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Speaker 1: Now, let me tell you what Chris Hipkins is busy

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Speaker 1: doing to the COVID Inquiry. As if this isn't obvious, right,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you when he says that the COVID

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Speaker 1: Inquiry is providing a platform for those who have conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theorist views, he is trying to undermine it. And he's

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Speaker 1: doing that so it doesn't matter what the outcome of

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Speaker 1: the inquiry is. People have already written it off as

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Speaker 1: a nutjob investigation because I suspect Chippy already knows that

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Speaker 1: he's not going to come out of this flash. Neither

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Speaker 1: is Jacinda, Neither is Ashley, neither is Grant, because we

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Speaker 1: already know what went wrong. We can see that the

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Speaker 1: lockdowns went too long. We know that the border was

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Speaker 1: done badly. We know how much money was printed. To

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Speaker 1: name just a couple of things, just a few things

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Speaker 1: that they did wrong. It's kind of rich of Chris

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Speaker 1: Hipkins to complain that the terms of reference have been

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Speaker 1: deliberately constructed to achieve a certain outcome, because that's coming

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Speaker 1: from the guy whose government did exactly the same with

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Speaker 1: the original COVID inquiry. They set up such a limited

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Speaker 1: set of terms of references that we had to set

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Speaker 1: up a second inquiry after they lost the election, just

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Speaker 1: to get to the stuff that we actually care about,

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Speaker 1: which is the mandates in the Auckland lockdown and so on.

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Speaker 1: They set up an inquiry deliberately designed their words to

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Speaker 1: only learn lessons, not assign blame when actually blame or

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Speaker 1: you can call it just taking responsibility is exactly what

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Speaker 1: a lot of us affected by all of the stuff

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Speaker 1: would like to see. But what really bothers me about

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Speaker 1: what Chris Hippins is doing is the continual demonizing of

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorists. Now, look, I don't love a conspiracy theorists.

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Speaker 1: They're a bit nutty. I've had to sit through, you know,

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Speaker 1: lectures about the world order ours on end, trying to

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Speaker 1: be polite and pretending that you care because you love

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Speaker 1: the person. Right, A lot of these people went down

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Speaker 1: the rabbit hole because labor forced the jab on them,

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Speaker 1: so they went not to do their own research, and

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Speaker 1: they came bick a bit strange. They shouldn't be excluded.

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Speaker 1: They may be conspiracy theorists, but they're still our friends

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Speaker 1: and our brothers and our uncles, even if they're a

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Speaker 1: bit slightly different. At the moment, right, they were as

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Speaker 1: affected also, conspiracy theorists or not, they were as affected

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Speaker 1: by these decisions as everyone else. Therefore they get to

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Speaker 1: say to and whatever, by the way, happened to they

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Speaker 1: are us or does that only apply when it suits labor.

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