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Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate. Heather Duplicy Allen

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Speaker 1: on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities,

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Speaker 1: Life Your Way, News, togsad.

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Speaker 2: Bad morning, and welcome to the show. Coming out today.

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Speaker 2: We might have some good economic news coming our way

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Speaker 2: later on with the GDP number for Q three. We'll

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Speaker 2: get you across that with A and z's Sharon Zolner,

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Speaker 2: Jeff mcskimmings, the incentenced. His replacements been announced. New Deputy

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Speaker 2: Police Commissioner Mike Pannett's on the show, The Brook van

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Speaker 2: veldet on Canning. Finally the Silly Road Cone tip Line

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Speaker 2: and much new Walters of six sixty is in for

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Speaker 2: a song and a chat.

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Speaker 1: Heather dup for Cy Allen.

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Speaker 2: Well, surely to goodness, the judge throwing out that election

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Speaker 2: result in Auckland has started the clock ticking on postal

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Speaker 2: voting and council elections. I mean, this case may not

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Speaker 2: seem like a big deal, given that it involves just

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Speaker 2: seventy nine votes in just one subdivision in just one

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Speaker 2: relatively small local board election in Auckland. But the seventy

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Speaker 2: nine may be just the tip of the Iceberg. I

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Speaker 2: mean it may actually be that hundreds of ballot papers

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Speaker 2: and that subdivision was stolen from letterboxes, filled in and

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Speaker 2: then passed off as legit votes. Now Ken Turner from

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Speaker 2: the White Tarkety's other side of the city is also

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Speaker 2: considering legal options because he reckons something funny happened with

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Speaker 2: about two hundred and twelve votes in his election as well.

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Speaker 2: None of this surprises me because years ago, when friends

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Speaker 2: of mine were still flatting, as happens, mail turned up

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Speaker 2: for previous tenants. Some of that mate quite a lot

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Speaker 2: of that mail, Like we're talking close to about ten

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Speaker 2: to twelve pieces of that male were voting papers from

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Speaker 2: previous tenants. So my friends did what flatties do. They

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Speaker 2: filled the papers and sent them all back in as

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Speaker 2: legitimate votes. No one ever got in trouble for it.

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Speaker 2: We all know that the male voting system is ripe

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Speaker 2: for being gamed, but perhaps in our naivety, we hadn't

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Speaker 2: imagined it would go from a bunch of silly flatties

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Speaker 2: to what seems like it may have been an orchestrated

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Speaker 2: rigging of an election. At worst, postal voting should absolutely

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent go the way of the horse in

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Speaker 2: the cart. It is not the only reason so many

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Speaker 2: of us can't be bothered with council elections, but it

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Speaker 2: is a significant part of it. Be honest about it.

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Speaker 2: You get the mail, you pop it on the counter,

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Speaker 2: you forget about it, you find it after election day

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Speaker 2: as well passed, or you see it then then you

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Speaker 2: find it too hard to remember where to find a postbox.

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Speaker 2: Not only does it make it harder to vote, but

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Speaker 2: it also makes it we now now find out harder

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Speaker 2: to trust the election outcome.

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Over in the UK, the five day resident doctor strike

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Speaker 2: is underway and the Tories have got their target to blame.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he's not going to band doctor strikes. He

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Speaker 2: doesn't have the bullbles. We all know who's running their

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Speaker 2: party and it's not him. The trade unions didn't just

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Speaker 2: buy him for Christmas, they bought him for life. Starmer

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Speaker 2: is treating water on this.

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Speaker 3: Let me be clear about the stripes. They're dangerous and

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Speaker 3: utterly irresponsible. And my massive for resident doctors is don't

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Speaker 3: abandon patients. Work with us to improve conditions and rebuild

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Speaker 3: the NHS.

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Speaker 2: Now on BONDI the first of the funerals was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Rabbi Eli Schlanger was remembered.

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Speaker 4: To his colleagues and friends.

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Speaker 5: He was one of the another rabbi.

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Speaker 6: He was a force.

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Speaker 7: Each one of us here will honor Ellie by also

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Speaker 7: being so much more more Jewish, more proud, more loving.

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Speaker 2: Now, in the wake of that, the measure is going

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Speaker 2: to go after hate speech, with protesters who chan't globalize

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Speaker 2: the into fada to now be arrested.

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Speaker 6: What we're talking about today is going further. We're going

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Speaker 6: to make more arrests on some of the contentious phrases.

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Speaker 6: I think success for society is a society that's completely

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Speaker 6: hostile to antisemitism.

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Speaker 2: In the US, the Trump administration leaders are defending Susie

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Speaker 2: Wild's over that Vanity Fair piece where she criticized a

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Speaker 2: number of the higher ups, including JD. Vance.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe

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Speaker 8: in the conspiracy theories that are true. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: Susie and I have joked in private and in public

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Speaker 8: about that for a long time. I hope that the

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Speaker 8: lesson is we should be giving fewer interviews to mainstream

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Speaker 8: media outlets.

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Speaker 2: The writer Chris Whipple has defended the piece. He reckons

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Speaker 2: that there were eleven interviews throughout the year and all

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Speaker 2: of them were recalled. Now the sons of Imran Khan

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Speaker 2: have described the conditions he is facing in prison.

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Speaker 9: Then put on death row, have been put in these

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Speaker 9: small cells before, with barely any lights. Sometimes the electricity

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Speaker 9: has been cut off in the dirty water, as Carson

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Speaker 9: was saying, and just completely substandard conditions.

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Speaker 2: Now, finally, gen Z and TikTok have found the new

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Speaker 2: name for a woman who wants to see the manager. Now,

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Speaker 2: since the early tens, of course, that woman has been Karen.

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Speaker 2: This as if you're obnoxious or self absorbed, especially in

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Speaker 2: the retail sector. The new name for Karen's is Jessica.

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Speaker 2: So next time someone's being a bit of a stickler,

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Speaker 2: you can stop saying stop being a Karen, and you

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Speaker 2: can start saying stop being such a Jessica. And that

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Speaker 2: is news of the world. In ninety seconds, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you what. There are millions of these people around the world.

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Speaker 2: Premium users of pornharb are going to be feeling a

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Speaker 2: little bit stressed out. Today the site has been hacked

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Speaker 2: by a gang. The gang have reportedly accessed more than

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Speaker 2: two hundred million data recordscludes premium members' email addresses, what

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Speaker 2: they've been searching, what they've been looking at, where they live.

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Speaker 2: And this group is extorting Pornhub and demanding a payment

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Speaker 2: in bitcoin. And if they don't get paid in bitcoin,

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Speaker 2: they are going to publish the data and maybe even

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Speaker 2: delete some data. And you can imagine that that would

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Speaker 2: be pretty stressful to some people. So watch this as

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Speaker 2: it develops. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 2: I may have been a little premature the other day

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Speaker 2: when I said the Paramount has the lead in the

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Speaker 2: contest to buy Warner Brothers. Jared Kushner's firm as in

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Speaker 2: Trump's son in law Jared Krishna's firm was backing the

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Speaker 2: Paramount hostile, but he has now pulled his firm out.

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Speaker 2: He reckons the dynamics have changed. Still says the deal

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Speaker 2: makes sense, but this is being seen as something of

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Speaker 2: a boost to Netflix. Quarter past Smith Generators with us

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Speaker 2: Morning Greek mourning, Hey, how about that consumer confidence year?

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Speaker 7: We've got more green shoots. The weather's warming up, and

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Speaker 7: so are consumer spirits. Heading into the festive season, so

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Speaker 7: that's great news. This is the west BAC McDermott Miller

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Speaker 7: index that's climbing only six point five so conference is

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Speaker 7: at the highest level this year, so it splow one

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Speaker 7: hundred still meanss more pessimists and optimists, but definitely out

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Speaker 7: of the doldrums. Not quite parting mood yet yet but

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Speaker 7: perhaps getting there. I think nor do normally lift around

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Speaker 7: this time of year, But the real spark is expectations

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Speaker 7: about next year, optimism hitting its highest level since twenty

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Speaker 7: twenty one, and you look further out in net eleven

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Speaker 7: percent positive about the outlook over the next five years.

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Speaker 7: Morgagually for big reason. Thousands of borrowers, of course moving

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Speaker 7: on to lower rates. And despite what a few banks

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Speaker 7: one hundred and thirty points in a.

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Speaker 7: Your rates are falling even further, so that's putting money

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Speaker 7: spending attitudes as well. We've talked about cards spending lifting

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Speaker 7: jumped and Auckland, of all places, has become one of

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Speaker 7: carried away. Obviously, living costs is still binding. Jobs market

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Speaker 7: isn't humming yet. In the financial reality for many families

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Speaker 7: a mixed picture overall, but pockets are real momentum, a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to hear that now, how we're investors responding

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Speaker 7: Investors liked that. So the KEEVI market was weak overall,

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Speaker 7: deepening their push into Australia's making new acquisitions. They've picked

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Speaker 7: The company, it's been one of the standout performers across

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Speaker 2: And I see the Chinese really like the look of

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Speaker 2: the Meta AI.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they certainly do, so Yeah, she's a Chinese chip

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Speaker 7: maker Meta X. They sowed seven hundred percent on their

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Speaker 7: kep right up there with another Chinese chip maker, more Threads.

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Speaker 7: They had spectacular to be as well earlier this month.

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Speaker 7: Just to give you a sense of the MAINI Heather,

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Speaker 7: the retail portion of the IPO two nine hundred and

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Speaker 7: eighty six times oversubscribed, so you had investors desperate to

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Speaker 7: at the time in the US is still blocking mostly

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Speaker 7: video chips being sold into China. So music X's claim

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Speaker 7: is simple, its AI chips are comparable to in videos

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Speaker 7: and China clients.

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Speaker 10: Can get hold of them.

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Speaker 7: They've only got about one percent of Chinese AI chip

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Speaker 7: market at the moment, but the investa is clearly buying

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Speaker 7: into the growth story. Just the point that Chinese IPAs

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Speaker 7: menesting point here there is just whether the fundamentals catch

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Speaker 2: good morning. I mean that seems like an obvious problem,

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Speaker 15: Well, first of all, this morning, Heather, I really want

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Speaker 2: It's the place to pump the resources into, not the schools,

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Speaker 2: Now we've got the GDP number out later today and

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Speaker 1: International Correspondence with NS and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 1: for New Zealand Business.

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Speaker 2: And Joe McKenna, our Italy correspondents with US.

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Speaker 13: Morning, Joe, Good morning, Heather.

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Speaker 2: Right, So Maloney's piling the pressure on Russia.

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Speaker 16: by constructing two migrant centers offshore there, sending migrants there

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Speaker 16: and moving them through those migrant centers has been bogged

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Speaker 16: down in opposition from the judiciary in Italy, so it

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Speaker 16: hasn't worked very well so far. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 16: this is going to work if they try and introduce

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Speaker 16: this across Europe.

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Speaker 2: Are you getting the sense that there is a real

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Speaker 2: toughening up on attitudes towards this.

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Speaker 7: Look.

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Speaker 13: It's been happening for some time.

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Speaker 16: We're seeing that in France, the UK, Italy and other

447
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Speaker 16: European countries there's less patients to accept immigrants coming in

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Speaker 16: from North Africa, across the Mediterranean and other parts of Europe,

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Speaker 16: crossing from the East of Europe into the West of Europe.

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Speaker 16: But there's great concern about what that is costing and

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Speaker 16: and the pressure that is placing on social structures in

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Speaker 16: these countries. And now these the EU is looking at

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Speaker 16: harsher penalties for migrants who refuse to leave European territory,

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Speaker 16: So I think we're going to see a tougher line

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Speaker 16: in the future.

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Speaker 2: What would be the most cost effective wajo of dealing

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Speaker 2: with it?

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Speaker 16: Well, The Italians have adopted an interesting approach in the

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Speaker 16: sense that they have been throwing money at countries in

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Speaker 16: North Africa to try and build education, technology infrastructure. In

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Speaker 16: countries like Tunisia and Algeria and Morocco, Libya to try

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Speaker 16: and encourage countries to construct sound economies where they are

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Speaker 16: to try and deter migrants from crossing the Mediterranean. But

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Speaker 16: of course we're still seeing many, many migrants coming from

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Speaker 16: other parts of Africa moving through North Africa to get

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Speaker 16: to Europe. And we've seen a slow down, but it's

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Speaker 16: still happening.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Okay, tell me about this new metro line.

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Speaker 13: Very exciting.

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Speaker 16: For the cost of three New Zealand dollars, just the

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Speaker 16: cost of a metro ticket, you can come into these

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Speaker 16: two new metro stations that have been opened up, one

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Speaker 16: at the Coliseum. And what's been interesting, Heather, is during

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Speaker 16: the construction phase, which has taken a very long time,

476
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Speaker 16: several years, every time they started digging, they kept digging

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Speaker 16: up ancient artifacts.

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Speaker 13: So you can see these fabulous.

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Speaker 16: Discoveries on display as you go through the metro station,

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Speaker 16: so it can be there's even the remains of a

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Speaker 16: bathhouse that was inside the home of a wealthy Roman.

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Speaker 13: So it's quite an adventure just to take a metro ride.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean, talk about being spoiled, Joe, Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much, really appreciate it, mate. That's Joe mckainather Itterly, correspondent,

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Speaker 2: Hither why do these officials like Claire af Met have

486
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Speaker 2: to spend three quarters of an interview slot stating the obvious.

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Speaker 2: It's so frustrating, Penny fairpoint. Look, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk her down after she's She's

489
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Speaker 2: got up early for us and come on the show.

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Speaker 2: So I really appreciate that, and I also suspect that

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Speaker 2: it's just part of the job.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 2: So if you're gonna obviously, if you're going to be

494
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Speaker 2: a police officer, you're going to be talking tough, and

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Speaker 2: if you're going to be a children's commissioner, you probably

496
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Speaker 2: need to ramp up the kind of the woky stuff,

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Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? You want to people

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Speaker 2: a lot to cut her in there, and you want

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge people all the time, and you want to

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Speaker 2: use nice soft words. So I mean, spare some thought

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Speaker 2: for the fact that she does have to kind of

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Speaker 2: perform for the role. I would like to just state

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Speaker 2: that I am adding the children's commissioner role to the

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Speaker 2: list of things that I think the government should be cutting.

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Speaker 2: In fact, I would be saying that any of these

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Speaker 2: commissioner roles where you know they constant Climate Commissioner whatever,

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Speaker 2: all of them, they provide advice to the government in

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Speaker 2: a form bundle of papers that the government immediately takes

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Speaker 2: and throws in the bin. It's all just a performance.

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Speaker 2: If we want to get serious about saving money a

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Speaker 2: la Argentina, how about we start cutting a few of

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Speaker 2: these roles, and I think would save a fair As

513
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Speaker 2: they say, it would just be pennies. But as we say,

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Speaker 2: take care of the pennies and the pounds, take care

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Speaker 2: of them. Ten away from seven, Heather Do put.

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Speaker 1: The Ellen on the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real

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Speaker 1: estate news dogs.

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Speaker 2: There'd be Reserve Bank. Now, Reserve Bank has finally made

519
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Speaker 2: a call which I think is very very important, very nerdy,

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Speaker 2: but it's very important. This is around the capital, the

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Speaker 2: capital that the banks need to hold, because this is

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Speaker 2: the it seems to be the primary difference between what

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Speaker 2: we pay in our mortgage rates and what Australia pays

524
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Speaker 2: and its mortgage rates, is that our banks are required

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Speaker 2: by you know, everyone's favorite former Reserve Bank governor Adrian

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Speaker 2: Or to hold huge amounts capital. Now that has been reduced.

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Speaker 2: My suspicion is, and we're going to check this, but

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Speaker 2: my suspicion is it's only been reduced to a point

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Speaker 2: but not sufficient. Right, so we're still holding more than

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Speaker 2: the Australian banks are holding, which means that you and

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Speaker 2: I are still going to pay more in our mortgage

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Speaker 2: rates than the Australians will pay. But Andrew Body, who's

533
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Speaker 2: a financial markets and banking expert, will be with us

534
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Speaker 2: in about twenty minutes time and we can get the

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Speaker 2: take from him right now at a six away from.

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Speaker 1: Seven are the outs. It's the biz with business fiber,

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Speaker 1: that's your business productivity to the next level.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think we can well and truly stop saying

539
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Speaker 2: that it's not a first home buyer's market Totalities December

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Speaker 2: monthly Housing chart pack shows first home buyers have continued

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Speaker 2: to take advantage of those lower mortgage rates and property

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Speaker 2: prices that remain below the peak. So the first home

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Speaker 2: buyers maintained their record high share of the market with

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Speaker 2: twenty eight point two percent of all homes purchased in

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Speaker 2: October and November. Now, a big part of that is

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Speaker 2: because around half of all loans given to first home

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Speaker 2: buyers have been handed out with less than a twenty

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Speaker 2: percent deposit in the last three months. Property prices are

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Speaker 2: basically unchanged and the seventeen four percent below their peak.

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Speaker 2: The national average sits at eight hundred and six thousand dollars,

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Speaker 2: which has down zero point seven percent compared to last year.

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Speaker 2: Investment property owners are back in a big way too.

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Speaker 2: These are the so called mum and dad buyers who

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Speaker 2: have multiple properties or with decent mortgages attached to them.

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Speaker 2: Their share of purchase purchases is up to twenty five percent,

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Speaker 2: which is the highest share since twenty twenty one, So

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Speaker 2: plenty there to take heart from. One FIFA. Now we've

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Speaker 2: got I think we've got a call out for FIFA

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Speaker 2: for I mean, FIFA's getting called out all across the

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Speaker 2: board at the moment, but I just want to say,

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Speaker 2: don't be fooled by FIFA's latest trick where they've released

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Speaker 2: all of those cheap tickets for about sixty US dollars

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Speaker 2: to make it seem like they're good guys. When you

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Speaker 2: actually look at how many they've released it, it does

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Speaker 2: somewhat dispel that notion. So there are basically none of

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Speaker 2: these tickets they've released. It's how it works is that

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Speaker 2: every single team, like each of the two teams playing

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Speaker 2: in a particular game, gets an allocation of tickets, right,

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Speaker 2: and that allocation of tickets is eight percent to eight percent,

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Speaker 2: So it's a maximum of sixteen percent of tickets that

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Speaker 2: are allocated to the countries. It's ten percent of those

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Speaker 2: tickets that are going to be sixty US dollars each.

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Speaker 2: So what that means it's actually just one point six

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Speaker 2: percent of the available tickets to any game. Now, that

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Speaker 2: amounts to about one thousand tickets per match available and

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Speaker 2: that is nothing, right, And what that means, of course,

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Speaker 2: is split that in half, and that's what New Zealand's

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Speaker 2: to get for each one. So if you wanted to

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Speaker 2: go to the New Zealand games, there will be five

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Speaker 2: hundred tickets for each at each of those games at

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Speaker 2: the price point of sixty US dollars. So by the

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Speaker 2: time you log in and put your detail into your

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Speaker 2: email and remember what your passport it is, and then

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Speaker 2: Stanton sit there waiting for the que to let you

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Speaker 2: in and then the dynamic pricing of all of that.

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Speaker 2: By the time you get through all of that, five

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Speaker 2: hundred tickets are gone and you're paying the paying the

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Speaker 2: extraordinary amounts again. So yeah, yay for FIFA. But let's

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Speaker 2: not get too carried away with it, Heather, how many

590
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Speaker 2: people are we paying to state the obvious and hushed,

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Speaker 2: woke terms all in hindsight after a tragic episode in

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Speaker 2: our society.

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Speaker 15: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's like a comfort blanket. That's the only point of it,

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Speaker 2: Isn't it just make you feel better? I suppose. Now

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Speaker 2: we're going to deal with Sharon zol at A and

597
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Speaker 2: Z next. She's going to talk us through the GDP

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Speaker 2: number and what we're expecting today. And the interesting thing,

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Speaker 2: of course, is what's going to be the revision for

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Speaker 2: that hideous Q two number. And also Jev mcskimmings sentencing.

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Speaker 2: He's had his replacement announced. In the replacement, Mike pant

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Speaker 2: is going to be us as well. News Talk zb.

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Speaker 1: All tough on Power, sharp on insight, Heather Duper see

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Speaker 1: Allen on the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate,

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Speaker 1: doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three, News togs

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Speaker 1: there'd be right.

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Speaker 2: Good morning. So we've got the GDP number out for

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Speaker 2: Q three later later today. It's expected to show a

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Speaker 2: significant bounce back after Q two's horror number, which, by

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Speaker 2: the way, should also be revised. Sharon's honor is an

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Speaker 2: z's chief economist and with us Morning.

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Speaker 17: Sharon, good morning.

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Speaker 2: So do you have Q three at one percent growth?

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Speaker 5: We do, but we are a.

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Speaker 17: Bit nervous that some of that could turn up and revision,

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Speaker 17: So the headline number might look a bit different, but

617
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Speaker 17: the overall story should be that some of the corners

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Speaker 17: get knocked off the volatility, and likely the overall level

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Speaker 17: of GDPs will be revised up. Typically happens at this

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Speaker 17: time of the years that YE looks under the sofa

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Speaker 17: at some annual numbers that get put into it at

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Speaker 17: this time.

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Speaker 2: Here, what do you expect the revision on Q two

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Speaker 2: to be?

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Speaker 17: Oh, we don't predict revisions, but I would say that

626
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Speaker 17: of the Q three number, that's the one cent we're expecting,

627
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Speaker 17: maybe half is a noise, sort of a rebound from

628
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Speaker 17: the weaknesses you two and half is sort of cyclical

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Speaker 17: strength that we're seeing coming through. So that sort of

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Speaker 17: is just sort of some idea of the potential range

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Speaker 17: of revisions. But yeah, it's hard enough to predict the

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Speaker 17: latest number, let alone predicting well.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the moment towards twenty twenty six, it looks

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Speaker 2: like it's going to be a lot better, right, But

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Speaker 2: then you get the services number like we did this week,

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Speaker 2: and it casts a bit of doubt.

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Speaker 17: What do you think, Yeah, it's really interesting that some

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Speaker 17: of the undercoder is appointing in different directions. But I

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Speaker 17: guess that's what you're going to get at turning points,

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Speaker 17: isn't it. You know the events where one business is saying,

641
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Speaker 17: actually things are taking off and the one next of

642
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 17: them looks at them in disbelief. It is just that

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Speaker 17: kind of patchiness that you see. That said, in our

644
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Speaker 17: business survey, we have seen quite a wide range of

645
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Speaker 17: sectors saying that's not just that they're more optimistic, but

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Speaker 17: that the here and now has improved. We'll get an

647
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Speaker 17: update on that tomorrow, along with consumer confidence as well.

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Speaker 2: Now the news I see the new Reserve Bank governor

649
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Speaker 2: has made quite an effort to intervene in the markets,

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Speaker 2: the wholesale markets. Has it actually done very much?

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Speaker 15: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: We saw the new John Dolla down a bit, we

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Speaker 17: saw rates down a bit too. They're still well up

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Speaker 17: on where they were because fundamentally the market has just

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Speaker 17: reassessed the prospects of further cuts and now believes the

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Speaker 17: Reserve Bank when they say that's unlikely, and indeed the

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Speaker 17: Governor did reiterate that they think they're done cutting. Their

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Speaker 17: point was more that they're not likely to be hiking

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Speaker 17: anytime soon. Technically the market was pricing hikes from July.

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Speaker 17: That I wouldn't interpret it literally because it was more

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Speaker 17: a reflection of large flows money going through, including if

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Speaker 17: one racing to fix their mortgage, trying to race to

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Speaker 17: a small door, and just causing some liquidity there.

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Speaker 2: She seems to be quite keen on the idea of

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Speaker 2: having another OCR decision in the calendar year, and it

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Speaker 2: sounds like possibly over summer. Would you be into that?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think it makes sense in so far as

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Speaker 17: it is a very long break. She has also just

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Speaker 17: demonstrated that they can influence the market outside of that timetable.

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Speaker 17: But there is certainly it's a very useful discipline process

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Speaker 17: that they go through, so it is a bit more

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Speaker 17: whereas the speech is a bit more ad hoc, so

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Speaker 17: in that regard, Yeah, I think it would certainly bring

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Speaker 17: me John Moore into line with international norms.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff, Sharon, Thanks very much. Enjoy your day. That

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Speaker 2: Sharon's on the A and Z Chief Economist ten past

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Speaker 2: seven Heaver do for ce Allen Kevin mc skimming has

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Speaker 2: faced this punishment in court. He was sentenced to nine

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Speaker 2: months home detention. His replacement has also been announced. It's

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Speaker 2: Mike Pannett, who is now the Deputy Commissioner, who was

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Speaker 2: most notably the National Commander during the twenty nineteen christ

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Speaker 2: Church terror attack response with US Morning Mike.

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Speaker 5: Good morning Heather, Mike.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people were surprised with what we would

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Speaker 2: consider to be a fairly light sentence handed down to

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Speaker 2: mix Skimming yesterday. Will you.

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Speaker 5: That's a matter for the courts either and you know

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Speaker 5: it's very much with the courts to determine without knowing

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Speaker 5: any other detail.

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's possible that the courts and the

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Speaker 2: public have parted ways on what we consider to be

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Speaker 2: appropriate punishments.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, once again, heither it's one that probably on better

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Speaker 5: not to comment on and something for the judiciary and

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Speaker 5: the public's view.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, Mike, that you guys have got your

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Speaker 2: hands I mean, coming into the job. Do you feel

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Speaker 2: like you've got your work cut out for you? With

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Speaker 2: all of the stuff that's going on at the moment reputationally.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and looking that was part of taking the role.

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Speaker 5: I'm aware there's some big challenges ahead of us, and

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Speaker 5: you know, placing is even more complex and dynamic than

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Speaker 5: it has been in the past. I'm up for that challenge.

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Speaker 5: But you know, the commitment to work with the Commissioner

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Speaker 5: in over fifteen thousand of our staff is really important.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon is the biggest problem facing us

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Speaker 2: crime wise in the country.

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Speaker 5: I think crime wise is actually the influence of transnational

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Speaker 5: organized crime, but how it radiates outwards into organized crime

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Speaker 5: that are affecting so many different areas of the country

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Speaker 5: in often innocuous ways. But for the likes of cyber fraud,

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Speaker 5: just how it impacts it right across the country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I see that in Australia they're talking now

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Speaker 2: this isn't the wake of BONDI. They're talking now about

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Speaker 2: putting the kibosh on any kind of protests, you know,

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Speaker 2: Palestinian related protest. Would we take a similar.

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Speaker 5: Approach, Well, that's very much a matter for the government.

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Speaker 5: But New Zealander is a very open and transparent society

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Speaker 5: and I think that society. I would want to keep

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Speaker 5: those values, the ability of free speech, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's important for us as a country.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike, you look after yourself and enjoy the job.

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Speaker 2: That's my penet. Deputy Police Commissioner Heather Doers the Alan

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Speaker 2: Body and we'll talk a little bit more about jeem

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Speaker 2: Ick skimming and just attack. There is a significant update

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Speaker 2: on John Talmaheada this morning. He is no longer employed

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Speaker 2: at the Wye Perata Trust in the wake of a

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Speaker 2: report that's been released. This is in the Herald this

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Speaker 2: morning report by the Charities Regulator. The regulator, if you've

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Speaker 2: been following this, has been on the case of the

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Speaker 2: White Perata Trust for years. It turns out that they

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Speaker 2: actually nearly deregistered the trust, but the trust managed to

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Speaker 2: save itself by clearing up a payment issue. Now, the

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Speaker 2: payment issue was that the why Preaeta Trust leant about

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Speaker 2: about three hundred and eighty five thousand dollars to John

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Speaker 2: Talmaheerte for him to use on political campaigns. When the

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Speaker 2: regulator looked at the books, they said quite rightly that

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Speaker 2: money needs to be paid back. But what the trust

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Speaker 2: did was it just gave him a bonus of about

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Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty five thousand dollars. The numbers match exactly,

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Speaker 2: so instead of him paying it back, he just got

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Speaker 2: the money and a bonus that's obviously not good enough.

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Speaker 2: We can all see what happened there. So to avoid deregistration,

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Speaker 2: the trust has agreed with the regulator that what they'll

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Speaker 2: do is they'll convert the bonus into a loan on

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Speaker 2: bearing commercial terms and again demand repayment from John talmerhead

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Speaker 2: And now apparently the money has now been repaid. But

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Speaker 2: as a result of all of this, Talmaheady will no

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Speaker 2: longer be employed by the White Perata Trust. However, he

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Speaker 2: will remain employed by a cluster of other charities restructured

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Speaker 2: as the White Perata Investment Group. Fourteen past seven the High.

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Speaker 1: Casking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

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Speaker 1: Talks at B.

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Speaker 2: You'll have caught the news, of course that the road

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Speaker 2: Cone hotline is going to be killed. Brook van Walden's

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Speaker 2: the minister who's doing the killing, and she's going to

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Speaker 2: be with us after the half past news a seventeen

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Speaker 2: past seven. Now the Reserve Bank changed the rules that

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Speaker 2: should bring down mortgage lending rates. It's reduced the amount

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Speaker 2: of capital that retail banks need to hold for a

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Speaker 2: rainy day. This was originally set quite high by Adrian

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Speaker 2: or Andrew Body as a financial markets and banking expert

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Speaker 2: and with us morning Andrew Andrew, Are you there?

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Speaker 18: Yes, I'm here, brilliant, Jemmy.

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Speaker 2: I'm well. Thank you? Am I being overly optimistic expecting

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Speaker 2: a drop in mortgage lending rates.

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Speaker 18: You are here. This is the chicken dinner change. Really,

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Speaker 18: it might mean a couple of chicken dinners, but your

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Speaker 18: average mortgage borrower and maybe one for your average depositor.

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Speaker 2: Now, when we've been discussing this in the lead up

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Speaker 2: to this decision actually being taken, what we were told

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Speaker 2: by the retail banks is that in order to pay

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Speaker 2: the same as Australia, the capital requirements have to be

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Speaker 2: the same as Australia. Are we the same as Australia?

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Speaker 6: Now?

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Speaker 2: Are we still higher?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 18: We're still higher.

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Speaker 5: I mean.

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Speaker 18: The capital review was a political move by the Reserve

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Speaker 18: Bank earlier this year when they tried to distract the

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Speaker 18: Finance and Expenditure Committee at its banking inquiry. The Reserve

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Speaker 18: Bank said yesterday that it will reduce the bank cost

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Speaker 18: of funds by six spaces points and we're still a

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Speaker 18: lot more conservative than countries like Australia that we compare

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Speaker 18: ourselves with.

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Speaker 2: In your opinion, do we need to be more conservative?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 18: I think that the last twenty five years the Reserve

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Speaker 18: Bank has done a huge amount of damage to New Zealand.

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Speaker 18: The cost of capital compared to Australia has increased by

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Speaker 18: about twenty percent, and the relative cost of running our

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Speaker 18: banks here is increased by a lot more. And that's

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Speaker 18: about the Reserve Bank overreaching. They've concentrated the banking sector

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Speaker 18: and set up a fortress wall around large incumbents. The

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Speaker 18: Big four consequence is a high cost of capital that

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Speaker 18: makes New Zealand uncompetitive, leads higher inflation, lower productivity and

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Speaker 18: reduce public services.

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Speaker 2: So could we actually have afforded to match Australia? Would

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Speaker 2: that have been Okay?

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Speaker 18: Well, we've got to do We've got to match Australia

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Speaker 18: and we've got to allow competition in from Australia. The

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Speaker 18: big deal here is ready competition. The Reserve Bank is

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Speaker 18: not following its remit from the Minister of Finance and

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Speaker 18: ultimately that's a political problem. Either it needs political leadership

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Speaker 18: like we've seen in housing, education, health to get us

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Speaker 18: out of it. You know, we've got a problem here

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Speaker 18: with the banks. We've got a problem with the Reserve Bank,

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Speaker 18: and unless we deal with it, we're going to we're

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Speaker 18: not going to be able to afford the need in hospital.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh hear, yeah, Andrew, thanks very much, appreciate your

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Speaker 2: take on that. Andrew Body financial markets and banking experts.

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Speaker 2: So if Nichola is looking for around for something that

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Speaker 2: she could actually do to help out with the banking situation,

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Speaker 2: this might be one of them. And on that subject, actually,

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Speaker 2: cheeky old bank, say B and Z has just announced

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Speaker 2: it's lifting its fixed her mortgage rates the longer end,

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Speaker 2: so two year up twenty basis points, three four five

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Speaker 2: year up thirty basis points. ASB has just announced it's

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Speaker 2: doing the same thing, eighteen months up twenty basis points,

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Speaker 2: two years up twenty six basis points, three four, five

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Speaker 2: years up thirty basis points. So that's B and Z,

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Speaker 2: that's ASB and We's back and by my reckoning, and

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Speaker 2: you can tell me if I'm wrong, I think that

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Speaker 1: Heather duper Cyllen, whether you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: The ANZ rates went up last week? Right, Well, let's

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Speaker 2: try this again. Then correct me if I'm wrong. But

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Speaker 2: does that just leave Kewibank, which we're going to put

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Speaker 2: Seven twenty four. Now, if you was surprised that jevn

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Speaker 2: mcskimming got no more time than nine months home d

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Speaker 2: for looking at some pretty grim porn, you're not alone

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Speaker 2: because that seems to be the overriding reaction to what

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Speaker 2: happened yesterday. Now I'm no lawyer, but from what I understand,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't given a light sentence. He was given a

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Speaker 2: fairly normal sentence. It was a nonviolent crime, he pleaded

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Speaker 2: pretty much what you should have expected. Now, I could

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Speaker 2: But that is not what happened yesterday. But what I

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Speaker 2: to have to we at some stage grapple with what

874
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: is seriously and clearly a major and increasingly divergence, increasing

875
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: divergence between what we expect as the public and what

876
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,720
Speaker 2: the courts are handing out to punish the law breakers.

877
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: It's clear that we the public think that punishments should

878
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: be more than what the judges do. Now, of course,

879
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: this is not a new argument. I mean, you can

880
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: go back decades. You can find examples of outrage at

881
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: lenient sentences handed down by the courts, and that outrage

882
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: is part of the reason that National won the last

883
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: election because of their promises to force the judges to

884
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: stop with the wild discounting of sentences which we're driving

885
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 2: us completely nutty. But I suspect that this is only

886
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: a temporary band aid, because I can almost guarantee that

887
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: judges will find ways around those rules and finite resources

888
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: like jail space will put pressure on dropping sentences down again,

889
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: which means this is a frustration that will not go

890
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 2: away until the court judgments actually reflect what the public expect.

891
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 2: This case, I think, is a very good example of

892
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: it to most of us. There are few crimes more

893
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: egregious than the ones that GeV mcskimming was looking at,

894
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: involving very young children, and for that, being ordered to

895
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: stay at home for a few months, frankly doesn't feel

896
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: like enough punishment.

897
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Heither do for Sea Allen Heather?

898
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 2: What the MX skimming sentence does a shiner light again

899
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: on the justice system and the deplorable sentences Hither what

900
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: an absolute joke the mix skimming are geting only nine months?

901
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: That's a soft punishment. Apologies for staying anonymous, Heather, but

902
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 2: that is not enough for gevimcs skimming. Blah blah blah,

903
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: and the text go on. So if you felt like that,

904
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: you're not alone Now after Pay has put out a

905
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: list of the things that we bought this year in

906
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 2: quite significant quantities, and it's quite weird what we bought.

907
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: The ring lights appear to be the highest selling items

908
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: this year. Now if you're wondering what the hell is

909
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: a ring light? A ring light is the thing that

910
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: all the young people are buying. It's a light literally

911
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: in the shape of a ring, and they put it

912
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: behind the camera so they make This is why when

913
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: you're zooming or teaming with young people, they look amazing

914
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: and you look hideous with your camera going up looks

915
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: looking straight up your nose and all your shadows and

916
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: all that stuff. You want to get yourself a ring

917
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: like that's what they've been doing. That is one hundred

918
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: percent the most normal thing on the list. I will

919
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: run you through some of the weirdest stuff later on,

920
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: and if you do anything like me, you're going to

921
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: have to google it to know what it does, and

922
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 2: then you're just going to be like, why are you

923
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 2: spending your money on that? Anyway, Brook van Velden's with

924
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,760
Speaker 2: us next News Dogs. They've been.

925
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic. Here the Duplicy Allen on the mic,

926
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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News,

927
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: togs Head be.

928
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: Sixt sixty has got a new album out of what

929
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: I Say just a song a single, but hey, I

930
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 2: mean these guys are prolific. So Matthew Walter's lead sing

931
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: is going to be with us after eight o'clock for

932
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: a bit of a song and a chat. Right now,

933
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: it's twenty three away from a government has finally killed

934
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: its road cone hotline, which despite the name, actually wasn't

935
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Speaker 2: a hotline at all. As of September, about one hundred

936
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars had been spent on it, works

937
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: out at about one hundred and thirty six dollars per

938
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: complaint and ninety three percent of the road cones were

939
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Speaker 2: actually within the rules. Brook van Velden is the Minister

940
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Speaker 2: for Workplace Relations in Safety and with us Morning Brook.

941
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 11: Good morning, hen why'd you kill it? Well, after six

942
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 11: months we had six months of data and it was

943
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,439
Speaker 11: pretty clear what the data was coming back with, which

944
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 11: was that, you know, even though there weren't people on

945
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 11: the ground putting out excessive use of road cones, eighty

946
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 11: six percent of them were compliant with council approved temporary

947
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Speaker 11: traffic management plans, which really pointed the finger the fact

948
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Speaker 11: that the council have excessive use with their plans. So,

949
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 11: after having such consistent data month on month, we decided,

950
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Speaker 11: you know what we don't need another six months. Let's

951
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 11: save some money from here. But it also shows that

952
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 11: the work that we've got underway with NZTA having councils

953
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 11: complying with new NZTA guidance by next year is really

954
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 11: where the problem lies, that the councils signing off on

955
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 11: and having too many cones in the first place.

956
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay, you seriously telling me that you didn't realize that

957
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 2: it was the traffic management plans until you did the

958
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: tip line.

959
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 11: Well, I think there's two things here here that you know. Firstly,

960
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 11: when I did my Health and Safety Road Code Health

961
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 11: and Safety road show last year, road cones were the

962
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 11: number one issue on people's mind. Was just so much frustration,

963
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 11: and so having this tip line has allowed for people

964
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Speaker 11: to have a bit of an outlet or a voice.

965
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 11: But secondly to that, it has actually been quite useful

966
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 11: because what it has shown is that it's not you know,

967
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 11: the people on the ground wearing PPE putting out the

968
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,919
Speaker 11: cones who are just doing too much, which was one

969
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 11: potential outcome. It's actually that they were doing their job

970
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 11: very correctly the plans that the council was brook.

971
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, I know, but what I'm saying to

972
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: is you didn't need the tip line to tell you that,

973
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: because you already knew that, right, because Bush's office already

974
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: knew that. What we so, what we've got at the

975
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: moment is we've got the old traffic rules traffic management rules,

976
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: and we've got the new traffic management rules. The old

977
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: ones were the ones where there were so many road cones.

978
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: The new ones have fewer road cones. The problem seems

979
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: to be the councils aren't all switching yet to the

980
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,280
Speaker 2: new ones. Do you have any idea how many councils

981
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: are still on the old ones.

982
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 11: I'm sure I can probably get you that data. I

983
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 11: don't have that in front of me. But the hope

984
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 11: here is that they will do We know that they

985
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 11: haven't yet gone up to play with all of them.

986
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 11: But of course, you know you do want risk based

987
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 11: proportionate at traffic management. Let's not be all fixated on,

988
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 11: you know, putting out cones every two meters, bang bang bang,

989
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 11: there they go. Let's actually deal with the problem that

990
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 11: you're seeing on the ground and whether or not thees

991
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 11: are actually going to make it any more safer for

992
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 11: people working now they're just there.

993
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: What I can't quite get a grip on is how

994
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 2: much do the new rules reduce the proportion of cones

995
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: that are being laid out by.

996
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 11: Well, I'm not an expert in the specific new temporary

997
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 11: traffic management system. That is the role of n z TA,

998
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 11: but I'm sure we can come and find you that.

999
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 11: But my understanding is that for the councils that have

1000
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 11: already reduced their cone use, it has saved them millions

1001
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 11: of dollars, but we can always follow up with it.

1002
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: Are there fewer tones? Because I mean, this is the

1003
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: this is the absolute nub of the issue, isn't it, Brooke.

1004
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 2: It's that you guys had rules that made too many cones.

1005
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: Now we've got rules that lay out fewer cones, but

1006
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 2: we don't know how many fewer.

1007
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 11: Will to come out, and that will come out in

1008
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 11: the future, Like I say, the government's rules requiring or

1009
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 11: n z ta's rules requiring council to follow the new

1010
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 11: guidance doesn't come in until next year, So that information,

1011
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 11: isn't it seven? By a bit? Sorry? Twenty twenty seven?

1012
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 5: Brook?

1013
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: Have you been on the turps last night or something?

1014
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 10: I'm only teasing you.

1015
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: I know there was a very big party that was

1016
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: going on. Did you go to the Press Gallery party?

1017
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 11: I did go to the Press Gallery party, but I

1018
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 11: only was.

1019
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 2: It good from you as you should.

1020
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 11: Now.

1021
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: My problem with the Press Gallery party is it always

1022
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: turns into something like a scarfy affair. But I'm told

1023
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 2: it was a bit more classy. They were aiming for

1024
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: something a bit more classy this year. Did they manage

1025
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: to deliver?

1026
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 11: Oh? I think it was a great amount of fun.

1027
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 11: You know. I saw a whole bunch of people who

1028
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 11: were there.

1029
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,359
Speaker 2: Was there a jazz banding off?

1030
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 17: The year?

1031
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 11: There was a jazz band? Okay, so I think you know,

1032
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 11: the Press Gallery Party did a fabulous job.

1033
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: They tried a little harder. Yeah, thank you.

1034
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 11: I haven't been a long year for them, so so

1035
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 11: thank you to all the media.

1036
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 15: Yeah.

1037
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to tell you this, Brook, but you're going

1038
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: to have to work harder on the road cone thing.

1039
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced at all that this is solved. Thank

1040
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: you for your time, though, Brook van Velden, Minister for

1041
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 2: Workplace Relations and Safety. Listen, if you drive around and

1042
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: see too many road cones, it may well be because

1043
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: the new roles that require fewer road cones still require

1044
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: too many road cones, so we may be right back where.

1045
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: But who would know? Minister doesn't know. Eighteen away from

1046
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: eight Love.

1047
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: My Asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by

1048
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: the News, talks at behither.

1049
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: The government set the road cones best practice guidelines, so

1050
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: don't blame the local councils for following the rules. Nigel fairpoint. Now,

1051
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 2: if you love the Japanese, you know the Japanese love

1052
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 2: the vending machines. If you love that, I've got something

1053
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: for you shortly right now, fourteen away from eight now.

1054
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: As well as the Press Gallery party on last night,

1055
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: there was also the annual end of year parliamentary speeches yesterday.

1056
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: Here's a sample for you.

1057
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 19: On that side of the house, though, is the Labor Party.

1058
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 19: I find myself that they are a bit like a

1059
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 19: picked over box of favorites at a office Christmas tube

1060
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 19: for starters. I think all the good ones have be

1061
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 19: gone after refusing to front the COVID inquiry.

1062
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: I'd say Chris.

1063
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 19: Hipkins would be the flake. I think the rest of

1064
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 19: Labor a bit like a cheery ripe. They seem nice

1065
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 19: on the outside, but inside they're deeply, deeply read and

1066
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 19: I frankly, they're just best left where they are.

1067
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 12: Christmas times are coming, Christmas, Christmas time.

1068
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 11: You.

1069
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 9: Must speaker.

1070
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 19: Can I say thank you for your very reason and

1071
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 19: fear moderation this year, and I do promise to keep

1072
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 19: my hucker very short.

1073
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 20: Time christ Bishop realized that he forgot to check the

1074
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 20: guest bottle. Never mind, Shane Jones showed up with two

1075
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 20: hundred million of them the venues for him as they

1076
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 20: were all empty.

1077
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 12: Christmas time to come, in Christmas time, Christmas time to come.

1078
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 19: There are some labor in peace I'm particularly fond of.

1079
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 19: I would like to think of particular Willow gene Prime.

1080
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 19: I think by ignoring requests for labor to get involved

1081
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 19: in our education policy, she has I think, done more

1082
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 19: than any of her labour predecessors to advance the education

1083
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 19: about kids, and I thank you for that.

1084
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 20: As they head into the summer break, it's barbecue at

1085
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 20: Vicious Place. Christi Reluxon heard about this and said, don't worry,

1086
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 20: I'll do the supermarket shopping. Turns out you can't get

1087
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 20: much for a barbecue for sixty bucks a week, But then,

1088
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 20: saying up and down, said don't worry, I'll go and

1089
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Speaker 20: do the supermarket shopping.

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Speaker 10: I'll give my wife a break.

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Speaker 4: What's this here?

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Speaker 2: Enjoy joy hearing.

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00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 16: Back to make drehole.

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00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 12: Christmas times come, Christmas times, come, Christmas times come.

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00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gone home.

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 19: We're very sad to see duncan web go at the

1097
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 19: next election. In a recent interview, Paul Goldsmith was her

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00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 19: to remark or refer to him correctly as Roger somebody,

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00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 19: not to be confused, of course, with Labour's new tax policy,

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Speaker 19: which is Roger everybody.

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00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 20: David Seymour took along a few uneaten school lunches. Now

1102
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 20: you've got to hand it to dis how Dave he

1103
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 20: is committed to value for money for the text.

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Speaker 2: Path Christmas times.

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00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 10: It was a hard year. We've come out on top

1106
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 10: as a country.

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Speaker 2: I'm very proud to wish you all a very merry.

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Speaker 3: Christmas after a wonderful.

1109
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 10: Year of act driving the change. Thank you very much.

1110
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 10: Time to come.

1111
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 12: Christmas times come, Christmas times, come in.

1112
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: Christmas times, come in.

1113
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 10: Christmas times, come in. Christmas times come in.

1114
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 5: And you know good.

1115
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 19: Unlike Labor, we will not be working with the party Marty,

1116
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 19: but I've come up with a couple of policies that

1117
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 19: we could align with them on one including their MP's

1118
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 19: and David Seymour's attendance action plan, and two extending the

1119
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 19: social media bandage.

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Speaker 2: Takoutera Ferris, very Merry.

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Speaker 19: Christmas to our Foreign Minister Winston Peters and all our

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Speaker 19: friends in New Zealand.

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Speaker 6: Firs.

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Speaker 19: Winston, as you know, I was visiting thirty one countries

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Speaker 19: over the last year's on as sterling job representing his

1126
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 19: Zellen on the world stage. He's actually such a dedicated

1127
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 19: foreign minister that he's mastered French. And every time I

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00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 19: post something on social media, he replies, we to.

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Speaker 13: The media, get out of the way.

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00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 10: What's of space have you?

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00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 2: Christmas? I think Speech of the Day goes to the

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00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: Prime Minister, who's actually making a habit of being very

1133
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: funny in the end of the year speeches. Right, let's

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Speaker 2: see all the vending machines.

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Speaker 1: Next ten to Heather do Busy, Allen vond the my

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with a Vida Retirement Communities news togs had

1137
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Speaker 1: been but to.

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00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: Walter's of six sexty is going to be with us

1139
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 2: after eight o'clock right now, seven away from Ete and

1140
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: quite a neat idea for you to do. His first

1141
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: hot pie vending machine has launched, stocked with the famous

1142
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 2: Mucketoo pies and Craig Williams is Mrket two Pie's general

1143
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 2: manager and with us.

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Speaker 21: Morning Craig, Good morning Heather, how are you well?

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00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: Thanks mate. Now we're talking about this being the first

1146
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 2: in Rutu, is the first in the country, or we

1147
00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: already got these things out.

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00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 21: There, it's the first in the country. The pilot guys

1149
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 21: have been developing these things for a couple of years

1150
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 21: and this sort of, I guess the final version I've

1151
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 21: had out and about around some sites in Auckland as

1152
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 21: a bit of a sort of a commercial trial on

1153
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:19,680
Speaker 21: construction sites and the university campus and places like that,

1154
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 21: and yeah, with relative success. So we're excited to pick

1155
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 21: up the first one of the Bay of Plenty because that's,

1156
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 21: you know, our foundational stomping ground.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: So how does it work? Do you have to restock

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00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: the pies every day?

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00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 21: Yeah? So we're working with the road ruler in Dead guys.

1161
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 21: So the team that run the eye sights and the

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Speaker 21: tourism down there in roade A Ru and their team

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 21: are trained and ready to keep the pies stocked and

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00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 21: fresh and hot all day. So yeah, working with them

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00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 21: essentially to handle that and it's obviously the quality of the

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00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 21: delivery of the quality is ready important to us, So

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00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 21: you know, training that team and making sure that they

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Speaker 21: are ready to go and top quality has been the

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Speaker 21: key thing to the rollout.

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Speaker 2: What's the attraction? Like, why do people want to get

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00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 2: their pie out of a vending machine instead of out

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00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 2: of a dairy?

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00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 21: I think, you know, given the location with this one

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Speaker 21: as the tree Walk, for us, it was about, you know,

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00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 21: visibility of the brand. It's a bit of a novelty.

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Speaker 21: I guess you know. We have a site there that

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Speaker 21: gets about seven hundred thousand tourists through a day, a

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Speaker 21: lot of international tourists and you know, for us, we're

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Speaker 21: really proud to be carrying our brand there and something

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 21: that will capture people's attention. And a lot of those

1182
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 21: international tourists are looking for a hot pie as part

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Speaker 21: of their key we experience.

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Speaker 2: They are they coming to the country wanting a pie?

1185
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 2: Have they heard this in our cuisine?

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Speaker 4: Surprising?

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Speaker 21: It's surprising how much of it again, I think there's

1188
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 21: there's a number of things that New Zealand's well known

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Speaker 21: for around the world, and the meat pie is definitely.

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Speaker 4: One of them.

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Speaker 2: How good is that, Craig, listen, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: You look after yourself. I hope it goes well. That's

1193
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Speaker 2: Craig Williams, Michael tu Paie's general manager. I mean, you know,

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00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: if you know, if you know anything about the vending

1195
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: machines in places like Japan, they just pump out absolutely everything.

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00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 2: So if the idea catches on, you never know, might

1197
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 2: be getting a pair of socks out of it. Next minute. Right,

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00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,439
Speaker 2: here's your after paylist. So what they've done is they've

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Speaker 2: broken it down into generational categories. I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: that right up front, if you're gen X, you have

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Speaker 2: reason to be proud of yourself because it seems that

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00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: the gen xs are buying the sensible things, and gen

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: X is a people. I'm going to just take a

1204
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: rough stab at the age here, but I think it's

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00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: like over forty fourish or something like that. Anyway, loving

1206
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: the smart rings. Those are the rings they put on

1207
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: their finger and they can do all the like, you know,

1208
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 2: diagnostic things and all the stuff going on into your body. Millennials,

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00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 2: which is the category that I belong in largely have bought,

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Speaker 2: you know, like grown up things like a hammock. Nothing

1211
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: says leisure like a hammock and robot vacuums, because you know,

1212
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 2: you want to be efficient in the house. But then

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00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 2: we follow it up with buying six thousand booboos, which

1214
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: is you know, you far if you're a millennial mate,

1215
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Speaker 2: you're way too old to be playing with.

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Speaker 5: A la bubo.

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Speaker 2: But then also, and I had to google this because

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00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: this is my first introduction to this, something called a

1219
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: blind box toy, like a sonny or a Smithski's what

1220
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Speaker 2: these are? A pair smiskies are apparently tiny little figurines

1221
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 2: that glow in the dark, and they just that you

1222
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: buy them and poses that you would normally find yourself

1223
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Speaker 2: in during the course of the day, like I don't know,

1224
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: bending over to pick up the ten thousandth toy car

1225
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: that you are of the day, and then you're supposed

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: to just god on your nose, pop them in weird

1227
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: places in the house, like in your cupboard, so you

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 2: open your capital there's mismiski. Apparently millennials are spending their

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Speaker 2: money on this. Sixty seven percent of the sales of

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00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 2: these things, which you would think would be you Know

1231
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: for kids is brought by millennial women gen Z. The

1232
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 2: younger ones, kids under the age of about twenty nine

1233
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: are buying digital cameras, which the rest of us got

1234
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: over about twenty years ago. Heatless curler sets. Now I'm

1235
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: on board with that, Walking Paths, which is basically just

1236
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 2: a treadmill, but one that you can pack away easily.

1237
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 2: And Cowboy boots, because Cowboy boots are apparently back. MARCHI

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Speaker 2: Walter's with us.

1239
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 14: Next Merry Christmas Boys, credible, compelling, The Breakfast Show You

1240
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 14: Can't Bess It's Hither Duplessy Allen on the mic Hosking

1241
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 14: Breakfast with the Defender, Embraced the Impossible News Toks Dead be.

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Speaker 22: Dreams and thirteen you keep Them all right?

1243
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: Seven past eight Now it is not a key? We

1244
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: some of all without six sixty is it? The highest

1245
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: selling live band in New Zealand music history is rolling on.

1246
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: They've dropped their latest single, It's called We Made It

1247
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 2: and this comes just after their best selling performance in

1248
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: Australia at the Sydney Opera House. And they'll have the honor,

1249
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Speaker 2: of course, of being the first live act to perform

1250
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: at our new stadium in christ Church and the lead

1251
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: singer and guitarist Marchi Walters is with me right now.

1252
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 2: Hi march you, good morning. Jeez, you guys are busy.

1253
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 2: Do you ever take a break?

1254
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 10: Doesn't seem like it at the moment. Yeah, but I'm

1255
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 10: hoping for one of a.

1256
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: Christmas Yeah, yeah, yeah, you probably deserve it. How is

1257
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: the prep going, by the way, for the new festival

1258
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: that you're running, the Country Music Festival?

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01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 10: IM, it's coming along like that's I surprised, you said.

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01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 10: I was like, actually, it's on January third.

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Speaker 2: That's coming around really quick, So you're not going to

1262
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: have that longer break.

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Speaker 10: Not really, but I think, I mean, we've been doing

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01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 10: this long enough that we're kind of confident we can

1265
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 10: kind of roll in and pull anything together. But now

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01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:21,720
Speaker 10: it's just going to be a good show, I think.

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01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a one day festival, isn't it one day?

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Speaker 10: At the moment, you know, we've got plans to grow.

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01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I've spoken to you about it on it because you

1271
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 2: were you when you guys first announced it, and since then,

1272
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: of course you've had a couple of other festivals fall over,

1273
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: like Explore. Yeah, so it makes it more incredible that

1274
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: you guys are doing this.

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01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's it's definitely a tough time for

1276
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 10: the arts, music and for everyone really to be fair,

1277
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 10: But I don't know. We didn't We're never want to

1278
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 10: kind of just to take kind of rest in our laurels.

1279
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 10: It's like some of us out there are still trying

1280
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 10: to do cool stuff, so I don't mind taking the risk.

1281
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Speaker 2: Mike has Mike costing boarders tickets for the show.

1282
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 10: I don't know. But last time we spoke, you asked

1283
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 10: if I put it on just for him because he

1284
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 10: lives at Matak. I hope he comes. He doesn't have

1285
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,479
Speaker 10: to travel far and he loves country music.

1286
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 2: So if you make it loud enough and might be

1287
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: able to hear it from.

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Speaker 10: His cream Otter's name when we're on stage, Oh, I

1289
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 10: love it.

1290
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: He would love it. How do you get involved with

1291
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 2: the christ Stadium opening?

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01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 10: Well, obviously it's been on our radar for a while.

1293
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 10: We knew that that Christ It has been work on

1294
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 10: us for a long time, and when we approach with

1295
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 10: the opportunity to open it, obviously we jump jumped at it.

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01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 10: We have a cool history with christ Church. It's actually

1297
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 10: obviously we're started and needed, but christ Church is really

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01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 10: where we had our first kind of professional gig. We're

1299
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 10: kind of booked for the first time, and we continue

1300
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 10: to tour through there, all through the earthquake recovery. So look,

1301
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 10: it just kind of happened. The opportunity came up naturally,

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01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 10: and we're honored really to be able to do that.

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Speaker 10: We understand how long Christ has been waiting for us

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Speaker 10: and how much he deserve its.

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Speaker 2: So we're I mean, when it was announced, it seemed

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Speaker 2: like such an obvious choice that it would be you guys,

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Speaker 2: because you are the ones who are doing the first

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Speaker 2: of so many things at the month. Do you ever

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Speaker 2: stop and think about that?

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Speaker 10: Troy do a little more often? I mean, I think

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Speaker 10: it's a lot of a lot of us are always

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Speaker 10: looking at the horizon, you know, But I think we're better.

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Speaker 10: We're getting better at doing.

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Speaker 2: That because first to do the Eden Park, ye, first

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Speaker 2: to do the christ Church concerts, so many records, so.

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Speaker 10: Many records, Yes, I'm so and I don't need albums.

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Speaker 2: By that, I mean like you're smashing records. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: what motivates you if you've done all of these things

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Speaker 2: that you've done more than any other band in the

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Speaker 2: country's history already. What makes you keep going?

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Speaker 10: Honestly, we just want to do cool stuff. And our

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Speaker 10: goal was always just to write and perform music, and

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Speaker 10: my purpose is to sing and play guitar, and all

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Speaker 10: these things has kind of happened around us, and we've

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Speaker 10: tried to just keep it simple. And the funny how

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Speaker 10: it kind of works that way. I mean, we're aspirational dudes,

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Speaker 10: and we try and you know, it's like my dad

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Speaker 10: said to me when I had the big sit down

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Speaker 10: way back that I tried to tell them I was

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Speaker 10: going to be a musician instead of something else. He said, well,

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Speaker 10: as long as you don't, your goal isn't to play

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Speaker 10: the pub around the corner, because if that's the goal,

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01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 10: then you're only ever going to play the pub around

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Speaker 10: the corner. I was like, okay, well, so how about

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Speaker 10: a stadium?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was your goal?

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: Then?

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Speaker 2: What did you readjust to.

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01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 10: Well, look, we were and I even wanted to be

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 10: the biggest band in the world. Yeah, and the biggest

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Speaker 10: bands in the world playing stadiums and they you know,

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Speaker 10: put out big records, and that's always kind of been you.

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Speaker 10: We've tried to keep it pure and honest, but just

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01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 10: tried to, you know, do the biggest, boldest, brashest, most confident.

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Speaker 2: I was listening to shehad on the radio the other day,

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01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 2: and I was thinking about their attempt to crack into

1347
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: the US market and how it didn't work in the end,

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01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: And and then I thought about you guys, obviously, because

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01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 2: you are the next opportunity to do it. Would you

1350
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: like to do that?

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01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 10: Of course?

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01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: So how do you do it?

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01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 10: Well, that's it's kind of out of my control, to

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01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 10: be honest. If I can just write the best songs?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it as given? Because you know much that

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01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: sometimes the stuff that hits the top of the as

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: they call the head parade, always the best song.

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Speaker 10: No, And look, I guess I know now that you know,

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 10: timing is important moment, but that the right song at

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 10: the right time. Also, I can't look the right look

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01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,520
Speaker 10: because also I can't control any of that stuff. So

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Speaker 10: I'm not It's just no use kind of losing sleep.

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Speaker 10: I believe it's going to happen. I believe it's just

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01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 10: a matter of time. If it happens when I'm sixty,

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01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 10: then it still happens, you know, So that right now

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Speaker 10: I'm just trying to write mean as songs and do

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01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 10: cool stuff.

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01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, why not? Hey, were you at the Metallica concert.

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01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 10: I wasn't, but some of the boys were. And then

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01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 10: I was like, in an I think it was at

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01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 10: the airport in LA and my phone just started blowing

1372
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 10: up and someone's like, Metallic is butchering.

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01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: Your song, mate, it was so bad. Did you have

1374
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 2: a look at it?

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01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, I watched it. Oh I heard its like, oh

1376
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 10: my god, they're playing don't cute roots. This is pretty buzzy.

1377
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 10: And then listen again. I was like, oh, yeah, that's

1378
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 10: it's not great, but crazy to think.

1379
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: Because that I was because I knew that I knew

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01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 2: that you make Chris would be around somewhere because I

1381
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 2: often see him when I'm at concerts at Eden Park,

1382
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 2: and I did wonder how you guys would feel about

1383
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: one of the biggest bands in the world learning your jam.

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01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 10: Oh amazing. I couldn't, honestly couldn't believe it. And I

1385
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 10: don't know, a lot of really cool things are happening

1386
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 10: at the moment. We just finished this album and then

1387
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 10: this thing happens, and then we played the Opera House

1388
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 10: and the stadium happens It's just a really cool season

1389
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 10: in our lives at the moment and just real exciting

1390
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 10: stuff going on.

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01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 11: Now.

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01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 2: Listen, and one of your bandmates dropped out recently, Elmer,

1393
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: how's it like without him?

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01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 10: It was honestly quite tough because he was a dear

1395
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 10: friend and we started all this together. But he left amicable.

1396
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,600
Speaker 10: Was still really good friends and he was involved. He

1397
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 10: came to the Music Awards with us, and we still

1398
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 10: hang out a lot. He's a rugby coach now actually

1399
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 10: coaching the Auckland part of the Auckland NBC coaching stuff

1400
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 10: and wanting to be an all Black coach, so we're

1401
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 10: going to do everything we can to make sure he

1402
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 10: gets that job.

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01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 2: Geez, you guys really are aspiration but also very talented

1404
01:07:02,080 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: at a whole bunch of stuff. Sure has he got

1405
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 2: fomo though now they've been covered by quite often.

1406
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 10: When we're doing cool stuff or like seeing it to

1407
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 10: him that you could be doing this picking up rugby balls,

1408
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 10: and but he's but we're still really tight and but

1409
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 10: but antiquity it was. It was actually pretty tough because

1410
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 10: the family dynamic change and we we are we are

1411
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 10: very much a family, and so it took a while

1412
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 10: for us to kind of recalibrate, and now now I

1413
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 10: think we're just stronger than ever.

1414
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: So so have you replaced them with a permanent member

1415
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: or is it just.

1416
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 10: No like session musicians?

1417
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 2: Yeaeah, okay, yeah, fair enough, I can understand it. Now,

1418
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 2: tell me about the single. What's it about?

1419
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 10: Well, like, I hope people can listen to it and

1420
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 10: kind of take their own interpretation, but basically on what

1421
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 10: we're talking about before that, you know, we people often

1422
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 10: are always looking at the horizon and and don't get

1423
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 10: a chance to kind of stop and and be grateful

1424
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 10: for how far they've come. And that's really that's really

1425
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 10: the crux of the song. But you know, it could

1426
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 10: be like we made it to the end of twenty

1427
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 10: twenty five, we have a big thank God, you know

1428
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 10: made it. We made it to the weekend, you know,

1429
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 10: stuff like that. But really it's it's about it's about

1430
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 10: a bit of self love and gratitude and all that

1431
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 10: kind of stuff, which.

1432
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 2: You're getting weird about it in the in the typical

1433
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: key we way of just being so uncomfortable with your

1434
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,080
Speaker 2: own success. I can see it happening right now anyway. Yeah, no,

1435
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 2: don't be humble, you own it, you own it right.

1436
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll come back with you much

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01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: of Walters and hear the tune stand by a quarter past.

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Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 1: by News Talks. It be right.

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Speaker 2: It's eighteen past eight and we're back with much of

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Speaker 2: Walters of six sixty, who's going to play us their

1442
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: new single we made it as much you take it away.

1443
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Speaker 22: I can tell about the look in your eyes that

1444
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 22: the star's coming back again, and I can hear in

1445
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 22: the sound of your advice that you're starting to crack.

1446
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 22: And after all of the time, I'll be love so

1447
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 22: that I how to do it just riding because the

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 22: truth is, I lose it sometimes and I need to

1449
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Speaker 22: choose and the matter remind me that high She'll say,

1450
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 22: good bode to all the class in my mind.

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01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 2: Boy, I know it's.

1452
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 22: Been a bumpy road. Keep thinking that some fody go

1453
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 22: take a lotok around. It's amazing. If we made it here,

1454
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 22: then we made had no better plead rather be all

1455
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 22: of my people hear me. We never took the time

1456
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 22: to celebrate head but if we made it here, then

1457
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 22: we mean yeah.

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01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 10: Oh yeah.

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01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,800
Speaker 22: Do you remember the days we would say the weggonna

1460
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 22: ma hang it out?

1461
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 10: Well, how crazy it would it be if they could.

1462
01:10:05,320 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 22: See us now because we used to dream so damn

1463
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,560
Speaker 22: big to be in a place it looks just like this.

1464
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 22: Open your eyes or you're just snip miss everything we

1465
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 22: always wish for.

1466
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 13: I think it's time.

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01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 10: To look around.

1468
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: To real line.

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01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 22: Oh, I know it's been a bumpy keep thinking that's abody.

1470
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 10: Take a look around.

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Speaker 22: It's a meaning. If we made it here, then we

1472
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 22: may had no bed up place sold, rather be all

1473
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 22: of my people here with me. We never took the

1474
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 22: time to celebrate he had. But if we made it here,

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01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 22: then we made there. Oh yeah, take your ground, it's amazon.

1476
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 22: If we made it here, then we made Oh if

1477
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Speaker 22: you gotta drink batteries.

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01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 10: And because if we made it here, then.

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Speaker 22: We made it.

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Speaker 2: Very nice. Manch you thank you so much for that.

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Speaker 2: Good luck with everything. Thanks busy year at the end

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Speaker 2: of the year, like busy time at the end of

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Speaker 2: the year, and best of lack of that country music

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Speaker 2: festivalpreciate it. Yeah, MARCHI watters of six sixty. If we

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Speaker 2: actually I hadn't mentioned it yet, but it does bear mentioning.

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Speaker 2: today what do I think of these and are these real?

1518
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 2: I do think that these poles are real, but I

1519
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: and I do think the government should be worried about it.

1520
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's going to mean a change

1521
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 2: of government at the next election, and I don't think

1522
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: Labour should be should be getting too excited. What this

1523
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: is is a protest poll, right, So what's going on

1524
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,440
Speaker 2: at the moment are people is that people are disappointed

1525
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: in what's going on with the government and they want

1526
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 2: better from the government. So they're kind of flirting with

1527
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 2: the idea of labor. But of course to come around

1528
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 2: to the next election. No one's actually going to well

1529
01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:37,760
Speaker 2: some are, but we're not actually going to vote labor in.

1530
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: But I think we would just like to see a

1531
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 2: little bit more improvement from the coalition government. That's what's

1532
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: going on there. When Lax and seis we watch for

1533
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: the rolling thunder. Mike's coming, Yeah, that rolling thunder is.

1534
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1535
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 2: Are we still waiting, Yeah, we're waiting for the rolling

1536
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: So are we waiting.

1537
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 5: For the We honestly can have a kick our feature.

1538
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 2: We're just hasn't quite co Yeah, it's due to come, but.

1539
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 19: We've got to keep taking barnacles off this boat.

1540
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: You got the one where the car is in the

1541
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 2: ditch as well.

1542
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 8: Yes, it's a grind.

1543
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 19: As we get the car out of the ditch and

1544
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 19: turned up the right way and into first and second gear,

1545
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 19: there we go.

1546
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 2: Just make sure we got the whole lot. The bingo

1547
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: cart is full. Hey, the Susie Wilds Vanity Fair article

1548
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 2: right now. I told you about this Yesterday's called some

1549
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 2: drama with what she said. You need to look at

1550
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,479
Speaker 2: the accompanying photos. He's got photos of the whole time.

1551
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:25,600
Speaker 2: Susie and JD. Varnes and Marco Rubio and stuff. What

1552
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: is interesting is they are extreme close ups. Like extreme

1553
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: close ups, you can see every imperfection, every pore, every

1554
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,759
Speaker 2: freckle and when you look at the Caroline Leavett one,

1555
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: every single jab from the needle into her lips where

1556
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 2: she's injected in the collagen, which I'm not passing judgment on,

1557
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 2: like you do what you need to do to get

1558
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,759
Speaker 2: that Mara Lago face going, but you can see it.

1559
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: It's close up and it is breaking the internet at

1560
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: the moment. Rod Little is with us out of the

1561
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 2: UK shortly, you still zav.

1562
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 22: If you got a trade battery then as if we

1563
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 22: made it here, then we made it.

1564
01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: Asking the questions others won't Heather Duples see Allen on

1565
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 1: the Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate doing real

1566
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: estate differently. Since nineteen seventy three, news togs that'd.

1567
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: Be Bondai is still still creating a little bit of funny,

1568
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 2: funny controversy. You'll know of Laura Tingle, who's a high

1569
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: profile ABC journalist. Now she's got herself in a little

1570
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: bit of a tangle over in Australia over a bizarre

1571
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: comment that she's made. She was on the ABC's Politics

1572
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 2: Now podcast on Tuesday afternoon, and she said the actions

1573
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 2: of the two shooters have got nothing to do with religion.

1574
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: And that is, of course, as you can imagine, she's

1575
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 2: coppying a bit of flak for this, because, I mean,

1576
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: how could you say it's got nothing to do with religion?

1577
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 5: Right?

1578
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,599
Speaker 2: It looks very much like religion, doesn't it. The shooters

1579
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 2: have targeted a group of people who are religious, being

1580
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 2: Jewish people, on the day at the first day. Now

1581
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 2: they may not be practicing in the religious sense, but

1582
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 2: it's on the first day of their religious celebration, which

1583
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:11,800
Speaker 2: is Hanakah, and that the atrocity has been committed by

1584
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 2: a couple of people who've aligned themselves with I S,

1585
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 2: which literally stands for Islamic State, which again is motivated

1586
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 2: by a radical interpretation of a religion, being Islam. So

1587
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: how she can say that it's got nothing to do

1588
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 2: with religion is quite it confounds anyway, as far as

1589
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,040
Speaker 2: I can see, she hasn't yet explained her comments, and

1590
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: I do look forward to that because I'd love to

1591
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: understand where she's coming from.

1592
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 4: With us.

1593
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 2: It's twenty two away from.

1594
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: Nine International correspondence with ends in eye insurance Peace of

1595
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business Rod Little.

1596
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 2: Our UK correspondents the first morning Rod, Good morning. Now Rod,

1597
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 2: has none of the Chelsea money gone to Ukraine yet?

1598
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't seem to have done. There's two point

1599
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 4: five billion quid outstanding. The government's getting very cross about it.

1600
01:16:55,200 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: This is money which we're in Roman Ramana Brahmavich. That's

1601
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: its before he was kicked out at Chelsea as being

1602
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 4: a sort of unwanted person and the British government wanted

1603
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:15,320
Speaker 4: to go towards providing humanitarian relief in Ukraine. I don't

1604
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 4: see why I shouldn't be used to buy missiles for

1605
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 4: Ukraine because that's what they really need. But anyway, that's

1606
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 4: what the government's say. Abramovich is now holding back on

1607
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 4: that two point five billion pound payment and the government

1608
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 4: is going to take him to court by the look

1609
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 4: of things. So it's the noose is tightening. It's very

1610
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 4: interesting though you go back twenty years, twenty one, twenty

1611
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 4: two years. Maybe he was adored. Bramovich was adored in

1612
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 4: this country for having rescued a perennially also ran club

1613
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,800
Speaker 4: Chelsea who never really won the league very much. They

1614
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 4: were good in the Cup and that was about it,

1615
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 4: and elevating them towards real greatness, you know, in the

1616
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 4: Champions League, in the Premier League. But his association with

1617
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:10,519
Speaker 4: Putin has seen him kicked out and we're now trying

1618
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 4: to cast some money back from him.

1619
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough. How is it that he gets to decide, though,

1620
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 2: where the money goes? I mean that seems like a

1621
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:16,960
Speaker 2: flaw in this idea.

1622
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 4: No, I don't think it does get to decide it.

1623
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 4: I think there are various kind of nuances about this.

1624
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 4: I don't quite see why Abramovich's two point five billion

1625
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 4: shouldn't be part of the EU's assets, which it has

1626
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 4: taken through freezing the assets of Russian businessmen, and which

1627
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 4: is giving to Ukraine form weapons. So I don't quite

1628
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 4: see why they shouldn't do that. But there's clearly been

1629
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 4: some negotiating going on. Abramovich has said that he wants

1630
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 4: to see the money go towards alleviating hardship in Ukraine

1631
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 4: and Russia. Well, I don't think he's going to get

1632
01:18:58,320 --> 01:18:58,800
Speaker 4: up with that.

1633
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: No, it doesn't sound like it. It looks to me

1634
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 2: like those are hunger strikers, the Palestinian Action hunger strikers

1635
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 2: have stopped the strike, well.

1636
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,480
Speaker 4: Certainly two of them have. Five of them were apparently

1637
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 4: still doing it, but two of them were certainly given

1638
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 4: up and decided they were getting a bit peckish and

1639
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 4: had a bit to eat, which is good news for

1640
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: the government and good news for them as well. I

1641
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 4: suppose they could not have picked a worse time to

1642
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 4: go on hunger strike for their cause. These are members

1643
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 4: of Palestine Action, the very people who marched through the

1644
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 4: streets of London, sheltering globalized the Intifada, and who caused

1645
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 4: enormous mischief and damage and criminal damage a various British

1646
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 4: industrial sites which they believed were militarily linked. But there

1647
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 4: is no sympathy in this country for those people. At

1648
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 4: the roments has typified by an MP who, after hearing

1649
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 4: demands that the government should intervene in this crisis where

1650
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 4: seven people were about to die as a consequence of

1651
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 4: hunger strike, said what does he want the government to do?

1652
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 4: Buy them a pizza, which I thought was rather good.

1653
01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 4: But I'm afraid that that is round about the view

1654
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 4: of most people in the country.

1655
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 2: What's your take on the fact that the MET have

1656
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 2: now announced that they will actually be potentially arresting people

1657
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 2: who go around chant and globalize the Intovada.

1658
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it. There has been a small

1659
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 4: sea change in since Bondai and so I think there

1660
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 4: is a general acceptance by the MET, by the government

1661
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 4: that the weekly Palestinian pro Palestinian protests in London, where

1662
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 4: people were shouting things like let's kill the IDF and

1663
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 4: from the river to the sea and globalizing Tofada, should

1664
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 4: have been stamped down on a bit earlier, much as

1665
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 4: the Jewish community in this country has said that it's

1666
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 4: come relatively to that decision, given what happened at Bondai

1667
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 4: Beach over the weekend of Hannukah. So I think there

1668
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:17,880
Speaker 4: has been a change in the general mindset about Palestine action,

1669
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:21,799
Speaker 4: and I have to say the sympathy is draining away

1670
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 4: from that cause with every hour that passes.

1671
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah too right, Rod, look after yourself, thank you very much,

1672
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: and Merry Christmas to you. That's Rod Little, UK correspondent.

1673
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 11: Yeah.

1674
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 2: So the reason so it is quite an interesting change

1675
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 2: from the MET, because the MET up to now has

1676
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 2: been accused of not actually cracking down on the stuff

1677
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 2: hard enough. Over in the UK, the chanting by the

1678
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 2: Palaestine and these guys have been hassling Jews in the

1679
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: center of London as well, and the meat has sort

1680
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,240
Speaker 2: of got the law, haven't got the resources whatever making

1681
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 2: excuses for it. Now all of a sudden, bondies happened.

1682
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 2: Everybody realizes how serious this actually is. In the MET says,

1683
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: you chant that again, and we're coming after you and

1684
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 2: we're going to arrest you. This is basically what I

1685
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: was saying to you yesterday about the Greens here in

1686
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 2: New Zealand. Mark my words, they will not be saying

1687
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: this again because we have now seen that those words

1688
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 2: actually do mean something and when people are going around

1689
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,559
Speaker 2: saying it, they may well mean the actual thing to happen.

1690
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 2: So because nothing has the MET says, all the context

1691
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: has changed, Well maybe so, but nothing has actually really changed.

1692
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 2: In the UK, Jewish kids were going to school under

1693
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 2: security guard beforehand, people were getting hassled in central London.

1694
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: They did nothing. Now they're doing something. It's a good thing.

1695
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: They are doing something, though. Sixteen away from nine, The Mike.

1696
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News

1697
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: Talks at b.

1698
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Speaker 2: Morning here, Fonterra just changed the fore cast milk price.

1699
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: It's down to eight fifty to nine fifty mid point,

1700
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: down fifty cents to nine dollars. Not surprising, but still

1701
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 2: not a great Christmas present. No, it is not surprising

1702
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 2: because this has been sort of on the cards for

1703
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 2: a week that Fonterra has put out a statement just

1704
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: in the last nine minutes saying the co op has

1705
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 2: adjusted the full cast range from nine to ten dollars

1706
01:22:56,040 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 2: per kg of milk solids. It's now down to eight

1707
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 2: dollars fifty to nine dollars fifty midpoint rage nine dollars.

1708
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 2: Started the season with eight to eleven dollars per kg

1709
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,840
Speaker 2: of milk solids. It seems to be the whole milk

1710
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 2: price is the biggest corporate here. It's down twenty eight

1711
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 2: percent from its peak in May, and not at you know,

1712
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 2: asb's lowered at Fonterra sort of narrowed it about three

1713
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 2: weeks ago, so not altogether a surprise, but it will

1714
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:23,519
Speaker 2: affect the earnings coming in twelve away from nine. I'll

1715
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: tell you what's going to be quite interesting watching next

1716
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 2: year in terms of business is watching Novo, which is

1717
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 2: the company that makes Wigovi and ozembic, because I mean

1718
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 2: this is just like it's been healthy in days for them. Obviously,

1719
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 2: with everybody on the devil pen lately, they though, are

1720
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 2: losing market share quite massively and they are doing everything

1721
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 2: they can at the moment to try to claw it

1722
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 2: back because their competitor Eli Lilly is making such major

1723
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: inroads at the moment. It makes its own weight loss

1724
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 2: injection called zep bound, and its market capitalization has been

1725
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 2: climbing for the last year while Novo's has been dropping,

1726
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 2: and if you look at it on a chart, it

1727
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: is quite stark how much Novo's is coming off and

1728
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 2: how much of these guys are going up. What's going

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01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: well for these guys is that zep bound, if you

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01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 2: take that, you lose your body weight loss is twenty percent,

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01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 2: whereas we gov gets you about fourteen percent. So it's

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01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 2: considerably more so what Novo is doing. And the prediction

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01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 2: is that if it carries on like this, Lily will

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01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: control more than half of the global market for obesity

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01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: drugs compared with Novo just commanding a third I think

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01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 2: in about five years or something. So what they've done

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01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: at Novo is they've already booted out the chief executive

1738
01:24:29,400 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 2: this year. They've got two new drug launchers later this year.

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01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 2: One is being able to take goov in an oral

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: form and a pill, which they think actually will work

1741
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: quite well. The second one is that putting out a

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01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 2: much higher strength with gov injection, which should be able

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01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 2: to even outcompete Lilies at the twenty percent loss. It

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01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 2: has struck deals with Costco and Walmart that are going

1745
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 2: to sell its drugs, take it closer to the consumers.

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01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,800
Speaker 2: It's dropping its price. It's got a thing at the

1747
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: moment where if you do it for the first two

1748
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 2: months you paid, it's close to half the price, and

1749
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,680
Speaker 2: then it goes up again. It's changing its pipeline. It's

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01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 2: trying to buy some other labs to be able to

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01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 2: build up a variety of drugs. And it's also gone

1752
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 2: hard on shedding the workforce, so it's cut about a

1753
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: tenth of its workforce, which has led to like the

1754
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 2: biggest round of layoffs in Denmark I think in Denmark's history. Anyway,

1755
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: they're calling it, the economists calling it the plan to

1756
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 2: rescue Denmark's weight loss pioneer, and next year will be

1757
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: the tale as to whether it works or not. Ten

1758
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:23,679
Speaker 2: Away from nine.

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01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:28,000
Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic, asking Breakfast with Bailey's

1760
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: real estate news talks they'd behither.

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01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,439
Speaker 2: I've heard your opinion of how Nikola Willis could make

1762
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 2: savings cut, the UNI free year, free childcare, all that stuff.

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01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 2: I agree, But a lot of those carrots were put

1764
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 2: in place by Labor and ultimately would lose National the election.

1765
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: And who would we be left with? Chippy and Chloe

1766
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 2: Happy Christmas, Linda. This is it's a fair point. I mean,

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01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: this is the calculation. This is apropos our conversation with

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01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,679
Speaker 2: Nikola yesterday. This is the same calculation Nationals making, which

1769
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,680
Speaker 2: is that they don't want to cut so deeply that

1770
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 2: they lose the election. I would say to you they

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01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't lose the election because if they're still up against

1772
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:04,679
Speaker 2: Labor and the Greens and the Maori parties, I feel

1773
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:07,480
Speaker 2: like that's squandering the lead. They like, squandering the opportunity

1774
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 2: they've gone is they're still a party that doesn't know Lord. Actually,

1775
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what the Maori Party ends

1776
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: up doing. To John Timerhady, it does feel like John

1777
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 2: Tamerhead is not having the best year of his life. Hey,

1778
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: before I forget and I have been meaning to say

1779
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: this to year. Do you remember Stephen Joyce was in

1780
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: with us earlier this week, right, it was an here

1781
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, and he said energy would be one of

1782
01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: the biggest drags on the economy next year because we

1783
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 2: don't have a better year, but it's still the energy

1784
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 2: prices are going to keep it low. We have some

1785
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,680
Speaker 2: measure that's just come out in some cabinet papers of

1786
01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 2: how much of a drag it actually is. Higher prices

1787
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 2: energy and security and gas constraints have already cut our

1788
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 2: GDP by about one point two five percent, which has

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01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 2: cost US five point two billion dollars already. It's lowered

1790
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 2: real wages by one point four percent, it's cut households

1791
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 2: spending by one point sixty five percent. And if you

1792
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:58,360
Speaker 2: want to know why, it's because wholesale electricity prices have

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01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: basically more than doubled just in the late as last

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01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: eight years, and Demesta gas production is forecast to full

1795
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 2: almost fifty percent belowt projections just made three years ago. So,

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01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 2: as per usual, Stephen Joyce was banging on six away from.

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01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 1: Nine trending now with the Squarehouse, the Real House of Fragrances.

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01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,480
Speaker 2: Yep, the Oscars. Massive change for the Oscars. For decades

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01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 2: and decades, ABC, which is owned by Disney, has hosted

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01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 2: the Oscars, but the rights of the Oscars was recently

1801
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 2: for sale and there was a worry from television networks

1802
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 2: that a big tech player would come in and outfit them.

1803
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: And look, that's exactly what happened. They were right to

1804
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 2: be worried. From twenty twenty nine, YouTube has won the

1805
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 2: rights to exclusively stream the Oscars runs through until twenty

1806
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,080
Speaker 2: thirty three. No word on the price as of yet.

1807
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: So life's about to change for you. If you love

1808
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 2: the Oscars. I mean, if you love the Oscars, you've

1809
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 2: got to by asking yourself a different question, don't you

1810
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 2: What are you doing watching that nonsense? But anyway, here's

1811
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: the thing you can use. Did you know remember this?

1812
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: Remember this for winter? I'm going to remember this. Did

1813
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,599
Speaker 2: you know if you've got the flu? The best thing

1814
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 2: you can eat that would speed up your recovery is

1815
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: marmite on toast. This is not made up. It's based

1816
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: on the fact that there is a beta gluten in marmite,

1817
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: which is a type of fiber that you find in there.

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01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 2: And they did a test and they found that if

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01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,479
Speaker 2: they fed people the beta glutens, they reduced the chance

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 2: of catching a cold by sixty percent, which is significant,

1821
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: and they also got better faster. So if you're sitting

1822
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 2: there going, oh, I don't know what, I don't feel

1823
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: like eating anything, get your bread. Put it. I mean,

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01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: you know you know how to do this. Put the

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 2: butter on them, in the marmite, then shove it in

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01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: your face. Do you beat your glutens and veg you

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01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: might as well?

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01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,000
Speaker 6: Or because I can't have mammite it's gross.

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01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. You might just have to look.

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01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 2: I mean, when you congested, you probably can't tell the

1831
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: difference anyway, So just just get in there, Just do

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01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 2: a tablespoon, wash it down with some water. You'll be fine. Actually,

1833
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 2: you could wash it down with green tea, because green

1834
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 2: tea is the best thing to prevent the flu. And

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01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: this is on account of the fact I know you're like,

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01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:01,559
Speaker 2: how did I not know this before? Katakins, which are

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01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 2: a powerful antioxidant in the green tea, and they reckon

1838
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: that the caddagins basically prevent the flu virus from getting

1839
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:07,719
Speaker 2: into yoursels.

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01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:11,200
Speaker 6: But you need to drink beat glutens and your catacombs.

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01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 2: We you the wood make a mockery of this, But

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01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: if you drink four cups of green tea in the

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01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 2: winter and then you eat your barmite, you're gonna thank

1844
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 2: me later when I'm not making you do weird things

1845
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 2: like hosking, like fast yourself twenty three hours of the day. Right,

1846
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,640
Speaker 2: it's basic stuff you got in your pantry, which you

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01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 2: already eat and drink. So you're welcome for that. You're

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: welcome to Glenn when it gets you through the winter. Right,

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01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: last day of the working year for many of us tomorrow,

1850
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 2: So let's come back and do it all again. See

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01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:39,240
Speaker 2: you then

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01:29:39,600 --> 01:30:13,360
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1853
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,360
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