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Speaker 1: New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The Mic

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Speaker 1: Hosking Breakfast with the Defender Doctor the most powerful Defender

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Speaker 1: ever made and us togs Head b Will you welcome today?

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Speaker 2: An idea of costant Richard Thomas's has been blocked by

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Speaker 2: the government. Pr and Fred's government was the one.

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Speaker 3: With the idea.

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Speaker 2: A new original deals announced, Donner's Q Town and Orplunder

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Speaker 2: Your Winners will explain more. Jason Eldean winded.

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Speaker 4: Up downing Wow.

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Speaker 2: Dad's bopping in from Nashville for a word after righte

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Speaker 2: Joona Kennis and Italy rod Littlton as the UK covered

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Speaker 2: off for this as well, paskingday morning, welcome to at

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Speaker 2: seven past six? What we need? I was thinking to

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Speaker 2: myself yesterday. What we need is, are are you sure

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Speaker 2: we know what we are doing before we rush into

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Speaker 2: this catalog or guide? So the EV story might turn

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Speaker 2: out to be one of the worlds And certainly the

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Speaker 2: transport industry's biggest headaches is company after company admit they

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Speaker 2: leapt and way too quick to electric brought into all

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Speaker 2: the government led madness on climate and invested god knows

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Speaker 2: how much to transfer to a mode of movement. The

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Speaker 2: world wasn't ready for or wanted. Evs were sold as

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Speaker 2: a well way more than they ever were, and now

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Speaker 2: even the scientists are waking up. We've got a very

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Speaker 2: good piece of reading I'd recommend to you from doctor

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Speaker 2: Carolyn Shaw, published in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health,

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Speaker 2: whereby they do what we really should have done at

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Speaker 2: the start. They look at the ev in totality. Don't

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Speaker 2: get all hyped and hooked up on emissions. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 2: emissions in an EVV petrol debate drop, but what about

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Speaker 2: the rest of it? They looked at all sorts of things.

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Speaker 2: The extra weight for example, therefore the extra wear and tear,

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Speaker 2: the weight and therefore the potential for injury if you

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Speaker 2: get hit by something way heavier. The cheapness of driving,

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Speaker 2: therefore you drive more. Therefore our fitness drops as we

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Speaker 2: drive and don't walk. Myriad of things that should have

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Speaker 2: been thought about and scoped on day one, and weigh up.

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Speaker 2: Because here's the end result when you add all that

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Speaker 2: stuff up, the good, the bad, and the ugly. Electrifying

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Speaker 2: cars would lie somewhere, she says, between harmful and neutral?

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Speaker 2: Are you serious?

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Speaker 3: Harmful?

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Speaker 2: Going electric could be harmful. Would it have not been

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Speaker 2: useful to a few of those ideas to understand right

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Speaker 2: at the start before the subsession took off, Or like

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Speaker 2: so much ideology, do the details not really matter as

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Speaker 2: long as we can leap on the old bandwagon, take

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Speaker 2: a small piece of the bigger picture of Milcote for all,

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Speaker 2: it's worth knowing that we can leave the reality and

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Speaker 2: the clean up for another day. This, by the way,

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Speaker 2: is not anti ev It's just simply the realization that,

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Speaker 2: like most things in life these days, what was the

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Speaker 2: answer was the obsession was the next new thing actually

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Speaker 2: turns out to be just another piece in a way bigger,

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Speaker 2: more complex picture than the obsessive ever care to learn about?

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Speaker 1: What news of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: Jury after yesterday, telling us they had intractable views on

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Speaker 2: both sides, settled their differences and gave us not guilty

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Speaker 2: on trafficking but guilty on the rest.

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Speaker 5: Of course, we would have liked to have seen a

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Speaker 5: conviction on the sex crimes and Rico, but we understand

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Speaker 5: that the unreasonable doubt is a high standard, and we're

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Speaker 5: just pleased that that he still faces substantial judt.

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Speaker 2: Not all the legal profession.

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Speaker 6: We're happy.

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Speaker 7: I guess the jury felt if if you consented at

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Speaker 7: the beginning, you can't revoke it. And that's an old

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Speaker 7: way of thinking. That's definitely not a way of thinking

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Speaker 7: during the Me Too movement. But we're now living in

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Speaker 7: a post Meto environment.

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Speaker 2: Here's his former publicist.

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Speaker 8: He was our Generations bonum.

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Speaker 9: He put on a show. Wherever he went, it was

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Speaker 9: a production.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the most charming people you will effa

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Speaker 3: effa meet.

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Speaker 2: That sounds a lot Richard Quist, but it isn't. As

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Speaker 2: the jail time could be interesting.

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Speaker 10: Little mister Combes was acquitted of these the charge of

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Speaker 10: rico and the charge of sex trafficking. The judge can

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Speaker 10: nonetheless consider the evidence that was presented by the prosecution

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Speaker 10: in those two instances and can use that against mister Combes.

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Speaker 2: Up north in Washington, the houses back and forthing on

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Speaker 2: the Big Beautiful Bill. A lot of attension and potential fallout.

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Speaker 2: Of course, next year when America gets to vote.

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Speaker 11: In many ways, this feels like a flashback to the

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Speaker 11: twenty eighteen campaign cycle. At that time, you know, Trump

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Speaker 11: was in his first term and facing his first midterm,

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Speaker 11: and at that time the main issues that the Democrats

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Speaker 11: looked to push in the midterms were taxes and healthcare.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Donald's Almighty loon, by the wise, had another bad quarter.

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Speaker 2: Deliveries tanked again, shears down again. Reputation the issue.

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Speaker 12: Tessa has waffled on its plans to make more affordable

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Speaker 12: vehicles over the last few years. I mean Musk preferred

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Speaker 12: going down the road of doing the cyber truck, and

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Speaker 12: especially the higher end of the cyber truck. Remember that

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Speaker 12: was supposed to cost forty thousand dollars. We haven't seen

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Speaker 12: any price close to that.

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Speaker 2: Finally, hold the salami. Researchers have a study, or well

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Speaker 2: it's a study of studies, lots of studies the relationship

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Speaker 2: between process meat, sugary drinks, and transpati acids. The conclusion

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Speaker 2: is there is no safe amount of process meat you

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Speaker 2: can eat. No safe amount, even a small amount is

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Speaker 2: linked to an increase now in developing type two diabetes,

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Speaker 2: heart disease, or choloryctal cancer. I mean, wash it down

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Speaker 2: with the cocin the donut. You may as well build

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Speaker 2: your own coffins. Afews of the World of ninety ye

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Speaker 2: three hundred and eighty four thousand deliveries. This is globally

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Speaker 2: second quarter fourteen percent decline, a second straight quarterly decline.

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Speaker 2: Shares are down twenty six percent so far this year. Trump,

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Speaker 2: by the way, has also announced a deal on Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: This is a trade deal. They've settled on twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: He's claiming the US get terror free access to Vietnam.

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Speaker 2: Vietnam pays twenty percent. If you try and shuffle something

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Speaker 2: through Vietnam from another country, Vietnam starts paying forty percent.

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Speaker 2: So it seems like a reasonable deal from the American's

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Speaker 2: point of view. Twelve past six.

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Speaker 6: ZEP very much.

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Speaker 2: Looking forward to catch up with Rod later on this morning.

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Speaker 2: Rachel reeves, if you've missed it in PMQ's was in tears.

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Speaker 2: So this is all on live television. It was a

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Speaker 2: market mover, and so the bond rate went up and

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Speaker 2: the yield went up, and they can't afford that to

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Speaker 2: happen anyway. So there's some genuine concern about what the

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Speaker 2: hell is going on. They're not calming. They say it's

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Speaker 2: a personal matter, but there's some dispute around that. But

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Speaker 2: you can't have the Minister of Finance, the Chancellor bawling

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Speaker 2: their eyes out at PMQ's and everyone pretending nothing's happening.

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Speaker 2: So more later fifteen past six, are back from Jemo

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Speaker 2: World to Andrew Keller had good morning, very good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: If Canterbury ain't firing, no one's firing. What the hell

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Speaker 2: is going on here?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 13: Hey, before we go into that, that couple of things,

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Speaker 13: remember twenty twenty two Liz Truss bond vigilantes, bond market

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Speaker 13: sold off, sunk the government and the second thing yet

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Speaker 13: gave those Tesla numbers there how many cars did by dsail.

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Speaker 2: More than Tesla is my six.

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Speaker 8: Hundred and seven thousand in the quarter.

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Speaker 6: So there you go.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, Yes, we can't have this.

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Speaker 6: We can't.

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Speaker 13: As you know, we've been spooking the Canterbury region as

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Speaker 13: a sort of shining light in New zeal necklong landscape

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Speaker 13: for months. You know, it's been christ it's been the

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Speaker 13: number one city and we've talked ad nauseum about this,

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Speaker 13: but is the shine coming off? Look, we know Christ

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Speaker 13: it's just sort of buoyed by the aggre sector. We

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Speaker 13: know places like Auckland are less directly impacted and I

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Speaker 13: was that make me think about Hamilton.

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Speaker 6: We should look into Hamilton.

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Speaker 13: Surely the tron should be getting some of that dairy

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Speaker 13: halo effect as well. Anyway, two weeks ago Canterbury swept

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Speaker 13: the table in ASB Regional Economic scorecard.

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Speaker 6: For Q one.

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Speaker 13: But Business Canterbury put out a pressure release yesterday saying

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Speaker 13: that business confidence has peaked, peaked last December. Now it's flatlining,

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Speaker 13: so the upward trajectory has not continued, So what's going on?

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Speaker 6: They don't actually give.

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Speaker 13: The actual numbers in the release, but even in Canterbury

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Speaker 13: they say that consumer confidence in demand has been slower

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Speaker 13: to rebound and anticipate it.

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Speaker 6: It is still positive.

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Speaker 13: Fifty nine percent of business that are expecting to hire

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Speaker 13: staff in the next twelve months, which is pretty good,

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Speaker 13: and sixty percent expecting them to invest in property, plant

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Speaker 13: and equipment. That lifted from the previous quarter. But come on,

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Speaker 13: we can't have Canoe Wilton, honest can we.

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Speaker 2: No next thing it will be the farmers will be

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Speaker 2: in trouble. Barfoot and Thompson, who are the biggest player

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Speaker 2: in Auckland real estate. So what we got We've got

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Speaker 2: prices up sales up Andrew is the better live? Am

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Speaker 2: I winning? Are you winning?

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Speaker 13: We've got the we've got the little wager going on it.

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Speaker 13: What I would say by is if we bet on Australian.

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Speaker 6: House prices, it will be in close.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the regional areas in Australia at five and a

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Speaker 13: half percent. Unfortunately we didn't We're looking at New Zealand.

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Speaker 13: But yeah, Barfton Thompson numbers for June.

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Speaker 8: There's a bit of a glass half full, glass half.

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Speaker 13: Empty thing going on here depending on your proclivity. Sales

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Speaker 13: numbers are down versus May, but price is a little

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Speaker 13: bit better. Now we know that Auckland area has been

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Speaker 13: a bit of an anchor at the moment in terms

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Speaker 13: of dragging.

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Speaker 6: Down national house price figures.

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Speaker 13: Barfend and Thompson, the Auckland's biggest agency's sold eight hundred

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Speaker 13: and seventy six properties in June, well down from May.

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Speaker 13: There are seasonal factors there, started winter and all of that.

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Speaker 13: What is interesting though is that's twenty nine percent higher

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Speaker 13: than June last year and prices have firmed up, so

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Speaker 13: the average price four percent higher than May.

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Speaker 6: It is quite a bit lower than last year.

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Speaker 13: Now it's not a huge sample sized composition issues there,

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Speaker 13: but interesting nonetheless, But the data that they released yesterday high.

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Speaker 13: It's the main issue in the housing market moment. That

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Speaker 13: is supply for the June month in ventry for Baft

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Speaker 13: and Thomson at the highest level for a June month

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Speaker 13: since two thousand and eight, seventeen years.

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Speaker 6: That will take a while to budge right now.

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Speaker 8: The plus side of that those that buyers have.

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Speaker 6: Options, don't they Yes, they do.

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Speaker 2: And because of July four, we're going to get these

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Speaker 2: non farm payrolls, which is critical.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, there's look, we normally get non farm payrolls. We

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Speaker 13: normally sort of missed this number because it's always released

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Speaker 13: on a Friday when we've packed up and we've left

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Speaker 13: for the working week, so we have reviewed on a Monday.

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Speaker 13: But because Friday is July the fourth big day for

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Speaker 13: our American friends, big holiday, so they're releasing non finn

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Speaker 13: players a day earlier. It's important, particularly pointed this month

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Speaker 13: because the focus on the fair Trump's insistems that power

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Speaker 13: drops rates. Laby Marker is a key part of that puzzle.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 13: Earlier this week, my job openings came out surprise to

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Speaker 13: the upside which indicates the job marker is a bit

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Speaker 13: stronger than inspected. But then last night the look the

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Speaker 13: ADP employment report, which sorts of the private sector hiring

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Speaker 2: B Actually speaking of jobs, Microsoft globally another nine thousand

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Speaker 2: It's very good news on the economy. The Interdex head

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Speaker 2: of dairy Insights, Christina Rolvarado. This time yesterday we're telling

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Speaker 2: Good Morning, Main Center is more up than down, Daneeden,

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Speaker 2: Hamilton towering and christ Church. Is this bullish for Metro

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Speaker 2: Indeed, should we be looking not taking anything away from

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Speaker 2: who are money Man. I said to calendar year seven

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Speaker 2: percent growth by the end of the year. I said

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Speaker 2: this obviously at a different time of the year. I'm dreaming,

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Speaker 2: aren't I.

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Speaker 16: Well, who knows what might happen over the next six months.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, we've only we've had less than one percent

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Speaker 16: in the first six months of the year, so would

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Speaker 16: take quite some acceleration get to that number. So I

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Speaker 16: mean we're we're probably predicting maybe two to three you know,

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Speaker 16: pre soft markets twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good on you, Kelvin, Thanks for that. It's not

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Speaker 2: your fault. Kelvin Davidson, chief property economists at Kotality. They're

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Speaker 2: nineteen minutes away from seven pass. Speaking of houses, the

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Speaker 2: surf park, we had John Coban on a couple of

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Speaker 2: months ago. The surf park north of Auckland's absolutely fantastic

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Speaker 2: idea thirteen hundred and fifty deiry Flat Highway, Silverdale, and

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Speaker 2: they got forty three hectares and they've got house extensions.

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Speaker 2: They're part of fast Trak, is the news yesterday. So

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Speaker 2: they're part of the fast Track. They're gonna put a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of houses in there, and they're gonna put

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Speaker 2: the surf park and the water is going to be

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Speaker 2: twenty degrees and they're gonna have between five hundred and

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Speaker 2: one thousand waves an hour and they're going to build

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Speaker 2: it and you will come. So that's all part of

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Speaker 2: fast Track. Speaking of fast Track, Chris Bishop, with this thing,

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Speaker 2: I read it yesterday. It reads like Luxon wrote it.

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Speaker 2: It's got that and we're gonna look and conceptualize and

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Speaker 2: we might be able to do something between this is

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Speaker 2: the central government, local government thing, the regional infrastructural turbo charge.

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Speaker 2: We'll try and crunch down and get a bit of

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Speaker 2: actual detail from Chris Bishop up to seven o'clock eighteen too.

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Speaker 2: It be paramount should be forever ashamed of themselves. They

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Speaker 2: we alluded to this yesterday, the announced overnight they've cut

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Speaker 2: a deal with Trump. This is the sixty minutes. And

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Speaker 2: to be with Kamela Harris, there was nothing wrong with it.

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Speaker 2: They didn't cut it any differently. It was proven to

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Speaker 2: be not cutting any differently. But Trump had to go

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Speaker 2: at them. And when Trump has to go at them legally,

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Speaker 2: and you happen to be a company that's got a

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Speaker 2: merger and play and you need the president to pass

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Speaker 2: that merger off, you tend to write a check. And

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Speaker 2: how BIG's the check? Sixteen million bucks includes plaintiff's fees

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Speaker 2: and costs, and will not be paid to Trump directly,

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Speaker 2: but goes to his Library's Presidential Library. The settlement does

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Speaker 2: not include a statement of apology or regret. Lord only

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Speaker 2: knows how you feel if you work for CBS six forty.

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Speaker 17: Five International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of

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Speaker 17: mind for New Zealand Business and Eily Joe.

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Speaker 2: McKenna, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 18: Good morning mate.

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 2: Ten to nine? Caught to nine?

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Speaker 8: Ah?

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Speaker 18: Yes, thanks for keeping me awake.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no worries at all. My apologies but we pay

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Speaker 2: you the big bucks, Joe. You never forget that. How

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Speaker 2: what sort of temperature you're sitting in at the moment.

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Speaker 18: Oh, it's not pleasant. It feels like thirty degrees right now.

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Speaker 18: But we've had as high as thirty seven in Rome

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Speaker 18: today in June.

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Speaker 2: I mean the thing about thirty six is not the

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Speaker 2: end of the world in Rome and southern Europe, but

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Speaker 2: I mean in June, it's unusual, isn't it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I think they're saying that the temperatures are up to

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Speaker 18: five degrees higher than usual as we've seen right across

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Speaker 18: Europe at the moment.

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Speaker 2: And is it relentless?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Day in day out?

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Speaker 18: Yeah, that's the funny thing. I think down south in

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Speaker 18: New Zealand and Australia you might get a few hot

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Speaker 18: days and then a bit of a storm and a

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Speaker 18: change of temperature. But here it just goes on and

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Speaker 18: on and on.

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Speaker 2: So you've got people in hospital yet what's happening.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, the hospitals are saying there's been a twenty percent

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Speaker 18: increase in the people showing up at emergency rooms. We've

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Speaker 18: had two tourists die on the beaches in Sardinia, probably

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Speaker 18: from a heart attack. Or overheating. So there's some real

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Speaker 18: concern about the elderly in particular across the country. Also

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Speaker 18: people working outdoors. The government is really issuing alerts saying

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Speaker 18: that people working in construction or working in the fields

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Speaker 18: in agriculture should be out of the sun between twelve

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Speaker 18: thirty and four o'clock in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. Now, what happens July nine? I'm reading over the

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Speaker 2: week in the White House said this July nine thing.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's on, maybe it's not done. How does that

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Speaker 2: how does itally dubtail into that?

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Speaker 18: Well, we know this whole argument about tariffs keeps going

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Speaker 18: around in circles. But today the head of the main

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Speaker 18: Italian business group, Manuel Orsini was very strong saying that

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Speaker 18: Italy risks losing twenty billion euros in exports and one

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Speaker 18: hundred and twenty thousand jobs next year if these ten

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Speaker 18: percent tariffs go ahead on European products. Georgia Maloney, the

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Speaker 18: Prime Minister, has tried to downplay the potential impact, but

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Speaker 18: I think there is real concern in business about what

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Speaker 18: sort of impact it's going to have, not only on

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Speaker 18: food stuffs, luxury goods, leather, pharmaceuticals and machinery as well.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is you're not going to get a deal.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Vietnam got announced about an hour or two

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Speaker 2: ago and that's twenty percent. And even the special deal

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Speaker 2: with Britain, which is I can't remember what it is

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Speaker 2: it's but they still that's good on cars, but they

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Speaker 2: don't know whether it's on steel. What makes Italy think

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Speaker 2: that they've got some you know.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think we saw that Georgia

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Speaker 18: Maloney was trying to weasele her way into favor with

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Speaker 18: Donald Trump. They do have a good relationship, but I

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Speaker 18: don't think that's going to be enough to save Italy

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Speaker 18: from any kind of exemption if it hits the rest

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Speaker 18: of europe.

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Speaker 2: An Interesting you more more legal entry work visas. What

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Speaker 2: are you looking for? Who you're looking for? Can I come?

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Speaker 2: I always want to. I'd like to be an Italian citizen.

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Speaker 18: I haven't seen too many specifics, but as we know,

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Speaker 18: the young university graduates are leaving the country. We've got

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Speaker 18: an aging population and people don't want to have babies anymore.

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Speaker 18: This is one of the lowest birth rates in the

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Speaker 18: world in Italy, so the government is taking drastic action

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Speaker 18: issuing five hundred thousand new work visas for non EU

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Speaker 18: nationals in the next three to four years. That's going

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Speaker 18: to be interesting. I'm not quite sure where they're going

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Speaker 18: to be. We're how specific and how educated you have

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Speaker 18: to be. At the same time, you know this government

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Speaker 18: wants to get rid of illegal arrivals.

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Speaker 2: Exactly weird, All right, Joe, you go well, catch up

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Speaker 2: soon as Joe McKenna, who is in Italy this morning.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it funny when you hear people from other countries

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Speaker 2: say all the young people are leaving. My nephew from

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Speaker 2: Rome a couple of years ago came here, thought we

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Speaker 2: sucked and ended up in Australia's having the time of

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Speaker 2: his life. Be that as it may. So they're leaving Australia.

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Speaker 2: Young people leaving Australia. Young people are leaving Italy. Young

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Speaker 2: people are leaving America. Young people are leaving England. Young

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Speaker 2: people are leaving New Zealand. Where all the young people go?

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Speaker 2: Where are where they go? Space? By the way, Europe

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Speaker 2: are looking increasingly. It's interesting. Yesterday this reportage was in

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Speaker 2: the Australian media. Europe is because of Trump and the

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Speaker 2: problems they've got around trade. They're looking increasingly to us

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Speaker 2: in the Asian what the Australian media called the Asian Region,

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Speaker 2: and they started referencing they want to increase ties with

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Speaker 2: the Asian Region and they're looking at the CPTPP and

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Speaker 2: the report it says as follows the CPTPP, which includes

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Speaker 2: Australia as well as Japan, South Korea and Canada. Hello,

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Speaker 2: we're on that one as well as a very Australian

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Speaker 2: to leave us out, so increasingly Europe looks cut. Now

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Speaker 2: here's the next question I ask you, And if I remember,

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Speaker 2: I'll asked Luxing about this one day, because we leaped

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Speaker 2: in on the EU deal and it's not a flash deal,

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Speaker 2: the free trade deal, it's not a flash deal. Australia

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Speaker 2: walked away suddenly. The EU rang up Australia the other

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Speaker 2: day and said, let's talk some more. Are Australia going

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Speaker 2: to get a markedly better deal with the EU than

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Speaker 2: we got and we would have been better to wait

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Speaker 2: hindsight and all that. Nine minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender octur use.

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Speaker 2: Tom sad b full update to Punakokari looking into this

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Speaker 2: business OFFUNA or at the commissioning. This is the electioneering

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Speaker 2: charge and also one in PACIFICA. They've already started to play.

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Speaker 2: Remember when Tama Potucker was on the program last week,

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Speaker 2: he goes asap. I said, when's the report coming, Tamari

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Speaker 2: gaz asap. That's not true, As it turns out, more

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Speaker 2: shortly five minutes away from seven.

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Speaker 11: B.

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Speaker 3: The ins are the outs.

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Speaker 1: It's the fizz with business fiber take your business productivity

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Speaker 1: to the next level.

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Speaker 2: So cars, Tesla had a bad day, told you about

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Speaker 2: that Stilantis, which is Ram, Dodge, Alpha Mersean, not Mercedes Maserati.

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Speaker 2: So they turnaround in America not going particularly well because

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Speaker 2: their sales are down this morning ten percent. This is

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Speaker 2: for Q two. So Tesla tanked, Stillantis down ten percent.

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Speaker 2: Ford's going well. Their sales are up fourteen percent. They

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Speaker 2: thought one point four percent. So why ask an expert

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Speaker 2: because they clearly don't know. Six hundred thousand new vehicles

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Speaker 2: and Q two led by the F series trucks because

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Speaker 2: Americans love trucks best quarterly since twenty nineteen. In fact,

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Speaker 2: as par as trucks are concerned, eighty three thousand electric vehicles.

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Speaker 2: Now that's a six point six percent increase. But you've

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Speaker 2: got to be careful about electric vehicles because of those

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Speaker 2: electric vehicles pure evs. See they call hybrid's evs and

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Speaker 2: they're not. So if furey vs are down thirty one percent,

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Speaker 2: hybrid's they were up twenty four percent. Most cars are hybrids.

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Speaker 2: They say he's got a little bit of battery or

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Speaker 2: something in there. I think they've got to separate those

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Speaker 2: out as categories, otherwise you're confusing people. First half of

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Speaker 2: the year, four sold a record amount of bvs and

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Speaker 2: hybrid's up fourteen percent. I think a bit of that's tariffs.

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Speaker 2: People freaked out about what was going to happen on

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Speaker 2: Liberation Day, so they went and bought a car. GM

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Speaker 2: sails up seven point three for the quarter, twelve percent

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Speaker 2: for the first half of the year. Once again, the

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Speaker 2: trucks and the crossovers lead the way. Keia up eight

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Speaker 2: best result ever. Shouldn't they up ten percent for the

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Speaker 2: first half. That's their best result ever. Very interesting comments

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Speaker 2: from Jim Farley, who's the chief executive Ford globally. He's

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Speaker 2: been driving a Chinese Eva is Ziomi. I keep asking

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Speaker 2: what it is, zomy Yomi whatever the hell they call themselves.

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Speaker 2: He's been driving the SU seven for six months. He

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Speaker 2: says he doesn't want to give it up, which is

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Speaker 2: a remarkable thing for somebody who leads forward to say

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Speaker 2: about a Chinese car. He says, this is a warning

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Speaker 2: to the Western world. He's right, of course, if we

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Speaker 2: lose this, we do not have a future forward. Seventy

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Speaker 2: percent of the world's evs are made in China. It

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Speaker 2: is the most humbling thing I have ever seen. Beyond

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Speaker 2: the tech. He loves the tech inside anyway, Beyond that,

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Speaker 2: their cost, the quality of their vehicles is far superior

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Speaker 2: to what I see in the Red West. And this

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Speaker 2: guy runs a company in the West, sitting there in

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Speaker 2: his Chinese EV in charge of a company in the West,

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Speaker 2: telling all the people who worked for him that the

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Speaker 2: Chinese had got it covered. That's where you get to Mercedes.

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Speaker 2: Have I come back to that. They've backtracked on their

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Speaker 2: V eight. You know, their boom broom V eight AMGV eight.

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Speaker 2: They took that out of their AMG cars and they

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Speaker 2: whacked in a poor cylinder two liter And they thought

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Speaker 2: that people who want to buy broombroom cars would think

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Speaker 2: that was a good idea. Guess what they didn't, so

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Speaker 2: they backed down on the V eight. But I'll come

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Speaker 2: back to that later on the program. Nicola Willis had

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Speaker 2: an idea and she stole it from Labor to cost

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Speaker 2: out election policies. She took that to cabinet Winston and

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Speaker 2: Dave went not happening. Steven Joyce on this next.

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Speaker 1: The Breakfast Show KIWI Trust to Stay in the Know

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Speaker 1: the mic hosting Breakfast with A Veda, Retirement Communities, Life

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Speaker 1: Your Way News tog SAD been.

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Speaker 2: On seven past seven. So interesting development within the coalition.

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Speaker 2: New Zealand First and Act have rejected a cabinet proposal

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Speaker 2: for an independent costing agency. The idea was you wrap

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Speaker 2: numbers around your promises in an election. That's increased transparency

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Speaker 2: and therefore the fiscal whole drama of the past year

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Speaker 2: or so doesn't happen. Stephen Joyce has been there, done

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Speaker 2: that form of Finance Minister is with this morning to

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Speaker 2: you Monnie, Mike, tell you very well. In so back

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Speaker 2: to twenty sixteen, this was a Labour Green's idea that

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Speaker 2: Simon Bridges rejected. So you know of it, would you

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Speaker 2: have backed it? Is it a good idea?

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Speaker 3: Or not.

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Speaker 19: It could be helpful in someway. It's important to note

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Speaker 19: I think this idea is a bit different to that.

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Speaker 19: I mean, it's the same bucket. But what the Finance

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Speaker 19: Minister's proposing is to cost individual policies at the request

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Speaker 19: of the parties involved, which I think does deal with

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Speaker 19: a problem that happens when you're in opposition is that

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Speaker 19: you don't have access to the information. So you have

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Speaker 19: to go chasing around oias and parliamentary questions to try

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Speaker 19: and get enough information to build a policy which stands

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Speaker 19: scrutiny when it gets out in the public. And it's

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Speaker 19: a lot of fun for the government of the day

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Speaker 19: to try and withhold all that information and then go ah,

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Speaker 19: but to ridiculously costed policy. And so that would help

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Speaker 19: with that. But it's a bit different to what was

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Speaker 19: being proposed by Laboring the Greens back then, because they

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Speaker 19: wanted to cost the party's fiscal policies. Of course, we

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Speaker 19: had an experience about that in twenty seventeen which I

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Speaker 19: was involved in, was that Fiscal Whole and Labor came

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Speaker 19: out with some numbers and I bagged them for being

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Speaker 19: about twelve billion short. I got bagged in turn. But

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Speaker 19: that's politics. I think I.

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Speaker 2: Think it turned out to be right though, didn't you, Stephen?

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Speaker 19: I turned out to be too conservative, Mike. It was like,

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Speaker 19: in hindsight, it was about twenty billion months that actually

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Speaker 19: spent all the money. The difficulty with the thing that

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Speaker 19: was proposed back then is it just brings whatever it is,

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Speaker 19: a Parliamentary Budget Office or whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 19: into the debate and nobody internationally when it happens, nobody

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Speaker 19: still accept it. It's just a different stage of the argument,

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Speaker 19: and ultimately the public just has to form a view

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Speaker 19: whether they trust individuals to spend more or less. But

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Speaker 19: this particular proposal, as I'll say, it was a lot smaller,

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Speaker 19: about a million dollars. The Public Service Commission was going

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Speaker 19: to supervise it. It was literally at the party's request for

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Speaker 19: them to be able to get some information. But yeah,

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Speaker 19: obviously coalition politics the other two didn't want.

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Speaker 11: To do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they don't. And do they look dodgy and not

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Speaker 2: wanting to do it or are their arguments around You

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Speaker 2: can get the numbers anyway, We've had alternative budgets and

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Speaker 2: we don't have the money to spend on this sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Plus, we don't trust public service all the time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the they stack.

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Speaker 19: Up well, I think they're they're entitled to those sort

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Speaker 19: of party positions, and you know they're just positioning with it.

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Speaker 19: ACT says, oh, you know, we know about to do

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Speaker 19: numbers anyway, so we don't need that. And I think

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Speaker 19: news on first just take a traditional approach to it,

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Speaker 19: and they just say, oh, we didn't have it for

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Speaker 19: the last forty years, why do we need it now?

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Speaker 19: So all that sort of stuff. I think, yeah, there

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Speaker 19: is some truth to that, is that is it ultimately

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Speaker 19: public sevens don't get it right all the time, but

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Speaker 19: I tend to get it a little bit more right

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Speaker 19: than a lot of political parties. I mean, you just

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Speaker 19: sort of green stuff recently, and that's pretty high in

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Speaker 19: the sky. And so it would be a contribution to

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Speaker 19: the baby. But don't forget the party that we've got

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Speaker 19: the costing would control whether it was released, so they'd

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Speaker 19: probably only release it if they actually liked it. Otherwise

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Speaker 19: they'd probably just come up with their own numbers.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff. Always pleasure to have you on the program.

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Speaker 2: Stephen Joyce, former Finance Minister, And I don't say that

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Speaker 2: because he's the chaman of the board. I say it

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Speaker 2: because he's a nice guy. Anyway, eleven minutes past seven,

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Speaker 2: we have more money for a run. Speaking of which,

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Speaker 2: more money for I rung A Toma Riki and the

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Speaker 2: development of professionalism of STF forty one million dollars going

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Speaker 2: for what they call long standing gaps, which are training

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Speaker 2: and qualifications. Doctor clear upmode as the Chief Children's Commissioner,

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Speaker 2: of course, and is what is clear good morning to you?

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Speaker 20: Good morning?

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Speaker 2: Do we run the risk of running into the money trap,

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Speaker 2: which is just make an announcement. There's a number, everyone thinks,

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Speaker 2: oh phuil and we never sort of follow it up.

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Speaker 2: Is the money needed? Will it be well spent? Will

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Speaker 2: things materially improve? Do you think?

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Speaker 9: Well?

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Speaker 20: I welcome this investment because it is about the safety

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Speaker 20: and care of children and young people in our Auto

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Speaker 20: Accomodo Key residences. I've consistently been calling for this since

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Speaker 20: I came into my role as Chief Children's Commissioner, so

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Speaker 20: I am pleased that the government has listened and take

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Speaker 20: connection in this way. You are absolutely right, though I

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Speaker 20: will be continuing to watch very closely to make sure

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Speaker 20: that this actually translates into good outcomes for children and

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Speaker 20: young people in these residences?

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Speaker 2: Could most people see the gaps if they were looking

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Speaker 2: in as that part of the ongoing problem. In other words,

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Speaker 2: there's a lack of professionalism. There have plenty of good meaning,

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Speaker 2: but lack of professionalism hence the lack of traction.

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Speaker 20: Well, my team they go into these places regularly to

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Speaker 20: monitor them under the optional protocol to a gave mention

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Speaker 20: against torture, and our focus there is looking at what

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Speaker 20: is the treatment and conditions of these children and young

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Speaker 20: people in these places where they are deprived of their liberty,

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Speaker 20: and we do that to prevent harm from happening. And unfortunately,

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Speaker 20: in many instances we have found that the care and

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Speaker 20: treatment of these children and young people it hasn't been

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Speaker 20: to the standard that we want to see. There has

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Speaker 20: been safety and harm issues. And so building this workforce

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Speaker 20: and actually making sure they're equipped with the professional skills

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Speaker 20: that they need to do this really important work but

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Speaker 20: which is often complex, is really really important.

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Speaker 2: Goodnie Claire, and as to talk to you again doctor

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Speaker 2: Claire Agmot, who's the Cheap Children's Commissioner. Wellcome back to

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Speaker 2: that Punacocara thing and the fun at Aura in a

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Speaker 2: moment thirteen minutes past seven past. Its slightly more important

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Speaker 2: at the moment, though, I'm very excited to be able

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Speaker 2: to read that ACC have agreed, and I've been on

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Speaker 2: to ACC in the last couple of weeks. Have you

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Speaker 2: listened to the program regularly. The amount of money they're spending,

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Speaker 2: the number of people who are receiving money, and the

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Speaker 2: shortfall is alarming. So much so, and I reiterate this,

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Speaker 2: Nikola Willis no longer adds their month near numbers in

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Speaker 2: to the government's projected surplus return or return to surplus,

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Speaker 2: if and when that ever happens, because the numbers are

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Speaker 2: so large. If she put those numbers in, we'd never

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Speaker 2: returned to surplus. So they've agreed to slash the growth

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Speaker 2: and claimants receiving conversation for more than a year, cut

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Speaker 2: the money they spend on social rehabilitation. The accumulated deficit

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Speaker 2: in ACC's reserves expected to increase from twelve point four

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Speaker 2: billion last year alone it was seven point two billion,

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Speaker 2: to reach seventeen billion by June of next year. Scott Simpson,

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Speaker 2: who's the minister, he's working on a turnaround plan. Good

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Speaker 2: luck with that, assuming it involves a wand and a

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Speaker 2: lot of magic. There are twenty four thousand people in

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Speaker 2: this country who have been on benefits acc for more

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Speaker 2: than a year. Twenty four thousand people, and you wonder

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Speaker 2: why they got no money. Fourteen past seven.

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Speaker 1: The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Well Dean one of the biggest names and not the

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Speaker 2: biggest name in country music, been around for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: He's heading here announced the twur of this week, so

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Speaker 2: we thought we'd call them up in Nashville have a word.

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Speaker 2: So he's with us after eight seventeen past seven. Now

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Speaker 2: we alluded to it Monday with the Prime Minister. But

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Speaker 2: your regional deal winners are Auckland to Targa and the

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Speaker 2: Western by plenty of partnerships. This is between central and

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Speaker 2: local government to turbo charge of the economy. So how

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Speaker 2: does it work? Chris Bishop, Infrastructure, Minister of Courses, back

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Speaker 2: with us on the program Morning, Good Morning. How many

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Speaker 2: applications did you get?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen?

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Speaker 21: We received eighteen light touch proposals though were sort of

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Speaker 21: indicative proposals from around the country. Not everyone wanted to participate,

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Speaker 21: so Wellington, for example, as was reported, didn't submit one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So are these standouts or were they all good

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Speaker 2: and you could have done business with all of them potentially?

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Speaker 3: I mean, ultimately they're all They're all good in their

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Speaker 3: own ways.

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Speaker 21: These were the three that best met the alignment with

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Speaker 21: the government around our kind of sheered vision for closing

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Speaker 21: that infrastructure gap and you know, delivering productivity, enhancing infrastructure

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Speaker 21: for the future, around spatial planning and things like that.

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Speaker 3: So these are the kind of the ones that stood out.

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Speaker 21: And look, you know, frankly, from a realistic point of view,

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Speaker 21: we need Auckland to succeed right for the country, you know,

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Speaker 21: and appreciate the people out there listening and not from Auckland.

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Speaker 21: We'll say, well, yeah, yeah, Auckland or Auckland. But Auckland's

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Speaker 21: our biggest city, it's our big international city. It's a

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Speaker 21: major driver of growth and productivity in the country. And

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Speaker 21: so aligning central government direction with Auckland, with with May

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Speaker 21: Wayne Brown and the council around housing around you know,

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Speaker 21: when I've been on the show talking about rapid transit

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Speaker 21: and the city railroak and you know, up zoning land

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Speaker 21: or for housing. He's very keen on innovation precincts being

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Speaker 21: based there, there's.

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Speaker 3: A lot we can do there in Auckland. So I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty excited.

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Speaker 2: But how does it dubtor? Is this a power grab

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Speaker 2: by you guys? Because I look back to the christ

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Speaker 2: you scrap your head and they pleaded with you for

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Speaker 2: years and spent millions and wasted their time and you

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Speaker 2: said no, thank you. How much of this is about

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Speaker 2: you doing what you want versus them doing what they want?

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Speaker 21: I think it's the better way to put it. I

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Speaker 21: reckon is about alignment. So we've set some coves for us,

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Speaker 21: or we've set some clear objectives for us, right, which

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Speaker 21: is that we've got a clear agenda around resource management reform,

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Speaker 21: actually quite supported by local councils to be honest, because

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Speaker 21: everyone knows the status quoe is unsustainable. So resource management reform,

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Speaker 21: we've got the three waters changes we're making around local

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Speaker 21: water done well.

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Speaker 3: We want councils to use new tools for.

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Speaker 21: Funding and financing, so things like infrastructure funding and financing

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Speaker 21: levies off balance sheet borrowing. We're also quite keen that

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Speaker 21: they engage some asset recycling from their own assets. Often

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Speaker 21: local councils have assets on their balance sheet that frankly.

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Speaker 3: Our viewers could be redeployed to better uses.

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Speaker 21: So part of the regional deal framework will be discussions

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Speaker 21: around that. And you've seen Wayne brownder that in Auckland

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Speaker 21: for example, selling down the you know, the state in Auckland,

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Speaker 21: the airport and a bit controversial for a while, but

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Speaker 21: actually it's been very verious.

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Speaker 2: Will there be crunchy a stuff because I'm reading yesterday

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Speaker 2: it sounds like lux and wrote the thing it's all

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Speaker 2: it's all. I mean, it's all fields and touchies and

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Speaker 2: we want a bit of this and a bit of

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Speaker 2: that and has been and it's going to be fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Is there something crunchy coming that we can get our

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Speaker 2: heads around numbers, data time frames, KPI.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, that's all to come.

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Speaker 21: So I think it will get crunchy once we work,

885
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Speaker 21: you know with the rubber hits the road on what

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Speaker 21: councils are up for doing. And as I say, we're

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Speaker 21: keen on some masset recycling on improving their you know,

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Speaker 21: their investment in local infrastructure that supports growth, because that's

889
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Speaker 21: ultimately what this is all about. So we're coming at

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Speaker 21: it from central government around growth and that's this government's

891
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Speaker 21: driving ambition, as you know, is how do we improve

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Speaker 21: productivity and get growth going. So there is some of

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Speaker 21: the proposals that that came in and they are all

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Speaker 21: pretty good up their own way. But some of them

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Speaker 21: came in and they were they were, to use your language,

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Speaker 21: but touchy feely sort of like, oh, let's all sit

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Speaker 21: down and comboy are and have a you know, have

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Speaker 21: a have a huey and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 2: We don't want.

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Speaker 21: Well, well, we're up for meetings. We're up for meetings

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Speaker 21: as long as they lead to productive outcomes. And I'm

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Speaker 21: not a guy who sits around and you know, I

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Speaker 21: don't go into meetings the shack spiders.

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Speaker 3: We're there to actually get stuff done for the country, right,

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Speaker 3: good stuff.

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Speaker 2: And you don't want to be in a meeting shagging spiders.

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Speaker 2: seven twenty four. I reckon there should be a rule

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Speaker 2: and the rules around balance. Part of the media's demise is.

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Speaker 2: It's on fairness and coverage, the latest example of which

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Speaker 2: is the school lunch program. Right, we've got a smattering

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Speaker 2: of coverage. When I say smattering, I found two things

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Speaker 2: yesterday too, one by Radio and New Zealand, who have

938
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Speaker 2: the same stats as story number two, which is by

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Speaker 2: the Herald Radio New Zealand. Once they produced the stats

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Speaker 2: in their story, clearly couldn't help themselves given it was

941
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Speaker 2: a good news story, so they went and found a

942
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Speaker 2: miserable principle to moan some more about the lunch program.

943
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Speaker 2: Their moan was given the previous moaning didn't work and

944
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Speaker 2: things weren't going back to the way they were. They

945
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Speaker 2: must have given up. The numbers, by the way, for

946
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Speaker 2: the school lunch program ninety nine percent plus delivery each day,

947
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Speaker 2: Complaints are down by ninety two percent, students positive feedback

948
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Speaker 2: through the roof.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The Herald story contained term three testing news new meals

951
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Speaker 2: with students in the trial, posting a seventy three percent

952
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Speaker 2: positive feedback. Now, by any standards, these numbers are a

953
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Speaker 2: success story. Where there was trouble at the start, the

954
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Speaker 2: trouble was fixed, so fairness very little the government did

955
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Speaker 2: this year got more media attention than school lunches. TV

956
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Speaker 2: in particular went to town on it, night after night

957
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Speaker 2: after night, melting plastic, burnt kids, shots of mush, finger pointing,

958
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Speaker 2: union reps, delivery delays. It was a feeding frenty and

959
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Speaker 2: the media were in boots and all. So where are

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Speaker 2: they now? Ah, Apart from two stories, where are they now?

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Speaker 2: We've got stats and detail, We have a fix. We

962
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Speaker 2: have happy kids and do remember are the reason for

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Speaker 2: it all? In the first places, we have money saved

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Speaker 2: and a lot of it. Not just money saved, but

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Speaker 2: more kids actually getting fed. So as an ex exercise,

966
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Speaker 2: we are doing more with less and the recipients are happy.

967
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Speaker 2: So where are the stories? Where's the balance? Where's the fairness?

968
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Speaker 2: So my rule should be minute for minute, colomage for colomage.

969
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Speaker 2: If you love the pylon, you've got to be back

970
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Speaker 2: to present the end result. You have to do the

971
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Speaker 2: right thing. You have to provide the other side, the balance,

972
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Speaker 2: the outcome. If you don't, then the charge of buyers

973
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Speaker 2: sticks it. You look like an attention seeking clickbait warrior

974
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Speaker 2: and you'll please for value of journalism fall flat asking,

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Speaker 2: So sad Mike to read of des Gorman's passing the

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Speaker 2: only trustworthy voice during the COVID cluster. I don't think

977
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Speaker 2: it was the only trustworthy voice, but I got written

978
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Speaker 2: to this morning by his family Sarah, Christine, Anna and

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Speaker 2: Emily to tell me that Desert passed away in the

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Speaker 2: early hours of this morning, surrounded by his family, which

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Speaker 2: is nicely for seventy one, which is far too young.

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Speaker 2: I want to thank you for the insightful, engaging interviews

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Speaker 2: you shared with Dad over the past five years. Lovely

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Speaker 2: guydeas Gorman last saw him in a car yard. I mean,

985
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Speaker 2: not only a nice guy, but you like car us

986
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Speaker 2: So we had a good chat and he hadn't been

987
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Speaker 2: well for a while, but he was certainly a voice

988
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Speaker 2: that was relied upon and trusted during the COVID period.

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Speaker 2: And so our thoughts obviously are with family and friends

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Speaker 2: of DearS Gorman this morning. So some changes coming proceeds

991
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Speaker 2: of crime Fund that you'll need to know about, and

992
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Speaker 2: the person in charge of that is a miss Nicole McKee,

993
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Speaker 2: and she'll be with us directly after the news, which

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Speaker 2: is next. Your news talk said bet.

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Speaker 1: Your source of breaking news, challenging a villion and honors

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Speaker 1: backs the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender doctor the

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Speaker 1: most powerful defender ever made and news headb.

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Speaker 2: Justin And I'm assuming this is pre Scotus the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 2: Therefore this is still in play. So this is Trump.

1000
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Speaker 2: The US federal judge has blocked the asylum band at

1001
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Speaker 2: the US Mexico border. The judge argues judge called Randolph Moss.

1002
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Speaker 2: He argues Trump exceeded his authority a proclamation declaring illegal

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Speaker 2: immigration and emergence and setting aside existing legal process as

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Speaker 2: he says, it's not an emergency of one hundred and

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Speaker 2: twenty eight page opinion. American Civil Liberties Union brought the

1006
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Speaker 2: challenge back in February, and I think that's the key.

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00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 2: They're arguing they violated or Trump violated US law and

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Speaker 2: international treaties. So the judges agreed. But the judges also

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Speaker 2: said he had set the effective data side for fourteen

1010
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Speaker 2: days to allow the Trump administration to appeal, which they will. Obviously,

1011
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Speaker 2: the importance of Scotus is that just the other day

1012
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Speaker 2: they laid down it was over the weekend our time,

1013
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Speaker 2: a very significant ruling that basically says lower courts, which

1014
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Speaker 2: is what this is, can't go round doing nationwide things

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Speaker 2: and blocking. So because this got filed in February, I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming that still counts anything posts the Supreme Court decision

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Speaker 2: the other day doesn't. Twenty one away, rull in the

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Speaker 2: town staff off the budge. Joseph Elban is going to

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Speaker 2: be here in the early part of next year, the

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Speaker 2: two of the full throttle tour of which he is

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Speaker 2: on globally at the moment he joined U from na

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Speaker 2: clock meantime back year, the government are adjusting the proceeds

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Speaker 2: of fund goal is reducing violent crime by twenty thousand

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Speaker 2: by the end of twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 3: That's victims.

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Speaker 2: Of course, part of the change comes out of the

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Speaker 2: Harry tam two point seventy five million debicle that the

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Speaker 2: Labor government oversaw. Nicole McKee, who is the Associate Minister

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Speaker 2: of Justice and is with us on all of this.

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Speaker 2: Very good morning to you.

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Speaker 22: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 2: The final report from Harry has never been seen, has it.

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Speaker 22: It's right. I think it's about twelve months over due

1034
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:29,439
Speaker 22: now and actually shows why we need to make sure

1035
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Speaker 22: that we make better decisions when we want to support

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Speaker 22: our communities, because our communities are the ones that need

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Speaker 22: to have good outcomes. So I've changed the fund so

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Speaker 22: that we don't do things like just throw money at

1039
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Speaker 22: people who shouldn't have it and don't deliver outcomes.

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Speaker 2: What is there anything in there?

1041
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: Though?

1042
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: If you give me some money and I say I'll

1043
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Speaker 2: go do something, whether I do it or not, and

1044
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Speaker 2: I don't file a report to tell you anything, is

1045
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: there anything actually you can do about it? What are

1046
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Speaker 2: you going to do arrest me?

1047
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Speaker 22: I think it will actually speak further what other programs

1048
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Speaker 22: would get supported in the future if they don't. I

1049
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Speaker 22: mean when they sign up. Now, what they have to

1050
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 22: sign up to is a whole new regime. So first

1051
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Speaker 22: of all, before we even consider them, they have to

1052
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Speaker 22: meet certain criteria on a matrix of scoring as to

1053
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Speaker 22: whether I will even look at their proposal. They have

1054
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Speaker 22: to come through government agencies. They can't just come straight

1055
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 22: from the community anymore. So we will always have that

1056
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Speaker 22: extra oversight to ensure in the first place that these

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Speaker 22: projects are workable, as opposed to throwing taxpayer money because

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Speaker 22: that's what it is at the sky and hoping for results.

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Speaker 2: So do reassure me. I'll give you a couple of

1060
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Speaker 2: examples in a moment. But there are people out there

1061
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Speaker 2: that you give money to that do make and you

1062
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Speaker 2: can prove it a material difference to people's lives, because

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Speaker 2: I just worry that you're o rung and Tamaiki's all

1064
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 2: of that. There's so much money and so many reports

1065
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Speaker 2: and nobody seems to make any progress on anything.

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Speaker 22: Well, if I speak to one of the projects that

1067
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Speaker 22: we funding, and that's the Co Hunger Billy Graham Youth

1068
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Speaker 22: Foundation program, they are already successful in the areas that

1069
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Speaker 22: they have been operated and in fact managed to get

1070
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Speaker 22: community funding to keep them operated operating. I'm now giving

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Speaker 22: them one point nine million so that they can expand

1072
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Speaker 22: into eight other areas and the expectation is that they'll

1073
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Speaker 22: get community funding to keep those areas going as well,

1074
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Speaker 22: so they'll have three years to be able to do this.

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Speaker 22: So we've taken a successful program and looking to expand

1076
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Speaker 22: it because it is making a really big difference for

1077
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Speaker 22: our serious youth offenders.

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Speaker 2: Good is the proceeds of crime fund being tapped as

1079
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Speaker 2: much as it possibly can be. In other words, are

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Speaker 2: you're getting as much money in as you can do

1081
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Speaker 2: you think.

1082
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Speaker 22: Well, that's always a movable feast because the money basically

1083
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Speaker 22: can sometimes sit there for years or months depending on

1084
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Speaker 22: court processes. So how much money comes in at any

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00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 22: one time is we can't determine. We don't know, We

1086
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 22: have no idea when it's going to come in all

1087
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 22: what the costs are for being able to process all

1088
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 22: of these events and court actions as well. So for example,

1089
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 22: six million dollars had to be paid two police to

1090
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 22: help them with storage of some of the stuff that

1091
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 22: they've seized and their prosecutions, and MB as well also

1092
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 22: got paid three million dollars, So that comes out of

1093
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 22: the fund. But if you look at the flows, we

1094
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 22: have four income flows every year and the last one

1095
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 22: was three point four million and the one before that

1096
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 22: was one point six million. So there's some healthy amounts

1097
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 22: coming in that will support our communities and make life

1098
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 22: better for Keywason And good.

1099
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Speaker 2: To hear Nicole. Nice to talk to you, Nicole McKee,

1100
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Speaker 2: who's the Associate Minister of Justice. Of course, eighteen minutes

1101
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: away from eight tasking right, So Tama Potucker when he

1102
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 2: was on the program, there's something to see here. I'm

1103
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: absolutely convinced of it. Farner Or get some money and

1104
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: they won hired Tama easy to sit there for half

1105
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: an hour trying to convince you to get onto the

1106
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: Maori role, and they claim farner or a metapica Roko

1107
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: Tate tells us that's not electioneering. I don't believe it

1108
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: for a moment. Then there's money funneled to the Pacific

1109
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: people who then go and sponsor Mowana Pacific. And the

1110
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,439
Speaker 2: slightly different part of that is they claim that it's

1111
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: private money, not public money. And you can probably start

1112
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: dancing on the head of a pin because if you

1113
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: get the public money and you say invest it for

1114
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 2: argument's sake, and you then start getting a return on

1115
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: that investment, they would claim that return on investment is

1116
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: then private money. Therefore putting into Moana Pacific is legit.

1117
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 2: I don't know that. I'm convinced that that argument. Anyway.

1118
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 2: Tama wants a report into it, and he told us

1119
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 2: on this program that he'd be getting the thing back asap,

1120
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Speaker 2: which turns out not to be true because Tapunacocher is

1121
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: doing it. They only release the terms of reference on Monday,

1122
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 2: and Doug Craig, who's the director at RDC Group Consultancy,

1123
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 2: is going to have a look at this. They were

1124
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: run yesterday. They said, when you reckon because Tarma said

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00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: July and they went the Marii Development head secretary for

1126
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: Mary Development, Dave Samuel's he may their words, not mine,

1127
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: may release the final report. Indeed he may not. So

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00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: hold on who's running the program here? Is Tarma running

1129
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 2: it or is Dave running it? Tapunacochri will need to

1130
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: consider what is appropriate to release when it receives and

1131
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: considers the report from the independent review. What crap's at?

1132
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: That's and that, in a nutshell, is the problem with

1133
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 2: the public service. They're so far up themselves they think

1134
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 2: they're important. And this is where Tarma comes in. And

1135
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 2: I hope he's on the phone to them saying that

1136
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 2: report the moment you get it comes to my desk

1137
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,919
Speaker 2: and I'll be putting in it out publicly or else.

1138
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: Yet again, I'm going to have to bring him. Sixteen

1139
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: away from eight.

1140
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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1141
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: by News Talks, It'd be.

1142
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Speaker 2: Hi, Mike haven't Hickins admitting he had the wrong advice

1143
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 2: about homelessness, flocking to rote to Rua when there was

1144
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: plenty of evidence to the contrary. That was John, Thank

1145
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 2: you for the text that came out. I can't remember

1146
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: what was that the weekend or late last week, and

1147
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: what it showed me was the very clear problem with

1148
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 2: people like Chippy is that he is not out in

1149
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 2: the real world and they live by die by what

1150
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 2: they're told by wants and bureaucrats who aren't out in

1151
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,439
Speaker 2: the real world either, And that's how you got wrote

1152
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: a uas so wrong. The reason I re raised the

1153
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,280
Speaker 2: old chipster he was on with Nick yesterday and Wellington.

1154
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: I think stuff got onto this and I don't think

1155
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: stuff understand what news is these days. It's because he

1156
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: was talking about ram raids. Nick apparently asked him a

1157
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: whole bunch of different stuff in the interview about that

1158
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 2: came up with ram raids, and I think stuff, I

1159
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: think it was stuff tried to make something of this anyway.

1160
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: Hipkins goes, you know ram raids and Nick was saying, well,

1161
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,760
Speaker 2: you know, you don't see ramraids anymore, and Hipkins says, quote,

1162
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: it's because your Tory owners that enzed me and ZI

1163
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: means the parent company of this particular radio station. It's

1164
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: because your Tory owners that end zed me have decided

1165
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: not to put it on the front page. Anymore. It's

1166
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: still happening. It's just enzed me have decided that it's

1167
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 2: not in the government's best interests, and they do, the

1168
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: National parties singing for them, and so they're not covering

1169
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 2: it as much anymore. Now I know Chippy well enough

1170
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: to know he's joking. That's a throwaway line. He probably

1171
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 2: deep down means it, but I can hear him saying

1172
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: it in a jest like fashion, because he's not that

1173
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 2: loose around the language. Anyway. Bishop is listening Chris the aforementioned,

1174
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 2: and Chippy of course is wrong on this as well.

1175
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 2: So not only was he wrong on Roadoruver, he's wrong

1176
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: on ram raids. It's not obviously we're not covering anything up,

1177
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Speaker 2: and obviously we're not doing anyone's bidding. We just like

1178
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: to deal with the facts, particularly on this program. So

1179
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: the Bishop says, ram raids in twenty twenty two, when

1180
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 2: the Chipster was in charge seven hundred and fourteen to them,

1181
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, four hundred and ninety five, new government

1182
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, two hundred and nine, Mark's in charge

1183
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, and things change. So far this year,

1184
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: you know how many forty five so there's actually none

1185
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 2: to report, Chris, and no one's covering anything up but

1186
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: forty five down from seven hundred and fourteen. What's materially changed,

1187
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: you ask yourself, and the ANSWER's attitude. Simple as that,

1188
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: and that's all that was needed.

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Speaker 19: I didn't read much of the news over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Were you bus evil?

1191
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Speaker 1: He had a few things on the mic Hosking Breakfast

1192
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: with Bailey's Real Estate news Dogs, Debb.

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Speaker 2: Do you see the story of Shirley McQueen yesterday most

1194
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: uplifting story of the day certainly, if not the week.

1195
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Speaker 2: So Shirley was marking Shirley's eighty three and she's marking

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Speaker 2: her fifty year work anniversary at tarong Hospital. And I've

1197
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 2: got a bit of experience at tarong the hospital. My

1198
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: dad was at taro Hospital and my stepmum was at

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Speaker 2: tarong A Hospital as workers, not patients in fact long

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Speaker 2: standing and they probably know new Shirley. Anyway, she was

1201
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Speaker 2: marking fifty years in the job. I love what I

1202
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: do and it doesn't seem like fifty years. She started

1203
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: working at the hospital in nineteen seventy five. Incredible, we

1204
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: would we'd not only do the cleaning, but we'd also

1205
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Speaker 2: be serving cups of tea and dinners and doing the dishes.

1206
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 2: Now we just focus on the cleaning side and have

1207
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 2: a lot more technology to help us.

1208
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Speaker 3: Well, there you go.

1209
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 2: There's a happy cleaner, for goodness sake, a person and

1210
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: she's stick thin a fiddle, looks like she works every day.

1211
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: She looks like a person who's got the right attitude

1212
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: to life. Can I also congratulate it while while I'm

1213
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: in a good mood? A Lyric Wybery Smith who appears

1214
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: to be my favorite person at the spinoff Spinoffs an

1215
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: odd thing. Duncan Greaves will hate me for saying that,

1216
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: but nevertheless it's an odd thing. But Lyric appears to

1217
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: be the star of the show. So she's writing yesterday

1218
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 2: about Paul Goldsmith, who a year ago, July of twenty

1219
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 2: twenty four, made a whole lot of promises about the

1220
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: media in this country. And I commented at the time,

1221
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: and I've commented a number of times that Paul was

1222
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 2: on a hiding to nothing and as a politician with

1223
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: in charge of an industry you can't fix, don't make

1224
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: promises you're not going to deliver on. And he made

1225
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: a bunch of promises that he was never going to

1226
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: deliver on. He said he would take quote immediate action

1227
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: to support New Zealand's media and content production sectors. So

1228
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: there was the promise in his press release to progress

1229
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: the fair digital news bargaining bill. Now I said at

1230
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 2: the time quite clearly, I've said it many many times.

1231
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: It was going nowhere. Why it passed its first reading

1232
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 2: nearly two months after Goldsmith's promise, But it's been collecting

1233
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,919
Speaker 2: dust ever since. It's sitting in a bay. It's why, well,

1234
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: because we're looking at the Australian government. I said this

1235
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: at the time, and I said, the Australians have passed

1236
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: this rule. They don't have a clue what they're doing.

1237
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 2: They're not dragging Netflix and Google and all the others

1238
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 2: to some sort of table whereby you get a whole

1239
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: lot of money from them. Those people will cut their

1240
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 2: service off to a country, and if they're doing that

1241
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 2: in Australia, he's certainly not cutting us a good deal

1242
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: in New Zealand. So that's going nowhere. He was going

1243
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: to remove quote unquote outdated advertising restrictions which have been

1244
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: sitting stifling innovation. His words, not mine. In other words,

1245
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: he was going to let TV and radio run ads

1246
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: on Sunday in public holidays. Has he done that, No,

1247
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: he hasn't. Would we like him to do that, Yes

1248
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 2: we would. Would that generate some income, yes it would.

1249
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: Now that he can be held accountable for because he

1250
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: could have done it and he hasn't. That was an

1251
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: easy fix. Then he announced Culture and Heritage sort of

1252
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 2: a consultation document that proposed ensuring that smart televisions had

1253
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: local apps pre installed and displayed prominently. Now, as far

1254
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: as I know, Paul's not in charge of Samsung or

1255
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: any other person that makes a television. So once again

1256
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: he was saying stuff he was never going to be

1257
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 2: able to deliver on.

1258
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering, you know what, it'll make them do that? Well,

1259
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 4: if people want.

1260
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: That, correct, I'm just wondering if at which point of

1261
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: this dissertation do I use the word napui just to

1262
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: give you a sense of where my thinking on poor

1263
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 2: old Paul is. So that's going nowhere. Another idea he

1264
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: had in the last year was he was going to

1265
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: merge New Zealand on Air and the film Commission together. Now,

1266
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 2: whether that was going to materially make any difference to

1267
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 2: the world. I don't know. I mean, there'd be fewer

1268
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: wonks with pens and pieces of paper wondering around whether

1269
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: we should fund strange projects that nobody watches or listens to.

1270
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 2: But he hasn't done that either. So it's been a

1271
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 2: busy year for Paul. He did take some money off

1272
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 2: Radio New Zealand that Alan's worth a knighthood in my

1273
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: humble opinion, and he's committed six and a half million

1274
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: dollars over four years for hiring some regional journalists. And

1275
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 2: I think the regional journalist thing was slightly controversial under

1276
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: Labour because you had to Cowtower to Tataraty and all

1277
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 2: the other nonsense. But nevertheless, the regional journalist thing I

1278
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: think has been proven excellent and we're seeing some good

1279
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 2: coverage of some stuff around parts of the country you

1280
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't see otherwise. So I'll give them marks on that.

1281
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 2: But as Lyric quite rightly writes at length unless the

1282
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: other problem with the spinoff and newsroom they write, God,

1283
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: they write at length anyway, So I had to read

1284
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: that took me an hour and.

1285
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: A half to do.

1286
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for doing that.

1287
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: Summarize it up in about a minute and a half.

1288
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: But anyway, Paul needs to do better on the media,

1289
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: or if he can't, don't promise you'll do stuff you

1290
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: can't deliver in the first place, would be my piece

1291
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: of advice. Jason el Vane.

1292
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Speaker 1: Next, the news and the news makers, the Mic Hosking

1293
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: breadvest with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial

1294
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Speaker 1: and rural news talk.

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Speaker 9: Sad be he had a sunny little beamer with the

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Speaker 9: rags up there sitting in the draft, but you wouldn't get.

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Speaker 2: At it was seven past sight from another country's biggest

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Speaker 2: names heading away early next year, Jason Eldeen. He headed

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Speaker 2: to Nashville at the age of twenty one. He was signed,

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Speaker 2: who got dropped? Eventually did a deal the day be

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Speaker 2: rolled out about twenty years ago, thirty number one singles later,

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Speaker 2: almost twenty billion stream was, twenty million albums sold, multiple

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Speaker 2: Grammy nominations, American Country music artist of that decade. The

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Speaker 2: full Throttle Tour is New Zealand bound. Jason Eldean as

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Speaker 2: well as from Nashville, good morning.

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Speaker 9: Good morning, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Then, now, as a guy who's been around a while,

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Speaker 2: I I've just for your knowledge. I've been a country

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Speaker 2: music fan my entire life, and so I suffered for

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Speaker 2: many many years listening to people's music that others would go,

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Speaker 2: what country, Why do you listen to country? What's in

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Speaker 2: the country? It's something, and yet suddenly it is huge.

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Speaker 2: You must have enjoyed that ride.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I kind of always thought country music

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Speaker 9: was cool. You know, I kind of gravitated toward guys that,

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Speaker 9: you know, I thought were a little bit different, guys

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Speaker 9: like Ronnie Millsap and Alabama and some of those guys

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Speaker 9: when I was growing up. And you know, I think

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Speaker 9: with every sort of new generation of artists, we we

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Speaker 9: bring our influences into the into the genre. And and

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Speaker 9: for me that was a lot of obviously a lot

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Speaker 9: of country music, but a lot of rock and southern

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Speaker 9: rock and roll too. And so, you know, I think

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Speaker 9: now when people turn on the radio, turn on country radio,

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Speaker 9: if you hadn't listened to it in a while, you know,

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Speaker 9: it's different. There's there's things all over the board, from

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Speaker 9: you know, pop country stuff to now it's you know,

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Speaker 9: it's switching back around. Guys like Zach Top coming out

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Speaker 9: that are super traditional again, and so there's a little

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Speaker 9: bit of everything, man, And I think it's a it's

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Speaker 9: a fun time.

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Speaker 2: Is music beta for it? Is country music beta for it?

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Speaker 6: Is it?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Beta for it? The whole experience? More artists, more doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean better.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I I think so. I mean, I

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Speaker 9: think it's it's you know the old say, and it's uh,

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Speaker 9: quality versus quantity. I guess you know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: It's like, you want to have a lot of great

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Speaker 9: artists that are making great records, and you know, a

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Speaker 9: lot of times there's sort of this almost like this

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Speaker 9: flush of new artists that come in and you got,

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Speaker 9: you know, all these songs and all these names, and

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Speaker 9: it's kind of hard to put a face with a name.

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Speaker 9: And then all of a sudden, you know, guys start,

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Speaker 9: you know, so the cream kind of rises to the top,

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Speaker 9: guys start breaking through, and you know, and you start

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Speaker 9: to see who those guys are, and it's you know,

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Speaker 9: it's cool and those are the ones that you know,

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Speaker 9: the most impactful or those kind of guys. But you know,

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Speaker 9: now it's streaming and all the things all over the place.

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Speaker 9: You know, those those artists, those stars can kind of

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Speaker 9: come out of nowhere and come from anywhere. So it's

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Speaker 9: just a different time. You know, it's a different time

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Speaker 9: than it was when I kind of hit the scene.

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Speaker 9: And right now you just kind of never know what

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Speaker 9: that next artist is gonna come from.

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Speaker 2: You another one of these You move to Nashville to

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Speaker 2: make it big and you did. How The last person

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Speaker 2: I interviewed who did that was Luke Colmbs and that

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Speaker 2: worked for him, it worked for you. How many people

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Speaker 2: do move to Nashville? All those people, how many actually

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Speaker 2: make it? How reals that story?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I don't know what the number is, but

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Speaker 9: I gotta I gotta say that, you know, out of

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Speaker 9: the people that moved to Nashville, you know, And I

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Speaker 9: guess it depends on what you're what making it means.

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Speaker 9: You know, if if making it means you get a

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Speaker 9: record deal, then then there's probably a lot of those people.

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Speaker 9: If making it means you come in, you start writing songs,

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Speaker 9: and you start getting your songs cut. For a lot

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Speaker 9: of people, that's their goal. And I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 9: that's that for me. I feel like the people that

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Speaker 9: come to town trying to get a deal, that that

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Speaker 9: really get out there and you know, it really happens

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Speaker 9: for him on a on a big level. I got

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Speaker 9: to think that that percentage is pretty small. You know,

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Speaker 9: probably maybe maybe five percent if if you're lucky. You know,

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Speaker 9: everybody comes, every artist, see, everybody that wants to be

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Speaker 9: a country music singer comes to Nashville. Their goal is

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Speaker 9: to get a record deal and you know, get played

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Speaker 9: on the radio and be able to go tour and

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Speaker 9: do all those things. And the reality is it's just hard, man.

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Speaker 9: Even some of the I mean, some of the best

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Speaker 9: singers I've ever heard that have come through this town

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Speaker 9: that just for whatever reason, it didn't it didn't happen

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Speaker 9: for him, and you don't really know why that is.

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Speaker 9: So it's a tough business man, and and you know,

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Speaker 9: fortunately for us, we were one of the few that

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Speaker 9: that kind of was able to break through. And now

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Speaker 9: we've been around for twenty years, so it's been a

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Speaker 9: it's been a good ride, but it's it's definitely a

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Speaker 9: tough business. And you know, not for the faint of heart,

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Speaker 9: for sure.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe that if you're truly gifted, you will succeed.

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Speaker 9: I think it depends, man. I think it's a combination

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Speaker 9: of a lot of things. You know, it's you know,

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Speaker 9: I think you kind of have to be you know, obviously,

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Speaker 9: talent has to be there, you have to have that.

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Speaker 9: I think you also need a lot of a lot

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Speaker 9: of luck on yourself, a lot of you know, surrounding

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Speaker 9: yourself for the right team, I think is really key

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Speaker 9: to that. But just because you're a great artist and

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Speaker 9: a great singer, great guitar player, whatever it is, that

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Speaker 9: doesn't necessarily mean it's going to happen for you. You know,

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Speaker 9: you got to you still got to have hit songs

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Speaker 9: that that's kind of what moves everything is. The songs

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Speaker 9: kind of make everything else go. So you could be

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Speaker 9: the best singer in the world, but if you don't

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Speaker 9: know how to pick a hit, you know, it's just

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Speaker 9: for Sometimes it just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, hold on, I'll give you the dates in

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Speaker 2: a moment for his two hero and the Early pot

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Speaker 2: up next year. Jason o'lde more shortly twelve past eight the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio, pow

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Speaker 1: it by News talks.

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Speaker 2: Hip be a News talks Hit be quarter past date, Jason,

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Speaker 2: I'll Dean with us out of Nashville. Now we're talking,

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Speaker 2: you know, before the breakabout success and hits and all

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Speaker 2: that sort of stuff and all the number ones you've

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Speaker 2: had and you've got twenty years under your belt. Now

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Speaker 2: what's a hit today is to say what was a

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Speaker 2: hit twenty years ago? And how's that changed? And how

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Speaker 2: do you know?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think for me personally, it's probably change

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Speaker 9: just from a standpoint of when I cut my first album,

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Speaker 9: I was twenty seven, twenty six or twenty seven years old.

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Speaker 9: So obviously there's some songs that I cut on that

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Speaker 9: record that now you know, at forty eight, I wouldn't cut.

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Speaker 9: But I think ultimately it's the same. I mean, you

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Speaker 9: want something, you know, you want a song that says

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Speaker 9: something you wanted to kind of to me, I like

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Speaker 9: to cut songs and it feels like I wrote, you know,

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Speaker 9: something that I wanted to write, and you know, and

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Speaker 9: it has to be melodically cool, it has to be

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Speaker 9: lyrically something that I would say, and I think sonically

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Speaker 9: just something that's easy on the ears that you want

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Speaker 9: to listen to over and over and over. And I think,

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Speaker 9: you know, it's a combination of a lot of those things.

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Speaker 9: For me, anyway, That's the way I look at it.

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Speaker 9: You know, and now I'm you know, trying to cut

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Speaker 9: songs that maybe, uh, I don't know, for lack of

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Speaker 9: a better term, have a little more meat on the

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Speaker 9: bone than they did when I was, you know, a

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Speaker 9: twenty six, twenty seven year old kid coming up in

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Speaker 9: the business. So but back then, we were doing songs

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Speaker 9: like Hicktown. You know, it was more fun and just

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Speaker 9: trying to establish like, hey, we're country music, but it's

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Speaker 9: it's kind of in your face rock and roll too.

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Speaker 9: And it was a really fine line of trying to

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Speaker 9: let people know that that's what we did. But then

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Speaker 9: it was also we could have those songs that had

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Speaker 9: some meat on the bone like an Amberillosky and those

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Speaker 9: kind of things too, and all that was on the

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Speaker 9: first record. So I think consciously, for me, that was

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Speaker 9: something that I wanted to do in the beginning. And

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Speaker 9: the older I've gotten, you know, you try to focus

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Speaker 9: more on like the you know, the the real songs

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Speaker 9: that have a great lyric and you know, you feel

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Speaker 9: like are going to be around for a while, and

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Speaker 9: some of the little tongue in cheek things I'd stay

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Speaker 9: away from a little more than I used to. But

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Speaker 9: different time in life we're twenty years, twenty years down

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Speaker 9: the road at this point.

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Speaker 2: Does it get easier as success hits you or how to?

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Speaker 9: I don't know. I think it's it's hard to get success,

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Speaker 9: you know, and I'm sure you've heard this before, but

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Speaker 9: it's hard to get that initial success. You know, you

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Speaker 9: wait a lifetime to get that, and then all of

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Speaker 9: a sudden it you know, at least in our case,

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Speaker 9: it kind of came out of nowhere. After you know, however,

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Speaker 9: many years, fifteen years, all of a sudden it came

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Speaker 9: out of nowhere. And then then you've got to kind

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Speaker 9: of maintain that. So now you got all these expectations of, oh,

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Speaker 9: your last album did this, and you had this many

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Speaker 9: number ones off the last album and it's sold this much.

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Speaker 9: So anything that doesn't do that on the next record

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Speaker 9: is not considered a failure. But you feel like, you know,

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Speaker 9: you're kind of losing a little bit of momentum, and

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Speaker 9: that's not always the case. I just think as you

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Speaker 9: get older as an artist, you're not the shiny new

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Speaker 9: penny anymore, you know what I mean, and you kind

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Speaker 9: of have to like find ways to reinvent yourself a

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Speaker 9: little bit. And so I think it gets a little

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Speaker 9: harder to keep the momentum going and kind of stay

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Speaker 9: on top, but it's not real easy to get there.

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Speaker 9: And the initially either.

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Speaker 2: Way, does touring fit into this because I look at

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Speaker 2: your schedule, man, you working your ass off.

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, I love the tour. I mean, that's

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Speaker 9: why I got into the business. I love making records.

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Speaker 9: That's fun. But I do that so I can go

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Speaker 9: tour and play those on the road, and so you know,

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Speaker 9: all the other stuff has kind of worked. The touring

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Speaker 9: side of it, to me is the fun part that

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Speaker 9: I get to go and you know, jump on stage

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Speaker 9: with my band and hang out and have fun and

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Speaker 9: you know, play for people. That's why that's why I

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Speaker 9: started doing it. That's what's fun for me. And you know,

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Speaker 9: so to me, man, as long as people are coming

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Speaker 9: out and interested in what we're doing, we're gonna go

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Speaker 9: out and keep trying to get better and you know,

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Speaker 9: come up with cool ways to make albums and go

1506
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 9: out and tour and give them something that they haven't

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01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 9: seen before. And that's the goal for us every year.

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Speaker 2: Fantastic. What's your business philosophy? Because in looking at you,

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01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,520
Speaker 2: you you got quite the thing going on in restaurants

1510
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: and food and wine and all that sort of stuff.

1511
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 2: Are you across all of that? Do you run your

1512
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: whole thing?

1513
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 9: Well, there's a lot of people in place that run that.

1514
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 9: I can't tell you that I do that myself. But

1515
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 9: you know, the one thing I have always tried to

1516
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 9: do is really pay attention to you know, as you

1517
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 9: has this you know kind of happens and you become

1518
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 9: more famous and those kind of things. You know, you

1519
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 9: get a lot of opportunities that come your way. People

1520
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 9: come in and you know, want to partner up with

1521
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 9: you on different things. And the biggest thing for me

1522
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 9: is to make sure that it's something that that I

1523
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 9: feel really good about, that I feel like represents me

1524
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,880
Speaker 9: and my brand and something that I want to put

1525
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 9: my name on. And there's been a lot of things

1526
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 9: that we've said no to and and to me, you know,

1527
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 9: if it's something that makes sense and it's something that

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 9: I think is a good idea or something that I

1529
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 9: I think is cool that I want to see through,

1530
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 9: then uh, then we do those things. And sometimes you

1531
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 9: hit a home run and sometimes you strike out, but

1532
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 9: you just you know, figure it out and you know

1533
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 9: it's been fun kind of learning that business side of everything, uh,

1534
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 9: from the restaurant side to the you know, getting into

1535
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 9: the liquor business and the wine business and uh, you know,

1536
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 9: the bar business, all those things. So I'm I've kind

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 9: of learned as I've gone and kind of learn to

1538
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 9: be a better business guy more so than I was

1539
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 9: in the beginning. And you know, but it's been a

1540
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 9: lot of you know, learning on the job kind of thing.

1541
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 2: Well, it's your summer there by the time you get here,

1542
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:14,559
Speaker 2: it'll be our summer. So and it's next year of course,

1543
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: but we're very appreciative that you're coming our way and

1544
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: we're looking forward to it.

1545
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 9: Well, I appreciate it, man, looking forward to getting back

1546
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 9: down there, seeing you guys, and I can't wait to

1547
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 9: play some shows for you.

1548
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 2: And do well, look forward to it. Jason Eldean out

1549
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: of Nashville. So, as far as we're considering this part

1550
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,320
Speaker 2: of the world, Auckland Feb nineteen, Feb nineteen, that's its

1551
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: Spark Arena. If you're not going to go in Auckland,

1552
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 2: then he's basically doing Australia. I'm just looking at is

1553
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 2: it the Rod Laver Arena, which is good for tennis.

1554
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: I don't know whether it's good for a concert or not.

1555
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 2: But he's in the Hunter Vlly. I like the Hunter

1556
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 2: Valley at Sunburn Country, which I'm assuming as a festival,

1557
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: so I'd go see him the Hunter Vlley if you

1558
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: don't want to go see him in Auckland anyway. Jason

1559
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,600
Speaker 2: Eldeen hitting our way February next year, eight twenty.

1560
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: One, The mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita Retirement Communities News,

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01:11:58,640 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: Togstead be.

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01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,599
Speaker 2: My daughter yesterday said it was snowing in the Hunter Bellley.

1563
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 2: I find that very hard to believe, Murray. But the

1564
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 2: weather's been weird across the across the Tasman, not the

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01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: whole world.

1566
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 4: What's behind that?

1567
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: Do you reckon behind the strange weather?

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01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 2: I reckon they shouldn't. Scientist should get into that, see

1570
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 2: what happens. I don't know if you've heard, but the

1571
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: bridge may close my ongoing theme with the bridge may close.

1572
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:29,840
Speaker 2: The bridges in Auckland, by the way, and the question

1573
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 2: is how many times do who is what are they

1574
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: calling themselves? These is nzta whatever they call themselves? How

1575
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 2: many times do they have to say repeated ad nausea

1576
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 2: and by the digital media, EE heralds and stuffs and stuff.

1577
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 2: How many times do they have to say the bridge

1578
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:50,759
Speaker 2: may close and it doesn't before everyone just goes stop

1579
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 2: saying the bridge may close. What's the answer is at

1580
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 2: twenty is a hundred? Has the bridge ever closed?

1581
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 23: I think it's closed, but only when they haven't told

1582
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 23: anybody that it's going to.

1583
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: When you're in the office and you're going and you're

1584
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 2: in charge of the bridge closed message, does anyone else

1585
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 2: in the office go not that again?

1586
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 23: But remember all those times that chucks have fallen over

1587
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 23: and broken it, And then it's.

1588
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 2: I do I do remember that one time and it

1589
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: didn't break. It didn't even fall over. It just leaned

1590
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: against it momentarily. And the world changed at that point,

1591
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 2: wasn't it. That's where the world changed? At that particular

1592
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 2: moment in time. The world changed for Aucklander's who were

1593
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:38,640
Speaker 2: forever to be bothered incessantly and endlessly by boring bureaucrats

1594
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 2: who have no sense of anything other than the importance

1595
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 2: of sending out yet another email to get another board

1596
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 2: journalist in a digital newsroom to yet again warn us

1597
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 2: that something may happen that doesn't. Is the Defense Force.

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01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: I have to come back to this after a thirty now,

1599
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: because I went on too much about the bridge. Is

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Speaker 2: the Defense Force getting gifts and hospitality? He passed off

1601
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: as building business relationships? Now here's the headline. The headline

1602
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: was how much, how much?

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01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 6: How much?

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01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: How many gifts and hospitality did they received? In the

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,720
Speaker 2: answers four hundred and nineteen thousand dollars worth? And you

1606
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 2: immediately go, what are you serious? One hundred and nine

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01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: almost half a million dollars. But then of course down

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01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 2: the article it goes, this happened between twenty sixteen and

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, so in other words, nine years. So

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01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: four hundred thousand dibarted by nine is give or take

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 2: forty thousand dollars a year for a whole defense force.

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01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 2: Is that a lot of stuff? And what are you

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01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: buying if you give somebody in the defense force something?

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01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 4: I'll come back to what any planes from Qatar in

1615
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 4: the area?

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: Now there's no planes. There's a Tom Tom watch.

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01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 4: There's a shame, isn't it that there's no planes.

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Speaker 2: It would be good if it was a plane. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: I'll come back and break this down for you after

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Speaker 2: the news, which is next.

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Speaker 1: The only report you need to start your day The

1622
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 1: Mic casting, Breakfast with Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life, Your Way News,

1623
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 1: togs Head been.

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01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 2: Mike Rod Labor is brilliant for concert winter, Keith Herban

1625
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 2: the good excuse for a weekend in Melbourne. Fair enough, Mike.

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: It was snowing in the Hunt yesterday, but it was

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 2: melting as it hit the ground. Not surprised. We had

1628
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: a stud farm at the top of the Hunter. So

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01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 2: daughter's correct, Thank you Morris. Meantime, this business of Rachel

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01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: Reeves is fascinating. She melted down. She wasn't. Here's Rachel

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: Reeves the Chancellor of the Exchequer in Britain. She was

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01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 2: in Question Times broadcast of the Nation. Of course, in

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01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,400
Speaker 2: tears so bednot was being well, well, kind and gentle.

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01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 24: Yeah, she looks absolutely miserable. Labor MPs. They can points

1635
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 24: as much as Nick can points, as much as they like.

1636
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 24: The fact is labor MPs are going on the record

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01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 24: saying that the Chancellor is toast and the reality is

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Speaker 24: that she is a human shield for his incompetent, that

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01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,360
Speaker 24: his is starmer.

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01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: Of course he was being kind and gentle too.

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01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 19: I was to speaker.

1642
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 16: I have to say I always cheered up when she

1643
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 16: asked me questions or responds to a statement, because she

1644
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 16: always makes a complete, massive, and irrelevant.

1645
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 17: They are international correspondence with ins and eye insurance, peace

1646
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:08,879
Speaker 17: of mind for New Zealand business.

1647
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 2: Yes, what's going on at B's money?

1648
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 15: Mike goodballing to you?

1649
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 2: This is there more to this than meets the I mean,

1650
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 2: first of all, Rachel reeves and teas at question time

1651
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 2: as the whole nation watches. It is one thing, and

1652
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 2: it's a market mover. But do we know what leads

1653
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 2: to it? What's the story?

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01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,719
Speaker 15: Well, there are several different explanations for it. The first

1655
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 15: is that she had an unspecified personal difficulty, which she

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01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,000
Speaker 15: hasn't told us anything about. That's what she has said,

1657
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 15: and it's what Starmer has said. Secondly is that she

1658
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:44,839
Speaker 15: was still reeling from a poisonous exchange with the Speaker

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01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 15: of the House of Commons, Lindsay Hoyle, who had tipped

1660
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 15: her off a couple of days before about two long answers.

1661
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 15: And the third one, and this is the one which

1662
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 15: I think the entire country will believe, is that she

1663
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 15: was under an awful lot of pressure and had to

1664
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 15: sit there and listen as kelear Starmer failed to stand

1665
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 15: up for her in the House of Commons. Well, it

1666
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 15: seemed as if she was going to be thrown under

1667
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 15: a bus in order to preserve his position. And you know,

1668
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 15: we may hear more detail later, but that's what I

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01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 15: would cleave too, frankly, as as an explanation.

1670
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 2: How big a deal is it? And the reason I

1671
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: asked that is that is the yield on the bond

1672
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 2: market did move when they saw it, and the borrowing

1673
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 2: costs for the British government went up, So there was

1674
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,080
Speaker 2: a material market move as a result of watching a

1675
01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 2: chancellor in tears and question times. I mean, you don't

1676
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 2: see that very often, do you?

1677
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 15: You don't. I mean we ought to remember that the

1678
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 15: markets like stability more than anything else. Would seemed to

1679
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 15: prefer stability when it's downhill to stability of an upward variation.

1680
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,480
Speaker 15: By what I mean is that nobody, nobody could argue

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 15: that Rachel Reeves has been a successful chancellor. That being said,

1682
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 15: I have no doubt that the real villains of this piece,

1683
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 15: with the labor backbenchers, the morons who believe that we

1684
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,599
Speaker 15: have money simply to throw away, and that there is

1685
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 15: there is no need to arrest our incredible addiction to

1686
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 15: spending and spending and spending. You know you heard these

1687
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 15: labor mpces rebels speak, well, we can't let down that

1688
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,320
Speaker 15: the elderly, we can't let down that they're disabled. We

1689
01:18:39,400 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 15: can't let we haven't got the money. It really is that.

1690
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 6: Straightforward, precisely.

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01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: I mean you don't want to object by it. And

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01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:49,679
Speaker 2: I suppose there's an a gender thing at play here

1693
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 2: to the extent that I mean, looking at the pictures Rod,

1694
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 2: she looks dreadful, doesn't she. I mean the under her eyes,

1695
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: there's no escape. She looks appalled in one wonders for

1696
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:04,480
Speaker 2: her mental health, whether she's got the wherewithal and afforditude

1697
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 2: to carry on.

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01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 15: Well, well, indeed, I think that's absolutely right, and I

1699
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 15: think you would also be very very dignified of her

1700
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 15: to say, look, I was trying to save the British economy.

1701
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,440
Speaker 15: You've given it away by caving into a bunch of rebels.

1702
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 15: I'm not doing this anymore. Get someone else, and I

1703
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 15: think she would be happier for a while. But of

1704
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 15: course there is pride at stake as well. You know,

1705
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 15: she doesn't want to be remembered as probably the least

1706
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 15: successful chancellor. Well, I suppose you would say this is

1707
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 15: quasi quarte. But going back before then, even because her

1708
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 15: first budget was disastrous, you know, it was launched with

1709
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 15: the with the cry of we we must go for growth,

1710
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 15: that is the number one priority. And she scoffed that

1711
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 15: by putting national insurance up on employers. I know that, Eddie.

1712
01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 2: Sorry, go just I mean just I'm looking at I'm

1713
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: looking at Raina there, and I'm looking at Starma there,

1714
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: and and they if you're in charge of the money

1715
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 2: and there isn't any moving the bond market and you did,

1716
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: It's just like they look bad, don't they. I mean,

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Speaker 2: would the average.

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Speaker 15: Yes, yes, I mean labor is doing terribly badly in

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Speaker 15: the opinion polls. People really don't like this government. And yes,

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Speaker 15: it does look bad. It looks bad at a number

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Speaker 15: of levels. Firstly, that that despite the fact that later

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Speaker 15: he backtracked and said that Rachel Reefs was going nowhere,

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Speaker 15: which could be interpreted in many ways. Suppose that he

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Speaker 15: left her out to dry. You know, when asked directly

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Speaker 15: in the House of Commons about about whether she would

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Speaker 15: still be the chanceller in four years time. He refused

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Speaker 15: to answer, and that it's just such. He has been

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Speaker 15: criticized for his behavior before, particularly towards female MPs. A

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Speaker 15: friend of mine is an MP there Rosy Duffield who

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Speaker 15: left the party in September and just found his manner odious.

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Speaker 15: And I think that's what I think a lot of

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Speaker 15: people possibly saw in the House of Commons today.

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Speaker 2: Think you're right, okay, mate, we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate very much. Rod Little. Just before we leave Britain.

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Speaker 2: The National Grid may well be receiving a lawyer's letter

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Speaker 2: because you remember the National Grid was responsible and certainly

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Speaker 2: the airport Heathrow will argue the case. But when Heathrow

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Speaker 2: burst into flames and Heathrow got closed and thousands and

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Speaker 2: thousands and thousands of people were unfortunately re rooted and

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Speaker 2: they rang the head of Heathrow, he had his phone

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Speaker 2: on silent. I'm sure they'll be raised in the court issue.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, he thrower looking to sue the National Grid

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Speaker 2: because the problem was known. They claim at the substation

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Speaker 2: they were aware of the problems. Is twenty eighteen failed

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Speaker 2: to fix that. The lawyer are going to get involved

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Speaker 2: in that. And I've got the update on small boat

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Speaker 2: crossings in the Channel. Twenty thousand people have arrived in

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Speaker 2: the UK for the first half of this year. Because

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Speaker 2: the end of June just came the other day. Small

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Speaker 2: boats are up forty eight percent on the year. On

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Speaker 2: Sunday alone, this past Sunday alone, fifteen hundred people arrived

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Speaker 2: in Britain illegally via boat from France, seventy five percent

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Speaker 2: high from the equivalent figureback in twenty twenty three. There's

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Speaker 2: some legislation through the Parliament at the moment. They want

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Speaker 2: to use some counter terror powers against people, smugglers, travel

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Speaker 2: band social media blackouts, phone restrictions, all of that sort

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Speaker 2: of stuff. Already, twenty twenty five has been a new

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Speaker 2: record for small boat arrivals in the first six months

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Speaker 2: of this year since data first started getting collected. And

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Speaker 2: this is interesting because it tells you how new the

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Speaker 2: problem is. The data first started getting collected in twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 2: so it's hardly a long term issue, very much a

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Speaker 2: recent one. In every government in the recent days that

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Speaker 2: said they'll fix it, and no one has eight forty five.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: Talks at b Mike talking of Rachael Reeves, did you

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Speaker 2: notice the picture briefly appear at the end of Clarkson's

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Speaker 2: Farm all the conspiracy. I don't think John, that was

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Speaker 2: a conspiracy. Yes I did. That'll be to do with

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Speaker 2: the fact that she changed the taxes around intergenerational farm

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Speaker 2: management in this country and farmer's hater. Interesting report out

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Speaker 2: this morning on millionaires leaving Britain. They reckon last year

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Speaker 2: that there were about eleven thousand of them ten thousand,

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Speaker 2: eight hundred left Britain. There are seventy fourth thousand. This

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Speaker 2: is the non don stuff she changed, and so you're

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Speaker 2: now being picked at forty percent, whereas before you got

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Speaker 2: away with it. And so last year ten thousand, eight

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Speaker 2: hundred millionaires left Britain, which is up one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty seven percent, more than any country in the world

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Speaker 2: apart from China. This morning Henleyan Partners are reporting that

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Speaker 2: they think this year it'll be sixteen thousand, five hundred millionaire.

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Speaker 2: So between the two years you're talking about twenty seven

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Speaker 2: twenty eight thousand millionaires leaving Britain. Briefly, back to this

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Speaker 2: business of the defense force. The thing that I found

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Speaker 2: interesting and whether they're sort of alarm four hundred and

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Speaker 2: nineteen thousand dollars worth of I don't know what you

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Speaker 2: call it, gifts from various peace between twenty sixteen and

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, so over a ninety a period. I

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Speaker 2: mean forty thousand dollars a year for an entire force.

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Speaker 2: I mean a Tom Tom watch, some Tom Tom watch accessories,

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01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 2: some beer, wine and spirits. They were hosted in a

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01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: hospitality boat during the America's Cup. It's an alarming amount

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Speaker 2: of money. Who said that, Tiana Tuiono, who's the Green

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Speaker 2: Party Defense Boake's person, It's an alarming amount of money.

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Speaker 2: It puts up red flags for me. It is forty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for an entire defense force. Here's the orders

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Speaker 2: to General has written to Air Marshall Tony Davies, who's

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Speaker 2: the Chief of Defense, acknowledges the military has begun cleaning

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Speaker 2: up practices. Says the number of nature of the gifts

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Speaker 2: and hospitality accepted as inconsistent with good practice in the

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Speaker 2: public sector. Broadly out agree with that. I'm not defending

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Speaker 2: any of this, but I'm just asking you. This's forty

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars worth of stuff over an entire defense force. Normally,

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Speaker 2: when you give people stuff, there's either it's just a

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01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 2: straight up and down gift, no strings attached, or it's

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Speaker 2: a heywear mate, let's get on and thanks for doing business.

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Speaker 2: Let's hope we can do some more business in the future.

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Speaker 2: What business is it the defense force is doing with anyone?

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Speaker 2: So if I give the rear Admiraler or the high

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Speaker 2: Commander or whatever other titles are a Tom Tom watch?

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Speaker 2: What I wanted? Am I saying when we get invaded,

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Speaker 2: make sure you get me first. What's happening there? I

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Speaker 2: mean they don't do I mean, with the greatest respect.

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Speaker 2: Outside a few hirks and stuff, they don't do a lot.

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Speaker 23: So is it like a you know, a celebrity endorsement

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Speaker 23: scenario where you see those soldiers, I don't know, replacing

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Speaker 23: a flooded out bridge, but they're wearing a Tom Tom watch.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see placement. Yeah, So you're seeing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because that could be in the middle of the news.

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Speaker 2: You know he's wearing a Tom Tom. People might go

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Speaker 2: as he saves lives, they got it. Green Guy's right

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Speaker 2: scandal needs to win immediately. Nine away from nine the.

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Speaker 1: Make Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Octor News Tom's head b.

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Speaker 2: S Living Away from nine. Very excited to tell you

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Speaker 2: that Dan Wallace and Anthony Clyde, who started a company

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Speaker 2: called Bill Duro in the by, have plenty a min

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Speaker 2: at euro Bike in Frankfurt and Germany, highlight of the

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Speaker 2: global bike industry, a big, big show. They stand there

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Speaker 2: telling me as the talk of the show. They've got

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Speaker 2: the electric mountain bike at the gravel Bike. Have a

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Speaker 2: look at their website. We had them on the program

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Speaker 2: and the technology they're using I think it was Chinese.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember what drives it, but anyway, it's the

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Speaker 2: cleverness has won the design of the bike and to

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Speaker 2: the technology that drives it. Our stand was described as

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Speaker 2: one of the busiest in the show, and our bikes

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Speaker 2: were described as highlights of the show. What's really exciting

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Speaker 2: to me about Valdeuro is if you look at the website,

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Speaker 2: they're fantastic looking bikes and the technology behind them seems

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Speaker 2: very very clever. They're gob smackingly expensive and what I

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Speaker 2: like about that is that I don't think they're made

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Speaker 2: for New Zealanders generally, but they're made for the international market.

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Speaker 2: And that's more of what New Zealand should be doing.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Chinese. If you want to go baseline,

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Speaker 2: the Chinese is going to beat your knee bike all.

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Speaker 3: Day, every day.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the car industry is finding that out. So

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Speaker 2: you don't go baseline. What you do is you go

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Speaker 2: top end and you charge them like a wounded bull.

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Speaker 2: And as long as you're good, the world is full

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Speaker 2: of people who are prepared to pay that sort of money.

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Speaker 2: So well done them. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 1: Trending now with Chemis's warehouse celebrate big Brands and figure

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Speaker 1: cevi Well.

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Speaker 2: July fourth for US tomorrow Saturday is their time and

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Speaker 2: they need to do the vote for the big beautiful bill.

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Speaker 2: So where are we at? Republicans some of them not

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Speaker 2: too happy because some of them are having trouble reading

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Speaker 2: it because it's constantly getting changed. Late changes were made

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Speaker 2: for Alaska Mkowski from Alaska. She's a holdout, so they

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Speaker 2: need to do something for her to get her across

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Speaker 2: the line. This was pointed out between the debate. This

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Speaker 2: is Jonah Goose for the Dems and Jason Smith for

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Speaker 2: the Republicans.

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Speaker 25: I think you're missing one which one is that Wheeler's

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Speaker 25: What's that a new tax break for Wheeler's, right, am ill,

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Speaker 25: Are you talking about allowing someone who should uses a

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Speaker 25: harpen to deduct the cost of that harpen?

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Speaker 9: Correct, that's included.

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Speaker 8: It's a business expense.

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Speaker 2: It's a new tax break.

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Speaker 25: It's a business expense that was capped at ten thousand

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Speaker 25: dollars and now they can deduct.

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Speaker 8: It up to fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 6: Right, yes, yes, why was that added?

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Speaker 25: If we all knew, you'd have to talk to the senators.

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Speaker 8: I'd have to talk to the senators.

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Speaker 25: I've got a convenient chairman spit that that was the one.

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Speaker 2: Edition that you omitted from that list you provided.

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Speaker 25: But I think I probably more than I have.

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Speaker 6: Maybe the case is that all it took.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, she's a cheap dates, so.

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Speaker 2: She's a cheap date, so you got to also look up.

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Speaker 2: It was the most stunning thing. I don't know whether

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Speaker 2: she wanted to hit the guy or what about anyway, Mkowski,

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Speaker 2: who's a woman. If you don't follow it, Mkowski's walking

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Speaker 2: down the corridor yesterday after she's sort of holding out

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Speaker 2: in there, caving into her She's talking to a report

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Speaker 2: and he quotes another politician to her, a fellow Republican,

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Speaker 2: and she stops and stares at him, and then just

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Speaker 2: keeps staring at him, not for two or three seconds,

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Speaker 2: not for five or six or seven or eight or

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Speaker 2: nine or ten or eleven or twelve seconds, just keep

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Speaker 2: staring at him. And the guy eventually gets so embarrassed

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Speaker 2: he goes, I didn't say that, he said it. She

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01:29:27,720 --> 01:29:29,640
Speaker 2: stares at him some more, and he goes, look it

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Speaker 2: wasn't me. It was looking desperately for something. Look that

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Speaker 2: up today. It's well worth a watch. We're back tomorrow

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Speaker 2: morning from six as always, Happy Days.

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