it's four to one, few

867
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Speaker 3: texts to get to the news.

868
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Speaker 2: I'm living on one hundred and one thousand and seven bucks,

869
00:37:39,093 --> 00:37:41,893
Speaker 2: take home a week single renting, own own a car

870
00:37:41,933 --> 00:37:44,533
Speaker 2: with about three grand, and survive very well because I

871
00:37:44,573 --> 00:37:48,133
Speaker 2: only spend what I need to simple really happy. This

872
00:37:48,573 --> 00:37:51,573
Speaker 2: text of Philipp says Netflix is twenty six dollars a month.

873
00:37:51,693 --> 00:37:53,253
Speaker 2: She must have the adult upgrade.

874
00:37:53,533 --> 00:37:54,893
Speaker 3: Right, I don't know if you can get that person.

875
00:37:54,933 --> 00:37:57,813
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm spending forty five dollars on Netflix the

876
00:37:57,853 --> 00:37:58,533
Speaker 2: adult upgrade.

877
00:37:58,573 --> 00:38:00,733
Speaker 3: Eh, it's it's a bit extra for the blue movies.

878
00:38:00,853 --> 00:38:03,013
Speaker 2: The six said, I just pulled over and canceled Netflix

879
00:38:03,053 --> 00:38:06,053
Speaker 2: after your shit, I forgot. I had the thanks.

880
00:38:05,773 --> 00:38:07,692
Speaker 3: Guys, there we are. We got one, so.

881
00:38:07,653 --> 00:38:11,652
Speaker 2: We've made we've saved you. Twenty six dollars a is

882
00:38:11,693 --> 00:38:14,373
Speaker 2: that month? It's a month out or forty five if

883
00:38:14,413 --> 00:38:16,373
Speaker 2: you've got the adult up great, Yeah, there we go.

884
00:38:16,893 --> 00:38:19,172
Speaker 3: We held one person out there, so that's what matters. Right,

885
00:38:19,213 --> 00:38:19,933
Speaker 3: good discussion.

886
00:38:20,133 --> 00:38:22,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, there's no shame in coming back. There's more

887
00:38:22,053 --> 00:38:23,133
Speaker 2: shame and wasting money.

888
00:38:23,173 --> 00:38:25,893
Speaker 3: I say, yep, yeah, nicely said, right, coming up after

889
00:38:25,933 --> 00:38:28,413
Speaker 3: two o'clock, let's have a chat about this Uber decision,

890
00:38:28,453 --> 00:38:31,293
Speaker 3: and how would you feel if they left New Zealand entirely.

891
00:38:34,573 --> 00:38:38,373
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams

892
00:38:38,413 --> 00:38:40,172
Speaker 1: Afternoons news talks.

893
00:38:40,173 --> 00:38:44,493
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoons. Welcome back into the show.

894
00:38:44,533 --> 00:38:46,493
Speaker 3: Always great too. Have you listening to us? So, thank

895
00:38:46,533 --> 00:38:49,013
Speaker 3: you very much. Right, let's get into Oh, sorry.

896
00:38:48,773 --> 00:38:49,212
Speaker 1: You go, Matt.

897
00:38:49,413 --> 00:38:53,093
Speaker 2: Someone pushed back on that. We had a text before

898
00:38:53,093 --> 00:38:54,652
Speaker 2: that said they were paying forty five dollars a month

899
00:38:54,693 --> 00:38:57,813
Speaker 2: for Netflix. Yes, it's a little bit more complicated than that,

900
00:38:57,933 --> 00:38:58,253
Speaker 2: isn't it.

901
00:38:58,333 --> 00:39:00,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is that one right there.

902
00:39:00,813 --> 00:39:03,573
Speaker 2: Just to clarify, I was paying for my Netflix and

903
00:39:03,693 --> 00:39:05,853
Speaker 2: my parents had an account at their place which was

904
00:39:05,853 --> 00:39:09,093
Speaker 2: being billed to my account, and I was paying for this. Okay,

905
00:39:08,893 --> 00:39:11,493
Speaker 2: So that text was not on some kind of new

906
00:39:11,693 --> 00:39:13,173
Speaker 2: adult Netflix subscription.

907
00:39:13,293 --> 00:39:17,212
Speaker 3: No Blue movies in that household, not on Netflix anyway. Right,

908
00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:19,733
Speaker 3: let's get into this one. This is a big story

909
00:39:19,813 --> 00:39:23,133
Speaker 3: of today. So New Zealand Supreme Court has ruled that

910
00:39:23,253 --> 00:39:27,493
Speaker 3: four Uber drivers and our officially employees not independent contractors,

911
00:39:27,693 --> 00:39:30,093
Speaker 3: and they've thrown out Uber's appeal. Uber have tried to

912
00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:34,053
Speaker 3: appeal twice and lost both times. So unions and some

913
00:39:34,093 --> 00:39:36,493
Speaker 3: of those drivers are celebrating, as you can imagine, but

914
00:39:36,573 --> 00:39:40,093
Speaker 3: many businesses and users are sounding a bit of an alarm,

915
00:39:40,173 --> 00:39:43,413
Speaker 3: saying this ruling could mean the end of ride share

916
00:39:43,493 --> 00:39:45,692
Speaker 3: in New Zealand, not just Uber, all of them because

917
00:39:45,733 --> 00:39:48,413
Speaker 3: they all follow a similar model and that will be

918
00:39:48,533 --> 00:39:51,573
Speaker 3: of concern to many people. Yeah, I mean, I.

919
00:39:51,493 --> 00:39:54,173
Speaker 2: Can't imagine in New Zealand without Uber now. I was

920
00:39:54,213 --> 00:39:55,853
Speaker 2: just down in Queenstown and they've got Uber and it

921
00:39:55,893 --> 00:39:58,613
Speaker 2: makes just going around more and more. How much better

922
00:39:58,693 --> 00:39:58,813
Speaker 2: is it?

923
00:39:59,093 --> 00:39:59,253
Speaker 12: You know?

924
00:39:59,253 --> 00:40:00,773
Speaker 2: When I go down to Dunedin to visit my dad,

925
00:40:00,773 --> 00:40:02,493
Speaker 2: they've now got Uber there they didn't for a while.

926
00:40:02,533 --> 00:40:04,533
Speaker 2: It just makes things a lot better. I'm not sure

927
00:40:04,573 --> 00:40:06,973
Speaker 2: about the morality of how people are being paid, but

928
00:40:07,013 --> 00:40:08,893
Speaker 2: I always talk to an Uber driver and I always

929
00:40:08,893 --> 00:40:11,773
Speaker 2: ask them how it's going for them, and most of them,

930
00:40:11,973 --> 00:40:15,733
Speaker 2: most of them are positive about the situation. So there

931
00:40:15,733 --> 00:40:17,652
Speaker 2: could be a lot of other Uber drivers that aren't

932
00:40:17,733 --> 00:40:21,252
Speaker 2: very happy with these four Uber drivers if the gig

933
00:40:21,293 --> 00:40:23,652
Speaker 2: economy gets removed from them. But what do you think

934
00:40:23,693 --> 00:40:25,693
Speaker 2: about it? What do you think about this rolling eight

935
00:40:25,813 --> 00:40:29,053
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty ten eighty. But also, what do you

936
00:40:29,053 --> 00:40:31,172
Speaker 2: think about in New Zealand without Uber, Because they will

937
00:40:31,213 --> 00:40:35,293
Speaker 2: if it's not a matter of whether they would change

938
00:40:35,333 --> 00:40:41,333
Speaker 2: their practices. They're just a huge multinational tech company. They'll

939
00:40:41,413 --> 00:40:44,453
Speaker 2: up sticks. Yep. If their business model doesn't go ahead

940
00:40:44,493 --> 00:40:48,652
Speaker 2: in New Zealand, then they won't be around anymore. And

941
00:40:48,813 --> 00:40:52,533
Speaker 2: I personally cannot imagine in New Zealand without Uber. I

942
00:40:52,573 --> 00:40:56,812
Speaker 2: didn't really get taxis before Uber because it just didn't

943
00:40:56,813 --> 00:40:58,453
Speaker 2: really work for me. I mean, as soon as there

944
00:40:58,453 --> 00:41:00,133
Speaker 2: was Uber, I was all over the place and blasting

945
00:41:00,133 --> 00:41:03,333
Speaker 2: everywhere on there. My kids. I've got Uber on my

946
00:41:03,413 --> 00:41:05,813
Speaker 2: kid's phone. I like the fact that they know that

947
00:41:05,853 --> 00:41:08,133
Speaker 2: they can get out of anywhere that they need to

948
00:41:08,133 --> 00:41:10,733
Speaker 2: get out of pretty quickly. They can just press the

949
00:41:10,733 --> 00:41:13,533
Speaker 2: evact button. A noble pick them up and take them home.

950
00:41:13,653 --> 00:41:14,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

951
00:41:14,293 --> 00:41:16,573
Speaker 2: And I've got a son who's eighteen now and he's

952
00:41:16,613 --> 00:41:18,213
Speaker 2: out in about a lot. I just like the idea

953
00:41:18,253 --> 00:41:20,453
Speaker 2: that anytime he can get out of there. Whereas you know,

954
00:41:20,493 --> 00:41:22,453
Speaker 2: back in the day, and I know that taxis now

955
00:41:22,493 --> 00:41:24,973
Speaker 2: are much more advanced than they've got the apps and such,

956
00:41:25,573 --> 00:41:27,533
Speaker 2: but back in the day, you know, you'd ring a taxi,

957
00:41:27,533 --> 00:41:30,213
Speaker 2: you'd be waiting on the street for forty five minutes.

958
00:41:30,293 --> 00:41:31,773
Speaker 2: You'd have no idea whether it was going to come

959
00:41:31,813 --> 00:41:34,333
Speaker 2: or not. So, whatever you think about Uber, they have

960
00:41:34,453 --> 00:41:38,133
Speaker 2: improved not only you know, the ride sharing part of

961
00:41:38,133 --> 00:41:40,013
Speaker 2: it is not only improving, but it also improved old

962
00:41:40,053 --> 00:41:41,133
Speaker 2: school taxis.

963
00:41:40,813 --> 00:41:41,133
Speaker 5: Didn't it.

964
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:43,533
Speaker 3: When you have that sort of convenience, Can you really

965
00:41:43,573 --> 00:41:45,373
Speaker 3: go back to the way it was? It will be

966
00:41:45,413 --> 00:41:46,893
Speaker 3: a tough thing. And I think, you know, back in

967
00:41:46,893 --> 00:41:49,172
Speaker 3: the day, and I use this word deliberately, I think

968
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,413
Speaker 3: there was an arrogance from taxi companies that they had

969
00:41:51,413 --> 00:41:53,253
Speaker 3: the monopoly. They certainly did a Nelson when I was

970
00:41:53,253 --> 00:41:55,853
Speaker 3: grown up. So you'd ring the operator and you'd say, hey,

971
00:41:55,893 --> 00:41:58,493
Speaker 3: can we please have a taxi outside by seven pm? Oh,

972
00:41:58,573 --> 00:42:00,493
Speaker 3: we'll try biss. Yeah, we see what we can do,

973
00:42:00,693 --> 00:42:02,973
Speaker 3: but no promises. They'll turn up when they turn up,

974
00:42:02,973 --> 00:42:04,933
Speaker 3: and if you don't like it, you can go to hell. Basically.

975
00:42:05,413 --> 00:42:08,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was Ambicago only a few years ago and

976
00:42:08,693 --> 00:42:10,813
Speaker 2: they didn't have Uber there and I ordered a taxi

977
00:42:11,013 --> 00:42:12,773
Speaker 2: and it was outside of a restaurant. They're picking me

978
00:42:12,853 --> 00:42:15,333
Speaker 2: up and I said, can they text me when they're over?

979
00:42:15,333 --> 00:42:17,692
Speaker 2: Said no, actually, at first I rang up and I said,

980
00:42:17,693 --> 00:42:19,133
Speaker 2: can I get a taxi? It was about ten o'clock

981
00:42:19,173 --> 00:42:22,093
Speaker 2: at night, and the woman started telling me off, you're

982
00:42:22,093 --> 00:42:23,652
Speaker 2: trying to get a taxi? Now, where do you need

983
00:42:23,693 --> 00:42:23,933
Speaker 2: to go?

984
00:42:24,493 --> 00:42:24,692
Speaker 5: No?

985
00:42:25,813 --> 00:42:27,773
Speaker 2: And I said yeah, well, and I said, okay, Well,

986
00:42:27,853 --> 00:42:30,373
Speaker 2: well if there's one available, we'll send them any time

987
00:42:30,413 --> 00:42:32,893
Speaker 2: from I don't know. Can they text when they're outside, No,

988
00:42:32,973 --> 00:42:35,652
Speaker 2: they'll be outside when they're outside. Oh, that was like

989
00:42:35,693 --> 00:42:37,013
Speaker 2: going back in time. That would have been like three

990
00:42:37,093 --> 00:42:37,493
Speaker 2: years ago.

991
00:42:37,613 --> 00:42:40,292
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number

992
00:42:40,333 --> 00:42:44,093
Speaker 3: to call. How would you feel about Uber upsticking from

993
00:42:44,173 --> 00:42:46,253
Speaker 3: New Zealand and just saying we don't want any part

994
00:42:46,293 --> 00:42:48,453
Speaker 3: of it because it no longer works for us and

995
00:42:48,493 --> 00:42:50,652
Speaker 3: for Uber drivers out there? How do you feel about

996
00:42:50,733 --> 00:42:52,693
Speaker 3: this decision? I imagine there's a lot of you that

997
00:42:52,773 --> 00:42:54,653
Speaker 3: might be a bit worried. There's a lot of livelihoods

998
00:42:54,653 --> 00:42:56,212
Speaker 3: at play here. I don't know how many people drive

999
00:42:56,253 --> 00:42:58,253
Speaker 3: for Uber, but it's clearly in the thousands, if not

1000
00:42:58,293 --> 00:43:00,813
Speaker 3: tens of thousands. So I eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1001
00:43:00,933 --> 00:43:02,893
Speaker 3: is that number to call? Nine two ninety two is

1002
00:43:02,973 --> 00:43:03,893
Speaker 3: the text.

1003
00:43:03,933 --> 00:43:06,213
Speaker 2: We've got to text here? Why is Uber no different

1004
00:43:06,293 --> 00:43:09,413
Speaker 2: than other self employed industries? For sample, real estate agents

1005
00:43:09,453 --> 00:43:12,013
Speaker 2: are self employed, They paid their own tax, they don't

1006
00:43:12,013 --> 00:43:15,613
Speaker 2: get Kiwi Saber, they don't get annual leave. Yeah, I mean,

1007
00:43:16,013 --> 00:43:19,893
Speaker 2: so that what the Supreme Court for finding was that

1008
00:43:20,013 --> 00:43:23,692
Speaker 2: the court found that Uber exercised very close control over

1009
00:43:23,773 --> 00:43:27,453
Speaker 2: roots performance and the entire period drivers were logged into

1010
00:43:27,493 --> 00:43:30,133
Speaker 2: the app. Drivers couldn't influence their pay or how much

1011
00:43:30,173 --> 00:43:32,693
Speaker 2: work they were offered, and couldn't build their own businesses

1012
00:43:32,973 --> 00:43:35,693
Speaker 2: or goodwill. Whereas a real estate agent, for example, you

1013
00:43:35,733 --> 00:43:38,293
Speaker 2: know they've got the billboards up with their faces, they

1014
00:43:38,293 --> 00:43:43,732
Speaker 2: have repeat clients, they create their own their own sort

1015
00:43:43,773 --> 00:43:46,733
Speaker 2: of well what do you call it, their own brand,

1016
00:43:47,053 --> 00:43:50,933
Speaker 2: their own following, whereas you absolutely can't do that as

1017
00:43:50,973 --> 00:43:53,293
Speaker 2: an Uber driver. You're not allowed to push for repeat

1018
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:54,453
Speaker 2: business as an Uber driver.

1019
00:43:54,573 --> 00:43:56,933
Speaker 3: Absolutely there's a difference there. But just on the Uber drivers,

1020
00:43:56,973 --> 00:43:58,333
Speaker 3: I mean to me, and I want to see them

1021
00:43:58,373 --> 00:44:01,933
Speaker 3: get paid fairly, of course, but that idea about flexibility.

1022
00:44:02,013 --> 00:44:04,973
Speaker 3: So they had complete flexibility on when they operated that

1023
00:44:05,133 --> 00:44:07,893
Speaker 3: Uber when they didn't want to operate, and that dictated

1024
00:44:07,893 --> 00:44:10,252
Speaker 3: the hours that they worked. And again it's a job

1025
00:44:10,293 --> 00:44:12,013
Speaker 3: that you can walk away with and don't you have

1026
00:44:13,013 --> 00:44:15,652
Speaker 3: power as drivers that if you do not like what

1027
00:44:15,733 --> 00:44:18,493
Speaker 3: you're getting paid, you just stop working and say sorry, Uber,

1028
00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:19,772
Speaker 3: We're not going to work for this, and I don't

1029
00:44:19,773 --> 00:44:22,253
Speaker 3: think anybody else will. Then Uber will leave anyway, But

1030
00:44:22,293 --> 00:44:27,053
Speaker 3: there's still power, and those employers, employees rather at Lenz

1031
00:44:27,053 --> 00:44:29,453
Speaker 3: say nah, no, buger it, I'm going to delete it

1032
00:44:29,453 --> 00:44:30,813
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to drive for Uber anymore. Then

1033
00:44:30,893 --> 00:44:31,813
Speaker 3: Uber would be stuffed.

1034
00:44:32,013 --> 00:44:35,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there you go. That's Tyler's that's Tyler's thoughts.

1035
00:44:35,253 --> 00:44:39,613
Speaker 2: What's yours? Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. How would you

1036
00:44:39,653 --> 00:44:41,613
Speaker 2: feel about an Uber free New Zealand?

1037
00:44:41,693 --> 00:44:43,413
Speaker 3: It has twelve past two? Back in a moment.

1038
00:44:44,773 --> 00:44:49,133
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons

1039
00:44:49,173 --> 00:44:52,093
Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talk, said B.

1040
00:44:54,253 --> 00:44:56,252
Speaker 3: News Talk said B. It is a quarter past two.

1041
00:44:56,533 --> 00:44:59,172
Speaker 3: So how would you feel if Uber decided to leave

1042
00:44:59,213 --> 00:45:02,453
Speaker 3: the New Zealand market after the Supreme Court decision? That

1043
00:45:02,573 --> 00:45:06,133
Speaker 3: calls some drivers those four drivers employees not contractors. Oh,

1044
00:45:06,173 --> 00:45:08,333
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number?

1045
00:45:08,493 --> 00:45:11,133
Speaker 2: Call Colleen your thoughts on this?

1046
00:45:12,173 --> 00:45:12,453
Speaker 18: Hello?

1047
00:45:12,613 --> 00:45:13,973
Speaker 11: I know you'd love to hear from me.

1048
00:45:14,053 --> 00:45:15,253
Speaker 12: So I thought i'd better.

1049
00:45:15,333 --> 00:45:17,293
Speaker 2: Always love to hear from you, Colleen. Thanks for ringing.

1050
00:45:17,453 --> 00:45:22,013
Speaker 11: I'm just so special the poor uber drivers.

1051
00:45:22,133 --> 00:45:23,773
Speaker 14: I mean, yes, they.

1052
00:45:23,613 --> 00:45:26,533
Speaker 11: Do have the decision in their own hands whether to

1053
00:45:26,573 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 11: do it or not.

1054
00:45:27,773 --> 00:45:28,732
Speaker 13: I've only used it once.

1055
00:45:28,973 --> 00:45:29,733
Speaker 8: It was great, but I.

1056
00:45:29,813 --> 00:45:31,693
Speaker 13: Know people that use it all the time.

1057
00:45:32,173 --> 00:45:34,973
Speaker 11: But if those people are working and ending up with

1058
00:45:35,093 --> 00:45:37,573
Speaker 11: ten or twelve or thirteen dollars an hour, that's just

1059
00:45:37,653 --> 00:45:38,252
Speaker 11: criminal gold.

1060
00:45:39,573 --> 00:45:42,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I see the flip side of that. To me, Colleen,

1061
00:45:42,493 --> 00:45:45,172
Speaker 3: is that complete flexibility in the job and if you're

1062
00:45:45,213 --> 00:45:47,013
Speaker 3: not happy with that rate, and I know, look the

1063
00:45:47,093 --> 00:45:48,973
Speaker 3: job market stuff at the moment, I accept that for

1064
00:45:49,053 --> 00:45:51,693
Speaker 3: many people out there, but that's part and parcel of

1065
00:45:51,733 --> 00:45:54,733
Speaker 3: it that you drive your own hours. And yes, the

1066
00:45:54,813 --> 00:45:58,172
Speaker 3: pay not might not be amazing every time you go out.

1067
00:45:58,213 --> 00:46:00,493
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but that's the that's

1068
00:46:00,533 --> 00:46:01,533
Speaker 3: the payoff, so to speak.

1069
00:46:02,493 --> 00:46:04,692
Speaker 11: I know, I totally get that, but I think they'd

1070
00:46:04,733 --> 00:46:07,453
Speaker 11: be better off if they could stacking shelves.

1071
00:46:07,213 --> 00:46:09,493
Speaker 13: That were worth it, generical, nital something.

1072
00:46:09,373 --> 00:46:12,853
Speaker 11: If if that suited WAT children or whatever whatever.

1073
00:46:13,173 --> 00:46:14,573
Speaker 13: I just think the whole thing's.

1074
00:46:14,373 --> 00:46:18,493
Speaker 11: Very sad, very sad that we've come to that where

1075
00:46:18,573 --> 00:46:21,413
Speaker 11: some people are earning that sort of money in New Zealand.

1076
00:46:21,613 --> 00:46:23,293
Speaker 11: I mean, I hope they get tips.

1077
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:25,413
Speaker 2: But if they don't, if they don't earn enough money,

1078
00:46:25,413 --> 00:46:28,453
Speaker 2: they just stop doing it, Colleen, so that they go

1079
00:46:28,573 --> 00:46:30,093
Speaker 2: up and they earn some money, and then if it's

1080
00:46:30,133 --> 00:46:31,973
Speaker 2: not worth that, they just stop.

1081
00:46:33,173 --> 00:46:35,652
Speaker 11: I know, I know what you're saying completely and I

1082
00:46:35,693 --> 00:46:37,613
Speaker 11: get it, but I just think some of these people

1083
00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:40,732
Speaker 11: may not have any other things that they can do

1084
00:46:40,773 --> 00:46:45,493
Speaker 11: to pull anything. Yeah, situation they're run. That's why I

1085
00:46:45,493 --> 00:46:46,733
Speaker 11: think it's just a bit.

1086
00:46:48,093 --> 00:46:49,853
Speaker 13: I'll say criminal, but I don't mean it.

1087
00:46:49,813 --> 00:46:52,093
Speaker 12: To be that severe. You know that these people are

1088
00:46:52,093 --> 00:46:52,732
Speaker 12: having to do.

1089
00:46:52,653 --> 00:46:55,252
Speaker 2: That, but I guess the people that do it would

1090
00:46:55,333 --> 00:46:58,053
Speaker 2: say that. You know, if you start putting full full

1091
00:46:58,093 --> 00:47:02,613
Speaker 2: employment obligations on Uber, then you eliminate the part time,

1092
00:47:02,733 --> 00:47:06,693
Speaker 2: the casual part of the people doing multi multi jobs,

1093
00:47:07,133 --> 00:47:11,093
Speaker 2: you know, students that are doing in the in the evenings,

1094
00:47:11,213 --> 00:47:13,613
Speaker 2: you know. So there's something pretty good in the flexibility

1095
00:47:13,613 --> 00:47:16,813
Speaker 2: for some people. I mean, so many people drive ubers

1096
00:47:16,853 --> 00:47:18,893
Speaker 2: or a registered to drive ubers in New Zealand. Is

1097
00:47:18,933 --> 00:47:21,373
Speaker 2: it forty thousand, It's something like that.

1098
00:47:21,533 --> 00:47:22,853
Speaker 3: Find out that number A.

1099
00:47:22,853 --> 00:47:26,253
Speaker 2: Lot there's a lot, so it definitely works for some people,

1100
00:47:26,853 --> 00:47:30,133
Speaker 2: but it is an all or nothing situation, I imagine for

1101
00:47:30,253 --> 00:47:33,293
Speaker 2: Uber because so they've had this ruling, it's just around

1102
00:47:33,293 --> 00:47:36,813
Speaker 2: four drivers, and so Uber's continuing as it is for now.

1103
00:47:37,253 --> 00:47:41,013
Speaker 2: But if you change their work model, they're gone. Yes,

1104
00:47:41,053 --> 00:47:43,933
Speaker 2: So that means that they're gone not only for the customers,

1105
00:47:43,933 --> 00:47:47,213
Speaker 2: but they're also gone for the Uber drivers that are

1106
00:47:47,653 --> 00:47:50,933
Speaker 2: succeeding with it exactly or succeeding with their life and

1107
00:47:51,293 --> 00:47:53,333
Speaker 2: the hours that they want to work. If you are

1108
00:47:53,373 --> 00:47:55,613
Speaker 2: one of those Uber drivers, thank you very much calling

1109
00:47:55,653 --> 00:47:56,853
Speaker 2: for your court always love to hear from you. If

1110
00:47:56,893 --> 00:47:58,893
Speaker 2: you're one of those drivers, how do you feel about this?

1111
00:47:58,933 --> 00:48:01,013
Speaker 2: I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Are you actually

1112
00:48:01,053 --> 00:48:05,133
Speaker 2: making some fairly decent money driving for Uber and that flexibility?

1113
00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:06,573
Speaker 3: Is it working for you? Love to hear from you.

1114
00:48:07,253 --> 00:48:09,172
Speaker 3: I eight one hundred eighty ten Is that number to call?

1115
00:48:09,253 --> 00:48:16,333
Speaker 3: Eighteen past two Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons?

1116
00:48:16,333 --> 00:48:18,772
Speaker 1: Call oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty on used

1117
00:48:18,773 --> 00:48:19,573
Speaker 1: talk zb.

1118
00:48:19,893 --> 00:48:21,973
Speaker 3: Tex machine is fired up. We are talking about the

1119
00:48:22,053 --> 00:48:25,373
Speaker 3: decision around Uber drivers, four of them. The Supreme Court

1120
00:48:25,413 --> 00:48:28,493
Speaker 3: has said that they are employees, not contractors that will

1121
00:48:28,533 --> 00:48:32,133
Speaker 3: have wide ranging ramifications and potentially Uber leaving the New

1122
00:48:32,213 --> 00:48:32,732
Speaker 3: Zealand market.

1123
00:48:33,013 --> 00:48:35,652
Speaker 2: This texture is not a fan of those four Uber

1124
00:48:35,733 --> 00:48:38,413
Speaker 2: drivers that have gone all the way to the Supreme Court.

1125
00:48:38,613 --> 00:48:41,613
Speaker 2: What a bunch of winers. Go get another job, you

1126
00:48:41,613 --> 00:48:47,373
Speaker 2: absolute losers. Wow, hope them being employees doesn't work out.

1127
00:48:47,493 --> 00:48:49,573
Speaker 2: Uber is awesome. Don't want to be a contractor, then

1128
00:48:49,613 --> 00:48:52,933
Speaker 2: don't be one. It's ridiculous. Unbelievable. The court even heard.

1129
00:48:53,173 --> 00:48:59,053
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. The court even heard these turd burgers. Unbelievable.

1130
00:48:59,093 --> 00:48:59,853
Speaker 2: The court even heard.

1131
00:48:59,693 --> 00:49:01,893
Speaker 3: These turd burgers didn't hold back their texter.

1132
00:49:02,773 --> 00:49:05,053
Speaker 2: I need to get that sentence right. Unbelievable. The court

1133
00:49:05,133 --> 00:49:07,413
Speaker 2: even heard these turd burgers.

1134
00:49:07,573 --> 00:49:09,453
Speaker 3: Beautiful delivered at three times.

1135
00:49:09,853 --> 00:49:12,693
Speaker 2: At the last time was perfect, mate, Emily, welcome to

1136
00:49:12,693 --> 00:49:13,013
Speaker 2: the show.

1137
00:49:13,893 --> 00:49:17,133
Speaker 18: Yeah, Hi, I was listening to what you guys are

1138
00:49:17,133 --> 00:49:19,573
Speaker 18: saying before, and I was just like, yeah, I agree

1139
00:49:19,573 --> 00:49:21,253
Speaker 18: with all of the people who were on the text.

1140
00:49:21,333 --> 00:49:24,413
Speaker 18: I was like, I don't like as an Ober each driver,

1141
00:49:24,773 --> 00:49:27,373
Speaker 18: I don't understand out of like you guys said before,

1142
00:49:27,413 --> 00:49:30,853
Speaker 18: something like forty thousand people, if nobody else wanted this,

1143
00:49:30,893 --> 00:49:33,213
Speaker 18: if everybody. Sorry, If everybody else wanted this to happen,

1144
00:49:33,573 --> 00:49:35,813
Speaker 18: forty thousand people would be jumping on that. But if

1145
00:49:35,853 --> 00:49:38,093
Speaker 18: there's only four people out of forty thousand, I don't

1146
00:49:38,133 --> 00:49:41,813
Speaker 18: see why it's even being heard. Because it's it is

1147
00:49:41,853 --> 00:49:45,053
Speaker 18: the flexibility. It's so good because you go, oh, like,

1148
00:49:45,373 --> 00:49:47,093
Speaker 18: I'm a little bit short with my job this week,

1149
00:49:47,093 --> 00:49:50,213
Speaker 18: but I don't want to be employed with another company.

1150
00:49:50,613 --> 00:49:53,093
Speaker 18: You basically have the freedom to do what you want

1151
00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:56,013
Speaker 18: you don't like. I've been what's ober eats for about

1152
00:49:56,893 --> 00:49:59,293
Speaker 18: three years now, and I haven't done anything for the

1153
00:49:59,373 --> 00:50:03,573
Speaker 18: past maybe eight months or nine months, But I haven't

1154
00:50:03,613 --> 00:50:05,333
Speaker 18: had to. I haven't been kicked off.

1155
00:50:06,293 --> 00:50:08,293
Speaker 2: You haven't. You haven't delivered. You haven't done any deliveries

1156
00:50:08,333 --> 00:50:09,653
Speaker 2: in the last nine months, did you say?

1157
00:50:09,573 --> 00:50:09,772
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1158
00:50:10,133 --> 00:50:10,293
Speaker 7: Right?

1159
00:50:10,373 --> 00:50:10,533
Speaker 14: Yeah?

1160
00:50:10,533 --> 00:50:12,213
Speaker 18: And I can still like I could turn it on

1161
00:50:12,333 --> 00:50:13,973
Speaker 18: now and still go and do delivery.

1162
00:50:14,413 --> 00:50:15,093
Speaker 2: Yeah right.

1163
00:50:15,253 --> 00:50:17,373
Speaker 18: If I didn't turn up to my part time job

1164
00:50:17,413 --> 00:50:19,613
Speaker 18: for nine months, I wouldn't be able to just go

1165
00:50:19,653 --> 00:50:21,333
Speaker 18: and get a job, you know, I wouldn't.

1166
00:50:21,013 --> 00:50:22,893
Speaker 2: Be able to go down just turn up.

1167
00:50:23,173 --> 00:50:25,333
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm here, yep, I'm back. What are we doing?

1168
00:50:26,093 --> 00:50:26,453
Speaker 19: Yeah?

1169
00:50:26,493 --> 00:50:28,853
Speaker 18: So I'm back now. I want to make some extra money,

1170
00:50:28,893 --> 00:50:31,013
Speaker 18: like you can't do That's what there's a whole point

1171
00:50:31,013 --> 00:50:34,053
Speaker 18: of Uber. And if you sign up and you don't

1172
00:50:34,133 --> 00:50:36,533
Speaker 18: like to pay, go somewhere else and get a proper job,

1173
00:50:36,893 --> 00:50:38,813
Speaker 18: Like that's a part of It's a whole part of it.

1174
00:50:38,853 --> 00:50:41,893
Speaker 18: And to be honest, those people aren't probably doing it

1175
00:50:41,893 --> 00:50:44,853
Speaker 18: properly because like I think my best week was about

1176
00:50:44,853 --> 00:50:47,253
Speaker 18: three hundred and fifty dollars, but then I've talked to

1177
00:50:47,333 --> 00:50:51,133
Speaker 18: other Uber each drivers who have done fifteen hundred to us,

1178
00:50:51,493 --> 00:50:55,573
Speaker 18: you know, Like, so there's definitely times in days that

1179
00:50:55,653 --> 00:50:59,013
Speaker 18: work way better than others, like those Saturday nights, the

1180
00:50:59,053 --> 00:51:00,973
Speaker 18: Friday nights and people are drinking and that you know,

1181
00:51:01,213 --> 00:51:04,093
Speaker 18: you do have to choose your time, so there's always

1182
00:51:04,093 --> 00:51:06,613
Speaker 18: a trade off. But if you don't want to do it,

1183
00:51:06,653 --> 00:51:07,652
Speaker 18: don't don't do it.

1184
00:51:07,693 --> 00:51:09,493
Speaker 20: There, thought about it.

1185
00:51:09,573 --> 00:51:11,573
Speaker 2: What about a situation that Emily where it's some kind

1186
00:51:11,613 --> 00:51:14,293
Speaker 2: of half musics between the two where when you are

1187
00:51:14,333 --> 00:51:17,373
Speaker 2: on you're guaranteed a minimum wage. You're guaranteed the minimum

1188
00:51:17,373 --> 00:51:19,293
Speaker 2: wage like everyone else. So if you've turned it on

1189
00:51:19,333 --> 00:51:23,253
Speaker 2: for an hour and you're driving around, then whatever happens

1190
00:51:23,253 --> 00:51:25,333
Speaker 2: you get, you get whatever the minium wages. What is

1191
00:51:25,373 --> 00:51:26,373
Speaker 2: it twenty three bucks.

1192
00:51:26,813 --> 00:51:30,093
Speaker 18: Or yeah, that's that's yeah, I think that. I think

1193
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:34,533
Speaker 18: I don't mind that because I have done I think so.

1194
00:51:34,773 --> 00:51:39,133
Speaker 18: In Palmson North, I went from Palms the North to Ashurst,

1195
00:51:39,133 --> 00:51:43,213
Speaker 18: which is I think about fifteen to twenty kilometers roughly

1196
00:51:43,733 --> 00:51:47,853
Speaker 18: maybe ten kilometers and I think altogether that delivery took

1197
00:51:47,893 --> 00:51:49,493
Speaker 18: me about half an hour and I only got paid

1198
00:51:49,533 --> 00:51:53,333
Speaker 18: seven dollars. So some orders just suck and then other

1199
00:51:53,373 --> 00:51:55,533
Speaker 18: ones don't. That's why I kind of say to people

1200
00:51:55,693 --> 00:51:58,613
Speaker 18: I always as being an over each driver. Now I

1201
00:51:58,733 --> 00:52:02,173
Speaker 18: always tip people. I know New Zealand's not a tipping culture,

1202
00:52:02,253 --> 00:52:07,213
Speaker 18: but honestly, five dollars and like from your own pocket

1203
00:52:07,413 --> 00:52:11,212
Speaker 18: is really nothing, but for the Ober each driver, that's

1204
00:52:11,213 --> 00:52:14,133
Speaker 18: the difference between a seven dollars trip and a twelve

1205
00:52:14,133 --> 00:52:17,173
Speaker 18: dollars trip. Like it's actually it's quite a lot for

1206
00:52:17,813 --> 00:52:21,413
Speaker 18: a driver. Even in Auckland, I was talking to my

1207
00:52:21,533 --> 00:52:24,493
Speaker 18: Uber driver and he was saying that when you go

1208
00:52:24,573 --> 00:52:26,693
Speaker 18: into the airport, you have to pay five dollars to

1209
00:52:26,733 --> 00:52:30,293
Speaker 18: come into the airport as an Uber driver, but you

1210
00:52:30,533 --> 00:52:32,653
Speaker 18: have to now leave the airport and come back in

1211
00:52:32,733 --> 00:52:34,453
Speaker 18: to be able to pick someone up and pay another

1212
00:52:34,493 --> 00:52:37,813
Speaker 18: five dollars even though it's like probably five steps for

1213
00:52:37,893 --> 00:52:42,413
Speaker 18: a past to just walk across, like that's quite bad.

1214
00:52:42,493 --> 00:52:43,813
Speaker 3: It's dirty from that airport.

1215
00:52:43,893 --> 00:52:48,213
Speaker 2: That is dirty and also dirty for a passenger because

1216
00:52:48,493 --> 00:52:50,853
Speaker 2: then you're waiting for visit and go stupid driver on

1217
00:52:50,893 --> 00:52:52,413
Speaker 2: the blot, yeah.

1218
00:52:52,253 --> 00:52:53,893
Speaker 18: And you get canceled. Like last timer I was at

1219
00:52:53,893 --> 00:52:56,613
Speaker 18: Auckland Airport, I got canceled maybe three times by Uber

1220
00:52:56,693 --> 00:52:59,292
Speaker 18: drivers because they had accepted it. And then they also

1221
00:52:59,333 --> 00:53:01,813
Speaker 18: get penalized as well. So if I looked and I

1222
00:53:01,853 --> 00:53:03,533
Speaker 18: was like, oh, look there's my Uber car, I'll just

1223
00:53:03,573 --> 00:53:06,732
Speaker 18: walk over the air and go to the the drop

1224
00:53:06,773 --> 00:53:10,293
Speaker 18: off area because it's just a few steps, they get

1225
00:53:10,333 --> 00:53:12,652
Speaker 18: penalized for me doing that, so they actually have to steal.

1226
00:53:13,133 --> 00:53:16,413
Speaker 18: So I think, yeah, I think that that's really unfar.

1227
00:53:17,413 --> 00:53:19,413
Speaker 18: That's been like that since the new Aukland the airport

1228
00:53:19,573 --> 00:53:24,413
Speaker 18: opened up. Either that or the Uber driver was lying

1229
00:53:24,453 --> 00:53:26,253
Speaker 18: to me. But why would he lie it? I don't know,

1230
00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:29,333
Speaker 18: but I ended up, you know, I think that in

1231
00:53:29,453 --> 00:53:31,493
Speaker 18: saying that as well as like the tip that's on

1232
00:53:31,653 --> 00:53:34,533
Speaker 18: the Uber driver to pay, that Uber doesn't pay that

1233
00:53:34,573 --> 00:53:37,013
Speaker 18: for them, so then I you know, I would tip

1234
00:53:37,053 --> 00:53:42,333
Speaker 18: them and say, well, you know you can have extra

1235
00:53:42,373 --> 00:53:45,373
Speaker 18: money because then you're actually going to be feeding a family.

1236
00:53:45,453 --> 00:53:49,453
Speaker 18: Some people, like somebody else said no, some people. Actually

1237
00:53:49,933 --> 00:53:52,013
Speaker 18: there's a language barrier. You know that with a lot

1238
00:53:52,053 --> 00:53:54,453
Speaker 18: of your Uber drivers, there's a language barrier and it's

1239
00:53:54,453 --> 00:53:56,853
Speaker 18: the easiest way for them to make money, to be

1240
00:53:56,893 --> 00:53:58,973
Speaker 18: able to get into a job because they can do

1241
00:53:59,053 --> 00:54:02,013
Speaker 18: it as a contractor. No one has to tell them

1242
00:54:02,093 --> 00:54:07,093
Speaker 18: like Uber doesn't discriminate on language barriers. They just say

1243
00:54:07,253 --> 00:54:10,533
Speaker 18: they actually helped. To be honest, they help people if

1244
00:54:10,573 --> 00:54:12,933
Speaker 18: you've been driving more like there's a lot of benefits

1245
00:54:12,933 --> 00:54:16,453
Speaker 18: from OBER where they'll actually give you discounts and when

1246
00:54:16,493 --> 00:54:19,293
Speaker 18: you have been driving for long enough so actually give

1247
00:54:19,413 --> 00:54:22,773
Speaker 18: you free lessons to help you with your English. So

1248
00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:24,213
Speaker 18: there's a lot of things like that.

1249
00:54:24,893 --> 00:54:25,093
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1250
00:54:25,453 --> 00:54:27,253
Speaker 2: Where about so they pay for you to go to

1251
00:54:27,453 --> 00:54:31,373
Speaker 2: a course or your online courses.

1252
00:54:32,053 --> 00:54:34,933
Speaker 18: Yeah, so they have they have a lot like, yeah,

1253
00:54:34,973 --> 00:54:37,293
Speaker 18: there's a lot of benefits from having OBER. They partner

1254
00:54:37,293 --> 00:54:41,693
Speaker 18: with different companies in New Zealand, like like your BP

1255
00:54:42,333 --> 00:54:48,013
Speaker 18: and super g Porto. Well like you know, language places

1256
00:54:48,013 --> 00:54:50,733
Speaker 18: so that they can help people with your English. So

1257
00:54:51,213 --> 00:54:53,493
Speaker 18: I think that would be really sad if they did

1258
00:54:54,293 --> 00:54:56,533
Speaker 18: end up leaving because I think it's actually helping a

1259
00:54:56,573 --> 00:54:59,453
Speaker 18: lot of people and it would just, you know, it

1260
00:54:59,453 --> 00:55:01,133
Speaker 18: would really suck if they did they actually leave.

1261
00:55:01,213 --> 00:55:04,573
Speaker 2: Because how often, Emily, when you're driving, When you're driving,

1262
00:55:04,653 --> 00:55:05,933
Speaker 2: you know you haven't done it for a while, But

1263
00:55:05,973 --> 00:55:08,813
Speaker 2: when you were driving, did you drive around for an

1264
00:55:08,813 --> 00:55:11,213
Speaker 2: hour and not make the minimum wage? Were you generally

1265
00:55:11,253 --> 00:55:13,453
Speaker 2: making more than the midium wage or generally making less

1266
00:55:13,453 --> 00:55:14,253
Speaker 2: than the midium wage?

1267
00:55:15,293 --> 00:55:17,853
Speaker 18: It balanced out over the time, So there might be

1268
00:55:17,933 --> 00:55:21,613
Speaker 18: times where you're definitely times where you're driving around and

1269
00:55:21,613 --> 00:55:24,933
Speaker 18: you're not like making minimum, but then you might make

1270
00:55:25,013 --> 00:55:29,413
Speaker 18: well above minimum. So for example, I did a delivery

1271
00:55:31,053 --> 00:55:34,493
Speaker 18: about it was, it was about ten o'clock at night,

1272
00:55:35,133 --> 00:55:38,453
Speaker 18: and it took me about fifteen minutes and I got

1273
00:55:38,493 --> 00:55:39,693
Speaker 18: paid just over thirty.

1274
00:55:39,453 --> 00:55:42,333
Speaker 2: Dollars, So yeah, right, yeah.

1275
00:55:42,053 --> 00:55:43,652
Speaker 18: You know. And there was another one that I got

1276
00:55:43,653 --> 00:55:45,733
Speaker 18: paid it literally took me five minutes to do when

1277
00:55:45,733 --> 00:55:49,133
Speaker 18: I bos paid twenty dollars for So you know, it

1278
00:55:49,253 --> 00:55:52,252
Speaker 18: balances itself out. There's times where you're on a boat

1279
00:55:52,293 --> 00:55:57,013
Speaker 18: you will get paid. Hey sorry, I'm at a motorbike shop.

1280
00:55:57,133 --> 00:55:58,093
Speaker 3: You're shoving for one.

1281
00:55:58,013 --> 00:56:00,172
Speaker 2: I thought you were putting around on a boat, got

1282
00:56:00,173 --> 00:56:00,653
Speaker 2: a good.

1283
00:56:00,493 --> 00:56:03,613
Speaker 18: Time, my boots broke, so I'm going to go get

1284
00:56:03,613 --> 00:56:04,333
Speaker 18: some and I heard you.

1285
00:56:04,333 --> 00:56:06,333
Speaker 14: Guys, and I was like, oh, just good on you.

1286
00:56:07,053 --> 00:56:12,653
Speaker 2: We appreciate you. And so yeah, so essentially overall, even

1287
00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:16,172
Speaker 2: doubt in your opinion, to be more than minimum wage.

1288
00:56:16,213 --> 00:56:18,453
Speaker 2: But of course then the key we saver is no

1289
00:56:18,573 --> 00:56:21,133
Speaker 2: can key we save a contribution? Did you were you

1290
00:56:21,213 --> 00:56:26,253
Speaker 2: were you organized enough to you know, get petrol back,

1291
00:56:26,453 --> 00:56:28,533
Speaker 2: you know, tax back on your petrol and the expenses

1292
00:56:28,573 --> 00:56:29,933
Speaker 2: of running the car.

1293
00:56:30,853 --> 00:56:34,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, well, Henry is really really helpful. So here's a

1294
00:56:34,213 --> 00:56:37,413
Speaker 18: company in New Zealing called Henry, and it's like, if

1295
00:56:37,493 --> 00:56:39,373
Speaker 18: you don't have any like, if you don't want to pay,

1296
00:56:39,693 --> 00:56:41,773
Speaker 18: let's say it's your side hustle you just want a

1297
00:56:41,773 --> 00:56:44,293
Speaker 18: bit of extra cash because you're a bit slow, or

1298
00:56:44,333 --> 00:56:46,293
Speaker 18: if it's your main hustle, like you can still either

1299
00:56:46,293 --> 00:56:48,973
Speaker 18: way you can use Henry, which is great because you

1300
00:56:49,053 --> 00:56:52,893
Speaker 18: basically put everything through Henry. You can you can do

1301
00:56:52,933 --> 00:56:54,453
Speaker 18: your log book through well, I don't know if you

1302
00:56:54,453 --> 00:56:56,413
Speaker 18: can do your log book, but you can upload everything

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00:56:56,533 --> 00:56:58,853
Speaker 18: there and they'll do the taxes for you and then

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00:56:58,933 --> 00:57:02,213
Speaker 18: take one like one percent charge and they don't charge you.

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00:57:02,253 --> 00:57:04,173
Speaker 18: It's not like a normal accountant. They don't charge you

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00:57:04,213 --> 00:57:07,773
Speaker 18: for a year. They charge you per transaction up to

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00:57:07,933 --> 00:57:13,013
Speaker 18: one five hundred, so you may for you Yeah, so

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00:57:13,093 --> 00:57:15,573
Speaker 18: if you made one hundred and fifty thousand dollars that ye,

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00:57:16,173 --> 00:57:18,933
Speaker 18: say you made two hundred thousand dollars that year, Henry's

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00:57:18,973 --> 00:57:22,253
Speaker 18: only going to charge you for one hundred and fifty thousand,

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00:57:22,293 --> 00:57:25,653
Speaker 18: which would be one thousand, five hundred. So their charge

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00:57:25,693 --> 00:57:28,853
Speaker 18: is really really love And basically all you do if

1313
00:57:28,893 --> 00:57:32,413
Speaker 18: you just get paid like you send them, is you

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00:57:32,493 --> 00:57:36,093
Speaker 18: send over your bank accounts for Henry and then Henry

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00:57:36,093 --> 00:57:38,213
Speaker 18: will do all of your taxes. They'll take your acc

1316
00:57:38,373 --> 00:57:41,293
Speaker 18: off like it's just basically like working a job. When

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00:57:41,293 --> 00:57:43,173
Speaker 18: you do that. The only thing is you'd have to

1318
00:57:43,173 --> 00:57:45,973
Speaker 18: be organized with your own key we saver, you could

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Speaker 18: do your own contribution. So that's you know, that's I

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00:57:48,693 --> 00:57:51,093
Speaker 18: guess the part of being a contract. You're not going

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00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:55,333
Speaker 18: to have your work and you know your work giving

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00:57:55,373 --> 00:57:59,013
Speaker 18: the money too. But I mean that's that's something that

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00:57:59,053 --> 00:58:00,693
Speaker 18: you have to decide what you wanted.

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Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, thank you so much for insight. Simily, So,

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Speaker 2: there's an Uber Eats driver who reckons don't get rid

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Speaker 2: of it. Yeah, flexibility works for her, Yeah, because because

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00:58:11,733 --> 00:58:13,133
Speaker 2: you know, it does come down to it. As we

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00:58:13,213 --> 00:58:16,813
Speaker 2: keep saying, if this what was imposed, what the Supreme

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00:58:16,853 --> 00:58:19,453
Speaker 2: Court has said was imposed on Uber, they'd just be like,

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Speaker 2: we're out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Do

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Speaker 3: you agree with Emily if you're an Uber a driver

1333
00:58:25,093 --> 00:58:26,373
Speaker 3: or you might be the other way that you're an

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00:58:26,453 --> 00:58:29,413
Speaker 3: Uber driver that thinks this is a good decision? Really?

1335
00:58:29,413 --> 00:58:31,293
Speaker 3: Can you hear from you? Nine to nine two of text.

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Speaker 2: This Texas says we need Aber drivers to drive the

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00:58:33,213 --> 00:58:36,853
Speaker 2: drunken Kiwi's home bloody drunken, lazy sods.

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Speaker 3: Kiwis Yeah, yep.

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00:58:37,773 --> 00:58:39,973
Speaker 2: Spot on taxis can do that as well.

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Speaker 1: Jus talk sai'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

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Speaker 6: It's no trouble with a blue bubble. Minister Chris Bishop

1342
00:58:49,133 --> 00:58:53,093
Speaker 6: says there's nothing unusual about his divoting funds bound for

1343
00:58:53,173 --> 00:58:56,613
Speaker 6: a cyinger or a stormwater project into funding for a

1344
00:58:56,653 --> 00:59:01,493
Speaker 6: walking and cycling bridge in his Heart South electorate. About

1345
00:59:01,533 --> 00:59:04,613
Speaker 6: twelve hundred are New Zealand cabin crew members voted to

1346
00:59:04,693 --> 00:59:09,093
Speaker 6: strike over negotiations for better pay and rosters. The search

1347
00:59:09,133 --> 00:59:12,533
Speaker 6: for a fisherman missing in Northland since Friday is scaling back,

1348
00:59:12,853 --> 00:59:17,333
Speaker 6: but daily shoreline checks are continuing. Relief at News parts

1349
00:59:17,333 --> 00:59:19,893
Speaker 6: of the South Island's major State Highway six on the

1350
00:59:19,893 --> 00:59:23,653
Speaker 6: west coast will move inland to make it resilient whatever

1351
00:59:23,733 --> 00:59:27,733
Speaker 6: the weather. Drivers and corimandel are being worn to take

1352
00:59:27,773 --> 00:59:31,653
Speaker 6: care with heavy rain forecast. State Highway twenty five A

1353
00:59:31,693 --> 00:59:35,693
Speaker 6: is reopening this afternoon, three days ahead of schedule, after

1354
00:59:35,733 --> 00:59:40,893
Speaker 6: eight days closed for storm repairs. New Zealand's been singled out,

1355
00:59:40,933 --> 00:59:44,053
Speaker 6: I should say, on the world stage for weakening our

1356
00:59:44,173 --> 00:59:48,053
Speaker 6: methane target and awarded the shameful Fossil of the Day

1357
00:59:48,133 --> 00:59:52,413
Speaker 6: award at the UN Global COP thirty Climate Summit. In

1358
00:59:52,533 --> 00:59:55,413
Speaker 6: a sea of bad polls for the government, the latest

1359
00:59:55,453 --> 00:59:59,333
Speaker 6: EPSOS Issues monitor stands out. Thomas Coglan writes about it.

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00:59:59,373 --> 01:00:01,853
Speaker 6: You can read the full column at ends at Herald Premium.

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01:00:02,053 --> 01:00:03,813
Speaker 6: Now back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Rallie. So we are talking about

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Speaker 3: the Supreme Court decision when it came to four Uber drivers.

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01:00:09,213 --> 01:00:12,493
Speaker 3: They now are employees rather than contractors. So how do

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01:00:12,533 --> 01:00:14,853
Speaker 3: you feel about this decision if it is implemented against

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01:00:14,933 --> 01:00:18,413
Speaker 3: Uber as a company, it could see them just say na, sorry,

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01:00:18,413 --> 01:00:20,053
Speaker 3: New Zealand, We're outs. So how would you feel about

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Speaker 3: the loss of Uber?

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Speaker 2: According to this text, at least one of the four

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01:00:22,733 --> 01:00:26,133
Speaker 2: Uber drivers was a union plant deliberately sent in there

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01:00:26,213 --> 01:00:29,773
Speaker 2: to gather intel, another example of unions forcing their ideals

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01:00:29,773 --> 01:00:31,773
Speaker 2: on the rest of the country. According to this text,

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01:00:32,573 --> 01:00:35,453
Speaker 2: this texture says how much tax does Uber pay in

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01:00:35,533 --> 01:00:39,773
Speaker 2: New Zealand? Well, I've just bought up this article here.

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01:00:40,373 --> 01:00:42,733
Speaker 2: Popular ride share app Uber has been accused of not

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01:00:42,773 --> 01:00:44,853
Speaker 2: paying its fair share of taxes in New Zealand and

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01:00:44,853 --> 01:00:47,493
Speaker 2: you report claims the ride share service shifted millions of

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01:00:47,533 --> 01:00:51,133
Speaker 2: dollars overseas and what it calls intercompany service fees in

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01:00:51,213 --> 01:00:53,973
Speaker 2: order to lower its New Zealand tax bill. Edward Billera,

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Speaker 2: a searcher for the Center for International Corporate Tax Accountability Research,

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01:00:57,213 --> 01:00:59,733
Speaker 2: said that the report argues the government would have missed

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01:00:59,773 --> 01:01:02,253
Speaker 2: out on tens of millions of dollars worth of corporate

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01:01:02,253 --> 01:01:06,493
Speaker 2: tax revenue. According to Uber's most recent available annual report

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01:01:06,573 --> 01:01:08,893
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three, the company made three hundred and

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01:01:08,933 --> 01:01:11,533
Speaker 2: sixty five million in revenue to this articles in twenty

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01:01:11,533 --> 01:01:14,453
Speaker 2: twenty five, but reported a profit of just four point

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Speaker 2: five million.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a good accounting.

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Speaker 2: Mother said. This is because the vast majority of the

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01:01:19,013 --> 01:01:21,973
Speaker 2: company revenue here is sent offshore as what they call

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01:01:22,053 --> 01:01:25,733
Speaker 2: into company service fees. But that money should be being

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01:01:25,813 --> 01:01:29,053
Speaker 2: booked here as corporate profits before being sent offshore as

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01:01:29,093 --> 01:01:31,253
Speaker 2: dividends to the parent company. As a result, we were

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01:01:31,253 --> 01:01:34,013
Speaker 2: paid one point two million dollars in corporate tax.

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Speaker 3: It's a good deal for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that

1396
01:01:36,333 --> 01:01:37,293
Speaker 3: information though.

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01:01:37,413 --> 01:01:39,453
Speaker 2: I don't like that. No, I don't know that part

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Speaker 2: of it.

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01:01:39,653 --> 01:01:40,773
Speaker 3: Well, I'm coughing up a bit more.

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01:01:41,013 --> 01:01:42,813
Speaker 2: Chris, you're seeing.

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01:01:42,853 --> 01:01:44,813
Speaker 17: I'm not quite sure how to follow your previous caller.

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01:01:44,893 --> 01:01:45,613
Speaker 13: She was pretty good.

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01:01:45,613 --> 01:01:48,413
Speaker 17: But I noticed that your news break add you guys

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01:01:48,413 --> 01:01:50,573
Speaker 17: are pushing Blue Bubble TAXI, So I guess you just

1405
01:01:50,613 --> 01:01:52,413
Speaker 17: talk sorready to decide which one is the right one of.

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01:01:52,373 --> 01:01:55,253
Speaker 2: The name the great people at Blue Bubble taxis.

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Speaker 17: I'm a contract. Just a real quick on that point

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01:02:03,013 --> 01:02:05,853
Speaker 17: is that my accountants always told me, if I get

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01:02:05,893 --> 01:02:09,493
Speaker 17: eighty percent of my income, I personally come from the

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01:02:09,573 --> 01:02:13,453
Speaker 17: same entity. I'm deemed to be an employer employee under

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01:02:13,453 --> 01:02:17,253
Speaker 17: the app. So I don't know whether that's factored into

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01:02:17,613 --> 01:02:21,533
Speaker 17: the fact that Uber International is paying. So when we

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01:02:21,573 --> 01:02:23,613
Speaker 17: pay an Uber, does that go to Uber or does

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01:02:23,653 --> 01:02:26,413
Speaker 17: that go to the driver's bank account and a driver

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01:02:26,533 --> 01:02:29,453
Speaker 17: then pays the premium to them or is it the

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01:02:29,453 --> 01:02:33,093
Speaker 17: other way around? So maybe that flicked into the factor

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01:02:33,173 --> 01:02:35,453
Speaker 17: somewhere and maybe that's why the app needs to be changed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, say, because Uber just argues we're just a digital platform.

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01:02:40,253 --> 01:02:43,773
Speaker 2: We're not an employer, and the drivers just just sign

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01:02:43,813 --> 01:02:45,293
Speaker 2: up to this digital part. But it's kind of the

1421
01:02:45,293 --> 01:02:48,773
Speaker 2: same argument that Facebook has that we're not we're not

1422
01:02:49,093 --> 01:02:51,373
Speaker 2: printing news people are putting this stuff up here. We're

1423
01:02:51,413 --> 01:02:53,813
Speaker 2: just we're just a platform that people use. We just

1424
01:02:53,933 --> 01:02:56,253
Speaker 2: set up the systems and people use it. So that's

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Speaker 2: their argument.

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01:02:57,813 --> 01:03:01,773
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's fun and if they didn't sort of change

1427
01:03:01,773 --> 01:03:05,853
Speaker 17: their model. I'm in Wellington and then every Uber driver

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01:03:05,973 --> 01:03:08,053
Speaker 17: I get a ride with, you know, like the airport,

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01:03:08,093 --> 01:03:10,693
Speaker 17: it's it's eighty or ninety bucks, et cetera. They tell

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Speaker 17: me to start using d d ID I. So it's

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01:03:14,533 --> 01:03:18,173
Speaker 17: the same driver, but the driver gets more and it's

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01:03:18,213 --> 01:03:21,213
Speaker 17: about twenty dollars cheaper for the journey.

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Speaker 2: Right, And as the idea is that because I mean

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01:03:25,213 --> 01:03:28,093
Speaker 2: that there is a possibility. Yeah, I mean, I guess

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01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:31,533
Speaker 2: the thing in this wider issue here is those ride

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01:03:31,573 --> 01:03:34,493
Speaker 2: sharing platforms, even if they pay the drivers more or less,

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01:03:34,973 --> 01:03:39,333
Speaker 2: they are still operating in the area of not being employees,

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01:03:39,613 --> 01:03:44,173
Speaker 2: playing minimum wage and paying Kiwi Saver and all those

1439
01:03:44,253 --> 01:03:48,533
Speaker 2: kind of things. So if this did this, if this

1440
01:03:48,653 --> 01:03:52,173
Speaker 2: Supreme Court thing goes down as the way it could,

1441
01:03:52,613 --> 01:03:55,573
Speaker 2: then that all go, wouldn't they? But I'm not familiar

1442
01:03:55,573 --> 01:03:56,933
Speaker 2: with did.

1443
01:03:56,653 --> 01:03:58,453
Speaker 17: Was it d It's a New Zealing company.

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01:03:58,453 --> 01:03:59,573
Speaker 13: It's sort of an easy entity.

1445
01:04:00,213 --> 01:04:02,413
Speaker 17: So the drivers tell me they get more money, so

1446
01:04:02,453 --> 01:04:06,173
Speaker 17: I don't know whether it's the minimum wage, and the

1447
01:04:06,293 --> 01:04:09,013
Speaker 17: journey is cheaper, so I think the cut that the

1448
01:04:09,133 --> 01:04:12,213
Speaker 17: parent entity takes or the employee entity which will where

1449
01:04:12,253 --> 01:04:14,013
Speaker 17: we want to use is less.

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01:04:14,413 --> 01:04:17,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so it's better off for the drive like that.

1451
01:04:17,773 --> 01:04:19,653
Speaker 2: And if there I mean, I don't know, I don't know,

1452
01:04:19,813 --> 01:04:22,973
Speaker 2: I look up, but if they are a New Zealand company,

1453
01:04:23,013 --> 01:04:25,293
Speaker 2: then you know, hopefully they're paying their corporate tax in

1454
01:04:25,333 --> 01:04:26,973
Speaker 2: New Zealand as well, rather than just sending it all

1455
01:04:27,013 --> 01:04:27,533
Speaker 2: over the seas.

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01:04:27,613 --> 01:04:27,813
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1457
01:04:28,293 --> 01:04:30,293
Speaker 17: I mean, I've used them and they are cheaper from

1458
01:04:30,293 --> 01:04:32,093
Speaker 17: my house to get all the way dwelling the airport

1459
01:04:32,133 --> 01:04:32,733
Speaker 17: around the place.

1460
01:04:32,773 --> 01:04:34,053
Speaker 13: So for me it's great.

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01:04:34,333 --> 01:04:36,293
Speaker 17: And if the drivers are telling me they get more money,

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01:04:36,573 --> 01:04:38,613
Speaker 17: I guess they're not really lying, are they. I don't know,

1463
01:04:38,813 --> 01:04:39,693
Speaker 17: but it's a good.

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01:04:39,533 --> 01:04:41,533
Speaker 3: Thing to use. But yeah, just back to Matt's point,

1465
01:04:41,773 --> 01:04:43,893
Speaker 3: and I think that's quite correct that if the Supreme

1466
01:04:43,933 --> 01:04:47,253
Speaker 3: Court ruling gets enacted and passed on to but then

1467
01:04:47,733 --> 01:04:51,013
Speaker 3: unfortunately D D or d I d I it is

1468
01:04:51,093 --> 01:04:52,893
Speaker 3: under the same camp they would have to wrap up.

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01:04:52,973 --> 01:04:56,133
Speaker 2: The idea is not a New Zealand company. They're in Argentina, Australia, Brazil, sure,

1470
01:04:56,133 --> 01:05:01,213
Speaker 2: they Colombia, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Egypt, Japan, just just a

1471
01:05:01,253 --> 01:05:06,373
Speaker 2: few places there are Mexico, it's a night Peru, Dominican Republic.

1472
01:05:06,413 --> 01:05:09,213
Speaker 2: So they're a global company as well, probably sending seending

1473
01:05:09,293 --> 01:05:11,813
Speaker 2: just as much Court protects overseas as well.

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01:05:11,853 --> 01:05:15,773
Speaker 3: Could you say Columbia again, Columbia? That was beautiful mate,

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01:05:15,773 --> 01:05:18,293
Speaker 3: Thanks like that. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty Yeah,

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01:05:18,333 --> 01:05:20,653
Speaker 3: God on modern family, I can tell eight hundred eighty

1477
01:05:20,653 --> 01:05:22,373
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call if you are

1478
01:05:22,413 --> 01:05:24,573
Speaker 3: an Uber driver. How do you feel about this decision

1479
01:05:24,573 --> 01:05:26,733
Speaker 3: from the Supreme Court. It's nineteen to three.

1480
01:05:27,293 --> 01:05:30,333
Speaker 1: A fresh take on took Back. It's Matt Heathen Taylor

1481
01:05:30,373 --> 01:05:34,053
Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons have your say on eight hundred eighty ten

1482
01:05:34,133 --> 01:05:35,373
Speaker 1: eighty US talks.

1483
01:05:35,093 --> 01:05:37,813
Speaker 3: eNB seventeen to three, Plenty of teachs coming through on

1484
01:05:37,853 --> 01:05:38,933
Speaker 3: nine two nine two D.

1485
01:05:39,053 --> 01:05:41,413
Speaker 2: D is a little brother and Mandarin Oh nice. DD

1486
01:05:41,853 --> 01:05:45,773
Speaker 2: is a global company headquartered in Beijing, China. DD is

1487
01:05:45,853 --> 01:05:47,493
Speaker 2: China owned. So yeah, it's not a it's not a

1488
01:05:47,733 --> 01:05:48,653
Speaker 2: little keyw we Betler.

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01:05:48,693 --> 01:05:51,253
Speaker 3: That is unfortunate. I was so tough to hear that

1490
01:05:51,373 --> 01:05:53,573
Speaker 3: we Chris hit it. But certainly it's not the true.

1491
01:05:54,013 --> 01:05:55,893
Speaker 2: There is no eighty percent rule in New Zealand that

1492
01:05:56,013 --> 01:05:58,453
Speaker 2: says you're automatically employee if eighty percent of your income

1493
01:05:58,453 --> 01:06:00,413
Speaker 2: comes from one source. The test is used in places

1494
01:06:00,413 --> 01:06:02,653
Speaker 2: like Australia in the UK, but not New Zealand. Status

1495
01:06:02,693 --> 01:06:04,453
Speaker 2: is an employee or a contractor is based on the

1496
01:06:04,533 --> 01:06:08,053
Speaker 2: legal relationship and how the work has actually done. Courts

1497
01:06:08,053 --> 01:06:11,773
Speaker 2: look control integration, economic reality and the intention of the

1498
01:06:11,773 --> 01:06:16,693
Speaker 2: parties and not just the income levels or accounting figures. Yeah,

1499
01:06:16,933 --> 01:06:19,173
Speaker 2: so that that that that was the problem that the

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01:06:19,213 --> 01:06:22,813
Speaker 2: Supreme Court found that Uber exodes very close control over

1501
01:06:22,893 --> 01:06:25,773
Speaker 2: roots performance and the entire period drivers were a lot

1502
01:06:25,853 --> 01:06:27,893
Speaker 2: over the entire period. The drivers are logged into the app.

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01:06:28,453 --> 01:06:30,653
Speaker 2: Drivers couldn't influence their pay or how much work they

1504
01:06:30,693 --> 01:06:36,533
Speaker 2: were offered, and couldn't build their own businesses or good will. Elizabeth,

1505
01:06:37,053 --> 01:06:48,973
Speaker 2: you've driven ubers for a while, Elizabeth, Okay, Hello Lizzie, Lizzie, No, no.

1506
01:06:48,413 --> 01:06:50,373
Speaker 3: Hello there she is? How are you?

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01:06:51,413 --> 01:06:52,173
Speaker 12: Yeah? Thank you?

1508
01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:55,813
Speaker 3: Right, talk to us. You've been an Uber driver here.

1509
01:06:57,213 --> 01:07:01,813
Speaker 12: In close shut all much since it started. Uh, I've

1510
01:07:01,893 --> 01:07:05,933
Speaker 12: seen some good times, but the last few years, probably

1511
01:07:06,013 --> 01:07:09,453
Speaker 12: since covid or actually even last year when they introduced

1512
01:07:09,613 --> 01:07:10,653
Speaker 12: r C on the ride.

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01:07:11,733 --> 01:07:12,093
Speaker 2: You know what?

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01:07:12,173 --> 01:07:12,453
Speaker 8: Sorry?

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01:07:12,493 --> 01:07:15,733
Speaker 2: What was that? Sorry?

1516
01:07:15,533 --> 01:07:22,133
Speaker 12: They introduced us on the ride Uber. Uber hit the

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01:07:22,213 --> 01:07:24,693
Speaker 12: drivers with a ten percent service fee. It used to

1518
01:07:24,733 --> 01:07:28,213
Speaker 12: be fifty percent. Now it's ten percent of every fere

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01:07:28,373 --> 01:07:33,773
Speaker 12: So effectively, if I'm chesty registered, so I'm paying thirty

1520
01:07:33,813 --> 01:07:39,213
Speaker 12: eight percent of everything I earn. And in the last

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01:07:39,533 --> 01:07:44,213
Speaker 12: probably three to four months, I've been averaging fifteen dollars

1522
01:07:44,213 --> 01:07:46,693
Speaker 12: an hour. Now you might ask why I have gone

1523
01:07:47,253 --> 01:07:50,973
Speaker 12: look for another dob, and you know that's pay.

1524
01:07:52,373 --> 01:07:52,733
Speaker 8: Accident.

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01:07:53,653 --> 01:07:57,453
Speaker 12: I've got a disability and I can't stand long and

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01:07:57,973 --> 01:08:00,653
Speaker 12: the fruit. And I don't see why I should be

1527
01:08:00,693 --> 01:08:08,933
Speaker 12: penalized just because you know, Uber thinks that fifteen dollars

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01:08:08,973 --> 01:08:13,973
Speaker 12: an acceptable hourly rate for a female and out of

1529
01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:18,293
Speaker 12: my cost come. Yeah, And it didn't used to be

1530
01:08:18,333 --> 01:08:19,053
Speaker 12: as bad.

1531
01:08:18,813 --> 01:08:22,572
Speaker 2: But it is now, So females and males get paid

1532
01:08:22,613 --> 01:08:25,013
Speaker 2: the same. Uber doesn't care what sis you are.

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01:08:26,173 --> 01:08:28,133
Speaker 12: Well, they don't care what this you are, but they

1534
01:08:28,133 --> 01:08:30,972
Speaker 12: certainly don't give you the same earnings opportunities. And if

1535
01:08:30,973 --> 01:08:33,452
Speaker 12: you don't believe me, I suggest I don't know, but

1536
01:08:33,492 --> 01:08:36,132
Speaker 12: if you don't believe me, I suggest you do something aggains.

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01:08:36,692 --> 01:08:40,293
Speaker 12: Go online and google it and you'll see this being

1538
01:08:40,372 --> 01:08:43,452
Speaker 12: studies done out of America, and they've been caught out

1539
01:08:43,492 --> 01:08:45,412
Speaker 12: on it, and they say, oh wow.

1540
01:08:45,412 --> 01:08:47,692
Speaker 2: Why would they do that? What would be the advantage?

1541
01:08:47,853 --> 01:08:50,333
Speaker 2: I mean, Uber doesn't care who's making the money for them.

1542
01:08:51,293 --> 01:08:54,093
Speaker 2: Their algorithm is anti anti woman.

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01:08:55,492 --> 01:08:58,652
Speaker 12: Well, I do the same hour as me and that

1544
01:08:58,812 --> 01:09:01,532
Speaker 12: I sit next to at the airport exactly the same hour,

1545
01:09:02,452 --> 01:09:06,492
Speaker 12: and nowhere do I get the same money. I've got

1546
01:09:06,612 --> 01:09:09,412
Speaker 12: probably a higher rating the most of them. I've been

1547
01:09:09,452 --> 01:09:14,613
Speaker 12: with the Suber longest, and I've got a safe history.

1548
01:09:15,772 --> 01:09:18,492
Speaker 3: I've never heard that before. Yeah, I mean, look, you know,

1549
01:09:18,532 --> 01:09:20,572
Speaker 3: the argument is around the leader.

1550
01:09:22,053 --> 01:09:24,372
Speaker 12: You need to do some digging. Women do not get

1551
01:09:24,452 --> 01:09:25,053
Speaker 12: paid the same.

1552
01:09:25,772 --> 01:09:28,572
Speaker 2: Well, Elizabeth, you want to you want to drive. At

1553
01:09:28,572 --> 01:09:30,093
Speaker 2: the moment, it sounded like you were you were on

1554
01:09:30,133 --> 01:09:30,892
Speaker 2: a job at the moment.

1555
01:09:32,013 --> 01:09:33,092
Speaker 12: I'm just picking up someone.

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01:09:33,133 --> 01:09:35,892
Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to let you go. Best of like, Elizabeth,

1557
01:09:35,973 --> 01:09:38,053
Speaker 2: you go well out there. I mean, I'd find it

1558
01:09:38,173 --> 01:09:40,013
Speaker 2: very I mean, all the best to you, Elizabeth. And

1559
01:09:40,173 --> 01:09:42,412
Speaker 2: and that's that's no good if you're not feeling like

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01:09:42,492 --> 01:09:44,692
Speaker 2: you're earning enough doing it and you don't have any

1561
01:09:44,692 --> 01:09:48,572
Speaker 2: other options because your disability. So definitely thoughts with you, Elizabeth,

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01:09:48,612 --> 01:09:51,852
Speaker 2: But that would be very odd. And I can't see

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01:09:51,853 --> 01:09:55,692
Speaker 2: any advantage in all and Uber deciding that it wants men.

1564
01:09:56,133 --> 01:09:58,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, any more than they care. A driver is a

1565
01:09:58,452 --> 01:10:01,013
Speaker 3: driver to them if someone is taking it on.

1566
01:10:01,133 --> 01:10:03,612
Speaker 2: In fact, they're in games to get rid of drivers altogether.

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01:10:03,732 --> 01:10:04,372
Speaker 3: It's a good point.

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01:10:05,053 --> 01:10:06,452
Speaker 2: If anything, they're anti human.

1569
01:10:07,772 --> 01:10:10,133
Speaker 3: Matthias, How are you other?

1570
01:10:10,133 --> 01:10:10,293
Speaker 2: Good?

1571
01:10:10,293 --> 01:10:10,532
Speaker 5: Thanks?

1572
01:10:10,572 --> 01:10:11,452
Speaker 12: Guys? How are you guys?

1573
01:10:11,652 --> 01:10:11,892
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1574
01:10:11,933 --> 01:10:14,492
Speaker 3: Good? You reckon? This is a bad decision from the

1575
01:10:14,492 --> 01:10:15,093
Speaker 3: Supreme Court.

1576
01:10:16,933 --> 01:10:20,652
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that's what I believe, you know, for something

1577
01:10:20,732 --> 01:10:23,532
Speaker 5: like this and how large it is in New Zealand.

1578
01:10:24,333 --> 01:10:26,852
Speaker 5: They're always going to be flow on consequences and they're

1579
01:10:26,893 --> 01:10:31,532
Speaker 5: not always going to be good, just only tuned in earlier.

1580
01:10:32,612 --> 01:10:37,012
Speaker 5: And has anyone actually heard Uber say that if things

1581
01:10:37,133 --> 01:10:40,013
Speaker 5: change and they have to classify drivers as employees that

1582
01:10:40,053 --> 01:10:42,933
Speaker 5: they will leave. Is that confirmed or are we just

1583
01:10:42,933 --> 01:10:43,772
Speaker 5: speculating here?

1584
01:10:43,893 --> 01:10:46,293
Speaker 2: Well, they definitely will. There's no need to speculate about it.

1585
01:10:46,293 --> 01:10:49,132
Speaker 2: They will. This is their platform. It's a global platform,

1586
01:10:49,173 --> 01:10:50,772
Speaker 2: it's the way they make their money around the world,

1587
01:10:50,772 --> 01:10:53,692
Speaker 2: and they've only just started being profitable in recent years.

1588
01:10:53,893 --> 01:10:56,972
Speaker 2: So they're not gonna They're not going to shift things

1589
01:10:56,973 --> 01:10:59,253
Speaker 2: around for New Zealand. We're too smaller and it's too

1590
01:10:59,253 --> 01:11:00,933
Speaker 2: small a market for them.

1591
01:11:01,253 --> 01:11:05,172
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right. So first and foremost from the Supreme

1592
01:11:05,213 --> 01:11:08,972
Speaker 5: Court's decision is the company like Uber has lost interest

1593
01:11:10,372 --> 01:11:15,852
Speaker 5: in the market and they leave, Well, that's bad. So

1594
01:11:15,893 --> 01:11:20,732
Speaker 5: you're going to get taxi companies already established here. They're

1595
01:11:20,732 --> 01:11:25,452
Speaker 5: going to well keep retain their high pricing, so less

1596
01:11:25,492 --> 01:11:28,652
Speaker 5: people are going to be using taxi services. So what

1597
01:11:28,772 --> 01:11:31,173
Speaker 5: happens then you get drunk drivers all over the place

1598
01:11:31,213 --> 01:11:33,452
Speaker 5: because they don't want to pay for exorbitant taxi fares,

1599
01:11:34,013 --> 01:11:37,572
Speaker 5: you get car crashes and injuries and deaths, and then

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01:11:37,652 --> 01:11:40,133
Speaker 5: what so you drop forty thousand Uber drivers and put

1601
01:11:40,133 --> 01:11:44,452
Speaker 5: them in the unemployment market market. The government's already struggling

1602
01:11:44,893 --> 01:11:49,412
Speaker 5: to pay beneficiaries and supernutans and things. So what so,

1603
01:11:49,853 --> 01:11:51,893
Speaker 5: you know, I mean, how old are these guys on

1604
01:11:51,973 --> 01:11:53,933
Speaker 5: Supreme Court. There's more than one judge, I know, but

1605
01:11:53,973 --> 01:11:56,333
Speaker 5: it sounds like they need to be admitted to dementia

1606
01:11:56,652 --> 01:11:58,213
Speaker 5: dementia unit of the nursing home.

1607
01:11:58,652 --> 01:12:00,293
Speaker 3: Yeah well, I mean, look that as part of the

1608
01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:02,253
Speaker 3: problem with thighs. But I met, you know, I don't

1609
01:12:02,253 --> 01:12:04,532
Speaker 3: know about these judges on the Supreme Court. But the

1610
01:12:04,572 --> 01:12:08,052
Speaker 3: way that our employment laws are drafted, they were drafted

1611
01:12:08,093 --> 01:12:10,732
Speaker 3: some time ago and things have drastically changed when it

1612
01:12:10,732 --> 01:12:13,533
Speaker 3: comes to the employment market, the so called gig economy,

1613
01:12:13,772 --> 01:12:16,692
Speaker 3: and so the law has not kept pace and they

1614
01:12:16,772 --> 01:12:19,333
Speaker 3: have passed down this judgment according to the laws that

1615
01:12:19,372 --> 01:12:23,253
Speaker 3: were written probably twenty thirty years ago. But clearly they

1616
01:12:23,253 --> 01:12:26,053
Speaker 3: need updating, right, And you're right, the unintended consequences of

1617
01:12:26,093 --> 01:12:28,772
Speaker 3: a company like Kuber deciding to upsticks and leave the

1618
01:12:28,772 --> 01:12:30,932
Speaker 3: New Zealand market will be severe.

1619
01:12:32,492 --> 01:12:37,412
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, very much. So I used to drive Uber

1620
01:12:37,532 --> 01:12:41,612
Speaker 5: and as a contractor, that was just it was like

1621
01:12:41,652 --> 01:12:44,732
Speaker 5: the dream. Wake up whenever you like work, whenever you

1622
01:12:44,893 --> 01:12:46,612
Speaker 5: like work for three hours, stop for two hours, go

1623
01:12:46,612 --> 01:12:49,412
Speaker 5: back for another six, drop a day, drop a week,

1624
01:12:49,532 --> 01:12:53,093
Speaker 5: do anything you like. And I was averaging, Yes, some

1625
01:12:53,213 --> 01:12:55,532
Speaker 5: jobs are better than averaging thirty dollars an hour back

1626
01:12:55,572 --> 01:12:57,772
Speaker 5: in twenty eighty ninety and that was good. And then

1627
01:12:57,812 --> 01:13:02,013
Speaker 5: you get to claim back your fuel expenses, your insurance expenses,

1628
01:13:02,532 --> 01:13:06,532
Speaker 5: you know, just any expense against your tax and things.

1629
01:13:06,572 --> 01:13:09,932
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean anyway, and it thinks they're entitled

1630
01:13:10,053 --> 01:13:14,932
Speaker 5: enough to get paid a wage, and then what want

1631
01:13:14,973 --> 01:13:19,572
Speaker 5: to become an employee isn't thinking ahead. They've got no

1632
01:13:19,652 --> 01:13:23,852
Speaker 5: foresight and don't understand the flow on effects. So that's

1633
01:13:23,933 --> 01:13:24,492
Speaker 5: my opinion.

1634
01:13:24,652 --> 01:13:26,572
Speaker 2: We thank you so much for your opinion. I wonder

1635
01:13:26,612 --> 01:13:29,333
Speaker 2: if Uber did pull out of the market, because taxis

1636
01:13:29,333 --> 01:13:32,253
Speaker 2: were very slow to take up the technology until Uber

1637
01:13:32,293 --> 01:13:34,932
Speaker 2: came in. Taxi companies, but they have got there now, yeah,

1638
01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:37,412
Speaker 2: so they have their apps and such. I wonder if

1639
01:13:37,412 --> 01:13:42,692
Speaker 2: it's the taxi industry would step up and fill the

1640
01:13:42,692 --> 01:13:46,092
Speaker 2: gap and be I mean, it'll be more expensive ordibly

1641
01:13:46,532 --> 01:13:50,492
Speaker 2: and harder to get a ride at three am, But

1642
01:13:51,173 --> 01:13:51,652
Speaker 2: you know, be.

1643
01:13:51,692 --> 01:13:53,852
Speaker 3: An interesting question. Yeah, if you're a taxi driver, how

1644
01:13:53,853 --> 01:13:55,732
Speaker 3: do you feel about this? I waighte hundred eighty ten eighty.

1645
01:13:56,253 --> 01:13:57,892
Speaker 3: We're going to take a quick break, but come back

1646
01:13:57,893 --> 01:14:00,133
Speaker 3: with more of your calls and text very shortly eight

1647
01:14:00,133 --> 01:14:00,652
Speaker 3: to three.

1648
01:14:01,452 --> 01:14:03,892
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun

1649
01:14:03,933 --> 01:14:08,133
Speaker 1: along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

1650
01:14:07,812 --> 01:14:11,333
Speaker 3: They'd be news talk zed be it is five minutes

1651
01:14:11,372 --> 01:14:11,932
Speaker 3: to three.

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01:14:12,213 --> 01:14:14,852
Speaker 2: The sexers said, why did you two men cut Elizabeth

1653
01:14:14,973 --> 01:14:17,333
Speaker 2: off like that and immediately not believe her. Perhaps you

1654
01:14:17,333 --> 01:14:20,093
Speaker 2: should have said you would look into her claims and

1655
01:14:20,133 --> 01:14:22,732
Speaker 2: then form an opinion. What a bizarre text. She had

1656
01:14:22,732 --> 01:14:23,572
Speaker 2: a job to go to.

1657
01:14:23,973 --> 01:14:26,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was earning money. It was tough times for Elizabeth.

1658
01:14:26,772 --> 01:14:29,333
Speaker 2: Get on with the show. She was pulling up. She said,

1659
01:14:29,412 --> 01:14:31,812
Speaker 2: I've got a job. She was not. We could hear

1660
01:14:31,853 --> 01:14:34,293
Speaker 2: it in the background because she'd arrived and she had

1661
01:14:34,293 --> 01:14:37,053
Speaker 2: to get a job. What does our gender have to

1662
01:14:37,093 --> 01:14:40,572
Speaker 2: do with her having a passenger getting into her uber

1663
01:14:41,053 --> 01:14:42,293
Speaker 2: What a weird text.

1664
01:14:42,532 --> 01:14:43,933
Speaker 3: Strange people out there, Man's the.

1665
01:14:44,053 --> 01:14:48,013
Speaker 2: Goddamn Muppet show out there, as for this. On that

1666
01:14:48,053 --> 01:14:50,532
Speaker 2: same issue, studies have shown that female Uber drivers generally

1667
01:14:50,572 --> 01:14:54,053
Speaker 2: earn about seven percent less than their male counterparts. This

1668
01:14:54,253 --> 01:14:56,412
Speaker 2: pay gap is not due to discrimination by the Uber

1669
01:14:56,452 --> 01:15:00,213
Speaker 2: platform itself or customers, but is entirely attributed to differences

1670
01:15:00,213 --> 01:15:03,852
Speaker 2: in driver behavior and preferences. Key factors contributing to the

1671
01:15:03,933 --> 01:15:06,652
Speaker 2: Ernie's gap include experienced male drivers tend to drive for

1672
01:15:06,732 --> 01:15:10,532
Speaker 2: longer periods and more our per week, allowing them to

1673
01:15:10,532 --> 01:15:14,853
Speaker 2: gain more experience and learn profitable strategies like strategic ride cancelations,

1674
01:15:14,973 --> 01:15:18,532
Speaker 2: driving speed. Men to drive faster than women, about two

1675
01:15:18,572 --> 01:15:21,133
Speaker 2: point two percent faster, which results in higher earnings when

1676
01:15:21,173 --> 01:15:25,253
Speaker 2: payers based on distance traveled rather than time, location and timing,

1677
01:15:25,293 --> 01:15:28,412
Speaker 2: Men and women tend to choose different times and locations

1678
01:15:28,412 --> 01:15:32,532
Speaker 2: to drive. For example, men more often choose lucrative late

1679
01:15:32,612 --> 01:15:35,692
Speaker 2: night or early morning shifts and airport runs. The gap

1680
01:15:35,772 --> 01:15:38,572
Speaker 2: pay gap arises from these gender based preferences and constraints

1681
01:15:38,572 --> 01:15:41,492
Speaker 2: related to work hours, location, and restolance. Even in a

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01:15:41,492 --> 01:15:46,133
Speaker 2: gig economy setting with no direct gender discrimination in the

1683
01:15:46,173 --> 01:15:46,812
Speaker 2: pay formula.

1684
01:15:47,133 --> 01:15:49,772
Speaker 3: That is, that is a deep dive, thank you very much.

1685
01:15:50,093 --> 01:15:51,812
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of logic in that, right,

1686
01:15:51,853 --> 01:15:53,412
Speaker 3: We're going to carry it on because we've got full

1687
01:15:53,452 --> 01:15:55,412
Speaker 3: boards and so many people have text through. But love

1688
01:15:55,452 --> 01:15:57,093
Speaker 3: to hear your thoughts of one hundred and eighty ten

1689
01:15:57,173 --> 01:15:58,892
Speaker 3: eighty after three. We're gonna have a check to an

1690
01:15:58,933 --> 01:16:01,812
Speaker 3: Uber driver in nine years. He reckons it's a good ruling, Tyler.

1691
01:16:01,973 --> 01:16:04,452
Speaker 2: Why you as a man are you going to the

1692
01:16:04,492 --> 01:16:07,532
Speaker 2: news now? As a man? Why are you going to

1693
01:16:07,572 --> 01:16:08,053
Speaker 2: the news now?

1694
01:16:08,053 --> 01:16:09,053
Speaker 3: Because men rule the world?

1695
01:16:09,133 --> 01:16:16,692
Speaker 1: Mate, Jesus, your new home are instateful and entertaining talk

1696
01:16:16,933 --> 01:16:21,532
Speaker 1: It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons on news Talk Sevy.

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01:16:22,093 --> 01:16:24,973
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons you seven past three, welcome back in and

1698
01:16:25,013 --> 01:16:27,772
Speaker 3: we're carrying on the discussion about the Supreme Court ruling

1699
01:16:28,053 --> 01:16:30,892
Speaker 3: for four Uber drivers who are now employees rather than

1700
01:16:30,893 --> 01:16:34,412
Speaker 3: contractors that could have wide ranging ramifications for rights here

1701
01:16:34,492 --> 01:16:35,212
Speaker 3: in New Zealand.

1702
01:16:35,732 --> 01:16:38,133
Speaker 2: The Sex says the market will move as it always has.

1703
01:16:38,133 --> 01:16:40,772
Speaker 2: Every decision will create an opportunity. Well that's true, that

1704
01:16:40,973 --> 01:16:44,412
Speaker 2: is true. You know, anytime something major happens, then things

1705
01:16:44,452 --> 01:16:48,213
Speaker 2: move around and something else pops up. If uberlieves New Zealand,

1706
01:16:48,253 --> 01:16:50,333
Speaker 2: anyone could start the same kind of business, Well no,

1707
01:16:50,412 --> 01:16:55,253
Speaker 2: they can't because if U believe because they can't run

1708
01:16:55,333 --> 01:16:58,412
Speaker 2: the business like they want to run it with basically

1709
01:16:58,452 --> 01:17:00,372
Speaker 2: as a platform where people jump to the cars and

1710
01:17:00,412 --> 01:17:02,333
Speaker 2: then in their own time, and they don't get paid

1711
01:17:02,372 --> 01:17:05,532
Speaker 2: minimum rage and they don't get Kiwi, saber, et cetera.

1712
01:17:06,492 --> 01:17:09,892
Speaker 2: Then all companies that try and do that well won't

1713
01:17:09,893 --> 01:17:13,053
Speaker 2: be able to do it. And it's hard enough for

1714
01:17:13,133 --> 01:17:14,372
Speaker 2: Uber to make a profit pretty much.

1715
01:17:14,452 --> 01:17:17,133
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're basically talking about taxi companies which already exist

1716
01:17:17,173 --> 01:17:17,732
Speaker 3: in New Zealand.

1717
01:17:17,732 --> 01:17:21,492
Speaker 2: Of course Uber had, I had yesterday, Uber had yesterday.

1718
01:17:21,532 --> 01:17:24,812
Speaker 2: Guy was happy as wife, works full time and he's

1719
01:17:24,812 --> 01:17:27,012
Speaker 2: flexy enough to pick up kids from school, et cetera.

1720
01:17:27,053 --> 01:17:29,253
Speaker 2: Big bulls come in and he will do a Sunday

1721
01:17:29,293 --> 01:17:33,492
Speaker 2: his choice unions being dickheads again like the Green Party,

1722
01:17:33,812 --> 01:17:37,612
Speaker 2: which we wish we had Uber on. Wahiki love the show.

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01:17:37,732 --> 01:17:39,572
Speaker 2: Keep it up, lads. That's from Baldric.

1724
01:17:39,652 --> 01:17:44,132
Speaker 3: Oh great name, Bulldrick Baldrick from Blackadder. Yeah, fantastic character,

1725
01:17:44,213 --> 01:17:45,652
Speaker 3: fantastic man, fantastic man.

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01:17:45,732 --> 01:17:47,892
Speaker 2: See it's the guy that played Baldrick coming to New Zealand.

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01:17:47,973 --> 01:17:48,412
Speaker 1: He is.

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01:17:48,572 --> 01:17:49,132
Speaker 3: I saw.

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01:17:51,412 --> 01:17:52,572
Speaker 2: Phil robertson.

1730
01:17:54,133 --> 01:17:56,493
Speaker 3: Sher Bloody know this. I've seen some of his documentaries

1731
01:17:56,492 --> 01:18:01,652
Speaker 3: that he's done. Tony Robinson, Tony Robinson, Yeah, yeah, great man.

1732
01:18:02,093 --> 01:18:03,972
Speaker 2: Bulldrick Bulldrock's coming to New Zealand.

1733
01:18:03,973 --> 01:18:04,532
Speaker 3: I'll go see you.

1734
01:18:04,612 --> 01:18:07,892
Speaker 2: But that's a different one. Pin too, welcome to the show.

1735
01:18:07,933 --> 01:18:10,092
Speaker 2: You've been in Driver for nine years? Is that correct?

1736
01:18:11,173 --> 01:18:11,372
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1737
01:18:11,412 --> 01:18:13,293
Speaker 14: Around seven eight years? Yeah?

1738
01:18:14,372 --> 01:18:17,892
Speaker 3: And uh and what's your thoughts on this decision? Pin too?

1739
01:18:17,973 --> 01:18:19,692
Speaker 3: You're you're not happy with it? R No, you think

1740
01:18:19,692 --> 01:18:20,492
Speaker 3: the role in is good.

1741
01:18:22,253 --> 01:18:25,652
Speaker 14: It's a mixed mixed to the sir. I love I

1742
01:18:25,692 --> 01:18:30,892
Speaker 14: love driving for Uber. It's a good flexibility, but Uber

1743
01:18:31,053 --> 01:18:35,333
Speaker 14: plays the major role. Like they don't allow other companies

1744
01:18:35,372 --> 01:18:37,293
Speaker 14: to be in the market, like we've got a Zuomi

1745
01:18:37,372 --> 01:18:41,652
Speaker 14: default New Zealand company. They didn't. Yeah, they tried to

1746
01:18:41,652 --> 01:18:44,612
Speaker 14: be in the market for a few years, but they

1747
01:18:44,652 --> 01:18:46,333
Speaker 14: can't stand with Uber, you know.

1748
01:18:46,692 --> 01:18:48,293
Speaker 8: M Yeah, because what.

1749
01:18:48,492 --> 01:18:50,892
Speaker 2: Over tends to do, don't they pinto in. A lot

1750
01:18:50,893 --> 01:18:53,093
Speaker 2: of companies with a bit of backing will do that.

1751
01:18:53,173 --> 01:18:58,492
Speaker 2: They'll just lower prices and become incredibly expensive, you know,

1752
01:18:58,812 --> 01:19:01,293
Speaker 2: and spend a lot of money to until they get

1753
01:19:01,572 --> 01:19:03,532
Speaker 2: the competition out of the market and then the prices

1754
01:19:03,532 --> 01:19:03,892
Speaker 2: go up.

1755
01:19:05,013 --> 01:19:09,052
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, you're right, I absolutely agree because the Uber

1756
01:19:09,133 --> 01:19:13,253
Speaker 14: has got a very good market study research and experts

1757
01:19:13,293 --> 01:19:16,652
Speaker 14: who knows how to you know, at at in the

1758
01:19:16,692 --> 01:19:21,532
Speaker 14: particular situation, what time of the day the prize, you know,

1759
01:19:21,692 --> 01:19:24,572
Speaker 14: the Uber prize go up, what time it should be low?

1760
01:19:24,732 --> 01:19:28,172
Speaker 14: What time? You know, they know everything, and it works

1761
01:19:28,213 --> 01:19:32,492
Speaker 14: for the drivers. But some there is some dark side

1762
01:19:32,492 --> 01:19:35,612
Speaker 14: of the Uber as well. You know, it's very good.

1763
01:19:35,652 --> 01:19:38,612
Speaker 14: Flextivity is good, but it's not for the anxed culture.

1764
01:19:38,732 --> 01:19:39,333
Speaker 14: That's the thing.

1765
01:19:40,933 --> 01:19:43,132
Speaker 3: What do you mean by that, the injured culture.

1766
01:19:44,492 --> 01:19:47,612
Speaker 14: I will tell you my story. I'm driving in a

1767
01:19:47,933 --> 01:19:49,933
Speaker 14: like a pre S car. Like you know, most of

1768
01:19:49,933 --> 01:19:54,133
Speaker 14: the Uber drivers got a pre S before. Yeah. Now,

1769
01:19:54,253 --> 01:19:58,652
Speaker 14: one year back, Uber told them that if you if

1770
01:19:58,692 --> 01:20:01,972
Speaker 14: you drive in electric car, we will give you four

1771
01:20:02,053 --> 01:20:05,973
Speaker 14: months something like one or two years half their price.

1772
01:20:07,293 --> 01:20:10,492
Speaker 2: That you know, the half the price on sorry on.

1773
01:20:11,973 --> 01:20:12,253
Speaker 12: Uber.

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01:20:12,933 --> 01:20:17,412
Speaker 14: Uber take away prices commissions like say Uber take twenty

1775
01:20:17,452 --> 01:20:20,732
Speaker 14: five percent, but if you buy electric car, Uber will

1776
01:20:21,572 --> 01:20:25,412
Speaker 14: only take twelve point five. So they encourage some drivers

1777
01:20:25,452 --> 01:20:30,612
Speaker 14: to buy electric cars. But the but the thing is

1778
01:20:30,652 --> 01:20:33,452
Speaker 14: that you still get the same money, like seven dollars

1779
01:20:33,492 --> 01:20:36,293
Speaker 14: for a ten to fifteen minutes of job, which is

1780
01:20:36,372 --> 01:20:40,412
Speaker 14: like less than minimum pay. You know, so you don't

1781
01:20:40,412 --> 01:20:43,293
Speaker 14: want to investe forty fifty thousand dollars for less than

1782
01:20:43,293 --> 01:20:46,892
Speaker 14: a minimum pay job? You know you don't want.

1783
01:20:46,732 --> 01:20:49,492
Speaker 3: To Let's see up and but how does that relate

1784
01:20:49,532 --> 01:20:50,452
Speaker 3: to New Zealand's culture?

1785
01:20:51,372 --> 01:20:51,492
Speaker 12: Oh?

1786
01:20:51,692 --> 01:20:54,213
Speaker 14: I will tell you. So what happens? I got a

1787
01:20:54,253 --> 01:20:58,452
Speaker 14: pres car right yep? So when I so, when you

1788
01:20:58,692 --> 01:21:02,093
Speaker 14: order Uber, you get some kind of cyst like you

1789
01:21:02,133 --> 01:21:04,772
Speaker 14: can you can choose multiple cars like Uber.

1790
01:21:04,652 --> 01:21:05,692
Speaker 3: Electric, gotcha?

1791
01:21:05,812 --> 01:21:06,012
Speaker 1: Yes?

1792
01:21:06,133 --> 01:21:07,412
Speaker 3: Yeah, Uber Green?

1793
01:21:08,412 --> 01:21:12,532
Speaker 2: Yes, fully electric as opposed to hybrid pent.

1794
01:21:13,173 --> 01:21:19,772
Speaker 14: No, no, no, fully electric is electric? Tesla Tesla like

1795
01:21:19,893 --> 01:21:24,093
Speaker 14: that new cars. So so what Uber does now to

1796
01:21:24,333 --> 01:21:28,293
Speaker 14: encourage those things? Uber plays Electrica on the top. So

1797
01:21:28,333 --> 01:21:30,532
Speaker 14: when you're ordering, you get electric car.

1798
01:21:30,372 --> 01:21:30,852
Speaker 1: On the top.

1799
01:21:31,133 --> 01:21:35,692
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, so that is unethical and my car, Uber

1800
01:21:35,772 --> 01:21:39,053
Speaker 14: PRIs will be at the very last You how to

1801
01:21:39,213 --> 01:21:41,652
Speaker 14: crawl down? You are to scrawl down to find me?

1802
01:21:42,333 --> 01:21:44,293
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just saving a look while we're speaking. So

1803
01:21:44,412 --> 01:21:46,333
Speaker 3: is there just something they do in New Zealand you

1804
01:21:46,372 --> 01:21:47,732
Speaker 3: but don't do that in other countries.

1805
01:21:48,812 --> 01:21:50,692
Speaker 14: I don't know that is what they were doing, but

1806
01:21:50,893 --> 01:21:53,652
Speaker 14: I have complained them many times this one. So now

1807
01:21:53,692 --> 01:21:57,052
Speaker 14: I'm getting my car not that bad because I wrote

1808
01:21:57,053 --> 01:22:00,333
Speaker 14: them many times that you are doing unethical things, unethical things.

1809
01:22:00,372 --> 01:22:03,092
Speaker 14: Many times I told them I will Saturn with the

1810
01:22:03,253 --> 01:22:07,132
Speaker 14: Commerce Commission, I will go to the politicians and everywhere.

1811
01:22:07,253 --> 01:22:09,213
Speaker 14: But they said, oh no, we want to anchor an

1812
01:22:09,213 --> 01:22:12,892
Speaker 14: electric car. So they but firstfully they put electric car

1813
01:22:12,933 --> 01:22:15,772
Speaker 14: on the top. And you know what they do in

1814
01:22:15,853 --> 01:22:18,293
Speaker 14: the bracket. In the bracket they ride faster.

1815
01:22:19,173 --> 01:22:21,092
Speaker 2: Right, I'm just I'm just looking at that right now

1816
01:22:22,013 --> 01:22:24,852
Speaker 2: X thirty three PM, three minutes away, faster and it's

1817
01:22:24,893 --> 01:22:26,092
Speaker 2: a picture of a Tesla.

1818
01:22:26,652 --> 01:22:30,013
Speaker 14: Yeah, you're right, Yeah it is now it is now.

1819
01:22:30,173 --> 01:22:33,133
Speaker 14: Change this So the Uber keep on changing s for

1820
01:22:33,293 --> 01:22:36,412
Speaker 14: the demand. There's a lots of demand. When there's a

1821
01:22:36,452 --> 01:22:39,133
Speaker 14: lots of demand, Uber put Uber X on the top.

1822
01:22:39,652 --> 01:22:43,012
Speaker 14: And when there's no demand, when it becomes quite Uber

1823
01:22:43,053 --> 01:22:47,732
Speaker 14: Electric will be on the top. Right, That is what

1824
01:22:47,772 --> 01:22:49,652
Speaker 14: they are doing, which is I'm not happy with that.

1825
01:22:50,133 --> 01:22:52,053
Speaker 3: You know, we can hear the PINSU and I can

1826
01:22:52,093 --> 01:22:53,852
Speaker 3: see why you're not happy with that. But overall, do

1827
01:22:53,933 --> 01:22:55,812
Speaker 3: you enjoy being an Uber driver? Clearly you got some

1828
01:22:55,853 --> 01:22:56,973
Speaker 3: problems with the company, but.

1829
01:22:58,652 --> 01:23:02,012
Speaker 14: You yeah, But I think if any other company takes

1830
01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:05,092
Speaker 14: over from Uber, like a Zoomie or ddy or boat

1831
01:23:05,253 --> 01:23:08,932
Speaker 14: and they pay better to the driver and they put

1832
01:23:08,933 --> 01:23:11,892
Speaker 14: some driver cap on it. See for example, I'm when

1833
01:23:11,933 --> 01:23:15,333
Speaker 14: I was doing in my area, I was the only

1834
01:23:15,732 --> 01:23:19,133
Speaker 14: I can see only two three cars near me, like

1835
01:23:19,372 --> 01:23:23,173
Speaker 14: seven eight years back. Now I see fifteen cars around me.

1836
01:23:24,293 --> 01:23:27,412
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, Pento, it's good to check with you, and

1837
01:23:27,452 --> 01:23:30,052
Speaker 3: I'm sorry you're having that battle about the electric car situation.

1838
01:23:30,173 --> 01:23:31,973
Speaker 3: I can I can since why you're frustrated with it.

1839
01:23:32,213 --> 01:23:35,812
Speaker 2: But you've been doing it for nine years, Pento, So

1840
01:23:36,253 --> 01:23:39,013
Speaker 2: is it Are you earning enough money doing it? Do

1841
01:23:39,053 --> 01:23:41,133
Speaker 2: you think you're earning more than minimum wage an hour

1842
01:23:41,973 --> 01:23:42,853
Speaker 2: doing it?

1843
01:23:43,053 --> 01:23:45,812
Speaker 14: Just to one? I used to one before, so Weed

1844
01:23:46,173 --> 01:23:50,812
Speaker 14: around twenty eight, twenty nine to thirty dollars something like that. Yeah,

1845
01:23:50,853 --> 01:23:53,053
Speaker 14: so it was like it was working wile it was

1846
01:23:53,173 --> 01:23:55,932
Speaker 14: it was around minimum above minimum after all the taxis

1847
01:23:55,933 --> 01:24:01,732
Speaker 14: and holiday day okay, but now now they don't have

1848
01:24:01,853 --> 01:24:06,012
Speaker 14: any cap on the Uber driver. So sometimes I'm waiting

1849
01:24:06,093 --> 01:24:07,972
Speaker 14: for two hours to get a single job.

1850
01:24:08,452 --> 01:24:11,092
Speaker 2: Yeah that's tough. Yeah, best stuff.

1851
01:24:11,333 --> 01:24:14,693
Speaker 14: So yeah, So because this has happened because they're prioritizing

1852
01:24:14,732 --> 01:24:18,612
Speaker 14: the Electrica on the top. So as a client, you

1853
01:24:18,652 --> 01:24:21,213
Speaker 14: can't see uber x, so you just order Uber electric

1854
01:24:21,333 --> 01:24:22,572
Speaker 14: Uber electric on the top.

1855
01:24:22,933 --> 01:24:26,173
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's interesting though, because I catch ubers all the time.

1856
01:24:26,213 --> 01:24:29,052
Speaker 2: But I very really, I'm always getting a Prius.

1857
01:24:29,253 --> 01:24:31,053
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it when I get it testing just

1858
01:24:31,093 --> 01:24:33,333
Speaker 3: because it's so reappy too. It's no offense to you, but.

1859
01:24:33,492 --> 01:24:35,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I just and I just go with the

1860
01:24:35,973 --> 01:24:38,372
Speaker 2: first thing. I didn't think about it. I just go, go, go, go,

1861
01:24:38,372 --> 01:24:40,972
Speaker 2: go pick me up the nearest one. Let's go. Yeah,

1862
01:24:41,053 --> 01:24:42,973
Speaker 2: yeah for the cheapest one. Thank you so much for

1863
01:24:43,013 --> 01:24:46,572
Speaker 2: you call Pintuto. Thank you for your insights. Hi, guys,

1864
01:24:46,612 --> 01:24:50,452
Speaker 2: I'm an Uber passenger and a driver. Those four guys

1865
01:24:50,492 --> 01:24:53,532
Speaker 2: may have ruined the livelihoods of thousands of US drivers.

1866
01:24:53,532 --> 01:24:55,772
Speaker 2: The flexibility of Uber is the reason myself and most

1867
01:24:55,853 --> 01:24:58,213
Speaker 2: drivers do it. I'm on the pension, so the earnings

1868
01:24:58,253 --> 01:25:00,692
Speaker 2: I get from Uber tops it up. Some hourly rates

1869
01:25:00,692 --> 01:25:03,333
Speaker 2: are higher than others, so it swings and roundabates. Cheers

1870
01:25:03,372 --> 01:25:04,932
Speaker 2: from Frank from christ Church.

1871
01:25:04,973 --> 01:25:06,732
Speaker 3: Shut on your Frank, go on undred and eighty ten

1872
01:25:06,772 --> 01:25:08,732
Speaker 3: eighty to see numbered to call if you can't get through,

1873
01:25:08,812 --> 01:25:10,932
Speaker 3: keep trying full boards. At the moment it is quarter

1874
01:25:10,973 --> 01:25:14,892
Speaker 3: past three. News Talk sendb eighteen past three. Some good

1875
01:25:14,933 --> 01:25:16,692
Speaker 3: texts coming through on the Suber business.

1876
01:25:16,973 --> 01:25:20,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Pinto Pintu was on Carrey this morning as well.

1877
01:25:20,293 --> 01:25:22,612
Speaker 2: Kerrie Woodham, who's in some parts of the country in

1878
01:25:22,652 --> 01:25:24,652
Speaker 2: the morning between nine and twelve. Great New Zealandy.

1879
01:25:24,732 --> 01:25:26,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, great broadcast, A great woman.

1880
01:25:26,333 --> 01:25:29,053
Speaker 2: Never would have got home on my marathon on the

1881
01:25:29,093 --> 01:25:29,933
Speaker 2: weekend of Edin being for.

1882
01:25:29,973 --> 01:25:31,732
Speaker 3: Kerrey's great advice and motivation.

1883
01:25:32,173 --> 01:25:34,852
Speaker 2: But yeah, apparently Pintu was coming hot on her show

1884
01:25:34,893 --> 01:25:36,333
Speaker 2: as well about this Uber.

1885
01:25:36,772 --> 01:25:38,932
Speaker 3: He's got an extra grindin he does. He does.

1886
01:25:39,093 --> 01:25:43,652
Speaker 2: He's enthusiastic about that issue. About the the tesla's popping up.

1887
01:25:43,692 --> 01:25:46,293
Speaker 3: First, Keep fighting, Pinto, You keep fighting, h.

1888
01:25:46,333 --> 01:25:48,132
Speaker 2: You keep fighting the good fight, Pinto.

1889
01:25:48,532 --> 01:25:50,293
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

1890
01:25:50,293 --> 01:25:50,532
Speaker 3: to call.

1891
01:25:50,692 --> 01:25:54,532
Speaker 2: Uber could just offer two contract types, one for employees

1892
01:25:54,532 --> 01:25:56,812
Speaker 2: and one for contractors, and then offer when you book

1893
01:25:56,812 --> 01:25:59,253
Speaker 2: a ride to the customer option for employees which is

1894
01:25:59,253 --> 01:26:03,173
Speaker 2: more expensive, and one Ford contract which is cheaper, and

1895
01:26:03,452 --> 01:26:08,213
Speaker 2: late the consumer decide which to use. In New zeal

1896
01:26:08,973 --> 01:26:10,652
Speaker 2: that's one of those things that they do, isn't it,

1897
01:26:10,973 --> 01:26:13,532
Speaker 2: Like you put up the option do you want to

1898
01:26:13,572 --> 01:26:16,892
Speaker 2: support someone that's getting minimum wage and Kiwi Saver or

1899
01:26:16,893 --> 01:26:17,932
Speaker 2: do you want to get the cheaper.

1900
01:26:18,492 --> 01:26:20,253
Speaker 3: And when no one's looking, we all know what most

1901
01:26:20,253 --> 01:26:21,732
Speaker 3: of us back I.

1902
01:26:21,692 --> 01:26:24,932
Speaker 2: Was talking to these people from a particular company, won't

1903
01:26:24,933 --> 01:26:29,293
Speaker 2: give it any details away. And they had a green option,

1904
01:26:30,253 --> 01:26:36,452
Speaker 2: a recycling green option advertising thing they were doing where

1905
01:26:36,452 --> 01:26:38,372
Speaker 2: there was a green option, right right, okay, And then

1906
01:26:38,412 --> 01:26:41,213
Speaker 2: they got rid of that one day and they they

1907
01:26:42,213 --> 01:26:45,852
Speaker 2: changed just to just be normal and not green washing.

1908
01:26:46,532 --> 01:26:50,572
Speaker 2: And they said that there was zero complaints and zero changes. Funny,

1909
01:26:50,893 --> 01:26:54,612
Speaker 2: and when they did the analysis, it was price point

1910
01:26:55,933 --> 01:26:58,532
Speaker 2: for all all people talk about doing the right thing

1911
01:26:58,893 --> 01:27:01,813
Speaker 2: when they look at it. If it's five cents cheaperson,

1912
01:27:01,853 --> 01:27:03,452
Speaker 2: do not do the right thing. They don't do the

1913
01:27:03,492 --> 01:27:04,052
Speaker 2: right it's all.

1914
01:27:03,973 --> 01:27:09,053
Speaker 3: About the money. Many idea.

1915
01:27:10,692 --> 01:27:13,652
Speaker 16: I was ringing up because of or you know, obviously

1916
01:27:13,732 --> 01:27:16,692
Speaker 16: used Uber at times, and I've ended up with a

1917
01:27:16,772 --> 01:27:21,652
Speaker 16: taxi driver instead. You've actually got taxi drivers who are

1918
01:27:21,973 --> 01:27:25,652
Speaker 16: doubling as Uber. And kind of how they get away

1919
01:27:25,692 --> 01:27:27,333
Speaker 16: with it, I'm not sure, but.

1920
01:27:28,253 --> 01:27:30,572
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they just they just they just operate as

1921
01:27:30,572 --> 01:27:33,333
Speaker 2: a taxi driver or and then they have you know,

1922
01:27:33,372 --> 01:27:36,612
Speaker 2: sometimes you have multiple apps in the car, so if

1923
01:27:36,612 --> 01:27:39,213
Speaker 2: the uber Trup comes up, they take that. If the

1924
01:27:39,213 --> 01:27:41,412
Speaker 2: taxi trip comes up, they'll take that. If the other

1925
01:27:41,492 --> 01:27:43,893
Speaker 2: one comes up, they'll take that. Yeah.

1926
01:27:43,893 --> 01:27:47,372
Speaker 16: But when you you know, listen to people talk before

1927
01:27:47,412 --> 01:27:50,572
Speaker 16: about you know, Uber drivers getting penalties for going to

1928
01:27:50,612 --> 01:27:53,213
Speaker 16: the airports. Well, if you're a taxi driver who then

1929
01:27:53,253 --> 01:27:56,932
Speaker 16: becomes an Uber driver, they get around all that shape shift.

1930
01:27:58,333 --> 01:28:01,772
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem that that that had a sort of

1931
01:28:01,893 --> 01:28:03,572
Speaker 2: bar to be a taxi driver. At the moment you

1932
01:28:03,652 --> 01:28:06,732
Speaker 2: get the Timu taxis whenever you're leaving. Whenever I'm leaving

1933
01:28:06,732 --> 01:28:10,333
Speaker 2: the Warriors games, for example, there's about a thousand taxis

1934
01:28:10,372 --> 01:28:13,852
Speaker 2: lining up with these Timu Taxi signs with the USB

1935
01:28:15,053 --> 01:28:16,372
Speaker 2: cable hanging out the window.

1936
01:28:16,452 --> 01:28:16,652
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1937
01:28:16,692 --> 01:28:18,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just put a sign on the roof saying taxi.

1938
01:28:19,133 --> 01:28:21,092
Speaker 2: Get in one of those and you will be paying

1939
01:28:21,293 --> 01:28:22,972
Speaker 2: a lot of money to get where you're going, that's

1940
01:28:23,013 --> 01:28:23,333
Speaker 2: for sure.

1941
01:28:23,492 --> 01:28:27,293
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you got a haggle before you jump in

1942
01:28:27,293 --> 01:28:27,812
Speaker 3: one of those.

1943
01:28:28,492 --> 01:28:32,013
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, bay gouge, Yeah yeah, yeah. I just thought

1944
01:28:32,013 --> 01:28:34,253
Speaker 16: it was really interesting because couple times I didn't want

1945
01:28:34,253 --> 01:28:36,052
Speaker 16: to get to the car because I'm like hanging.

1946
01:28:35,812 --> 01:28:39,013
Speaker 2: On at a taxi at least at least take your

1947
01:28:39,053 --> 01:28:41,213
Speaker 2: Temu taxi sign off the roof when you're pulling up

1948
01:28:41,213 --> 01:28:45,972
Speaker 2: and pretending to be an exactly thanks for your call,

1949
01:28:46,412 --> 01:28:46,973
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1950
01:28:47,053 --> 01:28:50,372
Speaker 3: You're great. Plenty of tecks coming through on nine to nine.

1951
01:28:50,293 --> 01:28:53,812
Speaker 2: Two sounds like our supply side issues. More Uber drivers

1952
01:28:53,893 --> 01:28:56,172
Speaker 2: need to quit Uber, and then there will be less drivers,

1953
01:28:56,213 --> 01:28:59,173
Speaker 2: more work for the remaining drivers, increasing income for those drivers.

1954
01:28:59,412 --> 01:29:01,372
Speaker 3: Think there's a lot of sense to that. I mean,

1955
01:29:01,372 --> 01:29:03,412
Speaker 3: that's what they called sage pricing, and I paid for

1956
01:29:03,452 --> 01:29:05,772
Speaker 3: the sage pricing where there wasn't enough drivers around, and that's,

1957
01:29:05,812 --> 01:29:07,732
Speaker 3: you know, a model that worked. And unless there's too

1958
01:29:07,772 --> 01:29:08,693
Speaker 3: many drivers.

1959
01:29:08,333 --> 01:29:10,492
Speaker 2: What's supplying demand? Isn't that? Hig guys? Uber is modern

1960
01:29:10,572 --> 01:29:13,893
Speaker 2: day slavery four dollars per hour after costs. Well, I

1961
01:29:13,933 --> 01:29:16,652
Speaker 2: don't think slaves got paid anything. Why do we let

1962
01:29:16,772 --> 01:29:20,612
Speaker 2: in so many unskilled migrants to fill such roles taking

1963
01:29:20,612 --> 01:29:24,132
Speaker 2: a possible minimum wage job away from Kiwi's cheers?

1964
01:29:24,732 --> 01:29:27,572
Speaker 3: Okay, keep those teachs coming through. Nine nine two is

1965
01:29:27,612 --> 01:29:29,972
Speaker 3: that number. We're going to play some messages, but when

1966
01:29:30,013 --> 01:29:31,772
Speaker 3: we come back, we have a check to Byron, who

1967
01:29:31,893 --> 01:29:34,012
Speaker 3: was in the taxi industry, So that's going to be interesting.

1968
01:29:38,213 --> 01:29:41,612
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and

1969
01:29:41,652 --> 01:29:43,813
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

1970
01:29:43,973 --> 01:29:47,013
Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. He was twenty five past three.

1971
01:29:47,532 --> 01:29:50,213
Speaker 2: Byron, You're in the taxi industry for twenty years. What's

1972
01:29:50,253 --> 01:29:51,892
Speaker 2: your thought on this whole Uber situation?

1973
01:29:52,652 --> 01:29:56,652
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hi guys, Yeah, I was in well over twenty years.

1974
01:29:56,732 --> 01:29:59,772
Speaker 4: I was in the industry when Uber came in and

1975
01:29:59,812 --> 01:30:06,692
Speaker 4: it just slowly killed the smaller companies. But there's at

1976
01:30:06,812 --> 01:30:10,532
Speaker 4: least four right sheer companies that are still in New Zealand.

1977
01:30:11,412 --> 01:30:12,532
Speaker 1: Aware of that, yep.

1978
01:30:14,133 --> 01:30:17,972
Speaker 4: But the taxi drivers are still under the same ruling

1979
01:30:18,093 --> 01:30:20,692
Speaker 4: as the Uber droves. I don't understand this whole court

1980
01:30:20,973 --> 01:30:26,053
Speaker 4: saying that's happening. There's still contractors that get no holiday pay,

1981
01:30:26,213 --> 01:30:29,852
Speaker 4: no key we saver anything that. So there's really no

1982
01:30:29,893 --> 01:30:33,892
Speaker 4: difference between the a taxi drove can come out and

1983
01:30:33,933 --> 01:30:38,093
Speaker 4: make twenty dollars or make, you know, have a really

1984
01:30:38,093 --> 01:30:39,692
Speaker 4: good day, make five or six hundred dollars.

1985
01:30:40,093 --> 01:30:43,492
Speaker 2: It's interesting because I was at Joe's Garage, the Cafe

1986
01:30:43,532 --> 01:30:45,213
Speaker 2: and Dunedin the other day and that used to be

1987
01:30:45,253 --> 01:30:49,532
Speaker 2: a taxi dispatch center right and back in the day

1988
01:30:50,372 --> 01:30:53,052
Speaker 2: Barron taxis used to be all the cars were owned

1989
01:30:53,053 --> 01:30:54,932
Speaker 2: by the taxi company, weren't they. This is way back

1990
01:30:54,973 --> 01:30:56,892
Speaker 2: in the day, And there'd be mechanics there and they'd

1991
01:30:56,893 --> 01:30:59,013
Speaker 2: fix them up, kind of like that sit on taxi, right,

1992
01:30:59,333 --> 01:31:01,572
Speaker 2: And so in that point you'd been would you have

1993
01:31:01,652 --> 01:31:02,812
Speaker 2: been an employee for the.

1994
01:31:02,772 --> 01:31:07,372
Speaker 4: Taxi compaign I was in for twenty three odd years

1995
01:31:07,572 --> 01:31:11,812
Speaker 4: and you have a few cars that were owned by

1996
01:31:11,812 --> 01:31:16,532
Speaker 4: the company, but the biggest, you know, the Blue Bubble

1997
01:31:16,572 --> 01:31:18,972
Speaker 4: group just throughout the whole in New Zealand. Now there's

1998
01:31:18,973 --> 01:31:20,932
Speaker 4: no cars that are owned by the company. They're also

1999
01:31:21,772 --> 01:31:22,893
Speaker 4: contract to drivers.

2000
01:31:22,933 --> 01:31:25,133
Speaker 2: So you own the company. Yeah, that's right, and you

2001
01:31:25,133 --> 01:31:26,572
Speaker 2: have to you just have to supply a car that

2002
01:31:26,572 --> 01:31:29,853
Speaker 2: fits the standards.

2003
01:31:28,492 --> 01:31:35,852
Speaker 4: To their specifications. But all the courses and things that

2004
01:31:35,893 --> 01:31:38,652
Speaker 4: you had to pass previously to become a Texas drover,

2005
01:31:38,973 --> 01:31:42,732
Speaker 4: they've all basically come either obsolete or just super easy

2006
01:31:42,772 --> 01:31:45,333
Speaker 4: to get online in a lot of cases. And that's

2007
01:31:45,333 --> 01:31:48,333
Speaker 4: basically to come in line.

2008
01:31:48,173 --> 01:31:51,812
Speaker 2: With was over back back in the day. You might

2009
01:31:51,853 --> 01:31:53,732
Speaker 2: know about this, but in New York used to be

2010
01:31:53,812 --> 01:31:56,612
Speaker 2: so valuable to have a yellow cab that I think

2011
01:31:56,652 --> 01:32:01,213
Speaker 2: the licenses are up to like together.

2012
01:32:01,412 --> 01:32:04,093
Speaker 4: Yeah, in Australia is still the same. It's maybe not

2013
01:32:04,133 --> 01:32:07,052
Speaker 4: a million, but it's to three hundred of thousand dollars

2014
01:32:07,053 --> 01:32:11,052
Speaker 4: and you go into a ballot in some cases too

2015
01:32:11,452 --> 01:32:14,612
Speaker 4: and then you can own a license. But it's been

2016
01:32:14,812 --> 01:32:16,652
Speaker 4: not like that for a very very long time.

2017
01:32:16,492 --> 01:32:19,372
Speaker 2: Here with Uber. So would you say they being a

2018
01:32:19,412 --> 01:32:21,492
Speaker 2: taxi driver that you know, maybe the standards have dropped

2019
01:32:21,532 --> 01:32:25,412
Speaker 2: in some regards, but that the taxi industry was slow

2020
01:32:25,492 --> 01:32:27,412
Speaker 2: to see what was coming and there's a lot of

2021
01:32:27,412 --> 01:32:30,692
Speaker 2: conveniences that Uber brought in, you know, knowing when the

2022
01:32:30,692 --> 01:32:31,852
Speaker 2: car was going to arrive.

2023
01:32:31,893 --> 01:32:35,093
Speaker 4: Definitely where you're going. Because the app type scene was

2024
01:32:36,692 --> 01:32:40,772
Speaker 4: I was in a company that was, I would believe

2025
01:32:40,772 --> 01:32:43,173
Speaker 4: the second biggest company in Auckland and I'm just in

2026
01:32:43,253 --> 01:32:46,452
Speaker 4: the office. But even even the Blue Bubble group was

2027
01:32:46,572 --> 01:32:48,852
Speaker 4: very very slow to and that's not who I went for,

2028
01:32:48,893 --> 01:32:51,932
Speaker 4: but that was slow to come in on the whole

2029
01:32:51,933 --> 01:32:56,372
Speaker 4: app situation. And then after that a lot of the

2030
01:32:56,372 --> 01:33:00,612
Speaker 4: smaller companies just dropped off. Or there was drivers at

2031
01:33:00,612 --> 01:33:03,732
Speaker 4: one point that would has three or four phones on

2032
01:33:03,732 --> 01:33:08,732
Speaker 4: the front of the car. They're doing you know, they're

2033
01:33:08,772 --> 01:33:12,493
Speaker 4: doing Uber and this and that and the other. And

2034
01:33:13,133 --> 01:33:15,812
Speaker 4: you know, you get you know, you'd order a car

2035
01:33:15,893 --> 01:33:18,932
Speaker 4: and you'd be getting canceled because that's a better job

2036
01:33:19,013 --> 01:33:22,372
Speaker 4: come up. And I think that slowly slipped away. But

2037
01:33:23,093 --> 01:33:25,933
Speaker 4: I just I haven't seen the the text in this

2038
01:33:26,692 --> 01:33:29,532
Speaker 4: Taxi Federation people come out and make any comment or

2039
01:33:30,612 --> 01:33:35,213
Speaker 4: but basically, you know you're you're, you're you're driving hours

2040
01:33:35,253 --> 01:33:38,492
Speaker 4: and your rules and regulations for an uber drivers exactly

2041
01:33:38,532 --> 01:33:39,532
Speaker 4: the terms of taxi driver.

2042
01:33:40,652 --> 01:33:43,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the has there been? What about those taxis

2043
01:33:43,652 --> 01:33:45,133
Speaker 2: with someone just says I was talking about them before,

2044
01:33:45,173 --> 01:33:47,372
Speaker 2: called those I was calling them tw taxis where someone's

2045
01:33:47,412 --> 01:33:49,133
Speaker 2: just ordered a taxi sign that they stick on their

2046
01:33:49,213 --> 01:33:51,173
Speaker 2: roof and then they plug it into the USB and

2047
01:33:51,253 --> 01:33:54,732
Speaker 2: their car and then they pull up outside the Anyone

2048
01:33:54,732 --> 01:33:57,093
Speaker 2: can do that and then that anyone and they can

2049
01:33:57,133 --> 01:33:59,412
Speaker 2: make up what there, whatever their fear is, they can

2050
01:33:59,492 --> 01:34:01,772
Speaker 2: just make it up. Yeah.

2051
01:34:01,893 --> 01:34:05,852
Speaker 4: So over the rule over the years, the I think

2052
01:34:06,412 --> 01:34:09,333
Speaker 4: I'm a little bit out of the I think since

2053
01:34:09,452 --> 01:34:12,772
Speaker 4: two thousand and seven teen and I could be creeted

2054
01:34:12,812 --> 01:34:16,612
Speaker 4: on there. Basically you can, you know, with sure whatever

2055
01:34:17,013 --> 01:34:19,933
Speaker 4: vehicle can go. And well the Awkland Ferry terminals are

2056
01:34:19,973 --> 01:34:23,053
Speaker 4: the prime examples. You go sit down there and you'll

2057
01:34:23,053 --> 01:34:25,933
Speaker 4: see it car was just the taxis written on it.

2058
01:34:26,093 --> 01:34:28,013
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of horror stories that have come

2059
01:34:28,053 --> 01:34:30,652
Speaker 4: out over the years with you know, how much to

2060
01:34:31,732 --> 01:34:33,532
Speaker 4: Henderson or whatever and they get out there and it's

2061
01:34:33,532 --> 01:34:35,452
Speaker 4: been one hundred dollars and you know it should be

2062
01:34:35,933 --> 01:34:38,973
Speaker 4: forty or something because there's no regulation on it.

2063
01:34:39,213 --> 01:34:40,333
Speaker 3: Always got to negotiate.

2064
01:34:40,412 --> 01:34:45,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, got well, yeah, hi do our good friend Barry Soper,

2065
01:34:45,452 --> 01:34:47,293
Speaker 2: he paid like about one hundred and fifty to get

2066
01:34:47,293 --> 01:34:49,412
Speaker 2: from Eden Park to ponsb.

2067
01:34:49,133 --> 01:34:53,093
Speaker 3: What a mug. Sorry Bears, I love you, but come on, man,

2068
01:34:53,572 --> 01:34:54,492
Speaker 3: all right, let's.

2069
01:34:54,293 --> 01:34:56,333
Speaker 2: Put this uber chat to bed. It's been going on

2070
01:34:56,412 --> 01:34:56,932
Speaker 2: for too long.

2071
01:34:57,213 --> 01:35:00,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've enjoyed, but we've rinsed it for everything it's.

2072
01:35:00,853 --> 01:35:03,892
Speaker 2: Worth so good, Like both sides seem to have some

2073
01:35:03,933 --> 01:35:06,972
Speaker 2: points on it, you know, and then we want everyone

2074
01:35:07,013 --> 01:35:08,412
Speaker 2: to get paid and we want everyone to have a

2075
01:35:08,452 --> 01:35:11,013
Speaker 2: good chance in life. But whichever way you lean, New

2076
01:35:11,093 --> 01:35:13,852
Speaker 2: Zealand would be a weird place if Uber was to

2077
01:35:13,893 --> 01:35:15,852
Speaker 2: upsticks and leave right now. Yeah, it soon to be

2078
01:35:15,893 --> 01:35:16,412
Speaker 2: weird for me.

2079
01:35:16,572 --> 01:35:19,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said right, it's coming up after the headlines.

2080
01:35:20,213 --> 01:35:22,652
Speaker 3: This is a great topic and we desperately want to

2081
01:35:22,652 --> 01:35:24,492
Speaker 3: get into this. But this is an article that upset

2082
01:35:24,532 --> 01:35:25,053
Speaker 3: you a little bit.

2083
01:35:25,093 --> 01:35:25,253
Speaker 8: Man.

2084
01:35:25,412 --> 01:35:28,732
Speaker 3: Oh, the foods you should ever store in your fridge.

2085
01:35:28,853 --> 01:35:31,612
Speaker 2: Oh, I've never been so angry at an article in

2086
01:35:31,612 --> 01:35:33,892
Speaker 2: my life. We'll tell you the details after the news.

2087
01:35:33,933 --> 01:35:36,532
Speaker 2: But this I got angry, didn't I? You did?

2088
01:35:36,572 --> 01:35:37,333
Speaker 3: You got really angry.

2089
01:35:37,412 --> 01:35:40,173
Speaker 2: I nearly flipped the Hosking memorial desk because I was

2090
01:35:40,253 --> 01:35:40,812
Speaker 2: so angry about it.

2091
01:35:40,812 --> 01:35:42,492
Speaker 3: As a crack in the glass. For goodness sake, it

2092
01:35:42,692 --> 01:35:43,972
Speaker 3: is twenty nine to four.

2093
01:35:46,333 --> 01:35:49,012
Speaker 1: You talk, said the headlines with blue.

2094
01:35:48,772 --> 01:35:52,253
Speaker 6: Bubble taxis It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The

2095
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:56,932
Speaker 6: UN Security Councils back to US drafted resolution on Gaza

2096
01:35:57,333 --> 01:36:00,293
Speaker 6: for a Board of Peace led by US President Donald

2097
01:36:00,333 --> 01:36:05,053
Speaker 6: Trump to oversee reconstruction and economic recovery, and authorised is

2098
01:36:05,093 --> 01:36:11,053
Speaker 6: an international stabilization force to demilitary Gaza by decommissioning weapons

2099
01:36:11,093 --> 01:36:16,012
Speaker 6: and destroying military infrastructure. A briefing from the Justice Ministry

2100
01:36:16,013 --> 01:36:19,412
Speaker 6: shows disorderly behavior is at a ten year low. At

2101
01:36:19,412 --> 01:36:22,972
Speaker 6: the same time, the government considers measures to ban rough sleeping.

2102
01:36:24,133 --> 01:36:27,452
Speaker 6: We've been singled out at the COP thirty climate summit

2103
01:36:27,492 --> 01:36:31,093
Speaker 6: in Brazil again awarded the Shameful Fossil of the Day

2104
01:36:31,133 --> 01:36:34,333
Speaker 6: Award for slashing our methane target in the middle of

2105
01:36:34,372 --> 01:36:38,013
Speaker 6: a methane crisis. Nearly one in five living in New

2106
01:36:38,093 --> 01:36:41,173
Speaker 6: Zealand identify as MARDI, which is more than nine hundred

2107
01:36:41,173 --> 01:36:46,293
Speaker 6: and thirty thousand people, about eighteen percent of the population acts.

2108
01:36:46,372 --> 01:36:49,412
Speaker 6: David Seymour has chosen an extreme label to describe the

2109
01:36:49,452 --> 01:36:53,612
Speaker 6: Green Party, calling them terrorists for their policy promising to

2110
01:36:53,612 --> 01:36:56,772
Speaker 6: revoke fast track permits for coal, hard rock, gold and

2111
01:36:56,812 --> 01:37:01,213
Speaker 6: seabed mining. Auckland Airport plans to build a temporary check

2112
01:37:01,213 --> 01:37:04,892
Speaker 6: in pavilion while its departures hall is upgraded. You can

2113
01:37:04,933 --> 01:37:07,812
Speaker 6: read more at ENSI and Herald Premium. Back to matt

2114
01:37:07,853 --> 01:37:09,572
Speaker 6: Ethan Adams.

2115
01:37:09,133 --> 01:37:11,372
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, roy Lean. Right, so let's get

2116
01:37:11,412 --> 01:37:13,892
Speaker 3: stuck into this. When it was an article that really

2117
01:37:13,933 --> 01:37:15,892
Speaker 3: really upset you met heat this morning when you were

2118
01:37:15,893 --> 01:37:16,293
Speaker 3: reading it.

2119
01:37:16,853 --> 01:37:18,492
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wasn't actually going to talk about it on

2120
01:37:18,532 --> 01:37:20,812
Speaker 2: the show. I was just I was just punishing you

2121
01:37:20,893 --> 01:37:22,812
Speaker 2: with my thoughts on it. I'm tired. It wasn't it.

2122
01:37:22,893 --> 01:37:24,692
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there was some disagreement, I've got to say

2123
01:37:24,772 --> 01:37:26,932
Speaker 3: with some of the outrage that you were feeling over

2124
01:37:26,973 --> 01:37:27,452
Speaker 3: this article.

2125
01:37:27,532 --> 01:37:29,253
Speaker 2: So this article is foods that you should keep in

2126
01:37:29,293 --> 01:37:30,932
Speaker 2: the fridge and foods you shouldn't keep in the fridge.

2127
01:37:30,933 --> 01:37:33,052
Speaker 3: It's biggie, it's one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

2128
01:37:33,532 --> 01:37:35,612
Speaker 2: What do you think about this? Foods to keep out

2129
01:37:35,612 --> 01:37:36,613
Speaker 2: of the fridge? Potatoes?

2130
01:37:37,093 --> 01:37:37,293
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2131
01:37:37,452 --> 01:37:40,212
Speaker 2: Never, this articles has never put potatoes in the fridge.

2132
01:37:40,893 --> 01:37:44,253
Speaker 2: Is that the cold turns the starches to sugars, making

2133
01:37:44,732 --> 01:37:51,692
Speaker 2: for soggy, dark roasties and cloying gloopy mesht instead in

2134
01:37:51,692 --> 01:37:55,852
Speaker 2: a dark, well ventilated cool spot. Nah, keep potatoes in

2135
01:37:55,853 --> 01:37:58,172
Speaker 2: the fridge or else they turn into plants?

2136
01:37:58,572 --> 01:38:00,492
Speaker 3: Are you crazy? Potatoes in the fridge?

2137
01:38:00,612 --> 01:38:02,133
Speaker 2: Yeah right, well no am I crazy?

2138
01:38:02,213 --> 01:38:02,412
Speaker 5: Yes?

2139
01:38:02,532 --> 01:38:05,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, potatoes in the fridge. No, you can't have both

2140
01:38:05,652 --> 01:38:07,733
Speaker 2: things can be true, Tyler, You cannot.

2141
01:38:07,452 --> 01:38:09,213
Speaker 3: Have spuds in the fridge. I don't know if they

2142
01:38:09,253 --> 01:38:11,652
Speaker 3: turned into what did they say, soggy dark roasties and

2143
01:38:11,692 --> 01:38:15,052
Speaker 3: cloying gloopy mash. But I don't have enough fridge space

2144
01:38:15,093 --> 01:38:17,052
Speaker 3: to put on my spuds in there. But it also

2145
01:38:17,053 --> 01:38:17,892
Speaker 3: that just feels weird.

2146
01:38:18,213 --> 01:38:18,492
Speaker 21: Do you know?

2147
01:38:18,572 --> 01:38:22,492
Speaker 2: My mate? He on COVID he left his brand new

2148
01:38:22,612 --> 01:38:27,452
Speaker 2: Mercedes in the garage with some onions and potatoes in

2149
01:38:27,452 --> 01:38:29,532
Speaker 2: the backseat that he had bought and he forgot about them,

2150
01:38:29,572 --> 01:38:33,372
Speaker 2: and then he flushed off down to his home at

2151
01:38:33,372 --> 01:38:34,932
Speaker 2: the other end of the country. He's got two houses.

2152
01:38:35,412 --> 01:38:37,452
Speaker 2: And when he came back, it was like an alien invasion.

2153
01:38:37,452 --> 01:38:39,053
Speaker 2: It was like the day of the Triffids. In his car.

2154
01:38:39,133 --> 01:38:43,012
Speaker 2: The onions and the potatoes had taken over the inside

2155
01:38:43,053 --> 01:38:46,892
Speaker 2: of the car and just absolutely destroyed the leather and

2156
01:38:46,933 --> 01:38:49,532
Speaker 2: everything was. It was now a potato and onion farm

2157
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Speaker 2: inside of an expensive Mercedes.

2158
01:38:51,772 --> 01:38:53,492
Speaker 3: If they need to find water, they don't stop. They'll

2159
01:38:53,532 --> 01:38:54,932
Speaker 3: just keep growing until they find it.

2160
01:38:55,173 --> 01:38:57,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how happened. He said, it was

2161
01:38:57,812 --> 01:38:59,732
Speaker 2: like an alien invasion. He opened his.

2162
01:39:00,093 --> 01:39:02,372
Speaker 3: Did he just burn the Mercedes at that point?

2163
01:39:02,013 --> 01:39:06,853
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened with it. Onions, this says

2164
01:39:08,173 --> 01:39:12,652
Speaker 2: the idiot, and the Herald is saying that onions. You

2165
01:39:12,692 --> 01:39:14,012
Speaker 2: shouldn't keep them in the fridge.

2166
01:39:14,053 --> 01:39:14,253
Speaker 22: Either.

2167
01:39:14,412 --> 01:39:15,933
Speaker 3: Disagree with that. No, you gotta keep on you.

2168
01:39:16,412 --> 01:39:18,933
Speaker 2: What have you got the bloody veggie draw? Then I

2169
01:39:18,933 --> 01:39:21,173
Speaker 2: agree with us bananas. Don't put bananas in the fridge.

2170
01:39:21,213 --> 01:39:23,732
Speaker 3: No, definitely put the bananas in the fridge. It keeps

2171
01:39:23,812 --> 01:39:27,053
Speaker 3: them fresher for longer otherwise, like in the Auckland humidity

2172
01:39:27,893 --> 01:39:29,852
Speaker 3: bunch of bananas, you you only got a day to

2173
01:39:29,893 --> 01:39:30,213
Speaker 3: eat them.

2174
01:39:30,772 --> 01:39:34,532
Speaker 2: Living in bizarro fridge world we have we're exactly the

2175
01:39:34,572 --> 01:39:35,612
Speaker 2: opposites and everything.

2176
01:39:36,133 --> 01:39:37,412
Speaker 3: Let's find one we can agree on.

2177
01:39:37,973 --> 01:39:39,572
Speaker 2: Coffee. Never keep coffee in the fridge.

2178
01:39:39,652 --> 01:39:41,132
Speaker 3: Yeah there's Yeah, there's too damp.

2179
01:39:40,973 --> 01:39:43,572
Speaker 2: And may result in off flavors. The freezer can extend

2180
01:39:43,612 --> 01:39:44,932
Speaker 2: the life of whole beans though.

2181
01:39:45,532 --> 01:39:47,333
Speaker 3: Yeah that's good. Cool, Yeah, okay, okay.

2182
01:39:48,572 --> 01:39:51,652
Speaker 2: Bread, you got to keep your bread in the fridge.

2183
01:39:52,173 --> 01:39:55,173
Speaker 2: Bread stays in the fridge, the vogels stays in the

2184
01:39:55,213 --> 01:39:57,852
Speaker 2: freezer and then gets moved up to the fridge.

2185
01:39:57,973 --> 01:40:00,293
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'd actually go one step further. I chuck

2186
01:40:00,333 --> 01:40:02,412
Speaker 3: that in the freezer, the bread.

2187
01:40:02,492 --> 01:40:04,732
Speaker 2: Yep, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, so you get it.

2188
01:40:04,812 --> 01:40:06,772
Speaker 2: You put it in the freezer, and that's the natural

2189
01:40:06,812 --> 01:40:08,852
Speaker 2: path of bread goes from the freezer to the fridge

2190
01:40:08,853 --> 01:40:09,253
Speaker 2: to the toaster.

2191
01:40:09,412 --> 01:40:11,532
Speaker 3: We can agree on that. There's yep, I agree.

2192
01:40:11,692 --> 01:40:15,932
Speaker 2: But this Muppet Show and the Herald is saying keeping

2193
01:40:15,973 --> 01:40:18,612
Speaker 2: bread in the fridge makes the starch molecules crystallized. He

2194
01:40:18,732 --> 01:40:21,812
Speaker 2: hears of the starch molecules crystallized, so the bread toughens

2195
01:40:21,812 --> 01:40:25,412
Speaker 2: and dries out. Freeze it instead. We've just found out today.

2196
01:40:25,412 --> 01:40:27,093
Speaker 2: If you saw it, sour dough goes dry, you put

2197
01:40:27,133 --> 01:40:27,732
Speaker 2: it under the tap.

2198
01:40:27,973 --> 01:40:29,932
Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds crazy to me. I mean that's from

2199
01:40:29,933 --> 01:40:31,973
Speaker 3: our producer Andrew. Throw him under the bus. You just

2200
01:40:32,053 --> 01:40:33,652
Speaker 3: bunk it in a in a big bucket of water

2201
01:40:34,173 --> 01:40:36,333
Speaker 3: and then back in the oven and she's goot as gold.

2202
01:40:36,452 --> 01:40:37,293
Speaker 3: That sounds like crazy.

2203
01:40:37,372 --> 01:40:40,932
Speaker 2: Chat to me, one, I wait, hundred eighty ten eighty.

2204
01:40:42,293 --> 01:40:43,932
Speaker 2: What should you keep in the fridge? And what shouldn't

2205
01:40:43,933 --> 01:40:44,732
Speaker 2: you keep in the fridge?

2206
01:40:45,173 --> 01:40:48,253
Speaker 3: Like eggs or that is controversial?

2207
01:40:48,333 --> 01:40:49,092
Speaker 2: Let's look at eggs.

2208
01:40:49,173 --> 01:40:51,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what are you reckon about the eggs? Nine

2209
01:40:51,652 --> 01:40:53,732
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty. That is a big one, though,

2210
01:40:54,293 --> 01:40:56,093
Speaker 3: Really need to get your thoughts on this. It is

2211
01:40:56,173 --> 01:40:58,213
Speaker 3: a an article that's outraged Matt Heath.

2212
01:40:58,812 --> 01:41:01,093
Speaker 2: But it's just I want to I'm gonna find out

2213
01:41:01,093 --> 01:41:01,652
Speaker 2: who did write this.

2214
01:41:01,692 --> 01:41:03,253
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go out to the office and they should

2215
01:41:03,253 --> 01:41:03,772
Speaker 3: lose their job.

2216
01:41:04,692 --> 01:41:06,013
Speaker 2: We're gonna throw potatoes at it.

2217
01:41:06,652 --> 01:41:09,532
Speaker 3: It's twenty one to four hundred eighty ten eighty is

2218
01:41:09,572 --> 01:41:10,052
Speaker 3: that number?

2219
01:41:11,053 --> 01:41:14,532
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

2220
01:41:14,772 --> 01:41:18,892
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams, afternoons, used talks.

2221
01:41:18,933 --> 01:41:21,852
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon to you. So this has

2222
01:41:22,093 --> 01:41:24,892
Speaker 3: absolutely gone ballistic on the tex machine. What do you

2223
01:41:25,812 --> 01:41:27,333
Speaker 3: put in the fridge and what don't you put in

2224
01:41:27,372 --> 01:41:27,852
Speaker 3: the fridge?

2225
01:41:27,893 --> 01:41:31,213
Speaker 2: Potatoes in the fridge, Matt, you heathen in a cool,

2226
01:41:31,253 --> 01:41:35,012
Speaker 2: dry place in a Hissian sack. Loving your program. Thanks, Kristen,

2227
01:41:35,213 --> 01:41:40,013
Speaker 2: good finish on that test as the bell bananas your thoughts.

2228
01:41:41,612 --> 01:41:44,492
Speaker 16: Yes, I'm big ten for bananas in the fridge because

2229
01:41:44,532 --> 01:41:46,693
Speaker 16: otherwise they go off.

2230
01:41:46,452 --> 01:41:49,692
Speaker 12: So quickly and no one likes a mushy banana.

2231
01:41:49,893 --> 01:41:51,293
Speaker 3: Yep, spot on.

2232
01:41:51,372 --> 01:41:53,933
Speaker 2: Do they become more mush because I have bananas in

2233
01:41:53,973 --> 01:41:55,933
Speaker 2: the fridge because I would forget it would keep them

2234
01:41:55,973 --> 01:41:57,852
Speaker 2: all crispy and nice and cool and ready to go,

2235
01:41:57,973 --> 01:42:01,732
Speaker 2: but it makes them mushy. Oh no, you're bananas in

2236
01:42:01,732 --> 01:42:03,213
Speaker 2: the fridge. You're with me? No, you're agreeing?

2237
01:42:03,333 --> 01:42:05,372
Speaker 23: Yeah, I'm a banana in the fridge.

2238
01:42:05,372 --> 01:42:05,892
Speaker 3: G Yeah.

2239
01:42:05,893 --> 01:42:07,812
Speaker 2: Cool, we're on the same pager for.

2240
01:42:08,053 --> 01:42:11,052
Speaker 20: Long you can and then a real raw banana?

2241
01:42:11,692 --> 01:42:14,333
Speaker 3: Yeah, spot on? Because it's those weirdos who keep them

2242
01:42:14,372 --> 01:42:16,612
Speaker 3: on the on the bench in the sun. Soon as

2243
01:42:16,652 --> 01:42:18,852
Speaker 3: one starts to brown up, It's like a contagion. All

2244
01:42:18,893 --> 01:42:22,492
Speaker 3: of them catch the virus and go mashy and you weirdos.

2245
01:42:22,853 --> 01:42:25,253
Speaker 16: They leave some on the counter for like three weeks.

2246
01:42:25,293 --> 01:42:27,093
Speaker 24: The next thing you know, they're last, and you're making

2247
01:42:27,093 --> 01:42:27,893
Speaker 24: a banana.

2248
01:42:27,572 --> 01:42:31,452
Speaker 2: Pie bana and not as well. Not to mention the

2249
01:42:31,492 --> 01:42:32,733
Speaker 2: fruit fly pandemic.

2250
01:42:32,772 --> 01:42:32,932
Speaker 13: Beg.

2251
01:42:33,532 --> 01:42:36,692
Speaker 20: Yes, I know you're going to watch out these days.

2252
01:42:36,692 --> 01:42:40,853
Speaker 16: Just everything can attack you bananas.

2253
01:42:41,772 --> 01:42:43,452
Speaker 3: You know someone's a heathen if you go under their

2254
01:42:43,452 --> 01:42:45,612
Speaker 3: house and see fruit flies. Just get it together. People.

2255
01:42:46,333 --> 01:42:48,333
Speaker 2: If I go to a house and I see bananas

2256
01:42:48,333 --> 01:42:50,932
Speaker 2: on the fridge, I just I sweep the table off.

2257
01:42:52,213 --> 01:42:56,652
Speaker 2: I'm like Jesus in the temple with the money traders.

2258
01:42:56,652 --> 01:42:57,293
Speaker 3: Steve, how are you?

2259
01:42:58,772 --> 01:42:58,932
Speaker 14: Yeah?

2260
01:42:58,973 --> 01:42:59,612
Speaker 1: It was it that?

2261
01:42:59,973 --> 01:43:01,932
Speaker 22: That's something that goes from the fridg against a temp

2262
01:43:02,692 --> 01:43:05,293
Speaker 22: and what I can't remember what the item was.

2263
01:43:05,333 --> 01:43:05,852
Speaker 7: What was it?

2264
01:43:06,173 --> 01:43:10,133
Speaker 2: Okay? So according to this up in the newspaper, Steve

2265
01:43:10,293 --> 01:43:14,093
Speaker 2: saying that potatoes go gluey and overly sleep sweet. I

2266
01:43:14,452 --> 01:43:18,852
Speaker 2: hang not just funny here potatoes fridges. That spells disaster

2267
01:43:18,933 --> 01:43:21,492
Speaker 2: for potatoes. There's the cold tunes, the starches to sugars,

2268
01:43:21,492 --> 01:43:25,093
Speaker 2: making for soggy dark roasties and chlory gloopy mash. Store

2269
01:43:25,133 --> 01:43:26,892
Speaker 2: them instead in the dark and wel ve insulated. It's

2270
01:43:26,893 --> 01:43:27,372
Speaker 2: cooled spot.

2271
01:43:28,452 --> 01:43:28,972
Speaker 8: No it wasn't.

2272
01:43:28,973 --> 01:43:31,892
Speaker 22: That was something you said about the fridge was damp. Well,

2273
01:43:32,812 --> 01:43:34,652
Speaker 22: I might have heard you wrong, but the fridge and

2274
01:43:34,692 --> 01:43:36,652
Speaker 22: your freezer are the driest places in your house. Your

2275
01:43:36,692 --> 01:43:39,293
Speaker 22: freezer is usually zero humidity, and your fridge is not

2276
01:43:39,333 --> 01:43:39,892
Speaker 22: far behind.

2277
01:43:40,253 --> 01:43:40,932
Speaker 13: Because I used to.

2278
01:43:40,933 --> 01:43:43,532
Speaker 22: Keep all the spices, my chicken stocks, my you know,

2279
01:43:43,572 --> 01:43:46,173
Speaker 22: all further seasonings, all the powers stuff stay in the

2280
01:43:46,173 --> 01:43:49,892
Speaker 22: fridge and they stay dry and powdery. But I may

2281
01:43:49,933 --> 01:43:50,612
Speaker 22: have heard you wrong.

2282
01:43:50,732 --> 01:43:52,612
Speaker 3: No, No, I think I think it was the coffee.

2283
01:43:52,652 --> 01:43:54,293
Speaker 3: The coffee, So I read that out and never keep

2284
01:43:54,333 --> 01:43:55,612
Speaker 3: coffee in the fridge. It's too damp.

2285
01:43:55,692 --> 01:43:57,852
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's the crap.

2286
01:43:57,893 --> 01:43:58,892
Speaker 8: It's total rubbish.

2287
01:43:58,973 --> 01:44:00,692
Speaker 2: So you're with me. This person's a muppet that's written

2288
01:44:00,732 --> 01:44:01,972
Speaker 2: this article. Yeah, that's clear.

2289
01:44:02,053 --> 01:44:03,213
Speaker 5: This is totally.

2290
01:44:02,853 --> 01:44:05,173
Speaker 22: Totally And my my son worked in a restaurant and

2291
01:44:05,253 --> 01:44:07,333
Speaker 22: they had loads of banana and they always kept them

2292
01:44:07,333 --> 01:44:09,852
Speaker 22: in the fridge. They often go a little bit dark

2293
01:44:09,853 --> 01:44:12,972
Speaker 22: and black outside, but the flesh and sit inside stays

2294
01:44:12,973 --> 01:44:14,893
Speaker 22: a lot fresher than if you leave them outside.

2295
01:44:14,933 --> 01:44:16,932
Speaker 2: What about ketchup? Will you keep your kitchup and your

2296
01:44:16,973 --> 01:44:17,893
Speaker 2: tomato sauce.

2297
01:44:18,652 --> 01:44:19,532
Speaker 22: Always in the fridge?

2298
01:44:19,612 --> 01:44:21,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep that in the fridge as well.

2299
01:44:21,093 --> 01:44:23,852
Speaker 22: It doesn't need it that much crep anyway.

2300
01:44:24,053 --> 01:44:25,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I was wanting. I think I think

2301
01:44:25,412 --> 01:44:28,772
Speaker 2: you could go to Sheckleton's hut and squirt the tom

2302
01:44:28,812 --> 01:44:31,173
Speaker 2: sauce from down there and it'll be sweet. Mind you,

2303
01:44:31,213 --> 01:44:34,412
Speaker 2: it's pretty chilly. What about bread? Are you keeping bread

2304
01:44:34,412 --> 01:44:38,572
Speaker 2: in the fridge? Steve?

2305
01:44:38,293 --> 01:44:43,253
Speaker 3: Steve's gone big, refrigeration's got I've cut them off. They

2306
01:44:43,293 --> 01:44:44,133
Speaker 3: don't like the sound of this.

2307
01:44:45,013 --> 01:44:47,333
Speaker 2: I always keep my spuds in the fridge, crispy as

2308
01:44:47,612 --> 01:44:50,732
Speaker 2: purple onion in the fridge all day long. No to

2309
01:44:50,812 --> 01:44:54,173
Speaker 2: Nana's or coffee bread and fridge all day long. If

2310
01:44:54,213 --> 01:44:56,092
Speaker 2: you keep bread in the pantry, it goes moldy.

2311
01:44:56,173 --> 01:45:00,412
Speaker 3: You falls Nana's by the way, bananas, you don't keep

2312
01:45:00,452 --> 01:45:02,652
Speaker 3: Nana in the fridge. Never keep Nana in the fridge.

2313
01:45:02,732 --> 01:45:04,973
Speaker 2: Well, it depends. At some point you might have to

2314
01:45:04,973 --> 01:45:05,732
Speaker 2: put Nana in the fridge.

2315
01:45:05,772 --> 01:45:07,892
Speaker 3: She gets a bit yeaby sometimes blessed Nana.

2316
01:45:08,013 --> 01:45:11,173
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he moves on you might have to put

2317
01:45:11,173 --> 01:45:13,532
Speaker 2: it in the fridge. Mary, welcome to the show.

2318
01:45:14,293 --> 01:45:17,293
Speaker 25: You must keep your fresh eggs in the fridge.

2319
01:45:17,893 --> 01:45:20,492
Speaker 2: You got to keep the eggs in the fridge, Yes,

2320
01:45:20,572 --> 01:45:22,732
Speaker 2: you do. I guess that's why they've got the fridge

2321
01:45:22,732 --> 01:45:23,972
Speaker 2: containers they've got.

2322
01:45:24,133 --> 01:45:28,372
Speaker 25: Then even if you don't have fridge containas, just put

2323
01:45:28,372 --> 01:45:30,572
Speaker 25: the egg captains in there with the eggs and it.

2324
01:45:30,732 --> 01:45:32,973
Speaker 3: But why, I mean, I never do that, Mary, I

2325
01:45:33,053 --> 01:45:35,452
Speaker 3: just think that's a manufacturer's fault that they provide that.

2326
01:45:36,053 --> 01:45:37,852
Speaker 3: What's the benefit of putting them in the fridge.

2327
01:45:38,692 --> 01:45:42,093
Speaker 25: Oh, my husband reckons they keep longer. And you must

2328
01:45:42,133 --> 01:45:45,692
Speaker 25: always he said, you must always point the egg with

2329
01:45:45,772 --> 01:45:48,612
Speaker 25: the pointing down right, not up the.

2330
01:45:48,532 --> 01:45:50,892
Speaker 2: Top off of safety in the egg in the egg holder,

2331
01:45:50,973 --> 01:45:53,213
Speaker 2: otherwise they'll come flying out when you open the fridge door.

2332
01:45:53,572 --> 01:45:56,293
Speaker 2: But have you found that cold eggs are useless for baking?

2333
01:45:56,692 --> 01:45:57,012
Speaker 5: Mary?

2334
01:45:57,893 --> 01:45:58,413
Speaker 18: Ah?

2335
01:45:58,652 --> 01:46:02,053
Speaker 25: We always take them out before about about an hour

2336
01:46:02,173 --> 01:46:03,892
Speaker 25: or half an hour before we're going to bake.

2337
01:46:05,333 --> 01:46:05,652
Speaker 20: Right.

2338
01:46:05,732 --> 01:46:07,492
Speaker 3: Do you know what I just found out about eggs?

2339
01:46:07,492 --> 01:46:09,293
Speaker 3: And I feel like a mug And you know I

2340
01:46:09,293 --> 01:46:11,772
Speaker 3: love it. I love you chickens hatch out of them? Yeah, yeah,

2341
01:46:11,772 --> 01:46:14,293
Speaker 3: which is fascinating. No to tease them. And I know

2342
01:46:14,372 --> 01:46:16,293
Speaker 3: I'm a mug because everybody knows this, But you dunk

2343
01:46:16,333 --> 01:46:18,012
Speaker 3: them in water and if they float to the top,

2344
01:46:18,093 --> 01:46:20,372
Speaker 3: then bad eggs. I had no idea, So I was

2345
01:46:20,372 --> 01:46:22,532
Speaker 3: eating rotten eggs for years before I figured that out.

2346
01:46:22,893 --> 01:46:24,692
Speaker 2: James, have you've been eating rotten eggs as well?

2347
01:46:25,692 --> 01:46:26,052
Speaker 3: No?

2348
01:46:26,053 --> 01:46:27,732
Speaker 13: No, not at all, guys.

2349
01:46:27,732 --> 01:46:31,892
Speaker 24: Just one of my relatives that chooses to keep open

2350
01:46:31,973 --> 01:46:36,133
Speaker 24: bags of potato chips and the fridge and keep open

2351
01:46:36,173 --> 01:46:40,612
Speaker 24: bags and potato chips in the fridge, open bags of

2352
01:46:40,732 --> 01:46:43,053
Speaker 24: potato chips and the printed noise the hell but you're

2353
01:46:43,093 --> 01:46:45,012
Speaker 24: just kicking down, shut and whatever.

2354
01:46:45,492 --> 01:46:49,933
Speaker 3: Yeah, question that. I don't be pushing back on that.

2355
01:46:49,933 --> 01:46:51,812
Speaker 3: That's sounds like they need some help there.

2356
01:46:53,812 --> 01:46:53,852
Speaker 6: That.

2357
01:46:55,853 --> 01:46:59,012
Speaker 2: That's not good. You've got to question that person. Possibly,

2358
01:46:59,053 --> 01:47:01,092
Speaker 2: can you still get people committed?

2359
01:47:04,452 --> 01:47:05,253
Speaker 3: But what's the reason?

2360
01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:05,372
Speaker 11: Now?

2361
01:47:05,412 --> 01:47:08,133
Speaker 3: Obviously they think it's it's kept fresher, So they've got

2362
01:47:08,133 --> 01:47:10,133
Speaker 3: your it's the foil bag, which keeps them fresh enough

2363
01:47:10,173 --> 01:47:11,852
Speaker 3: if you seal it. So they seal it, put it

2364
01:47:11,893 --> 01:47:13,173
Speaker 3: in the fridge and they reckon it's crunchy.

2365
01:47:14,692 --> 01:47:22,012
Speaker 13: Well yeah, yeah, whatever, So you just open the bag.

2366
01:47:22,532 --> 01:47:24,652
Speaker 15: Just what you don't have you put back in the.

2367
01:47:24,572 --> 01:47:27,253
Speaker 2: Fridge, man, I just don't. I don't know anyone that

2368
01:47:27,253 --> 01:47:28,652
Speaker 2: doesn't finish the whole bag of chips.

2369
01:47:28,732 --> 01:47:30,852
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good point. You've never been in that situation,

2370
01:47:31,893 --> 01:47:33,652
Speaker 3: James is a great one. Thank you very much. Mate

2371
01:47:33,692 --> 01:47:35,492
Speaker 3: O eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

2372
01:47:35,612 --> 01:47:36,213
Speaker 3: number to call.

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Speaker 2: Tyler doesn't turn his fridge off when he comes to

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01:47:38,853 --> 01:47:42,253
Speaker 2: work anyway, that's right. Doesn't Tyler turn his fridge off

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01:47:42,253 --> 01:47:43,772
Speaker 2: when he comes to work anyway? I bet you do.

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01:47:45,093 --> 01:47:45,732
Speaker 2: That's from Greg.

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01:47:46,053 --> 01:47:47,852
Speaker 3: That's some Yeah, that's a good memory. I just switch

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01:47:47,893 --> 01:47:48,892
Speaker 3: everything off in the house.

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01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:52,412
Speaker 2: Trust your phone charges everything. You turn the TV off,

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01:47:52,452 --> 01:47:54,812
Speaker 2: it's insanity, it is. You need to be committed as well.

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01:47:55,492 --> 01:47:58,173
Speaker 2: Storing fruit or vegetables and a fridge is generally not

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01:47:58,213 --> 01:48:01,452
Speaker 2: necessarily storing them, though in a well ventilated cold place

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01:48:01,612 --> 01:48:05,012
Speaker 2: is ideal. Since this text right, keep burger In's rings

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01:48:05,013 --> 01:48:06,812
Speaker 2: in the freezer. There are some cold and.

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01:48:06,732 --> 01:48:09,333
Speaker 3: Crunchy it's even Yeah, that's a great idea.

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01:48:09,532 --> 01:48:12,293
Speaker 2: I've never heard of that. If you run an egg

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01:48:12,372 --> 01:48:15,572
Speaker 2: under a warm tap before heating, it will be much fluffier.

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01:48:15,933 --> 01:48:18,412
Speaker 3: These are some good tips coming through rice crack is

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01:48:18,412 --> 01:48:19,732
Speaker 3: one hundred percent in the fridge.

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01:48:20,013 --> 01:48:23,333
Speaker 2: Nah, I'm a funeral director. Nana definitely does go in

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01:48:23,372 --> 01:48:23,732
Speaker 2: the fridge.

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01:48:23,772 --> 01:48:26,253
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, good to know. Good to know than you.

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01:48:29,053 --> 01:48:30,492
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll go to glitus before we get to

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01:48:30,492 --> 01:48:32,692
Speaker 3: play some messages. Get a glenis hi?

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Speaker 19: Hell are you excuse my voice? Banignas? So grow on

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01:48:37,213 --> 01:48:39,253
Speaker 19: the tree and the bunch. You lead them on the

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01:48:39,293 --> 01:48:41,692
Speaker 19: table and just keep one at a time and leave

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01:48:41,732 --> 01:48:43,572
Speaker 19: the wrist on the punch and they stay fish then

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01:48:43,652 --> 01:48:44,452
Speaker 19: separating them.

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01:48:44,772 --> 01:48:48,253
Speaker 3: Ah, so if you break grow on the tree and

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01:48:48,293 --> 01:48:50,333
Speaker 3: the bunch, so they're all sort.

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01:48:50,133 --> 01:48:52,252
Speaker 2: Of they're working symbiotically, they're working.

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01:48:52,053 --> 01:48:54,532
Speaker 19: In Just break off one at a time and leave

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01:48:54,572 --> 01:48:55,692
Speaker 19: the wrist on the bunch and.

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01:48:55,732 --> 01:48:57,612
Speaker 7: Just eat brilliant.

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01:48:57,732 --> 01:48:58,173
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:48:58,213 --> 01:48:59,972
Speaker 2: That's a good tip, Lenus, that is a great tip.

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01:48:59,973 --> 01:49:01,812
Speaker 2: I go to try that out. Yeah, and does that

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01:49:01,933 --> 01:49:03,773
Speaker 2: keep the punishing amount of fruitflies?

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01:49:03,853 --> 01:49:04,652
Speaker 3: We yet hope?

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01:49:04,692 --> 01:49:07,572
Speaker 2: So you know, Shane tomatoes, where are you keeping.

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01:49:07,372 --> 01:49:10,972
Speaker 21: The mate well in the fridge because you know they

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01:49:11,013 --> 01:49:13,452
Speaker 21: taste that damn sight nicer when the cold. But I

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01:49:13,492 --> 01:49:15,772
Speaker 21: have been told that you shouldn't put them in the fridge.

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01:49:15,933 --> 01:49:19,372
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this article since never never refrigerate firm tomatoes.

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01:49:19,412 --> 01:49:22,372
Speaker 2: It kills their flavor once they're squishy. The fridge buys

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01:49:22,372 --> 01:49:24,173
Speaker 2: you an extra day too, so that they're sitting on

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01:49:24,213 --> 01:49:25,253
Speaker 2: the fence on tomatoes here.

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01:49:26,973 --> 01:49:28,973
Speaker 21: Yeah, well they can sit on the fence, mate. I

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01:49:29,053 --> 01:49:30,932
Speaker 21: like them, and I like them in the fridge, nice

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01:49:30,933 --> 01:49:32,293
Speaker 21: and cold on hot piece of taste.

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01:49:32,293 --> 01:49:37,213
Speaker 2: That's a perfect I'm with you. Yes, you're right, Yeah,

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01:49:37,293 --> 01:49:39,973
Speaker 2: keep one crispy in the fridge. Yeah, they're cold. They

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01:49:39,973 --> 01:49:41,532
Speaker 2: need to be cold on your on your toast.

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01:49:41,933 --> 01:49:44,293
Speaker 3: I will push back, shade. I'd say, tomatoes on the

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01:49:44,372 --> 01:49:46,852
Speaker 3: vine that you get from the supermarket, I'll keep those

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01:49:46,973 --> 01:49:50,572
Speaker 3: outside of the fridge because there's there's a sweet element

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01:49:50,612 --> 01:49:52,333
Speaker 3: about it that the fridge kind of takes away a

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01:49:52,372 --> 01:49:53,493
Speaker 3: little at that tartness.

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01:49:53,492 --> 01:49:57,133
Speaker 2: Are you spinning up on fancy tomatoes that are still

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01:49:57,133 --> 01:49:58,772
Speaker 2: connected by a vain those little ones?

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01:49:58,853 --> 01:50:00,412
Speaker 3: Yeah? Just from Pharaoh. Have you ever been.

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01:50:00,333 --> 01:50:02,253
Speaker 21: Really nice tastes sweeter?

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01:50:02,333 --> 01:50:02,492
Speaker 4: Though?

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01:50:02,532 --> 01:50:05,972
Speaker 21: Boys, A cherry tomato that's come you know, that's nice

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01:50:06,013 --> 01:50:07,412
Speaker 21: and warm, or one that's nice and.

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01:50:07,452 --> 01:50:08,293
Speaker 1: Cold on a hot day.

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01:50:09,013 --> 01:50:12,972
Speaker 3: Okay, you got me, you got air, well, said Helen.

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01:50:13,133 --> 01:50:14,253
Speaker 3: You want to have a chat about eggs.

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01:50:16,093 --> 01:50:21,213
Speaker 20: Hello, Helen read, Yeah, yees, your chat about eggs I

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01:50:21,572 --> 01:50:24,492
Speaker 20: go with. However, I bought it at the supermarket is

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01:50:24,532 --> 01:50:28,372
Speaker 20: where I saw it. You don't have the supermarket in

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01:50:28,452 --> 01:50:30,492
Speaker 20: the fridge, so why would I come home and put

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01:50:30,532 --> 01:50:31,173
Speaker 20: them in my fridge.

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01:50:31,492 --> 01:50:37,452
Speaker 2: The experts the experts, Yeah, yeah, the expert is a

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01:50:37,532 --> 01:50:38,213
Speaker 2: very eggy bloke.

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01:50:39,492 --> 01:50:39,692
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:50:39,812 --> 01:50:42,612
Speaker 20: So if you're if you are putting eggs in the fridge,

2449
01:50:42,652 --> 01:50:44,812
Speaker 20: like you've got a lot of eggs in summertime, yeah,

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01:50:44,812 --> 01:50:46,173
Speaker 20: you might want to put some of them in the

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01:50:46,253 --> 01:50:47,333
Speaker 20: fridge and just sort of.

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01:50:47,412 --> 01:50:49,572
Speaker 23: Rotate them out. But I keep them in the pantry.

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01:50:50,452 --> 01:50:53,572
Speaker 23: And tomatoes there even with a vine one when I

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01:50:53,692 --> 01:50:58,372
Speaker 23: buy a bag or you know, an a but I

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01:50:58,452 --> 01:51:03,173
Speaker 23: don't know what you clutch and amount of tomatoes, I'll

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01:51:03,213 --> 01:51:05,133
Speaker 23: put some of the fridge and then take some out

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01:51:05,293 --> 01:51:08,253
Speaker 23: and then just yeah, because they will go yeah off.

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01:51:08,372 --> 01:51:11,053
Speaker 23: And once you've got the fruit fly around. That means

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01:51:11,053 --> 01:51:12,412
Speaker 23: it's too hot for a lot of things to be

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01:51:12,492 --> 01:51:13,893
Speaker 23: out of the fridge.

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01:51:13,652 --> 01:51:14,093
Speaker 12: To be fair.

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01:51:14,333 --> 01:51:16,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're on it. But you know with the

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01:51:16,253 --> 01:51:18,452
Speaker 3: old tomatoes and the fruit and vigie isle. But they're

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01:51:18,492 --> 01:51:19,652
Speaker 3: certainly not on the fridge, are they.

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01:51:19,853 --> 01:51:23,253
Speaker 2: I don't think do you know, Helen, they're called a

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01:51:23,372 --> 01:51:25,652
Speaker 2: cluster or a trust of tomatoes.

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01:51:25,692 --> 01:51:26,692
Speaker 3: A truss I like that.

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01:51:27,013 --> 01:51:27,412
Speaker 12: Do you go?

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01:51:27,692 --> 01:51:28,133
Speaker 2: Who knew that?

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01:51:28,333 --> 01:51:28,692
Speaker 7: Do you go?

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01:51:28,973 --> 01:51:32,452
Speaker 2: Cluster or trust? But if I said to my partner Tracy,

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01:51:32,492 --> 01:51:35,093
Speaker 2: can you pick up a trust of tomatoes in the way?

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Speaker 3: What are you talking about? What the hell is wrong

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01:51:37,452 --> 01:51:39,972
Speaker 3: with you? Helen? Thank you very much.

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01:51:40,732 --> 01:51:43,213
Speaker 2: Matt, you're a Muppet show. Do not put tomatoes in

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01:51:43,253 --> 01:51:45,732
Speaker 2: the fridge, Matt, you humiliated. Tomatoes Do not go in

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01:51:45,772 --> 01:51:47,812
Speaker 2: the fridge. You deserve to be tasted. Matt, keep your

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01:51:47,853 --> 01:51:49,293
Speaker 2: tomatoes out of the fridge. Can yep?

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01:51:49,412 --> 01:51:51,053
Speaker 3: Agree with that? All right? Beck? In the moment it

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01:51:51,213 --> 01:51:52,092
Speaker 3: is eight to fourth.

2481
01:51:51,973 --> 01:51:53,852
Speaker 2: The most controversial topic we've ever had on the show.

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01:51:54,933 --> 01:51:58,293
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

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01:51:58,652 --> 01:52:03,172
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks, it'd.

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01:52:03,013 --> 01:52:05,412
Speaker 3: Be five to four.

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01:52:06,333 --> 01:52:09,452
Speaker 2: Heath, your muppet never stored tomatoes with cucumber. They're not

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01:52:09,492 --> 01:52:12,852
Speaker 2: compatible for storage. That's some kind of double entendre.

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01:52:12,933 --> 01:52:14,492
Speaker 3: There's a bit a new window and there I think

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01:52:14,732 --> 01:52:17,532
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, am I seeing maybe the sides

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01:52:17,532 --> 01:52:17,893
Speaker 3: behind it?

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01:52:18,372 --> 01:52:21,213
Speaker 2: Poppy yours quickly we've only got about We've only got

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01:52:21,253 --> 01:52:23,092
Speaker 2: about thirty seconds. Sorry, Poppy Suit.

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01:52:24,333 --> 01:52:28,892
Speaker 19: Potatoes in the box all purpose best kept in the fridge.

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01:52:29,412 --> 01:52:33,892
Speaker 2: Nice Bomaro potatoes. Nicely potatoes is so good. Hey, thank

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01:52:33,933 --> 01:52:36,412
Speaker 2: you so much for listening. Everyone loved our chats today.

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01:52:36,492 --> 01:52:38,692
Speaker 2: It's been a great time. What to show? The podcast

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01:52:38,692 --> 01:52:40,692
Speaker 2: will be up soon, Ryan Bridge, a man that is

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01:52:40,772 --> 01:52:42,572
Speaker 2: so hot he should probably be kept in the fridges

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01:52:42,652 --> 01:52:45,173
Speaker 2: up next and for here that. But right now, Tyler,

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01:52:45,213 --> 01:52:46,093
Speaker 2: why am I playing this?

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01:52:46,933 --> 01:52:50,173
Speaker 3: Money's too tight to mention by simply re great showne

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01:52:50,333 --> 01:52:53,173
Speaker 3: because we had some great chats about financial tips for

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01:52:53,213 --> 01:52:55,892
Speaker 3: those poor buggers earning two hundred thousand dollars a year

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01:52:56,333 --> 01:52:57,293
Speaker 3: struggling at the moment of.

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01:52:57,293 --> 01:53:01,612
Speaker 2: Stuff anyway you seem busy. Will let you go until tomorrow.

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01:53:01,732 --> 01:53:04,692
Speaker 2: AVO give them a taste a kiwi from Tyler and I.

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