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Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture Vans and a play at store.

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Speaker 2: News Talks, it'd be good, A good morning. It's six

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Speaker 2: after five year on News Talks, it'd be I can

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Speaker 2: confirm today's Black Friday for anyone who's wanting a sale

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Speaker 2: all week. Lady Deborah Chambers, you'll remember the opinion piece

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Speaker 2: the COVID inquiry. Just before six this morning, we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk to the Greater Wellington Regional Council and before

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Speaker 2: you go, it's about a potential seventy percent increase in

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Speaker 2: public transport prices. Are ay fairmongering. Vincent McAvennie is in

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Speaker 2: the UK and Putin is gearing up for a bigger,

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Speaker 2: more expanded or on Ukraine will have details the agenda.

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Speaker 2: It is right at the twenty ninth of November. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the program. It's past. Australia's the first country to

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Speaker 2: ban under sixteen year olds from sosh Med that comes

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Speaker 3: We know there is wide press spread concern and evidence

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Speaker 3: We've seen very disturbing global trends and youth mental health

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Speaker 2: Do you know how I know this is not going

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Speaker 2: to work? Social media companies face fines of up to

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Speaker 2: Russian drone and missile strikes have hit twelve targets according

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Speaker 2: Winston Peters has put out of release over the Night'll

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Speaker 2: UK can't count. They told us they had net migration

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture

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Speaker 2: They'd be nine after five news talks. They'd be great

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds and

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Speaker 2: Fourteen a half to five on news Talk said, be

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Speaker 2: interesting the posturing that's going on over Donald Trump before

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Speaker 2: to New Zealand now, public transport prices could be on

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Speaker 2: good morning. Really has he written back? Is he going

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Speaker 7: But we've talked and look, I think we both agreed

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Speaker 2: Are you serious when you say, on average, if you're

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Speaker 7: We're only using in New Zealand Transport authorities figures to

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Speaker 2: And that would need to happen next year.

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Speaker 2: So you don't want to hike fir. Yeah, you want

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Speaker 7: Historically we have been able to recover more from the

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Speaker 7: But the reality is that public transport is growing quite significantly.

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Speaker 2: this week it's Black Friday. What's the best deal?

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Speaker 1: Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store.

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Speaker 2: Twenty two after five. Chris Wilkinson, First Retail Group managing

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Speaker 2: directions with us because why it's Black Friday to day

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Speaker 2: and people will be going out and getting some sales. Chris,

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Cura right, Well, what's the best deal you've

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Speaker 8: Look, that's those perennial deals. It's the like of the

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Speaker 8: We've got some pretty good deals going on Might to ten. Know,

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Speaker 8: they've been doing some pretty big drops across the wall.

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Speaker 8: There's some good pricing out there this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw an umbrella yesterday for about seventy percent off,

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Speaker 2: Talks the b twenty five minutes after five. This COVID

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Speaker 2: eight hundred thousand dollars at Otaga University, all is doing victory,

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Speaker 1: with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture Beds at a playing store.

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Speaker 2: Scopy, Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to your Friday, twenty

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Speaker 2: four minutes away from six This legend and I can

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Speaker 2: remember Mum putting his cassette tape on in the car.

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Speaker 2: This absolute legend of rock and roll is going to

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Speaker 2: be headlined in Glastonbury. You might have heard about that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: the Legends stage.

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Speaker 5: The time.

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Speaker 2: Spread to legs and that.

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Speaker 10: So he's eighty years old. God he's good, isn't he?

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Speaker 10: And he still looks good too. He's got a full

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Speaker 2: He said. It's going to cost him a fortune to

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Speaker 2: you go, get your tickets. I don't know when they

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Speaker 2: go on sale. Actually, but Glastonbury Rod Stewart got to

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Speaker 1: Secret is that?

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Speaker 1: That's Bryan Bridge right.

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Speaker 2: We're going to our reporters around the country twenty two

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Speaker 2: minutes away from six o'clock. Don't forget labor debris later

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Speaker 2: Deborah lady, goodness me, Lady Deborah Chambers with us, who

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Speaker 2: reaction to the COVID report full six plus we're lied

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Speaker 2: to the UK with Vincent Macavenie. Right now, Callum Proctor

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Speaker 2: is Indneedin Cullum. A huge funding boost for Otago Uni

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Speaker 2: health research Yeah, right on.

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Speaker 11: Sixteen researchers here out of Ottaga University have received in

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Speaker 11: poorly understood. The Deputy Vice Chancellor, Richard Blakey says this

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Speaker 2: His name right now. How's there weather, Collen?

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Speaker 11: A morning cloud then find for us today southwesterlies and seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you and Claire is in christ It's clear the

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Speaker 12: Yes, it is a milestone Christmas in the Park here

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Speaker 12: tomorrow at Hagley Ryan it will be thirty years since

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Speaker 12: Christmas in the Park started. We've got local performance who

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Speaker 12: will shine at the free celebration Hip Hop Royalty. Apparently

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Speaker 2: O nice one, Claire, how's your weather today?

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Speaker 12: Clardie with a few spots of early rain, then fine

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Speaker 12: breaks for a time This afternoon southerly's easing and a

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Speaker 2: Brilliant maxism well max. The on boodsman is investigating Kiwi Rail.

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Speaker 7: What for?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, this is over KiwiRail refusing to disclose the cost

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Speaker 13: of its advice from global consultancy firm McKinsey and Company.

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Speaker 13: Business Finance Minister Nicola Willis has a better idea of

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Speaker 13: Willis and The Herald have made efforts to publicly release

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Speaker 13: contract with McKinsey. So we've got the ombudsman involved. No comment,

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Speaker 13: No further comment by Kiwi Rail. Victoria University law professor

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Speaker 13: interest in knowing the public money spent by a state

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Speaker 13: owned enterprise on consultants, especially when the Minister is concerned

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Speaker 2: All right, how's your with a mix?

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Speaker 13: Mostly cloudy so Easterly's a high of sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Brilliant? Thank you? Were you ever at Rod Stewart Finn

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Speaker 2: You struck me as someone who would be I fit

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Speaker 2: the bill.

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Speaker 13: I can't say I am, and I think I'm going

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Speaker 13: to disappoint you with that answer.

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Speaker 2: It's your choice. It's a free world. You can do

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Speaker 2: what you like. DoD, did you go to maw and

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Speaker 2: Nui or what was it called Miao Knwei? Was that

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Speaker 2: last night?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: No, I haven't been.

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Speaker 13: I've been to miaw a few times, the original bar,

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Speaker 13: but this new venue looks pretty d good does Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I saw the pictures. Looks great.

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Speaker 13: As I inserted into my script yesterday. Going to some

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Speaker 13: of those bars like san fran and Meow sorry mew,

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Speaker 13: it gets a bit claustrophobic and sweaty, too many people around.

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Speaker 13: I like a bit of space. Meo knew he seems

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Speaker 13: to have that, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, good to know. Let's go to Neva. Hey, Neva.

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Speaker 14: That does not surprise me that you know mix doesn't

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Speaker 14: like sweetie go and going into bars with heaps of

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Speaker 10: Don't you reckon?

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Speaker 2: might be a bit of a rager. Oh, I don't know. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: he'll be somewhere like on his own with headphones on,

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Speaker 2: what's going on with the theories?

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Speaker 2: It's theories that you go on the sea, not theories

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Speaker 14: Get that's Friday, isn't it fun? And you're absolutely quite right.

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Speaker 14: So this is good news for Auckland because the Auckland

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Speaker 14: Theories in now back to full schedule, just in time

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Speaker 14: for summer. So the Auckland Transport Services, now you'll remember

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Speaker 14: three sixty. They've been able to quickly get in their

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Speaker 14: upskill the existing crew, train new people and because of

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Speaker 14: all of this, the Fairy timetable is now up and running.

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Speaker 14: They reckon. This is five months ahead of schedule. But

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Speaker 14: you know it's always a problem around summer, do you remember,

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Speaker 14: you know, there's always cues going.

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Speaker 5: To why he cared?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, long weekend, so they've already got to get on

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Speaker 14: top of that.

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Speaker 2: But they've had a schedule. Did you never hear those words? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: congratulations to whoever did that. A weather today.

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Speaker 14: It's going to be really really lovely actually chance of

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Speaker 14: a light morning shower, but we've got afternoon sunny's spells,

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Speaker 14: you know, just getting really really warm. Twenty three is

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Speaker 14: the high.

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Speaker 2: Brilliant neither, thank you. That is great news for today

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Speaker 2: for your Friday morning. If you're in all Clint Mients

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Speaker 2: in maca any a UK correspondent, Next, how do you

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Speaker 2: just lose one hundred and sixty six thousand people? He'll

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Speaker 2: answer that question.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: It is fourteen minutes away from six Winston Peters has

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Speaker 2: just put a press release out. He's in Germany. He

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Speaker 2: is the first foreign minister to visit Berlin since twenty sixteen. Interestingly, anyway,

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Speaker 2: they had a range of conversations about a bunch of stuff,

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Speaker 2: including Ukraine and overnight, as we reported earlier this morning,

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Speaker 2: Winston Peters and our government have introduced new sanctions on

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Speaker 2: Russia over its war in Ukraine, these of chemical weapons.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we're going to Vincent mcaviny, UK Europe correspondent,

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Speaker 2: and we will start with that. Actually, Ukraine has suffered

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Speaker 2: a huge drone strike with Russia threatening to use new

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Speaker 2: types of missiles on Kiev. The Vincent, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 6: Overnight Ukraine suffered a huge attack once again on its

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Speaker 6: power gred Roy In winter here in Europe, it's very

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Speaker 6: cold in Ukraine and it's left around a million in

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Speaker 6: people without power after they struck twelve targets. This is

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Speaker 6: a pattern they've been following over recent months to really

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Speaker 6: try and make this winter as difficult and horrible as possible.

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Speaker 6: And that warning as well that they might use that

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Speaker 6: new missile. Now, last week when I spoke to you,

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Speaker 6: Ukraine had suggested it was potentially an ICBM without a

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Speaker 6: nuclear warhead on it, but we now know it was

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Speaker 6: some kind of new type of misstile that Russia's developed

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Speaker 6: that Western governments are scrambling to try to understand, and

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Speaker 6: they have threatened more attacks, particularly in what they're saying

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Speaker 6: is the sort of power centres, decision making centers, so

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Speaker 6: that would be central key trying to possibly destroy the government.

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Speaker 2: And very quickly the knit migration revised figures from twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three. How do you lose one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: six thousand people?

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Speaker 6: Well quiet, and just to frame this, when the Conservatives

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Speaker 6: came into governments in twenty ten, they promised that they'd

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Speaker 6: get migration underneath six figures, so net migration be less

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Speaker 6: than one hundred thousand. When they left their final full

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Speaker 6: it turns out that they had claimed in the twelve

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Speaker 6: months to June twenty twenty three only net migration was

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Speaker 6: only and I say only seven hundred and forty thousand.

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Speaker 6: It was in the fact nine hundred and six thousand.

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Speaker 6: That is a huge revision, and there are questions about

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Speaker 6: why that revision is so drastic. We have found out

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Speaker 6: the latest in the twelve months to June this year

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Speaker 6: it's fallen back to seven hundred and twenty eight thousand.

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Speaker 6: But we know from what's happening in governments around the world,

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Speaker 6: the US and Europe as well. If labor can't bring

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Speaker 6: that number down, then they'll likely be punished at the

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Speaker 6: election in five years time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for it that it's been to mecavini

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Speaker 2: Are UK Europe correspondent News Talk CID be just gone

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Speaker 2: Living away from six. Ryan Bridge shows phase that the

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Speaker 2: Royal Commission inquiry into the COVID response has been released,

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Speaker 2: and while it says many things were done correctly, it's

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Speaker 2: highly critical of the government response at the time, particularly

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Speaker 2: around mandates and the length of lockdowns. Lady Debrah Chambers

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Speaker 2: case he wrote an opinion piece at the time and

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Speaker 2: I spoke to her then. This is the first line

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Speaker 2: from it. The emergency legislation in response to COVID nineteen

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Speaker 2: giving our government the right to control our freedom of

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Speaker 2: movement is no longer demonstrably justified in removing the fundamental

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Speaker 2: rights to which New Zealanders are entitled. And Lady devis

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Speaker 2: with me this morning. Good morning, Good morning Ryan, great

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Speaker 2: to speak to you again. How did you feel or

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Speaker 2: what did you think reading that or having a look

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Speaker 2: at that report yesterday?

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Speaker 9: Well, I thought there was some good news there in

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Speaker 9: that Tony Professor Tony Blakeley has grappled with and the

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Speaker 9: hurt caused to a lot of New Zealanders and the

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Speaker 9: harm caused to a lot of New Zealanders by our

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Speaker 9: government's response to COVID. And he also obviously has some

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Speaker 9: pretty good ideas about how to cope next time, but

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Speaker 9: he does grapple with this issue of excessive use of lockdowns.

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Speaker 9: And it's also, as we know, very critical of the mandates,

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Speaker 9: particularly towards the end period of the epidemic.

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Speaker 2: Do we need some kind of accountability for this?

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Speaker 9: Well, personally, I think that an apology is due. I mean,

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Speaker 9: I was pro vaccination, so I wasn't affected by the mandates.

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Speaker 9: But I know from my interaction and from this report

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Speaker 9: that those people affected by the mandates who lost their jobs,

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Speaker 9: for example, are very angry still because you see them

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Speaker 9: and you hear them in the community and political things

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Speaker 9: and so on, that they disrupt political meetings. They are

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Speaker 9: feeling so angry by that and that social lack of cohesion.

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Speaker 9: They're not forgetting and they're quite a big group and

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Speaker 9: they feel very hurt. And also I also think there's been,

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Speaker 9: as the Commission says, this reduction throughout New Zealand and

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Speaker 9: confidence and government. So I must say I'm pointing the

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Speaker 9: finger at Chris Hipkins. Why because he was Minister in

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Speaker 9: charge of COVID nineteen response, Education, Police, Health and Deputy

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Speaker 9: Prime Minister. And he's the only one of the three

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Speaker 9: of them who are still there in Parliament. And you

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Speaker 9: know his response is so far quote it's a really

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Speaker 9: helpful report. Quote, I accept the Royal Commissions finding it.

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Speaker 9: There were things that could have been done differently. Well,

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Speaker 9: it's the usual weasel words, isn't it from politicians. I mean,

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Speaker 9: he would be better and it would be it would

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Speaker 9: make a difference to people if he said we made

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Speaker 9: for real mistakes and I'm sorry we did that. I'm

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Speaker 9: sorry we did that around these as use of mandates,

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Speaker 9: lockdowns and I think am i q as well?

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Speaker 2: What about just an apology basically from Hopkins? Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: about the And we've only got about a minute left here,

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Speaker 2: lady Debriah, But what about the you wrote this column.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you would have got lots of kick back

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Speaker 2: from lots of corners. Just that social fragmentation. When one

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Speaker 2: person put their head above the parapet to say something

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Speaker 2: that God forbid, might contradict the prevailing narrative.

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Speaker 15: You're shot down, Yes, yes, that was definitely the case

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Speaker 15: that no other view was accepted, and it was, you know,

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Speaker 15: very it was like a fundamentalist religion was it was

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Speaker 15: far too rigid and far too lacking and taking into account.

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Speaker 9: Other people's perspectives as a sorry state.

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Speaker 2: That we were in, Lady debri Chambers, I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much for being with me.

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Speaker 8: My pleasure.

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Speaker 2: A talk seven away from six News Talks HEB, the.

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Speaker 1: News you need this morning and the in depth analysis

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Speaker 1: early edition with Ryan Bridge and Fifth City, New Zealand's

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Speaker 1: Furniture Beds and a playing Store.

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Speaker 2: News Talk said be five away from six on News

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Speaker 2: Talks B. We've just had Lady Deborah Chambers on KC

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Speaker 2: who said that Hepkins needs to stand up in front

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Speaker 2: of the public, stop pussy footing around my words and

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Speaker 2: apologize for what happened during COVID. You're on News Talks

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Speaker 2: HEB and Mike Hosking is up next. Good morning, Make morning.

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Speaker 16: Fortunately, we've got jacindaduon who arrives back in the country

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Speaker 16: this morning to come into the studio and answer all

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Speaker 16: the questions.

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Speaker 2: You don't undert honestly, shock don't. We don't either. That's right.

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Speaker 16: Where where's where's she?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, she's not here in New York. Get

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Speaker 2: three hundred capers speaking.

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Speaker 16: Apparently saying no, she's not available to talk to anyone

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Speaker 16: about the decision she made.

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Speaker 2: How ironic in some ways you think, well, if she

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Speaker 2: did come back, could she actually walk down the street.

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Speaker 2: I thought that quite long, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 16: I'm waiting for her book, which apparently was due out

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Speaker 16: by Christmas, which is clearly never coming. But how do

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Speaker 16: you how does a woman like her? And that seems

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Speaker 16: I almost feel sorry for it. How do you come

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Speaker 16: back to the country ever, Well, that's right, go sit

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Speaker 16: and wit calls without the book, security guards around your saying,

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Speaker 16: oh you're wanting me to sign your book, or where

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Speaker 16: else would you like me to put the book? But

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Speaker 16: we know where her book sales will do best, and

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Speaker 16: that's overseas. Yeah, I think that's part of it. Anyway,

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Speaker 16: we'll be doing a bit of that today. And I

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Speaker 16: liked your comments earlier on about the police yesterday, that

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Speaker 16: that local superintendent he's the goods.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also I like the fact that they spoke, they

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Speaker 2: had someone there to speak in Maldi to the coury

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Speaker 2: who was upset. That's progressive policing. See Tomorrow No Monday for.

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