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Speaker 2: McDonald's here too. We're here until three. What on earth?

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Speaker 2: What on earth has happened over the last three days?

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Speaker 2: In poone you will Ravia.

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Speaker 3: You picked it right, but taken down inside the boundary.

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Speaker 3: And that completes one of the most remarkable achievements in

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Speaker 2: Indeed it does. The black Caps have clinched a Test

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Speaker 2: series win in India for the first time, beating their

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Speaker 2: hosts by one hundred and thirteen runs in the second

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Speaker 2: Test in Poune, Mitchell Satona taking six second innings wickets

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Speaker 2: to finish with thirteen for the match. Just utterly astonishing

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Speaker 2: and a little hard to put into context. If I'm

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Speaker 2: Frank Till and Clever's going to try in a moment

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Speaker 2: to put it into context. Your views are welcome as well.

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Speaker 2: How big is this? Let's celebrate one of the truly

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Speaker 2: significant feats in our cricketing history. After one o'clock, All

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Speaker 2: Blacks assistant coach Jason Ryan's on the show job done

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Speaker 2: in Yokohama yesterday are sixty four to nineteen went over Japan,

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Speaker 2: ten tries, no injuries, a bunch of players who haven't

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Speaker 2: had a lot of game time getting some game time.

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Speaker 2: There are tougher tests ahead, obviously, but let's break this

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Speaker 2: one down as well, Jas Ryan and your thoughts and

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Speaker 2: reflections on the latest All Backs test. After one other

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Speaker 2: matters around today, Stallation Cup Netball Test number three tonight

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Speaker 2: in Perth, New Zealand can win back the Constellation Cup

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Speaker 2: if they win tonight. Mid quarter camod to point with

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Speaker 2: US Rugby League doubleheader in christ Durts today Pacific Championship

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Speaker 1: The schoo from the Tragh Fields and the court on

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Speaker 3: Taken down Inside the Boundary by Tim Salvey and that

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Speaker 3: completes one of the most remarkable achievements in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Test batch cricket history. They have beaten India in India

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Speaker 3: in a series. This is no fluke. They have outplayed

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Speaker 3: a very good team and they've done it in style.

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Speaker 2: This is the first time they've ever beaten India in India.

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Speaker 3: And for India on the other side of the ledger,

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Speaker 3: it's their first home defeat since twenty twelve. How about

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Satner whose Test career history said he couldn't do this.

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Speaker 2: He has incredible and historic achievement for the black Caps,

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Speaker 2: and nearly twenty percent of his Test wickets have come

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Speaker 2: Dylan Cleaver is with us, Dylan, how do we even

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Speaker 4: In three hundred and something days It's been since Alister Cook's

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Speaker 2: Let's go straight to Mitchell Santner. Why was he a

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Speaker 4: That's a really good question. I can only guess at

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Speaker 4: They better poorly in this Test and you could maybe

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Speaker 7: Have we.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's taken over the captaincy and he's done

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Speaker 4: I think he probably has. And again that's the ability

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that you land on such an interesting point, Dylan,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it had, and we're not sure about the talent

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Speaker 4: Tom Layton's form had been I think it was warranted

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Speaker 2: Moment you mentioned, Devin Conway. There is everything fifty and

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Speaker 2: worrying about Devin Conway now or are you still a

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Speaker 10: Great, what a great occasion for New Zealand and I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely incredible, Dallas, And just on the Eden Park analogy,

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, I've really just stretched golfer as well.

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Speaker 11: Rich.

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Speaker 2: I thought of you often yesterday. Mate.

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Speaker 12: The right side of my face is very numb, Pony.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, I'm kind of like you. It is

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Speaker 12: It's just it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's beyond comprehension. I think, you know one of those

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Speaker 13: that looks like it's going down league and it just

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Speaker 13: clipped leg stump and he would just almost golds met

429
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Speaker 13: having to walk off, and then it's just kind of

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Speaker 13: like you kind of knew the end once those were

431
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Speaker 13: last couple of work. It's foul I was like, this

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Speaker 13: is this isn't a bad pony. And as you say,

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Speaker 13: like we I critique this team with you a lot

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Speaker 13: on air, and we do it, you know, with passion

435
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Speaker 13: and because we care, and I just think, you know,

436
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Speaker 13: it was close to having a teen ametric because it

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Speaker 13: means so much. You know, we've got we've suffered for

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Speaker 13: a lot of pain. And one of your previous calls

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Speaker 13: talked about twenty nineteen, which you know, we don't want

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Speaker 13: to bring out the therapy couts like we did back

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Speaker 13: twenty nineteen, piny, but you know it's yeah, it's incredible

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Speaker 13: and you know, just so proud of this team for

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Speaker 13: what they've accomplished.

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Speaker 2: Good Man, Rich, great summary, mate, Yeah, look a day

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Speaker 2: for you to savor as a cricket fan. For me

446
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Speaker 2: as well, I've you know, I've loved cricket my whole life.

447
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Speaker 2: And yeah, the eighty five Test Series in Australia or

448
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Speaker 2: something special. I remember taping the highlights of it on VHS,

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Speaker 2: you know, the old old video recorder and watching it

450
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Speaker 2: so often that it was starting to you know what

451
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Speaker 2: happened when you used to watch the HS tape too much,

452
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Speaker 2: it would it would warp the tape and so bits

453
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Speaker 2: of it raw had, you know, wavy lines across the screen.

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Speaker 2: But I just couldn't get enough of Richard Hadley and

455
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Speaker 2: Brisbane Martin Crow's batting in Brisbane. That was my my

456
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Speaker 2: cricketing test, cricketing peak, I think up until the last

457
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks because this is so significant, so significant,

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Speaker 2: and so I think because it's so rare.

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Speaker 11: Hello, Zane, Well, it's a lifelong cricket fane like you.

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Speaker 11: Since it was about nine years old when I first

461
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Speaker 11: saw New Zealand playing Pakistan. I think Imma and Khan

462
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Speaker 11: was was touring here be sixded by tiss cricket ever

463
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Speaker 11: since well, I think those were Teas and Tchoy to

464
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Speaker 11: suit us well though, got us into the groove of

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Speaker 11: the subcut.

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Speaker 2: That's the that's the why to find a silver lightning.

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Speaker 11: Well, hold on that feast tis we you know we've

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Speaker 11: got women's runs, I think. So it wasn't a total shllicking.

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Speaker 11: We did collapse in the second test, but it surely

470
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Speaker 11: was better than just going cold Turkey to India, as

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Speaker 11: is the case these days where you.

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Speaker 6: Don't have warm up games traditionally anymore.

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Speaker 11: Good point, Yeah, and I sorry to end on a negative,

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Speaker 11: I guess, but no, actually it's a positive. It's a

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Speaker 11: positive for Test cricket. You know, it's whenever a stupid

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Speaker 11: ICC type of official says I No, Test cricket should

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Speaker 11: just be besweing Australia, England and India. You know, this

478
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Speaker 11: is another blueprint of why no, and God, it's time

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Speaker 11: they get together and sort this calendar out. I mean, mate,

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Speaker 11: I'm of the opinion now if they have to do

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Speaker 11: away with fifty game the cricket and just play it

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Speaker 11: once every four years at the World Cup, split up

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Speaker 11: the rest of the season Test cricket and T twenties.

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Speaker 11: You know, I ain't key left a goot teach wis.

485
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Speaker 11: I understand the dollars and the Indian billionaires behind it,

486
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Speaker 11: and the type of crowd that they reckon wants to

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Speaker 11: see it. But you know they've got to do something

488
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Speaker 11: because we just cannot allow, you know, that this to

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Speaker 11: be like in ten years time, Hezly doesn't play.

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Speaker 6: Teat crioket anymore.

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Speaker 11: We've got January this year, no tease cricket. I mean,

492
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Speaker 11: it's just something something someone with brains has got to

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Speaker 11: sit together with these rich billionaires that now run the game,

494
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Speaker 11: and most of them in India and safe the game

495
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Speaker 11: because you just can't. We don't want to stop these

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Speaker 11: come from behind wins on what not. Traditionally the wool

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Speaker 11: powers of cricket from happening and Pakistan last night came

498
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Speaker 11: back from behind to beat England. I mean that was

499
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Speaker 11: very sweet as well, and very weirdly it was on

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Speaker 11: YouTube for free if people didn't know. I found that

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Speaker 11: quite into so anyway, just just overall fantastic result came out,

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Speaker 11: I know where in good on Ian Smith for fronting

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Speaker 11: up and saying you know, mate, I was tuffed it up.

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Speaker 11: Set it was a revelation.

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Speaker 2: Love it, love it, saying ye look like like you.

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Speaker 2: I've always thought test cricket is the best cricket. I

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Speaker 2: know that it doesn't. It doesn't measure up financially to

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Speaker 2: the juggernaut that is T twenty. But I agree with

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Speaker 2: you on the fifty over stuff. Got to find a

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Speaker 2: way to I mean, the irrelevance now of bilateral fifty

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Speaker 2: over series. You know, look, if it was just if

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Speaker 2: it was just test test matches and T twenties and

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Speaker 2: fifty overs was just restricted to tournaments I'd be quite happy,

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Speaker 2: quite happy T twenty pays the Bills Test cricketers. It's

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Speaker 2: the fabric of the game. Andrew, Hi, Okay, Barney, here

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Speaker 2: you go. Very good, Andrew.

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Speaker 14: I think goodness for the black Cats, so we don't

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Speaker 14: have to talk about awful the bits Worth.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they were okay in the first half. Andrew, I

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Speaker 2: thought they were okay in the first half.

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Speaker 6: AnyWho, I think we can agree to disagree on that.

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Speaker 14: You reckon, Mitch Satin that can play first five?

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Speaker 2: Well, I reckon, I reckon yesterday. I reckon you give him,

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Speaker 2: you give him any positions on any sporting team. He's

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Speaker 2: just got to He's got a hot hand at the moment,

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Speaker 2: is they? But I look, did you see that coming?

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Speaker 15: Really?

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Speaker 16: Well?

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Speaker 14: No, not to the extent, but I am surprised at

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Speaker 14: the surprise shown that Mitch Sentner's performance. For the first time,

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Speaker 14: he's been able to bowl on a wicket that offers assistance.

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Speaker 14: You know, when he bowls over here, we all marvel

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Speaker 14: at as flight and control as we used to do

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Speaker 14: with the inventory. But now that he's been put in

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Speaker 14: conditions where not only can he use that flight and control,

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Speaker 14: he actually has a pitch that turns and to be

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Speaker 14: fair turned square at times. Yeah, I think he's a

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Speaker 14: fantastic cricketer and too, you know, I'd be almost going

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Speaker 14: down the road of let's not have green seema friendby

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Speaker 14: wickets in New Zealand. They have one that turns on

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Speaker 14: day four and five. We have players that can exploit.

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Speaker 2: You well that that famous sum stat that A J. S.

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Speaker 2: Battel has never taken a Test wicket in New Zealand

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Speaker 2: is one that you know. And you know we're known

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Speaker 2: for our dirty green seamers and that's I'm sure what

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Speaker 2: we'll get for these three Tests against England. But if

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Speaker 2: we are to develop our spin bowlers, yeah, we've got

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Speaker 2: to give them something to bowl on. Back here, I'm

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Speaker 2: just looking at Mitchell Sander's bowling in the Subcontinent and

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Speaker 2: he hasn't had a heck of a lot of opportunity.

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Speaker 2: But you're right. I look it back at twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: against India and Campo. He got got five wickets in Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he got five wigets in a Test match, got four

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Speaker 2: at Eden Garden, so he got nine across two Test

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Speaker 2: matches over there. Yeah, I think, but I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: I think back here because our wickets are so not

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Speaker 2: conducive to his type of bowling that he just becomes

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Speaker 2: a stop bowler ready, doesn't he just tying up one end?

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Speaker 2: Never runs through a team?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, and does a fantastic Joe Bennett. No spinner in

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Speaker 14: New Zealand conditions is going to run through a team,

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Speaker 14: you know. If We've had some pretty good spinners tour

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Speaker 14: this country, and I can't think of many that have

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Speaker 14: run through a team, you know, like he did in

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Speaker 14: India over the last few days. Yeah, he said, I've

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Speaker 14: been a long time trying to think of the works.

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Speaker 9: I said that, and linguid as the one I settled off.

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Speaker 14: I don't think I've ever seen a sportsman he was

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Speaker 14: more relexed. They'd be lying down. He just like everything

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Speaker 14: he does seems I don't know, it's like he's playing

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Speaker 14: the game in slow motion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And maybe that's the secret, Andrew, Maybe that's the secret.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you know, a relaxed state of mind. Well, they

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Speaker 2: say it's good for golf, don't they. They always say

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Speaker 2: that if you if you can clear your mind and

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Speaker 2: be pretty relaxed, you'll be a good golfer. And Mitchell

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Speaker 2: Senter's a scratch golfer. Maybe it translates across the cricket

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Speaker 2: as well. Thanks for your call, mate, and nineteen away

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Speaker 2: from one full board at the moment, I eight hundred

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Speaker 2: and eighty teen eighty or your thoughts fire text on

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Speaker 2: nine two ninety two Back with more of your calls

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Speaker 2: after this.

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Speaker 1: The tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason

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Speaker 1: Pine and GJ. Gunnerholmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder

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Speaker 2: Twelve forty five News Talks EDB I eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. Dobbo, You've watched a lot of sport.

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Speaker 2: Where is the stand mate?

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Speaker 17: Mate?

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Speaker 6: It's the everest of crickets and the quotes a red.

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Speaker 15: We finally knocked the bustard off sixty nine years of trying.

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Speaker 15: Nineteen sixty nine was one all the closest we ever

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Speaker 15: got the beating in nineteen sixty nine one. All the

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Speaker 15: third tests were in control and it rained, so.

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Speaker 18: We would deny it.

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Speaker 15: Unbelievable, but may.

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Speaker 6: Look, I'll be the first time.

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Speaker 15: I'm sure others have, but we are an unreserved apology

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Speaker 15: to Mitch Center. Sorry Mitch, but can I just put

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Speaker 15: this in perspective. Before this Test match, Satan had played

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Speaker 15: twenty eight tests most and pretty miserable, averaging forty two

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Speaker 15: point two runs per wicked. Cain Williamson has a better

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Speaker 15: bowling average than than Mitch Sentner.

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Speaker 2: Has changed now, yes, and when you.

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Speaker 15: Look at that context, he was terrible against Sri Lanka

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Speaker 15: was the one test. I'ms done. The cracketing world's done.

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Speaker 8: But good on him.

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Speaker 15: And it just shows as other causes said Piney, we

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Speaker 15: need to have a Test, but are playing at home

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Speaker 15: and a lot more tests. It's shocking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely shocking. I totally agreed to her. And

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Speaker 2: and you look at other teams and we have to

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Speaker 2: back aspiners. Look at Australia right, no matter if it's

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Speaker 2: the dirtiest green seamer out there, Nathan Lyon plays every Test.

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Speaker 15: And this is the other thing, because I mean with

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Speaker 15: Glenn Phillips and that Test we lost in Wellington where

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Speaker 15: we had the Aussies on the ropes and then got

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Speaker 15: that one hundred plus tenth wicket stand where didn't bowl

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Speaker 15: Phillips for the second inning. For the second thing, so

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Speaker 15: they've made mistake after mistake, poor decision after poor decision.

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Speaker 15: I didn't think Senter deserved to be on this tour.

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Speaker 15: I looked at the ICC Bowl rankings for Tests. He's

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Speaker 15: ranked seventy sixth in the world. I mean, just defies belief.

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Speaker 15: But just to quick shout out to Latham because he

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Speaker 15: was playing ballsy attacking with the in out and yes

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Speaker 15: their run rate was round five, six, seven, even eight

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Speaker 15: and when the new ball was fresh. That was really

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Speaker 15: gutsy bold captain c which we didn't see from from Southey.

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Speaker 6: And when you.

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Speaker 15: Think that Lathan came into this Test series him being

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Speaker 15: out in the first over of three of his four

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Speaker 15: previous innings before this Indian tour and the last Test

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Speaker 15: against Srilanka, Lathan was out in the first over twice

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Speaker 15: in that second Test. I don't think he's Illeoten has

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Speaker 15: had that before twice in the first over, so he

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Speaker 15: was in no form. Satana well, he was making up

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Speaker 15: the numbers and both of them have turned out hero.

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Speaker 15: So from Zara at a hero, we tip our hats. Wonderful,

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Speaker 15: wonderful time.

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Speaker 11: For New Zealand cricket.

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Speaker 2: Wonderful stuff from you Dovo, Good on you mate, thanks

642
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Speaker 2: for calling. Always enjoy our chats. Twelve and a half

643
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Speaker 2: to one. Hello, Sean, Yeah, hi, poney.

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Speaker 5: Well, one of the big points of the of the

645
00:35:11,747 --> 00:35:15,267
Speaker 5: weekend with winning the cricket is that the fact we've

646
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Speaker 5: had three captains have win won in India. And guess

647
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Speaker 5: where the three captains all come from?

648
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Speaker 2: Oh where you come from?

649
00:35:22,307 --> 00:35:22,547
Speaker 7: Short?

650
00:35:22,627 --> 00:35:24,027
Speaker 2: I know what you're going to say here.

651
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Speaker 5: Yes, they're good cantabs, Yes they are.

652
00:35:28,347 --> 00:35:31,307
Speaker 2: You're so right. I saw that stat yesterday, so you reckon?

653
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Speaker 2: I mean, what were we doing sending teams to India

654
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Speaker 2: with captains from other places?

655
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Speaker 5: I ask myself, that's right, Yes, we've changed the captains.

656
00:35:40,227 --> 00:35:41,267
Speaker 5: Earlier we'd have been right.

657
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Speaker 2: Exactly What did you make of it? Those Sean? I mean,

658
00:35:44,307 --> 00:35:45,427
Speaker 2: what an achievement?

659
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah yeah, well Billians and sat you know, everybody's

660
00:35:50,227 --> 00:35:53,947
Speaker 5: moans about him usually, but he's always there and he's

661
00:35:54,307 --> 00:35:55,187
Speaker 5: he's consistent.

662
00:35:55,707 --> 00:35:59,267
Speaker 2: Yeah, well he I think the I think the reason

663
00:35:59,267 --> 00:36:01,867
Speaker 2: there's frustration aroundhim is because he just doesn't get wickets.

664
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Speaker 2: This is this is an outline. Like I said at

665
00:36:03,947 --> 00:36:05,987
Speaker 2: the top of the show, Shawn, twenty percent of his

666
00:36:06,067 --> 00:36:07,747
Speaker 2: Test wickets came in the last two days.

667
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I think that's where.

668
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Speaker 2: The frustration comes from is the fact that he just

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Speaker 2: if he's picked as a spinner, he needs to be

670
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Speaker 2: able to pick up, you know, pick up red ball wickets,

671
00:36:16,347 --> 00:36:17,867
Speaker 2: and he just hasn't been able to do that for

672
00:36:17,907 --> 00:36:20,587
Speaker 2: whatever reason. Back here, it's harder, right, the pictures aren't

673
00:36:20,587 --> 00:36:24,467
Speaker 2: conducive to it. Over there, he's often been I don't

674
00:36:24,467 --> 00:36:25,907
Speaker 2: think he's been the front line spinner. In fact, in

675
00:36:25,907 --> 00:36:27,627
Speaker 2: this game he's not. He's not the number one spinner.

676
00:36:27,667 --> 00:36:29,427
Speaker 2: I think you look at this, this eleven that's been

677
00:36:29,427 --> 00:36:31,267
Speaker 2: picked for this Test match and so a Jes Bettel's

678
00:36:31,267 --> 00:36:33,867
Speaker 2: a number one spinner. Mitch Center's next, and then you

679
00:36:33,907 --> 00:36:36,547
Speaker 2: know Glenn Phillipson Ruchen didn't get much of a go really.

680
00:36:36,587 --> 00:36:39,227
Speaker 2: But as Dylan cleav said, if you were going to pick,

681
00:36:39,667 --> 00:36:41,627
Speaker 2: if someone said he before the Test and he jellan

682
00:36:41,627 --> 00:36:43,387
Speaker 2: spinner is going to get thirteen wickets, there's no way

683
00:36:43,427 --> 00:36:46,147
Speaker 2: you land on Mitchell Center. You land on ajs Bettel.

684
00:36:46,747 --> 00:36:49,547
Speaker 2: Thanks Shawan and good good flying of the red and

685
00:36:49,587 --> 00:36:52,947
Speaker 2: Black flag from you, mate, Tony high Hi.

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Speaker 19: I guess that cricket's never going to be up for

687
00:36:56,507 --> 00:36:59,067
Speaker 19: the Team of the Awards for the Hulberg's ever again.

688
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Speaker 19: And I don't think everyone has been in the past,

689
00:37:02,227 --> 00:37:03,347
Speaker 19: but they've got.

690
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Speaker 11: To get it this time.

691
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Speaker 19: This is so incredible, phenomenal, sorry that it outshines any

692
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Speaker 19: other sporting tame ever.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the black Caps, sorry Tony, think the

694
00:37:15,867 --> 00:37:17,747
Speaker 2: black Caps won that they did one it in twenty

695
00:37:17,747 --> 00:37:20,147
Speaker 2: one when they won the World Test Championship. But I

696
00:37:20,187 --> 00:37:23,227
Speaker 2: guess then you think to yourself, Okay, yes, this is

697
00:37:23,267 --> 00:37:25,667
Speaker 2: a this is a wonderful achievement. And this probably correlates

698
00:37:25,707 --> 00:37:27,507
Speaker 2: to the White Funds as well. The White Funds have

699
00:37:27,507 --> 00:37:29,867
Speaker 2: won a World Cup, but they were terrible before that.

700
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that the black Caps were terrible. But

701
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Speaker 2: apart from the series, if you look at if you

702
00:37:34,427 --> 00:37:38,427
Speaker 2: hover above the year, what's the year being like or

703
00:37:38,507 --> 00:37:40,307
Speaker 2: do you just look at this one pinnacle event say

704
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Speaker 2: well that that trumps everything.

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Speaker 19: Well, I think it does you it's just you know,

706
00:37:45,427 --> 00:37:48,827
Speaker 19: the comparison with Everest is is there. I mean, there's

707
00:37:48,867 --> 00:37:50,907
Speaker 19: never going to be a bigger mountain and I doest

708
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Speaker 19: well everyone does it now, but under the circumstances of

709
00:37:55,147 --> 00:37:57,667
Speaker 19: the day, no one was ever going to do what

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00:37:57,747 --> 00:38:03,267
Speaker 19: Hillary did. Again in the circumstances of the day, and

711
00:38:03,947 --> 00:38:07,507
Speaker 19: New Zealand will never beat India in it at cricket

712
00:38:08,027 --> 00:38:12,227
Speaker 19: in your my lifetime and probably not in yours or

713
00:38:12,267 --> 00:38:13,947
Speaker 19: our children's, our grandchildren.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's when we've got four and seventy years, Tony.

715
00:38:17,387 --> 00:38:19,667
Speaker 2: It's not a great strike rate, is it that you

716
00:38:19,707 --> 00:38:22,187
Speaker 2: know that? I've seen those conversations as well. Thanks for

717
00:38:22,227 --> 00:38:24,427
Speaker 2: you come mate, around the Helbergs and things like that.

718
00:38:24,587 --> 00:38:28,267
Speaker 2: I think this feels like a moment of the year candidate.

719
00:38:29,827 --> 00:38:31,667
Speaker 2: You know when you when you're looking for your team

720
00:38:31,707 --> 00:38:35,667
Speaker 2: of the year and it's tough in Olympic year, isn't it?

721
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Speaker 2: Because you've got the gold medalists too always, I mean

722
00:38:38,147 --> 00:38:40,427
Speaker 2: that's a pinnacle as well. But then and how do

723
00:38:40,467 --> 00:38:42,427
Speaker 2: you compare how do you compare winning a gold medal

724
00:38:42,427 --> 00:38:48,027
Speaker 2: and rugby sevens at the Olympic Games, or what the

725
00:38:48,027 --> 00:38:50,987
Speaker 2: the K four kayak and crew did, or what even

726
00:38:51,027 --> 00:38:54,027
Speaker 2: what Lisa Carrington and and Aalisia Hoskin did as a

727
00:38:54,027 --> 00:38:56,587
Speaker 2: team in the K two. How do you compare that

728
00:38:57,347 --> 00:39:00,347
Speaker 2: to what the Black Caps have done here and utterly

729
00:39:00,587 --> 00:39:05,747
Speaker 2: historic achievement which has never been done before across seven

730
00:39:05,867 --> 00:39:09,547
Speaker 2: decades of trying. Does that trump and Olympic gold medal.

731
00:39:09,587 --> 00:39:13,347
Speaker 2: It's an impossible comparison to make, but my gut just

732
00:39:13,387 --> 00:39:17,187
Speaker 2: tells me that what's happened here in Poune is a

733
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Speaker 2: candidate for sports Moment of the Year. That's how it

734
00:39:20,387 --> 00:39:22,667
Speaker 2: feels to me anyway. Eight to one talks.

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Speaker 1: Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fails Weekend

736
00:39:28,707 --> 00:39:31,947
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason yin News Talk ZB.

737
00:39:32,027 --> 00:39:34,187
Speaker 2: Five to one. Thanks for your calls and correspondence on

738
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Speaker 2: the cricket, Charlie, Saysponi. Now we've beaten India in India.

739
00:39:37,947 --> 00:39:41,027
Speaker 2: Which other nations have we won a series against and

740
00:39:41,307 --> 00:39:44,787
Speaker 2: not won a series against in their backyard? Charlie, great question.

741
00:39:45,147 --> 00:39:48,187
Speaker 2: Fortunately I have the answer for you. The only country

742
00:39:48,227 --> 00:39:51,187
Speaker 2: of the Test playing nations that we haven't beaten in

743
00:39:51,267 --> 00:39:54,987
Speaker 2: a Test series on their home soil as South Africa.

744
00:39:55,627 --> 00:39:59,387
Speaker 2: Now that we've beaten India, that ticks that box. We've

745
00:39:59,427 --> 00:40:06,707
Speaker 2: beaten Sri Lanka, Australia, England, the West Indies, Bangladesh, parkerson Stan.

746
00:40:08,307 --> 00:40:11,747
Speaker 2: The only one we haven't beaten is South Africa. That

747
00:40:11,867 --> 00:40:18,187
Speaker 2: is the one unchecked box, Hi, Jason, not just win

748
00:40:18,547 --> 00:40:22,747
Speaker 2: but dominate India, not once but twice, says Peter. Best

749
00:40:22,787 --> 00:40:25,547
Speaker 2: ever performance by the black Caps over a fortnight period. Yeah,

750
00:40:25,587 --> 00:40:30,387
Speaker 2: love it, Peter and from Dave and Queenstown. This is

751
00:40:30,427 --> 00:40:32,787
Speaker 2: a massive victory for the black Caps. It's the everest

752
00:40:32,827 --> 00:40:34,427
Speaker 2: of world cricket. Not only is it the first time

753
00:40:34,507 --> 00:40:36,147
Speaker 2: won a series in India, but the first time any

754
00:40:36,187 --> 00:40:40,227
Speaker 2: country has won a series India for over four thousand days. Amazing.

755
00:40:40,307 --> 00:40:42,667
Speaker 2: I'm stoked for Saudi and Santna as well. Both showed

756
00:40:42,907 --> 00:40:45,707
Speaker 2: their experience and their skill. I'm feeling a lot more

757
00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:48,867
Speaker 2: confident now about the upcoming series against England, for sure, Dave,

758
00:40:48,907 --> 00:40:50,907
Speaker 2: I think we all are. I think we all are.

759
00:40:51,587 --> 00:40:53,067
Speaker 2: Be interesting to see what happens in the third Test

760
00:40:53,107 --> 00:40:56,027
Speaker 2: over there. Let's not forget there's another Test between India

761
00:40:56,067 --> 00:40:58,627
Speaker 2: and New Zealand to come. Series is one, but there's

762
00:40:58,627 --> 00:41:01,187
Speaker 2: a third Test. Imagine winning three knel over there, just

763
00:41:01,227 --> 00:41:04,507
Speaker 2: to make a complete joke of it. Anyway, that's all

764
00:41:04,547 --> 00:41:06,267
Speaker 2: to come. Thanks, as I say, for all of your

765
00:41:06,467 --> 00:41:08,947
Speaker 2: calls and correspondence on the cricket. Been great fun celebrating.

766
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Speaker 2: After the one o'clock news, we'll flick our attention across

767
00:41:11,547 --> 00:41:13,747
Speaker 2: to rugby. The All Black's yesterday beating Japan and the

768
00:41:13,747 --> 00:41:16,507
Speaker 2: first Test of their Northern tour assistant coach Jason Ryan

769
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Speaker 2: with us.

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00:41:18,347 --> 00:41:21,267
Speaker 1: It's the only place to discuss the biggest fours issues

771
00:41:21,347 --> 00:41:25,067
Speaker 1: on and after fields. It's all on wee Jens forward

772
00:41:25,147 --> 00:41:27,707
Speaker 1: with Jason Vane on your home of.

773
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Speaker 2: Sport Used Talks one seven. Welcome inn. This is weekend

774
00:41:32,747 --> 00:41:35,427
Speaker 2: Sport till three. I'm Jason Pine, Andy McDonald will show producer.

775
00:41:36,107 --> 00:41:39,587
Speaker 2: It'll make great to be celebrating some cricket day. What

776
00:41:39,747 --> 00:41:44,507
Speaker 2: a week to ten days, White Ferns World champions, Black

777
00:41:44,547 --> 00:41:46,827
Speaker 2: Caps doing something they've never done before. It's just so

778
00:41:46,907 --> 00:41:50,227
Speaker 2: much more pleasant, isn't it chatting about how good our

779
00:41:50,267 --> 00:41:51,947
Speaker 2: teams are? Loving it?

780
00:41:52,107 --> 00:41:52,307
Speaker 17: Long?

781
00:41:52,347 --> 00:41:57,907
Speaker 2: May it continue? All black shortly Live sport. Game two

782
00:41:57,907 --> 00:42:00,907
Speaker 2: in Baseball's World Series is today. It's about to get

783
00:42:00,987 --> 00:42:04,467
Speaker 2: under way. Actually, the La Dodgers were a one nill lead.

784
00:42:05,627 --> 00:42:07,867
Speaker 2: They beat the New York Yankees six 'y three yesterday

785
00:42:07,907 --> 00:42:11,507
Speaker 2: in Game one, the walk off home run to finish,

786
00:42:11,547 --> 00:42:14,467
Speaker 2: and he was telling me, so about to get underway

787
00:42:14,467 --> 00:42:17,227
Speaker 2: in Game two of the World Series. The World Series

788
00:42:17,867 --> 00:42:21,107
Speaker 2: just American teams, isn't it Anyway? That's a conversation for

789
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Speaker 2: another day after two o'clock. Incidentally, well, we'll jump around

790
00:42:25,667 --> 00:42:30,507
Speaker 2: some sports, football, netple rugby league, all to come after

791
00:42:30,507 --> 00:42:33,747
Speaker 2: two o'clock. Your calls and correspondents continue to be welcome

792
00:42:33,827 --> 00:42:36,107
Speaker 2: right across the afternoon. Anything that catches your ear you'd

793
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Speaker 2: like to comment on are eight hundred and eighty ten

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Speaker 2: eighty or send your text messages to nine two nine two.

795
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Speaker 20: And that's good. Out to the back line. They'd love

796
00:42:44,427 --> 00:42:47,707
Speaker 20: to finish on a high as well, but it's a

797
00:42:47,707 --> 00:42:50,027
Speaker 20: messy on the deck. Ruben Lovesender sapt to that, and

798
00:42:50,027 --> 00:42:53,307
Speaker 20: Rebend loves hit a store a second on Debu when

799
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Speaker 20: I was flats out of nowhere by the All Blacks,

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Speaker 20: and that is a full time store in Yokohama sixty.

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Speaker 18: Four nineteen.

802
00:43:05,587 --> 00:43:10,027
Speaker 17: Japan started with a hester roar, but the All Blacks

803
00:43:10,067 --> 00:43:13,587
Speaker 17: blues them away, and the All Blacks start the end

804
00:43:13,667 --> 00:43:17,467
Speaker 17: of su with a victory in Yokohama.

805
00:43:17,587 --> 00:43:20,187
Speaker 2: Yes I do, Elliott Smith with TheCall last night the

806
00:43:20,187 --> 00:43:24,267
Speaker 2: All Blacks sixty four Japan, nineteen and impress. A first

807
00:43:24,267 --> 00:43:27,067
Speaker 2: half blitz the All Black scoring seven tries, a bit

808
00:43:27,187 --> 00:43:29,667
Speaker 2: messy in the second half, but then ending on a

809
00:43:29,747 --> 00:43:32,067
Speaker 2: high Hurricane Ruben Love coming off the bench for his

810
00:43:32,187 --> 00:43:35,267
Speaker 2: test debut and scoring a couple of lake tries. All

811
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Speaker 2: Black's assistant coach Jason Ryan joins us on Weekend Sport. Jase,

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Speaker 2: what pleased you the most about the performance.

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00:43:43,267 --> 00:43:45,867
Speaker 8: Probably how you know we look at a lot of

814
00:43:45,907 --> 00:43:50,027
Speaker 8: yating guys took their opportunity. Really there's a different looking

815
00:43:50,067 --> 00:43:52,947
Speaker 8: all back team when you think about it. So I

816
00:43:52,947 --> 00:43:56,627
Speaker 8: think I think the fact that it wasn't perfect, it

817
00:43:56,747 --> 00:43:58,867
Speaker 8: was good for us as well. You know we started,

818
00:43:59,107 --> 00:44:01,667
Speaker 8: they put us on our heels, but we stayed really

819
00:44:01,667 --> 00:44:05,427
Speaker 8: composed and some young guys have really got us thinking

820
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Speaker 8: and on our and it's exciting.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: Like last time we played Japan we won by four points,

823
00:44:11,347 --> 00:44:15,747
Speaker 8: so to actually put them way away quite convincingly at

824
00:44:15,747 --> 00:44:17,147
Speaker 8: the end was pleasing.

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00:44:17,587 --> 00:44:20,187
Speaker 2: So how much pressure are some of these players who

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00:44:20,187 --> 00:44:22,947
Speaker 2: played in this test mates putting on some of the

827
00:44:22,987 --> 00:44:25,227
Speaker 2: incumbents I guess even the ones who have gone on

828
00:44:25,547 --> 00:44:26,467
Speaker 2: ahead to England.

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Speaker 8: Well, look at any any All Black you know, whether

830
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Speaker 8: not their debut, or they've played fifty odd tests, or

831
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Speaker 8: you know that they're in the single figures of test

832
00:44:36,587 --> 00:44:40,627
Speaker 8: matches that they get an opportunity. So was obviously sent

833
00:44:40,707 --> 00:44:43,147
Speaker 8: some boys to London that are over there, but we're

834
00:44:43,147 --> 00:44:46,107
Speaker 8: pretty clear on the squad. I think after tonight that

835
00:44:46,147 --> 00:44:48,547
Speaker 8: we want to pack it against England. But you know,

836
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Speaker 8: we celebrate the fact that you know, we're too new

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Speaker 8: all Blacks. That that's special on its own, and any

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00:44:54,227 --> 00:44:57,067
Speaker 8: Test winners special. But I just think with how we

839
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Speaker 8: did this week and that the pressure they put on

840
00:44:59,587 --> 00:45:03,627
Speaker 8: with selection and around multiple positions, I think it's really encouraging.

841
00:45:03,747 --> 00:45:05,267
Speaker 2: I just want to pick up on that point, Jase.

842
00:45:05,307 --> 00:45:07,747
Speaker 2: The players who have been sent on to England, I

843
00:45:07,747 --> 00:45:10,867
Speaker 2: think we can all assume they'll start next weekend. Were

844
00:45:10,907 --> 00:45:13,987
Speaker 2: you asking the players who played against Japan to put

845
00:45:14,027 --> 00:45:17,067
Speaker 2: pressure on you as selectors as you look to name

846
00:45:17,107 --> 00:45:19,547
Speaker 2: you twenty three for next weekend and for the big

847
00:45:19,587 --> 00:45:20,227
Speaker 2: Test to come.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that's a fair question. Look, yeah, we

849
00:45:23,667 --> 00:45:25,867
Speaker 8: don't say we want them to put pressure on us.

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00:45:26,067 --> 00:45:27,987
Speaker 8: We just want them to take their opportunity. Or if

851
00:45:27,987 --> 00:45:31,347
Speaker 8: we talk too much for younger guys that are trying

852
00:45:31,347 --> 00:45:33,187
Speaker 8: to find their way at the Test there or about pressure,

853
00:45:33,747 --> 00:45:35,747
Speaker 8: well that that will make them tighten up. But you know,

854
00:45:35,747 --> 00:45:37,587
Speaker 8: if you look at a few individuals, if you look

855
00:45:37,627 --> 00:45:43,747
Speaker 8: at Passilotossi, he started his first Test match as tidied today.

856
00:45:43,787 --> 00:45:47,067
Speaker 8: He went really well, Sammapenny Fee. Now I've got another

857
00:45:47,107 --> 00:45:49,987
Speaker 8: opportunity at six. He hasn't had much test foot. He

858
00:45:50,467 --> 00:45:53,347
Speaker 8: did really well. Even I suffer more, you know, like

859
00:45:53,627 --> 00:45:56,827
Speaker 8: I'm just talking the forwards point of view, but it

860
00:45:56,867 --> 00:46:00,267
Speaker 8: gets us thinking, and obviously Cam Raguard back as well

861
00:46:00,307 --> 00:46:04,547
Speaker 8: with something. Well, you know, it just makes us think

862
00:46:04,547 --> 00:46:07,587
Speaker 8: differently about our selection and make the boys understand this's

863
00:46:07,627 --> 00:46:09,427
Speaker 8: going to be a hard team to pack. And when

864
00:46:09,427 --> 00:46:12,627
Speaker 8: we get that, and when we build these guys confidence

865
00:46:12,667 --> 00:46:15,347
Speaker 8: and they get exposed to test rugby and pressure moments,

866
00:46:15,787 --> 00:46:16,507
Speaker 8: that's exciting.

867
00:46:17,187 --> 00:46:20,187
Speaker 2: How happy were you with your ship, Peace, Yeah, I

868
00:46:20,227 --> 00:46:20,707
Speaker 2: think we had.

869
00:46:21,027 --> 00:46:25,667
Speaker 8: I think we had some good moments. I think, you know,

870
00:46:25,867 --> 00:46:28,427
Speaker 8: we got some quality ball where we need it and

871
00:46:28,467 --> 00:46:30,867
Speaker 8: when we needed it. I thought Patty did a great

872
00:46:30,947 --> 00:46:33,427
Speaker 8: job during the week and calling our line out options.

873
00:46:33,827 --> 00:46:36,667
Speaker 8: For example, they obviously scored a couple of tries fast

874
00:46:36,707 --> 00:46:39,947
Speaker 8: off set piece plays that we'll need to look at

875
00:46:40,427 --> 00:46:42,307
Speaker 8: in the review. That will give us something to think

876
00:46:42,307 --> 00:46:45,307
Speaker 8: about as we head to London. But I think overall

877
00:46:46,347 --> 00:46:49,227
Speaker 8: we got the quality ball we needed. But you know,

878
00:46:49,427 --> 00:46:50,907
Speaker 8: by no means satisfied.

879
00:46:50,947 --> 00:46:54,267
Speaker 2: I guess you mentioned Patrick to Piloto there he wore

880
00:46:54,307 --> 00:46:55,987
Speaker 2: the armband of course in this one. Can you tell

881
00:46:56,027 --> 00:46:59,427
Speaker 2: us about Patrick twee Piloto's week as All Blacks captain

882
00:46:59,467 --> 00:47:00,147
Speaker 2: for the first time.

883
00:47:01,427 --> 00:47:04,747
Speaker 8: Oh, been outstanding, to be honest, that's it was a

884
00:47:04,747 --> 00:47:08,027
Speaker 8: real moment when you know, we had a conversation as coaches.

885
00:47:08,547 --> 00:47:09,947
Speaker 8: You know, we knew what was going to happen with

886
00:47:11,107 --> 00:47:14,187
Speaker 8: Scooter heating over to England early with the other boys,

887
00:47:15,107 --> 00:47:18,027
Speaker 8: and we talked around it. We're really clear who our

888
00:47:18,027 --> 00:47:20,347
Speaker 8: captain was going to be for this week, and we

889
00:47:20,427 --> 00:47:23,627
Speaker 8: let Patty know really well, really early, and you know,

890
00:47:23,707 --> 00:47:25,307
Speaker 8: right from the time raised the rung him. He was

891
00:47:25,947 --> 00:47:28,227
Speaker 8: an emotional moment for him, you know, with his family

892
00:47:28,227 --> 00:47:29,747
Speaker 8: and to lead the All Blacks and I think he's

893
00:47:29,787 --> 00:47:32,387
Speaker 8: the eighty second captain. It's not many out of twelve

894
00:47:32,467 --> 00:47:35,667
Speaker 8: hundred plus All Blacks, so he really got around the boys.

895
00:47:35,747 --> 00:47:38,107
Speaker 8: He gave them so much confidence just how he delivers

896
00:47:38,147 --> 00:47:41,987
Speaker 8: his message. His experienced All Black now and got around

897
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:45,947
Speaker 8: the younger boys and just had little conversations during the

898
00:47:45,947 --> 00:47:48,467
Speaker 8: week behind the scenes. We're not that's at dinner or

899
00:47:48,907 --> 00:47:52,627
Speaker 8: after a meeting and just helping guys out and couldn't

900
00:47:52,627 --> 00:47:55,147
Speaker 8: speak high enough, and he played exceptional well too, I thought.

901
00:47:55,267 --> 00:47:57,627
Speaker 2: Indeed indeed he did. And you talk about the twelve

902
00:47:57,667 --> 00:48:00,627
Speaker 2: hundred plus all Blacks, you added two new names All

903
00:48:00,667 --> 00:48:03,587
Speaker 2: Black twelve hundred and twenty two Peter Larkeye, All Black

904
00:48:03,587 --> 00:48:05,827
Speaker 2: twelve hundred and twenty three is Ruben Love. Couple of

905
00:48:05,827 --> 00:48:08,387
Speaker 2: tries for Reuben Love on his day? Bot. How do

906
00:48:08,427 --> 00:48:10,587
Speaker 2: you celebrate new boys in the all Blacks?

907
00:48:12,347 --> 00:48:12,547
Speaker 5: Oh?

908
00:48:12,667 --> 00:48:14,707
Speaker 8: Really special was We just had a you know, we

909
00:48:14,787 --> 00:48:17,547
Speaker 8: call it the All Black circle, and we're really grateful

910
00:48:17,547 --> 00:48:22,907
Speaker 8: that we had very metallic Aaron Smith, Dane Coles, Sam

911
00:48:22,947 --> 00:48:27,187
Speaker 8: Whitelocke in the sheds with us, and we celebrated and

912
00:48:28,427 --> 00:48:30,467
Speaker 8: Sam came presented him with his all Black tie and

913
00:48:31,107 --> 00:48:34,107
Speaker 8: to Pete he's been rooming with them all week, and then.

914
00:48:35,747 --> 00:48:35,987
Speaker 5: T J.

915
00:48:36,107 --> 00:48:39,747
Speaker 8: Perrenara presented Reuben with his So it's just great to

916
00:48:39,747 --> 00:48:43,027
Speaker 8: have those legends in the room. You know, three hundred

917
00:48:43,067 --> 00:48:47,227
Speaker 8: test all blacks. It's pretty special. And obviously Colsey he's

918
00:48:47,227 --> 00:48:48,827
Speaker 8: had a lot to do with the Saffo and that

919
00:48:48,907 --> 00:48:51,707
Speaker 8: sort of thing from Afar, So having those boys in

920
00:48:51,747 --> 00:48:53,707
Speaker 8: the shed that are over here in Japan was a

921
00:48:53,747 --> 00:48:56,627
Speaker 8: special moment. So that's a celebration. But we'll get around

922
00:48:56,627 --> 00:48:59,027
Speaker 8: them and stay in at the hotel tonight and with

923
00:48:59,187 --> 00:49:02,347
Speaker 8: an early flight to London, so we'll get around them

924
00:49:02,387 --> 00:49:04,667
Speaker 8: and have some dinner and enjoy it.

925
00:49:04,867 --> 00:49:08,067
Speaker 2: Around the sort of fifteen that mark, you brought six

926
00:49:08,107 --> 00:49:09,547
Speaker 2: players on at the same time. It looked like a

927
00:49:09,547 --> 00:49:12,107
Speaker 2: bit of a bomb squad all coming on together. Was

928
00:49:12,107 --> 00:49:14,427
Speaker 2: that always the plan to bring on multiple subs at

929
00:49:14,427 --> 00:49:15,947
Speaker 2: the same time with about half an hour ago.

930
00:49:17,627 --> 00:49:21,267
Speaker 8: Now, look, you talk about different situations that might happen

931
00:49:21,307 --> 00:49:22,867
Speaker 8: in the game, but you know, we were a point

932
00:49:23,107 --> 00:49:26,507
Speaker 8: where we're a few points up, weren't we, and we're

933
00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:29,907
Speaker 8: just like, right, let's get all the boys on. And man,

934
00:49:29,947 --> 00:49:32,267
Speaker 8: that can have its challenges at times as well, and

935
00:49:32,747 --> 00:49:34,867
Speaker 8: we probably lost a little bit of momentum, whether or

936
00:49:34,867 --> 00:49:36,947
Speaker 8: not that was through the changes or our decision making

937
00:49:36,987 --> 00:49:38,507
Speaker 8: on need to look a little bit further at that.

938
00:49:38,547 --> 00:49:41,467
Speaker 8: But you know, those boys have all trained really well,

939
00:49:41,547 --> 00:49:43,827
Speaker 8: so get them out there and get into it. You

940
00:49:43,827 --> 00:49:46,147
Speaker 8: know someone's going to be brave, and we did that,

941
00:49:46,307 --> 00:49:50,707
Speaker 8: and you know all they all had good little individual moments.

942
00:49:50,947 --> 00:49:54,787
Speaker 2: So you've used forty two players now in twenty twenty four,

943
00:49:54,827 --> 00:49:56,347
Speaker 2: and there have been a bunch of guys who played

944
00:49:56,347 --> 00:49:57,907
Speaker 2: against Japan who haven't had a heck of a lot

945
00:49:57,907 --> 00:50:00,307
Speaker 2: of opportunity up until now, and you mentioned a couple

946
00:50:00,387 --> 00:50:02,867
Speaker 2: of them before, Jase, how much of a coaching challenge

947
00:50:02,947 --> 00:50:05,707
Speaker 2: is it to manage a large group of players, all

948
00:50:05,787 --> 00:50:08,427
Speaker 2: of who want to play, but many of who will

949
00:50:08,547 --> 00:50:11,507
Speaker 2: only get limited opportunities. How challenging is that as a

950
00:50:11,507 --> 00:50:12,067
Speaker 2: coaching group.

951
00:50:13,867 --> 00:50:18,067
Speaker 8: Yeah, look, it can be if you're not upfront. It's

952
00:50:18,107 --> 00:50:20,267
Speaker 8: a challenge. If you're not upfront with him, you know,

953
00:50:21,427 --> 00:50:23,987
Speaker 8: you just can't, you know. But they know that we're

954
00:50:23,987 --> 00:50:26,387
Speaker 8: not just going to give out all black caps. You know,

955
00:50:26,507 --> 00:50:28,707
Speaker 8: we want to pick our best test team that we

956
00:50:28,787 --> 00:50:30,987
Speaker 8: think will win the test in front of us. And

957
00:50:31,507 --> 00:50:35,507
Speaker 8: they needed to train extremely well, put pressure on the

958
00:50:35,587 --> 00:50:37,947
Speaker 8: other boys during the training week. You know, they still

959
00:50:37,947 --> 00:50:40,787
Speaker 8: get opportunities at training. We review each training hard and

960
00:50:41,587 --> 00:50:44,587
Speaker 8: that sometimes life isn't all black, and well it is.

961
00:50:44,627 --> 00:50:46,667
Speaker 8: Life is an all black that you're going to get

962
00:50:46,667 --> 00:50:50,587
Speaker 8: a limited opportunitey, but when you do get it, take

963
00:50:50,627 --> 00:50:51,067
Speaker 8: your chance.

964
00:50:51,147 --> 00:50:51,307
Speaker 21: You know.

965
00:50:51,467 --> 00:50:53,667
Speaker 8: Probably an example that is have a penny fee area

966
00:50:54,387 --> 00:50:56,427
Speaker 8: bit of a you know, play two tests against England.

967
00:50:56,467 --> 00:50:58,787
Speaker 8: He knows himself and he wasn't quite where he needed

968
00:50:58,787 --> 00:51:00,907
Speaker 8: to be, and he's gone away, he put on a

969
00:51:00,907 --> 00:51:03,147
Speaker 8: bit of weight, some good size, and now he's come

970
00:51:03,147 --> 00:51:04,587
Speaker 8: back and played this Test and he should have a

971
00:51:04,587 --> 00:51:08,227
Speaker 8: lot of confidence from it. So the margins are close

972
00:51:08,507 --> 00:51:11,787
Speaker 8: and small for those players to perform at the highest

973
00:51:11,867 --> 00:51:15,347
Speaker 8: level on the world stage at Test rugby. But we

974
00:51:15,427 --> 00:51:18,587
Speaker 8: made no excuse about that because that's that's how the

975
00:51:18,627 --> 00:51:19,467
Speaker 8: All Blacks should.

976
00:51:19,267 --> 00:51:19,907
Speaker 12: Be, all right.

977
00:51:19,987 --> 00:51:22,147
Speaker 2: And the players who have gone on ahead to England,

978
00:51:22,147 --> 00:51:24,947
Speaker 2: they left before the Japan Test, what will they have

979
00:51:25,067 --> 00:51:27,347
Speaker 2: been doing before the rest of you arrive and catch

980
00:51:27,387 --> 00:51:27,707
Speaker 2: them up.

981
00:51:28,587 --> 00:51:30,387
Speaker 8: Yes, so we obviously we had a bit of a

982
00:51:30,427 --> 00:51:34,147
Speaker 8: hitdout during the week, just a bit of a training

983
00:51:34,787 --> 00:51:38,987
Speaker 8: a couple of scenarios against Panasonic, so that was really good.

984
00:51:38,987 --> 00:51:44,307
Speaker 8: And they've got a game plan effectively already that we've

985
00:51:44,307 --> 00:51:46,987
Speaker 8: been talking around, for example, put in context their line

986
00:51:46,987 --> 00:51:49,347
Speaker 8: out menu and what we sort of feel we'll run

987
00:51:49,387 --> 00:51:51,867
Speaker 8: there with with Tupoby and Scott Barretty and over there.

988
00:51:51,907 --> 00:51:53,227
Speaker 8: So they'll have a look at that. But there's no

989
00:51:53,267 --> 00:51:56,787
Speaker 8: guarantees that they are the guys that will be in

990
00:51:56,787 --> 00:51:59,067
Speaker 8: that squad either, but you know, there's a fair indication

991
00:51:59,147 --> 00:52:01,467
Speaker 8: that we're sent them there for a reason and to

992
00:52:01,507 --> 00:52:04,587
Speaker 8: get ahead of the travel that's coming up. But they

993
00:52:04,667 --> 00:52:07,147
Speaker 8: know which game we want to play. We've had leaders

994
00:52:07,187 --> 00:52:09,427
Speaker 8: meetings were needed to so that we can hit the

995
00:52:09,467 --> 00:52:12,467
Speaker 8: Northern Tour running because efectfully, we've got a four week

996
00:52:12,467 --> 00:52:15,867
Speaker 8: for England and in six days at Ireland, so they

997
00:52:15,907 --> 00:52:17,627
Speaker 8: need to be on the front foot and that's why

998
00:52:17,667 --> 00:52:21,667
Speaker 8: we did it to keep these boys. Are those boys fresh?

999
00:52:22,827 --> 00:52:24,627
Speaker 8: Three big tests, three or four big tests in a row?

1000
00:52:24,787 --> 00:52:27,587
Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, exciting times ahead for you and for

1001
00:52:27,747 --> 00:52:30,627
Speaker 2: All Blacks fans as well. Congratulations on the win over Japan. Jason,

1002
00:52:30,787 --> 00:52:31,587
Speaker 2: thanks for jetting to us.

1003
00:52:31,587 --> 00:52:33,947
Speaker 8: Safe travels, mate, no worries, Thank you.

1004
00:52:34,507 --> 00:52:36,827
Speaker 2: Thank you, Jase. Jason Ryan there, assistant coach of the

1005
00:52:36,827 --> 00:52:40,267
Speaker 2: All Blacks sixty four nineteen. Your thoughts you've heard from

1006
00:52:40,307 --> 00:52:42,747
Speaker 2: Jason Ryan. He seemed pretty happy with large parts of it.

1007
00:52:42,987 --> 00:52:46,627
Speaker 2: You know, I think really good first half, messy, scratchy, imprecise,

1008
00:52:46,707 --> 00:52:48,987
Speaker 2: second probably didn't really matter by then they did it

1009
00:52:48,987 --> 00:52:50,947
Speaker 2: And as far as the score is concerned, I know,

1010
00:52:51,027 --> 00:52:53,667
Speaker 2: we know demand perfection from the All Blacks, or we

1011
00:52:54,027 --> 00:52:56,347
Speaker 2: certainly like it when they play well and it's on

1012
00:52:56,387 --> 00:52:59,147
Speaker 2: the first half they did, oh eight one hundred and

1013
00:52:59,187 --> 00:53:03,227
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. Any observations on the All Blacks Test

1014
00:53:03,267 --> 00:53:08,187
Speaker 2: match yesterday in particular, anybody there who you thought put

1015
00:53:08,267 --> 00:53:11,667
Speaker 2: real pressure on the selectors in terms of their decision making.

1016
00:53:11,747 --> 00:53:13,787
Speaker 2: Jason Ryan said that we don't want the players to

1017
00:53:13,827 --> 00:53:17,267
Speaker 2: put pressure on us. We just want them to play well.

1018
00:53:17,507 --> 00:53:17,707
Speaker 13: Well.

1019
00:53:17,787 --> 00:53:23,987
Speaker 2: I think playing well does give the selection, the selection committee,

1020
00:53:23,987 --> 00:53:27,267
Speaker 2: the selectors, whoever is who picks the team, it does

1021
00:53:27,307 --> 00:53:31,467
Speaker 2: give them some food for thought. So who played well?

1022
00:53:32,067 --> 00:53:33,667
Speaker 2: Because we know that the guys who have gone on

1023
00:53:33,707 --> 00:53:36,267
Speaker 2: ahead are going to start next week all things being equal, right,

1024
00:53:36,347 --> 00:53:39,907
Speaker 2: even though Jason Ryan said then they're not necessarily the

1025
00:53:39,907 --> 00:53:41,627
Speaker 2: guys are going to start, you'd have to think, I mean,

1026
00:53:42,107 --> 00:53:46,427
Speaker 2: that's been sent on for a reason, so that all start.

1027
00:53:46,467 --> 00:53:49,787
Speaker 2: But who yesterday put their hand up and said, you

1028
00:53:49,827 --> 00:53:51,827
Speaker 2: know what, I should start too, or at the very

1029
00:53:51,947 --> 00:53:53,947
Speaker 2: least be in the twenty three who played well? Oh

1030
00:53:54,027 --> 00:53:55,667
Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty ten O y, who's still out

1031
00:53:55,667 --> 00:54:00,547
Speaker 2: for you when you're watching that game? Who caught your eye?

1032
00:54:02,547 --> 00:54:06,027
Speaker 2: Wallace to Titi again. He was very very good in

1033
00:54:06,067 --> 00:54:10,467
Speaker 2: the last Test against Australia and Wellington and excellent again,

1034
00:54:10,947 --> 00:54:13,067
Speaker 2: and I know there's lots of chat about what number

1035
00:54:13,107 --> 00:54:16,387
Speaker 2: he wears. He always played at number eight for the Chiefs,

1036
00:54:16,387 --> 00:54:19,867
Speaker 2: didn't they And it was just barnstorming there got the

1037
00:54:19,947 --> 00:54:23,187
Speaker 2: chance to wear the eight from the start yesterday. What

1038
00:54:23,307 --> 00:54:25,547
Speaker 2: a player he could be. Wallace to tt I thought

1039
00:54:25,547 --> 00:54:29,587
Speaker 2: he was among the best out there. I thought Billy

1040
00:54:29,627 --> 00:54:32,387
Speaker 2: Proctor was very good. I don't think he has had

1041
00:54:32,427 --> 00:54:35,787
Speaker 2: the opportunities this year that his ability and his form

1042
00:54:35,907 --> 00:54:39,747
Speaker 2: has warranted. I remember one drop ball. Otherwise pretty good though,

1043
00:54:39,787 --> 00:54:43,147
Speaker 2: scooed to try. As I said yesterday, I reckon he

1044
00:54:43,147 --> 00:54:46,187
Speaker 2: has earned at least the right to be in the

1045
00:54:46,227 --> 00:54:49,667
Speaker 2: conversation to start at thirteen over one of the next

1046
00:54:49,667 --> 00:54:52,267
Speaker 2: three weekends. It might not be England because I think

1047
00:54:52,347 --> 00:54:54,467
Speaker 2: Riko Yowani has gone ahead, so he's probably going to

1048
00:54:54,467 --> 00:55:00,227
Speaker 2: start at thirteen against England. I think Billy Proctor has

1049
00:55:00,707 --> 00:55:02,387
Speaker 2: earned the right, I reckon, to be in the conversation

1050
00:55:02,467 --> 00:55:05,467
Speaker 2: for the third end jumper against France or Island. Some

1051
00:55:05,507 --> 00:55:07,507
Speaker 2: I'm a penny fee now. Look. I think he bounced

1052
00:55:07,547 --> 00:55:10,827
Speaker 2: back really well. He was really disappointing against England in

1053
00:55:10,867 --> 00:55:13,307
Speaker 2: those first two Test matches, and off the bench against

1054
00:55:13,307 --> 00:55:15,147
Speaker 2: South Africa. What was that in joe Berg or Cape Town?

1055
00:55:15,187 --> 00:55:17,067
Speaker 2: One of the two anyway, came off the bench and

1056
00:55:18,267 --> 00:55:20,067
Speaker 2: jas Ryan again even said there you know, by his

1057
00:55:20,107 --> 00:55:22,067
Speaker 2: own admission, he wasn't where he needed to be. I

1058
00:55:22,067 --> 00:55:23,827
Speaker 2: thought some a penny for now. Had a really good

1059
00:55:23,827 --> 00:55:26,787
Speaker 2: game yesterday, showed physicality. Yes, of course it was against

1060
00:55:26,787 --> 00:55:30,427
Speaker 2: the lesser opposition, but it'll give him confidence. Patrick two

1061
00:55:30,427 --> 00:55:34,387
Speaker 2: plot two led well, scored a try, played well, a

1062
00:55:34,427 --> 00:55:36,027
Speaker 2: really special moment for him and I think Mark de

1063
00:55:36,107 --> 00:55:40,387
Speaker 2: Layer outpointed severa Reese so probably earns the right wing

1064
00:55:40,427 --> 00:55:42,427
Speaker 2: spot for next week. Caleb Clark's gone on her head

1065
00:55:42,467 --> 00:55:44,387
Speaker 2: to help play on the left wing. I think Mark

1066
00:55:44,387 --> 00:55:48,187
Speaker 2: to Layer probably outpointed sever rees yesterday. Anyone who caught

1067
00:55:48,187 --> 00:55:50,387
Speaker 2: you're right, anyone who you think has given the selector

1068
00:55:50,467 --> 00:55:53,027
Speaker 2: some food for thought or any thoughts in general on

1069
00:55:53,067 --> 00:55:56,267
Speaker 2: the Test match. It almost seems like a bit of

1070
00:55:56,307 --> 00:55:58,547
Speaker 2: a bit of an entree to the main course, doesn't it.

1071
00:55:58,587 --> 00:56:01,547
Speaker 2: Sort of one to get out of the way and

1072
00:56:01,587 --> 00:56:05,907
Speaker 2: then the big three course meal to come England, Island,

1073
00:56:05,907 --> 00:56:08,787
Speaker 2: France over the next three weekends. Can't wait back with

1074
00:56:08,867 --> 00:56:10,587
Speaker 2: your cause on the All Blacks after this one twenty

1075
00:56:10,587 --> 00:56:11,547
Speaker 2: two one Weekend Sport.

1076
00:56:12,147 --> 00:56:15,667
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1077
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1078
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1079
00:56:21,267 --> 00:56:23,867
Speaker 2: Be one twenty five. Barry on Texas Pint. We've still

1080
00:56:23,867 --> 00:56:27,307
Speaker 2: got a few problems with our bench, our historically strong

1081
00:56:27,347 --> 00:56:30,427
Speaker 2: bench not functioning the way it should be. Yeah, they

1082
00:56:30,427 --> 00:56:33,947
Speaker 2: put on six once, didn't they? Bell Talking, the Fussy

1083
00:56:34,067 --> 00:56:36,707
Speaker 2: new Lord, Larkeye and pet Nada all came on at

1084
00:56:36,747 --> 00:56:39,067
Speaker 2: the same time, didn't they? Then David Harvilly and then

1085
00:56:39,147 --> 00:56:40,707
Speaker 2: later on Rubin Love. We've got a couple of tries

1086
00:56:40,787 --> 00:56:44,347
Speaker 2: right at the end. Yeah, it felt weird, didn't it.

1087
00:56:44,347 --> 00:56:50,067
Speaker 2: It's not us. We don't bomb squad. We tend to

1088
00:56:50,347 --> 00:56:53,347
Speaker 2: bring players on as and when required. Yes, sometimes a

1089
00:56:53,347 --> 00:56:54,787
Speaker 2: couple of front rows come on at the same time.

1090
00:56:54,787 --> 00:56:56,747
Speaker 2: But to see six come on at once, it just

1091
00:56:56,747 --> 00:56:59,467
Speaker 2: didn't feel right from us. Even Jason Ryan said, you know,

1092
00:56:59,667 --> 00:57:01,627
Speaker 2: we didn't plan to do it it. Sometimes, you know,

1093
00:57:01,827 --> 00:57:05,827
Speaker 2: things happen. Yeah, I'm not sure I loved it, and

1094
00:57:06,067 --> 00:57:09,187
Speaker 2: you're right, I'm not sure we got great impact from

1095
00:57:09,187 --> 00:57:11,947
Speaker 2: our bench yesterday. Berry. Another box tick, though, was the

1096
00:57:11,947 --> 00:57:14,427
Speaker 2: return of Cam roy Guard six months out with a

1097
00:57:14,507 --> 00:57:17,107
Speaker 2: knee injury. He was back out there last night again.

1098
00:57:17,187 --> 00:57:21,507
Speaker 2: But I mean and and you know, unsurprisingly a bit scratchy.

1099
00:57:21,867 --> 00:57:23,787
Speaker 2: Had one opportunity when he had he had about six

1100
00:57:23,827 --> 00:57:25,787
Speaker 2: guys outside of didn't he and he dummed and went

1101
00:57:25,787 --> 00:57:27,307
Speaker 2: for the line and didn't make it. Luckily the All

1102
00:57:27,307 --> 00:57:29,707
Speaker 2: Black School shortly afterwards. But yeah, good to see Cam

1103
00:57:29,787 --> 00:57:32,387
Speaker 2: roy Guard back out there. How was he feeling post match?

1104
00:57:32,427 --> 00:57:33,947
Speaker 2: Here's Elliot Smith with Cam roy Guard.

1105
00:57:34,187 --> 00:57:35,547
Speaker 18: Cam how did it feel to be back out in

1106
00:57:35,667 --> 00:57:36,427
Speaker 18: All Black? Susie?

1107
00:57:37,067 --> 00:57:39,867
Speaker 21: He has alsome loved it. It was something that I

1108
00:57:39,907 --> 00:57:42,227
Speaker 21: sort of set my eyes towards when I first injured myself.

1109
00:57:42,307 --> 00:57:44,067
Speaker 21: It's probably six and a half seven months ago now,

1110
00:57:44,147 --> 00:57:47,667
Speaker 21: so fred to sort of come true sort of the

1111
00:57:47,707 --> 00:57:49,907
Speaker 21: goals that we set and to be out there tonight

1112
00:57:50,027 --> 00:57:53,147
Speaker 21: was pretty special from a personal perspective. And I guess

1113
00:57:53,147 --> 00:57:55,307
Speaker 21: to get the performance that were after with a win

1114
00:57:55,387 --> 00:57:59,267
Speaker 21: obviously is I guess pleasing as well and pretty stoked

1115
00:57:59,267 --> 00:58:01,107
Speaker 21: for Reuben and Pete to get their debuts. It was

1116
00:58:01,387 --> 00:58:03,067
Speaker 21: special week for them and it was great that they

1117
00:58:03,067 --> 00:58:05,547
Speaker 21: both went out there and sort of played their footy

1118
00:58:05,587 --> 00:58:06,227
Speaker 21: that they love to do.

1119
00:58:06,467 --> 00:58:08,107
Speaker 18: You know Roubs getting couple of trip it's pretty cool too.

1120
00:58:08,187 --> 00:58:09,667
Speaker 18: How to feel he went with the pace of the

1121
00:58:09,707 --> 00:58:11,867
Speaker 18: game and everything like that. It was good.

1122
00:58:11,947 --> 00:58:13,387
Speaker 21: I feel like it was a good test for myself

1123
00:58:13,907 --> 00:58:15,587
Speaker 21: getting back to the test level. You know, Japan liked

1124
00:58:15,587 --> 00:58:17,307
Speaker 21: to play very fast and try to get into that

1125
00:58:17,387 --> 00:58:19,467
Speaker 21: chaotic constructured the type of play, So I feel like

1126
00:58:19,507 --> 00:58:21,867
Speaker 21: that was good for I guess set me up in

1127
00:58:21,947 --> 00:58:24,547
Speaker 21: terms of that fast footy leading into I guess the

1128
00:58:24,587 --> 00:58:27,787
Speaker 21: next games, next couple of games. So yeah, from a

1129
00:58:27,787 --> 00:58:29,907
Speaker 21: personal perspective, it was good to be back out there

1130
00:58:29,907 --> 00:58:31,627
Speaker 21: and yeah, definitely felt ready for test Rugui.

1131
00:58:31,427 --> 00:58:31,867
Speaker 6: And it was good.

1132
00:58:32,667 --> 00:58:35,427
Speaker 20: Just obviously mentioned that the debuts as well. How special

1133
00:58:35,467 --> 00:58:38,187
Speaker 20: to see those two have the first all black jusis.

1134
00:58:38,067 --> 00:58:40,307
Speaker 21: Yeah, it was awesome. You know, I live with Reuben,

1135
00:58:40,427 --> 00:58:42,907
Speaker 21: so I sort of know the ends and outs of sort.

1136
00:58:42,747 --> 00:58:43,667
Speaker 18: Of how he goes about his work.

1137
00:58:43,707 --> 00:58:47,507
Speaker 21: He's a very dedicated and motivated person that has worked

1138
00:58:47,507 --> 00:58:49,267
Speaker 21: extremely hard to get to the position that he is

1139
00:58:49,307 --> 00:58:52,427
Speaker 21: in today. So it was no surprise to me that

1140
00:58:52,467 --> 00:58:53,987
Speaker 21: he was going to go out there and perform like

1141
00:58:54,027 --> 00:58:56,747
Speaker 21: he did. Playing out a position on the wing as well,

1142
00:58:56,907 --> 00:59:00,747
Speaker 21: but just the way he sort of just flitted in

1143
00:59:00,827 --> 00:59:02,747
Speaker 21: with the group and was able to sort of be himself,

1144
00:59:02,787 --> 00:59:05,347
Speaker 21: like I said, was really pleasing to watch. And he's

1145
00:59:05,347 --> 00:59:07,547
Speaker 21: someone that's, like I said, so focused and driven, so

1146
00:59:07,667 --> 00:59:09,027
Speaker 21: to see him out there with a smile on his

1147
00:59:09,107 --> 00:59:12,187
Speaker 21: face is pretty cool as well. And Pete obviously a

1148
00:59:12,187 --> 00:59:15,627
Speaker 21: little bit different getting his opportunity through injury Ben Corden,

1149
00:59:15,827 --> 00:59:18,387
Speaker 21: you know, only just last week, so so we're having

1150
00:59:18,427 --> 00:59:20,307
Speaker 21: a little bit quicker for him, but we obviously know

1151
00:59:20,347 --> 00:59:22,947
Speaker 21: how well he goes through playing with him at the Hurricanes,

1152
00:59:22,987 --> 00:59:25,587
Speaker 21: you know, the ability to play seven and eight and

1153
00:59:25,667 --> 00:59:29,227
Speaker 21: slipping as he has be himself and look like he's

1154
00:59:29,227 --> 00:59:31,547
Speaker 21: been playing, you know, forever, so at this level. So

1155
00:59:31,627 --> 00:59:34,427
Speaker 21: it's ready please of both of them and obviously the

1156
00:59:34,467 --> 00:59:35,267
Speaker 21: other Hurricanes boys.

1157
00:59:35,307 --> 00:59:36,547
Speaker 18: It was awesome to be back out.

1158
00:59:36,387 --> 00:59:36,707
Speaker 16: There with him.

1159
00:59:36,747 --> 00:59:36,947
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1160
00:59:36,947 --> 00:59:38,707
Speaker 2: Good to have cam roy Guard back out there as well.

1161
00:59:38,747 --> 00:59:41,147
Speaker 2: So he's given the selectors a bit of thinking to

1162
00:59:41,187 --> 00:59:43,027
Speaker 2: go around that half back spot for next week. I

1163
00:59:43,027 --> 00:59:45,667
Speaker 2: think at the very least he'll be in the twenty three,

1164
00:59:45,787 --> 00:59:48,707
Speaker 2: won't he cam roy Guard what he showed there against England.

1165
00:59:48,747 --> 00:59:50,987
Speaker 2: I guess it just depends on which way they want

1166
00:59:51,027 --> 00:59:54,107
Speaker 2: to go with Cortes, Laptima, t J pett Andata and

1167
00:59:54,867 --> 00:59:57,467
Speaker 2: Cam Roy guard with the half back spots. Elliot Smith

1168
00:59:57,467 --> 00:59:59,507
Speaker 2: has just sent through an interview he's done with Scott

1169
00:59:59,587 --> 01:00:02,507
Speaker 2: Robertson as well at the airport, just as the All

1170
01:00:02,547 --> 01:00:04,547
Speaker 2: Blacks are about to fly out for the UK. So

1171
01:00:04,787 --> 01:00:06,027
Speaker 2: here's Elliott with Razor.

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Speaker 20: Just firstly with your thoughts again on last night and

1173
01:00:09,187 --> 01:00:11,107
Speaker 20: how it set you up for the next few weeks.

1174
01:00:11,547 --> 01:00:15,867
Speaker 22: Yeah, reflect back and it's increding. Great moments and in

1175
01:00:15,947 --> 01:00:17,947
Speaker 22: the game, wasn't it And there was there are times

1176
01:00:17,947 --> 01:00:20,987
Speaker 22: we couldn't build pressure in the second half and they

1177
01:00:21,027 --> 01:00:22,867
Speaker 22: came back. He had the ball for long periods of time.

1178
01:00:23,547 --> 01:00:26,547
Speaker 22: Japan a good team there. They were big, they're physical

1179
01:00:26,627 --> 01:00:31,787
Speaker 22: and had their moments and really proud of defense. A

1180
01:00:31,827 --> 01:00:35,267
Speaker 22: lot of the time. We did a lot of covering tackles,

1181
01:00:36,347 --> 01:00:39,267
Speaker 22: strong set piece and really good stuff and don't work

1182
01:00:39,267 --> 01:00:40,067
Speaker 22: on areas as normal.

1183
01:00:40,187 --> 01:00:41,867
Speaker 18: Everyone's come through on scales injury wise.

1184
01:00:42,907 --> 01:00:46,547
Speaker 22: Yeah, we're good. We're clean, Bill, So if one is

1185
01:00:46,547 --> 01:00:48,827
Speaker 22: good that no one's coming and there's no messages on

1186
01:00:48,907 --> 01:00:51,347
Speaker 22: the the what'sapps, that's.

1187
01:00:51,187 --> 01:00:53,987
Speaker 20: Good squad updates. You obviously have three players left behind

1188
01:00:54,027 --> 01:00:56,667
Speaker 20: in New Zealm. What's the latest on on those three?

1189
01:00:57,987 --> 01:01:00,627
Speaker 22: Look, Jack Maison won't be joining us with the thumb

1190
01:01:00,827 --> 01:01:03,507
Speaker 22: army set operation on it. The other two pushing at

1191
01:01:03,507 --> 01:01:06,027
Speaker 22: the moment. See if they're going to be available for

1192
01:01:06,427 --> 01:01:08,707
Speaker 22: host Ireland French game.

1193
01:01:08,827 --> 01:01:11,587
Speaker 18: It's the last two weeks that Dalton and Ethan might

1194
01:01:11,627 --> 01:01:12,267
Speaker 18: be able to join you.

1195
01:01:12,347 --> 01:01:14,947
Speaker 22: Yeah, sorry you give your names? Dalton and Ethan. Yeah,

1196
01:01:15,227 --> 01:01:18,707
Speaker 22: looking on track to be either for Ireland or France available.

1197
01:01:18,907 --> 01:01:21,067
Speaker 18: So does Peter like I stay with the squad? Yes,

1198
01:01:21,107 --> 01:01:24,107
Speaker 18: he does coreat you know when I was joining all.

1199
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Speaker 2: Staying We will keep.

1200
01:01:28,307 --> 01:01:32,027
Speaker 22: Lordie. He'll stay with us just until we make sure.

1201
01:01:32,107 --> 01:01:33,787
Speaker 22: We'll make you a call on the other two loose forwards.

1202
01:01:33,787 --> 01:01:34,827
Speaker 22: Who's the best one to come over?

1203
01:01:36,147 --> 01:01:38,387
Speaker 20: Jordy Barrett has he tracking? Obviously didn't play you still

1204
01:01:38,387 --> 01:01:40,707
Speaker 20: they send him over early? Haven't seen him playing the

1205
01:01:40,787 --> 01:01:41,547
Speaker 20: rugby in a wee while.

1206
01:01:42,107 --> 01:01:44,307
Speaker 22: Look, he's trained well with us training a high level,

1207
01:01:44,747 --> 01:01:48,987
Speaker 22: good intensity, he's kicking the ball well. He he's available

1208
01:01:48,987 --> 01:01:49,547
Speaker 22: for selection.

1209
01:01:50,307 --> 01:01:52,227
Speaker 18: A big boost obviously having him back in the in

1210
01:01:52,227 --> 01:01:52,467
Speaker 18: the mix.

1211
01:01:52,707 --> 01:01:53,947
Speaker 22: It gives your depth to the squad and a lot

1212
01:01:53,947 --> 01:01:55,027
Speaker 22: of experience.

1213
01:01:56,227 --> 01:01:58,467
Speaker 20: Before on England. Obviously send them twice early on in

1214
01:01:58,547 --> 01:02:00,147
Speaker 20: the season. What do you expect from them? They haven't

1215
01:02:00,147 --> 01:02:02,027
Speaker 20: played since obviously, what do you expect from they're talking

1216
01:02:02,027 --> 01:02:02,187
Speaker 20: to them?

1217
01:02:02,187 --> 01:02:03,867
Speaker 22: Oh, look, you know they're obviously still be mech fit.

1218
01:02:04,467 --> 01:02:06,667
Speaker 22: You know their parts are playing in the pimanship, great

1219
01:02:06,707 --> 01:02:12,667
Speaker 22: camp and you know they'll be ready. They've been under

1220
01:02:12,667 --> 01:02:16,387
Speaker 22: Steve for a while now. It seems a long time

1221
01:02:16,387 --> 01:02:18,467
Speaker 22: ago since we've paid them. A lot can have been

1222
01:02:18,467 --> 01:02:22,747
Speaker 22: in between the look, we're playing good footy. They they

1223
01:02:22,787 --> 01:02:24,547
Speaker 22: are paying a little bit more foot than their head before,

1224
01:02:24,547 --> 01:02:25,667
Speaker 22: so it can be exciting week.

1225
01:02:25,827 --> 01:02:27,587
Speaker 20: How do you feel you've grown as a squad since

1226
01:02:27,827 --> 01:02:30,187
Speaker 20: that series way back in the July lot.

1227
01:02:30,227 --> 01:02:33,867
Speaker 22: We've been on tour a few times, We've experienced some

1228
01:02:35,387 --> 01:02:40,907
Speaker 22: different environments. You know, we're a lot more connected and

1229
01:02:40,987 --> 01:02:43,707
Speaker 22: understanding of our game. So yeah, look we're in a

1230
01:02:43,747 --> 01:02:44,147
Speaker 22: good spot.

1231
01:02:44,467 --> 01:02:47,907
Speaker 2: That is Scott Robertson speaking with Elliott Smith a short

1232
01:02:47,907 --> 01:02:49,787
Speaker 2: time ago, just before they all hopped on the plane

1233
01:02:49,827 --> 01:02:53,187
Speaker 2: to get to the UK. So next Sunday morning, four

1234
01:02:53,187 --> 01:02:56,947
Speaker 2: o'clock New Zealand time, all Blacks England at Twickenham. I

1235
01:02:56,947 --> 01:03:00,587
Speaker 2: think we can have a fairly a fairly assured guest

1236
01:03:00,627 --> 01:03:02,347
Speaker 2: at the team, can't we so no ethan to group

1237
01:03:02,387 --> 01:03:04,387
Speaker 2: we heard there, so you think to mighty Williams will

1238
01:03:04,667 --> 01:03:07,187
Speaker 2: wear the one jersey so to be him, Cody Taylor,

1239
01:03:07,227 --> 01:03:10,867
Speaker 2: Tyrell Lomax, Scott Barrett to Porvaii, I'd say Wallace Stiti

1240
01:03:10,947 --> 01:03:13,587
Speaker 2: will probably go back to six, Sam Canes, seven, Arty

1241
01:03:13,627 --> 01:03:16,787
Speaker 2: sav eight. Interesting what they do at halfback, that's probably

1242
01:03:16,787 --> 01:03:18,587
Speaker 2: one of the bigger questions. Boden bar it will be

1243
01:03:18,667 --> 01:03:21,267
Speaker 2: first five. Jeordi Barrett, by the sounds of it, is

1244
01:03:21,307 --> 01:03:24,187
Speaker 2: fit for selection. So he and Ricco You're one in midfield,

1245
01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:26,467
Speaker 2: Caleb Clark on the left, I'd say Mark Talaya on

1246
01:03:26,467 --> 01:03:28,427
Speaker 2: the right, and then Will Jordan at fullback. That feels

1247
01:03:28,427 --> 01:03:31,787
Speaker 2: like the team to me. Maybe they'll mix and match

1248
01:03:31,827 --> 01:03:35,307
Speaker 2: around in the bench positions, but otherwise I think it's

1249
01:03:35,347 --> 01:03:38,907
Speaker 2: a fairly straightforward selection for Scott Robertson and others to

1250
01:03:38,947 --> 01:03:42,227
Speaker 2: make ahead of the England Test. Four o'clock next Sunday morning.

1251
01:03:42,227 --> 01:03:44,307
Speaker 2: We'll have a full life commentary with Elliott and Gregor

1252
01:03:44,307 --> 01:03:46,507
Speaker 2: Paul here on News Talks here b twenty eight to

1253
01:03:46,507 --> 01:03:50,667
Speaker 2: two weekends for it rugby League doubleheader in christ Church

1254
01:03:50,707 --> 01:03:54,427
Speaker 2: today Pacific Championship kee We Ferns Jill ARUs that's at

1255
01:03:54,427 --> 01:03:56,027
Speaker 2: three thirty five and then the key weis play the

1256
01:03:56,107 --> 01:03:58,507
Speaker 2: Kangaroo's at five past six. Give us it's a Griffin

1257
01:03:58,627 --> 01:03:59,427
Speaker 2: name name.

1258
01:04:05,387 --> 01:04:05,587
Speaker 23: Name.

1259
01:04:06,507 --> 01:04:08,307
Speaker 2: What's the s for New Zealand.

1260
01:04:11,907 --> 01:04:14,387
Speaker 3: It's a record went over Australia.

1261
01:04:13,907 --> 01:04:19,907
Speaker 2: For New Zealand. Thanks thirty points to Neil. Yeah, that

1262
01:04:20,027 --> 01:04:22,907
Speaker 2: was the final last year. Thirty nerl at New Zealand

1263
01:04:22,907 --> 01:04:25,187
Speaker 2: Betting Australia. Joseph tupp And he was on that side

1264
01:04:25,227 --> 01:04:27,587
Speaker 2: and will again be a part of the Kiwi side tonight.

1265
01:04:28,027 --> 01:04:31,187
Speaker 2: He joins us. Now, Joseph, that's thirty nil one. What

1266
01:04:31,347 --> 01:04:33,267
Speaker 2: went so well for the Kiwis that day?

1267
01:04:34,667 --> 01:04:37,467
Speaker 16: I think we just took back to basics. Training that

1268
01:04:37,507 --> 01:04:41,347
Speaker 16: week was all, you know, it was pretty light. It

1269
01:04:41,387 --> 01:04:43,987
Speaker 16: was all in the head, so we kind of refreshed.

1270
01:04:45,107 --> 01:04:47,467
Speaker 2: And as far as when the game's been played out

1271
01:04:47,747 --> 01:04:51,267
Speaker 2: and the score starting to mount, I mean you're playing Australia,

1272
01:04:51,307 --> 01:04:54,067
Speaker 2: who have been your toughest adversary for a long time.

1273
01:04:54,307 --> 01:04:55,947
Speaker 2: What's the feeling is the points start to matt and

1274
01:04:55,987 --> 01:04:57,827
Speaker 2: you think, hey, something pretty special is happening here.

1275
01:04:58,387 --> 01:05:01,307
Speaker 16: Yeah, one hundred percent. I wasn't really comfortable to the

1276
01:05:01,347 --> 01:05:05,787
Speaker 16: last probably fifteen minutes because you know, as you have

1277
01:05:05,907 --> 01:05:10,667
Speaker 16: quality through the park, so you just stay in there grind. Luckily,

1278
01:05:10,947 --> 01:05:13,547
Speaker 16: you know, we kept them to nil, and the any

1279
01:05:13,547 --> 01:05:14,787
Speaker 16: thing is we've got to back it up this year

1280
01:05:14,787 --> 01:05:15,067
Speaker 16: as well.

1281
01:05:15,147 --> 01:05:16,907
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess with have been so long ago,

1282
01:05:17,147 --> 01:05:19,387
Speaker 2: is there any way you can take momentum from that

1283
01:05:19,467 --> 01:05:22,147
Speaker 2: game into twenty twenty four or are we really just

1284
01:05:22,187 --> 01:05:23,627
Speaker 2: talking about a clean slate here?

1285
01:05:24,787 --> 01:05:27,147
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's pretty hard fast Qui Boys because we didn't

1286
01:05:27,147 --> 01:05:30,707
Speaker 16: really get the opportunity to play Reverybody as much they

1287
01:05:30,707 --> 01:05:34,307
Speaker 16: get Origins and and stuff like that, so it's pretty

1288
01:05:34,307 --> 01:05:37,427
Speaker 16: hard to build commos for us. But with injury as

1289
01:05:37,427 --> 01:05:38,867
Speaker 16: well this year, it's been it's going to be a

1290
01:05:38,907 --> 01:05:41,267
Speaker 16: pretty tough slog. But yeah, it's pretty clean. I think

1291
01:05:41,547 --> 01:05:42,907
Speaker 16: it's going to be a lot of changes to the

1292
01:05:42,907 --> 01:05:45,427
Speaker 16: squad and yeah, we've just got to stuff from the

1293
01:05:45,467 --> 01:05:46,467
Speaker 16: beginning and it's tough of that.

1294
01:05:46,747 --> 01:05:48,427
Speaker 2: Do you find when you get together with the Kiwi

1295
01:05:48,427 --> 01:05:51,747
Speaker 2: Boys that those connections and the cohesion is pretty quickly

1296
01:05:51,787 --> 01:05:53,547
Speaker 2: found again though, yeah.

1297
01:05:53,387 --> 01:05:56,027
Speaker 16: One hundred percent. You know, we've got the same kind

1298
01:05:56,067 --> 01:05:58,707
Speaker 16: of humor, so so we kind of we bond really quickly.

1299
01:05:59,227 --> 01:06:01,987
Speaker 16: But you know, when you go back to nrour level,

1300
01:06:02,027 --> 01:06:04,307
Speaker 16: everyone's at the same plays, just different names, so it's

1301
01:06:04,307 --> 01:06:08,067
Speaker 16: pretty pretty easy to kind of it together. But you know,

1302
01:06:08,187 --> 01:06:10,507
Speaker 16: enjoying your time in camp is a huge part of

1303
01:06:10,507 --> 01:06:12,067
Speaker 16: of being in these camps as well.

1304
01:06:12,387 --> 01:06:15,387
Speaker 2: How much of a leadership responsibility do you feel in

1305
01:06:15,427 --> 01:06:16,507
Speaker 2: this key we side.

1306
01:06:17,427 --> 01:06:19,987
Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I'm lucky to be a part of the

1307
01:06:20,027 --> 01:06:25,027
Speaker 16: leadership group, And like Fisher, I don't talk as much,

1308
01:06:25,027 --> 01:06:27,747
Speaker 16: but I like leading the action, so you know, I

1309
01:06:27,867 --> 01:06:30,547
Speaker 16: take the responsibility and I try to do that every performance.

1310
01:06:30,787 --> 01:06:32,787
Speaker 2: I say, it was announced to the at the Raiders

1311
01:06:32,827 --> 01:06:35,587
Speaker 2: Prize giving you're going to be full time skipper next year.

1312
01:06:35,827 --> 01:06:37,547
Speaker 2: You're filled on a couple of times or more than

1313
01:06:37,547 --> 01:06:39,667
Speaker 2: a couple of times already. Do you feel like you're

1314
01:06:39,667 --> 01:06:41,867
Speaker 2: going to have to use use a few more words

1315
01:06:41,907 --> 01:06:44,347
Speaker 2: next year or it'll still be mainly your actions?

1316
01:06:44,387 --> 01:06:47,947
Speaker 16: You lead by no, I think both. You know, my

1317
01:06:47,987 --> 01:06:51,667
Speaker 16: actions speak louder than words, but you know I still

1318
01:06:51,707 --> 01:06:56,827
Speaker 16: have a saying Yeah. Obviously I was learning through off

1319
01:06:56,867 --> 01:06:59,307
Speaker 16: the back of Elliot and you know, talking to four

1320
01:06:59,347 --> 01:07:01,667
Speaker 16: Games and stuff like that, so I just got to

1321
01:07:01,787 --> 01:07:04,347
Speaker 16: keep building on that. But I'm really excited. It's been

1322
01:07:04,387 --> 01:07:07,667
Speaker 16: a huge goal of mine and you know it's I

1323
01:07:07,667 --> 01:07:09,867
Speaker 16: hope to take my game to another little Well.

1324
01:07:09,747 --> 01:07:12,067
Speaker 2: It's been at a really good level this year. You

1325
01:07:12,107 --> 01:07:15,307
Speaker 2: played every game, delim Team of the Year, Raiders Player

1326
01:07:15,347 --> 01:07:18,747
Speaker 2: of the Year again, third straight season, two hundred NURL appearances.

1327
01:07:18,787 --> 01:07:20,227
Speaker 2: You brought up, how do you reflect on the last

1328
01:07:20,227 --> 01:07:21,067
Speaker 2: six months?

1329
01:07:21,707 --> 01:07:26,507
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's been huge, I think huge respective when I

1330
01:07:26,547 --> 01:07:30,027
Speaker 16: had my daughter. She's her, My wife is such a

1331
01:07:30,067 --> 01:07:32,987
Speaker 16: huge drive for me, and you know she's coming on

1332
01:07:34,027 --> 01:07:39,467
Speaker 16: two next year, so you know that's reasons to play

1333
01:07:39,467 --> 01:07:41,707
Speaker 16: harder and you know, be a bit of player, bit

1334
01:07:41,747 --> 01:07:42,267
Speaker 16: of provider.

1335
01:07:42,627 --> 01:07:44,107
Speaker 2: Do you find it gives you a balance as well,

1336
01:07:44,107 --> 01:07:46,187
Speaker 2: because I'm sure she doesn't care about the result.

1337
01:07:46,947 --> 01:07:49,827
Speaker 16: Nah, that's that's a huge balance. After a loss, I

1338
01:07:49,827 --> 01:07:52,147
Speaker 16: look for her in the crowd and it brings back

1339
01:07:52,187 --> 01:07:54,547
Speaker 16: perspective and you know it's only a game of footy

1340
01:07:54,627 --> 01:07:56,947
Speaker 16: and you know there's bigger things in my life.

1341
01:07:57,147 --> 01:07:59,387
Speaker 2: You guys came home pretty pretty strong, three straight wins

1342
01:07:59,427 --> 01:08:01,627
Speaker 2: to end the season, but but missing the eight on

1343
01:08:01,707 --> 01:08:04,227
Speaker 2: points differential. How gutting was that for you guys?

1344
01:08:04,587 --> 01:08:07,827
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's uh, it's pretty you know, heartbreaking knowing that,

1345
01:08:07,947 --> 01:08:11,627
Speaker 16: you know, especially their quality sides, that our team have

1346
01:08:11,747 --> 01:08:15,267
Speaker 16: the ability to win, but probably not the consistency this year,

1347
01:08:15,307 --> 01:08:18,347
Speaker 16: and there'll be a big focus point next year in

1348
01:08:18,627 --> 01:08:23,507
Speaker 16: our consistent performances and you know, trying to minimize those blowouts.

1349
01:08:24,027 --> 01:08:27,307
Speaker 2: And just back to the Kiwis again, lots of chat

1350
01:08:27,347 --> 01:08:30,587
Speaker 2: about how international rugby league can become a bit more

1351
01:08:30,587 --> 01:08:33,507
Speaker 2: relevant and amongst a packed in URL season state of origin.

1352
01:08:33,547 --> 01:08:36,027
Speaker 2: As you mentioned before, I heard Chance nicol Klok start

1353
01:08:36,067 --> 01:08:38,307
Speaker 2: earlier this week say you know that he'd like the

1354
01:08:38,387 --> 01:08:40,347
Speaker 2: key we used to be together more. Do you share

1355
01:08:40,387 --> 01:08:42,187
Speaker 2: those sentiments? Would you like to see you know, more

1356
01:08:42,187 --> 01:08:44,347
Speaker 2: opportunities for test rugby league.

1357
01:08:44,587 --> 01:08:47,187
Speaker 16: Yeah, one hundred percent. I think that's because that's out

1358
01:08:47,227 --> 01:08:49,667
Speaker 16: in the core of our game and to get those

1359
01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:52,827
Speaker 16: opportunities to play and be amongst our boys, like I

1360
01:08:52,867 --> 01:08:54,427
Speaker 16: think it used to be like the anti Tests, and

1361
01:08:54,507 --> 01:08:57,107
Speaker 16: that is huge for us. You know, we have to

1362
01:08:57,147 --> 01:09:00,507
Speaker 16: sit back and watch in origins and it's a huge

1363
01:09:00,507 --> 01:09:03,387
Speaker 16: part of NRL's origin. It's probably the biggest part. But

1364
01:09:04,027 --> 01:09:07,027
Speaker 16: you know, we just want to equal opportunity to represent

1365
01:09:07,147 --> 01:09:10,307
Speaker 16: our country and get those high quality games.

1366
01:09:10,467 --> 01:09:12,307
Speaker 2: But the way it does now, I mean, you play

1367
01:09:12,347 --> 01:09:15,787
Speaker 2: every game right and in a physically demanding sport and

1368
01:09:15,827 --> 01:09:19,787
Speaker 2: in a physically demanding position within that sport, that must

1369
01:09:19,787 --> 01:09:21,427
Speaker 2: take a huge toll on your body, does it?

1370
01:09:22,587 --> 01:09:22,787
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1371
01:09:22,827 --> 01:09:23,187
Speaker 6: It does?

1372
01:09:23,307 --> 01:09:26,947
Speaker 16: But you know, I think these days everyone is so professional.

1373
01:09:28,907 --> 01:09:33,947
Speaker 16: But yeah, we get a good break after. But you know,

1374
01:09:33,987 --> 01:09:36,227
Speaker 16: when Keywis come up, I'm always excited to get in camp.

1375
01:09:36,307 --> 01:09:38,507
Speaker 16: So it doesn't really matter. My body might have a

1376
01:09:38,507 --> 01:09:42,347
Speaker 16: little bumps and bruises in it, but yeah, people like

1377
01:09:42,547 --> 01:09:45,227
Speaker 16: you know, people like Penriffin have been in the Grand

1378
01:09:45,227 --> 01:09:49,187
Speaker 16: finals last four or five years. Their bodies must.

1379
01:09:48,827 --> 01:09:50,667
Speaker 14: Be worth Yeah.

1380
01:09:50,707 --> 01:09:52,547
Speaker 2: All right mate, Well we're looking forward to seeing you

1381
01:09:52,547 --> 01:09:55,067
Speaker 2: with the Kiwis for the upcoming Pacific Championship. Joe, thanks

1382
01:09:55,107 --> 01:09:56,787
Speaker 2: for taking the time for a chat and all the best, mate,

1383
01:09:56,867 --> 01:09:59,587
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Joe. Joseph tappany there who were

1384
01:09:59,587 --> 01:10:03,787
Speaker 2: a thirteen jumper in the Pacific Championship match against Australia.

1385
01:10:03,787 --> 01:10:07,227
Speaker 2: Tonight five past six of the Apollo Projects aman christ Church.

1386
01:10:07,747 --> 01:10:10,067
Speaker 2: The early game or the first game is the Key

1387
01:10:10,107 --> 01:10:12,147
Speaker 2: We Ferns up against the Jill Rouse that's underway at

1388
01:10:12,147 --> 01:10:14,987
Speaker 2: three thirty five. Sold out down there in christ Church,

1389
01:10:15,067 --> 01:10:18,227
Speaker 2: so good support for the Rugby League down in the

1390
01:10:18,227 --> 01:10:20,667
Speaker 2: Garden City twenty one to two. Let's take a break,

1391
01:10:20,667 --> 01:10:23,467
Speaker 2: come back and have a regular catch up with James mcconey.

1392
01:10:23,867 --> 01:10:28,667
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1395
01:10:33,587 --> 01:10:37,427
Speaker 2: MB eighteen away from to this time every Sunday or

1396
01:10:37,467 --> 01:10:39,427
Speaker 2: around about this time every Sunday, we get the pleasure

1397
01:10:39,427 --> 01:10:41,587
Speaker 2: of the company of James mcconey. James, I had a

1398
01:10:41,667 --> 01:10:44,267
Speaker 2: dream last night that Mitchell Santona got thirteen wickets and

1399
01:10:44,267 --> 01:10:46,547
Speaker 2: then you turned up on the radio to talk about it.

1400
01:10:47,267 --> 01:10:49,347
Speaker 6: I know, you know it's all come true, Poney. You

1401
01:10:50,387 --> 01:10:52,267
Speaker 6: your biggest dreams have come true.

1402
01:10:53,347 --> 01:10:54,227
Speaker 2: What about that?

1403
01:10:55,187 --> 01:10:57,627
Speaker 6: Well, I know that's the whole thing is. It's not

1404
01:10:57,667 --> 01:11:00,227
Speaker 6: just a dream. It should be a movie, because talk

1405
01:11:00,267 --> 01:11:03,187
Speaker 6: about a ragtag team of misfits, you know, a new

1406
01:11:03,267 --> 01:11:07,147
Speaker 6: captain probably not that many superstars, I mean, ratching might

1407
01:11:07,227 --> 01:11:09,907
Speaker 6: end up being an all time great. Tim Sauvie, you know,

1408
01:11:10,027 --> 01:11:11,787
Speaker 6: getting a bit long in the tooth and that's not

1409
01:11:11,827 --> 01:11:14,667
Speaker 6: even a to teeth joke for him, but just the

1410
01:11:14,787 --> 01:11:18,907
Speaker 6: team that just bonded together and with Mitchell Satner, I

1411
01:11:18,907 --> 01:11:21,307
Speaker 6: think they call it in the flow state, or feeling

1412
01:11:21,387 --> 01:11:25,187
Speaker 6: himself in the modern parlance, piny. Yeah, there's an all

1413
01:11:25,187 --> 01:11:28,587
Speaker 6: time performance. He's had his Doug Bracewl and Hobart test

1414
01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:29,107
Speaker 6: right there.

1415
01:11:29,427 --> 01:11:31,227
Speaker 2: Don't you think it's great though, that he that he

1416
01:11:31,507 --> 01:11:35,587
Speaker 2: is so understated in his celebrations. I mentioned before I

1417
01:11:35,627 --> 01:11:37,227
Speaker 2: saw a great one on social that when he got

1418
01:11:37,267 --> 01:11:39,827
Speaker 2: virak Coli out, he celebrated like a guy. Just remember

1419
01:11:39,867 --> 01:11:40,867
Speaker 2: where his khakis were.

1420
01:11:41,867 --> 01:11:44,147
Speaker 6: Yeah, well he looks like the villain out of Despicable Me.

1421
01:11:44,347 --> 01:11:47,907
Speaker 6: Is it grew or grew anyway? He's a little bit hunchbacked.

1422
01:11:47,987 --> 01:11:51,827
Speaker 6: He sort of he wanders around and just doesn't seem

1423
01:11:51,867 --> 01:11:53,827
Speaker 6: to raise a sweat. But I think when he got

1424
01:11:53,827 --> 01:11:56,347
Speaker 6: that run out, you could just see how well he

1425
01:11:56,507 --> 01:12:00,627
Speaker 6: was playing the game, and the loop and dip that

1426
01:12:00,707 --> 01:12:02,947
Speaker 6: he provided was perfect for that pitch, and I think

1427
01:12:02,947 --> 01:12:06,667
Speaker 6: that was the perfect setting for Satna. Sometimes you probably

1428
01:12:06,747 --> 01:12:08,907
Speaker 6: think when he's picked in those home tests that we

1429
01:12:08,907 --> 01:12:10,787
Speaker 6: should have a spin of that turns the ball more.

1430
01:12:10,827 --> 01:12:14,987
Speaker 6: But honestly, over there he is perfect for those conditions.

1431
01:12:15,027 --> 01:12:19,667
Speaker 6: Great fielder and with that variation, but this is the

1432
01:12:19,667 --> 01:12:23,067
Speaker 6: whole thing he's third on the all time list now paddles.

1433
01:12:23,187 --> 01:12:25,347
Speaker 6: The great Sir Richard Hadley is number one with that

1434
01:12:25,627 --> 01:12:29,627
Speaker 6: those fifteen wickets in Brisbane. Of course, Ajas Patal is

1435
01:12:29,707 --> 01:12:32,307
Speaker 6: number two with fourteen wickets and ten in one innings.

1436
01:12:32,307 --> 01:12:34,547
Speaker 6: Of course there was a Test that black Caps lost,

1437
01:12:34,987 --> 01:12:39,747
Speaker 6: but to get those standing wickets in a historic series

1438
01:12:39,827 --> 01:12:43,587
Speaker 6: win in India, it's it's right up there with one

1439
01:12:43,587 --> 01:12:47,147
Speaker 6: of the greatest individual performances in any code for New Zealand.

1440
01:12:47,267 --> 01:12:50,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally agree, totally agree. It says, Yeah, it's a

1441
01:12:50,347 --> 01:12:52,867
Speaker 2: good analogy with Doug Bracewell and Hobart because he'll ay

1442
01:12:52,987 --> 01:12:55,227
Speaker 2: always be remembered for that. Hopefully there's more to come

1443
01:12:55,227 --> 01:12:58,347
Speaker 2: from Mitchell Santna, but yeah, he'll always have He'll always

1444
01:12:58,387 --> 01:12:59,147
Speaker 2: have poone.

1445
01:13:00,027 --> 01:13:02,187
Speaker 6: He will always have poone. And you know what, like

1446
01:13:02,707 --> 01:13:06,627
Speaker 6: the way that I think the black Caps really sort

1447
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:10,827
Speaker 6: of fit together well as a team. It just feels

1448
01:13:10,867 --> 01:13:13,987
Speaker 6: like a team, you know, doesn't seem to be many egos.

1449
01:13:14,027 --> 01:13:17,547
Speaker 6: It's just a really nice team to watch. And for

1450
01:13:18,067 --> 01:13:20,067
Speaker 6: Tom Latham, he's going to take a bow as well.

1451
01:13:20,147 --> 01:13:22,667
Speaker 6: It's an incredible series as captain.

1452
01:13:22,787 --> 01:13:26,307
Speaker 2: Absolutely right. Okay, let's go to the All Blacks. We're

1453
01:13:26,387 --> 01:13:28,547
Speaker 2: up a sort of There's quite a bit going on

1454
01:13:28,307 --> 01:13:31,307
Speaker 2: on screen on screen yesterday, so I sort of flipping

1455
01:13:31,307 --> 01:13:34,067
Speaker 2: between All Blacks, Black Caps and a little bit of

1456
01:13:34,067 --> 01:13:36,307
Speaker 2: Wellington Phoenix and other a league and that sort of

1457
01:13:36,307 --> 01:13:38,867
Speaker 2: thing as well. Did you take much away from the

1458
01:13:40,427 --> 01:13:42,547
Speaker 2: rather lopsided scoreline against.

1459
01:13:42,347 --> 01:13:46,107
Speaker 6: Japan, Well, piney, We haven't pretty prepared this. We just

1460
01:13:46,547 --> 01:13:48,547
Speaker 6: talked to each other on Sunday. I mean, I take

1461
01:13:48,587 --> 01:13:50,187
Speaker 6: some notes. But one thing I'd like you to do

1462
01:13:50,267 --> 01:13:52,307
Speaker 6: is think of who you think the most impressive All

1463
01:13:52,347 --> 01:13:56,547
Speaker 6: Black the season has been first name, last name, and

1464
01:13:56,627 --> 01:13:59,307
Speaker 6: on the count of three, will both say his name? Okay, okay,

1465
01:13:59,467 --> 01:14:01,987
Speaker 6: yep one two three?

1466
01:14:02,187 --> 01:14:04,627
Speaker 2: Wall was a tt correct.

1467
01:14:05,427 --> 01:14:07,947
Speaker 6: Yeah it is, isn't it?

1468
01:14:08,307 --> 01:14:08,667
Speaker 11: Season?

1469
01:14:10,027 --> 01:14:13,787
Speaker 6: And the way he's the way he's played against every opposition.

1470
01:14:13,827 --> 01:14:17,827
Speaker 6: And also Stephen Donald the Beaver providing some awesome analysis

1471
01:14:17,867 --> 01:14:21,827
Speaker 6: on sky Sport last night, saying it's his late footwork

1472
01:14:21,867 --> 01:14:24,667
Speaker 6: that no teams can counter him because the Japanese like

1473
01:14:24,707 --> 01:14:27,827
Speaker 6: to tackle quite low and Lunjon low. He's just making

1474
01:14:27,867 --> 01:14:30,267
Speaker 6: mincemeat of them when he wants to. And so it

1475
01:14:30,427 --> 01:14:33,227
Speaker 6: was quite an interesting insight into his special set of

1476
01:14:33,467 --> 01:14:38,067
Speaker 6: skills like Liam nesson Paiken and where he just and

1477
01:14:38,107 --> 01:14:40,267
Speaker 6: maybe like Liam mess him as well from the Chiefs.

1478
01:14:40,267 --> 01:14:45,147
Speaker 6: He's got all those skills, vitality. I thought he was sectional.

1479
01:14:45,227 --> 01:14:47,907
Speaker 6: And then it's still other aspects I'd like to talk about.

1480
01:14:48,227 --> 01:14:51,827
Speaker 6: Can Roygard and the type five who would you like

1481
01:14:51,907 --> 01:14:55,027
Speaker 6: to talk about.

1482
01:14:52,427 --> 01:14:57,107
Speaker 2: By both of those. But also before we get that,

1483
01:14:57,187 --> 01:14:58,547
Speaker 2: can I go back to you with one of the

1484
01:14:58,587 --> 01:15:00,987
Speaker 2: games we just played there or the game we just

1485
01:15:01,027 --> 01:15:03,107
Speaker 2: played when we say the same thing at the same time.

1486
01:15:03,187 --> 01:15:05,387
Speaker 2: So on my counter of three, can you say the

1487
01:15:05,467 --> 01:15:08,907
Speaker 2: surnames of who you think will play six seven and

1488
01:15:09,107 --> 01:15:12,187
Speaker 2: eight against England next week? Are you ready? We've got

1489
01:15:12,267 --> 01:15:12,627
Speaker 2: in your head?

1490
01:15:13,307 --> 01:15:16,827
Speaker 6: Wait, who are you? Okay? I can six seven eight

1491
01:15:16,907 --> 01:15:17,387
Speaker 6: in that order?

1492
01:15:17,467 --> 01:15:19,987
Speaker 2: Yees six seven eight in that order? Surnames only, okay,

1493
01:15:20,107 --> 01:15:22,227
Speaker 2: six seven eight on the on the count of three,

1494
01:15:22,707 --> 01:15:28,147
Speaker 2: one two three, so t T Caine Savia and there

1495
01:15:28,147 --> 01:15:30,587
Speaker 2: you go. Okay, So we match up on that as well.

1496
01:15:30,707 --> 01:15:32,067
Speaker 2: This game I think is going to give bit old.

1497
01:15:32,107 --> 01:15:34,227
Speaker 2: Now can we talk about Cam roy garda.

1498
01:15:34,987 --> 01:15:37,867
Speaker 6: Pam roy Guard just announcing that he's back on the

1499
01:15:37,907 --> 01:15:40,347
Speaker 6: scene also with the County Steelers, and you go, okay,

1500
01:15:40,707 --> 01:15:42,427
Speaker 6: that's just the NPC. But I'll tell you what, there's

1501
01:15:42,427 --> 01:15:45,507
Speaker 6: still tough defenses to crack. But he looks at such

1502
01:15:45,507 --> 01:15:48,227
Speaker 6: imperious form, even after he bombed that try that he

1503
01:15:48,307 --> 01:15:51,387
Speaker 6: talked about previously. I just think he's gone away not

1504
01:15:51,427 --> 01:15:53,987
Speaker 6: only worked at his game, he's worked at his interview game.

1505
01:15:54,067 --> 01:15:58,427
Speaker 6: How good was he that interview as well, just earlier

1506
01:15:58,467 --> 01:16:01,627
Speaker 6: in the hour. Come on, that's a new boy garde.

1507
01:16:01,787 --> 01:16:04,747
Speaker 2: It not is, because I remember I remember him up

1508
01:16:04,747 --> 01:16:06,827
Speaker 2: for media when he first made the hurricane, and you're

1509
01:16:06,867 --> 01:16:09,507
Speaker 2: so right, he was kind of one of I mean,

1510
01:16:09,547 --> 01:16:12,787
Speaker 2: he wasn't, you know, completely reticent with his answers, but

1511
01:16:12,827 --> 01:16:16,067
Speaker 2: they certainly weren't forty five seconds full of good analysis

1512
01:16:16,107 --> 01:16:18,707
Speaker 2: and common sense like the ones we just heard.

1513
01:16:19,507 --> 01:16:23,747
Speaker 6: Yeah, so he's come back, you know, stronger, faster, more articulate.

1514
01:16:24,427 --> 01:16:26,467
Speaker 6: He looks like he's on the verge of something special.

1515
01:16:26,587 --> 01:16:29,987
Speaker 6: So even though Cortez and Artima has got the inside running,

1516
01:16:30,267 --> 01:16:32,587
Speaker 6: I just wonder whether Royguard is going to stamp his

1517
01:16:32,707 --> 01:16:34,827
Speaker 6: mark on this tour. And look, I'm happy for the

1518
01:16:34,867 --> 01:16:38,107
Speaker 6: Northern Hemisphere to talk about Antoine du Pomp being the

1519
01:16:38,147 --> 01:16:40,587
Speaker 6: greatest way we plan in the world, but maybe, just

1520
01:16:40,707 --> 01:16:43,387
Speaker 6: maybe in Paris in a few weeks time he'll get

1521
01:16:43,427 --> 01:16:48,027
Speaker 6: dethroned by cam Royguard, whose surname does mean King's Guard,

1522
01:16:48,067 --> 01:16:53,027
Speaker 6: doesn't it? And in frink anyway, let's go there. I

1523
01:16:53,027 --> 01:16:56,947
Speaker 6: didn't stick the landing like cam Royguard, but he is.

1524
01:16:57,427 --> 01:17:00,227
Speaker 6: He looks like he's just ready to do something special,

1525
01:17:00,347 --> 01:17:04,387
Speaker 6: even after breaking or equaling Bowden's Bronco record.

1526
01:17:05,187 --> 01:17:07,907
Speaker 2: Now were you happy to hear Wellie who Ha sung

1527
01:17:08,187 --> 01:17:11,787
Speaker 2: again after the MPC final yesterday after an extra twenty

1528
01:17:11,827 --> 01:17:12,347
Speaker 2: minutes of it.

1529
01:17:13,387 --> 01:17:15,787
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It was an epic final. I felt

1530
01:17:15,787 --> 01:17:18,067
Speaker 6: for the bay. I mean, I'm chiefsmun all day. I

1531
01:17:18,147 --> 01:17:22,627
Speaker 6: really wanted to make plenty to make history there. But

1532
01:17:23,147 --> 01:17:26,547
Speaker 6: they both deserve a trophy, don't they. But it can

1533
01:17:26,627 --> 01:17:30,827
Speaker 6: only be one. Wellington have been front running all season

1534
01:17:30,867 --> 01:17:34,627
Speaker 6: and they're just an exceptional provincial side. I loved them

1535
01:17:34,827 --> 01:17:38,427
Speaker 6: the fact that Jackson Garden Bashi got to win after

1536
01:17:39,587 --> 01:17:43,067
Speaker 6: the tragedy of his brother Connor passing away this earlier

1537
01:17:43,067 --> 01:17:45,787
Speaker 6: this year. There was a lot of storylines. I think,

1538
01:17:45,867 --> 01:17:49,707
Speaker 6: you know, duper sf he just trying to that all

1539
01:17:49,747 --> 01:17:54,507
Speaker 6: way for recognition really, and then Riley Higgins an emerging talent.

1540
01:17:55,227 --> 01:17:59,667
Speaker 6: What will happen when Riley Higgins when he gets into

1541
01:17:59,707 --> 01:18:01,827
Speaker 6: the All Blacks, which feels like it's going to happen

1542
01:18:01,947 --> 01:18:05,187
Speaker 6: very soon. And then Jordi Barrett comes back from Ireland

1543
01:18:05,187 --> 01:18:08,347
Speaker 6: and they're both Hurricanes trying to battle over one jersey.

1544
01:18:08,387 --> 01:18:10,707
Speaker 6: That's going to be interesting to watch. But yeah, I

1545
01:18:10,747 --> 01:18:13,147
Speaker 6: was okay with it. Piney. You're welly all day, aren't you?

1546
01:18:13,187 --> 01:18:13,347
Speaker 16: Yeah?

1547
01:18:13,347 --> 01:18:16,147
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Look I've it's my ring tone now, wellie, hohoha

1548
01:18:16,707 --> 01:18:20,267
Speaker 2: is my ring tone? So you know not that I

1549
01:18:20,627 --> 01:18:22,227
Speaker 2: not that I get a heck of a lot of

1550
01:18:22,227 --> 01:18:25,027
Speaker 2: phone calls if I'm honest, But no, it's sitting there

1551
01:18:25,027 --> 01:18:27,067
Speaker 2: and just on, just on Riley Higgins. Yeah, Riley Higgins,

1552
01:18:27,107 --> 01:18:28,747
Speaker 2: Billy Proctor Higg. Is that going to be in the

1553
01:18:28,787 --> 01:18:32,987
Speaker 2: absence of Jordy Barrett for the Hurricanes next Super Rugby season? Hey,

1554
01:18:33,027 --> 01:18:36,827
Speaker 2: just before you go, Chris Wood more goals for Nottingham

1555
01:18:36,867 --> 01:18:41,227
Speaker 2: Forest yesterday. Only Earling Harland has more Premier League goals

1556
01:18:41,347 --> 01:18:44,027
Speaker 2: so far this season than Chris Wood. It opens up

1557
01:18:44,027 --> 01:18:46,587
Speaker 2: the inevitable conversation about where he sits among our all

1558
01:18:46,627 --> 01:18:48,787
Speaker 2: time football and greats. I don't necessarily want to have

1559
01:18:48,827 --> 01:18:51,467
Speaker 2: that conversation today, but how good's he going?

1560
01:18:53,227 --> 01:18:56,107
Speaker 6: He's unbelievable Chris Wood, and I think there's a lot

1561
01:18:56,107 --> 01:18:59,467
Speaker 6: of big clubs ruing the fact that they never assigned

1562
01:18:59,467 --> 01:19:01,707
Speaker 6: them because he was on the market there for a

1563
01:19:01,747 --> 01:19:05,707
Speaker 6: while for a pretty decent rate, and you know he's

1564
01:19:05,707 --> 01:19:09,067
Speaker 6: been fighting a those battler clubs, you know, whether it's

1565
01:19:09,067 --> 01:19:13,307
Speaker 6: Burnley and this time Forest, But then I think I

1566
01:19:13,347 --> 01:19:16,627
Speaker 6: had times at Lester as well, and there's another clubs

1567
01:19:16,707 --> 01:19:19,987
Speaker 6: if for a while as well. But look the fact

1568
01:19:20,027 --> 01:19:22,427
Speaker 6: that Nottingham Forest picked him up and he keeps on

1569
01:19:22,507 --> 01:19:24,987
Speaker 6: banging in goals even though you and I Piney have

1570
01:19:25,027 --> 01:19:27,667
Speaker 6: been part of the Chris Wood fan club for a while.

1571
01:19:27,707 --> 01:19:30,187
Speaker 6: I feel like the British are finally starting to take

1572
01:19:30,267 --> 01:19:32,987
Speaker 6: notice and talking them up. And I think there's two

1573
01:19:32,987 --> 01:19:36,107
Speaker 6: factors to that. One is Harry Kane's left and he's

1574
01:19:36,107 --> 01:19:38,307
Speaker 6: gone to play for Bayern Munich. So they're looking to

1575
01:19:38,347 --> 01:19:41,187
Speaker 6: talk about strikers and goalscorers and they've got no option

1576
01:19:41,347 --> 01:19:45,347
Speaker 6: except to talk about Chris Wood and Healing Harland together,

1577
01:19:45,427 --> 01:19:48,427
Speaker 6: which I love so And also he is propping up

1578
01:19:48,467 --> 01:19:51,187
Speaker 6: a club that everyone was picking for relegation and we

1579
01:19:51,267 --> 01:19:53,147
Speaker 6: did talk about this a few weeks ago, Parney. He

1580
01:19:53,267 --> 01:19:56,427
Speaker 6: is that good Chris Wood, that he is changing everything

1581
01:19:56,467 --> 01:19:58,587
Speaker 6: for them. The fact they let a couple of stars

1582
01:19:58,627 --> 01:20:01,107
Speaker 6: go over the summer I think helps him. He's not

1583
01:20:01,347 --> 01:20:03,067
Speaker 6: just had got his back to the goal or in

1584
01:20:03,107 --> 01:20:06,027
Speaker 6: the six yard box. Who seems to share those duties

1585
01:20:06,027 --> 01:20:09,107
Speaker 6: now And he scored one goal from outside the area

1586
01:20:09,187 --> 01:20:12,107
Speaker 6: which blew everyone's mind. But this is the one thing

1587
01:20:12,187 --> 01:20:15,827
Speaker 6: is that all those big clubs that didn't want him,

1588
01:20:16,707 --> 01:20:20,187
Speaker 6: Manchester United whoever, they are behind Nottingham Forest right now

1589
01:20:20,227 --> 01:20:22,147
Speaker 6: and it's all because of Chris Wood indeed.

1590
01:20:22,267 --> 01:20:24,027
Speaker 2: And there's sixth and that's the thing as well with

1591
01:20:24,107 --> 01:20:25,827
Speaker 2: the team like Nottingham Forest, who at the start of

1592
01:20:25,867 --> 01:20:27,947
Speaker 2: the season people are okay, well they might be a

1593
01:20:28,027 --> 01:20:31,547
Speaker 2: relegation contender if you start well. They've got well, they've

1594
01:20:31,547 --> 01:20:34,547
Speaker 2: got sixteen points from their first nine games. It's just

1595
01:20:34,587 --> 01:20:36,467
Speaker 2: such a good launching pad. It means that you can

1596
01:20:36,507 --> 01:20:38,267
Speaker 2: go through a bit of a trough, you know, in

1597
01:20:38,307 --> 01:20:40,627
Speaker 2: the sort of mid season around December, January, whatever it is,

1598
01:20:40,667 --> 01:20:42,027
Speaker 2: and not get a couple of wins, but you've got

1599
01:20:42,027 --> 01:20:44,507
Speaker 2: the base which is usually enough to stay up. You

1600
01:20:44,547 --> 01:20:47,947
Speaker 2: compare it to the likes of Southampton Wolves and Crystal Palace,

1601
01:20:47,947 --> 01:20:50,307
Speaker 2: who are really battling down the bottom. I think you

1602
01:20:50,347 --> 01:20:52,947
Speaker 2: know what Camp, what Chris Wood's doing for Forest right

1603
01:20:52,987 --> 01:20:54,267
Speaker 2: now will probably keep them up.

1604
01:20:55,187 --> 01:20:58,027
Speaker 6: Well, I know it's exactly right. So this is the

1605
01:20:58,067 --> 01:21:02,187
Speaker 6: thing old fashioned strikers. Even the phrase is the meaning

1606
01:21:02,187 --> 01:21:04,867
Speaker 6: for someone who's that good at their job, they should

1607
01:21:04,907 --> 01:21:07,747
Speaker 6: have really thought about what their team needs. And even

1608
01:21:07,747 --> 01:21:11,147
Speaker 6: Pep Guardiola went for an old fashion striker in Earling Harland.

1609
01:21:11,187 --> 01:21:14,147
Speaker 6: So I know he was mentioned a little bit in

1610
01:21:14,187 --> 01:21:16,347
Speaker 6: dispatches with some bigger clubs. I'm glad he's gone the

1611
01:21:16,387 --> 01:21:18,547
Speaker 6: Forest because he's going to be a legionnaire for a

1612
01:21:18,547 --> 01:21:20,667
Speaker 6: long time. And yes he might not be as good

1613
01:21:20,707 --> 01:21:23,347
Speaker 6: as Winton Rupil, probably he only he's in a football

1614
01:21:23,867 --> 01:21:26,707
Speaker 6: footballer he can say it is better. But how about this,

1615
01:21:26,827 --> 01:21:30,227
Speaker 6: he's also maybe the best footballer out of the White

1616
01:21:30,267 --> 01:21:31,787
Speaker 6: cut all since Don Clark.

1617
01:21:32,547 --> 01:21:34,867
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. What a way to finish.

1618
01:21:34,987 --> 01:21:37,147
Speaker 2: Thanks James, Enjoy the rest of your long weekend, mate.

1619
01:21:37,147 --> 01:21:39,587
Speaker 2: We'll chat again next Sunday. James McCartney part of our

1620
01:21:39,587 --> 01:21:41,147
Speaker 2: Sunday seven to two News Talks.

1621
01:21:40,947 --> 01:21:45,187
Speaker 1: NB, analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting

1622
01:21:45,227 --> 01:21:48,627
Speaker 1: world weekends for It with Jason Pie they're all eight

1623
01:21:48,707 --> 01:21:50,587
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty.

1624
01:21:50,227 --> 01:21:52,667
Speaker 2: Talks MB four to two Guy says, I chose Chris

1625
01:21:52,707 --> 01:21:55,347
Speaker 2: Wood of my EPL fantasy team alongside Earling Harland and

1626
01:21:55,427 --> 01:21:58,107
Speaker 2: Nicholas Jackson. Good to hear you talking about football again.

1627
01:21:58,147 --> 01:22:00,907
Speaker 2: A good trio, Guy, Well done, well done. Indeed, after

1628
01:22:00,907 --> 01:22:03,827
Speaker 2: two o'clock, honey hide me Smiler is with us. Her

1629
01:22:03,867 --> 01:22:07,347
Speaker 2: autobiography is out. Going to chat to her about that.

1630
01:22:07,507 --> 01:22:09,947
Speaker 2: Can we ort to point out of the Silver Ferns

1631
01:22:10,147 --> 01:22:14,267
Speaker 2: Constellation Cup Test three tonight in Perth and Logan Rogerson

1632
01:22:14,267 --> 01:22:16,067
Speaker 2: from Auckland FC is also on the show.

1633
01:22:17,067 --> 01:22:21,347
Speaker 1: The only place for the big names, the big issues,

1634
01:22:22,027 --> 01:22:26,987
Speaker 1: the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on

1635
01:22:27,067 --> 01:22:30,827
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport

1636
01:22:31,307 --> 01:22:31,987
Speaker 1: News Talk.

1637
01:22:31,867 --> 01:22:32,187
Speaker 4: Said, be.

1638
01:22:34,067 --> 01:22:36,027
Speaker 2: Welcome in or welcome back as the case maybe, but

1639
01:22:36,067 --> 01:22:39,067
Speaker 2: I hope your long weekend is going well, relaxing and

1640
01:22:39,107 --> 01:22:40,627
Speaker 2: all that. If you're in a different part of the

1641
01:22:40,627 --> 01:22:43,547
Speaker 2: country from that that you would normally inhabit, I hope

1642
01:22:43,587 --> 01:22:47,827
Speaker 2: you're having a relaxing time of things. You're about to

1643
01:22:47,867 --> 01:22:49,467
Speaker 2: hit the road to head back. Maybe you are one

1644
01:22:49,507 --> 01:22:52,587
Speaker 2: of those working on Monday. Please take it easy. What

1645
01:22:52,667 --> 01:22:54,067
Speaker 2: have we got for you this hour? Quite a bit

1646
01:22:54,107 --> 01:22:59,907
Speaker 2: actually tonight Constellation Cup number three, Constellation Cup Test Match

1647
01:22:59,987 --> 01:23:03,787
Speaker 2: number three, Silver Ferns Australian Diamonds, this ones in Perth,

1648
01:23:04,307 --> 01:23:06,587
Speaker 2: New Zealand won both of the Test matches here in

1649
01:23:06,667 --> 01:23:09,547
Speaker 2: New Zealand to take a two year lead in the

1650
01:23:09,547 --> 01:23:12,507
Speaker 2: format series. Now, the interesting part of this is that

1651
01:23:12,507 --> 01:23:15,667
Speaker 2: if it finishes two to two after the two tests

1652
01:23:15,667 --> 01:23:18,627
Speaker 2: in Australia, they play a little mini game at the

1653
01:23:18,707 --> 01:23:22,787
Speaker 2: end of Test four, seven minutes each way. In the

1654
01:23:22,827 --> 01:23:25,947
Speaker 2: past it's been the goal differential. You add all of

1655
01:23:25,987 --> 01:23:29,267
Speaker 2: the scores together and whoever's got the better goal diff

1656
01:23:31,627 --> 01:23:33,307
Speaker 2: is the one who wins it. No, this time I've

1657
01:23:33,307 --> 01:23:35,867
Speaker 2: got a little mini decider at the end of the

1658
01:23:35,867 --> 01:23:40,227
Speaker 2: fourth Test. Obviously, we hope that doesn't happen, that it's

1659
01:23:40,267 --> 01:23:43,907
Speaker 2: not needed that New Zealand win either tonight or Test

1660
01:23:43,987 --> 01:23:47,707
Speaker 2: number four. Midweek, kimeoord to POI out of the Silver

1661
01:23:47,747 --> 01:23:52,147
Speaker 2: Ferns to join US. Logan Rogerson from Auckland FC, first

1662
01:23:52,187 --> 01:23:54,707
Speaker 2: goal scorer wearing an Auckland f C shirt for the

1663
01:23:54,707 --> 01:23:57,627
Speaker 2: club last week. Of course, their first goal as an

1664
01:23:57,627 --> 01:24:00,307
Speaker 2: a league side was an own goal, but Logan Rogerson

1665
01:24:00,347 --> 01:24:02,347
Speaker 2: scored the second and a two nil one over Brisbane

1666
01:24:02,427 --> 01:24:04,307
Speaker 2: rot As you heard Nathan mentioned in the news, they

1667
01:24:04,347 --> 01:24:06,707
Speaker 2: go again this afternoon back at Mount smart or Go

1668
01:24:06,827 --> 01:24:10,787
Speaker 2: Media Stadium against Sydney FC. Logan Rogerson ahead of that

1669
01:24:11,387 --> 01:24:14,387
Speaker 2: very shortly honey hitting me smiler going to chat to

1670
01:24:14,467 --> 01:24:17,907
Speaker 2: us about her autobiography, which I would highly recommend, by

1671
01:24:17,907 --> 01:24:20,347
Speaker 2: the way, a really good read for one of our

1672
01:24:20,387 --> 01:24:24,267
Speaker 2: all time greats. Across multiple codes. Your calls and correspondents

1673
01:24:24,267 --> 01:24:29,747
Speaker 2: continue to be welcomed, encouraged, warmly encouraged. Oh eight hundred

1674
01:24:29,747 --> 01:24:31,307
Speaker 2: and eighty ten eighty if you'd like to chat to

1675
01:24:31,387 --> 01:24:33,187
Speaker 2: us on the phone, nine two ninety two, If you

1676
01:24:33,187 --> 01:24:35,747
Speaker 2: would like to send a text or emails into Jason

1677
01:24:36,027 --> 01:24:38,867
Speaker 2: at Newstalk SDB dot co dot NZEB. As we approached

1678
01:24:38,947 --> 01:24:42,387
Speaker 2: nine past two, as we always do at this time

1679
01:24:42,507 --> 01:24:45,347
Speaker 2: on weekend sport, it's time for you to be updated,

1680
01:24:46,427 --> 01:24:49,147
Speaker 2: to get the latest, or at the very least find

1681
01:24:49,147 --> 01:24:51,227
Speaker 2: out some stuff you didn't know in case you missed it,

1682
01:24:51,987 --> 01:24:55,627
Speaker 2: and we start in the Premier League. No shortage of drama. Overnight,

1683
01:24:56,267 --> 01:25:01,387
Speaker 2: a goalfest saw Brentford net their winner against Ipswich Town

1684
01:25:01,467 --> 01:25:02,987
Speaker 2: in the ninety seventh.

1685
01:25:02,667 --> 01:25:07,227
Speaker 18: Minute and it goes from m.

1686
01:25:12,387 --> 01:25:18,067
Speaker 24: Stanish Boma play in the final seconds, fast up its time.

1687
01:25:18,787 --> 01:25:20,347
Speaker 18: That has been another twist.

1688
01:25:20,627 --> 01:25:23,307
Speaker 2: Yeah, a seven goal thriller. Brentford betting it's which four

1689
01:25:23,387 --> 01:25:27,067
Speaker 2: to three at home. Everton snagged an equalizer in the

1690
01:25:27,187 --> 01:25:29,187
Speaker 2: ninety fifth minute against Fulham in.

1691
01:25:29,267 --> 01:25:34,347
Speaker 22: There including ast a young rout of the boats.

1692
01:25:35,787 --> 01:25:39,347
Speaker 2: It was coming and Batter's command.

1693
01:25:39,227 --> 01:25:40,147
Speaker 18: In the nick of time.

1694
01:25:40,667 --> 01:25:44,347
Speaker 2: Meantime, Bournemouth scored their equalizer in the ninety seventh minute

1695
01:25:44,427 --> 01:25:48,427
Speaker 2: against aston Villa from Tavinier.

1696
01:25:48,627 --> 01:25:49,627
Speaker 18: Have Niel since had it?

1697
01:25:50,627 --> 01:25:53,827
Speaker 23: He's got the goal that surely gets.

1698
01:25:53,667 --> 01:25:57,267
Speaker 2: Pourmouth a twenty Phillip Park It did and the trend

1699
01:25:57,387 --> 01:26:01,787
Speaker 2: continued Wolves in the ninety fourth minute rescuing a point

1700
01:26:02,027 --> 01:26:06,627
Speaker 2: away at Brighton attacks for Wolves with Cunya to take

1701
01:26:06,707 --> 01:26:06,947
Speaker 2: it on.

1702
01:26:09,227 --> 01:26:14,107
Speaker 18: It slutely believe it all.

1703
01:26:14,467 --> 01:26:16,707
Speaker 2: Yeah, what a dramatic night of Premier League football action

1704
01:26:16,747 --> 01:26:19,347
Speaker 2: are but closer to home, although still quite far away.

1705
01:26:19,747 --> 01:26:22,227
Speaker 2: It was a bit more straightforward for the Wellington Phoenix

1706
01:26:22,307 --> 01:26:24,307
Speaker 2: against Perth Glory in Western Australia.

1707
01:26:24,427 --> 01:26:27,907
Speaker 20: Now Nagasawa alight run and two in.

1708
01:26:27,947 --> 01:26:32,427
Speaker 25: The Phoenix two paid came fifteenth and he arrived with

1709
01:26:32,547 --> 01:26:33,587
Speaker 25: a powerful.

1710
01:26:33,227 --> 01:26:35,787
Speaker 2: Header that don't just have the.

1711
01:26:35,827 --> 01:26:38,787
Speaker 17: Phoenix on track for the first bit of the season.

1712
01:26:38,547 --> 01:26:41,547
Speaker 2: And did two nil over Perth, two defenders, two heaters,

1713
01:26:41,587 --> 01:26:44,667
Speaker 2: Scott Wooton and Tim Payne scoring the goals to rugby

1714
01:26:45,147 --> 01:26:49,027
Speaker 2: a new Bunnings ENDPC champion's being crowned the Lions.

1715
01:26:48,947 --> 01:26:51,547
Speaker 23: And it goes you're a wife fact to Hearken.

1716
01:26:51,867 --> 01:26:55,427
Speaker 4: That's under the crowd the bunny dead PC well as

1717
01:26:55,467 --> 01:26:58,547
Speaker 4: the Hyams. Twenty twenty four the.

1718
01:26:58,387 --> 01:27:04,307
Speaker 1: Title is yours one dred minutes absolutely outstanding. Twenty three

1719
01:27:04,387 --> 01:27:06,907
Speaker 1: twenty the Lions take title.

1720
01:27:07,587 --> 01:27:10,787
Speaker 2: Just brilliant from Roth Bond calling that one I missed

1721
01:27:10,827 --> 01:27:12,427
Speaker 2: him last night. He said he didn't have any voice

1722
01:27:12,467 --> 01:27:15,427
Speaker 2: left at all. Not surprising after eighty minutes plus twenty

1723
01:27:15,467 --> 01:27:19,387
Speaker 2: of extra time and Game one of Baseball's World Series

1724
01:27:19,827 --> 01:27:23,307
Speaker 2: won by the LA Dodgers in the most dramatic fashion

1725
01:27:23,507 --> 01:27:27,347
Speaker 2: Yankees three, the Dodgers two. The basses are.

1726
01:27:27,267 --> 01:27:29,867
Speaker 15: Loaded to out bottom of the tenth inning.

1727
01:27:30,107 --> 01:27:33,827
Speaker 20: Dick scenario you dream about Freddy is living first pitch,

1728
01:27:33,827 --> 01:27:35,107
Speaker 20: swinging high fla.

1729
01:27:35,147 --> 01:27:45,267
Speaker 24: Ball back, Freddie Ribbon channeling his dinner for Ditton, Oh

1730
01:27:45,347 --> 01:27:46,787
Speaker 24: walk up hold run.

1731
01:27:47,267 --> 01:27:50,987
Speaker 23: Indeed, one of the World Jerries, They walk.

1732
01:27:50,827 --> 01:27:57,667
Speaker 1: Up Groun Flem breaking down the Hail Mary's and the fails.

1733
01:27:58,907 --> 01:28:02,667
Speaker 1: Weekend Sport with Jason Lyme New Stalks.

1734
01:28:02,227 --> 01:28:05,307
Speaker 2: V Incredible drama in the baseball A Game two is underway,

1735
01:28:05,347 --> 01:28:07,467
Speaker 2: actually in the La Dodge, bottom of the third lead

1736
01:28:07,947 --> 01:28:10,987
Speaker 2: the New York Yankees four to one in Game two

1737
01:28:11,187 --> 01:28:15,707
Speaker 2: of Baseball's World Series two twelve. It is Honey, Hitting

1738
01:28:15,787 --> 01:28:19,507
Speaker 2: Me Smiler, one of our absolute sporting greats. She won

1739
01:28:19,587 --> 01:28:23,067
Speaker 2: the Silver Fern Rather War, the Silver Fern and rugby league,

1740
01:28:23,467 --> 01:28:27,907
Speaker 2: rugby sevens and nine's, winning four World Cups and consistently

1741
01:28:27,987 --> 01:28:30,827
Speaker 2: being among the best players in the world regardless of

1742
01:28:30,987 --> 01:28:33,307
Speaker 2: which sport she was playing. She's now one of the

1743
01:28:33,347 --> 01:28:36,347
Speaker 2: best known and loved faces and voices on Sky Sport

1744
01:28:36,707 --> 01:28:40,107
Speaker 2: with coverage of rugby and also rugby league. She's a wife,

1745
01:28:40,227 --> 01:28:42,987
Speaker 2: a mum, and she's written the story of her life,

1746
01:28:43,067 --> 01:28:47,107
Speaker 2: which is a brilliant read, a really brilliant read with

1747
01:28:47,307 --> 01:28:50,827
Speaker 2: so many layers to it. Her autobiography is called Honey,

1748
01:28:51,307 --> 01:28:55,147
Speaker 2: My Story of Love, Loss and Victory. Honey, Hide Me

1749
01:28:55,307 --> 01:28:57,987
Speaker 2: Smiler is with us. Congratulations on the book, Honey, Are

1750
01:28:57,987 --> 01:28:59,907
Speaker 2: you happy with the way that it's come out.

1751
01:29:00,947 --> 01:29:03,627
Speaker 7: Yeah, I am, to be honest, Jason Elsa paid so

1752
01:29:03,747 --> 01:29:08,067
Speaker 7: much really choice feedback from a guby and especially from

1753
01:29:08,107 --> 01:29:10,427
Speaker 7: my fano like that there were probably, you know, the

1754
01:29:10,507 --> 01:29:12,267
Speaker 7: main ones that I really want to make sure that.

1755
01:29:14,307 --> 01:29:16,347
Speaker 4: You know that they received the book.

1756
01:29:16,387 --> 01:29:20,147
Speaker 7: Well, and that's all I've really got and so I'm

1757
01:29:20,147 --> 01:29:20,947
Speaker 7: pretty stoked with it.

1758
01:29:21,427 --> 01:29:24,227
Speaker 2: How did you find the process of going back over

1759
01:29:24,307 --> 01:29:26,867
Speaker 2: your life and telling your story? How did you find that?

1760
01:29:27,987 --> 01:29:28,107
Speaker 20: Oh?

1761
01:29:28,187 --> 01:29:30,107
Speaker 8: Pretty gruelingly honest.

1762
01:29:31,107 --> 01:29:32,507
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not an easy job.

1763
01:29:32,907 --> 01:29:36,947
Speaker 7: And I think like Susan obviously she was my grosth

1764
01:29:37,027 --> 01:29:37,867
Speaker 7: riad and she just did.

1765
01:29:37,827 --> 01:29:38,627
Speaker 9: An amazing job.

1766
01:29:38,827 --> 01:29:42,667
Speaker 7: Like we kind of sort of muted out like a

1767
01:29:42,827 --> 01:29:45,107
Speaker 7: kind of basics in terms of chapters and what were

1768
01:29:45,187 --> 01:29:47,267
Speaker 7: kind of highlights in my life and maybe I want

1769
01:29:47,307 --> 01:29:49,587
Speaker 7: to chat about, but she was able to draw out

1770
01:29:49,667 --> 01:29:52,147
Speaker 7: so much more than that. And actually the way she's

1771
01:29:52,307 --> 01:29:54,467
Speaker 7: I think shaped the book and you know, sort of

1772
01:29:54,547 --> 01:29:57,387
Speaker 7: told the story of like I don't even really thought

1773
01:29:57,427 --> 01:30:00,627
Speaker 7: I was that interesting, but as we got talking and things,

1774
01:30:00,747 --> 01:30:03,747
Speaker 7: you know when you're reading stuff on paper, like Sarah

1775
01:30:03,947 --> 01:30:06,307
Speaker 7: like it was actually quite significant in my life.

1776
01:30:06,507 --> 01:30:08,187
Speaker 6: So it was a rollercoaster.

1777
01:30:08,507 --> 01:30:12,187
Speaker 7: It brought up a lot of stuff, and yeah, but

1778
01:30:12,867 --> 01:30:15,067
Speaker 7: healing in that sense, I think that it needed to

1779
01:30:15,147 --> 01:30:18,707
Speaker 7: probably be brought up so and I think it's the

1780
01:30:18,787 --> 01:30:19,947
Speaker 7: book really reflects that.

1781
01:30:20,627 --> 01:30:22,987
Speaker 2: One thing that constantly occurred to me as I was

1782
01:30:23,067 --> 01:30:26,827
Speaker 2: reading it was how busy and full your life has

1783
01:30:27,107 --> 01:30:30,667
Speaker 2: been right through it, really, but particularly during your playing days,

1784
01:30:30,707 --> 01:30:34,707
Speaker 2: fitting in games, tours, trainings, work, fino, How did you

1785
01:30:34,827 --> 01:30:35,187
Speaker 2: manage it?

1786
01:30:36,787 --> 01:30:38,947
Speaker 7: You know, I think that was just part of my era,

1787
01:30:39,147 --> 01:30:42,027
Speaker 7: you know, like we didn't know any better, and we did,

1788
01:30:42,387 --> 01:30:43,947
Speaker 7: you know, a lot of a lot of my years

1789
01:30:44,027 --> 01:30:48,747
Speaker 7: playing you know at top level where all managur right,

1790
01:30:48,907 --> 01:30:50,747
Speaker 7: So we did it for the love of the game.

1791
01:30:50,867 --> 01:30:53,667
Speaker 7: So you managed life around it because you loved I

1792
01:30:53,747 --> 01:30:56,187
Speaker 7: loved the footy field so much, so I just made

1793
01:30:56,227 --> 01:30:58,067
Speaker 7: sure that I was always going to be out there

1794
01:30:58,147 --> 01:31:01,427
Speaker 7: and adjusted life around there. And so I think I've

1795
01:31:01,427 --> 01:31:05,947
Speaker 7: always been a fairly organized person. Some would say it's OCD,

1796
01:31:07,307 --> 01:31:10,707
Speaker 7: but you know, and I just made sure, like I've

1797
01:31:10,867 --> 01:31:12,747
Speaker 7: always been a bit of a planner as well, Like I,

1798
01:31:13,587 --> 01:31:16,187
Speaker 7: you know, religiously get you know, one year plans and

1799
01:31:16,267 --> 01:31:18,427
Speaker 7: look at them and be like, right, this tournament's here,

1800
01:31:18,587 --> 01:31:20,987
Speaker 7: I'm going to that, I'm going to that sometimes it

1801
01:31:21,107 --> 01:31:23,827
Speaker 7: was difficult, right because we never got calendars very early

1802
01:31:23,867 --> 01:31:25,827
Speaker 7: and we never knew what games were coming up and

1803
01:31:25,947 --> 01:31:28,067
Speaker 7: things like that. But you know, so at the moment

1804
01:31:28,107 --> 01:31:29,787
Speaker 7: I knew, I'd chuck it up there and be like, right,

1805
01:31:29,867 --> 01:31:30,747
Speaker 7: this is what I'm aiming for.

1806
01:31:31,027 --> 01:31:33,027
Speaker 8: So, I know, I think it was always gold driven.

1807
01:31:33,067 --> 01:31:34,867
Speaker 7: I always had to have some sort of purpose that

1808
01:31:34,947 --> 01:31:39,067
Speaker 7: I that I wanted to work towards in so obviously

1809
01:31:39,187 --> 01:31:41,987
Speaker 7: that came with, you know, a lot of achievements, but

1810
01:31:42,147 --> 01:31:45,387
Speaker 7: also having to sacrifice a lot as well, and sometimes

1811
01:31:45,627 --> 01:31:48,867
Speaker 7: whether that was family time or work time or other things.

1812
01:31:49,267 --> 01:31:52,187
Speaker 7: I just, yes, it didn't medically made it happen.

1813
01:31:52,347 --> 01:31:54,787
Speaker 2: But the other part was, honey, it's not just one sport.

1814
01:31:54,947 --> 01:31:57,507
Speaker 2: You were going between sports as well, and sometimes I

1815
01:31:57,587 --> 01:31:59,787
Speaker 2: had to reread passages to say, right, are we in rugby?

1816
01:31:59,867 --> 01:32:01,467
Speaker 2: Here are we Rugby League? Are we seven?

1817
01:32:01,587 --> 01:32:02,067
Speaker 7: Where are we?

1818
01:32:02,387 --> 01:32:04,187
Speaker 2: Where are we in this? Because you had tournaments that

1819
01:32:04,307 --> 01:32:06,947
Speaker 2: basically buttered up against each other? How did you so

1820
01:32:07,187 --> 01:32:10,547
Speaker 2: seamlessly move between the codes that you played?

1821
01:32:11,627 --> 01:32:13,747
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of back to back stuff, to be honest,

1822
01:32:13,867 --> 01:32:16,147
Speaker 7: And I think at the time I never really got

1823
01:32:17,627 --> 01:32:20,987
Speaker 7: I never really worried too much about transitioning in terms

1824
01:32:21,027 --> 01:32:23,027
Speaker 7: of the games. You know, when I was on the field,

1825
01:32:23,067 --> 01:32:25,347
Speaker 7: I knew what I was up there to do, and

1826
01:32:26,027 --> 01:32:27,987
Speaker 7: you know, I knew what game was playing, what the

1827
01:32:28,067 --> 01:32:31,027
Speaker 7: rules were, and what I what my strengths were. So

1828
01:32:31,107 --> 01:32:34,067
Speaker 7: I'm back to that part of my playing ability. It

1829
01:32:34,267 --> 01:32:36,787
Speaker 7: was just, I suppose more so the logistics of getting

1830
01:32:36,787 --> 01:32:39,747
Speaker 7: around it. I mean, you know, the twenty thirteen was

1831
01:32:39,867 --> 01:32:42,827
Speaker 7: a hectic trying to play, you know, a World Cup

1832
01:32:42,907 --> 01:32:46,667
Speaker 7: sevens from Russia and then get over to England, getting

1833
01:32:46,747 --> 01:32:49,827
Speaker 7: lost in transition in terms of you know, the wrong

1834
01:32:49,907 --> 01:32:52,587
Speaker 7: airports and all of that kind of stuff, getting over there,

1835
01:32:52,987 --> 01:32:57,147
Speaker 7: being the captain, pushing through a whole World Cup, getting

1836
01:32:57,147 --> 01:33:00,187
Speaker 7: to the end and losing, you know. So again it

1837
01:33:00,347 --> 01:33:05,107
Speaker 7: was just I think, just that determination to want to.

1838
01:33:06,627 --> 01:33:08,187
Speaker 26: Be there, be involved.

1839
01:33:09,267 --> 01:33:12,867
Speaker 4: And I think for me it was always about earning it.

1840
01:33:13,187 --> 01:33:14,787
Speaker 9: I always wanted to earn my.

1841
01:33:14,987 --> 01:33:15,667
Speaker 14: Right to be there.

1842
01:33:15,867 --> 01:33:19,347
Speaker 7: I never wanted to be there our names. So I've

1843
01:33:19,507 --> 01:33:22,027
Speaker 7: played for so many years, you know, and I played

1844
01:33:22,107 --> 01:33:25,467
Speaker 7: quite long until obviously in my late thirties, but I

1845
01:33:25,547 --> 01:33:27,187
Speaker 7: always wanted to make sure that I was earning it.

1846
01:33:27,387 --> 01:33:30,507
Speaker 7: So I don't know, I think I just held had

1847
01:33:30,547 --> 01:33:34,067
Speaker 7: a very different, I suppose set of standards in terms

1848
01:33:34,107 --> 01:33:35,427
Speaker 7: of my own accountability.

1849
01:33:36,107 --> 01:33:39,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, that story you alluded to their airports, trains, trams,

1850
01:33:39,307 --> 01:33:43,187
Speaker 2: not speaking Russian. I was even getting anxious reading it.

1851
01:33:44,827 --> 01:33:47,387
Speaker 2: But of course, I mean there were pannicle events, lots

1852
01:33:47,467 --> 01:33:49,827
Speaker 2: of them. You won World Cups in league in five,

1853
01:33:49,907 --> 01:33:52,387
Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight, sevens and twenty thirteen, you

1854
01:33:52,467 --> 01:33:55,107
Speaker 2: won the Nines and twenty nineteen. Does any of your

1855
01:33:55,147 --> 01:33:58,147
Speaker 2: World Cup wins stand out above the others?

1856
01:33:59,467 --> 01:34:01,707
Speaker 7: Probably not the winds, to be honest, Jason, but more

1857
01:34:01,827 --> 01:34:05,507
Speaker 7: so the losses. And I always refer back on that

1858
01:34:05,627 --> 01:34:08,027
Speaker 7: twenty thirteen Ruguy leg World Cup. I have won two

1859
01:34:08,147 --> 01:34:10,867
Speaker 7: prior to that was going into my third one as

1860
01:34:11,027 --> 01:34:14,347
Speaker 7: the captain, and there was just so much I did

1861
01:34:14,587 --> 01:34:16,667
Speaker 7: in that final game that I wasn't happy with that

1862
01:34:17,067 --> 01:34:20,787
Speaker 7: that I was constantly regreet, I think, and that just

1863
01:34:20,867 --> 01:34:22,587
Speaker 7: came down to those you know, there's a little one

1864
01:34:22,667 --> 01:34:27,947
Speaker 7: percenters and playing under pressure, and so I think it's.

1865
01:34:27,907 --> 01:34:32,747
Speaker 26: The losses that get me more than anything, uh, you know,

1866
01:34:32,907 --> 01:34:36,707
Speaker 26: and then those those are just the ones that I feel,

1867
01:34:37,187 --> 01:34:38,547
Speaker 26: you know, I could have done better.

1868
01:34:39,627 --> 01:34:43,787
Speaker 7: The wins for me are awesome that you know, obviously

1869
01:34:43,787 --> 01:34:45,787
Speaker 7: I played teams for sports, so you know, I was

1870
01:34:45,827 --> 01:34:49,187
Speaker 7: putting everything down to a collective where if I reflect

1871
01:34:49,267 --> 01:34:52,067
Speaker 7: back on the losses and what I did individual as

1872
01:34:52,067 --> 01:34:56,387
Speaker 7: an individual, as an individual player, the impact that was

1873
01:34:57,147 --> 01:34:58,227
Speaker 7: what I probably hold onto.

1874
01:34:58,827 --> 01:35:01,667
Speaker 2: What's interesting because and amongst you know, many of the defeats,

1875
01:35:01,747 --> 01:35:04,667
Speaker 2: you were still individually brilliant and recognized as such. But

1876
01:35:04,707 --> 01:35:07,027
Speaker 2: I can understand how that would be phaps pailing by

1877
01:35:07,067 --> 01:35:10,747
Speaker 2: comparison compared to the way the team had gone. There

1878
01:35:10,787 --> 01:35:14,347
Speaker 2: are some harrowing parts to your life story as well.

1879
01:35:14,387 --> 01:35:18,027
Speaker 2: You've experienced some tough times personal loss. Were you always

1880
01:35:18,147 --> 01:35:21,107
Speaker 2: keen to include most things in this book?

1881
01:35:23,307 --> 01:35:24,147
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think I was.

1882
01:35:25,587 --> 01:35:27,507
Speaker 7: My intention for the book was just to tell my

1883
01:35:27,627 --> 01:35:30,947
Speaker 7: truth and my version of events, and I think I

1884
01:35:31,067 --> 01:35:37,627
Speaker 7: hadn't planned for maybe all the I mean, there's a

1885
01:35:37,667 --> 01:35:39,827
Speaker 7: lot of rocks that I've experienced in my life, and

1886
01:35:40,427 --> 01:35:41,947
Speaker 7: I don't know that that's same for all of that

1887
01:35:42,067 --> 01:35:44,107
Speaker 7: to come out, But when you read it there's a

1888
01:35:44,147 --> 01:35:46,307
Speaker 7: whole book, I think, well, that's actually quite a lot,

1889
01:35:47,667 --> 01:35:49,307
Speaker 7: and that's really one of the big things that I

1890
01:35:49,427 --> 01:35:52,107
Speaker 7: have gotten in terms of a lot of those challenges

1891
01:35:52,187 --> 01:35:55,587
Speaker 7: that I have, And the book is probably less about

1892
01:35:55,627 --> 01:35:57,627
Speaker 7: my sports and more about you know, some of those

1893
01:35:57,667 --> 01:36:01,107
Speaker 7: personal challenges that I've been through. So and I thought

1894
01:36:01,867 --> 01:36:03,667
Speaker 7: those stories that would be the tool because that's really

1895
01:36:03,707 --> 01:36:08,747
Speaker 7: what shaped me in terms of being an athlete, and

1896
01:36:09,347 --> 01:36:12,107
Speaker 7: the mums, mary and all of those.

1897
01:36:12,027 --> 01:36:15,067
Speaker 2: Kinds of things we see on the screen now. And

1898
01:36:15,147 --> 01:36:17,787
Speaker 2: I'm sure many people will find it hard to correlate

1899
01:36:17,907 --> 01:36:21,107
Speaker 2: that with you raising a bit of hell as a teenager.

1900
01:36:22,147 --> 01:36:23,947
Speaker 2: On the back of the book, it even says, you know,

1901
01:36:24,027 --> 01:36:26,147
Speaker 2: you were the town bully, which may be stretching things

1902
01:36:26,187 --> 01:36:28,147
Speaker 2: a bit, but how do you reflect on your teenager

1903
01:36:28,307 --> 01:36:28,547
Speaker 2: is now?

1904
01:36:29,827 --> 01:36:32,547
Speaker 26: I think you can shoot back and ask my high

1905
01:36:32,547 --> 01:36:33,227
Speaker 26: school principle.

1906
01:36:33,267 --> 01:36:37,347
Speaker 7: I think most of them would agree. Actually, I've had

1907
01:36:37,507 --> 01:36:41,107
Speaker 7: lots of feedback from my old school, so just you know,

1908
01:36:41,787 --> 01:36:44,387
Speaker 7: it's really interesting to hear from them. And I suppose

1909
01:36:44,427 --> 01:36:46,347
Speaker 7: that's the growth that they saw on me. But you know,

1910
01:36:46,627 --> 01:36:48,667
Speaker 7: also the honesty I think that I gave him a book.

1911
01:36:50,947 --> 01:36:52,547
Speaker 7: But yeah, I think it's interesting.

1912
01:36:52,667 --> 01:36:55,067
Speaker 12: You know, I suppose I wanted to.

1913
01:36:57,307 --> 01:37:00,027
Speaker 7: You know, people will see the athlete on the field,

1914
01:37:00,507 --> 01:37:04,427
Speaker 7: you know, the honey build honey, the presidenter and all

1915
01:37:04,467 --> 01:37:06,947
Speaker 7: of that, but I think, you know, I wanted to

1916
01:37:07,027 --> 01:37:09,987
Speaker 7: see what's actually in behind that and how I've got there.

1917
01:37:10,067 --> 01:37:14,227
Speaker 7: I think it goes back to I didn't want to

1918
01:37:14,307 --> 01:37:15,467
Speaker 7: be that token person.

1919
01:37:16,027 --> 01:37:16,187
Speaker 1: You know.

1920
01:37:16,627 --> 01:37:19,227
Speaker 7: There's a lot of feedback obviously you've see in the

1921
01:37:19,307 --> 01:37:21,187
Speaker 7: book that I read, you know, from.

1922
01:37:22,987 --> 01:37:24,547
Speaker 26: Just online bullying and things like that.

1923
01:37:24,627 --> 01:37:26,147
Speaker 7: You know, where they're like, oh, you just got that

1924
01:37:26,267 --> 01:37:26,987
Speaker 7: job because of.

1925
01:37:26,987 --> 01:37:28,067
Speaker 6: This and because of that.

1926
01:37:29,267 --> 01:37:32,787
Speaker 7: But I just I just wanted to Actually, yeah, I was.

1927
01:37:33,187 --> 01:37:37,427
Speaker 7: I was given the role with Sky through my playing career,

1928
01:37:38,067 --> 01:37:40,147
Speaker 7: but as I worked really really hard at as well,

1929
01:37:40,227 --> 01:37:42,347
Speaker 7: and I'm not perfect and I've still got a lot

1930
01:37:42,387 --> 01:37:45,427
Speaker 7: of growing to do and a lot of growth. I

1931
01:37:45,467 --> 01:37:47,587
Speaker 7: don't know that just like I did when I was

1932
01:37:47,627 --> 01:37:49,467
Speaker 7: playing on the foot of Field, I put a lot

1933
01:37:49,507 --> 01:37:50,067
Speaker 7: of weak into it.

1934
01:37:51,307 --> 01:37:55,187
Speaker 2: Yeah, I found that really interesting. You you're the bits

1935
01:37:55,187 --> 01:37:57,587
Speaker 2: about your introduction into television and how that had its

1936
01:37:57,587 --> 01:37:59,307
Speaker 2: own set of challenges, and the fact that you read

1937
01:37:59,347 --> 01:38:01,547
Speaker 2: some of the stuff online, which can I recommend to

1938
01:38:01,547 --> 01:38:04,267
Speaker 2: you don't ever do that. You've probably stopped doing it now,

1939
01:38:04,387 --> 01:38:07,147
Speaker 2: but man, the keyboard worry is just just forget about them.

1940
01:38:07,187 --> 01:38:09,387
Speaker 2: Do you feel do you feel comfortable in front of

1941
01:38:09,427 --> 01:38:09,987
Speaker 2: the camera now?

1942
01:38:11,867 --> 01:38:12,067
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1943
01:38:12,067 --> 01:38:12,227
Speaker 15: I do.

1944
01:38:12,667 --> 01:38:14,147
Speaker 26: I feel a lot more confident.

1945
01:38:14,427 --> 01:38:17,507
Speaker 7: I always get confidence out of my preparation that I do,

1946
01:38:17,747 --> 01:38:21,427
Speaker 7: you know, whatever game long covering and whatever my role

1947
01:38:21,587 --> 01:38:24,227
Speaker 7: is on that day. For me, I get confidence out

1948
01:38:24,267 --> 01:38:27,027
Speaker 7: of my preparation. And it's just like the same as

1949
01:38:27,027 --> 01:38:28,467
Speaker 7: if I was taking a foot of the field, you know,

1950
01:38:28,787 --> 01:38:30,427
Speaker 7: and you know when you've played a good game or

1951
01:38:30,467 --> 01:38:33,267
Speaker 7: when you've presented well or commentated well, and when you haven't,

1952
01:38:33,547 --> 01:38:35,827
Speaker 7: and sometimes you walk and I could have did that better.

1953
01:38:35,907 --> 01:38:37,987
Speaker 26: So I think it's it's still that the.

1954
01:38:38,027 --> 01:38:42,147
Speaker 7: Whole sports prey mentality, and that you're constantly assessing yourself,

1955
01:38:42,667 --> 01:38:44,747
Speaker 7: you know, while you're on camera, while you're off camera,

1956
01:38:44,947 --> 01:38:47,547
Speaker 7: during the game, after the game, and when I get

1957
01:38:47,587 --> 01:38:50,987
Speaker 7: home and the drive back to Hamilton. Just it's just constant,

1958
01:38:51,387 --> 01:38:54,787
Speaker 7: and it's just I think the way I'm made up

1959
01:38:54,907 --> 01:38:58,067
Speaker 7: in terms of my DNA, I just constantly wanted to do.

1960
01:38:58,187 --> 01:38:58,987
Speaker 11: Better for myself.

1961
01:38:59,347 --> 01:39:02,067
Speaker 2: Honey. It was I really enjoyed writing your book. It's

1962
01:39:02,067 --> 01:39:03,427
Speaker 2: been great to get the chance to chat to you

1963
01:39:03,467 --> 01:39:05,667
Speaker 2: about it. I hope you sell hepes, thanks for taking

1964
01:39:05,667 --> 01:39:08,587
Speaker 2: the time this after name thanks to no thank you, honey, honey,

1965
01:39:08,707 --> 01:39:09,507
Speaker 2: hitter me smiler.

1966
01:39:09,547 --> 01:39:09,707
Speaker 11: There.

1967
01:39:09,787 --> 01:39:11,947
Speaker 2: Her book is out. It's called Honey My Story of Love,

1968
01:39:12,027 --> 01:39:14,267
Speaker 2: Loss and Victory. And as I've said a couple of

1969
01:39:14,307 --> 01:39:15,907
Speaker 2: times at the top of the chat and during the chat,

1970
01:39:15,987 --> 01:39:19,747
Speaker 2: I found it a really interesting read, multi layered and

1971
01:39:19,987 --> 01:39:22,547
Speaker 2: painted a much bigger picture of Honey hitting me smiler

1972
01:39:22,587 --> 01:39:24,587
Speaker 2: than I had any idea about. I guess that's the

1973
01:39:24,707 --> 01:39:28,267
Speaker 2: reason autobiographies are written, aren't they who to fill in

1974
01:39:29,307 --> 01:39:31,547
Speaker 2: a lot of gaps. Not that I thought there were any,

1975
01:39:31,627 --> 01:39:33,307
Speaker 2: but like I say, without wanting to labor the point,

1976
01:39:33,347 --> 01:39:35,827
Speaker 2: I found it a really really good read. Honey Hitting

1977
01:39:35,867 --> 01:39:38,667
Speaker 2: Me Smile. It Honey, My Story of Love, Loss and

1978
01:39:39,107 --> 01:39:42,107
Speaker 2: Victory two twenty four. One of her former teams are

1979
01:39:42,307 --> 01:39:44,947
Speaker 2: The Key. We Ferns about an hour and ten minutes

1980
01:39:44,947 --> 01:39:47,147
Speaker 2: away from taking on the jill ARUs first of the

1981
01:39:47,307 --> 01:39:50,507
Speaker 2: Rugby League double header at a sold out Apollo Projects

1982
01:39:50,507 --> 01:39:53,027
Speaker 2: Stadium in christ Church five past six tonight. It's the

1983
01:39:53,107 --> 01:39:55,387
Speaker 2: Key was against the Kangaroos. Got on your christ Church

1984
01:39:55,427 --> 01:39:57,587
Speaker 2: for turning up in such big numbers, for selling it out.

1985
01:39:58,347 --> 01:40:01,067
Speaker 2: It's set to be quite the occasion there this afternoon

1986
01:40:01,107 --> 01:40:04,107
Speaker 2: for the Rugby League double header New Zealand against Australia

1987
01:40:04,147 --> 01:40:07,187
Speaker 2: in the Pacific Nations Championship. We'll take great When we

1988
01:40:07,307 --> 01:40:10,307
Speaker 2: come back, we'll talk about another Trans Tasman battle this

1989
01:40:10,427 --> 01:40:14,267
Speaker 2: time and Netball won the Constellation Cup. Test number three

1990
01:40:14,507 --> 01:40:16,347
Speaker 2: is in Perth tonight. We'll get you inside the self

1991
01:40:16,427 --> 01:40:20,027
Speaker 2: Ferns camp midquarter. Kimeoda Hooi is with us right after this.

1992
01:40:21,107 --> 01:40:24,627
Speaker 1: The Voice of Sport on your Home of Sport Weekend

1993
01:40:24,747 --> 01:40:28,587
Speaker 1: Sport with Jason Vyne and GJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's

1994
01:40:28,627 --> 01:40:29,747
Speaker 1: most trusted own builder.

1995
01:40:29,827 --> 01:40:34,347
Speaker 2: News TALKSBB two twenty seven on News TALKSB and Weekend Sport.

1996
01:40:34,507 --> 01:40:38,387
Speaker 2: New Zealand can claim Netball's Constellation Cup tonight if they

1997
01:40:38,507 --> 01:40:41,467
Speaker 2: win the third Test against Australia. This game is in

1998
01:40:41,627 --> 01:40:44,707
Speaker 2: Perth nine o'clock New Zealand time. New Zealand, of course

1999
01:40:44,747 --> 01:40:47,867
Speaker 2: won the first two Constellation Cup tests here in New Zealand,

2000
01:40:48,787 --> 01:40:49,747
Speaker 2: and my sister.

2001
01:40:49,627 --> 01:40:56,747
Speaker 25: Shot Jackson's Crocker rebound game over New Zealand. Comprehensive winners

2002
01:40:57,387 --> 01:41:00,467
Speaker 25: over Australia for the second game in a row.

2003
01:41:01,187 --> 01:41:01,987
Speaker 23: Again is he.

2004
01:41:02,107 --> 01:41:05,427
Speaker 2: Lever sixty three goals to fifty two.

2005
01:41:06,347 --> 01:41:10,307
Speaker 3: Another comprehensive win and they're backed up there.

2006
01:41:10,467 --> 01:41:12,507
Speaker 25: Impressive victory and willing to live on.

2007
01:41:12,987 --> 01:41:13,947
Speaker 7: We've done it. Again.

2008
01:41:14,107 --> 01:41:16,347
Speaker 2: Yeah, Malcom Jordan and Levon Willaring have the call for

2009
01:41:16,507 --> 01:41:19,267
Speaker 2: you tonight on Gold Sport and iHeartRadio from nine o'clock

2010
01:41:19,347 --> 01:41:22,307
Speaker 2: sixty three point fifty two in the second Test following

2011
01:41:22,387 --> 01:41:25,627
Speaker 2: the sixty four fifty victory and Test number one, can

2012
01:41:25,707 --> 01:41:28,867
Speaker 2: they continue that winning form on the other side of

2013
01:41:28,907 --> 01:41:32,147
Speaker 2: the Tasman Silver Ferns mid quarter camioder Poy joins us

2014
01:41:32,267 --> 01:41:34,667
Speaker 2: out of Western Australia, Kimi Order, thanks for taking the

2015
01:41:34,667 --> 01:41:36,027
Speaker 2: time for a chat on game day. What was the

2016
01:41:36,067 --> 01:41:39,147
Speaker 2: most pleasing aspect for the players and the coaching staff

2017
01:41:39,147 --> 01:41:41,787
Speaker 2: from those first two Test match victories?

2018
01:41:42,907 --> 01:41:43,107
Speaker 26: Yeah?

2019
01:41:43,227 --> 01:41:47,467
Speaker 27: I think actually we've been saying we've been training well

2020
01:41:47,587 --> 01:41:50,627
Speaker 27: and everything leading into a sort of England and then

2021
01:41:50,667 --> 01:41:53,147
Speaker 27: post England training well has been going good. But the

2022
01:41:53,227 --> 01:41:56,387
Speaker 27: most pleasing thing is transferring that onto the court and

2023
01:41:56,587 --> 01:41:58,587
Speaker 27: getting a good start and kind of getting on top

2024
01:41:58,627 --> 01:41:59,387
Speaker 27: of the Ozzies early.

2025
01:41:59,787 --> 01:42:02,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, just to build that momentum for our Why do

2026
01:42:02,227 --> 01:42:05,227
Speaker 2: you think that was harder to achieve during the Tiny

2027
01:42:05,307 --> 01:42:08,747
Speaker 2: Jamison Trophy series that preceded the Constellation Cup when you

2028
01:42:08,987 --> 01:42:10,147
Speaker 2: went down two one to England.

2029
01:42:12,347 --> 01:42:15,187
Speaker 27: I honestly don't know, but maybe just a bit of

2030
01:42:15,307 --> 01:42:18,507
Speaker 27: time leading into tiny Jamison where we were only like

2031
01:42:18,707 --> 01:42:20,947
Speaker 27: we only had a four day camp kind of as

2032
01:42:20,987 --> 01:42:23,547
Speaker 27: a team, but we've had that whole series to build

2033
01:42:23,627 --> 01:42:26,147
Speaker 27: and prepare and get some good learning and then yeah,

2034
01:42:26,187 --> 01:42:28,067
Speaker 27: we're able to kind of put it off to here

2035
01:42:28,107 --> 01:42:29,867
Speaker 27: the come tests on into against Buzzie.

2036
01:42:30,267 --> 01:42:32,387
Speaker 2: So now then big question, how do you keep that

2037
01:42:32,587 --> 01:42:35,307
Speaker 2: momentum going now that you're on the other side of

2038
01:42:35,347 --> 01:42:35,787
Speaker 2: the testment.

2039
01:42:36,667 --> 01:42:36,867
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2040
01:42:36,907 --> 01:42:40,387
Speaker 27: I think it's a balancing act of taking confidence from

2041
01:42:41,147 --> 01:42:42,867
Speaker 27: our first two tests that we've put out, but then

2042
01:42:42,907 --> 01:42:46,227
Speaker 27: also expecting Ouzie to come out firing again and just

2043
01:42:46,387 --> 01:42:49,027
Speaker 27: kind of being real disciplined in the early stages of

2044
01:42:49,107 --> 01:42:52,027
Speaker 27: the match, just to kind of keep at our game,

2045
01:42:52,587 --> 01:42:55,187
Speaker 27: and yeah, and just really going out there and backing Ouseurs.

2046
01:42:55,347 --> 01:42:57,507
Speaker 2: I guess the other difference is they'll have their home

2047
01:42:57,587 --> 01:43:00,347
Speaker 2: crowd behind them over here. In the two tests in

2048
01:43:00,507 --> 01:43:02,707
Speaker 2: New Zealand, you had great crowds, didn't you. How much

2049
01:43:02,747 --> 01:43:04,947
Speaker 2: do you feed off the energy of home crowds?

2050
01:43:05,867 --> 01:43:10,267
Speaker 27: Yeah, both arenas were massive for us. The crowds were

2051
01:43:10,307 --> 01:43:13,347
Speaker 27: so loud, the energy, the vibe, Yeah, it was just

2052
01:43:13,427 --> 01:43:16,227
Speaker 27: so awesome. And we've got to find that energy within

2053
01:43:16,307 --> 01:43:18,987
Speaker 27: ourselves and our bench when we're over here in oz

2054
01:43:19,107 --> 01:43:21,827
Speaker 27: there'll be a few che spread throughout the crowd. But yeah,

2055
01:43:21,947 --> 01:43:22,707
Speaker 27: we've just got to find that.

2056
01:43:22,747 --> 01:43:24,747
Speaker 2: With it, you always get a couple of sneaking in,

2057
01:43:24,827 --> 01:43:26,627
Speaker 2: that's for sure. Can you order how much of you

2058
01:43:26,827 --> 01:43:30,467
Speaker 2: enjoyed your mid court combination with Maddy Gordon in the

2059
01:43:30,547 --> 01:43:31,387
Speaker 2: first couple of tests.

2060
01:43:32,347 --> 01:43:35,387
Speaker 27: Yeah, it's been so cool. I think it's cool just

2061
01:43:35,467 --> 01:43:37,947
Speaker 27: to see the growth that we've had kind of from

2062
01:43:38,067 --> 01:43:40,427
Speaker 27: training and then putting it into the game. She's obviously

2063
01:43:40,547 --> 01:43:42,907
Speaker 27: the energizer. Bunny just goes hard right to the end,

2064
01:43:43,427 --> 01:43:45,707
Speaker 27: real dog it on defense, and yeah, it just kind

2065
01:43:45,707 --> 01:43:48,707
Speaker 27: of dominates that center position. But yeah, it's been real cool.

2066
01:43:48,747 --> 01:43:50,787
Speaker 27: And home wing are tax seeing it to quite nice.

2067
01:43:50,867 --> 01:43:52,907
Speaker 2: A little bit of a change, Oh that's good. Yeah,

2068
01:43:52,987 --> 01:43:55,667
Speaker 2: we'll wing attack, not exactly your your favorite position. I'll

2069
01:43:55,707 --> 01:43:57,507
Speaker 2: ask you that in a minute actually about if you

2070
01:43:57,587 --> 01:43:59,307
Speaker 2: do have a preference. But does it take a bit

2071
01:43:59,347 --> 01:44:02,787
Speaker 2: of time to establish the connections with the others when

2072
01:44:02,827 --> 01:44:05,227
Speaker 2: you come together. You play against one another for the

2073
01:44:05,267 --> 01:44:06,787
Speaker 2: first part of the year. When you come together, does

2074
01:44:06,827 --> 01:44:09,347
Speaker 2: it take a bit of time to establish those connections?

2075
01:44:10,147 --> 01:44:12,387
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think it does. It takes a little while

2076
01:44:12,547 --> 01:44:14,627
Speaker 27: just to yeah, kind of figure each other out and

2077
01:44:14,787 --> 01:44:16,747
Speaker 27: know where each other is going to run and how

2078
01:44:16,787 --> 01:44:18,307
Speaker 27: we like the ball and all of that sort of thing.

2079
01:44:18,907 --> 01:44:21,787
Speaker 27: But yeah, just pleasing how the growth that we've had

2080
01:44:22,227 --> 01:44:22,707
Speaker 27: as a team.

2081
01:44:22,787 --> 01:44:26,507
Speaker 2: Actually, So, do you have a preferred mid court position?

2082
01:44:27,707 --> 01:44:32,187
Speaker 27: I actually prefers center, but I'm obviously grateful to be

2083
01:44:32,387 --> 01:44:34,227
Speaker 27: on the court and playing in any position.

2084
01:44:34,707 --> 01:44:37,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, And apart from the fact, you know, we obviously

2085
01:44:37,947 --> 01:44:39,867
Speaker 2: know where the different positions are allowed to go on

2086
01:44:39,947 --> 01:44:41,267
Speaker 2: the court and that sort of thing. But what are

2087
01:44:41,347 --> 01:44:45,027
Speaker 2: the other key differences between playing center and playing wing

2088
01:44:45,067 --> 01:44:45,747
Speaker 2: attack as.

2089
01:44:45,627 --> 01:44:49,507
Speaker 27: You have been Yeah, wing attacks you kind of have

2090
01:44:49,627 --> 01:44:52,547
Speaker 27: to be more directive and run the whole attacking and

2091
01:44:52,707 --> 01:44:55,187
Speaker 27: run the center passes and you've got to got to

2092
01:44:55,227 --> 01:44:56,947
Speaker 27: take the lead. And in center, you're more of that

2093
01:44:57,107 --> 01:45:00,027
Speaker 27: linking role well, especially on attack, and that's kind of

2094
01:45:00,067 --> 01:45:02,787
Speaker 27: what I've been used to. So I've just taken like

2095
01:45:02,867 --> 01:45:04,467
Speaker 27: I've taken a little bit of time to find my

2096
01:45:04,587 --> 01:45:08,027
Speaker 27: feet just in that real minding wing attack position.

2097
01:45:08,187 --> 01:45:10,587
Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course part of it too is feeding

2098
01:45:10,827 --> 01:45:12,907
Speaker 2: into the shooting circle, which I guess you do as

2099
01:45:12,947 --> 01:45:14,387
Speaker 2: a center as well. But how nice is it to

2100
01:45:14,427 --> 01:45:16,947
Speaker 2: look into that circle and see Grace and wiki in there.

2101
01:45:18,267 --> 01:45:19,187
Speaker 24: Yeah, very nice.

2102
01:45:19,267 --> 01:45:22,467
Speaker 27: Say it just gives you huge confidence when she's really

2103
01:45:22,547 --> 01:45:24,267
Speaker 27: giving you the eyes and she really wants the bore,

2104
01:45:24,267 --> 01:45:25,507
Speaker 27: because it makes you want to just let it go

2105
01:45:25,587 --> 01:45:25,827
Speaker 27: to her.

2106
01:45:26,387 --> 01:45:27,867
Speaker 2: You were out of this team for a little while,

2107
01:45:28,227 --> 01:45:30,987
Speaker 2: a couple of years almost Actually you're back in now.

2108
01:45:31,067 --> 01:45:33,467
Speaker 2: Of course. How determined where you kim in order to

2109
01:45:33,707 --> 01:45:37,027
Speaker 2: return to the international fold out after being out for

2110
01:45:37,067 --> 01:45:37,907
Speaker 2: the last couple of years.

2111
01:45:39,067 --> 01:45:41,827
Speaker 27: Yeah, I think it's always been at the back of

2112
01:45:41,907 --> 01:45:45,547
Speaker 27: my mind. But the way because I've been not selected

2113
01:45:45,627 --> 01:45:48,147
Speaker 27: for a few years, the way I've approached that non

2114
01:45:48,227 --> 01:45:51,307
Speaker 27: selection has kind of changed over the years, and the

2115
01:45:51,467 --> 01:45:53,867
Speaker 27: last year or so, I've just kind of been just

2116
01:45:54,347 --> 01:45:57,667
Speaker 27: it is what it is, it's meant to be, it's

2117
01:45:57,707 --> 01:45:59,907
Speaker 27: meant to be, and yeah, just kind of really grateful

2118
01:45:59,987 --> 01:46:03,227
Speaker 27: to be back in the environment and yeah, seen coming

2119
01:46:03,307 --> 01:46:04,987
Speaker 27: off this season where I've just been a little bit

2120
01:46:05,027 --> 01:46:05,667
Speaker 27: more refreshed.

2121
01:46:05,947 --> 01:46:09,147
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you not have that mindset before?

2122
01:46:10,707 --> 01:46:10,907
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 27: Before, I think I kind of go and went into

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01:46:14,027 --> 01:46:17,107
Speaker 27: a little bit of overdrive and like finding every little

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01:46:17,147 --> 01:46:18,787
Speaker 27: single thing that I needed to do, and it kind

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01:46:18,827 --> 01:46:20,987
Speaker 27: of was probably to my detriment really and just kind

2127
01:46:21,027 --> 01:46:23,187
Speaker 27: of overthinking things a bit, but yeah, just kind of

2128
01:46:23,267 --> 01:46:26,627
Speaker 27: taking that more relax or not relaxed approach, but just

2129
01:46:27,467 --> 01:46:30,907
Speaker 27: bigger picture approach. And yeah, just really grateful to be back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's obviously working now. A change this year

2131
01:46:34,867 --> 01:46:38,587
Speaker 2: in the Constellation Cup is that if Australia happened to

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01:46:38,667 --> 01:46:42,147
Speaker 2: win Tests three and four and the series has drawn

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01:46:42,267 --> 01:46:45,107
Speaker 2: too too, we go into a situation after the fourth

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Speaker 2: test where you play almost like a mini game, two

2135
01:46:47,987 --> 01:46:51,787
Speaker 2: seven minute halves to decide who actually wins the Constellation Cup.

2136
01:46:51,827 --> 01:46:54,787
Speaker 2: Previously it was on points differential across the four games.

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01:46:54,827 --> 01:46:57,987
Speaker 2: Have you thought about without wanting to put the car

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01:46:58,067 --> 01:46:59,507
Speaker 2: before the horse. I'm sure you want to win one

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01:46:59,547 --> 01:47:01,427
Speaker 2: of these remaining two tests, but if it does finish

2140
01:47:01,467 --> 01:47:04,267
Speaker 2: too too. Have you thought about the extra time scenario

2141
01:47:04,387 --> 01:47:05,147
Speaker 2: after game four?

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01:47:06,827 --> 01:47:09,947
Speaker 27: We have mentioned it and very aware of what it

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01:47:10,027 --> 01:47:12,347
Speaker 27: could come to, but our plan is to really take

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01:47:12,427 --> 01:47:14,227
Speaker 27: this next game and so we don't have to be

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01:47:14,307 --> 01:47:14,867
Speaker 27: in that position.

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Speaker 2: No fair enough, I knew you were going to say that,

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01:47:17,947 --> 01:47:20,747
Speaker 2: and you're off to the Steel next year. How did

2148
01:47:20,787 --> 01:47:21,307
Speaker 2: that come about?

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Speaker 19: I am I think it just.

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Speaker 27: Came about because of just change. Really, I've been at

2151
01:47:26,387 --> 01:47:29,227
Speaker 27: the Tactics for what it been. Next year would have

2152
01:47:29,227 --> 01:47:31,947
Speaker 27: been my eighth year and no bad bud or anything.

2153
01:47:32,347 --> 01:47:35,187
Speaker 27: Loved every moment at the Tactics, but just with the

2154
01:47:35,267 --> 01:47:39,147
Speaker 27: shortest season next year, I was just like, sorry, why not,

2155
01:47:39,347 --> 01:47:40,667
Speaker 27: let's just give it a go, get out of my

2156
01:47:40,707 --> 01:47:42,827
Speaker 27: comfort zone, challenge myself, try something you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I hope that goes well for you. In

2158
01:47:44,947 --> 01:47:48,307
Speaker 2: the meantime, your focus is on the Silver Ferns in Australia.

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Speaker 2: Test three tonight in Perth, camioda all the best. I

2160
01:47:50,867 --> 01:47:53,067
Speaker 2: hope you don't have to get to that extra time scenario.

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Speaker 2: I hope you can get the job done either tonight

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01:47:55,227 --> 01:47:57,587
Speaker 2: or in Test number four. Thanks for your time today, cool,

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01:47:57,707 --> 01:47:59,907
Speaker 2: thank you, Thanks Tom caime me or to Poy then

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Speaker 2: Midcuarner from the Silver Fern So yeah, tonight nine o'clock

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Speaker 2: New Zealand time. This game is in Perth rac in Perth,

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01:48:07,507 --> 01:48:11,427
Speaker 2: and then Test number four is on Wednesday night John

2167
01:48:11,547 --> 01:48:14,867
Speaker 2: Cain Arena in Melbourne. Obviously, if the Silver Ferns were

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Speaker 2: to win tonight, they would sew up the Constellation Cup.

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01:48:17,587 --> 01:48:20,027
Speaker 2: If Australia win tonight, then we go to Game four

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Speaker 2: and that's mentioned If at the end of Game four,

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01:48:22,587 --> 01:48:25,387
Speaker 2: the series scorers two to two. Then we go to

2172
01:48:25,747 --> 01:48:29,307
Speaker 2: two seven minute halves to decide who takes home the

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01:48:29,387 --> 01:48:32,347
Speaker 2: Constellation Cup, which is a little bit annoying, I guess

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Speaker 2: given the fact that the Silver Ferns have had such

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01:48:34,627 --> 01:48:37,107
Speaker 2: convincing victories in the first two Test matches. I know

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01:48:37,147 --> 01:48:39,867
Speaker 2: they went into the series knowing that that wouldn't make

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01:48:39,907 --> 01:48:42,747
Speaker 2: a difference. But in previous years it would have a

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01:48:42,867 --> 01:48:46,307
Speaker 2: fourteen goal win in Test number one and then an

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Speaker 2: eleven goal victory in Test number two was at twenty five,

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01:48:49,667 --> 01:48:52,707
Speaker 2: So the plus twenty five at the moment the Silver Ferns,

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01:48:52,707 --> 01:48:55,147
Speaker 2: so they, I guess, in previous years, would have known

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01:48:55,227 --> 01:48:58,267
Speaker 2: that if they could even lose the two over there

2183
01:48:58,387 --> 01:49:02,107
Speaker 2: narrowly by a combined margin of less than twenty five points,

2184
01:49:02,147 --> 01:49:05,947
Speaker 2: then they'd take the Constellation Cup. Not to beat doesn't matter, victory,

2185
01:49:06,027 --> 01:49:10,467
Speaker 2: margins don't mean anything. It's extra netball, bonus netball. At

2186
01:49:10,467 --> 01:49:12,947
Speaker 2: the end of Test four in Melbourne on Wednesday night,

2187
01:49:13,467 --> 01:49:16,307
Speaker 2: if it's two to two at that point, twenty four

2188
01:49:16,347 --> 01:49:18,267
Speaker 2: away from three, we'll take another break, come back and

2189
01:49:18,387 --> 01:49:21,347
Speaker 2: head out to Mount smart Go Media Stadium. The scene

2190
01:49:21,387 --> 01:49:23,707
Speaker 2: again for Auckland FC and a home game in the

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01:49:23,747 --> 01:49:26,067
Speaker 2: A League Men's They beat Brisbane two nil a week ago.

2192
01:49:26,547 --> 01:49:29,187
Speaker 2: Can they repeat the dose this afternoon? Logan Rogerson, out

2193
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Speaker 2: of Auckland FC, joins us after.

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Speaker 1: This the big issues on and after fields Call oh

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Speaker 1: and GJ. Gunner Homes New Zealand's most trusted home. Milder

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Speaker 2: Coming up to forty on weekend sport Here on News Talks,

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01:49:46,627 --> 01:49:49,627
Speaker 2: he'd be round two in the A League Men's competition.

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01:49:49,707 --> 01:49:53,947
Speaker 2: Across this weekend. Auckland FC take on Sydney FC at

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01:49:53,987 --> 01:49:56,867
Speaker 2: go Media Mount Smart Stadium this afternoon four o'clock kickoff.

2202
01:49:56,867 --> 01:49:59,907
Speaker 2: In that one, Auckland FC started life with a two

2203
01:49:59,987 --> 01:50:07,387
Speaker 2: nil win over Brisbane last Saturday. Mister breeces Rogerson to

2204
01:50:07,547 --> 01:50:12,347
Speaker 2: breeze the provider. Rogerson with the finish and did.

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01:50:12,267 --> 01:50:13,067
Speaker 16: And he loved that.

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01:50:13,347 --> 01:50:19,707
Speaker 2: The hometown boy. He's doubled Auckland's money. They lead it

2207
01:50:19,787 --> 01:50:22,427
Speaker 2: to Yeah, high excitement and a great atmosphere at go

2208
01:50:22,507 --> 01:50:25,267
Speaker 2: Media Mount Smart last Saturday for the first game in

2209
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Speaker 2: Auckland f C's life. Let's hope for more of the

2210
01:50:27,227 --> 01:50:30,667
Speaker 2: same this afternoon when they take on Sydney FC. I'm

2211
01:50:30,747 --> 01:50:33,387
Speaker 2: hearing that tickets are tracking around the fifteen thousand mark,

2212
01:50:33,387 --> 01:50:37,267
Speaker 2: which is another excellent attendance. Logan Rogerson, the scorer of

2213
01:50:37,387 --> 01:50:39,787
Speaker 2: that goal. The first goal was an own goal. Logan Rogerson,

2214
01:50:39,827 --> 01:50:41,867
Speaker 2: the first Auckland f C player to get on the

2215
01:50:41,867 --> 01:50:44,747
Speaker 2: score sheet. He joins us now ahead of this afternoon's game. Logan,

2216
01:50:44,827 --> 01:50:47,667
Speaker 2: First of all, how was the overall experience and the

2217
01:50:47,787 --> 01:50:50,907
Speaker 2: occasion of game one at go Media last weekend?

2218
01:50:51,907 --> 01:50:56,547
Speaker 28: Yeah, experience was unreal. The way Auckland turned out for

2219
01:50:56,827 --> 01:51:01,427
Speaker 28: our first game was unbelievable. Even enjoying the warm up

2220
01:51:01,467 --> 01:51:04,827
Speaker 28: when the port started marching down the stairs, Yeah, it

2221
01:51:04,907 --> 01:51:08,827
Speaker 28: kind of gave me butterflies almost seeing them walk down,

2222
01:51:08,907 --> 01:51:10,787
Speaker 28: and yeah, I knew it was going to be good,

2223
01:51:10,987 --> 01:51:11,507
Speaker 28: a good game.

2224
01:51:11,787 --> 01:51:14,187
Speaker 2: And then coming out of the tunnel just before kickoff

2225
01:51:14,267 --> 01:51:16,467
Speaker 2: to pect stands, what.

2226
01:51:16,667 --> 01:51:17,027
Speaker 11: Was that like?

2227
01:51:18,347 --> 01:51:18,547
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2228
01:51:18,587 --> 01:51:18,827
Speaker 11: It was.

2229
01:51:19,387 --> 01:51:20,027
Speaker 18: It was surreal.

2230
01:51:20,107 --> 01:51:22,227
Speaker 28: You know, all my friends and family were there as well,

2231
01:51:22,347 --> 01:51:26,027
Speaker 28: and yeah, it's kind of my first time playing back

2232
01:51:26,067 --> 01:51:27,907
Speaker 28: in New Zealand in front of the big cloud like

2233
01:51:27,987 --> 01:51:31,427
Speaker 28: that now for three or four years, and yeah, honestly

2234
01:51:31,547 --> 01:51:34,667
Speaker 28: it was it was amazing and yeah, real happy of

2235
01:51:34,747 --> 01:51:37,747
Speaker 28: how you know the club put that day together and

2236
01:51:38,547 --> 01:51:39,947
Speaker 28: you know, the kind of the game was kind of

2237
01:51:39,947 --> 01:51:41,867
Speaker 28: the last piece of the jigsaw puzzle to make it

2238
01:51:42,067 --> 01:51:43,547
Speaker 28: like a real, real good that.

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01:51:44,147 --> 01:51:47,307
Speaker 2: Were there any nerves? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 28: I think you could kind of see it in the

2241
01:51:49,427 --> 01:51:53,587
Speaker 28: first ten to twenty minutes and then yeah, kind of

2242
01:51:53,787 --> 01:51:55,947
Speaker 28: once we got our first goal, I think things kind

2243
01:51:55,947 --> 01:51:58,467
Speaker 28: of settled down. But yeah, definitely for myself, I thought

2244
01:51:58,507 --> 01:52:02,267
Speaker 28: a little bit, you know, some nerves, but those kind

2245
01:52:02,307 --> 01:52:03,627
Speaker 28: of went away as the game went on.

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01:52:04,467 --> 01:52:07,667
Speaker 2: Tonil went so really good result to start. How happy

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01:52:07,987 --> 01:52:11,227
Speaker 2: were the players and importantly the coaching staff with the

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01:52:11,347 --> 01:52:12,587
Speaker 2: performance last weekend?

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01:52:13,867 --> 01:52:16,587
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think the Coast are happy to nil two

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Speaker 28: goals and a clean sheet. I think that game it

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01:52:20,427 --> 01:52:22,667
Speaker 28: was almost a bit of a relief. Obviously there was

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01:52:22,947 --> 01:52:25,147
Speaker 28: you know, three months to preseason and the build up

2253
01:52:25,227 --> 01:52:28,267
Speaker 28: leading it to their first game. So yeah, I think,

2254
01:52:28,627 --> 01:52:30,307
Speaker 28: you know, I think everyone has to be happy with

2255
01:52:30,387 --> 01:52:32,467
Speaker 28: the Til went on the first day.

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Speaker 2: Two goals, as you say, you got the second one.

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01:52:35,347 --> 01:52:36,707
Speaker 2: Talk us through it. How do you how do you

2258
01:52:36,787 --> 01:52:37,227
Speaker 2: remember it?

2259
01:52:38,867 --> 01:52:41,747
Speaker 28: I don't remember too much. I just remember the Franny

2260
01:52:41,867 --> 01:52:43,947
Speaker 28: kind of a good ball coming across the face of

2261
01:52:43,987 --> 01:52:46,507
Speaker 28: the box, and I just tried to get some good

2262
01:52:46,587 --> 01:52:49,587
Speaker 28: contact on it and keep the ball down because you know,

2263
01:52:49,707 --> 01:52:54,067
Speaker 28: sometimes those can go flying, flying over the goal. But yeah,

2264
01:52:54,267 --> 01:52:56,667
Speaker 28: and then obviously the celebration can kind of see him.

2265
01:52:56,667 --> 01:52:58,547
Speaker 28: I face, I was, I was buzzing.

2266
01:52:58,707 --> 01:53:01,867
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you say sometimes those go blazing over the bar, mate,

2267
01:53:02,107 --> 01:53:04,067
Speaker 2: I reckon seven or eight times out of ten they do. Not,

2268
01:53:04,187 --> 01:53:06,587
Speaker 2: just not not from you, I'm not talking. But it's

2269
01:53:06,627 --> 01:53:09,867
Speaker 2: a it's a really good finish, just a side foot

2270
01:53:10,027 --> 01:53:12,307
Speaker 2: rather than having a you know, having a real blast

2271
01:53:12,347 --> 01:53:15,027
Speaker 2: at it. You know, is that just something that came

2272
01:53:15,147 --> 01:53:17,027
Speaker 2: instinctively because you didn't have a lot of time to

2273
01:53:17,067 --> 01:53:20,027
Speaker 2: think about it. Really, Yeah, exactly.

2274
01:53:20,587 --> 01:53:23,147
Speaker 28: The boor's coming in quick, so I know you've got

2275
01:53:23,187 --> 01:53:25,187
Speaker 28: to try and use the pace of the ball really

2276
01:53:25,267 --> 01:53:27,827
Speaker 28: and kind of dis guide it in. And yeah, I'm

2277
01:53:27,827 --> 01:53:29,667
Speaker 28: happy to kind of stay down to be first.

2278
01:53:30,467 --> 01:53:32,547
Speaker 2: And as a striker, I mean, how much of a

2279
01:53:33,067 --> 01:53:34,627
Speaker 2: I don't know, even though if it's a burden you

2280
01:53:34,707 --> 01:53:36,947
Speaker 2: might be able to tell me to get your first

2281
01:53:37,027 --> 01:53:39,547
Speaker 2: goal chalked up nice and early. As a striker, how

2282
01:53:40,107 --> 01:53:41,667
Speaker 2: comforting and pleasing is that?

2283
01:53:43,267 --> 01:53:43,467
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2284
01:53:43,547 --> 01:53:46,387
Speaker 28: No, it's really pleasing. And yes, it's kind of good

2285
01:53:46,427 --> 01:53:48,187
Speaker 28: to get the first one, first one out of the way,

2286
01:53:49,027 --> 01:53:52,027
Speaker 28: and I even think maybe scoring earlier on the weekend's

2287
01:53:52,067 --> 01:53:54,947
Speaker 28: all why it's kind of helped with my confidence. And yeah,

2288
01:53:54,987 --> 01:53:57,387
Speaker 28: I guess you know, it's just building off my first

2289
01:53:57,427 --> 01:53:58,627
Speaker 28: I'm hoping I can get a few more.

2290
01:53:59,027 --> 01:54:01,307
Speaker 2: And head coach of Auckland FC, Steve Cricker was a

2291
01:54:01,347 --> 01:54:03,867
Speaker 2: striker himself. How helpful has he been to you?

2292
01:54:05,147 --> 01:54:06,107
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been really good.

2293
01:54:06,507 --> 01:54:10,227
Speaker 28: We always do finishing drills, you know, after the sessions

2294
01:54:10,267 --> 01:54:12,947
Speaker 28: with him, and yeah, he always kind of talks about,

2295
01:54:13,827 --> 01:54:15,987
Speaker 28: you know, wingers getting inside the box and that's where

2296
01:54:16,027 --> 01:54:18,627
Speaker 28: goals are going to be scored. And I think that's

2297
01:54:18,627 --> 01:54:20,627
Speaker 28: what I did on the weekend. So so hopefully you

2298
01:54:20,787 --> 01:54:21,947
Speaker 28: have to with me.

2299
01:54:22,307 --> 01:54:24,307
Speaker 2: I'm sure he will be. And I mean, how have

2300
01:54:24,427 --> 01:54:27,827
Speaker 2: you gone about establishing connections with the other attackers on

2301
01:54:27,907 --> 01:54:29,547
Speaker 2: the team. I mean, you're all new, this is a

2302
01:54:29,627 --> 01:54:31,667
Speaker 2: team that's been pulled together. I know you've had a

2303
01:54:31,667 --> 01:54:34,067
Speaker 2: few months together, but how have you gone about establishing

2304
01:54:34,147 --> 01:54:35,987
Speaker 2: those connections in the front third.

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01:54:37,387 --> 01:54:40,067
Speaker 28: Yeah, well, because sum obviously came in a little bit later,

2306
01:54:40,387 --> 01:54:44,507
Speaker 28: but ever since he's coming. You know, he's always talking

2307
01:54:44,627 --> 01:54:47,067
Speaker 28: what kind of the balls he wants, what kind of crosses,

2308
01:54:47,147 --> 01:54:50,267
Speaker 28: and I obviously know on the left hand side you

2309
01:54:50,347 --> 01:54:52,947
Speaker 28: got Frannie who can you know is a very good

2310
01:54:53,027 --> 01:54:54,307
Speaker 28: left foot with crossing.

2311
01:54:54,067 --> 01:54:56,907
Speaker 2: And Liam Gillian, I kind of I know what I'm

2312
01:54:56,947 --> 01:54:57,667
Speaker 2: going to get from.

2313
01:54:57,547 --> 01:54:59,347
Speaker 28: Him when he always wants to take a man on,

2314
01:54:59,467 --> 01:55:02,307
Speaker 28: So maybe timing the runs a little bit better when

2315
01:55:02,307 --> 01:55:05,867
Speaker 28: here's the ball and yeah, thanks like that, And so

2316
01:55:06,027 --> 01:55:08,147
Speaker 28: that's what preseason. It's been long, but it's been I

2317
01:55:08,187 --> 01:55:10,107
Speaker 28: guess good because you know we kind of figure out

2318
01:55:10,147 --> 01:55:12,627
Speaker 28: each other. That's good.

2319
01:55:13,067 --> 01:55:15,827
Speaker 2: And you captain by a bit of a Japanese legend

2320
01:55:15,907 --> 01:55:19,227
Speaker 2: and Hiroki Sakai, can you talk a bit about his

2321
01:55:19,627 --> 01:55:20,987
Speaker 2: influence on the side.

2322
01:55:22,547 --> 01:55:27,227
Speaker 28: Yeah, massive influence. Obviously everyone talks about his English and stuff,

2323
01:55:27,267 --> 01:55:30,227
Speaker 28: but actually on the pitch, he's he's playing behind me,

2324
01:55:30,707 --> 01:55:33,347
Speaker 28: but he's communicating to me the whole game when to go.

2325
01:55:33,707 --> 01:55:36,827
Speaker 28: He makes my life a lot easier. And yeah, he's

2326
01:55:37,027 --> 01:55:38,787
Speaker 28: he's a lead in the change room. He's a funny

2327
01:55:38,827 --> 01:55:41,787
Speaker 28: guy and you know, I think he's got the trust

2328
01:55:41,867 --> 01:55:42,707
Speaker 28: of all us players.

2329
01:55:43,547 --> 01:55:45,747
Speaker 2: And what do you expect from Sydney g FC this afternoon?

2330
01:55:47,547 --> 01:55:48,987
Speaker 28: Yeah, I think they're going to be They're going to

2331
01:55:49,027 --> 01:55:51,427
Speaker 28: try and keep the ball a lot. They're front three

2332
01:55:51,467 --> 01:55:53,667
Speaker 28: is obviously very dangerous, so you know, a lot of

2333
01:55:53,707 --> 01:55:56,987
Speaker 28: link up play, they have a lot of freedom. So yeah,

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Speaker 28: I think we just kind of have to defend together

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01:56:00,187 --> 01:56:02,227
Speaker 28: and you know, we know they have tricky players, so

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Speaker 28: maybe doubling up helping teammates on the pitch and so yeah,

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01:56:08,027 --> 01:56:10,987
Speaker 28: so they're a great team. But also they've traveled a

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Speaker 28: lot this week, so hopefully we can use that to

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Speaker 28: our advantage.

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Speaker 2: And I know you're only focused on Sydney FC, but

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01:56:17,827 --> 01:56:20,987
Speaker 2: have you got even half an eye on the derby

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Speaker 2: next weekend?

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Speaker 28: Yeah, of course, I think. You know, before the season

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01:56:25,347 --> 01:56:28,147
Speaker 28: it seems even started. You know, it's what everyone's talking about.

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Speaker 28: And yeah, you know we have a game of speaking.

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01:56:30,347 --> 01:56:32,987
Speaker 28: But you know, for me then, you know, it's kind

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01:56:32,987 --> 01:56:34,227
Speaker 28: of in the back of my mind a little bit.

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01:56:34,627 --> 01:56:37,667
Speaker 28: You know, National team windows and stuff. Everyone kind of

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01:56:37,867 --> 01:56:40,387
Speaker 28: has a little bit of banter about it, and you know,

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01:56:40,707 --> 01:56:44,347
Speaker 28: can't sit next to you now it's a kind of banter.

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01:56:44,507 --> 01:56:47,827
Speaker 28: But no, it's yeah, we've got to gain this speaking.

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01:56:47,947 --> 01:56:50,307
Speaker 28: But yeah, I think the derby is one that you know,

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01:56:50,387 --> 01:56:54,187
Speaker 28: everyone's looking forward to Royal Club as well, So now

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01:56:54,347 --> 01:56:55,627
Speaker 28: I'm excited for that one as well.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody is. And you talked about about the

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01:56:58,347 --> 01:56:59,947
Speaker 2: national team. There you're back in the all Whites mix.

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01:57:00,027 --> 01:57:02,587
Speaker 2: You've played the last four matches, score that cracking goal

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Speaker 2: against Malaysia. How motivated are you to be involved in

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01:57:05,667 --> 01:57:06,867
Speaker 2: the push to the next World Cup?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 28: Really motivn Like it's just around the corner now, so

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01:57:12,307 --> 01:57:16,987
Speaker 28: you know, being involved these qualifiers and stuff. Yeah, you know,

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01:57:17,067 --> 01:57:20,347
Speaker 28: I'm really excited and even being a part of this group,

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01:57:20,427 --> 01:57:22,987
Speaker 28: you know, like sitting on the bench and watching some

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01:57:23,187 --> 01:57:25,427
Speaker 28: of these guys play. You know, I could name the

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01:57:25,467 --> 01:57:27,627
Speaker 28: whole starting eleven, but most of them playing at a

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01:57:27,707 --> 01:57:31,427
Speaker 28: top level. It's crazy to see how good some of

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Speaker 28: these New Zealand players are now.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's something you'll be a part of as well,

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01:57:36,027 --> 01:57:38,107
Speaker 2: no doubt your immediate point of business though, Sydney you

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01:57:38,187 --> 01:57:40,467
Speaker 2: FC this afternoon at Mount Smart all the best, Logan,

2372
01:57:40,507 --> 01:57:42,827
Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time for a chat mate. Cheers,

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01:57:42,907 --> 01:57:46,107
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Logan, Logan Rogerson. They're out of

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01:57:46,147 --> 01:57:48,107
Speaker 2: Auckland FC scored a goal last week in the two

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01:57:48,147 --> 01:57:50,067
Speaker 2: mil went over Brisbane and we're looking for more this

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01:57:50,187 --> 01:57:52,587
Speaker 2: afternoon when they take on Sydney FC. Four o'clock kickoff.

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01:57:52,987 --> 01:57:56,147
Speaker 2: Nice day in Auckland, so it should be good conditions

2378
01:57:56,187 --> 01:57:59,347
Speaker 2: for football. Your next weekend is going to be going

2379
01:57:59,427 --> 01:58:02,867
Speaker 2: to be quite something, the first ever professional football derby

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01:58:03,067 --> 01:58:05,827
Speaker 2: in New Zealand as Auckland FC head to Wellington to

2381
01:58:05,907 --> 01:58:09,187
Speaker 2: take on at Wellington Phoenix at sky Stadium. The Phoenix

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01:58:09,427 --> 01:58:11,427
Speaker 2: got to win last night beat Perth Glory two Nils,

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01:58:11,467 --> 01:58:14,187
Speaker 2: so they'll be in high spirits as they fly back.

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01:58:14,907 --> 01:58:19,587
Speaker 2: Big crowd in coming, I understand next Saturday at sky Stadium.

2385
01:58:19,627 --> 01:58:22,667
Speaker 2: They're talking at least twenty thousand and probably more so.

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01:58:22,907 --> 01:58:25,667
Speaker 2: I set to be quite the occasion when when Wellington

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01:58:25,707 --> 01:58:29,347
Speaker 2: Phoenix and Auckland FC do battle next next Saturday afternoon.

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01:58:29,387 --> 01:58:33,227
Speaker 2: That's a five o'clock kickoff at sky Stadium next Saturday.

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01:58:33,947 --> 01:58:36,267
Speaker 2: What are we eleven and a half away from three?

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01:58:36,347 --> 01:58:37,827
Speaker 2: Back in a second Newstalk's EDB.

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Speaker 1: When it's down to the line, you made a call

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty ten eighty Weekend Sports with Jason Hine,

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01:58:45,307 --> 01:58:46,107
Speaker 1: News Talks VB.

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Speaker 2: Just on eight and a half to three. I just

2395
01:58:47,787 --> 01:58:49,267
Speaker 2: want to circle back to where we started the show,

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01:58:49,267 --> 01:58:52,107
Speaker 2: which is at the cricket of course and New Zealand's

2397
01:58:52,427 --> 01:58:55,747
Speaker 2: historic Test series win over India in India. Just a

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01:58:55,787 --> 01:58:58,747
Speaker 2: couple of final words from captain Tom Latham about what

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01:58:58,827 --> 01:58:59,507
Speaker 2: the win means.

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Speaker 29: Yeah, sort of lost for words a little bit. Yeah,

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01:59:03,387 --> 01:59:07,587
Speaker 29: Tom's immensely proud moment for this group. I think obviously

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01:59:07,667 --> 01:59:10,667
Speaker 29: coming off the back of a schuel Ankan series where

2403
01:59:11,227 --> 01:59:13,027
Speaker 29: we obviously didn't get the results that we wanted to

2404
01:59:13,987 --> 01:59:17,107
Speaker 29: come here and play the style of cricket that we've played. Yeah,

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01:59:17,147 --> 01:59:20,507
Speaker 29: obviously immensely crowd. I guess to be in the position

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01:59:20,627 --> 01:59:23,707
Speaker 29: of winning two Test matches here. A lot of New

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01:59:23,747 --> 01:59:26,547
Speaker 29: Zealand teams have come here over the past sixty nine years.

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01:59:26,587 --> 01:59:30,267
Speaker 29: I think it is in thirteen series and I guess

2409
01:59:30,307 --> 01:59:32,547
Speaker 29: to be the first team to win a series over

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01:59:32,587 --> 01:59:37,147
Speaker 29: here as emensely special when ye'ah very proud of this group.

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01:59:37,307 --> 01:59:40,427
Speaker 2: And just a word from Tom Latham on the absolutely

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01:59:40,547 --> 01:59:44,907
Speaker 2: super human performance of Mitchell Santner taking thirteen wickets to

2413
01:59:44,987 --> 01:59:46,387
Speaker 2: bowl New Zealand to this victory.

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01:59:46,627 --> 01:59:49,107
Speaker 29: Yeah, he was like, he did a fantastic job. I

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01:59:49,147 --> 01:59:52,667
Speaker 29: think obviously the wickets that he got, but you know,

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01:59:52,787 --> 01:59:54,787
Speaker 29: I think it will go unnoticed. The amount of the

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01:59:54,827 --> 01:59:57,587
Speaker 29: amount of Ovz bowl back to back. I think will

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01:59:57,627 --> 02:00:00,227
Speaker 29: bowl won over with the new ball from that end

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02:00:00,307 --> 02:00:05,147
Speaker 29: and much bold the rest. So look, someone like that

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Speaker 29: to come and bolve that amount of overs to keep

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02:00:08,907 --> 02:00:11,587
Speaker 29: being a threat for that amount of time. I keep

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02:00:11,667 --> 02:00:13,027
Speaker 29: trying to take him off, but he kept taking a

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02:00:13,067 --> 02:00:16,067
Speaker 29: work at so I said, you can keep going. But yeah, look,

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02:00:16,267 --> 02:00:19,627
Speaker 29: I can't praise him enough in terms of what he's

2425
02:00:19,627 --> 02:00:21,907
Speaker 29: done this game. He was, Yes, e simply fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It's Tom Latham speaking about Mitchell Sanna of course, after

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Speaker 2: his incredible performance in the second Test. Let's not forget

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02:00:30,507 --> 02:00:33,587
Speaker 2: there was a third Test between these two sides starting

2429
02:00:34,187 --> 02:00:38,387
Speaker 2: on the first of November. When's that eight Friday? On

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Speaker 2: Friday is the third Test between India and New Zealand.

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02:00:41,347 --> 02:00:43,787
Speaker 2: It's dead robin now it's in Mumbai, but I'm sure

2432
02:00:43,867 --> 02:00:46,747
Speaker 2: New Zealand would absolutely love to make it three nil,

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02:00:47,067 --> 02:00:51,467
Speaker 2: something that seemed well just barely comprehensible at the start

2434
02:00:51,507 --> 02:00:53,907
Speaker 2: of this at the start of the series. But regardless

2435
02:00:53,907 --> 02:00:55,867
Speaker 2: of what happens in the third Test, they will come

2436
02:00:55,947 --> 02:00:59,427
Speaker 2: home with an historic first ever Test when in India.

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02:01:00,427 --> 02:01:02,547
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Into the show this afternoon. Huge

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02:01:02,587 --> 02:01:05,307
Speaker 2: thanks to Annie McDonald for producing as always and for

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02:01:05,707 --> 02:01:07,787
Speaker 2: answering the phone, doing all the heavy lifting and making

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02:01:08,107 --> 02:01:12,507
Speaker 2: everything come together relatively seemly. I say relatively because I

2441
02:01:12,627 --> 02:01:15,147
Speaker 2: still have to execute it, and sometimes that doesn't happen.

2442
02:01:15,907 --> 02:01:19,947
Speaker 2: But for an exit song today, with Mitchell Santna bowling

2443
02:01:20,067 --> 02:01:22,627
Speaker 2: so well, spinning the ball so well, I've gone to

2444
02:01:22,707 --> 02:01:27,907
Speaker 2: the Spinners, a remake of the I think the Four

2445
02:01:27,987 --> 02:01:30,387
Speaker 2: Seasons did this song first, but the back end of

2446
02:01:30,427 --> 02:01:33,867
Speaker 2: the seventies into the eighties, The Spinners, any one of

2447
02:01:33,907 --> 02:01:37,147
Speaker 2: your favorite disco bands, never heard of them? This is

2448
02:01:37,187 --> 02:01:42,747
Speaker 2: the Spinners, Mitchell Santner's favorite group. Working my way back

2449
02:01:42,787 --> 02:01:45,547
Speaker 2: to you. We're back on I was going to say

2450
02:01:45,547 --> 02:01:48,587
Speaker 2: back on Sports Talk tomorrow night. We're not Labor Day,

2451
02:01:48,707 --> 02:01:51,507
Speaker 2: so we'll see you next Saturday as we build towards

2452
02:01:51,547 --> 02:01:54,707
Speaker 2: the next All Blacks test against England, twicking him next

2453
02:01:54,747 --> 02:01:56,747
Speaker 2: Sunday morning. Lots of other bits and pieces as well,

2454
02:01:56,787 --> 02:01:58,747
Speaker 2: but you have an excellent week and we'll see you

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Speaker 2: Saturday five an hour.

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Speaker 23: George pay I be burning my way back to you,

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02:02:11,067 --> 02:02:17,067
Speaker 23: BA with a burning of inside way. I'm working my

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02:02:17,307 --> 02:02:21,867
Speaker 23: way back to you by and I have been asked

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02:02:21,987 --> 02:02:25,107
Speaker 23: that I'm lad again away.

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Speaker 24: My mode is kind along.

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Speaker 23: I just not again back away Wall. I'm here to

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Speaker 23: sl me for acting that way. I'm in the sal girl,

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02:02:55,307 --> 02:03:00,027
Speaker 23: I'm here to save me. I'm getting you last Wall,

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02:03:01,307 --> 02:03:05,587
Speaker 23: Oh please or paying girl from off?

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02:03:07,067 --> 02:03:08,347
Speaker 2: Won't you forgive me?

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02:03:11,547 --> 02:03:12,307
Speaker 23: Forgive me?

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02:03:13,747 --> 02:03:14,027
Speaker 28: Listen?

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02:03:16,987 --> 02:03:17,627
Speaker 23: I want you.

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02:03:29,387 --> 02:03:30,107
Speaker 4: The word.

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Speaker 17: And I have.

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Speaker 1: For more From Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live

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