1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:12,693 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talks'd be follow 2 00:00:12,773 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,653 --> 00:00:18,572 Speaker 2: You great New Zealanders and welcome to Matt and Tyler 4 00:00:18,573 --> 00:00:20,732 Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number three one six for Thursday, the 5 00:00:20,773 --> 00:00:23,453 Speaker 2: twenty sixth of March twenty twenty six. I think you're 6 00:00:23,453 --> 00:00:28,613 Speaker 2: going to enjoy our chat about headless human lab growing 7 00:00:30,133 --> 00:00:31,853 Speaker 2: organ bodyoids. 8 00:00:32,013 --> 00:00:35,133 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't make sense now, but it may 9 00:00:35,293 --> 00:00:37,053 Speaker 3: make more sense when you hear that conversation. 10 00:00:37,133 --> 00:00:39,092 Speaker 2: I mean, I wasn't sure that people would want to 11 00:00:39,133 --> 00:00:40,973 Speaker 2: talk about that when we were in our pre show 12 00:00:41,013 --> 00:00:43,213 Speaker 2: meeting where we floated that as something to talk about, 13 00:00:43,213 --> 00:00:46,652 Speaker 2: But it turns out that's exactly what New Zealanders want 14 00:00:46,693 --> 00:00:49,772 Speaker 2: to talk about. That they love talking about fuel. 15 00:00:50,333 --> 00:00:53,892 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely so it was a great show. Download, subscribe 16 00:00:53,933 --> 00:00:54,493 Speaker 3: and give us a. 17 00:00:54,413 --> 00:00:56,813 Speaker 2: Review and give them a taste to Kiwi from us. 18 00:00:56,813 --> 00:00:58,853 Speaker 2: All right, Dan love you love. 19 00:00:58,733 --> 00:01:03,413 Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything 20 00:01:03,453 --> 00:01:03,933 Speaker 1: in between. 21 00:01:04,333 --> 00:01:08,693 Speaker 4: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squid Shoder Talk 22 00:01:08,773 --> 00:01:10,572 Speaker 4: say a. 23 00:01:10,773 --> 00:01:14,053 Speaker 3: Very good afternoons. You welcome into Friday show. So good 24 00:01:14,093 --> 00:01:15,773 Speaker 3: to have you're with us and Hope you're having a 25 00:01:15,773 --> 00:01:17,773 Speaker 3: great day with if you're listening in this country, how 26 00:01:17,773 --> 00:01:18,213 Speaker 3: are you, Matt? 27 00:01:18,613 --> 00:01:22,212 Speaker 2: I'm so good looking forward to three hours of scintillating 28 00:01:22,253 --> 00:01:25,292 Speaker 2: talkback on eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two 29 00:01:25,373 --> 00:01:26,373 Speaker 2: nine two is the text number? 30 00:01:26,572 --> 00:01:28,293 Speaker 3: Very good. Now, just before we get into it, there's 31 00:01:28,572 --> 00:01:31,333 Speaker 3: a wee message I just want to send out to 32 00:01:31,453 --> 00:01:33,613 Speaker 3: someone very close to me. Okay, I just want to 33 00:01:33,652 --> 00:01:37,053 Speaker 3: wish a very very happy birthday to my beautiful partner May. 34 00:01:37,773 --> 00:01:40,493 Speaker 3: She is thirty four today and she puts up with 35 00:01:40,533 --> 00:01:41,572 Speaker 3: a lot of crap. We all know that. 36 00:01:41,893 --> 00:01:44,893 Speaker 2: Cradle rock yeah, cradle robber, she's thirty four. 37 00:01:45,093 --> 00:01:47,172 Speaker 3: What's that difference. It's a difference of eight years. 38 00:01:47,212 --> 00:01:49,373 Speaker 2: That's a right in it. I mean, I've got you know, 39 00:01:49,493 --> 00:01:51,533 Speaker 2: she's thirty four, you're forty that you're not very good 40 00:01:51,533 --> 00:01:52,653 Speaker 2: at math. It's twenty six years. 41 00:01:52,693 --> 00:01:52,853 Speaker 5: Yeah. 42 00:01:52,893 --> 00:01:56,053 Speaker 3: See, nothing wrong with that. We all know in this place. 43 00:01:56,173 --> 00:01:56,853 Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with that. 44 00:01:56,893 --> 00:01:59,293 Speaker 3: There's nothing nothing wrong with those sort of numbers. But 45 00:01:59,413 --> 00:02:01,293 Speaker 3: a very very happy birthday and to Maybe she won't 46 00:02:01,293 --> 00:02:03,933 Speaker 3: be listening, but maybe she'll get this message through somebody 47 00:02:03,933 --> 00:02:04,693 Speaker 3: else who's listening. 48 00:02:04,733 --> 00:02:06,413 Speaker 2: But she is, you see her, tell her that, yep. 49 00:02:06,453 --> 00:02:07,893 Speaker 2: Tyler loves her and happy birthday. 50 00:02:07,973 --> 00:02:08,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, please do. 51 00:02:09,533 --> 00:02:11,412 Speaker 2: A couple of days ago, you're asking about making a cake, 52 00:02:11,413 --> 00:02:12,132 Speaker 2: did you break the cake? 53 00:02:12,413 --> 00:02:14,813 Speaker 3: No, So that's going to be my job on Saturday morning. 54 00:02:15,053 --> 00:02:16,933 Speaker 3: I did ask her because I said, look, you've got 55 00:02:16,972 --> 00:02:20,733 Speaker 3: two options. Either I can try my best with a 56 00:02:20,773 --> 00:02:23,373 Speaker 3: limited time to make your cake on your actual birthday, 57 00:02:23,733 --> 00:02:26,053 Speaker 3: or we save it for when we're doing this murder 58 00:02:26,133 --> 00:02:29,613 Speaker 3: mystery situation on Saturday. And she said save it for Saturday. 59 00:02:30,173 --> 00:02:31,773 Speaker 3: So I've got six hours to. 60 00:02:32,133 --> 00:02:33,972 Speaker 2: It's a mid a mystery game. You're not planning to 61 00:02:34,053 --> 00:02:35,173 Speaker 2: finish her off. 62 00:02:35,053 --> 00:02:36,412 Speaker 6: Are you? No? 63 00:02:36,413 --> 00:02:38,293 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, it is a game, a game. 64 00:02:38,333 --> 00:02:40,532 Speaker 3: No no, I even't been thinking about that for some time. No, 65 00:02:40,573 --> 00:02:42,173 Speaker 3: because that would be a bad thing. Just to let 66 00:02:42,173 --> 00:02:46,133 Speaker 3: that slip on on radio. 67 00:02:47,093 --> 00:02:51,493 Speaker 2: There'd be a poor plan. That certainly, Yes, because we 68 00:02:51,613 --> 00:02:54,173 Speaker 2: got a text in from when you last talked about 69 00:02:54,173 --> 00:02:56,773 Speaker 2: making a cake from this guy. It was a heartwarming text. 70 00:02:56,813 --> 00:03:00,693 Speaker 2: So thirty years in a row he's made his wife 71 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:02,453 Speaker 2: baked her cake. 72 00:03:02,613 --> 00:03:04,613 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what a legend. So no pre sure, but 73 00:03:04,653 --> 00:03:07,653 Speaker 3: she wants a carrot cake. I assume that's pretty easy, 74 00:03:07,693 --> 00:03:09,573 Speaker 3: but I don't know. I haven't even looked at recipes. 75 00:03:09,653 --> 00:03:15,493 Speaker 2: Yet carrot cake great, great, the carrot Yep, carrot cake. 76 00:03:15,532 --> 00:03:18,933 Speaker 2: It's all about the icing, because carrot cake isn't isn't 77 00:03:18,972 --> 00:03:25,213 Speaker 2: intrinsically delicious in its own right. You need to have icing. 78 00:03:25,493 --> 00:03:26,572 Speaker 3: And whipped cream. 79 00:03:26,613 --> 00:03:28,533 Speaker 2: Do you serve a carrot cake with whipped cream but 80 00:03:28,813 --> 00:03:30,573 Speaker 2: weped cream or vanilla ice cream? 81 00:03:30,653 --> 00:03:32,053 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, that goes well with it. 82 00:03:32,133 --> 00:03:34,373 Speaker 2: But you just just nail that icing, just lacquer that 83 00:03:34,613 --> 00:03:38,053 Speaker 2: icing on it. Just make it fifty percent fifty percent icing. 84 00:03:38,173 --> 00:03:40,413 Speaker 3: Genuine question. You know how banana cakes? You have to 85 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:42,453 Speaker 3: have old bananas for a carrot cake? Do they have 86 00:03:42,493 --> 00:03:44,173 Speaker 3: to be old carrots? Do they have to sit for 87 00:03:44,173 --> 00:03:45,213 Speaker 3: a little bit to ripen up? 88 00:03:45,493 --> 00:03:47,573 Speaker 2: Do they have to be old bananas and banana cake? 89 00:03:47,653 --> 00:03:49,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to get them brown. They've got to 90 00:03:49,253 --> 00:03:51,333 Speaker 3: be a little bit mushy. Surely you can't use a 91 00:03:51,373 --> 00:03:52,013 Speaker 3: fresh banana. 92 00:03:52,573 --> 00:03:54,653 Speaker 2: Isn't that just because you don't need them to be 93 00:03:54,853 --> 00:03:56,653 Speaker 2: But if you can use any banana and a banana cake, 94 00:03:56,653 --> 00:03:57,172 Speaker 2: it could be wrong. 95 00:03:57,293 --> 00:03:59,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all going to go well anyway. Yeah, fingers cross. 96 00:04:00,133 --> 00:04:04,813 Speaker 3: But a very happy birthday to May. What an absolute legend, right, 97 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:08,253 Speaker 3: on to the show. After three o'clock, we wanted to 98 00:04:08,493 --> 00:04:12,693 Speaker 3: about the opening of Takaha Stadium in christ Juche. Massive 99 00:04:12,773 --> 00:04:15,533 Speaker 3: day for the people of Canterbury. A lot of excitement 100 00:04:15,573 --> 00:04:19,293 Speaker 3: down there. It's been fifteen years in the making. So 101 00:04:19,413 --> 00:04:21,373 Speaker 3: if you're in christ Juche, how fizzed up are you 102 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:23,293 Speaker 3: about this? Is it going to make a big difference 103 00:04:23,293 --> 00:04:25,613 Speaker 3: for the country and for the rest of us. Let's 104 00:04:25,613 --> 00:04:28,013 Speaker 3: be honest, a we are a bit jealous. Six hundred and 105 00:04:28,013 --> 00:04:31,453 Speaker 3: what six hundred and eighty three million. I believe it's 106 00:04:31,533 --> 00:04:33,213 Speaker 3: a lot of cash. It is a lot of mulah. 107 00:04:33,333 --> 00:04:35,253 Speaker 2: Is it worth it? Do you think it's worth it? 108 00:04:35,773 --> 00:04:38,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was worth it when I was down there. 109 00:04:38,493 --> 00:04:40,733 Speaker 2: I believe that. Foresyth Bar, when that was built, I 110 00:04:40,733 --> 00:04:43,173 Speaker 2: believe that came out at one hundred and eighty million 111 00:04:43,253 --> 00:04:45,613 Speaker 2: down in Dunedin and a lot of people thought it 112 00:04:45,613 --> 00:04:47,813 Speaker 2: wouldn't be withth it, but it certainly was. Yeah. But 113 00:04:48,573 --> 00:04:50,693 Speaker 2: stadium inflation, oh yeah. 114 00:04:50,733 --> 00:04:52,533 Speaker 3: Initially it was going to cost three hundred million, then 115 00:04:52,533 --> 00:04:54,853 Speaker 3: it blew out to six hundred and eighty odds. 116 00:04:54,893 --> 00:04:58,213 Speaker 2: It's a beautiful building. It is a beautiful building. 117 00:04:58,253 --> 00:04:58,813 Speaker 3: It certainly is. 118 00:04:58,853 --> 00:05:01,853 Speaker 2: And just don't forget about for sooth bar Stadium though. 119 00:05:01,893 --> 00:05:05,093 Speaker 2: You know I'm from Dunedin and you know healthon John 120 00:05:05,133 --> 00:05:05,613 Speaker 2: went there. 121 00:05:05,533 --> 00:05:06,693 Speaker 3: Throw my bone every now and again. 122 00:05:06,733 --> 00:05:08,773 Speaker 2: Hendrick, Mamma, We yeah, it's him. 123 00:05:09,293 --> 00:05:14,133 Speaker 3: This is going to be tough times times full sight anitas. 124 00:05:14,533 --> 00:05:16,573 Speaker 3: That is after three o'clock, looking forward to your thoughts. 125 00:05:16,613 --> 00:05:18,173 Speaker 3: Then after two o'clock. We were going to get to 126 00:05:18,173 --> 00:05:20,053 Speaker 3: this a couple of days ago, but we will get 127 00:05:20,093 --> 00:05:21,933 Speaker 3: it to get to it today. A powerful story out 128 00:05:21,973 --> 00:05:24,813 Speaker 3: of China. A group of dogs were allegedly stolen from 129 00:05:24,853 --> 00:05:27,173 Speaker 3: a rural village. They were jammed into a butcher's van, 130 00:05:27,253 --> 00:05:29,453 Speaker 3: and we're hitting for what we all know was a 131 00:05:29,533 --> 00:05:32,453 Speaker 3: terrible end. That is, and to Corgy led a great 132 00:05:32,573 --> 00:05:35,173 Speaker 3: escape operation, broke them all out of the van and 133 00:05:35,213 --> 00:05:38,333 Speaker 3: then led them on a seventeen kilometer journey back home 134 00:05:38,653 --> 00:05:42,293 Speaker 3: while avoiding the butchers as they were making that trick. 135 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:44,213 Speaker 3: But the question we want to put to you is 136 00:05:44,813 --> 00:05:47,253 Speaker 3: Corky's are they the best dog breed in the world. 137 00:05:47,333 --> 00:05:48,813 Speaker 2: Well, it looks like the Corky is the leader of 138 00:05:48,853 --> 00:05:52,653 Speaker 2: this great escape from the dog food factory, and not 139 00:05:52,893 --> 00:05:57,013 Speaker 2: dog food for dogs, but dogs being food factory for humans. 140 00:05:57,293 --> 00:05:59,293 Speaker 2: So are they the king of dogs? Are they the 141 00:05:59,293 --> 00:06:02,773 Speaker 2: greatest dog of all time? The corky? If not? Which 142 00:06:02,813 --> 00:06:06,053 Speaker 2: breed is? Because the thing with dogs is we don't 143 00:06:06,093 --> 00:06:08,973 Speaker 2: love them just because their power, because of their power 144 00:06:08,973 --> 00:06:09,813 Speaker 2: and utility, do we? 145 00:06:10,013 --> 00:06:10,293 Speaker 6: No? 146 00:06:10,293 --> 00:06:12,893 Speaker 2: No, often we love them mainly because they are small, 147 00:06:13,013 --> 00:06:13,733 Speaker 2: useless and ugly. 148 00:06:13,853 --> 00:06:15,453 Speaker 3: Yeah, you want a bit of goober gubris. 149 00:06:15,493 --> 00:06:17,013 Speaker 2: And there I came across a pug party the other 150 00:06:17,093 --> 00:06:21,493 Speaker 2: day when I was walking my dog up, big King. 151 00:06:21,693 --> 00:06:22,973 Speaker 3: Where do these pug parties hapen? 152 00:06:23,053 --> 00:06:23,133 Speaker 5: You? 153 00:06:23,213 --> 00:06:26,293 Speaker 2: Just they organize them, right something. You come across fifty 154 00:06:26,333 --> 00:06:30,373 Speaker 2: pugs and you're like, that is an ugly dog, kind 155 00:06:30,373 --> 00:06:32,373 Speaker 2: of useless, and all your heir is the breathing but 156 00:06:32,613 --> 00:06:34,653 Speaker 2: so cute and such a great personality. 157 00:06:34,773 --> 00:06:35,892 Speaker 3: Yeah, very happy dogs. 158 00:06:35,933 --> 00:06:39,213 Speaker 2: So they're ugly cute, Yeah the pug Yep, so are 159 00:06:39,213 --> 00:06:41,573 Speaker 2: they the greatest dog? As the pug the greatest dog 160 00:06:41,573 --> 00:06:42,053 Speaker 2: of full time? 161 00:06:42,173 --> 00:06:44,173 Speaker 3: Looking forward to your thoughts on that after two o'clock. 162 00:06:44,373 --> 00:06:47,053 Speaker 3: But right now, let's have a discussion about social media. 163 00:06:47,093 --> 00:06:49,733 Speaker 3: So there's arguments. Better and Google are facing a pretty 164 00:06:49,733 --> 00:06:52,853 Speaker 3: pivotal moment right now, as courts and regulators increasingly treat 165 00:06:52,893 --> 00:06:56,933 Speaker 3: social media as an addiction. So a recent US court 166 00:06:57,013 --> 00:07:00,653 Speaker 3: ruling found that features like infinite scroll, AutoPlay, and algorithmic 167 00:07:00,773 --> 00:07:04,573 Speaker 3: feeds have been intentionally built to keep users, especially young people, 168 00:07:04,613 --> 00:07:06,893 Speaker 3: engaged in harmful ways. So that's open the door to 169 00:07:06,973 --> 00:07:09,333 Speaker 3: a wave of lawsuits. They lost the first one. It 170 00:07:09,413 --> 00:07:12,253 Speaker 3: was a test case, and there's arguments the shift could 171 00:07:12,253 --> 00:07:15,213 Speaker 3: have far reaching consequences. Some lawyers and US lawmakers say 172 00:07:15,253 --> 00:07:18,733 Speaker 3: this is big tech text, big tobacco moment, and US 173 00:07:18,853 --> 00:07:21,813 Speaker 3: media law expert Jeff Strabone he went further, saying, I 174 00:07:21,893 --> 00:07:24,613 Speaker 3: quote the parallels between social media apps and big tobacco 175 00:07:24,813 --> 00:07:27,413 Speaker 3: right themselves. Once again, children and adults have been hooked 176 00:07:27,613 --> 00:07:31,573 Speaker 3: on an addictive, harmful product that for now remains unregulated 177 00:07:31,693 --> 00:07:32,373 Speaker 3: by the government. 178 00:07:32,613 --> 00:07:36,253 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, as I was saying before big tobacco sold nicotine, 179 00:07:37,253 --> 00:07:43,253 Speaker 2: big tech cells dopamine, right, Yeah, well done. Both used 180 00:07:43,253 --> 00:07:46,933 Speaker 2: to get people addicted for their profits, and both have 181 00:07:47,053 --> 00:07:49,173 Speaker 2: been shown to do harm to people. 182 00:07:49,333 --> 00:07:49,573 Speaker 3: Yeah. 183 00:07:49,613 --> 00:07:52,933 Speaker 2: So if you're getting getting people addicted to a product 184 00:07:52,933 --> 00:07:56,613 Speaker 2: that's known to do harm, what's the big difference? And 185 00:07:56,733 --> 00:07:59,813 Speaker 2: the allegation, as it was for the tobacco companies back 186 00:07:59,813 --> 00:08:01,933 Speaker 2: in the days, that they knew exactly what they were 187 00:08:01,933 --> 00:08:06,093 Speaker 2: doing former Facebook insiders. So the platforms were deliberately engineered 188 00:08:06,133 --> 00:08:10,013 Speaker 2: to be addictives addictive. So lawmakers are comparing them directly 189 00:08:10,013 --> 00:08:12,093 Speaker 2: to cigarette companies. And now the courts are starting to 190 00:08:12,693 --> 00:08:15,413 Speaker 2: go maybe maybe, And with this case, I mean, it's 191 00:08:15,453 --> 00:08:18,933 Speaker 2: only six million dollars in this particular case, but it 192 00:08:18,973 --> 00:08:21,413 Speaker 2: opens the door for thousands of thousands of cases. They 193 00:08:21,413 --> 00:08:24,773 Speaker 2: will appeal and as you can expect, these social media 194 00:08:24,773 --> 00:08:28,013 Speaker 2: companies like Meta have decent sized legal budgets. 195 00:08:28,093 --> 00:08:28,253 Speaker 7: Yep. 196 00:08:28,453 --> 00:08:29,933 Speaker 3: They'll probably keep it in court for some time. 197 00:08:30,093 --> 00:08:31,853 Speaker 2: But we can all see the damage that social media 198 00:08:31,933 --> 00:08:36,253 Speaker 2: as doing to children, adults, our society, all of us. 199 00:08:36,973 --> 00:08:39,852 Speaker 2: It's definitely terrible for mental health. So if that's true, 200 00:08:39,893 --> 00:08:41,693 Speaker 2: if your phone is designed to hook you and it's 201 00:08:41,732 --> 00:08:43,573 Speaker 2: really bad for you, then why is it any different 202 00:08:43,612 --> 00:08:46,453 Speaker 2: from the bloody the bloody sick companies? 203 00:08:46,492 --> 00:08:46,652 Speaker 8: Eh? 204 00:08:47,173 --> 00:08:49,053 Speaker 2: What do you say? Or is this all a load 205 00:08:49,093 --> 00:08:54,613 Speaker 2: of hysteria and moral panic as we've had for previous things. 206 00:08:55,132 --> 00:08:57,013 Speaker 2: You know, there's always the moral panic of the age. 207 00:08:57,012 --> 00:08:59,532 Speaker 2: And it's currently social media. You know, it used to 208 00:08:59,573 --> 00:09:00,652 Speaker 2: be heavy metal. 209 00:09:00,533 --> 00:09:04,293 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, TV bobs at some stage, Yeah, books, Yeah, 210 00:09:04,293 --> 00:09:06,373 Speaker 3: comic books yep. Comic books. That's right. 211 00:09:06,413 --> 00:09:09,653 Speaker 2: The whole of the Western world was just terrified at 212 00:09:09,653 --> 00:09:12,453 Speaker 2: the brain rotting capabilities of coblet books. Yeah, back in 213 00:09:12,492 --> 00:09:16,053 Speaker 2: the fifties and sixties, right through to the seventies. You know, 214 00:09:16,973 --> 00:09:22,373 Speaker 2: is this all just a repeating lack of discipline over time? So, 215 00:09:22,413 --> 00:09:26,333 Speaker 2: because all addictions are arguably a lack of discipline, aren't they? 216 00:09:26,453 --> 00:09:26,693 Speaker 9: Yep? 217 00:09:26,732 --> 00:09:30,012 Speaker 2: Because this person that's bought this particular case here and 218 00:09:30,533 --> 00:09:35,412 Speaker 2: won the California Duria Award of six million dollars. Kayleie 219 00:09:35,453 --> 00:09:37,813 Speaker 2: is her name. A twenty year old who started using 220 00:09:37,813 --> 00:09:40,693 Speaker 2: social media aged six and then it became an hours 221 00:09:40,732 --> 00:09:43,493 Speaker 2: of day addiction. She was spending time on Instagram as 222 00:09:43,533 --> 00:09:46,492 Speaker 2: well as YouTube, and this, it's claimed, led to feelings 223 00:09:46,492 --> 00:09:51,732 Speaker 2: of body dysmorphia and thoughts of self harm. Right, So, 224 00:09:52,533 --> 00:09:53,973 Speaker 2: I mean, you could look at that question there and 225 00:09:54,012 --> 00:09:57,333 Speaker 2: go at age six, she was spending hours on this 226 00:09:57,533 --> 00:09:59,813 Speaker 2: on this platform. It was letting her be on the 227 00:09:59,852 --> 00:10:01,253 Speaker 2: platform at age six for hours. 228 00:10:01,293 --> 00:10:03,252 Speaker 3: It's a good question to ask. So what do you say, Oh, 229 00:10:03,252 --> 00:10:05,093 Speaker 3: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 230 00:10:05,093 --> 00:10:08,852 Speaker 3: to call our social media companies the modern day big tobacco? 231 00:10:09,413 --> 00:10:11,693 Speaker 3: Or is it just a little bit of skimong green 232 00:10:11,852 --> 00:10:14,893 Speaker 3: from many people in the US and lawmakers. Eight hundred 233 00:10:14,933 --> 00:10:16,772 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number? Nineteen ninet two 234 00:10:16,813 --> 00:10:17,492 Speaker 3: is the text. 235 00:10:17,813 --> 00:10:20,293 Speaker 2: The text says, stop calling it to Kha. It's called 236 00:10:20,333 --> 00:10:25,133 Speaker 2: one stadium to Khar to cah cah, Caha to Kaha. 237 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:27,132 Speaker 2: I'm not getting any money to call it exactly. 238 00:10:27,173 --> 00:10:29,132 Speaker 3: Nobody's giving me any money to hype up a small 239 00:10:29,213 --> 00:10:30,853 Speaker 3: so I'm sure they're lovely people, but no, I. 240 00:10:30,813 --> 00:10:32,372 Speaker 2: Have one New zealand want to flip me some coin, 241 00:10:32,413 --> 00:10:33,372 Speaker 2: then I'll call it whatever you want. 242 00:10:33,453 --> 00:10:34,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, nicely said. 243 00:10:34,653 --> 00:10:39,333 Speaker 2: But this text also says, O, MG, you are so 244 00:10:39,533 --> 00:10:42,813 Speaker 2: much crap, Tyler. You never say a woman's age, Is 245 00:10:42,813 --> 00:10:45,053 Speaker 2: that right? Yespos, never say a woman's age. 246 00:10:44,933 --> 00:10:47,852 Speaker 3: Even at thirty four, which is the age maviz right now, 247 00:10:48,372 --> 00:10:49,732 Speaker 3: thank you very much for that text. 248 00:10:49,852 --> 00:10:50,813 Speaker 2: You are so much crap. 249 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:53,773 Speaker 3: Sixteen bars one back very shortly. 250 00:10:54,653 --> 00:10:58,132 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 251 00:10:58,372 --> 00:11:02,413 Speaker 1: everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons U's talk, 252 00:11:02,453 --> 00:11:02,892 Speaker 1: sa'd be. 253 00:11:04,173 --> 00:11:07,173 Speaker 3: It is nineteen pass one, So our social media company 254 00:11:07,252 --> 00:11:10,013 Speaker 3: is akin to toa eacho companies back in the eighties 255 00:11:10,012 --> 00:11:13,132 Speaker 3: and nineties. It's an argument being made by US lawmakers 256 00:11:13,333 --> 00:11:16,533 Speaker 3: and media experts around the globe in light of a 257 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:21,453 Speaker 3: recent court case that they lost, effectively saying that the 258 00:11:21,492 --> 00:11:27,533 Speaker 3: infinite scroll options, the feeds, the algorithmic feeds, and also 259 00:11:27,933 --> 00:11:31,053 Speaker 3: the AutoPlay have been intentionally built to keep users, especially 260 00:11:31,132 --> 00:11:33,573 Speaker 3: young people, addicted. So what do you say, Oh, eight 261 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:36,652 Speaker 3: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. So 262 00:11:36,773 --> 00:11:39,733 Speaker 3: I think the comparison with the tobacco companies is pretty 263 00:11:39,732 --> 00:11:42,652 Speaker 3: fair in some aspects. Back in the eighties, the tobacco companies, 264 00:11:42,693 --> 00:11:45,213 Speaker 3: as we'd remember, said, we take a leaf and we 265 00:11:45,252 --> 00:11:47,253 Speaker 3: put it in a cigarette, and we sell it to 266 00:11:47,252 --> 00:11:49,533 Speaker 3: the public. And what happens after that, we don't know. 267 00:11:49,573 --> 00:11:51,732 Speaker 3: It might be addictive, it might not be. We've got 268 00:11:51,813 --> 00:11:53,892 Speaker 3: no idea. Then slowly it was found out in the 269 00:11:53,973 --> 00:11:56,053 Speaker 3: nineties and even in the two thousands that they were 270 00:11:56,093 --> 00:12:01,053 Speaker 3: deliberately designing cigarettes to be as addictive as possible. And 271 00:12:01,093 --> 00:12:03,053 Speaker 3: I think there's some parallels there with the media companies, 272 00:12:03,053 --> 00:12:05,213 Speaker 3: clearly that they have seen at the moment social media 273 00:12:05,293 --> 00:12:09,492 Speaker 3: meta Google YouTuber saying we produce content, content is enjoyable, 274 00:12:09,892 --> 00:12:12,492 Speaker 3: and what happens after that that's outside of our control. 275 00:12:12,573 --> 00:12:16,293 Speaker 3: It's enjoyable content, it's entertainment, and then it's personal responsibility. 276 00:12:16,732 --> 00:12:18,773 Speaker 3: But now we are starting to see with some of 277 00:12:18,813 --> 00:12:22,333 Speaker 3: these court cases, the argument is leaning towards these products 278 00:12:22,333 --> 00:12:25,893 Speaker 3: that they offer being deliberately designed to keep people hoped 279 00:12:26,252 --> 00:12:27,133 Speaker 3: on what they deliver. 280 00:12:27,453 --> 00:12:31,412 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But the problem for them is that executives 281 00:12:31,413 --> 00:12:33,693 Speaker 2: that have left the companies have come out and said, oh, yeah, yeah, 282 00:12:33,693 --> 00:12:35,132 Speaker 2: we had meetings where we were trying to get them 283 00:12:35,132 --> 00:12:38,053 Speaker 2: as addictive as possible. Yeah, but everything's trying to be 284 00:12:38,053 --> 00:12:42,693 Speaker 2: as addictive were possible, isn't it? So isn't every single 285 00:12:42,813 --> 00:12:46,372 Speaker 2: piece of media? Couldn't you just say that a restaurant 286 00:12:46,413 --> 00:12:48,412 Speaker 2: is trying to be as addictive as possible by making 287 00:12:48,453 --> 00:12:51,372 Speaker 2: its food as buttery and salty and delicious as it 288 00:12:51,372 --> 00:12:54,933 Speaker 2: can so people crave it and come back. So couldn't 289 00:12:54,933 --> 00:12:58,533 Speaker 2: you just put that across absolutely everything? This Texas says, no, no, no, 290 00:12:58,573 --> 00:13:01,333 Speaker 2: they are not addictive. Well that's a tough argument, and 291 00:13:01,372 --> 00:13:04,012 Speaker 2: they are not bad for you. Everything will get you 292 00:13:04,093 --> 00:13:07,533 Speaker 2: if you let it. Sugar, fat, salt, booze, gambling, if 293 00:13:07,533 --> 00:13:10,493 Speaker 2: you're an addictive, if you have an addictive personality, you 294 00:13:10,533 --> 00:13:13,613 Speaker 2: get addicted, You'll find something to get addicted. It's not 295 00:13:13,693 --> 00:13:16,773 Speaker 2: the people that create these things fault. It's your fault. 296 00:13:17,213 --> 00:13:18,453 Speaker 2: Get your addiction looked at. 297 00:13:19,372 --> 00:13:20,973 Speaker 3: It's a fair point. I mean when it's food, and 298 00:13:21,012 --> 00:13:24,172 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. I know most food manufacturers and 299 00:13:24,213 --> 00:13:26,733 Speaker 3: they have conferences and they have scientists behind the scenes 300 00:13:26,773 --> 00:13:29,132 Speaker 3: trying to develop ingredients that are going to be as 301 00:13:29,213 --> 00:13:32,493 Speaker 3: tasty and addictive as possible. That's happening. Whether they are 302 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:35,533 Speaker 3: upfront about that, that's probably the argument. I think. I'd 303 00:13:35,612 --> 00:13:39,813 Speaker 3: say social media companies haven't been as upfront with its 304 00:13:40,012 --> 00:13:42,652 Speaker 3: as other organizations. We know booze is addictive, we know 305 00:13:42,732 --> 00:13:46,412 Speaker 3: gambling is addictive, but social media companies and meta I 306 00:13:46,453 --> 00:13:49,612 Speaker 3: think YouTube is different. Actually Google and YouTubers is lesser 307 00:13:50,413 --> 00:13:54,652 Speaker 3: in regards to their addiction mechanisms. But they haven't come 308 00:13:54,693 --> 00:13:57,293 Speaker 3: out and said, yes, what we're doing is deliberately addictive. 309 00:13:57,453 --> 00:13:58,413 Speaker 3: I think that's the difference. 310 00:13:58,732 --> 00:14:04,173 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no you know, there's no coincidence. How 311 00:14:04,213 --> 00:14:08,053 Speaker 2: much sugar is in a soft drink, right, They put 312 00:14:08,132 --> 00:14:10,933 Speaker 2: so much sugar in there. It's amazing that they can 313 00:14:11,533 --> 00:14:14,892 Speaker 2: dissolve that much sugar. They put as much sugar in 314 00:14:14,973 --> 00:14:19,253 Speaker 2: some soft drinks as they can actually dissolve in their Yeah, 315 00:14:19,293 --> 00:14:21,493 Speaker 2: well whilst it doesn't get too thick. 316 00:14:22,013 --> 00:14:23,893 Speaker 3: I've seen the cups when they say, here's how much 317 00:14:23,893 --> 00:14:25,733 Speaker 3: sugar is in your soft drink, and the cup of 318 00:14:25,773 --> 00:14:27,453 Speaker 3: sugar is bigger than the drink itself. 319 00:14:27,533 --> 00:14:30,853 Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, So why do they do that to 320 00:14:30,933 --> 00:14:33,133 Speaker 2: get you as addicted to it? And everyone knows that 321 00:14:33,493 --> 00:14:36,533 Speaker 2: drinking you know, a one one two five of you know, 322 00:14:36,533 --> 00:14:41,053 Speaker 2: a one point five liter of pineapple wounders as what's 323 00:14:41,093 --> 00:14:42,333 Speaker 2: making all our kids a beese? 324 00:14:42,413 --> 00:14:44,253 Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, very true. What do you say? I eight 325 00:14:44,253 --> 00:14:45,373 Speaker 3: one hundred eight? 326 00:14:45,533 --> 00:14:49,173 Speaker 2: So why are we treating social media companies any different? 327 00:14:49,213 --> 00:14:52,133 Speaker 2: Isn't just everyone doing it? Isn't that just the whole point? 328 00:14:52,213 --> 00:14:55,213 Speaker 2: Isn't the idea? Look, I'm telling you what. Even radio 329 00:14:55,253 --> 00:14:57,653 Speaker 2: shows do it by trying to tease what's coming up 330 00:14:57,813 --> 00:14:58,213 Speaker 2: after the. 331 00:14:58,213 --> 00:14:59,973 Speaker 3: Air brain It is the attention economy. 332 00:15:00,053 --> 00:15:02,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the specion said is not even as bad 333 00:15:02,773 --> 00:15:05,253 Speaker 2: for you as they say only ten percent get cancer. 334 00:15:05,813 --> 00:15:07,053 Speaker 2: I mean one in ten is not great. 335 00:15:07,573 --> 00:15:12,453 Speaker 3: That's still pretty hig. Keep those things coming through on 336 00:15:12,493 --> 00:15:14,093 Speaker 3: nine to nine two. But what do you say, oh, 337 00:15:14,133 --> 00:15:15,693 Speaker 3: e one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 338 00:15:15,733 --> 00:15:18,172 Speaker 3: to call. Do you think social media companies are akin 339 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:21,453 Speaker 3: to big tobacco companies? Coming up after the break, we've 340 00:15:21,453 --> 00:15:24,253 Speaker 3: had a call from Vanessa we Nink. She is an 341 00:15:24,373 --> 00:15:27,333 Speaker 3: MP National MP for Banks Peninsula and they've just done 342 00:15:27,373 --> 00:15:29,933 Speaker 3: an investigation on social media. So we'll get her thoughts next. 343 00:15:29,933 --> 00:15:31,373 Speaker 3: That is twenty three past one. 344 00:15:32,253 --> 00:15:36,973 Speaker 6: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast. 345 00:15:36,493 --> 00:15:39,453 Speaker 10: To twelve to seventeen year old's reader myocarditis. What we 346 00:15:39,533 --> 00:15:42,493 Speaker 10: do know to be true is Hipkins did get the advice. 347 00:15:42,573 --> 00:15:44,493 Speaker 10: Simmon Brown's a healthy minister and he's with us. 348 00:15:44,533 --> 00:15:47,533 Speaker 11: It's very clear that Chris Hipkins knew about these concerns. 349 00:15:47,573 --> 00:15:50,373 Speaker 11: He was provided advice in late December twenty twenty one. 350 00:15:50,453 --> 00:15:52,573 Speaker 11: And when they were provided advice, they didn't ask any 351 00:15:52,653 --> 00:15:54,653 Speaker 11: questions or do anything about it. And the reality is 352 00:15:54,693 --> 00:15:56,333 Speaker 11: he came on your show said he didn't know. He's 353 00:15:56,373 --> 00:15:58,133 Speaker 11: got questions he needs to answer. 354 00:15:57,893 --> 00:16:00,333 Speaker 2: So he was hiding. But the COVID inquiry missed it. 355 00:16:00,333 --> 00:16:03,293 Speaker 10: The COVID inquiry says, they claim they didn't see it, 356 00:16:03,333 --> 00:16:04,773 Speaker 10: didn't know, and they accepted that. 357 00:16:04,933 --> 00:16:07,533 Speaker 11: The COVID inquiry found that the Ministry of Health didn't 358 00:16:07,573 --> 00:16:09,813 Speaker 11: provide the infame clearly enough, and I think that's an 359 00:16:09,893 --> 00:16:10,733 Speaker 11: absolute finding. 360 00:16:11,133 --> 00:16:14,333 Speaker 10: Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with 361 00:16:14,533 --> 00:16:15,933 Speaker 10: a Vida News Talk. 362 00:16:15,853 --> 00:16:19,412 Speaker 3: ZB twenty six past one. Our social media companies effectively 363 00:16:19,413 --> 00:16:21,773 Speaker 3: the modern day tobacco companies. So eight hundred and eighty 364 00:16:21,773 --> 00:16:23,133 Speaker 3: ten eighty is the number to call. 365 00:16:23,573 --> 00:16:27,413 Speaker 2: The sixth says you guys, I find you addictive? Can 366 00:16:27,453 --> 00:16:30,213 Speaker 2: I take you to court? See that's a problem. But 367 00:16:30,293 --> 00:16:32,773 Speaker 2: someone else is texted through I'm not finding your show 368 00:16:32,853 --> 00:16:35,813 Speaker 2: very addictive today. So I'll keep that text and use 369 00:16:35,813 --> 00:16:36,973 Speaker 2: it to defend us from. 370 00:16:36,853 --> 00:16:38,973 Speaker 3: An other tech. Yeah, that's good. That's good evidence right there. 371 00:16:39,213 --> 00:16:41,773 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Keep those seats coming through. But 372 00:16:41,813 --> 00:16:44,093 Speaker 3: on the line right now is Vanessa Weenink. She's been 373 00:16:44,093 --> 00:16:46,532 Speaker 3: having a listen. She is the MP for Banks Peninsula 374 00:16:46,933 --> 00:16:49,893 Speaker 3: and Vanessa, you guys have done an investigation on social media. 375 00:16:50,693 --> 00:16:54,773 Speaker 5: Yeah. Actually it was a wider investigation into online generally, 376 00:16:54,813 --> 00:16:58,933 Speaker 5: but included in that is social media, and it was clear. 377 00:16:58,973 --> 00:17:02,853 Speaker 5: We had lots of evidence, great participation from the public 378 00:17:02,933 --> 00:17:06,693 Speaker 5: and from lots of experts, and what we know from 379 00:17:06,733 --> 00:17:09,453 Speaker 5: a lot of studies is that there is definite evidence 380 00:17:09,533 --> 00:17:13,293 Speaker 5: that It has the same kind of addictive properties as 381 00:17:13,453 --> 00:17:18,093 Speaker 5: things like tobacco and even alcohol and some other drugs, 382 00:17:18,173 --> 00:17:22,373 Speaker 5: so it affects the same parts of our brains, and 383 00:17:22,453 --> 00:17:25,413 Speaker 5: young people are particularly vulnerable to it now. 384 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:28,493 Speaker 2: Vanessa, when you compare it to tobacco. So there's quite 385 00:17:28,613 --> 00:17:32,613 Speaker 2: clear medical effects from tobacco. You know, it's been proven 386 00:17:32,653 --> 00:17:34,933 Speaker 2: over and again, not just lung cancer, but a whole 387 00:17:34,933 --> 00:17:39,533 Speaker 2: list of cancers. Right, is the link to harm from 388 00:17:39,653 --> 00:17:41,653 Speaker 2: social media is clear cut? 389 00:17:43,013 --> 00:17:46,293 Speaker 5: No, But what is the comparator is the behavior of 390 00:17:46,333 --> 00:17:48,853 Speaker 5: the company. So if you look at the way that 391 00:17:48,893 --> 00:17:54,053 Speaker 5: the companies in the eighties behaved around the addictive of tobacco, 392 00:17:54,693 --> 00:17:59,812 Speaker 5: they deny, deny, deny, deny, denied, put out studies that 393 00:17:59,893 --> 00:18:03,053 Speaker 5: they kind of sponsored that should have kind of cast 394 00:18:03,093 --> 00:18:05,813 Speaker 5: out on links and things like that. The same sort 395 00:18:05,813 --> 00:18:09,093 Speaker 5: of thing is happening with social media companies today. They 396 00:18:09,213 --> 00:18:13,893 Speaker 5: are denying any links to addictive behaviors and the addictive outcome. 397 00:18:14,893 --> 00:18:18,853 Speaker 5: No one's saying that social media is causing cancer, but 398 00:18:18,973 --> 00:18:23,893 Speaker 5: there are definite harms and multiple kinds of forms, and 399 00:18:23,973 --> 00:18:28,653 Speaker 5: it's pretty clear that the way that they are designed 400 00:18:29,173 --> 00:18:31,973 Speaker 5: is designed to hack what we call the dopamine axis 401 00:18:32,293 --> 00:18:35,253 Speaker 5: of the brain, which is part of the addiction profiling. 402 00:18:35,973 --> 00:18:38,893 Speaker 5: And so it seems pretty clear that they're using that 403 00:18:39,253 --> 00:18:45,693 Speaker 5: physiological human elements that is present in every single human 404 00:18:46,213 --> 00:18:49,292 Speaker 5: to trap people into staying on for longer and longer, 405 00:18:49,533 --> 00:18:54,573 Speaker 5: because what they are harvesting is attention and so all 406 00:18:54,613 --> 00:18:58,813 Speaker 5: of that time and data that they collect from our 407 00:18:58,853 --> 00:19:03,133 Speaker 5: eyeballs on screen is their product. That's what they're selling. 408 00:19:03,333 --> 00:19:05,373 Speaker 2: Well, I mean much of the cigarette thing. They've got 409 00:19:05,373 --> 00:19:09,733 Speaker 2: whistleblowers now, like because that can Tim Kendall, the former 410 00:19:09,773 --> 00:19:13,893 Speaker 2: director of Monetization, he said directly, we took a page 411 00:19:13,893 --> 00:19:18,253 Speaker 2: from Big Tobacco's playbook making our offering addictive. That's a 412 00:19:18,373 --> 00:19:21,133 Speaker 2: very damn Those whistleblowers are a problem from Yeah. 413 00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:23,773 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so that's why I'd say that's where the 414 00:19:23,853 --> 00:19:28,453 Speaker 5: comparison comes, not necessarily in the fact that social media 415 00:19:28,573 --> 00:19:31,813 Speaker 5: is like cigarettes. No, the way that the companies are 416 00:19:31,853 --> 00:19:33,653 Speaker 5: behaving as simple think similar. 417 00:19:33,893 --> 00:19:36,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, just on that, you know, because I know the 418 00:19:36,133 --> 00:19:39,173 Speaker 3: analogy is not perfect comparing them to to tobacco industries 419 00:19:39,453 --> 00:19:41,493 Speaker 3: or cigarette use. But is that part of the problem 420 00:19:41,533 --> 00:19:44,573 Speaker 3: that when it comes to cigarettes, I can't think of 421 00:19:44,693 --> 00:19:47,373 Speaker 3: many benefits to somebody smoking They might get some enjoyment 422 00:19:47,373 --> 00:19:49,453 Speaker 3: out of it, that's fair enough, but in terms of 423 00:19:49,573 --> 00:19:52,173 Speaker 3: your physical health, there's not many benefits that I can 424 00:19:52,173 --> 00:19:56,213 Speaker 3: think of. There are actually benefits to social media. There's 425 00:19:56,213 --> 00:19:58,373 Speaker 3: some negative stuff there, but there's some positives. So many 426 00:19:58,373 --> 00:20:00,773 Speaker 3: of the companies argue that on balance, as long as 427 00:20:00,813 --> 00:20:03,333 Speaker 3: you're responsible, you can reap the benefits and not be 428 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:04,653 Speaker 3: affected by the negatives. 429 00:20:05,333 --> 00:20:10,413 Speaker 5: Yeah, so there's a difference between some individuals might think 430 00:20:10,493 --> 00:20:13,973 Speaker 5: and what we can see on a sort of population 431 00:20:14,253 --> 00:20:19,973 Speaker 5: level and how it affects, you know, the interaction between people. 432 00:20:20,453 --> 00:20:22,493 Speaker 5: There's all sorts of things. It's not just about the 433 00:20:22,573 --> 00:20:27,893 Speaker 5: individual choices. It's about what sort of you know, what 434 00:20:27,933 --> 00:20:30,133 Speaker 5: sort of things people can access through it as well, 435 00:20:30,173 --> 00:20:35,013 Speaker 5: and what they're exposed to. So it's more complex than that. 436 00:20:35,333 --> 00:20:41,293 Speaker 5: And just like any harmful substance like tobacco and alcohol 437 00:20:41,333 --> 00:20:43,733 Speaker 5: and other things, we do have age limits on that 438 00:20:43,813 --> 00:20:47,933 Speaker 5: and that's why the government is considering having age dating 439 00:20:48,093 --> 00:20:51,293 Speaker 5: or for social media as well. So it's going to 440 00:20:51,333 --> 00:20:55,532 Speaker 5: be an interesting discussion as it comes through. But it 441 00:20:55,573 --> 00:20:59,053 Speaker 5: was interesting on the Select Committee. There was real agreement 442 00:20:59,093 --> 00:21:02,213 Speaker 5: across the House between National and Labor that this is 443 00:21:02,293 --> 00:21:05,853 Speaker 5: definitely something that is harmful and that we need to 444 00:21:05,893 --> 00:21:09,853 Speaker 5: have a strong response to. And the committees report that 445 00:21:09,973 --> 00:21:13,493 Speaker 5: came out just last month's taught was very strong on 446 00:21:13,653 --> 00:21:16,413 Speaker 5: what our recommendations were for the government to consider. 447 00:21:17,253 --> 00:21:20,373 Speaker 2: It's interesting when you talk about individuals, because there has 448 00:21:20,413 --> 00:21:23,173 Speaker 2: to be some parental responsibility, right. So if we're looking 449 00:21:23,173 --> 00:21:26,933 Speaker 2: at this particular court case in California, so it's Kaylee 450 00:21:26,973 --> 00:21:29,213 Speaker 2: and so she's twenty years old, but she started using 451 00:21:29,213 --> 00:21:33,933 Speaker 2: social media age six for hours a day, so and 452 00:21:33,973 --> 00:21:35,773 Speaker 2: she said that led to feelings of body just moreth 453 00:21:35,973 --> 00:21:38,613 Speaker 2: and thoughts of self harm and stuff. But who's allowing 454 00:21:38,693 --> 00:21:41,893 Speaker 2: their kid to be on Instagram at the age. 455 00:21:41,653 --> 00:21:44,693 Speaker 5: Of six, Well, that's absolutely right. I find that kind 456 00:21:44,733 --> 00:21:48,533 Speaker 5: of shocking myself. And that was a key finding in 457 00:21:48,693 --> 00:21:54,173 Speaker 5: the committee's report as well. It's clear that parental and 458 00:21:54,253 --> 00:21:59,573 Speaker 5: personal responsibility comes into this as well, but also enabling 459 00:21:59,653 --> 00:22:02,653 Speaker 5: parents to understand that there are some tools that they 460 00:22:02,693 --> 00:22:06,613 Speaker 5: can use to help them with that. There's ways already 461 00:22:06,773 --> 00:22:11,853 Speaker 5: there's technology that can block access to social media. There's 462 00:22:11,893 --> 00:22:14,533 Speaker 5: ways of doing it, but it's not easy for people 463 00:22:14,573 --> 00:22:18,213 Speaker 5: to do that. It almost seems like they've made it 464 00:22:18,253 --> 00:22:22,933 Speaker 5: deliberately hard for the parental blocks to be accessed, then 465 00:22:23,093 --> 00:22:27,893 Speaker 5: it's not easy. So it's not anybody's fault if the 466 00:22:27,973 --> 00:22:30,773 Speaker 5: system is set up in order to make it hard 467 00:22:30,813 --> 00:22:34,093 Speaker 5: for you to control what your children are seeing. But 468 00:22:34,173 --> 00:22:36,573 Speaker 5: I do think that letting you sick to your eye, 469 00:22:36,573 --> 00:22:41,333 Speaker 5: I mean clearly that is not responsible parental actions there. 470 00:22:41,773 --> 00:22:44,373 Speaker 2: What do you say to people that say, there's so 471 00:22:44,533 --> 00:22:46,813 Speaker 2: many things you can get addicted to in the world, 472 00:22:46,973 --> 00:22:49,373 Speaker 2: and addiction is the problem. People will just find a 473 00:22:49,413 --> 00:22:54,973 Speaker 2: focus of their addiction, for example, sugary drinks. So people 474 00:22:55,013 --> 00:22:56,773 Speaker 2: are drinking a lot of sugar drinks. We don't necessarily 475 00:22:56,853 --> 00:23:00,173 Speaker 2: say that's an addiction, but the companies are definitely putting 476 00:23:00,213 --> 00:23:02,693 Speaker 2: as much sugar as they can in those drinks because 477 00:23:02,733 --> 00:23:04,973 Speaker 2: they know that people come back for the sugar. 478 00:23:05,933 --> 00:23:10,893 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, I agree. Are we happy that a company 479 00:23:10,893 --> 00:23:15,173 Speaker 5: would set up a platform, like a social media platform 480 00:23:15,253 --> 00:23:17,933 Speaker 5: in a way that is designed to be addictive to 481 00:23:17,973 --> 00:23:21,653 Speaker 5: hook and then keep the attention of our children and ourselves. 482 00:23:21,213 --> 00:23:25,053 Speaker 5: Are we happy with that when we know that the 483 00:23:25,333 --> 00:23:29,253 Speaker 5: human brain is all of us have a potential to 484 00:23:29,253 --> 00:23:34,093 Speaker 5: become addicted to things, and people designing products in order 485 00:23:34,133 --> 00:23:36,773 Speaker 5: to hack that, I think it's problematic it's. 486 00:23:36,653 --> 00:23:39,573 Speaker 3: Been great to chat to you. Vanessa, Just very quickly, 487 00:23:39,653 --> 00:23:42,413 Speaker 3: just before you shoot off, where are things that with 488 00:23:42,613 --> 00:23:45,853 Speaker 3: the social Media bill in the under sixteen that's in 489 00:23:45,853 --> 00:23:47,133 Speaker 3: select committee stage? Is that right? 490 00:23:47,853 --> 00:23:50,373 Speaker 5: No, that's not right at the moment. We still have 491 00:23:50,453 --> 00:23:55,213 Speaker 5: got to hear that, so the first reading of that 492 00:23:55,333 --> 00:23:58,613 Speaker 5: will be coming up. And the government's also considering their 493 00:23:58,653 --> 00:24:02,933 Speaker 5: response to our reports, so that's going through. Erica Stanford's 494 00:24:02,933 --> 00:24:06,613 Speaker 5: in charge of how the government's going to respond and 495 00:24:06,693 --> 00:24:08,253 Speaker 5: we will hear soon, I hope. 496 00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:08,613 Speaker 12: Hmm. 497 00:24:08,973 --> 00:24:11,013 Speaker 3: Very good. No, thank you very much for your time. 498 00:24:11,173 --> 00:24:14,213 Speaker 3: That is Vanessa we Nik. She is MP for Banks Peninsula. 499 00:24:14,253 --> 00:24:16,613 Speaker 3: She was listening in earlier and as she mentioned, they 500 00:24:16,653 --> 00:24:19,613 Speaker 3: have done investigations on social media addiction. But what do 501 00:24:19,653 --> 00:24:22,133 Speaker 3: you say, oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty, would 502 00:24:22,133 --> 00:24:25,373 Speaker 3: you consider social media companies akin too big tobacco and 503 00:24:25,413 --> 00:24:28,213 Speaker 3: the products that they offer and how they keep particularly 504 00:24:28,213 --> 00:24:32,213 Speaker 3: young people hooked. Headlines with Jody coming up next. Nine 505 00:24:32,293 --> 00:24:33,493 Speaker 3: to ninety two is the text. 506 00:24:33,373 --> 00:24:37,533 Speaker 6: Number us talk said be headlines with. 507 00:24:37,613 --> 00:24:41,173 Speaker 13: Your Ride, New Zealand's number one taxi app. Download your 508 00:24:41,253 --> 00:24:44,853 Speaker 13: Ride today. The country is preparing for escalations in the 509 00:24:44,893 --> 00:24:49,333 Speaker 13: global energy crunch. With a four stage fuel response plan unveiled. 510 00:24:49,613 --> 00:24:53,213 Speaker 13: We stand at phase one, monitoring global developments and working 511 00:24:53,253 --> 00:24:56,933 Speaker 13: to keep fuel flowing. A Ministerial oversight group will monitor 512 00:24:57,053 --> 00:25:01,533 Speaker 13: export restrictions, stock levels and other global developments to determine 513 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:06,973 Speaker 13: movement between phases. 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Questions 520 00:25:30,053 --> 00:25:34,053 Speaker 13: whether legal suppression will be upheld in global streaming of 521 00:25:34,093 --> 00:25:38,973 Speaker 13: a documentary about Marto copper futitive Tom Phillips diesel running 522 00:25:39,013 --> 00:25:42,933 Speaker 13: out rarely would be a mad Max World. See Matthew 523 00:25:42,973 --> 00:25:46,453 Speaker 13: Houghton's full column at NZ Herald Premium. Back to madd 524 00:25:46,493 --> 00:25:48,373 Speaker 13: Heath and Tyler Adams. 525 00:25:47,973 --> 00:25:51,053 Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Jodi is social media or our 526 00:25:51,093 --> 00:25:55,453 Speaker 3: social media companies effectively the modern day tobacco companies, with 527 00:25:55,613 --> 00:25:57,812 Speaker 3: how addictive they are, Oh one hundred and eighty ten 528 00:25:57,853 --> 00:25:58,653 Speaker 3: eighty is that number? 529 00:25:59,493 --> 00:26:03,373 Speaker 2: Tracy says, read the book Stolen Focus. Tech companies have 530 00:26:03,493 --> 00:26:05,653 Speaker 2: known for years what they're doing. Great book. As a teacher, 531 00:26:05,653 --> 00:26:08,253 Speaker 2: I saw what he talks about in an all may 532 00:26:08,453 --> 00:26:12,413 Speaker 2: great sense. Yeah boy, talking to teachers, the lack of 533 00:26:12,453 --> 00:26:14,933 Speaker 2: focus that children have now and the inability to even 534 00:26:14,973 --> 00:26:17,013 Speaker 2: listen to a story on the map on the mat, 535 00:26:17,013 --> 00:26:18,653 Speaker 2: which used to be the best part of primary school. 536 00:26:18,693 --> 00:26:21,413 Speaker 2: Pick Pete irony. I now have sugary drinks on my 537 00:26:21,453 --> 00:26:25,013 Speaker 2: social media algorithms. Love the show. That's from Tyler from Paradale. 538 00:26:25,053 --> 00:26:25,813 Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry about that. 539 00:26:27,013 --> 00:26:30,893 Speaker 2: Someone else says, imagine if you could advertise smokes on 540 00:26:30,973 --> 00:26:32,333 Speaker 2: social media that's from Andrew. 541 00:26:32,533 --> 00:26:34,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they would interesting. 542 00:26:35,013 --> 00:26:37,573 Speaker 2: You know the Benson and Hedges series and such back 543 00:26:37,573 --> 00:26:40,453 Speaker 2: in the day based every sporting event had. You know, 544 00:26:40,493 --> 00:26:43,813 Speaker 2: if you like watching old Formula one races like I do, 545 00:26:43,893 --> 00:26:45,093 Speaker 2: it's some cigarettes everywhere. 546 00:26:45,173 --> 00:26:47,533 Speaker 3: Yep, even the old movies. You know, get a cigarette 547 00:26:47,533 --> 00:26:49,413 Speaker 3: in the mouth of every leading actor and actress. 548 00:26:49,693 --> 00:26:52,133 Speaker 2: Well there was cigarettes used to come out on the 549 00:26:52,173 --> 00:26:55,253 Speaker 2: drinks trolly for correct names, so they'd ever drink and 550 00:26:55,253 --> 00:26:56,333 Speaker 2: a sig standing on the field. 551 00:26:56,453 --> 00:26:59,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, good old days for some. This one's interesting. 552 00:26:59,653 --> 00:27:01,853 Speaker 2: Yes, you go, sorry crikey. 553 00:27:02,133 --> 00:27:04,933 Speaker 3: Shall we also decide to band all PlayStation and xboxes 554 00:27:04,933 --> 00:27:07,333 Speaker 3: now due to their addictive nature? They can take mine 555 00:27:07,333 --> 00:27:09,812 Speaker 3: from my cold dead hand. It's from Gary. They are 556 00:27:09,893 --> 00:27:11,973 Speaker 3: very addictive PlayStations and xboxes. 557 00:27:12,413 --> 00:27:16,013 Speaker 2: Yeah. See that's the thing. Isn't every business to a 558 00:27:16,013 --> 00:27:19,493 Speaker 2: certain extent trying to addict you? Maybe not? No, like 559 00:27:19,533 --> 00:27:22,333 Speaker 2: if you're building a house, so like, for example, I'm 560 00:27:22,373 --> 00:27:24,453 Speaker 2: getting an on swite built in my house coming up 561 00:27:24,493 --> 00:27:28,573 Speaker 2: pretty soon. Nice, I won't. I don't imagine myself getting 562 00:27:28,613 --> 00:27:30,893 Speaker 2: addicted to that and ending up with twenty five on 563 00:27:31,013 --> 00:27:31,933 Speaker 2: suites around the house. 564 00:27:32,093 --> 00:27:33,693 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's hoping that doesn't happen. 565 00:27:34,373 --> 00:27:37,133 Speaker 2: The social media companies will keep appealing this case until 566 00:27:37,173 --> 00:27:39,893 Speaker 2: it goes away, says Scott. It's too important for them 567 00:27:39,933 --> 00:27:42,013 Speaker 2: not to the plane if will probably get nothing. The 568 00:27:42,053 --> 00:27:45,013 Speaker 2: parents need to take responsibility and blame themselves row than 569 00:27:45,053 --> 00:27:48,333 Speaker 2: social media. I mean, I would definitely say these parents 570 00:27:48,373 --> 00:27:52,532 Speaker 2: allowing her to be spending hours a day on social 571 00:27:52,533 --> 00:27:54,693 Speaker 2: media when she was six years old, there's got to 572 00:27:54,733 --> 00:27:56,173 Speaker 2: be some responsibility there. 573 00:27:56,013 --> 00:27:58,173 Speaker 3: Right, definitely, And now they've been rewarded with quite a 574 00:27:58,253 --> 00:28:00,813 Speaker 3: nice little payout. Actually, well, whether that goes to her 575 00:28:00,973 --> 00:28:02,293 Speaker 3: or her parents take a cut of that. 576 00:28:02,573 --> 00:28:04,693 Speaker 2: Well, six million dollars. But the problem for these social 577 00:28:04,733 --> 00:28:07,413 Speaker 2: media platforms is that's six million dollars. But there's thousands 578 00:28:07,453 --> 00:28:10,493 Speaker 2: of other Now that this has gone through, these thousands 579 00:28:10,493 --> 00:28:11,413 Speaker 2: of others. 580 00:28:11,253 --> 00:28:12,693 Speaker 3: Cases open the floodgates. 581 00:28:12,773 --> 00:28:15,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, because so many people can claim the same thing. 582 00:28:15,613 --> 00:28:17,613 Speaker 3: Taking your calls eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is 583 00:28:17,653 --> 00:28:21,653 Speaker 3: social media the new big tobacco? After we play some messages, 584 00:28:22,013 --> 00:28:25,453 Speaker 3: Ray reckons its responsibility rather than addictions will get to him. 585 00:28:25,453 --> 00:28:25,693 Speaker 14: Next. 586 00:28:25,733 --> 00:28:27,013 Speaker 3: It is nineteen to two. 587 00:28:28,293 --> 00:28:31,933 Speaker 1: Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt heat and Tyler Adams 588 00:28:31,933 --> 00:28:35,773 Speaker 1: Afternoons with Skoda? Can you crack the Scoda code? News 589 00:28:35,813 --> 00:28:36,493 Speaker 1: Talk sai'd be? 590 00:28:36,893 --> 00:28:39,893 Speaker 3: It is sixteen to two? So is social media as 591 00:28:39,933 --> 00:28:43,373 Speaker 3: addictive for cigarettes? That's the argument some US lawmakers are 592 00:28:43,453 --> 00:28:47,653 Speaker 3: making after Meta and Google lost a quite significant court 593 00:28:47,693 --> 00:28:51,693 Speaker 3: case effectively saying the mechanisms they use are deliberately designed 594 00:28:51,733 --> 00:28:54,853 Speaker 3: to be as addictive as possible. Eight hundred eighty ten 595 00:28:54,933 --> 00:28:58,213 Speaker 3: eighty is the number? Ray, How are you this afternoon? 596 00:28:59,533 --> 00:29:00,173 Speaker 12: Got a matte? 597 00:29:00,173 --> 00:29:00,813 Speaker 15: Can I tell her? 598 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:03,773 Speaker 3: Hey? Mate? Nice to chat? So you reckon it's responsibility 599 00:29:03,853 --> 00:29:04,733 Speaker 3: rather than addiction. 600 00:29:06,173 --> 00:29:06,613 Speaker 16: Yeah, I do. 601 00:29:06,893 --> 00:29:11,013 Speaker 17: So my phone tell me I'm on social media probably 602 00:29:11,733 --> 00:29:15,613 Speaker 17: four hours a day on average, and hey, that's that's 603 00:29:15,653 --> 00:29:17,773 Speaker 17: on me, Matt. Like, you know, it's on me that 604 00:29:18,053 --> 00:29:22,253 Speaker 17: I'm you know, doom scrolling on Instagram, and I take 605 00:29:22,293 --> 00:29:25,013 Speaker 17: full responsibility of that. What I try to do, I 606 00:29:25,093 --> 00:29:26,613 Speaker 17: try to turn my phone off so I can actually 607 00:29:26,653 --> 00:29:30,013 Speaker 17: spend meaningful time with my my mom and my wife 608 00:29:30,013 --> 00:29:33,373 Speaker 17: and other important people. But that's on me, now, Matt. 609 00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:35,533 Speaker 17: You've got kids, right, all right? 610 00:29:35,613 --> 00:29:35,853 Speaker 2: Yep? 611 00:29:36,733 --> 00:29:39,013 Speaker 17: Yeah, And so like you know, who's who's responsible for 612 00:29:39,053 --> 00:29:39,813 Speaker 17: what your kids do? 613 00:29:40,053 --> 00:29:43,733 Speaker 2: Like me, Yeah, when they were younger. 614 00:29:45,013 --> 00:29:47,053 Speaker 17: Yeah, I feel like when they were younger, that was 615 00:29:47,293 --> 00:29:48,293 Speaker 17: your responsibility with. 616 00:29:48,333 --> 00:29:53,053 Speaker 2: Every fear and so as a parent, you're always worrying 617 00:29:53,093 --> 00:29:54,773 Speaker 2: about these kind of things and it's a it's a 618 00:29:54,813 --> 00:29:58,093 Speaker 2: bit of a tough balance though, ray because you want 619 00:29:58,093 --> 00:29:59,893 Speaker 2: them to be a part of the world as it is. 620 00:30:00,733 --> 00:30:02,333 Speaker 2: And it's kind of kind of a similar thing that 621 00:30:02,373 --> 00:30:04,773 Speaker 2: people do in New Zealand with their kids and alcohol. 622 00:30:06,173 --> 00:30:08,693 Speaker 2: It's kind of similar in that they are going to 623 00:30:08,813 --> 00:30:11,933 Speaker 2: enter a society that drinks a lot less so resonally, 624 00:30:11,973 --> 00:30:14,893 Speaker 2: but drinks a lot, so you know, as a parent, 625 00:30:14,893 --> 00:30:16,573 Speaker 2: you'd probably be like, well, maybe maybe if they didn't 626 00:30:16,613 --> 00:30:19,333 Speaker 2: drink at all, But you have to sort of balance 627 00:30:19,373 --> 00:30:24,493 Speaker 2: between what society is and what your kid, what's safe 628 00:30:24,493 --> 00:30:26,213 Speaker 2: for your kid. There has this sort of a middle ground, 629 00:30:26,253 --> 00:30:27,893 Speaker 2: and I feel like that's the same with social media. 630 00:30:28,013 --> 00:30:29,973 Speaker 2: So I was lucky as my kids with the Corfe 631 00:30:30,093 --> 00:30:32,133 Speaker 2: and for the media and they banned new kids from 632 00:30:32,133 --> 00:30:35,653 Speaker 2: being on on any social media. It was controversial at 633 00:30:35,693 --> 00:30:38,133 Speaker 2: the time and it made global news. But they're intermediate 634 00:30:38,173 --> 00:30:40,773 Speaker 2: bandit and so they didn't have social media till they 635 00:30:40,773 --> 00:30:45,813 Speaker 2: were thirteen or fourteen or really anything like that, which which. 636 00:30:45,653 --> 00:30:46,213 Speaker 17: Was better than. 637 00:30:47,733 --> 00:30:47,973 Speaker 18: I think. 638 00:30:48,013 --> 00:30:51,653 Speaker 17: I think half the problem is Matt and I think 639 00:30:51,813 --> 00:30:57,333 Speaker 17: some parents use devices as almost like a new babyfitting device. Yeah, 640 00:30:57,333 --> 00:31:00,293 Speaker 17: I think the way to keep kids chart quiet when 641 00:31:00,333 --> 00:31:03,213 Speaker 17: they're yeah, when you've got guests around, or when you're 642 00:31:03,213 --> 00:31:06,133 Speaker 17: at a restaurant, when you're at a cafe. And again 643 00:31:06,253 --> 00:31:09,133 Speaker 17: I can't like that, to be fair Matt and Tayler. 644 00:31:09,173 --> 00:31:11,813 Speaker 17: I don't have kids, so I'm speaking from a position 645 00:31:11,893 --> 00:31:14,693 Speaker 17: of not having children's I don't actually I cannot be 646 00:31:14,773 --> 00:31:17,413 Speaker 17: informed about this, but I feel it comes back to 647 00:31:18,013 --> 00:31:22,373 Speaker 17: the responsibility is the pearents. It's on them how much 648 00:31:22,533 --> 00:31:27,693 Speaker 17: their children are on on their phones, on the devices 649 00:31:27,813 --> 00:31:31,573 Speaker 17: or online. And you know, I just don't think you 650 00:31:31,613 --> 00:31:34,493 Speaker 17: can blame social media because like kids are bright, right, So, 651 00:31:34,653 --> 00:31:37,493 Speaker 17: like even if they try to bring in like you know, 652 00:31:38,493 --> 00:31:40,933 Speaker 17: sixteen year old bands, kids will get around this. Kids 653 00:31:40,973 --> 00:31:43,213 Speaker 17: always have like you know, you think you think back 654 00:31:43,213 --> 00:31:45,173 Speaker 17: in like ouraday, Matt, Like if you want to go 655 00:31:45,773 --> 00:31:47,693 Speaker 17: get some alcohol, you just give some money for someone 656 00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:48,533 Speaker 17: to go on the bottle. 657 00:31:48,333 --> 00:31:53,533 Speaker 2: And get it for you, like you know, the older brother. 658 00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:57,813 Speaker 17: Yeah, and so in my opinion, I think this comes 659 00:31:57,853 --> 00:32:00,693 Speaker 17: back to the responsibility of parents. I think it's a 660 00:32:00,733 --> 00:32:04,573 Speaker 17: cop out to say that we've got to blame social media. 661 00:32:04,693 --> 00:32:08,693 Speaker 17: I think the people responsible are the parents. I admit 662 00:32:08,813 --> 00:32:11,093 Speaker 17: that I use social media too much. It's just doom 663 00:32:11,133 --> 00:32:14,653 Speaker 17: strolling off and no for no real reason. But that's 664 00:32:14,693 --> 00:32:17,973 Speaker 17: on me. That's my response study, that's that's my Saint Harry. 665 00:32:18,133 --> 00:32:21,253 Speaker 17: And for children, I think the responsibility is one hundred 666 00:32:21,253 --> 00:32:22,253 Speaker 17: percent on the parents. 667 00:32:23,173 --> 00:32:25,333 Speaker 3: I agree with you that personal responsibility should be the 668 00:32:25,373 --> 00:32:27,853 Speaker 3: priority here, but do you not think ray sometimes with 669 00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:31,493 Speaker 3: products when they come to the four like alcohol, like 670 00:32:31,613 --> 00:32:34,133 Speaker 3: gambling at some point the government said that should not 671 00:32:34,133 --> 00:32:35,653 Speaker 3: be for children, So we're going to step in and 672 00:32:35,733 --> 00:32:38,613 Speaker 3: have some regulations around that. There is no regulations around 673 00:32:38,613 --> 00:32:41,413 Speaker 3: social media as it stands, and people may say that's 674 00:32:41,453 --> 00:32:44,813 Speaker 3: over each but I think there is an element there 675 00:32:44,853 --> 00:32:48,413 Speaker 3: that government have levers to help parents to their best ability, 676 00:32:48,973 --> 00:32:52,373 Speaker 3: enact personal responsibility and to do what's right for their kids. 677 00:32:52,413 --> 00:32:54,813 Speaker 3: But sometimes a bit of regulation helps them do that. 678 00:32:56,173 --> 00:32:59,853 Speaker 17: Yes and no, but I think it's around it's around culture. Taylerkas, 679 00:33:00,213 --> 00:33:04,493 Speaker 17: you know it is illegal for under eighteen year olds 680 00:33:04,533 --> 00:33:07,853 Speaker 17: to buy babes. How many under eighteen year olds do 681 00:33:07,933 --> 00:33:11,373 Speaker 17: you know personally that vapes? Like I waken them and 682 00:33:11,373 --> 00:33:14,373 Speaker 17: s with young people and basically every single young person 683 00:33:14,413 --> 00:33:18,093 Speaker 17: I know who would be under sucteen vapes And you go, well, 684 00:33:18,493 --> 00:33:21,253 Speaker 17: so theath things allegal for under eighteen year olds, as 685 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:24,533 Speaker 17: is drinking alcohol. But how many people do we know 686 00:33:24,653 --> 00:33:28,173 Speaker 17: that drink and vape when they're under eighteen? And I 687 00:33:28,173 --> 00:33:33,013 Speaker 17: guess might be listeners that like, regulation doesn't actually help 688 00:33:33,533 --> 00:33:36,373 Speaker 17: resolver issues if there's a culture supporting something. 689 00:33:36,573 --> 00:33:40,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll give you saying what's the parental responsibilities? They race? 690 00:33:40,213 --> 00:33:43,573 Speaker 2: Some people just have rubbish parents. Some people just have 691 00:33:43,693 --> 00:33:47,773 Speaker 2: punishing parents that do what you say, they'll just silent 692 00:33:47,853 --> 00:33:50,813 Speaker 2: that they will just give their kids a device to 693 00:33:50,853 --> 00:33:52,933 Speaker 2: shut them up. You see it all the time, you 694 00:33:52,973 --> 00:33:56,813 Speaker 2: see kids. You see parents pushing their kids in prams 695 00:33:56,813 --> 00:33:58,853 Speaker 2: and the kids got headphones on and is looking into 696 00:33:58,893 --> 00:34:02,333 Speaker 2: an iPad, which to me is absolutely insane. If a 697 00:34:02,413 --> 00:34:04,213 Speaker 2: kid can't look out of a pram and see some 698 00:34:04,533 --> 00:34:07,453 Speaker 2: you know, go oh, bird, digger, you know, yeah, all 699 00:34:07,453 --> 00:34:10,453 Speaker 2: those kind of things. But so if you're if you're 700 00:34:10,493 --> 00:34:15,453 Speaker 2: a child, can you realistically can resist these systems that 701 00:34:15,493 --> 00:34:18,813 Speaker 2: are designed by the most powerful companies in the world 702 00:34:18,933 --> 00:34:25,533 Speaker 2: using behavioral psychology and because of how you know digital 703 00:34:25,533 --> 00:34:28,733 Speaker 2: technology works now, the full force of a giant, some 704 00:34:28,773 --> 00:34:31,773 Speaker 2: of the most valuable companies that have existed can be 705 00:34:31,853 --> 00:34:36,933 Speaker 2: focused onto one person. So can can kids really be 706 00:34:36,973 --> 00:34:40,893 Speaker 2: expected to resist that if they have rather parents? 707 00:34:41,013 --> 00:34:43,172 Speaker 17: Absolutely not. And like again I come back to it's 708 00:34:43,213 --> 00:34:46,733 Speaker 17: a cultural issue, man, Like, if we're living in a 709 00:34:46,733 --> 00:34:52,173 Speaker 17: culture where parents are willing for their children to be 710 00:34:52,293 --> 00:34:56,253 Speaker 17: given an internet capable device at a young age and 711 00:34:56,573 --> 00:34:58,693 Speaker 17: go on social media where they're not being watched to 712 00:34:58,693 --> 00:35:01,573 Speaker 17: do that, it's a huge problem. Like and what do 713 00:35:01,653 --> 00:35:04,973 Speaker 17: we do to solve that. I think like it comes 714 00:35:05,013 --> 00:35:10,573 Speaker 17: back to providing information to parents and supporting parents to 715 00:35:10,613 --> 00:35:14,613 Speaker 17: make better decisions about giving young people anthony colored devices 716 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:16,453 Speaker 17: because Matt, you're mean about the same as Raeyan. So 717 00:35:16,453 --> 00:35:19,933 Speaker 17: I didn't get my first fone tized twenty and when 718 00:35:19,973 --> 00:35:22,013 Speaker 17: I got it when I was twenty in the nineteen nineties, 719 00:35:22,573 --> 00:35:24,093 Speaker 17: I would have been one of the first people my 720 00:35:24,093 --> 00:35:26,293 Speaker 17: friend group to have a phone. And back then a 721 00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,413 Speaker 17: final a phone was the phone you could you could call, 722 00:35:28,733 --> 00:35:29,973 Speaker 17: you could see text messages. 723 00:35:30,013 --> 00:35:30,653 Speaker 15: There was no. 724 00:35:33,013 --> 00:35:36,732 Speaker 3: But yeah, play great game, great game, Yes, three tens. 725 00:35:38,333 --> 00:35:39,813 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call. Ray, really 726 00:35:39,853 --> 00:35:40,373 Speaker 2: appreciate it. 727 00:35:40,453 --> 00:35:42,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, some great points there. What do you say? Do 728 00:35:42,133 --> 00:35:44,693 Speaker 3: you agree with Ray? Is it a personal and parental 729 00:35:44,733 --> 00:35:47,653 Speaker 3: responsibility when it comes to social media? Back for shortly 730 00:35:47,693 --> 00:35:48,853 Speaker 3: it is nine to two. 731 00:35:50,213 --> 00:35:53,772 Speaker 4: Matt Heath, Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred 732 00:35:53,813 --> 00:35:57,933 Speaker 4: and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons. 733 00:35:57,333 --> 00:35:58,653 Speaker 6: News TALKSB. 734 00:35:59,653 --> 00:36:01,573 Speaker 3: News talks there B it is seven to two. This 735 00:36:01,613 --> 00:36:02,293 Speaker 3: textasy is great. 736 00:36:02,293 --> 00:36:04,453 Speaker 2: Show is always lads, But I have to disagree today. 737 00:36:04,453 --> 00:36:06,253 Speaker 2: This is just a flash in the pan the current 738 00:36:06,293 --> 00:36:09,373 Speaker 2: freak out. It's like the coronavirusrus and it goes back 739 00:36:09,413 --> 00:36:13,173 Speaker 2: to our twelve o'clock, our coronavirus phases. We are freaking 740 00:36:13,213 --> 00:36:15,813 Speaker 2: out about fuel. Then the next thing will come along. 741 00:36:15,933 --> 00:36:17,693 Speaker 2: That'll be for a while while we sit on the 742 00:36:17,733 --> 00:36:20,013 Speaker 2: bed of other things we freak out about, currently social 743 00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:23,453 Speaker 2: media and various gender issues. In the end, everyone has 744 00:36:23,493 --> 00:36:26,053 Speaker 2: to chart their own course. It's like a fool in 745 00:36:26,093 --> 00:36:29,013 Speaker 2: their money. Someone will get it, SIGs, booze, gambling, sugar, 746 00:36:29,173 --> 00:36:34,413 Speaker 2: even sex and poor points. As a parent, it's so 747 00:36:34,453 --> 00:36:36,533 Speaker 2: much easier to tell your kid that you can't do 748 00:36:36,653 --> 00:36:39,133 Speaker 2: that because it's illegal. If it wasn't illegal, I'd be 749 00:36:39,133 --> 00:36:42,333 Speaker 2: fighting with them even more. Sarah, Welcome to the show. 750 00:36:43,333 --> 00:36:45,853 Speaker 3: Hi, how are you very well? What's your thoughts? 751 00:36:47,133 --> 00:36:49,613 Speaker 19: Absolutely needs an age ban on it. I think what 752 00:36:49,693 --> 00:36:52,692 Speaker 19: people tend to forget because they don't actually realize it, 753 00:36:52,733 --> 00:36:57,053 Speaker 19: is that we're giving kids exposure to things before they've 754 00:36:57,053 --> 00:37:02,733 Speaker 19: developed the skills of critical thinking. And if anyone's actually interested, 755 00:37:03,213 --> 00:37:06,533 Speaker 19: create a profile that is a fourteen sixteen year old 756 00:37:06,573 --> 00:37:10,493 Speaker 19: male and see what content they're getting delivered. The algorithm 757 00:37:10,533 --> 00:37:15,933 Speaker 19: delivers significantly different and very dangerous content. It's not the 758 00:37:15,973 --> 00:37:19,013 Speaker 19: funny cleaning memes or cat memes that you might see 759 00:37:19,053 --> 00:37:21,133 Speaker 19: as a thirty five or forty five year old mum 760 00:37:21,133 --> 00:37:26,333 Speaker 19: and dad. It is targeted click rage bait design to 761 00:37:26,413 --> 00:37:29,293 Speaker 19: change the way young people are thinking and see the world. 762 00:37:29,373 --> 00:37:30,893 Speaker 19: It's incredibly dangerous. 763 00:37:31,053 --> 00:37:34,093 Speaker 2: Oh, the political stuff coming in is shocking. I always 764 00:37:34,093 --> 00:37:36,373 Speaker 2: think if anyone gets to their views from TikTok politically 765 00:37:36,413 --> 00:37:38,173 Speaker 2: that can be summed up in a minute, then they 766 00:37:38,253 --> 00:37:41,053 Speaker 2: have not been given any information to follow at all. 767 00:37:41,133 --> 00:37:43,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, propaganda, it's a completely So. 768 00:37:43,493 --> 00:37:46,533 Speaker 19: Also where else are they give them the opportunity to learn? 769 00:37:46,653 --> 00:37:49,453 Speaker 19: Where else they can look? You know, everyone kind of 770 00:37:49,493 --> 00:37:54,573 Speaker 19: complains about radio stations and news feeds and CNN and Fox, 771 00:37:54,613 --> 00:37:57,333 Speaker 19: and you know in New Zealand obviously there's left and 772 00:37:57,413 --> 00:38:02,053 Speaker 19: right wing newspapers. But what these guys are seeing is 773 00:38:02,093 --> 00:38:03,692 Speaker 19: said to them, and they're looking at it for one 774 00:38:03,773 --> 00:38:07,413 Speaker 19: hundred hours easily in a week, and it's very easy. 775 00:38:07,493 --> 00:38:08,252 Speaker 20: Like you look at how. 776 00:38:08,173 --> 00:38:11,253 Speaker 19: Young people are more susceptible to cults like this is 777 00:38:11,293 --> 00:38:15,853 Speaker 19: another example of them just getting over exposure and then 778 00:38:15,933 --> 00:38:20,973 Speaker 19: more numb to like you know, dangerous shooting games and 779 00:38:21,013 --> 00:38:24,173 Speaker 19: PlayStations they've got age restrictions on them now because it 780 00:38:24,293 --> 00:38:27,813 Speaker 19: desensitizes people to violence, and people just need to go 781 00:38:27,853 --> 00:38:31,173 Speaker 19: and watch manis there and see what is being served 782 00:38:31,333 --> 00:38:34,533 Speaker 19: to young brains before developing critical thinking skills. 783 00:38:35,133 --> 00:38:37,373 Speaker 2: Thank you for you cool Sarah. We've got to go 784 00:38:38,093 --> 00:38:41,373 Speaker 2: final text on this, lads, I feel like this is 785 00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:45,013 Speaker 2: generational harm. Parents at alcohol and smokes removed the socials 786 00:38:45,093 --> 00:38:47,213 Speaker 2: last week. The first couple of days, my brain was 787 00:38:47,213 --> 00:38:49,573 Speaker 2: subconsciously looking for it. One week in now and I 788 00:38:49,653 --> 00:38:52,653 Speaker 2: have no desire to lot. Brain feels fresh and way 789 00:38:52,693 --> 00:38:53,813 Speaker 2: more at present. 790 00:38:54,093 --> 00:38:56,453 Speaker 3: What a great text to end that discussion on. Thank 791 00:38:56,493 --> 00:38:58,652 Speaker 3: you very much everyone who gave us a buzz and 792 00:38:58,773 --> 00:39:01,613 Speaker 3: sent through your thoughts via text. Really enjoyed that there'd 793 00:39:01,613 --> 00:39:03,813 Speaker 3: be more to come on the old social media situation. 794 00:39:04,093 --> 00:39:06,373 Speaker 3: But coming up after two o'clock, we want to talk 795 00:39:06,413 --> 00:39:10,293 Speaker 3: about doggies. This was after a great story out of China, 796 00:39:10,573 --> 00:39:13,853 Speaker 3: a corgy led a great escape out of a butcher's van. 797 00:39:14,133 --> 00:39:16,013 Speaker 3: I think we all know where those dogs were hitting 798 00:39:16,533 --> 00:39:19,413 Speaker 3: and lead a bunch of dogs on a seventeen kilometer 799 00:39:19,493 --> 00:39:21,293 Speaker 3: journey back home. But the question I've got for you 800 00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:24,172 Speaker 3: is what is the greatest dog breed ever. Oh wait, 801 00:39:24,293 --> 00:39:28,573 Speaker 3: hundred is the number to call? Is it corgyes? This 802 00:39:28,613 --> 00:39:32,373 Speaker 3: is going to be controversial if our news is next of. 803 00:39:32,573 --> 00:39:37,213 Speaker 1: Big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything 804 00:39:37,253 --> 00:39:37,733 Speaker 1: in between. 805 00:39:38,133 --> 00:39:39,973 Speaker 6: Kids Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 806 00:39:40,013 --> 00:39:45,253 Speaker 4: Afternoon Squi Shoda news dog said, the. 807 00:39:44,213 --> 00:39:47,333 Speaker 3: Very good afternoon. Gu seven pass too, hope you're having 808 00:39:47,333 --> 00:39:49,413 Speaker 3: a great Friday afternoon. 809 00:39:49,853 --> 00:39:56,373 Speaker 2: We are now going to hit a very very serious topic, 810 00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:00,133 Speaker 2: so sobering stuff. 811 00:40:00,213 --> 00:40:01,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, brace yourself this one. 812 00:40:01,853 --> 00:40:03,213 Speaker 2: And but before we get there, I want to talk 813 00:40:03,213 --> 00:40:08,013 Speaker 2: about carrot cake. Lease, because you're making a cake for 814 00:40:08,053 --> 00:40:10,212 Speaker 2: your a lovely partner, Iave, for her birth. 815 00:40:10,373 --> 00:40:11,613 Speaker 3: She's requested carrots. 816 00:40:13,053 --> 00:40:15,933 Speaker 2: But I thought, but before I said something that's got 817 00:40:15,933 --> 00:40:18,373 Speaker 2: people really angry, I said that you can use any 818 00:40:18,413 --> 00:40:19,373 Speaker 2: bananas and a bananaca. 819 00:40:19,493 --> 00:40:21,013 Speaker 3: Controversial, very controversy. 820 00:40:21,053 --> 00:40:22,733 Speaker 2: As you said, you need to use old bananas. 821 00:40:22,773 --> 00:40:24,013 Speaker 3: Yep, you've got to get them browned up. 822 00:40:24,373 --> 00:40:26,812 Speaker 2: Baking with bananas. There is this text you use older 823 00:40:26,813 --> 00:40:29,413 Speaker 2: bananas because they're softer and sweeter, easier to mash and 824 00:40:29,453 --> 00:40:33,373 Speaker 2: taste better. Carrot cake does not need old carrots good, Okay. 825 00:40:33,413 --> 00:40:36,973 Speaker 2: Fresher ones are easier to grate but can't forget the 826 00:40:37,053 --> 00:40:41,893 Speaker 2: cream cheese frosting. And last year I really wanted to 827 00:40:41,893 --> 00:40:44,573 Speaker 2: go see Tool, but I couldn't afford the ticks much 828 00:40:44,613 --> 00:40:47,013 Speaker 2: less than the flight from Wellington. So my husband ordered 829 00:40:47,053 --> 00:40:49,693 Speaker 2: a cake from our son's friend's mum who is a 830 00:40:49,693 --> 00:40:53,293 Speaker 2: cake mixer, with an edible photo of Eden Park on top. 831 00:40:53,413 --> 00:40:55,613 Speaker 2: Since you couldn't go to Eden Park, I thought I'd 832 00:40:55,653 --> 00:40:58,893 Speaker 2: bring Eden Park to you. So sweet of him, Meg, Oh, 833 00:40:58,973 --> 00:41:01,413 Speaker 2: this is nice. That is a good hubby right there. 834 00:41:01,493 --> 00:41:03,373 Speaker 2: But that's good to know. So fresh carrots are the best. 835 00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:05,493 Speaker 2: I don't need to let them sitting sit for a 836 00:41:05,493 --> 00:41:08,133 Speaker 2: week Tool Planet Spark Arena, though, didn't they not Edenburg? 837 00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:08,813 Speaker 3: I think you're right. 838 00:41:08,853 --> 00:41:10,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ruin the gest to the gess. 839 00:41:10,733 --> 00:41:12,692 Speaker 3: It was a lovely story. Yeah yeah, yeah, so take 840 00:41:12,693 --> 00:41:13,172 Speaker 3: it as red. 841 00:41:13,573 --> 00:41:15,613 Speaker 2: The Robbie Williams tickets are on sale now, aren't. 842 00:41:15,373 --> 00:41:17,413 Speaker 3: They They are? Yeah yeah, a lot of people excited 843 00:41:17,413 --> 00:41:17,893 Speaker 3: about that. 844 00:41:17,813 --> 00:41:19,973 Speaker 2: Tooll and Robbie Williams fans. I wonder what the crossover 845 00:41:20,133 --> 00:41:25,133 Speaker 2: is carrot and pineapple cake, Tyler, Any carrots intend to 846 00:41:25,133 --> 00:41:28,933 Speaker 2: crush pineapple to keep it moist? And sweet carrot cake 847 00:41:28,973 --> 00:41:31,933 Speaker 2: recipe they've got the country the key country girls got 848 00:41:31,933 --> 00:41:32,293 Speaker 2: one here. 849 00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:34,613 Speaker 3: Does that sound like something that would go together, carrot 850 00:41:34,613 --> 00:41:37,453 Speaker 3: and pineapple? I don't know if they would be bedfellows. 851 00:41:37,493 --> 00:41:39,252 Speaker 3: I mean that kind of sounds like peaches and fish 852 00:41:39,293 --> 00:41:39,493 Speaker 3: to me. 853 00:41:39,933 --> 00:41:43,613 Speaker 2: Well, what about pumpkin pie. Pumpkin pie is delicious, whereas 854 00:41:43,613 --> 00:41:48,013 Speaker 2: pumpkins are an abomination on the planet. So sometimes things 855 00:41:48,693 --> 00:41:52,853 Speaker 2: in the sweet category are okay when you're horrific. 856 00:41:53,333 --> 00:41:55,533 Speaker 3: It's a fair point. Yeah, yeah, I take that back. 857 00:41:55,533 --> 00:41:58,493 Speaker 2: How was pumpkin pie so delicious and pumpkins so good? 858 00:41:58,693 --> 00:42:00,213 Speaker 2: Such a foul beast? 859 00:42:00,413 --> 00:42:03,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much for all those suggestions on 860 00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:05,973 Speaker 3: carrot cake. Keep them coming in on nine two, nine 861 00:42:05,973 --> 00:42:08,333 Speaker 3: to two, But stand by because we want to get 862 00:42:08,373 --> 00:42:10,773 Speaker 3: a little bit serious for a Friday afternoon. This is 863 00:42:10,813 --> 00:42:13,013 Speaker 3: a big issue going on right now. So it was 864 00:42:13,053 --> 00:42:15,573 Speaker 3: a powerful story that emerged out of China. A group 865 00:42:15,613 --> 00:42:18,093 Speaker 3: of dogs were allegedly stolen from a rural village and 866 00:42:18,093 --> 00:42:19,613 Speaker 3: they were crammed into them. 867 00:42:19,973 --> 00:42:22,173 Speaker 2: Do we need to go allegedly that's in China. We 868 00:42:22,213 --> 00:42:22,652 Speaker 2: don't care. 869 00:42:22,733 --> 00:42:23,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were stolen. 870 00:42:24,053 --> 00:42:29,133 Speaker 2: These these dog people stealing dogs to turn them into 871 00:42:29,293 --> 00:42:32,652 Speaker 2: food for humans. Yep, it's just it's a good point. 872 00:42:32,693 --> 00:42:34,373 Speaker 3: The BSA are not going to come after me, so 873 00:42:34,733 --> 00:42:37,053 Speaker 3: let's just scrub out allegedly. I don't need to buy 874 00:42:37,053 --> 00:42:39,853 Speaker 3: it by any sort of media law. In this particular story, 875 00:42:39,293 --> 00:42:42,293 Speaker 3: I'm going to start again. A powerful story emerged out 876 00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:44,813 Speaker 3: of China. A group of dogs were stolen from a 877 00:42:44,893 --> 00:42:47,653 Speaker 3: rural village and crammed into a butcher's van, seemingly destined 878 00:42:47,653 --> 00:42:51,093 Speaker 3: for a grim and heartbreaking fate, But in an extraordinary 879 00:42:51,173 --> 00:42:53,893 Speaker 3: turn of events, at Corgy took the lead and what 880 00:42:53,933 --> 00:42:56,613 Speaker 3: can only be described as a daring escape, somehow managing 881 00:42:56,613 --> 00:42:59,493 Speaker 3: to break free from the vehicle. It didn't just save itself, 882 00:42:59,653 --> 00:43:02,773 Speaker 3: it helped the others get out too. Then, showing remarkable 883 00:43:02,813 --> 00:43:05,613 Speaker 3: instinct and determination, the small dog guided the group on 884 00:43:05,653 --> 00:43:10,413 Speaker 3: a roughly seventeen kilometer journey back towards, navigating unfamiliar terrain 885 00:43:10,493 --> 00:43:13,493 Speaker 3: and avoiding danger along the way. In a story that 886 00:43:13,573 --> 00:43:16,093 Speaker 3: feels just too incredible to be real. It's like Disney. 887 00:43:16,133 --> 00:43:19,252 Speaker 2: It feels like a Pixar movie or a DreamWorks movie, 888 00:43:19,253 --> 00:43:22,053 Speaker 2: doesn't it It certainly does. Someone's probably bought the rights A 889 00:43:22,053 --> 00:43:24,933 Speaker 2: bit heavy for kids, that it's they're off to the neckers. 890 00:43:24,933 --> 00:43:27,652 Speaker 2: But then again, you know, and lots of these movies. 891 00:43:27,653 --> 00:43:29,413 Speaker 2: Someone's about to be eaten. I'll tell you what. Two 892 00:43:29,533 --> 00:43:31,333 Speaker 2: Story three was pretty grim when they were nearly going 893 00:43:31,333 --> 00:43:32,133 Speaker 2: into that incinerator. 894 00:43:32,213 --> 00:43:32,692 Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. 895 00:43:32,733 --> 00:43:35,253 Speaker 2: Yeah from God do like a little bit of drama 896 00:43:35,333 --> 00:43:37,853 Speaker 2: and the stories isn't someone planning to eat one hundred 897 00:43:37,853 --> 00:43:39,693 Speaker 2: and one downations. 898 00:43:39,213 --> 00:43:41,613 Speaker 3: They were going to use their fur yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, 899 00:43:41,613 --> 00:43:42,533 Speaker 3: they wanted to make. 900 00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:44,053 Speaker 2: The good one. But it looks like what I take 901 00:43:44,093 --> 00:43:45,973 Speaker 2: from the story is that the Corgy is the leader 902 00:43:46,013 --> 00:43:49,333 Speaker 2: of dogs because the Corgi led this escape out of 903 00:43:49,373 --> 00:43:54,973 Speaker 2: the dog food van and took them on the seventeen 904 00:43:55,053 --> 00:43:59,053 Speaker 2: k journey. So are they the king of dogs? Are 905 00:43:59,053 --> 00:44:00,373 Speaker 2: they the greatest dog of all time? 906 00:44:01,053 --> 00:44:01,813 Speaker 3: Who would have thought? 907 00:44:01,853 --> 00:44:02,493 Speaker 2: If not? Why? 908 00:44:02,613 --> 00:44:04,813 Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean when you look at a corgy, and 909 00:44:04,853 --> 00:44:06,493 Speaker 3: I haven't been much of a fan of Corgy's, I'm 910 00:44:06,493 --> 00:44:08,013 Speaker 3: just going to put it out there, but when you 911 00:44:08,053 --> 00:44:11,453 Speaker 3: look at to me, it does not scream leader the 912 00:44:11,613 --> 00:44:14,453 Speaker 3: kind of sausage dog shape like, but they're not a 913 00:44:14,453 --> 00:44:16,493 Speaker 3: sausage dog. They got little tiny legs. 914 00:44:16,653 --> 00:44:18,653 Speaker 2: Is because they're a queen adjacent. 915 00:44:18,573 --> 00:44:21,973 Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, I think my image of Corky 916 00:44:22,093 --> 00:44:23,853 Speaker 3: is just those two little Corkies by the Queen and 917 00:44:23,893 --> 00:44:25,732 Speaker 3: they just seemed a little bit lazy. They had life 918 00:44:25,733 --> 00:44:29,173 Speaker 3: too good. So that's tarnished my view of Corgi's across 919 00:44:29,493 --> 00:44:32,652 Speaker 3: the country and the world. But there's a lot of 920 00:44:32,653 --> 00:44:35,653 Speaker 3: Coogi lovers out there. Our boss is one of them. Yeah, 921 00:44:35,013 --> 00:44:36,172 Speaker 3: he's got. 922 00:44:36,093 --> 00:44:38,213 Speaker 2: A couple of Corgies recently lost to corky trigy. 923 00:44:38,293 --> 00:44:39,333 Speaker 3: He did, he did sadly. 924 00:44:39,453 --> 00:44:43,933 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the thing with what's the greatest dog breed? 925 00:44:44,213 --> 00:44:46,212 Speaker 2: And it's good on the show because we've talked about 926 00:44:46,213 --> 00:44:48,733 Speaker 2: the most the bad dog breeds before, haven't we We have. 927 00:44:48,933 --> 00:44:52,133 Speaker 2: We've talked a lot about dogs attacking people up north, 928 00:44:52,613 --> 00:44:55,773 Speaker 2: who've talked about some terrible incidents with dogs. Because the 929 00:44:55,813 --> 00:45:00,053 Speaker 2: thing with dogs is the most powerful dog isn't necessarily 930 00:45:00,653 --> 00:45:03,093 Speaker 2: the best dog. You know, the dog with the most 931 00:45:03,173 --> 00:45:07,212 Speaker 2: utility in life, the most functional dog, because most people 932 00:45:07,253 --> 00:45:12,173 Speaker 2: aren't running away working dog. Often the dogs we like 933 00:45:12,613 --> 00:45:16,013 Speaker 2: we like them mainly because they're small, ugly and useless. 934 00:45:16,573 --> 00:45:19,453 Speaker 2: That's a weird quirk of being a human. We want 935 00:45:19,493 --> 00:45:27,293 Speaker 2: to spend time and resources on absolutely ugly, useless muppets 936 00:45:27,733 --> 00:45:34,013 Speaker 2: of animals that are a absolute insult to their genetic ancestry. 937 00:45:34,573 --> 00:45:37,133 Speaker 2: A wolf would look at my dog Colin and just go, 938 00:45:37,373 --> 00:45:39,133 Speaker 2: oh my god, what if we become. 939 00:45:38,933 --> 00:45:40,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be like the Spartan you know in the 940 00:45:40,973 --> 00:45:42,933 Speaker 3: dog world, they just chuck those dogs over the side 941 00:45:42,973 --> 00:45:45,253 Speaker 3: of a cliff. They wouldn't last well. 942 00:45:45,293 --> 00:45:49,453 Speaker 2: Often think about that if the apocalypse came and Colin 943 00:45:49,493 --> 00:45:51,853 Speaker 2: had to go and run and join a pack of dogs, 944 00:45:52,093 --> 00:45:55,533 Speaker 2: he'd be dinner on day one. Yeah, for some kind 945 00:45:55,573 --> 00:45:56,333 Speaker 2: of German shepherd. 946 00:45:56,533 --> 00:45:58,413 Speaker 3: If you didn't make Jester, he'd be dinner. Oh eight 947 00:45:58,493 --> 00:46:00,333 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 948 00:46:00,413 --> 00:46:03,093 Speaker 3: So what is the greatest dog breed? If you're a 949 00:46:03,133 --> 00:46:06,133 Speaker 3: corky owner, is this typical of a corky to take 950 00:46:06,173 --> 00:46:08,853 Speaker 3: the lead. But if you've got an the dog love 951 00:46:08,893 --> 00:46:10,653 Speaker 3: to hear from you, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. 952 00:46:10,773 --> 00:46:13,453 Speaker 2: And supplementary question seeing is this is what started it 953 00:46:13,533 --> 00:46:16,853 Speaker 2: with this van that was taking these dogs to be 954 00:46:17,253 --> 00:46:21,652 Speaker 2: turned into human food. Have you tasted dog? What's it like? 955 00:46:21,893 --> 00:46:25,413 Speaker 2: Nineteen nine two German German short haired pointer are the 956 00:46:25,413 --> 00:46:27,013 Speaker 2: best dogs ever? Says Sharon. 957 00:46:27,613 --> 00:46:31,213 Speaker 3: German shorthaed pointer sound like a German shipperd. 958 00:46:32,213 --> 00:46:34,813 Speaker 2: I don't know a German short haired pointer. 959 00:46:35,533 --> 00:46:37,933 Speaker 3: All right, all right, keep those ticks coming through A 960 00:46:38,013 --> 00:46:40,212 Speaker 3: nine two nine two. But oh, eight hundred eighty ten 961 00:46:40,333 --> 00:46:43,053 Speaker 3: eighty is the number to call? What is the greatest 962 00:46:43,493 --> 00:46:48,333 Speaker 3: dog breed ever? It is fourteen past two your home. 963 00:46:48,133 --> 00:46:52,573 Speaker 1: Of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons call eight 964 00:46:52,653 --> 00:46:55,013 Speaker 1: hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said. 965 00:46:54,813 --> 00:46:58,613 Speaker 3: Be sixteen past two. So what is the greatest dog 966 00:46:58,693 --> 00:46:59,652 Speaker 3: breed of all time? 967 00:46:59,693 --> 00:46:59,813 Speaker 21: Oh? 968 00:46:59,853 --> 00:47:03,253 Speaker 3: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Keen to hear your opinion 969 00:47:03,253 --> 00:47:05,533 Speaker 3: on that. Nineteen nine two texts the sixes. 970 00:47:05,573 --> 00:47:07,652 Speaker 2: All dogs are equal, good and bad. Some barks, some 971 00:47:07,693 --> 00:47:10,212 Speaker 2: have bad skin and some bites, some get bad back, 972 00:47:10,333 --> 00:47:14,013 Speaker 2: some shed everywhere, some stink. It's just about weighing up 973 00:47:14,053 --> 00:47:16,253 Speaker 2: the good and the bad. I have a poodle cute, 974 00:47:16,293 --> 00:47:18,373 Speaker 2: but bark so much I want to remove her throat. 975 00:47:19,253 --> 00:47:23,933 Speaker 3: Okay, that's certainly dad, share And how are you bring 976 00:47:23,973 --> 00:47:24,293 Speaker 3: us back? 977 00:47:25,693 --> 00:47:25,973 Speaker 18: Hello? 978 00:47:26,813 --> 00:47:29,093 Speaker 22: I just said I've explained we used to be breeders 979 00:47:29,093 --> 00:47:31,173 Speaker 22: of German shorted pointers. I'm the one that gave you 980 00:47:31,213 --> 00:47:35,573 Speaker 22: the text about y. Yeah. They're gorgeous dogs, they're faithful, 981 00:47:36,213 --> 00:47:41,733 Speaker 22: beautiful natures, good with kids. They're not yeppy, they're very loyal, 982 00:47:42,653 --> 00:47:47,172 Speaker 22: easy dogs to look after. They don't really shed. They're 983 00:47:47,173 --> 00:47:48,573 Speaker 22: just lovely dogs. They really are. 984 00:47:49,173 --> 00:47:50,733 Speaker 3: Well, they are good looking dog. It's kind of like 985 00:47:50,773 --> 00:47:52,453 Speaker 3: a vizzler but with spots. 986 00:47:53,053 --> 00:47:55,533 Speaker 22: Well, I guess you could say that, although the Hungarians 987 00:47:55,573 --> 00:47:58,533 Speaker 22: would be very happy gut you calling them that. But yeah, 988 00:47:59,173 --> 00:48:02,373 Speaker 22: but they are lovely dogs. Yeah, there's not too far. 989 00:48:02,333 --> 00:48:03,093 Speaker 5: Removed a visit. 990 00:48:03,213 --> 00:48:04,293 Speaker 22: There are other lives dog as well. 991 00:48:04,333 --> 00:48:06,933 Speaker 2: Actually, do they have a downside because the text I 992 00:48:06,933 --> 00:48:08,613 Speaker 2: was just reading it before said every dog there's a 993 00:48:08,653 --> 00:48:11,213 Speaker 2: balance between you know traits. 994 00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:14,692 Speaker 22: Well, no, that we found we own. We had them 995 00:48:14,693 --> 00:48:18,253 Speaker 22: for many over twenty thirty years. We had always had 996 00:48:18,253 --> 00:48:20,773 Speaker 22: German shortyed pointers. The only thing is there a bit 997 00:48:20,773 --> 00:48:23,093 Speaker 22: of a bell crow dog can be you know, they'd 998 00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:26,533 Speaker 22: like to know what's going on. They quite nosy. But 999 00:48:26,573 --> 00:48:31,533 Speaker 22: apart from that, no, they're not aggressive. They're just you know, No, 1000 00:48:31,653 --> 00:48:33,493 Speaker 22: I haven't found the downside, not really. 1001 00:48:34,093 --> 00:48:37,053 Speaker 2: So they're a gun dog, aren't they originally? Yeah? 1002 00:48:37,173 --> 00:48:38,493 Speaker 22: So they wet. 1003 00:48:39,173 --> 00:48:42,013 Speaker 2: So in terms of exercising them, is that is that 1004 00:48:42,133 --> 00:48:43,413 Speaker 2: a lot of fetch going on? 1005 00:48:44,733 --> 00:48:47,013 Speaker 22: Well, not allows us to exercise themselves. Mind, you re 1006 00:48:47,053 --> 00:48:49,573 Speaker 22: live a lifestyle blocks of their healths. But we've taken 1007 00:48:49,613 --> 00:48:51,293 Speaker 22: on the beach when you could. You know, you're allowed 1008 00:48:51,293 --> 00:48:52,773 Speaker 22: to as well, and they just don't go off and 1009 00:48:52,773 --> 00:48:54,493 Speaker 22: do their own thing. They don't really need you to 1010 00:48:54,693 --> 00:48:55,493 Speaker 22: entertain them either. 1011 00:48:55,813 --> 00:48:57,733 Speaker 3: Do they get on well with cats? 1012 00:48:58,133 --> 00:49:00,853 Speaker 22: Well ours did, yes, we both. Our German shorty point 1013 00:49:00,853 --> 00:49:03,772 Speaker 22: has got on you know all our German short point 1014 00:49:03,813 --> 00:49:06,093 Speaker 22: has got on with all our cats. Yep, no problems. 1015 00:49:06,453 --> 00:49:08,893 Speaker 2: They've got quite a serious face, haven't they of a 1016 00:49:09,133 --> 00:49:11,293 Speaker 2: sort of a I don't know what you call it. 1017 00:49:11,293 --> 00:49:12,013 Speaker 3: They're all business. 1018 00:49:12,013 --> 00:49:14,453 Speaker 2: They look like they look quite yeah business. 1019 00:49:14,493 --> 00:49:17,493 Speaker 22: Yeah, they have a soft mouth because they're bird dogs 1020 00:49:17,493 --> 00:49:19,333 Speaker 22: for getting the you know, bucks and things out of 1021 00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:19,733 Speaker 22: the water. 1022 00:49:20,893 --> 00:49:23,652 Speaker 2: Oh yes, they got the gels coming down. Yeah, oh 1023 00:49:23,693 --> 00:49:25,772 Speaker 2: thank you for that. Sharon appreciate that. The special said 1024 00:49:25,773 --> 00:49:28,373 Speaker 2: my rule with dogs as this is Baden is saying this. 1025 00:49:28,533 --> 00:49:30,973 Speaker 2: My rule with dogs is if you're accidentally standing your 1026 00:49:30,973 --> 00:49:33,893 Speaker 2: dog and it dies, it's not a dog lock and 1027 00:49:33,933 --> 00:49:36,253 Speaker 2: someone someone's had to go up my dog as well. 1028 00:49:36,733 --> 00:49:40,413 Speaker 2: How dare they said that? What is it? Colin is 1029 00:49:40,453 --> 00:49:45,693 Speaker 2: not a dog? He's ah here it is between a 1030 00:49:45,733 --> 00:49:47,493 Speaker 2: cat and a phinic fox. 1031 00:49:47,613 --> 00:49:49,613 Speaker 3: Google it, Okay, right, I have a look up the 1032 00:49:49,613 --> 00:49:50,773 Speaker 3: finic fox, Paul Colin. 1033 00:49:51,253 --> 00:49:53,013 Speaker 2: It's scared to look up what phinic foxes. 1034 00:49:53,493 --> 00:49:58,093 Speaker 3: Phinic fox stand by not bad, actually not bad. 1035 00:49:59,453 --> 00:50:00,333 Speaker 2: That's pretty accurate. 1036 00:50:00,373 --> 00:50:02,773 Speaker 3: There's some messive ears on a phinic fox. 1037 00:50:03,053 --> 00:50:06,853 Speaker 2: Yeah. Ah, here we go, Megan, say, minutes Snail's that's 1038 00:50:06,933 --> 00:50:08,453 Speaker 2: that's what I'm talking about. That's what I've got. I've 1039 00:50:08,453 --> 00:50:10,293 Speaker 2: got a miniature snails and mixed with a jack Russell. 1040 00:50:11,253 --> 00:50:12,493 Speaker 23: Yeah, they're great little dogs. 1041 00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:17,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, so tell us about a minitionaus. Because I'm only 1042 00:50:17,573 --> 00:50:20,373 Speaker 2: really familiar with mins mixed with the Jack Russell. I'm 1043 00:50:20,373 --> 00:50:21,533 Speaker 2: not sure which parts of which. 1044 00:50:23,653 --> 00:50:26,813 Speaker 23: I really love them. I've got great personalities, they're easy 1045 00:50:26,893 --> 00:50:32,613 Speaker 23: to train, and great little companions by the low sitting 1046 00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:39,493 Speaker 23: and a bonus. Yes, they're good watch dogs, but they 1047 00:50:39,693 --> 00:50:42,653 Speaker 23: usually frightened down after people arrive. 1048 00:50:43,413 --> 00:50:48,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what's your what's your? Minsicious snails are called, Megan. 1049 00:50:49,053 --> 00:50:49,893 Speaker 23: I've got seven. 1050 00:50:51,773 --> 00:50:55,453 Speaker 3: Wow, you're addicted. 1051 00:50:56,413 --> 00:50:59,933 Speaker 2: So you've got you've got seven And but you've got 1052 00:51:00,533 --> 00:51:01,613 Speaker 2: but some of them are for sale? 1053 00:51:03,093 --> 00:51:08,133 Speaker 23: Know that all my own personal dogs. Yeah, just bought 1054 00:51:08,173 --> 00:51:10,652 Speaker 23: a little white one too, so that's the new color 1055 00:51:10,733 --> 00:51:10,933 Speaker 23: for me. 1056 00:51:11,653 --> 00:51:14,453 Speaker 2: And do they run as a pack, you know, is 1057 00:51:14,493 --> 00:51:15,693 Speaker 2: that do you have to deal with and you've got 1058 00:51:15,773 --> 00:51:18,253 Speaker 2: seven dogs, do you have to deal with different dynamics? 1059 00:51:18,333 --> 00:51:20,613 Speaker 2: Then if you've got one or two, do they you know? 1060 00:51:20,733 --> 00:51:25,013 Speaker 23: They they all get on really well. They they play 1061 00:51:25,333 --> 00:51:27,732 Speaker 23: and some of the older ones don't play a hard 1062 00:51:27,893 --> 00:51:30,373 Speaker 23: but yeah, they get on really well. Great contanions. 1063 00:51:31,093 --> 00:51:31,893 Speaker 2: What are you feeding them? 1064 00:51:33,613 --> 00:51:38,013 Speaker 23: A variety? We mostly feed them raw, yeah, and some 1065 00:51:38,493 --> 00:51:39,573 Speaker 23: good quality tibble. 1066 00:51:39,893 --> 00:51:42,693 Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, So many snaus? So what's the downside 1067 00:51:42,893 --> 00:51:45,093 Speaker 2: size of a what's the downside of a mini Schnauzer. 1068 00:51:47,973 --> 00:51:50,653 Speaker 23: They can be a bit vocal, a little bit siaky, 1069 00:51:50,733 --> 00:51:53,213 Speaker 23: but that is pretty special. 1070 00:51:53,533 --> 00:51:55,453 Speaker 3: Ye are you going to stop at seven? Megan? Just 1071 00:51:55,533 --> 00:51:55,973 Speaker 3: keep going? 1072 00:51:56,893 --> 00:51:57,853 Speaker 1: No, keep going? 1073 00:52:01,213 --> 00:52:01,653 Speaker 7: That go on? 1074 00:52:01,733 --> 00:52:03,292 Speaker 2: I mean you would you run twenty? 1075 00:52:04,933 --> 00:52:08,053 Speaker 23: I have got other dogs living with other people, so 1076 00:52:08,333 --> 00:52:09,773 Speaker 23: I don't have too many at home. 1077 00:52:09,853 --> 00:52:13,933 Speaker 2: Right, And if you ever checked out a snack, then 1078 00:52:14,013 --> 00:52:15,973 Speaker 2: many snaus a Jack Russell cross like I'm running? 1079 00:52:16,053 --> 00:52:20,813 Speaker 23: No, no, not yet, I agreed a shnoodle. 1080 00:52:22,573 --> 00:52:23,693 Speaker 3: Schnauzer in a poodle. 1081 00:52:24,893 --> 00:52:27,333 Speaker 2: I'd say the downside of a schnack, which is many 1082 00:52:27,413 --> 00:52:31,253 Speaker 2: Snauser Jack Russell, is that a he stinks he's the 1083 00:52:31,333 --> 00:52:32,613 Speaker 2: greatest human being in the world. 1084 00:52:32,733 --> 00:52:33,013 Speaker 17: My dog. 1085 00:52:33,093 --> 00:52:35,053 Speaker 2: I love him more than life itself. Yes, but he 1086 00:52:35,173 --> 00:52:36,533 Speaker 2: stinks and he's got terrible skin. 1087 00:52:37,853 --> 00:52:38,973 Speaker 3: But there's always a downside. 1088 00:52:38,973 --> 00:52:41,813 Speaker 2: But there's George says, stops legging off your dog, Matt, 1089 00:52:41,853 --> 00:52:42,813 Speaker 2: Colin's listening, it's true. 1090 00:52:42,813 --> 00:52:44,373 Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, sorry, if. 1091 00:52:44,253 --> 00:52:45,973 Speaker 2: You're listening, Colin, you're a good boy. You're good boy. 1092 00:52:45,973 --> 00:52:46,893 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your call. 1093 00:52:47,013 --> 00:52:49,493 Speaker 3: Megan, oh under an eighty ten eighty. What is the 1094 00:52:49,533 --> 00:52:50,493 Speaker 3: best dog breed on the world? 1095 00:52:50,933 --> 00:52:53,213 Speaker 2: Hi, guys, you can't beat a boxer? No, you shouldn't 1096 00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:55,253 Speaker 2: beat a boxer. No, I mean you can, but you shouldn't. 1097 00:52:55,493 --> 00:52:58,893 Speaker 2: Ah right, they're not meaning domestic violence, are They are 1098 00:52:58,933 --> 00:53:01,373 Speaker 2: clowns of the dog world, always smiling and always making 1099 00:53:01,453 --> 00:53:01,813 Speaker 2: you laugh. 1100 00:53:02,093 --> 00:53:05,493 Speaker 3: That's from caring funny faces boxers. Yeah, kind of like 1101 00:53:05,573 --> 00:53:06,973 Speaker 3: a pug, but just a little bit bigger. 1102 00:53:07,253 --> 00:53:08,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, keep. 1103 00:53:08,773 --> 00:53:10,853 Speaker 3: Those calls coming in on I eight hundred eighty ten 1104 00:53:11,053 --> 00:53:14,292 Speaker 3: eighty What is the greatest breed of dog? To own? 1105 00:53:14,733 --> 00:53:16,733 Speaker 3: Keen on your stories and keen on what you've got 1106 00:53:16,853 --> 00:53:18,212 Speaker 3: nine to nine to if you want to send the text. 1107 00:53:18,213 --> 00:53:20,053 Speaker 3: Plenty coming through. It's twenty three past two. 1108 00:53:23,773 --> 00:53:27,213 Speaker 4: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and 1109 00:53:27,253 --> 00:53:29,173 Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty on youth Talk, z'd be. 1110 00:53:29,493 --> 00:53:32,212 Speaker 3: Very good afternoon you. It as twenty five past two 1111 00:53:32,533 --> 00:53:34,893 Speaker 3: and we are talking. What is the greatest breed of dog? 1112 00:53:35,253 --> 00:53:37,093 Speaker 2: The sticks is a small dog as a sign of weakness. 1113 00:53:37,173 --> 00:53:39,173 Speaker 2: Get the biggest dog you can afford to feed. I 1114 00:53:39,293 --> 00:53:41,772 Speaker 2: have a great Dane. I laugh at your pathetic little 1115 00:53:41,853 --> 00:53:44,652 Speaker 2: dog man. I'd get a Tibetan master if I. 1116 00:53:44,653 --> 00:53:47,853 Speaker 3: Could great Dane. I mean, they're good looking dogs, so 1117 00:53:47,973 --> 00:53:49,252 Speaker 3: kind of half horse half dog. 1118 00:53:49,733 --> 00:53:53,013 Speaker 2: Is that true that people with big dogs look down 1119 00:53:53,373 --> 00:53:55,893 Speaker 2: on our owners of little dogs a little bit and think? 1120 00:53:56,053 --> 00:53:56,093 Speaker 24: So? 1121 00:53:56,173 --> 00:53:57,853 Speaker 2: When I brought my dog around to your house, Colin, 1122 00:53:58,213 --> 00:53:59,773 Speaker 2: and your dog Pepper is bigger than my dog, do 1123 00:53:59,853 --> 00:54:03,533 Speaker 2: you think I'm I'm a more powerful dog owner than 1124 00:54:03,573 --> 00:54:04,613 Speaker 2: you because your dog's small. 1125 00:54:04,693 --> 00:54:04,893 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1126 00:54:04,933 --> 00:54:08,173 Speaker 3: I definitely felt that until Colin put Pepper in a 1127 00:54:08,333 --> 00:54:10,173 Speaker 3: place and started eating her food right in front of it. 1128 00:54:10,893 --> 00:54:12,093 Speaker 3: Fair enough, fair enough. 1129 00:54:12,253 --> 00:54:14,133 Speaker 2: For the thing about dogs is they have no idea 1130 00:54:14,173 --> 00:54:15,013 Speaker 2: how big small they are. 1131 00:54:15,133 --> 00:54:16,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly my role. 1132 00:54:17,173 --> 00:54:21,173 Speaker 2: Here we go, h dug my Border terrier, Great blokes, 1133 00:54:21,213 --> 00:54:21,893 Speaker 2: He's Nathan. 1134 00:54:21,733 --> 00:54:24,253 Speaker 3: Good on your doug In Nathan Greeg. How are you? 1135 00:54:25,253 --> 00:54:27,212 Speaker 25: I'm good mate, how are you very good? 1136 00:54:27,373 --> 00:54:27,893 Speaker 6: What do you got? 1137 00:54:28,973 --> 00:54:30,853 Speaker 25: I've got a Rhodesian ridgeback cross? 1138 00:54:31,013 --> 00:54:32,373 Speaker 2: Oh what's across? 1139 00:54:32,613 --> 00:54:35,773 Speaker 25: I'll tell you what I don't actually know to be 1140 00:54:35,893 --> 00:54:39,853 Speaker 25: honest with you, Like he's just an a rescue. But 1141 00:54:40,013 --> 00:54:41,853 Speaker 25: you know what, I've had a few dogs over the years, 1142 00:54:41,853 --> 00:54:44,773 Speaker 25: and there'll been good dogs, but this particular dog is 1143 00:54:45,533 --> 00:54:48,613 Speaker 25: he's got something special about him. Like the Rhodesian ridgebacks. 1144 00:54:48,613 --> 00:54:51,373 Speaker 25: If you look at the Wikipedia entry they have I 1145 00:54:51,453 --> 00:54:54,172 Speaker 25: think it's three or four cow licks as well as 1146 00:54:54,213 --> 00:54:57,293 Speaker 25: a ridge. Well, this guy's got four cow licks up 1147 00:54:57,333 --> 00:55:00,013 Speaker 25: by his shoulders and the ridge that runs down to 1148 00:55:00,173 --> 00:55:03,773 Speaker 25: his tail, and it looks just like a guitar. 1149 00:55:05,693 --> 00:55:06,053 Speaker 9: It does. 1150 00:55:07,533 --> 00:55:07,933 Speaker 2: How good? 1151 00:55:08,933 --> 00:55:11,413 Speaker 25: He's an awesome dog. He's not real as big as 1152 00:55:11,413 --> 00:55:16,253 Speaker 25: as a genuine rodes xactly. He's slightly smaller. But if 1153 00:55:16,373 --> 00:55:17,733 Speaker 25: you come around and knock on the door and you 1154 00:55:17,773 --> 00:55:19,773 Speaker 25: hear on bark, you're going to think he's six foot tall. 1155 00:55:20,173 --> 00:55:22,213 Speaker 25: But he've got a really good bark on him. 1156 00:55:23,733 --> 00:55:25,533 Speaker 2: Where do they measu your dogs too? Because I'm looking 1157 00:55:25,613 --> 00:55:28,493 Speaker 2: at that saying that you know, a ridge back is 1158 00:55:28,493 --> 00:55:31,772 Speaker 2: about sixty nine centimeters on average, So that's up to it. Yeah, 1159 00:55:32,413 --> 00:55:33,253 Speaker 2: haunts or whatever. 1160 00:55:33,053 --> 00:55:35,173 Speaker 25: You call it, though, Yeah, I think that's up to 1161 00:55:35,453 --> 00:55:37,293 Speaker 25: like with a horse up to his shoulders. 1162 00:55:37,093 --> 00:55:40,093 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but he'd be but if he jumped 1163 00:55:40,173 --> 00:55:42,173 Speaker 2: up like on a door or something, that'd be getting 1164 00:55:42,253 --> 00:55:43,173 Speaker 2: up near six fo, wouldn't it. 1165 00:55:44,213 --> 00:55:44,413 Speaker 7: Yeah? 1166 00:55:44,493 --> 00:55:44,692 Speaker 18: Yeah. 1167 00:55:44,853 --> 00:55:49,053 Speaker 25: And he's got really big pause what really massive pause? 1168 00:55:49,213 --> 00:55:51,893 Speaker 25: You know you can you can see the traits of 1169 00:55:52,013 --> 00:55:56,413 Speaker 25: the breeds that went into the Rhodesian ridgeback and you 1170 00:55:56,453 --> 00:55:57,453 Speaker 25: know what, he's just been so. 1171 00:55:57,653 --> 00:55:58,453 Speaker 26: Easy to train. 1172 00:56:00,413 --> 00:56:02,213 Speaker 25: He's a bit stubborn sometimes, but. 1173 00:56:02,333 --> 00:56:05,133 Speaker 3: He's just a joy to have a They were lion hunters, 1174 00:56:05,173 --> 00:56:05,533 Speaker 3: weren't they. 1175 00:56:07,653 --> 00:56:09,613 Speaker 25: Well that's the al right here. But I spoke to her, 1176 00:56:11,093 --> 00:56:13,853 Speaker 25: a lady who lived in Rhodesia, and she said they 1177 00:56:13,973 --> 00:56:18,093 Speaker 25: used to use them to guard, you know, the animals. 1178 00:56:18,253 --> 00:56:21,053 Speaker 25: They didn't exactly hunt lions, but they were knowing to, 1179 00:56:21,413 --> 00:56:23,973 Speaker 25: you know, to to fight the lions if they came 1180 00:56:24,013 --> 00:56:25,613 Speaker 25: after the the animals. 1181 00:56:25,693 --> 00:56:26,093 Speaker 9: They heard. 1182 00:56:27,893 --> 00:56:30,133 Speaker 3: It's a pretty big dog. Anythink that takes on a lion? 1183 00:56:30,333 --> 00:56:34,732 Speaker 25: I mean, he's you know what, he's my dogs. He's 1184 00:56:34,933 --> 00:56:37,493 Speaker 25: he's got a really good nature. He's really friendly. 1185 00:56:38,093 --> 00:56:38,973 Speaker 26: But if he wanted to. 1186 00:56:39,173 --> 00:56:42,333 Speaker 25: He's really powerful and I've seen him play like you 1187 00:56:42,373 --> 00:56:44,533 Speaker 25: know with other dogs and he uses his pause as 1188 00:56:44,533 --> 00:56:49,613 Speaker 25: they as to get him a whack. You know, he's 1189 00:56:49,613 --> 00:56:50,053 Speaker 25: a good boy. 1190 00:56:50,213 --> 00:56:52,212 Speaker 2: Do you look down, by the way, do you look 1191 00:56:52,213 --> 00:56:54,133 Speaker 2: down on owners of smaller dogs because you've got a 1192 00:56:54,413 --> 00:56:54,893 Speaker 2: bigger dog? 1193 00:56:56,013 --> 00:56:56,172 Speaker 9: Oh? 1194 00:56:56,333 --> 00:56:58,533 Speaker 25: No way, I love all dogs dogs. 1195 00:56:59,173 --> 00:56:59,573 Speaker 2: Good on you. 1196 00:56:59,933 --> 00:57:00,813 Speaker 3: You're a better person than me. 1197 00:57:00,933 --> 00:57:03,853 Speaker 2: Greek. Interestingly, Colin to Gronholm, you know, the ex New 1198 00:57:03,893 --> 00:57:07,133 Speaker 2: Zealand black Cat. His nickname was the Rhodesian Rugebek. I 1199 00:57:07,173 --> 00:57:09,533 Speaker 2: could see that, and it was something to do with 1200 00:57:10,453 --> 00:57:13,653 Speaker 2: showering time right for the team. No one on the 1201 00:57:13,693 --> 00:57:15,693 Speaker 2: team would tell me why he was called the Rhodesian red. 1202 00:57:15,893 --> 00:57:16,933 Speaker 3: Made a strong back or something. 1203 00:57:17,573 --> 00:57:17,853 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1204 00:57:18,013 --> 00:57:20,013 Speaker 3: There was something in the showers he was got on 1205 00:57:20,093 --> 00:57:20,533 Speaker 3: that nickname. 1206 00:57:20,613 --> 00:57:22,333 Speaker 2: He was from Zimbabwe, so maybe that was something to 1207 00:57:22,373 --> 00:57:25,293 Speaker 2: do with it. But yeah, they caught in the the 1208 00:57:25,373 --> 00:57:27,613 Speaker 2: herege have told me that Colin de Grindhole was called 1209 00:57:27,613 --> 00:57:30,533 Speaker 2: the Rhodesian ridge back and they were both names that 1210 00:57:30,613 --> 00:57:31,733 Speaker 2: were earned in the team. 1211 00:57:32,173 --> 00:57:34,813 Speaker 3: Shower some good inside and olives there. Oh one hundred 1212 00:57:34,813 --> 00:57:37,533 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. We 1213 00:57:37,613 --> 00:57:39,573 Speaker 3: will be back very shortly. 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After a story out of China where a 1238 00:59:04,413 --> 00:59:07,133 Speaker 3: Corgie led a bunch of other dogs to safety after 1239 00:59:07,173 --> 00:59:09,693 Speaker 3: being picked up by a butcher's fan, not so far, 1240 00:59:09,813 --> 00:59:10,453 Speaker 3: no Corgies. 1241 00:59:10,773 --> 00:59:13,213 Speaker 2: Now Corgy saved? How many other dogs were there? 1242 00:59:13,373 --> 00:59:15,013 Speaker 3: There was another nine? 1243 00:59:15,213 --> 00:59:18,733 Speaker 2: So this Corgy led nine dogs of different breeds to 1244 00:59:18,813 --> 00:59:21,773 Speaker 2: safety would suggest to me that the king of dogs, 1245 00:59:22,293 --> 00:59:25,333 Speaker 2: and yet no support for Corgy's in the in the 1246 00:59:25,413 --> 00:59:28,333 Speaker 2: text machine. Nasties are the besties? Is this text? Cutest 1247 00:59:28,373 --> 00:59:30,293 Speaker 2: face is good, temperate, not too small for a man 1248 00:59:30,373 --> 00:59:34,293 Speaker 2: to be seen out with. Don't molt and don't smell 1249 00:59:34,413 --> 00:59:37,333 Speaker 2: downstaired costs a fortune every six weeks having them groomed, 1250 00:59:37,613 --> 00:59:39,093 Speaker 2: but worth every sense. 1251 00:59:39,293 --> 00:59:42,133 Speaker 3: They are cute dogs, Westies. I had to look them up, 1252 00:59:42,173 --> 00:59:44,333 Speaker 3: but they are. I mean, has Colin got a little 1253 00:59:44,373 --> 00:59:45,093 Speaker 3: bit of whisty in them? 1254 00:59:45,533 --> 00:59:50,533 Speaker 2: No, mate, he's all snaggs. Marnie. Welcome to the show. 1255 00:59:51,613 --> 00:59:54,933 Speaker 2: Oh thanks, hello, you're running a Boston Terrior. 1256 00:59:55,053 --> 00:59:55,453 Speaker 9: Is that right? 1257 00:59:56,973 --> 00:59:57,493 Speaker 7: That's right? 1258 00:59:59,413 --> 01:00:01,493 Speaker 3: A yep, got you a loud and clear What is 1259 01:00:01,493 --> 01:00:02,653 Speaker 3: great about a Boston Terrier? 1260 01:00:04,813 --> 01:00:07,893 Speaker 7: Well, actually, as my son's dog, I just dogs at him, 1261 01:00:07,933 --> 01:00:11,613 Speaker 7: so grand dog. And I've always kind of grown up 1262 01:00:11,693 --> 01:00:14,813 Speaker 7: with really big dogs and never thought little dogs are 1263 01:00:14,853 --> 01:00:17,893 Speaker 7: the greatest. But oh my god, this breed is so fun, 1264 01:00:18,453 --> 01:00:22,613 Speaker 7: so much energy. They're just really friendly, quite quiet, not 1265 01:00:22,813 --> 01:00:26,773 Speaker 7: super yeppy yeppies. And yeah, they're just the Americans gentleman, 1266 01:00:27,093 --> 01:00:27,693 Speaker 7: so cute. 1267 01:00:28,453 --> 01:00:30,533 Speaker 3: I've seen them at the dog park. They are very, 1268 01:00:30,733 --> 01:00:33,573 Speaker 3: very happy dogs, always got a massive smile. They're kind 1269 01:00:33,613 --> 01:00:35,533 Speaker 3: of gooberish, but that's endearing about them. 1270 01:00:35,733 --> 01:00:37,773 Speaker 2: They've got a fat face. Have they money? 1271 01:00:38,613 --> 01:00:38,933 Speaker 15: They do? 1272 01:00:39,173 --> 01:00:39,413 Speaker 24: They do? 1273 01:00:39,773 --> 01:00:39,973 Speaker 9: Yep. 1274 01:00:40,093 --> 01:00:42,773 Speaker 7: So they're breathing, sounds a bit noisy sometimes and they 1275 01:00:42,813 --> 01:00:46,253 Speaker 7: get a bit puffed, and sometimes they can have the 1276 01:00:46,493 --> 01:00:52,213 Speaker 7: small dog syndrome thinking they're big dog. But other than that, 1277 01:00:52,413 --> 01:00:54,293 Speaker 7: most of the time he's a bloody good dog. And 1278 01:00:54,373 --> 01:00:57,773 Speaker 7: it's definitely changed my idea of thinking big dogs are 1279 01:00:57,813 --> 01:01:00,413 Speaker 7: the best. Yeah, I've got a pit bull at home, 1280 01:01:00,493 --> 01:01:04,293 Speaker 7: but god, I love a little dog, right. 1281 01:01:04,413 --> 01:01:09,973 Speaker 2: And any downsides to the Boston interior, any problem, um, 1282 01:01:10,573 --> 01:01:11,453 Speaker 2: not that I know. 1283 01:01:11,693 --> 01:01:14,133 Speaker 7: Of because their eyes kind of stick out of it. 1284 01:01:14,253 --> 01:01:16,453 Speaker 7: You've got to be aware of so cats scratching them. 1285 01:01:16,893 --> 01:01:20,333 Speaker 7: And I think they have a major problem breeding. Maybe 1286 01:01:20,413 --> 01:01:23,733 Speaker 7: it's because the head size coming out or something like 1287 01:01:23,853 --> 01:01:25,453 Speaker 7: the in a shoe. So a lot of the year 1288 01:01:25,493 --> 01:01:27,853 Speaker 7: it's quite hard. That's why probably they're really expensive to 1289 01:01:27,893 --> 01:01:28,653 Speaker 7: get as a puppy. 1290 01:01:29,693 --> 01:01:31,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a sizeable head on them. I mean 1291 01:01:31,533 --> 01:01:33,293 Speaker 3: they kind of seem to me they like the dogs. 1292 01:01:33,373 --> 01:01:36,133 Speaker 3: Dog They always seem they're the first when you're at 1293 01:01:36,173 --> 01:01:37,813 Speaker 3: the dog park. They are the first ones that run 1294 01:01:37,933 --> 01:01:39,853 Speaker 3: up to see all the other dogs. They just love 1295 01:01:39,893 --> 01:01:40,933 Speaker 3: other dogs by the looks of it. 1296 01:01:42,013 --> 01:01:45,653 Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, they sure do. And my well, my grand 1297 01:01:45,693 --> 01:01:47,373 Speaker 7: dog seems to love all the bigger ones. 1298 01:01:48,773 --> 01:01:50,893 Speaker 3: Good on your money, Thank you very much for giving 1299 01:01:50,973 --> 01:01:52,093 Speaker 3: us a cool Boston Terrier. 1300 01:01:52,933 --> 01:01:53,133 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1301 01:01:53,133 --> 01:01:55,253 Speaker 3: To me, it's like a big pug, but very very 1302 01:01:55,333 --> 01:01:55,893 Speaker 3: cute dogs. 1303 01:01:56,213 --> 01:01:59,853 Speaker 2: Craig says, do not knock the small medium dog breeds. Corgies, 1304 01:01:59,933 --> 01:02:02,013 Speaker 2: for example, were bred for stock control, much like the 1305 01:02:02,053 --> 01:02:05,813 Speaker 2: border Collie Deshons will bred for badger hunting, hence their 1306 01:02:05,893 --> 01:02:09,133 Speaker 2: elongated frames to manage the bedge of burrows. Dogs trained 1307 01:02:09,213 --> 01:02:12,213 Speaker 2: for stock control are highly intelligent, resilient, and are born 1308 01:02:12,293 --> 01:02:15,453 Speaker 2: to lead period. The small medium dog breeds are sometimes 1309 01:02:15,493 --> 01:02:17,813 Speaker 2: the most intelligent breeds of all. Thanks Craig, Yeah, good 1310 01:02:17,853 --> 01:02:18,053 Speaker 2: on you. 1311 01:02:18,413 --> 01:02:19,733 Speaker 3: Yeah, fight for the small breeds. 1312 01:02:19,773 --> 01:02:22,893 Speaker 2: There's a lot of these big dog owners that think 1313 01:02:22,933 --> 01:02:23,973 Speaker 2: they're better than the rest of us. 1314 01:02:24,053 --> 01:02:26,333 Speaker 3: There is a lot out there, Craig. Are you one 1315 01:02:26,413 --> 01:02:26,613 Speaker 3: of them? 1316 01:02:26,733 --> 01:02:27,573 Speaker 2: You've got a Great Dane? 1317 01:02:29,093 --> 01:02:31,813 Speaker 26: No, I don't have any dogs. Actually, my best mate 1318 01:02:31,853 --> 01:02:34,413 Speaker 26: has two Great Danes and he quite often goes overseacial 1319 01:02:34,453 --> 01:02:36,173 Speaker 26: works after house suits. I have to wi them and 1320 01:02:36,333 --> 01:02:38,613 Speaker 26: do all the stuff like that. And like I'm six 1321 01:02:38,973 --> 01:02:40,813 Speaker 26: one six two. When I'm walking down the road, I 1322 01:02:40,853 --> 01:02:43,733 Speaker 26: feel like a four foot guy talk person next to them, 1323 01:02:43,813 --> 01:02:45,893 Speaker 26: but they mess up. But you've got to walk fast 1324 01:02:45,933 --> 01:02:48,253 Speaker 26: because they're gay is so burgie. If you walk slowly, 1325 01:02:48,293 --> 01:02:52,173 Speaker 26: they're hardly even walking. But yeah, they're holding on their food. 1326 01:02:52,213 --> 01:02:54,333 Speaker 26: But I had an incident a while ago where I'm 1327 01:02:54,373 --> 01:02:55,893 Speaker 26: gone to work, came home and there's a purity of 1328 01:02:55,893 --> 01:02:58,533 Speaker 26: them pugs perhouse island, but no carrier, so I thought 1329 01:02:58,533 --> 01:02:59,933 Speaker 26: he must have gone next door or whatever. So the 1330 01:02:59,973 --> 01:03:02,093 Speaker 26: wind of the house and putting the groceries away, and 1331 01:03:02,173 --> 01:03:03,213 Speaker 26: he hit this little person game. 1332 01:03:03,653 --> 01:03:03,853 Speaker 9: Hello. 1333 01:03:04,253 --> 01:03:04,453 Speaker 20: Hello. 1334 01:03:04,653 --> 01:03:06,133 Speaker 26: I look at round, can't see anything, so went out 1335 01:03:06,173 --> 01:03:08,493 Speaker 26: the ranch slider to see what was going on. And 1336 01:03:08,573 --> 01:03:10,013 Speaker 26: here he is. He's gone around the back of the 1337 01:03:10,093 --> 01:03:11,773 Speaker 26: house and he just pinned up against the back door 1338 01:03:11,773 --> 01:03:13,493 Speaker 26: of one of the great Danes with the trunk walls 1339 01:03:13,533 --> 01:03:17,213 Speaker 26: on the shoulders slip at his nose, and it's like help, 1340 01:03:17,253 --> 01:03:21,053 Speaker 26: but it's like us. Sorry, it wasn't her at all, 1341 01:03:21,093 --> 01:03:22,573 Speaker 26: but it just pins in the door. You've been here 1342 01:03:22,573 --> 01:03:25,973 Speaker 26: for about ten fifteen minutes before I came home. But yeah, 1343 01:03:26,013 --> 01:03:28,493 Speaker 26: they are great dogs. I mean, I believe every dog's good, 1344 01:03:28,533 --> 01:03:30,173 Speaker 26: it doesn't matter what size it is. But I have 1345 01:03:30,373 --> 01:03:32,533 Speaker 26: been in misfortune where I've been around in this place 1346 01:03:32,573 --> 01:03:35,173 Speaker 26: a few times and you'll be down the fire end 1347 01:03:35,173 --> 01:03:37,413 Speaker 26: of the house doing something or whatever, and your care 1348 01:03:37,533 --> 01:03:39,053 Speaker 26: with dinner time, and they have their own little room 1349 01:03:39,093 --> 01:03:40,453 Speaker 26: at the back of the house where they can sort 1350 01:03:40,493 --> 01:03:42,893 Speaker 26: of during winter, and I'll come bounding down the hall 1351 01:03:42,933 --> 01:03:44,413 Speaker 26: and you look at them. You've got two great Dans 1352 01:03:44,413 --> 01:03:45,773 Speaker 26: coming on the hall and you steam in the middle 1353 01:03:45,773 --> 01:03:47,813 Speaker 26: of the hallway. Again, this is not going to work 1354 01:03:47,853 --> 01:03:51,533 Speaker 26: out very well. But I have also noticed that when 1355 01:03:51,533 --> 01:03:53,453 Speaker 26: you went around his place, house fit and you're watching 1356 01:03:53,493 --> 01:03:55,493 Speaker 26: the movie and you're kind of relaxing on the couch. 1357 01:03:55,573 --> 01:03:57,493 Speaker 26: Sometimes you get a great day or one or two 1358 01:03:57,533 --> 01:04:01,013 Speaker 26: of them, either Chester or Gordon or them sit on 1359 01:04:01,413 --> 01:04:03,453 Speaker 26: on you on the couch and you want to go 1360 01:04:03,613 --> 01:04:04,853 Speaker 26: up to get a drink or whatever, and you just 1361 01:04:04,933 --> 01:04:07,253 Speaker 26: can't go anywhere. You're just like you kind of just 1362 01:04:07,373 --> 01:04:09,853 Speaker 26: pinto the couch and come on, please, can I get up? 1363 01:04:09,893 --> 01:04:12,173 Speaker 26: But they're like, no, no, no, we have finished playing yep. 1364 01:04:12,653 --> 01:04:15,053 Speaker 26: But yeah, great dogs. But I mean at the end 1365 01:04:15,093 --> 01:04:16,533 Speaker 26: of day, I think you've read the Dogs Special and 1366 01:04:16,533 --> 01:04:18,093 Speaker 26: I mean it just gives you something special in your 1367 01:04:18,093 --> 01:04:18,493 Speaker 26: life too. 1368 01:04:18,573 --> 01:04:21,493 Speaker 2: Yeah, good on you. I mean, yeah, Well, when you're 1369 01:04:21,493 --> 01:04:23,333 Speaker 2: walking a couple of great Danes and they want to 1370 01:04:23,413 --> 01:04:26,933 Speaker 2: do something, can you stop them? Because I mean that 1371 01:04:27,333 --> 01:04:29,213 Speaker 2: pretty pretty big pulling power. If they want to go 1372 01:04:29,253 --> 01:04:32,373 Speaker 2: and sniff and snuff something or do something, then theay. 1373 01:04:32,173 --> 01:04:35,853 Speaker 26: You decide you've got to keep a very good leash. 1374 01:04:35,933 --> 01:04:37,213 Speaker 26: And then yeah, they did a lot of power. But 1375 01:04:37,253 --> 01:04:39,013 Speaker 26: the other downside too is if they do come with 1376 01:04:39,093 --> 01:04:40,853 Speaker 26: the leech, if they do come off the leash or 1377 01:04:40,853 --> 01:04:43,733 Speaker 26: whatever and go after another animal with ever, good luck 1378 01:04:43,773 --> 01:04:45,253 Speaker 26: trying to catch them. They're just going. 1379 01:04:46,093 --> 01:04:47,773 Speaker 7: But the only thing I do. 1380 01:04:47,853 --> 01:04:49,973 Speaker 26: Find is people tend to walk on the other side 1381 01:04:49,973 --> 01:04:51,373 Speaker 26: of the road. When you're walking on the foot path 1382 01:04:51,733 --> 01:04:54,733 Speaker 26: there's two dogs. Something LON don't like. I've noticed a 1383 01:04:54,773 --> 01:04:56,093 Speaker 26: lot of women come up and go, oh, you've got 1384 01:04:56,133 --> 01:04:57,853 Speaker 26: a cute dog, But when you've got two great danes 1385 01:04:57,973 --> 01:04:59,333 Speaker 26: like good. 1386 01:05:00,093 --> 01:05:02,613 Speaker 2: It's not the best way to meet people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1387 01:05:02,653 --> 01:05:05,533 Speaker 2: I respect that because my dog, you know, it's pathetically 1388 01:05:05,573 --> 01:05:08,533 Speaker 2: small that there's no way he could decide to do. 1389 01:05:08,653 --> 01:05:10,413 Speaker 2: But you do see those people just being dragged down 1390 01:05:10,453 --> 01:05:12,733 Speaker 2: the road by their dogs. Someone to the story Craig 1391 01:05:12,813 --> 01:05:15,933 Speaker 2: told we came up. We used to have a guard 1392 01:05:16,013 --> 01:05:18,173 Speaker 2: dog at our farm when I was growing up, and 1393 01:05:18,973 --> 01:05:22,333 Speaker 2: I could jump on him, roll around with him, do anything. 1394 01:05:22,573 --> 01:05:25,333 Speaker 2: But if someone came around to the house that was 1395 01:05:25,453 --> 01:05:27,973 Speaker 2: that he didn't know. He would pin them against the 1396 01:05:28,013 --> 01:05:30,093 Speaker 2: wall until we got home. 1397 01:05:30,293 --> 01:05:32,133 Speaker 3: Right, That is a good, good guard dog. 1398 01:05:32,253 --> 01:05:35,653 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well except for my sister's boyfriend, Mark came around once. 1399 01:05:35,693 --> 01:05:36,933 Speaker 2: The first time he came around to the house, he 1400 01:05:36,973 --> 01:05:38,893 Speaker 2: was a bit earlier and no one was home, and 1401 01:05:39,213 --> 01:05:41,933 Speaker 2: so we were about forty five minutes late home, and 1402 01:05:42,173 --> 01:05:44,733 Speaker 2: so Monty had him just pinned up against the house 1403 01:05:45,973 --> 01:05:47,853 Speaker 2: for forty five minutes. Every time he tried to move 1404 01:05:47,893 --> 01:05:51,253 Speaker 2: anywhere it was. And so when we arrived Mark was 1405 01:05:51,413 --> 01:05:55,173 Speaker 2: just absolutely terrified standing there in front of in front 1406 01:05:55,173 --> 01:05:55,813 Speaker 2: of Monty. 1407 01:05:56,053 --> 01:05:58,253 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, is this was Mark the one you 1408 01:05:58,373 --> 01:05:59,613 Speaker 3: stitched up with the tomato sauce. 1409 01:05:59,733 --> 01:06:01,653 Speaker 2: No, that was my other. I've got three sisters. 1410 01:06:02,973 --> 01:06:05,533 Speaker 3: There was four boyfriends. That was man that have met Mark. 1411 01:06:05,773 --> 01:06:07,933 Speaker 3: It's tough, all right. O one hundred and eighty ten 1412 01:06:08,013 --> 01:06:10,613 Speaker 3: eighty is that number to call? What is the best 1413 01:06:10,693 --> 01:06:13,733 Speaker 3: breed of dog? In your opinion? Nineteen ninety two? Is 1414 01:06:13,773 --> 01:06:15,653 Speaker 3: the text will be back very shortly. It is twenty 1415 01:06:15,733 --> 01:06:16,493 Speaker 3: two to three long. 1416 01:06:16,533 --> 01:06:18,813 Speaker 2: A bit of Cordy Corgy love coming through now, all right? 1417 01:06:18,893 --> 01:06:19,013 Speaker 24: Then? 1418 01:06:19,213 --> 01:06:22,693 Speaker 1: Nice the issues that affect you and a bit of 1419 01:06:22,773 --> 01:06:26,893 Speaker 1: fun along the way, Matt and afternoons with Scoter play 1420 01:06:26,973 --> 01:06:29,813 Speaker 1: scoter codes every day at scoter dot co dot in 1421 01:06:29,973 --> 01:06:31,373 Speaker 1: sad news talks. 1422 01:06:31,093 --> 01:06:34,493 Speaker 3: They'd be seventeen to three what dog breeders the greatest? 1423 01:06:34,573 --> 01:06:38,173 Speaker 3: And your view? Get a donald you know, Matte, what 1424 01:06:38,293 --> 01:06:38,733 Speaker 3: do you reckon? 1425 01:06:39,653 --> 01:06:41,773 Speaker 9: It's got to be a board of Colie Like, honestly. 1426 01:06:41,893 --> 01:06:44,173 Speaker 3: That'll be right up there, right up there. I had 1427 01:06:44,173 --> 01:06:45,533 Speaker 3: a few in my family. 1428 01:06:47,053 --> 01:06:49,173 Speaker 15: We got one and had it for ten years. She 1429 01:06:49,293 --> 01:06:49,773 Speaker 15: was amazing. 1430 01:06:49,853 --> 01:06:52,453 Speaker 26: We my daughter was and she was two. 1431 01:06:52,573 --> 01:06:54,173 Speaker 15: Was walking through a field and I turned around saw 1432 01:06:54,213 --> 01:06:56,573 Speaker 15: a magpie knocked her over and all I said to 1433 01:06:56,653 --> 01:06:59,213 Speaker 15: the dog was guard. And the dog took off like 1434 01:06:59,373 --> 01:07:01,813 Speaker 15: fifty meters. Never seen her run so fast, jumped at 1435 01:07:01,813 --> 01:07:05,213 Speaker 15: the magpie. Magpie swooped up, came for another shot. Sheep 1436 01:07:05,253 --> 01:07:07,093 Speaker 15: double bounced and came up and got a tail in 1437 01:07:07,173 --> 01:07:07,493 Speaker 15: his mouth. 1438 01:07:08,373 --> 01:07:11,813 Speaker 2: Water hero is the because of flats? Is the border 1439 01:07:11,853 --> 01:07:14,573 Speaker 2: Collie the most count essentially New Zealand dog? 1440 01:07:14,773 --> 01:07:15,013 Speaker 18: Or is that? 1441 01:07:15,373 --> 01:07:16,133 Speaker 2: Would there be a last? 1442 01:07:16,253 --> 01:07:17,733 Speaker 15: They don't have to agree with you. I mean I'm 1443 01:07:17,733 --> 01:07:24,333 Speaker 15: old enough to remember flat so you can't beat dog? Yeah, 1444 01:07:24,773 --> 01:07:27,493 Speaker 15: I'm a total convent. When our last batter Collie passed, 1445 01:07:27,533 --> 01:07:29,853 Speaker 15: we only lasted like two weeks before we ended up 1446 01:07:29,853 --> 01:07:32,013 Speaker 15: getting another one because I just couldn't cope with the 1447 01:07:32,133 --> 01:07:34,573 Speaker 15: silence of the moving around. This dog always been there. 1448 01:07:36,413 --> 01:07:38,413 Speaker 2: I've never seen an unhappy water collie. Do you know 1449 01:07:38,653 --> 01:07:40,093 Speaker 2: they've got the happier faces. 1450 01:07:40,453 --> 01:07:42,573 Speaker 3: If there is a downside, though, Donald, I reckon, you 1451 01:07:42,653 --> 01:07:44,693 Speaker 3: know they're a little bit too smart sometimes, You know 1452 01:07:44,733 --> 01:07:46,533 Speaker 3: what I mean, when you're starting to train them and 1453 01:07:46,573 --> 01:07:50,093 Speaker 3: they've got you figured out pretty fast, you can't outwit 1454 01:07:50,213 --> 01:07:51,413 Speaker 3: them like you can other dogs. 1455 01:07:52,333 --> 01:07:56,333 Speaker 15: No, you're correct. They're probably one of the hardest to train, 1456 01:07:56,613 --> 01:07:59,533 Speaker 15: as in they'll make you pay. You've got to stay 1457 01:07:59,533 --> 01:08:01,813 Speaker 15: on top of them. Yeah, otherwise it's like dealing with 1458 01:08:01,893 --> 01:08:05,413 Speaker 15: the toddler. I think I cease to think how many 1459 01:08:06,773 --> 01:08:11,493 Speaker 15: smart remotes our current dog walking through before he's much better. 1460 01:08:11,573 --> 01:08:11,693 Speaker 6: Now. 1461 01:08:12,253 --> 01:08:14,093 Speaker 2: I take my dog for a walk in an area 1462 01:08:14,173 --> 01:08:16,653 Speaker 2: that's got a that they've drawn a big mural of 1463 01:08:16,733 --> 01:08:19,572 Speaker 2: dog from foot flats when Murray Bull died. They do this, 1464 01:08:19,693 --> 01:08:22,612 Speaker 2: that big, big, big thing. But often when I walk 1465 01:08:22,653 --> 01:08:24,772 Speaker 2: to the top of this mountain, this dog walking mountain, 1466 01:08:24,893 --> 01:08:26,972 Speaker 2: and then a border Collie will come up by itself. 1467 01:08:27,412 --> 01:08:30,732 Speaker 2: Often border Collies they're fast and they're good off the leash, 1468 01:08:30,893 --> 01:08:32,532 Speaker 2: but they'll just run up and they'll run a mark 1469 01:08:32,532 --> 01:08:34,412 Speaker 2: at the top of the hell and then they're then 1470 01:08:34,452 --> 01:08:36,892 Speaker 2: their owner. There's about three different owners with border Collies 1471 01:08:36,933 --> 01:08:39,852 Speaker 2: that and they always arrive, you know, ten minutes after 1472 01:08:40,173 --> 01:08:41,692 Speaker 2: the Yeah. 1473 01:08:41,933 --> 01:08:45,133 Speaker 15: Yeah, our unfortunately, our dog is a little bit dog 1474 01:08:45,213 --> 01:08:47,973 Speaker 15: reactive when he's on the lead. Not he's awesome, but 1475 01:08:48,692 --> 01:08:50,612 Speaker 15: it's not really fear on people. When you have a 1476 01:08:50,692 --> 01:08:52,293 Speaker 15: dog run up to them and to go, it's okay, 1477 01:08:52,412 --> 01:08:55,173 Speaker 15: it's fine, ex friendly. Yeah, if you're picture foight of dogs, 1478 01:08:55,213 --> 01:08:56,093 Speaker 15: it's not going to help you much. 1479 01:08:56,133 --> 01:08:57,492 Speaker 2: But if you're a picture fight of dogs, shouldn't be 1480 01:08:57,492 --> 01:08:57,932 Speaker 2: a dog park. 1481 01:08:58,013 --> 01:08:59,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there is a true yeah. 1482 01:08:59,812 --> 01:09:02,892 Speaker 15: But I think that's the thing with people are quite intelligent, 1483 01:09:04,053 --> 01:09:05,732 Speaker 15: smart judgment, but I also. 1484 01:09:05,532 --> 01:09:08,253 Speaker 3: Think we're border collieue. Sometimes they look at other dogs 1485 01:09:08,492 --> 01:09:11,133 Speaker 3: and I know that they're saying, you're an idiot, You're 1486 01:09:11,173 --> 01:09:13,572 Speaker 3: an absolute idiot. I'm smarter than you. They kind of 1487 01:09:13,612 --> 01:09:16,612 Speaker 3: just want to hang out with other border Collies, especially. 1488 01:09:16,253 --> 01:09:16,932 Speaker 15: Those little dogs. 1489 01:09:16,973 --> 01:09:17,133 Speaker 20: Yeah. 1490 01:09:17,173 --> 01:09:17,812 Speaker 15: I don't blame them. 1491 01:09:17,933 --> 01:09:20,372 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you for you called Donald your portcolo. 1492 01:09:20,412 --> 01:09:22,012 Speaker 2: What a great dog. Mary, welcome to show. 1493 01:09:24,093 --> 01:09:27,973 Speaker 3: Hey Mary, oh hi, hi Hello. Now you want to 1494 01:09:27,973 --> 01:09:28,732 Speaker 3: talk about a husky? 1495 01:09:30,812 --> 01:09:33,132 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, there's only one dog and there'd. 1496 01:09:32,933 --> 01:09:33,532 Speaker 3: Be a husky. 1497 01:09:34,572 --> 01:09:38,333 Speaker 2: Whenever you see a husky, it's quite affecting their eyes. 1498 01:09:38,532 --> 01:09:40,932 Speaker 2: There's something about them. They're sort of a mystical beast. 1499 01:09:42,532 --> 01:09:46,692 Speaker 5: Willows has got one blue and one half in one blue. 1500 01:09:46,812 --> 01:09:53,692 Speaker 3: Oh, like a David Bowie situation, as it a Siberian husky. 1501 01:09:54,812 --> 01:09:57,253 Speaker 7: Yes it is, yeah, yeah, why is it? 1502 01:09:57,372 --> 01:09:59,333 Speaker 2: Is it because they're wolf like that. They seem so 1503 01:09:59,732 --> 01:10:03,052 Speaker 2: kind of like you're seeing something from a fantasy novel 1504 01:10:03,213 --> 01:10:03,852 Speaker 2: when you see one. 1505 01:10:05,692 --> 01:10:05,892 Speaker 23: Yeah. 1506 01:10:06,333 --> 01:10:09,732 Speaker 7: Well, I'm in my seventies and and I walk quite 1507 01:10:09,812 --> 01:10:10,772 Speaker 7: often on the beach. 1508 01:10:13,572 --> 01:10:15,612 Speaker 25: Yeah, they've got a mind of their own. 1509 01:10:16,492 --> 01:10:18,692 Speaker 20: They're really really stupid. 1510 01:10:19,013 --> 01:10:21,412 Speaker 3: They're pretty stubborn as well, aren't they. And they they're 1511 01:10:21,412 --> 01:10:24,092 Speaker 3: a bit whiny as well sometimes marry you know, very talkative, 1512 01:10:24,173 --> 01:10:26,173 Speaker 3: but they if they don't get their way, then they'll 1513 01:10:26,293 --> 01:10:28,732 Speaker 3: howl and whine and. 1514 01:10:28,772 --> 01:10:31,172 Speaker 25: They'll sulk time sulking. 1515 01:10:31,372 --> 01:10:33,133 Speaker 16: Look look at your side eye. 1516 01:10:33,253 --> 01:10:37,973 Speaker 2: And yes, but you can't go without you can't go 1517 01:10:38,053 --> 01:10:40,452 Speaker 2: with a husky without someone coming up and just raving 1518 01:10:40,492 --> 01:10:42,532 Speaker 2: about how handsome the dog is. 1519 01:10:42,652 --> 01:10:42,772 Speaker 9: Right. 1520 01:10:44,213 --> 01:10:46,693 Speaker 5: I think that's why my son likes taking. 1521 01:10:46,412 --> 01:10:47,253 Speaker 9: Him because. 1522 01:10:48,492 --> 01:10:48,772 Speaker 2: Ladies. 1523 01:10:49,253 --> 01:10:52,012 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a good way to meet girls. 1524 01:10:52,652 --> 01:10:54,572 Speaker 2: A husky for me is kind of like a unicorn. 1525 01:10:54,652 --> 01:10:57,493 Speaker 2: And I see a husky that looks like a magical beast. 1526 01:10:57,532 --> 01:10:57,772 Speaker 17: It is. 1527 01:10:57,893 --> 01:10:59,652 Speaker 3: Yeah, it look like something out of out of a 1528 01:10:59,692 --> 01:11:03,173 Speaker 3: fantasy movie. Those eyes are hypnotic one hundred and eighty 1529 01:11:03,213 --> 01:11:04,732 Speaker 3: ten eighties and I'm going to call what's the greatest 1530 01:11:04,772 --> 01:11:05,572 Speaker 3: dog read ever? 1531 01:11:05,732 --> 01:11:06,132 Speaker 2: Sharon? 1532 01:11:06,213 --> 01:11:06,572 Speaker 3: How are you. 1533 01:11:09,853 --> 01:11:10,013 Speaker 9: Hey? 1534 01:11:10,173 --> 01:11:10,452 Speaker 2: Sharon? 1535 01:11:11,372 --> 01:11:11,532 Speaker 24: Hi? 1536 01:11:11,973 --> 01:11:12,612 Speaker 18: Sorry about that. 1537 01:11:12,893 --> 01:11:13,492 Speaker 3: It's all right. 1538 01:11:13,812 --> 01:11:18,293 Speaker 18: I have a husky cross German shepherd. 1539 01:11:18,532 --> 01:11:19,652 Speaker 2: Wow, what does that look like? 1540 01:11:21,372 --> 01:11:25,013 Speaker 18: So he has the coloring of a German shepherd and 1541 01:11:26,173 --> 01:11:28,692 Speaker 18: a shorter nose of a German shepherd. 1542 01:11:30,173 --> 01:11:31,012 Speaker 22: But then. 1543 01:11:32,652 --> 01:11:41,092 Speaker 18: Personality wise, he is probably stubborn like a husky, doesn't whine. 1544 01:11:41,652 --> 01:11:48,813 Speaker 18: He more like barks, but very argumentative. Probably the downside 1545 01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:53,732 Speaker 18: of the breed is you've got two very intelligent dogs 1546 01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:58,973 Speaker 18: that have been breeded together, and so he knows exactly 1547 01:11:59,093 --> 01:12:04,412 Speaker 18: what you're saying. He's very very intelligent, but everything's an argument. 1548 01:12:04,692 --> 01:12:07,452 Speaker 18: So if I tell him to sit or roll, it's 1549 01:12:08,492 --> 01:12:12,412 Speaker 18: all talked back and yeah, it takes a couple of 1550 01:12:12,492 --> 01:12:15,972 Speaker 18: times for you to really say and he's like, oh 1551 01:12:16,213 --> 01:12:18,412 Speaker 18: okay then, but it's always with an argument. 1552 01:12:18,652 --> 01:12:22,093 Speaker 2: What about walks? How's how's this husky gym and she 1553 01:12:22,213 --> 01:12:24,173 Speaker 2: been crossed on a walk? And also what's his name? 1554 01:12:25,772 --> 01:12:32,253 Speaker 18: His name's Phoenix, Phoenix, Phoenix. Yeah, on our walk efforts, 1555 01:12:32,572 --> 01:12:36,893 Speaker 18: just me taking them for a walk. He loves to 1556 01:12:37,013 --> 01:12:40,213 Speaker 18: be out in front and so we have an extendable 1557 01:12:40,293 --> 01:12:43,452 Speaker 18: lead and then I will tell him to heal if 1558 01:12:43,572 --> 01:12:48,053 Speaker 18: anyone comes past us. And he's very protective and he'll 1559 01:12:48,772 --> 01:12:53,732 Speaker 18: stay beside me. Loves other dogs, is very very gentle 1560 01:12:53,853 --> 01:12:57,213 Speaker 18: with other dogs. He's just wanting to play and be 1561 01:12:57,412 --> 01:13:02,933 Speaker 18: with them. But I always keep him beside me. He 1562 01:13:03,013 --> 01:13:05,652 Speaker 18: always he goes to doggy daycare and he just loves 1563 01:13:05,732 --> 01:13:06,852 Speaker 18: being with other dogs. 1564 01:13:07,293 --> 01:13:09,852 Speaker 2: Did you did you pick a Husky German Shepherd cross 1565 01:13:09,933 --> 01:13:11,892 Speaker 2: or how did you come across the cross? 1566 01:13:13,173 --> 01:13:18,412 Speaker 18: So previously we had a rot wheeler and we scared 1567 01:13:18,612 --> 01:13:23,492 Speaker 18: absolute family dog, but she was so gentle and we 1568 01:13:23,772 --> 01:13:26,013 Speaker 18: just couldn't be without She passed away and we just 1569 01:13:26,053 --> 01:13:29,293 Speaker 18: couldn't be without a dog. And we had a friend 1570 01:13:29,772 --> 01:13:37,133 Speaker 18: that the German shepherd and husky had mated and they 1571 01:13:37,253 --> 01:13:40,333 Speaker 18: had won one of the litter, and we went, oh, well, 1572 01:13:40,452 --> 01:13:46,612 Speaker 18: we'll we'll have him. But they require a lot of training, 1573 01:13:46,973 --> 01:13:56,892 Speaker 18: a lot of training. Really yep, they are very intelligent dog. Well, yeah, 1574 01:13:56,973 --> 01:14:01,412 Speaker 18: once they trained, they're really good dogs, very good guard dogs. 1575 01:14:01,732 --> 01:14:04,452 Speaker 18: I'm five ft two and he comes up to my waist, 1576 01:14:05,133 --> 01:14:06,053 Speaker 18: so very big dog. 1577 01:14:08,133 --> 01:14:10,172 Speaker 2: I I like the sound of a Husky German Shepherd, 1578 01:14:10,253 --> 01:14:12,812 Speaker 2: the sound beautiful dogs, Matt says, the sexture. If you're 1579 01:14:12,812 --> 01:14:14,973 Speaker 2: a dog, you'd be a shaggy old sheep dog, but 1580 01:14:15,093 --> 01:14:17,932 Speaker 2: with glasses. Do you remember that movie The Shaggy Da. 1581 01:14:18,612 --> 01:14:20,812 Speaker 3: The Shaggy Dare there was a DA. 1582 01:14:20,732 --> 01:14:22,812 Speaker 2: Which is a district attorney that used to turn into 1583 01:14:22,893 --> 01:14:26,652 Speaker 2: a dog, Shaggy Da. I think they remade the Shaggy 1584 01:14:26,692 --> 01:14:27,492 Speaker 2: Da recently. 1585 01:14:27,652 --> 01:14:29,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds like a great dv S. I'll just 1586 01:14:29,572 --> 01:14:31,972 Speaker 3: looking at it now. Fantastic. I'll give that a watch. 1587 01:14:32,452 --> 01:14:34,052 Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighties and number. 1588 01:14:33,893 --> 01:14:36,412 Speaker 2: To call Jerome, Welcome to the show. You've got to 1589 01:14:36,532 --> 01:14:37,972 Speaker 2: cross a Collie cross. 1590 01:14:39,293 --> 01:14:42,412 Speaker 24: Well, she's a Foxy cross and we were quite sure 1591 01:14:42,452 --> 01:14:44,492 Speaker 24: what she was crossed. 1592 01:14:44,173 --> 01:14:48,253 Speaker 21: With, and then we met an elderly farmer who decidedly 1593 01:14:48,412 --> 01:14:53,773 Speaker 21: told us who was beaty Collie. And she's the sharpest 1594 01:14:53,853 --> 01:14:57,412 Speaker 21: dog I ever had. You'd be walking down the road, 1595 01:14:57,532 --> 01:15:00,812 Speaker 21: you know where you're going, and she is the pedestrian crossing. 1596 01:15:02,732 --> 01:15:04,293 Speaker 2: Is it the greatest dog? Do you think it's the 1597 01:15:04,333 --> 01:15:06,932 Speaker 2: greatest dog of all the dogs? 1598 01:15:08,372 --> 01:15:08,492 Speaker 17: Yep? 1599 01:15:09,572 --> 01:15:11,732 Speaker 24: If there was an intruder in the house, she would 1600 01:15:11,772 --> 01:15:13,452 Speaker 24: show you the quickest escape route. 1601 01:15:13,612 --> 01:15:16,652 Speaker 3: Oh right, okay, which he stayed behind her. Take on 1602 01:15:16,732 --> 01:15:20,692 Speaker 3: the intruder. Way you escaped, Well, no, no, you'd. 1603 01:15:20,532 --> 01:15:22,093 Speaker 9: Had to be quick for her to show you the 1604 01:15:22,133 --> 01:15:22,532 Speaker 9: way out. 1605 01:15:24,772 --> 01:15:29,572 Speaker 24: But she understood every word that was going She'd just 1606 01:15:29,692 --> 01:15:32,492 Speaker 24: taken upon herself to go to that. I've got text 1607 01:15:32,572 --> 01:15:35,173 Speaker 24: from a message of mine once at five in the morning, Hey, 1608 01:15:35,253 --> 01:15:38,013 Speaker 24: learn has turned up and I said, all she come 1609 01:15:38,053 --> 01:15:40,053 Speaker 24: home and she's ready. She would work with him for 1610 01:15:40,093 --> 01:15:42,892 Speaker 24: the day and the walk back home. 1611 01:15:43,293 --> 01:15:44,372 Speaker 2: Yeah, smart dog. 1612 01:15:44,572 --> 01:15:47,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, Collie Cross. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties 1613 01:15:47,213 --> 01:15:49,532 Speaker 3: and number to call it is eight minutes to three. 1614 01:15:49,732 --> 01:15:52,812 Speaker 2: Up next souls who I think the greatest dog of 1615 01:15:53,173 --> 01:15:55,452 Speaker 2: all fiction was? 1616 01:15:55,692 --> 01:15:57,532 Speaker 3: Okay, very good, right? Beckon the. 1617 01:15:59,173 --> 01:16:00,293 Speaker 6: Issues that affect you. 1618 01:16:00,612 --> 01:16:02,812 Speaker 1: And a bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath 1619 01:16:02,893 --> 01:16:05,693 Speaker 1: and Taylor Adams afternoons us talks. 1620 01:16:05,412 --> 01:16:05,732 Speaker 17: They'd be. 1621 01:16:08,372 --> 01:16:11,812 Speaker 2: Votes for Scooby Doo for the you know, top fictional 1622 01:16:11,893 --> 01:16:14,293 Speaker 2: dog of all time? But does this mean anything to you? 1623 01:16:17,013 --> 01:16:17,173 Speaker 24: There? 1624 01:16:18,492 --> 01:16:21,972 Speaker 6: It keeps a handh not to me down the room. 1625 01:16:22,812 --> 01:16:24,812 Speaker 3: That's where I like it. 1626 01:16:27,452 --> 01:16:30,573 Speaker 2: Any gen x is out there that can steps? 1627 01:16:30,812 --> 01:16:31,293 Speaker 5: What is that? 1628 01:16:31,772 --> 01:16:32,932 Speaker 3: What's it about? Who's the dog? 1629 01:16:34,093 --> 01:16:37,133 Speaker 2: It's the Littlest Hobo is in the name of the. 1630 01:16:37,133 --> 01:16:39,213 Speaker 3: Show, The Littlest hobo. Yeah, that's cute. 1631 01:16:39,293 --> 01:16:41,972 Speaker 2: That is cute, starring London the dog. 1632 01:16:42,253 --> 01:16:45,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, Darsy's out there, he's loving it. What kind of 1633 01:16:45,333 --> 01:16:47,452 Speaker 3: dog was it. I'm just having a look at it. Oh, 1634 01:16:47,532 --> 01:16:50,492 Speaker 3: it's like some sort of German shepherd's mix with a husky. 1635 01:16:50,652 --> 01:16:54,013 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, beautiful for your fantastic right, rounding out our 1636 01:16:54,053 --> 01:16:57,652 Speaker 3: top five according to the Texas so Boxer number five, 1637 01:16:58,412 --> 01:17:02,293 Speaker 3: English Staffordshire comes in at number four. English Stuffy the 1638 01:17:02,372 --> 01:17:06,732 Speaker 3: Mini Schnauzer comes in at number three, Order Collie number two. 1639 01:17:07,293 --> 01:17:10,173 Speaker 3: But it turns out the best dog breed according to 1640 01:17:10,253 --> 01:17:12,053 Speaker 3: our Texas the good old black lab. 1641 01:17:12,372 --> 01:17:15,412 Speaker 2: Well you took you took these. You know you're telling 1642 01:17:15,492 --> 01:17:19,012 Speaker 2: these votes about before the air break. I reckon greyhounds 1643 01:17:19,053 --> 01:17:20,772 Speaker 2: are coming hot. I'm just seeing like seven or eight 1644 01:17:20,812 --> 01:17:21,892 Speaker 2: texts come through for greyhound. 1645 01:17:21,893 --> 01:17:23,532 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, late start for a greyhound. 1646 01:17:23,732 --> 01:17:28,053 Speaker 2: Should put them in the you know, special commendation for 1647 01:17:28,093 --> 01:17:28,532 Speaker 2: the grehound. 1648 01:17:28,652 --> 01:17:31,732 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, perfect, right, great discussion. Thank you very much 1649 01:17:31,772 --> 01:17:34,093 Speaker 3: to everyone who text and phoned on that one. A 1650 01:17:34,133 --> 01:17:36,772 Speaker 3: little bit of the Littlest Hobo theme song to go 1651 01:17:36,933 --> 01:17:39,732 Speaker 3: to the news, to stay right here. Another topic on 1652 01:17:39,812 --> 01:17:45,492 Speaker 3: the table after three o'clock, maybe to marvel. 1653 01:17:46,253 --> 01:17:47,412 Speaker 6: A, settle down. 1654 01:17:48,973 --> 01:17:49,652 Speaker 20: To Marble. 1655 01:17:49,973 --> 01:17:55,293 Speaker 12: I'll just give you as the world sweet hand two. 1656 01:17:56,572 --> 01:18:00,612 Speaker 6: The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and 1657 01:18:00,973 --> 01:18:01,932 Speaker 6: everything in between. 1658 01:18:02,412 --> 01:18:06,372 Speaker 4: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon Squi Shoder News 1659 01:18:06,492 --> 01:18:07,133 Speaker 4: Talk said the. 1660 01:18:08,333 --> 01:18:10,933 Speaker 3: It to you, welcome back into the show. It is 1661 01:18:11,093 --> 01:18:14,693 Speaker 3: seven pass three. Hope you're having a great Friday afternoon. 1662 01:18:14,812 --> 01:18:17,852 Speaker 3: Coming up in about twenty five minutes. The moment you 1663 01:18:18,013 --> 01:18:21,333 Speaker 3: always wait for on a Friday. New Zealander of the week. 1664 01:18:21,893 --> 01:18:23,253 Speaker 2: Who will it be? 1665 01:18:23,532 --> 01:18:26,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, some big contenders this week, but in the meantime 1666 01:18:26,492 --> 01:18:28,013 Speaker 3: we want to have a chat about christ Church. As 1667 01:18:28,093 --> 01:18:31,932 Speaker 3: long a waits to Kaha Stadium. It has today officially open, 1668 01:18:32,053 --> 01:18:35,572 Speaker 3: marking a major milestone in the city's post earthquake rebuild 1669 01:18:35,652 --> 01:18:38,372 Speaker 3: and future. Is a major events hub. It costs six 1670 01:18:38,452 --> 01:18:41,412 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty three million dollars, it's fully covered, it's 1671 01:18:41,452 --> 01:18:44,013 Speaker 3: got a roof on it, twenty five thousand seats and 1672 01:18:44,293 --> 01:18:47,732 Speaker 3: was completed on time and on budget after four years 1673 01:18:47,732 --> 01:18:50,692 Speaker 3: of construction. So the stadium will now move into its 1674 01:18:50,732 --> 01:18:54,132 Speaker 3: operational phase ahead of hosting its first major events, including 1675 01:18:54,213 --> 01:18:57,452 Speaker 3: a Super Rugby showcase next month, and is expected to 1676 01:18:57,492 --> 01:19:00,333 Speaker 3: play a key role in bringing large sporting and entertainment 1677 01:19:00,372 --> 01:19:03,532 Speaker 3: events back to christ Church after years with a pretty 1678 01:19:03,572 --> 01:19:04,253 Speaker 3: cuddy stadium. 1679 01:19:04,412 --> 01:19:07,732 Speaker 2: So it's had its launch, I guess, and Dan Carter 1680 01:19:07,933 --> 01:19:11,412 Speaker 2: slotted a unis slotted. I don't know where he kicked 1681 01:19:11,452 --> 01:19:12,772 Speaker 2: it from the touch line? Did he kick it from 1682 01:19:12,812 --> 01:19:15,492 Speaker 2: out the front like the first first one through the uprights? 1683 01:19:15,572 --> 01:19:17,052 Speaker 3: Yep, yep, straight in front of the posts. 1684 01:19:17,253 --> 01:19:20,492 Speaker 2: Yeah. So how are you feeling about that in christ Church? 1685 01:19:20,492 --> 01:19:22,372 Speaker 2: How are you about it feeling that nationwide? With this 1686 01:19:22,492 --> 01:19:24,932 Speaker 2: new stadium? Does that change things? Does that change things 1687 01:19:24,973 --> 01:19:27,293 Speaker 2: for christ Church? Does that Does that make the city 1688 01:19:27,492 --> 01:19:29,892 Speaker 2: significantly better? Does it make it six hundred and eighty 1689 01:19:29,893 --> 01:19:30,932 Speaker 2: three million dollars better? 1690 01:19:31,093 --> 01:19:31,333 Speaker 9: Yeah? 1691 01:19:31,652 --> 01:19:33,812 Speaker 3: That is the big question. Oh eight one hundred and 1692 01:19:33,812 --> 01:19:35,173 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty If you want to get it now, 1693 01:19:35,253 --> 01:19:36,492 Speaker 3: I mean, if you go down there and see it, 1694 01:19:36,532 --> 01:19:38,133 Speaker 3: I know you've seen that, and I've seen it. I 1695 01:19:38,173 --> 01:19:41,373 Speaker 3: mean it is in the prime location. It looks fantastic. 1696 01:19:41,452 --> 01:19:43,572 Speaker 3: It's pretty much right in the middle of the CBD. 1697 01:19:43,812 --> 01:19:46,972 Speaker 3: Once you're finished watching a rugby game or or Elton 1698 01:19:47,053 --> 01:19:48,612 Speaker 3: John's not going to be going to be coming, but 1699 01:19:48,732 --> 01:19:52,812 Speaker 3: any other music musician who comes then the walk straight 1700 01:19:52,973 --> 01:19:55,852 Speaker 3: into the bars and into Riverside Market. I mean it 1701 01:19:56,093 --> 01:19:58,532 Speaker 3: works out a treat six hundred and eighty three million bucks, though, 1702 01:19:58,532 --> 01:19:59,412 Speaker 3: that's a big price deck. 1703 01:19:59,893 --> 01:20:02,892 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's four hundred how many, about four hundred 1704 01:20:02,893 --> 01:20:04,093 Speaker 2: thousand people in christ just that's right? 1705 01:20:04,133 --> 01:20:07,412 Speaker 3: Yeah, four fifty yep, four fifty yeah, yeah, we breached 1706 01:20:07,452 --> 01:20:11,412 Speaker 3: the four fifty mark. No, I'm sure, no, no way, 1707 01:20:11,973 --> 01:20:14,093 Speaker 3: don't do christ Church duty like that. Hold on christ 1708 01:20:14,213 --> 01:20:18,492 Speaker 3: Church population, I reckon it's second second in the company. 1709 01:20:18,572 --> 01:20:20,052 Speaker 2: I reckon it be fourteen at most. 1710 01:20:21,093 --> 01:20:24,772 Speaker 3: Cantabrians, come on through, forget the stadium. Just push back 1711 01:20:24,812 --> 01:20:27,293 Speaker 3: on that. Surely it's closing in on five hundred. No, 1712 01:20:30,093 --> 01:20:35,173 Speaker 3: all right, maybe even six hundred. Christ Church population, come on, 1713 01:20:35,293 --> 01:20:38,253 Speaker 3: come on, come on, okay, all right, you might be right. 1714 01:20:39,652 --> 01:20:42,452 Speaker 3: Estimated resident population of christ Church City is approximately four 1715 01:20:42,532 --> 01:20:43,733 Speaker 3: hundred and twelve thousand. 1716 01:20:43,692 --> 01:20:45,333 Speaker 2: All right, so slightly more than what I said. 1717 01:20:45,412 --> 01:20:49,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, for a city the size of that 1718 01:20:49,893 --> 01:20:52,013 Speaker 3: four hundred and twelve thousand, that hurts me a little bit. 1719 01:20:52,492 --> 01:20:55,652 Speaker 3: Six hundred and eighty three million bucks now, I mean, look, 1720 01:20:55,732 --> 01:20:59,572 Speaker 3: there was a lot of consternation when the budget almost 1721 01:20:59,652 --> 01:21:02,253 Speaker 3: doubled Originally that stadium was going to cost about three 1722 01:21:02,333 --> 01:21:05,372 Speaker 3: hundred and forty million at the time. The council said 1723 01:21:05,412 --> 01:21:06,812 Speaker 3: it was a little bit too much and the government 1724 01:21:06,853 --> 01:21:09,173 Speaker 3: said we can't really help you with too much extra money. 1725 01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:11,812 Speaker 3: Then it blew out to close to seven hundred. But 1726 01:21:11,933 --> 01:21:15,133 Speaker 3: now that it's done, is this going to be the best, 1727 01:21:15,253 --> 01:21:16,892 Speaker 3: one of the best stadiums in the country. 1728 01:21:17,333 --> 01:21:20,652 Speaker 2: Well, Donnie says, it's awesome. The new Studium Stadium is 1729 01:21:20,772 --> 01:21:23,012 Speaker 2: money well spent. Yeah, it's Donnie. 1730 01:21:23,053 --> 01:21:23,692 Speaker 9: And what do you say? 1731 01:21:23,732 --> 01:21:25,932 Speaker 3: I wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty is that number 1732 01:21:26,053 --> 01:21:28,412 Speaker 3: nine two nine two? And if you're in other parts 1733 01:21:28,452 --> 01:21:30,213 Speaker 3: of the country, are you going to go down and 1734 01:21:30,412 --> 01:21:32,053 Speaker 3: check it out? Are you a little bit jealous with 1735 01:21:32,173 --> 01:21:35,652 Speaker 3: christ Churcher's new to Kaha stadium. Keen to hear your views. 1736 01:21:36,053 --> 01:21:38,293 Speaker 3: It is ten past three, back very shortly. You're listening 1737 01:21:38,333 --> 01:21:41,612 Speaker 3: to news talks the'b us talk SIBB thirteen past three. 1738 01:21:41,652 --> 01:21:45,532 Speaker 3: It's opening day for christ Church's Tikarha Stadium. So if 1739 01:21:45,572 --> 01:21:47,572 Speaker 3: you're in christ Church, you've fizzed up about this. What 1740 01:21:47,652 --> 01:21:50,412 Speaker 3: will it mean for the city. It's been a long 1741 01:21:50,492 --> 01:21:53,732 Speaker 3: time in the making, fifteen years and for people outside 1742 01:21:53,772 --> 01:21:55,652 Speaker 3: of christ Church. Does it make you a little bit jealous. 1743 01:21:55,853 --> 01:21:58,173 Speaker 2: I've done a little bit of math here, yep. So 1744 01:21:59,013 --> 01:22:01,372 Speaker 2: if the population of christ Church is four hundred and 1745 01:22:01,372 --> 01:22:05,732 Speaker 2: twelve thousand, then that's sixteen hundred and fifty dollars per 1746 01:22:06,333 --> 01:22:09,213 Speaker 2: resident of christ Church, not per rateparwer, per man, woman 1747 01:22:09,293 --> 01:22:09,692 Speaker 2: and child. 1748 01:22:09,853 --> 01:22:10,572 Speaker 3: Sounds about right. 1749 01:22:10,732 --> 01:22:13,372 Speaker 2: Yeah, But as someone texts to see this is the 1750 01:22:13,412 --> 01:22:16,012 Speaker 2: population of Canterbury is seven hundred thousand. But who's contributed 1751 01:22:16,053 --> 01:22:19,133 Speaker 2: so in to it? Because the government, you know, the 1752 01:22:19,412 --> 01:22:22,133 Speaker 2: taxpayers of the country contributed some didn't they they did, 1753 01:22:22,372 --> 01:22:25,253 Speaker 2: and then they knocked out Canterbury's and then christ Church 1754 01:22:25,372 --> 01:22:26,492 Speaker 2: City has borrowed a bunch of. 1755 01:22:26,532 --> 01:22:29,093 Speaker 3: It, right, yeah, but it is christ Church City. So 1756 01:22:29,612 --> 01:22:32,692 Speaker 3: the people of Wymuket Eddy, the people of Selwyn, they 1757 01:22:32,732 --> 01:22:34,652 Speaker 3: didn't put any money into it. And you guys know 1758 01:22:34,812 --> 01:22:38,692 Speaker 3: that Vegas not definitely not Eshburton, they didn't. They're too 1759 01:22:38,732 --> 01:22:40,652 Speaker 3: far away to be fair. They're part of Canterbury, but 1760 01:22:40,732 --> 01:22:42,333 Speaker 3: they are a long drive about an hour and a half. 1761 01:22:42,652 --> 01:22:44,492 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was a point of consternation as I 1762 01:22:44,572 --> 01:22:46,492 Speaker 3: love the people of why muket Eddie and Selwyn, but 1763 01:22:46,572 --> 01:22:48,612 Speaker 3: you guys know, you didn't put a dollar into that stadium. 1764 01:22:48,612 --> 01:22:50,253 Speaker 2: It was just the people of christ Chach City. Have 1765 01:22:50,372 --> 01:22:52,412 Speaker 2: you been in there? Have you checked it out? I've 1766 01:22:52,492 --> 01:22:56,572 Speaker 2: driven past it and it looks like an impressive, impressive structure. Yeah, 1767 01:22:56,812 --> 01:22:58,652 Speaker 2: the six says, Hey, Matt and Tyler, just a correction. 1768 01:22:58,732 --> 01:23:01,772 Speaker 2: People saying you are wrong to say Tikaha Stadium are correct. 1769 01:23:02,013 --> 01:23:05,372 Speaker 2: The park is called Tikaha, but the actual stadium is 1770 01:23:05,452 --> 01:23:10,972 Speaker 2: one New Zealand stadium. Being pedantic, Allen. We love padentisism, Allan, 1771 01:23:11,053 --> 01:23:13,692 Speaker 2: but can I be pedantic back what I was saying 1772 01:23:13,732 --> 01:23:15,852 Speaker 2: before when someone said it's one New Zealand stadium is 1773 01:23:15,893 --> 01:23:18,333 Speaker 2: I'm just saying that they haven't paid me any money. 1774 01:23:18,452 --> 01:23:20,572 Speaker 2: I always think it's odd when say, the Cake team 1775 01:23:20,652 --> 01:23:23,972 Speaker 2: changes its name and you got slagged off by someone 1776 01:23:24,053 --> 01:23:26,333 Speaker 2: recently because you were calling it the Caketon and they said, no, 1777 01:23:26,452 --> 01:23:26,812 Speaker 2: it's Yeah. 1778 01:23:26,853 --> 01:23:28,293 Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, I was doing an interview 1779 01:23:28,532 --> 01:23:31,892 Speaker 3: and it was with the current sponsors at the time 1780 01:23:31,973 --> 01:23:34,372 Speaker 3: of the Caketon, and I call it the Caketon and 1781 01:23:34,933 --> 01:23:36,492 Speaker 3: they went off of me. So excuse me, It's not 1782 01:23:36,532 --> 01:23:38,732 Speaker 3: the Caketon. It is dot dot dot dot dot. I 1783 01:23:38,812 --> 01:23:40,772 Speaker 3: mean I could probably say at the time it was 1784 01:23:40,812 --> 01:23:42,492 Speaker 3: Sky Stadium. Is it still Sky Stadium? 1785 01:23:43,093 --> 01:23:44,772 Speaker 2: I don't know. Is it the Edmunds Cape team? 1786 01:23:44,893 --> 01:23:47,452 Speaker 3: Yeah, beside Mount Smart. I know that's got a new sponsor. 1787 01:23:47,532 --> 01:23:50,213 Speaker 3: They're not paying me. It's a fine business. I've got 1788 01:23:50,253 --> 01:23:52,492 Speaker 3: no problem with go Media. That's what they called. It's 1789 01:23:52,532 --> 01:23:54,293 Speaker 3: a fine business. But I know I have to call 1790 01:23:54,333 --> 01:23:54,812 Speaker 3: it go Media. 1791 01:23:54,933 --> 01:23:56,932 Speaker 2: Is Eden Park the only stadium in the country that's 1792 01:23:56,973 --> 01:24:00,293 Speaker 2: kept its dignity because it's just Eden Park our national stadium? Yeah, 1793 01:24:00,372 --> 01:24:02,333 Speaker 2: it is our national stadium. Some people right now be 1794 01:24:02,372 --> 01:24:04,732 Speaker 2: trying to say Tikaha is the national stadium, but I 1795 01:24:04,812 --> 01:24:09,612 Speaker 2: think Tikaroa is the name of the park in precinct 1796 01:24:09,933 --> 01:24:11,572 Speaker 2: and Tikah has the name of the stadium. I don't know. 1797 01:24:11,652 --> 01:24:12,572 Speaker 2: I'm just spitballing here. 1798 01:24:12,612 --> 01:24:14,013 Speaker 3: I think you're right. Yeah, I think that was the 1799 01:24:14,133 --> 01:24:14,732 Speaker 3: history behind it. 1800 01:24:15,013 --> 01:24:18,612 Speaker 2: But equally, you can call anything anything you want, right, Yeah, exactly. 1801 01:24:18,452 --> 01:24:20,492 Speaker 3: Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 1802 01:24:20,652 --> 01:24:22,972 Speaker 3: number to call if you've checked out the new stadium. 1803 01:24:23,053 --> 01:24:23,732 Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. 1804 01:24:23,973 --> 01:24:26,213 Speaker 2: Christ Chich is growing, lots of young Auklund is moving here. 1805 01:24:26,372 --> 01:24:28,812 Speaker 2: My neighbor's son on both sides are from Auckland. 1806 01:24:29,853 --> 01:24:32,173 Speaker 3: I mean it raises. Look, I know there's some there's 1807 01:24:32,213 --> 01:24:34,812 Speaker 3: been some stadium chat up in Auckland and there's some 1808 01:24:34,893 --> 01:24:37,293 Speaker 3: stadium chat down on Wellington as well. So when you 1809 01:24:37,372 --> 01:24:39,293 Speaker 3: look at six hundred and eighty three million dollars spent 1810 01:24:39,372 --> 01:24:41,532 Speaker 3: on christ that was a long time coming. But does 1811 01:24:41,572 --> 01:24:43,933 Speaker 3: that changed the game when we have the discussions on 1812 01:24:43,973 --> 01:24:46,532 Speaker 3: what's going on up here? For example, you know there's 1813 01:24:46,532 --> 01:24:48,173 Speaker 3: been a lot or two and fro about do we 1814 01:24:48,253 --> 01:24:50,372 Speaker 3: need a new stadium and where are we going to 1815 01:24:50,452 --> 01:24:53,852 Speaker 3: put the money? Then you look at Eden Park the 1816 01:24:53,933 --> 01:24:56,293 Speaker 3: discussion about having a roof. I mean, is it time 1817 01:24:56,532 --> 01:24:58,612 Speaker 3: just to pull the trigger right there, get government around 1818 01:24:58,652 --> 01:24:58,893 Speaker 3: and do it. 1819 01:24:58,933 --> 01:25:02,612 Speaker 2: I think in New Zealand every city should have a 1820 01:25:02,772 --> 01:25:06,732 Speaker 2: major stadium with a roof on it. Absolutely. It's insane 1821 01:25:06,933 --> 01:25:09,933 Speaker 2: that the cake t was built without a roof on it. 1822 01:25:10,053 --> 01:25:12,973 Speaker 2: That was just ridiculous. What a silly thing to do 1823 01:25:13,053 --> 01:25:16,893 Speaker 2: in Wellington, Yeah, outrageous. So for soth Bar fantastic with 1824 01:25:16,973 --> 01:25:19,253 Speaker 2: his roof on it, to Kaha fantastic with his roof 1825 01:25:19,293 --> 01:25:21,492 Speaker 2: on it, You've got to put a roof on Eden Park. 1826 01:25:21,933 --> 01:25:26,852 Speaker 2: Otherwise in this country fantastic country, But we get a 1827 01:25:26,933 --> 01:25:31,053 Speaker 2: lot of precipitation yep, and it's hard for people to 1828 01:25:31,093 --> 01:25:33,612 Speaker 2: put on. You know, you can play rugby, you can 1829 01:25:33,652 --> 01:25:37,372 Speaker 2: play rugby in the rain, but it's not necessarily that 1830 01:25:37,492 --> 01:25:40,652 Speaker 2: much fun for the audience. But concerts, so many other 1831 01:25:40,732 --> 01:25:43,293 Speaker 2: things just just to ruled out by not having having 1832 01:25:43,333 --> 01:25:49,093 Speaker 2: a roof on it. So I think, I think, I 1833 01:25:49,173 --> 01:25:51,173 Speaker 2: think you've got to put a roof on the Eden 1834 01:25:51,213 --> 01:25:53,732 Speaker 2: Park whatever it costs. Why would cut a bunch of 1835 01:25:53,812 --> 01:25:54,213 Speaker 2: other stuff? 1836 01:25:54,293 --> 01:25:56,452 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't the government put money into that? Like Joe, 1837 01:25:56,492 --> 01:25:59,013 Speaker 3: there's a genuine question as they gave a bunch of 1838 01:25:59,093 --> 01:26:00,972 Speaker 3: cash to christ Us to get it over the line, 1839 01:26:01,133 --> 01:26:02,852 Speaker 3: and there's a whole bunch of reasons for that. But 1840 01:26:03,333 --> 01:26:06,772 Speaker 3: if it makes sense too and having events and getting 1841 01:26:06,853 --> 01:26:09,052 Speaker 3: people to a place like Eden Park, that is great 1842 01:26:09,093 --> 01:26:11,733 Speaker 3: for the economy, no doubt about it. All the wenes. 1843 01:26:11,893 --> 01:26:13,692 Speaker 2: Ethqua because we didn't have an earthquake up here. Maybe 1844 01:26:13,812 --> 01:26:15,612 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think because if you if you did, 1845 01:26:15,732 --> 01:26:18,012 Speaker 2: if you now right now said let's put a roof 1846 01:26:18,093 --> 01:26:21,013 Speaker 2: on Eden Park, then someone would go. Whatever the du 1847 01:26:21,053 --> 01:26:22,372 Speaker 2: Nuden hospital. 1848 01:26:23,053 --> 01:26:24,812 Speaker 3: It goes back to let the need in hospital. What 1849 01:26:24,933 --> 01:26:27,053 Speaker 3: do you say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is 1850 01:26:27,133 --> 01:26:29,732 Speaker 3: christ showing the rest of the country how to do it? 1851 01:26:29,853 --> 01:26:32,293 Speaker 3: Do we need to get on with getting a roof 1852 01:26:32,372 --> 01:26:33,173 Speaker 3: on the likes of Eden. 1853 01:26:33,133 --> 01:26:36,333 Speaker 2: Park Here in Wellington we spent five hundred k on 1854 01:26:36,372 --> 01:26:39,333 Speaker 2: a Pooh processing plant that apparently wasn't really required. I 1855 01:26:39,412 --> 01:26:43,892 Speaker 2: know which one I'd prefer. Cheers Rob. This textas says 1856 01:26:44,013 --> 01:26:46,253 Speaker 2: the new stadium christ Church has now been called the 1857 01:26:46,293 --> 01:26:46,852 Speaker 2: Bird's Nest. 1858 01:26:47,093 --> 01:26:49,173 Speaker 3: All right, okay, yeah, it's got to come up with 1859 01:26:49,213 --> 01:26:51,652 Speaker 3: a nickname at some stage. That's early. The Bird's Nest. 1860 01:26:52,093 --> 01:26:54,732 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1861 01:26:54,853 --> 01:26:57,772 Speaker 3: Join the conversation. Cheer your view. If you've been to 1862 01:26:58,253 --> 01:27:00,973 Speaker 3: the new Tikaha Stadium or you're in christ Church, what 1863 01:27:01,133 --> 01:27:03,652 Speaker 3: is this going to mean for the city? And if 1864 01:27:03,973 --> 01:27:05,652 Speaker 3: you're in other parts of the country, is it time 1865 01:27:05,692 --> 01:27:06,972 Speaker 3: to put a roof on all of the other ones 1866 01:27:07,013 --> 01:27:10,132 Speaker 3: as well? It is eighteen past three Beggary shortly. 1867 01:27:13,812 --> 01:27:15,132 Speaker 6: Mad Heathen Tyler Adams. 1868 01:27:15,253 --> 01:27:18,492 Speaker 1: Afternoons call OH eight hundred and eighty eighty on UTH 1869 01:27:18,572 --> 01:27:19,293 Speaker 1: Talks EDB. 1870 01:27:19,612 --> 01:27:22,732 Speaker 3: News Talks EDB. Excuse me, it is twenty past three 1871 01:27:23,133 --> 01:27:25,412 Speaker 3: and we are talking about the opening off to Kaha 1872 01:27:25,532 --> 01:27:27,772 Speaker 3: stadium down in christ Jeische opening day to day. It's 1873 01:27:27,772 --> 01:27:30,253 Speaker 3: been a long time coming. So if you're in christ Jewch, 1874 01:27:30,333 --> 01:27:31,612 Speaker 3: what is this going to mean for the city. Oh, 1875 01:27:31,612 --> 01:27:33,412 Speaker 3: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number? 1876 01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:36,053 Speaker 2: This text says, I hate hate, hate hate sports. The 1877 01:27:36,133 --> 01:27:38,612 Speaker 2: ridiculous money they are paid for doing what they love. 1878 01:27:39,253 --> 01:27:42,892 Speaker 2: Could we spread could be spread evenly to most New Zealanders. Yeah, 1879 01:27:43,173 --> 01:27:44,973 Speaker 2: but you're not very good at something. A lot of 1880 01:27:45,013 --> 01:27:46,892 Speaker 2: New Zealand aren't great at something, so you get paid 1881 01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:48,852 Speaker 2: more if you're good at something. Then if you're not 1882 01:27:48,853 --> 01:27:50,532 Speaker 2: good at something, that's the way it works. And very 1883 01:27:50,532 --> 01:27:53,093 Speaker 2: good I gues that's our across time we get better 1884 01:27:53,133 --> 01:27:55,892 Speaker 2: and better and better and forward to the future. Yeah, 1885 01:27:55,973 --> 01:27:58,253 Speaker 2: so get really good and competent at something and you'll 1886 01:27:58,253 --> 01:27:58,852 Speaker 2: get paid more. 1887 01:27:58,973 --> 01:28:00,572 Speaker 3: Yep, to the market, get the treats. 1888 01:28:01,133 --> 01:28:03,692 Speaker 2: Isn't Eden Park all different heights? How it all roof works? 1889 01:28:03,772 --> 01:28:05,812 Speaker 2: So the way they'd look at building a roof on 1890 01:28:05,973 --> 01:28:08,452 Speaker 2: Eden Park is kind of like an easy app. The 1891 01:28:08,492 --> 01:28:11,013 Speaker 2: plans are that while you're still having functions there, they 1892 01:28:11,093 --> 01:28:13,492 Speaker 2: put the legs up right and then they put the 1893 01:28:13,612 --> 01:28:15,972 Speaker 2: roof over it like that. This new technology for putting 1894 01:28:15,973 --> 01:28:17,972 Speaker 2: a roof on a stadium smart, So you don't rebuild 1895 01:28:18,013 --> 01:28:20,932 Speaker 2: the whole thing, you see what I'm kind of saying. Yeah, yeah, 1896 01:28:21,173 --> 01:28:22,852 Speaker 2: you put it up kind of like a marquee. So 1897 01:28:23,053 --> 01:28:25,612 Speaker 2: the build the legs and the plans for Eden Park. 1898 01:28:25,652 --> 01:28:30,173 Speaker 2: If they did, it's so awesome. So the seats could 1899 01:28:31,133 --> 01:28:33,452 Speaker 2: slide back in like they do at Idyard Stadium. So 1900 01:28:33,812 --> 01:28:35,812 Speaker 2: and well, what's the Idioard stadium called now? Is it 1901 01:28:35,893 --> 01:28:38,772 Speaker 2: called Marvel Stadium? Yes, slide back in so it can 1902 01:28:38,812 --> 01:28:40,932 Speaker 2: be the full size for a cricket ground. 1903 01:28:41,253 --> 01:28:43,412 Speaker 3: That sounds like a great idea, I mean, compared to 1904 01:28:43,492 --> 01:28:46,213 Speaker 3: building a brand new stadium in Auckland, that's surely the 1905 01:28:46,253 --> 01:28:46,572 Speaker 3: way to go. 1906 01:28:46,692 --> 01:28:48,412 Speaker 2: But what do you say, some of the best concerts 1907 01:28:48,412 --> 01:28:50,572 Speaker 2: I've been to we're intrential rain. Wanting a roof on 1908 01:28:50,652 --> 01:28:53,333 Speaker 2: everything is a sign of weakness, Johnny, it's actually you're 1909 01:28:53,452 --> 01:28:57,093 Speaker 2: speaking to me there. Yeah. Yeah, I love claiming things 1910 01:28:57,133 --> 01:28:58,372 Speaker 2: for a sign a week, that's true. 1911 01:28:58,572 --> 01:29:00,133 Speaker 3: And you love running in the rain, you love doing 1912 01:29:00,173 --> 01:29:01,572 Speaker 3: a lot of stuff in the rain. You slipped on 1913 01:29:01,652 --> 01:29:02,932 Speaker 3: a veranda for a better week. 1914 01:29:02,933 --> 01:29:05,732 Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. And as I've said before, humans are waterproof. 1915 01:29:05,973 --> 01:29:09,452 Speaker 2: I mean we can drown, but rain it's fine. 1916 01:29:09,532 --> 01:29:11,412 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit of rain. Never heard anybody? Very 1917 01:29:11,452 --> 01:29:14,612 Speaker 3: good Johnny good for pushing back, Johnny O. Eight hundred 1918 01:29:14,612 --> 01:29:18,213 Speaker 3: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call? Greg? 1919 01:29:18,532 --> 01:29:18,892 Speaker 3: How are you. 1920 01:29:21,053 --> 01:29:21,333 Speaker 7: Today? 1921 01:29:21,572 --> 01:29:21,772 Speaker 20: Yeah? 1922 01:29:21,853 --> 01:29:23,412 Speaker 3: Pretty well, hope you are too. So what do you 1923 01:29:23,452 --> 01:29:25,933 Speaker 3: reckon about roofs on stadiums. 1924 01:29:26,692 --> 01:29:30,013 Speaker 16: We're really happy for christ Chirts, but gutter here in 1925 01:29:30,053 --> 01:29:32,492 Speaker 16: Wellington because we're just not going to see another concert. 1926 01:29:33,452 --> 01:29:37,372 Speaker 16: We've already missed out Fighters and yeah probably Williams and 1927 01:29:38,173 --> 01:29:41,612 Speaker 16: we're going to struggle now. But just you know, it's 1928 01:29:42,253 --> 01:29:45,612 Speaker 16: the what's the Wellington weather? Yeah, it's just too big 1929 01:29:45,692 --> 01:29:47,452 Speaker 16: a risk for the promoters to bring those sort of 1930 01:29:47,492 --> 01:29:49,652 Speaker 16: things to here when you can go to christ Church 1931 01:29:49,692 --> 01:29:51,213 Speaker 16: and guarantee that it's going to be a great day, 1932 01:29:51,452 --> 01:29:51,612 Speaker 16: you know. 1933 01:29:52,053 --> 01:29:55,093 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean well, I mean the day today with 1934 01:29:55,213 --> 01:29:57,452 Speaker 2: that big launch in christ Chuchure was terrible weather. It 1935 01:29:57,532 --> 01:30:00,333 Speaker 2: was raining, which just proved how useful it there's to 1936 01:30:00,412 --> 01:30:02,093 Speaker 2: have a roof. You know, it's kind of the best, 1937 01:30:02,213 --> 01:30:05,052 Speaker 2: the best, the best weather to demonstrate that they needed 1938 01:30:05,053 --> 01:30:06,812 Speaker 2: a stadium with a roof on. It was terrible weather. 1939 01:30:06,893 --> 01:30:09,492 Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, I quite a nice day here today. 1940 01:30:09,572 --> 01:30:11,812 Speaker 24: But not too bad. 1941 01:30:12,173 --> 01:30:14,652 Speaker 16: My mate work for Fitture's construction when they've built the 1942 01:30:14,692 --> 01:30:18,612 Speaker 16: Wellington Stadium, so I've actually talked to him about can 1943 01:30:18,652 --> 01:30:20,053 Speaker 16: we build a roof on it? And here reckons it 1944 01:30:20,053 --> 01:30:22,772 Speaker 16: would be almost impossible because they there was a fair 1945 01:30:22,772 --> 01:30:25,293 Speaker 16: sum that lightweight concrete was used. When you're in that 1946 01:30:25,412 --> 01:30:28,532 Speaker 16: stadium and everyone's walking around, you can actually he called 1947 01:30:28,532 --> 01:30:31,253 Speaker 16: it to flection and you can feel helping wobble if 1948 01:30:31,293 --> 01:30:33,173 Speaker 16: it feels like an earthquake, and it's because it's all 1949 01:30:33,213 --> 01:30:37,572 Speaker 16: on lightweight concrete too. Just a similar design is the 1950 01:30:37,732 --> 01:30:40,452 Speaker 16: strength and you can't add any more weight to it. 1951 01:30:41,053 --> 01:30:43,852 Speaker 16: So that, you know, to build a roof over in 1952 01:30:43,893 --> 01:30:48,093 Speaker 16: an existing stadium was incredibly expensive. It's probably cheaper to 1953 01:30:48,213 --> 01:30:49,372 Speaker 16: knock it down and start again. 1954 01:30:49,893 --> 01:30:51,933 Speaker 5: I think you'll find the Kenbury. 1955 01:30:52,452 --> 01:30:55,333 Speaker 16: Stadium is quite compact. Yeah, you find that the steins 1956 01:30:55,333 --> 01:30:59,013 Speaker 16: are going to be really steep and ye where the 1957 01:30:59,093 --> 01:31:01,333 Speaker 16: Wellington Stadium it's just it's just too big to put 1958 01:31:01,372 --> 01:31:03,053 Speaker 16: a giant umbrella over the top. 1959 01:31:03,093 --> 01:31:04,732 Speaker 2: But well, I finally, if they'd gone back and if 1960 01:31:04,732 --> 01:31:06,852 Speaker 2: we could go back in time with the cake tin, 1961 01:31:07,013 --> 01:31:10,492 Speaker 2: if they just made it person purpose bolt for rugby 1962 01:31:10,692 --> 01:31:16,092 Speaker 2: and Rectangular Field, Sports and Basin Reserve. The Cricket Basin 1963 01:31:16,133 --> 01:31:19,213 Speaker 2: Reserve is the greatest cricket ground in the country. It's fantastic. 1964 01:31:20,173 --> 01:31:20,372 Speaker 12: Yeah. 1965 01:31:20,372 --> 01:31:22,372 Speaker 16: I remember the debate and talking to my mate because 1966 01:31:22,372 --> 01:31:25,053 Speaker 16: he was building it. It was because it was going 1967 01:31:25,093 --> 01:31:30,613 Speaker 16: to be a multi purper stadium, fall cricket for Edinburgh, Tattoos, 1968 01:31:30,652 --> 01:31:33,093 Speaker 16: you know, all those events that it was going to 1969 01:31:33,133 --> 01:31:36,612 Speaker 16: be at all Purpose Stadium. But it's also made it 1970 01:31:37,293 --> 01:31:40,452 Speaker 16: kind of everything. Yeah, great cricket ground. It's not a 1971 01:31:40,492 --> 01:31:44,333 Speaker 16: great ground, you know, it's yeah, and I love watching 1972 01:31:44,372 --> 01:31:47,412 Speaker 16: cricket at the Basin, so yeah, I missed the one days, yeah, 1973 01:31:47,412 --> 01:31:47,892 Speaker 16: that's for sure. 1974 01:31:48,133 --> 01:31:48,293 Speaker 13: Yeah. 1975 01:31:48,333 --> 01:31:49,732 Speaker 2: And then the part of the deal, right is that 1976 01:31:49,812 --> 01:31:52,732 Speaker 2: they can't have one day is at the Basin because 1977 01:31:52,933 --> 01:31:55,372 Speaker 2: part of the deal was that cricket would be played 1978 01:31:55,893 --> 01:31:58,013 Speaker 2: in the Cake Tin. To make it work. There have 1979 01:31:58,093 --> 01:32:00,452 Speaker 2: been some fantastic games of cricket at the Cake Tin, 1980 01:32:00,893 --> 01:32:06,812 Speaker 2: like twenty fifteen Black Caps the England where Brendan McCallum 1981 01:32:06,973 --> 01:32:08,253 Speaker 2: and went crazy. 1982 01:32:08,452 --> 01:32:12,732 Speaker 16: Yeah, my calendar, the first rep shop to Shaun tap 1983 01:32:15,812 --> 01:32:18,692 Speaker 16: we wore We nearly wore that ball, so yeah, that 1984 01:32:18,812 --> 01:32:19,972 Speaker 16: was pretty pretty outsteanding. 1985 01:32:20,093 --> 01:32:24,892 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, if I say one thing about christ 1986 01:32:25,013 --> 01:32:27,053 Speaker 3: Church and maybe they had a bit easier, but you've 1987 01:32:27,093 --> 01:32:29,572 Speaker 3: got to push back against the Winges because talking about 1988 01:32:29,612 --> 01:32:32,492 Speaker 3: cricket Hagley Park, there was this group called hands Off Hagley. 1989 01:32:32,492 --> 01:32:35,213 Speaker 3: They didn't want anybody doing anything to Hagley Park and 1990 01:32:35,333 --> 01:32:38,372 Speaker 3: they had this idea for the cricket over It's fantastic now. 1991 01:32:38,692 --> 01:32:42,652 Speaker 3: But thankfully everybody stood up and said, no, buggy you Winges, 1992 01:32:42,732 --> 01:32:44,692 Speaker 3: we do need a cricket ground and it's okay to 1993 01:32:44,732 --> 01:32:46,213 Speaker 3: take a little bit of Hagley Park and we're just 1994 01:32:46,293 --> 01:32:48,732 Speaker 3: going to get it done. Same with the stadium. So 1995 01:32:48,933 --> 01:32:52,013 Speaker 3: if anything, christ Church shut down the Winges, shut down 1996 01:32:52,013 --> 01:32:54,612 Speaker 3: the squeaky wheels and just said we're going to do this. 1997 01:32:54,893 --> 01:32:57,173 Speaker 3: Shut up, you're a small group. We're going to get 1998 01:32:57,213 --> 01:32:59,093 Speaker 3: it done. So maybe the rest of the country can 1999 01:32:59,213 --> 01:33:01,093 Speaker 3: just learn a little bit from that. Don't worry about 2000 01:33:01,093 --> 01:33:02,812 Speaker 3: the wines, don't worry about the small groups, don't worry 2001 01:33:02,853 --> 01:33:03,612 Speaker 3: about the hell of glass. 2002 01:33:03,652 --> 01:33:05,492 Speaker 2: Imagine trying to get the money together now to replace 2003 01:33:05,532 --> 01:33:06,093 Speaker 2: the cake to know. 2004 01:33:06,572 --> 01:33:09,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's tough and stuff. I think Wellington, Yeah 2005 01:33:09,572 --> 01:33:11,572 Speaker 3: you've got that stadium for some time, You've. 2006 01:33:11,412 --> 01:33:13,172 Speaker 2: Got your you've got your pipe bombs. 2007 01:33:14,412 --> 01:33:16,213 Speaker 16: We can't even afford to get rid of the yellow seats. 2008 01:33:16,812 --> 01:33:18,892 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thanks for your call. 2009 01:33:18,933 --> 01:33:19,173 Speaker 3: Greg. 2010 01:33:19,213 --> 01:33:21,372 Speaker 2: This text said it's one New Zealand Stadium, not to 2011 01:33:21,452 --> 01:33:24,892 Speaker 2: Kaha no as this other text that says the official 2012 01:33:24,973 --> 01:33:28,452 Speaker 2: names for stadium in New zealandaris follows the Caketon and Wellington, 2013 01:33:29,173 --> 01:33:32,253 Speaker 2: the Fortress in Auckland yep, the New Birds Nest in 2014 01:33:32,333 --> 01:33:36,572 Speaker 2: christ Church, and the systema Lunchbox in Dneeda. So those 2015 01:33:36,572 --> 01:33:38,692 Speaker 2: are the official names. So you're wrong person that's saying 2016 01:33:38,732 --> 01:33:41,132 Speaker 2: that it's called one New Zealand stadium. So the Caketon 2017 01:33:41,173 --> 01:33:44,213 Speaker 2: and Wellington, the Fortress in Auckland, the New Birds Nest 2018 01:33:44,253 --> 01:33:46,452 Speaker 2: in christ Church, and the systema Lunchbox Indneeda. 2019 01:33:46,572 --> 01:33:50,812 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good. Couple more texts coming through. Yeah, get 2020 01:33:50,853 --> 01:33:55,133 Speaker 3: a guys. You can put blow up roofs on they 2021 01:33:55,213 --> 01:33:58,293 Speaker 3: look like a Liloh. A blow up roof on a stadium. 2022 01:33:59,093 --> 01:34:00,532 Speaker 3: I don't know is that a thing? I feel like 2023 01:34:00,652 --> 01:34:02,692 Speaker 3: someone's taking the mick there. You can't put a mess 2024 01:34:02,732 --> 01:34:04,093 Speaker 3: of Liloh on a stadium, can you. 2025 01:34:04,293 --> 01:34:05,732 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know, but a few years ago people 2026 01:34:05,772 --> 01:34:07,932 Speaker 2: didn't think that you could blow up tents and now 2027 01:34:08,013 --> 01:34:12,452 Speaker 2: you have inflatable tents and they're fantastic. Yeah, so inflatable everything. Yeh, 2028 01:34:12,572 --> 01:34:16,652 Speaker 2: think outside the box, sorry, Matt Saxon. Oval is the 2029 01:34:16,692 --> 01:34:18,612 Speaker 2: best cricket ground in the country. Are Ian Nelson? 2030 01:34:18,812 --> 01:34:19,132 Speaker 3: Lovely? 2031 01:34:19,333 --> 01:34:20,173 Speaker 2: Great? Great Oval? 2032 01:34:20,293 --> 01:34:21,013 Speaker 3: Done of iph It's the best. 2033 01:34:21,053 --> 01:34:24,653 Speaker 2: It's up there, though the most scenic might be Queenstown. 2034 01:34:25,053 --> 01:34:28,293 Speaker 3: Yes, the remarkables in the backgrounds. This is a text 2035 01:34:28,412 --> 01:34:30,652 Speaker 3: from an Irates contemporary and get our guys. I'm in 2036 01:34:30,732 --> 01:34:33,652 Speaker 3: christ Church and I hate the new stadium. A complete 2037 01:34:33,732 --> 01:34:36,652 Speaker 3: waste of money and rest assured it will become another 2038 01:34:36,772 --> 01:34:39,173 Speaker 3: drain on the cities and finances. Should have put the 2039 01:34:39,173 --> 01:34:42,972 Speaker 3: money into arts. Theater brings far more money than sport 2040 01:34:43,133 --> 01:34:47,892 Speaker 3: in this country. Facts theater, Yeah, theater's not bringing Look, 2041 01:34:47,973 --> 01:34:50,293 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with theater. I don't want to get an 2042 01:34:50,293 --> 01:34:55,573 Speaker 3: old Timothy Shamalama whatever on this. But ballet and jazz fantastic. 2043 01:34:55,893 --> 01:34:57,333 Speaker 3: But it's not bringing more money than sport. 2044 01:34:57,372 --> 01:34:59,053 Speaker 2: How many times do you get how often you get 2045 01:34:59,093 --> 01:35:02,213 Speaker 2: thirty thousand people to go and see a play. I 2046 01:35:02,293 --> 01:35:04,773 Speaker 2: mean I've got nothing against plays. Good on them, fantastic 2047 01:35:05,013 --> 01:35:08,293 Speaker 2: Love the arts. My partner went to play the other day. 2048 01:35:08,612 --> 01:35:11,572 Speaker 2: It was the murder on the Orone Express in Auckland 2049 01:35:11,612 --> 01:35:14,293 Speaker 2: at the theater here said it was fantastic and it 2050 01:35:14,452 --> 01:35:17,692 Speaker 2: was very busy. Yes, wasn't thirty thousand people? Who there? 2051 01:35:17,973 --> 01:35:20,173 Speaker 2: That's a hard ass getting thirty thousand people to the arts. 2052 01:35:21,173 --> 01:35:24,652 Speaker 2: This Texas says precipitation. Matt Ireland and Scotland have open 2053 01:35:24,692 --> 01:35:29,612 Speaker 2: stadiums and brilliant atmosphere. What crap. Just harden up man, Yeah, 2054 01:35:29,732 --> 01:35:31,532 Speaker 2: I mean people call him telling me to hard enough. 2055 01:35:31,572 --> 01:35:33,253 Speaker 2: It's actually working for me a little bit there. I'm 2056 01:35:33,253 --> 01:35:35,293 Speaker 2: thinking that maybe we can just end all a bit 2057 01:35:35,333 --> 01:35:35,612 Speaker 2: of rain. 2058 01:35:35,812 --> 01:35:39,972 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this one shots fired from Mars Ta Kaha 2059 01:35:40,133 --> 01:35:42,492 Speaker 3: is just going to be a stadium filled with even 2060 01:35:42,652 --> 01:35:47,333 Speaker 3: more rhymes with tankers Mars. Come on mate, what really? 2061 01:35:47,572 --> 01:35:47,772 Speaker 20: Yeah? 2062 01:35:48,053 --> 01:35:50,973 Speaker 3: I mean that's the old one eyed Cantabrian situation. Come on, 2063 01:35:51,293 --> 01:35:52,133 Speaker 3: good people down there. 2064 01:35:52,253 --> 01:35:52,412 Speaker 6: Yeah. 2065 01:35:52,452 --> 01:35:54,492 Speaker 2: Someone said that the stadium should be called the one 2066 01:35:54,532 --> 01:35:57,452 Speaker 2: Eyed Stadium or the Big the Big Eye, the Big Eye. 2067 01:35:57,532 --> 01:35:57,893 Speaker 12: I like that. 2068 01:35:58,213 --> 01:36:00,932 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, that is where we'll leave it. Thank 2069 01:36:00,973 --> 01:36:03,213 Speaker 3: you very much to everyone who text and called on 2070 01:36:03,492 --> 01:36:07,173 Speaker 3: that discussion, and to everybody down in christ Shoes, Congratulations 2071 01:36:07,253 --> 01:36:08,012 Speaker 3: on your new stadium. 2072 01:36:08,372 --> 01:36:09,012 Speaker 2: Looks fantastic. 2073 01:36:09,253 --> 01:36:10,532 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. It's going to go well for you. 2074 01:36:10,652 --> 01:36:14,452 Speaker 2: And congratulations. That's sixteen hundred and fifty eight dollars each 2075 01:36:14,572 --> 01:36:15,772 Speaker 2: well spent down there in Chryst. 2076 01:36:17,053 --> 01:36:18,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get value out of it, I'm 2077 01:36:18,732 --> 01:36:22,173 Speaker 3: sure right. Coming up after the headlines, the moment you're 2078 01:36:22,213 --> 01:36:25,532 Speaker 3: all waiting for New Zealander of the wheat. 2079 01:36:25,732 --> 01:36:28,732 Speaker 2: My girlfriend is blow up. Okay, says this texter. Good 2080 01:36:28,772 --> 01:36:30,572 Speaker 2: for you, works well for both of us. It's from 2081 01:36:30,652 --> 01:36:32,173 Speaker 2: Colin interesting. Okay, we'll leave it on that. 2082 01:36:32,333 --> 01:36:33,132 Speaker 3: Happy days. 2083 01:36:35,053 --> 01:36:37,452 Speaker 6: Us talk said be headlines with. 2084 01:36:37,612 --> 01:36:40,692 Speaker 13: Your Ride, New Zealand's number one taxi app. Download your 2085 01:36:40,812 --> 01:36:44,932 Speaker 13: Ride today. The government's released its plan around conserving fuel 2086 01:36:45,053 --> 01:36:48,452 Speaker 13: should the crisis get worse. We remain in Phase one, 2087 01:36:48,572 --> 01:36:52,293 Speaker 13: meaning fuels available across the country. 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Now back to Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. 2103 01:37:49,612 --> 01:37:54,173 Speaker 1: The Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of 2104 01:37:54,532 --> 01:37:54,972 Speaker 1: the Week. 2105 01:37:55,412 --> 01:37:59,012 Speaker 8: Ladies and gentlemen, It's time once again for our seven 2106 01:37:59,093 --> 01:38:01,572 Speaker 8: daily celebration of Kerka's Kiweeds. 2107 01:38:02,013 --> 01:38:03,532 Speaker 6: Yes it's been Matt. 2108 01:38:03,412 --> 01:38:07,972 Speaker 8: Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons New Zealander of the Week, 2109 01:38:08,452 --> 01:38:12,652 Speaker 8: and as always, three greats shall be equally honored. 2110 01:38:13,372 --> 01:38:15,452 Speaker 3: So let's stop pissing around and get stuck in. 2111 01:38:16,093 --> 01:38:19,492 Speaker 2: Here are our new Zealanders of the weed. 2112 01:38:21,532 --> 01:38:24,492 Speaker 8: There is a powerful economic engine in our great country's 2113 01:38:24,572 --> 01:38:27,333 Speaker 8: fastest growing and fourth largest city, and it just got 2114 01:38:27,612 --> 01:38:30,412 Speaker 8: two hundred and fifty meters longer. Yep, the White Cator 2115 01:38:30,492 --> 01:38:32,652 Speaker 8: is getting a runway extend or long enough for a 2116 01:38:32,732 --> 01:38:36,492 Speaker 8: fat Boeing seven eight seven Dreamliner and a girthy airbus 2117 01:38:36,893 --> 01:38:38,093 Speaker 8: a three point thirty. 2118 01:38:38,053 --> 01:38:38,612 Speaker 6: S to land. 2119 01:38:38,973 --> 01:38:41,253 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Well, more money and movement in 2120 01:38:41,293 --> 01:38:42,092 Speaker 2: the Land of Milk. 2121 01:38:42,532 --> 01:38:45,172 Speaker 8: So while most of Auckland probably doesn't even know Hamilton 2122 01:38:45,213 --> 01:38:47,973 Speaker 8: has an airport, when it's Mankey and Mongoy, they may 2123 01:38:48,093 --> 01:38:52,612 Speaker 8: just find themselves touching down in chiefs mana Country Hamilton Airport. 2124 01:38:52,692 --> 01:38:54,253 Speaker 2: Congratulations on the extension. 2125 01:38:54,452 --> 01:38:56,012 Speaker 3: You are in New Zealander aquid week. 2126 01:39:00,372 --> 01:39:01,892 Speaker 6: You have a called the flu. 2127 01:39:02,532 --> 01:39:06,493 Speaker 3: You should be back in bed, but you have to soldier. 2128 01:39:08,372 --> 01:39:11,572 Speaker 8: The change of season means colds, flus, coughs, lurgies, and 2129 01:39:11,732 --> 01:39:14,372 Speaker 8: lesser illnesses like COVID. It's also at the time of 2130 01:39:14,492 --> 01:39:16,452 Speaker 8: year when some at the first sign of a sniffle 2131 01:39:16,492 --> 01:39:20,093 Speaker 8: stant home crying into their pillows. But powerful Kiwis on 2132 01:39:20,173 --> 01:39:24,333 Speaker 8: the other hand, John Key, Bandam, but they're back and 2133 01:39:24,412 --> 01:39:27,053 Speaker 8: better than ever, so you can get about your business. 2134 01:39:26,812 --> 01:39:27,532 Speaker 6: If you soldier. 2135 01:39:27,532 --> 01:39:31,412 Speaker 8: Wrong with Seymour's sensational sickness slaying over the counter pseudo 2136 01:39:31,452 --> 01:39:34,133 Speaker 8: ever dream, you are a New Zealander of the Week. 2137 01:39:39,133 --> 01:39:42,612 Speaker 8: The term battle hardened is bandied about a bit these days, 2138 01:39:42,973 --> 01:39:45,612 Speaker 8: but no one fits the banner better than All Blacks 2139 01:39:45,893 --> 01:39:50,212 Speaker 8: senior assistant coach and Taranaki Bull's legend Neil Barnes. 2140 01:39:50,372 --> 01:39:53,612 Speaker 2: In recent years rugby union communication from the top has 2141 01:39:53,652 --> 01:39:54,572 Speaker 2: been bogged down. 2142 01:39:54,492 --> 01:39:58,572 Speaker 8: And corporate speak and meek ass covering not Barnsey. How 2143 01:39:58,652 --> 01:40:01,892 Speaker 8: good to hear some no nonsense, rural home truths from 2144 01:40:01,933 --> 01:40:02,932 Speaker 8: the new coaching team. 2145 01:40:03,652 --> 01:40:06,173 Speaker 14: I'm probably as much passionate with a farmer as I 2146 01:40:06,253 --> 01:40:08,452 Speaker 14: am in rugby Rugby. To me something that I do, 2147 01:40:08,652 --> 01:40:11,652 Speaker 14: you must spare time. I love years probably a little 2148 01:40:11,652 --> 01:40:13,892 Speaker 14: more serious now, and I don't think it would matter 2149 01:40:14,013 --> 01:40:16,012 Speaker 14: whether I was playing snakes the ladders on the board 2150 01:40:16,053 --> 01:40:18,652 Speaker 14: an international game. I've got the same shit about me 2151 01:40:18,732 --> 01:40:20,572 Speaker 14: that I want to win, and I expect every player 2152 01:40:20,652 --> 01:40:23,293 Speaker 14: and our team to have the same level of competitiveness 2153 01:40:23,372 --> 01:40:25,532 Speaker 14: that we're there to get results and we're there to 2154 01:40:25,572 --> 01:40:27,452 Speaker 14: make our country proud. We're going to lose the odd 2155 01:40:27,452 --> 01:40:27,852 Speaker 14: one term. 2156 01:40:28,013 --> 01:40:28,293 Speaker 2: Sorry. 2157 01:40:28,492 --> 01:40:30,532 Speaker 14: The good thing about this country is people will let 2158 01:40:30,612 --> 01:40:31,933 Speaker 14: us know because they're passionate about it. 2159 01:40:32,093 --> 01:40:33,732 Speaker 2: I'd be more worried if the place was silent. 2160 01:40:33,933 --> 01:40:35,532 Speaker 14: We need some alignment at the moment. We need the 2161 01:40:35,572 --> 01:40:37,772 Speaker 14: whole country. You work them in the same direction. If 2162 01:40:37,812 --> 01:40:39,812 Speaker 14: you work hard for a long time, good things will happen. 2163 01:40:39,893 --> 01:40:42,093 Speaker 14: Getting the basics right first, before you go me other 2164 01:40:42,133 --> 01:40:42,652 Speaker 14: pretty ship. 2165 01:40:43,133 --> 01:40:44,653 Speaker 3: Ah Men Brother. 2166 01:40:44,973 --> 01:40:48,972 Speaker 8: Senior Assistant All Blacks Coach Neil Barnsy Barnes, you are 2167 01:40:49,452 --> 01:40:51,213 Speaker 8: a New Zealander of the week. 2168 01:40:51,372 --> 01:40:53,172 Speaker 3: Congratulations to all our winners. 2169 01:40:53,612 --> 01:40:55,812 Speaker 2: Give them a taste of Kiwi and take it away. 2170 01:40:56,412 --> 01:40:57,612 Speaker 3: Sir Ali Morrison. 2171 01:41:31,013 --> 01:41:32,892 Speaker 2: Were there to get results and we're there to make 2172 01:41:32,933 --> 01:41:33,492 Speaker 2: a country for. 2173 01:41:40,013 --> 01:41:41,572 Speaker 14: Your country. Nature at the moment. 2174 01:41:44,253 --> 01:41:50,333 Speaker 6: Right, Getting the basic right first before you gave me 2175 01:41:50,333 --> 01:42:01,612 Speaker 6: any other pretty show. And Tyler Adams. 2176 01:42:03,772 --> 01:42:06,892 Speaker 1: With you as your afternoon rolls on metath and Tyler 2177 01:42:06,973 --> 01:42:08,053 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons. 2178 01:42:08,572 --> 01:42:08,852 Speaker 6: Gooda. 2179 01:42:09,013 --> 01:42:10,052 Speaker 1: Can you crack the code? 2180 01:42:10,093 --> 01:42:11,932 Speaker 6: Please go to codes every Day. 2181 01:42:11,893 --> 01:42:14,692 Speaker 3: News Talks that'd be b so Tomorrow, one of New 2182 01:42:14,772 --> 01:42:18,652 Speaker 3: Zealand's most scenic and accessible trail events gets underway in 2183 01:42:18,973 --> 01:42:21,812 Speaker 3: rot with the key We Walk and Run series, kicking 2184 01:42:21,853 --> 01:42:24,572 Speaker 3: off a ten stop tour around the country. It comes 2185 01:42:24,612 --> 01:42:27,572 Speaker 3: as more Keywi's look to explore the outdoors, but many 2186 01:42:27,652 --> 01:42:30,213 Speaker 3: are still held back by concerns around safety or simply 2187 01:42:30,293 --> 01:42:32,812 Speaker 3: not knowing where to start. One person helping lead the 2188 01:42:32,933 --> 01:42:36,812 Speaker 3: change at the charge, rather as netball legend Irene van Dyke, 2189 01:42:36,853 --> 01:42:39,053 Speaker 3: who is an ambassador for the series and will be 2190 01:42:39,133 --> 01:42:42,452 Speaker 3: taking part in multiple events this year, and she joins 2191 01:42:42,532 --> 01:42:44,532 Speaker 3: us now. Irene, A very good afternoon to you. 2192 01:42:45,492 --> 01:42:48,572 Speaker 20: Oh good afternoon, Thailand, Matt. Nice to join you. 2193 01:42:48,652 --> 01:42:49,652 Speaker 3: Guys, so Irene. 2194 01:42:49,692 --> 01:42:51,772 Speaker 2: For people who have never heard of the Key We 2195 01:42:51,933 --> 01:42:55,132 Speaker 2: Walk and Run series, what makes it different from other events? 2196 01:42:56,612 --> 01:42:58,812 Speaker 20: I think the thing that stands out for me around 2197 01:42:59,013 --> 01:43:03,013 Speaker 20: all this trail running it is how accessible it is 2198 01:43:03,452 --> 01:43:08,812 Speaker 20: and people with all sorts of sickness regime can go 2199 01:43:08,973 --> 01:43:12,812 Speaker 20: and you can walk, you can run. Everyone is there 2200 01:43:12,933 --> 01:43:14,972 Speaker 20: to just have a great time. You know, you get 2201 01:43:15,013 --> 01:43:17,053 Speaker 20: the runners who want to hit vpbe but then you 2202 01:43:17,173 --> 01:43:20,093 Speaker 20: always also get the walkers who really just want to 2203 01:43:20,333 --> 01:43:24,892 Speaker 20: enjoy the scenery and the tracks, and the tracks are 2204 01:43:25,013 --> 01:43:27,572 Speaker 20: really well marked out, so for those who think that 2205 01:43:27,652 --> 01:43:30,732 Speaker 20: they're going to get lost, there's no way possible that 2206 01:43:30,853 --> 01:43:33,572 Speaker 20: you'll be able to get lost because these all the people. 2207 01:43:33,492 --> 01:43:34,732 Speaker 3: Going in the same direction. 2208 01:43:34,973 --> 01:43:38,012 Speaker 20: So it is honestly, it is just such a fun 2209 01:43:38,253 --> 01:43:42,333 Speaker 20: environment and you know, there's no better way than to 2210 01:43:42,532 --> 01:43:44,533 Speaker 20: explore New Zealand than actually. 2211 01:43:44,452 --> 01:43:47,572 Speaker 3: Walk a trail or run a trail. That's a brilliant pitch. 2212 01:43:47,893 --> 01:43:50,213 Speaker 3: So what goes through you to trail running? 2213 01:43:50,333 --> 01:43:50,412 Speaker 12: All? 2214 01:43:50,492 --> 01:43:50,652 Speaker 9: Right? 2215 01:43:53,293 --> 01:43:56,532 Speaker 20: After my neckball career, you know, you get to that 2216 01:43:56,652 --> 01:43:59,333 Speaker 20: point where you're like, what now, we to now? 2217 01:43:59,492 --> 01:44:01,293 Speaker 9: And how am I going to say it? 2218 01:44:01,572 --> 01:44:05,492 Speaker 20: Obviously going to the gym is a great thing, but 2219 01:44:05,732 --> 01:44:07,253 Speaker 20: you know, you get to that point where you're like, 2220 01:44:07,412 --> 01:44:08,732 Speaker 20: I just really need. 2221 01:44:08,692 --> 01:44:09,972 Speaker 22: To get out and have fun. 2222 01:44:10,652 --> 01:44:13,933 Speaker 20: And I love the fact that you can do it 2223 01:44:13,973 --> 01:44:17,812 Speaker 20: at your own pace and that you're outdoors. I love 2224 01:44:17,893 --> 01:44:20,972 Speaker 20: the outdoors and I really started liking hiking as well. 2225 01:44:21,133 --> 01:44:24,092 Speaker 20: So going for a slow run, you can walk whenever 2226 01:44:24,173 --> 01:44:25,933 Speaker 20: you want to walk. You don't have to end up 2227 01:44:25,973 --> 01:44:29,692 Speaker 20: in the fetal position like when you play high performance sports. 2228 01:44:30,652 --> 01:44:32,772 Speaker 3: Yes, that was definitely the draw card. 2229 01:44:32,853 --> 01:44:34,452 Speaker 20: That you can do it at your own pace. 2230 01:44:34,933 --> 01:44:37,932 Speaker 3: That's certainly a big tick there. So you are running 2231 01:44:37,973 --> 01:44:40,892 Speaker 3: six of the ten events yourself. What excites you most 2232 01:44:40,933 --> 01:44:43,253 Speaker 3: about traveling around the country for this great event? 2233 01:44:44,532 --> 01:44:47,812 Speaker 20: You know, this whole thing started during COVID when people 2234 01:44:47,973 --> 01:44:51,133 Speaker 20: realize that we can't travel overseas, so we need to 2235 01:44:51,173 --> 01:44:54,173 Speaker 20: make the most of our own backyard, and it is 2236 01:44:54,253 --> 01:44:57,612 Speaker 20: a fabulous way to get to know the country and 2237 01:44:57,893 --> 01:45:00,492 Speaker 20: to get to know what trails and tracks they are 2238 01:45:00,692 --> 01:45:04,013 Speaker 20: out there, and obviously you get to meet some incredible 2239 01:45:04,133 --> 01:45:07,772 Speaker 20: people and you build relationships, and yes, it is just 2240 01:45:07,893 --> 01:45:11,732 Speaker 20: a great way to get to see our beautiful country 2241 01:45:11,853 --> 01:45:14,213 Speaker 20: and hang out with people that have the same goals 2242 01:45:14,372 --> 01:45:16,412 Speaker 20: or have the same passion than you. 2243 01:45:16,893 --> 01:45:20,093 Speaker 2: Now, for someone sitting on the fence right now, what 2244 01:45:20,173 --> 01:45:22,812 Speaker 2: would you say to get them to give it a go. 2245 01:45:23,732 --> 01:45:26,013 Speaker 20: There are a lot of people that are in the 2246 01:45:26,133 --> 01:45:29,532 Speaker 20: same boat as you, though the biggest step is stepping 2247 01:45:29,692 --> 01:45:34,412 Speaker 20: outside and doing the registration and coming to an event 2248 01:45:34,652 --> 01:45:38,572 Speaker 20: like this. Honestly, you will be blown away and you 2249 01:45:38,612 --> 01:45:41,972 Speaker 20: would love every single minute. I am doing a fun 2250 01:45:42,093 --> 01:45:46,093 Speaker 20: warm up so entertainment for Africa before you start, and 2251 01:45:46,772 --> 01:45:48,812 Speaker 20: you will absolutely love every minute of it. 2252 01:45:49,452 --> 01:45:51,732 Speaker 3: Has there a range of different trails, you know, is 2253 01:45:51,772 --> 01:45:54,772 Speaker 3: there something there for the hardcore people who are into 2254 01:45:54,812 --> 01:45:57,253 Speaker 3: their trail running. Obviously something there for the beginners and 2255 01:45:57,333 --> 01:45:58,293 Speaker 3: maybe something in the middle. 2256 01:45:59,253 --> 01:46:04,973 Speaker 20: Yes, these different track or obviously different courses, and the 2257 01:46:05,133 --> 01:46:09,333 Speaker 20: courses are ranging from one point five k to sixteen 2258 01:46:09,372 --> 01:46:12,692 Speaker 20: point five k. We've got one in Auckland which is 2259 01:46:12,732 --> 01:46:15,293 Speaker 20: a walgan wag where you mean that means you can 2260 01:46:15,372 --> 01:46:19,492 Speaker 20: bring your dog and you can bring the family as well. 2261 01:46:19,692 --> 01:46:24,612 Speaker 20: So yes, there's obviously different distances, but also you can 2262 01:46:24,732 --> 01:46:28,253 Speaker 20: do the run as in a runner or you can 2263 01:46:28,452 --> 01:46:31,692 Speaker 20: just walk. So these different distances, and you know all 2264 01:46:31,772 --> 01:46:35,613 Speaker 20: the courses are really marked out well and these marshals, 2265 01:46:35,732 --> 01:46:40,133 Speaker 20: these eight stations, these lollly stations and cookie stations and 2266 01:46:40,293 --> 01:46:44,173 Speaker 20: water stations. It is absolutely incredible. You love a kai 2267 01:46:44,293 --> 01:46:44,812 Speaker 20: on a walk? 2268 01:46:45,173 --> 01:46:48,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, you'll have a walk that sounds amazing, that 2269 01:46:48,772 --> 01:46:51,253 Speaker 3: is that's a good enticement for a lot of people listening. 2270 01:46:51,692 --> 01:46:54,333 Speaker 3: So for someone like me, Irene, and it's fair to 2271 01:46:54,372 --> 01:46:56,852 Speaker 3: say I'm not much of a runner and I haven't 2272 01:46:56,893 --> 01:46:59,093 Speaker 3: done it for some time and my fitness level is 2273 01:46:59,133 --> 01:47:00,732 Speaker 3: a bitter fee, there's still something for. 2274 01:47:00,812 --> 01:47:05,093 Speaker 20: Me one hundred percent. There's something for everyone along the way. 2275 01:47:05,293 --> 01:47:07,692 Speaker 23: And you know, you walk and you hang out. 2276 01:47:07,652 --> 01:47:10,333 Speaker 20: With people and you start talking and as soon as 2277 01:47:10,372 --> 01:47:13,572 Speaker 20: you have someone that you yarn to the case just 2278 01:47:13,732 --> 01:47:16,973 Speaker 20: knock off like you won't believe. And yes, it is 2279 01:47:17,173 --> 01:47:19,213 Speaker 20: wonderful to get out there and enjoy it. 2280 01:47:20,173 --> 01:47:22,532 Speaker 3: Do you have a favorite trail or location in New 2281 01:47:22,612 --> 01:47:23,973 Speaker 3: Zealand that you keep going back to. 2282 01:47:25,333 --> 01:47:28,853 Speaker 20: Well, obviously the one in Hawk's Bay is pretty incredible, 2283 01:47:28,933 --> 01:47:32,093 Speaker 20: but you know what, there's two and rot the Redwoods 2284 01:47:32,133 --> 01:47:37,213 Speaker 20: one and the Lake Ticket Tapu one and then obviously 2285 01:47:37,612 --> 01:47:41,492 Speaker 20: the tur Ontopu one will be amazing. And then oh 2286 01:47:42,173 --> 01:47:44,892 Speaker 20: all of them have something incredible. There's a new one 2287 01:47:45,053 --> 01:47:47,372 Speaker 20: this year christ shirt, so all the people in christ 2288 01:47:47,492 --> 01:47:51,173 Speaker 20: Hits needs to come and hang out with us. And yes, 2289 01:47:51,532 --> 01:47:54,053 Speaker 20: these total is beautiful as well. 2290 01:47:54,412 --> 01:47:55,892 Speaker 6: All of them are really cool. 2291 01:47:56,053 --> 01:47:59,812 Speaker 3: You're a brilliant ambassador, Irene. So for those hitting along 2292 01:47:59,893 --> 01:48:03,133 Speaker 3: tomorrow or the thinking about one of the other ten 2293 01:48:03,412 --> 01:48:06,293 Speaker 3: Kiwi walk run series around the country, what can they 2294 01:48:06,333 --> 01:48:08,253 Speaker 3: expect when they turn up, they buy the ticket, they 2295 01:48:08,412 --> 01:48:10,812 Speaker 3: get organized, they might do a bit of fitness, but 2296 01:48:10,853 --> 01:48:11,892 Speaker 3: what does it look like on the day? 2297 01:48:12,812 --> 01:48:15,852 Speaker 20: Ah, you rock up, you park your car, or you 2298 01:48:15,973 --> 01:48:18,812 Speaker 20: get people to drop you off their marquee teams and 2299 01:48:19,612 --> 01:48:23,372 Speaker 20: with all the sponsors products so you get lollies and 2300 01:48:23,893 --> 01:48:28,532 Speaker 20: coconut water biscuits and you know it's it's just a 2301 01:48:28,893 --> 01:48:32,213 Speaker 20: BEASTI activity. You line up at the starting line or 2302 01:48:32,333 --> 01:48:34,852 Speaker 20: you you hang out first and then I do a 2303 01:48:34,933 --> 01:48:37,973 Speaker 20: fun warm up. Don't worry the warm up is very 2304 01:48:38,093 --> 01:48:40,772 Speaker 20: stress free. It's more laugh than a warm up. And 2305 01:48:40,973 --> 01:48:44,013 Speaker 20: then they just get us to line up at the 2306 01:48:44,093 --> 01:48:47,652 Speaker 20: starting line and they send off waves in the different 2307 01:48:47,732 --> 01:48:51,333 Speaker 20: distances that you're running, so you will be with the 2308 01:48:51,532 --> 01:48:54,572 Speaker 20: people that does the same distance issues, so you all 2309 01:48:54,772 --> 01:48:57,213 Speaker 20: go in the same direction and it is honestly you 2310 01:48:57,372 --> 01:49:00,852 Speaker 20: cannot get lost and if you if you are wary 2311 01:49:01,173 --> 01:49:04,652 Speaker 20: that you don't feel comfortable, there's always someone there to 2312 01:49:05,013 --> 01:49:07,532 Speaker 20: help you, encourage you and get you on your on 2313 01:49:07,612 --> 01:49:08,253 Speaker 20: the right place. 2314 01:49:08,652 --> 01:49:11,173 Speaker 3: That is brilliant Irene, thank you very much for having 2315 01:49:11,213 --> 01:49:13,652 Speaker 3: a chat with us. Go well tomorrow. It's a wonderful 2316 01:49:13,652 --> 01:49:15,812 Speaker 3: are event and maybe we'll see you at one of 2317 01:49:15,853 --> 01:49:18,133 Speaker 3: the ten events around the country this year. 2318 01:49:19,053 --> 01:49:22,132 Speaker 20: Oh fantastic. Thanks Tharlan Matten. Thanks for your support. 2319 01:49:22,213 --> 01:49:23,333 Speaker 24: We really appreciate it. 2320 01:49:23,572 --> 01:49:26,692 Speaker 3: Brilliant. That is Irene Van Dyke, ambassador for the Key 2321 01:49:26,772 --> 01:49:29,293 Speaker 3: We Walk Run series. If you want to find out more, 2322 01:49:29,572 --> 01:49:33,013 Speaker 3: just go to Kiwi walkerun dot co dot in z. 2323 01:49:33,293 --> 01:49:35,772 Speaker 3: It's a fantastic event. We'll be back very shortly. You're 2324 01:49:35,812 --> 01:49:37,612 Speaker 3: listening to New Stalks EDB the. 2325 01:49:37,772 --> 01:49:41,652 Speaker 1: Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything 2326 01:49:41,732 --> 01:49:42,213 Speaker 1: in between. 2327 01:49:42,452 --> 01:49:46,133 Speaker 6: Matt Heath and Tayler Adams. Afternoons US TALKSB. 2328 01:49:47,253 --> 01:49:50,333 Speaker 2: News Talks EDB. It is ten to four, all right, 2329 01:49:50,973 --> 01:49:52,692 Speaker 2: thank you so much for listening. That brings us to 2330 01:49:52,772 --> 01:49:55,253 Speaker 2: the end of the show, doesn't. 2331 01:49:55,013 --> 01:49:57,772 Speaker 3: This, It certainly does. And we get so many great 2332 01:49:57,853 --> 01:50:00,372 Speaker 3: key we's given us a call that every Friday we 2333 01:50:00,612 --> 01:50:03,532 Speaker 3: pick a winner, a caller of the week, I should say. 2334 01:50:03,612 --> 01:50:06,772 Speaker 3: And on Wednesday we were talking about haggling with your dentist? 2335 01:50:06,933 --> 01:50:09,052 Speaker 3: Is it ever okay? When we got call from Chris 2336 01:50:09,532 --> 01:50:11,452 Speaker 3: who got a bit of nylon court in his gob 2337 01:50:11,532 --> 01:50:14,213 Speaker 3: while on his yacht, loosened a few of his teeth 2338 01:50:14,652 --> 01:50:16,612 Speaker 3: and then he tried to haggle with the dentist in 2339 01:50:16,692 --> 01:50:17,532 Speaker 3: a very different way. 2340 01:50:17,812 --> 01:50:19,972 Speaker 9: Rang a dentist yesterday to see if I could get 2341 01:50:20,053 --> 01:50:22,852 Speaker 9: them removed. And she said to me, because there's two 2342 01:50:23,093 --> 01:50:26,012 Speaker 9: the two slops that are loose and they're flopping around, 2343 01:50:26,732 --> 01:50:29,532 Speaker 9: and she goes, there'll be three hundred and fifty dollars 2344 01:50:29,612 --> 01:50:32,492 Speaker 9: each to get removed. And I thought, I'm not paying 2345 01:50:32,532 --> 01:50:34,852 Speaker 9: your six hundred bucks. I said, well, what about if 2346 01:50:34,853 --> 01:50:36,452 Speaker 9: I come in and you give me a jab in 2347 01:50:36,492 --> 01:50:38,612 Speaker 9: the mouth so it's not painful when I pull him out? 2348 01:50:38,652 --> 01:50:41,572 Speaker 9: With a pair of blows enough and she goes, no, 2349 01:50:41,612 --> 01:50:42,452 Speaker 9: I'm not doing that either. 2350 01:50:43,253 --> 01:50:45,093 Speaker 2: You're not going to get a situation where you could 2351 01:50:45,213 --> 01:50:47,772 Speaker 2: go in and they say, oh well, we'll take care 2352 01:50:47,812 --> 01:50:49,812 Speaker 2: of the anesthetic, but you go for your life with 2353 01:50:49,893 --> 01:50:50,492 Speaker 2: your players. 2354 01:50:52,253 --> 01:50:54,372 Speaker 3: Very good, I mean it was worth a shot. Chris. 2355 01:50:54,612 --> 01:50:57,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, what a great call. Speaking of great, the 2356 01:50:57,253 --> 01:50:59,372 Speaker 2: great powerful, Heather to see Allen is up next and 2357 01:50:59,532 --> 01:51:03,612 Speaker 2: she's talking to a member of the Cathedral rebuild board 2358 01:51:03,652 --> 01:51:06,972 Speaker 2: on the potential for an extra fifteen million in taxpayer funds. 2359 01:51:07,013 --> 01:51:07,892 Speaker 2: What do you think of that? Tyler? 2360 01:51:08,612 --> 01:51:10,812 Speaker 3: Wow, man, that's a story that just never ends. Just 2361 01:51:10,893 --> 01:51:12,253 Speaker 3: bowl it, man, just bowl it. 2362 01:51:12,612 --> 01:51:15,612 Speaker 2: But right now Tyler, Yeah, I'm my good friend. Why 2363 01:51:15,812 --> 01:51:16,732 Speaker 2: am I playing this song? 2364 01:51:17,213 --> 01:51:17,372 Speaker 9: Well? 2365 01:51:17,933 --> 01:51:22,412 Speaker 3: Here we go? Ah what a tune? Rehab by Amy 2366 01:51:22,692 --> 01:51:26,812 Speaker 3: Winehouse is this because I usual, you don't know why 2367 01:51:26,853 --> 01:51:27,293 Speaker 3: you're playing this. 2368 01:51:27,412 --> 01:51:31,972 Speaker 2: Watch because Meta are being done in a Californian court 2369 01:51:32,093 --> 01:51:35,933 Speaker 2: for purposely making their platforms addictive. 2370 01:51:36,372 --> 01:51:38,813 Speaker 3: Are very good and people are saying. 2371 01:51:39,173 --> 01:51:42,892 Speaker 2: There's no rehab for social media. So they just paid 2372 01:51:42,933 --> 01:51:47,492 Speaker 2: out six million dollars. But you know, Meta, they've got 2373 01:51:47,572 --> 01:51:50,572 Speaker 2: all kinds of lawyers. So we'll watch the space still be. 2374 01:51:50,652 --> 01:51:52,013 Speaker 2: Are we an appeal. 2375 01:51:51,933 --> 01:51:53,972 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see where that one goes. But I imagine 2376 01:51:53,973 --> 01:51:55,652 Speaker 3: they'll keep that in court for some time. 2377 01:51:56,973 --> 01:52:00,172 Speaker 2: Yeah, alright then. 2378 01:52:01,853 --> 01:52:03,253 Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much. 2379 01:52:03,492 --> 01:52:07,013 Speaker 2: She's twenty years old. She started using social media when 2380 01:52:07,053 --> 01:52:11,692 Speaker 2: she was six. It became a hours a day addiction. 2381 01:52:12,293 --> 01:52:15,013 Speaker 2: Spending time on Instagram as well as YouTube led to 2382 01:52:15,053 --> 01:52:18,333 Speaker 2: feelings of body dysmorphia and thoughts of self harm. But 2383 01:52:18,452 --> 01:52:22,053 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the question here is why is 2384 01:52:22,133 --> 01:52:24,612 Speaker 2: she on social media when she's six years old? And 2385 01:52:25,173 --> 01:52:27,412 Speaker 2: is that Zuckerbirb's fault that her parents are letting her 2386 01:52:27,452 --> 01:52:28,612 Speaker 2: on insta at six years old? 2387 01:52:28,732 --> 01:52:30,692 Speaker 3: And I'm sure the six million dollars she's going to 2388 01:52:30,732 --> 01:52:33,333 Speaker 3: get from that particular court case, will you know? There 2389 01:52:33,412 --> 01:52:35,812 Speaker 3: goes a long way to alleviate mental distress, doesn't it. 2390 01:52:37,612 --> 01:52:39,452 Speaker 2: Well yeah, six million dollars. 2391 01:52:40,812 --> 01:52:41,012 Speaker 9: Yeah. 2392 01:52:41,933 --> 01:52:45,972 Speaker 2: So people are saying that this is it's the new tobacco. 2393 01:52:46,532 --> 01:52:50,452 Speaker 3: Yeah, the new big tobacco. But right, thank you very much. 2394 01:52:51,732 --> 01:52:55,812 Speaker 2: We'll be back Monday afternoon from midday until then, give 2395 01:52:55,893 --> 01:52:56,973 Speaker 2: him a taste a kiwi from us? 2396 01:52:57,133 --> 01:52:57,812 Speaker 3: Well there. 2397 01:53:01,933 --> 01:53:02,772 Speaker 22: No, no. 2398 01:53:06,372 --> 01:53:08,892 Speaker 6: From where are come lose? 2399 01:53:09,213 --> 01:53:09,253 Speaker 24: No? 2400 01:53:09,893 --> 01:53:15,773 Speaker 2: No, I don't never want to break again. 2401 01:53:18,372 --> 01:53:19,333 Speaker 23: I don't. 2402 01:53:21,772 --> 01:53:32,412 Speaker 12: Leave, friend, I'm not gonna send tase have every we 2403 01:53:32,812 --> 01:53:40,572 Speaker 12: want things off from the man. And it's not just 2404 01:53:40,853 --> 01:53:41,692 Speaker 12: my pride. 2405 01:53:44,772 --> 01:53:49,213 Speaker 6: Yes, just tell he teas mad. 2406 01:53:51,013 --> 01:53:53,333 Speaker 3: He's trying to baby, don't go be there. 2407 01:53:53,492 --> 01:53:59,012 Speaker 2: But I'll say no, no, yes, I mean you blad 2408 01:53:59,133 --> 01:53:59,572 Speaker 2: no where. 2409 01:53:59,772 --> 01:54:05,612 Speaker 6: I'm not mad your nor nor loop. I gain't downe 2410 01:54:05,732 --> 01:54:10,692 Speaker 6: the town. And if but daddy, if. 2411 01:54:16,933 --> 01:54:20,972 Speaker 27: News talk said be extra, I quite often hear people 2412 01:54:21,013 --> 01:54:23,612 Speaker 27: say how much New Zealanders punch above their weight, particularly 2413 01:54:23,652 --> 01:54:26,973 Speaker 27: in the creative industries, and I just don't like that expression. 2414 01:54:27,452 --> 01:54:30,652 Speaker 27: It means performing or achieving results better than expected beyond 2415 01:54:30,772 --> 01:54:34,293 Speaker 27: one's ability, skill and experience, and this is absolutely not 2416 01:54:34,613 --> 01:54:38,533 Speaker 27: the case. Regardless of our nation size and where we live. 2417 01:54:39,013 --> 01:54:41,293 Speaker 27: Helways have the ability, skill and experience to be at 2418 01:54:41,293 --> 01:54:43,693 Speaker 27: the top of whatever game they're in if they're prepared to. 2419 01:54:43,733 --> 01:54:44,133 Speaker 3: Work for it. 2420 01:54:44,893 --> 01:54:46,933 Speaker 27: It is easy to look at what's going on in 2421 01:54:47,013 --> 01:54:49,013 Speaker 27: the world and say there are more important things to 2422 01:54:49,053 --> 01:54:52,533 Speaker 27: be doing and thinking about the oscars, but hey, throughout 2423 01:54:52,533 --> 01:54:55,133 Speaker 27: the awards almost one hundred year history, there will always 2424 01:54:55,173 --> 01:54:57,653 Speaker 27: been more important things to think about. So if you 2425 01:54:57,772 --> 01:55:00,772 Speaker 27: happen to have access to Disney Plus tomorrow set yourself 2426 01:55:00,853 --> 01:55:03,052 Speaker 27: up in front of a screen, take pleasure and people 2427 01:55:03,213 --> 01:55:07,972 Speaker 27: doing well. Enjoy the distraction and celebration of this marvelous 2428 01:55:08,053 --> 01:55:12,253 Speaker 27: app form. 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