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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine

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Speaker 1: from newstalk edb.

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Speaker 2: A century by rich and Ravender has put New Zealand

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Speaker 2: in a strong position after three days of the first

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Speaker 2: cricket Test against India. In being Galaru, New Zealand four

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Speaker 2: hundred and two in their first innings, India two hundred

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Speaker 2: and thirty one for three in their second innings. It

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Speaker 2: stumps on day three and as I just mentioned, a

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Speaker 2: wicket on the very last ball of the day, Hey's

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Speaker 2: Daron match. It's Darren as they're all celebrady, the fingers

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Speaker 2: gone up. Can you imagine you've thought you'd seen it

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Speaker 2: all in a Test Test match cricket? Who writes the

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Speaker 2: scripts for Test match cricket? It's ended in the tragedy

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Speaker 2: for India. Former Black Caps coach Mike Keeson joins us

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Speaker 2: to unpack this. Hees it feels like New Zealand are

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Speaker 2: ahead in this Test match. How do you assess their

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Speaker 2: ability to go on and win it?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Look, they're certainly well ahead in the Test match.

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Speaker 3: I mean an outstanding first couple of days to be fair.

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Speaker 3: But but we've also seen how the last sort of

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Speaker 3: two to three hours. How the game can change so quickly,

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Speaker 3: So even though they're ahead, probably takes you know, one

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Speaker 3: innings of good batting from India. You know, you can

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Speaker 3: potentially score one hundred and fifty hundred and sixty runs

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Speaker 3: in a session and then you're going to have to

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Speaker 3: bat the fourth innings. So yeah, New Zealand has been

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Speaker 3: excellent so far. But yeah, there's certainly there'll be no complacency,

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Speaker 3: that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: What do you think their bowling plan will be on

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Speaker 2: Day four?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think it's going to have to be denial.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the way you take wickets in

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Speaker 3: India is when it's flat and they're scoring at a rate,

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Speaker 3: you know, close to a run a ball. You know

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Speaker 3: they are feeding off the I guess the ego of

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Speaker 3: you know, basically taking the game away from you so

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Speaker 3: and then hopefully you get a little bit fearful and

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Speaker 3: then you go searching and that's kind of what an

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Speaker 3: India are praying on. So I think from a New

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Speaker 3: Zealand perspective, you've got to be really disciplined. You've got

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Speaker 3: then you will create opportunities certainly not as quickly as

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Speaker 3: they did in the first innings because you know, condition

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Speaker 3: world allow that. But it's going to be a real,

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Speaker 3: real perseverance day for New Zealand today.

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Speaker 2: Will it be a mix do you think, Mike of

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Speaker 2: seam and spin or will it be mainly spin? What's

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Speaker 2: your take on that.

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Speaker 3: I think you've you've probably got to lock in a

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Speaker 3: spinner at one end. I think you know, they took

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Speaker 3: Patel down, especially Safrez yesterday, so you know he didn't

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Speaker 3: bowl as much as he wanted, but I think between

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Speaker 3: him and Phillips at one end and then rotate your

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Speaker 3: three seemas from the other with there's a little bit

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Speaker 3: more variable bounce.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, they're going to have.

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Speaker 3: To use those resources carefully and probably rotate pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: OULD think from the semas just sort of short two

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Speaker 2: What did you make of that crazy first day?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it was a bit of a There was a

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Speaker 3: collection of events really. I mean obviously the you know

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Speaker 3: that when they did the review they talked about how

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Speaker 3: or the pitch review they talked about how dry it

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Speaker 3: was underneath it was a little bit tacky, but you know,

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Speaker 3: both captains were going to bat so you know, we'd

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Speaker 3: be certainly having a different conversation if Tom Lais had

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Speaker 3: won the Tyson and the Test match was over pretty much.

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Speaker 3: So in the end, I think both sides probably misunderstood

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Speaker 3: the conditions. The fact it was a bit of a

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Speaker 3: so went back under covers sort of allowed that whole

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Speaker 3: seems certainly capitalized on it.

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Speaker 2: Ruch and Ravendra he's scored the first century by a

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Speaker 2: he go on to be for New Zealand?

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Speaker 3: Well, only his ninth Test match and you know we've

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Speaker 3: you know, sure we talk about his technique and his

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Speaker 3: it was his decision making and that's what's going to

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Speaker 3: if he can keep that decision making nice and clear

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Speaker 3: And you know, you don't want to say how good

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Speaker 3: better than we even think. But he is exceptional. He's

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Speaker 3: got a fantastic technique and all round game and as

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Speaker 3: I said, just there's clearitly a thought yesterday was outstanding.

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Speaker 2: What did you make of the captaincy change after the

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Speaker 2: Sri Lankan Test matches.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know I've spoken about it. I was a

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Speaker 3: bit frustrated that Tim was put in that position. I

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Speaker 3: think when you're already told that you're not a guaranteed

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Speaker 3: to be in the eleven, I can't see how you

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Speaker 3: can then be named captain. And that put Tim in

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Speaker 3: a difficult situation, you know, sitting in those selection meetings

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Speaker 3: knowing that potentially he's not going to play those games.

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Speaker 3: So look, I think he did the right thing, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think it'll work well. I mean, Tom's a very

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Speaker 3: big leaders in the group and it just takes that

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Speaker 2: Watching Matt henry On on that first day, which actually

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Speaker 2: it just seemed incredible to me like that, you know,

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Speaker 2: he said on the sidelines for two test matches in

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Speaker 2: Tri Lanka. I know we can't go back and rewrite

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Speaker 2: the past, but it kind of brought home in stark

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Speaker 2: reality that our best seam bowler at the moment is

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Speaker 2: Matt Henry and he couldn't get a game in Sri Lanka.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but in Sri Lanka it never seemed at all.

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Speaker 3: So you don't really want seam bowlers in India. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: in Sri Lanka, I mean, Benglaru was very odd in

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Speaker 3: terms of the fact that it seemed, and I think

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Speaker 3: the second innings is probably a fairer reflection of what

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Speaker 3: the swing bowling is probably more effective. I think what

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Speaker 3: we saw from Tim Saudi is very much down on

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Speaker 3: Matt Henry is a very fine bowler and probably deserved

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Speaker 3: to play at least one of those tests. But I

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Speaker 3: don't think we could have expected Matt Henry to do

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Speaker 3: what he did the other day in Sri Lanka. I

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Speaker 3: think that's probably a bridge too far given those conditions and.

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Speaker 2: The white ferns into the T twenty World Cup Final.

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Speaker 3: Hats outstanding, Absolutely outstanding. It's been a heck of a

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Speaker 3: tough run for the White Ferns. I think thirteen losses

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Speaker 2: The World Cup.

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Speaker 3: You know, no one is really you know, looking at

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Speaker 3: them as a potential finalist, and you know, it's been outstanding.

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Speaker 3: From the very first game against India where they played

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Speaker 3: they played beautifully. They get humbled in Sri lank and

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Speaker 3: Shaja against Australia, which I think was a great thing

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Speaker 3: because they sort of changed their method and they the

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Speaker 3: way they bought it out yesterday against the Western He's

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Speaker 3: from a batting perspective, they'd looked like they understood the

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Speaker 3: conditions really well. And you know, absolutely delighted for those

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Speaker 3: older players that have been to so many Will Cups

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Speaker 3: and haven't come this far. So great opportunity against South Africa,

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Speaker 3: we're going to have a new winner.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, plenty good cricket to watch with red and white

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Speaker 2: ball over the next few days. Always appreciate your time, Mike,

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Speaker 2: Thanks indeed, pleasure. Thanks funny No, thanks Mike Mike Essen,

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Speaker 2: their former Black Caps coach. They'll resume at around four

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Speaker 2: forty five this afternoon with India two thirty one for three.

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Speaker 2: They trailed by one hundred and twenty five runs with

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Speaker 2: seven second innings wickets in hand.

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