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Speaker 2: Hey are you great? New Zealanders?

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the podcast. Two three six four Wednesday, the

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Speaker 3: fifth and November. Guy Fawks Night Tonight, great show. Today

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Speaker 3: had a marathon chat about the unemployment rating young people

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Speaker 3: who cannot find a job for love nor money. So

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Speaker 3: some fantastic calls from parents and employers and all sorts

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Speaker 3: of really enjoyed that chat. Then we had a short,

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Speaker 3: sharp conversation about crazy driving on our roads. This is

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Speaker 3: on the back of you can still see it right now.

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Speaker 3: Just go on the Herald and have a look at

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Speaker 3: this video of this car driving down the motorway on

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Speaker 3: its rim Sparks are flying, it's swerving all over, spins,

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty crazy watch.

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Speaker 3: But that was a good chat, So good day, and

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Speaker 3: we'll do it all again tomorrow. Until then, download, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything

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Speaker 1: in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons News Talk

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Speaker 1: said me a.

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Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into today's show. So good to have your company

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Speaker 3: on this Wednesday afternoon. As always, hope you having a

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Speaker 3: great afternoon. We hev you're listening in this absolute stunning

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Speaker 3: country of ours.

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Speaker 2: Big show for you today.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Matt's he is off for the week,

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Speaker 3: missing my mate, but he'll be back next week after

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Speaker 3: three o'clock. There's a great story in the Herald today

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Speaker 3: about outstanding walks and huts outside of the Great Walks,

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Speaker 3: And as many of you will know, the Great Walks

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Speaker 3: booking system gets put up or was put up a

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Speaker 3: So if you want to try and do a Great

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Speaker 3: his apps actually a whole bunch of fantastic walks that

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Speaker 3: How are your job prospects looking right now?

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Speaker 3: Clearly that extra support is probably going to be financial.

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Speaker 3: you want to send an email. My email is Tyler

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 2: Afternoon to you.

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Speaker 3: It is a quarter past one and we're talking about

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Speaker 3: the unemployment rate. It's edged up to five point three percent,

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Speaker 3: If you lost your job over the past couple of years,

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Speaker 3: We hear time and time again that there are jobs

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Speaker 3: On two Tailer. Unemployment was predicted by the Reserve Bank

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Speaker 3: because of inflation caused by the labor government. That's from Jenny.

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Speaker 3: They certainly did anticippoint and anticipate there was going to

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Speaker 3: be a small rise in employment this quarter unemployment. Rather,

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Speaker 3: how about the government pauses immigration as soon as many

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Speaker 2: What does it do for the psyche being on job seeker?

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Speaker 3: Well, I really hope you find something James, And because

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Speaker 3: If someone's in Nelson and they're listening to to James

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said James. Thanks very much for giving me

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Speaker 3: ZB Afternoon to you, and that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 11: they're above it, they're above just doing a hard job.

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Speaker 2: Are you Are you in one of the regions, chef,

439
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Speaker 2: or are you in one of the metros where we're national?

440
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Speaker 7: We're national?

441
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Speaker 2: Right? Is that a part of it that you know

442
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Speaker 2: you're here?

443
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Speaker 3: James and Nelson who called through before, and no doubt

444
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Speaker 3: about it, Nelson has been hit pretty hard when it

445
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Speaker 3: comes to the job market, see Lords Carter, Holt, Harvey.

446
00:20:46,653 --> 00:20:49,413
Speaker 3: There's there's quite a bit of a downturn in that region.

447
00:20:49,533 --> 00:20:51,493
Speaker 3: But is a part of it that these you know,

448
00:20:51,573 --> 00:20:54,613
Speaker 3: younger people are loath to move out of where they

449
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Speaker 3: are to go to where the jobs are jobs I.

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Speaker 11: Mean potentially, I mean there's there's jobs everywhere. If you're

451
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Speaker 11: looking for them, and like you said, we we all

452
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Speaker 11: did ship jobs when we were younger. Sometimes you've just

453
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Speaker 11: got to be prepared to do the work.

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely, said Jeff, thank you very much for giving

455
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Speaker 3: me a buzz with there you go. So two sides

456
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Speaker 3: are two different sides of this conversation. You had young

457
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Speaker 3: James and Nelson who was trained up in it and

458
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Speaker 3: struggling not just to get a job in it, but

459
00:21:24,453 --> 00:21:27,653
Speaker 3: struggling to get any sort of job, and then Jeff,

460
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Speaker 3: who works for a fairly large company by the sounds

461
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Speaker 3: of it, and they are screaming out for good workers.

462
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Speaker 3: They can't find them, and when they do take somebody on,

463
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Speaker 3: they don't bother to turn up in the morning.

464
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Speaker 2: So what does he say, keen to get your experience? Oh, eight,

465
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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

466
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Speaker 3: This is a confusing part about it, right, And as

467
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Speaker 3: Jeff said, this is why a lot of people get

468
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Speaker 3: annoyed by these numbers, is that you hear the hard

469
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Speaker 3: luck stories, and there's a lot of them, and a

470
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Speaker 3: lot of them are very genuine, like James, for example.

471
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Speaker 3: But then you hear of those companies like Jeff and

472
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Speaker 3: say we've got the jobs just can't find the people

473
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Speaker 3: to turn up on a regular basis. It's that reliability.

474
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Speaker 3: That's what you want from a worker in the early stages.

475
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Speaker 3: I mean, you can give them a lot of a

476
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Speaker 3: lot of slack in many areas, but you need them

477
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Speaker 3: to turn up every day to do the work. But

478
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Speaker 3: what do you say, Oh, one hundred eighteen eighty is

479
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Speaker 3: that number to call? Headlines with ray Lean coming up?

480
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Speaker 3: Bag very surely.

481
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Speaker 12: US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis it's

482
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Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Northern regions continue to

483
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Speaker 12: lag on economic recovery, with the unemployment rate hitting five

484
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Speaker 12: point three percent in the September quarter. Almost one hundred

485
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Speaker 12: thousand of the one hundred and sixty thousand looking for

486
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Speaker 12: jobs are an Auckland, Northland, Waikatu and the Bay of

487
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Speaker 12: plenty En Parks CEO is delighted the government's asking Auckland

488
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Speaker 12: Council for feedback on a plan to almost triple the

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Speaker 12: venue's annual concerts from twelve to thirty two. Police say

490
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Speaker 12: there are critical injuries after a two vehicle crash at

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Speaker 12: Gordonton and Hamilton's Outskirts at the intersection of Pukitaha and

492
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Speaker 12: seeing a woman and Demn arrested. Angati Pois Treaty Settlement

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Speaker 12: Bill has passed its third reading in Parliament. It gives

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Speaker 12: effect to parts of a twenty twenty one deed of

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Speaker 12: settlement for the Hodarchy golf Ewe rich List. Family tensions

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Speaker 3: You very much, Railan. We're talking about the unemployment rate.

501
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Speaker 3: It has edged up to five point three percent. The

502
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Speaker 3: government is saying that this hopefully is the peak and

503
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Speaker 3: it will start to come down as the economy recovers.

504
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Speaker 3: I think we can all only hope that is the truth,

505
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Speaker 3: because it's been a long, slow slog through what has

506
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Speaker 3: been a terrible time. Let's be honest, it's been crap.

507
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Speaker 3: So hopefully that does start to come down. But no

508
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Speaker 3: doubt about it's been very tough for a lot of

509
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Speaker 3: people out there. But we've had a couple of calls

510
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Speaker 3: on different sides of this one. First we had James.

511
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Speaker 3: He's a young guy in Nelson. He's finished his course

512
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Speaker 3: in it, so he's got his degree ready to go.

513
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Speaker 3: Can't find a job in it because they are non existent,

514
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Speaker 3: but not even just it, he can't find a job

515
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Speaker 3: full stop in Nelson. Then we had a call from

516
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Speaker 3: Jeff and he is part of a very big organization

517
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Speaker 3: by the sounds of it, twenty five hundred employees and

518
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Speaker 3: they are screaming out for good workers was his choice

519
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Speaker 3: of words. Because they do employ people, but they're unreliable.

520
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Speaker 3: They only turn up for a couple of days and

521
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Speaker 3: then they never see them again. So somewhere in the

522
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Speaker 3: middle the truth lies. So keen to get your experiences. Oh,

523
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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty Are you more in line

524
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Speaker 3: with what James is experiencing if you're a parent and

525
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Speaker 3: you've had children who have just left school or university,

526
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Speaker 3: or are you more in line with what Jeff is

527
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Speaker 3: experiencing that it comes down to the reliability of current workers. Oh,

528
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Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

529
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Speaker 2: Quick?

530
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Speaker 3: Couple of texts before we go back to the phones.

531
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Speaker 3: The massive growth of artificial intelligence must be having an

532
00:25:04,133 --> 00:25:07,773
Speaker 3: effect on our job market, surely say no doubt about that.

533
00:25:08,413 --> 00:25:11,853
Speaker 3: Have any figures and whether that is being measured, But

534
00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:14,493
Speaker 3: you have to say AI and the emergence of AI

535
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Speaker 3: is coming fast and it is certainly having an impact

536
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Speaker 3: on the job market. What exactly that impact is, I'm

537
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Speaker 3: sure many people are looking into it.

538
00:25:23,653 --> 00:25:24,573
Speaker 2: And this one.

539
00:25:24,693 --> 00:25:29,493
Speaker 3: The worst unemployment areas are the areas where we had

540
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Speaker 3: the extended lockdown for Auckland, for example. That meant the

541
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Speaker 3: businesses are playing catch up. Yep, fair point. And this

542
00:25:37,173 --> 00:25:40,293
Speaker 3: one here totally agree with Jeff. We are a small employer,

543
00:25:40,533 --> 00:25:43,493
Speaker 3: can't hire warehouse workers. Every time we advertise we get

544
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Speaker 3: one hundred people applying from overseas. People are desperate to

545
00:25:46,653 --> 00:25:49,053
Speaker 3: come to work to New Zealand. In New Zealand, but

546
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Speaker 3: kiwis on unemployment are lazy and entitled.

547
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Speaker 2: Get a Steve.

548
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Speaker 5: Hi got a double degree in finance and bant mathematics

549
00:26:01,093 --> 00:26:05,373
Speaker 5: and I've try to get a job for eighteen months,

550
00:26:05,453 --> 00:26:10,373
Speaker 5: sent multiple cvs and letters out lot went to francial interustrictions,

551
00:26:10,413 --> 00:26:15,573
Speaker 5: et sexual banks, stockbrokers, boast of stop. Did them get

552
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Speaker 5: a response, Finally got a job.

553
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Speaker 7: They've been employed based on the same.

554
00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:23,133
Speaker 4: Company for the last thirty years, so this is not new.

555
00:26:25,333 --> 00:26:30,693
Speaker 5: Nineteen nineteen nineties during the Asian financial crisis when unemployment

556
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Speaker 5: was higher than it is now.

557
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Speaker 7: It's a cycle. I had sort of pointing the finger.

558
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Speaker 13: But the last twenty ideas the Williams who've only known

559
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Speaker 13: the good times up until COVID, the economy was doing

560
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Speaker 13: really well under both actually labor in national especially under

561
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Speaker 13: held in Clark and john Tes.

562
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Speaker 7: That went downhill after that. But it's you know, and

563
00:26:57,533 --> 00:26:59,373
Speaker 7: now the complained about AI had taken their jobs.

564
00:26:59,413 --> 00:27:02,613
Speaker 5: Where computers came in the nineties and displaced people, that

565
00:27:03,493 --> 00:27:06,893
Speaker 5: the Jenny came in and the eighteen ten seventeen nineties

566
00:27:07,213 --> 00:27:08,053
Speaker 5: displaced people.

567
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Speaker 7: It's a matter of life. There'll be more jobs in

568
00:27:10,733 --> 00:27:12,933
Speaker 7: the AI environment than what they're losing.

569
00:27:13,413 --> 00:27:16,453
Speaker 5: You'll see that people will be doing different jobs that

570
00:27:16,533 --> 00:27:17,533
Speaker 5: you haven't been invented.

571
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Speaker 7: So understanding that it's life, you just go to get

572
00:27:21,973 --> 00:27:24,773
Speaker 7: through and through it. It's not the government's fault, can

573
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Speaker 7: per se.

574
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Speaker 4: I mean, they don't help help much with the stupid

575
00:27:29,893 --> 00:27:32,853
Speaker 4: ideology policies, But at the end of the day, it's

576
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Speaker 4: a cycle that happens. Going to get through it. When

577
00:27:36,933 --> 00:27:39,413
Speaker 4: the finger is not going to work, et cetera.

578
00:27:41,133 --> 00:27:43,813
Speaker 3: Look, there is I agree with you and the fact

579
00:27:43,853 --> 00:27:47,493
Speaker 3: that it is cyclical, and there's been big financial downturns

580
00:27:47,533 --> 00:27:49,653
Speaker 3: in the past, and I was affected pretty heavily by

581
00:27:49,773 --> 00:27:52,453
Speaker 3: the GFC in two thousand and eight, and as you

582
00:27:52,573 --> 00:27:55,053
Speaker 3: mentioned there in the in the nineties you had the

583
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Speaker 3: the Asian Financial Market crisis, and there were many more

584
00:27:58,733 --> 00:28:01,413
Speaker 3: before that, And that is, you know, a fair thing

585
00:28:01,493 --> 00:28:03,613
Speaker 3: to say that a lot of young people, if they

586
00:28:03,653 --> 00:28:06,213
Speaker 3: were too young during the GFC, and many of them were,

587
00:28:06,613 --> 00:28:08,813
Speaker 3: they might have seen their parents struggle a little, but

588
00:28:09,093 --> 00:28:12,373
Speaker 3: by and large they escaped for that. So this has

589
00:28:12,493 --> 00:28:15,373
Speaker 3: been the longest or the heaviest down term they've faced

590
00:28:15,653 --> 00:28:18,293
Speaker 3: in their lifetimes. And as you say, perhaps it is

591
00:28:18,573 --> 00:28:21,293
Speaker 3: this is hard at the moment, and things will get

592
00:28:21,333 --> 00:28:23,613
Speaker 3: better at some stage, and that's just the way of

593
00:28:23,653 --> 00:28:25,693
Speaker 3: the world that we have these downturns and push through.

594
00:28:25,773 --> 00:28:27,973
Speaker 3: But part of me, Steve, thinks this one is a

595
00:28:28,013 --> 00:28:32,173
Speaker 3: little bit different. It's longer, it's been harder, the promises

596
00:28:32,173 --> 00:28:35,333
Speaker 3: of green shoots have taken a lot longer than economists

597
00:28:35,373 --> 00:28:38,093
Speaker 3: than anybody else predicted. And then as you say, AI

598
00:28:38,493 --> 00:28:40,613
Speaker 3: coming in the midst of while we're just about to

599
00:28:40,653 --> 00:28:43,293
Speaker 3: get to recovery time and then have the threat of

600
00:28:43,373 --> 00:28:47,693
Speaker 3: AI hanging over us. I worry that this feels a

601
00:28:47,773 --> 00:28:48,613
Speaker 3: bit different this time.

602
00:28:49,813 --> 00:28:52,133
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little bit different this time because what the

603
00:28:52,213 --> 00:28:57,533
Speaker 5: labor government did with their cash flowing and plating acidic prices,

604
00:28:57,573 --> 00:28:59,173
Speaker 5: with all the cash that they're pumped in the economy.

605
00:28:59,453 --> 00:29:03,933
Speaker 5: And prior to that, there was a property boom, stock

606
00:29:04,013 --> 00:29:07,773
Speaker 5: market boom throughout from two twelve thirteen when the markets

607
00:29:07,853 --> 00:29:11,093
Speaker 5: turned up to GFC right through it. I work in

608
00:29:11,093 --> 00:29:14,533
Speaker 5: the finance industry, and I see people being I work

609
00:29:15,093 --> 00:29:18,333
Speaker 5: literally a company receiverships. I don't I'm not a receiver

610
00:29:18,853 --> 00:29:21,493
Speaker 5: or a liquidator. I'm involved in that area. So I

611
00:29:21,573 --> 00:29:24,693
Speaker 5: see people losing their jobs left, bright and center. And

612
00:29:24,853 --> 00:29:26,373
Speaker 5: it's a hard thing to deal with when you've got

613
00:29:26,413 --> 00:29:29,293
Speaker 5: customers that have been made redundant of the company who's

614
00:29:29,333 --> 00:29:30,213
Speaker 5: gone into liquidation.

615
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Speaker 7: And then you've got other people.

616
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Speaker 5: Moaning bys and newses and TECTI e cecure that are

617
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Speaker 5: not going to pay rise. At least these jobs are protected.

618
00:29:41,213 --> 00:29:44,573
Speaker 5: So you're one side of the economy that are mining

619
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Speaker 5: about they're not getting paid enough. You have much more

620
00:29:47,293 --> 00:29:49,493
Speaker 5: people that are unemployed you know, you're always people, so

621
00:29:50,173 --> 00:29:52,173
Speaker 5: you know, some people have just kicked back and take

622
00:29:52,253 --> 00:29:54,293
Speaker 5: a stock of themselves as what I'm saying is that

623
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Speaker 5: you know, right's got their own.

624
00:29:57,253 --> 00:29:59,693
Speaker 3: But now fair enough to steve and a lot of

625
00:29:59,693 --> 00:30:01,773
Speaker 3: people would agree with that, and you're not wrong. There's

626
00:30:01,773 --> 00:30:05,613
Speaker 3: been many financial downturns in history and in recent history

627
00:30:05,653 --> 00:30:08,053
Speaker 3: as well, and for many young people who are finishing

628
00:30:08,093 --> 00:30:11,373
Speaker 3: schoo leaving university, this will be the first one they

629
00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:13,653
Speaker 3: have faced, and they may face many more in the

630
00:30:13,773 --> 00:30:17,373
Speaker 3: years to come. But for me personally, the GFC, I

631
00:30:17,493 --> 00:30:19,613
Speaker 3: lost my job during the GFC and that was a

632
00:30:19,653 --> 00:30:22,093
Speaker 3: pretty tough time, but the rebound was a lot faster.

633
00:30:22,693 --> 00:30:26,533
Speaker 3: This has been a long, slow slog and that feels

634
00:30:26,653 --> 00:30:30,693
Speaker 3: like it's different. And you know, traditionally we have a

635
00:30:30,773 --> 00:30:33,813
Speaker 3: bit of a financial setback every ten to fifteen years,

636
00:30:34,573 --> 00:30:36,453
Speaker 3: and we're coming back up to that time. I mean,

637
00:30:36,533 --> 00:30:39,493
Speaker 3: God forbid things go pretty smoothly for the next few

638
00:30:39,613 --> 00:30:41,813
Speaker 3: years because we need it. But it does feel a

639
00:30:41,853 --> 00:30:44,133
Speaker 3: little bit different. Thank you very much for your call,

640
00:30:44,253 --> 00:30:46,813
Speaker 3: taking your experiences on this O eight one hundred and

641
00:30:46,853 --> 00:30:48,613
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty. If you've been looking for a job,

642
00:30:48,733 --> 00:30:52,253
Speaker 3: how has the search gone. How many applications have you made?

643
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:55,173
Speaker 3: And if you've got children at home they've just left

644
00:30:55,253 --> 00:30:58,013
Speaker 3: school of university, how are they finding it? It is

645
00:30:58,333 --> 00:31:00,013
Speaker 3: seventeen to two back very shortly.

646
00:31:00,173 --> 00:31:01,693
Speaker 2: You're listening to new Stalk ZB.

647
00:31:02,093 --> 00:31:05,533
Speaker 1: A fresh take on talkback. It's Matt Heathan Taylor Adams

648
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Speaker 1: Afternoons have your say on eight hundred.

649
00:31:10,413 --> 00:31:11,213
Speaker 2: Fourteen to two.

650
00:31:11,373 --> 00:31:14,773
Speaker 3: We're having a chat about the unemployment rate and how

651
00:31:14,933 --> 00:31:17,453
Speaker 3: the job market is where you are for yourself well

652
00:31:17,493 --> 00:31:20,653
Speaker 3: for your children. The youth unemployment rate has hit fifteen percent,

653
00:31:21,533 --> 00:31:23,693
Speaker 3: which is concerning or should be concerning to a lot

654
00:31:23,733 --> 00:31:24,013
Speaker 3: of people.

655
00:31:24,053 --> 00:31:29,933
Speaker 2: Get a rob How I'm good, mates, Kena on your experience.

656
00:31:31,173 --> 00:31:33,813
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm I'm located down on the Wayhadow and I'm

657
00:31:33,853 --> 00:31:37,013
Speaker 14: in regular contact with a lot of recruitment companies and

658
00:31:37,773 --> 00:31:40,093
Speaker 14: you know, the feedback from them is that there are

659
00:31:40,133 --> 00:31:42,933
Speaker 14: a lot of jobs that are available that they're really

660
00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:47,133
Speaker 14: struggling to find the right candidates. And I suppose due

661
00:31:47,173 --> 00:31:49,813
Speaker 14: to one of your earlier callers talking about, you know,

662
00:31:49,933 --> 00:31:52,893
Speaker 14: finding the right people with the work ethic right work ethic,

663
00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:56,373
Speaker 14: that might be part of the problem. But in saying that,

664
00:31:56,773 --> 00:31:58,493
Speaker 14: there does seem to be a bit of a rebound

665
00:31:59,173 --> 00:31:59,413
Speaker 14: in the.

666
00:31:59,493 --> 00:32:02,093
Speaker 7: Market at the moment. There are a lot more jobs coming.

667
00:32:01,933 --> 00:32:05,893
Speaker 14: Online that are available for people, which is encouraging, you know,

668
00:32:06,013 --> 00:32:08,973
Speaker 14: obviously in Hamilton, the fastest growing city in the country.

669
00:32:09,773 --> 00:32:11,733
Speaker 14: On the flip side of that, you were talking about

670
00:32:11,773 --> 00:32:15,573
Speaker 14: family experience and I have a daughter who's done an

671
00:32:15,613 --> 00:32:21,013
Speaker 14: innovation design degree and or find any work.

672
00:32:21,653 --> 00:32:23,573
Speaker 2: We just lost you there for a bet, Rob, Sorry,

673
00:32:23,693 --> 00:32:25,373
Speaker 2: just just picked back up. So we just lost you

674
00:32:25,493 --> 00:32:25,773
Speaker 2: for a bit.

675
00:32:25,813 --> 00:32:31,013
Speaker 3: You've got a daughter who's just finished an innovation design degree, correct.

676
00:32:30,813 --> 00:32:33,853
Speaker 14: Correct, Yeah, And you know she's applied for many jobs,

677
00:32:34,053 --> 00:32:37,253
Speaker 14: and you know they want one to two years experience minimum.

678
00:32:37,293 --> 00:32:39,413
Speaker 14: They want four to five years experience, you know, for

679
00:32:39,533 --> 00:32:42,493
Speaker 14: those lead and graphic design roles. And you know, I

680
00:32:42,853 --> 00:32:45,453
Speaker 14: send her frustration in the sense that she you know,

681
00:32:45,493 --> 00:32:47,493
Speaker 14: how do I get a job to get experience if

682
00:32:47,533 --> 00:32:48,933
Speaker 14: no one's going to give me the opportunity.

683
00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:51,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that is I mean, that is the dirty

684
00:32:51,893 --> 00:32:54,613
Speaker 3: part of many of those industries. And I'm not saying

685
00:32:54,693 --> 00:32:59,573
Speaker 3: that you know necessarily they are doing people at your

686
00:32:59,653 --> 00:33:02,773
Speaker 3: daughter wrong, but you're quite right, it's impossible to try

687
00:33:02,813 --> 00:33:06,013
Speaker 3: and get experience to get into the industry. She's trained

688
00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:09,093
Speaker 3: for without somebody giving her a shot, and shots are

689
00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:13,533
Speaker 3: few and far between, right, Yeah, absolutely.

690
00:33:13,093 --> 00:33:16,333
Speaker 14: You know she's she has great work ethic and you

691
00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:18,573
Speaker 14: know she's got a creative mind that she just wants

692
00:33:18,653 --> 00:33:21,053
Speaker 14: to you know, be able to share and give them

693
00:33:21,093 --> 00:33:23,493
Speaker 14: the opportunity. I know she'd do a damn good job.

694
00:33:24,413 --> 00:33:27,493
Speaker 3: So if they're asking for people with experience, and you've

695
00:33:27,493 --> 00:33:29,613
Speaker 3: got people like your daughter, she's trained in it, she's

696
00:33:29,653 --> 00:33:32,253
Speaker 3: got her degree, she's ready to go, but she just

697
00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:34,093
Speaker 3: needs someone to give her a chance. How are they

698
00:33:34,133 --> 00:33:37,973
Speaker 3: filling these positions? Are they filling them with people? International people?

699
00:33:38,013 --> 00:33:38,453
Speaker 2: They must be?

700
00:33:39,933 --> 00:33:43,853
Speaker 14: Well, potentially there could be, but yeah, I don't really

701
00:33:43,973 --> 00:33:46,973
Speaker 14: know who it is. You know, if there's you know,

702
00:33:47,173 --> 00:33:51,373
Speaker 14: not those types of qualified uh great, you know a

703
00:33:51,493 --> 00:33:55,133
Speaker 14: degree earners out there? You know who who is filling

704
00:33:55,173 --> 00:33:55,533
Speaker 14: the jobs?

705
00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:55,893
Speaker 1: I don't know.

706
00:33:56,253 --> 00:33:59,013
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know it's as a whole.

707
00:33:59,253 --> 00:34:01,053
Speaker 14: The market's starting to turn down here in the way

708
00:34:01,133 --> 00:34:04,493
Speaker 14: auto and there's a lot more buoyancy in the recruitment companies.

709
00:34:04,533 --> 00:34:06,933
Speaker 14: But you know they have said previously they've really struggled,

710
00:34:07,093 --> 00:34:10,853
Speaker 14: you know, to find people to fit the job specific.

711
00:34:11,373 --> 00:34:13,332
Speaker 3: It's good to hear. I mean Hamilton that is going

712
00:34:13,373 --> 00:34:17,333
Speaker 3: gangbusters at the moment. You know, that's absolutely yeah, yeah,

713
00:34:17,413 --> 00:34:19,973
Speaker 3: it's a good place Hamilton. People like to make fun

714
00:34:20,013 --> 00:34:22,493
Speaker 3: of Hamilton, but boy, oh boy, she is growing fast

715
00:34:22,573 --> 00:34:24,093
Speaker 3: and good to hear that they've got some jobs. But

716
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:26,893
Speaker 3: so it's a great point Rob makes is over the

717
00:34:26,973 --> 00:34:28,933
Speaker 3: course of my career, people have taken a punt on

718
00:34:29,013 --> 00:34:31,733
Speaker 3: me or given me an opportunity, particularly in the early stages,

719
00:34:32,053 --> 00:34:34,093
Speaker 3: even for the manual work, when I knock on doors

720
00:34:34,173 --> 00:34:35,893
Speaker 3: and say, hey, did you have any work in the

721
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:39,333
Speaker 3: laboring positions? And mentioned before there were some summers that

722
00:34:39,413 --> 00:34:41,453
Speaker 3: I just rang through builders to see if I could

723
00:34:41,693 --> 00:34:44,333
Speaker 3: push a wheelbarrow whatever they needed me to do. But

724
00:34:44,493 --> 00:34:47,013
Speaker 3: you're still got to have people to take a chance.

725
00:34:47,613 --> 00:34:50,333
Speaker 3: But I understand when you hear from people like Jeff

726
00:34:50,373 --> 00:34:52,533
Speaker 3: and they take a chance on some workers and get

727
00:34:52,693 --> 00:34:55,973
Speaker 3: let down and get burned, then that's the last time

728
00:34:56,053 --> 00:34:59,133
Speaker 3: you give someone a shot. Right If you're an employer

729
00:34:59,413 --> 00:35:02,373
Speaker 3: O eighte hundred and eighty ten eighty, are you still

730
00:35:02,453 --> 00:35:05,533
Speaker 3: willing to give young workers, young kiwi's a shot even

731
00:35:05,573 --> 00:35:07,973
Speaker 3: if they might not have the perfect CV. Have you

732
00:35:08,013 --> 00:35:10,373
Speaker 3: given someone a shot because you can sense that they've

733
00:35:10,413 --> 00:35:11,292
Speaker 3: got good work ethic.

734
00:35:11,413 --> 00:35:13,413
Speaker 2: Love to hear from you. We are a bit late.

735
00:35:13,453 --> 00:35:15,693
Speaker 2: We'll play some messages, but we've got plenty of calls

736
00:35:15,773 --> 00:35:18,013
Speaker 2: to get to. It is ten minutes to two.

737
00:35:19,653 --> 00:35:23,213
Speaker 1: Madd Heath Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

738
00:35:23,213 --> 00:35:27,573
Speaker 1: and eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams. Afternoons, News Dogs.

739
00:35:28,653 --> 00:35:31,293
Speaker 2: News doorgs they be. It is eight to two Helen

740
00:35:31,493 --> 00:35:32,213
Speaker 2: very good afternoons.

741
00:35:32,973 --> 00:35:36,453
Speaker 15: Yeah, hello, Hi Tyler, thanks for taking my call. Now,

742
00:35:37,253 --> 00:35:40,213
Speaker 15: I'd like to stress what I'm going to suggest is

743
00:35:40,853 --> 00:35:44,653
Speaker 15: where practical right, But I feel that with some of

744
00:35:44,733 --> 00:35:49,653
Speaker 15: these outside jobs, it's just very unrealistic to expect people

745
00:35:49,773 --> 00:35:53,533
Speaker 15: to be anybody to be working outside in this terrible

746
00:35:53,573 --> 00:35:55,692
Speaker 15: heat that we have in the top of the top

747
00:35:55,733 --> 00:35:58,853
Speaker 15: of the day. Now I live rually. I've got a

748
00:35:59,493 --> 00:36:03,772
Speaker 15: few cattle. I used to work out, you know, work

749
00:36:03,853 --> 00:36:06,773
Speaker 15: outside during the midday sunt but I just can't do

750
00:36:06,973 --> 00:36:12,053
Speaker 15: this anymore. I'm a redhead, I'm no wimp. People can't

751
00:36:12,613 --> 00:36:15,733
Speaker 15: finding this is too hard. I've being written off as whimps.

752
00:36:15,813 --> 00:36:18,292
Speaker 15: Now when I when I was young, I went fruit

753
00:36:18,373 --> 00:36:22,973
Speaker 15: picking and mildua and we worked. We started really early

754
00:36:23,053 --> 00:36:27,133
Speaker 15: in the morning and then we had from about eleven

755
00:36:27,173 --> 00:36:29,933
Speaker 15: o'clock to about two or three or something like that.

756
00:36:30,413 --> 00:36:34,653
Speaker 15: We we didn't work right, but we did our social

757
00:36:34,733 --> 00:36:36,733
Speaker 15: life and stuff because we went to a group of

758
00:36:36,813 --> 00:36:39,652
Speaker 15: friends and then we worked again in the evening. Now,

759
00:36:39,813 --> 00:36:44,093
Speaker 15: in Mediterranean countries they don't work like this. They they

760
00:36:44,173 --> 00:36:46,973
Speaker 15: have they have it off during the during the day,

761
00:36:47,093 --> 00:36:48,733
Speaker 15: you know, they have a break in the middle of

762
00:36:48,773 --> 00:36:52,133
Speaker 15: the day. Now, I'm suggesting that maybe some of these

763
00:36:52,173 --> 00:36:55,013
Speaker 15: employers who are finding it hard to get workers might

764
00:36:55,253 --> 00:36:58,973
Speaker 15: like to take up this option. We're practical, just a suggestion,

765
00:36:59,173 --> 00:37:02,212
Speaker 15: but these can pictures now with the sun, it's really

766
00:37:02,293 --> 00:37:05,253
Speaker 15: really burning and hot. I've talked to people from Cambodia.

767
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:07,453
Speaker 15: They say, the son's nothing like this there.

768
00:37:07,693 --> 00:37:08,173
Speaker 16: You know it.

769
00:37:08,373 --> 00:37:10,893
Speaker 3: If you're fear hered and red headed Helen, then that

770
00:37:11,013 --> 00:37:12,692
Speaker 3: that is tough. But I think, I mean it's fair

771
00:37:12,733 --> 00:37:16,652
Speaker 3: to say there's obviously health and safety operations in place

772
00:37:16,733 --> 00:37:19,613
Speaker 3: and regulations, so you know, the likes of Australia when

773
00:37:19,653 --> 00:37:24,333
Speaker 3: you go pecking pineapple and watermelon, clearly you can only

774
00:37:24,373 --> 00:37:26,293
Speaker 3: work on sooner hours of the day because it's too hot.

775
00:37:26,493 --> 00:37:28,692
Speaker 3: So if there are industries where it gets too hot

776
00:37:28,773 --> 00:37:31,333
Speaker 3: and it's not safe to work anymore. I'm sure they

777
00:37:31,453 --> 00:37:34,853
Speaker 3: will start to alter how those workers work.

778
00:37:36,653 --> 00:37:39,533
Speaker 15: Yeah, And it was just a suggestion because nobody I

779
00:37:39,653 --> 00:37:42,493
Speaker 15: know works like this, you know, so they tend to

780
00:37:42,853 --> 00:37:44,652
Speaker 15: you get a contract, you and they work all day.

781
00:37:44,813 --> 00:37:47,333
Speaker 15: And I'd be quite happy for people to say that

782
00:37:47,413 --> 00:37:49,853
Speaker 15: we'll come back when it's cool. Fine with that.

783
00:37:50,093 --> 00:37:52,093
Speaker 2: It's a good suggestion and fair enough to Helen.

784
00:37:52,293 --> 00:37:55,293
Speaker 3: What I will say though, is for those entry level

785
00:37:55,373 --> 00:37:58,853
Speaker 3: jobs or your first jobs, it is kind of part

786
00:37:58,893 --> 00:38:00,333
Speaker 3: and parcel that you know it's going to be hard

787
00:38:00,413 --> 00:38:03,172
Speaker 3: yaker and it's not going to maybe be a job

788
00:38:03,213 --> 00:38:05,773
Speaker 3: that you want to do forever. But you've got to

789
00:38:05,853 --> 00:38:07,973
Speaker 3: dig in because at the end of the day, you

790
00:38:08,053 --> 00:38:10,293
Speaker 3: are getting money, and you were getting cash in the bank,

791
00:38:10,373 --> 00:38:12,133
Speaker 3: and that is a good thing when you're a young person.

792
00:38:12,613 --> 00:38:15,973
Speaker 3: And I'm not equating working at sea lords on the

793
00:38:16,893 --> 00:38:19,893
Speaker 3: fish line as being similar to working in the hot

794
00:38:19,973 --> 00:38:24,453
Speaker 3: sun and agriculture, but it was a pretty repetitive, hard

795
00:38:24,613 --> 00:38:27,533
Speaker 3: job to do, and the turnover in that particular job

796
00:38:27,693 --> 00:38:30,373
Speaker 3: was pretty high. There'd be many workers who would turn

797
00:38:30,493 --> 00:38:32,373
Speaker 3: up do it for a day or two, then you

798
00:38:32,493 --> 00:38:35,773
Speaker 3: never see them again because it was just eight hours

799
00:38:35,853 --> 00:38:38,093
Speaker 3: of doing the same thing over and over and over again,

800
00:38:38,173 --> 00:38:41,013
Speaker 3: which is tough mentally, but the pay was really good,

801
00:38:41,093 --> 00:38:42,453
Speaker 3: so I stuck at it. I did it for as

802
00:38:42,533 --> 00:38:45,373
Speaker 3: long as I could, until I got another job and

803
00:38:45,453 --> 00:38:47,333
Speaker 3: went back into education.

804
00:38:47,373 --> 00:38:48,893
Speaker 2: Because the money was fantastic.

805
00:38:49,413 --> 00:38:51,813
Speaker 3: And then you got to work Saturdays and Sundays, and

806
00:38:52,893 --> 00:38:55,573
Speaker 3: I was a rich kid as sixteen doing that god

807
00:38:55,653 --> 00:38:58,692
Speaker 3: awful job. And that's what you do when you've got

808
00:38:59,733 --> 00:39:03,133
Speaker 3: the agility and the physicality to do those sort of jobs.

809
00:39:03,333 --> 00:39:04,693
Speaker 2: Just my thoughts, though, what do you.

810
00:39:04,773 --> 00:39:06,453
Speaker 3: Say, oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, We're

811
00:39:06,453 --> 00:39:08,613
Speaker 3: going to carry this on after two o'clock because so

812
00:39:08,653 --> 00:39:09,973
Speaker 3: many people want to have a chat about it.

813
00:39:10,053 --> 00:39:12,733
Speaker 2: One a quick text to the news.

814
00:39:13,453 --> 00:39:16,093
Speaker 3: I would say, because of the cost of living crisis,

815
00:39:16,293 --> 00:39:19,373
Speaker 3: more parents, mums especially are having to work and take

816
00:39:19,413 --> 00:39:20,933
Speaker 3: on these entry level jobs.

817
00:39:20,973 --> 00:39:21,373
Speaker 2: I play.

818
00:39:21,453 --> 00:39:24,533
Speaker 3: I applied for a school job and eight hundred applicants

819
00:39:24,613 --> 00:39:27,812
Speaker 3: applied as it was school hours, which was a fair point.

820
00:39:28,253 --> 00:39:31,133
Speaker 3: I think there are many more parents, younger parents who

821
00:39:31,253 --> 00:39:33,813
Speaker 3: are clearly both of them are having to work and

822
00:39:33,933 --> 00:39:36,613
Speaker 3: taking up part time positions there back in the day

823
00:39:36,933 --> 00:39:39,453
Speaker 3: may have gone to younger workers. But get on the phones,

824
00:39:39,493 --> 00:39:40,773
Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty If you

825
00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:43,053
Speaker 3: want to send a text more than welcome. Nine two

826
00:39:43,133 --> 00:39:46,693
Speaker 3: ninety two is that number and my email Tyler at NEWSTALKZB.

827
00:39:46,133 --> 00:39:48,973
Speaker 2: Dot co dot nz. Stay right here New Sport and

828
00:39:49,013 --> 00:39:51,933
Speaker 2: we're a fast approaching. I'll be back very shortly.

829
00:39:54,293 --> 00:39:57,573
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon against Matt Heath and Taylor

830
00:39:57,653 --> 00:40:00,172
Speaker 1: Adams afternoons Newstalk ZB.

831
00:40:01,293 --> 00:40:03,533
Speaker 2: We'll good a tou welcome back into the show.

832
00:40:03,653 --> 00:40:05,533
Speaker 3: Great to have your company as always, and we've been

833
00:40:05,613 --> 00:40:07,933
Speaker 3: chatting about the unemployment rate that has edged up to

834
00:40:08,053 --> 00:40:11,413
Speaker 3: five point three percent. That makes it the highest since

835
00:40:11,533 --> 00:40:14,933
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, but to give it some context, last quarter

836
00:40:14,973 --> 00:40:17,413
Speaker 3: it was five point two percent. The government says that

837
00:40:17,613 --> 00:40:20,293
Speaker 3: we are at the peak and it will start to

838
00:40:20,373 --> 00:40:23,173
Speaker 3: come down as we're seeing some green shoots as the

839
00:40:23,253 --> 00:40:25,133
Speaker 3: line that gets rolled out time and time again green

840
00:40:25,173 --> 00:40:27,973
Speaker 3: shoots in the economy. But it does seem that those

841
00:40:28,053 --> 00:40:30,973
Speaker 3: green shoots are starting to grow a bit taller and

842
00:40:31,373 --> 00:40:33,493
Speaker 3: we can only hope that we're starting to face the

843
00:40:33,573 --> 00:40:37,172
Speaker 3: recovery now. But we have been talking about the job

844
00:40:37,293 --> 00:40:40,853
Speaker 3: search situation for you and for your children. If you

845
00:40:40,973 --> 00:40:42,893
Speaker 3: are one of the one hundred and sixty thousand people

846
00:40:43,013 --> 00:40:46,252
Speaker 3: currently unemployed. How hard is it out there to find

847
00:40:46,293 --> 00:40:49,573
Speaker 3: a job? And for young people? That youth figure of

848
00:40:49,773 --> 00:40:55,212
Speaker 3: fifteen point two percent unemployed is massive, bearing in mind

849
00:40:55,293 --> 00:40:58,013
Speaker 3: that young people are at the start of their careers.

850
00:40:58,133 --> 00:41:00,693
Speaker 3: They're young, they're healthy, they're fit, they are ready to go.

851
00:41:00,813 --> 00:41:03,453
Speaker 3: They can do pretty much any job under the sun.

852
00:41:04,413 --> 00:41:07,173
Speaker 3: That is or should be a concern to many people. So,

853
00:41:07,773 --> 00:41:10,213
Speaker 3: if you're a listening right now, how hard is it

854
00:41:10,293 --> 00:41:13,813
Speaker 3: for your child, if they've recently left school or university

855
00:41:13,813 --> 00:41:15,813
Speaker 3: and they've got a degree, to get into the workforce.

856
00:41:15,813 --> 00:41:17,692
Speaker 3: So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

857
00:41:17,693 --> 00:41:20,093
Speaker 3: to call. Let's go back to the phones though, Steve,

858
00:41:20,213 --> 00:41:21,173
Speaker 3: how are you this afternoon?

859
00:41:21,853 --> 00:41:22,253
Speaker 4: I'm good?

860
00:41:22,333 --> 00:41:23,053
Speaker 7: Thank you you?

861
00:41:23,493 --> 00:41:25,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good for a Wednesday. Can you get your

862
00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:26,933
Speaker 2: thoughts on unemployment?

863
00:41:27,653 --> 00:41:29,413
Speaker 7: Well, first off, I want to say green shreets, so

864
00:41:30,053 --> 00:41:33,652
Speaker 7: the body catchphrases giving you one every couple of months.

865
00:41:33,853 --> 00:41:35,213
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, we got to we've got to put

866
00:41:35,213 --> 00:41:36,733
Speaker 3: an end to the old green streets. We've got to

867
00:41:36,733 --> 00:41:38,293
Speaker 3: figure out another way to say it. Because there's only

868
00:41:38,373 --> 00:41:40,093
Speaker 3: been a week and I've heard it enough time to say,

869
00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:42,533
Speaker 3: give me strength, strength.

870
00:41:43,133 --> 00:41:45,613
Speaker 7: Look I just wanted to say that the previous or

871
00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:48,813
Speaker 7: previous call of times too. He mentioned his door and

872
00:41:48,893 --> 00:41:51,093
Speaker 7: not being able to get a look and because she's

873
00:41:51,133 --> 00:41:54,733
Speaker 7: got no experience, don't we do trial periods anymore? It

874
00:41:55,053 --> 00:41:58,533
Speaker 7: was that covered under employment law. Once you've got a job,

875
00:41:58,613 --> 00:41:59,252
Speaker 7: you've got a job.

876
00:41:59,773 --> 00:42:03,133
Speaker 3: No, the the National Coalition brought it back, so that

877
00:42:03,293 --> 00:42:06,413
Speaker 3: was brought back last year, that the ninety day trial periods.

878
00:42:06,413 --> 00:42:08,093
Speaker 3: So you're quite right, you can take somebody on. You've

879
00:42:08,093 --> 00:42:10,533
Speaker 3: got ninety days. If they don't work out, you can

880
00:42:10,653 --> 00:42:12,613
Speaker 3: let them go and you don't need to give a reason.

881
00:42:13,733 --> 00:42:16,133
Speaker 3: So it's a fair point, Steve. But whether that has

882
00:42:16,293 --> 00:42:18,853
Speaker 3: had much of an impact, I mean, clearly with the

883
00:42:18,973 --> 00:42:21,053
Speaker 3: downturn and there's a lot of factors of play here,

884
00:42:21,493 --> 00:42:24,493
Speaker 3: but you know, it's clear there's a lot of people

885
00:42:24,533 --> 00:42:27,813
Speaker 3: struggling out there. But that is an element for employers

886
00:42:27,853 --> 00:42:29,253
Speaker 3: to say, we'll take a punt on you and see

887
00:42:29,293 --> 00:42:29,613
Speaker 3: how you go.

888
00:42:29,893 --> 00:42:32,613
Speaker 7: Exactly, and two young people, and I mean if they

889
00:42:32,693 --> 00:42:35,692
Speaker 7: work out, they work out. And if you go into

890
00:42:35,773 --> 00:42:37,773
Speaker 7: something with your eyes wide open and know that you've

891
00:42:37,773 --> 00:42:40,333
Speaker 7: got money days to prove yourself, you're either going to

892
00:42:40,373 --> 00:42:41,933
Speaker 7: prove yourself or you're not, you know what I mean?

893
00:42:41,973 --> 00:42:45,093
Speaker 7: It just seems like a good that it's still going.

894
00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:46,013
Speaker 7: That's all I wanted to say.

895
00:42:46,173 --> 00:42:48,053
Speaker 3: Yep, No, good on, you're Steve good for raising that.

896
00:42:48,293 --> 00:42:50,813
Speaker 3: And Steve's quite right. They did bring back that ninety

897
00:42:50,893 --> 00:42:53,453
Speaker 3: day trial period. So if you're an employer, is that

898
00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:55,772
Speaker 3: give you a good opportunity to give somebody a punt?

899
00:42:55,893 --> 00:42:58,493
Speaker 3: You give them three months worth of work and they

900
00:42:58,533 --> 00:43:00,613
Speaker 3: don't work out, then you can give them a flick.

901
00:43:00,653 --> 00:43:02,212
Speaker 2: You don't have to give a reason why.

902
00:43:02,653 --> 00:43:04,253
Speaker 3: And on the flip side of things, I mean, does

903
00:43:04,293 --> 00:43:06,013
Speaker 3: that make you a bit nervous if you're looking for

904
00:43:06,133 --> 00:43:09,293
Speaker 3: work or if you're about to enter the workfel the

905
00:43:09,373 --> 00:43:12,053
Speaker 3: ninety day trill period? I mean, clearly that is good

906
00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:16,493
Speaker 3: motivation to do incredibly well. If you've been given a chance,

907
00:43:17,013 --> 00:43:20,293
Speaker 3: someone's given you an opportunity, you kick butt for those

908
00:43:20,413 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 3: ninety days and show up every day of course, and

909
00:43:23,773 --> 00:43:25,692
Speaker 3: show that you've got good work ethic and you can

910
00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:27,613
Speaker 3: maybe problem solve and you're going to be an asset

911
00:43:27,693 --> 00:43:28,293
Speaker 3: to that company.

912
00:43:29,293 --> 00:43:30,613
Speaker 2: But I am glad they brought.

913
00:43:30,533 --> 00:43:33,733
Speaker 3: That back because that does give employers some more confidence,

914
00:43:34,053 --> 00:43:36,613
Speaker 3: confidence to maybe take a chance. But if you are

915
00:43:36,693 --> 00:43:39,652
Speaker 3: a business owner, how often have you utilized the ninety

916
00:43:39,733 --> 00:43:41,453
Speaker 3: day trial and how has it worked out? If you've

917
00:43:41,453 --> 00:43:44,413
Speaker 3: given someone a punt, did they become a fantastic worker

918
00:43:44,653 --> 00:43:45,893
Speaker 3: or did they turn out to be a bit of

919
00:43:45,893 --> 00:43:47,653
Speaker 3: a doubt? Oh, eight hundred and eighteen eighty is that

920
00:43:47,853 --> 00:43:50,693
Speaker 3: number to call? A couple of texts before we go

921
00:43:50,813 --> 00:43:52,933
Speaker 3: back to your phone calls, get a tyler. My theory

922
00:43:53,093 --> 00:43:55,893
Speaker 3: is there aren't jobs there as the average New Zealand

923
00:43:55,933 --> 00:43:59,453
Speaker 3: family now needs both parents working to get by. There

924
00:43:59,693 --> 00:44:02,573
Speaker 3: is a finite I just lost it. There is a

925
00:44:02,653 --> 00:44:05,652
Speaker 3: finite amount of jobs out there, and entry level jobs

926
00:44:05,693 --> 00:44:07,933
Speaker 3: are now being taken by parents one team to have

927
00:44:08,413 --> 00:44:11,173
Speaker 3: extra for their families. That's from Craig, which is a

928
00:44:11,293 --> 00:44:14,493
Speaker 3: very fair point. Good afternoon. AI must be having an

929
00:44:14,533 --> 00:44:18,013
Speaker 3: awful effect on employment and its usage increases, surely that

930
00:44:18,053 --> 00:44:19,973
Speaker 3: will make it even harder for people to find work.

931
00:44:20,053 --> 00:44:23,653
Speaker 3: That's from Kay and Nelson. Absolutely the question of AI,

932
00:44:23,893 --> 00:44:26,893
Speaker 3: no doubt. It's coming thick and fast and being utilized

933
00:44:27,253 --> 00:44:30,693
Speaker 3: in almost every industry. So the impact that's having on

934
00:44:30,733 --> 00:44:34,133
Speaker 3: the job market I don't think has been calculated, but

935
00:44:34,253 --> 00:44:36,652
Speaker 3: it's certainly having an impact. And this one high tiler.

936
00:44:36,733 --> 00:44:40,573
Speaker 3: Plenty of work in Southland. My job, my son rather

937
00:44:40,773 --> 00:44:43,533
Speaker 3: just got a job as an apprentice joiner. He's only eighteen.

938
00:44:43,933 --> 00:44:47,533
Speaker 3: Heaps of farm work, going, laboring, etc. You just can't

939
00:44:47,573 --> 00:44:49,853
Speaker 3: afford to be piggy these days. That's from Dave, So

940
00:44:49,973 --> 00:44:52,172
Speaker 3: keep those techs coming through. On nine to nine two

941
00:44:52,213 --> 00:44:54,453
Speaker 3: the job market, how hard is it out there? And

942
00:44:54,533 --> 00:44:57,093
Speaker 3: as a parent of older children, how hard is it

943
00:44:57,213 --> 00:45:00,133
Speaker 3: for them to find a job currently? Oh eighte hundred

944
00:45:00,133 --> 00:45:01,813
Speaker 3: and eighty teen eighty is that number? To call back

945
00:45:01,893 --> 00:45:03,573
Speaker 3: very shortly. It is twelve past two.

946
00:45:04,653 --> 00:45:08,293
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams after

947
00:45:08,333 --> 00:45:11,813
Speaker 1: boons call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty Youth Talk.

948
00:45:11,693 --> 00:45:15,252
Speaker 3: Said be, it's fourteen past two. We've been talking about

949
00:45:15,293 --> 00:45:18,293
Speaker 3: the unemployment rate. It's at five point three overall, but

950
00:45:18,413 --> 00:45:21,053
Speaker 3: the youth unemployment rate is kind of where we've focused

951
00:45:21,093 --> 00:45:24,573
Speaker 3: in on. Fifteen percent of people age fifteen to twenty

952
00:45:24,653 --> 00:45:27,133
Speaker 3: four are out of work. They are some big numbers.

953
00:45:27,213 --> 00:45:29,533
Speaker 3: If you're a parent and you've got a child within

954
00:45:29,653 --> 00:45:32,173
Speaker 3: that age bracket, how hard are they finding it to

955
00:45:32,213 --> 00:45:32,973
Speaker 3: get a job?

956
00:45:33,053 --> 00:45:33,533
Speaker 2: Any job?

957
00:45:33,573 --> 00:45:35,252
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

958
00:45:35,253 --> 00:45:37,813
Speaker 3: to call. Here's a good text, hy Tyler. I'm an

959
00:45:37,893 --> 00:45:41,252
Speaker 3: unemployed young person living in Auckland here. I'm twenty seven.

960
00:45:41,373 --> 00:45:43,813
Speaker 3: I got laid off my job about twelve months ago today.

961
00:45:43,893 --> 00:45:46,293
Speaker 3: Since then, I've probably managed to land five to six

962
00:45:46,373 --> 00:45:49,773
Speaker 3: interviews total. I've applied for many different jobs and positions.

963
00:45:49,893 --> 00:45:53,693
Speaker 3: Previous experience has been as a delivery driver and sales

964
00:45:53,773 --> 00:45:57,333
Speaker 3: support of worked warehouse work and done entry level sales.

965
00:45:57,333 --> 00:45:59,573
Speaker 3: I've listened to some of the callers call in and

966
00:45:59,613 --> 00:46:02,213
Speaker 3: say they're on the phones trying to find people everyday,

967
00:46:02,293 --> 00:46:05,573
Speaker 3: good workers, et cetera. That just seems so strange when

968
00:46:05,613 --> 00:46:08,693
Speaker 3: I've been applying through all sorts of different recruit is

969
00:46:08,733 --> 00:46:11,933
Speaker 3: going through seek trade, me jobs, etc. And I can't

970
00:46:11,973 --> 00:46:16,252
Speaker 3: even land an interview anywhere. Tough times. It's a great point.

971
00:46:16,493 --> 00:46:18,973
Speaker 3: That's where the disconnector is because you get callers like Jeff,

972
00:46:18,973 --> 00:46:20,573
Speaker 3: and there's been a couple of others, and some texts

973
00:46:20,613 --> 00:46:23,373
Speaker 3: come through saying that they are screaming out for good, reliable,

974
00:46:23,493 --> 00:46:25,653
Speaker 3: key we workers and they just can't find them. But

975
00:46:25,813 --> 00:46:29,652
Speaker 3: you get texts like this, and clearly not every young

976
00:46:29,733 --> 00:46:32,013
Speaker 3: person out there between the ages of fifteen and twenty

977
00:46:32,053 --> 00:46:35,013
Speaker 3: four and in this case twenty seven are lazy. They

978
00:46:35,133 --> 00:46:37,613
Speaker 3: want work and they're hustling to try and find it.

979
00:46:37,813 --> 00:46:40,413
Speaker 3: So why is there such a disconnect between those people

980
00:46:40,493 --> 00:46:43,493
Speaker 3: with businesses screaming out with workers and then texts like

981
00:46:43,573 --> 00:46:45,293
Speaker 3: this who are doing everything they can to try and

982
00:46:45,333 --> 00:46:46,973
Speaker 3: find a job. Love to hear your thoughts on that

983
00:46:47,053 --> 00:46:49,933
Speaker 3: one nine two ninety two is that text number? Hey you, Simon,

984
00:46:51,133 --> 00:46:51,813
Speaker 3: very good, thank you.

985
00:46:53,613 --> 00:46:57,213
Speaker 6: I got made unemployed many many years ago, just to

986
00:46:58,893 --> 00:47:01,213
Speaker 6: a recession and prior to the echristri At earthquake. And

987
00:47:01,653 --> 00:47:03,533
Speaker 6: what I did is I printed out my CV and

988
00:47:03,613 --> 00:47:06,533
Speaker 6: I physically took it round to hr people and just said, here,

989
00:47:06,573 --> 00:47:09,172
Speaker 6: I am. What do I have to do to prove

990
00:47:09,253 --> 00:47:11,773
Speaker 6: to you that I'm the person you're looking for? And

991
00:47:11,893 --> 00:47:15,613
Speaker 6: That's what I've noticed with my son when he left university.

992
00:47:16,533 --> 00:47:17,212
Speaker 17: What have you done?

993
00:47:17,293 --> 00:47:19,653
Speaker 6: He says, I've set my CV off to so many places.

994
00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:21,733
Speaker 6: And I said, but the companies are going to get

995
00:47:21,773 --> 00:47:25,253
Speaker 6: so many cvs. If they don't catch their attention in

996
00:47:25,333 --> 00:47:27,053
Speaker 6: the first couple of lines, it ends up in the

997
00:47:27,093 --> 00:47:30,693
Speaker 6: big round bin. So print it out, get off your backside,

998
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,613
Speaker 6: don't visit people, and see if you can talk face

999
00:47:33,693 --> 00:47:36,173
Speaker 6: to face with the HR and I'm here, what do

1000
00:47:36,253 --> 00:47:37,853
Speaker 6: I have to do to prove that I'm the person

1001
00:47:37,893 --> 00:47:38,373
Speaker 6: you're looking for.

1002
00:47:38,813 --> 00:47:41,013
Speaker 3: It's great advice, and that's what I was told Simon

1003
00:47:41,053 --> 00:47:44,013
Speaker 3: when I was struggling, not for that long to find

1004
00:47:44,053 --> 00:47:46,053
Speaker 3: a job. But that's exactly what the old man said.

1005
00:47:46,053 --> 00:47:47,732
Speaker 3: He said, print off the CV and go and knock

1006
00:47:47,813 --> 00:47:50,093
Speaker 3: on doors. And that's exactly what I did and managed

1007
00:47:50,093 --> 00:47:52,693
Speaker 3: to find a position. I mean, do you think it

1008
00:47:52,733 --> 00:47:54,692
Speaker 3: still works in today's age? Because I have heard from

1009
00:47:54,773 --> 00:47:57,813
Speaker 3: recruiters who say that that approach is as much that

1010
00:47:57,933 --> 00:48:00,613
Speaker 3: as you know, some employers love the hustle and getting

1011
00:48:00,653 --> 00:48:02,813
Speaker 3: in front of them. It doesn't work quite the same

1012
00:48:02,853 --> 00:48:05,893
Speaker 3: way it did ten years ago. That the employers are

1013
00:48:05,933 --> 00:48:09,973
Speaker 3: getting so many people trying that and applications that they

1014
00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:12,013
Speaker 3: get a bit overwhelmed, so they don't actually like people

1015
00:48:12,093 --> 00:48:13,093
Speaker 3: knocking on the door anymore.

1016
00:48:15,333 --> 00:48:17,413
Speaker 6: But the well, the other thing is is how do

1017
00:48:17,533 --> 00:48:20,133
Speaker 6: you get them to how do you get your CV

1018
00:48:20,253 --> 00:48:22,413
Speaker 6: across to them? How do you capture their attention with

1019
00:48:22,493 --> 00:48:24,093
Speaker 6: them the first cuple of lines, because that's all it's

1020
00:48:24,093 --> 00:48:25,772
Speaker 6: going to take because they're going to receive so many

1021
00:48:26,333 --> 00:48:28,173
Speaker 6: so you've got to do something different. I like you,

1022
00:48:28,373 --> 00:48:29,493
Speaker 6: or we can knock it on the door.

1023
00:48:29,893 --> 00:48:30,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, is the way to go.

1024
00:48:31,053 --> 00:48:32,773
Speaker 3: I like your line though, saying what do I need

1025
00:48:32,893 --> 00:48:35,013
Speaker 3: to do to be the best worker that you need

1026
00:48:35,133 --> 00:48:36,973
Speaker 3: right now, which is a great line that throws it

1027
00:48:37,013 --> 00:48:40,133
Speaker 3: back to them and say yes, say okay, right, here's.

1028
00:48:39,893 --> 00:48:42,133
Speaker 6: What we need to go out of my way to

1029
00:48:42,213 --> 00:48:42,493
Speaker 6: help you.

1030
00:48:42,853 --> 00:48:43,053
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1031
00:48:43,413 --> 00:48:46,173
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now it's a great point, simon, And that's you know,

1032
00:48:46,253 --> 00:48:48,253
Speaker 3: when times are tough in terms of the job market,

1033
00:48:48,733 --> 00:48:51,333
Speaker 3: hustling is how you get to the top of the pack.

1034
00:48:51,733 --> 00:48:53,933
Speaker 3: And perhaps there needs to be a little bit more

1035
00:48:54,053 --> 00:48:56,692
Speaker 3: hustle from from younger people out there struggling to find

1036
00:48:56,733 --> 00:48:59,652
Speaker 3: a job, but also the you know, when I think

1037
00:48:59,733 --> 00:49:03,093
Speaker 3: of the young people on Job Seeker, and I've just

1038
00:49:03,173 --> 00:49:05,732
Speaker 3: heard this anecdotally, and I was. I was on Job

1039
00:49:05,773 --> 00:49:08,173
Speaker 3: Seeker for a very small time after the GFC and

1040
00:49:08,213 --> 00:49:11,293
Speaker 3: I lost my job and realized it was a terrible

1041
00:49:11,373 --> 00:49:14,173
Speaker 3: thing to be on. It sucked, it was crap. The

1042
00:49:14,333 --> 00:49:16,693
Speaker 3: money was bugger all, and that as it should be.

1043
00:49:17,573 --> 00:49:19,453
Speaker 3: But the things that they made me turn up to,

1044
00:49:19,653 --> 00:49:22,933
Speaker 3: I mean, the whole thing was a pilava that send

1045
00:49:23,013 --> 00:49:26,333
Speaker 3: me to various courses on Excel spreadsheets, and all this,

1046
00:49:27,093 --> 00:49:29,333
Speaker 3: you know, rubbish skills that I already knew how to do,

1047
00:49:29,533 --> 00:49:31,533
Speaker 3: but there was nothing in the background of work and

1048
00:49:31,573 --> 00:49:33,692
Speaker 3: income at the time. And whether that's changed, I don't

1049
00:49:33,773 --> 00:49:37,093
Speaker 3: know about. Actually, how do you put yourself forward? How

1050
00:49:37,133 --> 00:49:39,573
Speaker 3: do you have those soft skills that employers are actually

1051
00:49:39,613 --> 00:49:41,453
Speaker 3: looking for now? And that seems to be a real

1052
00:49:41,533 --> 00:49:43,373
Speaker 3: disconnect that if you've got all these people on the

1053
00:49:43,453 --> 00:49:46,413
Speaker 3: job seeker and you're giving them a bit of a

1054
00:49:46,613 --> 00:49:48,533
Speaker 3: heads up to say, if you don't start looking for

1055
00:49:48,573 --> 00:49:50,773
Speaker 3: a job and tell you what and do what we

1056
00:49:50,893 --> 00:49:52,213
Speaker 3: tell you to do, we're going to take you off

1057
00:49:52,253 --> 00:49:54,133
Speaker 3: the benefit. That's all well and good, but you've got

1058
00:49:54,173 --> 00:49:55,692
Speaker 3: to give them the right skills to go out there

1059
00:49:55,693 --> 00:49:57,853
Speaker 3: and put themselves forward, right and get the best out

1060
00:49:57,893 --> 00:49:59,732
Speaker 3: of them. But what do you say, Oh, eight hundred

1061
00:49:59,733 --> 00:50:01,293
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1062
00:50:01,933 --> 00:50:02,133
Speaker 18: Rob?

1063
00:50:02,653 --> 00:50:03,292
Speaker 2: How are you mate?

1064
00:50:04,613 --> 00:50:04,733
Speaker 7: Hi?

1065
00:50:04,893 --> 00:50:05,213
Speaker 5: Tyler?

1066
00:50:05,253 --> 00:50:09,973
Speaker 7: I'm fine, Danks, Thanks for taking my call. Look out

1067
00:50:10,093 --> 00:50:14,053
Speaker 7: just so phone to talk about my son who's twenty seven,

1068
00:50:14,773 --> 00:50:18,172
Speaker 7: and that he's had He's got two degrees. He did

1069
00:50:18,213 --> 00:50:21,973
Speaker 7: his first degree as got a degree in statistic SOMA

1070
00:50:22,173 --> 00:50:24,613
Speaker 7: and that was just around when COVID hit in a

1071
00:50:24,693 --> 00:50:27,333
Speaker 7: lot of people coming back into the country and then

1072
00:50:27,373 --> 00:50:30,213
Speaker 7: they said, well and then a lot of people with experience,

1073
00:50:30,293 --> 00:50:32,773
Speaker 7: so they said, you don't want you because you haven't

1074
00:50:32,773 --> 00:50:35,253
Speaker 7: got any experience, you see. So he went back to

1075
00:50:35,293 --> 00:50:38,693
Speaker 7: you needed another debeat, this time accounting. And now he

1076
00:50:38,813 --> 00:50:41,213
Speaker 7: gets out of it. This country's in a massive recession.

1077
00:50:41,573 --> 00:50:44,933
Speaker 7: But he finally got a job with the company that's

1078
00:50:44,933 --> 00:50:47,853
Speaker 7: sort of in the finance sector and they're like repurposing

1079
00:50:47,933 --> 00:50:51,213
Speaker 7: people who are getting out of their kid saber because

1080
00:50:51,253 --> 00:50:53,613
Speaker 7: of hardship. So he worked in the job for seven

1081
00:50:53,693 --> 00:50:57,373
Speaker 7: months and in this company that had sold to the Americans,

1082
00:50:57,773 --> 00:51:01,733
Speaker 7: they decided to outsource the job to Fiji. So he

1083
00:51:01,893 --> 00:51:04,573
Speaker 7: spent the last couple of months in his temporary job

1084
00:51:05,253 --> 00:51:08,573
Speaker 7: training the Fijians how to do his job. And this

1085
00:51:08,853 --> 00:51:12,373
Speaker 7: is done to him by a Kiwi company in this

1086
00:51:12,613 --> 00:51:15,813
Speaker 7: country and a lot of their thing is handling t weceiver.

1087
00:51:16,413 --> 00:51:18,933
Speaker 7: So you know, how's that for a kick in the guns.

1088
00:51:19,053 --> 00:51:21,212
Speaker 3: There is a massive kick in the guts. I mean,

1089
00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:23,773
Speaker 3: you know, the integrity of your of your son to

1090
00:51:23,973 --> 00:51:27,293
Speaker 3: to you know, retrain those other people in Fiji. But

1091
00:51:27,453 --> 00:51:29,613
Speaker 3: for most of us would say, bug of that, I'm

1092
00:51:29,653 --> 00:51:31,973
Speaker 3: not retraining anyone, I'm leaving you on your own because

1093
00:51:32,013 --> 00:51:34,413
Speaker 3: you've absolutely knife me in the back.

1094
00:51:35,813 --> 00:51:38,893
Speaker 7: Well, he thought, well, if he keeps on working and

1095
00:51:39,053 --> 00:51:40,933
Speaker 7: shows them he's a good work and he's very clever.

1096
00:51:41,333 --> 00:51:44,533
Speaker 7: He was helping sort out the assistance. He thought, maybe

1097
00:51:44,573 --> 00:51:47,253
Speaker 7: they'll reconsider, maybe they'll give me a job. But yeah, no,

1098
00:51:47,453 --> 00:51:48,493
Speaker 7: nothing in the end of the day.

1099
00:51:48,733 --> 00:51:51,093
Speaker 2: So how's he doing now? Is did he managed to

1100
00:51:51,133 --> 00:51:51,573
Speaker 2: find out?

1101
00:51:52,773 --> 00:51:55,493
Speaker 7: You go, No, he hasn't found a job. He's applied

1102
00:51:55,573 --> 00:51:58,773
Speaker 7: for one again. They said, oh, I am not enough experience,

1103
00:51:59,773 --> 00:52:03,253
Speaker 7: and so you know, how are you going to get experience?

1104
00:52:03,813 --> 00:52:05,933
Speaker 7: And then what is he supposed to do? He's done this,

1105
00:52:07,053 --> 00:52:10,893
Speaker 7: he's done two degrees. Now he's got this massive student

1106
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:15,053
Speaker 7: debt and nobody will give him any works. And the

1107
00:52:15,173 --> 00:52:17,693
Speaker 7: thing is, the economy is bad. You know, if that

1108
00:52:17,853 --> 00:52:19,173
Speaker 7: guy was saying, oh, you've got to be at the

1109
00:52:19,213 --> 00:52:20,973
Speaker 7: top of the kids, at the top of five hundred

1110
00:52:21,013 --> 00:52:23,613
Speaker 7: sold Maggie one gets a job, this four hundred and

1111
00:52:23,733 --> 00:52:26,253
Speaker 7: ninety nine, you're not getting a job. And that's the

1112
00:52:26,413 --> 00:52:30,493
Speaker 7: problem here. It's not the doll. The doll bludger who

1113
00:52:30,573 --> 00:52:33,893
Speaker 7: has a bludging attitude is not ready to work. It's

1114
00:52:34,013 --> 00:52:37,133
Speaker 7: just there are no jobs this economy. Hold on to

1115
00:52:37,213 --> 00:52:40,493
Speaker 7: your job. I'm seventy years old now, I'm keeping my

1116
00:52:40,693 --> 00:52:43,333
Speaker 7: job because I'm the only one working left in the family.

1117
00:52:43,613 --> 00:52:44,813
Speaker 7: I can't afford to give it up.

1118
00:52:45,013 --> 00:52:49,173
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean what do you do?

1119
00:52:50,093 --> 00:52:52,413
Speaker 7: It's and it doesn't seem like it's going to turn

1120
00:52:52,453 --> 00:52:53,213
Speaker 7: around in a hurry.

1121
00:52:53,493 --> 00:52:54,413
Speaker 9: So what's he going to do?

1122
00:52:55,013 --> 00:52:57,773
Speaker 2: And how how hard is it to keep him positive?

1123
00:52:57,973 --> 00:52:59,173
Speaker 2: He is he remaining positive?

1124
00:52:59,293 --> 00:52:59,453
Speaker 6: Rob?

1125
00:52:59,573 --> 00:53:01,413
Speaker 2: Is he trying to keep his heat up and push

1126
00:53:01,493 --> 00:53:02,373
Speaker 2: forward as much as he can?

1127
00:53:03,733 --> 00:53:06,493
Speaker 7: Well, you can imagine. I mean he did apply for jobs.

1128
00:53:06,573 --> 00:53:08,652
Speaker 7: He's supplying for jobs straight away, but then you get

1129
00:53:08,733 --> 00:53:12,053
Speaker 7: that kickback, no experience. I mean, how is a person

1130
00:53:12,173 --> 00:53:14,653
Speaker 7: supposed to face that and come out smiling?

1131
00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:15,333
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?

1132
00:53:15,613 --> 00:53:19,172
Speaker 7: Yeah, how would you feel if you were in that situation? Yeah,

1133
00:53:19,253 --> 00:53:21,733
Speaker 7: to give your job to someone in Fiji? And then

1134
00:53:21,773 --> 00:53:23,773
Speaker 7: people said, Babel, by the way, you're on the doll,

1135
00:53:23,853 --> 00:53:26,213
Speaker 7: it's mostly your fault. Get out there and try and

1136
00:53:26,333 --> 00:53:27,413
Speaker 7: get to the top of the queue.

1137
00:53:27,693 --> 00:53:29,933
Speaker 2: I'll be furious. I'll be calling out their company.

1138
00:53:29,973 --> 00:53:33,573
Speaker 3: And if that that is a New Zealand company then

1139
00:53:33,893 --> 00:53:35,933
Speaker 3: and we can't mention them now because I'm just taking

1140
00:53:35,973 --> 00:53:39,172
Speaker 3: your word for it, but that is the I'm sure

1141
00:53:39,213 --> 00:53:42,053
Speaker 3: the sort of things that kiwi's like to hear about.

1142
00:53:42,133 --> 00:53:44,453
Speaker 3: Because whether you support a company that makes a whole

1143
00:53:44,493 --> 00:53:48,733
Speaker 3: bunch of ki workers redundant and you know, outsources them

1144
00:53:48,773 --> 00:53:51,533
Speaker 3: to overseas jobs, we know why they do it because

1145
00:53:51,613 --> 00:53:53,652
Speaker 3: they can get workers at a better price. But whether

1146
00:53:53,733 --> 00:53:56,453
Speaker 3: that's that's you know, clearly it's not good for the

1147
00:53:56,533 --> 00:53:59,213
Speaker 3: New Zealand economy and it's not good for New Zealand workers,

1148
00:53:59,533 --> 00:54:01,973
Speaker 3: and it's not digging in while many people are doing

1149
00:54:02,013 --> 00:54:02,333
Speaker 3: it tough.

1150
00:54:03,973 --> 00:54:06,853
Speaker 7: Yeah, well it's his company, and you know it's not

1151
00:54:07,013 --> 00:54:09,493
Speaker 7: my place to like name and then you know what,

1152
00:54:09,613 --> 00:54:12,533
Speaker 7: you don't want to get into legislation around it. I'm

1153
00:54:12,653 --> 00:54:16,933
Speaker 7: just saying this whole situation is really bad, and they're

1154
00:54:17,173 --> 00:54:19,813
Speaker 7: tending to blame the people who are on the doll

1155
00:54:20,133 --> 00:54:23,573
Speaker 7: like it's obviously therefore you didn't try hard enough, you

1156
00:54:23,813 --> 00:54:27,693
Speaker 7: didn't get off your backside and go and whatever. You know,

1157
00:54:28,093 --> 00:54:31,333
Speaker 7: he's applied for jobs and there have been two thousand applicants.

1158
00:54:31,813 --> 00:54:33,853
Speaker 7: It's very hard just to jump.

1159
00:54:34,133 --> 00:54:35,053
Speaker 17: To the top of that key.

1160
00:54:35,133 --> 00:54:37,573
Speaker 3: I can tell you, Rob really nice to have a

1161
00:54:37,653 --> 00:54:39,333
Speaker 3: chat with you and thank you very much for giving

1162
00:54:39,413 --> 00:54:43,773
Speaker 3: me a call, and hope your son finds employment soon,

1163
00:54:43,813 --> 00:54:45,813
Speaker 3: because it sounds like he's doing everything he can and

1164
00:54:45,893 --> 00:54:49,573
Speaker 3: he's done all the right things and has been stitched

1165
00:54:49,653 --> 00:54:51,973
Speaker 3: up by that company, but also just run into some

1166
00:54:52,453 --> 00:54:54,573
Speaker 3: serious bad luck. So all the best to your son,

1167
00:54:54,613 --> 00:54:56,973
Speaker 3: and thank you very much. And Rob is right, you know,

1168
00:54:57,533 --> 00:55:00,053
Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. There are some people on

1169
00:55:00,133 --> 00:55:03,413
Speaker 3: the job seeker and some young people who maybe see

1170
00:55:03,453 --> 00:55:05,373
Speaker 3: it as a bit of a holiday, and that's why

1171
00:55:06,013 --> 00:55:08,893
Speaker 3: their extra motivation to say, if there are jobs out there,

1172
00:55:08,973 --> 00:55:11,173
Speaker 3: we expect you to take them on is not a

1173
00:55:11,213 --> 00:55:13,853
Speaker 3: bad thing. But clearly there are many people who are

1174
00:55:13,893 --> 00:55:16,732
Speaker 3: on the job seeker who are doing everything they can

1175
00:55:17,413 --> 00:55:21,213
Speaker 3: to try and secure a job, hustle like anything, and

1176
00:55:21,493 --> 00:55:24,413
Speaker 3: in this current climate, are just finding nothing but keen

1177
00:55:24,493 --> 00:55:26,652
Speaker 3: to hear from you. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty

1178
00:55:26,813 --> 00:55:29,613
Speaker 3: is that number to call? Where a bit late it

1179
00:55:29,773 --> 00:55:31,853
Speaker 3: is twenty four past two, but back very shortly with

1180
00:55:31,973 --> 00:55:32,973
Speaker 3: more of your calls.

1181
00:55:37,373 --> 00:55:41,053
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty

1182
00:55:41,133 --> 00:55:43,493
Speaker 1: ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB afternoon.

1183
00:55:43,573 --> 00:55:46,133
Speaker 3: Year We are talking about the unemployment rate it's edged

1184
00:55:46,173 --> 00:55:48,013
Speaker 3: up to five point three percent, and we got to

1185
00:55:48,053 --> 00:55:50,053
Speaker 3: put it in context. Last quarter it was five point

1186
00:55:50,133 --> 00:55:53,893
Speaker 3: two percent. And there's a whole bunch of commentary around

1187
00:55:54,013 --> 00:55:56,813
Speaker 3: some signs of recovery at last. I mean, how often

1188
00:55:56,853 --> 00:55:59,213
Speaker 3: have we heard that? But it seems by all accounts

1189
00:55:59,293 --> 00:55:59,773
Speaker 3: that there.

1190
00:55:59,693 --> 00:56:00,333
Speaker 2: Is some movement.

1191
00:56:00,373 --> 00:56:02,933
Speaker 3: We've got lower interest rates and the government believes this

1192
00:56:03,093 --> 00:56:05,333
Speaker 3: is the peak in terms of unemployment data. But that

1193
00:56:05,493 --> 00:56:09,333
Speaker 3: youth unemployment rate of fifteen percent for fifteen to twenty

1194
00:56:09,453 --> 00:56:12,293
Speaker 3: four year olds, that should be of a concern to

1195
00:56:12,413 --> 00:56:15,692
Speaker 3: many of us. And the question I've asked is why

1196
00:56:15,853 --> 00:56:19,493
Speaker 3: why are young people struggling to find work? Is it

1197
00:56:19,893 --> 00:56:23,213
Speaker 3: as the old adage people say online that they're too

1198
00:56:23,333 --> 00:56:26,173
Speaker 3: lazy and Kiwi workers can't be reliable anymore?

1199
00:56:26,253 --> 00:56:26,893
Speaker 2: Is that the truth?

1200
00:56:27,373 --> 00:56:29,413
Speaker 3: Or is it a bit more nuanced than that. If

1201
00:56:29,453 --> 00:56:32,853
Speaker 3: you're a parent, how hard has it been for your

1202
00:56:32,973 --> 00:56:35,773
Speaker 3: child to find work if they've recently left school or

1203
00:56:35,893 --> 00:56:38,693
Speaker 3: left university with a degree? Really keen to hear from you? Oh,

1204
00:56:38,733 --> 00:56:40,533
Speaker 3: one hundred and eight ten eighty is that number to call?

1205
00:56:40,973 --> 00:56:41,293
Speaker 7: Can?

1206
00:56:41,373 --> 00:56:42,253
Speaker 2: How are you? My friends?

1207
00:56:43,453 --> 00:56:43,652
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1208
00:56:43,733 --> 00:56:44,253
Speaker 17: Good tiler?

1209
00:56:44,293 --> 00:56:44,692
Speaker 18: How are young?

1210
00:56:44,733 --> 00:56:46,172
Speaker 2: But yeah? Good mate? What do you reckon?

1211
00:56:47,653 --> 00:56:52,933
Speaker 18: Yeah, I had one thought about the previous caller with

1212
00:56:53,093 --> 00:56:58,453
Speaker 18: the two degrees, and then I'd be interested in and

1213
00:56:59,453 --> 00:57:03,933
Speaker 18: knowing how many jobs they went for that wasn't the

1214
00:57:04,293 --> 00:57:05,133
Speaker 18: degree specific.

1215
00:57:07,613 --> 00:57:08,013
Speaker 9: So I.

1216
00:57:09,853 --> 00:57:09,893
Speaker 4: Know.

1217
00:57:09,933 --> 00:57:13,053
Speaker 18: I've been a truck driver and a dairy farmer all

1218
00:57:13,133 --> 00:57:16,573
Speaker 18: my life and I've always said to people, whether it's

1219
00:57:16,613 --> 00:57:20,693
Speaker 18: dairy farming or the same thing picking picking fruit, or

1220
00:57:21,093 --> 00:57:23,493
Speaker 18: I've said to them, I will work for you for

1221
00:57:23,573 --> 00:57:26,333
Speaker 18: two days for free, and I'll show you how I am.

1222
00:57:26,613 --> 00:57:29,573
Speaker 18: And every time I've done that, I wound up with

1223
00:57:29,653 --> 00:57:30,693
Speaker 18: a job and start Monday.

1224
00:57:32,453 --> 00:57:34,533
Speaker 2: It's a great strategy. Can you know that?

1225
00:57:34,813 --> 00:57:37,253
Speaker 3: That is putting putting your nuts on the line, so

1226
00:57:37,373 --> 00:57:39,533
Speaker 3: to speak, and saying, I beg myself, you don't have

1227
00:57:39,613 --> 00:57:41,613
Speaker 3: to pay me for two days, but I'll show you

1228
00:57:42,253 --> 00:57:43,333
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a great worker.

1229
00:57:43,333 --> 00:57:44,173
Speaker 2: It's a great strategy.

1230
00:57:45,573 --> 00:57:48,093
Speaker 18: The work ethic I think is big. I've got I've

1231
00:57:48,133 --> 00:57:51,053
Speaker 18: got all kids, and youngest is twelve and the eldest

1232
00:57:51,133 --> 00:57:56,333
Speaker 18: is twenty two. And my oldest, when she was at

1233
00:57:56,373 --> 00:58:00,173
Speaker 18: high school, decided to a paper run and she did

1234
00:58:00,213 --> 00:58:01,973
Speaker 18: the first week of paper run and then waited for

1235
00:58:02,053 --> 00:58:04,933
Speaker 18: the paypacket, got the paypacket and.

1236
00:58:05,053 --> 00:58:10,693
Speaker 3: Quite I mean I did a paper run, and your

1237
00:58:10,773 --> 00:58:11,333
Speaker 3: daughter's right.

1238
00:58:11,453 --> 00:58:13,733
Speaker 2: I mean the pay is buger all.

1239
00:58:13,813 --> 00:58:16,053
Speaker 3: I can't remember how much it was per house or

1240
00:58:16,133 --> 00:58:18,893
Speaker 3: paper that I delivered, but you know, for a three

1241
00:58:18,973 --> 00:58:23,213
Speaker 3: hours work as, I think I got about fifteen dollars,

1242
00:58:23,533 --> 00:58:26,773
Speaker 3: so even you know, when you take into account inflation,

1243
00:58:27,253 --> 00:58:29,613
Speaker 3: that would probably be about thirty bucks in today's money.

1244
00:58:29,693 --> 00:58:31,973
Speaker 3: So thirty bucks for three hours I suppose, you know,

1245
00:58:32,133 --> 00:58:33,813
Speaker 3: not too bad for a sixteen year old kid, but

1246
00:58:33,853 --> 00:58:34,853
Speaker 3: it was hard yecker.

1247
00:58:35,813 --> 00:58:39,093
Speaker 18: So she was expecting us six or seven hundred dollars paypacker,

1248
00:58:39,453 --> 00:58:41,613
Speaker 18: was what she said to me when we talked about it.

1249
00:58:41,853 --> 00:58:46,493
Speaker 19: Yeah, it come as a bit of a shock, But

1250
00:58:47,213 --> 00:58:51,573
Speaker 19: I definitely think working think as like the amount of

1251
00:58:52,213 --> 00:58:54,573
Speaker 19: the amount of young people nowadays that aren't willing to

1252
00:58:54,653 --> 00:58:55,173
Speaker 19: do the job.

1253
00:58:55,733 --> 00:58:58,413
Speaker 18: Like like you were saying, when we were young, you

1254
00:58:58,533 --> 00:59:00,493
Speaker 18: just got stuck into it. A bet job paid money,

1255
00:59:00,693 --> 00:59:03,813
Speaker 18: you did it, and you did a good job. I

1256
00:59:03,893 --> 00:59:05,173
Speaker 18: think we're missing a little bit of that now.

1257
00:59:05,573 --> 00:59:07,173
Speaker 3: But I can't work out why can't. I think I

1258
00:59:07,253 --> 00:59:10,253
Speaker 3: think you are right, not for every young person. Clearly,

1259
00:59:10,333 --> 00:59:12,573
Speaker 3: there's a lot of very talented young people out there

1260
00:59:12,653 --> 00:59:15,573
Speaker 3: that know the value of hard work and can get

1261
00:59:15,613 --> 00:59:17,573
Speaker 3: stuck in because they know there's no other option. You

1262
00:59:17,693 --> 00:59:20,533
Speaker 3: either get a job and get some money in or

1263
00:59:20,613 --> 00:59:23,053
Speaker 3: your life isn't going to be that flash. But I

1264
00:59:23,133 --> 00:59:26,053
Speaker 3: can't understand why that's been ingrained that I'm too good

1265
00:59:26,093 --> 00:59:28,853
Speaker 3: for a particular job, or I don't want to go

1266
00:59:28,973 --> 00:59:31,053
Speaker 3: and do farm work because it's not what I'm studied it.

1267
00:59:31,453 --> 00:59:33,133
Speaker 3: I just can't get my head around that. If that

1268
00:59:33,333 --> 00:59:37,493
Speaker 3: is an ingrained psyche in recent years, that blows my mind.

1269
00:59:37,613 --> 00:59:40,333
Speaker 3: That a job and having money in in your pocket,

1270
00:59:40,693 --> 00:59:42,133
Speaker 3: surely that's a great motivator.

1271
00:59:45,053 --> 00:59:47,653
Speaker 18: I will just say real quickly, I went and applied

1272
00:59:47,693 --> 00:59:51,813
Speaker 18: for a job, but God got the Pamer mechanics for

1273
00:59:52,333 --> 00:59:56,613
Speaker 18: the mining trucks and stuff. And I went on us

1274
00:59:56,773 --> 00:59:58,813
Speaker 18: and they said to me, we never put an ad

1275
00:59:58,893 --> 01:00:01,293
Speaker 18: in the paper because then you have people channing up

1276
01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:05,093
Speaker 18: who just want a job. Yeah, we never advertise, and

1277
01:00:05,533 --> 01:00:07,173
Speaker 18: people who come to our door and say I want

1278
01:00:07,213 --> 01:00:09,533
Speaker 18: to be a mechanic for gos got that's where they

1279
01:00:09,573 --> 01:00:13,053
Speaker 18: am bullying. Yeah, that was quite an interesting way looking

1280
01:00:13,053 --> 01:00:13,253
Speaker 18: at it.

1281
01:00:13,813 --> 01:00:16,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, good cool. Can't thank you very much

1282
01:00:16,293 --> 01:00:18,213
Speaker 3: in your spot on. I mean, looking back, a big

1283
01:00:18,293 --> 01:00:19,973
Speaker 3: part of it was I couldn't deal with the grief

1284
01:00:20,293 --> 01:00:22,893
Speaker 3: from Dad. If I didn't have a job over summer,

1285
01:00:23,053 --> 01:00:25,453
Speaker 3: there'd be no end of grief saying that you've got

1286
01:00:25,533 --> 01:00:27,093
Speaker 3: to get out there, Tyler, and I'm not going to

1287
01:00:27,173 --> 01:00:30,133
Speaker 3: take any excuses, and you'll find a job if you

1288
01:00:30,213 --> 01:00:31,053
Speaker 3: know what's good for you.

1289
01:00:31,453 --> 01:00:33,093
Speaker 2: So that is a part of it. If you've got you.

1290
01:00:33,133 --> 01:00:36,413
Speaker 3: Know, parents who are racking you up saying that you're

1291
01:00:36,493 --> 01:00:37,813
Speaker 3: just got to get out there. You're not going to

1292
01:00:37,853 --> 01:00:39,413
Speaker 3: sit at home. You're going to be out there. You're

1293
01:00:39,413 --> 01:00:41,133
Speaker 3: going to be knocking on doors and do whatever you

1294
01:00:41,213 --> 01:00:42,653
Speaker 3: can and I'll help you to the best of my

1295
01:00:42,773 --> 01:00:45,893
Speaker 3: ability and use what ever contacts of God. But that

1296
01:00:46,053 --> 01:00:47,933
Speaker 3: seemed to be a good motivator for me to get

1297
01:00:47,973 --> 01:00:50,573
Speaker 3: out there and find work as well as the money.

1298
01:00:50,613 --> 01:00:52,893
Speaker 3: But I just couldn't deal with the grief hearing Dad

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Speaker 3: say you're not going to sit around the house. You're

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Speaker 3: going to find a job, but keen to get your

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Speaker 3: experience as Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 3: that number of cool headlines with Raylen coming up? And

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Speaker 3: when we come back, Jason wants to have a chat

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Speaker 3: about offshoring jobs. That is coming next back in a moment.

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Speaker 12: Wow US talks at the headlines with blue bubble taxis

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01:01:13,613 --> 01:01:16,813
Speaker 12: it's no trouble with a blue bubble. Unemployment may be

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Speaker 12: worse than today's headline figure suggests, at an almost nine

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01:01:20,733 --> 01:01:24,413
Speaker 12: year high five point three percent for the September quarter,

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01:01:24,893 --> 01:01:27,573
Speaker 12: one hundred and sixty thousand people were looking for work,

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Speaker 12: but that doesn't capture people who have left the labour

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Speaker 12: force and the one hundred and thirty eight thousand who

1312
01:01:33,333 --> 01:01:37,773
Speaker 12: were underemployed. A crash cargo planes ignited a huge fire

1313
01:01:37,933 --> 01:01:41,613
Speaker 12: in Kentucky's Louisville, thought to have landed on a number

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Speaker 12: of businesses, leaving three dead and at least eleven injured.

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Speaker 12: The Mental Health Minister has announced sixty two million dollars

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01:01:49,613 --> 01:01:53,213
Speaker 12: for frontline staff, support workers and patient beds after a

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01:01:53,293 --> 01:01:57,093
Speaker 12: report's found access is declining, people are waiting longer, and

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01:01:57,253 --> 01:02:01,613
Speaker 12: needs are more complex. Police cordons have lifted around a

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Speaker 12: central Wellington street after reports of a firearm. Armed officers

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01:02:05,493 --> 01:02:07,973
Speaker 12: were at an apartment on Hopper Street just before one

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01:02:08,053 --> 01:02:11,413
Speaker 12: car art and arrest warrant. No firearm was found and

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Speaker 12: the subject of the warrant wasn't home. Government to propose

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Speaker 12: more concerts at Eden Park after review warns Auckland risks

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Speaker 12: missing art on four hundred and thirty two million dollars.

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Speaker 12: See more at Enz and Herald Premium. I'm back to

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Speaker 12: Matt Eathan Tyler Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Rayleen.

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Speaker 3: We're talking about the unemployment rate, as Raeli mentioned, is

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01:02:30,373 --> 01:02:33,933
Speaker 3: edged up to five zero point three percent. That is

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Speaker 3: the highest it's been since twenty sixteen. There are hopes

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Speaker 3: that it is at the peak, but we are talking

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Speaker 3: about your experiences. If you've been looking for a job,

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Speaker 3: how has it gone for you over the past twelve months,

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01:02:44,773 --> 01:02:46,773
Speaker 3: how many applications have you put in? And for the

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01:02:46,813 --> 01:02:49,253
Speaker 3: younger people as well, that number is a lot higher.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen percent of those aged fifteen to twenty four unemployed.

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Speaker 3: So if you've got children in that age bracket, how

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01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:58,213
Speaker 3: hard is it for them to find work, particularly over

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01:02:58,253 --> 01:03:00,013
Speaker 3: the summer month. So eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. Jason, how are you mate?

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Speaker 16: Good?

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01:03:04,533 --> 01:03:04,693
Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good? You want to talk about offshering jobs?

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Speaker 7: I do so.

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Speaker 20: I think with the government unemployment rate, I think if

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01:03:13,773 --> 01:03:16,893
Speaker 20: they look at it historically, you know it's probably has peak.

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01:03:16,973 --> 01:03:19,933
Speaker 20: But from what I'm seeing the world is changing so

1348
01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:23,093
Speaker 20: quickly that the historic metrics aren't going to be what

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01:03:23,253 --> 01:03:27,173
Speaker 20: drives the future employment and job opportunities in the country. Now,

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01:03:27,453 --> 01:03:29,653
Speaker 20: just for a bit of context, I've run large businesses

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01:03:29,773 --> 01:03:33,613
Speaker 20: employing thousands of kids under thirty. I've got three teenagers

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01:03:33,693 --> 01:03:36,573
Speaker 20: and kids at university. And I've got a business that

1353
01:03:36,733 --> 01:03:39,493
Speaker 20: twelve months ago had about twenty staff in New Zealand.

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01:03:40,013 --> 01:03:42,133
Speaker 20: We now have three staff in New Zealand. We still

1355
01:03:42,173 --> 01:03:47,973
Speaker 20: have twenty staff, but those staff are located in Islamabart, Philippines,

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01:03:48,573 --> 01:03:53,573
Speaker 20: Brazil and Egypt. And the cost of those staff in

1357
01:03:53,693 --> 01:03:57,733
Speaker 20: general is about a quarter to sixth of what we're

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01:03:57,773 --> 01:04:00,453
Speaker 20: paying in New Zealand. And the quality of work that

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01:04:00,493 --> 01:04:04,093
Speaker 20: we're getting out of those out of those staff is

1360
01:04:04,253 --> 01:04:09,173
Speaker 20: superior to people who we would have been paid five

1361
01:04:09,213 --> 01:04:12,973
Speaker 20: or six times that amount. And when I talk to

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01:04:13,053 --> 01:04:16,613
Speaker 20: my kids about and the reason for that is these

1363
01:04:16,693 --> 01:04:19,773
Speaker 20: guys have got experience, they specialize in a single area,

1364
01:04:20,173 --> 01:04:23,853
Speaker 20: and they're all AI trained in those respective areas. So

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01:04:24,053 --> 01:04:29,333
Speaker 20: not only are you getting great people, but you're also

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01:04:29,453 --> 01:04:32,653
Speaker 20: getting these people who are deeply trained in a niche

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Speaker 20: using AI to optimize what they do.

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Speaker 12: It is.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I can understand from a business point of view, Jason,

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Speaker 3: why you do that. It's a no brainer that you

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Speaker 3: get employees that are more skilled in the areas that

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Speaker 3: you need them to be skilled in, and you don't

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01:04:48,533 --> 01:04:52,253
Speaker 3: have to pay them as much. But it's a tricky balance,

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01:04:52,333 --> 01:04:55,453
Speaker 3: isn't it is that some people would say that is

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01:04:55,533 --> 01:04:59,813
Speaker 3: almost a race to the bottom when you're outsourcing to

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01:05:00,053 --> 01:05:03,173
Speaker 3: developing nations that have far more people and they can

1377
01:05:03,253 --> 01:05:06,853
Speaker 3: afford to be paid less because their cost of living

1378
01:05:06,933 --> 01:05:09,293
Speaker 3: isn't the same level in New Za. Where does it

1379
01:05:09,333 --> 01:05:11,573
Speaker 3: all end up? And I'm not blaming what you've done.

1380
01:05:11,613 --> 01:05:14,053
Speaker 3: You've done what any sensible business owner would do, is

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01:05:14,133 --> 01:05:18,373
Speaker 3: that you find good people who don't require as much

1382
01:05:18,413 --> 01:05:21,973
Speaker 3: of a salary, and they are good workers. But you

1383
01:05:22,053 --> 01:05:25,213
Speaker 3: can see the wider problem with the overall economy if

1384
01:05:25,253 --> 01:05:27,733
Speaker 3: that is starting to happen on a more regular basis.

1385
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Speaker 20: I totally agree. But the solution isn't to ignore that.

1386
01:05:32,053 --> 01:05:34,413
Speaker 20: What's happened in the last in particular the last twelve

1387
01:05:34,453 --> 01:05:37,613
Speaker 20: months is you've got millions of people in developing countries

1388
01:05:37,653 --> 01:05:41,453
Speaker 20: who are now connected and have looked at AI and gone,

1389
01:05:41,773 --> 01:05:46,973
Speaker 20: I can upscool within weeks and deliver a wonderful service.

1390
01:05:47,813 --> 01:05:51,413
Speaker 20: And so that's happened, and it's happening at an incredible

1391
01:05:51,493 --> 01:05:53,973
Speaker 20: rate of knos. And you know, when I talk to

1392
01:05:54,053 --> 01:05:55,733
Speaker 20: my kids about what they're doing, and when I see

1393
01:05:55,773 --> 01:05:58,613
Speaker 20: what they're learning at university, none of them are being

1394
01:05:58,693 --> 01:06:02,093
Speaker 20: pushed in AI. And what my advice for them is

1395
01:06:02,173 --> 01:06:04,093
Speaker 20: is you've got to go deep in this ere. I

1396
01:06:04,133 --> 01:06:07,213
Speaker 20: would not employ a single person who was not a

1397
01:06:07,573 --> 01:06:12,733
Speaker 20: native role where it's accounting, marketing, sales. It just doesn't

1398
01:06:12,773 --> 01:06:15,773
Speaker 20: do it any longer. It's just not the right thing

1399
01:06:15,853 --> 01:06:18,773
Speaker 20: to do. And so the government and I noticed in

1400
01:06:19,373 --> 01:06:22,293
Speaker 20: the UAE last week, Hey, the government over there as

1401
01:06:22,373 --> 01:06:26,293
Speaker 20: a Minister of AI, they rank every single government department

1402
01:06:26,453 --> 01:06:30,733
Speaker 20: on their ability with AI. So so every single business,

1403
01:06:30,893 --> 01:06:33,493
Speaker 20: not every single government department, every single business in the

1404
01:06:33,573 --> 01:06:37,533
Speaker 20: IA is ranked on I. And government contracts are awarded

1405
01:06:37,773 --> 01:06:41,533
Speaker 20: to companies that have a much higher level of use

1406
01:06:41,693 --> 01:06:44,293
Speaker 20: of AI. So if you're a nine out of ten company,

1407
01:06:44,693 --> 01:06:48,053
Speaker 20: you're more likely to get a contract. And we're paying

1408
01:06:48,133 --> 01:06:52,213
Speaker 20: lip service to it. In New Zealand. And you know, education,

1409
01:06:52,613 --> 01:06:57,373
Speaker 20: same things, they're just education organizations of the schools, universities

1410
01:06:57,493 --> 01:07:01,253
Speaker 20: are just they're not moving fast enough. And when I

1411
01:07:01,333 --> 01:07:04,933
Speaker 20: say fast, it's changing every week. We review and change

1412
01:07:05,213 --> 01:07:11,653
Speaker 20: apps and operational platforms every week every two weeks because

1413
01:07:11,693 --> 01:07:14,493
Speaker 20: it's moving that fast. I don't know what the solutions

1414
01:07:14,533 --> 01:07:17,253
Speaker 20: for training it is, but it's definitely not putting a

1415
01:07:17,293 --> 01:07:19,853
Speaker 20: hidden the stand, but betiding this offshooing problem's going to

1416
01:07:19,893 --> 01:07:23,533
Speaker 20: go away. However, on the other side, there's never been

1417
01:07:23,573 --> 01:07:26,853
Speaker 20: a better time to be a teenager looking for work

1418
01:07:26,973 --> 01:07:31,893
Speaker 20: right now. If you upskill in AI, there are hundreds

1419
01:07:31,893 --> 01:07:34,813
Speaker 20: of thousands of New Zealand businesses looking for those skill sets.

1420
01:07:35,613 --> 01:07:38,333
Speaker 20: But don't expect this to go and get a financetagram

1421
01:07:38,333 --> 01:07:40,853
Speaker 20: and turn up, or become a lawyer and turn up

1422
01:07:41,373 --> 01:07:44,133
Speaker 20: and expect to get a job. It won't be happening.

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Speaker 3: So very well put Jason, and you're right. The world

1424
01:07:46,973 --> 01:07:49,013
Speaker 3: is fast changing, and no doubt about it. If you

1425
01:07:49,573 --> 01:07:52,733
Speaker 3: have those skills in AI and in New Zealand arguably

1426
01:07:52,853 --> 01:07:54,933
Speaker 3: I mean in Pakistan as well. I imagine they do

1427
01:07:55,013 --> 01:07:56,813
Speaker 3: it off their own bat that they are connected to

1428
01:07:56,893 --> 01:07:59,293
Speaker 3: the internet, they can see where the world is going

1429
01:07:59,453 --> 01:08:02,293
Speaker 3: and they develop those skills themselves. That gives you an

1430
01:08:02,373 --> 01:08:04,813
Speaker 3: edge and an advantage in today's world, and if young

1431
01:08:04,893 --> 01:08:07,013
Speaker 3: people are looking to do that, then they will be fine.

1432
01:08:07,053 --> 01:08:10,733
Speaker 3: I've got no doubt about it. But that wide question

1433
01:08:10,813 --> 01:08:13,773
Speaker 3: about outsourcing and the developing nations coming to the fore.

1434
01:08:14,053 --> 01:08:15,613
Speaker 3: I mean, this is where it all gets messy, right,

1435
01:08:15,653 --> 01:08:17,572
Speaker 3: because then you look at what Trump has done with

1436
01:08:17,653 --> 01:08:20,412
Speaker 3: the tariffs, and there was a lot of economists saying

1437
01:08:20,492 --> 01:08:23,053
Speaker 3: that was terrible for the world economy. Arguably we were

1438
01:08:23,093 --> 01:08:25,293
Speaker 3: impacted in some way with that. But the reason he

1439
01:08:25,412 --> 01:08:27,412
Speaker 3: was trying to do that is because you've got the

1440
01:08:27,412 --> 01:08:30,333
Speaker 3: middle class of America screaming that all our jobs are

1441
01:08:30,372 --> 01:08:34,372
Speaker 3: going overseas and to Mexico and various other nations, and

1442
01:08:34,452 --> 01:08:37,053
Speaker 3: he wanted to bring manufacturing back. And the horse has

1443
01:08:37,053 --> 01:08:39,892
Speaker 3: probably bolted on that. But I think most of us

1444
01:08:39,973 --> 01:08:42,612
Speaker 3: can see there's a real shift in the dynamic of

1445
01:08:43,213 --> 01:08:47,093
Speaker 3: traditional work in the traditional economy and something needs to

1446
01:08:47,213 --> 01:08:47,852
Speaker 3: change because.

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01:08:47,652 --> 01:08:48,452
Speaker 2: It's a breaking point.

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01:08:49,572 --> 01:08:50,932
Speaker 20: I couldn't agree more.

1449
01:08:51,973 --> 01:08:54,333
Speaker 3: Jason, Really good to get your thoughts, very interesting. Thank

1450
01:08:54,333 --> 01:08:57,133
Speaker 3: you very much for giving me a buzz. And he

1451
01:08:57,253 --> 01:08:59,133
Speaker 3: spot on, isn't he? I mean, as a business owner,

1452
01:08:59,452 --> 01:09:01,572
Speaker 3: why would you not if you can get workers in

1453
01:09:01,612 --> 01:09:05,812
Speaker 3: a place like Punkistan as Lammabard who have better skills

1454
01:09:05,893 --> 01:09:08,132
Speaker 3: and they don't require the same salary. I can understand

1455
01:09:08,133 --> 01:09:09,933
Speaker 3: that from a business point of view, But when it

1456
01:09:09,973 --> 01:09:13,492
Speaker 3: comes to our local economy, when we've got to find

1457
01:09:13,692 --> 01:09:19,013
Speaker 3: a solution to the traditional working environment and how that

1458
01:09:19,133 --> 01:09:21,772
Speaker 3: funds the economy because things are fast changing. But perhaps,

1459
01:09:21,853 --> 01:09:24,133
Speaker 3: as he says, for the young people listening out there,

1460
01:09:24,293 --> 01:09:27,093
Speaker 3: if you ubscur yourself in AI and find those advantages

1461
01:09:27,173 --> 01:09:29,173
Speaker 3: they are out there, you will have an edge on

1462
01:09:29,333 --> 01:09:31,093
Speaker 3: many others. Can you get your views though? Oh, eight

1463
01:09:31,213 --> 01:09:32,973
Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It

1464
01:09:33,173 --> 01:09:34,492
Speaker 3: is seventeen to three.

1465
01:09:36,013 --> 01:09:39,372
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

1466
01:09:39,732 --> 01:09:43,812
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

1467
01:09:43,812 --> 01:09:45,013
Speaker 2: They'd be very good afternoon to you.

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01:09:45,093 --> 01:09:47,692
Speaker 3: We're talking about the unemployment rate and focusing in on

1469
01:09:47,853 --> 01:09:49,892
Speaker 3: youth unemployment as well. But can you get your views

1470
01:09:49,893 --> 01:09:52,213
Speaker 3: on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Steve, How you doing?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Goodad Tyler? Hey, Tyler. I think look, we're having

1472
01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:00,572
Speaker 5: rapid changes in your zeale and I think kiwik culture,

1473
01:10:00,612 --> 01:10:04,133
Speaker 5: traditional kiwek culture is holding the country back. You don't

1474
01:10:04,173 --> 01:10:06,412
Speaker 5: hear anyone talking about it because if you do, you're

1475
01:10:06,452 --> 01:10:09,173
Speaker 5: a traitor, right and you won't hear an politician. But

1476
01:10:09,293 --> 01:10:15,772
Speaker 5: the typical Kiwi entitled culture I'm afraid is just not

1477
01:10:15,893 --> 01:10:19,612
Speaker 5: going to help us going forward. We've lived and New

1478
01:10:19,692 --> 01:10:22,133
Speaker 5: Zealand has been living in a field of dreams. Hasn't

1479
01:10:22,133 --> 01:10:25,092
Speaker 5: it looked when you think about it, it's been the land.

1480
01:10:25,133 --> 01:10:27,452
Speaker 5: It's been a fantasy land New Zealand, hasn't it. We've

1481
01:10:27,532 --> 01:10:29,852
Speaker 5: been able to get all this pride in these primary goods.

1482
01:10:29,933 --> 01:10:33,173
Speaker 5: Seldom to the world. There's always been traditionally enough money

1483
01:10:33,253 --> 01:10:35,572
Speaker 5: to pay the bills, give us the roads, give us

1484
01:10:35,572 --> 01:10:37,692
Speaker 5: all the infrastructure at this space that if we didn't

1485
01:10:37,732 --> 01:10:40,133
Speaker 5: have this green grass, we would be like any other

1486
01:10:41,013 --> 01:10:43,612
Speaker 5: one of those hard third world countries. We'd have to

1487
01:10:43,893 --> 01:10:47,692
Speaker 5: develop other industries. But we've been given this perfect location.

1488
01:10:47,853 --> 01:10:50,452
Speaker 5: It's allowed us put cows on grass and milk and

1489
01:10:51,013 --> 01:10:54,333
Speaker 5: just bloody get milk, send it, send the protein off.

1490
01:10:54,893 --> 01:10:56,732
Speaker 5: But the problem is that's all well and good when

1491
01:10:56,772 --> 01:10:59,972
Speaker 5: you've got a small population. Right, we're now heading into

1492
01:11:00,053 --> 01:11:02,612
Speaker 5: a point now where where it doesn't pay the bills

1493
01:11:02,612 --> 01:11:06,053
Speaker 5: because the population has increased. Now we're hitting a very

1494
01:11:06,133 --> 01:11:09,253
Speaker 5: static point in our population growth. New Zealand has never

1495
01:11:10,013 --> 01:11:14,973
Speaker 5: grown in recent decades without high population growth. And now

1496
01:11:15,013 --> 01:11:18,173
Speaker 5: we're hitting the Japanese syndrome right where that they had.

1497
01:11:18,692 --> 01:11:20,812
Speaker 5: We're in a zombie economy. We're going to be propped

1498
01:11:20,893 --> 01:11:23,892
Speaker 5: up by debt. And I don't think interest rates are

1499
01:11:23,893 --> 01:11:25,372
Speaker 5: going to get us out of this, all right, because

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01:11:25,372 --> 01:11:27,372
Speaker 5: I'll tell you one thing. Everyone's sort of wrapped up

1501
01:11:27,412 --> 01:11:32,092
Speaker 5: with interest rates. The reality is Japan had negative interest

1502
01:11:32,213 --> 01:11:34,892
Speaker 5: rates to try and get the economy going. It didn't

1503
01:11:35,013 --> 01:11:37,213
Speaker 5: matter if you don't have job security. You've still going

1504
01:11:37,253 --> 01:11:40,772
Speaker 5: to pay the principal back, right. And also rents are following.

1505
01:11:41,253 --> 01:11:44,372
Speaker 5: Rents are dropping, so think about this. Okay, rents are

1506
01:11:44,412 --> 01:11:48,652
Speaker 5: dropping at the same rate as interest rates, So what

1507
01:11:48,812 --> 01:11:51,253
Speaker 5: incentive doesn't invest They have to go out, you know,

1508
01:11:51,333 --> 01:11:54,412
Speaker 5: they get the loan, their lower interest rate right to

1509
01:11:54,492 --> 01:11:56,173
Speaker 5: buy the house, but they're still going to have to

1510
01:11:56,293 --> 01:11:59,253
Speaker 5: take a lower rent. So the numbers aren't stacking up.

1511
01:11:59,973 --> 01:12:01,812
Speaker 5: The numbers just aren't. We're going to be in the

1512
01:12:01,933 --> 01:12:05,293
Speaker 5: quagmis for quite some time. And I think this is

1513
01:12:05,532 --> 01:12:08,213
Speaker 5: it sounds very much doomsday ish, but AI is going

1514
01:12:08,253 --> 01:12:11,892
Speaker 5: to take more job than it will produce, no doubt about.

1515
01:12:12,053 --> 01:12:14,253
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have to with that lower skilled job.

1516
01:12:14,253 --> 01:12:15,933
Speaker 5: They're going to be taken here like that poor I

1517
01:12:16,013 --> 01:12:18,772
Speaker 5: t guy. Look, he might just have to go out.

1518
01:12:19,093 --> 01:12:20,812
Speaker 5: I'd say that, you know, I want to say to him, like,

1519
01:12:20,893 --> 01:12:25,173
Speaker 5: I'm actually going out and buying an expresso machine to

1520
01:12:25,213 --> 01:12:27,132
Speaker 5: teach my kids how to become the best for ristas

1521
01:12:27,572 --> 01:12:29,772
Speaker 5: out there, just so they can go out and make

1522
01:12:29,853 --> 01:12:31,852
Speaker 5: some coffee. Because you need to be the best of

1523
01:12:31,973 --> 01:12:34,293
Speaker 5: the best at what you do. It's going to be

1524
01:12:34,372 --> 01:12:37,213
Speaker 5: hard graft. If you're not, you're not a go getter.

1525
01:12:37,853 --> 01:12:40,012
Speaker 5: I'm afraid you're going to be sitting on the pile.

1526
01:12:40,293 --> 01:12:42,492
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think yeah, when it comes to AI, those

1527
01:12:42,612 --> 01:12:45,133
Speaker 3: human service jobs are going to be what comes to

1528
01:12:45,213 --> 01:12:48,213
Speaker 3: the fore right, You're quite right, anything that's that's automated,

1529
01:12:48,612 --> 01:12:51,093
Speaker 3: And some would argue, you know, some creative industries are

1530
01:12:51,133 --> 01:12:54,293
Speaker 3: feeling the pinch with AI. But I'd agree that anything

1531
01:12:54,372 --> 01:12:57,333
Speaker 3: that services other humans or that that human aspect of

1532
01:12:57,692 --> 01:13:00,532
Speaker 3: the value proposition is going to be key going forward.

1533
01:13:00,612 --> 01:13:02,893
Speaker 3: But you've raised a whole bunch of scary thoughts that

1534
01:13:02,933 --> 01:13:04,013
Speaker 3: are in reality as well.

1535
01:13:04,893 --> 01:13:07,692
Speaker 5: One other thing is, you know, New Zealand we haven't

1536
01:13:07,692 --> 01:13:10,652
Speaker 5: developed any the industry, really have we From our primary

1537
01:13:10,973 --> 01:13:12,973
Speaker 5: think about it all that we talk and talk and

1538
01:13:13,053 --> 01:13:14,932
Speaker 5: talk for thirty years, and all we do is talk.

1539
01:13:15,013 --> 01:13:17,772
Speaker 5: We got MMP, so you never look the gas of stuff.

1540
01:13:18,093 --> 01:13:20,173
Speaker 5: The only way we're going to get going is like

1541
01:13:20,293 --> 01:13:23,172
Speaker 5: doing things like getting our hands dirty and getting ourselves

1542
01:13:23,213 --> 01:13:26,532
Speaker 5: into some industry, like you know, accommodating the Americans here

1543
01:13:26,612 --> 01:13:29,892
Speaker 5: with the naval ships. Imagine how many jobs that would produce.

1544
01:13:30,013 --> 01:13:32,492
Speaker 5: I think it's a great idea for one thing. If

1545
01:13:32,572 --> 01:13:35,933
Speaker 5: we get American assets on our soil, think about the

1546
01:13:36,053 --> 01:13:39,492
Speaker 5: defense we got automatic We're already We're back in there

1547
01:13:39,532 --> 01:13:40,333
Speaker 5: with them, aren't they.

1548
01:13:41,612 --> 01:13:43,852
Speaker 2: D Shane Jones mention that to Mike Hoskin this morning

1549
01:13:43,893 --> 01:13:46,013
Speaker 2: when he thought about for security. I agree with you.

1550
01:13:46,173 --> 01:13:47,333
Speaker 2: I mean, that makes sense to me.

1551
01:13:47,372 --> 01:13:48,812
Speaker 3: A lot of people would look at that and say

1552
01:13:49,053 --> 01:13:51,133
Speaker 3: the Americans half ony Marsden pointer.

1553
01:13:51,213 --> 01:13:52,892
Speaker 2: Is that a good idea? But on the security point

1554
01:13:52,893 --> 01:13:55,452
Speaker 2: of view, we got to lose key.

1555
01:13:55,532 --> 01:13:58,012
Speaker 5: We culture dragging us down again, right Yeah?

1556
01:13:58,732 --> 01:14:01,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on the agriculture, we can't do it. Yeah,

1557
01:14:01,492 --> 01:14:01,812
Speaker 2: we can't.

1558
01:14:01,853 --> 01:14:03,852
Speaker 5: We can't bring in people because we don't want more

1559
01:14:03,893 --> 01:14:06,253
Speaker 5: people around us, because we're keiweis who want all our space.

1560
01:14:06,572 --> 01:14:09,213
Speaker 5: But we want to have all our entitled Well, they're

1561
01:14:09,213 --> 01:14:11,852
Speaker 5: going to have to get real. Yeah, something's got to get.

1562
01:14:11,853 --> 01:14:13,372
Speaker 2: Well, we've got to be more ambitious, don't. We have

1563
01:14:13,492 --> 01:14:14,732
Speaker 2: no doubt about it, Steve.

1564
01:14:15,133 --> 01:14:18,133
Speaker 3: Agriculture has as kept this economy afloat for a long

1565
01:14:18,173 --> 01:14:20,893
Speaker 3: time and it is probably more than its weight in

1566
01:14:20,973 --> 01:14:23,532
Speaker 3: getting us through this the stuff period. But you're right,

1567
01:14:23,572 --> 01:14:25,772
Speaker 3: but it's a small it's a small margin product, doesn't it.

1568
01:14:25,812 --> 01:14:26,252
Speaker 2: Commodity.

1569
01:14:26,492 --> 01:14:28,572
Speaker 3: There's only so much profit you can make off off

1570
01:14:28,612 --> 01:14:30,612
Speaker 3: of agriculture in that primary industry.

1571
01:14:30,853 --> 01:14:32,293
Speaker 2: But this is why it gets frustrating.

1572
01:14:32,372 --> 01:14:34,772
Speaker 3: When there was a talk about Amazon Web Services coming

1573
01:14:34,772 --> 01:14:37,133
Speaker 3: into the country, and we talked about that on air

1574
01:14:37,293 --> 01:14:39,892
Speaker 3: and people were freaking out. The idea of Amazon who

1575
01:14:39,933 --> 01:14:42,333
Speaker 3: were dare come into New Zealand and set up this

1576
01:14:42,452 --> 01:14:45,892
Speaker 3: cloud servicing operation. That is where we start to make

1577
01:14:45,973 --> 01:14:47,732
Speaker 3: some money. And you look at rocket Lab and all

1578
01:14:47,772 --> 01:14:50,333
Speaker 3: these other ki entrepreneurs that have gone off seats because

1579
01:14:50,372 --> 01:14:52,412
Speaker 3: they can't do it here. That's where the money is.

1580
01:14:52,452 --> 01:14:54,692
Speaker 3: The gaming industry as well. You know, pump some money

1581
01:14:54,732 --> 01:14:56,932
Speaker 3: into the gaming industry, you get.

1582
01:14:56,812 --> 01:14:59,612
Speaker 5: Some little nuclear reactors. Mate, We've got to be good

1583
01:14:59,732 --> 01:14:59,893
Speaker 5: with it.

1584
01:15:00,133 --> 01:15:01,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we got it.

1585
01:15:01,692 --> 01:15:03,732
Speaker 5: We've got to stop listening to the luddite to drag

1586
01:15:03,853 --> 01:15:05,053
Speaker 5: us down. And you know, when I look on the

1587
01:15:05,133 --> 01:15:07,772
Speaker 5: news every night now, it's just all about what we

1588
01:15:07,853 --> 01:15:10,293
Speaker 5: can get from the government. It's about the Maori in

1589
01:15:10,452 --> 01:15:13,572
Speaker 5: fighting every single night. It's about Mary wanting this, Mary

1590
01:15:13,612 --> 01:15:17,532
Speaker 5: wanting that. You know, Erica Stanford right, she should be,

1591
01:15:18,692 --> 01:15:21,093
Speaker 5: you know, she should be the next Prime minister with

1592
01:15:21,333 --> 01:15:24,412
Speaker 5: the way her thought processes work. Because taking the treaty

1593
01:15:24,492 --> 01:15:26,893
Speaker 5: out for one thing, is such a great idea and

1594
01:15:27,013 --> 01:15:31,213
Speaker 5: replacing it with AI education. You know, you've got to

1595
01:15:31,253 --> 01:15:33,253
Speaker 5: get the kids up to the speed of the Asians.

1596
01:15:33,293 --> 01:15:35,412
Speaker 5: Do you notice you don't get any calls from Asian

1597
01:15:35,532 --> 01:15:37,852
Speaker 5: kids and Indian kids. Do you know why? Because they

1598
01:15:37,933 --> 01:15:40,852
Speaker 5: got the jobs, because they're hustlers, they get educated and

1599
01:15:40,893 --> 01:15:43,732
Speaker 5: their parents know the value of an education. The classic

1600
01:15:43,853 --> 01:15:48,572
Speaker 5: Kiwi unfortunately out there playing sport. Hey great and joining

1601
01:15:48,572 --> 01:15:51,173
Speaker 5: the outdoors and that's all well and good, but I'm

1602
01:15:51,213 --> 01:15:53,372
Speaker 5: afraid you're going to have to upskill a bit more

1603
01:15:53,412 --> 01:15:54,012
Speaker 5: along the way.

1604
01:15:54,372 --> 01:15:57,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, spot on, Steve. Look, you've made a lot of sense.

1605
01:15:57,492 --> 01:15:59,213
Speaker 3: You've covered a lot of ground, and some of it

1606
01:15:59,293 --> 01:16:01,333
Speaker 3: would be pretty scary for people to listen to but

1607
01:16:01,492 --> 01:16:03,053
Speaker 3: appreciate your call very much.

1608
01:16:03,093 --> 01:16:04,812
Speaker 2: We've got to take a break back very shortly. It

1609
01:16:04,973 --> 01:16:09,213
Speaker 2: is eight to three, the issues that affect you, and

1610
01:16:09,372 --> 01:16:10,612
Speaker 2: a bit of fun along the way.

1611
01:16:10,893 --> 01:16:14,372
Speaker 1: Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons news talks, they'd.

1612
01:16:14,213 --> 01:16:18,652
Speaker 2: Be it is six to three, get a sean. Thanks

1613
01:16:18,692 --> 01:16:19,093
Speaker 2: for hanging on.

1614
01:16:20,213 --> 01:16:23,173
Speaker 21: Oh, no problem. I'm just reinging to say that I've

1615
01:16:23,213 --> 01:16:26,732
Speaker 21: got a small country bar and struggling to find workers

1616
01:16:26,933 --> 01:16:29,093
Speaker 21: constantly pretty much year after year.

1617
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:30,973
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what part of the country.

1618
01:16:30,732 --> 01:16:31,133
Speaker 22: You win.

1619
01:16:32,692 --> 01:16:33,932
Speaker 7: Tartaanauki North Tardaanhaky.

1620
01:16:34,133 --> 01:16:34,333
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1621
01:16:35,013 --> 01:16:37,133
Speaker 3: So when you yeah, when you say workers say, it's

1622
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:39,213
Speaker 3: just what bartenders.

1623
01:16:38,853 --> 01:16:42,133
Speaker 21: Bartenders, chefs, housekeepers. They come and go, they get kind

1624
01:16:42,133 --> 01:16:43,372
Speaker 21: of get sick of doing dish to the young ones

1625
01:16:43,372 --> 01:16:45,053
Speaker 21: to get sick and doing dishes after six months and

1626
01:16:45,133 --> 01:16:48,532
Speaker 21: they pack it in and you're just constant flow really,

1627
01:16:48,612 --> 01:16:51,293
Speaker 21: so you've got to rely on tauris get you three

1628
01:16:51,333 --> 01:16:51,852
Speaker 21: most of the time.

1629
01:16:52,452 --> 01:16:54,732
Speaker 3: Well that sucks, doesn't it If you've got jobs ready

1630
01:16:54,772 --> 01:16:57,532
Speaker 3: to go for Kiwi's and when you look.

1631
01:16:57,492 --> 01:16:59,892
Speaker 21: After them too. We're a bit far out of town,

1632
01:16:59,973 --> 01:17:02,293
Speaker 21: but we're still giving them free food for accommodation while

1633
01:17:02,333 --> 01:17:04,772
Speaker 21: that's day. They could do twenty hours and two days

1634
01:17:05,452 --> 01:17:08,093
Speaker 21: or you know, or more. Sometimes I've got grounds with

1635
01:17:08,213 --> 01:17:09,892
Speaker 21: all sorts of work, and you make it work for them,

1636
01:17:09,933 --> 01:17:12,492
Speaker 21: and you just can't get them to get up here.

1637
01:17:12,572 --> 01:17:12,772
Speaker 22: Really.

1638
01:17:12,973 --> 01:17:15,452
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean that's it in a nutshell, Steve,

1639
01:17:15,572 --> 01:17:17,812
Speaker 3: that being a dish washer, and they can't. Oh, they

1640
01:17:17,812 --> 01:17:19,772
Speaker 3: don't like doing it, so they wrap it up after

1641
01:17:19,853 --> 01:17:23,093
Speaker 3: a short time. I can't understand that thinking, because I'd

1642
01:17:23,173 --> 01:17:25,013
Speaker 3: never turn my nose up at dish washing. If that

1643
01:17:25,173 --> 01:17:27,173
Speaker 3: was an opportunity and it was good money and I

1644
01:17:27,253 --> 01:17:30,892
Speaker 3: was getting paid, I'd absolutely no. Hopefully that was the start,

1645
01:17:31,372 --> 01:17:33,652
Speaker 3: and I'd work my way up or do that for

1646
01:17:33,772 --> 01:17:35,812
Speaker 3: long enough time until I found a high bandel.

1647
01:17:36,013 --> 01:17:36,213
Speaker 17: Yeah.

1648
01:17:37,013 --> 01:17:39,093
Speaker 21: Yeah, they start teaching them as well, and they just

1649
01:17:39,612 --> 01:17:41,572
Speaker 21: want to go back on the benefit instead of just

1650
01:17:41,652 --> 01:17:43,372
Speaker 21: carry on for a bit longer or want.

1651
01:17:43,293 --> 01:17:44,692
Speaker 8: To learn more as well.

1652
01:17:45,333 --> 01:17:47,572
Speaker 2: What's the Yeah, what's the name of your.

1653
01:17:49,532 --> 01:17:49,892
Speaker 21: Hotel?

1654
01:17:50,053 --> 01:17:51,172
Speaker 2: Aquina, hotel?

1655
01:17:51,853 --> 01:17:54,093
Speaker 3: Nice one child, come down and check it out next

1656
01:17:54,133 --> 01:17:57,812
Speaker 3: time I'm down that way, and hopefully yeah, yeah, you've

1657
01:17:57,853 --> 01:17:59,772
Speaker 3: got some workers by the time I turn up.

1658
01:17:59,812 --> 01:18:02,532
Speaker 21: But I work it through the extra work to make

1659
01:18:02,612 --> 01:18:02,932
Speaker 21: it work.

1660
01:18:03,013 --> 01:18:06,053
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, you're a good man, Sewan. Thank you

1661
01:18:06,213 --> 01:18:09,892
Speaker 2: very much. Great call. Wait, we might keep this going

1662
01:18:10,013 --> 01:18:10,892
Speaker 2: just for a little bit longer.

1663
01:18:10,893 --> 01:18:12,572
Speaker 3: I know it's been two hours, but it's been great

1664
01:18:12,652 --> 01:18:17,013
Speaker 3: conversation and there's been full boards all show. So we'll

1665
01:18:17,053 --> 01:18:19,852
Speaker 3: just get a couple more calls after the news because

1666
01:18:19,893 --> 01:18:22,333
Speaker 3: I do want to get into crazy stories on the

1667
01:18:22,412 --> 01:18:26,012
Speaker 3: motorway that's all coming up, New sport and weather fast approaching.

1668
01:18:26,053 --> 01:18:28,212
Speaker 3: Really good to be a company on this Wednesday afternoon.

1669
01:18:28,412 --> 01:18:31,213
Speaker 2: Hope you're doing pretty well. Stay right here. I will

1670
01:18:31,253 --> 01:18:32,572
Speaker 2: be back very shortly.

1671
01:18:36,532 --> 01:18:40,852
Speaker 1: Your new home for insateful and entertaining talk. It's Mattie

1672
01:18:41,093 --> 01:18:44,173
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk.

1673
01:18:44,293 --> 01:18:48,093
Speaker 3: Sevy, welcome back into the program. It is six past three.

1674
01:18:48,253 --> 01:18:51,013
Speaker 3: So we've been having a great chat about unemployment rate.

1675
01:18:51,093 --> 01:18:53,452
Speaker 3: It has edged up to five point three percent, but

1676
01:18:53,532 --> 01:18:56,012
Speaker 3: we've kind of focused on the youth unemployment rate, which

1677
01:18:56,093 --> 01:18:59,692
Speaker 3: is at fifteen percent for those age fifteen to twenty four.

1678
01:19:00,173 --> 01:19:04,133
Speaker 3: That is a concern and the government are hoping this

1679
01:19:04,293 --> 01:19:06,452
Speaker 3: is at the peak. But when you've got fifteen percent

1680
01:19:06,492 --> 01:19:09,612
Speaker 3: of young people fifteen to twenty four were out of work,

1681
01:19:10,173 --> 01:19:13,893
Speaker 3: when they work ready, they're physically able they're ready to go.

1682
01:19:14,492 --> 01:19:17,053
Speaker 3: I mean, something is wrong at that level, surely, but

1683
01:19:17,213 --> 01:19:19,732
Speaker 3: taking your experiences and your views on eight hundred and

1684
01:19:19,772 --> 01:19:22,173
Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty and we're only going to do this

1685
01:19:22,213 --> 01:19:25,572
Speaker 3: for another twenty five minutes, I think, because I really

1686
01:19:25,612 --> 01:19:27,572
Speaker 3: want to have a chat about craziness on the motorway.

1687
01:19:28,133 --> 01:19:30,452
Speaker 3: But if you want to come through, now is the time.

1688
01:19:30,572 --> 01:19:34,972
Speaker 3: Let's go to Bromwin, who's been hanging on get Abromwin. Hello,

1689
01:19:35,612 --> 01:19:36,412
Speaker 3: nice to chat with you.

1690
01:19:38,213 --> 01:19:41,173
Speaker 23: So my stories about the eighty five percent that are

1691
01:19:41,253 --> 01:19:45,572
Speaker 23: an employment because I had a daughter who, whether or

1692
01:19:45,612 --> 01:19:51,173
Speaker 23: not we were lucky or blessed or just had hopes

1693
01:19:51,372 --> 01:19:54,812
Speaker 23: that she actually managed to get herself three jobs at

1694
01:19:54,853 --> 01:19:59,092
Speaker 23: once at one time. So she never really settled at school.

1695
01:19:59,253 --> 01:20:03,093
Speaker 23: She's started at high school in twenty twenty, so what

1696
01:20:03,213 --> 01:20:08,492
Speaker 23: I call the COVID years, she was at home more

1697
01:20:08,532 --> 01:20:10,973
Speaker 23: than she was at school. Then we had the strikes,

1698
01:20:11,213 --> 01:20:14,452
Speaker 23: tried to do homeschooling, and she just didn't settle. She

1699
01:20:14,572 --> 01:20:18,692
Speaker 23: was quite sporty, but left at that sixth form whatever

1700
01:20:19,133 --> 01:20:20,692
Speaker 23: year twelve of.

1701
01:20:20,732 --> 01:20:21,932
Speaker 2: It, yeah, yeah, twelve yep.

1702
01:20:23,692 --> 01:20:27,532
Speaker 23: So work part time. She did the stopping the shelf

1703
01:20:27,572 --> 01:20:30,732
Speaker 23: at at supermarket at six o'clock in the morning, having

1704
01:20:30,772 --> 01:20:34,133
Speaker 23: to wear gloves because the not sillers were so cold,

1705
01:20:34,333 --> 01:20:38,213
Speaker 23: and us dropping her off. She worked at Subway. She

1706
01:20:38,293 --> 01:20:40,173
Speaker 23: didn't even have a full license, so we had to

1707
01:20:40,253 --> 01:20:42,412
Speaker 23: drive her down and sit outside as she opened up

1708
01:20:42,492 --> 01:20:43,692
Speaker 23: the shop.

1709
01:20:43,812 --> 01:20:48,133
Speaker 2: It's sup a year guys with parents, so it's like.

1710
01:20:49,732 --> 01:20:51,173
Speaker 16: She worked a butt off.

1711
01:20:51,372 --> 01:20:54,013
Speaker 23: She did whatever she could to try to get her

1712
01:20:54,053 --> 01:20:57,653
Speaker 23: from the door and try to build that work experience

1713
01:20:57,772 --> 01:21:00,652
Speaker 23: that she could then use on a CV to apply

1714
01:21:00,853 --> 01:21:06,973
Speaker 23: for a longer full time job. She waitressed, worked bar

1715
01:21:07,452 --> 01:21:09,372
Speaker 23: I heard another one of your callers saying he was

1716
01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:13,293
Speaker 23: going to buy an exprusso machine. She got her certificate

1717
01:21:13,412 --> 01:21:18,012
Speaker 23: for making coffees, and she just kept her her nose

1718
01:21:18,093 --> 01:21:22,173
Speaker 23: to the ground and luckily she saw an advert for

1719
01:21:22,253 --> 01:21:26,973
Speaker 23: Wellington Airport for ground crew. They had eight hundred applications

1720
01:21:27,333 --> 01:21:28,572
Speaker 23: that job and she got it.

1721
01:21:28,973 --> 01:21:30,732
Speaker 2: Holy. I mean, that's like winning lotter.

1722
01:21:30,973 --> 01:21:36,772
Speaker 23: So yeah, there is hope. I don't know if she

1723
01:21:37,213 --> 01:21:39,732
Speaker 23: was just one of the ones that was really focused,

1724
01:21:39,772 --> 01:21:42,333
Speaker 23: but she had done the volunteering before she started getting

1725
01:21:42,372 --> 01:21:46,372
Speaker 23: paid work. Nothing that helps, It's just nothing. Another caller.

1726
01:21:46,372 --> 01:21:48,133
Speaker 23: You've got to keep yourself busy. You've just got to

1727
01:21:48,213 --> 01:21:50,372
Speaker 23: keep getting out there in front of people.

1728
01:21:51,173 --> 01:21:52,492
Speaker 2: Just getting more things on the CV.

1729
01:21:52,652 --> 01:21:54,812
Speaker 3: By the sounds of it, bron Win, I mean, clearly

1730
01:21:54,973 --> 01:21:56,933
Speaker 3: your daughter is a very hard worker AND's got that

1731
01:21:57,093 --> 01:21:59,812
Speaker 3: work ethic that I take it she probably got from

1732
01:21:59,933 --> 01:22:03,932
Speaker 3: from you guys as parents. You know, it's just reality.

1733
01:22:03,973 --> 01:22:05,692
Speaker 3: You know, when someone does have a good work ethic,

1734
01:22:05,732 --> 01:22:07,972
Speaker 3: where does that come from? It's d you know, ninety

1735
01:22:08,053 --> 01:22:09,812
Speaker 3: nine per center the time it is from the parents.

1736
01:22:10,853 --> 01:22:14,053
Speaker 3: And the ability to show that she could put her

1737
01:22:14,133 --> 01:22:16,293
Speaker 3: head down and do the work and do various different

1738
01:22:16,333 --> 01:22:19,013
Speaker 3: types of work. And as you say, volunteering clearly put

1739
01:22:19,053 --> 01:22:20,492
Speaker 3: her to the top of the pack. When she went

1740
01:22:20,532 --> 01:22:21,492
Speaker 3: for the ground crew job.

1741
01:22:22,772 --> 01:22:25,093
Speaker 23: There was an interesting bit of feedback which was when

1742
01:22:25,133 --> 01:22:28,253
Speaker 23: she had the interview at Subway, they actually said to her,

1743
01:22:28,333 --> 01:22:31,612
Speaker 23: have you practiced this interview? And she said yes, So

1744
01:22:31,732 --> 01:22:34,333
Speaker 23: she actually sat down with us and we practiced in

1745
01:22:34,372 --> 01:22:36,892
Speaker 23: a few questions with us. Now, what did she bring

1746
01:22:36,973 --> 01:22:40,372
Speaker 23: to the job and know? And I don't think those

1747
01:22:40,452 --> 01:22:42,933
Speaker 23: resources are available to a lot of parents. So we

1748
01:22:43,093 --> 01:22:47,612
Speaker 23: are in business, so maybe there's more supports for the

1749
01:22:47,732 --> 01:22:49,973
Speaker 23: parents to then be able to help their teenagers.

1750
01:22:50,133 --> 01:22:52,572
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, even at the job seeker level, within because

1751
01:22:52,572 --> 01:22:56,253
Speaker 3: you're so right the practice of being in an interview,

1752
01:22:56,293 --> 01:22:58,732
Speaker 3: because it is an incredibly daunting thing for a lot

1753
01:22:58,772 --> 01:23:01,572
Speaker 3: of people. And look, i haven't had an interview for

1754
01:23:01,652 --> 01:23:03,933
Speaker 3: some time, but I'd still be incredibly daunted going in

1755
01:23:04,053 --> 01:23:07,732
Speaker 3: for a job interview. And now it seems like every

1756
01:23:07,812 --> 01:23:10,572
Speaker 3: manager and the company wants to be seated at that table.

1757
01:23:10,612 --> 01:23:12,852
Speaker 3: So you're sitting in front of four or five people

1758
01:23:13,333 --> 01:23:15,253
Speaker 3: trying to patch why you're going to be the best

1759
01:23:15,293 --> 01:23:17,732
Speaker 3: person for the job, but being able to sit down,

1760
01:23:18,013 --> 01:23:20,772
Speaker 3: as you say, and just go through potential questions. How

1761
01:23:20,812 --> 01:23:22,572
Speaker 3: do you deal with this curve? Well, if they throw

1762
01:23:22,572 --> 01:23:24,492
Speaker 3: it at you, make sure that you ask some questions

1763
01:23:24,532 --> 01:23:26,652
Speaker 3: of them. You do your research about the company so

1764
01:23:26,772 --> 01:23:29,013
Speaker 3: you know a few projects that have gone underway and

1765
01:23:29,333 --> 01:23:30,933
Speaker 3: at the work and income level for those on the

1766
01:23:31,013 --> 01:23:33,213
Speaker 3: job seeker, if they don't have that ability or support

1767
01:23:33,253 --> 01:23:36,093
Speaker 3: out in the home, then they should be providing that

1768
01:23:36,412 --> 01:23:40,092
Speaker 3: within that organization. That's critical to get people into jobs.

1769
01:23:40,973 --> 01:23:43,213
Speaker 23: Yeah, and there's another thing. I don't know if this

1770
01:23:43,372 --> 01:23:47,892
Speaker 23: has got any evidence behind it at all, but before COVID,

1771
01:23:47,973 --> 01:23:50,053
Speaker 23: we had a whole lot of our young people that

1772
01:23:50,293 --> 01:23:52,452
Speaker 23: maybe started in the workforce and then went off and

1773
01:23:52,492 --> 01:23:55,133
Speaker 23: did their oe and that kind of got shut down.

1774
01:23:55,572 --> 01:23:58,133
Speaker 23: So there's a whole like three or four years worth

1775
01:23:58,173 --> 01:24:00,133
Speaker 23: of people that are now in the workforce that may

1776
01:24:00,253 --> 01:24:04,412
Speaker 23: potentially not have been. So you've kind of got a

1777
01:24:04,692 --> 01:24:06,973
Speaker 23: really tight market. You've got lots of people trying for

1778
01:24:07,093 --> 01:24:09,452
Speaker 23: jobs that probably don't have the confidence for the schools

1779
01:24:09,532 --> 01:24:12,852
Speaker 23: to get them, and it's like that perfect storm. So

1780
01:24:13,652 --> 01:24:17,092
Speaker 23: I'm just I'm blessed. I'm really happy that she's managed

1781
01:24:17,133 --> 01:24:17,812
Speaker 23: to find defeat.

1782
01:24:18,053 --> 01:24:19,772
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can tell, I can tell, and it's a

1783
01:24:19,812 --> 01:24:22,372
Speaker 3: great story. Thank you very much, Bronwyn in congrats to

1784
01:24:22,452 --> 01:24:24,852
Speaker 3: your daughter. That is a fantastic job ground crew at

1785
01:24:24,893 --> 01:24:25,333
Speaker 3: the airport.

1786
01:24:25,812 --> 01:24:26,293
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1787
01:24:26,492 --> 01:24:29,732
Speaker 3: Positive story there from Bromwyn. Have you had a similar

1788
01:24:29,893 --> 01:24:32,692
Speaker 3: experience with your kids. When you put your head down

1789
01:24:32,812 --> 01:24:35,012
Speaker 3: and you do the hard graft and you do the hustle.

1790
01:24:35,532 --> 01:24:37,852
Speaker 3: There obviously is you know, an element of luck to it,

1791
01:24:37,973 --> 01:24:40,053
Speaker 3: but there's also if you work hard and you've got

1792
01:24:40,133 --> 01:24:43,612
Speaker 3: that work ethic behind you, clearly good things happen over time. Oh,

1793
01:24:43,652 --> 01:24:45,293
Speaker 3: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

1794
01:24:45,333 --> 01:24:48,133
Speaker 3: to call? It is twelve past three, bag very shortly.

1795
01:24:48,732 --> 01:24:49,692
Speaker 1: News talks'd be.

1796
01:24:50,133 --> 01:24:51,293
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon to you.

1797
01:24:51,372 --> 01:24:53,852
Speaker 3: We'll get back to the unemployment chat very soon, but

1798
01:24:54,013 --> 01:24:57,372
Speaker 3: for those interested, obviously, there's some gurber national elections going

1799
01:24:57,412 --> 01:25:00,452
Speaker 3: on in the United States. I'm just watching Fox News

1800
01:25:01,213 --> 01:25:04,492
Speaker 3: at the moment, and pretty close when it comes to

1801
01:25:04,853 --> 01:25:07,372
Speaker 3: the election of the New York mayor. As you can imagine,

1802
01:25:07,372 --> 01:25:09,732
Speaker 3: it's probably leaning always going to lean pretty heavily in

1803
01:25:09,772 --> 01:25:13,612
Speaker 3: the Democratic side. At the moment, they're predicting a fifty

1804
01:25:13,812 --> 01:25:18,732
Speaker 3: seven percent Democratic to forty two percent Republican. The New

1805
01:25:18,853 --> 01:25:21,452
Speaker 3: Jersey governor race still too early to call as well,

1806
01:25:21,692 --> 01:25:23,612
Speaker 3: they'll just put it up on the screen. So Cheryl

1807
01:25:23,853 --> 01:25:27,372
Speaker 3: is at fifty seven percent as well, and the Republican

1808
01:25:27,412 --> 01:25:30,532
Speaker 3: candidate at forty two percent, so that is hiding up.

1809
01:25:31,213 --> 01:25:33,612
Speaker 3: There was some analysis that this would be a bit

1810
01:25:33,652 --> 01:25:37,132
Speaker 3: of a or a first test for Trump's presidency ahead

1811
01:25:37,293 --> 01:25:40,372
Speaker 3: of the midterms next year. So there'll be plenty more

1812
01:25:40,452 --> 01:25:43,253
Speaker 3: on that story, I imagine, with Heather after four o'clock

1813
01:25:43,293 --> 01:25:44,772
Speaker 3: as well. But we'll keep you updated with that one

1814
01:25:44,812 --> 01:25:47,532
Speaker 3: as we as the afternoon progresses. But let's get back

1815
01:25:47,572 --> 01:25:50,893
Speaker 3: to the unemployment levels at five point three percent, and

1816
01:25:51,053 --> 01:25:53,852
Speaker 3: particularly the youth unemployment levels at fifteen percent. If you're

1817
01:25:53,853 --> 01:25:56,492
Speaker 3: a parent, or if you're in the job marketers as

1818
01:25:56,532 --> 01:25:58,452
Speaker 3: a young person yourself, I'd love to hear from you

1819
01:25:58,492 --> 01:25:59,892
Speaker 3: on oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1820
01:25:59,973 --> 01:26:02,972
Speaker 2: How hard is it Steve? How are you this afternoon?

1821
01:26:04,053 --> 01:26:04,213
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1822
01:26:04,333 --> 01:26:05,452
Speaker 5: Great, Tyler? What about yourself?

1823
01:26:05,732 --> 01:26:05,772
Speaker 24: On?

1824
01:26:06,013 --> 01:26:09,412
Speaker 3: Very good for a Wednesday and joining this conversation. It's

1825
01:26:09,492 --> 01:26:11,692
Speaker 3: been full always to the last two and a half hours.

1826
01:26:13,053 --> 01:26:14,452
Speaker 4: Hey mate, I've got.

1827
01:26:14,492 --> 01:26:17,492
Speaker 5: I've got a now twenty year old son. He left

1828
01:26:17,572 --> 01:26:19,932
Speaker 5: college a year and a half or two years ago

1829
01:26:20,053 --> 01:26:22,893
Speaker 5: now level I did a year thirteen and then he

1830
01:26:22,933 --> 01:26:25,732
Speaker 5: went and did a pre trade electrical course and he's

1831
01:26:25,772 --> 01:26:27,692
Speaker 5: been trying all year to get an apprenticeship to be

1832
01:26:27,732 --> 01:26:30,772
Speaker 5: an electrician. And it's just and we're in Wellington and

1833
01:26:30,853 --> 01:26:33,173
Speaker 5: it's just half ads, mate, for these kids to get

1834
01:26:33,213 --> 01:26:37,253
Speaker 5: a job until the government, you know, releases some funds

1835
01:26:37,293 --> 01:26:41,133
Speaker 5: and the infrastructure you know, around Wellington particularly, it's just

1836
01:26:41,253 --> 01:26:45,253
Speaker 5: going to be tough. He's applied all over the place

1837
01:26:45,293 --> 01:26:47,253
Speaker 5: and the door's shut. And I mean there's several of

1838
01:26:47,333 --> 01:26:50,412
Speaker 5: these guys that are running these businesses say mate, I'm

1839
01:26:50,532 --> 01:26:52,333
Speaker 5: back on the tools because you know, I just can't

1840
01:26:52,333 --> 01:26:54,732
Speaker 5: afford to have you know, the staff at the moment

1841
01:26:54,772 --> 01:26:57,293
Speaker 5: because there's just not a lot of work out there. Well,

1842
01:26:57,412 --> 01:26:58,412
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's work.

1843
01:26:58,253 --> 01:27:00,133
Speaker 7: But you know what I'm saying, it's not easy for

1844
01:27:00,213 --> 01:27:01,213
Speaker 7: these kids that.

1845
01:27:01,772 --> 01:27:04,133
Speaker 5: Want to do what they want to do when the

1846
01:27:04,333 --> 01:27:06,572
Speaker 5: when the door is not quite open yet.

1847
01:27:06,933 --> 01:27:10,372
Speaker 3: Well, those government contracts and a place like Wellington absolutely, Steve,

1848
01:27:10,412 --> 01:27:12,772
Speaker 3: you bang on, they employ a lot of people when

1849
01:27:13,053 --> 01:27:15,932
Speaker 3: spending that sort of money and getting those infrastructure projects

1850
01:27:16,013 --> 01:27:18,852
Speaker 3: on the ground. And I imagine you know Wellington is

1851
01:27:19,093 --> 01:27:21,013
Speaker 3: I'm just looking at the figures here is certainly one

1852
01:27:21,053 --> 01:27:23,053
Speaker 3: of the metros that is facing a hard time with

1853
01:27:23,093 --> 01:27:26,372
Speaker 3: the unemployment rate. So when you I mean even I

1854
01:27:26,372 --> 01:27:29,532
Speaker 3: suppose those entry level jobs and the likes of supermarkets

1855
01:27:29,772 --> 01:27:33,132
Speaker 3: and you know Subway for example, they'll be getting hundreds

1856
01:27:33,133 --> 01:27:34,772
Speaker 3: and hundreds of applications in that region.

1857
01:27:35,053 --> 01:27:39,293
Speaker 5: Steve, Yeah, without out but I mean in the supermarket industry,

1858
01:27:39,333 --> 01:27:41,293
Speaker 5: I'm in it a little bit. And there's there's you know,

1859
01:27:41,412 --> 01:27:44,852
Speaker 5: these these kids also like they'll get a some of

1860
01:27:44,893 --> 01:27:46,372
Speaker 5: them only want to work two or three days a

1861
01:27:46,412 --> 01:27:49,293
Speaker 5: week because I talked to them, and you know, and

1862
01:27:49,452 --> 01:27:51,852
Speaker 5: the other thing is is they get these these split

1863
01:27:51,973 --> 01:27:55,173
Speaker 5: days where I'll do a Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and have

1864
01:27:55,253 --> 01:27:57,253
Speaker 5: a Wednesday off, and they might get a Friday off

1865
01:27:57,372 --> 01:27:59,492
Speaker 5: or something, you know, or a Tuesday and then get

1866
01:27:59,532 --> 01:28:01,612
Speaker 5: a Friday off, and that's a bit tough on them too.

1867
01:28:01,692 --> 01:28:03,732
Speaker 5: You know, everyone deserves a couple of days off in

1868
01:28:03,772 --> 01:28:05,852
Speaker 5: a row. So if I guess that's why a lot

1869
01:28:05,893 --> 01:28:07,333
Speaker 5: of them don't want to go and work at these

1870
01:28:07,372 --> 01:28:07,932
Speaker 5: sort of jobs.

1871
01:28:07,973 --> 01:28:08,133
Speaker 10: You know.

1872
01:28:09,053 --> 01:28:11,293
Speaker 3: And so where is your son at at the moment.

1873
01:28:11,412 --> 01:28:14,013
Speaker 3: Is he still pushing through just applying for anything that

1874
01:28:14,093 --> 01:28:15,173
Speaker 3: he can or is he thinking it?

1875
01:28:15,253 --> 01:28:19,253
Speaker 5: Maybe he's definitely out there trying to do he's trying

1876
01:28:19,293 --> 01:28:22,213
Speaker 5: to get some still get an apprenticeship, and he's applying

1877
01:28:22,293 --> 01:28:26,452
Speaker 5: for stuff. But he's fortunate. He's a silly, talented young musician.

1878
01:28:26,532 --> 01:28:29,492
Speaker 5: So he's out there out there on most weekends making

1879
01:28:29,692 --> 01:28:31,452
Speaker 5: a little bit of money to get by. So that's

1880
01:28:31,532 --> 01:28:33,772
Speaker 5: that's good. And he's still living at home and I

1881
01:28:34,333 --> 01:28:38,053
Speaker 5: like that anyway. But it's just tough on these young

1882
01:28:38,412 --> 01:28:41,012
Speaker 5: young kids, I think these days. I just think, particularly

1883
01:28:41,013 --> 01:28:42,692
Speaker 5: in Willington, I don't know the rest of the country.

1884
01:28:42,732 --> 01:28:45,013
Speaker 5: I just know that, you know, it's I know a

1885
01:28:45,093 --> 01:28:47,492
Speaker 5: lot of tradees and they're all doing it tough.

1886
01:28:48,652 --> 01:28:51,053
Speaker 3: It's particularly hard Stephen, You're right, you know, there's there's

1887
01:28:51,093 --> 01:28:55,333
Speaker 3: some commentary that comes through the four about about laziness

1888
01:28:55,732 --> 01:28:57,572
Speaker 3: or they don't have the work ethic, and I don't

1889
01:28:57,612 --> 01:29:00,333
Speaker 3: buy that that. It is incredibly tough for young people

1890
01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:02,972
Speaker 3: when they finish school or university and degree and come

1891
01:29:03,053 --> 01:29:07,813
Speaker 3: into an incredibly tough job market after a prolonged downturn.

1892
01:29:08,412 --> 01:29:10,932
Speaker 2: That is, that's a hard place to start your career.

1893
01:29:11,013 --> 01:29:11,893
Speaker 2: And no doubt about it.

1894
01:29:12,053 --> 01:29:14,572
Speaker 3: People are you know, young people in between fifteen and

1895
01:29:14,612 --> 01:29:17,693
Speaker 3: twenty four heading that they are at a serious disadvantage

1896
01:29:17,732 --> 01:29:19,133
Speaker 3: through no fault of their own at the moment.

1897
01:29:20,253 --> 01:29:23,693
Speaker 5: Yeah, and a lot of people they want experience electricians

1898
01:29:23,772 --> 01:29:27,173
Speaker 5: or full time you know, qualified electricians, and that's tough.

1899
01:29:27,213 --> 01:29:28,973
Speaker 5: I mean a kid can't get a break if you know,

1900
01:29:29,692 --> 01:29:31,333
Speaker 5: rock at a hard place to get experience.

1901
01:29:31,372 --> 01:29:32,213
Speaker 9: You need the job, you know.

1902
01:29:32,412 --> 01:29:34,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeap, one hundred percent. Steve, all the best for

1903
01:29:34,732 --> 01:29:36,933
Speaker 3: your son and really hope you pick something up. But

1904
01:29:37,013 --> 01:29:39,892
Speaker 3: it sounds like as a talented musician, he is hustling

1905
01:29:39,933 --> 01:29:41,732
Speaker 3: and doing what he needs to do to get by.

1906
01:29:42,412 --> 01:29:44,093
Speaker 3: And as you say, it's always nice to have the

1907
01:29:44,173 --> 01:29:46,013
Speaker 3: kids at home for as long as possible. Oh, eight

1908
01:29:46,013 --> 01:29:48,532
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1909
01:29:49,293 --> 01:29:51,572
Speaker 3: It is twenty past three. We've gotta play some messages.

1910
01:29:51,612 --> 01:29:53,013
Speaker 3: But after the break we're gonna have a chat to

1911
01:29:53,133 --> 01:29:55,652
Speaker 3: Pepper and she wants to have a chat about kids

1912
01:29:55,692 --> 01:29:58,452
Speaker 3: that hustled into jobs. That is coming up next. You're

1913
01:29:58,492 --> 01:30:00,253
Speaker 3: listening to news Talks the b Hope you having a

1914
01:30:00,293 --> 01:30:01,333
Speaker 3: good afternoon.

1915
01:30:04,532 --> 01:30:07,933
Speaker 1: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and

1916
01:30:07,973 --> 01:30:09,612
Speaker 1: eighty an eighty on Youth Talks.

1917
01:30:10,213 --> 01:30:12,772
Speaker 2: It's twenty two past three, Papa.

1918
01:30:13,333 --> 01:30:17,293
Speaker 25: Yeah, come fine, Sorry, it's all right.

1919
01:30:17,372 --> 01:30:20,253
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on on your Wednesday afternoon. That's fine.

1920
01:30:20,293 --> 01:30:20,772
Speaker 2: You can say.

1921
01:30:21,973 --> 01:30:24,133
Speaker 25: I was just a Graymouth is a few months ago

1922
01:30:25,973 --> 01:30:27,732
Speaker 25: for the tricker. I'd seen that the racers who lives

1923
01:30:27,772 --> 01:30:30,692
Speaker 25: down the robe. I just saw her for the first

1924
01:30:30,732 --> 01:30:32,213
Speaker 25: time and I just stay out of it.

1925
01:30:33,532 --> 01:30:35,892
Speaker 2: You can carry on having the conversation with her.

1926
01:30:37,372 --> 01:30:38,213
Speaker 22: You got back.

1927
01:30:39,692 --> 01:30:41,733
Speaker 25: I wanted to see it though, because.

1928
01:30:41,933 --> 01:30:45,213
Speaker 2: Yeah, a small Kumata races.

1929
01:30:46,812 --> 01:30:50,053
Speaker 25: It was, yes, I was at the Graymouth ones. My

1930
01:30:50,412 --> 01:30:55,293
Speaker 25: stepson's a Corse trainer, right, and we flew down to

1931
01:30:55,412 --> 01:30:57,932
Speaker 25: christ and went over to grow. Oh. Actually from Graymouth.

1932
01:30:57,973 --> 01:31:01,372
Speaker 25: So I went to the racers meet this girl at

1933
01:31:01,412 --> 01:31:03,093
Speaker 25: the races hetta. She was coming up to live in

1934
01:31:03,133 --> 01:31:06,133
Speaker 25: Altucky and you go to I'm not play the university

1935
01:31:06,692 --> 01:31:08,612
Speaker 25: and I do, and she's, you wouldn't know where I live.

1936
01:31:08,933 --> 01:31:13,572
Speaker 25: My uncle is down Greenwood Boulevard. I live them like

1937
01:31:13,732 --> 01:31:15,692
Speaker 25: cutting the country schedual kidding. No, I don't know anyone

1938
01:31:15,692 --> 01:31:17,973
Speaker 25: else that lives there. And anyway, she said, look out

1939
01:31:18,013 --> 01:31:21,812
Speaker 25: for you. I just saw it puts I love.

1940
01:31:21,732 --> 01:31:24,333
Speaker 2: New Zealand, you know that two degrees of separation. It's

1941
01:31:24,333 --> 01:31:24,973
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing.

1942
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:27,133
Speaker 25: Paper so cut, but good to see you. So I

1943
01:31:27,213 --> 01:31:28,293
Speaker 25: was like, I know you you.

1944
01:31:30,853 --> 01:31:34,293
Speaker 3: Great races by the way Graymouth I attended. Oh gosh,

1945
01:31:34,333 --> 01:31:36,213
Speaker 3: it must have been two thousand and seven or six,

1946
01:31:36,973 --> 01:31:38,013
Speaker 3: had it at a ball of the time.

1947
01:31:38,133 --> 01:31:38,772
Speaker 2: It was great fun.

1948
01:31:38,933 --> 01:31:42,092
Speaker 25: Well to the best one, the one I really wanted

1949
01:31:42,133 --> 01:31:44,093
Speaker 25: to go through because but we weren't. It was the

1950
01:31:44,173 --> 01:31:46,053
Speaker 25: reefed and races really wanted to go there.

1951
01:31:46,333 --> 01:31:48,812
Speaker 2: Yeah, still plenty of time, Pepper, still plenty of time.

1952
01:31:49,133 --> 01:31:49,333
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1953
01:31:49,812 --> 01:31:52,133
Speaker 3: Anyway, we've been sidetracked in a good way because I've

1954
01:31:52,213 --> 01:31:54,133
Speaker 3: enjoyed that. But let's have a chat about our kids.

1955
01:31:54,572 --> 01:31:55,492
Speaker 3: Hustling into jobs.

1956
01:31:56,253 --> 01:31:59,053
Speaker 25: Well, so I've got two boys, they're twenty two and

1957
01:31:59,133 --> 01:32:01,253
Speaker 25: twenty four now, and I bought them off on my own.

1958
01:32:01,692 --> 01:32:04,213
Speaker 25: Now they both had done. It was interesting listening to

1959
01:32:04,253 --> 01:32:08,572
Speaker 25: the electrician story. My oldest son's no electrician and he

1960
01:32:09,492 --> 01:32:13,732
Speaker 25: basically less gone did that pre electrical warst and very

1961
01:32:13,812 --> 01:32:16,333
Speaker 25: luckily he's a bit of a side hustler. He played

1962
01:32:16,492 --> 01:32:19,772
Speaker 25: in a band and he went and played for a

1963
01:32:19,893 --> 01:32:22,293
Speaker 25: musical and one of the electricians there got him a job,

1964
01:32:22,372 --> 01:32:24,812
Speaker 25: so he sort of hustled himself into that. He got

1965
01:32:24,893 --> 01:32:27,652
Speaker 25: laid off that job and went to another job, and

1966
01:32:27,933 --> 01:32:30,213
Speaker 25: it was one of the big big companies, but of

1967
01:32:30,333 --> 01:32:32,652
Speaker 25: course everyone's getting laid off. He got laid off from that,

1968
01:32:32,893 --> 01:32:35,492
Speaker 25: so then two in his second job, as a fully

1969
01:32:35,572 --> 01:32:38,213
Speaker 25: qualified apprentice, he lost that job. So this was at

1970
01:32:38,253 --> 01:32:40,492
Speaker 25: the beginning of this year, and then head, I'll just

1971
01:32:40,572 --> 01:32:42,492
Speaker 25: going on my own and we're like a yeah, So

1972
01:32:42,652 --> 01:32:44,372
Speaker 25: sort of went out on his own and then ended

1973
01:32:44,452 --> 01:32:47,173
Speaker 25: up being contracted to another electrician who he's now working

1974
01:32:47,253 --> 01:32:50,772
Speaker 25: for full time. So he's done really good now and

1975
01:32:50,893 --> 01:32:54,093
Speaker 25: he he bought his own house. He really has. The

1976
01:32:54,213 --> 01:32:57,732
Speaker 25: younger one has also done extreamly well. He's a real

1977
01:32:57,812 --> 01:32:58,452
Speaker 25: side hustler.

1978
01:32:58,933 --> 01:32:59,572
Speaker 16: He's got that.

1979
01:33:00,492 --> 01:33:04,452
Speaker 25: He's done his four years at Victoria. He's now doing

1980
01:33:05,133 --> 01:33:07,492
Speaker 25: looking for a freight company in a post grade program.

1981
01:33:07,732 --> 01:33:14,093
Speaker 25: But as a eye hustle, he's doing the AI workshops

1982
01:33:14,213 --> 01:33:16,652
Speaker 25: like take inviting people to this AI. I don't even

1983
01:33:16,732 --> 01:33:19,973
Speaker 25: understand it, but he's doing thatique. He is incredible, and

1984
01:33:20,093 --> 01:33:22,173
Speaker 25: I'm like, and he goes, He'll tell me you want

1985
01:33:22,213 --> 01:33:22,732
Speaker 25: to understand it.

1986
01:33:22,933 --> 01:33:23,932
Speaker 7: I'm like, I probably want.

1987
01:33:25,612 --> 01:33:27,692
Speaker 25: But they've both done really well. And they've done it

1988
01:33:27,853 --> 01:33:30,652
Speaker 25: because and I think it's me because it was only me.

1989
01:33:31,732 --> 01:33:33,973
Speaker 25: They had jobs, had a paper run. We all did

1990
01:33:33,973 --> 01:33:36,692
Speaker 25: this little family paper run when they were like twelve

1991
01:33:36,772 --> 01:33:40,732
Speaker 25: and thirteen, and then they did they always had part

1992
01:33:40,772 --> 01:33:43,333
Speaker 25: time jobs. And I do believe that once and they

1993
01:33:43,412 --> 01:33:46,612
Speaker 25: saw me. I always worked. I've worked from the you know,

1994
01:33:47,253 --> 01:33:50,092
Speaker 25: even when I was you know, with them as little boys,

1995
01:33:50,293 --> 01:33:52,612
Speaker 25: they I always had a job. They've never seen me

1996
01:33:53,213 --> 01:33:55,852
Speaker 25: not work, and they knew it was in the blood

1997
01:33:56,093 --> 01:33:58,013
Speaker 25: that they were going to have to work to and

1998
01:33:58,133 --> 01:34:00,532
Speaker 25: they have like that. Just they've done it. They've made it.

1999
01:34:01,293 --> 01:34:03,173
Speaker 25: But the side hustling is a real thing because the

2000
01:34:03,253 --> 01:34:05,692
Speaker 25: other one, the older one, he's also in a band,

2001
01:34:05,772 --> 01:34:07,013
Speaker 25: and I think he's got this big thing.

2002
01:34:07,093 --> 01:34:08,052
Speaker 16: He's going to make money.

2003
01:34:07,853 --> 01:34:10,253
Speaker 25: Out of the band too, And you know, goes to

2004
01:34:10,333 --> 01:34:12,253
Speaker 25: the pubs and asks, you know, can we play there

2005
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:12,572
Speaker 25: and here?

2006
01:34:12,652 --> 01:34:14,652
Speaker 22: And you know, just have done really well.

2007
01:34:14,853 --> 01:34:18,492
Speaker 25: And I listened to these kids that don't, and I

2008
01:34:18,612 --> 01:34:21,612
Speaker 25: think it's it's said they just maybe they just haven't

2009
01:34:21,652 --> 01:34:23,812
Speaker 25: hit the workie things founded into them.

2010
01:34:24,173 --> 01:34:26,372
Speaker 3: Well, you sound like a great mumpeper, but you bang on,

2011
01:34:26,572 --> 01:34:29,492
Speaker 3: I think, And how do I phrase this, because clearly,

2012
01:34:30,133 --> 01:34:32,293
Speaker 3: as a parent, you want to be that safety net

2013
01:34:32,412 --> 01:34:35,253
Speaker 3: for your kids if they need to, but also that

2014
01:34:35,492 --> 01:34:38,812
Speaker 3: message there that you should be working and you should

2015
01:34:38,853 --> 01:34:40,892
Speaker 3: be bringing in an income if you're not at study.

2016
01:34:41,013 --> 01:34:44,253
Speaker 3: I mean certainly that was the position that I was always.

2017
01:34:44,293 --> 01:34:46,253
Speaker 3: I know, to mention that Dad would give me grief

2018
01:34:46,293 --> 01:34:47,572
Speaker 3: if I didn't have a job. He didn't want to

2019
01:34:47,572 --> 01:34:49,372
Speaker 3: see me at home. So I'm like, well, bugger, that's

2020
01:34:49,372 --> 01:34:51,013
Speaker 3: a bit. You know, I got a hustle here to

2021
01:34:51,053 --> 01:34:53,093
Speaker 3: get a job because I'm not allow back of the

2022
01:34:53,173 --> 01:34:54,532
Speaker 3: house during the day.

2023
01:34:54,893 --> 01:34:56,732
Speaker 25: It was My dad was the same and he still

2024
01:34:57,173 --> 01:35:00,213
Speaker 25: with my kids, you know, like one of them will

2025
01:35:00,253 --> 01:35:02,852
Speaker 25: mourn a better you have a job giving it up.

2026
01:35:03,372 --> 01:35:06,253
Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's that motivation, isn't it that motivation that

2027
01:35:06,333 --> 01:35:09,133
Speaker 3: there's not really an option here that you do need

2028
01:35:09,253 --> 01:35:10,812
Speaker 3: to do this and you need to do this to

2029
01:35:10,853 --> 01:35:13,732
Speaker 3: bitter your future and also to maybe help out the

2030
01:35:13,772 --> 01:35:14,452
Speaker 3: family as well.

2031
01:35:15,412 --> 01:35:17,333
Speaker 25: They really are better in issue. And I mean I

2032
01:35:17,412 --> 01:35:19,452
Speaker 25: look at especially the older one who he was a

2033
01:35:19,532 --> 01:35:22,092
Speaker 25: bit of a struggling teenager, like you know, the school

2034
01:35:22,173 --> 01:35:24,013
Speaker 25: was ringing me when he was sixteen saying, oh, look

2035
01:35:24,053 --> 01:35:25,333
Speaker 25: he's not he doesn't want to come to going.

2036
01:35:25,652 --> 01:35:27,133
Speaker 24: I said, he's not stay home, So he.

2037
01:35:27,173 --> 01:35:29,492
Speaker 25: Got to find him something to do. And so that's

2038
01:35:29,532 --> 01:35:31,772
Speaker 25: really got them into this electrical course because we knew

2039
01:35:31,812 --> 01:35:34,213
Speaker 25: he liked that sort of thing, got into it. And

2040
01:35:34,333 --> 01:35:35,852
Speaker 25: then he was like, I've got to get a job now,

2041
01:35:35,933 --> 01:35:37,452
Speaker 25: and he said, oh, I know what I'll do. I'll

2042
01:35:37,532 --> 01:35:41,012
Speaker 25: go and do the show down at the local performing arts.

2043
01:35:41,213 --> 01:35:43,133
Speaker 25: And because the guy that does the electricals here he

2044
01:35:43,213 --> 01:35:45,492
Speaker 25: owns his electrical company and he got his first job.

2045
01:35:45,772 --> 01:35:47,932
Speaker 25: You know, they sort of they thought outside the square

2046
01:35:48,133 --> 01:35:50,013
Speaker 25: of how to do it, and that was you know,

2047
01:35:50,253 --> 01:35:52,293
Speaker 25: and the other one is the same. AI is the

2048
01:35:52,372 --> 01:35:54,972
Speaker 25: way of the future he's doing. Oh I don't even

2049
01:35:55,093 --> 01:35:57,412
Speaker 25: understand what he's doing, but he's got so many people

2050
01:35:57,612 --> 01:36:01,253
Speaker 25: behind him. And his last little meetup had forty people

2051
01:36:01,333 --> 01:36:03,333
Speaker 25: with it, so the first one had twelve. So he

2052
01:36:03,772 --> 01:36:05,972
Speaker 25: must be doing something right. Although I don't know where.

2053
01:36:07,333 --> 01:36:09,093
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're a great mom and you've raised

2054
01:36:09,093 --> 01:36:10,732
Speaker 3: some good boys and I think they're going to do

2055
01:36:10,893 --> 01:36:12,612
Speaker 3: very well in life. Pepa, thank you very much for

2056
01:36:12,692 --> 01:36:16,293
Speaker 3: giving me a call. Sanjay, how are you all right?

2057
01:36:16,812 --> 01:36:23,652
Speaker 9: This is Sanja here. I am sixty four and I've

2058
01:36:23,692 --> 01:36:26,253
Speaker 9: had a bit of experience about everything. There are two

2059
01:36:26,372 --> 01:36:33,452
Speaker 9: advisors which are required for the upcoming teenagers. One would

2060
01:36:33,532 --> 01:36:36,812
Speaker 9: be that the government should actually take the decision of

2061
01:36:36,973 --> 01:36:40,372
Speaker 9: making the retirement age as sixty and not sixty five.

2062
01:36:40,772 --> 01:36:43,932
Speaker 9: What will happen is it will drop the number of jobs.

2063
01:36:44,213 --> 01:36:48,652
Speaker 9: People who are jobless will get jobs. Second is people

2064
01:36:48,772 --> 01:36:51,612
Speaker 9: should actually grow a bit of guts in them. You

2065
01:36:51,692 --> 01:36:54,732
Speaker 9: know why I say that is at the age of

2066
01:36:54,853 --> 01:36:58,412
Speaker 9: fifty eight, I got cancer and I got made redundant.

2067
01:36:58,853 --> 01:36:58,973
Speaker 17: Right.

2068
01:36:59,893 --> 01:37:03,772
Speaker 2: It is some TV blows correct, So what.

2069
01:37:04,333 --> 01:37:07,333
Speaker 9: I mean I was I was absolutely sick on the

2070
01:37:07,492 --> 01:37:09,612
Speaker 9: on the dead bed. Took me about three years to recover,

2071
01:37:10,372 --> 01:37:15,012
Speaker 9: but that did not stop me from starting my own business.

2072
01:37:16,093 --> 01:37:18,653
Speaker 9: For the money that I got out of my retirement,

2073
01:37:19,732 --> 01:37:23,772
Speaker 9: I invested. Today I am running a two hundred thousand

2074
01:37:23,772 --> 01:37:28,412
Speaker 9: dollars company from my house and five years I had

2075
01:37:28,492 --> 01:37:31,612
Speaker 9: built it up. I created my own website. I do

2076
01:37:31,692 --> 01:37:36,092
Speaker 9: an online business. I do my own designing of my products.

2077
01:37:36,652 --> 01:37:38,893
Speaker 9: I get them made in China, I get them in

2078
01:37:39,652 --> 01:37:41,652
Speaker 9: and I sell them online.

2079
01:37:42,933 --> 01:37:43,852
Speaker 7: So there is a bit of.

2080
01:37:44,013 --> 01:37:46,612
Speaker 9: Guts which are actually required by people. And the only

2081
01:37:46,893 --> 01:37:49,452
Speaker 9: mission which I had in my mind is I will

2082
01:37:49,572 --> 01:37:51,572
Speaker 9: never ever sit on benefit.

2083
01:37:51,893 --> 01:37:54,893
Speaker 3: Never well got on you, son, Jay, But you know,

2084
01:37:55,053 --> 01:37:58,372
Speaker 3: talking about and congratulations on the business success, but it

2085
01:37:58,452 --> 01:38:01,333
Speaker 3: sounds like you had no option but to make it work,

2086
01:38:01,492 --> 01:38:05,692
Speaker 3: right that you had had some significant blows in your life.

2087
01:38:05,732 --> 01:38:08,172
Speaker 3: You'd lost a job and then you were diagnosed with cancer,

2088
01:38:09,133 --> 01:38:11,692
Speaker 3: and to bring it sort of full circle, I think

2089
01:38:11,812 --> 01:38:15,853
Speaker 3: that's that's an element to it, is when someone desperately

2090
01:38:15,973 --> 01:38:20,852
Speaker 3: needs to find work or find money, then there is

2091
01:38:20,973 --> 01:38:24,333
Speaker 3: no option of not making it work. You really have

2092
01:38:24,532 --> 01:38:27,772
Speaker 3: to do everything you can think of and hustle like

2093
01:38:27,853 --> 01:38:30,852
Speaker 3: you've never hustled before. And I'm not being disparaging to

2094
01:38:30,933 --> 01:38:32,772
Speaker 3: people out there who have found it really tough to

2095
01:38:33,173 --> 01:38:35,492
Speaker 3: find another job. I get that it is incredibly tough

2096
01:38:35,532 --> 01:38:37,732
Speaker 3: market at the moment. But you know, like yourself, you

2097
01:38:38,013 --> 01:38:40,213
Speaker 3: started that business. That's a risky move for a lot

2098
01:38:40,253 --> 01:38:42,333
Speaker 3: of people to do, to start a business and invest

2099
01:38:42,412 --> 01:38:44,253
Speaker 3: money into it, and you've got no choice but to

2100
01:38:44,293 --> 01:38:44,772
Speaker 3: make it work.

2101
01:38:45,812 --> 01:38:47,772
Speaker 9: And that to add the age of fifty nine, don

2102
01:38:48,213 --> 01:38:50,932
Speaker 9: vito actually get that. So I've got three employers who

2103
01:38:50,933 --> 01:38:53,372
Speaker 9: actually work for you, does I'm me and myself, just

2104
01:38:53,452 --> 01:38:53,973
Speaker 9: three of us.

2105
01:38:54,893 --> 01:38:57,732
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, Jay, thank you very much as a great story,

2106
01:38:57,893 --> 01:38:59,293
Speaker 3: and I wish I could chat more. But we've got

2107
01:38:59,333 --> 01:39:02,053
Speaker 3: the headlines hot on our tail. But not a bad point.

2108
01:39:02,133 --> 01:39:04,652
Speaker 3: I mean it is it's gutsy. I've never started a business,

2109
01:39:04,772 --> 01:39:08,532
Speaker 3: so it's incredibly gutsy and quite often I think that

2110
01:39:08,692 --> 01:39:11,452
Speaker 3: you do need some financial backing behind you, but many

2111
01:39:11,492 --> 01:39:14,372
Speaker 3: people don't. Like Sunjay, he took a punt and he

2112
01:39:14,492 --> 01:39:16,572
Speaker 3: figured I have to make this work no matter what,

2113
01:39:16,732 --> 01:39:18,293
Speaker 3: because I've got no other option.

2114
01:39:18,692 --> 01:39:20,972
Speaker 2: That was a really great discussion. Thank you very much.

2115
01:39:21,053 --> 01:39:23,892
Speaker 3: It was two and a half hours and it flew by,

2116
01:39:24,053 --> 01:39:27,213
Speaker 3: so really appreciate everyone who called and text on that one.

2117
01:39:27,732 --> 01:39:30,253
Speaker 3: But as the government is indicating, they hope this is

2118
01:39:30,333 --> 01:39:32,772
Speaker 3: the peak when it comes to the unemployment rate, and

2119
01:39:33,253 --> 01:39:35,333
Speaker 3: I suppose to use the old cliche. We'll just have

2120
01:39:35,412 --> 01:39:37,372
Speaker 3: to wait and see on that one. Coming up after

2121
01:39:37,452 --> 01:39:39,213
Speaker 3: the headlines. I do want to have a chat about

2122
01:39:39,253 --> 01:39:42,293
Speaker 3: crazy behavior you've seen on the motorway after quite a

2123
01:39:42,372 --> 01:39:44,932
Speaker 3: dramatic video you can see it on the Herald now

2124
01:39:45,253 --> 01:39:49,012
Speaker 3: A runaway stolen car on its rims down the motorway,

2125
01:39:49,293 --> 01:39:52,972
Speaker 3: scared it out of control, debris went flying. Luckily nobody

2126
01:39:53,093 --> 01:39:55,412
Speaker 3: was hurt. But what is the craziest thing you've seen

2127
01:39:55,452 --> 01:39:57,173
Speaker 3: on New Zealand motorways? O eight one hundred and eighty

2128
01:39:57,213 --> 01:39:59,652
Speaker 3: ten eighty is that number to call headlines? With Raylene

2129
01:39:59,692 --> 01:40:00,213
Speaker 3: coming up.

2130
01:40:03,213 --> 01:40:06,772
Speaker 12: US talks they'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis. It's

2131
01:40:06,893 --> 01:40:10,492
Speaker 12: no trouble with a blue bubble. Fresh evidence suggests vaping

2132
01:40:10,572 --> 01:40:14,612
Speaker 12: contributes to Mormadi and pacifica youth smoking, with rates of

2133
01:40:14,692 --> 01:40:18,452
Speaker 12: smoking by fourteen and fifteen year olds increasing since vaping

2134
01:40:18,532 --> 01:40:23,053
Speaker 12: emerged in twenty ten. Parliament's Registrar has ruled Huanganui and

2135
01:40:23,253 --> 01:40:27,013
Speaker 12: National MP Carl Bates didn't break the rules by not

2136
01:40:27,133 --> 01:40:31,452
Speaker 12: disclosing twenty five properties in a family trust. The Finance

2137
01:40:31,532 --> 01:40:35,732
Speaker 12: Minister says an economic rebuilds shaping up despite one hundred

2138
01:40:35,772 --> 01:40:39,213
Speaker 12: and sixty thousand people looking for work, with unemployment at

2139
01:40:39,213 --> 01:40:41,932
Speaker 12: an air nine year high on five point three percent

2140
01:40:42,053 --> 01:40:46,612
Speaker 12: for the September quarter. New rules now apply aimed at

2141
01:40:46,692 --> 01:40:51,092
Speaker 12: banning farm to forestry conversions on our most productive soils.

2142
01:40:52,173 --> 01:40:55,012
Speaker 12: One hundred and twenty traps will be laid by day's

2143
01:40:55,173 --> 01:40:59,213
Speaker 12: end to catch invasive yellow legged hornets on Auckland's north shore.

2144
01:40:59,652 --> 01:41:02,452
Speaker 12: Six have been found this year, two in winter, four

2145
01:41:02,572 --> 01:41:06,893
Speaker 12: in Glenfield and Birkdale. In recent weeks, and polls to

2146
01:41:07,013 --> 01:41:09,612
Speaker 12: elect a new mayor have closed in New York City

2147
01:41:10,013 --> 01:41:13,333
Speaker 12: with a strong youth turnout. Thirty four year old Democratic

2148
01:41:13,412 --> 01:41:18,173
Speaker 12: Socialist Zoran Mamdani remains the hot pick and the near

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Raylan. So let's get into this one.

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Speaker 3: It was well, it looked like something out of a

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01:41:32,372 --> 01:41:34,333
Speaker 3: low budget action fleck. Actually you can have a look

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01:41:34,333 --> 01:41:36,173
Speaker 3: at the video online on the New Zealand Erald.

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01:41:36,372 --> 01:41:37,012
Speaker 2: This was a driver.

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01:41:37,173 --> 01:41:39,452
Speaker 3: They were clearly in a stolen car and they were

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01:41:39,572 --> 01:41:43,852
Speaker 3: racing down Auckland's Northwestern Motorway on the rims of the

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01:41:44,013 --> 01:41:46,973
Speaker 3: front wheel. There were sparks flying, It was weaving all

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01:41:47,053 --> 01:41:49,572
Speaker 3: over the road. This was after police had set up

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Speaker 3: spike strips, so the chase ended after this car span out,

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01:41:54,772 --> 01:41:58,052
Speaker 3: sending debris flying, and it caused chaos for other drivers.

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01:41:58,093 --> 01:41:59,933
Speaker 3: It was another driver that kind of filmed what was

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01:42:00,053 --> 01:42:02,892
Speaker 3: going on, and again you can check out that footage

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01:42:02,933 --> 01:42:06,333
Speaker 3: on the Herald. Thankfully no one was seriously hurt, but

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Speaker 3: it is just the latest example of wild moments on

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Speaker 3: our road. They seem to pop up on a fairly

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01:42:11,772 --> 01:42:15,132
Speaker 3: regular basis these days. And clearly that was a criminal

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Speaker 3: that stole in the car and the police were hot

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Speaker 3: on their tail and then they laid down the spikes.

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Speaker 2: But still, if you see that video, and.

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01:42:22,093 --> 01:42:24,452
Speaker 3: If you were the driver video in this car on

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01:42:24,532 --> 01:42:27,052
Speaker 3: its rims, you would be looking at that window thinking

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01:42:27,133 --> 01:42:28,812
Speaker 3: what the heck is going on here?

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Speaker 2: So that's what I want to have a chat about.

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01:42:31,293 --> 01:42:34,452
Speaker 3: What is the craziest behavior that you have you seen

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01:42:34,612 --> 01:42:38,933
Speaker 3: on our motorways and on our roads, whether that is

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01:42:39,053 --> 01:42:42,132
Speaker 3: the car's going the wrong way, mattresses flying off trailers,

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01:42:42,253 --> 01:42:44,812
Speaker 3: random roads, raids, in incidents there's been a few of

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01:42:44,853 --> 01:42:47,973
Speaker 3: those heading the headlines recently. What was the most outrageous

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01:42:48,053 --> 01:42:50,253
Speaker 3: thing you've ever seen on the motorway? Oh, eight hundred

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01:42:50,293 --> 01:42:53,012
Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty. Now, I've rolled out this story

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01:42:53,093 --> 01:42:55,093
Speaker 3: quite a bit, but it just blew my mind that

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01:42:55,253 --> 01:42:58,652
Speaker 3: someone would do this. I was driving along the Southern

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01:42:58,692 --> 01:43:01,053
Speaker 3: Motorway in Auckland and happened to look to the side

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01:43:01,093 --> 01:43:03,572
Speaker 3: of me. We were going about sixty seventy k at

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01:43:03,612 --> 01:43:05,253
Speaker 3: the time because there was a bit of traffic about,

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01:43:06,013 --> 01:43:09,732
Speaker 3: and this fella had his phone propped and I swear,

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01:43:09,812 --> 01:43:11,973
Speaker 3: without a word of a lie, I could see that

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01:43:12,093 --> 01:43:13,933
Speaker 3: he was watching an episode of Friends while he was

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01:43:13,973 --> 01:43:15,812
Speaker 3: driving down the motorway. I just looked at that, and

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01:43:16,093 --> 01:43:19,093
Speaker 3: are you kidding me? Ah, you absolutely kidding me. It's

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01:43:19,133 --> 01:43:22,612
Speaker 3: bad enough when somebody's tixing, but watching a TV show,

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01:43:22,732 --> 01:43:25,452
Speaker 3: an old TV show for that matter, I thought that

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01:43:25,572 --> 01:43:27,372
Speaker 3: was pretty crazy. But there's not a day that goes

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01:43:27,452 --> 01:43:29,333
Speaker 3: by I think when I'm on the motorway that I

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01:43:29,412 --> 01:43:30,693
Speaker 3: don't somewhat.

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Speaker 2: Fear for my life.

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Speaker 3: So keen to hear your experience as oh, eight hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty, And it doesn't just have to

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01:43:36,093 --> 01:43:38,053
Speaker 3: be on the motorway, maybe on the roads as well.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of truckies that listen to this program,

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01:43:41,293 --> 01:43:43,093
Speaker 3: so truck is keen to hear from you as well.

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01:43:43,173 --> 01:43:46,492
Speaker 3: What's the craziest behavior you've seen on the open roads

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01:43:46,492 --> 01:43:48,412
Speaker 3: while you're going about doing your business?

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01:43:48,492 --> 01:43:50,572
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to

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01:43:50,652 --> 01:43:52,572
Speaker 2: call if you want to send a text comes through?

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01:43:52,612 --> 01:43:55,333
Speaker 2: There's already a few flooding in nine two ninety two.

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01:43:55,572 --> 01:43:58,213
Speaker 2: Is that number? And if you prefer to send an email,

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01:43:58,333 --> 01:43:59,333
Speaker 2: you're more than welcome.

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Speaker 4: To do that.

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01:43:59,532 --> 01:44:03,093
Speaker 3: Tyler at Newstalk ZB dot co dot NZ. Let's get

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01:44:03,133 --> 01:44:05,132
Speaker 3: into it. It is twenty one to four.

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Speaker 1: Mattie Taylor Adams taking your calls on Oh eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons

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01:44:13,893 --> 01:44:14,932
Speaker 1: News Talks evy.

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01:44:15,013 --> 01:44:16,173
Speaker 2: Very good afternoon, cheuse.

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Speaker 3: So I've asked the question, what's the craziest behavior you've

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01:44:18,652 --> 01:44:20,652
Speaker 3: seen on the motorways or the New Zealand roads. Oh

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01:44:20,692 --> 01:44:22,652
Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. It was after quite

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01:44:22,692 --> 01:44:25,372
Speaker 3: a dramatic video. You can watch it on the Herald

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01:44:25,572 --> 01:44:28,612
Speaker 3: right now, Stoling car gunning it down one of the

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01:44:28,692 --> 01:44:31,972
Speaker 3: Auckland motorways on Rims after it ran over some police

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01:44:32,133 --> 01:44:35,612
Speaker 3: spikes swerving all over the road, sparks flying, then spun

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01:44:35,692 --> 01:44:37,492
Speaker 3: out of control and debris went flying.

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01:44:37,532 --> 01:44:40,253
Speaker 2: It was full noise. It's worth checking out. But what

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01:44:40,532 --> 01:44:41,972
Speaker 2: is the crazy behavior you've seen?

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01:44:42,013 --> 01:44:44,692
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty couple of text here, Tyler,

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01:44:45,293 --> 01:44:47,372
Speaker 3: That guy must be a complete idiot who.

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Speaker 2: They would want to watch Friends spot on.

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01:44:49,973 --> 01:44:52,253
Speaker 3: I agree with your Texter, and this was when I

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01:44:52,372 --> 01:44:55,092
Speaker 3: was driving down the motorway about eight months ago. Looked

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01:44:55,173 --> 01:44:56,852
Speaker 3: to the side of me and saw a joker with

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01:44:56,973 --> 01:44:59,732
Speaker 3: his phone on his windscreen watching an episode of Friends

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01:44:59,772 --> 01:45:01,973
Speaker 3: while driving down the motorway. It's sixty kN hour. What

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01:45:02,093 --> 01:45:04,572
Speaker 3: a numbscale. And it's a terrible show as well for

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01:45:04,652 --> 01:45:08,772
Speaker 3: a lot of people. For others love it and that's fine. Yeah,

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01:45:08,812 --> 01:45:11,492
Speaker 3: the point is don't watch Friends while you're driving. Lindsey,

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01:45:11,532 --> 01:45:12,133
Speaker 3: how are you mate?

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01:45:13,133 --> 01:45:13,293
Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Good.

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01:45:13,652 --> 01:45:16,333
Speaker 17: I'm going to step aside a little bit from crazy behavior.

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01:45:16,572 --> 01:45:20,932
Speaker 17: But some fifteen years ago I was in the South

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01:45:21,013 --> 01:45:23,692
Speaker 17: Hold on a motorbike and I was cruising up a

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01:45:24,532 --> 01:45:28,933
Speaker 17: straight between the Conway and Cheviet. I think I was

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01:45:29,093 --> 01:45:31,772
Speaker 17: remembered as a tour more straight. Anyhow, I was there

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01:45:31,812 --> 01:45:34,612
Speaker 17: by myself, cruising along in the middle of the afternoon

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01:45:34,612 --> 01:45:37,532
Speaker 17: and heading for the theory. There was a car away

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01:45:37,692 --> 01:45:39,852
Speaker 17: behind me, and away in front there was a truck

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01:45:39,933 --> 01:45:43,173
Speaker 17: coming down big track. So I'm looking all over the place,

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Speaker 17: but there's a close So I started to take a

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01:45:45,173 --> 01:45:48,532
Speaker 17: bit more notice of it, and about fifty yards away,

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01:45:49,173 --> 01:45:51,452
Speaker 17: one of the whole wheels off the trailer came down

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01:45:51,492 --> 01:45:55,772
Speaker 17: the road and on a diagonal and I couldn't believe

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01:45:55,812 --> 01:45:57,892
Speaker 17: that I couldn't go to the left because it could

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01:45:57,933 --> 01:46:01,213
Speaker 17: have it could have caught me. So I rolled the

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Speaker 17: bike over there and headed for the white line, and

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01:46:05,013 --> 01:46:06,532
Speaker 17: then I stood it up when I got to the

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01:46:06,612 --> 01:46:09,772
Speaker 17: truck and bolted past. I don't know how close that

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01:46:09,893 --> 01:46:13,053
Speaker 17: wheel was, where it was two or three inches to

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01:46:13,732 --> 01:46:17,133
Speaker 17: each side of it was afoot, But I bet you

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01:46:17,253 --> 01:46:18,933
Speaker 17: had it down to this the sent of me.

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Speaker 2: That is terrifying, Lindsay.

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Speaker 3: And when you get put into that position, I mean

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01:46:22,572 --> 01:46:25,293
Speaker 3: what you feel like an if one driver having to

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01:46:25,973 --> 01:46:28,333
Speaker 3: you know, get the old reaction speeds up, the par

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01:46:28,492 --> 01:46:30,532
Speaker 3: and everything kind of slows down were you're trying to

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01:46:30,572 --> 01:46:31,892
Speaker 3: swerve and avoid this wheel.

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Speaker 17: No, there was no time for that, and all the

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01:46:35,093 --> 01:46:38,692
Speaker 17: way to pick them pretty much. I went A thousand

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01:46:38,732 --> 01:46:41,133
Speaker 17: and one, a thousand and two, it's all over, and

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01:46:41,253 --> 01:46:45,412
Speaker 17: then I did it again, two over, and and I

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01:46:45,492 --> 01:46:47,933
Speaker 17: looked back behind me. The truck was still going, the

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01:46:48,053 --> 01:46:51,452
Speaker 17: guy was still coming, and I kept going. But when

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01:46:51,532 --> 01:46:54,692
Speaker 17: that guy got he must have must have wondered what

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01:46:54,853 --> 01:46:57,293
Speaker 17: I learned on the bike was heading for him and

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01:46:57,412 --> 01:47:00,732
Speaker 17: then and then bolted down the side. But when he

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01:47:00,893 --> 01:47:03,892
Speaker 17: her home, he probably worked out at the tire was got.

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01:47:03,933 --> 01:47:06,012
Speaker 17: The wheel was gone one, just the tires, whole wheel.

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01:47:06,853 --> 01:47:08,293
Speaker 17: I was going to I was going to go that day.

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01:47:09,452 --> 01:47:11,333
Speaker 17: I was still yeah, all the way.

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01:47:11,492 --> 01:47:14,732
Speaker 2: Oh that is a great story. That is that is

2282
01:47:14,772 --> 01:47:18,133
Speaker 2: a doozy. That's some insanity from that particular driver. Thank

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01:47:18,173 --> 01:47:19,932
Speaker 2: you very much. Get a John.

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01:47:21,013 --> 01:47:27,293
Speaker 7: Anyway, nineteen sixty six, fifteen years old and made my

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01:47:27,372 --> 01:47:30,572
Speaker 7: own in Willington. We came town each evening to do cleaning.

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01:47:30,732 --> 01:47:34,532
Speaker 7: And we're heading home and the old so the motorway

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01:47:34,612 --> 01:47:37,172
Speaker 7: wasn't built in those days, was the motorway.

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01:47:37,253 --> 01:47:40,772
Speaker 6: So we were heading north. This car shop passed us

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01:47:40,812 --> 01:47:43,892
Speaker 6: that Nia Goods had went across the road side side

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01:47:43,893 --> 01:47:46,892
Speaker 6: of the van cheap and bounced straight back into the lane.

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01:47:47,492 --> 01:47:50,572
Speaker 6: Didn't stop hip going. We went for those that know

2292
01:47:50,772 --> 01:47:52,933
Speaker 6: the when the main trunk railway goes over as a

2293
01:47:53,093 --> 01:47:56,812
Speaker 6: huge pillar. She managed to miss that, but there was

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01:47:56,893 --> 01:47:59,412
Speaker 6: traffic coming the other way. She shot across the road.

2295
01:48:00,053 --> 01:48:01,732
Speaker 6: In the days of no seat belts. She had a

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01:48:01,853 --> 01:48:06,892
Speaker 6: kid standing in the front and she hit this WEE

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01:48:07,053 --> 01:48:11,492
Speaker 6: six driver. The driver two things happened. The kid went

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01:48:11,532 --> 01:48:13,812
Speaker 6: straight through the window like a locket. I still got

2299
01:48:13,933 --> 01:48:17,892
Speaker 6: visions in my head of that kid flying. Got pretty

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01:48:17,933 --> 01:48:21,572
Speaker 6: smashed up but survived. The lady got thrown out and

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01:48:21,692 --> 01:48:24,333
Speaker 6: he ended up to the under the front wheel of

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01:48:24,412 --> 01:48:27,253
Speaker 6: these six. All the guys that were working on the

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01:48:27,333 --> 01:48:30,093
Speaker 6: motorway at that time heard the crash, came running down

2304
01:48:31,013 --> 01:48:34,012
Speaker 6: and I give ups to their foreman. He just lined

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01:48:34,053 --> 01:48:36,532
Speaker 6: them all up around the car and said grab up,

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01:48:36,612 --> 01:48:39,852
Speaker 6: peace or lift. We lifted it, pulled it out, pulled

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01:48:39,893 --> 01:48:42,933
Speaker 6: it out. Police ambulance arrived. They took over and the

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01:48:42,973 --> 01:48:44,852
Speaker 6: guy said, well, let's try and look this car again,

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01:48:45,732 --> 01:48:49,893
Speaker 6: and we couldn't real it was. And you know this

2310
01:48:50,053 --> 01:48:51,692
Speaker 6: is in the days of no seat bets, mate, There

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01:48:51,692 --> 01:48:56,892
Speaker 6: were the amount of impact injuries from kids flying from

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01:48:56,933 --> 01:49:00,012
Speaker 6: back seats and the other driver had the old Stirling

2313
01:49:00,253 --> 01:49:00,812
Speaker 6: right in the chest.

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01:49:01,732 --> 01:49:04,093
Speaker 7: So scary times, the scary time.

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01:49:04,133 --> 01:49:06,133
Speaker 2: And how was the kid that obviously you know, going

2316
01:49:06,173 --> 01:49:06,932
Speaker 2: through a wing?

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01:49:08,532 --> 01:49:13,173
Speaker 6: They also hope the police got a hold of us

2318
01:49:13,213 --> 01:49:16,013
Speaker 6: where to go to the local police station to report it,

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01:49:16,173 --> 01:49:19,293
Speaker 6: and well to be our view of it, because we

2320
01:49:19,372 --> 01:49:20,972
Speaker 6: were we were trailing the car.

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01:49:22,133 --> 01:49:26,012
Speaker 3: But man, that was you don't forget that in a hurry, John,

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01:49:26,133 --> 01:49:28,652
Speaker 3: or ever as you say, you know, I can imagine

2323
01:49:28,652 --> 01:49:31,052
Speaker 3: that vision of that kid flying through the windscreen wouldn't

2324
01:49:31,053 --> 01:49:32,092
Speaker 3: be something you'd ever forget.

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01:49:33,173 --> 01:49:34,692
Speaker 6: They were saying, it's better to be late and be

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01:49:34,812 --> 01:49:35,893
Speaker 6: dead on her arm.

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01:49:35,692 --> 01:49:38,053
Speaker 2: Oh exactly, mate. So did they ever find out what

2328
01:49:38,173 --> 01:49:40,333
Speaker 2: happened to the woman? Did she So? Was it just

2329
01:49:40,412 --> 01:49:42,852
Speaker 2: a moment of carelessness that that she bounced off the

2330
01:49:42,973 --> 01:49:43,932
Speaker 2: van and then it all went wrong?

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01:49:45,053 --> 01:49:47,732
Speaker 6: No, apparently what the police said to us, and we

2332
01:49:47,812 --> 01:49:50,452
Speaker 6: were only teenagers, like they said, it was a medication

2333
01:49:50,612 --> 01:49:54,492
Speaker 6: issue that she had got out of killed her. Other

2334
01:49:54,572 --> 01:49:58,532
Speaker 6: things were involved. But you know, don't you don't need

2335
01:49:58,612 --> 01:50:03,012
Speaker 6: to tell children any more than they need to know. Yeah, yeah,

2336
01:50:03,213 --> 01:50:04,893
Speaker 6: and it was it was a long time ago. It

2337
01:50:05,013 --> 01:50:09,492
Speaker 6: was a different, different thing, but you know, cas John,

2338
01:50:09,612 --> 01:50:12,013
Speaker 6: any speed, mate, you can fall off at a park

2339
01:50:12,053 --> 01:50:12,492
Speaker 6: and break your.

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01:50:12,492 --> 01:50:13,812
Speaker 2: Lead Yep, exactly mate.

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01:50:13,853 --> 01:50:16,373
Speaker 3: And as you say, John, that was the time before seatbacks,

2342
01:50:16,412 --> 01:50:18,612
Speaker 3: but now no excuse, just put your seat belt on,

2343
01:50:18,692 --> 01:50:21,253
Speaker 3: and I think most of us do. But that's exactly why,

2344
01:50:21,772 --> 01:50:24,372
Speaker 3: because you know you have a child that goes through

2345
01:50:24,412 --> 01:50:26,852
Speaker 3: the windscreen and luckily that child was the right I mean,

2346
01:50:26,893 --> 01:50:29,253
Speaker 3: that is that is a crazy story, Thank you very much, John,

2347
01:50:29,293 --> 01:50:32,293
Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. What is the worst

2348
01:50:32,412 --> 01:50:35,173
Speaker 3: driving you've seen on the motorway or open road in

2349
01:50:35,293 --> 01:50:37,293
Speaker 3: your lifetime or recently as well?

2350
01:50:37,572 --> 01:50:39,933
Speaker 2: Can you get your views? Nine two nine two? Is

2351
01:50:40,053 --> 01:50:43,213
Speaker 2: that text? Number? This one?

2352
01:50:43,572 --> 01:50:45,772
Speaker 3: This text the here craziest thing I've seen on the

2353
01:50:45,853 --> 01:50:48,093
Speaker 3: highway are people doing sixty to seventy k?

2354
01:50:48,372 --> 01:50:48,532
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2355
01:50:48,692 --> 01:50:49,652
Speaker 2: Very good, very good?

2356
01:50:50,772 --> 01:50:53,692
Speaker 3: And this one from Sr's not very happy with me, Tyler,

2357
01:50:53,772 --> 01:50:55,572
Speaker 3: you were just as bad by laughing at the bad

2358
01:50:55,652 --> 01:50:56,333
Speaker 3: driving out there.

2359
01:50:56,612 --> 01:50:58,973
Speaker 2: You need to grow up. What else do you do

2360
01:50:59,093 --> 01:50:59,492
Speaker 2: but laugh?

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01:50:59,652 --> 01:50:59,692
Speaker 22: Is?

2362
01:51:00,133 --> 01:51:00,572
Speaker 2: I love you?

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Speaker 3: I see your text comes through quite a bad but

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01:51:03,333 --> 01:51:05,333
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's to the level of crazy that

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01:51:05,452 --> 01:51:06,932
Speaker 3: what else are you going to do except for laugh

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01:51:07,013 --> 01:51:07,532
Speaker 3: and just say the.

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01:51:07,492 --> 01:51:08,293
Speaker 2: World's a crazy place.

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01:51:08,452 --> 01:51:11,213
Speaker 3: Sometimes oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that

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01:51:11,372 --> 01:51:12,772
Speaker 3: number to call back very shortly?

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01:51:12,853 --> 01:51:13,772
Speaker 2: It is twelve to four.

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01:51:15,093 --> 01:51:18,452
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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01:51:18,812 --> 01:51:22,612
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used

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01:51:22,652 --> 01:51:22,933
Speaker 1: talk Z.

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01:51:22,973 --> 01:51:26,213
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon. You we're talking about crazy

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01:51:26,293 --> 01:51:29,173
Speaker 3: behavior you've seen on the road after quite a dramatic

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01:51:29,293 --> 01:51:31,772
Speaker 3: piece of footage that you can watch on the Herald

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01:51:31,973 --> 01:51:34,412
Speaker 3: right now, after a stolen car was on its rims

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01:51:34,452 --> 01:51:36,333
Speaker 3: and spun out of control on the highway.

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01:51:36,532 --> 01:51:37,973
Speaker 2: Get a moston how are you?

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01:51:38,973 --> 01:51:42,053
Speaker 24: Oh good the first time caller. But what happened to

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01:51:42,173 --> 01:51:45,053
Speaker 24: me in the dog this morning? We were walking I'm

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01:51:45,093 --> 01:51:48,852
Speaker 24: from christ Church and we were walking past they Peck

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01:51:48,933 --> 01:51:54,213
Speaker 24: and Saved supermarket. Suddenly I heard that this car came

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01:51:54,492 --> 01:51:58,932
Speaker 24: right up over the path through the Pack and Save

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01:52:00,933 --> 01:52:05,772
Speaker 24: shrubs and things, ended up in the car park of

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01:52:05,853 --> 01:52:09,692
Speaker 24: Peck and Save and it would still about six the

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01:52:10,692 --> 01:52:13,412
Speaker 24: caves and now, and just when we were only about

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01:52:13,532 --> 01:52:17,253
Speaker 24: three or four steps from being right in the middle

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01:52:17,253 --> 01:52:18,572
Speaker 24: of where the car came through.

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01:52:19,013 --> 01:52:22,412
Speaker 2: Wow, that is that is scary.

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01:52:23,372 --> 01:52:24,852
Speaker 7: Yeah, In anyway, I.

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01:52:25,173 --> 01:52:27,812
Speaker 24: Got in touch with Peck and Save and the menagement

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01:52:27,933 --> 01:52:30,052
Speaker 24: came out and it's all where the carrie took potus

2394
01:52:30,133 --> 01:52:33,052
Speaker 24: and things, and they were getting in touch with the please.

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01:52:33,452 --> 01:52:36,372
Speaker 24: But the lady got out the car and just said, oh,

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01:52:36,412 --> 01:52:41,532
Speaker 24: the car's okay. Oh, just the front wheel kep. He

2397
01:52:41,732 --> 01:52:43,973
Speaker 24: wants chipping back and she gave it a kick and

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01:52:44,093 --> 01:52:48,412
Speaker 24: jump and the car took off smartly. I think you

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01:52:48,492 --> 01:52:49,293
Speaker 24: could have killed that.

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01:52:50,532 --> 01:52:53,653
Speaker 3: And what did she say to that? She said they

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01:52:54,013 --> 01:52:58,172
Speaker 3: then took off, said she shouldn't have a license. Moston

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01:52:58,532 --> 01:53:01,333
Speaker 3: that is that is some pretty crazy behavior. Glad you're okay,

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01:53:01,572 --> 01:53:04,092
Speaker 3: and the dog as well. I've got to say, Marianne,

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01:53:04,093 --> 01:53:04,412
Speaker 3: how are you?

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01:53:05,532 --> 01:53:05,692
Speaker 16: Hey?

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01:53:05,812 --> 01:53:05,972
Speaker 24: Good?

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01:53:06,053 --> 01:53:08,652
Speaker 22: Thanks? Hey, Look this was also a little while ago,

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01:53:08,893 --> 01:53:11,492
Speaker 22: but still got PTSD when I think about it.

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01:53:12,492 --> 01:53:12,852
Speaker 16: Family.

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01:53:12,933 --> 01:53:17,733
Speaker 22: We were traveling from you know, the road from Matatar

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01:53:17,853 --> 01:53:20,293
Speaker 22: and you go past Zesprey going into cheap Hooky.

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01:53:20,492 --> 01:53:23,132
Speaker 2: I've never driven a band, but I hear it's beautiful.

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01:53:24,093 --> 01:53:26,412
Speaker 22: Yeah, it is beautiful, but it's one lane. You know,

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01:53:26,492 --> 01:53:28,692
Speaker 22: it's one lane each way. It's not a big road,

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01:53:28,772 --> 01:53:32,293
Speaker 22: or it certainly wasn't there. Anyway, we come up behind

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01:53:32,372 --> 01:53:35,772
Speaker 22: this car with a trailer on it and hanging on

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01:53:35,933 --> 01:53:39,333
Speaker 22: to the back of the trailer and his little bloody

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01:53:39,612 --> 01:53:43,452
Speaker 22: you know, red top gum boots would have been a

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01:53:43,492 --> 01:53:46,492
Speaker 22: preschool Is this little kid hanging on to the back

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01:53:46,532 --> 01:53:49,772
Speaker 22: of this trailer when the car is going like seventy k's.

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01:53:50,572 --> 01:53:54,532
Speaker 22: It was unbelievable. I mean, maybe you've been helping the adults,

2422
01:53:54,572 --> 01:53:57,852
Speaker 22: you know, mucking around, and you'd jumped onto the trailer,

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01:53:58,492 --> 01:54:01,173
Speaker 22: but like there was no safety net or anything like that.

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01:54:01,333 --> 01:54:04,213
Speaker 22: So we came up behind and then you know, we

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01:54:04,333 --> 01:54:06,293
Speaker 22: don't want to get too close in case the kids

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01:54:06,333 --> 01:54:09,053
Speaker 22: fell off. Yeah, and then we you know, ran over them.

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01:54:09,173 --> 01:54:12,692
Speaker 22: So we honked and flashed and toutored and and we

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01:54:12,732 --> 01:54:15,012
Speaker 22: didn't want to pass these guys because of the road.

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01:54:15,093 --> 01:54:18,333
Speaker 22: It's not it's not a wide road, because sometimes people

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01:54:18,492 --> 01:54:20,532
Speaker 22: speed up when you go to pass them, and we

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01:54:20,612 --> 01:54:24,173
Speaker 22: didn't know if that was going to happen. Anyway, this

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01:54:24,372 --> 01:54:26,772
Speaker 22: went on for like several minutes and we were.

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01:54:26,732 --> 01:54:27,893
Speaker 4: Absolutely bricking it.

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01:54:28,013 --> 01:54:30,852
Speaker 22: But for some reason, I don't know why, Maybe they

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01:54:30,973 --> 01:54:34,852
Speaker 22: realized what the honking and the you know, they pulled over.

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01:54:35,533 --> 01:54:39,213
Speaker 22: So the kid, you know, the kid made it. But

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01:54:39,293 --> 01:54:42,893
Speaker 22: I suppose the lesson here is like around trailers and

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01:54:43,013 --> 01:54:47,132
Speaker 22: little kids, and you know, I'm sure they were good parents,

2439
01:54:47,213 --> 01:54:50,373
Speaker 22: but the little kid just got on that trailer and.

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01:54:51,893 --> 01:54:53,493
Speaker 5: It could have ended very badly.

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01:54:53,653 --> 01:54:54,373
Speaker 2: Well, it's seventy k.

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01:54:54,693 --> 01:54:56,573
Speaker 3: I mean, you know there were times that I was

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01:54:56,653 --> 01:54:59,213
Speaker 3: in the back of the trailer on my parents orchard,

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01:54:59,333 --> 01:55:00,812
Speaker 3: but that that wasn't at seventy k.

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01:55:00,933 --> 01:55:02,972
Speaker 2: You're right. You put the kids in the trailer, tied

2446
01:55:03,013 --> 01:55:05,613
Speaker 2: them down, at least for goodness sake, Brenda, how are

2447
01:55:05,653 --> 01:55:07,053
Speaker 2: you hi?

2448
01:55:08,973 --> 01:55:11,533
Speaker 4: I used to paint roads right.

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01:55:13,013 --> 01:55:17,093
Speaker 16: And we were doing relaying the lane markings at the

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01:55:17,213 --> 01:55:21,973
Speaker 16: corner of we were a row of Victoria av and

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01:55:22,093 --> 01:55:26,733
Speaker 16: the inside lane was completely blocked off with cones, literally walls,

2452
01:55:26,772 --> 01:55:30,173
Speaker 16: the wall all up the side of the lane, all

2453
01:55:30,333 --> 01:55:33,812
Speaker 16: up the side by the pedestrian by the footpath. The

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01:55:33,973 --> 01:55:37,972
Speaker 16: pedestrians couldn't get there. And I just put the super

2455
01:55:38,293 --> 01:55:46,533
Speaker 16: super effective paint stripper on the two arrows and so

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01:55:46,733 --> 01:55:49,852
Speaker 16: there was a quite a line of cars because it

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01:55:49,973 --> 01:55:53,093
Speaker 16: was down to one lane. Yep, this guy came up

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01:55:53,173 --> 01:55:57,093
Speaker 16: the inside, got out of his car, moved about ten

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01:55:57,293 --> 01:56:03,012
Speaker 16: cones and drove over the paint stripper on the two arrows.

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01:56:03,133 --> 01:56:06,693
Speaker 2: What a decade, What a dickad well, Its lovely.

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01:56:07,093 --> 01:56:09,932
Speaker 16: I could just watch it look up on the lower

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01:56:10,013 --> 01:56:11,013
Speaker 16: panels of this car.

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01:56:11,293 --> 01:56:11,972
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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01:56:12,053 --> 01:56:14,173
Speaker 3: The only person that he stitched up well, apart from

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01:56:14,213 --> 01:56:16,932
Speaker 3: your beautiful paint job, was his own car. So good routins,

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01:56:16,933 --> 01:56:20,173
Speaker 3: I say, Brenda, but a great story. Thank you very much.

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01:56:20,533 --> 01:56:22,852
Speaker 3: There is all the time we have for today.

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01:56:23,093 --> 01:56:23,213
Speaker 4: Now.

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01:56:23,253 --> 01:56:26,052
Speaker 3: Can I just give another shout out to these guys

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01:56:26,173 --> 01:56:29,733
Speaker 3: down at the Alternative Commentary Collective as part of November,

2471
01:56:30,213 --> 01:56:33,173
Speaker 3: they are going non stop until they get a hole

2472
01:56:33,253 --> 01:56:35,493
Speaker 3: in one on a golf simulator they've got downstairs and

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01:56:35,533 --> 01:56:36,772
Speaker 3: I'm just watching the live feet.

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01:56:36,893 --> 01:56:39,613
Speaker 2: They've been going strong for thirty hours. Can you believe it?

2475
01:56:39,693 --> 01:56:41,293
Speaker 2: There's still no hole in one. So they're going to

2476
01:56:41,373 --> 01:56:41,772
Speaker 2: keep going.

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01:56:42,053 --> 01:56:45,613
Speaker 3: But they absolutely need some motivation and some support, so

2478
01:56:45,772 --> 01:56:48,852
Speaker 3: please go and check it out. Just google the Alternative

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01:56:48,893 --> 01:56:52,213
Speaker 3: Commentary Collective, go on the website and you can donate,

2480
01:56:52,293 --> 01:56:53,932
Speaker 3: and please give them a few bucks because.

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01:56:53,693 --> 01:56:55,573
Speaker 2: They need it right now. Thank you for today, But

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01:56:55,653 --> 01:56:57,933
Speaker 2: if fireworks to go out November the first, see you

2483
01:56:57,973 --> 01:56:58,333
Speaker 2: tomorrow

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01:57:01,293 --> 01:57:04,173
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