WEBVTT - Heavy rain, thunderstorms and flooding: Where is summer?

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<v Speaker 1>Kioda.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Chelsea Daniels and this is the Front Page, a

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<v Speaker 2>daily podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Presented by the New Zealand Herald.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all rain and no shine this week across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Warm tropical air sitting north of New Zealand has brought

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<v Speaker 2>with it thunderstorms and rain warnings for Northland, Auckland, Great

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<v Speaker 2>Barrier Island and the Corimandal Peninsula. Crews have already been

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<v Speaker 2>working on clearing slips along State Highway to between or

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<v Speaker 2>Portucky and Gisbon. So what is the outlook for this

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<v Speaker 2>week and when will Mother Nature give us all a break?

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<v Speaker 2>Today on the Front Page, Newer Principal Scientist Chris Brandolino

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<v Speaker 2>is with us to take us through what to expect

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<v Speaker 2>and when we might be able to put the sheets

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<v Speaker 2>on the line. First off, is what is driving this

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<v Speaker 2>stormy where the New Zealand is experiencing at the moment moisture.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting tropical moisture. There's a tropical low well to

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<v Speaker 3>our north over north and west of New Caledonia in

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<v Speaker 3>the tropics right and that is going to move south.

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<v Speaker 3>That low it's disorganized, but what it has with it

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot of moisture from the tropics now separate

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<v Speaker 3>to that, there's a another low. There's a separate low

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<v Speaker 3>over the Tasman Sea. So the two are going to

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<v Speaker 3>work together to provide us this really wet period. We've

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<v Speaker 3>already seen the rain and the wind, but that's really

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<v Speaker 3>going to increase and should reach its apex sometime during

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<v Speaker 3>the day on Thursday or Wednesday, I beg your pardon,

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps even into early Thursday for some.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So how's it looking at the for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the wake for the country?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so look, I think going kind of step by step.

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<v Speaker 3>So when we're trying to understand what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>with the weather in this case, let's say rainfall, what

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing is we're looking looking at modeling. So modeling

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<v Speaker 3>tries to tell us meteorologists what the atmosphere is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be like in a day, an hour, and a week.

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<v Speaker 3>So we can actually look at what's called scenarios. So

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<v Speaker 3>we have in house this model called New Zealand Ensemble System.

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<v Speaker 3>There's eighteen scenarios eighteen and we can look at those

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<v Speaker 3>scenarios and try to understand what are the outcomes that

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<v Speaker 3>are on the table, what are the possibilities to consider

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<v Speaker 3>and if those eighteen outcomes start to look more similar

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<v Speaker 3>than dissimilar, that gives us some confidence that what is

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<v Speaker 3>being shown or what is most likely to happen, will happen.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we can take those eighteen outcomes and we

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<v Speaker 3>can say, right, here is a kind of a low

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<v Speaker 3>end scenario. We'll call it a dry scenario, and here's

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<v Speaker 3>the middle of the road scenario, and here is a

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<v Speaker 3>wet scenario, kind of a worst case scenario. So you

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<v Speaker 3>can look at three scenarios, and that's really helpful because

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<v Speaker 3>it gives people an idea, Well, if things got really

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<v Speaker 3>gnarly and nasty, what could that look like? Or hey,

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<v Speaker 3>what if things actually settled down and wasn't so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe as the worst case scenario, kind of a low

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<v Speaker 3>end scenario, what does that look like? And when you

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<v Speaker 3>look at that sort of middle of the road scenario

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<v Speaker 3>or the higher end scenario, places like the Coramandal, places

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<v Speaker 3>like Eastern Northland, places like Bay of Plenty, Tadasaiti, Gisbon.

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<v Speaker 3>Those areas have the highest risk for seeing some really

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<v Speaker 3>heavy rainfall. We're talking one hundred to maybe even two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred millimeters of rain and a pretty short period of time.

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<v Speaker 3>And Northland. As you know, we had the flooding over

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<v Speaker 3>the weekend on Sunday. So the concern there is that

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<v Speaker 3>you already had flooding, now you're gonna get more rain.

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<v Speaker 3>That could be kind of a that unfortunately, could be

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<v Speaker 3>a situation where flooding it occurs when normally it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>simply because the ground is so wet.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a recipe for slips as well?

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<v Speaker 3>It is exactly. Yeah, So oftentimes when the ground becomes

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<v Speaker 3>really saturated, it becomes quite heavy and things could peel

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<v Speaker 3>off and you get things falling from side the cliffs

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<v Speaker 3>and higher elevation. So that's a really good point. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>things like landslips, those kind of go part and parcel

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<v Speaker 3>with the heavy rainfall. And with that heavy rainfall, the

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<v Speaker 3>risk of flooding obviously becomes a real concern. As I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 3>So we can look at where the potential of river

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<v Speaker 3>flooding is most likely. So if you take the rainfall

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<v Speaker 3>forecast and assuming that's reasonably accurate it's not way off,

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<v Speaker 3>you can then put it into a river flow model

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<v Speaker 3>and say, right, where are the flows likely to be,

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<v Speaker 3>say above average or extremely high. And when you get

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<v Speaker 3>into that extremely high category that is where river flooding

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<v Speaker 3>becomes most likely, So places like Northland, the Coremandel Bay

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<v Speaker 3>of Plenty, those are the areas worth watching for the

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<v Speaker 3>river flooding. Other areas, I'm sure are candidates, but in

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<v Speaker 3>terms of the highest risk likely in those areas, and

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<v Speaker 3>that's where METS are us our friends at MET Service,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where they have those weather warnings. So obviously

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<v Speaker 3>you want to stay on top of the warnings because

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<v Speaker 3>those are the areas that are going to be of

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<v Speaker 3>greatest risk for significant impacts such as the rain, but

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<v Speaker 3>also the wind wind coming from the east, that's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of an unusual wind direction. You combine in an usual

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<v Speaker 3>wind direction with an extended period. We're talking twelve twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours of wing GUS is sixty seventy and during

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<v Speaker 3>the day on Wednesday could approach eighty ninety or one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred kilometers per hour on wet soils. That does increase

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<v Speaker 3>or elevate the odds for things like tree damage and

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<v Speaker 3>power cuts, and we've already seen some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of when we should see the worst of

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<v Speaker 2>it and when we should be on the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of it, is it really looking at Wednesday or tomorrow here.

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<v Speaker 3>I think by Thursday morning we'll start to see some

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<v Speaker 3>significant improvement for probably much of the country, much of

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<v Speaker 3>the North Island. Keep in mind this is chiefly a

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<v Speaker 3>North Island event. It is worth watching as look at

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<v Speaker 3>some of the maps here. We will have to keep

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<v Speaker 3>an eye on the eastern South Island. It is possible

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<v Speaker 3>that they could see some heavy rain later on Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's worth mentioning that. But I think once we

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<v Speaker 3>get into Thursday afternoon we will start to see the

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<v Speaker 3>certainly the rain go away. It's probably gonna remain a

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<v Speaker 3>bit blustery, probably unfortunately for much of Thursday. I know

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<v Speaker 3>we have a long weekend coming up for the Upper

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<v Speaker 3>North Island Auckland anniversary and people are hoping for some

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<v Speaker 3>good weather. Unfortunately that doesn't look to be the case.

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<v Speaker 3>But we can maybe bookmark that and circle back to

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<v Speaker 3>that if you want in a minute or two. But

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<v Speaker 3>regarding this weather right now or the upcoming weather, I

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<v Speaker 3>really think it's Wednesday into Wednesday night and too early Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>with the top of the country i e. Northland getting

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<v Speaker 3>the worst weather first, and areas like Bay have plenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Tadasa di Gisban that coming a bit later. But that

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<v Speaker 3>also means Northland will likely say, see some improvement earlier

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<v Speaker 3>because their weather will go downhill earlier as well.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, Chris, I wanted to talk about anniversary weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I tell you now, I mean, I suppose a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people have those bad memories from the Animalsary Day, floods, cyclone, Gabrielle.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is this just what we're having to get

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<v Speaker 2>used to at this time of year?

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<v Speaker 3>As we all know, bad weather happens all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>When I say all the time, I mean it isn't like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, we haven't seen this in five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad weather happens, you know, It's part of life. But

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<v Speaker 3>what I can say is that when we get these

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<v Speaker 3>big events, these higher end events, it is congruent with

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<v Speaker 3>our expectations of a warming climate. What do I mean

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<v Speaker 3>by that when our planet our temperature warms. What that

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<v Speaker 3>does is that when you take a big weather event,

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<v Speaker 3>which have always happened. But what climate change does. It

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<v Speaker 3>makes three things. It makes the big weather event or

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<v Speaker 3>the extreme weather event a more likely to happen. B

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<v Speaker 3>it makes those events more frequent, and C it makes

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<v Speaker 3>those big weather or extreme weather events more well extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is what is happening. And so when we

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<v Speaker 3>get these weather events, if this same weather event were

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<v Speaker 3>to occur fifty years from now, unfortunately, it's likely to

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<v Speaker 3>produce even bigger impacts, more rain and things like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So big weather events have always happened, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>because of climate change, what we're seeing is that they

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<v Speaker 3>tend to happen more frequently. That tend to happen, they

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<v Speaker 3>tend to be more likely to occur, and when they

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<v Speaker 3>do occur, they can run the risk of being even

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<v Speaker 3>more extreme than they say. We're fifty years ago or

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>So when people think of summer that I think of

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<v Speaker 2>beach days and hanging your sheets out on the line

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<v Speaker 2>and having them dry and five minutes of that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. I mean, when do you think, do you

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<v Speaker 2>think summer is over in that respect?

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<v Speaker 3>Gosh, oh no, no, no, no, summer is not. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just getting started now. Look we're in mid January here,

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<v Speaker 3>so we still have a good you know, ten days

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<v Speaker 3>before the end of January, and we got all feb

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<v Speaker 3>which I know is kind of a short month. There's

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<v Speaker 3>no mistaking that. But keep in mind, here's a good

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<v Speaker 3>thing about being an island nation. An island nation, we're

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<v Speaker 3>surrounded by water. Right, here's a good thing. Our ocean

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<v Speaker 3>temperatures reach their apex, reach their highest typically in about

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<v Speaker 3>early mid February. Well, why is that a big deal?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that helps to keep us warmer a bit longer.

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<v Speaker 3>So as we go into March, our ocean temperatures are

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<v Speaker 3>really quite warm still, they're coming off, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not too far removed from when they're at their highest,

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<v Speaker 3>and as a consequence, that has an upward influence on

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<v Speaker 3>our air temperatures. What am I saying? March can often

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<v Speaker 3>be an extension of summer. You know, Yeah, the days

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<v Speaker 3>are a bit shorter, but you can get some really

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<v Speaker 3>warm temperature still in some really nice weather. So summer

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<v Speaker 3>is not over now. It may feel like it. This weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna kid you there. This weekend is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be an apple how Doways say this. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>keep it polite here. It's not gonna be pleasant Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>If look for those, whether it's a long weekend for

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<v Speaker 3>you or not, Saturday looks absolutely it'll feel autumnal it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna feel like autumn. There's gonna be strong, gusty southwest winds,

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<v Speaker 3>which is a cold winden direction, and this time of

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<v Speaker 3>the year, when you get a chilly air in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of summer, the sun angle is still quite strong,

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<v Speaker 3>as we know. That creates an environment where we get

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<v Speaker 3>these really kind of gusty showers and thunderstorms. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>expecting on Saturday there is going to be across much

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<v Speaker 3>of the North Island, especially the hours, thunderstorms, maybe even

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<v Speaker 3>some hail. That is likely they persist into Sunday as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not looking good. I think Monday, the actual anniversary,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we can salvage it. Maybe one out of three

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<v Speaker 3>is okay. So if you're looking to enjoy the weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be chilly everywhere, unusually cool, and we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>chili for Midsummer, okay, We're not talking like winter chill,

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<v Speaker 3>though sudden they think it feels like it. I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you're looking to find the best weather this weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>where to go for that, it might actually be the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the South Island or maybe the parts of Otago.

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<v Speaker 3>They may sneak in a pretty good weekend, but those

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<v Speaker 3>areas too are gonna be chilly now. It won't last forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I think as we get into next week, we're likely

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<v Speaker 3>to see a change in the weather pattern. Things will moderate.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think for those who are in the

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<v Speaker 3>South Island or maybe going to do some holiday making

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<v Speaker 3>in the South Island, as we get toward the end

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<v Speaker 3>of January into early February, they're like they see some

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<v Speaker 3>chillier days. I think the South Island is going to

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<v Speaker 3>have days where it's chillier than usual, more of those

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<v Speaker 3>days than say the North Island. And I'm pretty confident

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<v Speaker 3>if we go farther out, if you want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about February, I do think February is shaping up to

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<v Speaker 3>be more of a potentially a warmer month than what

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<v Speaker 3>the last say, ten days of January are going to

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<v Speaker 3>give us. I e that cold snap I just talked about.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think we'll get into some warmer weather again.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is no, the summer is not over, that

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<v Speaker 3>is the short answer. I do think there's plenty more

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<v Speaker 3>summer to come. But you know, we still have to

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<v Speaker 3>keep our eyes to the north because anytime we get

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<v Speaker 3>weather coming from the north, that is when we get

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<v Speaker 3>these flooding events. That increases the odds or these flooding events.

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<v Speaker 3>The north has all the moisture. That's all that moisture is,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is fuel for heavy rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Does all of this have anything to do with La Nania?

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<v Speaker 3>Well done? Yeah, you've done your homework, so yes it does.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spoken to you enough to know who what is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So look for those who don't know what is,

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<v Speaker 3>Laanini is a climate driver. So you may be thinking,

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<v Speaker 3>what the heck's a climate driver? Basically a climate driver

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<v Speaker 3>when we're doing these long range outlooks, you know, for

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<v Speaker 3>the next two months, the next three months, and that

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing we want to what we what

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to do is first things first, who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be driving Mother Nature's car. If you know who's

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<v Speaker 3>driving Mother Nature's car, at least have a good idea, right,

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<v Speaker 3>then you're in good position to understand what the themes

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be like two months, three months. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>we're talking themes. It's not a weather forecast, and La

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<v Speaker 3>Nini is one of them. Linina is a climate driver,

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<v Speaker 3>and history tells us when we have La Nina, here's

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<v Speaker 3>what happens. We tend to get increased chances for lows

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<v Speaker 3>coming from the north. Tick. That's what we're seeing today,

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<v Speaker 3>tomorrow and through early Thursday, a low coming from the north.

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<v Speaker 3>We tend to get more easterlies and we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be seeing that the next couple of days. Tick. It

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't mean that happens all the time. It just means

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<v Speaker 3>you get less of those westerly winds, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>we typically see. You get a reduction of those, and

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<v Speaker 3>you get an increase of easterly winds and visitors from

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<v Speaker 3>the north. So an answer to your question, the short

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<v Speaker 3>answer is yes, this is consistent and congruent with what

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<v Speaker 3>we would expect with li Nina being at the steering

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<v Speaker 3>wheel of Mother Nature's car. Now Linin is actually going away,

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<v Speaker 3>it all takes some time for the weather to catch

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<v Speaker 3>up to Linina going away. These climate drivers tend to

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<v Speaker 3>have a long memory. They tend to you tend to

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<v Speaker 3>get Linina like weather patterns even when Linina is officially

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<v Speaker 3>or formally sort of in the rearview mirror or gone.

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<v Speaker 3>So I do think we still have to keep our

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<v Speaker 3>eyes to the north for these big weather, big rain

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<v Speaker 3>makers right through the autumn season. But here's a little

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<v Speaker 3>pro tip. Here's some Here's here's some behind the curtain

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<v Speaker 3>speak as we go into winter, so we're going way

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<v Speaker 3>out there and to spring. So later this year, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>six seven, eight, and nine months from now, it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like El Nino may be coming to the party, and

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<v Speaker 3>it looks like El Nino maybe become a climate driver.

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<v Speaker 3>What that looks like and what that means, we'll have

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<v Speaker 3>to wait and see. But just a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>heads up. If that were to occur, that would obviously

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<v Speaker 3>mean obviously mean different weather patterns than what is consistent

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<v Speaker 3>with La Nina. If that makes sense, we'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to speak about Nina's mate, Nino later this year.

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<v Speaker 4>Brush your Spanish, Chris, if you had to describe this

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<v Speaker 4>summer's weather sofar, how would you describe it in a sentence?

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<v Speaker 3>Mixed? There's a word, oh you, I'll cut it down

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<v Speaker 3>to one word. I would Yeah. Look, I know that's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of a you know, a bit of a cop

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<v Speaker 3>out potentially, but I mean, let's do a quick let's

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<v Speaker 3>do a quick, quick recap. Okay, December was very warm.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'll just sheut to my colleague chester Chester.

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<v Speaker 3>What was December? The December was that unusually? I was

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<v Speaker 3>in a usually warm month? Was it? I? Was in

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<v Speaker 3>the twenties. Yeah, I beg your party, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>in the top twenty five or top thirty, whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was unusually warm December, so I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like warmth. That was you know that happened. We

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<v Speaker 3>had those really hot temperatures in the eastern part of

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<v Speaker 3>both islands with those windy conditions, and then we had,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we had some pretty cold temperatures across the

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<v Speaker 3>South Island after New Year's so it has been mixed.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're dealing with this big rainfall across the country,

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<v Speaker 3>so it has been mixed. I do think, I do

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<v Speaker 3>think somewhere is not over with. As I said before, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>it'll feel like it this weekend for Auckland Anniversary weekend,

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<v Speaker 3>and it will feel like it at times for the

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<v Speaker 3>South Island for the end of the month. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think there's more summer to come, and I feel confident

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<v Speaker 3>about that. Look, I'm a husband, I'm a father, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a meteorologist, so I'm used to being wrong. But

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<v Speaker 3>we'll see how we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I won't pack away my bag each blanket just yet.

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<v Speaker 3>No, don't do that. That'd be silly. You'd be missing

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<v Speaker 3>out there'd be some, especially for the North I think

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<v Speaker 3>the North Island probably, Yeah, twenty seventh warmest, my colleague Chester,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for that. So you know, when you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we think of one hundred and ten Decembers, twenty said

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<v Speaker 3>with warmest, and that means something. But look, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the North Island, I think you have the best

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<v Speaker 3>chances for seeing more persistent summer type weather or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>quick essential summer like weather, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining us, Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me. I enjoy coming on the program.

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