1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickots on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: earlier this show with one roof love where you Live 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: News Talk said. 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Be welcome one to you and welcome to the program, 5 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: and thank you so much for choosing us. Coming up 6 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: over the next hour, the Education Minister has rejected recommendations 7 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: to tight enough our tertiary qualifications. I'll ask the question, 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 2: has our tertiary sector being dumbed down? And we'll have 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: that story for you. In five tourism numbers are up, 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: but how can we move the needle even higher? That story? 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 2: In ten, should we pull out of the Paris climbate 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: a cord. I've got some thoughts, but we'll talk to 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: fed farmers to see if they welcome this move or 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: does it have fish hooks for our cornerstone industry of farming. 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: And we'll talk about the Westport man who was struck 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: by lightning who claims his gun boots saved his life. 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: We'll have that story plus correspondence from around the world. 18 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: It's Gavin Gray from the UK today and correspondents from 19 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: around New Zealand and you can have your say on 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: the text. The number is ninety two ninety two and 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: a small charge applies to five the agenda. At Wenesday, 22 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: the third of September, the stage is set in the 23 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: heart of Beijing for a grand display of power at 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: military that's all been choreographed by President Jesimping. 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 3: The parade is important. 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: It will highlight the discipline of our soldiers and our 27 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: morale will be high. 28 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the parade will showcase China's strength and let 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 4: the world know we are big country and we have power. 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Yes. Well, there's twenty six world leaders there looking at 31 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: a new world order. Putins their body is there, and 32 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: for the very first time, Kim Jong un. They're all 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: fronting up together. Putin's been meeting with Xi ahead of 34 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: the parade to. 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 4: Please I thank you for the warm welcome extended to 36 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: our entire delegation. Our close communication reflects the strategic nature 37 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 4: of Russia China relations, which are at an unprecedentedally high level. 38 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Now to America, where there's another legal loss for Donald trumpet. 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 2: Judge in California has blocked the president's move to send 40 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 2: the National Guard into Los Angeles, saying it breached laws 41 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: banning military use on domestic soils. Now the ruling's on 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 2: hold for now and Donald Trump's expected to appeal. 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 5: At this point, it only applies to California. The present 44 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 5: is thinking about sending troops into Chicago in the coming 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 5: days to help with law enforcement. Obviously, that will create 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 5: another legal challenge from the state of Illinois in the 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: city of Chicago. I think what the administration will do 48 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: is argue that this is a district court and it 49 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 5: doesn't really have the power to constrain the authority of 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: the President. 51 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: And finally some Madonna is After months of speculation, Anna 52 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: Wintur has announced a new top editor at both Enna 53 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 2: announced in June. She of the Big, Big Sunglasses All 54 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: Day Night. Anna announced in June that she was stepping 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: down from the role she heild for almost forty years, 56 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 2: and now Chloe Mahler, who currently serves as editor will 57 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: step up as the head of editor editorial content for 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: Vogue US. Thank you, Anna, Bye bye. 59 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day Early 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickins and One Root Love Where You Live. 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: News Talk sa'd be It is now ten minutes after 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: five yesterday, the Prime Minister was on the good News 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: trail talking up Amazon's seven point five billion dollar investment 64 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: in data centers around Auckland. It's right up as aali. 65 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: He's long said that foreign investment is needed in New Zealand, 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: but to be faired, this has nothing to do with 67 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: the current government, and Christopher Luxen was actually quite open 68 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: about that. Amazon actually unveiled the plans back in twenty 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: twenty one, saying the data centers would open in twenty 70 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: twenty four. Construction, however, was holded in twenty twenty three, 71 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: but they pulled their finger out last December. They said 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: the data centres would open this year, and now they have. 73 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: The company has also confirmed yesday it is still investing 74 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: seven point five billion and would support an average of 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: more than one thousand full time equivalent jobs, and they 76 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: reckon they will add ten point eight billion dollars to 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: our economy. So this is all good, isn't it. But 78 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: some don't like it because it's Amazon, because it's Jeff Bezos, 79 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: because it eats up more of our precious power, and Amazon, 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: of course undermines local manufacturing and retailing and wage rates. However, 81 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: Amazon will be employing in the high skilled areas, So 82 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: this is telecommunication engineers, data wranglers, all those sorts of 83 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: people and we should not quibble because all investment is 84 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: good investment. It stirs the cash in the pot. So 85 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: foreign investment is fine, but you know, local investment is 86 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: infinitely better because local investment means local profits stay in 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: our country, and that really keeps the wheels going round. 88 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 2: I heard some talkback on this with the Boys yesterday afternoon. 89 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: In one caller criticize the government's belief that foreign investment 90 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: is the answer to all our economic problems. He said, 91 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: that's naive, and our problems run far deeper than a 92 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: lack of foreign investment, and he's not wrong. In the weekend, 93 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: Liam Dan wrote about our cost of living crisis. He 94 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: did what good journalists do, found that a pound of 95 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 2: butter is pretty much the same price all around the world, 96 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: and he said, we do not have a cost of 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: living crisis. We have a wage crisis, which means we 98 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: can't afford our products and the services we need. And 99 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: our low wages are not because of a lack of 100 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: foreign investment, because actually there's already plenty of that about already, 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: but because we have a wealth creation crisis. The real 102 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: answer to our malaise is that New Zealanders need to 103 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: make stuff and products that people overseas buy and New 104 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: Zealanders need to invest in New Zealand businesses that create 105 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: the wealth. Andrew Dickens twelve after five and speaking of 106 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: wealth to our cornerstone of our economy. The Global Dairy 107 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: Trade Auction was out today, prices down azero point three percent. 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: What can I tell you? Butter down two point five percent, 109 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 2: So maybe we might see that powder butter go down 110 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: a little bit and whole milk powder down minus five 111 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: point three percent. We're going to talk more about farming 112 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: a bit later on. Farmers is joining us in the show. 113 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 2: But next the universities. Too many people are giving away 114 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: too many, too many easier degrees, too many easier masters, 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: too many easier PhDs. There was a push to make 116 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: it harder, but that's been rejected by Shane Retti. We're 117 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: going to ask a guy from Lincoln University and the 118 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: chair of the university's New Zealand what he thinks about 119 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: the minister's move. That's next on news Talk Zreb. 120 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Get ahead of the Headlines on early edition with Andrew 121 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: Dickens and one roof Love where you Live News Talks. 122 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: That'd be it's fifteen out of five so a push 123 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 2: to make our universities more elite has been shot down. 124 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 2: The government's rejected tougher entry rules and limits on who 125 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: can hand out or doctorates. It's accepted just twenty three 126 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 2: of sixty three recommendations from our report from the University 127 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: Advisory Group led by Peter Gluckman. So to talk about this, 128 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: let's talk to an educator. Grant Edwards is the vice 129 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 2: chancellor of Lincoln University and the university's New Zealand Chair 130 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 2: and joins me this morning. Good morning to your Grant, 131 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Good morning Andrew. Do you think we need more limits 132 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: on who can hand out our top academic qualifications? 133 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 3: No, I don't think we need further limits. Universities are 134 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: the terchi institutions that do research led teaching in New Zealand, 135 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: and so believe that research only masters and research PSDs 136 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: should be awarded in universities. 137 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: But it's also those other universities that hand out all 138 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: sorts of masters and all sorts of other things that 139 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: makes the people make the accusation that we've been dumbing 140 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: down our tertiary sector. 141 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's in terms of the high degrees in the 142 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 3: postgraduate space, we have a range of taught masters in 143 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: particular and postgraduate qualifications. I think there I don't think 144 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 3: there's any indication that those other institutes are actually dumbing 145 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: down in handing out those particular qualifications. As particular interest 146 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: here is in research masters and research PhDs, which with 147 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: universities being research led, there's an important place that they're 148 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: awarded in universities. 149 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 2: Okay, well that was that was my next question. Should 150 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: universities be the only ones that can award masters and PhDs? 151 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: I think, as I indicated to you, the in particular 152 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: research masters and PhDs should be in general awarded by 153 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 3: the universities in New Zealand. 154 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: Okay. 155 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: I heard Sandra Gray on our news this morning at 156 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 2: five am saying the real problem for our tertiary sector 157 00:08:55,400 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 2: is the funding model. Would you agree? 158 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: In terms of the funding model, there are many funding 159 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: systems around the world, and most end up with some 160 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: form of a private government funding contributions similar to us. 161 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: We can always look at our funding system and how 162 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: funding is distributed and how it's both education and research 163 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: funding is directed towards qualifications particular disciplines. However, present probably 164 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,719 Speaker 3: a long slow reduction and funding in real terms is 165 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: acting against the long term needs of the country and 166 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: probably just simply making changes in how we manage a 167 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: diminishing pool of funding won't serve university is all the 168 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,479 Speaker 3: country well in the longer. 169 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: Term, all right, Gret, itwas I thank you so much 170 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: time grants the ad vice chances of Lincoln University and 171 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: from Universities New Zealand. And you may remember Peter Gluckman 172 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: actually talked to hit the last night. That is up 173 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: on our website right now. Oh and more education news. 174 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Schools across New Zealand will be given cash to fix 175 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: up the failed experiment of open classrooms. This is a shock, 176 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: this is a surprise. Education Minister Erica Stamford made that 177 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: announcement on the Paddigawa Has issue show, which investigated the 178 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: problems the big old barn classrooms are causing. She said 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: schools could get money from a contestable fund based on 180 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: need to put in walls in the barns that have 181 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: been made. But here's the thing that I found quite amazing. 182 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: Erica revealed that she had ordered officials to determine the 183 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 2: scale of the problems because incredibly, the Ministry of Education 184 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: cannot tell us how many open planned classrooms that we 185 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: have even though the claims are over five billion dollars 186 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: has been spent on them. This is New Storks HEREB 187 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 2: it is five nineteen. Here's some good news for you. A. 188 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 2: Tourism numbers are up, but tourism people are not overly 189 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: happy with it all. Why well, that story is next 190 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: here on New Storks Here be nineteen after five on your. 191 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: Radio and online on iHeartRadio of Early Edition with Andrew 192 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: Dickens and one Root Love where you Live News Talks. 193 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: That'd be five twenty one act in New Zealand. First, A, 194 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: we should be pulling out of the Paris Climate Accord 195 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: because we're overdoing it. Do you agree? Do you know 196 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: that you can send me a text? Two ninety two. 197 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: Now here's the good news to us. Are back and 198 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 2: they're here to spend. An international visitor survey shows there 199 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: was a five percent increase in visitors over the last 200 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: year and their spending was up by four percent, as 201 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: pumping more than twelve billion dollars into the local economy. 202 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: So I'm joined now by Sam McKinnon from Hospitality New Zealand. 203 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: Go on to your Sam. 204 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 6: Thank you to Andrew. 205 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: You'd be a happy Camper. 206 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, obviously were pleased to see a list 207 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 6: and spend and arrivals. It's all about things trending in 208 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 6: the right direction for us. So yeah, positive to hear 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 6: that announcement yesterday. 210 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: So is five percent enough or could we kick it up? 211 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 6: Of course we'd love more. Hospitality is also very reliant 212 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 6: on the domestic market, and we're seeing a list there 213 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 6: as well. But you know it's similar sort of number 214 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: four percent, five percent into and seven percent christ Church. 215 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 6: But you know, we've come through a really challenging period, 216 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 6: so I guess seeing that the seeing that things are 217 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 6: trending upwards is a real positive science for us. 218 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, as you say, overseas tourism returning, but the 219 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: domestic spends returning, but maybe not enough is our real 220 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: problem at the moment that Kewis are reluctant to open 221 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 2: their wallets in the current economic environment. 222 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's definitely a contributing sector. I mean, hospitality is 223 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 6: definitely a discretionary spend and households are struggling to cover 224 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 6: the cost that they've already got. So we're aware that 225 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 6: any spend that we're getting as a benefit at the moment, 226 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 6: But I guess as we've started to see some of 227 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 6: those increases in income for households around OCR cuts and 228 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 6: that sort of stuff, where I guess some of seeing 229 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 6: some of that confidence flow back into hospitality spend, which 230 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 6: is all positive science heading towards the summer trading period. 231 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and as you would say to all keywis, get 232 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: out there and see your country and spin spin spend. 233 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, if you're able to get out and support hospitality. 234 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 2: Now, is this tourism uptick a bit more geographically targeted 235 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: than in the past, like pre COVID, like more and 236 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,119 Speaker 2: more people just go into Queenstown. 237 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 6: I think Queensland has seen a decent left in that spend. 238 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 6: I mean, obviously it's our primary tourism hotspot in New Zealand. See, 239 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 6: you'd expect that to be to see a good chunk 240 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 6: of that left and spend. I mean, I guess overall, 241 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 6: you know there's across New Zealand councilors are trying to 242 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 6: work through their destination management plans. Everyone's trying to get 243 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 6: a slice of the tourism pire. So as we see 244 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 6: that those numbers left, overall, we should see a bit 245 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: more of that regional dispersal come through. 246 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: Good stuff, Sam McKinnon, I thank you from Hospitality New Zealand. 247 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: And in more good news for the hospitality sector, it 248 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: was the government yesterday outline proposed changes to licensing rules 249 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: for the events sector and events planning, because like if 250 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: you go to a gig, you do like to get 251 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: a beer and at the moment it's really hard to 252 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: do that. But they're going to make that a lot 253 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: easier and the tourism sector is already appreciating this greatly. 254 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: It is News talks HEB. Should we pull out of 255 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: the Paris Climate Accord? That's the question on the table 256 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: and my thoughts. 257 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: Next the early edition Full the Show podcast on iHeartRadio 258 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: powered by News TALKSB. 259 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: Talks B Wednesday morning. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge 260 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: who's on holiday. He'll be back next week. So the 261 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: question put on the table yesterday should we pull out 262 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 2: of the Paris Climate Accord, got the backing of ACT 263 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: and New Zealand. First they said we should. We're over 264 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: doing it, and of course my first reaction is, of 265 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: course we should pull out. Yes, the thing isn't working. 266 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: It's never worked. It's always felt like something the world 267 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 2: does to make itself feel like it's doing something even 268 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: though it's doing nothing. When you combine that, the Paris 269 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 2: accords with the emissions trading scheme, which is a giant 270 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme made to make coldplate feel better about touring 271 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 2: the world at jetplanes, meanwhile filling up our pastures with 272 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: trees because of their guilt. The whole thing seems useless. 273 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, well meaning, but useless. So why be involved? 274 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: And we're so little? New Zealand's biggest contribution to CO 275 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: two numbers is our farming, which is a fairly benign 276 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: polluter because the world needs food just as much as 277 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 2: it needs oxygen. The world doesn't need more cheap genes 278 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: and plastic crap, but the people who make that stuff 279 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: are merely pumping rubbish into our atmosphere. We're making food here, 280 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: so why should we be punishing the cornerstone of our 281 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 2: economy making the food. We're in the scheme of things. 282 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: It contributes so little while the real polluters keep on polluting. 283 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, let's stand up, tell the world they're in 284 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: a fool's paradise of virtue signaling, and let's get on 285 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: with feeding the people. We can. But the rest of 286 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 2: the world, with the exception of the United States, still 287 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: believe in this, and they're the ones buying our food. 288 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: And there are also the ones who will find any 289 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: way to blacklist our awesome agricultural products. Boy, the Euros, 290 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: the Europeans, if they can find a chink in our armor, 291 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: they will, They'll say, you can't bring your butter here. 292 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: So pulling out of the parade may see us cutting 293 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: off our nose despite our face. It may reduce the 294 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: compliance costs on our farmers in the first instance, but 295 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: what's the point of that if it makes the rest 296 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: of the world turn their back on our milk and 297 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: butter of meat because they think we're filthy pollutzers. So 298 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: Act in New Zealand First may think that this posturing 299 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: is helping our farmers, but in fact, maybe it could 300 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: be penalizing them more if heavily and maybe Act in 301 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: New Zealand First er are just play acting this for votes, 302 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 2: just as much as the Paris Climate Accords are play 303 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: acting for the environment. So look, let's call this thing 304 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: for what it is. Say it doesn't work. But rather 305 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: than just pulling out a bit of a flounce, we 306 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 2: should be advocating for real change to the accords and 307 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: the policies and to actually get on with helping the environment. 308 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 2: You don't need some towny on the radio talking about this. 309 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to the Fed farmers just before six. 310 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: Is this going to help farmers or like I pointed out, 311 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: could it actually punish farmers by preventing us from exporting 312 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: the very stuff that our economy is built on. We'll see. 313 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: Also still to come. I've got a great story about 314 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: a guy in Westport who got hit by lightning. He 315 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 2: reckons its gun boots saved his life. We've got Gavin 316 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: Gray from the UK as well as the UK government. 317 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: It's even further than the doggy Doo Doo when it 318 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: comes to their economy and US is next. This is addition. 319 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 7: Sometimes I just can. 320 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Views and views you trust. To start your day. It's 321 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: early edition with Andrew Dickens and One roof Love, Where 322 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: you Live, News Talks at Ben Cold. 323 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 2: You goodbye, example, Welcome to your Wednesday. I'm Antree Dickinson 324 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: for Lion runs back on Monday. It's fair to say 325 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: that everyone's saying get out of the Paris climate of cords. 326 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 2: We'll find out what the farmers believed. Just before six o'clock. 327 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: I'll give you some of the reaction that's come from 328 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: farmers actually later on in the program, speaking of farmers, 329 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: did you hear this story. It's a Westport dairy farm 330 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: manager who was out and about Monday and he got 331 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 2: hit by lightning and he reckons. His gun boot saved 332 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: his life. Chris Wilson was on his squad bike herding 333 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 2: cows into the milking shed about six am on Monday. 334 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: Then when lightning struck, he saw the whitest light he's 335 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 2: ever seen. He passed out. He woke up stumped over 336 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: the bike and he couldn't see for about five or 337 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 2: ten minutes. He gathered up all the cows and he 338 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 2: went home and had some breakfast, and then over breakfast, 339 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: he spewed up a little, and as missus said, you'd 340 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 2: better go to the doctor. So he went to the 341 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: doctor and Buller Hospital picked him up. And he's got 342 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 2: migraines and stuff, and this lightning burnt a whole and 343 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 2: his gun boots. So he's written to scale up to 344 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: tell the gunboots, those gun boots saved my life. A 345 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: little bit of rubber insulation there. If you've been grounded, 346 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: maybe he could have died. Management should probably have told 347 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: him to stay in during the storm. But hold on, 348 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: Chris's management. He's the farmer. He made his decision to 349 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: go out in the storm, which brings me to the 350 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 2: closure of Cornwall Park during the weekend in Orkan. It's 351 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: been criticized as an abundance of caution, taking away our 352 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: personal responsibility. But hold on, using my power of personal responsibility, 353 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 2: you weren't going to find me wandering around one hundred 354 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 2: year old trees in the middle of the storm. So yeah, okay, 355 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: Cornwall Park may have gone too far, but surely all 356 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: they did was what anyone with an ounce of common 357 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 2: sense would have done anyway. And Chris, I'm glad you're okay, 358 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: but next time, don't go out in the storms. Andrew Dickens, 359 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: it's twenty two to six esco around the country to 360 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: our tiger we go Callum Proctor, good morning to you morning, Andrew. 361 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 2: So in Toneda and Queenstown people are using the buses. 362 00:19:59,640 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 6: They are. 363 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 8: The Otago Regional Council runs the public transport here and 364 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 8: they're reporting a seven year high four bus patronage. In fact, 365 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 8: record breaking numbers. Toned and passengers made more than three 366 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 8: point four million trips between July last year and June 367 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 8: this year. That's a thirty seven percent increase since twenty 368 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 8: eighteen nineteen, surpassing the heights of those pre COVID levels. 369 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 8: Queenstown recorded nearly two million trips, thirty three percent rise 370 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 8: compared to seven years ago. The regional Council says it's 371 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 8: encouraging to see these numbers drove despite MZTA subsidies declining. However, 372 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 8: they also recognize there's still work to be done, including 373 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 8: exploring public transport options in Omoru. 374 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: And what's the weather lake if you wait to get 375 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 2: the bus stop. 376 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 8: It's chilly this morning, frosts an areas here, but a 377 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 8: fine day nor easterly is developing. 378 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: Fourteen The high good stuff. Cless Sherman from Christis good morning, 379 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 2: Good morning. So we've got our white beta issue. 380 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, some. 381 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 10: Messy white bitas causing an issue. Andrew, We've got Wymark 382 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 10: at Eddy District Council planning to see and staff out 383 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 10: to check on these white baitas who have put up 384 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 10: some makeshift shelters along the northern banks of the Wymac River. 385 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 10: Pictures shared to our newsroom show several of these structures 386 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 10: and sort of camping setups, including tents, but also wooden 387 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 10: structures which have been erected along the banks since the 388 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 10: white baiting season started on Monday. A council spokesperson says 389 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 10: under the Pegasus Bay by law, overnight camping on the 390 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 10: beach all the sand dunes is not permitted. They say 391 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:32,199 Speaker 10: staff will be taking an education before enforcement approach, at 392 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 10: least in the first instance. 393 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: How's your weather fine? 394 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 10: Though frosty to start here as well. Northeasterly is developing 395 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 10: a bit later, are high of thirteen? 396 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 2: Thank you to Wellington. We go. Max Tol, good morning, 397 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: Good morning. You're a man of mystery. All I have 398 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: from you is disorder around the region, and I have 399 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: no idea what kind of disorder you're talking about. 400 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 11: Yeah, let me tell you, not good, as you can imagine. 401 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 11: We seem to be seeing a bit of a spate 402 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 11: of crime right across the Lower North Island lately. You've 403 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 11: had these gang shootings in LEAVENLA last month, a gang 404 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 11: relay disorder and Palmerston North two separate gun related incidents 405 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 11: there in a matter of hours. Also coming to light. 406 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 11: Yesterday was a very nasty attack in Lower Hut over 407 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 11: the weekend. The female manager of japan Mart, a shop 408 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 11: on the high Street beaten unconscious by a gang of 409 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 11: youths after banning them from her shop and trying to 410 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 11: call police. This was a group of young girls. Police 411 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 11: never came. We hope she's okay. We're trying to look 412 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 11: for an update. Meanwhile, three people also charged after allegedly 413 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 11: stealing a very large amount of meat from supermarkets here 414 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 11: in Wellington and Ireland Bay and Crofton Downs about one 415 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 11: thousand bucks worth targeted thefts. Thankfully they were tracked down. 416 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 11: Two young people and an eighteen year old man believed responsible. 417 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: Wellington. It's a great place when it's a nice day 418 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: speaking which how is the day? 419 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 11: Well, it is fine today, lighter winds getting up to 420 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 11: thirteen central. 421 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: Now I'm joined by Niva Ritchie Manno from Auckland, Hell 422 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 2: and Nava. Good morning. So the Auckland to Corrimandel fiery 423 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: used to run then it didn't run. That's coming back, yes, 424 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: yay yay. 425 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 9: So Explore group is rhein dating that very popular Auckland 426 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 9: to Corimantal ferry service just in time. For summer fullers 427 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 9: removed the summer service that was back in twenty twenty 428 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 9: two because of staff shortages. It's going to initially operate 429 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 9: the two hour services on a Friday, Saturday Sunday and 430 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 9: the first service will set sail on October twenty fourth. 431 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 9: The local businesses, the Coromandal Business Association says, look, it's 432 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 9: going to be great after the pandemic. Hopefully get more 433 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 9: tourists there, good news, increase their customer base as well. 434 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 2: Two things on that. Number one, when you do that, 435 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: you're lucky to see some dolphins in Orca because you 436 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: go right across the Firth of Terms. It's an amazing 437 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: ninety minute ride. I haven't been on it because they 438 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: keep on closing it down. 439 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 1: Yes, oh okay, right. 440 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: The other thing, I know a bloke who actually bought 441 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 2: some land who was going to build a batch in 442 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: Coromandal because he didn't want to actually do the big 443 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: drive because the drive is enormous and he wanted to 444 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: take the boat. But then so he bought the land 445 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: and then the boat stopped. Yes, of course, yeah, he 446 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 2: was not happy. 447 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 9: He was not happy, but hey, let's be positive about this. 448 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeahs back, it's but only on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. 449 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 7: Baby for starters. 450 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: And now how's the. 451 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 9: Weather partly cloudy, isolated morning, Charlesbourn a afternoon find spells 452 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 9: sixteen is a high here in Auckland. 453 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: And I thank you it is now seventeen to six. 454 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 2: The TEXTUS ninety two ninety two small charge applies textas say, 455 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: is great to see more bus users into Nedin. Shame 456 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: on the council announcement yesterday that they're increasing the bus 457 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 2: fares go figure. You know, there's no public transport that 458 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: actually covers costs, and you either get the bus fares 459 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: go up or you get the rates go up. So 460 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: good luck with that one. But I thank you in 461 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: a moment Gavin Gray out of the UK. It's always 462 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: pleasing to see that the UK is an even worse 463 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 2: financial stick than we are. How well, i'll tell you next. Now, 464 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: if you run a small business, you will know the 465 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: pain of waiting to get paid. You finish the job, 466 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: you send the invoice, and then you spend weeks chasing 467 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: people up like some sort of deck collector, and it 468 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: hits your cash flow. Zero's Tap to Pay powered by Stripe, 469 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: changes all that your customer taps the card on your 470 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 2: phone and boom, you're paid on the spot. No fancy 471 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: pain terminal needed, just the zero accounting app on your phone. 472 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: And here's a really smart bit. Once the payment goes 473 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: through the invoices automatically marked as paid in zero, ready 474 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 2: to be reconciled. 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So supercharge your business with zero tap to pay. 483 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 2: Getting paid just got a whole lot easier search, zero. 484 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: Tap to pay, International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, 485 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: peace of mind for New Zealand business. 486 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: Have been great from the UK. Welcome to the program, 487 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: Hi there, Andrew So. UK government long term borrowing costs 488 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 2: have reached their highest level since nineteen ninety eight. That's 489 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: not good economic news. 490 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 7: No, that is not good. So this basically is the 491 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 7: interest rates at which we the British, are being charged 492 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 7: for people that want to lend us money, and we 493 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 7: need that money because we are running at a massive, 494 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 7: massive overdraft, a massive national debt and the thirty year 495 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 7: government bonds, so that's the period of time it's paid 496 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 7: over with, known as the YELD. They jumped to five 497 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 7: point seventy two percent. So that means all of a sudden, 498 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 7: all of the forecasts that the government has been relying 499 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 7: on to basically outline the income and expenditure that it 500 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 7: wants to make and to bring in is all now 501 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 7: out of the window because suddenly everything's getting much more expensive. 502 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: Now. 503 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 7: The UK is not alone in seeing these borrowing costs arise, 504 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,239 Speaker 7: Andrew German, French and Dutch bonds also climbing to their 505 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 7: highest Why. Well, a lot is the instability coming out 506 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 7: of America with these trade policies and the upcoming confidence 507 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 7: vote in the French government as well weighing in people's 508 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 7: minds here in the EU. But this, I think is 509 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 7: now going to push this government here in the UK 510 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 7: into raising income tax levels or at least other big 511 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 7: taxes here because if the government wants to to remain 512 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 7: within its tax and spending rules, it's going to have 513 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 7: to do something. 514 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. Meanwhile, another CEO who has lost his job 515 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: after a romantic relationship with a direct subordinate. 516 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 5: Yes. 517 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 7: Now, this is the Swiss food giant Nesle. Of course, 518 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 7: they're famous for things like Kitcat chocolate bars and espresso 519 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 7: coffee capsules, etc. Say that Lauren Frize has been dismissed 520 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 7: with immediate effect following an investigation led by an independent 521 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 7: director and Nesle's chair. It's understood but not confirmed. The 522 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 7: inquiry into his behavior was triggered by a report made 523 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 7: through his company's whistle blowing channel. These of course reports 524 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 7: now about you know, how employees should feel free to 525 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 7: report anything that they think is untoward. And the Nesle 526 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 7: chair said it was a necessary decision the values of 527 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 7: the company and governance. They're very strong foundations for the company. 528 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 7: They thank him for his many years of service. But 529 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 7: this is certainly a bit of a shock. The Financial 530 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 7: Times here in London reporting that concerns were raised about 531 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 7: his relationship with an employee earlier this year. After an 532 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 7: internal investigation, the claims were found to be unsubstantiated, but 533 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 7: the complaints persisted, and according to that newspaper, Nesle conducted 534 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 7: another investigation with help from an outside council, after which 535 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 7: the claims were upheld. Now this, you'll know, of course, 536 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 7: is the longest in a long line. We've had other 537 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 7: companies here in the UK with similar issues. The BP 538 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 7: chief executive who led the oil job for three years, 539 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 7: Bernard Looney, he had to quit after admitting he was 540 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 7: not fully transparent over allegations about him. Steve Easterbrook was 541 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 7: fired by mc donald's in twenty nineteen after it found 542 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 7: he had consensual relationship with an employee, and that led 543 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 7: to a rather larger financial fine in the US misleading investors. 544 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 7: So companies very attuned now to perhaps things that twenty 545 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 7: thirty years ago might not have made the headline. 546 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 2: Absolutely don't fall with the crew and I thank you 547 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: so much, Gavin Gray from the UK. Or Meanwhile, I'm 548 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: seeing the BBC reporting that the Northern Lights are back 549 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 2: in big time and that means that the Australia, the 550 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: Aurora Australia is the southern lights. Our lights are back 551 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: as well, and apparently you're going to get a good 552 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: displayed this weekend. It is ten to six. All right, 553 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: our our climate targets getting in the way of our productivity. 554 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 2: Both act in New Zealand first have pledged to pull 555 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: out of the Paris Accords on their serious changes have made. 556 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 2: They say this is to stop putting pressure on farmers. 557 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 2: So how do farmers feel about this move? Wayne Langford 558 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 2: is Fed Farmers National President and joins me, Now go 559 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: on into your. 560 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 12: Wayne, Good morning, Andrew. 561 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 2: What do you reckon? 562 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 12: I mean it's the start of an encouraging conversation, but 563 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 12: I mean it's a bit of political bostero and I 564 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 12: think really well, we'd like is some action being taken 565 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 12: to to actually make those changes rather than just talking 566 00:29:58,920 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 12: about it. 567 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 2: You all know that the players Climate Accords for the 568 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: globe and not working. The omission trading scheme is not working. 569 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: It needs to be changed. But wood pulling out of 570 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: the accords actually put us in the naughty corner and 571 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: hurt farmers more. 572 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 12: Well, that's you know, that's certainly one view on it. 573 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 12: That the challenge for us is why the government just 574 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 12: getting on and making the changes that are needed so 575 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 12: that not only the rules that can prosper, but also 576 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 12: the rest of the New Zealand compostor because actually mentioned 577 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 12: it is holding back some of the New Zealand's prosperity. 578 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 12: And that's what the two parties they're talking about. They're saying, Hey, 579 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 12: how do we adjust this to make this a fit 580 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 12: better of what New Zealand is? Well, the last time 581 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 12: I checked, how you guys are in government? Why don't 582 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 12: you change it? 583 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Get on and door, So let me get this right. 584 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: Are you saying, yes, stay in the Paris Climate Accords, 585 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: but for God's sake, try and make some changes to 586 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: the whole things. Meanwhile, earn our domestic economy, make things 587 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: more rational. 588 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 12: Yeah, what we're saying is the climate rules will set 589 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 12: for ourselves a New Zealand hero. What causing the problem 590 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 12: not necessarily the Paris Agreement in itself. So we've got 591 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 12: overly ambitious methane targets where we're planning. We're doing full 592 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 12: farm from conversions into forestry conversions. But we were still 593 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 12: talking about planning pricing egg commissions. Why don't we just 594 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 12: scrapple that. Why don't we get that sorted so that 595 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 12: farmers know where we're sitting and we know what we're 596 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 12: doing in the country. 597 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: I'm getting a few techs some farmers right now who's saying, look, 598 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: I'm carbon neutral already. You know, we're actually doing a 599 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: very good job of producing very efficient meat with as 600 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 2: low a mission as you can possibly have. So are 601 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: farmers getting more appreciated with this new government than before? 602 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 12: Definitely, definitely they are. And we're certainly seeing that in 603 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 12: the results that we're getting thrown our surveying as well. 604 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 12: And while there is a lot of sentiment out there 605 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 12: around going out of Paris, I think when you dig 606 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 12: deeper and they're look into what's actually holding Paris packet 607 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 12: is actually what we're setting on ourselves as the government. 608 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 12: And that's what that's what we're saying about this announcement. 609 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 12: He we appreciate the conversation. We like what you're talking 610 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 12: about here both acting news on person. But by the 611 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 12: way you guys are in government, you guys can make 612 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 12: these changes. Now, just get on and make these changes 613 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 12: that farmers have got a clear road to heat. 614 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: Wayne, I thank you so much. Wayne Langford from Federated 615 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: Farmers News Talks at b It is seven to six. 616 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: The news you need this morning and the in depth 617 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: analysis early edition with Andrew Dickens and one Root Love 618 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: where you live, news talks. 619 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 2: At be so, as I said this morning, you don't 620 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: need a towny on the radio talking about the Climate 621 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 2: Accords for farmers. So here's a text from farmer called Grunt, 622 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: and Grant says, I'm a small farm. I have plenty 623 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: of trees and grass on the property to combat carbon 624 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 2: Our country shouldn't do anything different. We are relatively carbon neutral, 625 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: and we produce the best meat, and God knows the 626 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 2: world needs the meat. And as I said before, we're 627 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: kind of a benign polluter compared to everybody else. And 628 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking joins me, now, good morning morning A. 629 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 13: Hoggard on this former head of pharmacyse Days and ACTMP. 630 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 13: Of course, it's I don't subscribe to that old argument, 631 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 13: the old argument that you know, we don't pull. Therefore, 632 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 13: the whole idea behind it was that we play our part, 633 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 13: we are seen to do our part. And the most 634 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,479 Speaker 13: relevant argument I've heard this morning is the trade connection, 635 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 13: because a lot of people write it into FDA's and 636 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 13: so it's carbon miles and all that sort of stuff. 637 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 13: But ultimately, if it doesn't work, which it isn't, and 638 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 13: it never was going to. Then you've got to ask 639 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 13: the question eventually, don't you If it's not working and 640 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 13: we're not doing what it's set out to do, what's 641 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 13: the point. 642 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: That's the point. But at the same time, if you 643 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: pull out and then at the European say, oh well, 644 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: we're not going to take any of your milkle meat 645 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: to me. 646 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 13: Said that America is pulling out bad knock in Britain 647 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 13: when she gets to be Prime minister, which she will 648 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 13: or that party will one day. 649 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: They're pulling out. 650 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 13: So there's a move on. So I see more simply 651 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 13: reading the room. So well, talk to hohog out about 652 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 13: that and the tourism numbers this morning as well. And 653 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 13: a wine by the way, got some very good news 654 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 13: on one and a blow. The best story actually is 655 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 13: the bloke who's won a competition to design Liam Lawson's 656 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 13: helmet and has won it. 657 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: Lawson picked the winner. 658 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 13: He's won it, prize trip to Singapore to hand it 659 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 13: to him on the head of the F one Grand Prix. 660 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 13: How good. 661 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 2: So that's great, awesome Grand Prix at night, Lovely Town, 662 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: have a great show, Mike, Thank you so much for 663 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 2: the producer. Kenzie I'm Andrew Dick and see you again tomorrow. 664 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,919 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 665 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: to News Talks it Be from five am weekdays, or 666 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio