1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, local and 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: global exposure like. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 2: No other journalist. Mark Sainsbury's with us tonight. Hey sains O, 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: how's it going? 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 3: Good? Thing? 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 4: Loads say a fantastic program? 7 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: You like it? 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 4: I love it? Yeah it is. 9 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: It's sideways, Stuart Nation, formal Labor MPs so us. 10 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 3: Hey Stuart Ryan, how are you making good? 11 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: Thanks? Have you watched The White Lotus? 12 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: I have? Of course I love it. 13 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: It's basically, if you explain it to people, it's like 14 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: a TV show that mocks rich people who go to resorts. 15 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: That's basically. 16 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: Maybe that's why we love it. Yeah. 17 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk about the four year term, Stuart? What 18 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 2: do you reckon? Good idea? 19 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Absolutely no brain. In fact, I wouldn't take it to referendum. 20 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 3: You know, people elect their MPs and department to make decisions. 21 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: I don't think there's an MP I've ever spoken to 22 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: who doesn't want a four year term, even the general public. 23 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: The second tide of elections every three years. Let the 24 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: MP's vote on it. You've got to have a super 25 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: majority in order to get this constitution change through. So 26 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 3: basically labor and nationally have to support it. I reckon, 27 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: if you put it to MP's and they'd vote for 28 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: it without it going to referendum, make it happen. 29 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'd want a reference. Well, Winston would 30 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 2: insist on a referendum, of course, Mark, what do you think? 31 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I totally your Graham. And it's the problem 32 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 4: is the term. It's far too short. People give them 33 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 4: the power, they take a while to get used to it, 34 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 4: they start operating things, and then next thing the campaigning 35 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 4: for the next election. I think a four year term 36 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 4: is much more sensible, and I do also agree that 37 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: there should be more power than the select committees to 38 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: volve some of the surround as well. So yeah, look, 39 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 4: I I'm not that bothered if they want to have 40 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: the referendum, but in the PASSI Stewart, they've all hung 41 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: off in the path now. I think the last time 42 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 4: we had a referendum on this was back in the 43 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: late sixties. I think it was. 44 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,639 Speaker 2: For ninety I think we had one. 45 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: I'd have another one there, Yeah, that'd be right. 46 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. I wasn't born in the sixties, Mark, but the 47 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: times have changed and I don't think that David Seymour 48 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 3: suggestion is sensible. Why would you hand over power to 49 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: the opposition when you're in government. Look, things work pretty 50 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 3: well in select committies as they are. My experience, I've 51 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: been a lot of selectivities is INPs actually work really 52 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: closely together. The public don't see that, Selick. Minies work well. 53 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 3: Don't hand over power to the opposition on select committees. 54 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: Just suck it up when you're in opposition being an 55 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 3: opposition when you're in government, government and make stuff happen. 56 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: It's the problem with this government. 57 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 2: Do you know. Do you know why he's done that? Though? 58 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 3: Get there. 59 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 2: The reason, No, The reason he's done it is because 60 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: of when you guys were in power and the extreme 61 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: power that you guys had, and obviously it was a pandemic, 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: but the extreme power that you guys had and the 63 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 2: feeling which clearly the public have now come to appreciate 64 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: that you had too much power and there wasn't enough 65 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: say from other groups. He's just saying, if we're going 66 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: to go for four years, we need to balance it 67 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: out a bit. 68 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: Oh that's rubbish. Look, the bottom line is, mate, is 69 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: that the National Party will goal government, will control all 70 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: select committees. At the moment, John Key's government controlled all 71 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 3: slect committees. It's one of the privileges of being in 72 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: government you get controlled of the select committees. But as mentioned, 73 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: what most people don't realize is MP's of all hues 74 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 3: and colors actually get on really well to ensure that 75 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: legislation and bills placed in front of them. Our work through. 76 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 3: They work really well with officials is very, very really 77 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 3: caation there is, but very really politics and selecting. They 78 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: just leave it as it. There's except change the term 79 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: for four years. 80 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: Just go on with it, all right, We're going to 81 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: get on with this. Spray Mark Sainsbury's Stuart Nash on 82 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: the Huddle. 83 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate the 84 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: marketing of your home. 85 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Twelve minutes away from six For those who are still 86 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 2: interested in the pregnant woman who gave birth on the 87 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: plane into New Plymouth today on a near New Zealand 88 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: flight that had caused the cancelation of the next one. Anyway, 89 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: someone has just got in touch as a midwife, she says. 90 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 2: You can basically fly up to four hours in flight 91 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: length to the end of the fortieth week. This is 92 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: according to the New Zealand College of Midwives. So there 93 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: you go, Mark Sainsbury and Stuart Nash on the h tonight. 94 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: Welcome back guys. Now let's talk about restaurant Well, we 95 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: could do restaurant brands, but I'll come to them in 96 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: a second. Actually we could also talk about the restaurant 97 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: at school. Well would you call it restaurant quality? This 98 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: is David Seymour in his school lunches, and Carmel Sippaloni 99 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: today has come out and said, which I think is 100 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: a little extreme, Mark, that David Seymour needs to resign 101 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: as a minister for watching the school lunch program. What 102 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: do you reckon? 103 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I hope springs a channel, of course, I mean, hey, 104 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: and of course he's going to say that. 105 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 3: I mean. 106 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: The thing with it is this was such identified as 107 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: his issue. He's the one who pushed it through. He's 108 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: the one who did all the front footing on it. 109 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: So he's got to wear the flat when it doesn't 110 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: go right. But you know there's not going to be 111 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: a resignation. 112 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: No, Stuart. Do you think if a kid's hungry they'll 113 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: eat what's in front of them? 114 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 3: No? I don't actually, but I agree with Mike on this. 115 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: You know, he shouldn't resign, but he has to take 116 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: the flag. I mean, the meals that I've seen don't 117 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 3: look particularly palatable. But I'll be honest with you, mate, 118 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: that this sort of comes to represent what it extends for, 119 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: and it's a mediocrity. This, as Mark said, this was 120 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: a really big platform for them. And I'm a big 121 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: fan of lunches and schools, and I saw the stuff 122 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: under the other under the previous program. It was pretty nutritious, 123 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 3: it was pretty nice. It was good stuff. What I 124 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: see now just up to these kids. I mean, you know, 125 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 3: you have to be pretty bloody hungry to eat it, 126 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: But it isn't. 127 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: That the points to it. You're meant to be pretty 128 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: bloody hungry to get it because it's free. 129 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 3: No, I don't buy into that whatsoever. Just because it's free, 130 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: it doesn't mean you feed up shit. If it's free, 131 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: you've got to make. 132 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: Sure it's not. We're all Ryan, let's keep it real. 133 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: What did you have when you went to school? I 134 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: had lunch and sausage and sam and it was the 135 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: same every day. But these kids are complaining, they're getting 136 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: pitt pit eight days in a row, I would have 137 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: been absolutely delighted. 138 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the pitter pit that you go down 139 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: and buy after a game of whatever you play. And 140 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: this is a This is stuff that doesn't look that 141 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 3: pal to be honest. But you know, I get what 142 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: you're saying. But if you're going to do this, if 143 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 3: you're going to provide kids with lunch, make sure it's nutritious, 144 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: make sure it looks good, make sure it's palatable, and 145 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 3: cut out the waste. But as mentioned, this is this 146 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: is kind of where molling at the moment, which is 147 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: which is mediocrity, which is not good. They know what's 148 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: a big game but doesn't really deliver. 149 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: Well, Well, what's happened here is that we've got the 150 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: program has morphed from what we mark. Originally we were 151 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: told there were kids so starving they couldn't learn. Now 152 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: we're hearing that there are kids who will throw the 153 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: lunch out because they don't want it. I mean, what 154 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: which which is that. 155 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 4: It doesn't necessarily have to be one or the other. 156 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 4: I mean, I agree with Stuart, if you're going to 157 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 4: provide a lunch, it should be nutritious. I mean, just 158 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: because they're getting it for free. Doesn't mean you can 159 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: give them crap. You know, it's afraid to pay for 160 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 4: your own food. So you just take what take what 161 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 4: you get. You know, they promised. The promise was these 162 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 4: would be nutritious, they would be they would be appetizing, 163 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: they would meet all the various needs. And it's simply 164 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 4: not working. 165 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm not willing to say, gent in, 166 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 2: mine with you two. 167 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: Images the rest of the week, Ryan. 168 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 3: They were good. 169 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: They were good at case to about you. 170 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 3: For the rest of the week. You know, for for 171 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: a month, you eat these lunches and come back and 172 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: tell us if you think they're good and nutritious and impalatable. 173 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm eating high protein diet at the moment, Stuart. 174 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 2: I've told you that, I'm sure. 175 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: And you look bloody good for it. But you're a 176 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: lot better than these kids are. 177 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk about restaurant brands. So a sixty two 178 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: percent increase a strong result. This is the owner of KFC, 179 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: Taco Bell, et cetera. And fast food sales have been 180 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: on the rise, and this tends to happen when there's 181 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: a recession on because it's cheap of food, right, So 182 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: is that a good thing. I mean, obviously we should 183 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: be happy that a company is doing well, but what 184 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: does it say about the rest of us? 185 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: Mark? 186 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, look at I did you know the first thing 187 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: I thought when I saw this today was some KFC 188 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 4: sponsoring the or Blacks. You know, you watch the if 189 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 4: you if you watch any of the Live rugby and 190 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 4: especially with the you know, the Super rug Super Rugby, 191 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 4: You've got the you've got, you've got all the KFC. 192 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 4: It's all around it, you know. And I mean, look, 193 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 4: I indulge in k juicy if you've had a h 194 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 4: longous night the night before. So it's not that bit 195 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 4: rare of these days. But you know, I mean that's 196 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: let's be honest about it. Deep fried chicken. 197 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: It's good. It's good. 198 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 3: Do you reckon this chicken in there? How tell? The 199 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: really funny thing, right, is when you interviewed that when 200 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: you interviewed that guy Mike Igan, who's president of the 201 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: Resident Right Association, and you said, you asked them, is 202 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 3: the price of food going up and down? And he said, 203 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: the price of raw materials doesn't matter. I thought, that's it, mate, 204 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 3: It's not the price of food, it's the price of 205 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: raw materials. You know, we've got it. We've got an 206 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: obesity in this country. We've got a diabetics problem. We've 207 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: got a whole lot of unhealthy people running around and 208 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 3: part of the reason for that is they're eating KFC. 209 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: I mean there's stuff, you know, we talked about shep 210 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 3: food and schools. This stuff is terrible, it really is. 211 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 3: Let's be honest about that. We shouldn't be celebrating the 212 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: fact that we're eating more KFC. 213 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 4: And you guys, when you're in power, ste why didn't 214 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: you be in the fuzzy drinks because these and know 215 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: that they're going to get onto the whold o B 216 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 4: for the utub Allen Allen's of sugary drink. 217 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 3: All I want to ask r I want to ask 218 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: Ryan because Ryan's a good looking bloke. We're going to 219 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: goalth When was the last time you had KFC? 220 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: Right, honestly about three weeks ago and I had and 221 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 2: I had about five and we're going to go I've 222 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: been told off Saint so and Stuart Nash on the 223 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: huddleback in a second. 224 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to 225 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 226 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio