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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spins to find the real story.

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Speaker 1: Oring It's Heather two for Clan Drive with one New

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Speaker 1: Zealand Let's get connected News DOGSV.

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Speaker 2: Afternoon. Erica wants AI to mark the new exams. The

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Speaker 2: union on that Aura, which is the retail crime tool,

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Speaker 2: is so good it's actually overwhelming the police. We'll have

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Speaker 2: a speak a chat to the cops about it. And

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Speaker 2: the man running for mayor in two places at once

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Speaker 2: under different names Heather D. P.

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Speaker 3: C Ellen.

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Speaker 2: So what does it say about our priorities that we've

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Speaker 2: just put millions of dollars of taxpayer money into funding

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Speaker 2: two reality TV shows but nothing into funding the Netball?

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Speaker 2: I mean, surely the Netball is more worthy than Celebrity

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Speaker 2: Treasure Island or the Traitors, isn't it? And yet ends

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Speaker 2: it on air. Has pumped two point eight million dollars

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Speaker 2: into funding Trash TV, on top of two point five

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Speaker 2: million dollars into funding Shortland Street, on top of two

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars into funding the Chloe Swarbrick documentary, on

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Speaker 2: top of eight hundred thousand dollars into funding the Jasinda

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Speaker 2: Earned movie That Fallover, And the list goes on Netball,

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Speaker 2: though the screening of which would surely encourage young people

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Speaker 2: into moving their bodies and getting themselves more healthy and

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Speaker 2: getting off the couch. Netball has had to pay TVNZ

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Speaker 2: to put it on the tally now. To be fair,

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Speaker 2: netball doesn't qualify for New Zealand on air funding because

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Speaker 2: it is a sport, and sport up to now at

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Speaker 2: least has been considered commercially successful and so it doesn't

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Speaker 2: require taxpayer help. But I would argue that is everything

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Speaker 2: that is wrong without funding system right there. I don't

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Speaker 2: think we should be putting money into things that aren't

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Speaker 2: commercially successful. I think we should be putting money if

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Speaker 2: we put money into TV at all, and that's a

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Speaker 2: debate we should have. If we're going to put money

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Speaker 2: into anything, we should be putting it into things that

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Speaker 2: are commercially successful, or at least can be commercially successful

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Speaker 2: into the future, like the hopes are for netball. Celebrity

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Speaker 2: Treasure Island will never make money again. Probably traders will

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Speaker 2: be lucky to survive whatever it is that happens to

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Speaker 2: TV three post the sale. Shorty Street will never be

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Speaker 2: commercially successful ever. Again. I would bet we actually don't

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Speaker 2: need this stuff on Telly. That's what they'll tell you.

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Speaker 2: They say, Oh, I got to see Kiwi faces on Telly.

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Speaker 3: No you don't.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to see Kiwi faces and Kiwi stories

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Speaker 2: on the big screen or the small screen when you

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Speaker 2: have your phone screen. If you want to see Keiwi stories,

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Speaker 2: you want to see Keiwi accents. You want to see

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Speaker 2: some Kiwi humor, dial up Thomas Sainsbury on your Facebook feed,

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Speaker 2: have a look at memoirs of Amori doing her comedy,

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Speaker 2: ORed Joe Daimond, or even Kate Hawksby's Instagram. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think we should stop funding shows that fewer and

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Speaker 2: fewer people are watching and start looking at what people

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Speaker 2: are actually doing on their phones. New Zealanders broke it,

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Speaker 2: well broke if we can't afford to build a proper

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Speaker 2: hospital for Duned and we cannot seriously be able to

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Speaker 2: fund trash TV heather doopers. The Alum nine two nine

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Speaker 2: two is the text number standard text fees apply now.

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Speaker 2: The Government as pushing ahead with the modern equivalent of

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Speaker 2: the Foreshore and Seabed legislation. The Marine and Coastal Area

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Speaker 2: Bill is expected to pass by the end of October.

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Speaker 2: It's going to override a Court of Appeal decision from

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Speaker 2: a couple of years ago that made the test for

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Speaker 2: customary marine titles just simply too easy. Just as Minister

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Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith as a man working on this, and he's

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Speaker 2: with us, Hey, Paul, oh, hi, Heather, why are you

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Speaker 2: waiting till October? Why not just get it done now?

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Speaker 4: Well, we introduced legislation last year to overturn the Court

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Speaker 4: of Appeal and in the essence, what we're trying to

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Speaker 4: achieve is a balance between the ability for MARI to

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Speaker 4: claim customary title while at the same time recognizing that

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Speaker 4: everybody's got an interest in what goes on in the coastline.

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Speaker 4: And so Parliament back in the John Key government set

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Speaker 4: a test, a high test which was had to show

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Speaker 4: understurb possessions since eighteen forty, went off to the courts

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Speaker 4: after about ten to fifteen years, and the courts basically

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Speaker 4: undermined it well, didn't recognize the second clause very much.

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Speaker 4: And so that's why we brought the legislation and you

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Speaker 2: Leaders say, why did you decide to carry on?

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Speaker 4: Well, ultimately we want to go further than the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: The Supreme Court dealt with some of the issues that

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Speaker 4: feel like it went fair enough to get that balance right,

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Speaker 4: which is to say that, yes, if there's a very

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Speaker 4: clear case, you can have customer marine title. What does

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Speaker 4: this mean for the average person. All it means people

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Speaker 4: who are ev that have customery marine title do have

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Speaker 4: of things that can happen on the coastline. Nobody's affecting

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Speaker 4: people's ability to swim, fish and do a bunch of things.

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to new aquaculture, or when it

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Speaker 4: comes to renewing a consent for a private jetty, a

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Speaker 4: whole bunch of things would be affected. And that's why

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Speaker 4: we had the high test rather than one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: So do you think this is going to blow up

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Speaker 2: just you know quietly.

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Speaker 4: Well, look, time will tell. I mean, when we were

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Speaker 4: doing the legislation late last year, you know, there are

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Speaker 4: obviously people who feel strongly about it, but it was manageable.

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Speaker 5: And look, I think.

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Speaker 4: All we're trying to achieve is restoring what Parliament thought

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Speaker 4: introduced this legislation, which is to say, yes, you can

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Speaker 4: go for customer marine title, but you know there's a

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Speaker 4: reasonable hurdle to get over and that's what we're trying

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you think it's going to revive this

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Speaker 4: No, well that's in terms of yes, it's very rare

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Speaker 4: thought about it very carefully. But our view is that

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Speaker 4: that we need to make this move.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, what did you think about what I said

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Speaker 2: about netball and trash TV.

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Speaker 4: Well, one person's trash is another's treasure.

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Speaker 2: I suppose since of it, you don't do you like

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that.

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Speaker 5: I just not.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't watch it and that's fair enough and

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Speaker 4: that's fine. But some people do and look New Zealand

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Speaker 4: on air. The purpose of it is for New Zealanders

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Speaker 4: to see New Zealand on air.

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Speaker 2: New Zealanders on air.

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Speaker 6: It's you.

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Speaker 2: It's twenty five. Why don't I tell you what? Why

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Speaker 2: don't you also start funding New Zealand to send telegraph

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Speaker 2: messages to each other? And it's old technology. We've used

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Speaker 2: our phones. Let's just give up on it.

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Speaker 4: Some do, some don't know. It's still a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Watch kind of government. We're running out, a little bit

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Speaker 6: Of do you know.

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Speaker 4: No, it's been for the last thirty years New Zealand

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Speaker 4: on Air has been helping fund New Zealand. Material doesn't mean,

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Speaker 2: It does a shit job, doesn't it. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: is it funded that's commercially successful? Look look it over

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Speaker 2: look it over at Australia they're funding Bluey. The thing

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Speaker 2: is absolutely going gang dusters around the world. What's New

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Speaker 2: Zealand on Air got that's going gang dusters around the world.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's there's been quite a few things that have

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Speaker 4: been reasonably successful. Sometimes you're right, that's it's a reasonable challenge.

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Speaker 4: Well after the Party and a few things like that

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Speaker 4: because the legislation is quite strong, but I can send

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Speaker 4: a letter of intentions and my focus is that you

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Speaker 4: know that they fund things that people want to watch

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Speaker 4: and that it was of broad interests in New Zealanders

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Speaker 4: and yep, everybody can. You know, you can watch Netflix

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Speaker 4: and Apple and you know there's no shortage of entertainment.

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Speaker 4: But the purpose of New Zealand on the Air is

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Speaker 2: Keeping my eyes on you, Paul Goldsmith this.

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Speaker 4: Week you keep watching. I'm glad that you're on our

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Speaker 2: You not not the TV content that the funding which

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Speaker 2: is the problem. Listen, thank you, I always appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: That's Paul Goldsmith, the Justice Minister. Heather, you could always

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Speaker 2: offer to pay more tax and then you would have

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Speaker 2: better funding. You know, you don't pay your tax. You

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Speaker 2: that's a great idea. Do you know what, here's an idea.

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Speaker 2: How about we all pay fifty percent tax and then

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Speaker 2: we can fund everything. Does that sound like a good

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Speaker 2: idea to you? No, me neither. So take that idea,

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Speaker 2: put it in the bin. Quarter pass four.

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Speaker 2: half an hour's time. Elbow is getting himself self involved

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East. Just had a chat to the

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Speaker 7: He does headed at Pluey Allen.

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Speaker 2: So how would the state of origin and christ Church work?

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Speaker 3: How would it work?

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Speaker 7: I don't know. Maybe graham Low can tell us, Sir

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Speaker 7: graham Lo can tell us, well, I don't agree that

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Speaker 7: we need a state of origin here in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: It's not ours, right, it's not.

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Speaker 2: Ours, But why not take it? I mean, look at it, it's.

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Speaker 7: The Australian's competition. It's not ours. We're going to go

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Speaker 7: over there and flog.

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Speaker 5: One of the deciders.

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Speaker 6: Why not?

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Speaker 7: Or they're teamed him to do it. I would go

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Speaker 7: in a heartbeat. I would love to go and see

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Speaker 7: the origin here, but I struggle with the fact that

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Speaker 7: we're removing one of Australia's most iconic sporting events and

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Speaker 7: putting in our backyard for what I think it'd be

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Speaker 7: the first time since nineteen eighty seven that State of

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Speaker 7: Origin has been played outside of Australian.

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Speaker 2: Let me understand your argument against it is simply it's

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Speaker 2: theirs leave it alone. Yeah, yeah, because that's how they

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Speaker 9: I dig again.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: They treat us like well, I use the team must

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Speaker 3: We are the poor.

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Speaker 7: She's going to compete in that, just that one off

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Yeah, we're gonna talk about the

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Speaker 1: Moving the big stories of the d Orward aw It's

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Speaker 3: That'd be yeah.

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Speaker 2: The real comment about how about we pay fifty percent tax?

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Grant, appreciate that very much. Five twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Now let's talk about the stickers, because it's happened again,

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Speaker 2: New Will doesn't have any of them anymore. I've got

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Speaker 2: I've contacted Auklan, New World's, Estridge, lun af Albany and

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Speaker 2: They play this out of stock card every single time.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting that on a week when they've had appalling

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Speaker 2: the point, that's beside the point. New World, this is

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Speaker 2: one's available today. Well, they are available. They just don't

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Speaker 2: were like, you know what, John Duffy from Consumer, do

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Speaker 2: hit on new At He said, absolute, I'd love that,

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Speaker 2: So he's gonna be a US quarter past five News.

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Speaker 1: Is next, recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.

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Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 8: Line cood so well?

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Speaker 11: Castilsy China is Bulls.

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Speaker 2: Together, the White the Brasier a few weeks ago, and

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Speaker 2: It's a wee bit small to be honest and brackets.

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Speaker 2: Cheers Steve, Thank you Steve. Not everybody loves Steve's just

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Speaker 2: doing the old humble brag. They're like God, I fever, guys,

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Speaker 2: not everybody loves it. Heather, My in laws gave me

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Speaker 2: coming any minute. Barry Soapa is going to be with

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Speaker 2: CEA it Now. Do you remember yesterday Erica Stanford was

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Speaker 2: But anyway, we'll talk to the Union about it after five,

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Speaker 3: It's the world wires on news dogs. They'd be drive

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Speaker 3: so over.

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Speaker 2: In Australia, the PM Albow has spoken to the Palestinian

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Speaker 12: Everybody understands that there is a risk there will be

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Speaker 12: no Palestine left to recognize unless the international community work together.

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Speaker 2: Texas Democrats have fled the state in order to hold

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Speaker 4: Our taxes constitution calls for redistricting every ten years based

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Speaker 2: We are not at the ten year mark.

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Speaker 1: We are halfway through the tenure mark.

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Speaker 2: And finally we are all steak. A zoo in Denmark

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Speaker 2: has asked the public to donate unwanted pets to feed

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Speaker 2: the predators. The Albog Zoo will happily take your chicken,

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Speaker 2: also accepted, as long as the owner provides the correct paperwork.

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Speaker 1: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Muriol's Australia corresponds with us. Now, hey, mus.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon.

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Speaker 2: So what do you make about Albow speaking with Macho

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Speaker 9: It's well and truly in keeping what you would expect from,

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Speaker 9: But again Albanese and Penny Wong's stressing it'll be done

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Speaker 9: Albanzi calling for the immediate entry of as much aid

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Speaker 9: of course Muhmud Abbas can't deliver. He's also reinforced that

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Speaker 2: a call with bb Why is why has Albow suddenly

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Speaker 2: become the guy who wants to get himself involved in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East?

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Speaker 9: Well, good question, I mean to me, it's a bit

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Speaker 9: of a mystery, to be honest. I mean, Australia's position

441
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Speaker 9: is pretty well known. The temperature has been amping up

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Speaker 9: over here. We had that huge rally on Sunday and

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Speaker 9: the pouring rain of the Harbor Bridge. Yeah, so that

444
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Speaker 9: the optics of that was pretty was pretty profound.

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Speaker 2: The answer, isn't it, muz, is that is that he's

446
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Speaker 2: been he's been pressured by Australians who want to see

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Speaker 2: something done, and he's doing something or at least trying.

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Speaker 9: Well, that could be one explanation, to be honest, I

449
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Speaker 9: hadn't sort of thought down that as a rabbit hole,

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Speaker 9: but you might be dead right because the optics were very,

451
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Speaker 9: very powerful. I mean you see all ages, women in wheelchairs,

452
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Speaker 9: babies on shoulders. It was a hell of a turnout

453
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Speaker 9: in a dreadful, dreadful weathery day. So you know who knows,

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Speaker 9: I mean politics, Your gifts is as good as mine.

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Speaker 9: But gee was don't they love an optical like a pick? Fact?

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Speaker 9: Don't they love an opportunity to stand there in front

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Speaker 9: of the cameras?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Totally. Hey, how about your consumer confidence? What's going on?

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 9: Interest rates are coming down, that's the inflations down right

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Speaker 9: where the Reserve Bank wants it, and expectations of a

463
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Speaker 9: cut in interest rates have really accelerated. This push in

464
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Speaker 9: consumer confidence the highest level since labor one and twenty

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Speaker 9: twenty two. So you know. The A and zed Roy

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Speaker 9: Morgan mob released their weekly consumer Sentiment report today and

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Speaker 9: what it's found. Four percentage points have jumped the last week.

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Speaker 9: Four percentage points. That's a heck of a big uptick,

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Speaker 9: no doubt about that. The Reserve Bank is going to

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Speaker 9: meet next week and every economist, I mean hundred percent

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Speaker 9: of economists, I'm not sure how many they are, it's

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Speaker 9: maybe twenty I've all said, Yes, rates are coming down

473
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Speaker 9: next week and another rate cut before Christmas, So no wonder.

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Speaker 9: There's a bit of a step, a bit of a spring,

475
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Speaker 9: and the step of people over here have been groaning

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Speaker 9: under the weight of a lot of debt.

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Speaker 2: Too bloody right, do you reckon that Melbourne can become

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Speaker 2: the world's most optimistic city.

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Speaker 9: Melbourne gets a bad rap, you know, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 9: Sidney gets more rained every year than Melbourne when you

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Speaker 9: look at the two. Yeah, truly, truly, we just get

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Speaker 9: it more heavily, less frequently. Melbourne just drizzled the bloody time.

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Speaker 9: It's just h yeah, that's that horrible drizzle. Melbourne's got

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Speaker 9: great coffee and maybe the best sporting precinct in the

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Speaker 9: world with the mcg and then the Tennis center just

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Speaker 9: down the hill. But for me, that's where it sort

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Speaker 9: of stops. It's a boring syne.

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Speaker 2: So overrated. I hate it eye boarderline hated you hate velvet.

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Speaker 10: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 9: Well the mayor seems to think. Listen. He had a

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Speaker 9: big round table. His name is Nick Reese. He hosted

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Speaker 9: a Melbourne twenty to fifty summit back in May, looking

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Speaker 9: for new initiatives to promote the city. A lot of

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Speaker 9: young people were there and they said, listen, can we

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Speaker 9: also include KPIs for happiness? We want to measure the

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Speaker 9: feel good factor amongst Melburnian's what do we like about

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Speaker 9: our city. Let's have a strategy to make it the

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Speaker 9: world's most optimistic and happiest city. Just half close your eyes.

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Speaker 9: A minute ago they were lockdown with the worst COVID

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Speaker 9: lockdown in the world. Daniel Andrew's strutting around in his

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Speaker 9: north faced jacket with his big buddy E is sticking

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Speaker 9: out like the doors in a Volkswagen, absolutely making everyone furious.

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Speaker 9: A minute ago. That's what that was the temperature and

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Speaker 9: the tone in Melbourne. Now the new mayor says, the

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Speaker 9: city is going to be pumping, We're going to be humming.

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Speaker 9: We're going to be optimistic and happy. Well your borderline hate,

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Speaker 9: my goodness, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I hate muz. Thank you appreciate it, Marriol's Australia correspondent.

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Speaker 2: See how that goes for Melbourne. Drizzle does somewhat dampen

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Speaker 2: the mood, doesn't it?

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Speaker 6: Here?

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Speaker 2: The AI already marks my draft internal assessments, does a

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Speaker 2: better job and a quicker job than I could. Listen,

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Speaker 2: just on that matter of elbow calling, the Palestinians. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what value it is to call the

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Speaker 2: Palestinian authority, but regardless, so he's calling the Palestinians and

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Speaker 2: he's calling, he's trying to get a phone call with

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Speaker 2: Benyaminett and Yahoo. I kind of I've got to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I kind of like the approach that Albow's taking on this,

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Speaker 2: because I think this is the kind of approach that

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Speaker 2: has to be taken. And I feel like it wouldn't

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Speaker 2: the more if there were more world leaders getting on

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Speaker 2: the blow out of these guys and going listen, we

524
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Speaker 2: have had an absolute guts full of it. My people

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Speaker 2: are furious. Surely it would kind of start to get

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Speaker 2: just shape a bit of sentiment in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: Because I was listening to something the other day. It

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Speaker 2: was a couple of BBC correspondents who are very very experienced,

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Speaker 2: very very connect They were talking about this, and the

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Speaker 2: revelation from them is that the Israelis, at least at

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Speaker 2: the cabinet level, have no idea how upset the world

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Speaker 2: is about what's going on in Gaza. They have no idea.

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Speaker 2: The officials do, because the officials are the ones the

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Speaker 2: diplomats are the ones having to meet with other diplomats

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Speaker 2: around the world and just getting an absolute bollocking from

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Speaker 2: around the world. Theyre the ones having to listen to

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Speaker 2: media in the rest of the world and see what's

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Speaker 2: going on. But actually at the cabinet level in Israel,

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Speaker 2: they've got no idea how upset everybody is. So maybe

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Speaker 2: if everybody around the world's got on the blower to

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Speaker 2: bb and just gave him a bollocking, maybe he might

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Speaker 2: start to realize that there is potentially some value in

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Speaker 2: what Albow's doing.

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Speaker 1: Quarter to politics with centrics credit, check your customers and

545
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Speaker 1: get payment certainty.

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Speaker 2: The Elbow is just grandstanding thirteen away from five Barries.

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Speaker 2: So per senior political correspondence with US, Hey Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Do you reckon that there's going to be a big

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Speaker 2: uproar over this Maca bill.

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, the Three Principles Bill saw the Maldi

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Speaker 8: Party essentially basically enrage a number of people and they

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Speaker 8: got what tens of thousands of people at Parliament. This

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Speaker 8: does retro respectively removed some Maori rights to the Foreshawn

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Speaker 8: Sea bed. But they knew it was going to happen.

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Speaker 8: I mean it was the court that decided, I think

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Speaker 8: wrongly that the Maori claims going back to eighteen forty

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Speaker 8: was overturned, saying it was too hard. That's what the

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Speaker 8: court said. The government said, no, that's the way it

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Speaker 8: should be because customary title can prevent a lot of

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Speaker 8: things happening on the foreshore. Now, the last time the

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Speaker 8: government legislated, of course, against the foreshaw and seabed changes,

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Speaker 8: was in two thousand and four, and that was Helen

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Speaker 8: Clark's government. And you may remember that Tarranaturia she defected

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Speaker 8: from the Labor Party and started the Maldi Party. Although

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Speaker 8: the late Tariana I dealt with that. She would agree

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Speaker 8: with some of the actions of the Maori Party today,

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Speaker 8: but she in fact led the charge. But you know

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Speaker 8: it wasn't as radical as what we see in parliament today.

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Speaker 8: But certainly it does make a lot of difference to

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Speaker 8: claims that were made since midway through last year, about

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Speaker 8: half a dozen claims that were settled. They'll now be overturned.

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Speaker 8: So look, whenever you interfere with something like this, you're

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Speaker 8: always going to get some sort of retribution, and I

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Speaker 8: think the government will be expecting some sort of protest.

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Speaker 8: But we'll have to wait and see. He says it's

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Speaker 8: going to be through by October this year.

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Speaker 2: So you know it doesn't have a long time. As

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Speaker 2: about no non did you see what happened at Winston

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Speaker 2: Peter's press conference yesterday?

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Speaker 8: Well, you know, I found it ridiculous, as if Winston

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Speaker 8: isn't big enough to handle his own questions. He had

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Speaker 8: his senior advisor, John Johansson there telling journalists he was

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Speaker 8: at the Cork Islands celebration of their constitution sixty years

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Speaker 8: with New Zealand. And John Johnson's senior advisor of a

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Speaker 8: former political lecturer at Victoria University, telling journals us to

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Speaker 8: ask non political question.

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Speaker 9: Well what is it?

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Speaker 2: Because he was was Winston. Winston was getting quite a

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Speaker 2: grilling over his relationship with Mark Brown, which is pretty

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Speaker 2: clearly under a lot of pressure because Mark Brown sounds

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Speaker 2: like a bit of a pain in the butt frankly

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Speaker 2: at the minute. And John Johanson piped up and asked

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Speaker 2: reporters if they had any questions that aren't about politics.

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Speaker 8: Unbelievable And this is the very same man. And I'll

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Speaker 8: tell you a particular story. You know what the story is.

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Speaker 8: Back in two thousand and eight in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 8: We confronted Winston Peters at the Senate. He was seeing

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Speaker 8: John McCain, and Winston got agro with us about asking

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Speaker 8: John McCain too many questions, and McCain was telling us

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Speaker 8: that if he had any position of power in the

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Speaker 8: United States, then our anti nuclear legislation would not be

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Speaker 8: a bar to his presidency. Well, not as presiden, he said,

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Speaker 8: if he had any power. And I went on to

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Speaker 8: postulate on here that there is a possibility that John

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Speaker 8: McCain could be the Republican nominee for the presidency. Further

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Speaker 8: down the track, well, our friend John Johnson came out

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Speaker 8: publicly and said it just goes to show how much

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Speaker 8: Barrys open knows about American politics. He would never be

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Speaker 8: the Republican nominee. Well, as it turned out, he's stood

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Speaker 8: against Barack Obama. Obama won, But McCain certain he.

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Speaker 15: Was right there.

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Speaker 2: So is every single time John Johansson does something, still

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Speaker 2: remind him you're going to you're going to you're going

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Speaker 2: to tell everyone, just to make sure that you get

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Speaker 2: him back.

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Speaker 8: I quite, but you know, sometimes you should keep your

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Speaker 8: trap shut. That's my view, and a lot of people

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Speaker 8: would be saying where you could keep.

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Speaker 2: The irony is not lost? Right now, Hey, really quickly,

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Speaker 2: where are we at with that by election?

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Speaker 8: Well, we've got five candidates standing in the by election,

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Speaker 8: but it's really look when you boil it down, it's

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Speaker 8: really a battle between two old Coe radio hosts, Willie

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Speaker 8: Jackson and John Tammy Hitry Tammany Herry is the president

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Speaker 8: of the MALDI party. He'll be running the campaign for them,

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Speaker 8: and Willie Jackson is the campaign manager for PENI, So

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Speaker 8: it'll be a battle between those two because they also

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Speaker 8: rans haven't really got to show Hannah Tommocky Bishop Brian's Yeah,

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Speaker 8: it'll be it'll be interesting. But look, they won't be

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Speaker 8: able to attack the common foe and that's the government,

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Speaker 8: and they won't like to attack each other because there

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Speaker 8: could be in coalition. So aim barlect.

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Speaker 2: And that's going to bring all the spice. Thanks very much,

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Speaker 2: Barry so for seeing your political correspondence even away from five.

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Speaker 16: Entertain the Breakfast New Zealand on air, brunching out of

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Speaker 16: this finding every re others. Eely Iren Gardens, President of

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Speaker 16: the Screen Producers Association Treasure Ireland. I've never watched it obviously,

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Speaker 16: but you put a primetime TV too. Are you telling

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Speaker 16: me you count tele advertising around that that covers it?

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Speaker 7: No, I'm not lying.

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Speaker 6: They cut about fifty million out of spending on local

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Speaker 6: production last year and it's because of big Tech.

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Speaker 16: Should I go on Celebrity Treasure Island give them the help?

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Speaker 6: Well, that would be entirely up to your I invited me.

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Speaker 16: On a number of years ago.

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Speaker 3: But you know they don't pay any money.

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Speaker 6: And you know would I probably would?

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Speaker 3: I reckon?

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Speaker 5: I probably would.

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Speaker 16: I wreck back tomorrow at six am the Mike Husking

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Speaker 16: Breakfast with Rain Drover News talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Here there is just going to be at Oprah.

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Speaker 9: H M.

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Speaker 2: I was going to go to Oprah, but now I'm

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Speaker 2: going to feel like I'm going to have to make

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Speaker 2: some phone calls. Thanks, thank you for that. Actually, thank you.

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Speaker 6: I work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good. I'll do the due diligence for

659
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Speaker 2: You'll let you know, because nobody needs that kind of stress.

660
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine the stress that we would all be in.

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Speaker 2: It was sitting in the room and they just oxygen't

662
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Speaker 2: just be sucked out.

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Speaker 3: Aura.

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Speaker 2: Now this is the app We've talked about, this affair,

665
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Speaker 2: but this is the act that the retailers used to

666
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Speaker 2: report the crime, you know, and it really it sounds

667
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Speaker 2: like it's really brilliant tool. You can put up the

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Speaker 2: CCTV footage and receipts and names and dates of birth

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Speaker 2: and ages of people and blah blah blah, and all

670
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Speaker 2: that kind of stuff set it through to the cops

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Speaker 2: so successful, unfortunately that the cops appear to be completely

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Speaker 2: overwhelmed by it. So we're going to talk to the

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Speaker 2: police about it very shortly.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Fricking Chris Hopkins, he looks like maybe he might be

676
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: walking back the oil and gas thing. Do you remember

677
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Speaker 2: last year I spoke to Chris Hopkins it was August,

678
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Speaker 2: and he was pretty clear that if the oil and

679
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Speaker 2: gas gets underway again, they're just going to reban it.

680
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Speaker 2: Are you going to bring the band back?

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Speaker 17: And we said that we're opposed to the removal of

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Speaker 17: the oil and guests, but you know, the band on

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Speaker 17: new Oil and Guess Exploration, I'm sure and we would

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Speaker 17: reinstate that again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they're going to bring the band back. But then

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Speaker 2: this morning he was on with Ryan and didn't sound

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Speaker 2: the same.

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Speaker 5: Well, we haven't finalized that yet, Ryan.

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Speaker 9: So it's much like the same questions around that you

690
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Speaker 9: were just asking me before when we finalized our policies

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Speaker 9: for the next selection.

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Speaker 5: I'll be happy to answer questions.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit hopeful, isn't it. But was she washy

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Speaker 2: from him? But I'll take wishy washy at the moment

695
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Speaker 2: if it means that we get less stupidity how we've

696
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately his mates at the Greens still want the band,

697
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: so you're gonna have to sort that out, isn't he. Anyway, Listen,

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Speaker 2: let's talk to the unions about how they feel about

699
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Speaker 2: the AI marking the externals from when the new NCAA

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Speaker 2: thing comes in.

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Speaker 11: News talks at bas for a new person over.

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Speaker 1: Again, questions, answers, thanks, analysis, the drive, show you trust

703
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Speaker 1: for the full picture.

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Speaker 3: Heather Duplessy on Drive with One New Zealand Let's get connected.

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Speaker 3: News talks at b afternoon.

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Speaker 2: AI could be marking school assessments once n CEA is

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Speaker 2: completely scrapped. It's actually already being used to mark NCEEA

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Speaker 2: corequisite exams. Chris Abercrombie is the president of the Post

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Speaker 2: Primary Teachers Association and with us right now, Hey, Chris, gooday,

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Speaker 2: how are you good? Thank you? This is a good idea.

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Speaker 13: What was already been used in say in some aspects

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Speaker 13: now of the COREX. I'm not one hundred think convinced

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Speaker 13: AI is there yet.

714
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Speaker 3: To do all of the work.

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Speaker 13: But it's it's we're using it right now.

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Speaker 5: And it seems to be successful.

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Speaker 2: What do you think it can't do.

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Speaker 14: Well?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I've marked in c A exams.

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Speaker 13: I've done that in my time, and I just sort

721
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Speaker 13: of seeing how the student's right understanding, you know, reading

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Speaker 13: between the lines, trying to you know, sometimes you have

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Speaker 13: to figure out what the student's trying to say. And

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Speaker 13: I just don't know if AI is quite there yet

725
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Speaker 13: to be able to do those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: In the case where it is more simple and it's

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Speaker 2: like let's say, mathematics, i'd imagine would be much easier

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Speaker 2: where the ANSWER's got to be twenty six and there's

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Speaker 2: nothing else it can be. Apparently it's as good, if

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Speaker 2: not better than humans. Have you found that?

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Speaker 13: So again we'll just going remember what enz QA said

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Speaker 13: about doing the COREXIT. They've been really happy with the

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Speaker 13: success rate of it, and they've been using human markers

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Speaker 13: to check basically check their I marking in the INTROM.

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Speaker 13: They're being really happy with the success of it. So

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Speaker 13: I think there's definitely some applications for it, but I

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Speaker 13: just don't think it's there yet for everything.

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Speaker 2: Is it the case that teachers will lose money because

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Speaker 2: they get paid for marketing externals at the moment?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so at the moment.

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Speaker 13: So if a teacher applies to be a market they

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Speaker 13: get paid to do that at the end of the

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Speaker 13: year for the end of year exams. So if they

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Speaker 13: are taken away, then yet there will be teachers will

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Speaker 13: be losing money for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any outcry about that just yet.

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Speaker 13: I haven't had any feedback from any of our members

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Speaker 13: yet about that, but we'll be interesting to see as

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Speaker 13: the years go on and we get close and close

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Speaker 13: at that time if that's something that's a concern.

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Speaker 2: Christ You know what is surprising me is basically how

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Speaker 2: well everything that Erica Stanford has done to this point,

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Speaker 2: everything has gone down with people. Is how is it

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Speaker 2: because generally unions will give a national education minister a

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Speaker 2: really hard time, why is that not happening this time?

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Speaker 13: Well, it's never about the party, it's about the policy.

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Speaker 13: And if you've got policy that listens to the sector

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Speaker 13: and then we're going to get behind it. There's some

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Speaker 13: concerns about some of this policy, about the implementation. It's

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Speaker 13: going to be a two years time frame. It's pretty tight,

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Speaker 13: so it's going to have to be really on point

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Speaker 13: and well resourced about to get there. But there's general

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Speaker 13: consensus that some changes need to be made to NCAA.

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Speaker 13: We're already on that progress, particularly around coherence of subject

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Speaker 13: balance between internals externals, and so this meets some of

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Speaker 13: those goals.

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Speaker 2: So you guys feel listened to by her.

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Speaker 13: Definitely at the moment.

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Speaker 5: We do in this aspect and a lot of it,

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Speaker 5: so hopefully that continues.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Hey, thanks Chris, Chris Abercronni Abercrombie PBTA.

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Speaker 3: President Heather dupless elis software.

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Speaker 2: That retailers used to report theft to police is so

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Speaker 2: good that it's actually overwhelming police. It's called Aura, and

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Speaker 2: reports have gone from four thousand a month in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two to eight thousand a month this year. Mike

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Speaker 2: Johnson is the Assistant Commissioner at the New Zealand Police Hey,

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Speaker 2: mikejua Hew.

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Speaker 17: Are you here.

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Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Can you guys investigate everything

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Speaker 2: that it's sending your way.

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Speaker 17: Look, we always have to prioritize all of the information

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Speaker 17: in relation to crime. Theft or shoplifting is absolutely or

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00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 17: retail crime is absolutely a key part of it.

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Speaker 2: So how much do you think you get through or

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Speaker 2: if they send you four thousand or in this case

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Speaker 2: now is obviously eight thousand a month, how much of

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Speaker 2: that gets wrapped up and investigated and finished.

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Speaker 17: Well, what happens with that is we make an assessment

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Speaker 17: on it. If there's lines of inquiry, then it gets

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Speaker 17: forwarded to district for further investigation and holding people to

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Speaker 17: account where we can. If there's no lines of inquiry

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Speaker 17: and that there is a percentage of that, then they

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 17: get assessed, they get closed. But like anything either, if

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Speaker 17: there's further information comes to us in relation to a

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Speaker 17: matter that we previously close, we'll reconsider it as well.

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Speaker 2: It's about ninety seven percent that actually meets you evidential threshold,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 17: It's certainly well a high number. I don't have that

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Speaker 17: number in front of me.

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Speaker 2: So off eight ninety seven percent of getting over the

802
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Speaker 2: threshold is much higher than it was previous to Aura.

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Speaker 2: And now you've got the team who investigate this kind

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Speaker 2: of thing with a backlog so big it's got sixty

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Speaker 2: six thousand cases in January backed up. There's no way

806
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Speaker 2: you're going to be able to get through all this

807
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: stuff is there.

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Speaker 17: So we're always prioritizing either this is a good news story,

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Speaker 17: we want to know what the total crime picture is

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Speaker 17: for us, right and we want to series link. We

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Speaker 17: want to put together where there's prolific offenders and deal

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Speaker 17: with the other matters. Our jobs to prioritize to put

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Speaker 17: resources to the crime type in retail crimes, absolutely in

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Speaker 17: that space. Just make a comment. The technologies change, We've

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Speaker 17: always got to adapt to what comes through, and this

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Speaker 17: is another example of that. And what you're seeing is

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Speaker 17: us pivot in relation to retail crime. We've set up

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Speaker 17: retail crime units. You see city beat teams set up

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Speaker 17: with that presence link to retailers and then with a

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Speaker 17: national Retail Crime Unit investigation unit which deals with some

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Speaker 17: of auer stuff that comes through. There's a number of

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Speaker 17: other reporting lives or it is absolutely a channel in

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Speaker 17: a significant one, but we also have the ten to

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Speaker 17: five online reporting front counter reporting crime Stoppers officer discovered,

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Speaker 17: it's the city beat team. And then if there's an

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Speaker 17: offender present. We've also got the triple one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wow, we've got really off topic. Hey, thanks, Mike,

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Speaker 2: really appreciate it. Mike appreciate a really in depth and

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Speaker 2: our explanation of how that system works. Mike Johnson, Assistant

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Speaker 2: Police Commissioned. Let me just listen, let me just totally

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Speaker 2: explain to you what he just said. No, they're not

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Speaker 2: going to be able to investigate everything that retailer is

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Speaker 2: ascending them. There is too much thirteen past.

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Speaker 3: Five together to see it.

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Speaker 2: But why does it take two court sessions to charge

836
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Speaker 2: your mother for putting her kid in a suitcase like this? Well, allegedly,

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Speaker 2: remember it's allegedly at the moment, because she's before the courts.

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Speaker 2: Fair point, don't know, I suspect. I just wonder if

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Speaker 2: it's because the forensic psychology team now being involved. So

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Speaker 2: what's happened today is that she who is accused of

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Speaker 2: putting her baby girl, the two year old, in the

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Speaker 2: suitcase and then at the bottom of the bus. She

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Speaker 2: has reappeared it. She appeared yesterday, she's reappeared in court

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Speaker 2: this afternoon, has been denied bail. Those are the north

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Speaker 2: Shore District Court. So she is not going to be

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Speaker 2: a leadout. She has to stay in jail. She is

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Speaker 2: now going to be sent to see a forensic psychology team,

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Speaker 2: which I think most of us think is a good

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Speaker 2: idea in these circumstances, because that doesn't feel right minded

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Speaker 2: to do that allegedly. Anyway, what we're now hearing is

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Speaker 2: that the baby was understood to have been in the

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Speaker 2: suitcase for nearly an hour. Police are not saying who

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Speaker 2: is caring for the baby, but it clearly ain old

854
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Speaker 2: mate who's in jail at the moment, and for good reason. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'm not finished talking about this topic. That we'll deal

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00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: with this before the half hour is through. Fourteen past five. Well, listen,

857
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 2: you've got to hear this. BYD these guys are absolutely

858
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: crushing it. Launching in New Zealand and just twenty twenty

859
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: two with the Atto three. There are already over night

860
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: nine thousand BYDS on Kiwi Roads. And get this, every

861
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: single model that they sell here is award winning and

862
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: that is not hype. That is just a fact. You

863
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 2: buy one of their cars, it's won in award Consumer

864
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: magazine even surveyed car owners and BYD owners are the

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Speaker 2: most satisfied They are just loving their vehicles. Right now.

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00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: BYD's got six killer models. They've got the Dolphin, the Seal,

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Speaker 2: the c Lion six, the Sea Lion seven, the A three,

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Speaker 2: and then the Yote, the Shark six. But they're not

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00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: slowing down. Four more are coming by the end of

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Speaker 2: the year. They've got two small cars. They've got a

871
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: medium suv and a mass of seven seater suv. Here's

872
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: where it gets insane though. Globally. BYD is growing at

873
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: a scale we've never seen before. They've got over one

874
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty thousand full time R and D engineers.

875
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: That's just the R and D engineers. That's twice as

876
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: many as Toyota. They are filing forty five plus new

877
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 2: patents in tech every single day. Their new mega factory

878
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 2: where they build the Shark six thirty two thousand acres

879
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: that's half the size of the able Tasman National Park.

880
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty thousand people work there. They went

881
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: from dirt to full production and nine months. Nine months. People.

882
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: These guys are on another level, So check them out

883
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: at BYD Auto dot Co dot mzgether heither I'm a cop.

884
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: We're totally overwhelmed by Aura. Thank you David. Eighteen past five.

885
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 2: Yet again, yet again, the New World promotion is out

886
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: of stock. What a surprise. Shops have started to run

887
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: out of the prize top option, which is the smeg Brasier.

888
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: They're not going to get any more deliveries. Nobody from

889
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: Food Stuffs was available to speak with us today. Once again,

890
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: what a surprise. Consumer. New Zealand CEO John Duffy is

891
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: with me.

892
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 18: Hello, John, Hi here, there are you going.

893
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm well? But this is like Groundhog Day, isn't it?

894
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: Well it is.

895
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 18: Yes, every time a New World runs some of these promotions. Yes,

896
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 18: we do get complaints that that stock has run out.

897
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 18: They do put up you know, in their advertise and

898
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 18: they say well stocked last. But yeah, often the stocks

899
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 18: don't you know, the level of stocks, don't meet people's

900
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 18: expectations and they're run out.

901
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: Who ended this launch? It feels to me like this

902
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 2: launched what like there was it four weeks ago? Or

903
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: am I not being fair here?

904
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 19: No?

905
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 18: It feels about four weeks ago.

906
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: So they want to tell me that they're running out

907
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 2: of the thing that everybody wants about halfway through that's

908
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 2: byes isn't it.

909
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 18: Well, yeah, under the Fit Training Act, they do need

910
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 18: to make sure even when they say well stock last,

911
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 18: they need to have reasonable stocks to meet demand. And

912
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 18: I guess the thing is with these promotions. This is

913
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 18: not their first rodeo. They've done these over the years,

914
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 18: so they do know that these promotions are popular. I

915
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 18: can't make any comment on whether their stock levels are

916
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 18: appropriate because they don't know the level of demand. But yeah,

917
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,280
Speaker 18: they need to buy law make sure that their stocks

918
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 18: are appropriate.

919
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: Okay, So should I mean, look, just for goodwill? I

920
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: know that they can't I understand the logistics of the thing,

921
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: right they can't possibly actually fully imagine how many people engage,

922
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: how many people would want to have this particular thing.

923
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 2: But surely the smart thing to do for good will

924
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: would be would be to say, if you have a

925
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: stick of full of the things and you want to

926
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: bring it in and we'll go and order you another one.

927
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: Shouldn't they do that because they can?

928
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 18: Right well, I'm not sure if they can. It may

929
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 18: depend on the deal that they've got with Smeg, who's

930
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 18: the manufacturer here. It could be that this is you know,

931
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 18: end of line stock or you know, whatever the deal

932
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 18: is that they've got so that they can offer them

933
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 18: on you know, effectively on special through the promotion. So

934
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 18: maybe that they can't get any more that there's a

935
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 18: closed window. But I don't know that really is for

936
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 18: food stuff to say, did those of you right?

937
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: I know in the past people have complained to the

938
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: Commerce Commission about similar things. Do they ever go anywhere?

939
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 18: Well, my understanding is that there was a promotion on

940
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 18: knives a couple of years ago or even last year,

941
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 18: and I think the knife block ran out earlier than people.

942
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: As well. A that's the one people wanted.

943
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 18: Well, it kind of was because you've got to the end,

944
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 18: collected all the nights and you're like, well where am

945
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 18: I going to put these things? Let's go get the

946
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 18: knife block. But there I don't know what the actual

947
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 18: number was. There was only five available nationwide, and they

948
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 18: ran out pretty quickly. It wasn't that small. Please don't

949
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 18: sue me, food stuffs.

950
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: But cares if they do. You want to talk about it,

951
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: so whatever, you can say, whatever you want, John right.

952
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 18: Now, Well, the issue really was that the knife blocks

953
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 18: ran out quicker than people anticipated. And my understanding was

954
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 18: there were complaints to the Comms Comission. Whether it was

955
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 18: specifically on that issue or not, I'm not sure, but

956
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 18: no doubt the Comms Comission had a look at it

957
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 18: and probably repeated to food Stuff's what I've just said that, Hey,

958
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 18: you need to make sure you've got reasonable stocks and

959
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 18: before you advertise these promotions.

960
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: And yet here we are again, John, Thanks so much,

961
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: John Duffy, Consumer New Zealand CEO. The promotion started on

962
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 2: the ninth of June, you idiot, thank you. That harsh,

963
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: But we're in the mode of being harsh at the moment,

964
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: so I'll take it. Ninth of June's that's two months.

965
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 2: Another month is to go. So there two thirds of

966
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 2: the way through and they've run out. I still don't

967
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: think that I still don't think that it's on FIO.

968
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Informed inside into today's issues. It's Heather Duplicy Ellen drive

969
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: with one New Zealand. Let's get connected news talks.

970
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 9: That'd be neither.

971
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: We've got a few of the smega items already. Just

972
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: buy the more when the promotion opens, which is the

973
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: point I suppose. So five twenty five, listen, I want

974
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: to talk about kids being bashed by their families. We've

975
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: had a really bad run of it. I don't know

976
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: if you realized in the last few weeks, as far

977
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: as I can see, just in the last eight weeks,

978
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: just what I've seen, We've had the toddler in the suitcase.

979
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: We've had the baby in the bin in Auckland. We've

980
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: had a two month old go to hospital with serious

981
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: injuries that happened today. We've had a three month old

982
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: taken to hospital in Wellington in June, and we've had

983
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: a six month old critically injured at a Foxton beach

984
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: house in July. And we've hardly talked about this. I mean,

985
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: we've talked about the toddler in the suitcase yesterday. I

986
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: mean world media talked about the toddler in the suitcase

987
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: yesterday because it is so bizarre it's hard to ignore.

988
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: We talked about the baby and the bin. That got

989
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 2: about a day's worth of coverage again because that was

990
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 2: pretty out there, ah, putting a baby in a bin.

991
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: But everything else almost no coverage. Now do you know

992
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: why that is? I mean, part of it is obviously

993
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: that this is now not unusual anymore. We just bash

994
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: our babies all the time in this country apparently, But

995
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 2: also because you're not actually allowed to talk about it.

996
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: I don't know if you realize this, but if the

997
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: moment that autong Atomatiki, which is the new sif's the

998
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: moment that ot uplifts a kid, the family caught orders

999
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: basically automatic blanket suppression on it, which means the police

1000
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 2: can't say anything. It means ot itself can't say anything.

1001
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: It means the media can't say anything. So the news

1002
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: coverage just basically dies. We got babies gone to hospital.

1003
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 2: That's the end of it, no more coverage. It's actually

1004
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 2: only when the child dies that we can talk about

1005
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 2: it in detail, because there is now no young person

1006
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: to protect anymore. Now, isn't that the opposite of what

1007
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 2: we want? I mean, I think this is doing our

1008
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: kids a disservice. I understand why we did this in

1009
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: the first place, while we put these suppression orders in.

1010
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 2: The idea was to protect the privacy of these young people.

1011
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: But what it is also doing is it's protecting the

1012
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: privacy of the thugs and their families who put them

1013
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: in hospital or in the suitcase or in the bin.

1014
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: And what it also means is that no one then

1015
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: talks about what's going on. We're not horrified by the

1016
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: detail because there is no details, so we don't talk

1017
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 2: about it, including politicians. They should be the ones pitching

1018
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: solutions at the rate that we're bashing our kids. This

1019
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: should be an election issue every single election, but it's

1020
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 2: not because we hardly talk about it because of the rules.

1021
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: So surely the rules.

1022
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: Should change, Heather Duplicy, Ellen, here's a weird.

1023
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: One for you, and let me know what you think

1024
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: about that. Actually, we talk to the huddle about it.

1025
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: Here's a weird one you don't Nobby Clark And in

1026
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: Vicargol his brother is now running for the mayor of

1027
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 2: him Vercargol. That's not the weird bit. The weird bit

1028
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: is the brother's running for the mayor of m Vicargol

1029
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: at the same time as running for the mayor of Tasman,

1030
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: where he lives, and under two different names. And in

1031
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Vicargo he's Andrew Clark and Tasman he's Maxwell Clark, and

1032
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: apparently if he wins both elections, he can be mayor

1033
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: in both places at the same time with his split personality. Anyway,

1034
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't know which one he's bringing to us, but

1035
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: we're going to have him with one of those personalities.

1036
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Next on the iHeart app and in your car on

1037
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 1: your drive home it's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive New Zealand.

1038
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: Let's get connected news dogs, they'd.

1039
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 11: Be don't you win the buddy, I can do this all.

1040
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 2: Hey, abuse you if you wanted to put one of

1041
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: those little garages or something in the backyard and you

1042
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 2: haven't got much space. They're changing the rules. This is

1043
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 2: Chris Pink. He's changing the rules so you can push

1044
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: it right up against the boundary fence, which might actually

1045
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: might actually work for a little yard in Auckland nowadays.

1046
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: We'll have a chat to him about that after six

1047
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: the huddle standing by. We've got David Ferrer and Stuart

1048
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: Nash right now, twenty four away from six. Now we've

1049
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: got a case of one man running for mayor in

1050
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: two different parts of the country. So Andrew Maxwell George Clark,

1051
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 2: who's the brother in Thecaggol's current mayor, Nobby Clark, is

1052
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 2: running in in Vicargol as Andrew Clark, but he's also

1053
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: running in Tasman as Maxwell Clark. And he's with us now.

1054
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 14: Hello mate, good evening, thank you hearer.

1055
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 2: So what do I call you? Are you Andrew or

1056
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: Maxwell today.

1057
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 14: Well, I mean two, I'm that's normal name I can

1058
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 14: I've always been known as My first name is Andrew,

1059
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 14: as you're well aware. Since my school days, I've been

1060
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 14: known as Maxwell locally. All my business and correspondent's come

1061
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 14: to me through Andrew Clark and Nelson. I'm known as Maxwell,

1062
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 14: so I think it's appropriate to use that name locally.

1063
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 14: And Andrew, as I said, is my preferred name, and

1064
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 14: that I'm known locally as well. So I've made a

1065
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 14: full disclosure to the electoral officer. That's how it goes.

1066
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 14: I don't see the issue with it. I'm quite surprised

1067
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 14: that it has become an issue.

1068
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: No, I think it's probably more of a quirk than

1069
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: an issue. But the issue is why you're running in

1070
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: two different places at the same time. Is this you

1071
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 2: just hedging your beds?

1072
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 6: No, it's not.

1073
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 14: I look at things logically. When I put my application

1074
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 14: and a Tasman here, the Tasman mayor was undecided whether

1075
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 14: you'd stand or not. So really speaking, you think there's

1076
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 14: a reasonable opportunity. It's very there for standing mere to

1077
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 14: be uh you know, up in the elections. If he's

1078
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 14: done a reasonable job and if he's not standing, there's

1079
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 14: a better chance to stand there. But when he nominated,

1080
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 14: he was standing, and so there were four candidates. And

1081
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 14: locally here I was approached by business people from in

1082
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 14: Vocago and some local rate payers who have known me

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Speaker 14: for a long time. And at the last minute they

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Speaker 14: suggest to me, why didn't I put my name forward

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Speaker 14: the and the vacancy and in Vcago And I quite honestly,

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Speaker 14: I'm very passionate about the people in in Vcagole. I

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Speaker 14: think that the economic situation is very good, and I

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Speaker 14: like the environment, and I'm generally very impressed with the place.

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Speaker 14: So I thought, well why not.

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Speaker 2: So then why don't you put out of the Tasman

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Speaker 2: race if you going if you're going for the Ambago race.

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Speaker 14: Now, well you can't do that once. Once the nomination's

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Speaker 14: closed unless you can get a medical certificate to you can't.

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Speaker 14: You can't withdraw your nomination.

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Speaker 2: So you don't want to run in Tasman. You don't

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Speaker 2: want wind Tasman. You want to win in v Cargo.

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Speaker 14: Now I'm very keen to winning the Cargole. I'm standing

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Speaker 14: in both. If I got both, well, it would be

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Speaker 14: a very good position to be in It's quite interesting

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Speaker 14: because in both places there's a similar size council and

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Speaker 14: I think the knowledge you gain from one that's got

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Speaker 14: an advantage to the other. And when you stand in

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Speaker 14: the council position at a mayor's level, you've got access

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Speaker 14: to knowledge which is an information which is very helpful

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Speaker 14: for both countis does it what.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me right now? It sounds like you're actually

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Speaker 2: planning to if you were to win both do both jobs.

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Speaker 14: I would have to consider it at that point in time,

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Speaker 14: So I would.

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Speaker 2: Have you got enough energy for both? Jeez, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I have enough energy for both?

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Speaker 7: Do you?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 6: I have?

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Speaker 14: I've got many advantage you know, and I've done well.

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Speaker 14: Basically my background is in the health industry. I've worked

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Speaker 14: a long time. I co own an ambulance company. I'm

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Speaker 14: an intensive care paramedic and emergency here in there. I've

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Speaker 14: got a lifetime commitment to helping others and it's my

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Speaker 14: belief that I can help both both counsels. One of

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Speaker 14: the critical things is what comes into the equations. The

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Speaker 14: government's policy towards councils this day that they want you

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Speaker 14: to share knowledge, they want you to share resources and

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Speaker 14: everything else. And if you looked at them, the Cargol

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Speaker 14: and you looked at Tasman, there quite opposite in a

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Speaker 14: lot of directions, and a good good example would be

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Speaker 14: an inn Vercagol. They're very keen to bringing a water

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Speaker 14: charge and put meeters in the charge the locals. They

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Speaker 14: currently charge eight hundred dollars per per household for water rates.

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Speaker 14: Now talking to my brother when he was talking freely

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Speaker 14: to me and other counselors, they're very keen to introduce

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Speaker 14: its water meeters and charges. I've had the experience in

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Speaker 14: Nelson to realize what it means. I have a bill

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Speaker 14: a normal charge of five hundred dollars or five hundred

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Speaker 14: and fifty dollars in my property and my rate my

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Speaker 14: water charges in the last six months was six hundred

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Speaker 14: and fifty dollars. Now there's three of us in the household.

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Speaker 2: Now, well, okay, Andrew, I'm gonna have to stop you

1139
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Speaker 2: there because like this is this is fascinating, but also

1140
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Speaker 2: a lot of detail for everybody else. So I can

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00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: I get the vibe you're going to share your knowledge

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00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: from one part of the world to the other. Thank

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00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: you for your time, Andrew Clark Tasman and in Vicargo

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Speaker 2: meural candidate the.

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Speaker 1: Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, Unique Homes, Uniquely

1146
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 1: for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm the huddle with me this evening we have David

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00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 2: farakiw we blog and Curi Opolster and Stuart Ash, Robert

1149
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: Walter's former Labor Party minister. Hello are you too?

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00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 19: Hello David?

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00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 9: How are you yah?

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00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: How did we did we know that you could do this?

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00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 18: Do you you know?

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00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 10: I wish this guy's had the same name as his brother.

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00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 10: His brother's name is Nobby Clark, because what a bloody knob.

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00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 5: I mean, how can you.

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Speaker 10: Be passionate about one area, stand for another and expect

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00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 10: me to vote for you.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, there's a truth to pa, David.

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Speaker 10: This guy's taking the purse and I hope Joones acknowledge it,

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00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 10: and I hope he gets last. You can't go and

1162
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 10: say you're passion about one and run to the mirror

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Speaker 10: of another district.

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Speaker 6: Goodnessmith, David, Well the whole sun auto with the two names. Raw,

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00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 6: there's the sabbation. I'm like, did he just hope no

1166
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Speaker 6: one would notice that's the same person after the election?

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Speaker 2: Anything?

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Speaker 6: I imagine where someone might stand for the mayoralty of

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Speaker 6: two neighboring districts, but you know they're both in the

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Speaker 6: South Island. I guess, really, big, did you know?

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Speaker 2: Did you know David, that there's another person doing it,

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Speaker 2: Peter Wakeman, who's running for mayor in CHRISTI gener also

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Speaker 2: in Auckland.

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Speaker 6: No is he though one of the not particularly serious candidates.

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Speaker 9: I guess.

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Speaker 6: I mean having said that Tim macargoll, Tim shed Bolt

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Speaker 6: was the outsider and he got and bought was it

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Speaker 6: twenty two terms or something?

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Speaker 10: Well, look that this guy, mister Clark whatever we call

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00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 10: I'm Andrew, he said, I'm not too sure. I mean

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00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 10: he's got on here the deep c Allen right, he's

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Speaker 10: got on drive drives.

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Speaker 8: When this PR campaign has going brilliantly so far.

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Speaker 2: Now listen, ste if we're funding trash TV instead of netball,

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Speaker 2: doesn't that tell you we need a complete shakeup of

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Speaker 2: how we fund tally.

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Speaker 10: You know, TV and Z is losing what fifty million dollars?

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00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 10: Just give it up, fellas. I'm sure the government's got

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Speaker 10: better things to spend its money on it. When I

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Speaker 10: read this TV and Z funding reality TV.

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Speaker 2: It's New Zealand on air it's New Zealand on air.

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00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 10: Well, New Zealand their funding reality TV? Really what about?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 10: I don't mind documentaries that find it hard to raise

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Speaker 10: money in the sort of camera, but reality TV give

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Speaker 10: me a break.

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Speaker 2: I can't give money. I can't be okay with this, David.

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Speaker 2: And in fact, I don't even want to fund what

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Speaker 2: ste said, which is documentaries that can't raise money. I reckon,

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Speaker 2: we should be chucking our money at things that we

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Speaker 2: think are going to be commercially successful, don't we.

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Speaker 6: Well, most of all, what New Zealand on is meant

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00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 6: to be is for things that were distinctive New Zealand

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Speaker 6: culture which had no chance of being seen there, but've

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Speaker 6: lost their way they now fund. They're really just a

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Speaker 6: sub steen now for the local industry, rather than what

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Speaker 6: they're meant to be. They're look reality TV. I remember Survivor, right,

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Speaker 6: You don't actually care if it's New Zealanders on Survivor Americans.

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Speaker 6: You watch for the drama. It doesn't Having some Kiwis

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Speaker 6: on there doesn't make it a Kiwi culture show. So no,

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Speaker 6: they should not be funding reality TV. They should not

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Speaker 6: be funding half of what they fund. You know, there's

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Speaker 6: a case for news, current affairs, documentaries, things that reflect

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Speaker 6: our unique heritage, some to the Mari programming, etc. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: doesn't just rubbish.

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Speaker 2: Also, I mean is other days stew where where we

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Speaker 2: fund things for the small screen actually over? Because if

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Speaker 2: you want to see a New Zealand accident in New

1219
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: Zealand face and New Zealand storyline, you can actually just

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Speaker 2: go on your Facebook. And there are heaps of comedians

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Speaker 2: putting reels out for free on Facebook right now. I

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Speaker 2: don't need that.

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Speaker 10: I'd love to know how many of your listeners actually

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00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 10: the last time they watched TV and said that you

1225
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 10: might watch the news every now and again and maybe

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Speaker 10: country calendar or something along those lines. That the bottom

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Speaker 10: line is the vast major already people when they watch

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Speaker 10: TV they go to Netflix or something else along the line.

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Speaker 10: So they're flogging a dead horse.

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Speaker 2: Have you watched Mobland?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Oh, you need to watch mob Bland. Have you watched Mobland, David?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 1: Not yet.

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00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh, you guys are going to change your evening.

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Speaker 6: Go on Prime.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's the cheapest one. It's about twelve ninety

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00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: nine a month and you'll enjoy it very much. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: listen let's take a break, come back and just to

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Speaker 2: take its quarter two.

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Speaker 1: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the ones

1242
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: for unmassed results.

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Speaker 2: Right, we're back of the huddle, David Farrerh and Stuart Nash.

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Speaker 2: Now now, David, I have been perplexed in the last

1245
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Speaker 2: wee while as to why we're not reporting and talking

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Speaker 2: a lot more about what's going on with kids, because

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00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: in the last eight weeks we've had a kid in

1248
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 2: a suitcase, a kid in a bin, and three kids

1249
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 2: three months, two months, and six months taken to hospital

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00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: with injuries and it's hardly actually been reported apart from

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00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: the bin in the suitcase. Turns out it's because we

1252
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: can't actually talk about it because of suppression rules. Do

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00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 2: we not need to change these rules so that we

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Speaker 2: can talk about this stuff.

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Speaker 6: I do think they need to be relaxed, somewhat absolutely raw,

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Speaker 6: you have to pre tech, you fear trial, etc. This

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Speaker 6: is I mean as an epidemic, and you know, I

1258
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 6: remember being told that, you know, once we'd been parents

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Speaker 6: from smacking their kids on the hand, this would turn

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Speaker 6: around our terrible child's abuse stats, and they've only got worse.

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Speaker 6: And there are factors in these cases which are known,

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Speaker 6: but we can't talk about them because, as you say,

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Speaker 6: it gets oppressed. And you know, two two and a

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Speaker 6: half years later, when you get the coroner's report or

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00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 6: the trial is over, you can, but you've lost their

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00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 6: emotional connection to get people to be blunt angry enough

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Speaker 6: to demand age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. What do you thinks to you?

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Speaker 10: You know what I'd really like to see here there

1270
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 10: is our community leaders about various diverse communities up and

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Speaker 10: down the country stand up and start condemning this. I

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00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 10: don't think it should be up to you know, New

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00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 10: Zealand's most popular radio hosts to go online and make

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 10: people aware of this. It does need to be people

1275
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 10: in our community standing up and going you know what,

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00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 10: people knew this was happening, but they did not speak up.

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Speaker 10: And people have been got have not to be given

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Speaker 10: the right, the mandate, whatever it is, the power to say, hey,

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01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 10: this just isn't right. But it's not good enough for

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 10: us to to you know, to read about this or

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01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 10: hear about on the news and switch over and talk.

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Speaker 2: About the black The point that you're making is, and

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01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: this is a good points to you, is that if

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01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 2: a kid is getting bashed, people generally know that kid

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01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 2: is getting bashed, right, whether they're the neighbors or the

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01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: wider family or the community, they'll know and something somehow

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01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: the community needs to get involved, even if it's at

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 2: the leadership level or somewhere. You've got to talk about it.

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Speaker 10: You know, your lessons will remember the car who each twins,

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Speaker 10: a very famous case. No one went down for that

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01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 10: two twins were murdered. You can't tell me that people

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01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 10: didn't know that was going on, but no one spoke up.

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01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 10: In fact, worse, they protected someone who murdered two kids.

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Speaker 2: They know, they know who did it, well, they know,

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Speaker 2: of course the family knows who did it.

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Speaker 10: People know who did it, but they protected And that

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Speaker 10: is outrageous. And this is happening far too often in

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Speaker 10: our communities, and like you say, we should be a

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Speaker 10: lot more outraged than we are the fact that it

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Speaker 10: can't be reported on. I buy into David's argument. You know,

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Speaker 10: we've got a there's something about a fair trial and

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Speaker 10: the process, but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be having

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Speaker 10: this conversation in a way which is a lot more

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Speaker 10: vocal and a lot more engaged than it currently is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Hey David, how do you feel about AI

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Speaker 2: marking the exams?

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Speaker 3: Good move?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think that's absolutely fine. Not a only

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Speaker 6: Will is already going through court discovery documents, etc. Summarizing them.

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Speaker 6: You still want a human to review stuff, But there's

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Speaker 6: absolutely nothing wrong with having AI scan through hundreds of

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Speaker 6: thousands of pages and come up with what I'd call

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Speaker 6: us a draft. Yeah, school, and you just need to

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Speaker 6: have some order, scene checking, et cetera.

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Speaker 10: There, No, Look, I don't agree with that, David. I

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Speaker 10: think AI should be making everything. Humans are the ones

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Speaker 10: that create the eraas AI will give you kid Ai.

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Speaker 10: AI will give you consistency from Kai TI down to bluff.

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Speaker 10: And I think this is fantastic. In fact, AI is

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Speaker 10: doing this sort of stuff at the moment. By the

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Speaker 10: time that the Minister rolls this out, AI will be

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Speaker 10: smarter than any human. In fact, this is brilliant. And

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Speaker 10: if I was a teacher, I'd be going about time,

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Speaker 10: I'm finally going to use AI in the classroom in

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Speaker 10: a way that's going to save me a whole lit.

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Speaker 2: I was worried. I was worried to you that everybody

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Speaker 2: would freak out because because AI feels to me like

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Speaker 2: something people want to be freaked out, like ge, do

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And they don't understand it.

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Speaker 2: But I'm heartened by the fact that you're all in

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Speaker 2: on this.

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Speaker 10: Oh, this is brilliant. Like I said, every teacher should

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Speaker 10: be going to Thank God, there's five hours out of

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Speaker 10: my week taking because AI is going to market a

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Speaker 10: teaching but it's going to be consistent. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 10: if you're a sixty year old teacher in Kaitai, a

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Speaker 10: thirty old teacher in Napier, or a new grad down

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Speaker 10: and Nmbicago. It is going to deliver consistency and that's

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Speaker 10: what parents want.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. David, did you get into the smeag thing? Did

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Speaker 2: you get the stickers?

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Speaker 10: No?

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Speaker 6: I'm going to countdown a Woolworth persons. So I haven't

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Speaker 6: been there, but I have suffered the happens with all

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Speaker 6: the supermarkets. Finally get enough stickers and they've got like

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Speaker 6: the least popular items still available, but none of the

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Speaker 6: stuff you really want. And again, you think this would

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Speaker 6: have been enough of these competitions that they can work

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Speaker 6: out to plant demand.

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Speaker 2: What do you I mean? I'm starting to think, actually, Stu,

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Speaker 2: maybe they're doing it deliberately for the attention.

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Speaker 10: Well, okay, like like someone else at the beginning of

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Speaker 10: your show here that this has now got z B.

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Speaker 10: Have you the most popular show on radio, it's got

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Speaker 10: it's got here. So you've just given these guys a

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Speaker 10: hold out for you.

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Speaker 2: You're lining yourself up a fight with Hosking if you

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Speaker 2: carry on like this talking about this.

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Speaker 10: I would much rather they cut the stickers and drop

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Speaker 10: the price of butter, then.

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Speaker 8: Listen to you.

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Speaker 2: Nichola Willis, Hey, thank you very much. Guys really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: David Farrer and Stuart nash Our huddle this evening. It's

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Speaker 2: eight away from six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Full Show podcast on

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Speaker 1: my Heart Radio powered by News Talk z B.

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Speaker 2: Hither. I'm working at Starship. We see kids bash to

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Speaker 2: death and permanently disabled weekly because we protect the perpetrators.

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be this way. It's heartbreaking and maddening. Yeah, listen,

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Speaker 2: I have actually met somebody who works at Starship in

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Speaker 2: the surgical team, and they sometimes have a realization, not

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Speaker 2: not infrequently, frequently, have the realization that they are operating

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Speaker 2: on a kid that's been put there by their parents,

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Speaker 2: and that they're fixing that kid up to send them home,

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Speaker 2: for that kid to come back. There's something very very

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Speaker 2: wrong with us, say very very wrong with us. And

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Speaker 2: actually can I just a text that didn't put this

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Speaker 2: well enough for me to be able to read this

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Speaker 2: on air, But basically the sentiment of the text was,

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Speaker 2: what is up with parties on the left? And I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at you the Mardy Party, and I'm looking at

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Speaker 2: you the Green Party. You sit there with your Gaza

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Speaker 2: scarves on and yet constantly going on about not that

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Speaker 2: that's unworthy, it is worthy, but where is all of

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Speaker 2: the angst about what's going on in this country to

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Speaker 2: our kids? That's radio silence. I mean, you can get

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Speaker 2: a lot of media attention for what you're going on

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Speaker 2: about with Gaza. And again I say, I care about

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Speaker 2: the kids of Gaza as well, and I do want

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Speaker 2: to see them fed. But that is a situation that's

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Speaker 2: happening right now, right the situation with us bashing our

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Speaker 2: kids has been going on for donkeys us and year.

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Speaker 2: Hardly a word out of those guys near a word

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Speaker 2: now to be fair, to be fair, to be fair

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Speaker 2: to them, No politician talks about it because we can't

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Speaker 2: talk about it, so maybe we should now on another

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Speaker 2: subject altogether. This is weird as if you've watched Yellowstone,

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Speaker 2: you'll know one of the big problems that they've gotten

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Speaker 2: that part of the world is that the wolves get

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Speaker 2: onto the land and eat the animals. Ah really hard

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Speaker 2: to stop the wolves because they're running such big tracts

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Speaker 2: of land. There's no way that you can really mind

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Speaker 2: all of it at once and keep the wolves out.

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Speaker 2: So what they've done is they've come up with another

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Speaker 2: way of deterring that the wolves from coming on and

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Speaker 2: eating the animals. They fly drones, and these drones are

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Speaker 2: equipped with thermal cameras, and the thermal cameras can see

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Speaker 2: the wolves in the dark, and when they find one,

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Speaker 2: they turn on the spotlight and they bathe this wolve

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Speaker 2: in light, which is freaky, and then they start playing

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Speaker 2: at really freaky noises like fireworks or gunshot. You can

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Speaker 2: imagine be like an intense like intensely stressful situation. Got

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Speaker 2: all this light and you got and then and then

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Speaker 2: they blast ac dc at the animal or the sounds

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Speaker 2: of humans fighting here are such a dash every day.

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Speaker 3: Help your dad, don't like it.

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Speaker 15: If I can guarantee every repeal, i'd look and they

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Speaker 15: can get by in time, Doe.

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Speaker 2: That is literally the fight that they play the wolves.

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Speaker 2: That is the fight between Scarlett Johnson and Adam Driver

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Speaker 2: and the movie Magic story basically marriage story rather not

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Speaker 2: magic at all. Basically what they're trying to do as

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Speaker 2: they're trying to freak. You know how if you see

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Speaker 2: two dogs fighting, ah, you look at me. Dogs. Dogs

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Speaker 2: are scary. I don't want to get involved in that.

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Speaker 2: That's basically what they're doing. They're like fight Scarlet, fight Adam,

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Speaker 2: scare the wolves.

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Speaker 3: You're such a deck.

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Speaker 15: Every day I wake up when I help your debt,

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Speaker 15: don't like it. If I can guarantee every repeal, I

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Speaker 15: don't think cann and they can get by and tie.

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Speaker 2: After that, the wolves see one of us coming at them,

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Speaker 2: they're like run Talk Garages Next with Chris Pink.

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Speaker 3: Keeping track of where the money is flowing.

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Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Hither Dutiles, Allen and Mas for

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Speaker 1: Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

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Speaker 3: News Talk said, be.

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Speaker 2: Evening coming up. At the next hour, We've got that

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Speaker 2: unemployment number tomorrow. Paul Blockson is going to talk us

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Speaker 2: through that Jamie McKay on the future of the Alliance

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 2: Group and Ender Brady will do the UK for US

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 2: seven past six, so we have a little bit more

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Speaker 2: slashing of red tape for homeowners. Government has decided you're

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Speaker 2: going to be able to build yourself a single story

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Speaker 2: building under ten square meters, so think a small garage

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Speaker 2: or shed or something like that on the property on

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Speaker 2: the property boundary without any mandatory set back distance. For

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Speaker 2: buildings that are slightly bigger ten to thirty square meters,

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Speaker 2: the mandatory set back distance will be reduced to one meter.

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Speaker 2: Previously you had to get consent for that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Chris Pink is the Minister for Building in Construction High Chris, Hello, Heather,

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Speaker 2: how far out would you have had to build it

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Speaker 2: in the past.

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Speaker 20: Well, it depends on the size of the shed, but

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Speaker 20: the usual rule is that the height of the shed

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Speaker 20: dictates the distance that you need to have set back

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Speaker 20: from the boundary or another building. So just making it

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Speaker 20: a bit more clear cuts and straightforward, as well as

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Speaker 20: a bit freer for people to do what they like

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Speaker 20: in their own backyard.

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Speaker 2: Right, So if you're building a shed that I don't know,

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Speaker 2: let's say, is a couple of meters high, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: you do then it's a couple of meters back from

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Speaker 2: the fence.

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Speaker 20: Is it currently, Yes, but we're going to do a

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Speaker 20: blanket roll if it's less than ten square meters, so

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Speaker 20: obviously floor area, then you can go right up to

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Speaker 20: the fence and you know, up to thirty square meters

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Speaker 20: that becomes one meter.

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Speaker 2: What was the justification for that setback, Well, there's.

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Speaker 20: A reasonable point to be made about fire safety. But

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Speaker 20: when you have a blanket roll and you don't think

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Speaker 20: about the likelihood of something that's going to start a

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Speaker 20: fight in a very small structure, I mean under you know,

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Speaker 20: up to ten square meters you can barely fill a

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Speaker 20: box of matches in and you're certainly not having heavy

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Speaker 20: machinery or people living their best life in there. So

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Speaker 20: you know, just a bit of a proportionate approach. Is

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Speaker 20: actually the smallers, the less risk it is, and therefore

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Speaker 20: the closer you can get to the boundary. And obviously

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Speaker 20: in a world where people are trying to do more

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Speaker 20: with less space, that kind of makes sense for the

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Speaker 20: modern age.

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Speaker 2: So you don't have to get building consent now. But

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Speaker 2: do you still have the file paperwork and stuff. No,

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Speaker 2: so totally paperwork free, like the count doesn't need to

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Speaker 2: know a thing about it. You just put up your

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Speaker 2: shed in a way you go.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: I mean, to be fair, we're not we're not changing

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Speaker 20: anything in that regard. But a previous rule change from

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Speaker 20: a while back had been that you don't need a

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Speaker 20: building consents and therefore to go through the full pilavora

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Speaker 20: of records and so on, and if you're under thirty

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Speaker 20: square meters.

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Speaker 2: I read that this came through the tip line. Are

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Speaker 2: you getting a fairly decent sized level of kind of

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Speaker 2: suggestions through that tip line?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, there's been some really good ones, actually, I mean

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Speaker 20: this is one that caught my eye, but actually also

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Speaker 20: caught David Seymour's eye. So today's announcement was a bit

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Speaker 20: of a joint venture. Who as regulation minister, you know,

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Speaker 20: controlling the tip line or listening carefully to what's out there,

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Speaker 20: and it just so happened to fall within my remit

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Speaker 20: as building and construction. So we both rocked up to

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Speaker 20: the site where someone had dubbed themselves in for having

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Speaker 20: an unlawful shed, and we thought we could make the

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Speaker 20: problem go away.

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Speaker 9: So we did.

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Speaker 2: Have you got eyes on what's coming through that tip line.

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Speaker 20: I don't as a matter of course, but when they

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Speaker 20: fall within one of my portfolios, and building and construction

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01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 20: tends to be the that you get a lot of

1514
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 20: these niggles and inconsistencies and uncertainties. Then then then you know,

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Speaker 20: David and his team give me heads up, which is

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Speaker 20: really good.

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Speaker 2: Has he given you a heads up on any other ones?

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Speaker 20: Uh No, but other ministers who are in relevant areas would,

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01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 20: So you know, it's a cleverative effort because we're on

1520
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 20: the same page. You know, we've got to unblock the

1521
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 20: difficulty that people have living their best life, not doing

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Speaker 20: anyhow to anyone else.

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Speaker 2: I'm nosy because I'm really enjoying this type line, so

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Speaker 2: I want to know everything. Anyway. Listen, Chris, we have

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Speaker 2: we've got a bit of a construction construction slump going on,

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Speaker 2: and apparently it's we're now in a renewed slump. Are

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Speaker 2: you worried about what's going on here?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, it's obviously been a really tough time for for

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Speaker 20: the last few years, so I mean, there's nothing new

1530
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,720
Speaker 20: about that within within the last few years. It's not

1531
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Speaker 20: that the middle of this year is necessarily worse in

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Speaker 20: the middle of last year. But the difficulty has been

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01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,640
Speaker 20: that people had hoped and expected that by now we

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01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 20: would be out of it.

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Speaker 4: So we've really.

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Speaker 20: Stabilized at a low level and in turn having cycles

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01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 20: of boom and bust isn't new for the sector, but

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Speaker 20: it's been a long one and so that's what we're

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 20: really keen. Apart from getting the macro economic settings right

1540
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Speaker 20: with inflation under control, interstrates coming down in all the

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01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 20: things that then stimulate people to want to be able

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01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 20: to build, we also know we've got to make the

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01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 20: rules easier for people when they do get to that place.

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Speaker 20: Otherwise we'll just prolong the effect because it will take

1545
01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 20: that much longer for people to get the consents and

1546
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 20: do the build good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Chris, thanks very much. Chris Pink, Minister for Building and Construction.

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Speaker 2: Eleven past six, Heather Do for Sel. We've got a

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Speaker 2: new type of avocado in the country. It appears to

1550
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: have just been well, when I say, just being discovered,

1551
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: maybe you know, being discovered a little while ago, but

1552
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 2: we're just acknowledging that it's a new one. A chap

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 2: called Harry has discovered this huge avocado tree at an

1554
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 2: open home in Nelson, and he's bought the property, and

1555
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 2: he joked that he'd bought the property in part because,

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01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 2: you know, the avocado tree was awesome. The previous owner

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01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 2: had planted as a seedling and the thing had just

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Speaker 2: growing up. It turns out now that this is a

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Speaker 2: different kind of avocado. It's self fertile, non fibrous, has

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Speaker 2: a smooth and creamy texture, and is nutty in flavor.

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Speaker 2: It is not your typical avocado because it is cold tolerant.

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01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 2: So at the moment, even though it's pretty cold down there,

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01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: they are getting green shoots apparently. And it's also thought

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01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: to be resistant to FIGHTO thorer, which I've pronounced every

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: single every single dip what's that called those things dip

1566
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 2: dipthongs whatever, But basically every single letter that I see

1567
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 2: in that does five slorer, a root disease that kills

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01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: avocado trees. Anyway, this thing sounds promising. They're going to

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01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 2: try they're sending it out now. They're going to try

1570
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Speaker 2: to get people to plant it in really really cold

1571
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 2: places and see what happens, because that's the business, right

1572
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: if you can plant it all over this country, not

1573
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 2: in the tropical areas and subtropical areas. Then then we

1574
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: can all have avocados. Then you're flooding the market with avocados.

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: You don't worry about paying four dollars in avocado. You're

1576
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 2: gonna be plucking it off your tree anyway. Do you

1577
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 2: know what it's called the harricado named after Harry? That's cool.

1578
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: A thirteen past six It's the.

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1580
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1581
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Speaker 2: Here the Try Fight Top Farrah, Fight Top Farra, Thank You.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen past six, The Rural.

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Speaker 2: Jamie MacKaye hosts of the Countries with Me right now? Hey, Jamie,

1585
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Speaker 2: can I.

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Speaker 12: Hear that You've got to ask Stuart Nash the most

1587
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 12: important question? When is the announcing his candidacy.

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01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,080
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like Stuart su is doing such a

1589
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: fantastic job of kind of teasing us along with this

1590
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 2: and just really kind of, you know, sprooking New Zealand.

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Speaker 5: First.

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Speaker 2: I'm almost I don't really want it to come to

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Speaker 2: an end, do you.

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Speaker 12: Well, I just think him and Shane Jones would be fun.

1595
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 12: As I said to you A couple of weeks ago

1596
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 12: as a one two punch combination.

1597
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,799
Speaker 2: I'm going to take a bet with you, in all seriousness,

1598
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Speaker 2: it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I'll take a bet with you, Heather, you think

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01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 12: it's going to happen.

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Speaker 9: I think he'll stand for New Zealand first.

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01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he won't stand for New Zealand first

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01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: because he's too much of a threat to Winston and Shane,

1604
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 2: because he's actually quite good.

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 12: What's your theory, Well, Winston will eventually die, although with

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01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 12: the saying that for twenty years, Shane's the air apparent.

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01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 9: But yeah, I don't know.

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 12: Maybe he may be a threat to Shane, He's not

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01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 12: a threat to Winston at the stage. So I just

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01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 12: think he's a colorful character for a former labor cabinet minister.

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,200
Speaker 12: He's very centrist, talks a lot of common sense. I'd

1612
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 12: like to see him back. And the other thing about

1613
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 12: him here that he's got a very good background and

1614
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 12: commercial forestrand with carbon farming and all the debates were

1615
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 12: having about climate change and all that sort of stuff,

1616
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 12: having someone around a cabinet table who knows something about

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01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 12: that would be an advantage.

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Speaker 2: Okay, now, tell me what I'd totally agree with you

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,720
Speaker 2: on that. Tell me what you think about Alliance Group

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01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: and what's going on here.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's been Alliance Group's been in a lot of

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01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 12: trouble recently. Poor management's probably part of its downfall, but

1623
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 12: the long awaited deal to recapitalize the debt late and

1624
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,759
Speaker 12: Alliance Group appears to be nearing. There was a story

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 12: in the Irish Times over the weekend that Dawn meets

1626
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 12: a large Irish meat company. He's going to stump up

1627
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:04,360
Speaker 12: two hundred and seventy million dollars for a seventy percent

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01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 12: I repeat that seventy percent steak in Alliance which up

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01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 12: till now or is currently the country's only fully farmer

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 12: owned red meat cooperative. It's the equivalent I guess of Fonterra.

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01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 12: Now Dawn Meats a slightly larger company in turnover and

1632
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 12: volume than the Alliance Group, but would certainly add some

1633
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 12: I guess off to it. But they've just got to

1634
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 12: get this past the shareholders. And what's the use of

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Speaker 12: being a cooperative if you've only got a thirty percent

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01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 12: steak in the company. Remember the other big former cooperative

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01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 12: and it is still a cooperative as Silverfern Farms, which

1638
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 12: has done a fifty to fifty joint venture with Shanghai Mailing.

1639
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 12: It's rescued it from the debtor's court in a lot

1640
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 12: of ways. But even now we're hearing that Silver Fern mit.

1641
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 12: Silverfern Farms might have some some profitability issues as well. So, look,

1642
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 12: the red meat's a tough industry. The red meat industry here,

1643
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 12: there's a tough industry at the moment because while farmers

1644
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 12: are getting record prices, that doesn't follow through for the processes.

1645
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,920
Speaker 12: There's less and less stock due to land use change,

1646
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 12: carbon farming, you name it, whatever's happening, and they're having

1647
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 12: to compete and their margins are being cut. So watch

1648
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,440
Speaker 12: the space. I think we're going to get an announcement

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Speaker 12: on Tuesday about the recapitalization of the Alliance Group.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, okay, Jamie Listener, were starting to get some kind

1651
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: of an idea of what the Trump tariff's the impact

1652
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 2: it's going to have on our agriculture sectors and the

1653
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 2: culture sector, you know, the experts that we're send into

1654
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 2: the US.

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Speaker 12: Well, that was announced last Friday. Obviously some people have

1656
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 12: been doing some number crunching. I better credit Neil Wallace

1657
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 12: from New Zealand Farmers Weekly, who's done some sums on

1658
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 12: this one. The fifteen percent tariffs going to cost the

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Speaker 12: red meat sector and estimated three hundred million dollars wines

1660
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 12: the other big loser one hundred and twelve million. We

1661
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 12: don't know dairy hasn't quite figured it out yet how

1662
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 12: much it's going to cost dairy. But dairy is not

1663
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 12: as dependent on the US as red meat and winer.

1664
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 12: So look, we sent a lot of stuff to the

1665
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 12: US last year, two point two billion of meat, one

1666
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,799
Speaker 12: point two billion a dairy, seven hundred and ninety million

1667
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 12: of wine. They took forty six percent of our beef,

1668
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 12: eighteen percent of our lamb. And the thing is, you know,

1669
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,799
Speaker 12: we've gone from ten to fifteen. The Aussies have stayed

1670
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 12: at ten, as has Argentina. I think it's Argentina and

1671
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 12: that just makes them more competitive getting their meat into

1672
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 12: the US. But they need, they desperately need our grinding

1673
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 12: beef to eat, to produce the hamburgers they eat three

1674
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 12: each per week.

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Speaker 3: Whifter they're fat, hush but true.

1676
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Speaker 2: Jamie, thank you very much. Jamie mckaye, host of the Country,

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01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: Three Hamburgers a week. Heck, I reckon, I'd be lucky

1678
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 2: to eat three hamburgers in the space of three months.

1679
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,120
Speaker 2: That wow. Anyway, Yeah, as Jovi says, no wonder the

1680
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,719
Speaker 2: fat Hey the Gaza situation. Now, the UN has finally

1681
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: released some data and it came out. It came out

1682
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. It basically proves the

1683
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,880
Speaker 2: case that the AID that's going in is being nicked

1684
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 2: before it gets the people. So, yes, there is a

1685
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 2: shortage of AID, but yes there's a shortage of AD

1686
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: because it's getting nicked. Only fourteen percent of the AID

1687
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 2: that goes and actually lands where it's supposed to land.

1688
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 2: Eighty six percent is intercepted either peacefully by hungry people

1689
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 2: or forcefully by armed actors during transit, and Gaza and

1690
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 2: armed actors brackets equals humas. So in the space of

1691
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,719
Speaker 2: mid May through to last weekend, they sent in about

1692
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: thirty thousand AID palettes. Of them, twenty six thousand odd

1693
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 2: were taken en route. Only four thousand, one hundred and

1694
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: eighty two paletts. That's four thousand, one hundred and eighty

1695
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 2: two palettes out of twenty nine, eight hundred and eighty

1696
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: five thousand pallets. Right, so significant amount. Only four thousand

1697
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: odd reached the people they were supposed to reach. There

1698
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:59,759
Speaker 2: you go, there's some truth to that story.

1699
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 3: Twenty two everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

1700
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather two for c Ellen and

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1702
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, some interesting darce has just come out. This has

1703
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 2: been published in The Herald that shows what we're doing

1704
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 2: with our mortgage rates. Looks like if you look at it, basically,

1705
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: this is for the month of June, of all the

1706
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: people locking in their mortgages or changing what's going on

1707
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: with their mortgages. Forty percent was fixed for a rate.

1708
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 2: That's the highest number for one year. Sorry, for a

1709
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 2: one year rate, that's the highest number, So forty percent

1710
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 2: for a rent for a one year rate. Twenty five

1711
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 2: percent of the debt was put on a floating rate BACKCLL.

1712
01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 2: Eleven percent was fixed for two rates, ten percent for

1713
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: eighteen months, eight percent for six months, and five percent

1714
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: for three years. What that tells you, I think, if

1715
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 2: you're looking at that, is that we are all experienced

1716
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 2: well well, the forty percent who fixed for a year

1717
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: are expecting rates to come down further over the next year,

1718
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: and they want to wait. They yet, we know we're

1719
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 2: getting near the bottom, but we're not near the bottom yet.

1720
01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 2: Smart from you shows we're pretty good with our money

1721
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to the old home loan, doesn't it?

1722
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 2: Twenty five past six, Heather do for se Ala, Yes,

1723
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:05,400
Speaker 2: I'm Showbuz news for you.

1724
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 8: Can here tell you out what they're purprised.

1725
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: Are now, Sarah, I've never seen anything like this.

1726
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 2: There is a new movie out this week, but I

1727
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 2: think you probably don't want to spend put your money

1728
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 2: on your mortgage. Don't put your money on this movie.

1729
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,840
Speaker 2: It's called Wold of the War of the World's Right.

1730
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 2: It's the modern day reboot of the Tom Cruise Steven

1731
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,479
Speaker 2: Spielberg film from two thousand and five. The new version

1732
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 2: co stars Ice Cube and Eva Longoria. The Rotten Tomato

1733
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: review score released today and the movie has get this

1734
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 2: one hundred percent negative reviews. It matches up quite nicely

1735
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: actually with the film's tagline, which is that it is

1736
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 2: worse than you think, almost like they're trying to pre

1737
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: warn you about their own film. Movie reviewer Dan Morrell

1738
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 2: had this to say, I.

1739
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Speaker 21: Can comfortably say that this war of the World's is

1740
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 21: one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

1741
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,920
Speaker 2: The film, Now, this is the thing that makes it

1742
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 2: probably one of the worst films he's ever seen, That

1743
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: it's part of a recalled screen life. Now, this is

1744
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: when you film your entire movie as a recording of

1745
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 2: a computer screen. So instead of two actors in a room,

1746
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 2: it's ice Cube having a FaceTime call while he's sending

1747
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: an email, which does sound like a horror movie, but

1748
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 2: in a different sense of the word. But I so

1749
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 2: I asked it because I that sounds too static and

1750
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: boring for me to possibly believe it was true. So

1751
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 2: I asked, answer, if it's true, and answer, yes, it's true.

1752
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: He's watched a movie like this.

1753
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 21: Yeah, I watched a movie called Unfriended, which is, by

1754
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 21: no stretch of the imagination a good film. But it's

1755
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,200
Speaker 21: a few years old. But you'd have they were on

1756
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 21: a group's skype call for most of the movie, right,

1757
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 21: So you've got all these little screens with each of

1758
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,320
Speaker 21: the characters on them, and then one of them will

1759
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 21: also open up a chat window and be chatting to

1760
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,760
Speaker 21: the other ones, so they'll be saying something publicly, but

1761
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,320
Speaker 21: also saying something privately to somebody else. So it can,

1762
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 21: you know, work if you're into that sort of thing.

1763
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're drunk or high. Maybe it could be.

1764
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 21: A fun like little you know, challenge to look. Once

1765
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 21: they make a really really good movie like that, I'll

1766
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 21: go to back for it. But they haven't come here.

1767
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 2: Are they doing this because it's cheap?

1768
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 21: Very probably?

1769
01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: Yeah? Blown all the money on getting ice Cube? Yeah,

1770
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,960
Speaker 2: I'm ahead, they wouldn't have either, and then they were like,

1771
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: oh jeez, we actually don't have any money for moving cameras,

1772
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 2: so we're just going to film the screen here.

1773
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1774
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: Anyway, Paul Bloxhom's with us next on the unemployment number

1775
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: out tomorrow.

1776
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 3: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1777
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:27,520
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Heather Duplicyllen and it MAS for Trusted.

1778
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 3: Home Insurance Solutions News talks 'd be.

1779
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 2: Because you've told me Indebrady's going to do the UK

1780
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 2: for us in about ten minutes time. Right now, it's

1781
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: twenty five away from seven and Paul Blocks of Agspecies

1782
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 2: chief economist is with us evening.

1783
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 3: Paul get eight, what are.

1784
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: You picking for our unemployment number tomorrow?

1785
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 19: Well, our forecast is a little bit more optimistic than

1786
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 19: the market, where forecasting that it might track sideways and

1787
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 19: sort of stay roughly the same level that it was

1788
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 19: at the last print, so just over five percent five

1789
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 19: point one. We've got in mind that you might see

1790
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,680
Speaker 19: a little bit of positive employment growth and we'll just

1791
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 19: see what the print manages to deliver.

1792
01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 2: Why why are you more positive than others? Do you

1793
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: think there's labourhooding going on? Or are you accounting for

1794
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 2: the fact that a lot of people are just when

1795
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 2: they lose their jobs here heading off to Australia.

1796
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 19: I think that actually the economy is in a modest

1797
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 19: up swing. We saw it in the first quarter GDP print,

1798
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 19: we saw it in the fourth quarter print from last year.

1799
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 19: I think there are some forces at work that are

1800
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 19: supporting the economy. You know, dairy prices have risen to

1801
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 19: very high levels. You've got interest rates that have come down.

1802
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:44,440
Speaker 19: It's not coming through all of the timely activity indicators

1803
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 19: as yet, but we're of the view that it will.

1804
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 19: And the labor market tends to lag everything. I mean,

1805
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 19: that's the thing to really keep in mind, that the

1806
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 19: labor market's one of the last things to actually see

1807
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 19: any of that sort of momentum, so you see an

1808
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 19: improvement and a sentiment to a degree, and then it

1809
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 19: feeds through to a bit more activity and then the

1810
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 19: hiring starts. So we're not looking for a strong result,

1811
01:24:04,160 --> 01:24:06,599
Speaker 19: but we're looking for some sense that the labor markets

1812
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 19: starting to find some stability.

1813
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,640
Speaker 2: There is a bit of chat, renewed chat at the

1814
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: moment about how the economy is faring, and people are

1815
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 2: getting pretty grouchy with the government because we're eighteen months

1816
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 2: into our electoral term and we thought things would be

1817
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: a little bit better. How do you see things kind

1818
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: of playing out this time next year when we're at

1819
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: election time.

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Speaker 19: As I said, and we've talked about this before on

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01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 19: this program, that you know, we sit and look at

1822
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 19: the big picture factors and say, actually, there are some

1823
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 19: things out there, some big forces at work that should

1824
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,559
Speaker 19: be lifting the New Zealand economy. And the primary ones

1825
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 19: are that commodity prices are at high levels, dairy prices

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01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 19: are at higher levels. That's a really positive terms of

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01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 19: trade shock that's been delivered to New Zealand that you've

1828
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 19: got a trade surplus at the moment. The agricultural sector

1829
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 19: is doing quite well. Is really the short of it.

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01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 19: That tends to eventually feed through to activity in the

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01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,679
Speaker 19: cities as well in terms of a bit more spending.

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01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 19: It just takes a bit of time for to feed through.

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01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 19: And then the other big force that's going to be

1834
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,479
Speaker 19: helpful is that interest rates have already come down by

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01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 19: two hundred and twenty five bases points, and I think

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01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 19: as people start to realize that there's not that perhaps

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01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 19: not that much more easy to come through, they'll start

1838
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 19: to roll off fixed their five year fixed rate mortgages

1839
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,759
Speaker 19: and then start to choose to do a bit more spending.

1840
01:25:17,800 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 19: And so we've got both those forces sort of in

1841
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 19: mind when we're thinking that growth is actually going to

1842
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 19: have a bit of positive momentum running into the second

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01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:26,640
Speaker 19: half and into next year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 2: So at the moment, obviously the consumers are not feeling great.

1846
01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 2: There are worries about inflation expectations. You know, the expectation

1847
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:35,560
Speaker 2: is it will take up again. Do you think that

1848
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: will just dissipate as we start to feel att bit

1849
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 2: better about things.

1850
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 19: I think the primary driver of the lifted inflation has

1851
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 19: been things that are sort of short term factors. Food

1852
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 19: prices have risen a bit, and I think you've seen

1853
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 19: that come through as you're describing into inflation expectation surveys.

1854
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 19: But I think the other force at work on the

1855
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 19: inflation front is going to be a trade diversion. So

1856
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 19: you know, the global trade developments are going to lead

1857
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 19: we think least to China leading needing to export a

1858
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 19: lot more of its manufactured goods to other markets that

1859
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 19: aren't the US. And one of the one of the

1860
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 19: features is going to be that we're going to see

1861
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 19: more manufactured goods showing up in Australia and New Zealand.

1862
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 19: And we think that's going to be something that puts

1863
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 19: downward pressure on inflation in the coming quarters, so over

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01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 19: the coming period, and so that should sort of start

1865
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 19: to dissipate some of the inflation pressures a bit and

1866
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:26,679
Speaker 19: give people a bit more spending power.

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: So do you think come this time next year we

1868
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 2: are feeling better off, like materially better off enough to

1869
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:34,760
Speaker 2: want to re elect the slot.

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Speaker 19: We should be The New Zealand economy should be in

1871
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 19: an upswing. That's what we think. And I think, you know,

1872
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 19: the other way to square it away would be if

1873
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 19: you don't get quite as much of an upswing and

1874
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 19: the inflation numbers do start to come down, well, then

1875
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 19: the RBNZ may very well have more scope to lower

1876
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 19: interest rates for them. I mean, we've only got one

1877
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 19: more cut in for the RBNZ in our central case,

1878
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 19: but if it turns out the economy is weaker, they've

1879
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 19: got more scope to low to lower things, to lower rates.

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01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 19: I think you know that's going to be Those are

1881
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 19: going to be the two forces at least we've got

1882
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 19: that we've got in mind, will lift the economy running

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 19: into next year.

1884
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, were you surprised to see the fifteen percent tariff

1885
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: slept on New Zealand.

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01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 19: I think we were all watching and waiting to see

1887
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 19: what the Trump administration was going to deliver. It's very

1888
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 19: difficult to pick what the numbers are going to be

1889
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 19: out of the administration. But I guess it is quite

1890
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 19: interesting that fifteen percent. New Zealand got a fifteen percent,

1891
01:27:27,160 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 19: Australia ended up with a ten percent, and so that's

1892
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,879
Speaker 19: that's been an interesting feature, but it was very difficult

1893
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 19: to predict what those numbers were going to be. Like,

1894
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,200
Speaker 19: I mean, the key feature we're pointing out is both

1895
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 19: countries have actually got you know, comparatively low tariffs into

1896
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 19: the US, and both countries have a fairly limited exposure

1897
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 19: in terms of their direct sales into the US market anyway.

1898
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,439
Speaker 19: So we are countries that are mostly tied to the

1899
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:56,679
Speaker 19: growth story in Asia, and what happens in China matters

1900
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 19: more than you know, what happens in the US in

1901
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 19: terms of the growth story for Australia and for New Zealand,

1902
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 19: and China's got more scope to pull levers and they

1903
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 19: are delivering more incremental support for their growth. So that

1904
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,719
Speaker 19: should mean that, you know, I think the biggest effect

1905
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 19: on Australia and New Zealand is actually going to be

1906
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 19: the disinflationary impulse, the inflation coming down because we get

1907
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 19: lots of cheap manufactured goods showing up in our markets

1908
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 19: in over the coming period.

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01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: Not half bad, Hey, Paul, as always really appreciate talking

1910
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 2: to you.

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01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 9: Thank you.

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01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 2: Paul Bloxham, agspec's chief economist. Nineteen away from seven.

1913
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 3: Heather do p cllen Heather, I have a pet.

1914
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,320
Speaker 2: Peeve, as it turns out, a pet peeve of mine too.

1915
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: Hither I have a pet peeve. I'm a drinker of

1916
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: alcohol free beer. Every time I go to the supermarket.

1917
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 2: Brackets walworths I must be approved. I'm seventy four. I

1918
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 2: have challenged them. I've been in touch with head office.

1919
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 2: But their explanation is it's beer. Obviously they can't change

1920
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: their software. Furthermore, anyone of any age can go and

1921
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 2: buy Vanilla Essence, which is brackets forty percent alcohol. Would

1922
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 2: love for you to follow up, mate, this is do

1923
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: you know what is? I get bothered by this every

1924
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: single time. So if you go and buy something like

1925
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,599
Speaker 2: alcohol free Join or something, you get exactly the same

1926
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 2: treatment they get. Ah, ye have ID and you're like,

1927
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:07,240
Speaker 2: what the hell do you need ID for? I ain't

1928
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 2: gonna get drunk off. This is gonna do nothing to me.

1929
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 2: I could just drink water, it'll be the same. I

1930
01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 2: could drink a Coca Cola and with the same it's

1931
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 2: alcohol free you numpty. But for some reason, and is

1932
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 2: this not an example of how stupid humans can be?

1933
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Speaker 2: Humans can be stupid, can't they? There's no alcohol in it?

1934
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 2: What are you doing? But because it's in that bracket

1935
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 2: and it might be a gateway drug because you might

1936
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 2: get into your alcohol free beer and then you might

1937
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,240
Speaker 2: want to drink your real beer. Let's see gateway drug.

1938
01:29:35,320 --> 01:29:37,080
Speaker 2: I just can't get around it. I just can't get

1939
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 2: around how stupid people are. And honestly, if you're one

1940
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: of the people, don't even start. Don't even text me.

1941
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Don't text me about this, because if you're one of

1942
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 2: the people who wants to make an argument for this,

1943
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,280
Speaker 2: all I'm gonna do is I'm gonna put. I'm gonna put.

1944
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna retype your name into the system here and

1945
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess it's Mareene texting you here that I'm

1946
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: gonna go Maurene brackets stupid because there's no justification for

1947
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 2: this anyway, Listen on to some happier news. You know

1948
01:29:59,200 --> 01:30:02,679
Speaker 2: how we always free out about Test cricket and we go, oh, geez,

1949
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 2: the days of Test cricketers. It's just that you know

1950
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:09,439
Speaker 2: they're numbered. No one's going to watch the five day

1951
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: format when they can just watch a T twenty get

1952
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 2: smashed around the park four hours and be happy with

1953
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 2: it worth Apparently there's a piece in The Economist about this.

1954
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 2: We have been talking about the death of Test cricket

1955
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,160
Speaker 2: since the birth of Test cricket. You've always been talking

1956
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: about it. But how about this in some respects is

1957
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 2: the economists, the five day format is better than ever. Actually,

1958
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: at the moment many players are adopting the aggressive batting

1959
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: that they use in T twenty, which improves the spectacle.

1960
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Most still consider tests the pinnacle of cricket, producing feats

1961
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: of endurance that T twenty cannot. Even youngsters who watch

1962
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,200
Speaker 2: T twenty today may gravitate towards the longer version in time,

1963
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 2: just as those who listen to pop music can come

1964
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 2: to enjoy opera in later life. Here here seventeen away

1965
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:50,600
Speaker 2: from seven, approaching.

1966
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 3: The numbers and getting the results.

1967
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: It's Heather Duplice Ellen with the Business Hour and maths

1968
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 1: for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions, News Talks.

1969
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 2: That be hither we bought alcohol free bea at New

1970
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,240
Speaker 2: World and they told us it wasn't a good look

1971
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 2: if youngsters were buying BA from them. Thank you, su

1972
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: fourteen s stupid fourteen away from seven. Indo Brady, UK

1973
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 2: correspondent with US evening Inda.

1974
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Speaker 5: Hello, Heather, great to speak to you again.

1975
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,240
Speaker 2: Do you agree with Nigel Farage that the cops need

1976
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: to reveal the immigration status that has been charged with rape?

1977
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 5: No, I don't actually look. The rules are the rules

1978
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 5: and the law is the law, and it's been the

1979
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 5: same here for over a century. If someone is charged

1980
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 5: with an offense, the media are told, they're given the name,

1981
01:31:33,640 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 5: they're given the age, and they're given the address, and

1982
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,960
Speaker 5: they're given what they're charged with. That has been British

1983
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 5: court practice for decades upon decades. Now what is happening here.

1984
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 5: We've reached the situation where twenty five thousand people have

1985
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 5: come across in dinghies from France so far this year,

1986
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:57,120
Speaker 5: twenty five thousand. Now they are mostly young men aged

1987
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 5: eighteen to thirty five, young men of working aid, which

1988
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 5: that is the majority of the twenty five thousand. What

1989
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 5: we've seen happen in the last couple of months there

1990
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 5: has been a sex assault sexual assault on a young

1991
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 5: girl in Epping in Essex, and then last month there

1992
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 5: was the alleged rape of a twelve year old girl

1993
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 5: in a town called Nuneaton in Warwickshire. Two men have

1994
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:23,320
Speaker 5: been charged in connection with that. Now it transpires that

1995
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,600
Speaker 5: all of these men being charged with those offenses have

1996
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 5: come across to the UK. In these dinghies, the anger

1997
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:36,439
Speaker 5: is palpable. People are extremely, extremely concerned for their safety

1998
01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 5: of their children and their families. Forage has waded in

1999
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,760
Speaker 5: and says from now on police should be more transparent

2000
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 5: and if these illegal asylum seekers coming to the UK

2001
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 5: are being charged with sexual offenses against children, their immigration

2002
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:54,200
Speaker 5: status should be released to the media. It's quite a

2003
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 5: fibrile atmosphere here. I must say.

2004
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Okay, now you say the police never do this, but

2005
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,080
Speaker 2: do you remember there was the chep in May who

2006
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:03,719
Speaker 2: drove his car into the crowd and the UK police

2007
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 2: identified him as white.

2008
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 5: Yes, So they did that for fear that there would

2009
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 5: be riots if someone discovered that he wasn't white. Or

2010
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,679
Speaker 5: social media and we've had these people go on social media,

2011
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 5: like the Southport attacks last year when those little girls

2012
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 5: were stabbed to death, a tragic, terrible thing. People go

2013
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 5: on social media, make all sorts of claims and it

2014
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:29,599
Speaker 5: goes viral. So I think the police. Yes, you're correct.

2015
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 5: Police came out very quickly and said that this was

2016
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 5: a white male from the local vicinity.

2017
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 2: Yes, but so for that reason, because they've done that,

2018
01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: Nigel Farage has now got a case, isn't he in

2019
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 2: which he says you can. He could argue you do

2020
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 2: it one time, you should do it all the time

2021
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 2: because they've broken their own convention.

2022
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, but look, join the dots up here, Heather, And

2023
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,519
Speaker 5: it's not a massive leap to see that. If police

2024
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 5: come out and say, oh, thirty two year old man

2025
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:55,559
Speaker 5: charged with the alleged rape of a twelve year old girl,

2026
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 5: and by the way, he came here last week on

2027
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 5: a dinghy from France, you can see what's going to happen.

2028
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 5: You know, asylum hotels were already seeing protest planned for

2029
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:07,040
Speaker 5: this weekend outside these hotels. Starmer needs to get a

2030
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,400
Speaker 5: handle on this. Look, who better than a lawyer, but

2031
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 5: he I'm just pointing this out. This is a ticking

2032
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 5: time bomb. People are very very angry.

2033
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 2: I totally agree with you in the now. What does

2034
01:34:18,840 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 2: he need to do?

2035
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 5: Well, we need to stop these dinghies coming across from France.

2036
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 5: I mean, out of all the political rhetoric. I heard

2037
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,640
Speaker 5: a vox pop from a man in the street the

2038
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 5: other day on the news and this was just a

2039
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 5: random guy in Essex and he said, don't tell me

2040
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 5: that we could defeat Nazi Germany and we can't stop dinghies.

2041
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 4: Coming across from France.

2042
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I was.

2043
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 5: Like, wow, you know, if you ever want to put

2044
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,280
Speaker 5: a situation in one sentence. He has absolutely got a

2045
01:34:48,360 --> 01:34:50,919
Speaker 5: point these dinghies. The French need to make it illegal

2046
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 5: for anyone to be using a dinghy on that nine

2047
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 5: kilometer stretch of beach. And then they need to say, okay,

2048
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 5: let's have British police officers here pro all that beach

2049
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 5: and each officer has a pen knife and as soon

2050
01:35:02,920 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 5: as you see a dingy, pop the dingy, and that

2051
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 5: these these gangs that are stealing so much money and

2052
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 5: living amongst us in this country. It is outrageous.

2053
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 2: Yea Hey, this book about Prince Andrew is fascinating because

2054
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 2: it's now claiming that Jeffrey Epstein sold information about him

2055
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 2: to the Mossad and guys like that, is there any

2056
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 2: truth to us?

2057
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 5: Well, look, Andrew hasn't commented, and he won't comment because

2058
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 5: he doesn't leave the house anymore. As far as my

2059
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 5: information is, he goes horse riding in the grounds of

2060
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 5: Windsor Grade Park three days a.

2061
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:34,640
Speaker 2: Week and that is it.

2062
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 5: He sees his children, he sees his ex wife who

2063
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 5: he still has live with, live with, and that is it.

2064
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 5: It would not surprise me. But the question I would

2065
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 5: have is what information was Jeffrey Epstein's selling intelligence agencies

2066
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 5: like Mossad and like Colonel Gie Daffi's libbyan secret service

2067
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:57,240
Speaker 5: about his friend. Apparently he viewed Andrew as a useful

2068
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 5: idiot who opened a lot of doors. Now we know

2069
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,760
Speaker 5: the allegations against Andrew, we know the extent of the

2070
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:07,200
Speaker 5: friendship with Epstein. I think we know a percentage of

2071
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,439
Speaker 5: the extent of the friendship with Epstein. But what information

2072
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:14,960
Speaker 5: would you have been selling to hostile foreign intelligence services

2073
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,960
Speaker 5: who certainly don't have the UK's best interests at heart.

2074
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:20,920
Speaker 5: I think when we eventually hear the whole scope of

2075
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 5: what went on, I think jaws will drop.

2076
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,240
Speaker 2: Oh Indo, what a tease, Thank you so much into Brady,

2077
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 2: UK Correspondent. Nine away from seven.

2078
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: It's the Heather Too per Se Alan Drive Full Show

2079
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:35,759
Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio powered by newstalg Zibby.

2080
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: It sicks away from seven. Gosh, I'm having to do

2081
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 2: some epic maths at the moment, just you know, like

2082
01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 2: seven minus zero zero minus five four. I would make

2083
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 2: you on that one yea another geez. I wish I

2084
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 2: had an AI and I could just heat it and

2085
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 2: it would just say to me, it's sucks away from seven.

2086
01:36:52,040 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: It sicks away from seven. That'd be awesome. Anyway, Listen,

2087
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 2: I find this fascinating. I read a book called Sapiens recently.

2088
01:36:59,560 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 2: A hot friend of mine gave it to me because

2089
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,600
Speaker 2: she likes to try to make me sound smarter than

2090
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 2: I actually am by giving me good things to read,

2091
01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:07,040
Speaker 2: and then I sound like I know what I'm talking about.

2092
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 2: So thank you to Sarah for that. Anyway, So she

2093
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 2: brought me this book. But the thing that gripped me

2094
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 2: about it was I didn't realize this. Did you realize this?

2095
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 2: You've probably got some Neanderthal in you. I always thought

2096
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: the Neanderthal came first and then we came and like

2097
01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: we descended from them. But that's not at all the cakes.

2098
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 2: They're completely different from a different species. So it's a

2099
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,840
Speaker 2: little bit like so where the Sapiens the humans, and

2100
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 2: then we had a bit of it. There was a

2101
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,760
Speaker 2: bit of bonking going on with the Neanderthals, and most

2102
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:36,320
Speaker 2: of us have got varying degrees of Neanderthal in us.

2103
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,400
Speaker 2: It's a little bit like like a horse having a

2104
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: bit of a bonk with a zebra, do you know

2105
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, it's not supposed to happen. It's

2106
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:47,560
Speaker 2: it's like cross species breeding. It's not okay, and it

2107
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 2: really up ends life to know that you've got a

2108
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: bit of like caveman in you. Anyhow, scientists have discovered

2109
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 2: why Homo sapiens ourselves survived when the Neanderthals and the

2110
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 2: other ones who were around at the same time, the

2111
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: Denisovans didn't because yeah, oh, by the way, we were

2112
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 2: all around at the same time. It was not like

2113
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 2: the Neanderthals were the cave men, and then afterwards we came.

2114
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 2: We were all alive at the same time, three different species,

2115
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 2: a bunch of others as well. But why is it

2116
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: that we're the ones that survived and not the others?

2117
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,959
Speaker 2: They reckon it was a tiny change in our brain chemistry.

2118
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,759
Speaker 2: We've got a gene that they don't have. They've published

2119
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 2: the study and the proceedings of the National Academy of

2120
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 2: Sciences yesterday. They took the gene that we've got, They

2121
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 2: mucked around with the bit, introduced it to mice, and

2122
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 2: when they did, the mice were more adept at seeking water.

2123
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 3: Now they're not.

2124
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:32,800
Speaker 2: They say, I mean, you could probably fill in the

2125
01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 2: blanks there, but they are saying they're not entirely sure

2126
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 2: what the meaning of this is, but they think it

2127
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 2: may go some way to explaining why the other lots

2128
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 2: like the Neanderthals never really got to be in great,

2129
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 2: great big populations, and why we did, why we're still

2130
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 2: here ruling the planet and making all someome cities and

2131
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,840
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So anyway, there you go, I'll bring

2132
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 2: you more updates on the War of the Species. Fascinating

2133
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:54,599
Speaker 2: their way.

2134
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,439
Speaker 21: AT's go Danger High Voltage by Electric six to play

2135
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 21: us out tonight. Yes, they have announced this is their

2136
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:02,679
Speaker 21: third New Zealand tour in three years, so they clearly

2137
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 21: like it down here. They're going to be playing in

2138
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:08,080
Speaker 21: Auckland and Wellington in twenty twenty six. They'll be playing

2139
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 21: at San fran and Wellington on the twenty sixth of

2140
01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 21: the March next year, and then again at the Tuning

2141
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 21: Fork in Auckland on the twenty seventh of March.

2142
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 2: So I sent this to the girls in the concert club,

2143
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:19,280
Speaker 2: the mid three middle aged birds who go out for

2144
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:20,599
Speaker 2: a bit of a show and a bit of a dinner,

2145
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:22,240
Speaker 2: and I said, shall we go to this? I was

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Speaker 2: the only one who knew who they were, and one

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Speaker 2: of my friends came back to me. I sent them

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Speaker 2: this song. One of my friends came back to me

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Speaker 2: and said they sound like an adult version of the Wiggles.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I do.

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Speaker 21: I've never really understood exactly what's going on with the song,

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Speaker 21: like everything is going old with the song. It's just everything.

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Speaker 2: Also their other song gay Bar, I don't know what's

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Speaker 2: going on with that. Let's go listen to this.

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Speaker 4: Let this go?

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 21: The thing I'm looking at says they're a fusion of

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Speaker 21: drop disco metal and New Waven punk so five Johns

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Speaker 21: Aparently it's a good.

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Speaker 2: Time though, Ay, I think you're going to go. We

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Speaker 2: don't want to go to e F searing because that's

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Speaker 2: boring that we're going to this. See tomorrow.

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