1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Now, students are struggling to find summer work with enormous 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: amounts of competition in the job market and businesses not 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: taking on as many applicants. At the moment, retail New 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Zealands's retailers had seen a much higher caliber of people 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: applying for jobs. Kate Ross is the founder of Swivel Careers, 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: which helps seventeen to twenty five year olds find work, 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: and she's with us now. 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 2: Hey, Kate, hi, how's it going? 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Very good? Thank you? What's going on here? Why kids 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: finding it hard to find jobs? 11 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Well, the economy right now is just so tough. So 12 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: even people with qualifications are you know, are finding it 13 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: hard to find work. So, you know, further down the 14 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: food chain, when you've got students who've got far less experience, 15 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: there's less opportunities and. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: So as a result, you've got people people further up 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: the age brackets, presumably further up the experience chain, they're 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: unable to find work there coming down, pushing the kids out. 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And there's just not enough work out 20 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: there right now with the economy that's been so slow 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: all year. The opportunities even for you know, the retailers 22 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: of hospitality that's all slowed down the next where you know, 23 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: the students out of school get their their weekend and 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: their holiday work. So with university students now leaving and 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: less opportunities to go into corporate work, they're unfortunately having 26 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: to fall back onto that retail works, which also isn't there. 27 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: So there's a really big group of individuals that are 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: struggling to find employment. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Worst you've ever seen. 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: I think it's right up there. Like I managed a 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 2: company through the recession, it was different because obviously in 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: the recession there was no jobs for anyone, and there 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: was organizations just closing left, right and center. But for 34 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: kids right now, for students right now, to find work, 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: it's really really tough. There's hundreds and hundreds of applicants 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: applying through second training just for that one role. Yeah. 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: Now, I mean we're talking about in some of the cases, 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: right we will be talking about school aged kids. It's 39 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: not going to break their lives as it if they 40 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: don't find to summer job. But I imagine for some of them, 41 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: are you're getting up there in the twenty five year 42 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: twenty five year old that is actually quite significant, isn't it. 43 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: It's really significant. And what we're also seeing is there 44 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: are a lot of people that are university and groups 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: and just thinking, do you know what, I'm just going 46 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: to head to Australia hoping there's work over and Setney 47 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: in Melbourne because there's nothing here. And that's how they're 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: thinking at that young age. Normally we get at least 49 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: a couple of good years in the New Zealand market 50 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: before they decide to do their oe, but they're now thinking, right, 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: there's packs. I'm thinking, you know what, there's nothing here 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: for me, So I'm just going to go across the 53 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 2: burch and see if I can find something. 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: Hey, Kate, so I've got a text you saying actually, 55 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: students are looking in the wrong place for work. I'm 56 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: a student myself. There's plenty of jobs and ag and 57 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: horticulture picking fruit and such. 58 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 2: So say that Christian again, throw I must it. 59 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: So somebody's text in saying, actually there are plenty of 60 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: jobs available in agriculture and horticulture doing things like pecking fruit. 61 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean, yes, there's always that need because obviously at 62 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: this time of year with the summer coming on, but 63 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: that is the if when you be your career, then 64 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: great and it's a role that you can get as 65 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: a summer role. But not everybody lives in the Hawk's 66 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 2: Bay or lives in those fruit picking districts. So yes, 67 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: there's there's probably the opportunity there, but that's not going 68 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: to help everybody. There's a lot of people out there 69 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 2: and cities and small towns that rely on that hospitality, retail, 70 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: tartwork to keep them going in a little bit petty cash. 71 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, Kate, thank you for talking us through 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to appreciate it is Kate Ross Swivel Careers. For more 73 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to news talks 74 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 75 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.