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Speaker 2: Hello are you great New Zealands? Welcome to Matton Tyler

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Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number two four three four the fourteenth

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Speaker 2: of November. It's a Friday and it was third time

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Speaker 2: lucky to get this chat away. We're giving a giving

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Speaker 2: a former criminal a job and we had a great

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Speaker 2: chat with a guy called Hugo. It was uplifting to

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Speaker 2: the extreme. What a great New Zealander he is. You'll

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Speaker 2: love that call. We also had a bit of a

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Speaker 2: chat about the monster lot of weekend. What's your strategy

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Speaker 2: if you win the fifty five million dollars? And we

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Speaker 2: get a lawyer on the line who's advised big winners

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Speaker 2: in lotter And look, I'm running a marathon tomorrow you are,

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Speaker 2: so maybe I'll be listening to this podcast while they

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Speaker 2: run it. They'd be self sourcede wouldn't it? Just listen

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Speaker 2: to yourself? Will you run? But yeah, So we got

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Speaker 2: a bunch of a bunch of tips from people on

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Speaker 2: the phones, and we also address some allegations that were

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Speaker 2: throwing our way by Mike Hosking on has brief the

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Speaker 2: show that was.

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Speaker 3: So it's a good it's a great pod, so download,

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Speaker 3: subscribe and give us a review.

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Speaker 2: Go well tomorrow, mate, Thank you and thank you for

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Speaker 2: your your support. Peck here enjoy that. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 2: all right, love you guys.

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Speaker 4: Bye.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News

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Speaker 1: Talk said.

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Speaker 3: Me, very good afternoons you wow, Matt, that's that was

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Speaker 3: a hell of a sneeze.

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Speaker 2: I'd have said, three massive sneezes, double almost full. Yeah. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I was eating a sandwich when I went the year,

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Speaker 2: and today I'm sneezing up a storm when I go

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Speaker 2: to your Pola Sciences. Apologies primarily to you, Tyler.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that that was quite a spray. Actually,

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Speaker 3: they've got some distance that one.

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Speaker 2: No, that is that is not true. I employ that

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Speaker 2: that method that they teach and day here now, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they taught my kids where you put your elbow over

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Speaker 2: your phone. Oh yes, yeah, nice, I didn't see that. Actually,

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Speaker 2: you don't sneeze into your hands, yep, you sneeze right

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Speaker 2: into sort of your elbow hole.

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Speaker 3: You're pretty the elbow hole yeah, official word for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you're pretty fast on that. I've got

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the show. By the way, is Friday, So

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Speaker 3: great to have your company. How you doing, Matt, I

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Speaker 3: am doing pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Actually, thank you for asking.

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Speaker 3: Now before we just get into what's on the show today.

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Speaker 3: Look mate, we're gonna have a chat about this after three.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's a big day for you tomorrow. You've

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Speaker 3: got you've got the marathon underway. So I've been you know,

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Speaker 3: I've actually been an area you mate, over the last year.

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Speaker 3: You've been doing a lot of work leading up to

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Speaker 3: this marathon. So I thought i'd put together a little

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Speaker 3: race pack, little bit for you here. So I've got

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Speaker 3: I've got a few goodies in there that I may

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to go through this this running pack

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Speaker 2: for the Queenstown Marathon tomorrow, my first marathon, your first marathon. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm hopefully underprepared. So we'll be talking about that after three.

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Speaker 2: I haven't run in three weeks. Well, look at that's

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Speaker 2: the sparkling. You've got a bottle of bottle of champagne.

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Speaker 2: Yea bottle of champagne. So that's that's that's pre right yep.

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Speaker 2: If you carry woterem that's during yep.

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Speaker 3: This one, this one is vital. I think each anti

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Speaker 3: works on your nipples, that's fantastic. Yeah, so's on my thighs,

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Speaker 3: my buttalks. So no need for vesselin or olive oil

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Speaker 3: or you could do that as well.

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Speaker 2: You know what that is? That is great? That's what's this.

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Speaker 2: A nice pack and it's nice packs for at the

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Speaker 2: You're definitely going to need those. What a great man

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Speaker 2: you are. And what's this year? Is that a head band?

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Speaker 3: It's just a spear head band. A head band vital.

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Speaker 3: You don't think about the old head bands, you know.

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Speaker 2: All these things. I've been thinking about these things. But

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Speaker 3: And that's fresh there ha'n't been used before because I

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty proud about the anti chafing stuff I had,

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Speaker 3: so it's so high and low for that it's hard

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Speaker 2: So body glide, chafing and raw skin irritation, that's only

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Speaker 2: Well interesting, I went and bought a pair of Rundies today. Rundy's.

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Speaker 2: Rundy's are Undy's for running. They're especially designed with no

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Speaker 2: I'm touched by that, Tyler. What a nice gesture. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You deserve it, mate.

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Speaker 2: So at the end of my training. I was training

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Speaker 2: We'd like to hear your marathon stories. After three, eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who will it be? Nine two nine two If

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Speaker 3: After two o'clock, we all dream of winning lotto, especially

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Speaker 2: You're going to waste it all on drugs and women

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Speaker 2: Well, we've already the stories, we've seen the documentaries of

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Speaker 2: afternoons on news Talk, seid, so there is a higher

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Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a chat about this. We'll

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Speaker 3: That was because of choices in prison time. He served

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Speaker 2: but in New Zealand we cling on to it. It's

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Speaker 2: a as this university lecturer has said, this law lecturer said,

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Speaker 2: a never ending punishment. So you know you're just getting ahead,

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Speaker 2: You get your job and because of going to prison

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Speaker 2: for some burglaries thirty years ago, and yeah, deserve to

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Speaker 2: what point do you give these people a second chance? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I what one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 3: prison time more than thirty years ago? Love to get

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Speaker 3: your thoughts on this. Nine two ninety two is the

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Speaker 2: And should Kiwis with old prison records get a true

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Speaker 3: Yep, love to hear your thoughts. I want one hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call again?

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Speaker 3: It is fourteen past one.

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Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

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Speaker 1: everything in between. Madd Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons US talk.

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Speaker 3: Sa'd be for a good afternoons you seventeen past one?

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Speaker 3: Would you hire someone who had served prison time more

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Speaker 3: than thirty years ago? And our clean slate laws do

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Speaker 3: they need to be reformed? Because as it stands right now,

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Speaker 3: if you do serve prison time that does not fall

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Speaker 3: under the Clean Slate Act. Oh, one hundred and eighteen

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chris, welcome to the show. So you've you've very good.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for talking to us today. You've

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Speaker 7: Yep, probably over a period of ten years.

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Speaker 8: I'm well employed.

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Speaker 7: We're to release prisons which came out of a self

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Speaker 2: And what what business are you in Chris?

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Speaker 3: Not we're just having a few issues at the phone line, Chris,

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Speaker 7: Well, we had act You're not quite sure how it

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Speaker 9: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it possible for you to move? Are you at home?

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Speaker 7: I want a card? You want to turn radio off

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Speaker 2: Would you be able to do that? They would be

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Speaker 7: How's that?

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Speaker 2: Jesus. Nice, Chris, Jesus. Sound good. That is good stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's like you're sitting right beside me. Yeah, I love

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Speaker 10: Employee, same price they never got they went any cheaper

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Speaker 2: Did you care what they had been doing time for the.

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Speaker 10: First part part of the deal with me was part

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why why was it important for you to utilize

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Speaker 3: Was it something that you felt strongly about, that idea

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Speaker 2: They served their.

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Speaker 10: Time, you do, like, you know, like for the grace

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Speaker 10: I always remembered that, you know, And when I got

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Speaker 10: The owner of the business he was on board with it,

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Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Chris. That's you know a lot

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Speaker 10: Oh, some major fails. You wouldn't believe the files were paired.

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Speaker 10: More success than fails?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So describe describe what a successful you could you

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Speaker 2: describe Chris, what a successful you know, like tenure was,

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Speaker 2: was that working for you for a while, moving up

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Speaker 10: Well, well, there was a guy that worked for us

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Speaker 10: I've seen them all around the place working in different businesses,

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Speaker 10: You know, they threatened to start and stuff like that.

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Speaker 10: Right, that was the last one, you know to push

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Speaker 2: Did you have a situation though, And look, you wouldn't

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Speaker 10: Would I tried to read everyone equally, but it depending

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Speaker 10: It's a long but I think, yeah, yeah, there's good

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Speaker 10: And I met some that you know, you just knew

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Speaker 10: to change. You know, they might change for a little

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Speaker 10: But they're not really genuine about their motives about what

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Speaker 10: you know, but generally I think it was eighty percent success. Yeah, easy.

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Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Chris, because you know those guys

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Speaker 2: because you know there are those outside influences and if

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Speaker 2: there's a there's a good chance you'll end up going

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Speaker 2: back to your old way. So good on you, Chris,

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Speaker 2: and thank you so much for your call. Really appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: brilliant call.

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Speaker 3: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

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Speaker 3: to call? Would you consider employing someone with a criminal

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Speaker 3: hear your thoughts on this one. It's twenty seven past one.

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Speaker 1: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 12: Thanks about regulatory standards. Bill got through, Dandy drive it

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Speaker 12: through in the Ministry of Regulation. They would see more

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Speaker 12: of the Labor Party will flip it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's of course if the Labour Party. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I get all that, but you haven't got broad Bay

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Speaker 2: support on yes and no.

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Speaker 13: David Parker one of the more thoughtful guys I think,

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Speaker 13: would have been open to it. Duncan wear ballows that

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Speaker 13: he's not actually standing for christ Duke Central, so frankly

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Speaker 13: he's shooting blanks. Elena Williams stood up in the debates,

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Speaker 13: sung for the first two minutes, then cry, then talk

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Speaker 12: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with

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Speaker 12: a Vida News Talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Very good afternoons you. So we're asking the question, would

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Speaker 3: you hire someone who served prison time more than thirty

437
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Speaker 3: years ago? There's clearly a bit of a short fall.

438
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Speaker 3: Sum would say in our clean slate legislation as and

439
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Speaker 3: if you serve prison time, you're not eligible for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so shoo kiwis with old prison records, I get

441
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Speaker 2: a true clean slate. And would you hire someone who

442
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Speaker 2: had been in prison twenty thirty years ago or you know,

443
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Speaker 2: just someone that's that's been in prison recently. Yeah, nine

444
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Speaker 2: two is the text number. Oh, one hundred and eighty

445
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Speaker 2: ten eighty is the phone number this text Alie says,

446
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Speaker 2: I was caught with some cannabis on me back in

447
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Speaker 2: twenty twelve, pleaded guilty, got one hundred hours community service.

448
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Speaker 2: To this day, even though I disclose when applying for jobs,

449
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Speaker 2: I get a nah for it. I haven't touched cannabis

450
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Speaker 2: since then, by the way. See, I mean i'd definitely

451
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Speaker 2: hire someone that had been carked some cannabiates in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at the context of that and

453
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Speaker 3: you think, okay, that's you know that, in all honesty

454
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Speaker 3: these days, is a pretty small sort of crime.

455
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Speaker 2: When you look at the retrobates that work around news

456
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Speaker 2: talks 'db Yeah, I mean that person would probably the

457
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Speaker 2: least guilty person working here. Hey, guys, my work skirts

458
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Speaker 2: the Clean Slate Act by wording the application differently, we

459
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Speaker 2: ask have you been charged and found guilty of a

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Speaker 2: crime and any under the Clean Slate Act? Smart from

461
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Speaker 2: our end, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can skirt it with that

463
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Speaker 3: sort of question. I mean, look, if they answer it honestly,

464
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Speaker 3: then got on them. But if they decide not to

465
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Speaker 3: answer it, there's nothing you can do about that.

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Speaker 2: And Grant says, hey, boys, I've hired many staff over

467
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Speaker 2: the years who have had difficult backgrounds, including one Chap

468
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Speaker 2: who was an ex South Island mongrel mob leader who

469
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Speaker 2: had spent most of us out of life in prison.

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Speaker 2: He had managed to leave the gang and he was

471
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Speaker 2: an excellent worker for me. He was at his best

472
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Speaker 2: when his work was structured. Thanks for that text, Grant.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nice, keep those coming in nine two ninety two

474
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Speaker 3: were a bit late, so headlines coming up. Then excuse

475
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Speaker 3: me taking more of your calls on eight hundred and

476
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Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty would you take a punt on someone

477
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Speaker 3: with a criminal past or who had served prison time?

478
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Speaker 3: Love to get your thoughts twenty eight to two, and.

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Speaker 2: A bunch of people are texting this and I think

480
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Speaker 2: this is implusit in the discussion. That's the way to

481
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Speaker 2: say it. I wouldn't hire a sex offender. Yeah yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, you talk said the headlines with blue bubble

483
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Speaker 14: taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

484
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Speaker 15: New cops have graduated in Auckland today, with patron and

485
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Speaker 15: former Prime Minister Sir John Key admitting it's a tough

486
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Speaker 15: time for the force and trust is falling. He says

487
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Speaker 15: trust needs to be rebuilt and says with the work

488
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Speaker 15: of the Commissioner and colleagues it will be calls for

489
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Speaker 15: legislative chain to allow for more open banking and more

490
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Speaker 15: competition in the sector. Banking Reform Coalition convena Kent Dustin

491
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Speaker 15: says the sector won't change while the big four banks control.

492
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Speaker 2: Almost the entire market.

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Speaker 15: Five point nine million dollars has been dished out to

494
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Speaker 15: tourism providers through the government's Regional Tourism Boost RUT and

495
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Speaker 15: Z is getting the line share roughly four and a

496
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Speaker 15: half million dollars to attract travelers from Asia and Australia

497
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Speaker 15: to the North Island. Police have chosen a detection device

498
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Speaker 15: to be used in new roadside drug testing. It'll pick

499
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Speaker 15: up cannabis, meth amphetamine, MDMA and cocaine and confirm the

500
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Speaker 15: testing will begin rolling out in Wellington next month. A

501
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Speaker 15: Strawn picks the key tactics for the All Blacks test

502
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Speaker 15: against England. You can read the full column at enz

503
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Speaker 15: Herald Premium. Back to Matt Eath and Tyler Adams, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, Raylane. It's twenty four to two. This Texas says

505
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Speaker 2: it's repprobate, Matt, not retrobait, you absolute wounder. Yeah, what

506
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Speaker 2: would retrobate mean? Retrobate bait would be using a worm

507
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Speaker 2: when you're fishing instead of you know, some kind of

508
00:24:11,013 --> 00:24:15,133
Speaker 2: more modern bait. Yeah. Yeah, that keep us, keep us

509
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Speaker 2: on us till nine two nine two. When we say

510
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Speaker 2: often Tyler and I you may have noticed, well we'll

511
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Speaker 2: get a weird a little wrong, yeap. So my whole

512
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Speaker 2: life up to this point, I've been around the sun

513
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Speaker 2: a few times. I've been saying retrobate, yeah, instead of reprobate.

514
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it feels like English is a second language to me.

515
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Speaker 3: But we try here.

516
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Speaker 2: And there's what matters, because of course it comes from

517
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Speaker 2: the Latin, doesn't it.

518
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Speaker 3: So what is it actually? So the actual definition is

519
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Speaker 3: an unprincipal person.

520
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Speaker 10: Is that right?

521
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Speaker 2: Or a sinner. Yeah, so it comes from the Latin

522
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Speaker 2: for just off the top of my head, it comes

523
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Speaker 2: from the Latin pro bar, which means approval. There's some

524
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Speaker 2: good latter knowledge, yeah, or would it come from we

525
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Speaker 2: come from prabiri and so be riprebiere, which would mean

526
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Speaker 2: to fail the test, right, Yeah, yeah, you said that

527
00:25:03,213 --> 00:25:06,292
Speaker 2: very well. It's beautiful. Yeah, so that one again, repro Bardi.

528
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I like that your Latin is better than

529
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Speaker 2: your English. Oh yeah, absolutely. My mum was a Latin teacher.

530
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Speaker 10: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 2: Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

532
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Speaker 2: to call?

533
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Speaker 5: Jay?

534
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Speaker 2: How are you mate?

535
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Speaker 6: Hey?

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah.

537
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Speaker 16: There's definitely some problems with the clean slate that kind

538
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Speaker 16: of like just incentivize you to turn your life around.

539
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Speaker 16: But full disclosure, I've got a criminal record three pages long.

540
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Speaker 16: I don't have any victims. But you know, in order

541
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Speaker 16: to get through that seven years, you've got to have

542
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Speaker 16: a lot of patience, resilience commitments, and sometimes you're not

543
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Speaker 16: even eligible for it at the end of it, so

544
00:25:38,733 --> 00:25:41,493
Speaker 16: you've still got the same problem. But I do think

545
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Speaker 16: that if somebody's got on their record that they've been

546
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Speaker 16: cleaned for you know, seven years, or more regardless of

547
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Speaker 16: whether they've got clean slate that and of itself. So

548
00:25:52,773 --> 00:25:55,213
Speaker 16: you know, a lot of fortitude to get through it,

549
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Speaker 16: and if you've got the skills then you can do

550
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Speaker 16: the job. Then you know, can people to be allowed

551
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Speaker 16: to do it?

552
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Speaker 2: Have people given you a chance?

553
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Speaker 16: Jane, I was lucky, well not lucky, like I worked hard.

554
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Speaker 16: I just started to do a master's degree. I did

555
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Speaker 16: the master's degree. I actually got interns to a government

556
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Speaker 16: department which didn't allow criminals to work in the department,

557
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Speaker 16: but they created a special project for me that made

558
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Speaker 16: it okay. And and then because I had it on

559
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Speaker 16: my CV, it kind of like looked good, and yeah,

560
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Speaker 16: I was able to maintain my career after that. But

561
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Speaker 16: you know, if I decided to change jobs, I know

562
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Speaker 16: that I'm in some ways right back where I started.

563
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Speaker 16: I just got to keep going. I got to keep going.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, good on your mate.

565
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Speaker 9: In my case, is actually a bug on the criminal record,

566
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Speaker 9: like I'm actually supposed to be eligible for it, But

567
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Speaker 9: I have absolutely no idea how to get one of

568
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Speaker 9: the charges corrected.

569
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Speaker 16: I've kind of just learned a little bit.

570
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Speaker 2: So are you what you mean? I mean, there was

571
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Speaker 2: a bug in that when that is listed, it's.

572
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Speaker 6: Entered it incorrectly. Yeah.

573
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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, and you can and there's no no recourse

574
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Speaker 2: on that. You can't go to someone to get it,

575
00:27:07,853 --> 00:27:08,293
Speaker 2: get a chat.

576
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Speaker 6: I tried hiring a lawyer.

577
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Speaker 16: It's she was really committed to the idea of it,

578
00:27:14,813 --> 00:27:17,493
Speaker 16: but like she was, you know, district court hacked, so

579
00:27:18,093 --> 00:27:19,373
Speaker 16: she didn't really have times.

580
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Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, you think you could just get someone to

581
00:27:23,853 --> 00:27:26,493
Speaker 2: go back and look at the case and then compare them.

582
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Speaker 16: And then I don't think any Yeah, I don't think

583
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Speaker 16: that there's any any process for that.

584
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Speaker 3: I thought, like generally, Jay, I think if you you know,

585
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Speaker 3: you've got to sign up to what is it that

586
00:27:38,573 --> 00:27:41,733
Speaker 3: government system that my my A, whatever it's called. But

587
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Speaker 3: I think that you can generally you asked for your

588
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure you've done this. You asked for what's

589
00:27:45,493 --> 00:27:49,533
Speaker 3: in your your conviction history, and then you go back

590
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Speaker 3: to them and say, hey, this is wrong, you need

591
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Speaker 3: to change this.

592
00:27:52,653 --> 00:27:52,853
Speaker 5: Yeah.

593
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Speaker 16: One of those is that one of one of my

594
00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:57,733
Speaker 16: charges was entered as two years prison, but.

595
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Speaker 6: I did not go to prison.

596
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Speaker 2: I see a big problem for that. But that's a

597
00:28:03,893 --> 00:28:08,173
Speaker 2: big problem for the twenty Slately legislation. Isn't it. Hey,

598
00:28:08,933 --> 00:28:11,613
Speaker 2: just when you say, just when you say, because just

599
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Speaker 2: going back to you said you said your your crimes

600
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Speaker 2: had no victim. What do you mean by that? What

601
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Speaker 2: crimes have no victim?

602
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Speaker 16: They were all drugs, but they were significant, like serious crimes,

603
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Speaker 16: But in my opinion, no victims.

604
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Speaker 2: So you were taking the drugs or you're selling the

605
00:28:25,053 --> 00:28:29,493
Speaker 2: drugs both, right, So I guess people would argue that

606
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Speaker 2: potentially the victims would be the people you seld the

607
00:28:31,813 --> 00:28:32,133
Speaker 2: drugs to.

608
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Speaker 16: Well, it depends if you educate them properly, then do

609
00:28:35,533 --> 00:28:36,853
Speaker 16: they can make their indecisions.

610
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Speaker 17: What I did was it cannabis, a whole lot of

611
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:45,013
Speaker 17: different things, right, right, Yeah, and I made sure that

612
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Speaker 17: every single person that got their hands on it knew

613
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Speaker 17: exactly what they were taking and allowed them to make

614
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Speaker 17: their innocisions.

615
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Speaker 2: Right. And how do you feel now? Do you feel

616
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Speaker 2: like a different person than the person that was committing

617
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Speaker 2: these crimes back in the day?

618
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Speaker 16: Absolutely? Yeah, absolutely, it's not even the same life. And

619
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Speaker 16: most most people wouldn't even know. But like I mean,

620
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Speaker 16: in the community, people can see this that I have

621
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Speaker 16: and that's to be honest, it's all it's all come

622
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Speaker 16: from that there are skills that you do pick up

623
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Speaker 16: from having to be that disciplined, because you know, if

624
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:19,293
Speaker 16: you've got if you've got to get through seven years

625
00:29:19,933 --> 00:29:23,453
Speaker 16: and no one's going to hire you unless you're really lucky,

626
00:29:24,293 --> 00:29:26,093
Speaker 16: most people will turn back to crime. And that's what

627
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Speaker 16: I say. When there's a bit of a flaw in

628
00:29:29,853 --> 00:29:32,493
Speaker 16: the clean sate, a like, it kind of just intendivises

629
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Speaker 16: you a little bit.

630
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

631
00:29:34,333 --> 00:29:36,053
Speaker 16: Again, if someone as a bad person, then they need

632
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Speaker 16: it to be you know.

633
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Speaker 2: Oh definitely.

634
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Speaker 3: I mean I think if someone sue's prison time and

635
00:29:39,533 --> 00:29:42,133
Speaker 3: you didn't do that, Jay, but that you know, they

636
00:29:42,213 --> 00:29:44,533
Speaker 3: need to face the consequences of their actions. But that

637
00:29:44,613 --> 00:29:47,773
Speaker 3: hence that's why they serve time for prison and pay

638
00:29:47,813 --> 00:29:50,333
Speaker 3: for that time. But for you, mate, when someone took

639
00:29:50,373 --> 00:29:53,173
Speaker 3: a took a punt on you, clearly you sound like

640
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Speaker 3: one of the one of the guys that say, I'm

641
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Speaker 3: not going to let you down here. You've given me

642
00:29:56,373 --> 00:29:58,373
Speaker 3: a chance, and I'm going to prove to you that

643
00:29:58,533 --> 00:30:00,173
Speaker 3: I'm going to be the best work you've ever had.

644
00:30:00,293 --> 00:30:02,333
Speaker 3: Was that the mentality when someone gave you gave you

645
00:30:02,373 --> 00:30:02,773
Speaker 3: a chance?

646
00:30:04,173 --> 00:30:04,413
Speaker 10: Yeah.

647
00:30:04,453 --> 00:30:07,013
Speaker 16: Absolutely. I may or may not have cried during my interview,

648
00:30:07,053 --> 00:30:08,333
Speaker 16: but it wasn't intense.

649
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Speaker 2: Well, good on you, Jay for turning your life around, mate,

650
00:30:13,413 --> 00:30:15,573
Speaker 2: and thank you so much for bringing and ensuring your story.

651
00:30:15,573 --> 00:30:16,693
Speaker 2: I really really appreciate it.

652
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Speaker 3: That is Jay, And can you get your thoughts on

653
00:30:20,413 --> 00:30:22,773
Speaker 3: what he had to say? Clearly he was pretty emotional

654
00:30:22,813 --> 00:30:24,893
Speaker 3: when someone gave him a shot, and he clearly turned

655
00:30:24,933 --> 00:30:27,493
Speaker 3: his life around. But if you've been in a similar position, Oh,

656
00:30:27,493 --> 00:30:29,693
Speaker 3: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number, it's seventeen

657
00:30:29,733 --> 00:30:29,973
Speaker 3: to two.

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Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on Talkback. It's Matt Heath and

659
00:30:34,173 --> 00:30:37,933
Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons. Have your say on eight hundred eighty

660
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Speaker 1: ten eighty us talk sab.

661
00:30:40,013 --> 00:30:42,893
Speaker 3: It is fourteen to two, and we are talking about

662
00:30:42,933 --> 00:30:45,573
Speaker 3: our Clean Slate Act? Does it need some changes at

663
00:30:45,573 --> 00:30:47,773
Speaker 3: the moment? If you serve a prison time that's not

664
00:30:47,813 --> 00:30:50,293
Speaker 3: eligible under the Clean Slate Act? And would you employ

665
00:30:50,333 --> 00:30:51,413
Speaker 3: someone with a criminal history?

666
00:30:51,973 --> 00:30:53,933
Speaker 2: Just to read Jay, a lot of text saying what

667
00:30:53,973 --> 00:30:56,013
Speaker 2: a good man Jay is and I'm glad he's turned

668
00:30:56,013 --> 00:30:58,293
Speaker 2: his life around. But a few people pushing back on

669
00:30:58,333 --> 00:31:03,373
Speaker 2: his assertion that his crimes for victimists victim lists the

670
00:31:03,413 --> 00:31:06,173
Speaker 2: success to say that a drug addict makes their own decisions.

671
00:31:06,213 --> 00:31:08,653
Speaker 2: Would be debatable when you're selling drugs to them at

672
00:31:08,693 --> 00:31:11,853
Speaker 2: what and what happens to their onboard? Maybe if they're pregnant,

673
00:31:12,133 --> 00:31:14,893
Speaker 2: you know, but we don't know that Jay was selling

674
00:31:14,973 --> 00:31:18,493
Speaker 2: drugs to people with that were pregnant. No, and we

675
00:31:18,533 --> 00:31:20,853
Speaker 2: don't know what to drugs he was selling exactly. But

676
00:31:20,853 --> 00:31:23,813
Speaker 2: but you know, some drugs, like say party drugs like

677
00:31:24,053 --> 00:31:27,333
Speaker 2: MDMA for example, ecstasy, if you're selling that, is there

678
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:29,733
Speaker 2: anyone that's buying those that don't know what they're getting?

679
00:31:30,053 --> 00:31:30,293
Speaker 10: Yeah?

680
00:31:30,333 --> 00:31:31,853
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they sometimes don't know they're getting when

681
00:31:31,853 --> 00:31:33,933
Speaker 2: you've got an unscrupulous drug dealer that sells something with

682
00:31:33,973 --> 00:31:37,133
Speaker 2: a bunch of other rubbish in it and and potential

683
00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:39,733
Speaker 2: to kill people. Terrible people drug dealers.

684
00:31:39,973 --> 00:31:42,653
Speaker 3: But but yeah, on the scale of that, you've got

685
00:31:42,693 --> 00:31:44,853
Speaker 3: to be honest here. Jay said that he made you know,

686
00:31:45,293 --> 00:31:47,773
Speaker 3: he made it a big thing that what he was

687
00:31:48,133 --> 00:31:51,173
Speaker 3: delivering to his clients so to speak, was clean and

688
00:31:51,213 --> 00:31:53,973
Speaker 3: it wasn't gonna, you know, do something that they weren't expecting.

689
00:31:54,013 --> 00:31:56,813
Speaker 2: If you've seen the Wolf of Wall Street with the

690
00:31:56,853 --> 00:32:01,093
Speaker 2: stock traders that were buying cocaine on that were the

691
00:32:01,093 --> 00:32:03,213
Speaker 2: innocent parties.

692
00:32:03,053 --> 00:32:08,093
Speaker 3: Hugo, how are you nice to chat with you. So

693
00:32:08,813 --> 00:32:12,333
Speaker 3: you yeah, okay mate. So you you also someone who

694
00:32:12,653 --> 00:32:14,893
Speaker 3: had a conviction in your past and someone gave you

695
00:32:15,173 --> 00:32:15,653
Speaker 3: a chance.

696
00:32:17,013 --> 00:32:21,773
Speaker 4: Yeah, mate, and and it changed my life and I'm

697
00:32:21,853 --> 00:32:28,133
Speaker 4: now yeah, yeah, thanks to that person. But this was

698
00:32:28,253 --> 00:32:35,733
Speaker 4: this was year nineteen ninety four that ended. And back

699
00:32:35,773 --> 00:32:37,933
Speaker 4: then they gave me a chance, they gave me an opportunity,

700
00:32:37,973 --> 00:32:44,133
Speaker 4: and that's just yeah, it's something that I will always

701
00:32:44,253 --> 00:32:48,133
Speaker 4: go back to society. And it's important to never give

702
00:32:48,213 --> 00:32:53,893
Speaker 4: up hope, you know, just keep a positive Yeah look, yeah,

703
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:57,053
Speaker 4: you've seen it go wrong many times, but you know,

704
00:32:57,093 --> 00:32:59,933
Speaker 4: what can you do but be positive, keep it positive

705
00:33:00,173 --> 00:33:02,373
Speaker 4: and just always have hope.

706
00:33:02,893 --> 00:33:03,093
Speaker 5: You know.

707
00:33:03,773 --> 00:33:06,053
Speaker 2: So you've done time? Had you you go?

708
00:33:08,493 --> 00:33:12,253
Speaker 4: Was it was a crazy life growing up with the

709
00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:16,613
Speaker 4: you know, state ward kid living on the streets. I

710
00:33:16,693 --> 00:33:23,693
Speaker 4: was in foster homes and and yeah, the the the system,

711
00:33:23,773 --> 00:33:27,213
Speaker 4: you know, and I ended up living on the streets.

712
00:33:27,733 --> 00:33:31,893
Speaker 4: I was a street for about four years.

713
00:33:30,693 --> 00:33:30,893
Speaker 7: Ah.

714
00:33:32,813 --> 00:33:37,733
Speaker 4: I remember bumming enough money for for a newspaper so

715
00:33:37,773 --> 00:33:40,813
Speaker 4: that I could get a get a ring, enough money

716
00:33:40,853 --> 00:33:43,013
Speaker 4: for a phone call in the old phone to bring

717
00:33:43,013 --> 00:33:49,893
Speaker 4: a job interview for for situations vacant you know, Wow,

718
00:33:50,373 --> 00:33:53,413
Speaker 4: and and yeah it was just yeah, it was just

719
00:33:53,453 --> 00:33:54,933
Speaker 4: another a.

720
00:33:55,013 --> 00:33:55,853
Speaker 2: Job you got, was it?

721
00:33:56,893 --> 00:33:57,333
Speaker 5: That was it?

722
00:33:57,413 --> 00:34:02,453
Speaker 4: And yeah, yea, yeah, I'll do jownry on a jowinery.

723
00:34:03,333 --> 00:34:05,973
Speaker 4: I've been doing joinery now for CV two years. Eventually

724
00:34:06,013 --> 00:34:12,292
Speaker 4: I ended up with the print should But yeah, it was.

725
00:34:12,373 --> 00:34:15,293
Speaker 4: It was a hard case because here I was for

726
00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:17,253
Speaker 4: the first two weeks living in the bus shelters and

727
00:34:17,293 --> 00:34:19,613
Speaker 4: in the park around from work, just close to work

728
00:34:19,973 --> 00:34:24,173
Speaker 4: so I could get there the next morning, you know,

729
00:34:25,573 --> 00:34:29,573
Speaker 4: uh to to getting enough money for a bond on

730
00:34:29,613 --> 00:34:29,973
Speaker 4: a flat.

731
00:34:30,453 --> 00:34:30,692
Speaker 10: Wow.

732
00:34:30,853 --> 00:34:35,853
Speaker 4: And and then you're getting to make the bead just

733
00:34:35,853 --> 00:34:39,133
Speaker 4: just and and make the coffee table, you get rid

734
00:34:39,173 --> 00:34:43,773
Speaker 4: of the beer crates. Yeah it was. It was a

735
00:34:43,813 --> 00:34:46,652
Speaker 4: hard case, but it was thanks to that.

736
00:34:47,533 --> 00:34:50,373
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well but but also thanks you to you, Hugo.

737
00:34:50,413 --> 00:34:54,133
Speaker 2: There must be something special in you that you you know,

738
00:34:54,333 --> 00:34:56,573
Speaker 2: you got the money to get the paper to make

739
00:34:56,893 --> 00:34:58,813
Speaker 2: the call if if you know what I mean that

740
00:34:58,813 --> 00:35:02,053
Speaker 2: that you had it in your mind to to sort

741
00:35:02,053 --> 00:35:04,933
Speaker 2: your proper problem out and and you know try that.

742
00:35:05,013 --> 00:35:08,453
Speaker 2: I mean that that's that is something for for a

743
00:35:08,453 --> 00:35:11,053
Speaker 2: street had to do. You know, you should be you

744
00:35:11,053 --> 00:35:12,933
Speaker 2: should be proud of that move. You should you should

745
00:35:12,933 --> 00:35:14,813
Speaker 2: be proud of that, that that you did, that that

746
00:35:14,853 --> 00:35:17,853
Speaker 2: you took that effort and you know that that's that's

747
00:35:18,013 --> 00:35:20,613
Speaker 2: I find that quite quite touching and quite impressive for you.

748
00:35:20,653 --> 00:35:21,453
Speaker 2: Go so good on you.

749
00:35:22,613 --> 00:35:25,613
Speaker 4: I appreciate you met. No, it was it was a

750
00:35:25,653 --> 00:35:32,133
Speaker 4: hard case that you never never once had the boss

751
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:34,933
Speaker 4: given me that you know, they judgment the.

752
00:35:35,053 --> 00:35:39,413
Speaker 2: Cool or don't know, yeah, you're a good man. Here

753
00:35:39,573 --> 00:35:40,493
Speaker 2: was it?

754
00:35:40,493 --> 00:35:43,093
Speaker 3: It was it pretty hard for you to ask for help.

755
00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:44,973
Speaker 3: And I mean it wasn't asking for help necessarily. It

756
00:35:45,053 --> 00:35:47,133
Speaker 3: was saying, give me a shot and give me an

757
00:35:47,173 --> 00:35:50,013
Speaker 3: opportunity here. But I imagine for you, Matte, you had

758
00:35:50,013 --> 00:35:53,373
Speaker 3: a whole life of of having to survive on your own.

759
00:35:53,693 --> 00:35:55,853
Speaker 3: And when you get into that situation, whether our people

760
00:35:56,013 --> 00:35:58,373
Speaker 3: can help you, is that difficult to ask for it

761
00:35:58,413 --> 00:35:59,133
Speaker 3: at that stage.

762
00:36:01,013 --> 00:36:04,133
Speaker 4: At that stage, we had the old street dans that

763
00:36:04,253 --> 00:36:06,613
Speaker 4: came and drop around food the middle of the night

764
00:36:06,653 --> 00:36:09,493
Speaker 4: and squeeze. You know, this is all down and cross huge.

765
00:36:10,973 --> 00:36:13,813
Speaker 4: We had the fountains down before the earthquakes. We had

766
00:36:13,853 --> 00:36:17,973
Speaker 4: the fountains down Triangle Center. We can wash your face,

767
00:36:18,173 --> 00:36:20,933
Speaker 4: have a you know, you go down to Valentine's, get

768
00:36:20,973 --> 00:36:23,053
Speaker 4: on the testers, put some.

769
00:36:23,013 --> 00:36:24,653
Speaker 5: Clothes on, you know.

770
00:36:25,053 --> 00:36:28,813
Speaker 4: Yeah, you learn, you learn how to survive, you know.

771
00:36:30,133 --> 00:36:34,053
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, I have eaten something out of a

772
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:37,212
Speaker 4: rubbish and it's not something I'm proud of, but it's

773
00:36:37,253 --> 00:36:38,333
Speaker 4: something I'm proud of now.

774
00:36:38,933 --> 00:36:40,093
Speaker 1: Yeah.

775
00:36:40,293 --> 00:36:43,652
Speaker 2: So I wonder if I wonder if that you got.

776
00:36:43,093 --> 00:36:46,373
Speaker 4: A positive you know, keeping it positive. Like so, we're

777
00:36:46,413 --> 00:36:51,133
Speaker 4: sorry to interrupt you. The it's so important to keep

778
00:36:51,133 --> 00:36:54,973
Speaker 4: it positive and always have hope because I know there's

779
00:36:54,973 --> 00:36:57,853
Speaker 4: some people where they can't help, but there are people,

780
00:36:57,933 --> 00:37:00,653
Speaker 4: and give them a job. Then give give someone a chance,

781
00:37:00,853 --> 00:37:03,732
Speaker 4: just give someone, give someone a league.

782
00:37:03,813 --> 00:37:03,933
Speaker 5: Up.

783
00:37:04,773 --> 00:37:07,053
Speaker 2: Hey, we've just got to go an we've just got

784
00:37:07,093 --> 00:37:08,893
Speaker 2: to go to an air break. Can you hold on

785
00:37:08,933 --> 00:37:10,772
Speaker 2: the line because we've just got another couple of questions.

786
00:37:10,813 --> 00:37:12,172
Speaker 2: We'd like to hear a bit more from you after

787
00:37:12,493 --> 00:37:16,493
Speaker 2: the air break, but thank you, you're a good man.

788
00:37:16,493 --> 00:37:18,172
Speaker 2: Will come back very shortly. It's eight to two.

789
00:37:19,493 --> 00:37:23,933
Speaker 1: Matd heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred eighty.

790
00:37:24,013 --> 00:37:27,173
Speaker 1: It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

791
00:37:29,053 --> 00:37:31,693
Speaker 2: It is five to two. Hey, thanks so much for

792
00:37:31,933 --> 00:37:34,493
Speaker 2: hanging on, HUGO and look so many people are texting

793
00:37:34,533 --> 00:37:37,613
Speaker 2: through you know, support for your for your story. I

794
00:37:37,653 --> 00:37:39,493
Speaker 2: just want to ask you a final question. Do you

795
00:37:39,533 --> 00:37:41,652
Speaker 2: find that having been on the streets and taking the

796
00:37:41,773 --> 00:37:43,773
Speaker 2: chance and making the call and getting the job and

797
00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:46,573
Speaker 2: building the life that you have, that you appreciate what

798
00:37:46,613 --> 00:37:48,173
Speaker 2: you have more than others?

799
00:37:48,213 --> 00:37:54,453
Speaker 4: Do you asked the right questions met? And I can

800
00:37:54,493 --> 00:37:57,813
Speaker 4: see where you do what you do, because yeah, that's

801
00:37:57,853 --> 00:38:05,732
Speaker 4: exactly how it feels in Yeah, let's see. I guess

802
00:38:05,853 --> 00:38:10,973
Speaker 4: anybody who's experienced you kind of compare moments where it

803
00:38:11,013 --> 00:38:12,893
Speaker 4: does get tough and you think, well, it's not that

804
00:38:13,013 --> 00:38:19,333
Speaker 4: bad really compared to But we used to you know, yeah,

805
00:38:19,453 --> 00:38:21,933
Speaker 4: we used to put the blankets over top of the

806
00:38:22,013 --> 00:38:24,493
Speaker 4: lights around the cathedral that used to be you know,

807
00:38:24,573 --> 00:38:26,333
Speaker 4: they ude to light the cathedral up at night because

808
00:38:26,333 --> 00:38:29,973
Speaker 4: they were perfect. They were a perfect angle to sleep on.

809
00:38:30,413 --> 00:38:32,692
Speaker 4: But they were so bright and so hard out that

810
00:38:32,853 --> 00:38:35,093
Speaker 4: you had to put a blanket over the top of

811
00:38:35,133 --> 00:38:37,893
Speaker 4: the glass to take the tinge off. Otherwise you you know,

812
00:38:37,933 --> 00:38:43,333
Speaker 4: you've burnt. So yeah, I guess just those things run

813
00:38:43,373 --> 00:38:44,493
Speaker 4: through your head and when you're.

814
00:38:44,333 --> 00:38:47,413
Speaker 2: Going, well, thank you so much for your cool HUGO.

815
00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:49,652
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it, man, And you're you're a great

816
00:38:49,653 --> 00:38:51,493
Speaker 2: New Zealander and all the best to you.

817
00:38:51,573 --> 00:38:56,172
Speaker 3: Absolutely fantastic calls that hour. Really enjoyed that discussion. Thank

818
00:38:56,173 --> 00:38:58,013
Speaker 3: you so much to Hugo and the others who called

819
00:38:58,053 --> 00:39:00,333
Speaker 3: through it right coming up after two o'clock, let's have

820
00:39:00,333 --> 00:39:01,333
Speaker 3: a chat about the lot of wind.

821
00:39:01,373 --> 00:39:02,933
Speaker 2: Do you beg yourself to spend it wisely?

822
00:39:05,093 --> 00:39:09,733
Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heathen Adams Afternoons

823
00:39:10,133 --> 00:39:10,733
Speaker 1: news talks.

824
00:39:10,773 --> 00:39:14,893
Speaker 3: It'd be very good afternoon cheer, welcome back into the show.

825
00:39:14,973 --> 00:39:16,413
Speaker 2: It is sex Pass too.

826
00:39:16,693 --> 00:39:19,733
Speaker 3: It's so good dev your company on this Friday afternoon.

827
00:39:20,373 --> 00:39:22,013
Speaker 2: So right, this is going to be a great chat.

828
00:39:22,053 --> 00:39:25,692
Speaker 3: We all, of course stream of winning lotto, particularly when

829
00:39:25,693 --> 00:39:28,493
Speaker 3: it hits fifty five million bucks. That is the highest

830
00:39:28,573 --> 00:39:30,652
Speaker 3: check pot we've ever had in this country. It's a

831
00:39:30,733 --> 00:39:33,493
Speaker 3: must win on Saturday night. But we often hear about

832
00:39:33,493 --> 00:39:35,773
Speaker 3: these bad stories where it can become a bit of

833
00:39:35,813 --> 00:39:38,013
Speaker 3: a curse. But I think most of us back ourselves

834
00:39:38,213 --> 00:39:39,613
Speaker 3: to do the right thing if we win that sort

835
00:39:39,653 --> 00:39:40,053
Speaker 3: of money.

836
00:39:40,093 --> 00:39:43,973
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean every time a big draw comes up,

837
00:39:44,013 --> 00:39:45,333
Speaker 2: and as you say, this is the biggest one ever,

838
00:39:45,493 --> 00:39:47,533
Speaker 2: someone pops up with an article saying that it's all

839
00:39:47,533 --> 00:39:49,893
Speaker 2: going to turn to crap and it'll make your life worse.

840
00:39:50,373 --> 00:39:52,093
Speaker 2: But it's hard to believe that, isn't it. Yeah, it's

841
00:39:52,133 --> 00:39:54,613
Speaker 2: hard to believe that if fifty five million dollars suddenly

842
00:39:54,613 --> 00:39:56,573
Speaker 2: went in at my bank account, my life would be worse.

843
00:39:57,733 --> 00:40:01,093
Speaker 2: But it does seem, it does seem to happen. And look,

844
00:40:01,133 --> 00:40:04,253
Speaker 2: I was thinking before that there's so many listeners of

845
00:40:04,373 --> 00:40:06,853
Speaker 2: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons on news talks. It'd

846
00:40:06,893 --> 00:40:08,333
Speaker 2: be that there's a good chance at the person that's

847
00:40:08,493 --> 00:40:10,573
Speaker 2: to win fifty five million dollars this weekend is listening

848
00:40:10,653 --> 00:40:14,253
Speaker 2: right now. So if you do have advice for that person,

849
00:40:14,333 --> 00:40:16,133
Speaker 2: because you will have thought about it. You would have

850
00:40:16,173 --> 00:40:20,133
Speaker 2: thought when you've heard that the money that people get

851
00:40:20,893 --> 00:40:25,213
Speaker 2: causes financial and spiritual pains in their life. Often, relationships

852
00:40:25,253 --> 00:40:29,133
Speaker 2: break up, your family and friends begin to resent you

853
00:40:30,053 --> 00:40:32,692
Speaker 2: when you don't pay for everything. There's all these kind

854
00:40:32,693 --> 00:40:35,333
Speaker 2: of problems. And also the biggest spiritual problem that comes

855
00:40:35,373 --> 00:40:40,493
Speaker 2: through is that you everything you know, you don't have

856
00:40:40,533 --> 00:40:42,573
Speaker 2: anything else to blame anymore. You don't have your job

857
00:40:42,613 --> 00:40:45,173
Speaker 2: to blame anymore, you don't have your life to blame anymore.

858
00:40:45,213 --> 00:40:48,053
Speaker 2: For why you're unhappy and you can do anything you

859
00:40:48,093 --> 00:40:50,732
Speaker 2: want in the world. You can have twenty you can

860
00:40:50,813 --> 00:40:53,533
Speaker 2: ski in the Swiss Alps for the entire year if

861
00:40:53,573 --> 00:40:55,413
Speaker 2: you want. It's a good point that is going to

862
00:40:55,413 --> 00:40:58,093
Speaker 2: showcase your failings. But when that happens, you find that

863
00:40:58,133 --> 00:41:00,653
Speaker 2: it's not quite as fun when you can do whatever

864
00:41:00,693 --> 00:41:04,053
Speaker 2: you want. It's like if you get you know, if

865
00:41:04,053 --> 00:41:06,693
Speaker 2: you're in hospital and you can suddenly have you suddenly

866
00:41:06,693 --> 00:41:07,973
Speaker 2: have all the time in the world to watch all

867
00:41:07,973 --> 00:41:10,173
Speaker 2: those flick shows that you hadn't got around to watching,

868
00:41:10,493 --> 00:41:14,573
Speaker 2: and suddenly they're not as exciting because you have unlimited time.

869
00:41:15,293 --> 00:41:17,653
Speaker 2: It's so true. And it's the same with video games.

870
00:41:17,933 --> 00:41:19,573
Speaker 2: You know, they're not quite as exciting when you have

871
00:41:19,733 --> 00:41:20,773
Speaker 2: all the time in the world to do it. And

872
00:41:20,813 --> 00:41:24,373
Speaker 2: I think that happens to people that win huge amounts

873
00:41:24,413 --> 00:41:26,653
Speaker 2: of money. And also there's a thing with it because

874
00:41:26,693 --> 00:41:29,613
Speaker 2: you haven't earned it, so you don't have any pride.

875
00:41:29,693 --> 00:41:32,173
Speaker 2: I built this thing, and these are the rewards for

876
00:41:32,213 --> 00:41:35,893
Speaker 2: building it. So it does cause a spiritual problem for people.

877
00:41:35,933 --> 00:41:38,893
Speaker 2: But equally, I think most of us here will we

878
00:41:38,933 --> 00:41:40,933
Speaker 2: have in trouble and have any sympathy for people that

879
00:41:42,093 --> 00:41:43,333
Speaker 2: win a lot of money and don't know what to

880
00:41:43,373 --> 00:41:45,773
Speaker 2: do about it, but maybe we can help them. So,

881
00:41:45,853 --> 00:41:48,692
Speaker 2: as I say, the person might be listening. So you've

882
00:41:48,733 --> 00:41:51,013
Speaker 2: probably got a plan. So how would you deal with

883
00:41:51,053 --> 00:41:53,813
Speaker 2: winning the money? What would you do? You know, what's

884
00:41:53,893 --> 00:41:56,133
Speaker 2: your plan to make it sure it doesn't make you

885
00:41:56,173 --> 00:41:59,253
Speaker 2: go insane? Should you win? How would you deal with

886
00:41:59,253 --> 00:42:02,333
Speaker 2: it financially and spiritually? If you won the fifty five

887
00:42:02,373 --> 00:42:05,573
Speaker 2: million dollars this weekend, because I guarantee nearly everyone listening's

888
00:42:05,573 --> 00:42:06,093
Speaker 2: board a ticket.

889
00:42:06,213 --> 00:42:08,773
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've all thought about winning that sort of money. Absolutely,

890
00:42:08,813 --> 00:42:09,533
Speaker 3: I've got my ticket.

891
00:42:09,533 --> 00:42:09,973
Speaker 5: You've got your.

892
00:42:09,933 --> 00:42:13,373
Speaker 3: Ticket, mat yep, yep, yeap. Have you thought about your strategy?

893
00:42:13,413 --> 00:42:15,692
Speaker 3: You don't have say it now, but surely you've got

894
00:42:15,693 --> 00:42:17,773
Speaker 3: a strategy in your mind because you beat yourself there.

895
00:42:17,853 --> 00:42:20,253
Speaker 3: If you had that sort of money, then you know

896
00:42:20,293 --> 00:42:21,652
Speaker 3: that's going to sit you up for life, and it's

897
00:42:21,693 --> 00:42:23,652
Speaker 3: not going to have any impact on your happiness. In fact,

898
00:42:23,693 --> 00:42:24,933
Speaker 3: it would increase your happiness.

899
00:42:25,013 --> 00:42:26,453
Speaker 2: I'd blow it all on hats. Yep.

900
00:42:28,053 --> 00:42:30,373
Speaker 3: That would make you happy, though, wouldn't it. I had

901
00:42:30,413 --> 00:42:31,973
Speaker 3: some watches and you'll be a happy boy.

902
00:42:33,573 --> 00:42:36,533
Speaker 2: Oh eight hundred. I'd buy a lot of watches. Yeah, No,

903
00:42:36,573 --> 00:42:38,253
Speaker 2: I do actually be a p I have actually a

904
00:42:38,293 --> 00:42:41,053
Speaker 2: plan for it spiritually, what I would do if I

905
00:42:41,093 --> 00:42:44,652
Speaker 2: won that money to keep me sane and keep me

906
00:42:44,693 --> 00:42:47,733
Speaker 2: proud of myself and keep me feeling like I was

907
00:42:47,773 --> 00:42:49,253
Speaker 2: making a difference than wold I'd ever planned. But I'm

908
00:42:49,253 --> 00:42:50,573
Speaker 2: not going to share that just yet. Oh one hundred

909
00:42:50,573 --> 00:42:53,173
Speaker 2: and eighteen eighty. We want to hear other people's plans.

910
00:42:53,293 --> 00:42:55,652
Speaker 3: Yep, come on through nine two ninety two is that

911
00:42:55,733 --> 00:42:58,813
Speaker 3: text number as well? If you win the fifty five

912
00:42:58,853 --> 00:43:01,692
Speaker 3: million dollars, watch your plan to being seavy with that

913
00:43:01,813 --> 00:43:04,853
Speaker 3: kind of windfall. It is ten past two, beg for you.

914
00:43:04,893 --> 00:43:06,573
Speaker 3: Surely you're listening to Matt and Tyler.

915
00:43:08,453 --> 00:43:11,853
Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon talk mad Heath and Taylor Adams

916
00:43:11,893 --> 00:43:15,373
Speaker 1: afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talk.

917
00:43:15,493 --> 00:43:15,893
Speaker 5: That'd be.

918
00:43:18,213 --> 00:43:18,973
Speaker 2: Very good afternoons.

919
00:43:18,973 --> 00:43:21,093
Speaker 3: You at thirteen past two, So we are talking about

920
00:43:21,093 --> 00:43:24,453
Speaker 3: the lotto jackpot, the Saturday fifty five million dollars must

921
00:43:24,493 --> 00:43:26,893
Speaker 3: be one. Have you got a plan for what you

922
00:43:27,013 --> 00:43:29,733
Speaker 3: do if you're the lucky recipient of fifty five million dollars?

923
00:43:29,893 --> 00:43:32,213
Speaker 2: Yeah? And have you got a plan for the person

924
00:43:32,213 --> 00:43:32,813
Speaker 2: that will win it?

925
00:43:32,853 --> 00:43:32,973
Speaker 10: Well?

926
00:43:33,013 --> 00:43:34,493
Speaker 2: It might be you, Edward, Have you got a ticket?

927
00:43:36,213 --> 00:43:36,373
Speaker 10: Yes?

928
00:43:36,453 --> 00:43:38,333
Speaker 2: And d And do you have a plan?

929
00:43:39,693 --> 00:43:43,453
Speaker 8: Well, you know, I do. I think if you're win

930
00:43:43,533 --> 00:43:46,493
Speaker 8: that sort of money, of course you're gonna blow up.

931
00:43:46,493 --> 00:43:50,732
Speaker 8: But at first songs on some luxuries. But you'll work

932
00:43:50,733 --> 00:43:53,293
Speaker 8: out how much can you afford to blow and how

933
00:43:53,373 --> 00:43:56,213
Speaker 8: much should you invest to be able to live a

934
00:43:56,213 --> 00:43:58,973
Speaker 8: comfortable life for the rest of your life. And I mean,

935
00:43:59,413 --> 00:44:03,013
Speaker 8: I'm no investment guys, so i'd give professional advice about

936
00:44:03,013 --> 00:44:06,133
Speaker 8: that first, so you could live off some interest and

937
00:44:06,373 --> 00:44:09,853
Speaker 8: on your payback from your investments. But definitely, yes, i'd

938
00:44:09,853 --> 00:44:14,213
Speaker 8: blow someone on luxuries. I'd probably pay off for the

939
00:44:14,293 --> 00:44:15,813
Speaker 8: mortgages for my brothers and sisters.

940
00:44:17,733 --> 00:44:20,493
Speaker 2: Would you tell them where that money was coming from?

941
00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:22,652
Speaker 2: Because a lot of the problems seem to come from

942
00:44:22,733 --> 00:44:24,692
Speaker 2: telling people that you've won the money, who then tell

943
00:44:24,693 --> 00:44:27,133
Speaker 2: other people that tell other people, and everyone set their handout,

944
00:44:27,133 --> 00:44:30,293
Speaker 2: and suddenly everyone's either treating you differently or resenting you

945
00:44:30,333 --> 00:44:32,813
Speaker 2: for not helping them with their problems. So have you

946
00:44:32,813 --> 00:44:36,173
Speaker 2: got a plan where you could help them such that

947
00:44:36,293 --> 00:44:38,373
Speaker 2: they think that you've hurt the money? I don't know.

948
00:44:39,413 --> 00:44:41,773
Speaker 8: Well, I wouldn't publicize how much one start off with,

949
00:44:42,293 --> 00:44:44,373
Speaker 8: i'd probably pause for a couple of months, to be honest,

950
00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:49,853
Speaker 8: but whilst still blowing someone luxuries for myself of course, yep,

951
00:44:51,093 --> 00:44:53,172
Speaker 8: i'd probably get some sort of legal agreement with them

952
00:44:53,173 --> 00:44:57,813
Speaker 8: that they didn't actually discuss. Yeah, and I know that

953
00:44:57,813 --> 00:44:59,692
Speaker 8: sounds a bit rough as your family, but you're right,

954
00:45:00,573 --> 00:45:02,133
Speaker 8: blue slips and ships and all that sort of.

955
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:05,093
Speaker 3: Stuffy starts to get complicated though, doesn't it your work?

956
00:45:05,093 --> 00:45:07,893
Speaker 3: Because I've thought about this and obviously idearly love to

957
00:45:07,933 --> 00:45:11,133
Speaker 3: give my immediate family members enough that they're sorted out

958
00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:12,652
Speaker 3: for life. But then I think about my partner and

959
00:45:12,653 --> 00:45:14,692
Speaker 3: her family. She's got a lot of family members, so

960
00:45:14,733 --> 00:45:16,652
Speaker 3: then we've got to all sort them out. And then

961
00:45:16,773 --> 00:45:18,533
Speaker 3: you know, I want about the cousins, and the cousins

962
00:45:18,533 --> 00:45:19,333
Speaker 3: need a little bit as well.

963
00:45:19,373 --> 00:45:21,813
Speaker 2: But I think it's great that Edward. That's that's you

964
00:45:21,853 --> 00:45:24,093
Speaker 2: say a few luxuries, you say finance, and then that

965
00:45:24,213 --> 00:45:26,533
Speaker 2: then your mind immediately goes to helping other people. So

966
00:45:26,613 --> 00:45:28,172
Speaker 2: that's just me. You're a good person, Edward.

967
00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:34,133
Speaker 8: Well hopefully i'll tell you what Oh my thank god, hugo,

968
00:45:34,813 --> 00:45:38,652
Speaker 8: what an amazing human. Yeah, yeah, sorry, there's a change

969
00:45:38,653 --> 00:45:40,213
Speaker 8: of subject. But oh my god.

970
00:45:40,653 --> 00:45:42,493
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what Edward, when we were talking to

971
00:45:43,013 --> 00:45:45,013
Speaker 2: Hugo and he was talking about how much he if

972
00:45:45,013 --> 00:45:48,093
Speaker 2: you went listening before, Hugo had been a street kid

973
00:45:48,133 --> 00:45:50,733
Speaker 2: and he'd got enough money together. He'd begged enough money

974
00:45:50,733 --> 00:45:53,573
Speaker 2: to get buy a newspaper and make a phone call

975
00:45:53,733 --> 00:45:57,812
Speaker 2: to apply for a job. Yeah, and so it seems

976
00:45:57,853 --> 00:45:59,613
Speaker 2: it seems so vacuous for our next topic, what have

977
00:45:59,693 --> 00:46:02,973
Speaker 2: you win? Fifty five million dollars? It was It was

978
00:46:03,013 --> 00:46:05,252
Speaker 2: a bit of a bit of a gear change there.

979
00:46:05,893 --> 00:46:09,493
Speaker 4: But I think I.

980
00:46:11,253 --> 00:46:14,013
Speaker 8: Read those articles yesterday in the paper about people that

981
00:46:14,053 --> 00:46:16,053
Speaker 8: had failed that had won lots of money. I mean

982
00:46:16,133 --> 00:46:18,093
Speaker 8: one wasn't Ozzie that got a Loto in New Zealand.

983
00:46:18,133 --> 00:46:19,853
Speaker 8: The other was in the UK and one the state.

984
00:46:20,013 --> 00:46:21,373
Speaker 8: Where's the New Zealand examples?

985
00:46:22,013 --> 00:46:25,573
Speaker 2: I mean the different there was trev wasn't there? He

986
00:46:25,613 --> 00:46:27,693
Speaker 2: remember Trev I think it was Trevor who won the

987
00:46:27,693 --> 00:46:29,933
Speaker 2: twenty eight million dollars a while back, and I think

988
00:46:29,973 --> 00:46:31,453
Speaker 2: he worked at a supermarket and he said he was

989
00:46:31,493 --> 00:46:33,053
Speaker 2: going to go to work the next day, then he didn't.

990
00:46:33,333 --> 00:46:36,053
Speaker 2: He was very public with winning winning it, and I

991
00:46:36,053 --> 00:46:38,573
Speaker 2: think he bought a few cars and maybe he got married,

992
00:46:38,573 --> 00:46:40,253
Speaker 2: and I think things went a bit south for Trevor Or.

993
00:46:40,453 --> 00:46:41,653
Speaker 2: I don't know the exact details.

994
00:46:41,733 --> 00:46:44,013
Speaker 8: He blew heaps on cars, went off to the States

995
00:46:44,053 --> 00:46:46,733
Speaker 8: and was going to race tracks and stuff like that.

996
00:46:46,973 --> 00:46:49,093
Speaker 3: He was yeah, and I think you know the relationship

997
00:46:49,133 --> 00:46:51,773
Speaker 3: that he formed after that when you know, broke up

998
00:46:51,853 --> 00:46:54,133
Speaker 3: and she took quite a bit but a lot of his.

999
00:46:54,133 --> 00:46:55,173
Speaker 2: Money, so to speak.

1000
00:46:55,253 --> 00:46:57,772
Speaker 3: So, yeah, poor old trev But that's, you know, being

1001
00:46:57,773 --> 00:47:00,533
Speaker 3: in that public with your winning. I think trev was

1002
00:47:00,573 --> 00:47:02,973
Speaker 3: the first and maybe last where you get in front

1003
00:47:02,973 --> 00:47:06,253
Speaker 3: of the newspaper and say, I'm so a million marks.

1004
00:47:05,973 --> 00:47:08,293
Speaker 2: That they had press waiting outside the supermarket that he

1005
00:47:08,453 --> 00:47:09,933
Speaker 2: work there the next morning for.

1006
00:47:10,253 --> 00:47:12,333
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was shocking, but he did bring it on

1007
00:47:12,413 --> 00:47:14,333
Speaker 8: himself kind yeah, yeah.

1008
00:47:14,213 --> 00:47:17,293
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so I think that that's rule number one.

1009
00:47:17,373 --> 00:47:20,013
Speaker 2: If you win the money is you don't do a

1010
00:47:20,493 --> 00:47:23,733
Speaker 2: you know, a celebration tour around the media.

1011
00:47:24,213 --> 00:47:26,493
Speaker 8: The problem is you wouldn't fifty five million dollars. You're

1012
00:47:26,493 --> 00:47:29,613
Speaker 8: just like, oh ho ho, and it's gonna be hard,

1013
00:47:29,613 --> 00:47:31,773
Speaker 8: but you've got to take a breath, suck it up,

1014
00:47:32,093 --> 00:47:33,933
Speaker 8: and just sit on for a while before you do anything.

1015
00:47:34,253 --> 00:47:35,812
Speaker 2: Would you keep working do you think you would?

1016
00:47:37,213 --> 00:47:41,293
Speaker 8: No, No, well actually no, Actually that's well, I wouldn't

1017
00:47:41,333 --> 00:47:43,333
Speaker 8: keep working in the same job of it now, to

1018
00:47:43,373 --> 00:47:46,133
Speaker 8: be honest, I'd probably look at moving into a business

1019
00:47:46,133 --> 00:47:49,653
Speaker 8: that will pay me and have other people work for me. Yeah,

1020
00:47:49,693 --> 00:47:52,173
Speaker 8: but that would be part of the whole getting professional advice,

1021
00:47:52,373 --> 00:47:54,453
Speaker 8: and I wouldn't just go to one person because I'd

1022
00:47:54,453 --> 00:48:00,732
Speaker 8: go to multiple what do you call them consultants? I guess, yeah,

1023
00:48:00,733 --> 00:48:02,533
Speaker 8: and just to get such a rough idea of what

1024
00:48:02,573 --> 00:48:07,333
Speaker 8: the best options are. But definitely I'd probably work on

1025
00:48:07,693 --> 00:48:09,133
Speaker 8: some business type stuff.

1026
00:48:09,373 --> 00:48:14,533
Speaker 2: Yeah. What about emotionally? What about emotionally? Edward? You know,

1027
00:48:14,613 --> 00:48:17,493
Speaker 2: what would you do around that? Because because people say

1028
00:48:17,533 --> 00:48:19,413
Speaker 2: that when they win the money, when you read about them,

1029
00:48:19,413 --> 00:48:21,493
Speaker 2: they think it's going to solve all their problems. And

1030
00:48:21,493 --> 00:48:24,453
Speaker 2: you hear this as well with you know, rock stars

1031
00:48:24,493 --> 00:48:26,773
Speaker 2: when they suddenly become rich and their album's number one,

1032
00:48:26,813 --> 00:48:29,373
Speaker 2: and you hear it from movie stars when it happens

1033
00:48:29,413 --> 00:48:32,853
Speaker 2: anyone that comes into a lot of money and all

1034
00:48:32,893 --> 00:48:36,613
Speaker 2: their dreams come true, they suddenly don't have something to

1035
00:48:36,653 --> 00:48:39,693
Speaker 2: strive for and they and they realize, you know, wherever

1036
00:48:39,733 --> 00:48:42,533
Speaker 2: you go, there you are, and that their problems don't disappear.

1037
00:48:42,573 --> 00:48:46,692
Speaker 2: They just are almost exacerbated by the fact that they

1038
00:48:46,693 --> 00:48:51,533
Speaker 2: have unlimited resources to throw into whatever negative emotions or

1039
00:48:52,373 --> 00:48:53,493
Speaker 2: negative habits that they have.

1040
00:48:54,453 --> 00:48:56,773
Speaker 8: Well, that's the problem. Money's not going to solve your problems.

1041
00:48:57,773 --> 00:48:59,173
Speaker 8: At least I've got a financial problem.

1042
00:48:59,493 --> 00:49:00,013
Speaker 10: It's going to fix.

1043
00:49:00,893 --> 00:49:02,693
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1044
00:49:01,093 --> 00:49:04,493
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not going to solve any issues you dealt

1045
00:49:04,533 --> 00:49:05,813
Speaker 8: with your whole life. We're haven't dealt with.

1046
00:49:06,053 --> 00:49:06,772
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1047
00:49:06,973 --> 00:49:08,293
Speaker 8: I might give you a bit more money to go,

1048
00:49:08,493 --> 00:49:10,093
Speaker 8: pay a bit more for specialists.

1049
00:49:10,173 --> 00:49:13,253
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Get yourself good shrink.

1050
00:49:13,493 --> 00:49:20,493
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's not going to fix anything really apart from

1051
00:49:20,733 --> 00:49:21,813
Speaker 10: your financial statue.

1052
00:49:22,333 --> 00:49:22,893
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1053
00:49:23,533 --> 00:49:25,653
Speaker 8: But if you think if you give up thing yourself

1054
00:49:25,653 --> 00:49:27,692
Speaker 8: and gay it doesn't read anymore. I've got fifty five mel,

1055
00:49:28,253 --> 00:49:30,213
Speaker 8: then you're just on a big downhill spiral.

1056
00:49:30,413 --> 00:49:34,493
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Well, hopefully you do win the fifty five

1057
00:49:34,493 --> 00:49:36,493
Speaker 2: million Edward, and then we can test your theories out.

1058
00:49:36,893 --> 00:49:40,333
Speaker 2: You're left to contact us secretly and tell us how

1059
00:49:40,333 --> 00:49:41,173
Speaker 2: it's working out.

1060
00:49:42,773 --> 00:49:44,733
Speaker 8: You'll see me on the news flying down the highway with.

1061
00:49:47,733 --> 00:49:52,013
Speaker 2: The Yeah show. He's living the highlight for way a

1062
00:49:52,013 --> 00:49:56,253
Speaker 2: can that's that's in his his spined up phase. But

1063
00:49:56,253 --> 00:49:58,653
Speaker 2: he's but we know that he's getting a financial advisor

1064
00:49:58,693 --> 00:50:00,453
Speaker 2: and he's getting a shrink. He's going to be it's.

1065
00:50:00,333 --> 00:50:04,893
Speaker 3: Only the first five mel Yeah, you're a good man.

1066
00:50:04,933 --> 00:50:07,293
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Jo one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1067
00:50:07,333 --> 00:50:10,373
Speaker 3: Have you thought about winning fifty five million bucks this Saturday?

1068
00:50:10,373 --> 00:50:12,053
Speaker 3: And what's your plan to make sure you don't blow

1069
00:50:12,093 --> 00:50:12,373
Speaker 3: it all?

1070
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:12,933
Speaker 7: Really?

1071
00:50:12,933 --> 00:50:15,213
Speaker 2: Can you hear from you? It is twenty past two.

1072
00:50:19,093 --> 00:50:22,533
Speaker 1: Matd Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and

1073
00:50:22,533 --> 00:50:25,533
Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV afternoons.

1074
00:50:25,573 --> 00:50:27,813
Speaker 3: Here was twenty two past two. So how would you

1075
00:50:27,853 --> 00:50:30,413
Speaker 3: deal with winning fifty five million dollars if you thought

1076
00:50:30,413 --> 00:50:31,933
Speaker 3: about how you'd handle it emotionally?

1077
00:50:32,053 --> 00:50:34,413
Speaker 2: The six is they say money can't buy happiness, but

1078
00:50:34,653 --> 00:50:38,493
Speaker 2: I say it can get pretty damn close. Well, you

1079
00:50:38,533 --> 00:50:41,613
Speaker 2: know money can't buy your happiness potentially, but also I'll

1080
00:50:41,613 --> 00:50:45,453
Speaker 2: tell you what poverty can buy you, misery. Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:50:45,653 --> 00:50:47,973
Speaker 2: very true. When you don't have money that kind of sucks.

1082
00:50:48,013 --> 00:50:50,133
Speaker 2: Debt can buy you misery absolutely yeah.

1083
00:50:50,293 --> 00:50:52,813
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep those tis coming through A nine to two,

1084
00:50:52,973 --> 00:50:55,692
Speaker 3: nine to two, Jonathan, welcome to the show.

1085
00:50:56,533 --> 00:51:00,212
Speaker 18: I'll good upon guys. So the topic is that one

1086
00:51:00,253 --> 00:51:04,252
Speaker 18: person wins or one ticket wins fifty five million. Well, so, yeah,

1087
00:51:04,813 --> 00:51:08,053
Speaker 18: I sincerely hope that is not the case. I would

1088
00:51:08,173 --> 00:51:10,493
Speaker 18: love for it to go to at least I'd love

1089
00:51:10,533 --> 00:51:13,252
Speaker 18: for there to be at least ten winning tickets. That's

1090
00:51:13,253 --> 00:51:16,613
Speaker 18: five and a half million dollars each. And that's loads.

1091
00:51:16,893 --> 00:51:19,573
Speaker 18: That's that's I reckon. That's the optimum amount, four to

1092
00:51:19,613 --> 00:51:22,413
Speaker 18: five million, and it's not enough to go stupid on

1093
00:51:23,893 --> 00:51:26,692
Speaker 18: and it's and it spreads that fifty five million over

1094
00:51:26,973 --> 00:51:29,973
Speaker 18: so many more people. That's nice winning ticket.

1095
00:51:30,133 --> 00:51:33,253
Speaker 2: That's mad. That's a nice way to look at. But

1096
00:51:33,573 --> 00:51:36,653
Speaker 2: five point five million, Jonathan, So pay off your mortgage,

1097
00:51:37,573 --> 00:51:39,853
Speaker 2: put your kids through school, what whatever you could do.

1098
00:51:39,893 --> 00:51:41,333
Speaker 2: You could do a lot of the things that you've

1099
00:51:41,413 --> 00:51:44,773
Speaker 2: dreamed of. But yeah, you're right, you can't. You wouldn't

1100
00:51:44,773 --> 00:51:45,893
Speaker 2: have to worry.

1101
00:51:47,093 --> 00:51:48,973
Speaker 18: But the noise on the car park building, I thought

1102
00:51:48,973 --> 00:51:53,373
Speaker 18: it would be quiet here. But so I if I

1103
00:51:53,413 --> 00:51:54,813
Speaker 18: were to win the if I were to be that

1104
00:51:54,853 --> 00:51:57,212
Speaker 18: one winning ticket holder, I'd give myself a number cup

1105
00:51:57,733 --> 00:52:03,493
Speaker 18: and then I just I would just go nuts with it,

1106
00:52:03,613 --> 00:52:07,373
Speaker 18: giving it, giving it out. I'd give a lot to

1107
00:52:07,533 --> 00:52:10,293
Speaker 18: adults on a daughter who have got grown up families,

1108
00:52:10,813 --> 00:52:15,172
Speaker 18: no sorr who have got families with humongous mortgages. I'll

1109
00:52:15,213 --> 00:52:18,213
Speaker 18: give some to my blood And it's just no, you know,

1110
00:52:18,293 --> 00:52:20,053
Speaker 18: but this is what I would do. I would give

1111
00:52:21,653 --> 00:52:25,533
Speaker 18: I'd buy, say, run in to the hospital, or even

1112
00:52:25,893 --> 00:52:27,213
Speaker 18: we don't have to be running to the hospital. I

1113
00:52:27,213 --> 00:52:29,133
Speaker 18: could buy Autian Hospital run in to the hospital. Christian

1114
00:52:29,173 --> 00:52:32,493
Speaker 18: Hospital each an EMERI machine. They're only to do any

1115
00:52:33,213 --> 00:52:35,293
Speaker 18: for there only two and a half million dollars each,

1116
00:52:35,933 --> 00:52:39,172
Speaker 18: So I mean you could afford a stack of those

1117
00:52:39,213 --> 00:52:39,733
Speaker 18: if you want that?

1118
00:52:40,133 --> 00:52:43,453
Speaker 2: Would you do that anonymously, Jonathan? Would you publicly?

1119
00:52:45,333 --> 00:52:47,173
Speaker 18: Yeah, I'd do it anonymously. Yeah, No, I wouldn't. I

1120
00:52:47,173 --> 00:52:50,252
Speaker 18: wouldn't know. I'd contact the health boards and say, look,

1121
00:52:50,853 --> 00:52:53,172
Speaker 18: I'm available to buy your machine. Where do I send

1122
00:52:53,173 --> 00:52:54,213
Speaker 18: the money or something like that.

1123
00:52:55,453 --> 00:52:55,853
Speaker 5: I would.

1124
00:52:56,253 --> 00:52:59,093
Speaker 18: I would just I just want to do good with it.

1125
00:52:59,133 --> 00:53:01,333
Speaker 18: I really want that would be my grade.

1126
00:53:01,413 --> 00:53:03,573
Speaker 2: Well, hopefully you win them because because someone that wants

1127
00:53:03,573 --> 00:53:06,253
Speaker 2: to do good with it, rather than just envisioning all

1128
00:53:06,293 --> 00:53:09,413
Speaker 2: the luxuries they would have. When you talk about kids

1129
00:53:09,413 --> 00:53:11,213
Speaker 2: giving money to kids, though, you've got to be careful,

1130
00:53:11,253 --> 00:53:13,853
Speaker 2: don't you, Because if a child's eighteen and you give

1131
00:53:13,853 --> 00:53:17,493
Speaker 2: them three million dollars, say, for example, it's terrible for them.

1132
00:53:17,693 --> 00:53:19,533
Speaker 18: Oh yeah, sure, Now you've got to be responsible. And

1133
00:53:19,853 --> 00:53:21,973
Speaker 18: I've always been good with money in my entire life.

1134
00:53:22,053 --> 00:53:23,613
Speaker 18: I remember when I was a kid and I got

1135
00:53:23,653 --> 00:53:25,652
Speaker 18: fifty cents pocket money a week. I used to have

1136
00:53:25,653 --> 00:53:27,053
Speaker 18: a budget. Hell, I was going to give it up.

1137
00:53:27,453 --> 00:53:30,973
Speaker 18: So I've always been I've always been good with money.

1138
00:53:31,573 --> 00:53:35,813
Speaker 18: I've never I've never gone nuts with it. Yeah, but

1139
00:53:36,333 --> 00:53:40,093
Speaker 18: that would be my greatest pleasure, would be to do

1140
00:53:40,253 --> 00:53:42,213
Speaker 18: an enormous and an immenseal amount of good with it,

1141
00:53:42,533 --> 00:53:43,773
Speaker 18: and you can that could.

1142
00:53:43,573 --> 00:53:45,933
Speaker 2: Be meaningful work as well, because you know, if you've

1143
00:53:45,973 --> 00:53:48,172
Speaker 2: got a lot of money and you're throwing around willy nilly,

1144
00:53:48,253 --> 00:53:51,493
Speaker 2: you can do damage because you don't do true, true diligence.

1145
00:53:51,533 --> 00:53:54,172
Speaker 2: So so you know, some people say when you get

1146
00:53:54,173 --> 00:53:55,973
Speaker 2: fifty five million dollars that you know that what do

1147
00:53:55,973 --> 00:53:58,773
Speaker 2: they do with their lives? Well, if you carefully investigate

1148
00:53:58,813 --> 00:54:00,613
Speaker 2: how you're going to spend it, so it's spent in

1149
00:54:00,653 --> 00:54:02,732
Speaker 2: the in the right places and goes to the right

1150
00:54:02,733 --> 00:54:04,773
Speaker 2: people and does the maximum amount of good, then that

1151
00:54:04,813 --> 00:54:08,613
Speaker 2: would also fulfill your emotional needs and your spiritual needs

1152
00:54:08,613 --> 00:54:11,533
Speaker 2: and all those kind of things and fill up your days.

1153
00:54:12,293 --> 00:54:15,893
Speaker 2: So you know, yeah, all right, well Jonathan, all the

1154
00:54:15,893 --> 00:54:17,053
Speaker 2: best for this weekend.

1155
00:54:17,173 --> 00:54:19,013
Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you win or at least five and

1156
00:54:19,013 --> 00:54:20,692
Speaker 3: a half million dollars, which would be nice. I wait,

1157
00:54:20,693 --> 00:54:22,652
Speaker 3: one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

1158
00:54:22,813 --> 00:54:25,053
Speaker 3: Plenty of texts coming through on nine to nine two.

1159
00:54:25,533 --> 00:54:27,293
Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's a no brain to tell no one,

1160
00:54:27,413 --> 00:54:29,133
Speaker 2: sit on it for a few months and then tell

1161
00:54:29,173 --> 00:54:31,652
Speaker 2: people you've won a far lesser amount and a later

1162
00:54:31,733 --> 00:54:34,373
Speaker 2: lot of draw Then the laise will leave you alone,

1163
00:54:34,413 --> 00:54:36,453
Speaker 2: happy days. Yeah, it's actually quite smart.

1164
00:54:36,573 --> 00:54:38,493
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot. That's a good strategy to do

1165
00:54:38,613 --> 00:54:41,053
Speaker 3: nothing for three months so I can give you fifty k,

1166
00:54:41,173 --> 00:54:42,373
Speaker 3: but you know I haven't won that much.

1167
00:54:43,293 --> 00:54:44,973
Speaker 2: I one one hundred and ten thousand, and you can

1168
00:54:45,013 --> 00:54:48,213
Speaker 2: have one hundred thousand dollars. I'm amazing.

1169
00:54:48,413 --> 00:54:50,732
Speaker 3: Headlines with railing coming up. Then we're taking more of

1170
00:54:50,773 --> 00:54:53,413
Speaker 3: your calls. If you won the fifty five million dollars,

1171
00:54:53,813 --> 00:54:55,693
Speaker 3: what would you do with it to make sure that

1172
00:54:55,733 --> 00:54:59,413
Speaker 3: you remain happy and financially? Okay, it is twenty seven

1173
00:54:59,413 --> 00:55:00,573
Speaker 3: past two.

1174
00:55:02,253 --> 00:55:05,813
Speaker 14: US talk said the headlines with Blue Bubble taxis it's

1175
00:55:05,933 --> 00:55:08,973
Speaker 14: no trouble with a blue bubble heard of.

1176
00:55:09,173 --> 00:55:12,493
Speaker 15: A cohort of cops have been told of the importance

1177
00:55:12,733 --> 00:55:16,413
Speaker 15: of trust and confidence as the Jevin mc skinning scandal

1178
00:55:16,493 --> 00:55:19,812
Speaker 15: rocks the police force. Former Prime Minister and Police Wing

1179
00:55:19,853 --> 00:55:23,573
Speaker 15: Patron Sir John Key spoke of the officer's graduation today

1180
00:55:23,893 --> 00:55:27,773
Speaker 15: about how he believes Commissioner Richard Chambers will rebuild that

1181
00:55:27,893 --> 00:55:32,453
Speaker 15: trust and confidence. A promise of realistic climate targets ahead

1182
00:55:32,493 --> 00:55:36,733
Speaker 15: of a major global climate change conference, Climate Minister Simon

1183
00:55:36,773 --> 00:55:40,253
Speaker 15: Watts is going to COP thirty alongside Labour's Deborah Russell

1184
00:55:40,533 --> 00:55:43,893
Speaker 15: the global talks on the Paris Agreement and reducing emissions.

1185
00:55:44,813 --> 00:55:49,093
Speaker 15: A severe thunderstorm warning has been extended over Gisbone and Wydore.

1186
00:55:49,493 --> 00:55:52,172
Speaker 15: The thunderstorms expected to bring heavy rain and the risk

1187
00:55:52,213 --> 00:55:56,493
Speaker 15: of flash flooding. The warning lifts just before three this afternoon.

1188
00:55:57,413 --> 00:56:00,813
Speaker 15: Workers underway on a major car parking extension for Farga

1189
00:56:00,893 --> 00:56:06,653
Speaker 15: DA Hospital in Northland, creating nearly six hundred new spaces. Inland,

1190
00:56:06,693 --> 00:56:10,173
Speaker 15: Revenue has successfully applied to place the former owner of

1191
00:56:10,213 --> 00:56:14,013
Speaker 15: a popular wide or restaurant into liquidation. You can see

1192
00:56:14,053 --> 00:56:17,613
Speaker 15: more at zid Herald Premium. Back to Matteeth and Tyler Adams.

1193
00:56:17,653 --> 00:56:18,693
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Raylean.

1194
00:56:18,773 --> 00:56:21,453
Speaker 3: So we're talking about the big fifty five million dollar

1195
00:56:21,573 --> 00:56:24,613
Speaker 3: loto jackpot this Saturday must be one. If you won

1196
00:56:24,693 --> 00:56:26,333
Speaker 3: that money, have you got a plan in place that

1197
00:56:26,333 --> 00:56:29,493
Speaker 3: you wouldn't lose your mind and ensure that you remain

1198
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:30,573
Speaker 3: somewhat happy.

1199
00:56:30,653 --> 00:56:32,493
Speaker 2: This Texas got a plan of mind, I'd build one

1200
00:56:32,533 --> 00:56:35,053
Speaker 2: of those big Scrooge McDuck swimming pools so I could

1201
00:56:35,053 --> 00:56:37,133
Speaker 2: swim in my money. It's a yeah, it's not a

1202
00:56:37,173 --> 00:56:40,732
Speaker 2: bad idea, that's just that's a solid plan. Yeah, I'm

1203
00:56:40,733 --> 00:56:44,213
Speaker 2: sure that would work out for it. You fellas, winning

1204
00:56:44,453 --> 00:56:46,853
Speaker 2: fifty five million wouldn't change me one bit. I'd still

1205
00:56:46,853 --> 00:56:48,813
Speaker 2: be a preck, just a prick and a helicopter. That's

1206
00:56:48,813 --> 00:56:52,733
Speaker 2: from matt Oh. If it's not till you go to

1207
00:56:52,733 --> 00:56:54,732
Speaker 2: Europe that you realize you need a lot more than

1208
00:56:54,893 --> 00:56:58,093
Speaker 2: fifty five million. Five hundred million wouldn't touch the sides.

1209
00:56:58,253 --> 00:57:02,293
Speaker 2: Both cost two hundred million, a plane fifty million. Then

1210
00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:04,813
Speaker 2: you're nearly out of money. Well see, that's the problem,

1211
00:57:04,853 --> 00:57:07,773
Speaker 2: isn't it is that you won fifty five million dollars

1212
00:57:07,773 --> 00:57:09,533
Speaker 2: and then you go Europeans think I'd like a big

1213
00:57:09,613 --> 00:57:13,413
Speaker 2: yacht and fifty five million dollars isn't enough, then nothing's

1214
00:57:13,413 --> 00:57:15,573
Speaker 2: ever going to be enough. I would set up an

1215
00:57:15,573 --> 00:57:18,373
Speaker 2: account with maybe ten million, and all family can take

1216
00:57:18,413 --> 00:57:21,293
Speaker 2: a loan with only a one percent interest. Judge bad.

1217
00:57:21,693 --> 00:57:23,613
Speaker 2: See when you start this is what the problem is.

1218
00:57:23,653 --> 00:57:25,733
Speaker 2: People try and involve their families, and when they involve,

1219
00:57:25,773 --> 00:57:28,133
Speaker 2: the family's resentment comes. And if you go, you know,

1220
00:57:28,213 --> 00:57:30,293
Speaker 2: you've won the money, you've won fifty five million dollars,

1221
00:57:30,333 --> 00:57:33,693
Speaker 2: and then you're giving them money and charging them interest. Yeah, yeah,

1222
00:57:33,733 --> 00:57:35,893
Speaker 2: that could turn bad. That's when it sort of turns

1223
00:57:35,893 --> 00:57:39,373
Speaker 2: into a Rosebud kind of Citizen Kane type all on

1224
00:57:39,373 --> 00:57:42,813
Speaker 2: your own, inter mansion type situation. Diane, welcome to the show.

1225
00:57:44,173 --> 00:57:45,733
Speaker 7: Hi there, how you going good?

1226
00:57:45,773 --> 00:57:49,053
Speaker 2: Thank you your thoughts.

1227
00:57:49,333 --> 00:57:52,093
Speaker 19: Well, my auntie and uncle they've actually won twice. They've

1228
00:57:52,133 --> 00:57:56,813
Speaker 19: won Lotto twice. Well they've thing really smart was that

1229
00:57:57,533 --> 00:58:00,013
Speaker 19: the first time they won was one point three million,

1230
00:58:00,053 --> 00:58:02,973
Speaker 19: and they were the outright winners of Lotto that time.

1231
00:58:03,893 --> 00:58:06,893
Speaker 19: And they were really generous. They bought their two children

1232
00:58:07,093 --> 00:58:11,213
Speaker 19: a house each did mortgage free, and they bought a

1233
00:58:11,333 --> 00:58:14,973
Speaker 19: house themselves on whitehige and nothing, nothing flash or anything

1234
00:58:15,013 --> 00:58:17,493
Speaker 19: like that. Just you know, a normal three bedroom house

1235
00:58:17,533 --> 00:58:20,933
Speaker 19: on white Kick. But they were able to retire probably

1236
00:58:21,373 --> 00:58:25,653
Speaker 19: I think six or seven years earlier than they planned that,

1237
00:58:25,693 --> 00:58:27,933
Speaker 19: and they were able to they lived very comfortably on

1238
00:58:28,013 --> 00:58:32,493
Speaker 19: Whitehiki for a long time. And then about seven years

1239
00:58:32,573 --> 00:58:35,933
Speaker 19: later they bought another ticket, and I was luck because

1240
00:58:35,973 --> 00:58:38,773
Speaker 19: they were buying twelve dollar tickets like not, you know,

1241
00:58:38,973 --> 00:58:41,493
Speaker 19: not spending a lot on it. But they bought another

1242
00:58:41,533 --> 00:58:45,653
Speaker 19: twelve dollar ticket and they won first division, but divided,

1243
00:58:45,733 --> 00:58:48,893
Speaker 19: and they ended up with seven hundred and fifty five

1244
00:58:48,973 --> 00:58:54,773
Speaker 19: thousand dollars that time, and that.

1245
00:58:53,973 --> 00:58:56,053
Speaker 2: You'd start to think you lived in a simulation. You'd

1246
00:58:56,213 --> 00:58:57,613
Speaker 2: start to think that life was a bit of a

1247
00:58:58,053 --> 00:59:00,373
Speaker 2: game when that was happening twice.

1248
00:58:59,733 --> 00:59:03,933
Speaker 19: Yeah, And it was just they were they were really

1249
00:59:04,133 --> 00:59:06,413
Speaker 19: that when they got the seven hundred and fifty five

1250
00:59:06,573 --> 00:59:10,173
Speaker 19: they were really good because Auntie your own, had four sisters,

1251
00:59:10,213 --> 00:59:13,333
Speaker 19: so all the sisters got ten thousand dollars each, and

1252
00:59:13,853 --> 00:59:17,973
Speaker 19: they flew us in from around wherever you were in

1253
00:59:18,013 --> 00:59:20,933
Speaker 19: the world. We all came together and we stayed at

1254
00:59:20,933 --> 00:59:24,973
Speaker 19: the Regent Hotel in downtown Auckford, and we had like

1255
00:59:25,013 --> 00:59:27,653
Speaker 19: a family reunion, and it was all the cousins and

1256
00:59:27,693 --> 00:59:30,493
Speaker 19: the aunties and uncles, and it wasn't a wedding and

1257
00:59:30,533 --> 00:59:33,173
Speaker 19: it wasn't a funeral. It was just so relaxed and

1258
00:59:33,373 --> 00:59:36,293
Speaker 19: so much fun just to catch up and talk. And

1259
00:59:36,533 --> 00:59:38,733
Speaker 19: they take for all of us to stay there and

1260
00:59:39,293 --> 00:59:42,973
Speaker 19: fly from wherever we were in the country. So, Yeah,

1261
00:59:43,013 --> 00:59:44,453
Speaker 19: they were amazingly generous.

1262
00:59:44,533 --> 00:59:48,933
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting day that they chose to

1263
00:59:49,213 --> 00:59:51,333
Speaker 2: be quite public about it. Were that Were they public

1264
00:59:51,453 --> 00:59:55,013
Speaker 2: with their family and also in the media, or were

1265
00:59:55,053 --> 00:59:57,773
Speaker 2: they winning twice? You could be a big story and

1266
00:59:57,773 --> 00:59:59,413
Speaker 2: then you've got a lot of attention, which you might

1267
00:59:59,453 --> 01:00:01,773
Speaker 2: which might be a cause problems.

1268
01:00:03,253 --> 01:00:07,133
Speaker 19: No, they definitely weren't public with it, but within the

1269
01:00:07,173 --> 01:00:11,813
Speaker 19: family we all knew and that and the thing I

1270
01:00:11,813 --> 01:00:14,213
Speaker 19: think we all loved about it was they were really

1271
01:00:14,333 --> 01:00:16,973
Speaker 19: poor when they won the first time, like they had

1272
01:00:17,173 --> 01:00:20,453
Speaker 19: they had done years of hardship, like really hard I

1273
01:00:20,533 --> 01:00:23,933
Speaker 19: think they'd lost their house three times prior so. They

1274
01:00:24,053 --> 01:00:27,493
Speaker 19: but they you know, they were very, very very grateful,

1275
01:00:27,533 --> 01:00:31,213
Speaker 19: but very start with the money as well. They never

1276
01:00:31,293 --> 01:00:35,533
Speaker 19: wanted to go backwards either, so they weren't extravagant with it.

1277
01:00:35,613 --> 01:00:35,973
Speaker 20: They did.

1278
01:00:36,533 --> 01:00:39,413
Speaker 19: I don't think they ever had a holiday. They considered

1279
01:00:39,693 --> 01:00:43,773
Speaker 19: moving to why Heckey was the holiday, but they were

1280
01:00:43,853 --> 01:00:47,973
Speaker 19: just yeah, they were lovely weather and they just looked

1281
01:00:47,973 --> 01:00:48,973
Speaker 19: at us to their own.

1282
01:00:48,773 --> 01:00:53,333
Speaker 2: I suppose people to win that money, Yeah.

1283
01:00:53,173 --> 01:00:55,533
Speaker 19: I remember my mum ringing to tell me that they'd

1284
01:00:55,573 --> 01:00:59,093
Speaker 19: won the first time because they had to catch a

1285
01:00:59,173 --> 01:01:02,893
Speaker 19: ferry over to why from whiteh Hecky to downtown autend

1286
01:01:02,933 --> 01:01:05,773
Speaker 19: to find a lot of shops to confirm it, and

1287
01:01:05,813 --> 01:01:09,173
Speaker 19: they bought three bottles of pinctuas on and three bottles

1288
01:01:09,173 --> 01:01:11,133
Speaker 19: of white shot on and they were all quite cipsy

1289
01:01:11,173 --> 01:01:12,253
Speaker 19: when they cloned that night.

1290
01:01:12,453 --> 01:01:15,413
Speaker 2: Good stuff were the best.

1291
01:01:15,653 --> 01:01:18,573
Speaker 19: You've won one point three million and you're drinking pink shirt.

1292
01:01:20,933 --> 01:01:24,093
Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, don't forget your roots, as they say, yeah,

1293
01:01:24,293 --> 01:01:28,133
Speaker 3: just quickly, quickly, Diane, how did the sisters go with

1294
01:01:28,173 --> 01:01:30,293
Speaker 3: the ten thousand dollars? Clearly that's you know, it's a

1295
01:01:30,293 --> 01:01:33,173
Speaker 3: lot of money for anybody. Were they happy with that

1296
01:01:33,213 --> 01:01:35,373
Speaker 3: amount or was there any grizzles that maybe they wanted

1297
01:01:35,413 --> 01:01:35,853
Speaker 3: a bit more?

1298
01:01:36,973 --> 01:01:37,933
Speaker 20: No, absolutely not.

1299
01:01:38,013 --> 01:01:43,613
Speaker 19: Everyone was born away. It really helped everyone get everyone

1300
01:01:43,653 --> 01:01:46,133
Speaker 19: through UNI and it was just at the right time

1301
01:01:46,173 --> 01:01:48,133
Speaker 19: when we were all all our cousins were having that

1302
01:01:48,333 --> 01:01:52,573
Speaker 19: UNI age and there was twenty one of us. So yeah,

1303
01:01:53,253 --> 01:01:57,133
Speaker 19: it went a long way. It really helped. And it's

1304
01:01:57,173 --> 01:02:00,853
Speaker 19: funny because no one ever, I've asked afterwards and stuff,

1305
01:02:00,853 --> 01:02:03,733
Speaker 19: no one ever really approached them for loans or anything,

1306
01:02:03,813 --> 01:02:06,333
Speaker 19: you know, like we just left them to enjoy it too.

1307
01:02:06,653 --> 01:02:08,733
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because that could be the problem, isn't it.

1308
01:02:08,773 --> 01:02:10,493
Speaker 2: So you help someone out and then they get in

1309
01:02:10,573 --> 01:02:12,733
Speaker 2: more trouble and then they ask you for more money,

1310
01:02:12,813 --> 01:02:14,893
Speaker 2: and then you have to say no, and they say,

1311
01:02:14,893 --> 01:02:16,413
Speaker 2: but you just got won the money, so why can

1312
01:02:16,493 --> 01:02:18,013
Speaker 2: you give me the money I'm going to You're already

1313
01:02:18,013 --> 01:02:19,653
Speaker 2: gave me ten thousand dollars, now I need one hundred.

1314
01:02:21,173 --> 01:02:25,133
Speaker 19: There a horrible position to be, oh terrible.

1315
01:02:25,293 --> 01:02:26,813
Speaker 18: Yeah, no, it was great.

1316
01:02:27,133 --> 01:02:30,453
Speaker 19: They lived well and they and they were very careful

1317
01:02:30,493 --> 01:02:33,573
Speaker 19: with it. They went slowly and had a great life

1318
01:02:33,733 --> 01:02:34,693
Speaker 19: right through to the end.

1319
01:02:34,773 --> 01:02:36,493
Speaker 20: So great, very special.

1320
01:02:36,653 --> 01:02:39,533
Speaker 2: That's a great story. Thank you so much for sharing story, Diane.

1321
01:02:39,533 --> 01:02:40,653
Speaker 2: That was that was very interesting.

1322
01:02:40,733 --> 01:02:42,693
Speaker 3: Yeah, I one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

1323
01:02:42,773 --> 01:02:45,053
Speaker 3: number to call love to get your thoughts on winning

1324
01:02:45,093 --> 01:02:46,573
Speaker 3: that fifty five million dollars.

1325
01:02:47,213 --> 01:02:48,253
Speaker 2: Jace, Welcome to the show.

1326
01:02:49,613 --> 01:02:53,133
Speaker 11: That just underscores. Thanks Fella's lift breeds luck. Right, winning

1327
01:02:53,173 --> 01:02:55,733
Speaker 11: it first time, we all dream about winning the second.

1328
01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:58,573
Speaker 11: That's sort of it's almost like supernatural.

1329
01:02:58,013 --> 01:02:59,493
Speaker 7: Stuff, pretty free to share, you know.

1330
01:02:59,573 --> 01:03:02,453
Speaker 11: That's that's saying, you know that money won't buy your happiness.

1331
01:03:02,493 --> 01:03:04,693
Speaker 11: I think that was always devised by people that ether

1332
01:03:04,893 --> 01:03:09,173
Speaker 11: that just don't have enough compelling compete against that. I

1333
01:03:09,173 --> 01:03:12,493
Speaker 11: think the best way you can make happiness out of

1334
01:03:12,493 --> 01:03:15,413
Speaker 11: winning money like this is make others that are unhappy happy.

1335
01:03:15,613 --> 01:03:17,653
Speaker 11: And look, they might be down on their luck, they

1336
01:03:17,733 --> 01:03:20,093
Speaker 11: might they might have lost a job. I wouldn't think

1337
01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:21,733
Speaker 11: of a better way if you would have win that

1338
01:03:22,093 --> 01:03:24,893
Speaker 11: nomination of money to reach out to people you know

1339
01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:28,213
Speaker 11: in that situation and that that that's gold. Or you

1340
01:03:28,253 --> 01:03:30,213
Speaker 11: might be in a situation where you medically you just

1341
01:03:30,213 --> 01:03:32,973
Speaker 11: can't afford to get treatment, and we know what it's like,

1342
01:03:33,133 --> 01:03:36,973
Speaker 11: you know, these parts of the world to certain things

1343
01:03:37,133 --> 01:03:40,013
Speaker 11: you just can't afford, you know, to buy some more time.

1344
01:03:40,093 --> 01:03:42,293
Speaker 11: And I think that's another area where it could it

1345
01:03:42,333 --> 01:03:45,573
Speaker 11: could you know, prove that happiness. But but I got

1346
01:03:45,573 --> 01:03:48,413
Speaker 11: a fundamental issue with Lotto and I don't know him

1347
01:03:48,453 --> 01:03:50,773
Speaker 11: to be a doom doomster. On the eve of a

1348
01:03:50,813 --> 01:03:53,653
Speaker 11: fifty five million jackpop. But that's my problem, fellas. No

1349
01:03:53,733 --> 01:03:56,053
Speaker 11: one in this country should be allowed to win fifty

1350
01:03:56,093 --> 01:04:00,133
Speaker 11: five million dollars outright, Like I personally think a way

1351
01:04:00,173 --> 01:04:02,093
Speaker 11: better system and I hope lot O are listening and

1352
01:04:02,213 --> 01:04:04,373
Speaker 11: powers to be, but they're probably not as once it

1353
01:04:04,413 --> 01:04:08,013
Speaker 11: gets to past ten, make sure people make sure five

1354
01:04:08,053 --> 01:04:12,133
Speaker 11: people win two or two people win five or whatever.

1355
01:04:12,253 --> 01:04:15,133
Speaker 11: You do not need to win fifty five million dollars.

1356
01:04:15,293 --> 01:04:17,973
Speaker 2: There was a good chance, though Jay said it all

1357
01:04:18,053 --> 01:04:21,013
Speaker 2: that happens, that happens, that it split up a good chance.

1358
01:04:21,333 --> 01:04:21,973
Speaker 6: No, no, no.

1359
01:04:22,013 --> 01:04:23,893
Speaker 11: Most of the big jackparts and I've looked into this

1360
01:04:24,013 --> 01:04:26,373
Speaker 11: that are around over thirty forty and there was one

1361
01:04:26,413 --> 01:04:29,533
Speaker 11: other that went to the max had to terminate. Mostly

1362
01:04:29,613 --> 01:04:32,053
Speaker 11: you'll find it'll grind your gears Sunday morning when you

1363
01:04:32,093 --> 01:04:35,293
Speaker 11: read one person from Bellcluther board it online or something

1364
01:04:35,333 --> 01:04:35,853
Speaker 11: you're near.

1365
01:04:35,933 --> 01:04:38,213
Speaker 2: From the beginning, I've got the story Chase on that

1366
01:04:38,213 --> 01:04:40,653
Speaker 2: that it's always you're not gonna not go want a

1367
01:04:40,653 --> 01:04:43,493
Speaker 2: lot of buying your lotto ticket in Central Aukland. It's

1368
01:04:43,493 --> 01:04:46,613
Speaker 2: always Bellcluther or Raglin.

1369
01:04:46,533 --> 01:04:49,493
Speaker 6: Or some non descript place.

1370
01:04:49,653 --> 01:04:51,733
Speaker 11: But look, I don't look that's a that's a discussion

1371
01:04:51,773 --> 01:04:55,853
Speaker 11: for another day. The moral compass on this, but no, look, honestly, mate,

1372
01:04:55,853 --> 01:04:57,573
Speaker 11: for me, in all seriousness, if it were to be

1373
01:04:57,653 --> 01:05:00,293
Speaker 11: me and the chances are two trillion to one, it'll

1374
01:05:00,333 --> 01:05:05,333
Speaker 11: be family, good friends and doing something that I don't

1375
01:05:05,333 --> 01:05:08,573
Speaker 11: want to be renown for that I don't know, just

1376
01:05:08,573 --> 01:05:10,853
Speaker 11: makes a difference in a lot of people's lives, because

1377
01:05:10,893 --> 01:05:12,733
Speaker 11: that's what it would take to make me happy winning

1378
01:05:12,733 --> 01:05:13,773
Speaker 11: that type of money.

1379
01:05:13,973 --> 01:05:17,013
Speaker 2: On you said, Jae, A good message. Yeah, absolutely right.

1380
01:05:17,053 --> 01:05:19,333
Speaker 3: I got to play some messages, but taking more of

1381
01:05:19,373 --> 01:05:21,253
Speaker 3: your calls. We've got full boards at the moment. If

1382
01:05:21,253 --> 01:05:23,013
Speaker 3: you can't get through, keep trying. If you won the

1383
01:05:23,053 --> 01:05:25,613
Speaker 3: fifty five million dollars, how would it play out?

1384
01:05:25,653 --> 01:05:27,333
Speaker 2: Do you think? For your life? Love to hear from you.

1385
01:05:27,413 --> 01:05:28,453
Speaker 2: It is twenty two to three.

1386
01:05:29,333 --> 01:05:32,733
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and

1387
01:05:33,053 --> 01:05:37,133
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tayler Adams afternoons us talks.

1388
01:05:37,133 --> 01:05:39,293
Speaker 3: They'd be for a good afternoon seventeen to three. If

1389
01:05:39,293 --> 01:05:42,013
Speaker 3: you won the fifty five million dollars loto jack pot,

1390
01:05:42,093 --> 01:05:43,373
Speaker 3: what is your plan?

1391
01:05:43,693 --> 01:05:45,413
Speaker 2: The stick said. I always thought that I would help

1392
01:05:45,453 --> 01:05:47,093
Speaker 2: my friends, but now I wonder if they would help

1393
01:05:47,133 --> 01:05:49,373
Speaker 2: me Wow. You do things because it's the right thing

1394
01:05:49,413 --> 01:05:52,053
Speaker 2: to do, don't you, Wow? Most of us. It makes

1395
01:05:52,093 --> 01:05:54,213
Speaker 2: you a better person if you would help them but

1396
01:05:54,213 --> 01:05:57,013
Speaker 2: they wouldn't help you. That that just makes you thanks

1397
01:05:57,053 --> 01:05:57,413
Speaker 2: you better?

1398
01:05:57,613 --> 01:05:59,733
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, You've got to be the bigger person

1399
01:05:59,773 --> 01:06:00,493
Speaker 3: in your life if you can.

1400
01:06:00,773 --> 01:06:03,693
Speaker 2: The best revenge is to not be like them, as

1401
01:06:03,733 --> 01:06:07,773
Speaker 2: the saying, as the Marcus Aralia saying, John, how are

1402
01:06:07,813 --> 01:06:11,653
Speaker 2: you you? You're a lawyer who's helped a major lot

1403
01:06:11,653 --> 01:06:13,253
Speaker 2: of winners. You're an excellent person to talk to.

1404
01:06:14,573 --> 01:06:19,493
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's an interesting process for those people to go through.

1405
01:06:20,973 --> 01:06:24,573
Speaker 20: But the first the first point was that the Lottery's

1406
01:06:24,573 --> 01:06:29,053
Speaker 20: commission does give these people advice, effectively to go and

1407
01:06:29,093 --> 01:06:33,573
Speaker 20: get advice. So that's to study position. And in our case,

1408
01:06:34,213 --> 01:06:37,813
Speaker 20: heapned twice and they were both existing clients of the firm,

1409
01:06:37,973 --> 01:06:41,453
Speaker 20: and they came and got some advice about how to

1410
01:06:41,453 --> 01:06:43,253
Speaker 20: protect themselves and their families.

1411
01:06:43,813 --> 01:06:46,973
Speaker 2: Does does does lotto and does? And from a legal perspective,

1412
01:06:47,053 --> 01:06:49,293
Speaker 2: do you give them the advice to stay anonymous?

1413
01:06:51,893 --> 01:06:55,373
Speaker 20: I think usually by the time they've come to the lawyer,

1414
01:06:56,213 --> 01:06:58,453
Speaker 20: they have already it'll even be out or it won't

1415
01:06:58,453 --> 01:07:02,333
Speaker 20: be so Lottery certainly gives it. I think lotteries gives

1416
01:07:02,333 --> 01:07:05,093
Speaker 20: a lot of advice around them, but also lottery's likes

1417
01:07:05,133 --> 01:07:09,253
Speaker 20: to celebrate good stories, so I guess you've got to

1418
01:07:09,333 --> 01:07:13,733
Speaker 20: publicize it. Yeah, Usually those decisions have been made for

1419
01:07:14,053 --> 01:07:16,333
Speaker 20: people have come and asked me. But if they did

1420
01:07:16,373 --> 01:07:19,733
Speaker 20: ask I would be telling them not to broadcast it

1421
01:07:19,773 --> 01:07:20,693
Speaker 20: to the entire world.

1422
01:07:20,933 --> 01:07:26,693
Speaker 2: What other advice do you give them the difficulty?

1423
01:07:26,933 --> 01:07:28,933
Speaker 20: I think the really interesting thing of the discussions that

1424
01:07:28,973 --> 01:07:34,533
Speaker 20: you've been having is that people the pressure to give money,

1425
01:07:34,853 --> 01:07:36,893
Speaker 20: or the expectation to give money, is one of the

1426
01:07:36,933 --> 01:07:40,413
Speaker 20: most difficult things for people to deal with. So there

1427
01:07:40,413 --> 01:07:43,333
Speaker 20: are ways to deal with that, like, for example, setting

1428
01:07:43,373 --> 01:07:47,253
Speaker 20: up a family trust where you have an independent person involved,

1429
01:07:47,973 --> 01:07:50,893
Speaker 20: and then you can actually say to people, well, I

1430
01:07:50,933 --> 01:07:53,053
Speaker 20: can't just give you money because my lawyer and my

1431
01:07:53,133 --> 01:07:57,293
Speaker 20: accountant or some other person actually has to make that

1432
01:07:57,413 --> 01:08:01,773
Speaker 20: decision with me. It also means that if your children

1433
01:08:01,893 --> 01:08:05,293
Speaker 20: give money to your children and they get into a relationship,

1434
01:08:05,773 --> 01:08:09,213
Speaker 20: you could protect your child because that money is owned

1435
01:08:09,213 --> 01:08:12,453
Speaker 20: by a family trust. Now, now, in the long term

1436
01:08:12,493 --> 01:08:15,013
Speaker 20: it will end up with their child, but but you

1437
01:08:15,053 --> 01:08:17,853
Speaker 20: can offer protection in the meantime. So there's lots of

1438
01:08:17,893 --> 01:08:22,412
Speaker 20: mechanisms that you can use to set this up. But

1439
01:08:22,653 --> 01:08:25,412
Speaker 20: generally people have a bit of fun as well, So

1440
01:08:27,372 --> 01:08:29,692
Speaker 20: it's not like saying, don't spend any money, don't have

1441
01:08:29,772 --> 01:08:33,572
Speaker 20: any fun. It's just making sure that when the dust

1442
01:08:33,612 --> 01:08:37,452
Speaker 20: settles that you've got enough bit less to be able

1443
01:08:37,452 --> 01:08:40,173
Speaker 20: to actually make a change. And whether that's for you,

1444
01:08:40,572 --> 01:08:43,013
Speaker 20: family or community, that's up to you.

1445
01:08:44,053 --> 01:08:46,812
Speaker 2: I always thought if I won a big amount of money,

1446
01:08:47,013 --> 01:08:49,892
Speaker 2: I would set up kind of some kind of I

1447
01:08:49,933 --> 01:08:54,253
Speaker 2: don't know fund will you help people? You know? Like,

1448
01:08:54,532 --> 01:08:55,932
Speaker 2: you know, what do you call it? Not not a

1449
01:08:56,013 --> 01:08:58,973
Speaker 2: not a patron of the arts, but a benefactor, like

1450
01:08:59,532 --> 01:09:03,692
Speaker 2: a silent benefactor type person. So so what what what

1451
01:09:03,732 --> 01:09:05,973
Speaker 2: I mean? How do people go about that? Because you

1452
01:09:06,053 --> 01:09:08,732
Speaker 2: might not want to be well known for doing it.

1453
01:09:08,772 --> 01:09:10,253
Speaker 2: You just want to operate in the background. But you

1454
01:09:10,253 --> 01:09:12,572
Speaker 2: can't really going around searching people and giving them money

1455
01:09:12,612 --> 01:09:15,293
Speaker 2: and giving people money anonymously and all that kind of stuff.

1456
01:09:15,293 --> 01:09:17,452
Speaker 2: Is it possible to set up a structure like that

1457
01:09:17,492 --> 01:09:21,053
Speaker 2: where you can be a silent benefactor towards you know,

1458
01:09:21,133 --> 01:09:24,732
Speaker 2: people that you deem to be worthy one hundred percent.

1459
01:09:26,173 --> 01:09:31,053
Speaker 20: As you looked at most properties in a district you'll

1460
01:09:31,093 --> 01:09:35,932
Speaker 20: see lots of lawyers' names on titles or lawyers trustee

1461
01:09:35,933 --> 01:09:40,372
Speaker 20: and nominee companies on titles because people don't want that

1462
01:09:40,412 --> 01:09:43,452
Speaker 20: sort of information to be publicized. And so yeah, absolutely

1463
01:09:43,532 --> 01:09:45,932
Speaker 20: you can set up a charity, trust or any other

1464
01:09:46,093 --> 01:09:50,972
Speaker 20: entity that you wanted and keep yourself relatively anonymous. I mean,

1465
01:09:51,173 --> 01:09:53,293
Speaker 20: like most things in Jill in a small place. So

1466
01:09:53,452 --> 01:09:57,173
Speaker 20: most of the times, regardless of your structure, once people know,

1467
01:09:57,293 --> 01:10:00,013
Speaker 20: they know, and often take long for that information to

1468
01:10:00,973 --> 01:10:04,892
Speaker 20: pass around. But going back to that earlier point, if

1469
01:10:05,013 --> 01:10:09,932
Speaker 20: you've got a structure we for example, I win this money.

1470
01:10:10,293 --> 01:10:12,772
Speaker 20: If I can't just give you money because there are

1471
01:10:12,853 --> 01:10:16,253
Speaker 20: other people involved in that division process, that's a really

1472
01:10:16,253 --> 01:10:17,892
Speaker 20: good protection for people to have.

1473
01:10:18,492 --> 01:10:22,012
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, it fascinating to chat to you and do you.

1474
01:10:22,013 --> 01:10:24,052
Speaker 2: Know, I mean, can you talk about it because because

1475
01:10:24,093 --> 01:10:26,972
Speaker 2: you know, this chat sort of well it started off

1476
01:10:27,013 --> 01:10:30,852
Speaker 2: because that whenever there's a big lot of draw coming up,

1477
01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:33,372
Speaker 2: there's always the article that enlisting all the people that

1478
01:10:33,452 --> 01:10:35,973
Speaker 2: became miserable from it and ruined their lives. Did the

1479
01:10:35,973 --> 01:10:38,972
Speaker 2: people that you give advice in one bag have they

1480
01:10:39,253 --> 01:10:41,732
Speaker 2: have they thrived, have they succeeded, or have they crashed

1481
01:10:41,772 --> 01:10:42,852
Speaker 2: and burned trev style.

1482
01:10:44,372 --> 01:10:49,853
Speaker 20: They have thrived and and and nicely. People in the

1483
01:10:49,973 --> 01:10:53,932
Speaker 20: in the community knew that they had won because that's

1484
01:10:54,013 --> 01:10:58,213
Speaker 20: the nature of New Zealand society, right, But they also

1485
01:10:58,612 --> 01:11:03,932
Speaker 20: like they set up their families, they made their lives better,

1486
01:11:04,652 --> 01:11:07,413
Speaker 20: and they also gave a lot back to the community.

1487
01:11:07,772 --> 01:11:10,372
Speaker 20: And I think it takes away some of their pressure

1488
01:11:10,412 --> 01:11:17,293
Speaker 20: from from people that contact you with their life story.

1489
01:11:16,772 --> 01:11:17,333
Speaker 8: And look at it.

1490
01:11:17,853 --> 01:11:20,372
Speaker 20: It's tragic, right. You are going to be contacted by

1491
01:11:20,412 --> 01:11:24,053
Speaker 20: people whose child might have cancer and wants to go

1492
01:11:24,093 --> 01:11:26,932
Speaker 20: to Mexico for treatment, and you're going to get these

1493
01:11:27,053 --> 01:11:32,053
Speaker 20: kind of approaches and what do you do. So you

1494
01:11:32,053 --> 01:11:35,732
Speaker 20: can have a cold hearted lawyer like me say no

1495
01:11:36,812 --> 01:11:39,532
Speaker 20: because it doesn't put the parameters of of of the

1496
01:11:39,652 --> 01:11:42,732
Speaker 20: rules that we set up for this. Now we love

1497
01:11:42,772 --> 01:11:46,133
Speaker 20: of a softy deep down, but the reality is is

1498
01:11:46,133 --> 01:11:49,253
Speaker 20: that if you set up a mechanism that has a

1499
01:11:49,293 --> 01:11:52,812
Speaker 20: decision making process rather than just you, you know, if

1500
01:11:52,853 --> 01:11:54,572
Speaker 20: you've got nothing in place and it's just you and

1501
01:11:54,612 --> 01:11:57,292
Speaker 20: your bank account, yeah, it's it's.

1502
01:11:57,173 --> 01:12:00,853
Speaker 2: I mean it's going to be because there's there's unlimited

1503
01:12:01,093 --> 01:12:06,173
Speaker 2: misery out there and terrible circumstances and you know, you'd

1504
01:12:06,253 --> 01:12:08,293
Speaker 2: pay out one, then be another and then or another

1505
01:12:08,412 --> 01:12:09,932
Speaker 2: and there are another and it would be very hard

1506
01:12:09,973 --> 01:12:11,932
Speaker 2: as a person if you were in that position where

1507
01:12:11,933 --> 01:12:13,612
Speaker 2: you could just get the money out of a bank

1508
01:12:13,652 --> 01:12:15,013
Speaker 2: and give it to them to not not do it,

1509
01:12:15,093 --> 01:12:18,692
Speaker 2: but then but then you end up losing everything. And yeah,

1510
01:12:18,732 --> 01:12:20,492
Speaker 2: so I can see this, can see that that being

1511
01:12:20,492 --> 01:12:21,333
Speaker 2: a massive problem.

1512
01:12:21,452 --> 01:12:25,933
Speaker 20: So they take it John, Sorry, Yeah, but also you

1513
01:12:26,452 --> 01:12:30,652
Speaker 20: just just for their mental well being, you're just helping

1514
01:12:30,692 --> 01:12:33,692
Speaker 20: them through by setting up a structure. You can just

1515
01:12:33,732 --> 01:12:36,772
Speaker 20: help them through that process, right, and so that so

1516
01:12:36,812 --> 01:12:40,492
Speaker 20: that it's not just them feeling that angst, you know,

1517
01:12:40,612 --> 01:12:44,093
Speaker 20: and they've got that ultimate bailout, which is I can't

1518
01:12:44,133 --> 01:12:45,772
Speaker 20: make this decision. I'm going to go and have to

1519
01:12:45,812 --> 01:12:48,572
Speaker 20: talk to my whether it's a trust or whatever structure

1520
01:12:48,572 --> 01:12:52,012
Speaker 20: you've set up. So so there are oh, as you said,

1521
01:12:52,173 --> 01:12:53,772
Speaker 20: you could set up to trust, one for you and

1522
01:12:53,812 --> 01:12:57,893
Speaker 20: your can be and one for these charitable sort of outcomes,

1523
01:12:58,173 --> 01:13:01,772
Speaker 20: and then people could make applications and then yeah, and

1524
01:13:01,853 --> 01:13:04,012
Speaker 20: that's the other thing that people do do quite often,

1525
01:13:04,173 --> 01:13:06,333
Speaker 20: and that's not necessarily caught the one loss. So that's

1526
01:13:06,372 --> 01:13:09,892
Speaker 20: just because the wretch quite frankly and I've got money

1527
01:13:09,933 --> 01:13:10,293
Speaker 20: to stare.

1528
01:13:10,812 --> 01:13:13,452
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for insights, John. Yes,

1529
01:13:13,692 --> 01:13:15,492
Speaker 2: that's very very interesting, very helpful.

1530
01:13:15,732 --> 01:13:17,452
Speaker 3: High chance that the person who's going to win that

1531
01:13:17,452 --> 01:13:19,372
Speaker 3: fifty five million dollars is listening. So there you go.

1532
01:13:19,412 --> 01:13:21,733
Speaker 3: Get in touch with John right, got to play some messages.

1533
01:13:22,093 --> 01:13:23,492
Speaker 3: It is ten to three.

1534
01:13:24,173 --> 01:13:26,612
Speaker 1: The issues that affect you and a bit of fun

1535
01:13:26,652 --> 01:13:31,412
Speaker 1: along the way. Mad Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News TALKSB.

1536
01:13:31,612 --> 01:13:33,852
Speaker 3: News Talks HEB. We're talking about winning the fifty five

1537
01:13:33,853 --> 01:13:36,572
Speaker 3: million dollars. Do you have a plan in your mind

1538
01:13:36,572 --> 01:13:41,372
Speaker 3: if you are that lucky winner? Here's an interesting text, Hi, guys,

1539
01:13:41,572 --> 01:13:43,772
Speaker 3: Lotto win thought experiment. Could I pay someone to go

1540
01:13:43,853 --> 01:13:47,213
Speaker 3: jogging on my behalf then give me a blood transfusion

1541
01:13:47,293 --> 01:13:49,452
Speaker 3: so I get the benefit. Something I saw on the

1542
01:13:49,452 --> 01:13:52,532
Speaker 3: mad Max documentary is how it works.

1543
01:13:52,732 --> 01:13:56,892
Speaker 2: So what is the benefits of exercising the blood? Wouldn't

1544
01:13:56,893 --> 01:13:59,093
Speaker 2: you need the muscle growth as well? Yeah it's a

1545
01:13:59,093 --> 01:14:02,492
Speaker 2: good point. I mean, math device, you must pay someone

1546
01:14:02,532 --> 01:14:04,412
Speaker 2: for their muscles as well. Yeah, if you win, dear,

1547
01:14:04,452 --> 01:14:07,133
Speaker 2: text to let us know how that goes. Jake says,

1548
01:14:07,173 --> 01:14:09,053
Speaker 2: if I won fifty five million dollars. The first thing

1549
01:14:09,093 --> 01:14:11,412
Speaker 2: I do is buy a house in Paradise, and by

1550
01:14:11,452 --> 01:14:13,932
Speaker 2: Paradise I mean Duneda. Get a lot of house for

1551
01:14:13,933 --> 01:14:17,572
Speaker 2: fifty five million dollars in Dnedin. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Yeah,

1552
01:14:18,652 --> 01:14:22,612
Speaker 2: you get for about one point five to two million.

1553
01:14:22,652 --> 01:14:26,012
Speaker 2: You get a house with stables. Nice, yeah, horses included

1554
01:14:26,973 --> 01:14:29,532
Speaker 2: extra for the horse and yeah, yeah fair enough to Mark,

1555
01:14:29,572 --> 01:14:30,173
Speaker 2: how are you mate?

1556
01:14:31,053 --> 01:14:31,652
Speaker 7: Good a baddy?

1557
01:14:32,492 --> 01:14:36,293
Speaker 5: I've got a couple of thoughts about this loto thing.

1558
01:14:37,173 --> 01:14:41,412
Speaker 5: I've always thought that I don't believe that one person

1559
01:14:42,213 --> 01:14:49,132
Speaker 5: should win that much amount of money because of several reasons.

1560
01:14:50,133 --> 01:14:54,173
Speaker 5: I don't know how the lottery Commission work it, but

1561
01:14:54,293 --> 01:14:58,452
Speaker 5: I would suggest that maybe they gave when it gets

1562
01:14:58,572 --> 01:15:01,932
Speaker 5: this high. Why don't they have a system where it

1563
01:15:01,973 --> 01:15:08,412
Speaker 5: gets split where maybe ten or twenty people win a

1564
01:15:08,452 --> 01:15:11,572
Speaker 5: lot of money. Imagine what that would do to the

1565
01:15:11,612 --> 01:15:16,412
Speaker 5: economies that they live in. For a start, I don't

1566
01:15:16,412 --> 01:15:17,612
Speaker 5: know if it work well.

1567
01:15:17,652 --> 01:15:19,652
Speaker 2: I think I think the problem with that, though, Mark,

1568
01:15:19,812 --> 01:15:22,973
Speaker 2: is that that you know, from a business perspective or not,

1569
01:15:23,013 --> 01:15:25,452
Speaker 2: that that lotto was a business, because you know it's

1570
01:15:26,293 --> 01:15:28,973
Speaker 2: it gives the money back to the community what comes in.

1571
01:15:29,013 --> 01:15:31,492
Speaker 2: But like a fifty five million dollar. For some reason,

1572
01:15:31,812 --> 01:15:34,213
Speaker 2: five million dollars isn't good enough for people. Fifty five

1573
01:15:34,213 --> 01:15:36,293
Speaker 2: million dollars when they see that and that that that

1574
01:15:36,293 --> 01:15:38,612
Speaker 2: that there's one person is going to win that, and

1575
01:15:38,652 --> 01:15:41,253
Speaker 2: you know it and it generally is was the big

1576
01:15:41,293 --> 01:15:43,972
Speaker 2: ones according to a caller before, it means more people

1577
01:15:43,973 --> 01:15:46,852
Speaker 2: buy tickets. Just the bigger the number on the on,

1578
01:15:46,933 --> 01:15:49,412
Speaker 2: the on the win, and the more tickets they sell.

1579
01:15:49,572 --> 01:15:53,893
Speaker 2: So so they're not incentivized to split it up like that, Mark.

1580
01:15:54,612 --> 01:15:57,093
Speaker 5: Why why why aren't they.

1581
01:15:57,532 --> 01:16:00,652
Speaker 2: Well, I mean in terms of in terms of their

1582
01:16:00,853 --> 01:16:03,132
Speaker 2: KPI as a guest, in terms of selling more tickets,

1583
01:16:03,133 --> 01:16:05,972
Speaker 2: they're not. I mean that there could be, there could be,

1584
01:16:06,213 --> 01:16:09,452
Speaker 2: you know, they could be legislated to do that potentially better.

1585
01:16:11,253 --> 01:16:14,013
Speaker 5: I'd suggest maybe they need to look at that. I

1586
01:16:14,133 --> 01:16:18,532
Speaker 5: just can't understand one person and don't take me wrong,

1587
01:16:18,732 --> 01:16:22,852
Speaker 5: but that one person that whin's fifty five million dollars

1588
01:16:23,652 --> 01:16:27,652
Speaker 5: might not be may I say, the right person to

1589
01:16:27,692 --> 01:16:28,013
Speaker 5: win it?

1590
01:16:29,333 --> 01:16:30,933
Speaker 2: If you won the fifty five would you share it

1591
01:16:30,973 --> 01:16:31,772
Speaker 2: with ten other people?

1592
01:16:32,812 --> 01:16:33,492
Speaker 5: Absolutely?

1593
01:16:34,293 --> 01:16:37,013
Speaker 3: Mate, you're the best of us. Mate, get back to

1594
01:16:37,053 --> 01:16:38,852
Speaker 3: us if you win. You have some good PSA. They're

1595
01:16:38,853 --> 01:16:42,213
Speaker 3: a great discussion. Yeah me too, Mark, don't forget about us.

1596
01:16:42,532 --> 01:16:46,372
Speaker 3: Right coming up after three o'clock New Zealander of the week,

1597
01:16:46,492 --> 01:16:47,173
Speaker 3: Who will it be.

1598
01:16:50,173 --> 01:16:54,572
Speaker 1: Your new home? For Instateful and Entertaining Talk, It's Maddie

1599
01:16:54,732 --> 01:16:58,253
Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons on News Talk seven.

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01:16:59,333 --> 01:17:01,852
Speaker 3: Yeah a to you, welcome back into the show seven

1601
01:17:02,013 --> 01:17:05,293
Speaker 3: pass three. Hope you're doing pretty well on a Friday afternoon,

1602
01:17:05,692 --> 01:17:07,213
Speaker 3: so let's get into this one. This one's going to

1603
01:17:07,213 --> 01:17:10,812
Speaker 3: be a great shit so marathon tips and tracks the

1604
01:17:10,853 --> 01:17:11,372
Speaker 3: big day.

1605
01:17:11,772 --> 01:17:14,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, it's almost a right for you. That's right.

1606
01:17:14,173 --> 01:17:17,612
Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning at eight twenty I will be heading off

1607
01:17:17,652 --> 01:17:20,692
Speaker 2: to run my first marathon in Queenstown. I'm pumped up

1608
01:17:20,692 --> 01:17:22,972
Speaker 2: for you, mate, my first marathon anywhere, but it happens

1609
01:17:22,973 --> 01:17:25,053
Speaker 2: to be in Queenstown, the Queenstown Mouth on it. I'm

1610
01:17:25,053 --> 01:17:25,812
Speaker 2: excited about it.

1611
01:17:25,893 --> 01:17:26,133
Speaker 7: Yep.

1612
01:17:26,893 --> 01:17:29,173
Speaker 2: And thank you so much Tyler. You bought in a

1613
01:17:29,293 --> 01:17:32,452
Speaker 2: survival pack for me. It's got some fluid energy geels.

1614
01:17:32,572 --> 01:17:34,812
Speaker 2: Thank you for that. A chocolate brownie. It's not a

1615
01:17:34,853 --> 01:17:36,412
Speaker 2: weed brownie, is it could be?

1616
01:17:36,652 --> 01:17:36,852
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1617
01:17:36,973 --> 01:17:38,293
Speaker 3: Is that going to help you? As I said, it

1618
01:17:38,293 --> 01:17:40,612
Speaker 3: could help will hinder. So that's that's a mystery brownie.

1619
01:17:40,612 --> 01:17:42,692
Speaker 2: Well, I'll find out what brownie give me. You've got

1620
01:17:42,812 --> 01:17:44,572
Speaker 2: a bottle of bubbles for the end, You've got some.

1621
01:17:44,692 --> 01:17:46,452
Speaker 2: You've got some ice ice packs.

1622
01:17:46,772 --> 01:17:50,452
Speaker 3: Those will absolutely come in handy around.

1623
01:17:50,253 --> 01:17:52,452
Speaker 2: I'll have I'll ask Tracy to be holding those at

1624
01:17:52,452 --> 01:17:54,572
Speaker 2: the finish line. Well, me, it's a three peck as well,

1625
01:17:54,612 --> 01:17:56,093
Speaker 2: so you can do that every team. K I've got some.

1626
01:17:56,173 --> 01:18:00,572
Speaker 2: You've got me some anti chafing body body something, body

1627
01:18:00,772 --> 01:18:03,452
Speaker 2: body glide. That's huge. You got to protect the nips, yep.

1628
01:18:03,532 --> 01:18:05,692
Speaker 2: And I'll also be I've got some. You've got some

1629
01:18:05,772 --> 01:18:07,852
Speaker 2: band aids there for my nipples, which can be a

1630
01:18:07,893 --> 01:18:11,372
Speaker 2: problem when you're running. So thank you so much. But

1631
01:18:11,812 --> 01:18:17,972
Speaker 2: as I've said on the show before, I have well,

1632
01:18:18,053 --> 01:18:20,732
Speaker 2: I sort of trained for a while this year, but

1633
01:18:20,772 --> 01:18:22,812
Speaker 2: my training has really slipped in the last month, which

1634
01:18:22,933 --> 01:18:27,892
Speaker 2: seems seems like a bad thing. Yep, because you know

1635
01:18:28,013 --> 01:18:30,213
Speaker 2: the last month it's surely important. Although I talked to

1636
01:18:30,253 --> 01:18:32,652
Speaker 2: Kerry Wardam this morning who's run a few marathons, and

1637
01:18:32,692 --> 01:18:34,532
Speaker 2: she said, the best thing I possibly do is for

1638
01:18:34,572 --> 01:18:36,372
Speaker 2: my training to have slipped for the last month, because

1639
01:18:36,372 --> 01:18:39,052
Speaker 2: it means I'll be running on fresh legs. And carry.

1640
01:18:39,093 --> 01:18:43,813
Speaker 2: Wadam is a marathon expert. I think she's run five marathons,

1641
01:18:44,173 --> 01:18:46,572
Speaker 2: and on her show this morning, she had this to

1642
01:18:46,612 --> 01:18:47,573
Speaker 2: say about marathons.

1643
01:18:47,612 --> 01:18:50,412
Speaker 21: The Paris one, if you're going to do one, is amazing.

1644
01:18:51,612 --> 01:18:53,892
Speaker 21: That was my slowest one, but that was quite deliberate

1645
01:18:54,853 --> 01:18:59,172
Speaker 21: because they offer food. You start under the act trioph

1646
01:18:59,253 --> 01:19:01,372
Speaker 21: run down the shauls a les and do a big

1647
01:19:01,412 --> 01:19:06,372
Speaker 21: loop and come back under the act Triomph. They offer

1648
01:19:06,532 --> 01:19:10,412
Speaker 21: food all the way around. Had a foot massage under

1649
01:19:10,452 --> 01:19:15,412
Speaker 21: the Eiffel Tower by the Paris School of Physiotherapy got

1650
01:19:15,412 --> 01:19:22,412
Speaker 21: hosed by firefighters Pompier, which wasn't unhappy about. And then

1651
01:19:22,452 --> 01:19:25,732
Speaker 21: at the thirty six k mark the guys from Boujelat

1652
01:19:27,013 --> 01:19:31,893
Speaker 21: run and pull a keg cask of boujelais behind them

1653
01:19:33,412 --> 01:19:36,052
Speaker 21: and they don't cross the finish line until the cask

1654
01:19:36,093 --> 01:19:40,932
Speaker 21: of wine is gone, helping because of course the lovely

1655
01:19:40,973 --> 01:19:45,373
Speaker 21: Ethiopians and the African runners weren't going to stop and

1656
01:19:45,412 --> 01:19:47,933
Speaker 21: they were there to win it. I wasn't. I was

1657
01:19:47,973 --> 01:19:52,732
Speaker 21: there to help people. So I drank boujelai and a

1658
01:19:53,213 --> 01:19:58,972
Speaker 21: pattai and tererene and beautiful food, waddled back under the

1659
01:19:59,093 --> 01:20:03,452
Speaker 21: Arcta triomph about five hours later, five kilos heavier and

1660
01:20:03,532 --> 01:20:04,972
Speaker 21: completely sozzled.

1661
01:20:05,173 --> 01:20:07,412
Speaker 2: It sounds like a good time. Yeah, it sounds like

1662
01:20:07,452 --> 01:20:08,212
Speaker 2: a great marathon.

1663
01:20:08,372 --> 01:20:08,532
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1664
01:20:08,572 --> 01:20:10,972
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that kind of marathon experience before, which

1665
01:20:11,053 --> 01:20:12,852
Speaker 2: is all bubbles and pat day.

1666
01:20:12,973 --> 01:20:15,293
Speaker 3: They're not going to be dragging Central Otago pinon War

1667
01:20:15,612 --> 01:20:16,972
Speaker 3: at mile thirty thirty.

1668
01:20:17,293 --> 01:20:21,772
Speaker 2: No, I'll be running mine sober. But I'm jealous of

1669
01:20:22,612 --> 01:20:26,772
Speaker 2: Garry's experience there. But yeah, so your tip's way hundred

1670
01:20:27,333 --> 01:20:29,013
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty. When we've talked about this on the

1671
01:20:29,013 --> 01:20:31,293
Speaker 2: show before, a lot of runners have come through, and

1672
01:20:31,372 --> 01:20:34,532
Speaker 2: I think running is a fantastic thing. It's great for

1673
01:20:34,572 --> 01:20:36,093
Speaker 2: your health. I mean, it can do your knees it

1674
01:20:36,213 --> 01:20:38,772
Speaker 2: but yeah, I think I can do terrible things for

1675
01:20:38,772 --> 01:20:40,692
Speaker 2: your ankles, but it is great for your health. And

1676
01:20:40,692 --> 01:20:42,572
Speaker 2: there's a lot of runners out there in New Zealand

1677
01:20:43,213 --> 01:20:45,173
Speaker 2: and has been for a long time. So if you've

1678
01:20:45,213 --> 01:20:48,412
Speaker 2: run a marathon, love to hear your marathon stories and

1679
01:20:48,492 --> 01:20:52,492
Speaker 2: your tips. Way hundred eighty ten eighty. But now, Tyler,

1680
01:20:52,692 --> 01:20:54,692
Speaker 2: now it is ten past three.

1681
01:20:55,372 --> 01:21:00,732
Speaker 1: The Mattie than Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the week.

1682
01:21:02,333 --> 01:21:05,132
Speaker 2: Here we go again, new great New Zealanders Every Friday

1683
01:21:05,133 --> 01:21:07,253
Speaker 2: on Matt and Tyler Afternoons on News Talks, there'd be

1684
01:21:07,333 --> 01:21:10,333
Speaker 2: we name the New Zealand of the Week, a powerful,

1685
01:21:10,933 --> 01:21:13,492
Speaker 2: completely made up honor that we bestow on your behalf

1686
01:21:13,532 --> 01:21:16,173
Speaker 2: to a newsmaker who we've discussed on eight hundred and

1687
01:21:16,213 --> 01:21:18,652
Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty over the last week and has done

1688
01:21:18,732 --> 01:21:21,093
Speaker 2: good for the greatest little country on planet Earth over

1689
01:21:21,133 --> 01:21:24,572
Speaker 2: the past seven days. As always that we two runners up,

1690
01:21:24,933 --> 01:21:28,372
Speaker 2: but only one winner. Who will it be? Without further

1691
01:21:28,452 --> 01:21:32,893
Speaker 2: pissing around, This is the Mate and Tyler Adams Afternoons

1692
01:21:33,133 --> 01:21:37,372
Speaker 2: and Zealander of the Week. Our second runner up spends

1693
01:21:37,412 --> 01:21:39,692
Speaker 2: more time in the water tagging sea monsters than most

1694
01:21:39,692 --> 01:21:42,452
Speaker 2: of us spend on our phones tagging friends on Insta.

1695
01:21:43,013 --> 01:21:45,253
Speaker 2: We had a great chat with doctor Riley Elliott the

1696
01:21:45,253 --> 01:21:48,012
Speaker 2: Shark Maan on Thursday. He's brave, he's bright, he's awesome,

1697
01:21:48,133 --> 01:21:50,572
Speaker 2: and he is second runner up for New Zealander of

1698
01:21:50,612 --> 01:21:55,093
Speaker 2: the Week. Get yourself to Sustainable Oceansociety dot co, dot

1699
01:21:55,093 --> 01:21:58,732
Speaker 2: and z get the app and track bubbles, Midge Happy

1700
01:21:58,933 --> 01:22:01,772
Speaker 2: and all the other great whites and maybe cough up

1701
01:22:01,893 --> 01:22:02,492
Speaker 2: and you can.

1702
01:22:02,452 --> 01:22:03,173
Speaker 1: Name one too.

1703
01:22:05,093 --> 01:22:08,173
Speaker 2: Moving on to our first runner up. Now, after a

1704
01:22:08,412 --> 01:22:11,132
Speaker 2: solid hour of chat on the phones on the subject

1705
01:22:11,173 --> 01:22:14,732
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, we nail down the rules. When you're selling

1706
01:22:14,772 --> 01:22:17,253
Speaker 2: yourself on the street, you have to be functioning and

1707
01:22:17,333 --> 01:22:19,692
Speaker 2: clean and if no one wants you, you must go

1708
01:22:19,772 --> 01:22:23,173
Speaker 2: back inside before it gets dark, free to a good home.

1709
01:22:23,253 --> 01:22:25,772
Speaker 2: Stuff left on booms for other key Weis to pick

1710
01:22:25,853 --> 01:22:29,333
Speaker 2: up and enjoy. You are second runner up the New

1711
01:22:29,452 --> 01:22:33,293
Speaker 2: Zealander of the Week. And if for whatever reason the

1712
01:22:33,333 --> 01:22:35,612
Speaker 2: winner of New Zealander of the Week cannot fulfill their

1713
01:22:35,652 --> 01:22:39,812
Speaker 2: obligations stuff left out on booms for other Keywis to enjoy,

1714
01:22:40,173 --> 01:22:42,372
Speaker 2: you will be asked to step up and cut the

1715
01:22:42,412 --> 01:22:45,092
Speaker 2: sashes right on the floats and take up any public

1716
01:22:45,133 --> 01:22:49,213
Speaker 2: appearances needed around the honor of being New Zealander of

1717
01:22:49,253 --> 01:22:53,532
Speaker 2: the Week. Right here we go. There can be only

1718
01:22:53,572 --> 01:22:56,892
Speaker 2: one and the winner also gets the New Zealand Ministry

1719
01:22:56,893 --> 01:23:00,812
Speaker 2: of Defense Award. Last weekend this key we said year

1720
01:23:00,853 --> 01:23:04,012
Speaker 2: and a to the NASAs with a gutsy performance in Brazil,

1721
01:23:04,293 --> 01:23:07,092
Speaker 2: a mass of fifty two laps on the mediums, finishing

1722
01:23:07,093 --> 01:23:09,572
Speaker 2: at the head of a ten car six seconds spread

1723
01:23:09,652 --> 01:23:12,892
Speaker 2: dires train and dragging off and defeating as much lauded

1724
01:23:13,013 --> 01:23:18,412
Speaker 2: teammate for a powerful P seven finish the absolute exemplification

1725
01:23:18,532 --> 01:23:22,812
Speaker 2: of pure key, we grit, talent and determination. Move over, checko,

1726
01:23:23,213 --> 01:23:27,452
Speaker 2: Liam Lawson, you are now the Ministry of Defense. Bring

1727
01:23:27,452 --> 01:23:31,612
Speaker 2: on Las Vegas, then Katar, then Abu Dhabi, then back

1728
01:23:31,652 --> 01:23:34,972
Speaker 2: home to Cromwell for some hot laps for charity.

1729
01:23:35,532 --> 01:23:39,293
Speaker 22: Liam Lawson, you will get your seat soon, but for

1730
01:23:39,412 --> 01:23:43,333
Speaker 22: now here is they coveted honor of Matt and Tyler

1731
01:23:43,412 --> 01:23:46,932
Speaker 22: afternoons New Zealander of the week for.

1732
01:23:46,933 --> 01:23:48,932
Speaker 2: The second Let me good time. You've won up this year.

1733
01:23:49,213 --> 01:23:51,372
Speaker 2: Take it away, Howie Morrison.

1734
01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:09,893
Speaker 1: After seventy one, last seventh.

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01:24:08,652 --> 01:24:13,572
Speaker 22: Oh my god, at plus charge on charge on.

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01:24:14,293 --> 01:24:17,132
Speaker 2: So that's a ministry of defense of an.

1737
01:24:19,492 --> 01:24:22,772
Speaker 3: His talk said, afternoon to you. It is seventeen past three.

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01:24:22,812 --> 01:24:25,173
Speaker 3: We're talking about marathons, tips and tricks ahead of the

1739
01:24:25,213 --> 01:24:28,573
Speaker 3: big day for Matt Heath tomorrow, but also your experiences

1740
01:24:28,572 --> 01:24:29,092
Speaker 3: on marathons.

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01:24:29,133 --> 01:24:31,892
Speaker 2: You've run this, Texas says, I'm quite a big heavy fellow.

1742
01:24:31,933 --> 01:24:33,892
Speaker 2: But it's not that hard. You just keep running. It's

1743
01:24:33,893 --> 01:24:36,133
Speaker 2: no big deal. But that's the kind of advice I like,

1744
01:24:36,372 --> 01:24:39,492
Speaker 2: because it is true. It's forty two k. But you

1745
01:24:39,572 --> 01:24:43,093
Speaker 2: do just keep running yep. And so you know every

1746
01:24:43,093 --> 01:24:46,133
Speaker 2: great journey starts with the first step out the door,

1747
01:24:46,173 --> 01:24:48,852
Speaker 2: isn't it. It does. So you just got to keep running.

1748
01:24:48,853 --> 01:24:50,732
Speaker 2: So remember it's just running, mate, You've done it before.

1749
01:24:50,933 --> 01:24:53,892
Speaker 2: Just keep running, Just keep running. Forrest Gumpant.

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01:24:54,013 --> 01:25:01,652
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bruce math Hi, good mate, I'm the marathon man tomorrow.

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01:25:02,412 --> 01:25:05,812
Speaker 6: A couple of questions, Matt. How many ks have you

1752
01:25:05,812 --> 01:25:08,852
Speaker 6: got in your legs up till before you stopped? What

1753
01:25:08,893 --> 01:25:10,932
Speaker 6: were you doing a week? What were're running a week?

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01:25:11,452 --> 01:25:11,612
Speaker 16: So?

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01:25:11,772 --> 01:25:15,092
Speaker 2: I was running a minimum of ten k every second

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01:25:15,213 --> 01:25:20,692
Speaker 2: day and sometimes fifteen and the longest run round was

1757
01:25:20,692 --> 01:25:21,572
Speaker 2: about twenty eight k.

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01:25:22,572 --> 01:25:24,452
Speaker 6: Were you doing one hundred a week? Were you doing

1759
01:25:24,532 --> 01:25:25,972
Speaker 6: over about one hundred a week?

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01:25:26,652 --> 01:25:26,812
Speaker 5: No?

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01:25:27,173 --> 01:25:31,852
Speaker 2: I would have been doing about forty a week.

1762
01:25:32,692 --> 01:25:34,372
Speaker 6: Okay, how long had you been doing that?

1763
01:25:34,452 --> 01:25:34,652
Speaker 15: For?

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01:25:34,933 --> 01:25:41,173
Speaker 2: Whole year? About from sort of you know January?

1765
01:25:41,893 --> 01:25:45,812
Speaker 6: Okay, right? Yeah. A couple of things. What it's a

1766
01:25:45,812 --> 01:25:47,652
Speaker 6: bit late now. What we used to do. What we

1767
01:25:47,772 --> 01:25:51,532
Speaker 6: used to do is a thing called glycogen overshoot. And

1768
01:25:52,053 --> 01:25:55,253
Speaker 6: when we had a like a big game coming up

1769
01:25:55,293 --> 01:25:58,732
Speaker 6: with the diet, the we'd have a be given a

1770
01:25:58,772 --> 01:26:04,133
Speaker 6: diet and we'd train really hard during the week, but

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01:26:04,213 --> 01:26:08,213
Speaker 6: we wouldn't be allowed our diet would exclude no carbohydrates.

1772
01:26:09,093 --> 01:26:11,333
Speaker 6: It would all be it would all be protein. So

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01:26:12,173 --> 01:26:17,492
Speaker 6: we'd train really hard and deprive our body of carbohydrates,

1774
01:26:17,492 --> 01:26:23,372
Speaker 6: which synthesized the glycogen, which is energized as the muscle.

1775
01:26:23,452 --> 01:26:29,652
Speaker 6: Now we would stop, we'd stop our protein diet. I

1776
01:26:29,812 --> 01:26:33,173
Speaker 6: think it was about the night before and we would

1777
01:26:33,213 --> 01:26:37,293
Speaker 6: have a huge meal of potato pasta, white bread, and

1778
01:26:37,333 --> 01:26:42,333
Speaker 6: we would fully load up with carbohydrates, and our body.

1779
01:26:42,772 --> 01:26:46,213
Speaker 6: Once our body had been deprived of the carbohydrates because

1780
01:26:46,253 --> 01:26:49,173
Speaker 6: we'd had a protein diet for about five days and

1781
01:26:49,333 --> 01:26:55,692
Speaker 6: we'd been emphasizing vigorously, our body was streaming out for carbohydrates.

1782
01:26:56,412 --> 01:27:00,452
Speaker 6: So we load up on carbohydrates, and it knows that

1783
01:27:00,492 --> 01:27:02,532
Speaker 6: when that happens, the body is going to go into

1784
01:27:02,652 --> 01:27:08,132
Speaker 6: exercise mode, so it synthesizes a lot more than it needs,

1785
01:27:08,933 --> 01:27:12,413
Speaker 6: and it stores it in your legs and it counters

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01:27:12,492 --> 01:27:15,652
Speaker 6: the lactic acid which can build up towards the end

1787
01:27:15,652 --> 01:27:19,293
Speaker 6: of the race. So that's that's the thing with that.

1788
01:27:19,412 --> 01:27:23,012
Speaker 6: It's it's a pretty it has to be monitored pretty closely,

1789
01:27:23,053 --> 01:27:28,892
Speaker 6: but you don't feel it initially, but you don't feel

1790
01:27:28,973 --> 01:27:30,932
Speaker 6: what I say. You don't feel it in the short term,

1791
01:27:31,372 --> 01:27:34,053
Speaker 6: imember John Hart was one of our coaches. But you

1792
01:27:34,133 --> 01:27:36,213
Speaker 6: feel it in the long term when it comes to

1793
01:27:36,253 --> 01:27:38,693
Speaker 6: the last you know, when you really need the stamina.

1794
01:27:39,492 --> 01:27:43,452
Speaker 6: That's when you can feel the glycogen synthesis taking place.

1795
01:27:44,732 --> 01:27:49,052
Speaker 6: And as far as your marathon goes, yeah, I don't

1796
01:27:49,053 --> 01:27:56,093
Speaker 6: think you've got enough case in your legs, mate, And I'm.

1797
01:27:54,612 --> 01:27:57,213
Speaker 2: Doing it either way, Bruce, I'm doing it. I've got

1798
01:27:57,213 --> 01:27:57,652
Speaker 2: to find them.

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01:27:58,532 --> 01:27:59,772
Speaker 7: I'll give you a little tour bival.

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01:28:03,333 --> 01:28:06,172
Speaker 6: Doing a lot of case builds up a core strength,

1801
01:28:06,173 --> 01:28:08,333
Speaker 6: which means you've got to stand upright for about four

1802
01:28:08,333 --> 01:28:11,292
Speaker 6: four or five hours running, which is quite hard.

1803
01:28:11,093 --> 01:28:11,612
Speaker 4: On its own.

1804
01:28:11,652 --> 01:28:14,612
Speaker 6: And I was listening to head of this morning. She's

1805
01:28:14,652 --> 01:28:18,532
Speaker 6: done seven marathons. That's awesome, I reckon, even though she

1806
01:28:18,572 --> 01:28:20,852
Speaker 6: hasn't done one for seven years. I reckon she could

1807
01:28:20,893 --> 01:28:23,492
Speaker 6: still do sit ups with both legs in the air.

1808
01:28:24,173 --> 01:28:26,852
Speaker 6: Because if you do enough miles in the year of

1809
01:28:26,853 --> 01:28:30,133
Speaker 6: the year, you get a coarse strength that means you

1810
01:28:30,133 --> 01:28:32,572
Speaker 6: can do sit ups and that sort of thing with

1811
01:28:32,652 --> 01:28:37,172
Speaker 6: your abdomen and you don't feel if a core strength

1812
01:28:37,293 --> 01:28:42,293
Speaker 6: is built up over years of just slow exercise. The

1813
01:28:42,372 --> 01:28:46,053
Speaker 6: other thing, if this is your first marathon, the thing

1814
01:28:46,133 --> 01:28:48,812
Speaker 6: that don't stop, because as soon as you stop lactic

1815
01:28:48,853 --> 01:28:52,213
Speaker 6: acid will even even do a power walk. But you'll

1816
01:28:52,293 --> 01:28:55,293
Speaker 6: hit a thing called It may not happen, but you

1817
01:28:55,452 --> 01:28:57,973
Speaker 6: hit a thing that the marathons are famous for. It

1818
01:28:57,973 --> 01:29:02,293
Speaker 6: it's called the wall. And you can hit the wall

1819
01:29:02,333 --> 01:29:05,532
Speaker 6: between thirty and thirty six ks. It's an unreal thing

1820
01:29:06,333 --> 01:29:10,012
Speaker 6: and your body just shuts down and you just don't

1821
01:29:10,013 --> 01:29:13,292
Speaker 6: know what's going on. You actually have to drive yourself

1822
01:29:13,333 --> 01:29:14,133
Speaker 6: through it.

1823
01:29:14,133 --> 01:29:15,372
Speaker 5: It'll be something you'll never have.

1824
01:29:17,732 --> 01:29:18,532
Speaker 7: You work through it.

1825
01:29:18,893 --> 01:29:24,053
Speaker 2: You does it last like ks? Or like does it

1826
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:26,372
Speaker 2: last like twenty minutes or something like that, or is

1827
01:29:26,412 --> 01:29:28,652
Speaker 2: it to the end you work.

1828
01:29:28,492 --> 01:29:31,812
Speaker 6: Through it, it just goes yeah, you don't, You don't.

1829
01:29:32,013 --> 01:29:34,972
Speaker 6: It's there and you just sort of try and put

1830
01:29:35,013 --> 01:29:36,652
Speaker 6: it out of your mind and it's one of those things.

1831
01:29:36,732 --> 01:29:38,213
Speaker 6: You just got to puff it out.

1832
01:29:38,612 --> 01:29:39,852
Speaker 2: Just through the wall.

1833
01:29:40,732 --> 01:29:43,452
Speaker 6: This is the marathon, this is your moment, and you've

1834
01:29:43,452 --> 01:29:46,412
Speaker 6: got to not stop and just keep pushing. At the end,

1835
01:29:46,412 --> 01:29:50,013
Speaker 6: you'll feel marvelous and you'll never forget it. But just

1836
01:29:50,133 --> 01:29:53,692
Speaker 6: be prepared for the wall. Yeah, drink pretty fluids and

1837
01:29:54,412 --> 01:29:58,052
Speaker 6: don't stop power walk if you need to have a break.

1838
01:29:58,532 --> 01:29:59,933
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Bruce, I've done it. But are

1839
01:29:59,933 --> 01:30:04,372
Speaker 2: your cardbloading? Tyler Will this morning? This morning over our

1840
01:30:05,253 --> 01:30:08,012
Speaker 2: pre show coffee, Yeah, I had a bacon and egg

1841
01:30:08,053 --> 01:30:10,932
Speaker 2: pie and a huge ham toasting.

1842
01:30:11,253 --> 01:30:12,933
Speaker 3: He went all in, yeah, because I thought it was

1843
01:30:12,933 --> 01:30:14,452
Speaker 3: just the buy and I thought you're fair enough, that's

1844
01:30:14,532 --> 01:30:16,732
Speaker 3: you know, it's good on you. And then the toastings come.

1845
01:30:16,772 --> 01:30:19,693
Speaker 3: I thought, Jesus mate, you are going carloading. Yeah, that's cardboating.

1846
01:30:20,772 --> 01:30:24,692
Speaker 2: Bruce. You said you were training for John Hart obviously,

1847
01:30:24,732 --> 01:30:25,692
Speaker 2: so you're a rugby player.

1848
01:30:26,372 --> 01:30:30,333
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, we yeah, we started. He John

1849
01:30:30,492 --> 01:30:32,333
Speaker 6: was one of my coaches. He started out at white

1850
01:30:32,452 --> 01:30:35,213
Speaker 6: Manor and then went on to coach the Auckland All Blacks.

1851
01:30:35,253 --> 01:30:38,012
Speaker 6: He was He was a He was a very very

1852
01:30:38,093 --> 01:30:41,732
Speaker 6: vocal halfback. He never stopped chatting. He was like Craig Ennis.

1853
01:30:42,492 --> 01:30:45,013
Speaker 6: He would back behind the Fords all day. He was

1854
01:30:45,053 --> 01:30:49,092
Speaker 6: a nuisance. But he was actually one of the first

1855
01:30:49,133 --> 01:30:52,572
Speaker 6: coaches in the mold of Graham, of Bennett and the

1856
01:30:52,652 --> 01:30:55,732
Speaker 6: guy Maguire that's doing the Broncos really actually get more

1857
01:30:56,452 --> 01:30:59,812
Speaker 6: in demand management. They have they have guys that get

1858
01:30:59,853 --> 01:31:04,013
Speaker 6: to get the players in the peak physical conditions, but

1859
01:31:04,133 --> 01:31:08,652
Speaker 6: the coach actually develops a relationship and individual relationship with

1860
01:31:08,732 --> 01:31:12,333
Speaker 6: every one of his players on a level which is

1861
01:31:12,412 --> 01:31:16,612
Speaker 6: commensurate with where they're at their family, so that you know,

1862
01:31:16,652 --> 01:31:21,853
Speaker 6: that's why you're seeing these unbelievable performances from these specifica

1863
01:31:21,973 --> 01:31:25,093
Speaker 6: players because you know, these guys they pick up not

1864
01:31:25,173 --> 01:31:28,173
Speaker 6: only the player, they pick up the whole box and dice,

1865
01:31:28,213 --> 01:31:30,933
Speaker 6: They pick up the whole family. They look after the

1866
01:31:30,973 --> 01:31:34,452
Speaker 6: whole family and all the support, the far no support

1867
01:31:34,572 --> 01:31:38,093
Speaker 6: around that player is there with them, so they're not

1868
01:31:38,372 --> 01:31:40,692
Speaker 6: you know, they're really good players are not isolated. They

1869
01:31:40,692 --> 01:31:43,412
Speaker 6: have a lot of far no support because these are

1870
01:31:43,492 --> 01:31:45,932
Speaker 6: million dollar players. You know, these these guys are worth

1871
01:31:45,933 --> 01:31:48,933
Speaker 6: a lot of money, so you know they've got to

1872
01:31:48,973 --> 01:31:49,932
Speaker 6: look after them.

1873
01:31:50,253 --> 01:31:51,732
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, Bruce, thank you so

1874
01:31:51,812 --> 01:31:53,852
Speaker 2: much for your call, so if I can get that

1875
01:31:53,973 --> 01:31:55,972
Speaker 2: kind of full reparound support in the next twenty four

1876
01:31:55,973 --> 01:31:59,532
Speaker 2: hours before I start. There was good. Yeah, great call,

1877
01:31:59,572 --> 01:32:00,293
Speaker 2: Thank you, Bruce.

1878
01:32:01,053 --> 01:32:03,452
Speaker 3: We're going to go to the ad yeah eighty keen

1879
01:32:03,492 --> 01:32:06,092
Speaker 3: to hear your tips and strategies for running a marathon.

1880
01:32:06,133 --> 01:32:09,973
Speaker 2: It is twenty four past three.

1881
01:32:11,053 --> 01:32:14,732
Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred eighty

1882
01:32:15,013 --> 01:32:16,173
Speaker 1: eight on News Talk.

1883
01:32:16,133 --> 01:32:19,132
Speaker 2: ZB afternoon to you twenty seven past three. We'll beginning

1884
01:32:19,133 --> 01:32:21,213
Speaker 2: a lot of texts through about this marathon is ship.

1885
01:32:21,253 --> 01:32:22,812
Speaker 2: We're just going to detour away from it for a

1886
01:32:22,853 --> 01:32:25,492
Speaker 2: little bit till we get back to it, because a

1887
01:32:25,532 --> 01:32:27,612
Speaker 2: lot of people are texting through and said that our

1888
01:32:27,612 --> 01:32:31,972
Speaker 2: breakfast host is it, Mike Hosking, I believe has been

1889
01:32:33,133 --> 01:32:34,652
Speaker 2: throwing some grenades this way again.

1890
01:32:34,812 --> 01:32:37,972
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was some chetter apparently on the show this

1891
01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:43,093
Speaker 3: morning making aspersions towards yourself. Yes, I think I think

1892
01:32:43,133 --> 01:32:46,612
Speaker 3: I was kind of saved from any aspersions, right, But

1893
01:32:47,013 --> 01:32:49,012
Speaker 3: we will get the headlines out of the way, yeap.

1894
01:32:49,333 --> 01:32:52,732
Speaker 3: Play what he says, yes, and then you can defend yourself, okay,

1895
01:32:52,812 --> 01:32:54,772
Speaker 3: because yeah, it was it was pretty full on.

1896
01:32:54,772 --> 01:32:56,612
Speaker 2: I've got to say, mate, the sixth is Matt. I

1897
01:32:56,692 --> 01:33:01,053
Speaker 2: remember the hell behind Queenstown Airport sucks, but look forward

1898
01:33:01,093 --> 01:33:04,812
Speaker 2: to that. Good luck with the chafing as well. This

1899
01:33:04,933 --> 01:33:07,892
Speaker 2: person says, Matt on a marathon, don't be a hero

1900
01:33:07,973 --> 01:33:09,812
Speaker 2: in the first half, and don't be a worse than

1901
01:33:09,893 --> 01:33:13,133
Speaker 2: the second half. You'll get there even if it isn't pretty. Yeah,

1902
01:33:13,293 --> 01:33:16,772
Speaker 2: that's I think that's good advice. Go slow at the

1903
01:33:16,812 --> 01:33:18,812
Speaker 2: start because you get excited because a lot of people

1904
01:33:18,853 --> 01:33:20,612
Speaker 2: around you. And I've run a number of half marathons,

1905
01:33:20,612 --> 01:33:22,333
Speaker 2: and I get very excited at the start because there's

1906
01:33:22,333 --> 01:33:24,053
Speaker 2: so many people around you. Bit of nervous energy, and

1907
01:33:24,053 --> 01:33:26,692
Speaker 2: you come out of the blocks the fastest first k

1908
01:33:26,853 --> 01:33:30,053
Speaker 2: you've ever run in your life. Yeah, and then you're

1909
01:33:30,053 --> 01:33:32,372
Speaker 2: in the back foot all the way. I'll be coming

1910
01:33:32,372 --> 01:33:33,652
Speaker 2: out of the blocks very slowly.

1911
01:33:33,812 --> 01:33:36,372
Speaker 3: Yeah, as someone else, but I said, be a lamb

1912
01:33:36,412 --> 01:33:38,173
Speaker 3: at the start, in a line right at the ynd,

1913
01:33:38,173 --> 01:33:42,492
Speaker 3: which sounds about right right. Coming up headlines with Ray

1914
01:33:42,572 --> 01:33:44,972
Speaker 3: Lean and we are going to get back to your calls.

1915
01:33:45,013 --> 01:33:46,532
Speaker 3: We've got full boards at the moment, but keen on

1916
01:33:46,572 --> 01:33:49,133
Speaker 3: your advice if you've run a marathon. But we are

1917
01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:52,532
Speaker 3: also going to address these wild allegations that my costume made.

1918
01:33:52,412 --> 01:33:55,212
Speaker 2: Against Matt Heath. I'm interested to hear them. Twenty nine past.

1919
01:33:54,973 --> 01:34:00,772
Speaker 14: Three News Talk said the headlines with blue bubble taxis

1920
01:34:00,893 --> 01:34:02,732
Speaker 14: it's no trouble with a blue bubble.

1921
01:34:03,213 --> 01:34:07,452
Speaker 15: A refresh of police leadership after a scathing IPCA report

1922
01:34:07,532 --> 01:34:12,133
Speaker 15: displayed flows. Current Commissioner Richard Chambers spoke to media today

1923
01:34:12,173 --> 01:34:16,492
Speaker 15: about after a new police wing graduated, promising police will

1924
01:34:16,532 --> 01:34:19,732
Speaker 15: move forward and a new leadership team is expected to

1925
01:34:19,772 --> 01:34:25,372
Speaker 15: be announced by Christmas. Cases of VRE have triggered infection

1926
01:34:25,532 --> 01:34:29,173
Speaker 15: prevention measures at christ Church Hospital. There are currently two

1927
01:34:29,173 --> 01:34:32,572
Speaker 15: small outbreaks of fewer than ten patients on one ward

1928
01:34:32,853 --> 01:34:37,412
Speaker 15: with two different strains of the superbug. The Government's investing

1929
01:34:37,452 --> 01:34:42,013
Speaker 15: two million dollars to transform Dunedin into a premier cycling destination,

1930
01:34:42,452 --> 01:34:46,173
Speaker 15: announcing funding to extend a cycle trail linking Dunedin to

1931
01:34:46,253 --> 01:34:51,852
Speaker 15: Mosgeal using two historic railway tunnels. A fifty five thousand

1932
01:34:51,933 --> 01:34:55,253
Speaker 15: dollars reward for information about the killings of sea lions

1933
01:34:55,333 --> 01:34:59,333
Speaker 15: in the South Island has been extended until August next year.

1934
01:34:59,893 --> 01:35:02,532
Speaker 15: This is for information which leads to a conviction around

1935
01:35:02,572 --> 01:35:07,452
Speaker 15: two separate attacks in the Catlans and Waytaki Aside turning

1936
01:35:07,532 --> 01:35:10,452
Speaker 15: ceremony has marked the start of a multi billion dollar

1937
01:35:10,492 --> 01:35:13,692
Speaker 15: development in the Auckland suburb of Beachlands. You can read

1938
01:35:13,732 --> 01:35:16,852
Speaker 15: more at Inzaid Herald Premium. MacNaught and Matt Heath and

1939
01:35:16,893 --> 01:35:18,093
Speaker 15: Tyler Adams.

1940
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much.

1941
01:35:18,532 --> 01:35:20,772
Speaker 3: Raylan just before we get back to the tips and

1942
01:35:20,893 --> 01:35:23,333
Speaker 3: strategies for running a marathon as Matt is going to

1943
01:35:23,372 --> 01:35:25,853
Speaker 3: be doing from tomorrow morning down in the beautiful Queenstown.

1944
01:35:26,452 --> 01:35:28,973
Speaker 3: We had a few texts that alluded us to some

1945
01:35:29,013 --> 01:35:32,412
Speaker 3: allegations made on the Mike Hosking Bretforst Show. So Mike

1946
01:35:32,532 --> 01:35:34,212
Speaker 3: was on here as he always is on a Friday

1947
01:35:34,333 --> 01:35:37,492
Speaker 3: with Caton Tim very popular segment, great segment, yeah, great,

1948
01:35:37,532 --> 01:35:41,213
Speaker 3: great people. But he was talking about sneezing and being

1949
01:35:41,213 --> 01:35:44,333
Speaker 3: afflicted by hay fever while he was in the studio.

1950
01:35:44,492 --> 01:35:47,293
Speaker 3: So he went on to make this wild allegation.

1951
01:35:47,133 --> 01:35:49,093
Speaker 2: That'll be the film, will be the filth in the dust.

1952
01:35:50,133 --> 01:35:50,972
Speaker 2: It's that Matt Heath.

1953
01:35:53,652 --> 01:35:56,253
Speaker 12: Yeah, that w The proof is your honor if I

1954
01:35:56,293 --> 01:35:57,892
Speaker 12: take this to court, and don't think it's not going

1955
01:35:57,893 --> 01:36:00,532
Speaker 12: that way. Eventually, when Heath was away Heath was away

1956
01:36:00,572 --> 01:36:03,572
Speaker 12: recently for the trial duty off. I thought he's been

1957
01:36:03,612 --> 01:36:08,013
Speaker 12: finally charged, that he was actually just on jury duty. Anyway,

1958
01:36:08,412 --> 01:36:10,133
Speaker 12: I come in here in the morning and I'm thinking

1959
01:36:10,173 --> 01:36:13,412
Speaker 12: what's different and what's different is it? It's still filthy,

1960
01:36:13,492 --> 01:36:16,492
Speaker 12: but it's not as filthy, and I'm thinking, what's what's

1961
01:36:16,532 --> 01:36:18,452
Speaker 12: the common denominator here on the common nomina.

1962
01:36:20,973 --> 01:36:22,612
Speaker 2: So what was the percentage of felth though?

1963
01:36:22,652 --> 01:36:26,692
Speaker 12: Would you say thirty forty measure at forty two and

1964
01:36:26,732 --> 01:36:27,132
Speaker 12: a half.

1965
01:36:28,973 --> 01:36:31,253
Speaker 2: I'd love to see. I'd love to see your methodology

1966
01:36:31,812 --> 01:36:32,492
Speaker 2: now if we.

1967
01:36:32,412 --> 01:36:34,452
Speaker 3: Could prove it, we could see if we could find

1968
01:36:34,452 --> 01:36:36,333
Speaker 3: any of Heath's DNA inside you.

1969
01:36:37,572 --> 01:36:46,652
Speaker 12: What if that Carl and Jackie Oh show, we'd now

1970
01:36:46,692 --> 01:36:47,253
Speaker 12: be off air.

1971
01:36:49,812 --> 01:36:53,732
Speaker 2: If you're saying that's making you sneeze, that's smart. I'll

1972
01:36:53,772 --> 01:36:56,812
Speaker 2: tell you what, my goodness. We we may be filthy,

1973
01:36:56,893 --> 01:36:59,652
Speaker 2: we may leave the studio in a state, but you

1974
01:36:59,732 --> 01:37:02,933
Speaker 2: won't hear that kind of filthy comment on Matton Tyler's

1975
01:37:02,973 --> 01:37:06,372
Speaker 2: Afternoons on you still Glen seed there. Yeah, you have

1976
01:37:06,412 --> 01:37:08,052
Speaker 2: to be the number one breakfast show in New Zealand

1977
01:37:08,093 --> 01:37:10,892
Speaker 2: for a couple of decades before you can just drop

1978
01:37:11,013 --> 01:37:13,732
Speaker 2: that kind of absolute felth.

1979
01:37:13,772 --> 01:37:16,333
Speaker 3: That is absolute smart, you know, like we keep Yeah,

1980
01:37:16,333 --> 01:37:17,932
Speaker 3: we might be filthy in the studio, but we keep

1981
01:37:17,973 --> 01:37:19,532
Speaker 3: it clean on here what clean.

1982
01:37:19,412 --> 01:37:24,213
Speaker 2: Said about DNA? Yeah, and Mike and I we would

1983
01:37:24,253 --> 01:37:26,052
Speaker 2: never never on this show.

1984
01:37:26,053 --> 01:37:28,173
Speaker 3: There'd be a lot of BSA complaints coming their way,

1985
01:37:28,213 --> 01:37:29,452
Speaker 3: I think, and rightly deserved.

1986
01:37:29,452 --> 01:37:30,133
Speaker 2: How dare they?

1987
01:37:30,293 --> 01:37:31,053
Speaker 23: How dare they?

1988
01:37:31,652 --> 01:37:31,972
Speaker 24: Oh?

1989
01:37:31,973 --> 01:37:34,532
Speaker 2: But very good, that's here they do onen that's messing up.

1990
01:37:36,412 --> 01:37:38,572
Speaker 3: All right, we'll put that one to bed because we're

1991
01:37:38,572 --> 01:37:40,692
Speaker 3: going to get back to marathon tips and tricks.

1992
01:37:40,853 --> 01:37:42,572
Speaker 2: We've had so many ticks come through. On nine two

1993
01:37:42,652 --> 01:37:44,852
Speaker 2: ninety two, I man, I was seventeen years old when

1994
01:37:44,853 --> 01:37:47,092
Speaker 2: I entered christ Church half marathon and missed the turnaround

1995
01:37:47,253 --> 01:37:50,692
Speaker 2: ended up running a full marathon. Wow. See, I've worried

1996
01:37:50,692 --> 01:37:52,452
Speaker 2: because I've run a few half marathons in my time,

1997
01:37:52,492 --> 01:37:54,372
Speaker 2: and I have been worried that I'll I'll keep the

1998
01:37:54,853 --> 01:37:56,452
Speaker 2: I'll get the course wrong and end up on the

1999
01:37:56,492 --> 01:38:00,333
Speaker 2: full marathon. You know. But you know, if you don't

2000
01:38:00,333 --> 01:38:02,692
Speaker 2: notice that you've run, once you've run thirty k, you'd

2001
01:38:02,732 --> 01:38:04,652
Speaker 2: start to suggest, start to think maybe that was more

2002
01:38:04,652 --> 01:38:07,812
Speaker 2: than twenty one. I've run one marathon, the twenty ten

2003
01:38:08,452 --> 01:38:10,412
Speaker 2: a marathon. I hit the wall around the first city

2004
01:38:10,492 --> 01:38:12,772
Speaker 2: kN two hours and five minutes, last twelve k and

2005
01:38:12,772 --> 01:38:16,092
Speaker 2: one hour twenty six, three hours thirty one total. That's fast,

2006
01:38:16,572 --> 01:38:18,813
Speaker 2: three hour thirty one. I'd be very happy with that. Disappointed.

2007
01:38:18,812 --> 01:38:21,412
Speaker 2: I've never tried again, but if I did, would target

2008
01:38:21,452 --> 01:38:23,892
Speaker 2: three hours and fifteen. Yeah, you're a go get it, Brian.

2009
01:38:24,253 --> 01:38:26,293
Speaker 2: I'm running to survive that the time is not an

2010
01:38:26,293 --> 01:38:29,333
Speaker 2: issue for me. Yeah, you just want to finish. Mike.

2011
01:38:29,492 --> 01:38:31,412
Speaker 2: You've got some ideas for marathons.

2012
01:38:31,893 --> 01:38:37,293
Speaker 7: Yeah, you just listen to Boots about these, Matt.

2013
01:38:37,732 --> 01:38:40,133
Speaker 25: But I think probably more importantly, you've got to have

2014
01:38:40,173 --> 01:38:41,412
Speaker 25: your distant.

2015
01:38:41,093 --> 01:38:45,253
Speaker 2: Shorts Rod Dixon shorts, the sort of sitting up high

2016
01:38:45,293 --> 01:38:45,692
Speaker 2: at the back.

2017
01:38:46,492 --> 01:38:47,532
Speaker 23: Yeah.

2018
01:38:47,973 --> 01:38:49,213
Speaker 10: Can we look on Google you see.

2019
01:38:49,053 --> 01:38:49,372
Speaker 5: What I mean?

2020
01:38:49,532 --> 01:38:51,812
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're you glide on to make sure that there's

2021
01:38:51,812 --> 01:38:53,452
Speaker 3: no funny business when it comes to chafing.

2022
01:38:53,532 --> 01:39:00,092
Speaker 2: But yeah, are they aerodynamic? Yeah yeah, yeah, creat marathon

2023
01:39:00,492 --> 01:39:02,253
Speaker 2: great runners, a fantastic runner shorts.

2024
01:39:02,532 --> 01:39:03,612
Speaker 6: We're in the seventies and eighties.

2025
01:39:03,812 --> 01:39:07,133
Speaker 2: Yeah, they like they like a short short they Yeah.

2026
01:39:07,412 --> 01:39:09,652
Speaker 25: And you have bristly mustards as well.

2027
01:39:10,492 --> 01:39:12,173
Speaker 2: It's too late to grow the mustache, but I can

2028
01:39:12,213 --> 01:39:15,053
Speaker 2: probably get hold of I mean, to get shorts like that,

2029
01:39:15,093 --> 01:39:17,572
Speaker 2: i'd have to go into the kid section of Farmers.

2030
01:39:17,412 --> 01:39:22,292
Speaker 25: Up to the edge you're looking for, mate, Yes, thanks.

2031
01:39:22,053 --> 01:39:24,093
Speaker 2: For that, Mike, appreciate it. It's a great tap the

2032
01:39:24,173 --> 01:39:28,213
Speaker 2: Rod Dixon stubbies. Dion, You've got a bit of a

2033
01:39:28,213 --> 01:39:29,132
Speaker 2: marathon story.

2034
01:39:29,173 --> 01:39:31,173
Speaker 18: Do you I got it.

2035
01:39:31,253 --> 01:39:31,572
Speaker 5: Yeah, do.

2036
01:39:32,532 --> 01:39:33,932
Speaker 25: I'll tell a quick story and then get a little

2037
01:39:33,973 --> 01:39:34,532
Speaker 25: bit of advice for you.

2038
01:39:34,612 --> 01:39:34,972
Speaker 5: Matt.

2039
01:39:35,013 --> 01:39:38,532
Speaker 25: First of all, congratulations on taking the steps so to speak.

2040
01:39:38,612 --> 01:39:42,652
Speaker 25: It's awesome stuff. Oh thanks mate. The thirtieth birthdays in

2041
01:39:42,652 --> 01:39:44,452
Speaker 25: London and my now it's wife said to me, what

2042
01:39:44,452 --> 01:39:45,372
Speaker 25: do you want to do? I said, I want to

2043
01:39:45,412 --> 01:39:47,293
Speaker 25: run New York Marathon. She said, okay, well let's do it.

2044
01:39:47,612 --> 01:39:49,333
Speaker 25: So we trained up for it. We went in the ballot,

2045
01:39:49,532 --> 01:39:53,012
Speaker 25: and we got three months training, hardcore hunting, hardcore reagion,

2046
01:39:53,053 --> 01:39:55,972
Speaker 25: all that stuff, got really really fit and really lean.

2047
01:39:56,532 --> 01:39:58,852
Speaker 25: And then I got into the into the ballot and

2048
01:39:58,893 --> 01:40:00,612
Speaker 25: she didn't, so I said, no, we're not going to go.

2049
01:40:00,692 --> 01:40:02,852
Speaker 25: We'll go and do something else. We went around Monaco instead,

2050
01:40:02,853 --> 01:40:06,452
Speaker 25: which was just beautiful, and we were down we're training time.

2051
01:40:06,572 --> 01:40:09,133
Speaker 25: We were looking running about three th which was I

2052
01:40:09,133 --> 01:40:11,572
Speaker 25: was really happy with. My dad was a marathon runner

2053
01:40:11,572 --> 01:40:14,572
Speaker 25: and ran a sub three at altitude, which was about

2054
01:40:14,572 --> 01:40:17,612
Speaker 25: a two twenty anyway, so we've been there. On race day,

2055
01:40:17,772 --> 01:40:21,732
Speaker 25: were training it along. We get to teen miles and

2056
01:40:21,973 --> 01:40:24,333
Speaker 25: she said I've got to stop. I said, okay, stop,

2057
01:40:24,412 --> 01:40:27,772
Speaker 25: and we stopped for all of thirty seconds and I said, okay,

2058
01:40:27,812 --> 01:40:29,692
Speaker 25: I've got to keep going. And as soon as I

2059
01:40:29,732 --> 01:40:33,852
Speaker 25: took off again, I felt my knee go and we

2060
01:40:33,893 --> 01:40:37,532
Speaker 25: went from being on for about three fifteen we finished

2061
01:40:37,772 --> 01:40:40,133
Speaker 25: four twenty. Because it was just I said, I was

2062
01:40:40,173 --> 01:40:42,253
Speaker 25: hobbling by the end of it. So as Bruce said,

2063
01:40:42,333 --> 01:40:44,812
Speaker 25: don't stop. Even if you need to slow down, just

2064
01:40:44,893 --> 01:40:48,932
Speaker 25: slow down and just walk STPs for the day. Get

2065
01:40:48,933 --> 01:40:51,732
Speaker 25: there early and do a little bit of a warm up,

2066
01:40:51,812 --> 01:40:53,652
Speaker 25: light warm up and a bit of a stretch, but

2067
01:40:53,692 --> 01:40:54,533
Speaker 25: don't overstretch.

2068
01:40:54,692 --> 01:40:57,253
Speaker 2: Right warm up by a warm up do you mean

2069
01:40:57,333 --> 01:40:58,932
Speaker 2: just sort of at a little bit of a jog

2070
01:40:59,013 --> 01:41:00,692
Speaker 2: round tins, Yeah.

2071
01:41:00,973 --> 01:41:03,612
Speaker 25: Light job, yeap, just and not for too long. Made

2072
01:41:03,692 --> 01:41:06,333
Speaker 25: one minute, two minutes to stop, do a bit of

2073
01:41:06,333 --> 01:41:09,572
Speaker 25: breathing when you're in the run. It's like you said,

2074
01:41:09,933 --> 01:41:12,452
Speaker 25: don't go fast. Try to find some people to talk

2075
01:41:12,492 --> 01:41:15,333
Speaker 25: to along the way. That always makes it nice. People

2076
01:41:15,333 --> 01:41:17,372
Speaker 25: I was traveling about the same pace. You're not always

2077
01:41:17,372 --> 01:41:19,013
Speaker 25: going to stay at the same pace as somebody as well.

2078
01:41:19,013 --> 01:41:20,372
Speaker 25: Some people are going to want to go off ahead

2079
01:41:20,412 --> 01:41:22,333
Speaker 25: of you. But find people that you can have a

2080
01:41:22,372 --> 01:41:24,572
Speaker 25: conversation with and enjoy it because it really is a

2081
01:41:24,572 --> 01:41:26,333
Speaker 25: bloody good daysonately.

2082
01:41:26,572 --> 01:41:26,973
Speaker 10: I like that.

2083
01:41:27,093 --> 01:41:28,652
Speaker 2: I like the idea of I like the idea of

2084
01:41:28,692 --> 01:41:31,893
Speaker 2: it being a bloody good day as opposed to a

2085
01:41:32,093 --> 01:41:33,532
Speaker 2: torture that I used to get through. I'm going to

2086
01:41:33,532 --> 01:41:35,372
Speaker 2: look at it like you say, down and it's an

2087
01:41:35,412 --> 01:41:38,412
Speaker 2: experience and it's beautiful down there in Queenstown. So if

2088
01:41:38,412 --> 01:41:40,452
Speaker 2: I can somehow enjoy the company of other people and

2089
01:41:40,893 --> 01:41:44,133
Speaker 2: the and the the surroundings at some point in it,

2090
01:41:44,173 --> 01:41:45,253
Speaker 2: then I think that'd be a win.

2091
01:41:46,492 --> 01:41:46,852
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2092
01:41:46,973 --> 01:41:49,692
Speaker 25: I did my second third one. Sorry. I did Auckland

2093
01:41:49,732 --> 01:41:52,732
Speaker 25: for my fortieth birthday and I did zero training, absoutely none.

2094
01:41:52,973 --> 01:41:54,732
Speaker 25: My training for it was probably the four bottles of

2095
01:41:54,772 --> 01:41:58,253
Speaker 25: red wine I had the night before, and I completed it.

2096
01:41:58,253 --> 01:42:00,173
Speaker 25: I came last in my class, but that was okay.

2097
01:42:00,973 --> 01:42:03,492
Speaker 25: And it got to the halfway point and there was

2098
01:42:03,532 --> 01:42:05,492
Speaker 25: a father and son that I've been kind of running

2099
01:42:05,492 --> 01:42:06,932
Speaker 25: with and talking to a little bit along the way,

2100
01:42:07,412 --> 01:42:09,253
Speaker 25: and the sun said, I think I want to stop

2101
01:42:09,333 --> 01:42:10,692
Speaker 25: d and I just went over to them. I said,

2102
01:42:10,732 --> 01:42:13,092
Speaker 25: all you got to do is round the base twice

2103
01:42:13,213 --> 01:42:15,572
Speaker 25: and you've done your marathon, and so they took off.

2104
01:42:15,893 --> 01:42:18,333
Speaker 25: They finished well before me. I got to the finished line,

2105
01:42:18,333 --> 01:42:19,732
Speaker 25: and I said, you know what, mate, if you hadn't

2106
01:42:19,732 --> 01:42:21,612
Speaker 25: said that to us, we probably would have stopped. So

2107
01:42:21,652 --> 01:42:23,732
Speaker 25: it's all a mental game as well. When you hit

2108
01:42:23,772 --> 01:42:25,852
Speaker 25: that wall, which you may well do, just say yourself,

2109
01:42:25,853 --> 01:42:28,092
Speaker 25: all I've got to do is run to that next lampost,

2110
01:42:28,173 --> 01:42:30,133
Speaker 25: or run to that next driveway, or get this much

2111
01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:32,932
Speaker 25: further and you'll get there. Mental game.

2112
01:42:33,333 --> 01:42:35,652
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that, Din. That's that's very

2113
01:42:36,213 --> 01:42:38,013
Speaker 2: that is very uplis. I'm almost looking forward to the

2114
01:42:38,053 --> 01:42:40,333
Speaker 2: wall now. I've heard so much about it, so you know,

2115
01:42:40,372 --> 01:42:41,892
Speaker 2: people say you hit the wall. When when I hit

2116
01:42:41,933 --> 01:42:44,253
Speaker 2: the wall, it'll be like I'm hitting the wall, meaning

2117
01:42:44,253 --> 01:42:47,293
Speaker 2: a celebrity. It's here, I've hurt the war. I've heard

2118
01:42:47,293 --> 01:42:48,013
Speaker 2: so much about you.

2119
01:42:48,612 --> 01:42:50,612
Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number

2120
01:42:50,612 --> 01:42:53,653
Speaker 3: to call love to hear your marathon tips and strategies

2121
01:42:53,812 --> 01:42:55,892
Speaker 3: and coming up after the break. I've just actually looked

2122
01:42:55,893 --> 01:42:59,572
Speaker 3: it up. The percentage of people that have actually run

2123
01:42:59,612 --> 01:43:01,932
Speaker 3: a full marathon. Do you want to take a guess now,

2124
01:43:01,933 --> 01:43:04,012
Speaker 3: Matt at how many people out.

2125
01:43:03,853 --> 01:43:04,812
Speaker 2: Of people on the planet?

2126
01:43:04,853 --> 01:43:05,093
Speaker 5: Yep?

2127
01:43:05,253 --> 01:43:08,652
Speaker 2: The percentage of people yep? I for guess, yeah, have

2128
01:43:08,692 --> 01:43:12,372
Speaker 2: I guess? Tempting not even close, mate. I'll tell you next.

2129
01:43:12,372 --> 01:43:13,492
Speaker 2: That is twenty to four.

2130
01:43:14,492 --> 01:43:18,052
Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred

2131
01:43:18,053 --> 01:43:20,692
Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor Adams

2132
01:43:20,732 --> 01:43:22,133
Speaker 1: afternoons news talks.

2133
01:43:22,133 --> 01:43:25,333
Speaker 3: They'd be very good afternoon. Ju It is seventeen to four.

2134
01:43:25,372 --> 01:43:26,372
Speaker 3: Plenty texts coming through.

2135
01:43:26,612 --> 01:43:29,812
Speaker 2: Yes, so many people are saying this. There's a couple

2136
01:43:29,853 --> 01:43:33,093
Speaker 2: of things here, but from this text here go well, mate,

2137
01:43:33,093 --> 01:43:36,892
Speaker 2: don't have gels too early, only after thirty. In my thoughts,

2138
01:43:36,933 --> 01:43:38,812
Speaker 2: the gels that you give me someone your and your

2139
01:43:38,973 --> 01:43:43,532
Speaker 2: very generous run a survival track pack that you give

2140
01:43:43,532 --> 01:43:45,652
Speaker 2: meet Tyler for my marathon coll a flavored with a

2141
01:43:45,692 --> 01:43:47,612
Speaker 2: little bit of lime juice thrown in. If you want

2142
01:43:47,652 --> 01:43:49,412
Speaker 2: to see that, I just posted it to my Instagram

2143
01:43:49,412 --> 01:43:51,532
Speaker 2: Matt Heath endz on Instagram and the story just this

2144
01:43:51,612 --> 01:43:54,652
Speaker 2: beautiful pack of goodness that that Tyler gave me. Thank

2145
01:43:54,652 --> 01:43:56,852
Speaker 2: you so much. Mate. Don't have the jails to early,

2146
01:43:56,893 --> 01:43:59,133
Speaker 2: only after thirty. In my thoughts, keep your head up,

2147
01:43:59,253 --> 01:44:02,812
Speaker 2: keep your bum tacked in, not leaning over ford, find

2148
01:44:02,812 --> 01:44:05,213
Speaker 2: a mate who runs at your pace, hold you to

2149
01:44:05,333 --> 01:44:07,972
Speaker 2: the work grate, but not pushing too hard, finish strong.

2150
01:44:08,572 --> 01:44:10,972
Speaker 2: There you go. So and then this one says bum tucked.

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01:44:11,412 --> 01:44:14,173
Speaker 3: So clearly that is a strategy that a lot of

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01:44:14,173 --> 01:44:17,492
Speaker 3: people employ. How do you so you're bumming, just sucking

2153
01:44:17,492 --> 01:44:19,692
Speaker 3: your gut and I'm sort of leaning over you sort

2154
01:44:19,692 --> 01:44:21,492
Speaker 3: of got your forward straight as an air.

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01:44:21,572 --> 01:44:24,333
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. There's a bunch of people are saying that

2156
01:44:24,973 --> 01:44:26,972
Speaker 2: I've been running my whole life since Tis, but never

2157
01:44:27,013 --> 01:44:30,172
Speaker 2: mad or dumb enough to attempt a forty two k marathon.

2158
01:44:30,253 --> 01:44:34,172
Speaker 2: My advice is get a cab your muppet. Yeah, good advice.

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01:44:34,692 --> 01:44:39,412
Speaker 2: Someone here else says that it is bum tuck, bum tuck.

2160
01:44:39,452 --> 01:44:41,133
Speaker 2: So many people saying that that must be a big thing. Okay,

2161
01:44:41,133 --> 01:44:43,892
Speaker 2: I'm going to look into that. Someone is saying that

2162
01:44:43,973 --> 01:44:48,612
Speaker 2: it's this thunderstorms and bring your gummies to Queens Down. Yep,

2163
01:44:49,253 --> 01:44:50,132
Speaker 2: that's extra motivation.

2164
01:44:50,213 --> 01:44:52,652
Speaker 3: Just quickly, before we go back to the phones, I

2165
01:44:53,093 --> 01:44:55,573
Speaker 3: asked the question, what do you reckon is the percentage

2166
01:44:55,612 --> 01:44:58,532
Speaker 3: of people that have completed a full marathon? You reckon

2167
01:44:58,612 --> 01:45:01,652
Speaker 3: ten percent. There's a couple of guesses coming through zero

2168
01:45:01,732 --> 01:45:06,053
Speaker 3: point eight seven percent wrong. The calculation is a round

2169
01:45:06,053 --> 01:45:08,452
Speaker 3: about zero point zero one percent of the population and

2170
01:45:08,452 --> 01:45:09,412
Speaker 3: have completed a marathon.

2171
01:45:09,532 --> 01:45:12,333
Speaker 2: So if I complete the marathon, I'm in zero point

2172
01:45:12,492 --> 01:45:17,293
Speaker 2: zero one four. Did you say, wow, that is pretty impressive. Well,

2173
01:45:17,293 --> 01:45:19,973
Speaker 2: that's scary. That does that put pressure on you? It

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01:45:19,973 --> 01:45:22,212
Speaker 2: does a little bit. I'm sorry, mate, I'm not that special.

2175
01:45:22,973 --> 01:45:25,852
Speaker 2: Well you will be if you finished. Aaron Wels at

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01:45:25,853 --> 01:45:26,213
Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, hey, guys, great, great conversation. Quite different for a change,

2178
01:45:30,853 --> 01:45:32,133
Speaker 24: which always makes it fun.

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01:45:32,372 --> 01:45:33,372
Speaker 2: Thanks.

2180
01:45:33,933 --> 01:45:36,372
Speaker 24: Yeah, yeah, no, no, it is. It's good that you

2181
01:45:36,372 --> 01:45:39,452
Speaker 24: guys mix it up. Otherwise could get boring. Heah, it does,

2182
01:45:39,532 --> 01:45:43,412
Speaker 24: but could do. Hey, So a couple of things. Are

2183
01:45:43,452 --> 01:45:44,572
Speaker 24: you a quitter, mate?

2184
01:45:45,333 --> 01:45:48,532
Speaker 2: I'm do you know what? I'm good at? Quitting things

2185
01:45:48,973 --> 01:45:53,173
Speaker 2: like smoking and coffee and in fact, a lot of

2186
01:45:53,173 --> 01:45:54,732
Speaker 2: friends to me to say that I'm always looking to

2187
01:45:54,732 --> 01:45:57,293
Speaker 2: remove joys from my life. But I think I have

2188
01:45:57,333 --> 01:45:57,932
Speaker 2: good discipline.

2189
01:45:57,973 --> 01:46:02,253
Speaker 24: Aaron, okay, so you're not a task quitter, which is

2190
01:46:03,013 --> 01:46:06,333
Speaker 24: a good start. And then the next one is have

2191
01:46:06,452 --> 01:46:09,333
Speaker 24: you visualized finishing yet? Have you closed your eyes and

2192
01:46:09,412 --> 01:46:10,972
Speaker 24: seeing yourself across the finish line?

2193
01:46:11,013 --> 01:46:11,213
Speaker 9: I have?

2194
01:46:11,412 --> 01:46:14,293
Speaker 2: Yes? Nice, you have good good.

2195
01:46:14,133 --> 01:46:16,333
Speaker 24: That's the important one. So now my story for you,

2196
01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:20,372
Speaker 24: pretty short and sharp YEP is about twelve fifteen years ago,

2197
01:46:20,572 --> 01:46:22,692
Speaker 24: a friend of mine's mum come to stay at our house.

2198
01:46:22,853 --> 01:46:25,892
Speaker 24: It's an older mouldy lady that looks like she couldn't

2199
01:46:25,973 --> 01:46:27,933
Speaker 24: run to the gate, and she was going to do

2200
01:46:28,013 --> 01:46:30,652
Speaker 24: the New York Marathon with a group of older moldy

2201
01:46:30,732 --> 01:46:32,852
Speaker 24: ladies who none of them looked like they could run

2202
01:46:32,853 --> 01:46:35,053
Speaker 24: to the gate. And they went to New York and

2203
01:46:35,093 --> 01:46:38,052
Speaker 24: they did the New York Marathon and they all finished.

2204
01:46:38,572 --> 01:46:41,533
Speaker 24: All it is, if your time doesn't matter, you will finish.

2205
01:46:41,812 --> 01:46:44,532
Speaker 24: And just remember when you're running along that that group

2206
01:46:44,532 --> 01:46:48,412
Speaker 24: of older mouldy ladies all finished the New York Marathon

2207
01:46:48,612 --> 01:46:50,333
Speaker 24: just because they just stuck out it the whole way.

2208
01:46:50,612 --> 01:46:55,053
Speaker 2: Yeah, matez, time isn't a thing for me. It is

2209
01:46:55,133 --> 01:46:55,612
Speaker 2: just finished.

2210
01:46:57,173 --> 01:46:57,372
Speaker 6: Yep.

2211
01:46:57,532 --> 01:46:57,772
Speaker 25: Yeah.

2212
01:46:57,772 --> 01:46:59,572
Speaker 24: So yeah, yea one hundred percent got it in the bag.

2213
01:46:59,652 --> 01:47:01,732
Speaker 24: As as the other thing is is about one hundred

2214
01:47:01,732 --> 01:47:04,053
Speaker 24: thousand people know that you're doing it, so you're just

2215
01:47:04,093 --> 01:47:07,692
Speaker 24: going to get slammed next week all week. You'll deserve

2216
01:47:07,732 --> 01:47:09,572
Speaker 24: it if you don't finished, so we'll all call it.

2217
01:47:11,372 --> 01:47:14,452
Speaker 2: That's that's a great motivation eron because and that's part

2218
01:47:14,452 --> 01:47:15,932
Speaker 2: of the why I've been the reason why I've been

2219
01:47:15,933 --> 01:47:18,412
Speaker 2: so public about it. It's so when when when at

2220
01:47:18,412 --> 01:47:20,612
Speaker 2: about thirty five k, when I've got nothing left, I'll go.

2221
01:47:20,772 --> 01:47:23,253
Speaker 2: I will have to explain that I didn't deal with

2222
01:47:23,293 --> 01:47:25,213
Speaker 2: that accountability that is going to hold you on.

2223
01:47:25,853 --> 01:47:29,012
Speaker 24: There's at least one person watching you for every step

2224
01:47:29,093 --> 01:47:32,213
Speaker 24: you take after that thirty thousand everything, single step. You

2225
01:47:32,412 --> 01:47:36,813
Speaker 24: just think, okay, that's one least person that.

2226
01:47:35,692 --> 01:47:37,972
Speaker 2: Well, if you promise to absolutely rip me a new one.

2227
01:47:38,013 --> 01:47:39,532
Speaker 2: If I fail to do it, I'll think about you

2228
01:47:39,572 --> 01:47:42,133
Speaker 2: and it'll get me home. Thanks so much, eron appreciate it.

2229
01:47:42,452 --> 01:47:44,892
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is great thinking. Oh one hundred and eighty

2230
01:47:44,933 --> 01:47:45,892
Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number?

2231
01:47:45,933 --> 01:47:46,932
Speaker 1: Call Ray?

2232
01:47:47,372 --> 01:47:48,172
Speaker 2: How are you mate?

2233
01:47:49,093 --> 01:47:49,293
Speaker 26: Good?

2234
01:47:49,293 --> 01:47:49,732
Speaker 18: A mate?

2235
01:47:49,812 --> 01:47:50,612
Speaker 23: Good Taylor?

2236
01:47:50,893 --> 01:47:52,892
Speaker 2: How you doing good?

2237
01:47:52,933 --> 01:47:55,653
Speaker 23: Hey, I'm Matte. Three pieces of advice for the marathons.

2238
01:47:55,692 --> 01:47:56,492
Speaker 2: Three you're one.

2239
01:47:57,253 --> 01:48:00,892
Speaker 23: If you're drinking any alcohol, stop no alcohol between now

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Speaker 23: and finishing the race at all.

2241
01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:08,013
Speaker 2: I'll put this tequila shot down, not even one beera.

2242
01:48:08,652 --> 01:48:11,732
Speaker 23: The night before checking rosotto is always a good one.

2243
01:48:11,732 --> 01:48:15,293
Speaker 23: You want to cargo load check right, yeah, right will

2244
01:48:15,333 --> 01:48:15,732
Speaker 23: be good for you.

2245
01:48:16,412 --> 01:48:17,372
Speaker 6: Like big meal of.

2246
01:48:19,532 --> 01:48:22,052
Speaker 23: Rice, smell the night before this morning of I reckon

2247
01:48:22,133 --> 01:48:26,652
Speaker 23: go with porridge or rolled oats again carbo load. And

2248
01:48:26,692 --> 01:48:29,293
Speaker 23: the third thing, which is really important is make sure

2249
01:48:29,333 --> 01:48:33,452
Speaker 23: you stay hydrators that will stop you cramping. So the

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01:48:34,013 --> 01:48:37,653
Speaker 23: gels are good, MAT, but you also want to stay hydrated,

2251
01:48:37,692 --> 01:48:40,612
Speaker 23: so you need to drink a lot of water the

2252
01:48:40,812 --> 01:48:42,612
Speaker 23: days leading up to it, Drink a lot of water

2253
01:48:42,652 --> 01:48:44,933
Speaker 23: on the morning of it, make sure you stop at

2254
01:48:44,933 --> 01:48:47,053
Speaker 23: the water stops, and the.

2255
01:48:47,053 --> 01:48:49,333
Speaker 2: Days leading up to it. It's it's a less than

2256
01:48:49,412 --> 01:48:51,732
Speaker 2: twenty four hours away, so I better start that consuming

2257
01:48:51,772 --> 01:48:53,612
Speaker 2: of water now, yep.

2258
01:48:53,652 --> 01:48:56,173
Speaker 23: And make sure you're drinking water on the run, mat

2259
01:48:56,213 --> 01:48:59,372
Speaker 23: because once you once you get it over probably half

2260
01:48:59,412 --> 01:49:03,173
Speaker 23: marathon distance, if you're not hydrated, your muscles be much

2261
01:49:03,173 --> 01:49:05,253
Speaker 23: more likely to cramp. Those are pray the best three

2262
01:49:05,253 --> 01:49:06,253
Speaker 23: of things I can tell you.

2263
01:49:06,333 --> 01:49:09,652
Speaker 2: Yeah, that I mate, thank you so much for that device. Ray.

2264
01:49:09,933 --> 01:49:11,612
Speaker 2: I've written those down and I'm going to I'm gonna

2265
01:49:11,612 --> 01:49:14,452
Speaker 2: start hydrating as soon as the show's over and I

2266
01:49:14,452 --> 01:49:17,053
Speaker 2: won't have these takida shots. So oh, thank you for

2267
01:49:17,133 --> 01:49:19,372
Speaker 2: you mate. That is great, And I've already started the

2268
01:49:19,372 --> 01:49:21,412
Speaker 2: carbloading as we saw at lunch today.

2269
01:49:21,452 --> 01:49:24,053
Speaker 3: Tyler, yep, Hey, there's actually a text that's comes through

2270
01:49:24,053 --> 01:49:25,013
Speaker 3: from Kerrey Wooden for you.

2271
01:49:25,213 --> 01:49:27,333
Speaker 2: Oh he's it. Yep, A great New Zealander. Yeah, great

2272
01:49:27,333 --> 01:49:27,852
Speaker 2: New Zealander.

2273
01:49:27,853 --> 01:49:29,333
Speaker 3: I'll read it out and says good a Matt I

2274
01:49:29,452 --> 01:49:32,772
Speaker 3: ran Queenstown at fifty worth double if boobs and a

2275
01:49:32,772 --> 01:49:36,452
Speaker 3: big tummy. Neva Ridaman who ran Queenstown and a howling blizzard.

2276
01:49:36,612 --> 01:49:39,612
Speaker 3: If you feel like stopping, just remember that she's a

2277
01:49:39,612 --> 01:49:40,012
Speaker 3: good woman.

2278
01:49:40,532 --> 01:49:43,412
Speaker 2: I love that I'm at season running here. Bum tuck

2279
01:49:43,492 --> 01:49:46,972
Speaker 2: means when you're running, push forward with your butt. It's helpful,

2280
01:49:46,973 --> 01:49:49,572
Speaker 2: and that it helps keep good form and not fatiguing

2281
01:49:49,572 --> 01:49:52,532
Speaker 2: so much. Also importantly, above all, ourse enjoy yourself. Such

2282
01:49:52,572 --> 01:49:55,692
Speaker 2: a great camaraderie amongst the other runners and spectators. Best

2283
01:49:55,732 --> 01:49:57,572
Speaker 2: of luck, Thanks Linda, appreciate that.

2284
01:49:57,652 --> 01:49:57,852
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2285
01:49:57,933 --> 01:49:58,133
Speaker 24: Nice.

2286
01:49:58,133 --> 01:50:00,972
Speaker 2: So we got time for Maverick. I think we do, Maverick.

2287
01:50:01,053 --> 01:50:03,053
Speaker 2: Are you doing pretty good?

2288
01:50:03,053 --> 01:50:08,333
Speaker 26: Mate? I've rand the Princhit chelenge around Lake nineteen eight

2289
01:50:08,532 --> 01:50:15,333
Speaker 26: two one and only under prepped like to you. And

2290
01:50:15,692 --> 01:50:19,253
Speaker 26: there's a ten dollar bit with my Australian boss three

2291
01:50:19,853 --> 01:50:20,412
Speaker 26: hunts for you.

2292
01:50:21,133 --> 01:50:21,412
Speaker 2: Yep.

2293
01:50:23,412 --> 01:50:27,213
Speaker 26: Make sure that paraground of thirty kilometer mark you've got

2294
01:50:27,253 --> 01:50:28,492
Speaker 26: someone waiting for you with.

2295
01:50:30,053 --> 01:50:31,932
Speaker 7: Still Coca cola flat Coca cola.

2296
01:50:31,973 --> 01:50:34,253
Speaker 2: Okay, I've heard about this because because of the sugar.

2297
01:50:35,333 --> 01:50:36,973
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, you'll be craving for it.

2298
01:50:37,133 --> 01:50:41,333
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ok, I'll see if Tracy will do that for me, tack.

2299
01:50:41,253 --> 01:50:48,652
Speaker 26: And behind a tight backside. It'll take your mind off

2300
01:50:48,652 --> 01:50:53,732
Speaker 26: the pain. And the third one is face yourself. Don't

2301
01:50:53,732 --> 01:50:56,532
Speaker 26: get offended when sat old ladies pass you.

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01:50:57,893 --> 01:50:58,173
Speaker 10: Yep.

2303
01:50:58,293 --> 01:51:01,173
Speaker 2: Okay, thank thank you so much. I'll write those ones down. Yeah.

2304
01:51:01,253 --> 01:51:02,932
Speaker 2: I mean that's the thing. Not getting out the gates

2305
01:51:02,933 --> 01:51:06,293
Speaker 2: too fast. That's because you want to want to start

2306
01:51:06,293 --> 01:51:06,812
Speaker 2: off slow in.

2307
01:51:06,893 --> 01:51:09,772
Speaker 3: Fast yep, yep, start like a lamb, in like a lion. Yeah,

2308
01:51:09,772 --> 01:51:10,852
Speaker 3: that's someone takes through.

2309
01:51:10,973 --> 01:51:14,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah absolutely. Oh man, Hey, thank you so much

2310
01:51:14,093 --> 01:51:18,612
Speaker 2: for all your lovely texts of support and also your

2311
01:51:18,612 --> 01:51:21,293
Speaker 2: abuse and the promises of abuse if I don't do it. Yeah,

2312
01:51:21,293 --> 01:51:23,053
Speaker 2: And I'm going to be thinking about those texts on

2313
01:51:23,133 --> 01:51:24,892
Speaker 2: nine two and two saying that you're going to rip

2314
01:51:24,933 --> 01:51:27,612
Speaker 2: me and humiliate me and abuse me next week if

2315
01:51:27,612 --> 01:51:28,133
Speaker 2: I don't do it.

2316
01:51:28,213 --> 01:51:29,732
Speaker 3: Out of all the tips that came through, I think

2317
01:51:29,732 --> 01:51:31,572
Speaker 3: that's the one that is going to get your home.

2318
01:51:31,612 --> 01:51:35,492
Speaker 2: Maruph and Carrie saying that you know, yeah that was

2319
01:51:35,492 --> 01:51:37,213
Speaker 2: good too. I'll be thinking about her and Neva while

2320
01:51:37,213 --> 01:51:38,612
Speaker 2: I'm running as well. I'll print that off for you.

2321
01:51:38,772 --> 01:51:40,572
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but go well mate, right, we're going to

2322
01:51:40,612 --> 01:51:42,612
Speaker 3: wrap this all up very shortly.

2323
01:51:43,412 --> 01:51:46,133
Speaker 2: Stand by, we'll be back very very soon. It is

2324
01:51:46,213 --> 01:51:46,932
Speaker 2: eight minutes to four.

2325
01:51:47,732 --> 01:51:51,213
Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and

2326
01:51:51,452 --> 01:51:55,572
Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used talks.

2327
01:51:55,612 --> 01:51:58,293
Speaker 2: It'd be well that brings us the end of the week.

2328
01:51:58,333 --> 01:52:01,692
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. Everyone loved our chats today.

2329
01:52:01,732 --> 01:52:02,772
Speaker 2: It's been a great old time.

2330
01:52:03,013 --> 01:52:05,892
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we get so many great keywis ringing into

2331
01:52:05,893 --> 01:52:07,253
Speaker 3: the show that we pick a caller of the week

2332
01:52:07,293 --> 01:52:09,173
Speaker 3: each week, and this week we were discussing where the

2333
01:52:09,173 --> 01:52:11,333
Speaker 3: billionaires should exist and had a great call from a

2334
01:52:11,372 --> 01:52:13,173
Speaker 3: young guy called Matt, who thought we just needed to

2335
01:52:13,173 --> 01:52:16,293
Speaker 3: put some things into perspective when we demonize those who

2336
01:52:16,333 --> 01:52:17,733
Speaker 3: have been incredibly successful.

2337
01:52:17,973 --> 01:52:21,093
Speaker 27: I'm not a wealthy person, but I'm not gonna say, oh,

2338
01:52:21,173 --> 01:52:23,173
Speaker 27: look at that rich guy, I should have some of

2339
01:52:23,213 --> 01:52:25,412
Speaker 27: his money, like I just don't see it like that.

2340
01:52:25,692 --> 01:52:28,692
Speaker 27: I was raised in West Africa, so you are living

2341
01:52:28,973 --> 01:52:32,772
Speaker 27: someone else's dream, I promise you, man. And if you

2342
01:52:32,812 --> 01:52:35,253
Speaker 27: want to wake up in the morning and forget that

2343
01:52:35,572 --> 01:52:38,492
Speaker 27: and just be a bitter, twisted, upset person.

2344
01:52:38,572 --> 01:52:39,052
Speaker 23: I can't.

2345
01:52:39,213 --> 01:52:42,532
Speaker 27: I can't anymore. I personally wake up in this country

2346
01:52:42,612 --> 01:52:45,652
Speaker 27: every day and I'm really, really, really rich.

2347
01:52:46,293 --> 01:52:46,492
Speaker 7: Wow.

2348
01:52:46,612 --> 01:52:50,093
Speaker 2: What hiosophy. Yeah, what a great call from a good man. Hey,

2349
01:52:50,093 --> 01:52:53,213
Speaker 2: the great and powerful Heather, Do see Allen is up next.

2350
01:52:53,452 --> 01:52:55,892
Speaker 2: But Tyler, my good buddy, tell me why am I

2351
01:52:55,893 --> 01:52:56,572
Speaker 2: playing this song?

2352
01:52:56,772 --> 01:52:59,412
Speaker 3: Oh by the great Cindye Law for is this money

2353
01:52:59,492 --> 01:53:00,253
Speaker 3: changes everything?

2354
01:53:00,452 --> 01:53:00,812
Speaker 2: It is?

2355
01:53:00,933 --> 01:53:04,492
Speaker 3: Ah, yes, because we had that fantastic chat about fifty

2356
01:53:04,492 --> 01:53:09,012
Speaker 3: five million buckaroos must when Jack Bart sat today.

2357
01:53:08,333 --> 01:53:10,452
Speaker 2: One's going to win fifty five million this weekend and

2358
01:53:10,492 --> 01:53:14,532
Speaker 2: that money is going to change everything. Well, I'm running

2359
01:53:14,532 --> 01:53:17,733
Speaker 2: a marathon, as we've been talking, this weekend in Queenstown.

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Speaker 2: So if anyone's got any fare thoughts and prayers for

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Speaker 2: me yep, then yeah, father my way blood, you need

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Speaker 2: them one day tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 3: Meet him at the finish line. Give a heaps, mate,

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Speaker 3: go well, I know you'll smash it. I'll be watching

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Speaker 3: them from the company of my couch.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, but it's going to be awesome.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 2: That's maybe the last twenty four hours that I can

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Speaker 2: still walk. Have a great weekend.

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