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Speaker 1: Digging through the spin spence to find the real story story.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge on Heather duples Ellen drive with One

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected and news talks.

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Speaker 3: They'd be good afternoon. It is seven after four. I'm

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Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge. Great to be with you this afternoon. Heather

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Speaker 3: is back with you on Monday. So my final show

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Speaker 3: with you this afternoon. Let's make it a good one

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Speaker 3: for a Friday. The government today redefining the word veteran.

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Speaker 3: Will that keep the military happy? We'll ask that question

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Speaker 3: after five. Grant Dalton on Peter Berling. Did you know

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Speaker 3: Grant Dalton pulled the offer to Peter Berling. We speak

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Speaker 3: to Grant Dolton after five two. We're live to the US,

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Speaker 3: the UK and Hong Kong. Matt Brown and Darcy are

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Speaker 3: on the sports huddle this afternoon. Bread, good to be

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Speaker 3: with you, and happy birthday. Winston Peters on his eightieth birthday.

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Speaker 3: He won't be listening to this. He's jetting around the

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Speaker 3: Pacific as we speak, representing his country, keeping us close

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Speaker 3: to our friends in the region is China, Circles and

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Speaker 3: America One. He's visited more than forty countries since Luxon

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Speaker 3: took office. The stamina of this man, the discipline, the confidence,

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Speaker 3: the work ethic, all things to be admired. And what

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Speaker 3: a contrasted picture he paints in Parliament, one side of

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Speaker 3: the house draped in performative costumes, wearing badges and head

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Speaker 3: by the way, learn the standing orders, which Winston's mastered

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Speaker 3: better place. You know, the essence of democracy. Winston is

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Speaker 3: you may not like, but who's character modern society cannot

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Speaker 3: In fact, I had a teacher at Yuni who used

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Speaker 3: He loves a bit of drama, he loves a fight,

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Speaker 3: The new generation of politicians should put their phones down,

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Speaker 3: of Winston's diary Winston Your Birthday, Ryan Bridge nine. After

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper. See Allan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen after four News TALKSB. So Peter Berling

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Speaker 3: Brilliant Jason, great to have you on. Has always have

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Speaker 3: a fantastic weekend Jason Pine, host of Weekend Sport here

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Speaker 1: Putting the challenging questions to the people. At the heart

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Speaker 3: It is twenty five away from five news talks the'd

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Speaker 3: in TEAMU and Sheene products cheap ones even cheaper than

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Speaker 3: Finally, this afternoon, and the things I didn't write, an

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Speaker 3: US Now, Hi, Dan USA, Assay, you guys are just

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Speaker 22: so that's below the cloud ceiling. So nobody right now

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Speaker 22: exactly knows what happened, but it's just, you know, another

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Speaker 22: tragic air accident. We've seen quite a few of those

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Speaker 22: here in the US in the last few months.

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Speaker 3: Who's this athlete going to get a billion dollar contract?

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Speaker 22: And that is the billion dollar question.

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Speaker 14: We do not know.

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Speaker 22: Is there a ceiling when it comes to the amount

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Speaker 22: that a baseball player or a rugby player or a

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Speaker 22: soccer player can and should make. There was a Los

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Speaker 22: Angeles Dodger baseball player that just signed two seasons ago

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Speaker 22: for a ten year, seven hundred million dollar agreement. There

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Speaker 22: was another one that got about seven hundred and sixty

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Speaker 22: five million with the New York Mets this past winter.

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Speaker 22: And so the former general manager of the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 22: over here he is projecting that the one billion dollar

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Speaker 22: threshold could be crossed in just a few years, by

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Speaker 22: twenty thirty. Now, we don't know where in the world.

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Speaker 22: Is it going to be a football player or a

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Speaker 22: soccer player? Well, I don't think it'll be a rugby player.

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Speaker 22: It could be a basketball player. But the question is

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Speaker 22: if that player does cross that threshold, and it will

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Speaker 22: be when I mean, I mean who pays for these contracts?

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Speaker 22: I mean, obviously the teams do, but it gets passed

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Speaker 22: on to the fans, doesn't it ticket prices and broadcast

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Speaker 22: rights and parking and merchandise. So how much are fans

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Speaker 22: willing to pay? And I'm wondering, you know, as a fan,

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Speaker 22: if these paychecks turn off anyone, or if they say,

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Speaker 22: you know what, hey, we don't care as long as

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Speaker 22: our team's winning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well exactly, And if you're winning, then they're worth

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Speaker 3: the money, right Dan, Thank you for that, Dan Mitchison.

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Speaker 3: Our US correspondent. Time is eighteen away from five. Barry

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Speaker 3: Sope here with us next. Lots of texts coming in

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Speaker 3: from people who love Timu and love Sheen, and we're

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Speaker 3: about to get apparently get flooded with goods from Timu

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Speaker 3: and Jean from China that will be half the price

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Speaker 3: of the very affordable price they already come at. This

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Speaker 3: one from Sandra Ryan. Most things I've had from Timu

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Speaker 3: have been fabulous, especially pottery tools and a douvet and

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Speaker 3: a blanket. The only thing I did not like was

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Speaker 3: the pure copper wire wool to burn onto my pots.

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Speaker 3: The pure copper wool was actually plastic. And everyone who

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Speaker 3: says that no matter whether people say they like it

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Speaker 3: or they don't like it, if you complain, apparently it's

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Speaker 3: just an instant refund. They don't even ask questions. So

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Speaker 3: do we just go on there, buy a bunch of stuff, complain,

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Speaker 3: pay for nothing. Let's give it a go. Seventeen away

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Speaker 3: from five News Talks, I'd be.

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Speaker 1: Polity with centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Call it to five on News Talks. There'd be Barry Soaper,

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Speaker 3: senior political correspondent.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 3: It's our last chat this week. There, I've enjoyed. I've

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Speaker 3: been very much enjoyed working with you again.

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Speaker 18: Thank you very much. And we've worked together over the

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Speaker 18: years many times we have.

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Speaker 3: Now let's get into it lux and defending his absence

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Speaker 3: from part I don't think he should have been there

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Speaker 3: for that reading of the Treaty Bill.

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Speaker 18: In the slightest it had made his position quite clear.

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Speaker 18: What would he have to say during that debate, I

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Speaker 18: mean really nothing. He wouldn't have wouldn't have added anything

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Speaker 18: to it. I think he did the right thing while

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Speaker 18: he he did what normally prime ministers do on Thursdays.

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Speaker 18: They're never at Parliament and it's very rare, indeed that

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Speaker 18: you'd get a prime minister to speak during a piece

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Speaker 18: of legislation at that particular stage in the House anyway,

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Speaker 18: but it was interesting. Winston Peters, who's in Tongua today said,

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Speaker 18: and I quote I'll quote this because the audio quality

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Speaker 18: we got was never that good. He said, we should

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Speaker 18: be patient to see what settles here. Wait till the

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Speaker 18: dust settles. We don't know where this thing is going.

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Speaker 18: It's talking about tariffs, but let us find out before

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Speaker 18: we make any further comment or make any unnecessary comment

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Speaker 18: that may annoy somebody. While he's clearly referring to Trump there,

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Speaker 18: and we know yesterday he was Luckson wasn't in the house.

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Speaker 18: Certainly the advice that was offered by Winston, who seemed

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Speaker 18: to say he's being premature. This is Luxon doing what

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Speaker 18: he did yesterday. He was asked why he wasn't today

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Speaker 18: he was why he wasn't fronting up in Parliament yesterday

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Speaker 18: to speak to the Final Treaty Settlement's Bill. He lucks

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Speaker 18: And says, essentially he.

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Speaker 2: Was too busy.

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Speaker 23: Over the course of yesterday, I was doing three things really.

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Speaker 23: One was reaching out to key bilateral partners for New

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Speaker 23: Zealander to say, what more could we be doing together

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Speaker 23: in a will where we have a like minded approach

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Speaker 23: to trade? Why don't what more can we be doing

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Speaker 23: to turn this up our second leader to sort of

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Speaker 23: understand how they have been interpreting the events of the

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Speaker 23: last week and what that means for them and their economies.

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Speaker 23: And then thirdly making the case that you know, we

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Speaker 23: should be reaffirming the principles of free trade together. So

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Speaker 23: whether that's in an ICM block, whether it's in a

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Speaker 23: CPTPP block. I also spoke to the President of the

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Speaker 23: European Union last night and our conversation was, you know,

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Speaker 23: if you think about the twenty seven countries in the EU,

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Speaker 23: if you think about the CPTPP countries, how do we

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Speaker 23: not introduce new impediments to trade moving around the world.

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Speaker 23: We will continue to work constructively with the US. The

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Speaker 23: US is obviously thirteen percent of global trade, but there

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Speaker 23: are also other trading blocks that actually just you know,

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Speaker 23: are like minded, and we'll continue to keep working hard there.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and I think you did exactly the right thing.

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Speaker 18: And let's hope the talks that he did have come

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Speaker 18: to some sort of ruis.

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Speaker 3: Because you want to show leadership at a time like this,

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Speaker 3: but you can't be the leader that bashes Trump. So

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Speaker 3: you go for the positive, which is, let's talk up

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Speaker 3: the spouse to trade trade. Let's talk rule based trade,

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Speaker 3: all right, even if Winston doesn't like him doing it. Now,

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Speaker 3: Winston certainly wouldn't be liking this phil Goff having another crack.

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Speaker 18: Well, you know, he you can imagine Phil Goff because

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Speaker 18: he's he's a man that has a lot of convictions

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Speaker 18: and sitting as a diplomat in London when Trump is

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Speaker 18: doing what he's doing, and having to keep mum about

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Speaker 18: it must have been hard. While he opened up. He's

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Speaker 18: at Auckland University last night and he opened up. He

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Speaker 18: said that now his freedom, new found freedom to denounce Trump,

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Speaker 18: has been a great thing. He feels free. He said

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Speaker 18: it was obvious to him that Trump doesn't understand history,

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Speaker 18: and that's what that question that the Chatham House was

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Speaker 18: all about. Otherwise he wouldn't have embarked on a pathway

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Speaker 18: of appeasement to putin knowing the precedent for that. In Europe, Interestingly,

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Speaker 18: the Ukrainian thing has really sort of gone right into

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Speaker 18: the background now, Oh hasn't it. I mean Russia isn't

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Speaker 18: getting any trade tariffs against it, and the talks who

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Speaker 18: knows where they are. The Russians are still bombing.

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Speaker 3: The Ukraine absolutely. Now Winston Peters turns the ripe old

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Speaker 3: age of eighty today.

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Speaker 18: It's incredible, isn't it. Look it got me thinking about

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Speaker 18: all Winston. I remember the first time I met him.

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Speaker 18: And I've been in dare I say it in Parliament

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Speaker 18: longer than Winston has been, but I met him in

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Speaker 18: nineteen eighty one. He was introduced to me at a

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Speaker 18: National Party conference Dunedin by Don McKinnon, and Winston immediately

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Speaker 18: started with an argument when he met me. He accused

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Speaker 18: me of badgering his predecessor and driving him to an

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Speaker 18: early grave. You remember it was Keith Allen who was

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Speaker 18: known for the Ministry of silly Walks when he was

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Speaker 18: coming home hypoglycemic from Balamese one night after parliament. So

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Speaker 18: we got over that. But in the MMP election there

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Speaker 18: was one other story that I reminded him south of that.

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Speaker 18: After the nineteen ninety six election, just prior to it,

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Speaker 18: I was having a drink with Winston out on the

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Speaker 18: campaign trail and Winston said, as I was leaving, we're

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Speaker 18: going to win twenty three seats on Saturday. I said, no,

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Speaker 18: you're not. You're going to win seventeen. He said, I'll

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Speaker 18: beat you the best case of New Zealand Schardonay, that

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Speaker 18: will win twenty three. Well, come to the election. They

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Speaker 18: won seventeen. Took me several weeks before I got the

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Speaker 18: case of wine wasn't Chardona Shardona, though it came from

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Speaker 18: mills Reef, which was the vineyard in his own electorate.

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Speaker 18: I hadn't heard of it and he said, just goes

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Speaker 18: to show how much you know about wine. But I

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Speaker 18: knew enough to know that the labels weren't regular labels.

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Speaker 18: They had Winston Peter's campaign photo on the labels and

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Speaker 18: it was saving on blanc be not the best New Zealand, so.

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Speaker 3: You know, but look hard way to keeping a good bet.

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Speaker 18: He's had a remarkable career, hasn't he dislike him?

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Speaker 22: Job?

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Speaker 3: Half a century? Half a century? It's incredible. Now, Barry,

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Speaker 3: this will be our last chat for a wee while, well,

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Speaker 3: we're going to be talking later. We'll talk later on.

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Speaker 3: But Heather's coming back yep from Monday, which is great.

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Speaker 18: Yes, and you're going to be off doing goee eternal duties.

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Speaker 18: I did it with our little one who's three now,

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Speaker 18: and I did it much longer than I'm doing this one.

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Speaker 18: I'm doing this one for three months. But it's great.

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Speaker 18: It's one thing about good about being an older dad

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Speaker 18: that you can actually do this when I was younger

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Speaker 18: with my first family, the oldest of which turned forty

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Speaker 18: three just the other day. So the little baby has

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Speaker 18: got a forty three year old sister, and it's incredible

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Speaker 18: that I never had the time then got the time now,

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Speaker 18: and look I reveled and looking after our little boy,

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Speaker 18: and I'm sure I'll do the same with our daughter.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you will too, And I know that the

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Speaker 3: listeners will be pleased to have you back in a

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Speaker 3: few months once, once you're sick and tired of that

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Speaker 3: the dragon ja. Yeah, actually I was thinking about Barry

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Speaker 3: because I'm going to go back to doing the more

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Speaker 3: warnings obviously, so I'm finished quite early, so we might

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Speaker 3: both be free for some day drinking.

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Speaker 18: Of course you can go well, bring allowed to drink

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Speaker 18: with the baby.

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Speaker 3: We bring the baby along. Yeah, right, good to see

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Speaker 3: you very well. See you later on. It is eight

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Speaker 3: to five News Talk ZIBB putting.

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Speaker 1: The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 24: Asia Business Corresponding Peter Lewis withers, but one forty five

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Speaker 24: for China, is that a completely separate thing that will

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Speaker 24: unfold in its own way, or because China is China,

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Speaker 24: we're all in this together.

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Speaker 6: I think in some ways we're all in this together

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Speaker 6: because what happens to the Chinese economy coffects the rest

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Speaker 6: of Asia. About fifteen percent of China's economy depends upon exports.

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Speaker 6: Around fifteen percent of that goes to the US, so

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Speaker 6: this could easily shave off a couple of percent off

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Speaker 6: of China's GDP because when how it's are one hundred

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Speaker 6: and forty five percent. Trade between those two countries has

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Speaker 6: come to a complete.

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Speaker 24: Hark back Monday from six am, the mic asking Breakfast

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Speaker 24: with the Rain Driver, the last News Talk ZIBB.

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Speaker 3: It has just gone four minutes away from five o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Can I just say thank you to everybody who's sending

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Speaker 3: such lovely messages? Well, I guess saying goodbye for now.

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Speaker 3: Heather is back with you on Monday, and I will

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Speaker 3: be back in the mornings. Many of you are saying, look,

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Speaker 3: it's too early for me to get up, Janine, just

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Speaker 3: change your schedule, Okay, get up early, set an alarm.

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Speaker 3: I'm not having this nonsense. Same goes for you, Grant,

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Speaker 3: and same goes for you Gwen. Now this is interesting,

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Speaker 3: this is out a way. Actually you haven't got time.

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Speaker 3: Now we're good A minute, good a minute. So opening

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Speaker 3: the lid on what's really been going on in the

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Speaker 3: military across the Indo Pacific, His Admiral Samuel Papara, he's

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Speaker 3: the head of the US Indo Pacific Command. He's come

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Speaker 3: out and said China has provided seventy percent of the

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Speaker 3: machine tools and ninety percent of the chips to Russia

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Speaker 3: to rebuild its war machine. In other words, not only China,

656
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Speaker 3: but North Korea quite instrumental in helping Russia against Ukraine.

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Speaker 3: Some of the numbers in here are quite staggering. They

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Speaker 3: reckon North Korea is sending thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands

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Speaker 3: of artillery shells and thousands of short range missiles to Russia.

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Speaker 3: The expectation in return is that Pyongyang will get air

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Speaker 3: defense and surface to air missile support from China. I

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Speaker 3: mean this is you know, their friends, you know something's

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Speaker 3: going on, but didn't quite know it was that extensive.

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Speaker 3: It's coming up to five o'clock News Talks here. B

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Speaker 3: Chris Pink on the veterans, Next.

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Speaker 1: Questions, Answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for

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Speaker 1: the full picture. Brian Bridge on Heather Dupless Allen Drive

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Speaker 1: with One New Zealand Let's get Connected.

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Speaker 3: News talks AB Good Evening at a seven half to

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Speaker 3: five News Talks hered B Grant Dolton standing by on

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Speaker 3: Peter Berling. Right now the government broadening the definition today

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Speaker 3: of who is an official veteran. This will cover more

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Speaker 3: former soldiers, sailors, aviators, but they're not going to get

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Speaker 3: extra compensation or pensions. Chris penk is the minister with

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Speaker 3: me now, hime minister.

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Speaker 25: Good evening.

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Speaker 3: So who are you extending this to.

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Speaker 25: Well, it's everyone who has served in our armed forces

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Speaker 25: effectively for three years or more, although if you've gone

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Speaker 25: on a deployment and you're within that period of time,

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Speaker 25: you'd be recognized as a veteran. And the point is

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Speaker 25: that a lot of people join up and serve in

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Speaker 25: uniforman proudly represent the country and do all the right things.

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Speaker 25: And actually there's a slightly insulting I think some have said, actually,

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Speaker 25: and I think they're right that there's an official definition

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Speaker 25: of veteran on our statute book that actually precludes them.

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Speaker 25: So we're doing something about that.

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Speaker 3: So veteran will be even if you haven't served overseas,

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Speaker 3: you've been based in New Zealand, you can still be

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Speaker 3: called a veteran.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 25: And there are things that the Defense Force do in

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Speaker 25: New Zealand are actually quite significant if you think about,

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Speaker 25: you know, loss of life following earthquakes for Carli White Islands.

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Speaker 25: You know, dare I say that the covid roles, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think they liked that.

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Speaker 25: That's all the more reason for them to be recognized.

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Speaker 25: That they do as they're told and they serve us,

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Speaker 25: you know, in whatever the way that the government of

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Speaker 25: the days, that should be recognized.

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Speaker 3: So why not give them if you want to recognize them,

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Speaker 3: why not give, as Willie A. Piata argued, give them

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Speaker 3: the support as well as the title.

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Speaker 25: Yeah, I mean there are important ways that we can

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Speaker 25: support contemporary veterans more. And actually that's part of the

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Speaker 25: reason that we're broadening out the idea of a veteran.

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Speaker 25: I think if you had to be asked to describe one,

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Speaker 25: you might say older, a male having served in you know,

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Speaker 25: one of the World Wars or Vietnam. But the reality

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Speaker 25: is that actually there are a lot of needs that

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Speaker 25: need to be taken into account that aren't currently so

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Speaker 25: contemporary veterans and mental health is a major issues, for example,

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Speaker 25: So broadening that conversation actually will be helpful in potential

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Speaker 25: while protecting the support and titles are available for those

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Speaker 25: who were injured or l in that qualifying operational service.

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Speaker 3: So will anyone get extra supporter or entitlements because of

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Speaker 3: the change that you've made.

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Speaker 25: Not under the Veteran Support Act, but by having well,

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Speaker 25: first of all, by administering that better, by reducing the

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Speaker 25: time frames that people who are entitled actually get something

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Speaker 25: meaningful that they're already entitled to. That's a bit of

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Speaker 25: what we're doing. But actually the recognition, even though you

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Speaker 25: might think is just symbolic, you know, the symbols and

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Speaker 25: feeling valued and recognized, is actually really important to people.

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Speaker 25: They'll do anything for a medal, which, if you want

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Speaker 25: to reduce it is just a bit of iron with

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Speaker 25: a bit of ribbon, but actually it means something, so

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Speaker 25: I think, you know, and certainly the feedback I've been

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Speaker 25: getting this afternoon is people are really pleased that actually

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Speaker 25: they're going to feel valued in a way that that

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Speaker 25: many of them haven't until now.

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Speaker 3: Chris Penk, Chris pink Rather are the Veterans Minister, Thanks

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Speaker 3: so much of your time. Appreciate it. Ten after five

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Speaker 3: Ran Rich big surprise move today Peter Berling and Team

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Speaker 3: New Zealand parting ways. This after a very successful ten

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Speaker 3: years for the Skipper Helm Grant Dalton is the Team

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Speaker 3: New Zealand chief executive grunt Hey, Ryan, So what's the

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Speaker 3: reason why is he leaving?

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Speaker 21: Well, we just ran out of time. Basically, we've been

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Speaker 21: talking since Barcelona and need certainty put out an offer

741
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Speaker 21: in front of him from us, and honestly, we never

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Speaker 21: really got to the point of rejecting or either way

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Speaker 21: on the offer. I ended up pulling the offer because

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Speaker 21: we just couldn't get going. And it's yeah, it's a

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Speaker 21: sad day, but Teams one hundred and twenty people, we've

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Speaker 21: got an America's cart where a new completely uncharted territory

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Speaker 21: trying to win it for the fourth time, and we've

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Speaker 21: got to get going.

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Speaker 3: So you actually pulled the offer?

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Speaker 1: Is it?

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Speaker 14: Why?

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Speaker 3: Was he just taking his time or was there a

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Speaker 3: particular issue over something in the contract?

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Speaker 21: Yeah, I mean that's that's a fair question. I think

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Speaker 21: there's two elements really too. There's one is time and

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Speaker 21: the other is money. And we never already got to

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Speaker 21: other than you know, this guy's office overseas that gets

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Speaker 21: paid out of a lot. That was about as far

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Speaker 21: as we got on the money relative to the offer

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Speaker 21: that I'd put on the table, which in Team New

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Speaker 21: Zellan's terms was a big number and time. I mean

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Speaker 21: twenty seven the Cups in twenty seven, we're in twenty

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Speaker 21: five now. Now, I know that sounds a normal sport

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Speaker 21: quite a long time, but we actually start building a

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Speaker 21: boat at the end of the year, a new boat,

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Speaker 21: so it's coming out as fast and a fast as cycle.

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Speaker 21: And so although we can accommodate to a point, twenty

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Speaker 21: seven is a pretty much unaccommodating year for us. We've

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Speaker 21: got to have our people in place all the time,

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Speaker 21: and there's one hundred and nineteen other people that are

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Speaker 21: there to win the cup and completely permitted. So look,

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Speaker 21: Pete's had amazing contribution and we leave on on great terms.

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Speaker 21: There's nothing in it any more than that. And I

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Speaker 21: know that people would try and sensationalize this somehow, but

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Speaker 21: it's just it's not like that. You know, we've been

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Speaker 21: beating me having chatting this morning.

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Speaker 3: In fact, it sounds like you might have called us

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Speaker 3: bluff though, you know, so he's he's obviously got an

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Speaker 3: expectation about what he wants and you weren't prepared to

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Speaker 3: go there or whatever, so you just pulled the offer.

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Speaker 21: I think calls Bluff's not the right way to describe it.

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Speaker 21: It's possible that he didn't believe that this could ever happen,

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Speaker 21: and you know, and hindsight may be a wonderful thing

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Speaker 21: for him and maybe for us. Well let's see in

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Speaker 21: twenty seven. But you know, we had to get going.

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Speaker 21: We had from that position of where he was. Really

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Speaker 21: the sailing team develops. We've retained, you know, the guys

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Speaker 21: that we want from last time, and they're all world classed,

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Speaker 21: there's no doubt of that. But the sailing teams are

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Speaker 21: very much an important part of integrating with the design team.

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Speaker 21: They're not isolating in that respect, and that's one of

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Speaker 21: the strengths of the team, of course, combining people and

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Speaker 21: as I say, we needed certainty and we couldn't come

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Speaker 21: to an agreement on that certainty. So look, it's not

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Speaker 21: any more complicated than that. And where Pete's had an

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Speaker 21: immense contribution to the team. I don't think either of

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Speaker 21: us we certainly didn't start and needed it to end

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Speaker 21: up in the spot. But here we are.

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Speaker 3: Is sale GP a problem for you? Is it going

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Speaker 3: to be a problem for you in terms of keeping sailors,

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Speaker 3: you know, retaining them if they're spreading their time elsewhere.

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Speaker 21: Well, all our sailors actually are insul GP. So in

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Speaker 21: that respect, guys have got a race.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 21: It's like you can't just turn up at the World

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Speaker 21: Cup rugby. I mean I played footy, so it's good

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Speaker 21: from that respect. It's a league and they're completely complementary

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Speaker 21: and so much as you know, if you're like, we're

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Speaker 21: the World Cup and the Champions League if you like,

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Speaker 21: so it's only good for the sport. But it just

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Speaker 21: becomes a time when they clash, and I think they

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Speaker 21: all clash in twenty seven. Then it's naive of anybody

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Speaker 21: to think that you can do both. So Team Muzell's

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Speaker 21: job is to come, you know, to win the fourth

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Speaker 21: for the fourth time. I mean three times. Was never

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Speaker 21: been done before, the people had tried. Nobody's even has

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Speaker 21: come into this uncharted territory of the four and rinse

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Speaker 21: and repeating won't work. It's just teams don't work that way.

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Speaker 21: They actually go backwards. So we have to revitalize, reinvigorate

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Speaker 21: and bring a new talent as well. And there's some

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Speaker 21: seriously fast kids around, you know, as people would attest to.

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Speaker 21: You know, he was that head with his boat on

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Speaker 21: the roof rack that came to see me in two

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Speaker 21: twenty thirteen, and there's those tips are around again.

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Speaker 3: Do you hold any grudges against the government for not

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Speaker 3: putting chipping money and to keep amid the America's Cup

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Speaker 3: in Auckland?

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Speaker 21: Oh Christ no, no, no, no, no, no, no no,

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Speaker 21: we've completely aligned on the fact that there are priorities Crichium.

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Speaker 21: Even since that announcement, the world's gone nuts again. What

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Speaker 21: a great time to be doing an America's Cup at

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Speaker 21: the moment. So no, not at all. We would like

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Speaker 21: to It was genuine, you know. Basically the numbers have

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Speaker 21: been slightly embellished by envy, like they're quite good at doing.

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Speaker 21: It was never seventy five million. I'm okay, five millions

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Speaker 21: a lot of money, I get it, But it wasn't

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Speaker 21: seventy five.

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Speaker 4: It was like forty.

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Speaker 21: And they've added in the police, customs, airports staff, you know,

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Speaker 21: stuff that just makes the number look better if you're

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Speaker 21: trying to reject the number in that movie. But it's

842
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Speaker 21: a shame because it doesn't make it any easier to

843
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Speaker 21: have the cutback. In New Zealand, however, we have only

844
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Speaker 21: one objective, and we've only this has sort of caused

845
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Speaker 21: the problem in the first place. In twenty one, our

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Speaker 21: objectives is to win and anything else is completely secondary.

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Speaker 21: So we're going offshore again, but we're still going offshore

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Speaker 21: to win.

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Speaker 3: And just finally, any other of your crew are you

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Speaker 3: worried about any other of your crew not being with

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Speaker 3: you in twenty twenty seven? You know, will Blair be there?

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Speaker 3: Will everyone else be there?

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Speaker 21: Well, Blair is the obvious question, and everyone asked because

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Speaker 21: you know, Pete and Blair Bla and Pete and joined

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00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 21: at the hip, and yeah, exactly, And they're quite different

856
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 21: in one respect. I mean, they're both immensely talent today,

857
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Speaker 21: but Blair is more able to be more mobile because

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Speaker 21: of the role he fits within the team. So he's

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 21: more like a super sub, whereas Pete was integral to

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Speaker 21: that whole kind of sailing team development and into the

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Speaker 21: design team. Now they all have him put Blair, particularly

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Speaker 21: into foils for example, but he's more audible as such.

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Speaker 21: And you know where in the process of hopefully putting

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Speaker 21: together the deal with a deal together with Blair, he

865
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Speaker 21: certainly wants to stay and we wanted to stay, all right.

866
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Speaker 3: Grant have to leave it there. Appreciate your time. Grant Dalton,

867
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: the Team New Zealand Chief executive with us talking about

868
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 3: the departure of Peter Burling. End of an era, Really,

869
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: isn't it seventeen after five news talks. I've got a

870
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: few thoughts on that, and so do you looking at

871
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 3: the text machine. We'll get to them shortly plus eighty

872
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: years of Winston Peters will say Happy birthday.

873
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: Next.

874
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 3: You know what's underrated your vehicle, your car, whatever you're driving. Seriously,

875
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 3: if you're running a business and you're running around town anyway,

876
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 3: why not turn that vehicle into a mobile billboard. Speedy

877
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: Signs can sort you out with graphics or a full

878
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 3: wrap around your car that gets your brand out there

879
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 3: everywhere you're going in the best bit is you don't

880
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 3: have to do anything different, You just drive around. Even

881
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 3: when you're parked. That signage is doing its things. Sitting

882
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: outside a job site, your advertised pulled up at the supermarket,

883
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 3: still advertising. Speedy Scigence has been doing this for twenty

884
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 3: five years. They know they're doing They've got nearly thirty

885
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 3: locations around the country, so they make sure that your

886
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 3: signage looks slick professional. Wherever you are, call eight hundred

887
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 3: Speedy or check out Speedy Signs dot co dot nz.

888
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: Turn your daily commute into future sales.

889
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: Brian Bridge gone.

890
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Twenty one after five. Now the rift between Winston Peters

891
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 3: and our Prime Minister seems to be widening this afternoon.

892
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: I'll get to that in just a second. But there's

893
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 3: another thing to mark, and that is Winston Peter's eighty

894
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 3: year birthday. Today. We've collated some of his most unique

895
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 3: quotes to celebrate. This one's for you, Winston Tat.

896
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: What is pushing galore?

897
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 26: Men?

898
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 27: What does it mean with all those photographs?

899
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 2: Shame more?

900
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 14: Men?

901
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: Shut up and go, Shut up and go.

902
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 18: You don't don't get an air cut.

903
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: We're gonna have declare a war on woke.

904
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 27: We're not wasting our time with a present bunch of

905
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 27: unreformed losers. You don't shout out like some bunch of

906
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 27: clouds university. You're in turn, don't just carry on like

907
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 27: a bigoted lefty shield and woke idiotic left with the ideas.

908
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 27: You're talking about a beat of cuckold who's got so

909
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 27: much integrity he has to get another party of pop

910
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 27: them up. Oh, for goodness, say David seamounis covered as Manus,

911
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 27: the same way Columbus discovered America beauty by accident. No no, no,

912
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 27: on the Mariah Meghan, you keep quiet. No no, As

913
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 27: the founder of on the Cooma Royal said, Winston is

914
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 27: not Andi Maray, He's just anti nonsense.

915
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: Yes, happy birthday, Winston. Peter's his owner in the Pacific

916
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: at the moment, so probably won't be listening to this broadcast.

917
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,439
Speaker 3: But did you know he's been elected fifteen times since

918
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 3: he entered parliament in nineteen seventy eight. Very quickly an

919
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: update on Winston and Luxon. So Winston Peters has now

920
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: come out and said that, and he's referring to Christopher

921
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: Luxon needs to quote tone down the retrick. He told

922
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: arin z He that he had not been consulted by

923
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 3: Luxon ahead of Luxon going ahead and making all those

924
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 3: calls to the foreign leaders. He says, quote, I hope

925
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,879
Speaker 3: that he'll get my message and he'll call me next time.

926
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 3: So bitter beef between the two of them. Twenty three

927
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 3: after five News Talk SVB.

928
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 2: Checking the point of the story.

929
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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge, John Heather dupas Allen Drive with One

930
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: New Zealand, Let's get connected.

931
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: News Talk Seb five, twenty five on News Talk saidb

932
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 3: what else do you call it? But calling is bluff.

933
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: This is the Team New Zealand divorce from Peter Berling

934
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: that's been announced today. So we spoke to Grant Dalton

935
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 3: earlier in the show. Berlin gets off at a contract.

936
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 3: There's a written contract on the table right and by

937
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: Dalton's account, it's a big number. There is a big

938
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: number in terms of Team New Zealand dollars sitting on

939
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: the table there with it doesn't get signed. Why don't

940
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: you sign a contract, Well, because you either don't like

941
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: the deal the terms that are in there, or you're

942
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: negotiating off off with someone else for a better one.

943
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 3: So then contract doesn't get signed. Right then Dalton pulls

944
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 3: the offer. That's what he told us tonight. He pulled

945
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 3: the offer. Berlin, he said he doesn't think was expecting that.

946
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: What else do you call that? Other than he called

947
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: us bluff? Bad off the sale GP He goes, I

948
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: guess to collect millions somewhere else, but not with Team

949
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 3: New Zealand and not in the twenty twenty seven America's Cut.

950
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: The thirty eighth twenty seven, after five hour news talks,

951
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: here'd be We've got the sports huddle next, and just

952
00:48:41,640 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 3: how environmentally friendly is the stuff you're buying from? Timor Arnie.

953
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan First.

954
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 2: It's Ryan Bridge on.

955
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: Hither Duplicy allan drive with one New Zealand Let's get connected.

956
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: News Talk said B.

957
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 28: Hi, nice to meet your too, Hi, Leab you Google

958
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 28: does get up off up, The jees said, he's life forever,

959
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 28: so he together.

960
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 3: When he brought it away from six year old news

961
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: Talk said B it's not breaking news, but it is

962
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: news on the Herald this afternoon that Stuart Nash, who's

963
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 3: a regular on this program and many others, is not

964
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: ruling out a heelp for New Zealand First at the

965
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 3: next election. We've actually asked him, sorry, old News, We've

966
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,839
Speaker 3: actually asked him this ages ago, because the rumor has

967
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 3: been going during the rounds for a long time, and

968
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: he says in this piece not rolling it out. And

969
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 3: then New Zealand First says, well, we haven't even talked

970
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: about candidates yet, so I don't know. Maybe him and

971
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 3: Winston have got a spit in the hand kind of

972
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 3: handshake deal. I don't know, but I don't think so,

973
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 3: because otherwise he would be saying more than he's saying.

974
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: He's just not ruling anything out. Interestingly, and he has

975
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: come on here and had a whack it labor. But

976
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: interesting in this piece he says, I think labor is

977
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 3: losing touch with the people who return it to power

978
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty and gave them power in twenty seventeen.

979
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: So there you go. The cool aid is well and

980
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: surely being washed out of his system, no longer the

981
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 3: victim of Stockholm syndrome. Twenty four away from six Ryan Bridge.

982
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 3: Chinese retailers like Timu and Sheen, if you've used these before,

983
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: they could be looking to step up their influence here

984
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: in New Zealand. This, of course, after Trump's put one

985
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five percent tariff right on China. The

986
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: e commerce giants now will have excess stock. Where does

987
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 3: it go potentially to us? So will we get cheaper stuff?

988
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: Is that a good thing? Kate Haul's the founder of

989
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 3: Ethically Kate Kate. Good afternoon or good evening, Hello, good evening.

990
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: Good to have you on the show. So you won't

991
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: like this because it's a whole bunch of cheap plastic

992
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 3: stuff basically that will come our way.

993
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 20: Yes, And to be honest, it has already been coming

994
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 20: our way all different people in different social circles. A

995
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 20: lot of people I know have already been consumers of Temu.

996
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 20: And yeah, unfortunately, I think it's just going to get worse.

997
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 3: Do you think, Because I was thinking about you the

998
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 3: other day, if we if we're not going to you know,

999
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 3: if trade world, global trade was going to fall apart,

1000
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 3: I was like, how would what would I actually what

1001
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: do I own that would last a lifetime? I couldn't.

1002
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 3: There was a pair of leather boots, but these days,

1003
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 3: no one has anything that will last a lifetime, apart

1004
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 3: from maybe jewelry and you know, one pair of shoes.

1005
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're so right.

1006
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 20: And I'd say most purchases I've heard from people who

1007
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 20: have purchased from Timu don't last. It just turns into

1008
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 20: rubbish that they then need to dispose of. And we

1009
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 20: would do totally fine if we didn't have availability to Temo.

1010
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 20: I think most purchases people make on there. You look

1011
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 20: at all the different gadgets and the different types of

1012
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 20: things that are just ridiculous. We don't need We've lived

1013
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 20: centuries without, so we can go back to basics.

1014
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 3: How many do you think, like, if you've got something

1015
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: that's really good, do you reckon? You could do your

1016
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 3: whole life because you're ethically caked. So if anyone can

1017
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 3: do it, Kate, it's you.

1018
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 4: Do you reckon?

1019
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: You could do your whole life with one coat, one

1020
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 3: pair of shoes. I mean, obviously you need to change

1021
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: of nickers and stuff, but your coat and your shoes, yep.

1022
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 20: I would say that it is sizing issues different. I'm

1023
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 20: also I've experienced that been pregnant the last several months.

1024
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 20: You know, our different bodies fluctuate and change. But I think,

1025
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 20: imagine if we just had, you know, everyone kind of

1026
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 20: had that one pair of shoes and then there could

1027
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 20: be some trading involved. I often dream of this type

1028
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 20: of reality that we just, you know, had that one

1029
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 20: pair and then there's trading with different sizes. I've been

1030
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 20: traveling for the past two months and living with not

1031
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 20: much at all. I just have the one coat, one cardigan,

1032
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 20: which I doubler for warmth, and it's so refreshing, saves

1033
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 20: lots of money, and it just makes life so much

1034
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 20: more simple.

1035
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 3: But Kate, do you smell? Do I don't smell?

1036
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 20: I would say it is funny people, I've heard rumors.

1037
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 20: You know, I've been called a smelly hippie many times

1038
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 20: in my life, but they don't realize that probably commited

1039
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 20: to a lot of people. My hygiene standards are actually

1040
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 20: quite high. I used to be a professional cleaner for

1041
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 20: a little bit in my life, and I am very

1042
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 20: aware and check with multiple people. If I smell, yeah,

1043
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 20: it's it's you.

1044
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 14: Let me know.

1045
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 20: If anyone does smell me, they see me out and about.

1046
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: I'm just pleased it's radio. I'm pleased it's ready. But

1047
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: do you think because you wear the same clothes over

1048
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: and over, you're probably more conscious of it and therefore

1049
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 3: more aware and probably clean yourself more well.

1050
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 20: Yeah, because also you know, I'm looking right now at

1051
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 20: this coach that I've been wearing for the last two months,

1052
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 20: and that actually made from uplack of quilts, and I

1053
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 20: was looking at thinking and I smelt it, and kind

1054
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 20: of I have much more time to look over each

1055
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 20: garment and see you are there any threads they're going

1056
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,240
Speaker 20: to fall apart?

1057
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 14: You know?

1058
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 20: Is there any kind of a pair that needs to

1059
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 20: be down. I have much more time to invest time,

1060
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 20: money and energy and cleaning and washing and focusing on

1061
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 20: keeping these garments alive, because I don't have heaps of

1062
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 20: them that are just kind of sprawled everywhere that I

1063
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 20: just kind of discard as disposable skin. At the end

1064
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 20: of the day, I'm really aware of how something you

1065
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 20: know is going the wellbeing of the garment.

1066
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: Good on you, Kate, Nice to have you on the show.

1067
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 3: Kate Hall, Kate with her quilt coat, founder of Ethically

1068
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: Kate twenty to six.

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Speaker 1: Friday Sports l with New Zealand Somebody's international realty, the

1070
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Speaker 1: ones with worldwide connections that perform, not promise.

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Speaker 21: We just could not put a together between us based

1072
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 21: on time, I guess primarily, but we never even got

1073
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 21: to the stage of diffin breeing on money, even though

1074
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 21: I think the often weekut in front of him was

1075
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 21: hugely reasonable.

1076
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 19: Obviously, he was a Kiwi that drove for BJR, the

1077
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 19: same team as me, and he was number eight two,

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Speaker 19: which is the same number as me. So when we

1079
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 19: come here there's a bit more intensity, a bit more

1080
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 19: motion about it, but.

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00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,479
Speaker 5: It's the full time defending Premiers who have now lost

1082
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 5: five games in a row, languishing.

1083
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: In the bottom part of the table. Full time at s.

1084
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 24: Uncle the Dolphins thirty have defeated a pantheras twelve.

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00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 3: Nineteen to Sex News Talks, He've been Matt Brown, OC

1086
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: communications manager on the Huddle tonight. Hey Matt, Ryan, good

1087
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: to have you back. And Darcy water Graves here, hosts

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00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 3: of Sports Talk and the Sports Fix podcast Darcy, Good evening,

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00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: and you.

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00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 12: Will Sport Breakfast on Saturday morning.

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00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 18: Hello Ryan, how are you?

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00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 3: Could you get a shorter job title? Hey, Peter Berling

1093
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 3: at the moment doesn't have a job title. Did you

1094
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 3: hear Matt the interview? I'm hoping you were tuning in?

1095
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: Of course, after five we spoke to grind Dalton about this.

1096
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 3: He said, look, there was a big number in the contract.

1097
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 3: It wasn't signed, so he pulled the offer.

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00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 14: Yeah.

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00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 11: Look, I could caught the last couple of minutes of

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00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 11: the interview, so not the full interview, but from what

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00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 11: I've read today, it certainly sounds like for me and

1102
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 11: I was close to the America's Cup a few years ago,

1103
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 11: you know, working at ZB and Peter Berling, you know,

1104
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 11: proud care. We really committed to that team, but I

1105
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 11: think it could be it's a business decision. At the

1106
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 11: end of the day, America's Cup becomes such big business.

1107
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 11: And you know, Dean Barker was the skipper and he

1108
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 11: went off to America and Magic after he got dropped

1109
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 11: by Team New Zealand. Different circumstances this time, but I

1110
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 11: just wonder whether there could be an offer cooking elsewhere

1111
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 11: for Peter Berlin and maybe it's time for him to change.

1112
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 11: I mean, he's won the America's Cup three times with

1113
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 11: Team New Zealand, and you know, it's business. It's not

1114
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 11: as much about neightionhood as what it perhaps used to be.

1115
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 12: There are three big things here and I think one

1116
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 12: of them is being wildly overlooked. Well, one's pretty obvious.

1117
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 12: He has got sale GP, which is the CEO of

1118
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 12: he runs. He's got a lot of work on his

1119
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 12: plate dealing with that and that is a huge commitment

1120
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 12: across the globe. Okay, so that's one big thing. Seeking

1121
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 12: big thing, Grant Dalton. Not everybody is driven by money,

1122
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 12: So I'd suggest this, matter how big your offer is,

1123
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 12: if he doesn't want to do it, he doesn't want

1124
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 12: to do it then telling The third one is this

1125
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,479
Speaker 12: he's become a dad. You know, I think that people

1126
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 12: don't understand that when you become a parent for the

1127
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 12: first time, that is your entire focus. He's got sale GP.

1128
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 12: Does he really want to be locked in his shed

1129
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 12: eighteen hours a day for the next two years designing

1130
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Speaker 12: a boat to go and sail?

1131
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: Some of the why wouldn't you say that? Though? Why

1132
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 3: wouldn't you say? I don't for these reasons, I'm not

1133
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 3: signing the contract as it stands. What we know is

1134
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 3: that it just went silent, and then Dalton pulls the contract.

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00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 2: Well if we talk.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, You've got to remember now that the cycle is

1137
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 11: so much shorter. It's not the big four or five

1138
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 11: years between regattas, It's a couple of years. So it

1139
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 11: could be as simple as maybe he wants to sit

1140
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 11: out the next cycle, as Darcy just said, Look, he

1141
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 11: has become a father. Maybe with the commitment to sar

1142
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 11: GP needs to sit out a cycle. I have no

1143
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 11: doubt he will return to the America's Cup at some point,

1144
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 11: whether it's the next one the one after that, he

1145
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 11: will be back. But yeah, it could be as simple

1146
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 11: as the fact that these cycles are so close together.

1147
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 11: Now maybe he needs a break.

1148
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: All right, we're going to talk about the number of

1149
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 3: people now watching Super Rugby when the huddle returns. Matt

1150
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 3: Brown and Darcy Walter Grave.

1151
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: The Friday Sports titled with New Zealand South Ofby's International

1152
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: Reality achieved extraordinary results with unparalleled.

1153
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: Reach Friday Sport thirteen to six. Matt Brown OFC Communications

1154
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 3: manager in Darcy Watergrave from News Talks A B I know,

1155
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: I was, honestly, it's like such a mouthful, Darcy. I

1156
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 3: can't do it every time. Now let's talk about Super Rugby.

1157
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 3: The viewing numbers are quite impressive this year, so a

1158
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: twelve percent increase in New Zealand, Matt, and a thirty

1159
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 3: percent increase in Australia now out rating the NRL.

1160
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 12: Yeah that I mean our staggering stats.

1161
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 11: I'm not surprised in terms of the ratings being up

1162
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 11: because the product has been good this year. Anyone can

1163
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 11: beat anyone one Australian team less in the competition what

1164
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 11: eleven teams Now, the Australian sides have got better. That

1165
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 11: talent pool has been spread and they are you know,

1166
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 11: all of them can kind of beat the New Zealand

1167
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 11: side now in any given day and it's just been

1168
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 11: good rugby, a lot of good footy, entertaining open games

1169
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 11: by and large. I think last weekend's Blues match was

1170
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 11: probably the exception in Maaia. Pacifica have brought so much

1171
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 11: to it. I heard you saying earlier with Jason plain

1172
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 11: about are they the number one team in Auckland or

1173
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 11: the number one team to support up here? And they're

1174
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 11: certainly one of the one of the teams to support

1175
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 11: because of the way they play. They are all action. Yeah,

1176
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 11: it's an entertaining product. So certainly the ratings you know,

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00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 11: clearly show that. And look, the NRL is still a

1178
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 11: great product too, and here's always going to be the

1179
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 11: competition between the coats.

1180
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Speaker 12: But but I just think there's a lot of good

1181
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 12: footing and that's why people are chuning in twelve.

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01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 3: Percent of what that's twelve percent increase increase from yours.

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01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 12: So and what about the Australians thirty.

1184
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 3: Percent increase on the year before.

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01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 12: Yeah, and if there was no one watching it the

1186
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 12: year before, thirty percent isn't a.

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01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 18: Great deal, is it? No?

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Speaker 3: But it's it's the growth, right, I mean, it's.

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Speaker 18: Growing, it's not drinking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The question is why, if this is working, why didn't

1193
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 3: they change make these changes ages ago.

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Speaker 12: There's a new commission that's going and they've been charged

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Speaker 12: with actually sorting the game out because it's been a

1196
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 12: little bit of a disaster. It's had its good times,

1197
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 12: it's had its bad times, but it needed someone to

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Speaker 12: turn up and slap it around. And we'll go back

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Speaker 12: to this term and make you be sick of this

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01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 12: from your days in sport.

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Speaker 2: We'll put the.

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Speaker 12: Fan at the seed of the room. And they're actually

1203
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 12: doing it. They've actually sat down and gone, oh, okay,

1204
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 12: what do you guys want to see? I what an

1205
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 12: amazing idea, ask the fans, because without us, the games

1206
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 12: nothing now totally there's nothing. So they've sat down and gone, right,

1207
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 12: what's going to work. We're going to we clean this up.

1208
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 12: We're going to clean that.

1209
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 18: We're going to do this man and lo and behold,

1210
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 18: it's working.

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Speaker 3: Sebastian Schabel. This is a reason that young kids don't

1212
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: want to play. All their parents don't want them to play, right,

1213
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,959
Speaker 3: this is a problem. So Sebastian Schabel, who's the former

1214
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 3: French rugby star, revealing he cannot remember a single second

1215
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 3: of his entire career. Matt that, I mean, that is

1216
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 3: not a good It's terrible for him, but also not

1217
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 3: a great advertisement for rugby.

1218
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 13: Is it.

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Speaker 12: Gosh, it isn't.

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Speaker 11: And I just remember interviewing him after that, immediately after

1221
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 11: Franz beat the All Blacks and O seven and Cardiff

1222
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 11: and that infamous match. From a New Zealand perspective, I mean,

1223
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 11: he was a colossus. He was an incredible player, but

1224
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 11: he took a.

1225
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 9: Lot of Knox.

1226
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 11: He was so physical, soberg and clearly you know those words, CTE.

1227
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 11: You think of the athletes who have been affected over

1228
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 11: the years. I mean I think of Carl Hayman from

1229
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 11: an All Blacks perspective. We played in that match back

1230
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 11: in two thousand and seven. You know, the memory loss,

1231
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,000
Speaker 11: the dementia that that can come, and it's just really sad.

1232
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 11: I think he also said you can't remember his daughter's

1233
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 11: birthday and can't remember a thing about rugby. It's really

1234
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 11: sad and it's going to We're going to see.

1235
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 12: More and more of this, I think, and there probably

1236
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 12: is a lot more and more that's been on the

1237
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 12: download because no one wants to admit it. But I

1238
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 12: think what's happened now is that more it's getting talked about,

1239
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 12: more people actually hold on Yah me too, which is

1240
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 12: it's a real issue that his nickname was the Sea Bass,

1241
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 12: wasn't it? Matt something stunning nickname and yeah, ferocious, but

1242
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 12: it's it comes with results like this if you throw

1243
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 12: your body around like that. But now I think the

1244
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 12: difference is people are actually more cognizant of what the

1245
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 12: damage can be done, so they're starting to try and

1246
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 12: address it. Whether it could be solved or not, I

1247
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 12: don't know. In terms of standdowns and things like that.

1248
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 12: You know that you know that you don't take any

1249
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 12: risk ahead.

1250
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 11: Knock and you're off and it could be weeks and

1251
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 11: weeks and weeks, and it should be weeks and weeks

1252
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 11: and weeks and you know before you even consider coming back.

1253
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 12: Yeah, And they're looking at that time and practice as well,

1254
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 12: with the concussion rates and practice, so they're going to

1255
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 12: pull that back with a contact and practice, they're trying

1256
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 12: to mitigate it. And I get that, but like any

1257
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 12: contact sport, there is a risk that you'll do yourself

1258
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 12: some damage and you just take that risk. But you've

1259
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 12: got to know what that risk is. And I think

1260
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 12: back in the day, Matt, no one knew or.

1261
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 3: People just didn't want. You know, you don't want to

1262
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 3: give up your spot on the team. You don't want

1263
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: to give up your career, so you just don't tell

1264
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,840
Speaker 3: anyone what you're feeling on the inside. Which is but

1265
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 3: we're very.

1266
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 12: Aware of it now. Yeah, which is brilliant and shame.

1267
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 12: Dr John Mayhew's just passed. It was mad in that space.

1268
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 3: Just before we go, guys, Gary Steared so standing down

1269
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: as black Cat's white ball coach, should he just go

1270
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: all together leave on a high? What do you reckon?

1271
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 21: Matt?

1272
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 14: Well?

1273
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 11: Look, he said, I think, what's six seven years in

1274
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 11: charge from about twenty eighteen, he said, some amazing results,

1275
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 11: I mean, nothing better than the series when in India.

1276
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 12: Some disappointing results too.

1277
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 11: It's been you would say it's been a mixed bag,

1278
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 11: but as record stacks up when compared to Mike Hessen

1279
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 11: before him. So I think, look, concentrating on one if

1280
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 11: we can afford to have one coach, you know, I

1281
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 11: know what most other countries do it now you have

1282
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 11: white ball coaches, you have red ball coaches, so you know,

1283
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 11: to focus on test cricket if he's got the energy

1284
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 11: for that. We don't play a lot of Test cricket,

1285
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 11: but you know, he certainly has had a pretty decent

1286
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 11: record overall in charge of that black Caps Test team.

1287
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 12: The big story here for me is New Zealand cricket

1288
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 12: don't appear to know what they want. And that's what

1289
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 12: gets me. They're leading from the front. It's their coach,

1290
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 12: it's their team. They should drive this. Now they're like,

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Speaker 12: we actually don't know what we're after. We don't know

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Speaker 12: what Gary stead once, We're not entyler sure who will

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Speaker 12: even turn up?

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Speaker 18: Does anyone want a job?

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Speaker 12: What job?

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Speaker 18: Don't know?

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Speaker 12: To me, that is the issue, not whether Gary wants

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Speaker 12: to come or go. It's the lack of leadership and

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Speaker 12: the focus and it might not be, but that's what's

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Speaker 12: been presented to us and we're being told to wind

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Speaker 12: things up. Ryan Bridge's been absolute pleasure broadcasting with you

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Speaker 12: over the last few weeks, thinking so much for taking

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Speaker 12: the time and now it's back to ridiculously early starts

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Speaker 12: on early edition. But you bet a crack at mate.

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Speaker 3: Well done indeed, Oh thanks Darcy, I appreciate that, and likewise,

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Speaker 3: Ryan feeling its mutual. Matt, thanks very much for being

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Speaker 3: with us too. Appreciate your time. Matt Brown OFC communications

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Speaker 3: manager and Darcy Waldegrave, host of Sports Talk, host of

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Speaker 3: the Sports Fixed podcast and host of What's the Other One?

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Speaker 3: There you go? Seven to six.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk Zebbie.

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Speaker 3: News talksb It's four away from six. I'm getting all

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Speaker 3: of your messages. Thank you very much, much appreciated. Here's

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Speaker 3: one on Grant Dalton.

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Speaker 2: Ryan.

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Speaker 3: I hope Dalton knows what he's doing. There is only

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Speaker 3: one Peter Birling in the world. The only other driver

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Speaker 3: up to his level and experience is semi retired Jimmy Spiddle.

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Speaker 3: No other human can do what they do. There are

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Speaker 3: tons of new talent out there, but they don't have

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Speaker 3: the depth and the calm of Peter and Jimmy. Crap

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Speaker 3: says this Texter. It's a very good point and well

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Speaker 3: made too. I don't know what they'll do. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I guess you just have to start start again, almost,

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Speaker 3: don't you. He's confident the rest of the team's staying,

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Speaker 3: but in terms of the leadership, there's no doubt that

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Speaker 3: Peter Birling was well out in charge of that. Coming

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Speaker 3: up after six, we're going to look at you know

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Speaker 3: that they open the door to wil the government on

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Speaker 3: new government buildings. Now the timber people are up in arms.

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Speaker 3: They want a piece of the pie too. They're with

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Speaker 3: us after this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I walk right out the fire.

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Speaker 19: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: You try to keep me down, trying to boom me

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Speaker 14: underground burn.

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Speaker 9: I'm only going. I can hear you in my head and.

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Speaker 21: My be when I'm dreaming and you trying to dream dreading.

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Speaker 14: You'll lem skilled telling you where.

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Speaker 2: You can go.

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Speaker 3: News Talks MB, Good evening at a seven after six

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Speaker 3: News Talks NB, we're going to get to before the

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Speaker 3: top of the r Peter Lewis our Asia Business correspondent.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to Gavin Grahame the UK and Barry Soaper

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Speaker 3: will wrap the week in politics right now. It didn't

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Speaker 3: take long, did it. This week we had an announcement

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Speaker 3: from the government that they would give preferential treatment to

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Speaker 3: wool when they are refurbishing or building new government buildings,

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Speaker 3: which is great news for the wool industry in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Right now we've got local building producer producers of building

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Speaker 3: products saying what about us here? We timber organizations say

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Speaker 3: they've been lobbying for the same thing, haven't got it.

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Speaker 3: Timber Industry Federation director Jeff ilt is with us, Jeff

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Speaker 3: good evening, Yeah, evening, all right. So this was in

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Speaker 3: the New Zealand First coalition agreement with National so that

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Speaker 3: that's how it's got onto the agenda. Who have you guys,

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Speaker 3: who have you been going to trying to lobby for

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Speaker 3: your end?

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Speaker 4: We've we had been talking with Forestry Minister toddenmac play

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Speaker 4: on this issue, and this was actually a policy under

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Speaker 4: the previous coalition government with the New Zealand First, dating

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Speaker 4: back to when Shane Jones was Minister most of Forestry.

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Speaker 4: A proposed policy at that point but never quite got

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Speaker 4: over the line unfortunately. So yeah, we just sort of

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Speaker 4: saw with interest and congratulations to the to wall. It's

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Speaker 4: a very sensible decision. We believed to be doing so,

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Speaker 4: and we just thought, you know, equally sensible to be

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Speaker 4: specifying that the government government buildings are done with wood.

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Speaker 3: It possible, Yeah, because I carpets one thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: but actually the structure of a building is quite a

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Speaker 3: different one. Do you know, like how much more expensive

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Speaker 3: it would be for a building?

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Speaker 4: It varies ry you know, some some of the costs

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Speaker 4: are more expensive, but the production times are quicker. Timber

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Speaker 4: buildings are typically quicker to built up them concrete and

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Speaker 4: steel buildings. Now we're talking cross eliminated timber type structures there,

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Speaker 4: you know, so it evens out, and particularly when you

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Speaker 4: start taking them into account the benefits of the carbon

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Speaker 4: sequestration that timber buildings offer, you know, it locks up

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Speaker 4: all that carb and that trees have sucked up over

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Speaker 4: the thirty year lifespan. It locks it up for sort

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Speaker 4: of fifty years or more.

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Speaker 3: Are there are there other limitations with timber, like can

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Speaker 3: you only go so high?

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Speaker 4: Skies of a limit based Ryan?

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Speaker 22: You know.

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Speaker 4: The in alex Canada there's now CLT buildings in excess

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Speaker 4: of twenty stories. I think there's some in excess of

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Speaker 4: twenty five stories. I think it is in Australia now.

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Speaker 4: So so really the sky is the limit in terms

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Speaker 4: of what can be built using would what.

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Speaker 3: Are they and what are they telling you what, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: what's the what's the line from the government to you

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Speaker 3: guys at the moment, just not a priority. We'll get

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Speaker 3: back to you.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Largely saying not a priority in the line we have

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Speaker 4: had is that it's too difficult in competition reasons of

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Speaker 4: competition or throttling competition. They don't want to be seen

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Speaker 4: doing it. Was the line that we've been told over

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Speaker 4: it over a period. So yeah, it was just with

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Speaker 4: a raised by grad that we saw the Wall announcement,

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Speaker 4: so it clearly can be done.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, appreciate your time, thanks for coming on the program.

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Speaker 3: That's Jeff Ilot. He's the New Zealand Timber Industry Federation director,

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Speaker 3: wanting the same deal the Wall guy's got basically ten

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Speaker 3: up to six. Ryan Bridge, you would have heard the

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Speaker 3: rumors by now about Krmala Harris Keen to be governor

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Speaker 3: of California because obviously she misses out to Trump, you know, embarrassed, defeated, downtrodden,

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Speaker 3: whatever it might be, not feeling that great after the

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Speaker 3: defeat to Donald Trump, the guy she basically called a

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Speaker 3: Nazi right beats her. Quite embarrassing anyway, There's just no

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Speaker 3: stopping these guys. They just once they get a taste,

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Speaker 3: a suck of the sav they just want the bottle.

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Speaker 3: So Gavin Newsom, who's the current governor of California, he

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Speaker 3: fancies himself for around at the White House. So you're

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Speaker 3: likely to see these two actually just job swap. So

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Speaker 3: he will become I mean, this has not happened yet

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Speaker 3: by any stretch, but he wants to become the Democratic candidate,

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Speaker 3: and she apparently quite wants to be the governor now

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Speaker 3: that she's been sort of turfed out of Washington. Here's

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Speaker 3: the interesting thing about Kamala Harris that I found out

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Speaker 3: today were just as I was doing a little peruse.

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Speaker 3: She's going to the Gold Coast in Australia to headline

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Speaker 3: a real estate conference. I know, how bizarre. How much

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Speaker 3: are they paying her? They won't say so the conference

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Speaker 3: and not Actually, if there are any real estate agents

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Speaker 3: going to this, you're in for a treat. It's happening

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Speaker 3: next month. It's the Australasian Real Estate Conference on the

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Speaker 3: Gold Coast. Kamala Harris, former you know, Vice President, wanted

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Speaker 3: to be leader of the Free World, now speaking to

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Speaker 3: real estate agents on the Gold Coast in one month

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Speaker 3: twelve after six News Talk zb Barry here.

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Speaker 1: Next, it's the Heather Dupless Allen Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on my Heart Radio empowered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talk Zebbie.

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Speaker 3: Coming up. It's just gone quarter past six on News

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Speaker 3: Talks heb coming up in just a few moments. I'm

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Speaker 3: going to talk about Prince Harry. You know, he's in

1443
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Speaker 3: court try and get more bodyguards out of the Brits. Well,

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Speaker 3: he's turned up somewhere else, which is quite unusual. I

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Speaker 3: think we'll get to that shortly. Right now, Barry Soper here,

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Speaker 3: wrapping the week that was BEZ. Welcome back.

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Speaker 18: It's nice to be here for the final time. Now

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Speaker 18: for the next three months.

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Speaker 3: Right, one last hurrah for us, Barry, Let's make it

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Speaker 3: a good one. Now, twelve billion dollars. We did tell

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Speaker 3: everybody this was going to happen, but now we've had

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Speaker 3: its confirmed. It's going to get to two percent of

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Speaker 3: GDP on defense spending up twelve billion over four years, and.

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Speaker 18: Nine billion of that is new spending. So next month's

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Speaker 18: budget will tell us exactly how they're going to afford that.

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Speaker 18: You know, this comes at a time of course when

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Speaker 18: the country can I'll afford additional money but you know,

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Speaker 18: if you want to be a member of the international community,

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Speaker 18: you've got to spend on defense. It's your security in

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Speaker 18: this part of the world. And we've seen the world

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Speaker 18: on a precipice over the past several months, and not

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Speaker 18: helped of course by the tariff war now being embarked

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Speaker 18: on by the American President. So yeah, I think certainly

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Speaker 18: this money should be well spent. It depends on how

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Speaker 18: good the craft. For example, they buy to replace the

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Speaker 18: seven five sevens now they're the aircraft that have constantly

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Speaker 18: broken down when the Prime Minister has been on them

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Speaker 18: traveling around the world with trade delegations. So they are

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Speaker 18: being replaced, and many would say not before time.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of trade and speaking of missions, Luxon's been on

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Speaker 3: a bit of one in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: So this is his way of trying to control the narrative.

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Speaker 3: You're not going to bash Trump, so what else can

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Speaker 3: you do. You go out there and you say we're

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Speaker 3: talking free trade with our partners.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, And interestingly, Winston Peters, as we mentioned earlier, seem

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Speaker 18: to be a bit unsure about that, saying it was

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Speaker 18: suggesting it was premature. But you know, we've got to

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Speaker 18: cover our backs in all of this. I mean, we

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Speaker 18: like the rest of the world at the moment, except

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Speaker 18: for China of course, are facing ten percent tariffs, so

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Speaker 18: we've got to look at possible trading blocks and the

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Speaker 18: cpp TA that was started by New Zealand that obviously

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Speaker 18: can include others and even China is talking about looking

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Speaker 18: at it now. And you imagine if China came aboard there.

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Speaker 18: I don't think Trump would like it very much.

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Speaker 3: No, but that's the opposite of what they want exactly.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, and the Prime Minister has also spoken to the

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Speaker 18: head of the European Union twenty seven countries there. You

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Speaker 18: know we, you know we trading blocks are the way

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Speaker 18: that the world could go in response to America effectively

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Speaker 18: isolating itself when it comes to trade.

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Speaker 3: Now, Tamitha Paul and the Sensible Sentencing Trust billboards were

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Speaker 3: a bit of light relief this week barring.

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Speaker 18: Aren't they fantastic?

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Speaker 3: They're quite funny, you.

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Speaker 18: Know, police defunded up police. A lot has been made

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Speaker 18: of it in the House and Tamatha Paul is very unrepentant. Interestingly,

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Speaker 18: the Greens didn't complain about the posters or the billboards.

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Speaker 18: They're very good and very professional looking, and it looks

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Speaker 18: as though the Green Party has actually advocated that. Now

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Speaker 18: the billboards were put in both the central electorates of

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Speaker 18: two biggest cities, in Wellington where Tamitha Paul is the

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Speaker 18: electorate MP, and in Auckland Central where Chloe Swallbreck is

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01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:19,560
Speaker 18: the MP. Now the stand by the Greens is patently ridiculous.

1506
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 18: They haven't distanced themselves from Tamotha Tamotha Paul's claim that

1507
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 18: people feel uneasy when they see police on the beat.

1508
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 18: Polls that come out this week show the exact opposite

1509
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 18: to be true, and big numbers people do like to

1510
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 18: see more cops on the beat and feel much more

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01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,639
Speaker 18: safer as a result.

1512
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Speaker 3: Barrier to finish the week, the good wool people of

1513
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 3: New Zealand have managed to get their their you know

1514
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 3: name and lights with the agreement between the Zealand First

1515
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 3: and National and they will get some preferential treatment in

1516
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 3: government contracts. But then today you have the Wood people

1517
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 3: coming out saying, you know, so we want it to,

1518
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 3: we want it to. So have they created a precedent

1519
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 3: they didn't want to?

1520
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 18: It is the problem, isn't it? In picking favorites. And

1521
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 18: that's what the government's done here at saying a wall

1522
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 18: over synthetic. Well you know what about all the synthetic

1523
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 18: carpet manufacturers as well. I mean they'll be saying, well,

1524
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 18: hang on, you can't pick favorites off you're a government

1525
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 18: and you can see the argument there. But also if

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,840
Speaker 18: you are a government department, I think you should be

1527
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 18: looking at our natural product are the stuff that we

1528
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 18: do export usually. And similarly, when you talk on that vein,

1529
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 18: I think we should be looking at our bankers. For example,

1530
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 18: the government banks with Westpac. Why not recapitalize Keiwi Bank

1531
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 18: and start our official banking with that particular bank rather

1532
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 18: than an Australian bank.

1533
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 3: So you know, I mean you could go on exactly.

1534
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 18: It opens the door to so many areas.

1535
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 3: All right, Berry, good to how it's been lovely working

1536
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 3: with you over the last couple of months. I very

1537
01:17:58,560 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 3: much enjoyed doing that again.

1538
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 18: Yeah, it to be nicer, Ryan, And well don't out

1539
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 18: see you back again at some stage.

1540
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: Thanks, Barry, appreciate it. Barry Soper, senior political correspondent at

1541
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 3: News Talks hereb it's just gone twenty after six. Next

1542
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about Prince Harry where he's been after

1543
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 3: being in court trying to get bodyguards. Kind of a

1544
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 3: strange place for him to be. And I'll read you

1545
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 3: the quotes from Phil Gough. That sounds boring, doesn't it.

1546
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 3: I'll read you quotes from Phil Goth. They are interesting,

1547
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 3: I promise, just because of how far he goes. Obviously

1548
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: he was felt like he was wrapped up in a

1549
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 3: ball and chain over at Chathamhouse in London. Even though

1550
01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 3: it sounded bad what he said, he could have gone

1551
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: much further, and he has at Auckland University. So I'll

1552
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 3: tell you just how far. Twenty one after six.

1553
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,800
Speaker 1: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour

1554
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: with Ryan Bridge and Clar's Insurance and investments, Grew your wealth,

1555
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: Protect Your Future News.

1556
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: Talks, edb twenty three after six. Peter Lewis on the

1557
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 3: China Front out of Hong Kong for US just after

1558
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 3: the news at six point thirty. Right now, Phil Goff

1559
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 3: for Prince Harry. Prince Harry or Phil Goff? Who do

1560
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 3: we want to do first? Who do we who do

1561
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: annoys us more? Today? Let's go with Phil Goff. Normally

1562
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 3: it would be Prince Harry hands down easy, but today

1563
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 3: it's Phil GoF. So he goes over to London. He's

1564
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 3: how representative in London and he says those silly things

1565
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 3: at Chatham House and gets himself in trouble, gets fired,

1566
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 3: comes home, does a media tour. Everyone under the Sun

1567
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 3: does an interview with him, and then he goes last

1568
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,640
Speaker 3: night to Auckland University, our University of Auckland, does a

1569
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 3: speaking panel hosted by the university and says he has

1570
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:42,560
Speaker 3: no regrets. He said, I relish the freedom that I

1571
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 3: now have to say what I believe. This is Phil Goff,

1572
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 3: the self appointed apostle of moral compass of foreign affairs.

1573
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: He's come out and he said, I now relish the

1574
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 3: freedom that I have. He said, I'm sitting there describing

1575
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:57,479
Speaker 3: what happened in London. I'm sitting there in my role

1576
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: as High Commissioner, trying to be diplomatic but also desperately

1577
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 3: not wanting to be an enabler. Honestly, God mate, you

1578
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: just he said that the United States was no longer

1579
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 3: a trusted ally that is becoming an increasingly unsustainable position

1580
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 3: in my view, talking there about our relationship with America

1581
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 3: and Donald Trump. I mean, honestly, he is like it

1582
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 3: all though that the democratically elected leader of the country.

1583
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 3: He won't be president forever. You don't cut your nose

1584
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 3: off spite your face. I wouldn't have thought anyway, that's God.

1585
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:37,880
Speaker 3: This is Harry. So Harry's been in the UK and

1586
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 3: has been in court and he's trying to get more

1587
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,200
Speaker 3: money for bodyguards out of the taxpayer over there. And

1588
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 3: so his argument as I look, you know, we receive

1589
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 3: threats and we deserve to have protection and et cetera,

1590
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: et cetera. Now, after he finishes there, he flies to

1591
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 3: Ukraine to do I don't know about you, but my

1592
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 3: first thought was, you want bodyguards, You want people to

1593
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 3: pay for your bodyguards over here because you're worried about

1594
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: your safety. And then you fly to a war zone,

1595
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,560
Speaker 3: you know, just optics, that's all. And I get it.

1596
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 3: He served in the army, and I don't take that

1597
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 3: away from him. He was heavily involved with the Invictus

1598
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 3: Games all of that stuff, but just the optis seemed

1599
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 3: a little strange, you know, from one to the other. Anyway,

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01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 3: there you go. That's still golf and Prince Harry. In

1601
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 3: about a minute twenty six minutes after six.

1602
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 2: Now you're one, you're on.

1603
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 3: News Talk, said B. We'll get to Peter Lewis out

1604
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 3: of Hong Kong coming up just after the news at

1605
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 3: six thirty, and we'll get to Gavin Gray as well,

1606
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 3: he's our UK correspondent. I'm interested to know what's happening

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01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,799
Speaker 3: with China one hundred and forty five percent tariff?

1608
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 21: Right?

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01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 3: Do you even bother sending stuff at that rate?

1610
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 14: Do you?

1611
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 3: I mean, what are you literally what are they doing

1612
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: with their shipments that would otherwise be going to the

1613
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 3: United States, which is their largest trading partner. Don't forget

1614
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 3: for the US, it's only the third. China is only

1615
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 3: the third. For China, US is number one. But at

1616
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty five percent, do you just leave

1617
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 3: it all there on the dock? Try and seem it

1618
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 3: somewhere else. Peter Lewis next on news Talk.

1619
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Speaker 14: Set by myself and gop back like youself.

1620
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,919
Speaker 2: Weak if you can't tell.

1621
01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 9: This, said makes train.

1622
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1623
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 1: The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Insurance and Investments,

1624
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:50,360
Speaker 1: Grow your wealth, protect your future, News Talk seed blest.

1625
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,680
Speaker 2: Will it lecords.

1626
01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 28: I can't remember everything we said, Bob, we said it all.

1627
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: It saw me that you whizzle a maddy even start

1628
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 2: to damn me.

1629
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 3: Twenty five away from seven, you're on news talks to you.

1630
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 3: We'll get to Gavin Gray out of the UK shortly.

1631
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 3: I just realized normally about this time. Because you spend

1632
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 3: a lot of time staring at computer screens in your day,

1633
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 3: you will do that at your work or if you're

1634
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 3: on a phone or on a computer, whatever you're doing,

1635
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 3: and your eyes get a bit sore. I promise Laura,

1636
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't tell the story because it's quite boring. But

1637
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: who cares. It's Friday evening, you know, get it. Pull

1638
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: yourself a drink. Let's sit down and have a chat.

1639
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:32,680
Speaker 3: Today I had an eyebath. Didn't you want to have

1640
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 3: had one of those before? Incredible experience. So one of

1641
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 3: the problems I have is wearing contact lenses, and this

1642
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: is where it gets boring. Pour another drink. I have

1643
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 3: contact lenses and for fourteen hours a day I keep

1644
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 3: them in and I keep them in for seven days

1645
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:48,960
Speaker 3: a week because I lost my glasses. You're not meant

1646
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: to do that. It's meant to be five to six

1647
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 3: days a week maximum, and it's meant to be eight

1648
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 3: to ten hours a day. So I'm way over the limit.

1649
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 3: You know, I'm drunk in charge of my contact lenses.

1650
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: And what happens is during the night I wake up

1651
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 3: my eyes are so dry. I have to put eye

1652
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 3: drops in and so my what are they called not

1653
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 3: ophthalmologist optometrist today Grace, if you're listening, what a delightful experience.

1654
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:20,160
Speaker 3: It was just bathed my eyeballs in a sayline solution

1655
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:24,919
Speaker 3: I have. My eyes have never been reborn. It's a rebirth.

1656
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 3: It feels amazing, so Grace, thank you for that. And

1657
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 3: if anyone else suffers from this sort of affliction, well, one,

1658
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 3: don't we contact vensors all the time? That's dumb. But

1659
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:37,519
Speaker 3: two go shut yourself, treat yourself to an eyebath. Twenty

1660
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 3: four away from seven, Peter Lewis is out Asia business

1661
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 3: correspondent with US.

1662
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 2: Now, Hi, Peter, good evening, Ryan.

1663
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 3: Now what is the latest from China? This is the

1664
01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 3: trade war one hundred and forty five percent higher than

1665
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 3: what you know, one hundred and twenty five we thought,

1666
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 3: which is bad enough. What's the latest from Beijing?

1667
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:58,480
Speaker 6: Well, we're waiting to see if they actually now retaliate

1668
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 6: to that. To be quite honest, it doesn't matter anymore.

1669
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 6: When you have tariffs of one hundred and forty five percent,

1670
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter if you make them one hundred and

1671
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 6: fifty two hundred three hundred. In effect, trade between the

1672
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:15,560
Speaker 6: US and China has come to an end. It just

1673
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 6: becomes impossible with those levels of tariffs for companies to

1674
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 6: be able to export between the two countries and still

1675
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 6: make money. So there's going to be a lot of

1676
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 6: consequences from that. If the two sides, someone doesn't bleak

1677
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 6: first and back down. In terms of China, it's going

1678
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 6: to have a big impact on their economy. Could shave

1679
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 6: maybe two to three percent of a GDP, so that

1680
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 6: will slow Chinese growth from five percent maybe down to

1681
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 6: as much as two percent. That will feel like a

1682
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 6: recession in China. Obviously the economy is still growing, but

1683
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 6: such a dramatic slowdown that the people of China will

1684
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 6: feel it. But they're being very very sanguine about this.

1685
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 6: They're sort of very supportive of their governments. They think

1686
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 6: Trump is crazy. They like the idea that the government

1687
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 6: is standing up to him. And not backing down, and

1688
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 6: they feel like they're all sort of in it together.

1689
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 6: And President Chi Jinping is really presenting himself as the

1690
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 6: grown up in the room. This is his opportunity to

1691
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 6: really stand up and say, look, we are now the

1692
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 6: defenders of globalization, of global trade, and we're all in

1693
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:35,799
Speaker 6: this together, and let's stand together on this interesting that approach.

1694
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 3: They were trying to get other countries on board, and

1695
01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 3: I saw that they were rebuffed by Australia during the

1696
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: election campaign there, but trying to get other countries on

1697
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,759
Speaker 3: board to form this sort of coalition of free trade.

1698
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: Do you think that's been somewhat undermined by the fact

1699
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 3: that Trump has lowered the rate for everybody else and

1700
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 3: done a ninety day pause. Their incentive to join China

1701
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,080
Speaker 3: has now been reduced.

1702
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 6: Exactly. I mean, if you take countries like Malaysia, for example,

1703
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 6: Malaysia is standing up as the representative of Southeast Asia

1704
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 6: and wants to go to Washington and negotiate with Trump.

1705
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 6: And now Southeast Asia is China's biggest market, but they

1706
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 6: clearly want to go and try and do some sort

1707
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 6: of deal. Vietnam has offered to remove all tariffs on

1708
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 6: US imports, although strangely that was rebuffed by Peter Navarro

1709
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 6: who said that wasn't going to be enough. But nevertheless,

1710
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,280
Speaker 6: they do want to they do want to negotiate. And

1711
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 6: also China has rather reduced its influence with some of

1712
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 6: these countries by its aggressive stance in the South China Sea.

1713
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,439
Speaker 6: So Vietnam, for example, has a lot of disputes on

1714
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 6: various islands with China that has really disrupted that relationship

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Speaker 6: and made it more difficult for countries like Vietnam to

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Speaker 6: align themselves too closely with China. So even there may

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Speaker 6: be some sort of reconciliation between the two, they clearly

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Speaker 6: want to be part of the US orbit as well,

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Speaker 6: and they want to try and do some sort of

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Speaker 6: trade deal with the US.

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Speaker 3: Now Sujin is going to hit to Southeast Asia. Is

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Speaker 3: this a response to the trade war or is this

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Speaker 3: a pre planned trip?

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Speaker 6: It is partly in response to the trade war. He's

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Speaker 6: going to Malaysia, Vietnam, and Cambodia, so you know, three

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Speaker 6: sort of key countries. Now, Cambodia is an easy visit

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Speaker 6: for him because Cambodia and China are very close, they

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Speaker 6: have good relations. Vietnam and Malaysia, as I've just said,

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Speaker 6: are going to be more difficult because of geopolitical reasons

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Speaker 6: and also for trade as well. But Xijinpin wants to

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Speaker 6: present himself now as being the sort of the leader

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Speaker 6: of global free trade. Theres the supporter of globalization. If

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Speaker 6: America doesn't want to do it anymore, then he's saying,

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Speaker 6: will do it, China will do it, and to find

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Speaker 6: ways in effect of cutting sort of the US out

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Speaker 6: of the trade relationship, building up relationships elsewhere in the

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Speaker 6: global South, in Southeast Asia, in the Middle East, and

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Speaker 6: they're saying that, look, you, our exports are about fifteen

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Speaker 6: percent of GDP, but US exports are only about sixteen

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Speaker 6: percent of that sort of trading relationship. So we can

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Speaker 6: do without the US, we can build up relations elsewhere.

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Speaker 6: So that is very much part of the strategy of

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Speaker 6: China to try and mitigate the risks from this.

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Speaker 3: Just finally, the Asian Development Banks had something to say

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Speaker 3: about the terrorists and what they might do to some

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Speaker 3: of those smaller countries, and we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, little countries like Cambodia who are

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Speaker 3: never going to be able to buy as much from

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Speaker 3: the States as the States are selling to them. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's just completely impractical. What's the Asian Development Bank saying.

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Speaker 6: Well, they're saying the same thing that this is really

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01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 6: going to have a very big impact on poorer countries

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01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 6: which been hit very, very hard by these tarots. I

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01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 6: mean we're talking about Cambodia, Vietnam with tariffs close to

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Speaker 6: fifty percent, miandmar small islands in the Pacific, Vanuatu for example,

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01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 6: all being hit with very high tarrets. And the reason

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01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 6: why is because of the strange way in which Trump

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01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 6: has calculated what he says are basically tariffs, and it's

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Speaker 6: done by basically dividing the trade deficit by the total

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Speaker 6: amount of trade. So if you're a country like Madagascar

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Speaker 6: for example, that in effect just exports one product to

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01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 6: the US, you're going to have a fairly large trade

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Speaker 6: surplus compared to your overall trade. You get whacked really hard.

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Speaker 6: And there's nothing that these countries can do to try

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Speaker 6: and turn those trade surpluses into deficits. As you say,

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Speaker 6: they just can't afford to buy the sort of expensive

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01:30:58,640 --> 01:31:02,839
Speaker 6: products cells. So this will have a very big impact

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Speaker 6: on the on the GDP of these smaller countries. Luckily

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Speaker 6: they've been removed for now, although they still have ten

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Speaker 6: percent tarots on them, which for some of these poor

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Speaker 6: nations is still quite a lot. But there really is

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01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 6: very little they can do in any negotiation with Trump

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01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:24,640
Speaker 6: to try and turn their trade surpluses into either a

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Speaker 6: balance trade or a deficit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really tough position for them. Paid to appreciate your

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Speaker 3: time as always, Peter Lewis, Asian Business Correspondent. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to Gavin Gray in the UK next seventeen to seven croaching.

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Speaker 2: The numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 1: It's Ryan Bridge with the Business Hour and Mays Insurance

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Speaker 1: and Investments, Grew your Wealth, Protect Your Future News Dogs eNB.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen to seven on News Talk CV Gold spiking and

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Speaker 3: price again after the Asian cheers are down. We'll get

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Speaker 3: to that in just a seecond right now. Gavin Gray's

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Speaker 3: here at our UK correspondent, Gavin Good evening. Either are

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Speaker 3: so obviously right now as we stand looking to the future,

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Speaker 3: things aren't looking rosie. But if you look back a

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Speaker 3: month or two, actually the UK was doing all right.

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Speaker 26: Yes, so we've just had the official figures for the

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Speaker 26: economic growth and it was higher than expected in February

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01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,920
Speaker 26: much higher. The experts have predicted growth of point one percent,

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Speaker 26: in other words, pretty much stagnation. But actually the economy

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01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,759
Speaker 26: expanded by zero point five percent, half of one percent,

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Speaker 26: with the services sector having a very strong month in particular,

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01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 26: and better than expected figures will do the government a

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01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:36,120
Speaker 26: huge favor as the UK economy braces itself now for

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Speaker 26: the impact of those tariffs from and going into the US.

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01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,759
Speaker 26: So the UK's pen hit with this blanket ten percent.

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Speaker 26: What next is the big question, and it looks like

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Speaker 26: this little boost will be certainly welcome for the Chancellor.

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Speaker 26: Rachel reeves manufacturing, electronics, pharmaceutical businesses performing well. The car

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01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:00,040
Speaker 26: industry also picking up after its recent poor performance. And

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01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,679
Speaker 26: so that said Lotus, the luxury car brand maker based

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01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 26: in Norfolk, to the east of England, laying off about

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Speaker 26: a sixth of its workforce and in part blaming US tariff.

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01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 26: So not an entirely clean bill of health. We'll see

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Speaker 26: where we go from here.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of bills, the British textpayer picking up the tip

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Speaker 3: for four hundred and fifty million pounds in military support.

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Speaker 3: This is for Kiev, in comes a here of quite

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Speaker 3: a crucial meeting.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 26: So the UK and Germany hosting a meeting of fifty

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Speaker 26: nations in Brussels. The aim is to pile pressure on

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Speaker 26: Vladimir boot into get out of Ukraine. Let's do the

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Speaker 26: package first. That includes funding for hundreds of thousands of drones,

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Speaker 26: they of course have proven to be absolutely essential in

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Speaker 26: this war against Russia. Also spending on anti tank mines

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01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 26: and repairs to military vehicles, some of the vihkers they

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01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 26: simply aren't able to use at the moment because they're

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Speaker 26: out of action with them at various repairs being needed.

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Speaker 26: About three hundred and fifty million pound seven hundred and

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Speaker 26: thirty million New Zealand dollars will be provided by the UK,

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Speaker 26: with extra funding from Norway via the UK led International

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Speaker 26: Fund from Ukraine, so it's a pretty big chunk of

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01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,839
Speaker 26: money going their way. Comes at a time when Ukraine

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Speaker 26: is saying that Russia has already begun its spring offensive

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Speaker 26: and that yes, the UK and Germany hosting this meeting.

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Speaker 26: It's traditionally been hosted by the US Defense Secretary until

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01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 26: Donald Trump became president in January. Since then, in a

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Speaker 26: clear sign that America is stepping back from European security matters.

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Speaker 26: It's been left to others to take over the chair.

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Speaker 26: Current chair is the British Defense Secretary and they are

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01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,360
Speaker 26: really looking at how to make life a lot more

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01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 26: uncomfortable for Vladimir Putin as this war shows no sign

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Speaker 26: of coming to an end.

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Speaker 3: Kevin just finally Prada. We love a Prida hambag, don't we,

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01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 3: But we also love a Vasachi. I don't even know

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01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 3: if they do hambags, probably more heels and stuff. I

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01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know what any of them do.

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01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 3: But they're joining forces.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 26: All I know about them is very expensive and very

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01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 26: very popular joining, so I don't know what they make.

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01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 26: The joining force is to secure a business estimated to

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01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:21,799
Speaker 26: be worth about two and a half billion New Zealand dollars,

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01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 26: and Prada is the one that's taking over the smaller

1847
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 26: arrival of Versace, saying they're going to continue Versaci's legacy,

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01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 26: celebrating and reinterpreting its bold and timeless esthetic. The Produc

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01:35:35,680 --> 01:35:40,000
Speaker 26: group already owns several other luxury brands, including the footwear

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01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 26: brand Church is very popular here in the UK and

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01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 26: Mew as well, so this is a very big deal. Indeed,

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01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 26: the price Prada, however, agreed to pay for Versaci is

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01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 26: significantly lower than when a holdings company bought Forsaci in

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01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 26: twenty eighteen, so significant decline in that and the deal

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01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 26: will includes a debt pile, as Vasachi has been operating

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Speaker 26: at a loss amid a slowdown in demand for luxury

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Speaker 26: fashion worldwide.

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Speaker 3: Gavin, appreciate your time. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent, just

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Speaker 3: gone nine minutes away from seven. Our price to gold.

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Speaker 3: By the way, this will get you some new Vasachi

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01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 3: Prida Hills whatever they are three two hundred and six

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Speaker 3: American dollars. That's up forty five point two percent on

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01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 3: a year ago. Sorry on beginning of the year, one

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01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 3: point four to three percent today, that's another new record.

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Speaker 3: Nine to seven.

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Speaker 1: It's the Heather to Pice Alan Drive Full Show podcast

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Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio powered by News Talk ZBB.

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Speaker 3: News Talk ZB. It is seven minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 3: Great to have your company this evening, as it always

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Speaker 3: is Friday night. Heather is back with you Monday. I

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Speaker 3: know she's really looking forward to reconnecting with you all.

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Speaker 3: It's been a couple of months off for her. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: she's had a lot going on in her life, so

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Speaker 3: she'll be stoked to get back and speak to you

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Speaker 3: on Monday. I very much enjoyed being here, very much

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Speaker 3: enjoyed being with you. It's only been a couple months,

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Speaker 3: but it feels like a lot longer. Not in a

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01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 3: bad way. But one of the people who I always

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Speaker 3: talk about is the executive producer of the program, Laura,

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Speaker 3: who never talks for some reason, has never wanted to

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Speaker 3: come on the show, and it's just walked in and

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Speaker 3: sat in front of a microphone. Hello, Ryan, Hello, it speaks.

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Speaker 20: I don't do this ever.

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Speaker 29: Look, I just wanted to take the opportunity to say

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Speaker 29: thank you so much for being with us for the

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Speaker 29: last few months. It's been an absolute pleasure. It has

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Speaker 29: been so much fun. I didn't actually know you before

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Speaker 29: you came to do this, and I was a bit

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Speaker 29: sort of you know, the relationship between a host and

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Speaker 29: a producer is quite intense sometimes, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 29: I wonder how this Ryan's going to go. But it's

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Speaker 29: been an absolute pleasure. We've had so much fun. You've

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Speaker 29: slutted in so seamlessly. I thank your style, your warmth,

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Speaker 29: your energy has been amazing, and thank you so much

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Speaker 29: for everything you brought to the show. I can see

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Speaker 29: for the lasts people have been texting in telling how

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Speaker 29: so much they're going to miss you. But of course

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01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:07,960
Speaker 29: you're not going anywhere. You're going back to your own show.

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Speaker 29: They've given you one day off because that's how nice

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Speaker 29: the bosses are at newstok zed B, but from Tuesday

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Speaker 29: you'll be back on ZB at five am.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, well, thank you, Laura. I was going to try

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Speaker 3: to think of something nice to say to you earlier. Oh, thanks, No,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: You have you are.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely if I was to pick a top three in

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Speaker 3: terms of people that I've worked with who are very

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01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 3: very very able and competent but also very funny, you'd

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Speaker 3: be right up there now. I very much enjoyed working

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Speaker 3: with you, and you'd run a very very tight ship

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Speaker 3: around here and it shows so no nonsense. No, it's

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Speaker 3: been great working with you, Laura, very much appreciated having

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Speaker 3: you at my side. And Andy, who's gone a bit quiet,

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Speaker 3: who's pushing the buttons. Probably I'm just wondering if I'm

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Speaker 3: in one of those top three, to be fair, definitely

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Speaker 3: not Andy. Okay, that's the filling guy. The filling guys

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Speaker 3: here for one day. No, Andy, love working with you.

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Speaker 3: Andy Duff, great guy. Thanks everyone. I'll see you next

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Speaker 3: Tuesday at five in the morning. And Hither is back

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Speaker 3: with you Monday here at news Talk said be Oh my.

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Speaker 14: Good lord, trouble, pull me up a double shadow this time,

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Speaker 14: send on me and Jacks got it.

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Speaker 2: There's the party.

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Speaker 14: Downtown near Few Street. You everybody, Yeah, the barkey everybody

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Speaker 14: everybody by.

1926
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Speaker 18: He calls it, tolls to the three to the floor.

1927
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 14: When it's last, Carl and he kick us out at

1928
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 14: dn skin kind of lay.

1929
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 3: But the ladies want some more.

1930
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 14: Oh my good lord, tell him drinks, so tumble pup

1931
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 14: me up a double shadow with then on mean they've

1932
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:06,120
Speaker 14: got a history. There's a part of downtown near Fishtory.

1933
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 14: Everybody had the barget don't.

1934
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 18: Party duhaut lisday.

1935
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:13,160
Speaker 27: Then on me.

1936
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 18: You got the bottom of the bottom man.

1937
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 2: Everybody had bart, everybody had.

1938
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:36,960
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1939
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1940
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