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Speaker 1: Okay, I've got a question for you, and this is

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Speaker 1: a genuine question, it's not a rhetorical question. Do you

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Speaker 1: agree with the teacher unions that it's an outrage that

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Speaker 1: Erica Stanford is taking the treaty obligation out of the

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Speaker 1: Education Act or do you agree with Erica Stanford that

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Speaker 1: it needs to come out now. I'm asking you this

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Speaker 1: question because I honestly cannot understand why the teacher unions

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Speaker 1: are causing uproar over this, because it seems to me

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Speaker 1: to be a clear case that this should come out.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't helped lift Maori achievement in the five years

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Speaker 1: it's been in the legislation. In fact, going by just

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Speaker 1: one metric, which is the proportion of Maori students leaving

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Speaker 1: school with no NCEEA qualification at all, it's getting worse.

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Speaker 1: It was twenty four percent and twenty twenty one. It's

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Speaker 1: now nearly twenty eight percent at last count. So if

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Speaker 1: this thing isn't helping, then it shouldn't be there because

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Speaker 1: all it is then is just virtue signaling and distracting

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Speaker 1: schools when schools should be, as the Minister said, laser

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Speaker 1: focused on educating kids. So this is where I ask

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Speaker 1: my question, OK, because this is where I get confused.

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't have to be in there, then why

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Speaker 1: are teacher unions picking this fight? Why are they fighting

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Speaker 1: for yet another pet ideological project. Did they not learn

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Speaker 1: from the allergic reaction that parents had to the news

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Speaker 1: that the number one thing on the ppta's agenda for

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Speaker 1: the meeting with the minister was Palestine. That went down

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Speaker 1: like a cup of cold sick. Is it not obvious

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Speaker 1: to the unions that they are losing the patients of

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Speaker 1: parents who've already had a guts full of an education

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Speaker 1: system that isn't educating their kids and teacher unions making

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Speaker 1: excuses for it, and teaching unions not wanting to have

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Speaker 1: to do more work. So it's one of two things

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Speaker 1: that's going on here for me right. Either teacher unions

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Speaker 1: really just cannot help themselves when it comes to yet

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Speaker 1: another political distraction and a chance to give a national

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Speaker 1: party a bloody knows or they know something that I

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Speaker 1: don't know, which is that they know that there is

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Speaker 1: enormous support out there for them fighting the good fight

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Speaker 1: on the treaty obligation for the boards of trustees. So

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Speaker 1: is that happening? Am I missing something here? Is their

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Speaker 1: massive support out there for teachers who are fighting this?

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Speaker 1: Or are they burning parents goodwill because they can't help themselves?

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Speaker 1: Yet again? Find with a national lead government yet again.

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