1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Craig Parker's back in the country Shortened Street Lord of 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: the Ring Spartacans take your pick. He's currently filming something 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: secret and it's also appearing at the Armaged and Expo 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: this weekend. Anyway, Craig Parker as well, it's very good 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: morning to you, Good morning to you, and delightful to 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: meet you. It seems. It seems one of those weird 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: things that I've been around a long time and you've 8 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: been around a long time, and yet we have never met. 9 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: We've never met, so we're rectifying it now. What do 10 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: you hear filming? 11 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: I can't say. 12 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: Is it super cool? 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: It was very lovely to be asked and it was 14 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: very lovely to do. It's all done now. 15 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: It was finished. Yes, yes, So have you seen it? No? 16 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: I haven't. Do you have a suspicion as to whether 17 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: it could be brilliant? 18 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: It'll be amazing, Will it be one of the best 19 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: things has ever been on television in this country? 20 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: So it's a TV thing? Yes, it is okay, funny drama, 21 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: oh everything. What's the secrecy about? 22 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: It's nothing particularly exciting it it's just. 23 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: It's just that that it is. It is better for 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: it to remain remain okay, fair enough to well, I'm 25 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: glad you had a good time. How much time you've 26 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: been back here these days? 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: The last time I was back was two Christmases ago, 28 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: and then before then I hadn't been back throughout COVID, 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: So the idea of being in a room for two 30 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: weeks by myself was fair enough. I every few years 31 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: I try and come back, and ideally so my parents 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: down south, so if I can do Christmas with them 33 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: and then have a month in Auckland in January, which. 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Is the best. 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it's one of the best places on earth to 36 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 2: be and it escapes. I live in Los Angeles where 37 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: we don't really have weather, but January is a bit 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: wet and a bit slightly colder than yes and normal, 39 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: so it's kind of nice to escape. 40 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: So you are an American now, I am an American. 41 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: I got my citizensship this year, no last year. 42 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: So to explain to everyone, because I ask everyone the 43 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: same questions when they come and when they do what 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: you do? So you go there on a beza and 45 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: you get to work and that spine and if things 46 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: go well, you then get maybe a green card, which 47 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: you've got and then then you've become a citizenship. But 48 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: a citizen is a conscious decision, though, isn't it as 49 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: opposed to being able to merely be there and work. Yes, and. 50 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: There is a slight difference in that the green card 51 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: gives you, you know, absolute everything except voting and one 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: other thing which I never recall. But you have to 53 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: remain in the country. You have to be in the 54 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: country a certain amount of time each year, and you 55 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 2: can't then go away working in another country for nine 56 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 2: months a year and then come back. It's difficult where 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: if you become a citizen, it's I can come and 58 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 2: go as I please. The difference is you pay tax 59 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: there for the rest of your life or you put 60 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 2: in a tax return. And I think they can call 61 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: you up into the militia if they go to war. 62 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: You know, in America may well have it. I suspect 63 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 2: I've aged out of that risk. 64 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: What is it about America that made you want to 65 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: invest to that extent. 66 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: I had lived in London for a long time, which 67 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: I absolutely loved, but the industry there is difficult if 68 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: you're not English. 69 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: I think England is difficult if you're not English. 70 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: England is difficult I grew up in Fiji, so New Zealand, 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 2: you know, is very much home. But I've never I've 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: never needed a place to be home. Home is a 73 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: collection of friends or where I want to be. So 74 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: that freedom in England, we're slight. I found I was 75 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: there was a freedom from their integral class system and 76 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: what school you went to and all that thing. We 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: sort of get to skate through that because we're not 78 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: even in competition for that. But it's a wonderful place. 79 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: It's just it's a bit grim. So you talk to 80 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 2: people about you know, I'd have a meeting with my 81 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: manager or agent there and they'd be like, oh, it's terrible, darling. 82 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 2: It's you know, it's all awful. There's nothing going on 83 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: at all. You know, it was booming industry. But you 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: go to America and it's actually when you first arrived 85 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: there and you know, you go to meetings everywhere, so 86 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: everyone wants to meet anyone new just in case there 87 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: and everyone is so god damn positive. They're like, oh, 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: we're so glad you're here. It's amazing, We're going to 89 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 2: do great things. I can't wait to work with you. 90 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: So you it's you know, and it's it's rubbish, but 91 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: it's that positivity is amazing and and it really is 92 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: a place for this industry where you know, things are 93 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: changing a bit now, but there was a sense of 94 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: anything as possible. And and also it was a large 95 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: enough market that you are in one successful show, you 96 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: make enough meaning to be safe. 97 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: For a while. That's the story of America, though, isn't 98 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: it anything as possible? 99 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: Anything as possible? It's I'm not sure how real that 100 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: story is any more real for you. Yes it is, 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: but there is there is a you know, every country 102 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 2: has its own myth and its own idea of itself, 103 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: and often that's slightly outdated. I but there is greater possibility. 104 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: It's just a very big place. It's and California is 105 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: different to a lot of you know, it's Europe. It's 106 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: a whole lot of different countries all shoved together pretending 107 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: to be one country exactly. 108 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: So you can't tell us what you were here filming. 109 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: That's fine, But you are here for the Alma Gidden thing. 110 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: Just let me get into that by talking about Lord 111 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: of the Ring Spartacans that whole world. How did you 112 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: get into it? And did you partially answer the question 113 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: by saying, once you get and it leads to a 114 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: whole bunch of other stuff. Anyway, Absolutely it was. 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: There was a show Hercules, yes, and there was a 116 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: show Zena and Young Herk and a number of sort 117 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: of robbed hap at one great producer came to New 118 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 2: Zealand to use New Zealand's environment and for fantasy, and 119 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 2: they were campy and they were silly, but they became 120 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: big money shows for New Zealand. We hadn't been used 121 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: to any of those budgets, and you know, the shows 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: were pretty crappy, but it was suddenly a different way 123 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: of working. So all of New Zealand's crew and all 124 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: of Auckland, at least Crewe and actors all were on 125 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 2: the show at some stage. And as an actor, you 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: would you would be invited back, you know, every couple 127 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: of weeks, and you put a different wig on, a 128 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: different thing to be someone else. Terrible accents, terrible acting, 129 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: a lot of things like that. But it gave us 130 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: all the taste of that, and I think it was 131 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: the beginning of New Zealand being seen as a great location, 132 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: particularly for fantasy stuff from overseas. 133 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: Do excuse my ignorance because I don't know any of 134 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: the names of the people who are coming to apart from 135 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Jason MMU obviously everyone knows him. But the other people 136 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: that are coming are they within the. 137 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: World, I don't know anyone. So often you you know, 138 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: I do quite a few of these things, and it's 139 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: like school camp, you know, over the weekend you get 140 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 2: a little gang of friends from the guests. 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: You don't underplay it because we had do you know 142 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: the name Robert Patrick? Yes, yeah, right, so he does 143 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. So he turns out I'd never met him. 144 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Reachns it to be nice at Gloving. A lot of 145 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: nice to go in the world. So this whole thing 146 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: of going to armageddon's around the world. This is an industry. 147 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: It is it's absolutely time industry, and it. 148 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Is a I it's easy to be cynical about these things, 149 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: but they are actually I love them. They are a 150 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: place where, for all different reasons, people who love a 151 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: show or a genre of shows come together and you 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: get to meet people. When we make a show, it's 153 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 2: about the making of the show. Well for me anyway, 154 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 2: it's the kindy folk aspect of it. And you know, 155 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: you have a home viewer in mind. But the process 156 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: for me is all about the making of it, and 157 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: you sometimes you forget that other people out in the 158 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: world watch it, which is a good thing because it 159 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: pays our bills. But these events you get to meet 160 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: people who really love the stuff you've done, and it's 161 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: it's not an ego thing where you're going, I'm amazing. 162 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: These people want to meet me. They want to meet 163 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: you because you are part of some world they love. 164 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: And with Lord of the Rings those I'd never read 165 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 2: the books as a kid. I didn't know the value 166 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: of those stories. And twenty years later still people are coming, 167 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: largely for Lord of the Ringstone. 168 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: We would you have inhabited of ice? Do you? Twenty 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago? Here's here some fantastical stuff that 170 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: could you could be into as an actor. Would you 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: be going, Well, that's not really familiar. I've gotten bitter 172 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: ideas or once you immersed yourself and you couldn't believe 173 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: your luck, we. 174 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: Couldn't believe the luck. And also I love those There 175 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: is something about fantasy worlds that there is something operatic 176 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 2: and wonderful. You get to you know, if you're going 177 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: to hate, you really hate, if you're going to love 178 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 2: you really love you can you can really sort of 179 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: have a good time with it. So I do like 180 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: those worlds and you can get it in a realistic setting. 181 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: Every show has to define its own universe, even if 182 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: it apparently is this universe, it's not. It's always a 183 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: universal in the show, and within the fantasy worlds you 184 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: get to play some really fun stuff. 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: So is it original? And the reason I say a 186 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: report the other day, post the strike in Hollywood, production's 187 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: gone down. 188 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 2: Terrible exactly eighty percent less. 189 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: Exactly, so they don't make. What they are making is 190 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: all remakes of remakes. There is not an original idea left. 191 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: So is what you're doing an original idea or just 192 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: an offshoot of the same thing. 193 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: Well, there's the idea that there is no original ideas. 194 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: It's it's the five stories that we retell. But what 195 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: has happened is it's I think there's a number of things. 196 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: There is that sort of eighties that happened with it manufacturing. 197 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: There is an asset stripping going on throughout the studios, 198 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: and Hedge funds own most of I think it's seventy 199 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: percent of the studios are owned by Hedge funds now 200 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: and hedge funds don't grow anything. They shove a hole 201 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: lot of capital in somewhere, they strip as much return 202 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: from that, and then they back off with their I said, 203 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: back with their capital, and they leave ruins behind. So 204 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: we're sort of going through that change. And we're also 205 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 2: going through a stage where you pay j Lo two 206 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars to do five films for Netflix. You 207 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: don't really care how good they are because it's Netflix, 208 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: so everyone tunes in that night. I think they had 209 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: half a billion people tune into some robot thing and 210 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: you know, she's great. People in it are great. It 211 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: was terrible, but it doesn't matter because this you don't 212 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: need them the next night. You just need that one 213 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: metric amazing. And it's heartbreaking. But I think, you know, 214 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: there's still some of the most creative people in the 215 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 2: world are working out of that place, and they will 216 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: find a way to make good stories. I think there 217 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: are still good stories being told, but there's just a 218 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: lot of drafts at the moment as well. 219 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: One more question about being a US citizen, will you vote? Well, absolutely, 220 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: you've decided yes, even in California. I suspect I know 221 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: which way you both that doesn't really matter. But in 222 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: California it's amict. 223 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: I suspect, yeah, my vote will not really alter what 224 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: California is going to do. But I still the fact 225 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 2: that I can vote is an incredibly powerful thing for me. 226 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: I think, you know, I I wish everywhere it was 227 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: compulsory to vote, all right. I wish people took a 228 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: vote the value of a vote serious process serious, or 229 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 2: took the process serious. Yeah. And also and I absolutely 230 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: get it, there are people who go it doesn't make 231 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 2: any difference which way I vote, because there's a whole 232 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 2: lot of people who you know, never really benefit. But 233 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: but for me, it's I love it. I got to vote, 234 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: I think in more sort of local things. 235 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: Last year. Do you vote in props? In props? 236 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 2: I do, But it's it's so confusing the system there is. 237 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: You know, whenever there is a Prop fifty five, it's 238 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 2: like vote no one to say yes to reject the 239 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: proposal that you agree with, and you have you know, 240 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: you have to. So there is certain amount of things 241 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: that you just you find a newspaper that you trust 242 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 2: or you that aligns with your thoughts, and there's a 243 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 2: whole lot of you know the dog you vote for, 244 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: the dog catcher, or the local librarian assessment and stuff. 245 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: So Carrie Kerry, you were embracing her in a way 246 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: that I've really seen. Is there something you want to 247 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: tell us about? 248 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 2: I love carry Woodham more than anything. We we met 249 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: each other years ago in the disgraceful days in Wellington 250 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 2: of Heredisa and I love her, and she and I 251 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: lived together for a wee while. 252 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: Stop and I didn't even know. I just thought these two. 253 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 2: Know each other. No, I adore her. I haven't done 254 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: it for a few years. 255 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: Good will you go catch up with him? Good to 256 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: make you nice to talk? 257 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: Loving me? Thanks for talking, Craig Parker. 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