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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honored facts.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the

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Speaker 1: buyers others cans use trogs.

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Speaker 2: Head be boy, You're welcome today.

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Speaker 3: The Kumar's case and how many overstayers we have here

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Speaker 3: and how many kids have been born? Greg four and

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Speaker 3: the boss of a New Zealand on Engines, head Winds,

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Speaker 3: reputations and profits. Tim and Katie did a week Richard

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Speaker 3: Arld Murray olds they poney.

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Speaker 2: Up as well.

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Speaker 4: Pasky, here we.

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Speaker 3: Go for Friday seven past six. In a week, two

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Speaker 3: hundred and thirty New Zealanders were given confirmation Kinleith Mill

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Speaker 3: was over. The Australians, facing the same scenario at a

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Speaker 3: place called Whale in South Australia, did something completely different.

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Speaker 3: The steel mill is owned by a British billionaire. It's

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Speaker 3: in a world of financial trouble. It may well go

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Speaker 3: to the wall that employs one thousand people in a

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Speaker 3: town of twenty two thousand. So the state government back

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Speaker 3: now by the federal government, has bought it. Even for

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Speaker 3: a labor government in Australia, it's an extraordinary move. But

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Speaker 3: the assessment is in a small town. You can't afford

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Speaker 3: to lose that many jobs. They'll look for a buyer,

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Speaker 3: they'll look for a finance, they will look to rejig

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Speaker 3: the place solved the problem. But in the meantime, the

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Speaker 3: places open, the jobs are safe. First question you ask,

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Speaker 3: of course, is would this decision be made if it

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Speaker 3: was not about a month or so out from an election?

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Speaker 3: An election the government who just bought the steel works

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Speaker 3: as in serious danger of losing the precedent, of course,

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Speaker 3: is also shocking. If you save one, surely you save

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Speaker 3: them all. And if you don't, because you can't, the

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Speaker 3: locals will quite rightly ask why not. Also, the government

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Speaker 3: owning things and the long term has never really been

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Speaker 3: a recipe for efficiency or success. As much heat. For example,

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Speaker 3: as labor got in the eighties for selling the railways

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Speaker 3: here helling Clark, buying them back has hardly been one

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Speaker 3: of life's great business decisions. In a small town, though,

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Speaker 3: at the pub or the dairy or the sports field

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, who cares, they've got jobs, the bills get paid,

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Speaker 3: the kids day and the local school they'll take it.

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Speaker 3: Where the money came from doesn't really matter, does it

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Speaker 3: as much? As Shane Jones espouse as the value of

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Speaker 3: the regions. The regions here still lost the mill and

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Speaker 3: the problem that's sunk in or sunk it are the

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Speaker 3: price of power that still hasn't been addressed either as

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Speaker 3: an issue. We go into yet another winter with a

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Speaker 3: mess of a system in Australia. The place is opened,

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Speaker 3: the jobs are saved. No one's leaving town. So which

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Speaker 3: approach is better?

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Speaker 4: News of the world in ninety seconds and.

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Speaker 3: Could the Europeans finally beginning there act together on the defense?

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Speaker 3: Are UK Defense secretary this morning bullush on spending.

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Speaker 5: We've been two nations, two European nations, providing strong military

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Speaker 5: help to Ukraine. We will continue to do that and

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Speaker 5: we will step that up and part of our discussions

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Speaker 5: have been today about how we do so.

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Speaker 3: And the UK Chancellor bullish on spending.

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Speaker 6: I am absolutely committed to spending two point five percent

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Speaker 6: of GDP on defense.

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Speaker 3: I'm really clear that a strong.

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Speaker 7: Economy depends on strong defenses.

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Speaker 3: The NATO Secretary General, channeling the thoughts of mister Higgsyth

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Speaker 3: is bullish on spending as US Secretary of Defense, beat

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Speaker 3: Hexset said last.

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Speaker 4: Week in Brussels, No Minsk three.

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Speaker 8: It has to be an ensuring and lasting best deal.

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Speaker 3: But the Norwegians reminding the Americans, we're all in this together.

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Speaker 9: There are some nuclear capacity as a call up peninsula

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Speaker 9: is threatening us.

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Speaker 4: We are in the same boats.

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Speaker 10: We have common interests.

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Speaker 3: Then in Britain, another of those reports into a disaster

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Speaker 3: that shows things could have been done a hell of

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Speaker 3: a lot. Bit that this was the army, It was

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Speaker 3: a sex ueal assault, it was poorly handled and it

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Speaker 3: led to the poor woman hanging herself.

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Speaker 11: The evidence heard in this inquest reminds us how important

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Speaker 11: it is to make lasting and defective change. It is

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Speaker 11: my hope that such change will give service personnel the

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Speaker 11: confidence they need to report sexual offenses and inappropriate behaviors.

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Speaker 3: A bit of shock and horror, indeed from maybe shock

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Speaker 3: and awe from bond Land. Barbara Broccoli is out. MGM

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Speaker 3: are taking creative control.

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Speaker 7: I've had the honor of working closely with four of

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Speaker 7: the tremendously talented actors who have played Double O seven

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Speaker 7: and thousands of wonderful artists within the industry. With the

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Speaker 7: conclusion of No Time to Die and Michael retiring from

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Speaker 7: the films, I think this is my time to face

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Speaker 7: on my other project.

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Speaker 3: Finally, Birkenstocks. They've been in courts looking to protect their design.

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Speaker 3: Their approach was to have the footwear classified as art

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Speaker 3: bit cool. If it was art, it would be more

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Speaker 3: easily protected under copyright. Sadly, the federal judge this is

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Speaker 3: in Germany, so clearly no sense of humor whatsoever said.

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Speaker 3: For copyright protection to apply, there must be such a

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Speaker 3: degree of design that the product displays some individuality, and

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Speaker 3: if you've seen a Burke you can't really argue with that.

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Speaker 3: So given legally, that's the end of the line. Burke's

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Speaker 3: officially remain the world's routess footwear, and that is news

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Speaker 3: of the world and bad taste. In ninety second I

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Speaker 3: got several polls, two really interesting ones. This is moderately interesting.

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Speaker 3: Ninety percent of Japanese companies think Trump's policies are negative

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Speaker 3: for business. I think most of us would agree with that,

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Speaker 3: wouldn't we. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 3: Seppy weird story. So Overnight Delta as in the airline

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Speaker 3: are offering thirty thousand bucks to each person who was

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Speaker 3: on that plane that sort of landed in Toronto and

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Speaker 3: flipped upside down. So the question is thirty thousand dollars enough?

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Speaker 3: Why thirty thousand dollars? Does thirty thousand dollars admit to

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Speaker 3: some sort of fault when we don't know what happened

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Speaker 3: or why it happened, And does thirty thousand dollars solve

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Speaker 3: this didn't go very well, does thirty thousand dollars fix.

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Speaker 9: That for well, I would definitely go outside down for

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Speaker 9: thirty grand Well, that's.

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Speaker 3: The next question. If it's thirty thousand dollars, do you

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Speaker 3: want to jump on a plane that lands, skids and

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Speaker 3: flips upside down? So you get the meal, some cassava

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Speaker 3: crisps and thirty thousand dollars. It's fifteen past six. Light

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Speaker 3: over from Joy my wealth Andrew Callah, good morning, very

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Speaker 3: good morning, mate. Speaking of aviation the airport, We're happy

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Speaker 3: with these numbers look very okay.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, it's always a question of expectations, So yeah, or

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Speaker 12: can theirport part of the infrastructure relating to topics obviously

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Speaker 12: Earnings also jumped. Net underlying profit rose by a smaller margin,

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Speaker 12: could call solid travel demand. The Unfortunately, the growth was

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Speaker 12: a little more subdued than expected, and Autland Airport is

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Speaker 12: attributing that to market conditions. But there's still plenty of

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Speaker 12: kiwis traveling overseas. They had five and a half percent

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Speaker 12: a problem with domestic travel, domestic travelers below expectations, and

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Speaker 12: they've got bright spots and these are encouraging. December last

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Speaker 12: year Mike was the busiest month they've seen since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 12: and January the fifth this year was the busiest day

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Speaker 12: in more than five years. I think what was interesting

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Speaker 12: the issue here being availability of aircraft and also the

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Speaker 12: associated issue of their dominance of domestic travel. So look,

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Speaker 12: the airport noted that there are now one point five

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Speaker 12: nine thousand fewer seats per week. The capacity the international

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Speaker 12: So they said, Mike that questions needed to be asked

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Speaker 12: concerned that the eighty four percent market share that any

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Speaker 12: not meeting the needs of consumers or regional communities. And

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Speaker 3: Exactly, but what are you going to do? Have Andrew

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Speaker 3: Callaheer Airlines who's coming in? Nothing stopping people coming in?

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Speaker 3: And we've been there, done that, haven't we.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, it's just not happening. So look, the problem here,

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Speaker 12: Mike is that the result was a little bit below

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Speaker 12: analyst expectations. So share price movement, yes, they're down three

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Speaker 12: No no, So revenues there fell four point seven percent,

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Speaker 12: event when it finally does open, I think we're talking

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Speaker 12: February twenty six, there's still a year away.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know when they're talking about Andrew,

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Speaker 12: This saga going to go on? So the CEO saying

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Speaker 12: is just having to be patient. That's a euphemism for

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Speaker 12: something I don't know what it is. They're looking at

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Speaker 12: selling non core assets to pay down debt that could

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Speaker 12: potentially return the group to making dividend payouts. Share price

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Speaker 12: yesday fell seven and a half percent, and that share

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Speaker 3: Give me some numbers can do that now.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, the Dow jones quite weak one point three percent.

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Speaker 12: Walmart actually the problem there. Walmart's are lowering their guidance

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Speaker 12: for the following year. So forty four thousand and forty

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Speaker 12: two thirty percent. Nineteen thousand, nine hundred and twenty four.

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Speaker 12: three three five oh. The OSSI has had a week

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Speaker 12: day yesday down one point one four percent eight three

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Speaker 3: Simple stuff. First, is the a lack of competition? And

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Speaker 15: Yes. The regulators that managed to create a moat around

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Speaker 3: So Adrian Orr is a conservative operator, and he would

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Speaker 3: When you put this forward to the government, do they

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Speaker 15: I mean, the government's a big beast. Mike. You know,

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Speaker 3: How much of this is Adrian or versus any governor?

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Speaker 3: Do banks flood to this country or are we not

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Speaker 15: The margins suggest that there are excess profits being made here.

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Speaker 15: You know, I'm a big support of the bank, so

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Speaker 15: I think they've really lost that argument, certainly in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, confident or not, hopeful or not.

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Speaker 15: I'm always hopeful, make confident. I guess we just need

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Speaker 3: Good only well said and nice talk you appreciate very much.

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Speaker 3: And everybody. So here's another one who is and there's

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Speaker 3: My dis incentives for banking New Zealand include comparatively stringent

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Speaker 3: Problem is Adrian goes nts the bank's faults and the

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Speaker 16: impeachment hearing after he was held weapons from Ukraine unless

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Speaker 16: Zelensky backed him up by claiming falsely in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 16: that the Biden's had dirty dealings there. Trump now is

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Speaker 16: slamming Zelensky, killing him a modestly successful television comedian, a

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Speaker 16: modestly successful tabloid TV figure who goes into politics. Why

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Speaker 16: does that sound familiar anyway? Trump says, Zelensky talked the

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Speaker 16: US into spending three hundred and fifty billion US dollars.

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Speaker 10: That is false.

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Speaker 16: The US response financially has total one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 16: three billion till September twenty twenty four. Trump claims the

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Speaker 16: US has spent two hundred billion dollars more than Europe,

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Speaker 16: but that also false. US has spent eighteen billion dollars less.

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Speaker 16: Trump says the US will get nothing back from what

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Speaker 16: it has spent on the war.

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Speaker 4: That also false.

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Speaker 16: The American Enterprise Institute says seventy percent of Ukraine eight

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Speaker 16: has been spent in the United States, with much going

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Speaker 16: to local weapons manufacturers. Trump says Zelensky has refused to

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Speaker 16: have an election and is at single digits in the polls.

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Speaker 16: That also false. A recent survey so Zelensky has a

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Speaker 16: fifty seven percent approval rating. While Trump says nothing about

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Speaker 16: Russia's dubious elections where opposition leaders are killed or exiled

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Speaker 16: as for not holding elections theory wartime Saint Churchill he

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Speaker 16: did the same. The Wall Street Journal Ripert Murdoch has

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Speaker 16: split today with Trump on Ukraine with a new piece

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Speaker 16: entitled Trump Tilt Towards a Ukrainian Sellout. It reads, quote,

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Speaker 16: the US has a profound interest in denying mister Putin

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Speaker 16: a new perch on more of the NATO border.

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Speaker 10: A deal that.

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Speaker 16: Amounts to Ukraine's surrender will be a blow to American

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Speaker 16: power that will radiate to the Pacific and the Middle East.

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Speaker 16: End quote Republican political responses. Well a few are voicing

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Speaker 16: support for Ukraine, like Collins, mckowski, Kennedy, Tillis Wicker.

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Speaker 4: I agree that President Celenski is to blame.

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Speaker 17: That I absolutely when Knights Hey that Zelenski started the war,

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Speaker 17: it is quite clear.

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Speaker 14: Who started the war.

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Speaker 17: It was absolutely Russia that puts directive.

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Speaker 15: Put sharing water.

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Speaker 14: I also believe.

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Speaker 18: Through bitter experience that Vladim and Putin is a gangster.

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Speaker 18: He's a gangster with the black Hawk. He makes Jeffrey

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Speaker 18: Doma look like Mother Kusha. He has Stalin's taste for blood.

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Speaker 19: That invasion was the responsibility of one human being on

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Speaker 19: the face of this planet. It was Vladimir putin in

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Speaker 19: a calculation to go through Ukraine and not stop there,

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Speaker 19: to go through Moldova, to go through the Balkans, to

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Speaker 19: ultimately go to the Baltic States and send the signal

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Speaker 19: to China that now is the time that they can

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Speaker 19: take action in the South China Sea.

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Speaker 5: Who knows a war criminal and should be in jail

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Speaker 5: for the rest of his life if not executed.

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Speaker 16: Woods another. Republicans today are mellowing the tone on Russia

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Speaker 16: non a criticizing Trump on this. So what's behind it?

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Speaker 16: All matter of speculation, but there are related incidents. The

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Speaker 16: other day, Zelenski refused to sign that paper giving the

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Speaker 16: US rights to half Ukraine's remn Well in return for nothing,

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Speaker 16: and that refusal is said to have teto Trump. There

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Speaker 16: is speculation also that Trump is looking for a deal,

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Speaker 16: not a small deal, but a mega maga deal, one

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Speaker 16: that would involve the US, Russia, and apparently China. At

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Speaker 16: the Munich talks the other day, the Russians produced a

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Speaker 16: claim that if the US resumes dealing with Moscow again,

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Speaker 16: they could make three hundred and twenty four billion US

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Speaker 16: dollars carving up the planet. It's been said by aids

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Speaker 16: that Trump wants a Nobel prize, plus a national holiday

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Speaker 16: in his name that's been proposed by one Republican here,

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Speaker 16: and maybe a spot on Mount Rushmore. Not clear that

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Speaker 16: Moscow and Beijing have the same sorts or if the

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Speaker 16: new carve up of the planet is no more likely

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Speaker 16: than the Trump goes a casino.

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Speaker 3: We will see you on Monday. Appreciate it. Richard Arnold

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Speaker 3: stateside and just we were after the nuclear people the

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Speaker 3: other day that they sacked and needed to hire back

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Speaker 3: because they needed somebody to look after the nuclear weaponry.

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Speaker 3: Bird Flu's the latest US Department of Agriculture. All the

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Speaker 3: people who are working on the bird flu. They sacked

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Speaker 3: them as well. But now that bird flu is a

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Speaker 3: bit of a problem, the price of eggs have gone

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Speaker 3: through the route. They need to hire those people back

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Speaker 3: as well. Nine minutes away from seven the make.

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Speaker 1: Cosking breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togstad v.

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Speaker 3: Here are the Fed minutes. And this is why they're

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Speaker 3: not moving their interest rates, because they've worked out what

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Speaker 3: we all know. Tariffs don't work well for the economy.

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Speaker 3: The effects quote the effects of potential changes in trade

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Speaker 3: and immigration policy, as well as strong consumer demand. Business

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Speaker 3: contacts in a number of districts have indicated that firms

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Speaker 3: would attempt to pass on consumers higher input costs arising

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Speaker 3: from potential tariffs. We've been through it all in COVID.

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Speaker 3: We've seen how it works. The moment you make stuff

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Speaker 3: more expensive, somebody is paying for it. It's the consumer.

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Speaker 3: Germany this weekend so so interesting, they're voting. The talk

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Speaker 3: is the AfD. The latest poll has the CDU CSU

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Speaker 3: and they hang out together at twenty nine point three,

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Speaker 3: the AAFD coming in second at twenty point seven, the

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Speaker 3: SPD at fifteen point five, the Greens at thirteen, the

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Speaker 3: Left as they call themselves, six and a half. So

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Speaker 3: the question is can the CDU and the CSU do

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Speaker 3: business with the AfD. That's if the Poles are right,

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Speaker 3: and Germany tends to be a bit you know, militaristic

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Speaker 3: like that, they tend to get these numbers right. And

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Speaker 3: if you've ever watched a German election, and it's well

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Speaker 3: worth watching, is the polls close at Pikta whatever time

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Speaker 3: they close, seven o'clock, the result comes in at one

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Speaker 3: second past seven bag like that. That's how elections should

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Speaker 3: be run. It's not in New Zealand where we're and

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Speaker 3: we're standing by for the counting in Hallandsville. So twenty

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Speaker 3: nine point three and twenty point seven that's a government.

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Speaker 3: But do the CDU and the CSU work with the AfD.

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Speaker 3: Do the AfD have anything to do with anybody? And

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Speaker 3: if they don't, and they can't and they won't, then

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Speaker 3: what five away from seven all the.

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Speaker 4: Ins and the ouse.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Still good us.

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Speaker 3: Earlier on this week, investors coming back to the housing

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Speaker 3: market core logic I've seen it as well, so feb

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Speaker 3: Housing chart. It shows increased market activity among the movers

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Speaker 3: and people with multiple properties. They've made up twenty eight

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Speaker 3: percent twenty four percent respectively, so twenty eight percent in

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Speaker 3: the movers category. That's for the month of jan First

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Speaker 3: home buy is still there at twenty five, down a

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Speaker 3: bit from twenty six q four last year, but you

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Speaker 3: know they're there. They're seeing investors return at levels not

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Speaker 3: seen since twenty twenty one. Why boggage rates baby money

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Speaker 3: coming back down, further cuts on the horizon and why

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Speaker 3: the investors back will The gross rental yield is now

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Speaker 3: at three point nine percent, which is the highest level

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Speaker 3: since twenty sixteen, so there's money to be made in rentals,

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Speaker 3: which is good. In terms of listings, there were twenty

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Speaker 3: nine thousand, three hundred in January, which is up twenty

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Speaker 3: five percent on the five year average, So there is

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Speaker 3: no shortage of houses on the market at the moment.

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Speaker 3: So if you're in your only question, if you're borrowing money,

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Speaker 3: your only question is do a hang in a little

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Speaker 3: bit longer because you've got a couple of twenty five's

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Speaker 3: coming from the RB, or do you jump now, or

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Speaker 3: do you lock in a bit long term? Or do

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Speaker 3: you try and second guess the market? And so you go.

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Speaker 3: We got a quote yesterday there was there was a

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Speaker 3: moment of tension in our house yesterday. I wouldn't call

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Speaker 3: it tension. I would call it sweet relief. But some

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Speaker 3: didn't see it that way. We got a quote we're

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Speaker 3: doing some work on a house, and I had a

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Speaker 3: number in my mind as to what that would be,

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Speaker 3: and the other person that I'm involved with had a

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Speaker 3: number in her mind as to what that would be.

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Speaker 3: The fact that she lives in a different world and

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Speaker 3: a different planet really doesn't come into it until you

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Speaker 3: articulate that out loud. And when you say you live

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Speaker 3: in a different world on a different planet, that's where

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Speaker 3: the tension starts.

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Speaker 20: But so it was one of you closer than the

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Speaker 20: other two that it was quite.

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Speaker 3: I was spot on, and and I made the mistake

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Speaker 3: at that point going that's actually quite good, and she

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Speaker 3: things happened at that point anyway, so there was a

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Speaker 3: gap between what she thought it might be and what

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Speaker 3: I thought it was. And anyway, I think we decided

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Speaker 3: at the end of the day that that wasn't bad

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Speaker 3: at all. So we're doing that and somebody, some lucky

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Speaker 3: family is going to be the recipient of some fantastic

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Speaker 3: renovations and they're going to thoroughly enjoy them. And if

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Speaker 3: they didn't them or scratch them, they're going to have

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Speaker 3: to answer to me.

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Speaker 1: News for you next, the only report you need to

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Speaker 1: start your day the MI casting breakfast with the range

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Speaker 1: rover Villa designed to intrigue can use TOM.

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Speaker 3: Seven past seven. So we've got to report into fifty

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Speaker 3: eight councils long term planning from the Order to General

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Speaker 3: councils we read have made a significant achievement meeting their

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Speaker 3: requirements on time and uncertain circumstances. This led to the

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Speaker 3: AG to suggest the Central Government might like to do

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Speaker 3: something similar to be the Order to General Andrew McConnell's

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Speaker 3: with it's Andrew, very good morning to you good morning.

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Speaker 3: Makeel can I suggest the reason that the councils might

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Speaker 3: have done something half decent is because central government tends

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Speaker 3: their views and policies tend to be a little bit

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Speaker 3: starker than a local council. Is that fair or not.

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Speaker 21: I think that councils have done a really good job

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Speaker 21: for a couple of reasons. First, they've done this since

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Speaker 21: around two thousand and six, so they do understand what

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Speaker 21: they need to be looking at in the first instance.

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Speaker 21: And also we provide a level of assurance over this

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Speaker 21: which does help them, does help them arrive at a

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Speaker 21: strong document. And what's the purpose of this this planning, Well,

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Speaker 21: this pantem is really about how council how councils strike

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Speaker 21: their rates. Fundamentally are the councils are giving a whole

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Speaker 21: range of power by both state to levy rates to

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Speaker 21: use those rates to meet public services in the regions.

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Speaker 21: And these plans really are for councils to be able

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Speaker 21: to plan forward, invest in their infrastructure and really show

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Speaker 21: the public how their rates money is going to be used,

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Speaker 21: which is why we're in the business of assuring them.

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Speaker 3: And but I go back to the central government. I

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Speaker 3: mean what's happening at the roads and infrastructure at the

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Speaker 3: moment is a very good example. I think what they're

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Speaker 3: trying to do this current government, no politics involved, but

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Speaker 3: what this current government is trying to do around infrastruction

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Speaker 3: roads is completely different from the last government. So how

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Speaker 3: do your long term plan when you know it's going

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Speaker 3: to change whereas you're not going to see the same

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Speaker 3: level of change at local level.

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Speaker 21: Well, what we're what we're really doing is raising the

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Speaker 21: question of how much does central gom and understand about

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Speaker 21: infrastructure costs. Now, these are long term assets, they are

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Speaker 21: varying ages, they are a varying degrees of condition, and

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Speaker 21: most government agencies have some form of infrastructure are relying on.

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Speaker 21: So where we think that question needs some serious consideration.

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Speaker 3: And can you long term plan more easily if you

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Speaker 3: run things like most councils do on a cost plus

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Speaker 3: accounting basis, where you just start putting up the rates

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Speaker 3: twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen percent because someone else will pay,

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Speaker 3: and you can't do that at central government.

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Speaker 21: Well, the shows that councils out they're just Q leaders

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Speaker 21: really to control their revenue so that they can really

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Speaker 21: address the expenditure that have got going forward. So there's rates,

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Speaker 21: there's some other revenue, there's debts, there's there's cutting services

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Speaker 21: and making savings or if you're fortunate enough, you've b

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Speaker 21: as your sales, and then there's the government. So really

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Speaker 21: we think there's a conversation there around how councils will

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Speaker 21: go on in this space. It is getting much more

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Speaker 21: difficult with councils in terms of long term sustainability because

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Speaker 21: of the age of their infrastruction exactly.

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Speaker 3: Andrew, good to talk to you appreciate it. Have a

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Speaker 3: good weekend. Andrew McConnell, Deputy Order to General with us

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Speaker 3: this morning ten minutes past seven. Skiing the cars back

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Speaker 3: this weekend. I'm excited about that. Been a big gap

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Speaker 3: between drinks. Darmond Duma are sorry, Darman Kumar set to stay,

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Speaker 3: parents got to go though. Tough call for the minister.

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Speaker 3: I suspect a lot of questions around how many overstars

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Speaker 3: this week we've got in the country. Got no idea

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Speaker 3: about now. Katie Armstrong is the owner of Inter New

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Speaker 3: Zealand Immigration back with us, Katie morning.

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Speaker 6: Good morning mane.

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Speaker 3: The lack of stats did any of that? You know

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Speaker 3: the fact that we haven't got a clue who's here

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Speaker 3: and who isn't? Does that surprise you, worry you, upset you?

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Speaker 6: I do find it a little bit upsetting. It doesn't

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Speaker 6: surprise me. I don't think there's much resource put into

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Speaker 6: this kind of research anymore at all. But yes, I mean,

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Speaker 6: it would be extremely useful, would it not to have

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Speaker 6: some kind of better clue the last starts We're in

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Speaker 6: twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Right do you?

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Speaker 3: I mean, how does it materially affect us outside of

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Speaker 3: every now and again somebody comes to our attention that

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Speaker 3: may need booting out of the cunty.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's one way of putting it. The other way

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Speaker 6: is look at just always remembering that these are you know,

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Speaker 6: these are individual people who respect you know, who need

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Speaker 6: dignity when treating them. But how it affects New Zealand

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Speaker 6: as a whole, I guess is that out there? I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody would think it's particularly healthy to

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Speaker 6: have long, long term overstayers in the country, particularly these

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Speaker 6: cases with children.

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Speaker 3: Do love these people? I was thinking about the Kumas.

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Speaker 3: So at some point you are become illegal and then

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Speaker 3: you go to yourself, right, well, the week's gone by

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Speaker 3: a month's gone by, years gone by. Can I go

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Speaker 3: to somebody and try and get that rectified? Do you

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Speaker 3: deal that sort of thing or not? Yes, can you

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Speaker 3: rectify it?

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Speaker 6: Well, there are mechanisms for rectifying, and yes we do so,

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Speaker 6: you know, we've we've got within the law. We have

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Speaker 6: two different processes for attempting to rectify. One is where

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Speaker 6: you go into the jaws of Immigration New Zealand itself.

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Speaker 6: It's called a Section sixty one process. Sometimes that's successful,

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Speaker 6: but it depends on the mood of your you know,

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Speaker 6: of Immigration New Zealand. The other backstop is the minister.

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Speaker 6: The thing that happened in this case with Kumar, which

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Speaker 6: I think has caused, you know, really really caused a

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Speaker 6: lot of upset, is that that was a case that

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Speaker 6: was meant to be decided by an Associate Minister whose

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Speaker 6: job it is to to you know, be that safety net,

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Speaker 6: but in fact it was seemingly palmed off to what

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Speaker 6: we call the delegated decision makers. These are people within

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Speaker 6: Immigration New Zealand who are making some very hard nosed

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Speaker 6: decisions of late.

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Speaker 3: Is that a crapshoot if you go within, as you

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Speaker 3: put it, within the jaws of the department. If you

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Speaker 3: get Brian who's in a good mood as opposed to Sharon,

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Speaker 3: who's an infoul mood, can it change on that or not.

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Speaker 6: I think our industry would say that most of the

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Speaker 6: time that the delegated decision makers are not in a

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Speaker 6: particularly good mood.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you bout it out and have they solved

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Speaker 3: the problem? He stays, parents gone. Has that solved anything?

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Speaker 6: Well, it's definitely solved something for him around his ability

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Speaker 6: to go into tertiary education. And I think it was

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Speaker 6: absolutely the right decision. That was, you know, it was

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Speaker 6: a no brainer. I think with the parents it's terribly fought.

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Speaker 6: I don't know the individual circumstance. I don't know how

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Speaker 6: they came to be overstairs. I don't know what they've

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Speaker 6: done with their lives. Clearly, for the child or the

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Speaker 6: two children, it's going to be traumatic that the parents.

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Speaker 14: Have to leave.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and see, if you were blunt, you might say

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Speaker 3: something along the lines of maybe the parents might like

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Speaker 3: to have thought of that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, And I hear you and I understand, and these

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Speaker 6: are all the different balancing acts. I think that's one

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Speaker 6: of the reasons why we haven't had the amnesty is

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Speaker 6: because people, you know, this government said, you know, it's

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Speaker 6: all very well giving an amnesty to overstairs, but what

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Speaker 6: about the lawful people.

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Speaker 3: It's a sort of a microcosmic version of America at

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Speaker 3: this point, isn't it well?

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Speaker 6: And I see it as an opportunity Mike, for news

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Speaker 6: EUM to differentiate its approach to America. I mean, our problem,

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Speaker 6: you know, the last starts of fourteen to twenty thousand,

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Speaker 6: the UK's got maybe up to a million, noting or

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Speaker 6: maybe one point two million. Our problems are really very small.

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Speaker 6: We don't have land borders. We have to remember that.

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Speaker 6: So we could potentially sort this, but I would like

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Speaker 6: to see more work done also in parallel on what

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Speaker 6: do we do about those long term legal people who

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Speaker 6: missed out on that twenty twenty one residence ZA. That

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Speaker 6: was the big opportunity. That was the opportunity to actually

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Speaker 6: during COVID say to people who were lawful, you've got

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Speaker 6: a pathway, but where the way they sliced and diced

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Speaker 6: it was terribly unfair. And we have got people I

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Speaker 6: spoke to one yesterday who's been here lawfully for a

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Speaker 6: good number of years contributing what happens to that person.

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Speaker 3: Striden de Pence World and Caddie Good to Heavy on

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Speaker 3: the program, Caddy Armstrong Mike, it would be interesting to

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Speaker 3: know the high number of houses on the market indicate

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Speaker 3: that people are struggling and having to sell or are

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Speaker 3: they looking to sell and trade up. They've got the

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Speaker 3: answer to that. More shortly for the past.

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Speaker 1: The like asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard

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Speaker 1: by news Talks, that'd be news.

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Speaker 3: Talks ey seventeen past seven. I can't tell you how

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Speaker 3: many texts I've got this week on the same subject.

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Speaker 3: And the answer has been given to you have the

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Speaker 3: Kumars paid tax over the years? What is the role

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Speaker 3: of the ID and other agencies and such immigration? The

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Speaker 3: answer is, and the clue was in Brian Roach's report

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Speaker 3: into certain aspects of the public service earlier on as

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Speaker 3: regards the Monaewa Maria. Different subject but same theme. What

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Speaker 3: you're assuming is the public serviceer up too much. What

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Speaker 3: you're assuming is that they share information and their first world.

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Speaker 3: What you're assuming is that they're good at their job.

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Speaker 3: None of that happens. So just because you pay tax,

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Speaker 3: as I've said on this program, over and over this

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Speaker 3: week just because you pay tax in your name's mister Kumar,

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Speaker 3: if you pay tax, not that they don't care. The

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Speaker 3: IOD is not remotely interested in you other than whether

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Speaker 3: you owe them tax or not if you didn't owe

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Speaker 3: them tax. And it built up over many, many years,

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Speaker 3: and they came and looked at you, and they had

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Speaker 3: the wherewithal and looking at you beyond your business as

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Speaker 3: to whether you might be an overstaer or not, which

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't because they don't care, because they're not interested.

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Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. It's like you going to the doctor with

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Speaker 3: a sore throat and them going, so, do you know

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Speaker 3: how to fix a car? They're not going to ask that.

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Speaker 3: They're not interested. They're completely different departments and they don't

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Speaker 3: talk to each other. So it's no wonder there are

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Speaker 3: people wandering around the country nobody understands. Mike. It would

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Speaker 3: be interesting to know the high number of houses on

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Speaker 3: the market indicate that people are struggling and having to sell. No,

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Speaker 3: that whole thing that was going to be is like

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Speaker 3: the mortgage cliff during COVID, it never happened. The number

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Speaker 3: of stressed or destressed sales in the market is extremely low.

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Speaker 3: It has been low, it continues to be low. By

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Speaker 3: and large people are handling things quite nicely. Thank you, Mike.

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Speaker 3: You should be buying an investment property in Sydney. Thank

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Speaker 3: you for that. Bitter returns, more tenant demand and far

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Speaker 3: more likely your kids will need a place to live.

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Speaker 3: It's excellent life advice. So I love the audience for

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Speaker 3: the life advice. Mikey, you're building another pump shed or

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Speaker 3: a greenhouse.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I was referring to a rental property. Jason, the boss

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Speaker 3: of this radius. He's the one who got the shed

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Speaker 3: this week, the Mattakana shed it got. He's not much

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Speaker 3: of a handyman. He bought kit set and hired a person,

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Speaker 3: if you can believe it, I mean, who can't swing

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Speaker 3: the thing together, which I understand to have happened yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So I'll give you the.

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Speaker 20: Update I've been.

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Speaker 9: You can't deny you've been a bad influence on him,

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Speaker 9: very much so, I mean, and proud of it. He

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Speaker 9: spent hundreds of dollars hiring a person to hang their

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Speaker 3: Spread the money around the economy. Have I said that before, Glenn,

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Speaker 3: Or have I said that before? Spread the money around

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Speaker 3: the economy. Then we get to tomatoes. But I'll come

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Speaker 3: back to that in just a couple of moments. Du

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Speaker 3: Boir by the by just quickly. The guy who Joseph

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Speaker 3: Arabia's fallen ill oh ha's he So he's being assessed

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Speaker 3: I'm at Gregg's place yesterday and he's growing his tomatoes outdoors,

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Speaker 3: greatest thing we ever did. And we're building that. We're

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Speaker 3: growing these tomatoes and capsicums and lettuces and leaves and

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914
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916
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917
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918
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919
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Speaker 4: Is this that's how Greg cuts it?

921
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Speaker 3: Is this a couple of old fats, same couple of

922
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923
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Speaker 2: Greg?

924
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926
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Speaker 1: New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking

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Speaker 3: Three hours away promote Friday Morning, Tim and Caty to

932
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Speaker 3: the week for a shortly meantime. The troubles in New

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934
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Speaker 3: as a half year result got released proppits down eighteen

935
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Speaker 3: percent to one hundred and six million. Are they found

936
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Speaker 3: out that basically if your engines don't work, the planes

937
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Speaker 3: have trouble getting off the ground. In New Zealand's chief

938
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Speaker 3: executive Greg four And is back with us. Very good

939
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Speaker 3: morning to you, Good morning, glass half full. It could

940
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Speaker 3: have been worse. Is that fair?

941
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Speaker 10: No?

942
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Speaker 22: I'm'd actually say Mike that I'm pretty proud of the

943
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 22: result that their New Zealand's has delivered for the half.

944
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Speaker 22: You know, when you consider the amount of aircraft we

945
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 22: hadn't been able to get, it's a bit like playing

946
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 22: a rugby match without your front row. And I'm really

947
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Speaker 22: proud of the way that our team have stepped up.

948
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 22: I think they've done a terrific job.

949
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 3: When does the trouble end.

950
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 22: Probably two to three years. Unfortunately, there's a pretty long

951
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 22: lead time. There's probably about two thousand aircraft that have

952
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 22: got to get built between Boeing and in Bus, and

953
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 22: on top of that, we've got Rolls Royce with a

954
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 22: few challenges, Prant and Whitney with challenges, and you know,

955
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 22: once again I say, you've got to.

956
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 2: Work through it.

957
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 22: It's not going to get fixed quickly. But I think

958
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 22: the team is doing a very good job actually managing

959
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 22: and what are pretty challenging circumstances.

960
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 3: What's your biggest problem the engines or the new planes

961
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 3: you aren't getting?

962
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Speaker 22: Primarily, I would say the engines first up. We're heading

963
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 22: into a period mic where we go to have eleven

964
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Speaker 22: of our aircraft unavailable. That's going to be about seven

965
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 22: thousand seats a day. We have to cover that by

966
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 22: bringing in least aircraft. We're actually as recently as yesterday

967
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 22: scrambling around to try and get another what we call

968
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Speaker 22: wet leaf aircraft. So that's where you know, a set

969
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 22: of crew, including the pilots, actually come in and fly

970
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 22: because we just cannot get enough engines out of Rolls

971
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Speaker 22: Royce and Pratt.

972
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: And Whitney I have tremendous Are you being paid by

973
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: them by way of compensation? I read a number. It was,

974
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: but it didn't make up for the loss your suffering,

975
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Speaker 3: does it?

976
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Speaker 22: That's correct?

977
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Speaker 20: So they did.

978
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Speaker 22: They paid us just over ninety million dollars for the

979
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Speaker 22: first half, and you're right, it doesn't make up for

980
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Speaker 22: what we're missing. There would be over another forty million

981
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Speaker 22: that we have that we have to incur. But you

982
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Speaker 22: know that doesn't include what it does to your reputation.

983
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Speaker 22: And that's what worries me. You know, because people get

984
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Speaker 22: on a plane. It may not be any New Zealand plane,

985
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Speaker 22: or it's an older plane, and we're having to scramble harder,

986
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Speaker 22: and you know, and what that means is that the

987
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Speaker 22: operation doesn't run as well. You know, the Swiss watch

988
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 22: that I often talk about internally is not quite as

989
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Speaker 22: accurate as we want it to be. But as I

990
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Speaker 22: can tell you, we are striving to do this and

991
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Speaker 22: we're not sitting on our hands, not for one day.

992
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Speaker 3: There are a couple of I mean, you can do

993
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Speaker 3: it and slice it up different ways. The domestic reputation

994
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Speaker 3: seems to be really troubled. Is your domestic network affected by.

995
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Speaker 22: Engines indirectly, it is because in order to cover the

996
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Speaker 22: fact that we are six of our earbars A three

997
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Speaker 22: twenty ones down our best aircraft, we're asking the regional

998
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Speaker 22: turbo props to fly harder. And you know by that,

999
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Speaker 22: I mean having to do sectors that you wouldn't ask

1000
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Speaker 22: them to do, so that puts a bit of pressure

1001
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Speaker 22: on parts and maintenance and people. The good news is

1002
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 22: we track this every single day and I can tell

1003
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Speaker 22: you I get as frustrated as anyone I see every

1004
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Speaker 22: single cancelation that comes through in this business. The good

1005
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Speaker 22: news is we're making some real headway and actually since

1006
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 22: the beginning of the year there have not been too

1007
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 22: many cancelations. In fact, cancelations for year to date are

1008
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 22: running it just to tad over one percent in the

1009
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 22: three averages too. We went through a period just before

1010
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 22: Christmas December.

1011
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the number seventy two, seventy four percent

1012
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 3: on time takeoff landing. That was your problem because that

1013
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 3: fell off from November, didn't it.

1014
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 22: November wasn't great. And you know those stats are public.

1015
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 22: We share them with the mot and you know, look

1016
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 22: they may be better than some others, but that's not

1017
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Speaker 22: the benchmark that we set any in New Zealand. We

1018
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 22: want that number actually to be about eighty three percent.

1019
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 22: The good news is since January, that's what we've been delivering.

1020
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: I know this is rough, but for the purposes of

1021
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Speaker 3: this interview, I look at Singapore, Emirates, Quantus, United Qatar

1022
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 3: career in terms of revenue and their profit. They're doing

1023
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: many times more profit off revenue than you are.

1024
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: Why.

1025
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 22: Two things, they're not dealing with the same economic situation

1026
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 22: that we are. You know, our government spend on the

1027
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 22: domestic airline is significant, a significant portion. That is down

1028
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 22: twenty five percent. Corporate spend is a significant portion of

1029
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 22: domestic that's down ten Second thing, they're not dealing with

1030
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 22: the same engine issues. See, it all depends what model

1031
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 22: engine you have on your plane. We unfortunately had the

1032
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 22: two that is most troubled at the moment. So that

1033
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 22: part of dumb luck it will pass.

1034
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course it will. But that's just because that

1035
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: was my next question. None of these people say to

1036
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 3: have the problems you do, is that just sheer dumb

1037
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 3: luck we bought the wrong planes.

1038
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 22: Well, it's easy in hindsight to say, you know, maybe

1039
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 22: we shouldn't have bought the Trent one thousand and we

1040
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 22: should have bought, you know, the gen X engine, which

1041
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 22: is a general electric engine. We made that decision back

1042
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 22: in two thousand and four. We put it on a

1043
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 22: plane in twenty and fourteen. We had troubles with it

1044
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 22: in twenty and seventeen, and that trouble continues. They have

1045
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 22: to solve. I can't go back that far in two

1046
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 22: thousand and four.

1047
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: But it is what it is.

1048
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 4: Well, I get that, so you you got to deal

1049
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 4: with it.

1050
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 3: But it's an amazing thing that we appear to be

1051
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: the only yearline in the world that made it that poorly,

1052
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 3: doesn't it? I mean, if nobody else who had the

1053
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: same problems, But you can't. So somebody in somewhere made

1054
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 3: a massive cockup.

1055
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 22: I can. I can give you the names of those

1056
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 22: so I can tell you that we'rez are in Europe.

1057
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 3: Is comparing all they've got, Greg, We can't, Wiz. Is

1058
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 3: that what this has come down to. I'm giving you.

1059
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm giving you the airlines are flying to the country, Singapore, Emirates, Quantus, Qatar, United.

1060
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: These are our competitors. Wiz, there doesn't fly here.

1061
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 22: Well, you know what I will say, is that some

1062
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 22: of that is also scale mic. You know, when you

1063
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 22: run a smaller air line relatively, which is what we do,

1064
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 22: you can't afford to go and spread yourself with having

1065
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 22: like four different engines on a fleet. You've got all

1066
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 22: that extra tooling and all the other things. Because our

1067
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 22: wide bodied fleet is circle just over twenty. If you're

1068
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 22: running a business like United and you've got six hundred

1069
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 22: wide bodies, then you spread your bets. We generally have

1070
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 22: to take one or two bets. So we had Boeing

1071
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 22: on the wide body, Airbus on the narrowbody. That's appropriate.

1072
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 22: We run you know, a Trent on the wide bodied

1073
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 22: and we run Pratt and Whitney on the narrowbody. That's

1074
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 22: the right sort of decision making for an airline of

1075
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 22: our size, but it leaves you a bit vulnerable if

1076
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 22: things start to get tough.

1077
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 3: Okay, I understand that, look I have simply with your situation.

1078
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: It's just that you can imagine the text I get

1079
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 3: on a regular basis about any New Zealand's various service.

1080
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: Two quick questions London is it back?

1081
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: And when.

1082
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 22: Probably two and a half years, dependent on delivery from Boeing,

1083
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 22: we expect to get first new planes about the middle

1084
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 22: of next year. We want to boost up our services

1085
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 22: to New York and London is on the list. We

1086
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Speaker 22: do have the ability to go there. We do have

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Speaker 22: slots that are available right.

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Speaker 3: Second question was I read an article in the Sydney

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Speaker 3: Morning Herald and this is just one of many. At

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Speaker 3: the moment they are piling first class seats back into

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Speaker 3: planes as fast as they possibly can. Internationally, people are

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Speaker 3: prepared to pay seemingly any amount of money to fly

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Speaker 3: in luxury. Is what you're doing with the referb of

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Speaker 3: the airline going to miss the market by some margin?

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Speaker 22: Absolutely not great question. Good news is you know in

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Speaker 22: about four weeks time, maybe you and I'll have a

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00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 22: chat because by then the first of our retrofits comes

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Speaker 22: back in. Well, it's been hard work getting that done.

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Speaker 22: We're right on the cusp of getting the first one

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Speaker 22: back that does have all the new product in it included,

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Speaker 22: and that is what we call an ELITK front row.

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Speaker 22: When our customers get on there, you're going to see

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Speaker 22: about a thirty percent increase in premium. But having said that,

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00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 22: the whole plane has been retrofitted in the latest and

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00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 22: greatest we'll also have a new uniforms on it. It's

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00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 22: going to be great and we haven't missed the mark

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Speaker 22: at all. I think we're well timed for it and

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00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 22: the business is in a great position.

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Speaker 3: All right, good to talk to you. Appreciate it very much.

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Speaker 3: Greg Warrant, who is the New Zealand Chief Executive.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen Do I come on the mic Hosking Breakers Full

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00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: Show podcast on iHeartRadio cow Ad Bye News Talks at.

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Speaker 3: B It's eleven and from a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 3: first of all, clear Upwed going to be on the program,

1115
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 3: and I tell you the story, not not in any way,

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00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: shape or form to be mean or to ridicule her

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00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 3: or at all, but it's an interesting story. So clear

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Speaker 3: Arkhmed is the Chief Children's Commissioner and the figures came

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00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 3: out yesterday on child poverty. She was due on the program. Now,

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Speaker 3: she didn't turn up on the program. The reason she

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00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: didn't turn up on the programs because the phone was flat. Now,

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00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: the reason her phone was flat that not that that's

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Speaker 3: an excuse, but the phone was flat because she did

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Speaker 3: not take her charger from her office home with her

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Speaker 3: to her house to charge your phone up. Now, am

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Speaker 3: I the only person who thinks that. Firstly, if you're

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Speaker 3: on a job of some consequence, you might have more

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Speaker 3: than one charger. Two, If you don't have more than

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Speaker 3: one charger, is that not abnormal? And therefore you might

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Speaker 3: want to do something about that. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: by a second charger so that maybe you can have

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00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: one in the office and one at home. And does

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00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 3: it surprise you that somebody with a job of consequence

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00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 3: cannot communicate with the world because their phone is flat

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: because they only have one charger as opposed to too

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00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 3: and if one and there's two ways of seeing this. One,

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00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: if the government can't afford a second charger, then there's

1138
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: something wrong with the government. Or two, if she can't

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00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: have the wherewithal within her salary to buy herself a

1140
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 3: second charger, then something's wrong with her. Once again, I reiterated,

1141
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 3: I'm not making fun of her. I'm just saying that's

1142
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: what happened this morning. That's a reality. That's an outworking

1143
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: of the way some people run their lives, in the

1144
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: way some people think about how they run their lives

1145
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 3: and their job and their role. Now, she was due

1146
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 3: to come on the biggest radio program in this country

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00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: by some margin with what I'm assuming is a reasonably

1148
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: important issue to her, i e. Child poverty. But she

1149
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: couldn't because she didn't have a second charger. That smacks

1150
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 3: to me of third world thinking and third world behavior.

1151
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: Does or does it not?

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00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 20: Well?

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00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 9: I mean a lot of the big phonemakers don't include

1154
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:44,839
Speaker 9: charges in the box these days.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't give them monkeys, Glenn, go buy twenty charges now.

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00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 3: Second point, I won't repeat what Glenn said to me

1157
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 3: during the ad break about Greg for it, but you

1158
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 3: can imagine what it is.

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00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 20: Well, you can't illegally can't.

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Speaker 3: No, legally I can't. That's quite right. But Glenn, he

1161
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: speaks on behalf of I suspect about eighty seven point

1162
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 3: eight percent of you, and you can imagine what he said.

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Speaker 3: And this is the difficulty I have. I have tremendousympathy

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00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 3: with Greg Furan. I like the guy. I think he

1165
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: came in at an inopportune time from Walmart and he

1166
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 3: looked at the place and he went, what the hell

1167
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 3: have I brought myself into? And he's stuck with it

1168
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: and it's not his fault. They weren't his decisions that

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00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 3: the engines didn't turn up, and that the planes he

1170
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: ordered haven't turned up either, and so he's stuck. And

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00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: we're in a little country at the bottom of the

1172
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Speaker 3: world with an airline that has lost the room in

1173
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: terms of our love for it. We hate it. I don't,

1174
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 3: but lots of people do. Our patients with the National

1175
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: Airline has run out. But it's critical that we hold

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00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: true because we own a chunk of it. In fact,

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Speaker 3: we own the majority of it, and one day it

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Speaker 3: might come right. I pray to God it does. But

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Speaker 3: their behavior in the last handful of years has been reprehensible,

1180
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Speaker 3: and that's why people hate them. The debate, obviously, is

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00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 3: that reprehensible behavior. How much of it's them and they're

1182
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: incompetence versus how much of it is beyond their control?

1183
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: In other words, should they have had another phone charger?

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Speaker 9: It's not beyond their control. Don't shared your a flight

1185
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 9: if you can. If you can't do it, that's that's

1186
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 9: the problem.

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Speaker 10: Is this.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go back to the ad break there, Glenn,

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Speaker 3: where you're just oh, we're not on the ads yet.

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Speaker 1: No.

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00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: I hate minutes away from it.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking breakfast with the range Rover of the

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Speaker 1: Lawn News togs Head B what question.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a version of migrant abuse here at work

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Speaker 3: this morning, but without the migrants, because I think they're

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Speaker 3: both born here. Helen, who produces Kerry Woodham Show, has

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00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 3: been doing Kerry's hair this morning. Now is that above

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Speaker 3: and beyond the call of a producer?

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Speaker 19: Now?

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Speaker 3: I went and got my haircut yesterday by a professional.

1201
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Speaker 3: Now should I be getting Sam to do my hair?

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Speaker 3: So the reason that we're getting tarted up this morning

1203
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: is because I keep telling Kerry this. I said, Kerry Love,

1204
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Speaker 3: there's no need to take yourself up. There's a natural

1205
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: beauty there that you don't need to enhance any firs.

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Speaker 3: Those are the words I used to wear a regular basis. Uh,

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Speaker 3: the Prime Minister's coming in for some chat up to

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Speaker 3: nine o'clock and Kerry likes to dole herself up for

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Speaker 3: the occasion. Clearly she normally gets a professional in the

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Speaker 3: professional clean not available today. So Helen has been wielded

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Speaker 3: into run some curls through the hair. So is that

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Speaker 3: migrant abuse minus the Factori's migrant?

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Speaker 20: Helen was having a lot like that nail salon and it's.

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Speaker 3: Not dissimilar in Gudsney Street. Yeah, and does it interfere

1215
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 3: with the prep of the program, because while you're rolling

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Speaker 3: the curlers, you can't prep for the program, can you?

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00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 3: So is the program going to suffer because of the

1218
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Speaker 3: hair curls? These are the things we're going to be

1219
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: talking about after Rate with Katie and Tim Mike host game.

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Speaker 1: We've insightful, engaging and vital the Mic Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 1: a Vita, Retirement, Communities, life, your Way, youth, dogs head, b.

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Speaker 14: Indeed you fool little crow. It had a whole that

1223
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Speaker 14: no good at tidy.

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Speaker 3: At the end of the So, this bloke's called Strange

1225
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 3: by name and nature. Was raised on fear. His family

1226
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 3: told them scary stories to teach life lessons, and at

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01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: an early age he started watching scary movies for practice

1228
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Speaker 3: being strong. The album is called Oh No, Sorry, My apologies.

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Speaker 3: He's called Barties Strange. The album's called.

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Speaker 14: Poland then time he went aside to take some time

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Speaker 14: to get.

1232
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 3: Genre bending threads of the music as dad introduced him to.

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01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: His dad introduced them to Parliament Funkadelic, Teddy Pendergrass and Fleetwood,

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Speaker 3: Mac's Still.

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Speaker 20: Nobody, It's I do actually hear about.

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Speaker 3: World tracks and forty two minutes of batis strange.

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Speaker 1: The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fear

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Speaker 1: for Kiwi business.

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Speaker 3: Tom Wilson, how are you.

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Speaker 10: I'm good, I'm good. Birth your camera mile teacup clacking

1241
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Speaker 10: against the microphone. I feel like I can hear a

1242
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 10: teacup tickling.

1243
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 14: Oh, whoops, that's me.

1244
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: You're a little cup of tea.

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01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 6: The apologies?

1246
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 17: Have you got the question sharing collagen into my tea?

1247
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 17: Because you get to a certain age and you have

1248
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Speaker 17: to really go hard on protein.

1249
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Speaker 19: En.

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Speaker 10: Oh, let's start talking about tomatoes then, since we're doing

1251
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Speaker 10: the old person talk. What I what I've realized about you, Mike,

1252
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Speaker 10: is with your glasshouse, you've christ churchised tomato. Growing up

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Speaker 10: north would have gone along season. First of all christ

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Speaker 10: Church up.

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Speaker 3: Or first of all christ it's funny you should raise that.

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Speaker 3: First of all, it's a winter garden, it's not a glasshouse.

1257
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Speaker 3: But your point is interesting. Last night on the news

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Speaker 3: I watched the crime rate in christ Church has allegedly

1259
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 3: gone through the roof, absolutely skyrocketed. It's carnage in christ Church,

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01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 3: and so I'm just carnage.

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 17: Is probably a stretch but I do think it's it's

1262
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 17: indicative because I remember saying to you when Auckland was going,

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Speaker 17: because my sister lives there and she'll be quite competitive

1264
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Speaker 17: about crime levels, and of course, being an Oakland I

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Speaker 17: always lose. And she was telling me how safe christ

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Speaker 17: churches and so whenever there's a ram raid or anything,

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Speaker 17: I always send it to her. And yesterday I saw

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Speaker 17: that there was some crime in christ Church and I

1269
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 17: said to her months ago, it's just, it's just it's

1270
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Speaker 17: gonna happen. What happens in Auckland will get there eventually.

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Speaker 17: It'll just take a bit longer. And now it's there, and.

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Speaker 3: You reveled in its points not as safe as your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: It's cold and crime ridden.

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Speaker 10: Now you were you doing? Were you doing Kate's voice, Mike?

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Speaker 3: I wasn't.

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01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 10: Everyone says Mike's voice, Well.

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Speaker 6: I can, but no, I don't want to.

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01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 23: What I do?

1279
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Speaker 19: I do think.

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Speaker 17: I hear enough of his voice, and I'm sure the

1281
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 17: listeners do too. But what I thought was funny this

1282
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 17: morning was Greg Forren trying to defend in New Zealand,

1283
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 17: which is like, forget it. And what I loved it

1284
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 17: when he sounded so optimist. I loved it when he

1285
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 17: said and new uniforms are coming. It's like, mate, they

1286
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 17: could be in sex. I just want playing to leave.

1287
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, have you been talking to Glenn again?

1288
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 3: He's he's like saying the same thing to me. To

1289
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 3: be fear to Greg. And I like Greg and I

1290
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: want him to do well, and I wanted in New

1291
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 3: Zealand to do well. But I think he probably got

1292
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: a little fizzy on the fact that they were painting

1293
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 3: the planes and the fact they had new uniforms. Because

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01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 3: I don't know that any no one, no one gives

1295
01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: a monkey's if.

1296
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 10: They just wanted to leave on time.

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Speaker 3: If you could turn up in a Quantus uniform and

1298
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 3: some Crocs but the plane took off, we'd be happy.

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Speaker 17: Would you should be getting a deal with Crocs at

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Speaker 17: this point?

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Speaker 3: I should be. Actually I've received no freebies from Crocs whatsoever,

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Speaker 3: because I put them on the Did you see the

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Speaker 3: Burks court case earlier on today in Germany?

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Speaker 4: No books?

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Speaker 3: What's that Burks wanted their shoe to be seen as

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Speaker 3: art by being seen as art than they can protect

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Speaker 3: it legally more easily. The judge turned them down and

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Speaker 3: play they are not art.

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Speaker 10: It's a show.

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Speaker 20: What about if you wear them with socks?

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Speaker 3: You see?

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Speaker 4: Oh that is a crime?

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Speaker 10: That what about it? What about if you wear them

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Speaker 10: as ear rings? Could be a bit.

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Speaker 3: You're an idiot? Would next quick question? I'm going to play.

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Speaker 3: I want to play a game after the break called

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Speaker 3: is Micah Snob? Are you in for that? It's good?

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Speaker 3: It's a good new guy?

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Speaker 6: Is is immediately?

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Speaker 14: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, just let's just go to the break and

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Speaker 10: confirm it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, yeah. If you landed in Toronto and you

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Speaker 3: slid along the run way and the plane flipped upside down.

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Speaker 3: But and this is not to make jokes of you know, disasters,

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Speaker 3: because this wasn't a disaster. It was just an accident

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Speaker 3: and everybody got off. Is thirty thousand dollars recompense? And

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Speaker 3: how do you come up with that? And does that

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Speaker 3: once and for all tim prove that people think money

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Speaker 3: solves all ills because I can't work out what thirty

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Speaker 3: thousand does for you. If your plane was upside down you.

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Speaker 10: Got off, that's I mean, I'll take it if I'm

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 10: of course, But does.

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Speaker 3: It solve your problem? Does it fix it?

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Speaker 19: Does it go?

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Speaker 3: Does that set the precedent going right. Next time your

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Speaker 3: planes upside down, it's thirty grand.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, no, it does, it does.

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Speaker 4: And you're right.

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Speaker 10: Money doesn't solve anything. Money creates problems. We forget that.

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Speaker 17: In America, that's all they know what to do is

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Speaker 17: write checks. I mean, that's that's how that whole system works.

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Speaker 10: That's the well. But then again, Toronto, So is this

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Speaker 10: in the American system or then because you think.

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Speaker 3: It's the recon system, it's the it's the it's and

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Speaker 3: it was seventy six, only seventy six people? And do

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Speaker 3: they do the numbers? Think about this at headquarters of Delta?

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Speaker 3: I mean, Greg, a lot of them are critically injured,

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Speaker 3: weren't they now three people? Three people went to hospital?

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Speaker 10: Yes, but but okay, but oh this is this is weird.

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Speaker 3: But this is why I raised Okay, so hold on,

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Speaker 3: you were saying this. It was critically injured off from

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Speaker 3: the thirty. The guy got off and he gets thirty

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01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 3: as well. What's that about?

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Speaker 10: Should shouldn't we go to the injured?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: The injured people should get more, they should get a minute,

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Speaker 10: all right?

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Speaker 3: And what about the kumars who leaves the country and

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Speaker 3: who doesn't call it?

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Speaker 10: No, it's not you know what, I think the parents

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Speaker 10: have broken the lord. They should lose. The son is

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Speaker 10: the innocent victim. He should stay.

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Speaker 3: But is he a victim now because he's all by himself?

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Speaker 4: But I mean he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's eighteen. Would you leave you're eighteen year old in

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Speaker 3: another country as you got booted out?

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Speaker 17: Well, not me, because I'm a helicopter mother.

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Speaker 6: But no, I probably wouldn't have run the risk in

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Speaker 6: the first place.

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Speaker 2: She wouldn't.

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Speaker 10: You wouldn't even leave her in the mall a foreign country, right.

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Speaker 3: No, we got too many texts people are insisting we

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Speaker 3: play as micro snop. More shortly fourteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Husking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, power It

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Speaker 1: by News Talks.

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Speaker 3: It'd be seventeen past eight the Weekend.

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Speaker 4: Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions.

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Speaker 3: To the table, early reports and Mike, you don't have

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01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 3: to play the quiz. You are a snop, so there,

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Speaker 3: very much, so quickly.

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Speaker 17: I think something people need to understand is that even

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01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 17: as a child, and I've confirmed this with Nana, and

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Speaker 17: even when you had nothing, you were a snop and

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01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 17: you wanted the finer things in life.

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Speaker 3: Even when I had nothing.

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Speaker 17: Yes, even when you were young, you always, you always

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Speaker 17: stuff you couldn't afford us. Sixteen year olds, for example,

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Speaker 17: would buy a beaten up old. Well, let's speaking of

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Speaker 17: term Suzuki swift. Let's say, for example, you wanted to

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Speaker 17: buy like an old jack, not a person.

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Speaker 20: And OK, so let's not be jack.

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Speaker 14: Exactly.

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01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 10: When I when I interviewed Mike in the nineties at

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Speaker 10: Radio New Zealand, he had dollar signed cufflinks and the

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Speaker 10: the aura true, that was true, That's so true, that's true, disturbing.

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Speaker 20: One of the only five five first mobile phones in

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Speaker 20: the country.

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Speaker 3: As well, I had a motor roll of brick. I

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01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 3: had a motor roll of brick. I was about, this

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01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 3: is true, this is pathetic. I was earning seven and

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Speaker 3: a half or it might have been eight and a

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01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: half thousand dollars a year, and I had a two

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01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: and a half thousand dollar phone. Here we go, two

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01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 3: and a half thousand dollar phone hanging, and I've still

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01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 3: got the spade. I've got a two and a half

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01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: thousand dollar phone on eight and a half thousand dollars

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01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 3: a year, and I've also got a two and a

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01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 3: half thousand dollars better video machine. Then with what was

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 3: left of my salary, I went out and brought it

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01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 3: two an a half thousand dollar motorbike. So I've spent

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01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 3: my entire ye might sandwich and I didn't think about

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01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: what I do for food anyway. Be that doesn't my

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01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 3: quick question, Debbie, Now we're a packer not knowing what's

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01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 3: going on in the Pacific in any way, shape or form.

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01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 3: Am I being a snob in expecting better of public representation? Tim?

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01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 10: Go? Yeah, I think she needs she needs to know.

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Speaker 10: I don't think you're being a snob. It's just requesting

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01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 10: something of leadership. She's the leader of taparty Marley. She

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01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 10: she needs to be across that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I would say, good answer, Katie. Your answer, Yeah, you've.

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Speaker 4: Got one job.

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Speaker 17: You're in parliament, you're representing the people. You should be

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 17: across the issues of the day. That was a massive issue,

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01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 17: up and down all over the news. You can't have

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 17: missed it. She sat in the house, she even asked

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01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 17: a question about it, So I actually don't believe that

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01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 17: she didn't.

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01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 3: Know what was going So she's a liar. But that's

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01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 3: still my same question. Should we expect better of public officials.

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01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 3: Second question, you see it.

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 10: Maybe it may be something, but it may be something

1433
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 10: about t Pati Marti, who only care about a particular

1434
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 10: segment of of of the electorate. So what the desert

1435
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 10: is it? Is it the extremity of m MP.

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01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 3: The extremity of the m m P. Very good point, Katie,

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01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 3: bean bag trays one, do we have one? I can

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01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: answer that now we don't. Of course we don't be

1439
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 3: bad trays and eating dinner on your knee. Am I

1440
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 3: brought one of those?

1441
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 6: You get them at Briscoe's.

1442
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 17: I saw them the other day. Actually they No, we

1443
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 17: don't have them, but I have actually purchased one in

1444
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 17: the past for one of the children when they were

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01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,840
Speaker 17: unwell to have to have meals in bed. But no,

1446
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 17: I don't think I think you should sit up at

1447
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 17: the table and be a family and communicate and then

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01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 17: that's your absolutely no phones, no screens, engage.

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01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,719
Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm not being a snob.

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01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 10: No, No, you're actually this is this is because because

1451
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 10: you're a massive introvert. But you're you're attempt you're you're

1452
01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 10: defending social interaction. I'm constantly confiscating leg from the boys

1453
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,439
Speaker 10: at the table drawings, all sorts of stuff. You want

1454
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 10: to sit at the table, look at one another and talk.

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01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 3: It's Sam, Sam seas and this is a not unfair point.

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01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 3: He's by himself, He's lonely. Sam's very lately. So he

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01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 3: defends sitting down on a on a bean bag, sitting

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01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 3: in front of the television, watching the teley.

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01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 10: With his partners at work.

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01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 17: That's fair enough.

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01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 7: I defend that.

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01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 3: If what about the fact he doesn't have a dining table?

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: Am I a snob by seducing everyone should have a

1464
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 3: dining tablement?

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 17: Probably you realize one of our sons, the one living

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01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 17: in the UK, is an a flat that has no

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 17: dining table. I mean it's not not everyone has a

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01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 17: dining table.

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01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 3: That's the scott Well, that's why I'm asking, am I

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01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: stop by expecting him to have a dining tab. If

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01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 3: we go to Scotland this year and walk in the

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01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: door and I go, for God's sake, Josh, where is

1473
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 3: your dining table? Is he going to look at me

1474
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 3: and Stobb?

1475
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,879
Speaker 10: I think what you're what you're doing is you're defending

1476
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 10: the relationships. So they need a dining table where they

1477
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 10: can make time.

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01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 3: Sam Ceesar's got one outside.

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 10: Okay, we'll go out. That's good for summer.

1480
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 3: And my my question would bring it in.

1481
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 10: Maybe he could wrap his bean bag tray around himself

1482
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 10: in the winter, keep himself.

1483
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 3: So what we've concluded, and this is very helpful for me,

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 3: I'm not a snob.

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01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 10: I think you're Okay, Yeah, you're still a snob.

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01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 17: I mean those were good examples. We can give different examples.

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 10: I thought there would be different Yeah, I thought there'd

1488
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 10: be different questions. To be honest.

1489
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sorry, but we're playing that. They're my rules.

1490
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 17: I think we're talking about your desire to only wear

1491
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 17: one hundred percent Marino and not having at or cotton

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01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 17: fabric anyone in your skin, and only sleeping linen sheets

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Speaker 17: and only.

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Speaker 3: Bottle and myself.

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Speaker 19: You know.

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Speaker 10: Why is your Oh well, your voice has just gone

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Speaker 10: up in octave.

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Speaker 3: visiting your local Chemist Warehouse store, you can do it

1516
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,120
Speaker 3: online if you like. Collect and save time, fast delivery,

1517
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 3: same day home delivery for goodnes sake, everyone's doing home delivery.

1518
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,639
Speaker 3: Taes and season charges may apply. It's Chemists Warehouse, Great

1519
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: savings every day. Ask there's a difference between being a

1520
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 3: snob and having class. You have class, you're not. It's

1521
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: not that's very nice. But Mike, everyone loves Marina. You

1522
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 3: see everyone loves Marina. What's not to love about Marina?

1523
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,880
Speaker 3: Mike ree crocs. Check out the US class action A

1524
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: Kroc class action, a craction. It's only on a Friday.

1525
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 3: I find that stuff amusing. Really, two very successful airlines, Mike,

1526
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 3: Emirates and Singapore never changed the plane, Libery never changed

1527
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 3: the uniform. Listens there. I think that's true. Actually, isn't

1528
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,560
Speaker 3: it when you think about it. You know what's on

1529
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 3: the shop windows one thing, but it's what's behind the

1530
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 3: shop window and behind the counter that recounts. Don't you

1531
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 3: reckon Clive Palmer? I watched him this week, just so funny. Anyways,

1532
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 3: he's back with another political party for the pending election.

1533
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 3: We'll look at this and a whole bunch of other

1534
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 3: stuff with our good mate Murray Olds after the News,

1535
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 3: which is next to us talk said.

1536
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: News, opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking breakfast

1537
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: with the range Rover, the LA designed to intrigue and

1538
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: use talks.

1539
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 3: Dead be Mike, I'm with you and Marino. That was

1540
01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 3: very entertaining. Thank you, Cares. Mike kesh Bettel confirmed as

1541
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: FBI director. You've got the number on front of me,

1542
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 3: fifty one forty nine. Collins didn't go with them. They've

1543
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: got three to move, so she went the other day.

1544
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,560
Speaker 3: McConnell didn't. Who was mcconnall didn't go for he was

1545
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 3: the other guy got confirmed just the other day. McConnell

1546
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 3: refused to. Doesn't really matter. So they seem to lose

1547
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 3: one Republican vote each time there's a confirmation. No, it

1548
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 3: was RFK, No it was RFK. McConnel couldn't live with RFK,

1549
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 3: so Collins couldn't live with Patel Butt anyway. Fifty one

1550
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 3: forty nine winner twenty three minutes away from.

1551
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 8: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of

1552
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 8: mind for New Zealand business.

1553
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 3: Mary Old, greeting to you, they might good morning to you.

1554
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: I was just reading my copy of the Australian Woman's

1555
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,679
Speaker 3: Weekly this week, very very interested in getting the inside

1556
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 3: d skinny from Jody on the wedding and it's going

1557
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 3: to be a small and intimate affair. What a dumb

1558
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 3: article in the sense that that didn't even spill the

1559
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 3: details on winter it is. It'll be sometime late spring

1560
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: or and summer or whatever.

1561
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 23: They They all need copy out there, They all need

1562
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 23: copy and what bit of copy. I mean, I see

1563
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:02,160
Speaker 23: Carl Stefanovic was out there interviewing Dutton for the sixty

1564
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 23: Minutes piece and Sol and Jody get the Women's Weekly.

1565
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: The he was celebrating twenty years on the Today Show

1566
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: last week or the week before or something like that.

1567
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, do you exit around long time?

1568
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1569
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: Exactly while I've got you.

1570
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 20: Just the Do you still work for two GB?

1571
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I do, Yep, yep, the reading yesterday Singo Singleton.

1572
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 3: Why would nine be looking to unload the radio assets

1573
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 3: when they've got a newspaper and we all know the

1574
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 3: future of newspapers, and they've got a free to wear

1575
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: television channel and we all know the future of free

1576
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: to wear television channels. When they've got a radio group

1577
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 3: of assets, and we know how well radio is doing,

1578
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: why would they unload them?

1579
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 10: Oh?

1580
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't think radio is doing as well as they want.

1581
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 2: I mean, is that your faint m mark there we are?

1582
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 23: I mean, you know, if they had me at twenty

1583
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 23: four to seven the joint regards with the roof. Look,

1584
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,000
Speaker 23: the fact of the matter is it's really I think

1585
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 23: nine looks at the radio business, the radio arm of

1586
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 23: the business, and thinks, well, it's the full stuff at

1587
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 23: the bottom of the question mark, because there are many

1588
01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 23: question marks. They have a traditional media over here, Fridaware Telly.

1589
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 23: Of course you've got you know, the old Masthead newspapers,

1590
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 23: the heritage brands like the Age, the Sidney Morning Herald

1591
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 23: and the Financial Review.

1592
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 2: Those numbers aren't as strong as there were three four.

1593
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 23: Five years ago. I mean, people are getting his stuff online.

1594
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 23: So I'm much sure exactly the strategy for nine. They've

1595
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 23: got a whole bunch of new people coming in. It's

1596
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 23: going to be fascinating to see which way they go.

1597
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 3: Well, because itally in this country. The television's in the

1598
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,639
Speaker 3: world of pain newspapers and the world of pain radio

1599
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 3: is booming in this country because you're on mate.

1600
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know, I.

1601
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: Didn't want to say that, Murray, but you know sometimes

1602
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:44,520
Speaker 3: counter boy with the facts.

1603
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 2: Very good.

1604
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: Anyway, So back to Welbo. Sorry are we thinking? April

1605
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 3: twelve and what's I mean? The poles look like crap

1606
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 3: and Michelle came to his rescue to a little bit

1607
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 3: but a quarter points hardly an election winners.

1608
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's about sentiment.

1609
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 23: It's not going to win the election, no, but It's

1610
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 23: about sentiment and if people are out there struggling as

1611
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 23: they have been for a long time, and they can

1612
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 23: see that quarter of one percentage point to rate drop

1613
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 23: in the official cash rate, the banks that they're going

1614
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 23: to pass it on immediately and in the big skiff

1615
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 23: you've got a million dollar mortgage, it is nickel and dime.

1616
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 23: You're right, But it's just that sentiment and that's what

1617
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 23: Albaneze is hoping will carry them over the line in

1618
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 23: the election because the polls are pointing to a Dutton

1619
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 23: minority government. The latest News poll, Mike, where am i

1620
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 23: Here's got some Just bear with me with a couple

1621
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 23: of figures. Labour's primary vote right, that's the number of

1622
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,320
Speaker 23: people say I will vote Labor. It's stuck on an

1623
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 23: equal record low of thirty one percent. They got thirty

1624
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,400
Speaker 23: two and a half in twenty twenty two.

1625
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 2: The coalition. Where are we here?

1626
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 23: The Coalition's gone down by one percent but still at

1627
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 23: thirty eight percent. So that's an election winning lead, but

1628
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 23: not enough seats going Dutton's way to form a majority government.

1629
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 3: People have got to understand, because no one understands you

1630
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 3: dumb preferential system. But what they've got to understand is

1631
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 3: they need they need an eighteen seat grab and no

1632
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: one thinks they're going to get it, do they.

1633
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: Well it's such a huge ask.

1634
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 23: And don't forget no first term government's been kicked out

1635
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 23: over here since nineteen thirty one, so history's against Peter Dutton.

1636
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 23: Having said that, he has been a remarkable campaigner. He's

1637
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 23: taken you know, the all the notes from the Donald

1638
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 23: Trump and Tony Abbott playbook and he's just out there,

1639
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 23: just cracking on and.

1640
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 3: Still boring those I was watching he was doing a

1641
01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 3: Jewish interview yesterday. There was a sort of a Jewish gathering.

1642
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 3: I was watching it on Sky and I mean, god,

1643
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 3: he's flat. I mean someone should be sticking a rocket

1644
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: up on him. You know, he's saying the right things.

1645
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 10: He just.

1646
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 3: Mate just like wake up anyway. But the point being,

1647
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:47,559
Speaker 3: it'll be a minority. And this is where it'll get

1648
01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 3: interesting for you. Because we have MMP and so we

1649
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 3: got a bunch of bunch of parties running the country.

1650
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 3: You're going to have a bunch of punch parties running

1651
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 3: the country. Presumably the Teals, the Greens, maybe and Labor.

1652
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 23: It depends how many independent to left because there's no

1653
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 23: way known the Teals will deal with Peter Dutton. There's

1654
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 23: no way known the Greens will. They look at Dutton

1655
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,440
Speaker 23: as political kryptonite.

1656
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Melbourne's is gonna win. He's gonna lose, but

1657
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: he's gonna win. He'll be able to stitch together a

1658
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: minority government.

1659
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 23: Pardon yeah, well, yeah, that's right. And you know you've

1660
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 23: got people like Bob Katter whose hat's always been on

1661
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 23: too tight. He's from Queensland, the same as Peter Dutton.

1662
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,960
Speaker 23: And you know, you just imagine, don't you. If Katty

1663
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 23: gets back and he's very popular up in his electric

1664
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 23: and far North Queensland, he will definitely be in the

1665
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 23: Dutton camp.

1666
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: But it won't be enough.

1667
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 23: No, he needs eighteen seats, as you say, and on

1668
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 23: these figures he'll get maybe eight or nine.

1669
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 3: I watched Palmer do his life thing the other day.

1670
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 3: Happen to be watching it when it was on the

1671
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 3: woman who's running the party. I assume her name was Sharon,

1672
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 3: and we are going to do that, and I thought

1673
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 3: the anyway she stood aside and then she goes Now

1674
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,680
Speaker 3: we've got time for some questions, but only four or

1675
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: five because I've got a plane to catch to the hunter,

1676
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 3: and I thought, here we goes. So anyway, none of

1677
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: the questions were for her, and they all ask Palmer. Palmer, actually,

1678
01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 3: to my mind, makes an element of sense if you

1679
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: believe in that Trump esque style of politics, because he

1680
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 3: seems sort of affable, articulate, you know, and rich, Yeah,

1681
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 3: very rich, because he's spending nineteen minutes. God, I know,

1682
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 3: but ninety million dollars he's going to spend to do what.

1683
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 23: Well, to try and get one or two people from

1684
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 23: his party up and will I just can't see that happening.

1685
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just regarded as a joke, a rich joke.

1686
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: Ninety million dollars for no particular result. That seems weird.

1687
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 23: Oh he is a weird guy. I mean, look when

1688
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,679
Speaker 23: he spent last election, he got weird. One seat one

1689
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 23: seat and that guy he wears a tinfoil hat. I

1690
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 23: swear to goodness he wouldn't go to the shop for milk.

1691
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 23: He'd come back with a loaf of bread. Honest to god,

1692
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 23: I promise.

1693
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:43,560
Speaker 3: Tell you what this way. Ella's steel thing fascinates me

1694
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: because we lost a mill a couple of weeks ago

1695
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 3: in this country two undred and thirty jobs. Small town.

1696
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 3: We got a conservative government, they're never going to buy it.

1697
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 3: But what Melanowskis has done, backed up presumably by Elbow,

1698
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 3: to take over the steel mill to save the jobs.

1699
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 3: Would he have done it if it wasn't election year?

1700
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 23: Good question, but I think yes because look the key

1701
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 23: takeaway from me from that news conference that Albaneze stood up.

1702
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 23: He said, we cannot just be a place where we

1703
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 23: dig stuff up out of the ground and ship it

1704
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 23: off shore. We have to have a manufacturing industry of

1705
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 23: some sort. And you know it's a massive money spinner

1706
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 23: steel aliuminium as well, notwithstanding Donald Trump's threats to hit

1707
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 23: US with tariffs. So two point four billion dollars, eleven

1708
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 23: hundred direct jobs in Whyala. You've got to town there

1709
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 23: of twenty two thousand people, and it makes the bulk

1710
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 23: I think seventy five percent of Australian steel. It's got

1711
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 23: to be kept going otherwise you're going to have a

1712
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 23: big black hole at the top of the golf, the

1713
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 23: Spencer Golf, and the lights will go out in Whyala

1714
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:43,679
Speaker 23: and they won't be turned on again.

1715
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 3: But the problem, the problem is that I know what

1716
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 3: you're saying, But the problem is that once you sit

1717
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 3: the president, every small town in Australia is going to go, well,

1718
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 3: you bought Whyala, Why an't you buying us?

1719
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,560
Speaker 23: No, there's a special case with Whaler because it is,

1720
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 23: according to alban Easy, it's a critical industry. Steel make

1721
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 23: think you have to have some capacity to make high

1722
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,960
Speaker 23: end steel and apparently when the joint is working well,

1723
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 23: the workforce there is.

1724
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:07,719
Speaker 2: Second to none.

1725
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 23: They are the best in the business and it's a

1726
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Speaker 23: massive money spinder for Australia.

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Speaker 2: That's why almen Easy yet to come in. Did he

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Speaker 2: do it because the election? It wouldn't hurt, would it.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not sure you're worried about the Chinese ships

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Speaker 3: off you're sure?

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Speaker 23: Well, you know if they come cruising past to be

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Speaker 23: a cross opposite opposite your palatial mansion next week, seeing

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Speaker 23: what you're having for breakfast.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just do this stuff. They're allowed to.

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Speaker 2: They can come past.

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Speaker 23: We have no idea how sophisticated these things are, but

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Speaker 23: you imagine China makes good, cheap stuff. I'm sure they

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Speaker 23: can knock over a couple of radar things that can look.

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Speaker 2: In and see what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go. But do you think Sky's scumba is

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01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 3: going to get his photo album back? And if you

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01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 3: lost your photo album and it ended up on TikTok,

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01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 3: would you want it back?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, he may have been photoshopped and

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Speaker 2: all sorts of positions.

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Speaker 3: Hadn't thought about it that way, Murray, That's why you're

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01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: a rating success at two GB go well, mate, murrayots

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01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 3: it's fourteenth away from nine.

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Speaker 1: The Hike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 4: Howard By News talks.

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Speaker 3: At B just quickly eleven away from nine ACO, which

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Speaker 3: we didn't have time for. But Mike Burgess, who I

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01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: got a lot of time for ACOS the spy agency

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Speaker 3: in Australia, and he speaks publicly and that's what I

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Speaker 3: like about him. And you don't hear enough from the

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Speaker 3: spooks in this country because I'm sure they know some

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01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 3: fantastic stuff that they never tell us about. Anyway, Burgess

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01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:35,439
Speaker 3: spills all of it. He says five major terra plots

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01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 3: were foiled in the past year. Australia's never confronted so

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01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 3: many serious national security threats at once, unprecedented step off

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Speaker 3: to classifying the spy agency's security outlook. At least three

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Speaker 3: countries had plotted to physically harm people in Australia. The

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01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 3: next five years will be more volatile and dangerous than

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Speaker 3: the first half of the decade. He feared the attacks

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Speaker 3: of the Jewish community had not yet plateaued. Last year

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 3: lifted the nexttional terror level from possible to probable. Defense

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01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 3: personnel a being relentlessly targeted by foreign spies. Australia's entered

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01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,880
Speaker 3: a period of strategic surprise and security fragility. Now wouldn't

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01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 3: you want to I biture that's the same here and

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01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 3: they just don't say so. Next thing out of Australia.

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Speaker 3: Just to remind you before you leave the country to

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01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:18,560
Speaker 3: go to Australia thinking the life is going to be

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01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 3: so much better. Very good piece in the Herald yesterday

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Speaker 3: in Sydney life headline life is a productivity highway and

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01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,560
Speaker 3: Australia stuck in second year. So we're talking about productivity

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01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: yesterday with the Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Alora says productivity

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01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: is a major problem. We've got to get our act together.

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01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 3: So we look at Australia and we think they're so

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01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: much better, they're not when it comes to the economic freeway,

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01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 3: this nation and most others are traveling way too slowly.

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01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:42,560
Speaker 3: We've become a Volkswagen bus, as some fly pasted in

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,120
Speaker 3: the Lamborghini Hurricanes. United States, Germany, Belgium, Spain of all

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01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 3: improved their productivity levels over the past couple of years,

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Speaker 3: just as Australia's rate's gone backwards without improvements and productivity

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01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,560
Speaker 3: living standards stand still. So that's well worth reading. So

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 3: if you think Australia's flash, it ain't in terms of productivity.

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Speaker 3: So their problems are our Our problems are their problems.

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Speaker 3: Nine away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: My casting breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News togs had.

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Speaker 3: Be feeling this on the fly because it's just been

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Speaker 3: handed to me. Fonterra update this morning. Their forecast enings

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01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 3: range of forty to sixty cents to share strong first half,

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Speaker 3: currently forecasting a twenty four to twenty five farm gate

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01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 3: of ten they're still holding to that revises forecast collections

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01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 3: up to fifteen hundred and ten million kiler grams. So

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Speaker 3: I think that's all I can give you. Forty to

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Speaker 3: sixty percent. Skies just come in as in TV bit

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01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: soft little bit soft. Let me give you a couple

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01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 3: of numbers. Several one off items have masked a positive

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01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 3: underlying performance. That's their line, not mine. Revenue at three

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01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 3: eighty five or two percent down chun levels on customers

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01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,520
Speaker 3: have reduced a little bit of softness in the box revenues.

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,840
Speaker 3: That's been kind of offset partially by streaming net profit

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01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 3: after tacks of ten point nine reflecting the waiting of

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01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 3: costs the first half, they've got a bit of cash.

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01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:06,639
Speaker 3: They've reviewed their full year guidance down flat, but they're

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Speaker 3: still profitable. And there's not many people in the media

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01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 3: landscape that can say that these days this place can

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01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 3: and sky can stuff claimed to be but who would

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Speaker 3: know five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 4: Trending now with Chemist Warehouse stop paying too much.

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01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 3: So we've had the news this week that Kentucky Fried

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01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 3: Chicken are moving from Kentucky. We've also got the news

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Speaker 3: this morning that Popeyes have just announced their first Edinburgh location.

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01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 3: They've just opened in England Manchester upfit called Miami Crispy.

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01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,959
Speaker 3: They've also gone viral for its philet tower. Burger residents

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01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 3: not really happy. A lot of parking issues in that

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01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 3: part of the world a lot of rampant littering. Who

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01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 3: would have thought in Manchester they've gone and opened their

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01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,759
Speaker 3: fourth store in Rochdale. You really got to see Rochdale

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01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 3: to believe it. If you've never been to Rochdale, you

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01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: haven't lived anyway. This particular consumer affairs journalist reckons you've

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01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 3: got the answer.

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Speaker 24: The restaurant market in the UK is falling, but specific

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Speaker 24: fried Chicken up twelve percent. The number of outlets Fried

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Speaker 24: Chicken is unstoppable, and it's for a number of reasons,

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Speaker 24: mostly economics, and chicken is very cheap. It's significantly cheaper

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Speaker 24: than it used to be a generation or two ago.

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Speaker 24: The UK arm of Wingstop, which has only been going

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01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 24: a couple of years, they've got fifty eight outlets. They

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01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 24: want to open another twenty just before Christmas.

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Speaker 4: That got sold to.

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Speaker 24: An American private equity company for four hundred million pounds.

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01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 24: And Popeye's is also expanding very quickly. I mean, the

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01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 24: genius of chicken is that it's quite bland. You can

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01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 24: do anything with it. So pop I say they're in

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01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 24: the flavor business.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's an incredible consumer fears reporter and he's quite right.

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01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 3: Chicken is cheap, and if you gently pan fry it

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01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 3: and slice it thinly over summarugula, it's delicious. Where it

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01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: goes wrong is when you dip it in fat that

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 3: you've cooked like thousand other birds, and then feed it

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 3: to some slab who pays your two pounds fifty for it.

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Speaker 20: Why you're obviously not in flavored business.

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Speaker 3: May No, I'm not, am I a snob?

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Speaker 20: And sorry, fried chicken is unstoppable, mate, it's.

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01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: Fried chickens unswer. I say that quite often. No one

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01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: believes me, but I'm the consumer, appears Reporter Supercars as

1849
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 3: I see that's back. We've got a little bit of

1850
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 3: we've got chiefs crusaders, chiefs crusaders.

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Speaker 20: And I think that's a full on conclusion. We will

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01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 20: know it's going to happen.

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01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,679
Speaker 3: There exactly right, Glynn. And so don't be too depressed

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01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 3: on Monday when we talk about it. Anyway, you have

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01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 3: a no matter what you're doing this weekend, you have

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01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 3: fun and we'll see your Monday as always. Happy Days.

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