WEBVTT - The Resident Builder podcast: September 29, 2024 0:00:06.855 --> 0:00:10.055 You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter 0:00:10.135 --> 0:00:12.055 wolf Camp from news Talks at Bay. 0:00:18.815 --> 0:00:21.575 The house is a hole even when it's. 0:00:21.535 --> 0:00:26.215 Darns, even when the grass is overgrown in. 0:00:26.215 --> 0:00:29.655 The yard, and even when. 0:00:29.495 --> 0:00:33.735 The dog is too old to bar, and when you're 0:00:33.775 --> 0:00:39.775 sitting at the table trying not to start scissor home, 0:00:40.895 --> 0:00:46.535 even when weave a band gone, even when you're there alone. 0:00:54.335 --> 0:01:02.695 A house is a hole, even when those goes, Even 0:01:02.775 --> 0:01:06.135 when you got around from the world you love your most. 0:01:07.575 --> 0:01:10.695 Streamed pans be an inunder. 0:01:12.695 --> 0:01:24.135 Locals when these even when wilbra ben, even when you're 0:01:24.575 --> 0:01:25.255 very lone. 0:01:34.455 --> 0:01:36.375 Well, a very good morning, and welcome along to the 0:01:36.455 --> 0:01:39.335 Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me picked off Camp 0:01:39.455 --> 0:01:42.775 on this the first day of daylight saving. So yes, 0:01:42.895 --> 0:01:47.415 the clocks did go forward. Sorry, I'm laughing, because we 0:01:47.535 --> 0:01:50.375 do have in the studio, for all of the wonderful technology, 0:01:50.815 --> 0:01:53.935 a good old fashioned analog clock that hangs on the wall. 0:01:54.215 --> 0:01:56.455 And I guess for the last ten years or so, 0:01:56.575 --> 0:01:59.495 since I've been coming in here early on a Sunday morning, 0:01:59.615 --> 0:02:02.735 it seems to have become my job to stand on 0:02:02.815 --> 0:02:05.375 a chair which is an office chair, in which case 0:02:05.415 --> 0:02:08.815 it rotates right. And if you've ever watched YouTube videos 0:02:08.855 --> 0:02:11.455 of people doing silly things, it's generally involves them standing 0:02:11.495 --> 0:02:14.455 on an office chair, reaching up, getting something down, in 0:02:14.495 --> 0:02:17.495 this case of clock, changing the setting, and then putting 0:02:17.535 --> 0:02:21.375 it back up again. Thus far, touchwood, I've never come 0:02:21.455 --> 0:02:25.935 to a sticky end doing that decidedly unsavory little task 0:02:26.015 --> 0:02:28.175 on a swivel chair. So I'll do that during the break. 0:02:28.375 --> 0:02:30.975 If i'm not back after the break, you'll know what's happened. Radio. 0:02:31.055 --> 0:02:33.575 Good morning, Welcome along to the show. I trust you've 0:02:33.615 --> 0:02:37.135 had a good week. And if there's a project that 0:02:37.295 --> 0:02:40.015 you need some help with, if there's a project that 0:02:40.135 --> 0:02:43.095 you're thinking about doing a bit of planning, you know 0:02:43.255 --> 0:02:46.815 daylight saving typically. We've had officially the first day of 0:02:46.855 --> 0:02:50.975 spring in the first twenty second of September. There equinoxes 0:02:51.055 --> 0:02:54.215 behind us. School holidays are here. The end of the 0:02:54.335 --> 0:02:58.695 year is looming. We got our son's end of year 0:02:58.815 --> 0:03:01.175 report the other day, emailed to us on Friday, and 0:03:01.255 --> 0:03:03.175 I'm like, hang on, now, he's going back to school 0:03:03.215 --> 0:03:05.815 next term. It's not over yet, but it is. The 0:03:05.935 --> 0:03:08.935 year is rushing to its climax at the end of 0:03:08.975 --> 0:03:10.815 the year. So if you've got a project that you're 0:03:10.855 --> 0:03:14.695 thinking about in maybe December January taking some leave, and 0:03:14.815 --> 0:03:16.255 you want to talk about that, you want to start 0:03:16.255 --> 0:03:18.495 doing a bit of planning, then we can discuss that. 0:03:18.615 --> 0:03:21.775 If you've had a couple of issues, let's say with 0:03:21.975 --> 0:03:25.775 product or with suppliers or with contractors, we can talk 0:03:25.815 --> 0:03:28.095 about that. I do want to do a little bit 0:03:28.215 --> 0:03:33.135 later on one of my terribly unreliable, completely unscientific polls, 0:03:33.815 --> 0:03:37.775 and it's around finding a trades person. We'll do that 0:03:37.855 --> 0:03:40.615 about six point thirty this morning through to maybe sort 0:03:40.695 --> 0:03:43.415 eight o'clock. At around seven thirty this morning, we've got 0:03:43.455 --> 0:03:46.855 Bryce mcdermmott, our painting expert from the good people at Razine, 0:03:47.215 --> 0:03:49.895 so from the Razine Color stores. Bryce is available, will 0:03:49.975 --> 0:03:53.735 take your text questions on any painting questions that you 0:03:53.895 --> 0:03:57.695 might have. And after the eight o'clock news, just briefly, 0:03:57.855 --> 0:04:00.015 we'll have a bit of a catch up with Hamish Firth. 0:04:00.375 --> 0:04:04.095 Hamish is a planner and he describes himself as just 0:04:04.175 --> 0:04:07.255 a good old fashioned planner and he's got a couple 0:04:07.295 --> 0:04:10.855 of things, some insights into proposed changes to the ROMA, 0:04:10.975 --> 0:04:15.375 the Resource Management Act. Certainly it was under review with 0:04:15.655 --> 0:04:19.855 the previous government with the Labor administration, Chris Bishop has 0:04:19.895 --> 0:04:22.415 really taken it on board, I think, and done quite 0:04:22.415 --> 0:04:24.815 a lot of work. So what's coming up? What might 0:04:25.175 --> 0:04:30.015 change when it comes to the Resource Management Act, particularly 0:04:30.055 --> 0:04:34.695 as it relates to construction right and you know, most 0:04:34.895 --> 0:04:36.695 building projects that I would have been a part of 0:04:36.775 --> 0:04:39.215 in the last ten years or so typically end up 0:04:39.255 --> 0:04:42.935 with a resource consent attached to the building consent, or 0:04:42.975 --> 0:04:44.735 in fact you need to get the resource consent before 0:04:44.735 --> 0:04:46.815 you can get the building consent. Is that going to 0:04:46.935 --> 0:04:50.055 change anyway? Hamish is an expert on this from the 0:04:50.095 --> 0:04:52.815 Mount Hobson Group and we'll be chatting with him after 0:04:52.935 --> 0:04:55.455 eight o'clock. Then, of course, as always, we'll jump into 0:04:55.495 --> 0:04:57.735 the garden with red claim passed. From around eight point 0:04:57.735 --> 0:05:01.055 thirty this morning. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty 0:05:01.295 --> 0:05:04.375 is the number to call. Texts are more than welcome 0:05:04.575 --> 0:05:07.855 nine to nine two or z BZB from your mobile phone. 0:05:08.135 --> 0:05:11.015 I've logged into my email because I remember my past word, 0:05:11.175 --> 0:05:14.815 so you can email me as well. A we apology 0:05:14.895 --> 0:05:17.575 on my part after we seem to have talked a 0:05:17.615 --> 0:05:20.335 lot about our boxes. If you're not into OL boxes, 0:05:20.415 --> 0:05:23.495 my apologies, but it seems like a large number of 0:05:23.615 --> 0:05:26.815 you are, and I've had a number of emails requesting 0:05:26.895 --> 0:05:29.055 the plans. I didn't get a chance to do that 0:05:29.175 --> 0:05:32.055 this week. I promise you this week to anyone that 0:05:32.175 --> 0:05:34.815 emailed me requesting plans, so effectively, I'm just taking the 0:05:34.855 --> 0:05:37.775 plans that I got from rud and forwarding them on 0:05:37.935 --> 0:05:40.535 to you. I promise, I promise I will do that 0:05:41.015 --> 0:05:43.455 this week. I'm not going to go ahead and promise 0:05:43.495 --> 0:05:46.735 that I'm going to make the barn Ol box. That 0:05:46.895 --> 0:05:49.655 might be a project for the following week. Anyway, that's 0:05:49.695 --> 0:05:51.895 my homework. I'm sordid, right, I know what I have 0:05:51.975 --> 0:05:54.735 to do. And again, if I sound a little bit croaky, 0:05:54.855 --> 0:05:57.535 it is because I am a little bit croaky. I've 0:05:57.575 --> 0:05:59.495 been on the road quite a bit over the last 0:05:59.615 --> 0:06:01.695 three weeks. In fact, I've had pretty much a trip 0:06:01.735 --> 0:06:04.895 every single weekend for the last three weeks. Came back 0:06:04.975 --> 0:06:08.895 from christ Chitch, Yes, had a fabulous time there. Went 0:06:09.015 --> 0:06:11.735 to Timaru for the first home and Garden show there 0:06:11.815 --> 0:06:15.935 since about twenty eighteen. My mates that run Jade Promotions 0:06:16.655 --> 0:06:20.735 re established the home and garden show. Well received. People 0:06:20.855 --> 0:06:23.255 really enjoyed getting out and looking at stuff. I went 0:06:23.295 --> 0:06:25.295 down to do a bit of a presentation, which is 0:06:25.335 --> 0:06:27.575 what I do, and I catch up with the exhibitors. 0:06:28.495 --> 0:06:31.295 So flew to christ Church on Friday morning. I don't 0:06:31.295 --> 0:06:33.375 know why I booked a six o'clock flight, but anyway, 0:06:34.015 --> 0:06:37.015 got to christ Church, shot out to the FOREMANTHS SIPs 0:06:37.095 --> 0:06:42.775 panel factory so Foemanths is a structurally insulated panel manufacturer 0:06:43.535 --> 0:06:47.775 and I've seen houses being built in SIPs panels by 0:06:47.935 --> 0:06:50.055 from pormants over the years, but I've never actually been 0:06:50.095 --> 0:06:51.895 to the factory. So I took the opportunity to shoot 0:06:51.935 --> 0:06:54.415 out there see Nick who runs the place, and have 0:06:54.535 --> 0:06:56.815 a wand around the factory just to see how SIPs 0:06:56.895 --> 0:06:59.495 panels are actually made, which was quite interesting. And then 0:06:59.535 --> 0:07:05.135 shot out via Methyn Geraldine. Fantastic little military museum in Geraldine, 0:07:05.375 --> 0:07:09.975 just on the main street and most of it's running 0:07:10.135 --> 0:07:12.615 right so it wasn't running at the time, but there's 0:07:12.695 --> 0:07:16.655 tanks and half tracks and scorpions and tractor units and 0:07:17.415 --> 0:07:20.975 jeeps and all sorts in there. It's a fabulous little museum. 0:07:21.015 --> 0:07:24.575 And Geraldine had a fantastic can I just say this 0:07:24.935 --> 0:07:28.415 had a fantastic PASTRAMI toasted sandwich and Methvin as well, 0:07:28.655 --> 0:07:31.495 a little cafe next to the gym Garatge. There you go, 0:07:31.695 --> 0:07:35.695 right in the middle of Methvin. Their beautiful coffee, beautiful 0:07:35.735 --> 0:07:38.535 toasted sandwich, snow in the hills in the background. What 0:07:38.655 --> 0:07:41.375 a gorgeous place. And then Timuru, which I really like. 0:07:42.055 --> 0:07:44.535 And then back via actually back via a beautiful garden. 0:07:44.575 --> 0:07:46.815 But I'll talk about that with Rud when he joins us. 0:07:46.855 --> 0:07:49.815 At eight thirty rdio, I know it's daylight saving. I 0:07:49.975 --> 0:07:52.215 know that most of you are probably still tucked up 0:07:52.255 --> 0:07:54.935 in bed because my clock tells me that it is 0:07:55.895 --> 0:07:59.135 sixteen minutes after five, which is what your body's probably 0:07:59.175 --> 0:08:01.975 telling you as well. But in fact it is actually 0:08:02.095 --> 0:08:05.295 fourteen sorry, fourteen minutes. See, even the clock is wrong, 0:08:05.575 --> 0:08:07.815 not just for the hour but for the minutes. It 0:08:07.975 --> 0:08:11.095 is the most unreliable clock in the world. Yet it 0:08:11.175 --> 0:08:15.135 hangs in the studio. Anyway, I'll get it sorted. 0:08:15.655 --> 0:08:15.815 Right. 0:08:16.295 --> 0:08:18.815 Lines are open. Number to call eight hundred eighty ten 0:08:18.935 --> 0:08:24.855 eighty All things building, construction projects, dilemmas, delights and dilemmas. 0:08:25.135 --> 0:08:27.415 We can talk all things building in construction. Call us 0:08:27.495 --> 0:08:30.975 right now, eight hundred eighty ten eighty right, Oh, good morning, 0:08:31.015 --> 0:08:33.255 welcome back to the program. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten 0:08:33.415 --> 0:08:35.655 eighty is the number to call. It's always going to 0:08:35.655 --> 0:08:40.335 be a bit slow on AH on a on a 0:08:40.855 --> 0:08:44.055 daylight saving morning, so the clocks have gone forward, and 0:08:44.615 --> 0:08:46.895 obviously people are sleeping in, which is fine. But if 0:08:46.935 --> 0:08:49.055 you're up in about, we're going to get busy later 0:08:49.135 --> 0:08:51.295 on the show. So now's a fantastic time to call. 0:08:51.495 --> 0:08:53.735 Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 0:08:54.175 --> 0:08:58.895 Apparently my adjusting of the clock was alerted overnight morning, 0:08:58.935 --> 0:09:01.615 Pete says the Texa. They said on the overnight talk 0:09:01.775 --> 0:09:04.295 it'd be Jim that you would be changing the clock, 0:09:04.455 --> 0:09:06.775 which is true. And I have done that, standing on 0:09:06.815 --> 0:09:12.495 the little swively chair, balanced like a Russian acrobat to 0:09:12.615 --> 0:09:16.135 be fair nimble on my feet. I am, and down 0:09:16.215 --> 0:09:18.775 came the clock just at the time, perfect right. Everything 0:09:18.895 --> 0:09:19.935 is in synchronicity. 0:09:20.015 --> 0:09:20.135 Now. 0:09:20.215 --> 0:09:22.015 Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, though, is that 0:09:22.255 --> 0:09:26.735 number to call? I wonder if I should tell my 0:09:26.815 --> 0:09:29.375 story now, I tell you what the survey that i'd 0:09:29.455 --> 0:09:31.415 like to do. And we've done a couple of these 0:09:31.575 --> 0:09:34.815 recently and they've been quite illuminating for me. And they 0:09:34.855 --> 0:09:39.135 are simple yes, no, right. So the moot that I 0:09:39.255 --> 0:09:41.535 want to put think back to your debating days at 0:09:41.575 --> 0:09:44.175 high school or at university. The moot that I want 0:09:44.255 --> 0:09:48.895 to put is, if you needed to find what I'm 0:09:48.975 --> 0:09:53.855 calling with respect your top three trades, right, the trades 0:09:53.935 --> 0:09:58.735 that you are most likely to need, a carpenter, an electrician, 0:09:58.935 --> 0:10:05.895 or a plumber. Would you have a carpenter, builder, electrician, 0:10:06.975 --> 0:10:14.095 or plumber's number in your phone? And what I'm trying 0:10:14.095 --> 0:10:17.015 to gauge is us having this discussion with someone the 0:10:17.055 --> 0:10:20.775 other day in terms of if you're not connected, let's say, 0:10:20.855 --> 0:10:24.455 with the trades, right, And I think more and more 0:10:24.655 --> 0:10:27.775 the way our society is structured, we're not necessarily as 0:10:28.295 --> 0:10:31.095 connected to trades and trades people as we might have 0:10:31.255 --> 0:10:34.295 been a few years ago. So if you needed to 0:10:35.375 --> 0:10:39.335 phone right now a plumber, please don't phone a plumber, 0:10:39.415 --> 0:10:42.535 an electrician, or a sparky. Would you have their numbers 0:10:42.895 --> 0:10:44.935 in your phone? It's just a yes or no, And 0:10:45.015 --> 0:10:46.735 I'll try and keep track of the text that went 0:10:46.935 --> 0:10:49.095 nuts last time we did it, which was great, oh, 0:10:49.175 --> 0:10:51.095 eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. So the moot is, 0:10:51.615 --> 0:10:58.135 do you have plumber, electrician, and carpenter Chippy in your phone? 0:10:58.335 --> 0:11:01.575 Could you call them right now from your contacts in 0:11:01.695 --> 0:11:04.495 your phone? And I'm trying to gauge just how connected 0:11:04.575 --> 0:11:07.415 we are to trades if looking for a trades person, 0:11:07.495 --> 0:11:10.735 how is it for most of you? How easy or 0:11:10.775 --> 0:11:13.175 how difficult is it? And I'm thinking if you've got 0:11:13.215 --> 0:11:15.175 their number in your phone, then it's going to be easy. 0:11:15.255 --> 0:11:17.015 If you don't, then you're going to have to go 0:11:17.255 --> 0:11:22.095 and look somebody up, or you know, phone a friend 0:11:22.295 --> 0:11:23.975 or something like that. So how do you find a trade? 0:11:24.575 --> 0:11:26.215 The text are already starting to come in. We're off 0:11:26.255 --> 0:11:28.335 to a flying start. Yes for the first one. So 0:11:28.775 --> 0:11:32.015 I will ride up a little bit of a telly 0:11:32.415 --> 0:11:34.255 and I'll see how I go. It does get pretty busy, 0:11:34.335 --> 0:11:37.295 but it'll be awesome. So do you have top three 0:11:37.335 --> 0:11:40.295 trades people? Plumber, Electrician, Chippy in your phone? Could you 0:11:40.375 --> 0:11:42.655 phone them right now? Not suggesting that you do because 0:11:42.695 --> 0:11:45.815 they're having a line as well. Kate, A very good morning. 0:11:46.575 --> 0:11:47.135 Morning, Pete. 0:11:47.135 --> 0:11:49.375 You didn't put me down as a yes, excellent, thank you. 0:11:50.095 --> 0:11:50.295 Yeah. 0:11:50.495 --> 0:11:53.815 Yeah, I feel as though I am giving you a 0:11:53.935 --> 0:11:56.895 running commentary on my project, because I'm sure i've been 0:11:56.935 --> 0:12:02.695 you every couple of weeks my nest problem. If I may, 0:12:03.615 --> 0:12:07.135 it's going really well and my trade e's are excellent. 0:12:08.095 --> 0:12:10.175 But I don't know if you'd be called that. 0:12:10.255 --> 0:12:14.695 I'm using a Kitset company, right, and they have they 0:12:14.735 --> 0:12:16.375 have been all right, the products have been all right, 0:12:16.455 --> 0:12:20.615 but they've been riding late or they've been the wrong products. 0:12:21.135 --> 0:12:28.015 This time they have accordated booth instead of what I wanted, 0:12:28.575 --> 0:12:33.215 which was a square profile, do you know what I mean? So, 0:12:33.495 --> 0:12:35.895 so this will be quick, But my question to you 0:12:36.375 --> 0:12:40.095 is how long does it take a roofing company to 0:12:40.335 --> 0:12:44.575 rerun a new profile? Because it should it should happen quickly. 0:12:44.735 --> 0:12:49.335 Otherwise my scaffoldings up are not the costing. So I 0:12:49.575 --> 0:12:51.935 just I've been trying to find out and this company 0:12:51.975 --> 0:12:54.575 won't actually tell me, they won't get back to me 0:12:55.375 --> 0:12:57.775 in a timely manner, and I'm trying to find out. 0:12:57.815 --> 0:13:00.935 How long should it take them to provide me with 0:13:01.375 --> 0:13:02.175 the right profile? 0:13:03.535 --> 0:13:09.695 Yeah, I mean, look, I think if you said two weeks, 0:13:09.775 --> 0:13:12.935 I wouldn't be surprised. So if, for example, what's happened 0:13:13.055 --> 0:13:16.375 is now, can we just go one step beyond that 0:13:16.535 --> 0:13:18.895 or one step back from there? I presume that in 0:13:19.055 --> 0:13:22.215 your contract and in the specifications. You were very clear 0:13:22.295 --> 0:13:26.215 about the profile of the long run that you had selected. 0:13:27.375 --> 0:13:30.095 Well, I had sent photographs, okay, and they said, yes, 0:13:30.215 --> 0:13:33.015 that's a that's one we commonly provide. 0:13:33.215 --> 0:13:33.415 Yep. 0:13:33.495 --> 0:13:35.935 Okay, all right, so there's clear there's a paper trail 0:13:36.015 --> 0:13:40.255 to say. You made it very clear that that's what 0:13:40.375 --> 0:13:42.215 you wanted. So I'm just making sure there wasn't kind 0:13:42.255 --> 0:13:45.095 of because people often talk about corrigid iron, right, but 0:13:45.215 --> 0:13:48.015 they may you know, I know what krugid irons. You 0:13:48.095 --> 0:13:49.895 know what it is, but other people might think it 0:13:49.975 --> 0:13:52.495 looks like something slightly different. Or if you say a 0:13:52.535 --> 0:13:55.375 square profile, you know, is that a standing scene type thing? 0:13:58.415 --> 0:14:03.015 The there's different things, Okay. So they knew what it 0:14:03.415 --> 0:14:05.815 was that you wanted. When it arrived on site. It 0:14:06.015 --> 0:14:10.295 was the standard corrugates crinkly iron, and you've gone, hang on, 0:14:10.415 --> 0:14:14.255 I asked for a flat profile or a more square profile. 0:14:14.855 --> 0:14:17.695 So they would have gone back to their supplier and said, hey, look, 0:14:17.695 --> 0:14:20.975 can you run that order again. The quantities are the same, 0:14:21.055 --> 0:14:23.975 the length of the sheet is the same. Two weeks 0:14:24.935 --> 0:14:26.095 wouldn't be unreasonable. 0:14:27.495 --> 0:14:31.975 Gosh, the architect apparently put on the consent of plans 0:14:33.655 --> 0:14:38.335 corrugated ruth Ah, And when I spoke to him, he said, no, 0:14:38.495 --> 0:14:40.495 it shouldn't make any difference to the council. 0:14:44.215 --> 0:14:46.735 That's a little bit to be blunt. It's a little 0:14:46.735 --> 0:14:49.975 bit of a laxadaisical attitude, to be fair, because you know, 0:14:50.055 --> 0:14:51.975 the whole thing is like plans are supposed to be 0:14:52.055 --> 0:14:54.255 contracts these days, right, That's how we regard them. So 0:14:54.415 --> 0:14:58.855 if somebody puts it down as a particular profile, that's 0:14:58.895 --> 0:15:01.375 what you should use. Because the warranty is going to 0:15:01.455 --> 0:15:04.295 be different and the installation details are going to be 0:15:04.375 --> 0:15:08.015 different for a different product. Shouldn't make a big deal, 0:15:08.175 --> 0:15:10.215 but it will make a bit of an issue. So 0:15:11.495 --> 0:15:14.175 but look, if you've made it clear in your discussions 0:15:14.215 --> 0:15:16.815 with the supplier that that's what you wanted, they've ended 0:15:16.895 --> 0:15:21.095 up sending out the wrong profile of long run, then yeah, 0:15:21.095 --> 0:15:24.695 I think two to three weeks and anything beyond that. 0:15:24.775 --> 0:15:28.015 And it kind of feels like people are busy, but 0:15:28.175 --> 0:15:31.455 not that busy, right, So if they're doing a reasonable 0:15:31.495 --> 0:15:34.375 amount of business with the roofing firm, they'll be able 0:15:34.415 --> 0:15:37.295 to send that through. And also it's a relatively compact building, 0:15:37.335 --> 0:15:37.615 isn't it. 0:15:38.895 --> 0:15:40.615 Well, it's only seventy three square music. 0:15:40.855 --> 0:15:42.895 Okay, all right, So it's not a massive roof. It's 0:15:42.895 --> 0:15:45.975 a simple roof structure, so there's not like lots of 0:15:46.055 --> 0:15:48.895 different lengths of iron that they have to do. Even 0:15:48.975 --> 0:15:49.575 that doesn't make. 0:15:49.455 --> 0:15:50.135 It any difference, you. 0:15:51.815 --> 0:15:54.975 Yeah, a heap at one end in otherwise okay, all right? 0:15:55.655 --> 0:16:00.335 No, I think two three weeks possibly, but no more 0:16:00.375 --> 0:16:04.135 than three, right, thank you? 0:16:04.295 --> 0:16:07.095 All right, So that's a bit more scaff Yeah. 0:16:07.135 --> 0:16:09.295 Well, and you know, it's probably not unreasonable to go 0:16:09.375 --> 0:16:10.815 back to them and say, hey, look, the only reason 0:16:10.815 --> 0:16:13.015 I've got the scaffolding up is you need the edge protection. 0:16:13.215 --> 0:16:15.455 So either I'm going to take it down, you're going 0:16:15.495 --> 0:16:18.135 to have to provide your own, or you're going to 0:16:18.175 --> 0:16:20.415 have to contribute to the cost of the scaffolding because 0:16:20.495 --> 0:16:26.175 the mistake is completely on you. That's not unreasonable, right. 0:16:26.415 --> 0:16:26.695 All right. 0:16:26.775 --> 0:16:28.575 The cloud is not up, the joiner is not up. 0:16:28.695 --> 0:16:31.575 Okay, all right, So you need scaffolding for a lot 0:16:31.615 --> 0:16:32.455 of other things as well. 0:16:33.615 --> 0:16:35.695 Yeah, what order can things happen? Can they? Can they 0:16:35.775 --> 0:16:36.775 do other jobs? 0:16:36.855 --> 0:16:37.135 First? 0:16:37.695 --> 0:16:37.895 Yeah? 0:16:38.695 --> 0:16:40.415 The roof, I mean typically you want to get the 0:16:40.495 --> 0:16:42.615 roof on, right, That's that's why we have a roof. 0:16:42.615 --> 0:16:45.415 Shout right, it's to encourage us to get up there 0:16:45.535 --> 0:16:48.655 and get the roof on, because you really don't want 0:16:48.935 --> 0:16:51.175 to be installing cladding. You certainly don't want to be 0:16:51.215 --> 0:16:54.735 installing windows if you're not you know, if you don't 0:16:54.775 --> 0:16:58.535 have a lid on it basically okay, not really unless 0:16:58.535 --> 0:17:00.575 they're going to wrap it, but even that not a 0:17:00.655 --> 0:17:01.255 great idea. 0:17:02.095 --> 0:17:03.935 Well they have wrapped it as in. 0:17:03.975 --> 0:17:05.615 A scaffold with a tent over the top. 0:17:07.175 --> 0:17:09.935 Sorry, no, no, no, just a paper on. Yeah, okay, 0:17:10.215 --> 0:17:11.175 sorry I didn't understand that. 0:17:11.295 --> 0:17:14.295 Yeah, no, no, no, it's but look that's a really 0:17:14.375 --> 0:17:16.735 expensive option. So I mean it's a great option, but 0:17:17.255 --> 0:17:19.215 I wouldn't push them to do that right now. I 0:17:19.495 --> 0:17:21.375 think just push them to go. Look, you just really 0:17:21.495 --> 0:17:24.015 need to get that roofing on as quickly as possible. 0:17:25.215 --> 0:17:28.015 Yeah, but it does take a while to anything, but 0:17:28.335 --> 0:17:29.855 not really, you know, to. 0:17:29.935 --> 0:17:33.055 Be fair, you know, is it a common color? 0:17:34.375 --> 0:17:34.415 Like? 0:17:34.535 --> 0:17:34.975 What color? 0:17:35.015 --> 0:17:35.215 Did you? 0:17:35.815 --> 0:17:39.335 It's flexpot? Okay, all right, so there's there's there's probably 0:17:39.335 --> 0:17:42.335 about five or six colors that are really common. Flexpod 0:17:42.375 --> 0:17:43.935 would be one of them. It's a great color, in 0:17:44.015 --> 0:17:45.735 which case it's not an issue of oh, we've got 0:17:45.775 --> 0:17:48.175 to order that coil in right, so if they say 0:17:48.215 --> 0:17:50.215 we've got to order the coil, you're kind of like, yeah, no, 0:17:50.335 --> 0:17:52.495 you just ran the last lot. So unless you ran out, 0:17:52.855 --> 0:17:56.695 that's unusual as well. Good luck with it, Kate. Yeah, 0:17:56.975 --> 0:18:00.695 all of this already, take care, already all this by 0:18:01.055 --> 0:18:02.975 Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number 0:18:03.015 --> 0:18:05.175 to call. I'm loving the text response that, So my 0:18:05.295 --> 0:18:08.695 moot is in your phone and your contacts on your phone? 0:18:08.855 --> 0:18:12.935 Do you have phone numbers for Plumber, Electrician, and Sparky? 0:18:14.095 --> 0:18:15.495 And to be fair, even if you got two or 0:18:15.735 --> 0:18:19.935 out of three, that's pretty good. Thus far, only one 0:18:20.055 --> 0:18:22.735 person has said that they don't have any contacts like 0:18:22.815 --> 0:18:25.175 that in their phone, which is interesting. Oh wait, that's 0:18:25.175 --> 0:18:26.935 what That's why I want to run this little survey. 0:18:27.175 --> 0:18:29.735 Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty will sundred. 0:18:29.775 --> 0:18:32.215 Good morning to you, Oh good morning. 0:18:32.415 --> 0:18:32.895 How are you? 0:18:33.775 --> 0:18:34.415 Thank you? Kim? 0:18:35.015 --> 0:18:41.215 Oh Gross, I'm answering your questions, the moot question, the 0:18:41.335 --> 0:18:46.455 moot I've got all three okay. 0:18:46.815 --> 0:18:51.015 And there I'm curious because is that because you've done 0:18:51.255 --> 0:18:54.295 renovation projects over the years and you've kept their details, 0:18:54.575 --> 0:18:57.415 or you've got friends who happen to be tradespeople. 0:18:58.615 --> 0:19:04.255 No, the home is nearly four years old, and I've 0:19:04.255 --> 0:19:05.895 got them when it was. 0:19:05.975 --> 0:19:13.095 Built, right, Okay, well that's perfect then yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:19:13.855 --> 0:19:15.815 It was one of those conversations us having with a 0:19:15.855 --> 0:19:18.935 friend during the week, and it was I guess I've 0:19:18.975 --> 0:19:20.735 got this image that you know, back in the day, 0:19:21.855 --> 0:19:24.135 most of us would have known someone in the trades, right, 0:19:24.655 --> 0:19:28.815 And I just wonder whether for maybe a younger generation 0:19:28.975 --> 0:19:31.575 or people that haven't been you know, if you've bought 0:19:31.775 --> 0:19:33.455 let's say house and you don't need to do any 0:19:33.495 --> 0:19:36.495 renovations or alterations, then you may not have contacts for 0:19:36.815 --> 0:19:38.895 trades people, in which case it is kind of a question, 0:19:38.975 --> 0:19:41.495 but how do you find them? So I'm just curious 0:19:41.575 --> 0:19:45.015 that most people still have those contacts, which is awesome. 0:19:46.335 --> 0:19:47.855 Yeah, yeah, thank you very much. 0:19:47.895 --> 0:19:52.295 Awesome for me because I moved from one city to another. Yes, 0:19:52.495 --> 0:19:55.375 so it's good to have these contexts. 0:19:55.495 --> 0:19:58.815 Yeah, good point. Yes, yeah, that's right. If you've got 0:19:58.895 --> 0:20:01.495 people in one town, they you know, depending on how 0:20:01.535 --> 0:20:04.015 far you shift, that's a little bit challenge. 0:20:04.095 --> 0:20:07.575 Well, I just did quite away from to Hamilton, so. 0:20:09.535 --> 0:20:12.175 Tell you as I was, as I was wandering the 0:20:12.215 --> 0:20:15.055 streets of Timaru. Yesterday. I was looking at the real 0:20:15.175 --> 0:20:22.215 estate windows, going, oh, oh yeah, it's great, Sandra, thank 0:20:22.255 --> 0:20:24.135 you very much for calling. Really appreciate. I'll tell you 0:20:24.175 --> 0:20:28.855 what I love about Timoru, the fact that the city 0:20:28.935 --> 0:20:31.135 and the port are so close, and that if you 0:20:31.215 --> 0:20:32.535 go for a bit of a drive or a walk 0:20:32.655 --> 0:20:34.935 like I did, there's all of these commercial buildings, a 0:20:35.015 --> 0:20:37.575 lot of them old heritage buildings, big old brick buildings 0:20:37.615 --> 0:20:40.735 and that right down by the in the port area. 0:20:41.615 --> 0:20:43.935 And to be fair, some of them look like they're 0:20:43.975 --> 0:20:47.455 not occupied, or they're partly vacant or something like that. 0:20:47.935 --> 0:20:51.055 And I was wandering along looking at these buildings, singing, man, 0:20:51.175 --> 0:20:53.695 I could come down here and I could get into 0:20:53.735 --> 0:20:55.735 one of these old buildings and do like a really 0:20:55.815 --> 0:20:59.815 funky sort of apartment warehouse he type thing, and be 0:20:59.935 --> 0:21:01.655 looking out at the water and looking the other way 0:21:01.695 --> 0:21:05.455 to the mountains, and anyway we dream. Oh, eight hundred 0:21:05.495 --> 0:21:09.255 and eighty ten eight is the number, John text is 0:21:09.295 --> 0:21:12.775 a roof shout, still a thing, to be fair, not 0:21:12.935 --> 0:21:16.135 as they are certainly not as boisterous as they used 0:21:16.175 --> 0:21:24.215 to be. And I don't know that clients necessarily understand 0:21:24.575 --> 0:21:26.575 them as much as they used to do as well. 0:21:26.855 --> 0:21:28.575 Like the funny thing that used to do, and we're 0:21:28.575 --> 0:21:31.535 talking like thirty odd years ago, is that you would 0:21:31.575 --> 0:21:33.695 do You'd put the flag up, but you'd put the 0:21:33.735 --> 0:21:36.535 flag in the most inaccessible part of the roof, right, 0:21:36.695 --> 0:21:39.095 And that was the trades would get together and they'd 0:21:39.135 --> 0:21:40.735 go to the highest part of the roof and then 0:21:40.735 --> 0:21:42.215 they'd get a bit of four to two and they'd 0:21:42.215 --> 0:21:45.175 wrap a bit of plastic from the timber wrap and 0:21:45.255 --> 0:21:48.215