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Speaker 1: Together do to see Ellen hither we are unfortunate enough

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Speaker 1: afford to transition off. This is the trouble. Even though

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Speaker 1: Shane Jones played that down just then a you notice

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Speaker 1: that he was like, ah, nothing covin, but listen, we

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Speaker 1: have got the gas connections, which I have, start thinking

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Speaker 1: I think seventeen past five now the New America's Cup

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Speaker 1: Protocol has been officially signed and there are some big

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Speaker 1: changes here. Grinders and cyclers are gone. There'll only be

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Speaker 1: five crew members per boat, and every team must include

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Speaker 1: at least one female sailor. David Blakey is commodore of

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Speaker 1: the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron and with us. Now, hey, David, hi, Heather,

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Speaker 1: how are you. I'm very well, thank you? Now, will

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Speaker 1: you admit that the token woman is definitely Grant Dalton

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Speaker 1: screwing the scrum because he's got a great token woman.

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Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. One of the successes of the last

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Speaker 2: event was having both the youth and the woman's America's Cup.

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Speaker 2: And what this does is creates a pathway for our

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Speaker 2: talented young female sailors to go all the way and

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Speaker 2: be able to compete on the America's Cup boats themselves.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so is the ladies there for a pathway?

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Speaker 2: Is she? No? Well, as I say, it creates a

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Speaker 2: place for aspiring young sailors to be able to participate

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Speaker 2: in the boat itself. And one of the questions we

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Speaker 2: got asked today does that mean potentially in the future

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Speaker 2: you could have a boat crewed solely by a woman.

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Speaker 2: And the potential is indeed there.

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Speaker 1: David, do you reckon? You've I wasn't planning to do this,

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Speaker 1: but now you've opened it up. Do you reckon? Have

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Speaker 1: we taken all of the physical strength stuff out of

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Speaker 1: this so women can compete fairly against men in this.

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Speaker 2: Well, that depends on whether the technology goes hither. What

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Speaker 2: you will have noticed today is the cycles are no

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Speaker 2: longer on the boat. That's created more place for sailors

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Speaker 2: to get on the boat, but they're extremely powerful machines,

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Speaker 2: and they require a lot of skill to sail. So

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Speaker 2: it's going to come down to a combination, as it

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Speaker 2: always does, between the technology and the skill of the sailors.

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Speaker 2: Ultimately it's going to determine who wins.

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Speaker 1: Okay. And one of the rules is that what you're

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Speaker 1: allowed to foreigners on your boat? Is that right?

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Speaker 2: That's correct?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So is that allowing what does that allow us

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Speaker 1: to do?

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Speaker 2: Uh? So that that that allows a team to have

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Speaker 2: two non nationals on their boat. So so two crew

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Speaker 2: from not not from their home nation on the boat.

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Speaker 2: So and and and that that's particularly helpful to to

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Speaker 2: new teams who want to enter the event where they don't.

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Speaker 2: It's rule well it's not the Peter Barley rule, but

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Speaker 2: but you know, opens up the possibility for people to

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Speaker 2: be able to sail and other teams, particularly the newer

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Speaker 2: ones that want to get established.

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Speaker 1: Hey, why do we get rid of the grinders and

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Speaker 1: the cyclists?

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Speaker 2: A couple of reasons. So one was to take weight

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Speaker 2: out of the boat. Uh and and and change the

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Speaker 2: way that they're sailed. So you're you're bringing in more

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Speaker 2: of the new technology around batteries to to make it

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Speaker 2: easier for them to to sail and to adjust the

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Speaker 2: sales and the trim of the foils on the boat

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Speaker 2: while they're sailing. And as I mentioned earlier, it enables

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Speaker 2: us to have more people on the boat itself, so

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Speaker 2: more people actually sailing the boat, which I think was

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Speaker 2: one of the bits of feedback that we had from

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Speaker 2: the previous oventors. People would like to see more people

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Speaker 2: actually sailing the boat rather than necessarily just powering it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, David, Hey, thanks very much for talking

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Speaker 1: us through to appreciate it. David Blakie, Royal New Zealand

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Speaker 1: Yacht Squadron Commodore.

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