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Speaker 1: Very sober. As our senior political correspondent, he's with us

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Speaker 1: every Friday to wrap the week. That was Barry, Hello again,

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Speaker 1: Good a Ryan, Good to have you back. So get

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Speaker 1: the retailers. Are they going to start tackling these shoplifters.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, if you listen to the reaction, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: you'd say, that's what is The expectation is that anytime

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Speaker 2: a crop comes in, burly or not, he'll be tackled

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Speaker 2: by a poor store owner and the store owner will

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Speaker 2: be worse off. But it's not going to be that way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this has got to go through a select

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Speaker 2: committee process for a start before the law comes into being,

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Speaker 2: so there'll be a lot of submissions made on it.

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Speaker 2: But the thing is it gives them that tool if

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Speaker 2: they want to use it. It's some toe rag at

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Speaker 2: fourteen wanders in to grab a couple of packets and cigarette.

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Speaker 2: Then the store owner can detain them and call the cops,

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Speaker 2: and the cops can come and do what they will

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Speaker 2: with them. And it's like you know, Goldriz Garriman, as

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Speaker 2: I talked to you earlier this week, she was leaving

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Speaker 2: a shop with a tote bag. Somebody wanted to look

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Speaker 2: in it, she had stolen property in it, she wouldn't

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Speaker 2: turn it over and left the shop, only to have

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Speaker 2: it delivered later by somebody else. But you know, you

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Speaker 2: would tackle somebody like that. But if he's a early

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty cagey big fellow walking out of

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Speaker 2: a supermarket with a trolley full of stolen goods, you're

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Speaker 2: hardly likely as a store owner or an employee of

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Speaker 2: the company to tackle the person.

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Speaker 1: No, probably not, and probably will apply more to the

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Speaker 1: dairies than to any other big markets anyway. Now, Andrew

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Speaker 1: Bailey falling on his sword this week, it was all

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Speaker 1: a bit weird and hush where it was last week technically,

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Speaker 1: but then falling.

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Speaker 2: On carried on and on and on and now we

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Speaker 2: only found out about it this week. Yeah, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: the nobody actually has really said what occurred. And you

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Speaker 2: will have heard Mike hosking and that laborious three minutes

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Speaker 2: of him trying to get the Prime Minister to admit

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Speaker 2: that he would have sacked him if he hadn't fallen

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Speaker 2: on his sword. Well, the fact is, Mike I felt

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Speaker 2: was going totally over the top because everything he's complained

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Speaker 2: about the media and that's basically us being obsessed with

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Speaker 2: a sacking culture, us concentrating on the minushai, us doing

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Speaker 2: all sorts of things. He did everything himself as an interviewer.

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Speaker 2: When he interviewed the Prime minister, the Prime Minister was

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Speaker 2: reluctant to say he would sack him. He simply mentioned

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Speaker 2: the word demote, so Mike didn't quite get the sack

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Speaker 2: that he wanted, that he had accused the media of

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Speaker 2: being bloody minded about in the past. Nevertheless, that having

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Speaker 2: been said, I think the explanation could be and I've

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Speaker 2: done a lot of work around the beehive talking to

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Speaker 2: people that are fairly close to the situation. It wasn't

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Speaker 2: a sackable offense. Basically, it was a newbie in his office,

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Speaker 2: a young person that wasn't used to the cut and

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Speaker 2: thrust of politics. Obviously, Andrew Bailey is a tactile man.

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Speaker 2: If you know him, he's always touching.

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Speaker 1: People, even if you don't know him. He's a tech con,

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Speaker 1: that's right.

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Speaker 2: And he touched this guy on the The guy lodged

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Speaker 2: a formal complaint and Bailey looked at it and thought,

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Speaker 2: this has now got to go through a process. I

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Speaker 2: can't be bothered anymore, that says, I understand it. So

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Speaker 2: he said, okay, I'll resign my portfolios.

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Speaker 1: Which is what would have made it so difficult for

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister to answer the question right, because because

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Speaker 1: you don't, you don't want to say I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: sacked him, because then everyone on the other side will go, oh,

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Speaker 1: for goodness sake.

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Speaker 2: You're a week, you're a weekly, you're a week.

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Speaker 1: And he's punched him or something, you know. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's move on legislation to be introduced. This

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Speaker 1: is for a four year term of parliament. But mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a long, complicated process. Berry, It's going to take

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Speaker 1: a lot longer than four years to get there.

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Speaker 2: Well, look, it's a typical David Seymour. And this is

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Speaker 2: not to insult David Seymour, but if you look at

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Speaker 2: the end of Life Choice Bill. He introduced them and

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Speaker 2: it went on and on for years, Treaty Settlements Bill.

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Speaker 2: The idea is out there, people cogitate on the idea,

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Speaker 2: they debate it similarly. Four year term and I think

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Speaker 2: you know, David Tema was pretty good at doing this,

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Speaker 2: putting out an idea, getting the public like we are

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Speaker 2: at the moment to discuss it and have a thought

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Speaker 2: about it, and then maybe further down the track there

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Speaker 2: will be a binding referendum on it. I think there

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Speaker 2: would be an appetite now as there wasn't too previous

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Speaker 2: referenda to vote it down. I think people would vote

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Speaker 2: for the interesting.

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Speaker 1: I've done my column on for the Heal on Sunday

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Speaker 1: saying exactly the opposite, Barry, So, I've never read it that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: the Chinese warships and now the Chinese ambassador to Australia

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Speaker 1: has come out and has said, well, we've got nothing

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Speaker 1: to apologize for this, and we're going to keep doing this.

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Speaker 2: They'll do it more often. He's suggesting that. So, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Chinese are not being apologetic at all, and it

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Speaker 2: comes as no surprise. I mean, you know, they were

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Speaker 2: within their rights internationally. I don't know whether they are

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Speaker 2: in the rights to go in the Australian economic zone,

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Speaker 2: but nevertheless they did and they've been there.

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Speaker 1: But as long as they went fishing, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the thing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's actually true. It is, yeah, I mean the

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Speaker 2: live firing exercise, you would think they would have had

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Speaker 2: the good, well not the good, the good diplomatic duty

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Speaker 2: to let both Australia New Zealand nine. We had to

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Speaker 2: divert flight and that's quite serious, so you know, I

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Speaker 2: think they had to know.

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Speaker 1: Finally, you have to hand it to the Brits, don't

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Speaker 1: you going to the White House with all of the charm.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was brown nosing. It's at its worst,

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Speaker 1: but with the charm and the letter from the King,

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Speaker 1: and Trump was just a peg and shit, wasn't he Well?

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Speaker 2: Like I said earlier, you know, Trump loves the sort

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Speaker 2: of adoration and kiss starmer, the left of center prime

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Speaker 2: minister from Britain getting on with the right of center

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Speaker 2: president of the United States, and the way he did,

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Speaker 2: he knew to charm Trump charm was falling over himself,

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Speaker 2: oozing with charm. I mean, to watch them together, I

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Speaker 2: found it highly amusing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so did I. And he kept saying, this letter

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Speaker 1: is unprecedented, exactly rimming.

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Speaker 2: Here he is and he'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Very soph for great to see you, Nice to talk

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Speaker 1: to you, Ryan, Good on you, ver Verry so for

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