1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: If and the census is gon Burger. The government scrapping 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: the census and will instead use data it already collects 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: through agencies like IID and Immigration New Zealand. Plus there 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: will be smaller annual surveys to fill in the blank. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: Shane that reti is the Minister for Statistics. 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: High Shane, thank you all to Heather. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Will you be able to replace all of the information 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: with other information? 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: No, we won't be able to place all of the information, 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 2: but the essential information for census we will be able 11 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 2: to gather through the gather through the three collection sources, 12 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 2: administrative data, and then an annual community attribute survey which 13 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: will go out to about five percent of households, and 14 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: then targeted surveying for those hard to reach communities, those 15 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: that we might not even reach with a conventional census. 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Is what we're going to do. 17 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So what kind of stuff are you going to 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: will fall out of. 19 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: This or it'll be things like languages spoken, really hard 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: to determine that for administrative data, what we're working hard 21 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: on at the moment is some of the level three 22 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: and Level four ethnicities. That's kind of hard together as well. 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: But here's the advantage. By pushing out the census to 24 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight twenty thirty, we're now able to give 25 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: some direction to other agencies of hey, look, we're light 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: in this space. Can you please shift up a gear 27 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: towards this information that you do collect, but we need 28 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: it collected in the style of this type by the state. 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: Okay. So for example, with like income information IID will 30 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: obviously have that does is IID IID and other government 31 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: departments sharing that kind of information with Statistics New Zealand. 32 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: Is it easy for them to collate it and send 33 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: it over. 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 2: We've got good robust mechanisms. ID is a good example. 35 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: There is a good pathway with Stats New Zealand. And 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: this is really important because as part of an economic 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: growth agenda we need really good economic data, which is 38 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 2: the other part of the announcement today. 39 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: Are you worried at all about government departments not wanting 40 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: to share information? 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 2: Look under the Statistics Act there actually is a requirement. 42 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Yeh. But do you remember there was a case about 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: three years ago where ordering Atomitiki refuse to share information with. 44 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: Stats I do and that's certainly not the will of 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 2: this government and the CEE of Stats New Zealand is 46 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 2: bringing together all the other cees from the relevant agencies 47 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: to make it clear what their expectation is. 48 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Is Stat's in Z up to the job. Shane. 49 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: Look, it's fair to say that there's been some fallovers 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 2: with Status New Zealand and so actually part of our 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: job it also to build trust and to build quality 52 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 2: in Status New Zealand. I believe the skills are there 53 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 2: and certainly on this timeframe that we have that they'll 54 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: be able to rebuild their reputation and deliver quality. So yes, 55 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: that is part of the work either. 56 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: Shane, thank you so much. Make appreciate it. That's Shane, 57 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: that reci the Minister for Statistics. For more from Heather 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Duplassy Allen Drive, listen live to news Talks. It'd be 59 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.