1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City, 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture bands and a play at store. News 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: dogs'd be. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: Good morning, six after five? News doorgsai'd be coming up 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: this morning just before six? Young people and why they 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: might be caught up in the new gang patch band 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: at home insulation? How much does it really cost to 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: stick to the new standards that were introduced last year? 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: New numbers out on that. We'll get to that shortly. Also, 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: Vincent mcavinie in the UK new restrictions for teenagers when 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 2: using social media. There it's gone six after five the 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: agenda it is whenesday, the eighteenth of August. Good morning. 14 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: Hundreds of HESBELA members have been injured after their pages exploded. Yeah, 15 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: pages like we used to use in the nineties. They're 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: still using them there. Quite important because if your Wi 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Fi is down and your phone signals down, pages still 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 2: run on radio signal. Lebanon's capital be route is the 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: center of these. It seems unconfirmed. CCTV video shows an 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: explosion coming from a man's bag while he's shopping. Wow, 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: now we go to a new press conference on p 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Diddy Sean Diddy Combs is being charged with sex trafficking, 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: transportation to engage in prostitution, and racketeering. 24 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: The name and. 25 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 4: Alleges are between at least two thousand and eight and 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 4: the present. Coln's abused, threatened and coerce victims to fulfill 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: his sexual desires, protect his reputation and conceal his conduct. 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: Auckland's Ojo Pulp Mill will decide at eight o'clock this 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: morning whether it will go ahead with a proposal to 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 2: close down, costing seventy five jobs. The price of energy 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: was cited as a key reason for the proposal. It 32 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: comes two weeks after two hundred and thirty people lost 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 2: their jobs with the closure of Windstone Pulp International Central 34 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: Northounland Mills. And to the United States, we go so 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: far from toning down the rhetoric. Hillary Clinton is out 36 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: there labeling Trump again as dangerous to both America and 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: the world. 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 5: I believe Donald Trump has just qualified himself over and 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 5: over and over again to be a presidential candidate, let 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 5: alone a president. 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture beds and a playing store, 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: news talks. 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,959 Speaker 2: It'd be you got to wonder what the pages was 45 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: that Israel? You know, did Iran send them some faulty products? 46 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, the more reliable forms of communication. 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: I thought they had died with the nineties, frankly, but 48 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: they are still widely used because they can use radio 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 2: signals and when the phone signals down, et cetera. They 50 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 2: can be used for short messages. I don't know what 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: terrorists with, what messages they would send to each other, 52 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: like three two one fire or I don't know, but anyway, 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: they are using them, and they are harming them. At 54 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: the moment. They were a recently received delivery, not sure 55 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: where from at this point, but a whole package of 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 2: them basically arrived, They put them on, and up to 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: a thousand of them have now blown up. Wounds included 58 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: severed fingers, head injuries, and large gashes to people's torsos. 59 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: So not particularly nice though they're not particularly nice people, 60 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: are they, So do you feel sorry for them? Probably? 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 6: Not. 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: Nine minutes after five Scotland. We'll get to the global 63 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: dairy trade numbers in a second, by the way, but 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: Scotland is hosting the Games. This is the Commonwealth Games 65 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six Australia. Did you know how much 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: the State of Victoria had to pay in or as 67 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: compensation for failing to have the games that they said 68 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: they would have and then change their mind. Three hundred 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: and ninety million sorry, three hundred and eighty million dollars 70 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: compensation and two hundred million of that is going to Glasgow. 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: I don't particularly like Glasgow. I've never been there, to 72 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: be fair, but I've just listened to a couple podcasts 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 2: crime podcasts recently. It sounds like a terrible place one 74 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 2: you can't understand them too, you get stabbed. So don't 75 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: go to Glasgow and the sports. By the way, only 76 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: ten sports will now take place at this Commonwealth Games, 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 2: hundreds fewer athletes, No athletes, village, no opening and closing 78 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: ceremonies with much fanfare. It's a very scale back budget version. 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: It sounds like school sports day. I would rather go 80 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: to the Ames Games in total, And to be honest 81 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 2: with you, just gone ten minutes after five, Ryan Bridge. 82 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 2: So the farmers filling up beats off the back of 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 2: yesterday we had fed farmers on they've revised up their 84 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: dairy payout interest rate. There were a couple of reasons. 85 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: Interest rates are coming down, commodity prices going up, and 86 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: today's global dairy trade auction results are in up zero 87 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: point eight percent overall, which I think it was up 88 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: point four percent the last time. There was a big 89 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: jump up five point five percent a month ago. So 90 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: looking at the numbers, butter up one point seven percent overnight, 91 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: chad her up two point nine percent. The big one 92 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: for US is milk powders up two point two percent 93 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: and whole milk one point five percent. Of course, there 94 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: are biggest export commodity worth about fourteen percent of our 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 2: export receipts, so those are both up, which is good. 96 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: It is eleven minutes half to five. You're on news Talk, 97 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: said B. We'll be back in just a second. 98 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 4: The first word on the News of the day early 99 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 4: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture, 100 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: Beds and a playing store. 101 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: News Talk SIV fourteen after five News Talks said B. 102 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: Stocks are up. In the States, they are picking a 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: bigger juicier half a percent cut to the interest rates 104 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 2: there the federal reserves first rate cut in four years 105 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 2: is expected tomorrow, so stocks are up picking a half 106 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: rather than a quarter of a percent. Overnight, we had 107 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: retail sales come in up point one percent. This is 108 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: for August monthly figures. The year on year was up 109 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: two point one percent, so that is some good news 110 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: for the States. Obviously important for US, it's the biggest 111 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: economy in the world. There is a time lag for 112 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: any cuts to take effect over there because remember most 113 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: of their mortgages are on for like thirty years as 114 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: opposed to us, which are much shorter periods. Just gone 115 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: fourteen after five Bryan Bridge. Remember the insulation debate new 116 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: h one insulation standards. The Minister Chris Penk said, well, 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 2: he didn't say, but he quoted figures that it could 118 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: be around forty to fifty thousand dollars extra to meet 119 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: the new standards per house that's been built. He said 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: that in July, and now we've had some numbers done. 121 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: It could cost as little as two thousand, two hundred 122 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: dollars to add to a new three bedroom house. That's 123 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: according to quantity surveying your QS who put the numbers 124 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: together for EBOS and New Zealand Certified Builders and Nick 125 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: clements is your QS author, Nick, Thanks for being with 126 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 2: us this morning. Really tell me what is that two 127 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: two hundred dollars estimate? 128 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: What is that for? 129 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 7: So that's the cost impact of meeting the new H 130 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 7: one standard which changed for the twenty twenty three last year? 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: Is this for the country wide? The average? How big 132 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,119 Speaker 2: a home are we talking? 133 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 7: It was a two bedroom about one hundred and forty 134 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 7: square meter two story, our three bedroom, two story one 135 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: hundred and forty square meter home based on their auklaand 136 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 7: regions are sort of the upper half of the North Island, Okay. 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: And is this if you if you start the work 138 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: on the H one from design phase. 139 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 140 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 7: So with H one, there's two ways of complying with 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 7: the standard. There's something called schedule method and then the 142 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 7: other option is calculation method. So how I describe it 143 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 7: to people is there's four different levers that a designer 144 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 7: can pull to enable them enable their designed to meet 145 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 7: the standard. And those levers are the insulation and the 146 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 7: thermal performance of the floor, the walls, the windows, or 147 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 7: the ceiling, the roof. And if you do it by 148 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 7: schedule met that it basically pushes all of those leaden 149 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 7: leavers to ten. So it basically ensures that the building 150 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 7: complies by making sure everything is up to a particular standard. 151 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 7: But what the calculation method allows the designer to do 152 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 7: is work out the film performance of that particular building, 153 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 7: so that design that size, floor area area, window area, 154 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 7: and then they can pull each of those levers individually 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 7: to meet a design criteria so it meets the performance 156 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 7: required for the standard. And the thing is that each 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 7: of those levers has different costs. Each click on that 158 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 7: lever costs a different amount amount of money. And what 159 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 7: we did with the exercise where is basically looked at 160 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 7: each of those levers and looked at what was the 161 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 7: in that case, what was the minimum we could do 162 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 7: to meet the standard, and what was the cost of 163 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 7: each of those ex changes. And so you're able to 164 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 7: it's a bit more refined than what the schedule method is. 165 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 7: The schedual method puts everything basically the most extensive option, 166 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 7: really okay, Whereas that's the calculation method you can refine. 167 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: So you haven't obviously done a lot of work on this. 168 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: The minister hadn't. He was using numbers that were given 169 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: to him by a few random builders. Is there any way, 170 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 2: it could cost forty to fifty thousand dollars for a house, 171 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: a three four bedroom house, as he's indicated. 172 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 7: I don't think so, No, it would it would seem 173 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:35,839 Speaker 7: pretty high. 174 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: Is there a difference? Can you are there? Is there 175 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: an allowance for a difference per region because it's obviously 176 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 2: warmer up north than it is down south in these standards. 177 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, in the in the code what they call us 178 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 7: the R rating, which is the indication of the film performance. 179 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 7: And so you've got to meet a different R venue 180 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 7: down south than you do in the North Island, right, 181 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,719 Speaker 7: But it wouldn't and it would be more extensive to 182 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 7: meet that higher R venue because you've got to have 183 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 7: a higher performing component to get there. But I didn't 184 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 7: actually do the exercise on the other parts of the country, 185 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 7: but I don't believe it would make that much of 186 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 7: a difference. 187 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: All Right, Thank you very much for your time this morning. 188 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: Sounds like the Minister we'll be taking this one on board. 189 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 2: Nick clements with us, the your QS author of the numbers. 190 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: They've run the numbers on the new H one instulation 191 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: standards and found actually it's a fraction of what we 192 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: were led to believe eighteen minutes after five News Talk 193 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: ZB Coming up next, we're going to talk about kids 194 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: in their resilience. A new report out this morning from 195 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: Sir Peter Gluckman's outfit at the University of Auckland interesting. 196 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 4: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge new for twenty 197 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 4: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand, 198 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: Furniture beds and a play at store News Talk ZED. 199 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: Be welcome to your Wednesday morning twenty one after five. 200 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau is in more trouble, more bad news for Trudeau. 201 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: Might be time to say goodbye. He's been in office 202 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 2: for nine years now and they've just lost His party 203 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: has just lost a very what was a safe seat 204 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 2: in Montreal and can it feels like the end of 205 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 2: his time and power? I think, doesn't it. He's down 206 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: in the polls. People are getting sick of him. Nine 207 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: years is a long time to be on the world stage. 208 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: He's been there for I mean, you think Chi Jingping, 209 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 2: you think Putin, and you think Trudeau. He's stuck around. 210 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,959 Speaker 2: He's almost angle and mercle grip on power. He's almost 211 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: in that sort of level is echelon, isn't he? Meanwhile, 212 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: you look at Australia. You look at the Brits. I 213 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: mean they've chewed through them, haven't they like a wood chipper. 214 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: So the election over in Canada must be held by 215 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: tobat the twenty October twenty twenty five. So he's got 216 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: a bit of time up his sleeve. But he'd have 217 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 2: to be pulling a rabbit out of a hat. I 218 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: would have thought twenty one after five bred you research 219 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: this morning which suggests we need to toughen up our 220 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: kids a bit to help address the increase in mental 221 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: health issues that they're experiencing. This is a new Auckland 222 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: University paper. It says in twenty twenty two and twenty 223 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: twenty three, more than one in five of our fifteen 224 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: to twenty four year olds experienced high levels of psychological distress, 225 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: noting our youth suicide rate is one of the highest 226 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: in the developed world. The papers suggesting we focus on 227 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: developing skills and young people that provide a foundation for resilience. 228 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: Doctor Sung Yung Kim is with US Center for Informed 229 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: Futures and author at the University of Auckland. Thank you 230 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: for being with us. Good morning, Good morning Ran. So 231 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: obviously kids are saying that they're reporting that they're feeling 232 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 2: less well more unwell mentally. What do you think's behind that? 233 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 8: It seems like there are a lot of things that 234 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 8: are contributing to a young person's mental health and well being, 235 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 8: things such as the socioeconomic status, relationships, things happening at home. 236 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 8: A lot of fact there is coupled with the rapidly 237 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 8: changing digital and social environments. 238 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 2: Do we punish our kids enough? Do we set them 239 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 2: clear enough boundaries and then follow through with consequences. Is 240 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 2: that part of the reason that they feeling lost. 241 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 9: It's hard to say, and it's uncertain whether it's the punishing, 242 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 9: but research is showing that there is an importance of 243 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 9: having warm, nurturing relationships with young people. 244 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 2: We arguably have more warm nurturing relationships with young people 245 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: now than we've ever had before, and yet their mental 246 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: health is worse. So how does that work? 247 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: Right? 248 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 8: So it's important to look at these relationships. 249 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 9: In a sense of not. 250 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 8: In a way that allows young people to do things 251 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 8: lit up boundaries or introducing boundaries, but looking at how 252 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 8: these relationships are, how we interact with young people, and 253 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 8: how these interactions addresses their needs. 254 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: All right, Thank you very much for your time this morning. 255 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: Dr sim Young Kim, the Center for Informed Futures at 256 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: the University of Auckland. It's Peter Gluckman's outfit just gone. 257 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: Twenty four minutes after five nine two the number to text. 258 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: Would love to hear from you this morning. Ryan Hisbola 259 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 2: thought using pages and avoiding mobile phones would insulate them 260 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 2: from attacks by Israel. Clearly it hasn't. No terrorists should 261 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 2: ever feel safe. Thanks Peter. This is if you're just 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: joining us up to a thousand he bull of fighters 263 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: his BLA terrorists in Lebanon have been hurt or injured 264 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: because their pages have exploded simultaneously. Ryan, Trudeau is hated. 265 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 2: Been in power for too long, much like our Jacindra 266 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: a Jern says Luke Luk. Yeah, although Justina was only 267 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: in power for really five years, five and a bit years, 268 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: Trudeau's been there for nine and by the time he 269 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: leaves office, if he sticks around to the next election 270 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: and gets the boot, that would be almost ten, wouldn't it. 271 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: Twenty five after five the early. 272 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: Edition Full show podcast on Ironart Radio. 273 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: If Thy News talks, Here's why we should care about 274 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: what sounds like a bit of an obscure trip from 275 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: some US officials to Beijing this week. They are going 276 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 2: to meet to talk to their counterparts about a wave 277 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: of Chinese goods flooding world markets. So output. China obviously 278 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: has enormous manufacturing capacity, an enormous machine behind it, and 279 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: the output has gotten too large for the world to absorb. 280 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 2: The strategy by China they reckon, and this is why 281 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: the US officials are going there. The strategy is demand 282 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: at home is a bit weaker for them, so they 283 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: pump up production and they ship the excess offshore. The 284 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: idea is they would build more resilient supply chains throughout 285 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 2: the world. They'll get us hooked on cheap goods. I mean, 286 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: think we're like crack addicts at a dollar store, aren't 287 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: we Think about EV's the huge subsidies. 288 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: That go on there. 289 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: You know, your temuchine, those types of websites, and they 290 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: are squeeze in the process, squeezing other manufacturers around the world, 291 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: including the United States, which is why the United States 292 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: is setting a delegation to go and say stop that please. 293 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: It's also why you're seeing a response, a tariff response 294 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: from Europe from the US. Even some friendly Asian states, 295 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: even places like Indonesia are starting to put tariffs on China. 296 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: The goal seems to be from them, subsidize these manufacturers, 297 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: flood the market around the world, build supply lines, resilient 298 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: supply lines, hook us in on these cheap goods, and 299 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: in the process destroy the competition. Ryan Bridge in the 300 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: eight minutes half to five. So anyway, that US delegation 301 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: is going to go and I mean, what do you do? Hey, 302 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: stop doing that. Okay, that's it going to change anything. Now, 303 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: we have a customer advice notice that has gone out 304 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: this morning from the system operator to our electricity companies 305 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: and they are asking for this is between the hours 306 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: of seven and eight thirty am If I got that right, Leo. 307 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: They are asking for a reduction in the energy use. 308 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: Basically because it's cold, people are going to put the 309 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: heat pumps on, et cetera. As you're waking up this morning. 310 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 2: So we'll tell you more about that as we learn it. 311 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 2: There was one issued last night and another that has 312 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 2: been issued from seven to eight thirty this morning. Look, 313 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: if you cold, put heat pump on. Honestly, we are 314 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: you going to sit there and freeze. Just gone twenty 315 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: nine minutes after five. Welcome to your Wednesday. 316 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 317 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 4: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and 318 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 4: a plying store. 319 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 2: News Talk said B. Good morning, it is twenty four 320 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: minutes away from six. You're on news Talk, said B. 321 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: I'm Ryan Bridge. It is Wednesday, the eighteenth of September. 322 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 2: Great to have your company. Some good advice from one 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: of our listeners here as there's a power crunch this morning. 324 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: Everyone's turning the heat pumps on because it's cold. If 325 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 2: you're cold, put on some more warm clothes, a hatch, 326 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: some gloves, some socks, a scarf, woolen clothes, hot water 327 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: bottles are great. Who needs alchricity? Honestly, thank you and 328 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't know who you are, but you just immediately 329 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 2: sound like my mother. Put a jersey on if you're hungry, 330 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: have a glass of water. Twenty three minutes away from 331 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: six News Talks, there'd be Tory Farno is living in 332 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: an apartment in the city in Wellington. She's just purchased one. 333 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: This is part of the revelations from Nick Mills interview 334 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: with Tory Farno yesterday, in which she announced to the 335 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: world that she had sold her car to try and 336 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: help with paying the bills. Not sure what kind of 337 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: Carritter is. She won't say, you won't say how much 338 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: it costs, how much you got for it, whatever. But 339 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 2: interestingly she was asked about the half a million dollar 340 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: bike rack that Wellington City Council has paid for, and 341 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: Nick did a great job of saying, how on earth 342 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: can you justify this? This is her response, So when 343 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: you think about. 344 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 10: Our multi billion dollar budget, this is like a small 345 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 10: mistake in the widest scheme of things, and I admit that. 346 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Tell you what else was a small mistake was buying 347 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: an apartment in central Wellington. At the moment yesterday trade 348 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: me numbers came out, So if you own an apartment 349 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 2: in central Wellington, sorry, but your value has gone down 350 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars since April, so just 351 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 2: in the last couple of months. It is bad buying. Obviously, 352 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: there's some earthquake issues. There's car park issues because where 353 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: do you park your car, although Toy doesn't have one 354 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: bit of a bad of investments. So the average apartment 355 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 2: lost one hundred and fifty k off their value since 356 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: April one to two, Betties down nine point seven percent 357 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: to six hundred and fifty one thousand dollars. A spot 358 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: of bother. I would have thought as well, if you 359 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 2: your job in the public service, you've just bought this house, 360 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: the values dropping, your mortgage rates are high, you could 361 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: be in a bit of a tight spot. Twenty two 362 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 2: to six, Ryan Bridge. It's got to our reporters around 363 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: the country Culum is in needing with us this morning column. 364 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 2: The government being urged to keep its promise on the 365 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: new hospital. There yr morning Ryan. 366 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 11: The dined And City Council and the New Zealand Nurses 367 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 11: Organization reactivating their campaign in opposition to any clinical cuts 368 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 11: to this one point five billion dollar project. There have 369 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 11: been recent reports of cuts being considered for the new 370 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 11: inpatient building and so ourmyr Juels Radick and n ZnO 371 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 11: delegate Linda Smiley met Health Minister Doctor Shane Retti and 372 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 11: Wellington yesterday and they presented him with an earlier petition 373 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 11: which had twenty three thousand signatures against previously proposed cuts 374 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 11: to the new hospital. Radicks come away saying the Minister's 375 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 11: told him there will be no cuts to this project 376 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 11: and this campaign puts them on notice that they expect 377 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 11: nothing less. All right, how's your weather today? Culum morning 378 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 11: frost's but partly cloud a few showers later this afternoon 379 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 11: northwesters and fifteen today. 380 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: Thank you. Claire is in christ Church with us this morning. Claire, 381 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: good morning. Do you not pay for parking at the 382 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: at Hagley Park and the Botanic Gardens right now? 383 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 10: It's so very christ Church of us, isn't it. We 384 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 10: do not pay at the moment, but we soon will 385 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 10: be and people are not happy about it. Christ Church 386 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 10: City Councilors will today formalize these plans Ryan, which is 387 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 10: to introduce paid parking to a couple of key areas. 388 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 10: It will mean at costs to park at areas within 389 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 10: Hagley Park, so that includes for those who know by 390 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 10: the Horticultural Center and the Cricket Oval, as well as 391 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 10: the Botanic Gardens, parking areas off Ricketon Ab and also 392 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 10: RMR Street. This decision confirms some new rules which were 393 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 10: put through with the long term plan, but it means 394 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 10: that council can basically enforce them. The car parks will 395 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 10: keep a current one hundred and eighty minute limit, but 396 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 10: there'll be seven days a week from eight till five. 397 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 2: All right, Claire. How's your weather today? 398 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 10: Frosty and cold to start as well, A few showers 399 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 10: expected today, high cloud this afternoon, these turning westerly and 400 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 10: a high of fifteen. 401 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: Thank you. We're just getting more information about this squeeze 402 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: on electricity this morning. Apparently there's a fault at a 403 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: gas field in the North Island which has led to 404 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: the low generation, which has led to the warnings by 405 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: Transpower saying just and this is by the way, warnings 406 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: to the electricity companies rather than from trans rather than 407 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: to customers directly saying just tie hoe on heat pumps 408 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: and things like that, or you know, doing your laundry. 409 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 2: I guess between the hours of seven and eight thirty 410 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: am this morning, Max toll is in Wellington, heymax, Good morning. 411 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: This Kitty Allen debarcle with the redacted report. What's going on? 412 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, so we learn more about the former Justice minister's 413 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 12: downfall on Sunday in the Herald. New information from the 414 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 12: police file released relating to the car crash in Wellington 415 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 12: last July that she initially blew over the criminal level, 416 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 12: which is four hundred. But when she gave her evidential 417 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 12: test three hours later, hour and a half after arriving 418 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 12: at the police station, that had fallen to three three five, 419 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 12: that she was found walking away from the scene that 420 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 12: she initially told officers the only time she was driving 421 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 12: was she was trying to move her car off the road. 422 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 12: Wouldn't say who the driver was. But what we mainly 423 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 12: got in the police file was a lot of black ink, 424 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 12: very very much redacted and a lot hidden from the public. 425 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 12: Police have told as privacy was the main reason for that, 426 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 12: balancing it with public interest, but also that the views 427 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 12: of the individual were taken into account, that she was 428 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 12: consulted and so it's been sent to the Ombudsman. Story 429 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 12: by Melissa Nightingale on The Herald's site this morning. 430 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 2: That does seem odd that you'd ask her for her 431 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 2: opinion on what they should redect. 432 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 12: Weather today Max mainly fine thirteen the high Central. 433 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Neva in Auckland. Never good morning, 434 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: Good morning. The workers, seventy five of them at this 435 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: Auckland recycling mill. We're only a couple of hours away 436 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 2: from a decision on. 437 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 6: I know, look, this is the OG pulp mill in Penrose. 438 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 6: Now it's going to decide at eight am whether it's 439 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 6: going to go ahead with the proposal to close down. 440 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 6: And this is citing the price of energy is a 441 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 6: key reason which has hit quite a few of the 442 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 6: mills in the country. First Union says, look, this is 443 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 6: an integral part of our recycling system and if it closes, 444 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 6: what this means that paper and card recycling will instead 445 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 6: be sent off shorter Malaysia for processing. So the unions 446 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 6: come into it. Organizer Justin Wallace says, you know they're 447 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 6: calling on OG to reverse its proposal take up some 448 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 6: of the union generator proposals. But we'll know more at 449 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 6: eight am. 450 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much for that. 451 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 3: Neva. 452 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: It has just gone seventeen minutes away from six. You're 453 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 2: on news Talk saib if you're not putting you oh sorry, weather, 454 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: that's right. 455 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 6: I was still sitting here patiently. And did you get 456 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 6: caught in the storm yesterday? 457 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: Well I didn't get caught, but it was more stormy 458 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: than the day before, wasn't it. 459 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, wasn't it. Well today we're going to 460 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 6: have fine spells. We're going to see a bit of 461 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 6: the sun. There will be a few showers, but fifteen's 462 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 6: are high here in Auckland. 463 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: Brilliant. Thank you, Neva, seventeen minutes away from six News 464 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 2: Talk SEDB. 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Vincent mcavinie is our UK and Europe correspondent. 489 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: He's with us on this this morning. Vincent, what's going 490 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 2: on here? 491 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 13: Well, it's an extraordinary story. It's something out of a 492 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 13: spy movie or something like Slow Horses the TV show. 493 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 13: Because this is unprecedented, it seems that and we believe 494 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 13: it was Israel because they haven't denied it, but they 495 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 13: haven't said anything else otherwise. They've managed to penetrate into 496 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 13: the production line of these pages. It's believed insert some 497 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 13: kind of small explosive and they've managed to detonate them 498 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 13: simultaneous to today across Lebanon and the group Hendler uses 499 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 13: pages instead of mobile phones because they've had experience in 500 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 13: the past with them being blown up, being tampered with 501 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 13: by Israel, and so they thought pages were safe, but 502 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 13: it seems that isn't the case. Extraordinary footage is coming 503 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 13: out of these pages, detonating across the country, severely im 504 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 13: injuring people in this network and even killing some of 505 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 13: them as well. 506 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 2: In no word as you say it from Israel. Let's 507 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 2: talk about the UK teenagers being hit with some new 508 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: Instagram restrictions. 509 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 510 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 13: Instagram has been coming under increasing press pressure here in 511 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 13: the UK when it comes to young people. There has 512 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 13: been incidences where people, very young people have been sort 513 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 13: of fed through the algorithm self harm and even pro 514 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 13: suicide material and there have been some tragic events in 515 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 13: relation to that. And Instagram has been trying to combat this, 516 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 13: and now they're rolling out special accounts from thirteen to 517 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 13: fifteen year olds. You can't be on it younger than thirteen. 518 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 13: This will give sort of everything will be immediately locked away. 519 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 13: It'll be the parents only who can control the settings 520 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 13: on this And it's a way that the NSPCC, which 521 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 13: is our child Protection area agency here, says that Instagram 522 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 13: is going in the right direction, but it's still not 523 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 13: doing enough. It's still not properly verifying people's ages, and 524 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 13: the emphasis is on the parents and the children, not 525 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 13: Instagram itself, to make sure that it is a safe 526 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 13: environment for people to be on. 527 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: Insane, isn't it. Thank you very much for that. Vincent Macaviny, 528 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: a UK and europe correspondent, just gone eleven minutes away 529 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 2: from six Imagine that you can have a product, and 530 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 2: you are legally able to sell a product and to 531 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 2: promote a product that is giving some young people thoughts 532 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: and ideas about how to end their own lives. It 533 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: just blows the mind, doesn't it. Eleven to six Bridge. 534 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: Speaking of young people, the number of criminal charges against 535 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 2: children and teenagers has spiked in the last year, theft, robbery, 536 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: burglary all seeing the biggest increases. According to data from 537 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: the Ministry of Justice, there were more than five thousand 538 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: theft charges against those aged ten to seventeen, which is 539 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: a forty one percent increase compared to the previous year. However, 540 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 2: the number of young people charged hasn't gone up nearly 541 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: as steeply, meaning that young offenders are on average committing 542 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: more crimes per person. Aaron Hendry is a youth development worker. 543 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 2: Is with us this morning. 544 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: Hey Erin, Hey good mate. 545 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: Good thank you, thanks for being with me this morning. 546 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 2: Does this mean that we've got more hardcore young criminals, 547 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: young offenders. 548 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 3: I think what's really important to look at there is 549 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: one of those increase in the data is theft. 550 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 9: Right. 551 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 3: One of the key drivers of youth crime is poverty 552 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: and inequality. A lot of the policies that we've seen 553 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 3: go out just recently accreating that environment where these sort 554 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: of crimes would increase. You know, we're seeing more young 555 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 3: people pushed in the hardshat, pushed into poverty, pushed into homelessness, 556 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: and so it's not really surprising to see this data. 557 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: Are they stealing bread or are they stealing jewelry, vakes 558 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: and booze. 559 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 3: It's often a matter of survival, right, So the product 560 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: isn't necessarily what we focus on. It's actually the reason 561 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 3: why they're doing it, right, So that theft is often 562 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 3: very much connected to needing to get by, about being 563 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 3: pushed into environments where they're desperate and they see this 564 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: is the only way out. 565 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: But if you're stealing vapes, I mean, you don't need 566 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: that for survival do you. 567 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, I mean in terms of vapes specific products. 568 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 3: You know, at times it sound selling, it's times it's 569 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: because you're working. You know, For every gang or a community, 570 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: the bigger issue is the reason why those young people 571 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 3: and those children are in the environment in the first place. 572 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 3: And what we know is the context for a lot 573 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: of these young people is they're coming from homes where 574 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot of poverty, where there's housing and security. 575 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: Some of these young people are experiencing homelessness, and that 576 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: is the key driving factor is why they're involved in 577 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: this behavior in the first place. 578 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: The cops did a big common Chero's announcement yesterday that 579 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: going after that gang that we've somewhat imported from Australia. 580 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: Do you think that that will solve our problems? You know, 581 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,239 Speaker 2: because obviously there's young people out there who are at 582 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: a loose end. We don't want them joining gangs. Do 583 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: you think this is going to make a difference. 584 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: I think if we are really serious about seeing some 585 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: change in this area, then we need to really aggress 586 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 3: with what the evidence is right and what we know 587 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: about how we reduce youth crime. Is we focus very 588 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 3: much on what is going on in the environment of 589 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 3: those young people. And so a lot of the young 590 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 3: people that we know that are coming through the justice system, 591 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 3: they're coming from homes where there's extreme poverty, there's inequality, 592 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 3: there's homelessness, there's a lot of mental health trauma, addiction disabilities, 593 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: and there's real lack in our services in our community 594 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: to respond to that. What we've seen over the last 595 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: six eight months is services being shut down across the country. 596 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: Those early intervention services we really need in our communities 597 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 3: we able to respond to this stuff. They were already 598 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: under pressure before the government's decisions, they're under more pressure 599 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: now what we've seen in the justice system making it 600 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: harder to get benefits, to be able to get sheltered 601 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 3: through emergency accommodation. That increases their environment where people are 602 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: more desperate, and we would see these sort of things occur. 603 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 2: Right Aaron, thank you very much for your time this morning. 604 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming on the show. That's Aaron Hendry, 605 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: a youth development worker seven minutes away from six News 606 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 2: Talk said. 607 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 4: B News and Views you trust to start your day. 608 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith. City New 609 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 4: Zealand's furniture beds and a playing store. News Talk Zaid b. 610 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: Five away from six News Talks, said, b welcome to 611 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: you Wednesday morning. Everyone's really into this exploding pages story, 612 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: the hez Bulle terrorists in Lebanon. Peter is just throwing 613 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 2: his theories out there. He says, I believe this was 614 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: as a result of someone sending a battery overload signal 615 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: via the pager network system. Scary, Mike's with us now heym. 616 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 5: Or Israel on one of the one or the other. 617 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 2: Well, Israel might have sent the signal. I think that's 618 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: what he's say. Have you used a pager? 619 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 3: Just no, I have not. 620 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 5: I've never used a fax. I've never used a pager. Okay, 621 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 5: and I bought my first mobile phone. 622 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: I'm just doing the numbers on how old you might be. 623 00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 2: We were having though. 624 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 5: We were having this discussion the other day with the 625 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 5: boss findily enough, and one of the first things back 626 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 5: in the days when I was an idiot with money, 627 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 5: I bought a Beta video machine. Remember Beta, I won't 628 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 5: even remember. So there was a big thing going on 629 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: with Beta versus VHS. So what you have Beta was 630 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 5: a format that was potentially god I cannot believe I'm 631 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: explaining the studio so so Beta was a format that 632 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 5: was potentially going to take over VHS. So I go 633 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 5: out and buy the wrong format. Format dies. I've got 634 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 5: a two thousand dollars machine. The other thing I bought 635 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 5: was the very first remember the brick, you know, the 636 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 5: famous brick, the motor roll of YEP. I bought one 637 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 5: of those. And the thing about it was it was 638 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 5: this is nineteen eighty three eighty four, and so it 639 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 5: was two thousand dollars. Work it out, two thousand dollars. 640 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 5: In eighty three eighty. 641 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 2: Four, we had a VHS that had a cord on it, 642 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 2: the remote control. Did you have a cord? My dad 643 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: had one of those, And so here's the coin. You 644 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: couldn't go too far from the televichiine and you use 645 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 2: it to whip your brothers when they wouldn't change the channel. 646 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 2: What's on the show today, teachers and why no one 647 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: wants to be one? 648 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 5: Apart from the part from the money, yeah, the pay 649 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 5: and putting up with the K's exactly three away from 650 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 5: six to mic next. 651 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: See you tomorrow 652 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 4: For more from News Talk sed B, listen live on 653 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 4: air or online and keep our shows with you wherever 654 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 4: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio