1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside. Francesca Rudgin on 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: earlier is show Where's One roof Love? 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 2: Where You Live? 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: News talks, the'd be Good. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Morning, Welcome to early edition. I'm Francisco Budkin filling in 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: for Ryan who is on drives this week. Great to 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: have you with us. You most welcome to contact me 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: anytime this morning. You can flict me a text on 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: ninety two ninety two, or you can email me at 10 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 2: Francesca at newstooks atb dot co dot MZ. On the 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: show today, what impact will the accelerated four hundred and 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: thirteen million announced yesterday for school property have on the 13 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: construction sector? We look at the pros and cons of 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 2: the digital driver's license, and the long awaited overhaul of 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 2: the Holidays Act will be announced today. We find out 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: what's on businesses wish list. The agenda the UN General 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: Assembly has been underway in New York. Many things to 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: discuss today. Russian drones in Polish airspace. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: These latest acts are dangerous and reckless. They are a 20 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: deliberate attempt to undermine the territorial integrity of sovereign nations 21 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: and European security. They risk miscalculation, they open the door 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: to direct armed confrontation between NATO and Russia. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: France is gearing up to join the UK, Canada and 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Australia and recognizing a Palestinian state. 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 4: The more countries that recognize Palestine, the more hope it 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 4: gives for action, for change, for a push to get 27 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: those ceasefire talks back going again, because they really have 28 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: faltered in recent weeks, and many would say we're further 29 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 4: away from a deal at this point than any time 30 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: in the last since January. 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 2: Really, our foreign Minister Winston Peters is there, but still 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: no word on where New Zealand stands. Charlie Kirk's memorial 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: service in Phoenix, Arizona, brought in thousands. His wife, Erica, 34 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 2: delivered a tearful speech. 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 5: On the Cross. 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 6: Our Savior said, Father, forgive them. 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: For they not know what they do. 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 7: I forgive them. 39 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: And finally, Trump says he may have the answer to autism. 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: Reports suggest officials will link it to pregnant women using thailanol, 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: which as we also know as paracetamol. Trump's promising and 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: amazing announcement saying autism is out of control and they 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: may know why. 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: You'll see what it is tomorrow. 45 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: We have various things, but you'll see what it is. 46 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a very important as 47 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: conference and we want things to take them back immediately. 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: There's obviously something artificial that's really wrong that we think 49 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: we know what that is. 50 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: And that's the agenda. 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: On your radio and online on iHeartRadio early edition with 52 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Francesca Rutkin and one roof Love where you Live, News. 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: Talk said, be well, we're all about maintenance this week, 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: aren't we. On Sunday the government was all talk about 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 2: building more car parks and replacing boilers and adapting facilities 56 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: at our hospitals. And if that didn't get the message 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: across that the government is doing everything it can to 58 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: grow the trade and construction sector. Yesterday Eric Stanford announced 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 2: trades would be working and our schools over summer. So 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 2: after the GDP hiccup last week, the government is looking around. 61 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: It's going, okay, what have we budgeted for that we 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: can bring Ford and accelerating maintenance and building its schools 63 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: is a pretty good start. It's a lot of like 64 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: the health funding. The four hundred and thirteen million package 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: consists of old and new money. There's about fifty eight 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 2: million of it is new money, the rest existing, some 67 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 2: brought forward. I think this is a good idea, it 68 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: makes sense. It's quick adaptive behavior by the government. I mean, 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: you do wonder if they could have done it earlier. 70 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: Maybe Now though the government is listening to kiwi's out 71 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: there who are telling them they are not thriving in 72 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: twenty five. I can only see one problem which may 73 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: no longer be a problem considering these tough times. But 74 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: I've never been able to get a trade to work 75 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: over summer franchiers. 76 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 8: Good. 77 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: Now, that's a bit cheaking of rude, isn't it? And 78 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: I might get told off because coming up next we've 79 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: got Malcolm Fleming with us. He's the Certified Builder's chief executive. 80 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: He's going to talk to me about the reality of 81 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: this funding and the impact it will have. If you 82 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: are a tradee though, how do you feel about yesterday's announcement? 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: You're most welcome to text me on ninety two ninety two. 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: You're with Early Edition. It's ten plus five. 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 1: News and views you trust to start your day. It's 86 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: Early Edition with Franchesca Runkin and one roof Love where 87 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: you live news talks that'd. 88 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: Be today is of course the doctor's strike, and look, 89 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: I really feel for you if you're one of the 90 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 2: thirteen thousand affected patients by the senior doctors and dentists 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: strike today. I don't mind people fighting for what they 92 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: believe in, and I understand there are some fundamental issues 93 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: with the system that need fixing, but this has really 94 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: gone on for long enough. Sympathy for either side is 95 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: starting to wane. There has been a lot of finger 96 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 2: pointing as to who is to blame for these strikes today, 97 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 2: but at this point, more than a year down the track, 98 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: I'd have to suggest both sides need to take some 99 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: responsible for this. I think it's time we put our 100 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: big boy and big girl pantsil and got the sorted, 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: don't you think Texas ninety two ninety two Right as 102 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: I mentioned the government's pumping more money into schools to 103 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: prop up our struggling construction sector fifty eight million and 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 2: new funding and one hundred and seventy five million brought 105 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: forward funding. We'll go into maintenance work and fast tracking 106 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 2: school infrastructure. Nationwide constructions and deep decline down nearly ten 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: percent over the past years, so the tradees will be celebrating. 108 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 2: Malcolm Fleming, certified builder's chief executive, joins me. 109 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 8: Now morning Malcolm, Good morning, Francesca. Thank you for inviting 110 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 8: me on your program. 111 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 2: Oh that's all right. Hey, Look is this was this 112 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: good news yesterday? How needed is this? 113 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 8: It is very much needed And follows up from last 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 8: week when we're talking about gd Do you think it's 115 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 8: across the country eroading and constructions downward trendo that was 116 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 8: two point two percent, So we're talking about a good 117 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 8: jolt of investment coming quite quickly by the sound of 118 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 8: it as well. Is very welcome news. 119 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: Indeed, what difference do you think it will make to 120 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: the construction industry? I mean, can we measure how many 121 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: jobs it might create. 122 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 8: We can't measure how many jobs it will pay. But 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 8: I think it's fair to say that it will allow 124 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 8: builders and sub trades as well. So this is the 125 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 8: plumbers and electricians and so forth to get a sort 126 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 8: of forward workload of of projects ahead of them that 127 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 8: I can start relying on depending on where you are 128 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 8: in the country, and it can vary on what that 129 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 8: forward workload looks like. It is very very variable. So 130 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 8: for those who are thinking about their businesses, I can 131 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 8: keep the current staff levels. This is an opportunity to say, yes, 132 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 8: the economy is starting to shift and here some work 133 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 8: that they can start quoting on coming up really quick. 134 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: And look, there's talk about the fact trade is going 135 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: to be working over summer, but I imagine that the 136 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 2: impact of this will be longer than just the summer. 137 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean, how long do you think it will keep 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: the industry going for well? 139 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 8: Schoolwork traditionally is that a lot of it is done 140 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 8: over the summer period because it's no easier. Yep, yeah, 141 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 8: around schools, around the rest of it. So they are 142 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 8: the trades are quite used to that type of work. 143 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 8: I just really want to emphasize that it's a good 144 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 8: push of work now that is very much needed and 145 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 8: will start giving a bit more confidence back into the market. 146 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 8: So even though I'm going to conference as our own 147 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 8: one setifed bild a conference a few months ago. Now 148 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 8: in place like zibbil so building Jet, there is a 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 8: sort of quite confidence around there that better days are 150 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 8: coming down the track. And this is an example that 151 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 8: the better day is starting to emerge. 152 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: So Malcolm, it sounds like it's a good short term solution. 153 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: What about you know, are there other ways that the 154 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: government could be giving the constructed construction industry a bit 155 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: of a boost. 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 8: Well, I think this is an example that the government 157 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 8: is starting to listen to the conceit ends of industry 158 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 8: that the pipeline will work for. Some areas like school works, 159 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 8: like community housing have been closed off over the last 160 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 8: couple of years and it's starting to see the impact 161 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 8: that that has had that we've had people exiting our business, 162 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,679 Speaker 8: so our industry going overseas or just leaving the industry 163 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 8: and the priority and if we're continue to go as 164 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 8: we are, there's going to be a real issue in 165 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 8: the industry. Beyud A gear up again when the work 166 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 8: starts coming in, and that's already been a RAE main 167 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 8: concern of ours as well. The other good news about 168 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 8: all this just putting aside it's a construction industry. It's 169 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 8: good news for schools. It's critical our country's children be 170 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 8: educated in the classrooms that are fit for purpose, that 171 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 8: are warm, dry and healthy spaces, and that they need 172 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 8: good designers and good builders to make that happen. 173 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I was a little bit rude before Malkolman I said, 174 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: I've really struggled to get tradees to work over summer, 175 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 2: but I suppose needs must. 176 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 8: It is very much a case, Francesca. I'll think you 177 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 8: that if those aren't going on the holiday this summer, though, 178 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 8: they'll be pleased to be able to put that aside. 179 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 2: Malcolm Fleming, thanks so much for your time this morning. 180 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Malcolm is the Certified Builder's Chief Executive. It 181 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: is a seventeen past five year with early edition The News. 182 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: You Need this Morning and the in depth analysis early 183 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love where you Live. 184 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: News Talks at Me nineteen past five. Very quickly. Are 185 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 2: you a runner? Are you a marathon runner? Harry Stiles 186 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: took part in the Berlin Marathon yesterday. He did it 187 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: in under three hours, two hours and fifty nine. In 188 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 2: March he ran the Tokyo Marathon. He did it in 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 2: three and a half hours. We'll just under three and 190 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: a half hours. I've got some new respect for Harry Starles. 191 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: That's pretty impressive, isn't it. And I had a friend 192 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: running it who said it was very hot and humid 193 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: conditions as well. Very impressive. Right, New Zealand is one 194 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 2: step closer to a wallet free future. Digital services in 195 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 2: to Judith Collins says digital driver's licenses could be rolling 196 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: out by the end of the year. It means you 197 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 2: won't need to carry your wallet to the bar or 198 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: when you're driving. The idea is to make your life easier, 199 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: but it also raises safety questions. Andy Higgs, digital Identity 200 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: New Zealand executive director, joins me. 201 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 8: Now, good morning Andy, Oh, good morning, Princession. 202 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so do these changes sound positive to you? 203 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 9: Yeah, they are that we're wise to be skeptical. 204 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: Okay, what should we be skeptical about? 205 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 9: Well, I mean if you look at what's happened around 206 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 9: the world with digital identity in places that. 207 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 8: Are not like us, like. 208 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 9: Estonia or China or other countries, they you become a 209 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 9: number right and you know that someone was telling me 210 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 9: about their trip to the Middle East the other day 211 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 9: and they arrive and has they got second went the hospital, 212 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 9: and the hospital already knew everything about them. So you 213 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 9: don't want to go down that track. And we're not, 214 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 9: but I think a lot of people mistakenly think we are, 215 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 9: which is which is fine. But we've got a big 216 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 9: job to dour on the education front. So we're doing 217 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 9: a bit differently. 218 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 2: Down here, So Andy, maybe you could can help us 219 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: understand how this tech is going to work. Is it 220 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: like Apple pay or will there be a two factor 221 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: authentic I can. 222 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 9: Never say this with two factor authentication. 223 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: Authentication, thank you, indication. No, I can never say it 224 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: actually ending. It's just one of those words. 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 9: Yeah. No, So there is security built into the system, 226 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 9: but really the first thing to understand is it's not 227 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 9: a two sided marketplace. You know, it's not Apple sucking 228 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 9: up all our data and controlling our lives. It's actually well, 229 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 9: there's actually four parts to the to the infrastructure, so 230 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 9: it takes a bit of explaining, but I'm good to 231 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 9: go if you if you've met me. Basically, there's an 232 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 9: issuer of of a credential. We call it a credential, 233 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 9: which is a global standard, and there's the three global 234 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 9: standards that are in popular use and allows you to 235 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 9: issue the physical identity as what's effectively an encrypted piece 236 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 9: of data or a token digital token. Then you've got 237 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 9: the the holder, which is which is us, you know, 238 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 9: the holder of the token, which in the in the 239 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 9: case of the digital identity, it's it's it's held on 240 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 9: your device, so your phone you mentioned the smartphone in 241 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 9: in what we what they call a wallet, but it's 242 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 9: not really a wallet. It's more of a kind of 243 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 9: viewer of the encrypted data. And and then you've got 244 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 9: the that's the sect and past part. And then the 245 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 9: third part is the verification, which is the relying party, 246 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 9: which which could be the bar, it could be the 247 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 9: police officer that's just pulled you over. Yeah, they're the 248 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 9: relying party. And there's been a whole movement around the 249 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 9: world because it's actually decentralized this method. So there's a 250 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 9: whole movement around the world talking about no phoning homes. 251 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 9: So what you don't want is the issuer seeing every 252 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 9: time you've used your your credential. So when the relying 253 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 9: party checks your digital credential, that you know the issuer 254 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 9: of it in this case, the TA or the government 255 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 9: won't know that you've presented the government. 256 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 2: The government can't be looking at what you're doing with it. 257 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 9: And storing of data. There's no storing of data. And 258 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 9: it's basically what's called we've we've we've implemented this new 259 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 9: law called its Identity Services Trust Framework. It's a voluntary regime, 260 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 9: but that that points to a source of trust, a 261 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 9: source of trust outside that that triangle of actors. So 262 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,439 Speaker 9: it could be a government source of trust or it 263 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 9: could be a non government source of trust. And that's 264 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 9: really the big opportunity Easier London to preserve greater privacy 265 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 9: and control for every day the easy Landers. 266 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: Okay, it sounds like they've thought about this. Thank you 267 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: for talking us through that, Andy, appreciate that. I'm going 268 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 2: to give you my thoughts around the driver's license in 269 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: just a moment. It is twenty four past five, the early. 270 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: Edition for All the Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News. 271 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 8: Talks that Be. 272 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so here is my take around the Digital Services 273 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 2: Minister due to Collins's plan to introduce digital driving licenses 274 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 2: or driver licenses by the end of the year. Okay, 275 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: so on its own, you wonder what's the point of 276 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: moving in this direction when we have perfectly good driver's 277 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 2: licenses in our back pocket. But it's not really about 278 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: the driver's license. It's about creating an app like New 279 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: South Wales has, which allows people to do a whole 280 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 2: lot of government related transactions simply and easily from their phones, 281 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: things like your car registration, are you waff paying road 282 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: user charges and road tolls, both of which we might 283 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: be doing a little bit more of in the future. 284 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: Inland revenue and tax payments can be dealt with through it, 285 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: dealing with superannuation and benefit payments, even maybe paying parking tickets. 286 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: You can do the lot right, which makes sense. We 287 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: deal with so much of this online already, why not 288 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: put it all in one place. So New South Wales 289 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: they rolled out the digital driver's license in twenty nineteen 290 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: and today over eighty percent of drivers use their driver's 291 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 2: license via the app. It is good to see though 292 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: that the Minister acknowledges we need to have choice around this. 293 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 2: A digital license system can't exclude those who don't have 294 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: access to the necessary technology or simply prefer to keep 295 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: things offline. Groups like the elderly, rural communities and areas 296 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: with poor connectivity and people with low incomes could be 297 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: disproportionately affected by a full switch to digital, So it's 298 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: good Kiwis will be given the choice to go digital 299 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: or stay with the plastic. Digital licenses may be a modern, 300 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 2: forward thinking move, but they do come with privacy risks. 301 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 2: If we're just sort of talking about this, you can 302 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: put all the security in place you like, but no 303 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: system is entirely immune to cyber attacks or accidental or 304 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: intentional leaks. As I mentioned, much of what we do 305 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: is already online, and I appreciate the IDs will be 306 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: decentralized and no data will be stored next to personal information. 307 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: But as that use of the app increases, will that 308 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 2: remain the case? Now? I am probably sounding a little paranoid, 309 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: but after having almost fallen for a sophisticated scam which 310 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: used hacked information, I'm not relaxed about the amount of 311 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: data I have online. So if we're going to do this, 312 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: we've got to do it well. This can't be rushed, 313 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: and it must be the best version it can be 314 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: from the start. So I'm a person who never buys 315 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: the first version of a piece of tech. I always 316 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 2: give a provided time to sort out the kinks. I 317 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: like to buy the second or third generation version. And 318 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: I feel the same about the digital driver's licenses. I 319 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: can understand how practical they could be. I can appreciate 320 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 2: how bringing everything together could make dealing with numerous government 321 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: departments easier. It will even make creating fake licenses harder 322 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: for the kids to get into r and v so 323 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 2: I'm well up for it as long as I can 324 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: make the move when I'm ready. Can to hear your thoughts, 325 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 2: You can text on ninety two ninety two with news 326 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: Talks ab. 327 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: The first Word on the News of the Day, Early 328 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: edition with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love Where you 329 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: live News Talks'd be. 330 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 6: Yes. 331 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: This is early edition on newsbok Zebbe. I'm Francisco Rudkin 332 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: filling in for Ryan who is on Drive today. Thank 333 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: you for being with us if you are looking for 334 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: something to do with the kids over the school holidays. 335 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift announced in the weekend that she is releasing 336 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 2: a movie. It's called the Official Release Party of a 337 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: show Girl. It's to celebrate the new album which was 338 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 2: coming out. It's an eighty nine minute film. When it 339 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: was announced on Sunday, I couldn't find evidence of it anywhere. 340 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: She said it's going worldwide, it'll be in New Zealand. 341 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 2: Couldn't find evidence of it anywhere yesterday. Yesterday though, it 342 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: has popped up in cinema schedules, so it's been announced 343 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: that it's event. Cinema is saying it's going to be 344 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: screening on the fourth of the tenth fourth of October, 345 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: which kind of makes sense. I think it's screening on 346 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: the third internationally, so it's only running for a couple 347 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: of days. That's going to be the last weekend of 348 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: the holiday, so by then you might want to drop 349 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: the kids off and just leave them for an hour 350 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: and a half and pick them up a little bit later. 351 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: But I imagine that that it's going to be they 352 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 2: will be busy those sessions, so you just might want 353 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: to keep an eye on that. I don't know when 354 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: the tickets come on out. There was very little information, 355 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: but it is coming right in the next half hours. 356 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: So we're going to head to Australia where more details 357 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: have been released on the outrage. It's been linked to 358 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: three deaths, and at two pm this afternoon, the long 359 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 2: awaited overhaul to the Holidays Act will be announced. We're 360 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 2: going to find out you know what businesses are hoping 361 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: to hear. 362 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, franchise good. 363 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: Oh there we go, love it another sting. Thank you 364 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 2: for the text though we were talking earlier about the 365 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: maintenance work at schools and LORI text to say morning Francesca. 366 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 2: Finally a government that sees the wisdom of doing necessary building, 367 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: a maintenance work and a downturn, unlike during the GFC, 368 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: keep our trades here and their families fed. Talking about 369 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 2: the digital ID, a text reads, I'm personally not keen 370 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: on this digital license. We've already seen private information access 371 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 2: previously in this country. Fingers crossed. They actually give us 372 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,439 Speaker 2: the option, as I will be keeping my hard copy license. 373 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: Plus what happens if your phone goes flash? Are we 374 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 2: to get fined for not producing a license? 375 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 10: First? 376 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: Yees, you will get the option, and I think that's 377 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 2: very sensible. There's another way to do it. You will 378 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: absolutely have the option. You can pick and choose. And 379 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: do you know what that was? The second thing that 380 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: crossed my mind was the phone. I hate the fact 381 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 2: that we're going I'm going to be more reliant on 382 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: my phone. I have to keep it charged, which I'm 383 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: going to be honest, sometimes I'm not very good at 384 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: another digital idea is morally wrong. Privacy and control concerns 385 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: government over each cyber attacks and malware, etc. More of 386 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 2: our personal liberty has been taken away. So a lot 387 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: of opinion there on the digital driver's license. But the 388 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 2: good news is you can make your own decision. Right, 389 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: let's head around the country and adjoining us now from 390 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: Dunedin callumproc to good morning morning, Francesca. 391 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 8: Right. 392 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: Food demand in Queenstown Lakes District could triple by twenty fifty. 393 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 11: Ye know this is being able to really wake up 394 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 11: call for the Queenstown Lakes area. A new food resilience 395 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 11: report reveals that the region imports ninety five percent of 396 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 11: its food. The district's six supermarkets hold less than a 397 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 11: week's supply at any one time, and by the mid 398 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 11: twenty fifties, demand will reach ninety five thousand tons per year. 399 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 11: So the report authors say it's concerning that if there 400 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 11: was to be a major weather event or earthquake, shelves 401 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 11: on those supermarkets in those supermarkets could be empty within days. 402 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 11: They say, any disruption to the food chain would hit 403 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 11: the Queenstown region really hard. And this report reveals how 404 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 11: exposed it truly is. 405 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 2: And the weather in need and today callum early. 406 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 11: Morning rain for us today, then the chants of shower 407 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 11: this afternoon, the highs today thirteen, thank you so much. 408 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: Claire Sherwood is in christ Church and Canterbury University students 409 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: are lacing up their running shoes for a seventy two 410 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: hour runathon for men's mental health today. 411 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 12: Claire, Yes, Francisca. This is the student group that Lads 412 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 12: Without Labels. They're hosting their fifth run seventy two. This 413 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 12: is where the community run non stomp lamps around the 414 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 12: campus in order to raise money for men's at Mental 415 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 12: Health Services. AD's co president to Oscar Bloom has told 416 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 12: us this is going to be their biggest year. Yes, there, 417 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 12: aiming to raise one hundred thousand and seventy two dollars 418 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 12: twenty eight thousand dollars more than they did last year. 419 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 12: He says masculinity is about asking for help and everyone 420 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 12: should have access to care. He says it's beautiful how 421 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 12: the Canterbury student population rallies and recognition that mental health 422 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 12: really does affect everyone. 423 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 2: Have they got good weather for it today? 424 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 12: Claire, Yes, good news, fine, some cloud increasing a bit 425 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 12: later this afternoon. There is this slight chance of a 426 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 12: shower but not looking too likely. Lightwins and the high 427 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 12: should be nineteen. 428 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Claire and Max toll Is in Wellington. 429 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: Good morning, Max, good morning. Oriental Beach is getting a 430 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:40,719 Speaker 2: sand top up. 431 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels a little wrong covering the story today, 432 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 7: considering it's absolutely hosing down at the moments and going 433 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 7: to the beach probably the last thing on people's minds. 434 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 7: But yes, Central Oriental receiving a fresh top up of sand. 435 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 7: This is something that happens here semi regularly. Sound from 436 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 7: a quarry and Dunedin is going to be shpped here 437 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 7: and spread across Oriental Bay's three main beaches. It costs 438 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 7: the city council about eight hundred thousand dollars. Access to 439 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 7: the beach is limited for a few weeks. The council 440 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 7: initially brought twenty two thousand tons of sand from Golden 441 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 7: Bay and Nelson more than twenty years ago for Oriental 442 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 7: and these top ups have been happening bi annually since 443 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 7: twenty fifteen. 444 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 2: Is the weather going to ease today? Max? 445 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 7: It should later rain heavy this morning and yeah, clearing 446 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 7: this afternoon, strong northerlyast fifteen the hay. 447 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Thank you so much and never written man who was 448 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 2: in the studio with us morning with her own microphone. 449 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: That's right, good, it's working today, Good. 450 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 2: Morning, fantastic. Yes, an open funeral home is Langtise. More 451 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: than seven hundred unclaimed urns containing human remains. 452 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 5: That's right now. 453 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 13: Look some of these have been stored for close to 454 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 13: a century. Morrison's Funerals located in Henderson and Gleninis inherited 455 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 13: looks several of these year urns, I don't say uns 456 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 13: urns after the closure of other funeral homes looking after 457 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 13: some of them back from the nineteen thirties and the forties. 458 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 13: So it's asking for anyone who may have a loved 459 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 13: one whose ashes were never collected to get in touch. 460 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: See canter it. That's a lot. 461 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 2: There's a lot. 462 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 13: So they've got a deadline for December the first, wanting 463 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 13: these ones to be claimed. All unclaimed ashes are going 464 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 13: to be interred. This is an among the lawn cemetery plot. 465 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 466 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 13: And the weather in Auckland today well, rain heavy at 467 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 13: times from late morning. We've got thunderstorms possible north of 468 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 13: Auckland City nor the least strong at times. 469 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 5: You know, that's fantastic high of eighteen. 470 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 2: Just perfect for the school holidays. 471 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: I know, what are the kids? You keep them inside 472 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 5: in door activities, red escape. 473 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 2: It's good to get out and get a bit of 474 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: fresh air. But a rain doesn't hurt you. Next off 475 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: we're after oz donad DeMeo is with us. 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Supercharge your business With 493 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: zero tap to pay, get paid. Just got a whole 494 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: lot easier search Zero. 495 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Tap to pay international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, 496 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: peace of mind for New Zealand. 497 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: Business, and we are heading to Australia. Donna de Mayo 498 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: was with us. Good morning, Donna, good morning. So you 499 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: got some more details on this Optus triple zero outage. 500 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 10: Yes, well, it was last Thursday that there was this 501 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 10: catastrophic triple zero outage, that is people could not get 502 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 10: through to emergency services. Now the outage is linked to 503 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 10: three deaths across two states that South Australia and Western Australia. 504 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 10: We've heard from Optus chief Stephen Rue and he says 505 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 10: it was a network upgrade that prevented people from making 506 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 10: those triple zero calls. It affected about six hundred households 507 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 10: in South. 508 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 14: Australia, Western Australia, Northern Territory and now we've learned even 509 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 14: a part of New South Wales. Optus has even admitted 510 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 14: that the process was not followed after it missed at 511 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 14: least five warnings of the zero outage. Communications Minister Anika 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 14: Wells yesterday said that Telco has no excuses after what happened, 513 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 14: and she has promised that Optus will suffer significant consequences 514 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 14: major financial penalties are likely, and we know that in 515 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 14: twenty twenty three, so not so long ago, Optus was 516 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 14: fined twelve million dollars for similar failures. We also have 517 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 14: heard the Guardian reports that the Communications Regulator says it 518 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 14: wasn't informed of the outage until hours after it was resolved, 519 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 14: and the company has provided inaccurate information as to what 520 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 14: happened at that point. 521 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 2: The story just keeps getting worse and worse, doesn't it, Donna. 522 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 10: Yes, the PM says that Optus's behavior was completely unacceptable. 523 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 2: Don't mean know that? 524 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 6: Yes? 525 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 2: And look, your Prime Minister is preparing to address the 526 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 2: UN General Assembly on Palestine. 527 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 10: Yes, so we have actually well, the PM is due 528 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 10: to deliver a major address in regard to Palestinians, the 529 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 10: recognition of Palestine, sorry, at the UN General Assembly today, 530 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 10: and we know that Anthony Albanizi will tell the international 531 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 10: community why Australia is joining the UK and Canada to 532 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 10: recognize Palestine. A few things expected that he will mention 533 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 10: is that we must break, as he put it, we 534 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 10: must break cycle of violence and build something better. 535 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 15: But interestingly, we've heard from the opposition leader Susan Lee. 536 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 15: She's written to us Republicans to reassure Congress members that 537 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 15: a coalition government would withdraw the recognition of a Palestinian state. 538 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, don I. 539 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 5: Have a good day, Thank you, Francisco. 540 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 2: It is ten to sex right. Major changes a head 541 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: for employers. The long awaited overhaul of the Holidays Act 542 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 2: will be announced today by the Workplace Relations Minister. This woman. 543 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 2: Business owners will hopefully have more certainty over their leave 544 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: requirements of their staff. Leanne Watson is the CEO of 545 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: Business Canterbury and she's with me now. Good morning, Lynne, 546 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: good morning. Okay, how long have you been waiting for 547 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: this legislation to be overhauled? 548 00:28:58,240 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 8: Oh? 549 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 6: Look, a very long time, very much looking forward today's 550 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 6: announcement and what we hope will replace this long criticized 551 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 6: Holidays Act. In fact, in my eight years a CEO 552 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 6: of Business Cannibury, I would say no single piece of 553 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 6: legislation has caused more frustration, more confusion than the Holidays Act. 554 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: And there's been you know, significant compliance nightmares, riddled with complexity, 555 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 6: manual pay roll fixes and interventions and you know some 556 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 6: pretty serious under and overpayment risks involved. 557 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: It's been really tricky for casual employee. So how are 558 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: casual employees treated differently to full timers under the current 559 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: act and what are you hoping to see? 560 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean the first thing that we're hoping 561 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 6: to see is a regulation that is clearer, fairer, and 562 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 6: just more practical for employers to implement and meet their obligations, 563 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 6: because that has been the single biggest concern that you know, 564 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 6: businesses have just simply almost needed an advanced calculus degree 565 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 6: to work out whether or not they are in fact 566 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 6: meeting those obligations. And you're quite right when we take 567 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 6: into accounts some modern day work day practices. You know, 568 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 6: we do have many sectors who employ casual and part 569 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 6: time staff, manufacturers, hospitality, retail, and they have been I 570 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: guess the most impacted by mainly the pro rating of 571 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 6: leave based on the hour's work. That's been you know, 572 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 6: one of the biggest issues. So that's what we're hoping 573 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 6: to see today is just that particular issue. You know, 574 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 6: a lot there for employers to work through. 575 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: What else would you love to hear? The curtain only en. 576 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 6: Look, I think just going back to really reducing that 577 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 6: compliance burden on businesses and having them, you know, understand 578 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 6: how to navigate that legislation that you know that has 579 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 6: been the single biggest issue, has caused huge confusion, and 580 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 6: not only for you know, small businesses, many of whom 581 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: of course don't having sort of dedicated HR resources internally, 582 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 6: but also you know, we know for some of the 583 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 6: bigger businesses impacting, including some of the government departments, they've 584 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 6: also you know, been victim of not understanding this and 585 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: getting it wrong. So I think just you know, go 586 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 6: in vector, making it really clear, really fear and really 587 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 6: practical for businesses to implement is what we're hoping to 588 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 6: see today. 589 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: Are you confident? I mean, how was the consultation process? 590 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: Do you feel like your concerns were heard by the minister. 591 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 6: We have had some good consultation and in fact, you know, 592 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 6: Minister van Walden has been very actively involved in engaging 593 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 6: with our members and Canterbury not only on this but 594 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 6: also on health and safety reform. So the consultation has 595 00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 6: been good. I guess the announcement today will determine how 596 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 6: much she has listened. This is complex. I suspect it 597 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 6: will take quite some time to work through, but you 598 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 6: know this has been worked on since twenty eighteen, so 599 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 6: there needs to be some urgency to address this to 600 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 6: get it right. 601 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Watson, thank you so much for your time today. 602 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. I wish you the best of LFE for 603 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,959 Speaker 2: two o'clock. So two o'clock is when we do expect 604 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: to hear that announcement, and hopefully it will clear up 605 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: a lot of that confusion and make things easier for 606 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: employers but also employees. I think half the time that's 607 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 2: been the problem as well. We all have different expectations 608 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: of what we expect and how that holiday pay is 609 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: going to work and things. So hopefully that can be 610 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: simplified and make it easier for everybody. Mike Hosking is 611 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: in the studio. Next it is six to. 612 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Six Get Ahead of the Headlines on an early edition 613 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: with Francesca Rudkin and one roof Love, Where You Live, News. 614 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 9: Talks at Me. 615 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: Coming up at six is the Mike Hosking Breakfast and 616 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: Mike Hosking joins me. Now, good morning, good morning. Now, 617 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: I just asked you what was on the Showsdawn. You 618 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: said a lot of you and I said to you, 619 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: when you can't ask for much more than that, can you? 620 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 7: And you were correct. 621 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 16: We will actually talk about coal because the deal has 622 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 16: been done and so there's a lot of people seem 623 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 16: exercised about the Indonesian part of the equation. So we 624 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 16: partially solve that with they call it local coal, which 625 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 16: it is local coal, but the company's Australian, of course, 626 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 16: not that that seems to matter. But anyway, we're digging 627 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 16: it up here. So we are digging it up here, 628 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 16: and it seems to be for the foreseeable too. Was 629 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 16: a period of time when we were chasing the renewable dream, 630 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 16: and I'm assuming we're still doing it. But we're doing 631 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 16: a lot of coal at the moment to keep the 632 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 16: lights on. And the more AI centers turn up and 633 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 16: the data centers turn up, then presumably we're gonna need 634 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 16: more and more of this as the as we wait 635 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 16: for the windmills. By the way, just let me ask 636 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 16: you quickly give me your AMUSEO personally, is you're like Harpafin, 637 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 16: Yes I do. Yeah, he's on this morning, and I 638 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 16: found him. I've interviewed him several times now and I 639 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 16: just find him a miserably interesting, very bright guy performing 640 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 16: with Yeah, Yes, Yes, South America then Yeah, And I'd 641 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 16: never heard of. 642 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: Them twenty one pilots. Yes, they're supporting twenty one pilots. 643 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 2: But the band is Badaga Bla Bidaga. I'm Blabadaga. Oh 644 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: look here am I looking at Glenn and you're across that. 645 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 5: Looking at Glenn. 646 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 2: See, I've got I've got I've actually got something to 647 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: bring up with you because for years I sat on 648 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 2: that breakfast couch and I tried to get you interested 649 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: in country music and you paid no attention to me. 650 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 2: Look at you now, you're like, you're like the poster 651 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 2: boy for country music in. 652 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 16: New Zealand, to country music and also for Bla Badega 653 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 16: South America. Sixty thousand plus people in your stadiums incredibally amazing. 654 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, have a great day. 655 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: For more from Early Edition with Ryan Bridge, listen live 656 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: to News Talks it'd be from five am weekdays, or 657 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: follow the podcast on iHeartRadio