1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Heather due for cl so. Parliament's Big Banking inquiry kicked 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: off today. The first to face the grilling was the 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: A and Z boss Antonia Watson. Stuart Smith is a 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: National and P. He's also the chair of the Finance 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: and Expenditure Committee running this particular inquiry and is with 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: us now. He Stewart, Oh, good evening, Stuart Fair to say, 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: you guys didn't actually get anything much out of this. 8 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think we really expected to get too much. 9 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: I think was interesting what wasn't answered and some of 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: the you know, the answers that we got were essentially 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: not accepting what the Commerce Commission had found in their 12 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: market study. And it was really interesting actually when you 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 2: start looking at the numbers that they found. In fact 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: that our banks are our big banks are very profitable 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: on a world stage. 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the banks counter that by saying, actually, a 17 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: twelve percent return on investment is pretty middle of the road. 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Well, the A and D has a twelve point six 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 2: percent return on equity. I think that's quite high, and 20 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: particularly considering it's relatively low risk. I mean, our banks 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: haven't lost money in twenty nine years, so they've had 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: a pretty low risk model, and they've not invested a 23 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: lot in innovation and as the market study shows, is 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: very little in the way of competition. But that's what 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: we haven't got any conclusions yet that we're trying to 26 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: dig into all of that and get some answers. 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 1: Okay, So what did you actually get out of today? 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Was it worth making Antonia fly down? 29 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely? New Zealanders need answers. New Zealanders who are 30 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: paying their mortgages every day or every week, they need 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 2: to none. 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: But what answers did you get out of Antonia and 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: the chair that we haven't got for you in an 34 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: interview on the phone. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Well, I don't think you get the real answers unless 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: you get them in front of Select Committee. We're going 37 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 2: to get more because we've got been questions that are 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: going to them. We will find out what she got 39 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: paid last year. She didn't answer that question. 40 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: That's fair enough, though, Stuart, isn't it. I mean, if 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: you're earning two point five million plus, you've stopped counting, 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: haven't you. 43 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 2: I'd be very surprised if a bank, a senior bank 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: executive wasn't interested in to the dollar and how much 45 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: they paid. 46 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Really Okay, Stuart, thank you, I appreciate it. Well, good 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: luck with the rest of the banking inquiry. I'm looking 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: forward to the juicy stuff. That's Stuart Smith, National MP 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: and Chair of the Finance and Expenditure Committee. For more 50 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive Listen live to news Talks. 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 52 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.