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Speaker 1: Parking fines are about to go through the roof. The

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Speaker 1: government is updating the amount that can be charged if

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Speaker 1: overstay you're welcome on the parking or on the car park.

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Speaker 1: It means the fines are going to go up by

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Speaker 1: about seventy percent. And here's the big one. If you

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Speaker 1: park in a disabled car parking you're not supposed to,

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Speaker 1: the fine is going from one hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: to seven hundred and fifty dollars. Also, towing companies will

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Speaker 1: be allowed to charge you more. Transport Minister Simeon Brown.

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Speaker 2: Is with us, hey same in good evening.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing this because this is what Wayne Brown wants?

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think there's something that councils have been asking for,

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Speaker 2: including Wayne Brown, in terms of being able to make

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Speaker 2: sure they can get cost recovery. The reality is a

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Speaker 2: lot of these fines haven't been increased since the twenty years,

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Speaker 2: think two thousand and four, and the reality is it's

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Speaker 2: not something that you want to do. But the reality's

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Speaker 2: councils do have to make sure that they are to

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Speaker 2: enforce the rules and that means putting people out there

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Speaker 2: so that you know, for car parking, for instance, at

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Speaker 2: the local shops and the local business wants more customers

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Speaker 2: coming through. That is you're going to make sure those

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Speaker 2: car parks are available for those those businesses for people

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Speaker 2: to come along. So it's definitely not something which you

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Speaker 2: like to do, but it's something which is about making

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Speaker 2: sure that the tools are in place, and they haven't

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Speaker 2: been updated twenty years so for example, and twenty years, well,

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Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things that's in regulations

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Speaker 2: and it hasn't been looked at for all that time.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure why, but you know, for instance, when

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Speaker 2: it comes to an Auckland here where I am at

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Speaker 2: the moment, and I think Wayne Brown makes a sensible,

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty common sense point. Sometimes actually the cost

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Speaker 2: of parking is more expense is actually you know, more

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Speaker 2: than the actual fine, so why why bother paying the parking?

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Speaker 2: So it's about common sense and people taking responsibility and

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Speaker 2: giving counsels those tools. But we have made one significant

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Speaker 2: change which you highlighted in the intro, which is around

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Speaker 2: disabled car parks, and that is basically just sending a

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Speaker 2: very key message to people who do park and disabled

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Speaker 2: cart parks. We have zero tolerance for that. And you

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Speaker 2: know those are there for a reason for people who

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Speaker 2: are disabled, and it's really important that they are able

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Speaker 2: to access those car parks. And you know, those people

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Speaker 2: go and hold those car parks are pretty despicable to.

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Speaker 1: Right, Hey, what are you going to do about Hawk's

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Speaker 1: Bay Regional councilor having those gang members in there?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it's pretty appalling. I haven't haven't got

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Speaker 2: an answer to specific answer to your question other than

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Speaker 2: I guess my message is that councils should be following

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Speaker 2: the law, and you know, in this case they have

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Speaker 2: not been, which is the law says very clearly that

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Speaker 2: you know, gang insignia is not to be displayed in

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Speaker 2: public places.

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Speaker 1: And they told you why they didn't do that.

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Speaker 2: They haven't told me directly. What I've heard is that

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Speaker 2: they just want to be nice. That's an excuse. The

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Speaker 2: reality is that was intimidating. It was an important vote

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Speaker 2: by that council and those people should not have been

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Speaker 2: there wearing those insignia.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to do about? E can.

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Speaker 2: That's a challenging situation because the standing Orders of Parliament

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Speaker 2: don't don't allow a government bill to repeal a local bill. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and so I've written to the Council asking the Council

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Speaker 2: to put forward a local bill too, and that said no,

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Speaker 2: which I expected. We're considering what further steps may need

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Speaker 2: to be required, and so we're getting further advice around that.

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Speaker 1: You are, do you think there are things you can do?

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Speaker 2: Well, We're getting further advice on it. None of the

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Speaker 2: options are easy from what the early advice that I

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Speaker 2: have seen. But ultimately, you know, we are committed to

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Speaker 2: the principle of one person, one vote. That is an

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Speaker 2: incredibly anti democratic rule that is in place there it

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Speaker 2: he can and so we are working through the options.

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Speaker 2: But because of the standing orders not allowing a government

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Speaker 2: bill to repeal a local bill, it does make it

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Speaker 2: a lot harder. Otherwise I would have just put a

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Speaker 2: bill through Parliament by now, I mean really quickly.

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Speaker 1: How badly do you want to change that? Because this

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Speaker 1: a fight you want to have.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's something it's a principle that we need to uphold. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and the concern is that you know, this becomes something

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Speaker 2: that other councils may look to do as well, So

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Speaker 2: you know, it is something we're doing. We're taking further

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Speaker 2: advice on to work out what the options are, and

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Speaker 2: I'm working closely with my colleague Paul Goldsmith on that

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Speaker 2: as Minister of Justice as well.

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Speaker 1: Good on you, Hey, thank you for that, Sam and Brown.

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Speaker 1: The transportment as to what it is is that e

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Speaker 1: can the regional Authority in Canterbury has got two seats

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Speaker 1: for Manifenawa on there and they basically have to as

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Speaker 1: you heard some me and so they basically have to

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Speaker 1: undo that they don't want to. So he's going to

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Speaker 1: have to somehow figure out how to go over the

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Speaker 1: top of them.

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